[00:19] hoy ! [00:19] I'm trying to track down what could be a kernel bug causing the installer to "stall" [00:20] is there a way to pass some argument to the karmic installer [00:20] to make it be very verbose in console [00:20] so I get a chance to figure out where it goes wrong ? [00:20] which installer (text, live CD)? [00:20] livecd [00:20] it goes bonkers very early in the initrd [00:20] is it stalling during live CD boot? [00:20] I suppose I could find a way to crack the initrd open and modify what's in there [00:20] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingCasper is probably what you want [00:21] thanks [00:21] well, I'm trying to run it inside a virtual machine on ppc64 using Alex experimental kvm for ppc64 :-) [00:21] so the bug is likely kernel or kvm [00:21] but it would help me track it down if casper was a lot more verbose :-) [00:21] right, but that page has the right kernel arguments for un-silencing stuff [00:21] thanks for the pointer [00:23] btw, what format is that initrd file ? squash ? [00:23] I suspect I'll be better off setting a build environment so i can rebuild it ... oh well [00:24] in 9.10, it's an lzma'ed cpio file [00:24] in earlier releases it was gzipped instead [00:25] it's built using mkinitramfs from the live filesystem environment [00:25] ah... lzma was the missing link for me, thanks [00:26] it's a bit of a hassle, but you can rebuild it by unsquashing the live filesystem, chrooting in, mounting the usuals, and running update-initramfs -k 2.6.31-14-generic -u [00:26] ah, depmod -a ... a good candidate for dying in kvm :-) [00:26] or something along those lines [00:26] thanks, I'll experiement from there [00:26] there are some other links on the wiki what seem to have useful info [00:27] oh, it's just terribly slow on depmod ... actually worked [00:27] there's a live cd customisation howto somewhere on help.ubuntu.com/community [00:27] some of these things exercise worse case code path in the kvm, we need to optimize them [00:27] ok, thanks [00:30] seems to be doing the console-setup stuff in a loop [00:30] hrm, I will have to crack it open it seems [00:31] ah no, it stopped now, just very slow [00:55] oic [00:55] the powerpc kernel is missing the cm64x ide driver, that won't help qemu [00:55] * benh hunts TheMuso :-) [00:57] benh: That can be rectified for lucid. [00:58] TheMuso: ok [00:58] TheMuso: at some stage I'll have to learn how to build a new installer with those fixed (that plus one or two kernel fixes) [00:58] TheMuso: for users trying to use karmic :-) [01:04] benh: Right, happy to go through it with you at some point. [01:04] ok, I'll catch up with you when I have a bit of time [01:04] trying to get that KVM stuff working first :-) [01:05] right === dpm_ is now known as dpm [11:43] <_ruben> hmm .. when installing using minimal cd, and selecting both kubuntu desktop and ubuntu desktop, the install fails .. it complains about wanting to install both libgd2-noxpm and libgd2-xpm, removing ubuntu desktop from the task list "fixes" it [13:04] ubiquity: evand * r3581 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/validation.py): [13:04] ubiquity: Make sure a device exists as part of the grub target device [13:04] ubiquity: validation. [13:05] ubiquity: evand * r3582 ubiquity/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [13:05] ubiquity: Allow the user to retry grub installation with a different device on [13:05] ubiquity: failure. [14:50] ubiquity: evand * r3576 karmic/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): Do not try to configure networking in oem-config (LP: #471498). [15:00] ubiquity: evand * r3577 karmic/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [15:00] ubiquity: pkgsel now provides a debconf question to avoid warning the end user [15:00] ubiquity: when the language packs could not be installed (LP: #471553). [16:34] uploading ubiquity on a train is painful. I'm glad I pushed the majority of the branch before I left. [16:46] ubiquity: evand * r3578 karmic/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.0.9 [16:47] superm1: ^ [17:19] cjwatson, re: tocd removal, I added a second commit last night which also strips out winfoss as I didn't connect that as part of ToCD originally (and edubuntu hasn't included a winfoss bundle in several years) [18:04] NCommander: winfoss isn't solely part of tocd, careful there, it's also been included in various other images. why are you so keen to strip all this out anyway? :) [18:04] if in doubt, keep it [18:15] cjwatson, I don't like cruft [18:15] cjwatson, this is just the code to grab the winfoss files from people.u.c, edubuntu doesn't use that anymore, and I didn't touch the code to pull wubi [18:44] NCommander: it's our cruft :-) [18:44] winfoss was definitely used for more than edubuntu [18:45] cjwatson, ah ... [18:45] * NCommander slinks off with his head in shame [18:45] well, this stuff is convoluted, certainly === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk [18:49] cjwatson, on the plus side, I have a fix for mtools to fix the long standing issue with broken filenames [18:50] (most of the issue was fixed in mtools 4.0, but that version introduced a new bug which I just squashed) [18:51] I'm actually not sure why winfoss isn't on the latest hardy live CD, e.g.; the code does seem to try to fetch it ... [18:51] ok, cool, good to hear === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew [21:43] c