[00:37] <JThundley> does anyone know how to stop large files from trashing your filesystem cache in memory?
[00:38] <JThundley> for example I have all my music on my mythbuntu machine, if I do a unison sync of it or just ls -lR on it it's all cached in the fs cache
[00:39] <JThundley> but then mythtv records a show and that huge file is cached instead, pushing out the fs cache of my music
[00:39] <JThundley> is there a way to tell the kernel to just always keep the cache of a certain directory?
[01:20] <Cyber-Dogg> so I'm running myth on ubuntu and I just got the updates today for the new VDPAU stuff.... seems to be working great
[01:21] <Cyber-Dogg> I was looking at the mythtv wiki and saw that some tvs have built in hardware interlacing
[01:21] <Cyber-Dogg> and that to get it to work you have to get x to output it's signal an in interlaced fashion
[01:21] <Cyber-Dogg> using a modeline
[01:21] <Cyber-Dogg> I was wondering if I could get some guidance on that...
[01:57] <rlatta> Is anyone else having problems pulling metadata for movies?
[02:00] <mrand> rlatta: when was the last time you updated?
[02:00] <mrand> rlatta: there was a change in URL last week.  This week, people have been having trouble accessing the site sometimes.
[02:01] <rlatta> mrand I updated less then a week ago
[02:01] <rlatta> I was using the site yesterday
[02:01] <rlatta> but it isnt working tonight
[02:04] <mrand> I saw some discussion on the mythtv-users list today, but haven't had time to read it.  This has happened a few times before and it sorted itself out.  It's a completely free service, so the number of users may be creating quite a load.   He accepts donations if you want to show your appreciation.  Some Myth related people are going to talk to him about helping to offload some bandwidth intensive stuff (image hosting).
[02:07] <rlatta> ah...thank you
[02:27] <OpenMedia1> hads: What was the video filter option you set for VDPAU again?
[02:30] <OpenMedia1> hads: Don't worry I've found the ticket.
[02:46] <superm1> OpenMedia1, what ticket?
[02:46] <superm1> are you having the same issues i was....?
[02:47] <superm1> #7493?
[02:54] <OpenMedia1> superm1: Kinda.
[02:54] <OpenMedia1> Doing some VDPAU testing and some tuning of software H.264 support
[02:55] <OpenMedia1> I was hoping I could disable the deblocking loop filter (http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4653) via a playback filter option, but the code isn't there to support it.
[02:55] <OpenMedia1> on NZ H.264 HD streams it would really improve playback on lower spec CPUs.
[02:56] <hads> superm1: I had to increase vdpaubuffersize to play some h264 stuff
[02:58] <endemic> Has anyone been able to get the NTSC tuner in the FusionHDTV 5 Express to work? Everything works great with the digital tuner but it seems like the SD tuner device (/dev/video0?) is not created.
[02:59] <hads> superm1: In #7493 markk was talking about video RAM BTW, not system RAM
[03:00] <hads> Man it's annoying having search missing on trac
[03:05] <rhpot1991> superm1: ouch 30% off the time
[03:07] <hads> OpenMedia1: What card you testing with?
[03:07] <skinnY> Question, I've almost filled up my master backend, if I added another non master backend on the lan would its storage space be found and used by the primary master? Would the database pw's need to be set to the same ?
[03:08] <OpenMedia1> hads: 8400's at the moment. Looking at getting a GT220
[03:08] <rhpot1991> skinnY: yes, and no
[03:08] <hads> skinnY: Storage groups are a little tricky like that.
[03:09] <hads> OpenMedia1: Cool, I was loooking at those too, though didn't see a silent one yet.
[03:09] <rhpot1991> but it needs the password to connect to the MBE, and your MBE needs to be setup to accept connections
[03:09] <hads> You need to NFS share storage locations I think.
[03:09] <OpenMedia1> hads: What are you using at the moment.
[03:09] <skinnY> Basically wondering how deep of a hole that is , ssh mapping to another drive on the lan is also an option
[03:09] <hads> skinnY: Just add a local drive :)
[03:10] <hads> OpenMedia1: Umm, a 9800GT with 1GB :)
[03:10] <rhpot1991> skinnY: or you could move a tuner to the 2nd backend
[03:10] <OpenMedia1> hads: Looks like the Gigabyte GT220 takes two slots = no good for myPVR.
[03:10] <hads> Bummer
[03:10] <skinnY> $$$ call me cheap O , yeah I just ordered a pvr500 which will go in the second backend
[03:10] <OpenMedia1> Same no one is bringing out a motherboard with GT220 or GT210 class graphics.
[03:10] <rhpot1991> I have a gigabye 9600 1gb model that occupies 2 slots, works like a charm with VDPAU so far
[03:10] <rhpot1991> same with my ion box
[03:11] <hads> I should get around to playing with myth on th eion here.
