[00:19] <benh> hoy !
[00:19] <benh> I'm trying to track down what could be a kernel bug causing the installer to "stall"
[00:20] <benh> is there a way to pass some argument to the karmic installer
[00:20] <benh> to make it be very verbose in console
[00:20] <benh> so I get a chance to figure out where it goes wrong ?
[00:20] <cjwatson> which installer (text, live CD)?
[00:20] <benh> livecd
[00:20] <benh> it goes bonkers very early in the initrd
[00:20] <cjwatson> is it stalling during live CD boot?
[00:20] <benh> I suppose I could find a way to crack the initrd open and modify what's in there
[00:20] <cjwatson> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingCasper is probably what you want
[00:21] <benh> thanks
[00:21] <benh> well, I'm trying to run it inside a virtual machine on ppc64 using Alex experimental kvm for ppc64 :-)
[00:21] <benh> so the bug is likely kernel or kvm
[00:21] <benh> but it would help me track it down if casper was a lot more verbose :-)
[00:21] <cjwatson> right, but that page has the right kernel arguments for un-silencing stuff
[00:21] <benh> thanks for the pointer
[00:23] <benh> btw, what format is that initrd file ? squash ?
[00:23] <benh> I suspect I'll be better off setting a build environment so i can rebuild it ... oh well
[00:24] <cjwatson> in 9.10, it's an lzma'ed cpio file
[00:24] <cjwatson> in earlier releases it was gzipped instead
[00:25] <cjwatson> it's built using mkinitramfs from the live filesystem environment
[00:25] <benh> ah... lzma was the missing link for me, thanks
[00:26] <cjwatson> it's a bit of a hassle, but you can rebuild it by unsquashing the live filesystem, chrooting in, mounting the usuals, and running update-initramfs -k 2.6.31-14-generic -u
[00:26] <benh> ah, depmod -a ... a good candidate for dying in kvm :-)
[00:26] <cjwatson> or something along those lines
[00:26] <benh> thanks, I'll experiement from there
[00:26] <benh> there are some other links on the wiki what seem to have useful info
[00:27] <benh> oh, it's just terribly slow on depmod ... actually worked
[00:27] <cjwatson> there's a live cd customisation howto somewhere on help.ubuntu.com/community
[00:27] <benh> some of these things exercise worse case code path in the kvm, we need to optimize them
[00:27] <benh> ok, thanks
[00:30] <benh> seems to be doing the console-setup stuff in a loop
[00:30] <benh> hrm, I will have to crack it open it seems
[00:31] <benh> ah no, it stopped now, just very slow
[00:55] <benh> oic
[00:55] <benh> the powerpc kernel is missing the cm64x ide driver, that won't help qemu
[00:55]  * benh hunts TheMuso :-)
[00:57] <TheMuso> benh: That can be rectified for lucid.
[00:58] <benh> TheMuso: ok
[00:58] <benh> TheMuso: at some stage I'll have to learn how to build a new installer with those fixed (that plus one or two kernel fixes)
[00:58] <benh> TheMuso: for users trying to use karmic :-)
[01:04] <TheMuso> benh: Right, happy to go through it with you at some point.
[01:04] <benh> ok, I'll catch up with you when I have a bit of time
[01:04] <benh> trying to get that KVM stuff working first :-)
[01:05] <TheMuso> right
[11:43] <_ruben> hmm .. when installing using minimal cd, and selecting both kubuntu desktop and ubuntu desktop, the install fails .. it complains about wanting to install both libgd2-noxpm and libgd2-xpm, removing ubuntu desktop from the task list "fixes" it
[13:04] <CIA-37> ubiquity: evand * r3581 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/validation.py):
[13:04] <CIA-37> ubiquity: Make sure a device exists as part of the grub target device
[13:04] <CIA-37> ubiquity: validation.
[13:05] <CIA-37> ubiquity: evand * r3582 ubiquity/ (8 files in 6 dirs):
[13:05] <CIA-37> ubiquity: Allow the user to retry grub installation with a different device on
[13:05] <CIA-37> ubiquity: failure.
[14:50] <CIA-37> ubiquity: evand * r3576 karmic/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): Do not try to configure networking in oem-config (LP: #471498).
[15:00] <CIA-37> ubiquity: evand * r3577 karmic/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[15:00] <CIA-37> ubiquity: pkgsel now provides a debconf question to avoid warning the end user
[15:00] <CIA-37> ubiquity: when the language packs could not be installed (LP: #471553).
[16:34] <evand> uploading ubiquity on a train is painful.  I'm glad I pushed the majority of the branch before I left.
[16:46] <CIA-37> ubiquity: evand * r3578 karmic/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.0.9
[16:47] <evand> superm1: ^
[17:19] <NCommander> cjwatson, re: tocd removal, I added a second commit last night which also strips out winfoss as I didn't connect that as part of ToCD originally (and edubuntu hasn't included a winfoss bundle in several years)
[18:04] <cjwatson> NCommander: winfoss isn't solely part of tocd, careful there, it's also been included in various other images. why are you so keen to strip all this out anyway? :)
[18:04] <cjwatson> if in doubt, keep it
[18:15] <NCommander> cjwatson, I don't like cruft
[18:15] <NCommander> cjwatson, this is just the code to grab the winfoss files from people.u.c, edubuntu doesn't use that anymore, and I didn't touch the code to pull wubi
[18:44] <cjwatson> NCommander: it's our cruft :-)
[18:44] <cjwatson> winfoss was definitely used for more than edubuntu
[18:45] <NCommander> cjwatson, ah ...
[18:45]  * NCommander slinks off with his head in shame
[18:45] <cjwatson> well, this stuff is convoluted, certainly
[18:49] <NCommander> cjwatson, on the plus side, I have a fix for mtools to fix the long standing issue with broken filenames
[18:50] <NCommander> (most of the issue was fixed in mtools 4.0, but that version introduced a new bug which I just squashed)
[18:51] <cjwatson> I'm actually not sure why winfoss isn't on the latest hardy live CD, e.g.; the code does seem to try to fetch it ...
[18:51] <cjwatson> ok, cool, good to hear
[21:43] <TheMuso> c