[03:11] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: I posted a link in here for a super cheap quiet half height card the other day, lets see if I can dig it back up
[03:11] <hads> rhpot1991: We are in .nz
[03:11] <rhpot1991> heh, wont help much then :)
[03:11] <rhpot1991> !ion%
[03:11] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about ion%
[03:12] <hads> Most .us places don't ship outside the us
[03:12] <rhpot1991> hmmm what did I tag that
[03:12] <rhpot1991> !frontend
[03:12] <Zinn> Ion Boxes make a great frontend.  http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/2
[03:12] <rhpot1991> there we go, my ion ^
[03:12] <superm1> hads, yeah i noticed later.
[03:12] <superm1> hads, the only other  thing that's possibly using video ram is x11vnc, but i have no idea how to query how much
[03:13] <skinnY> I've got a little 330 atom frontend no problem
[03:13] <hads> Shouldn't be much to speak of you wouldn't have thought.
[03:13] <rhpot1991> superm1: I VNC without issue
[03:14] <OpenMedia1> rhpot1991: Cheers. Might be able to get it through one of my US suppliers.
[03:14] <superm1> rhpot1991, well my next thing i'm trying is VDPAU slim rather than VDPAU normal
[03:14] <superm1> next thing i guess is increasing that buffer size like hads said
[03:14] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: let me search for it
[03:14] <superm1> what are the valid and default values for that integer?
[03:14] <hads> 0-50 I think
[03:14] <rhpot1991> superm1: for the record, I use VDPAU high (whatever it is) on my 1gb 9600
[03:14] <OpenMedia1> Any one here trying the ION-LE yet?
[03:14] <rhpot1991> and VDPAU normal on my ion
[03:15] <superm1> rhpot1991, that doesn't make me happy
[03:15] <superm1> this is a freaking 9500GT
[03:15] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: those are the ones with the pcie slot right?
[03:15] <superm1> it should be able to handle normal
[03:15] <hads> default is either 6 or 17, I can't remember from all I've read.
[03:15] <rhpot1991> superm1: following my logic you should RMA it :)
[03:15] <hads> 9500GT should do VDPAU high shouldn't it
[03:15] <hads> I cna't remember the commit message now.
[03:16] <rhpot1991> superm1: you could send it back to newegg and get an asus or gigabyte 9600, but that should be ok
[03:16] <rhpot1991> wonder if my 1gb of ram is making a difference
[03:16] <superm1> well why would it be the card?
[03:17] <OpenMedia1> rhpot1991: half height isn't needed, it needs to be single slot and quiet
[03:17] <OpenMedia1> lots of the half height cards are GT210
[03:18] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/184561
[03:19] <rhpot1991> actually thats gonna take up 2 slots, I didn't look at it very close the first time
[03:19] <rhpot1991> heat sink is kinda tall
[03:19] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: there is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127386&cm_re=msi_9500gt-_-14-127-386-_-Product
[03:19] <rhpot1991> should only take up one slot, but needs room on the other side
[03:20] <rhpot1991> and for the record thats the card superm1 is having issues with
[03:21] <rhpot1991> superm1: do you have a way of reproducing the issue that I could try out here?
[03:21] <superm1> rhpot1991, rapidly enter and leave recordings
[03:21] <superm1> if at all possible before the fanart even finishes reloading
[03:22] <rhpot1991> our xorgs might be slightly different too, I disabled composite and endabled tripplebuffer
[03:22] <rhpot1991> superm1: how do I know when the issue happens?
[03:22] <superm1> i still have to try turning off composite
[03:22] <superm1> if i dont have better luck with vdpau slim that's next on my lift
[03:22] <superm1> list
[03:22] <superm1> rhpot1991, oh you'll know it happens
[03:22] <rhpot1991> it helped me with tearing
[03:22] <superm1> mythfrontend is hung
[03:22] <mrand> I hope support for the Broadcom decoder makes it to Myth before I need HD.
[03:23] <OpenMedia1> rhpot1991: Wow.. Serious heatsink
[03:23] <superm1> what broadcom decoder?
[03:24] <mrand> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Broadcom_Crystal_HD  (Dell refers to it as Broadcom BD Accelerator)
[03:24] <mrand> I just started that page today.  Jarod is working on it (quietly)
[03:24] <rhpot1991> superm1: how many times do I need to do it?
[03:24] <rhpot1991> just did it about 15, still ok
[03:24] <superm1> it happens to me within about 5 usually
[03:25] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: this is the one I'm using: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125271&cm_re=gigabyte_9600-_-14-125-271-_-Product
[03:25] <OpenMedia1> rhpot1991: How noisy is the fan?
[03:25] <OpenMedia1> And does it use two slots?
[03:25] <rhpot1991> crap wrong one
[03:25] <rhpot1991> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125273&cm_re=gigabyte_9600-_-14-125-273-_-Product
[03:25] <superm1> mrand, i wouldnt count on that being in much other hardware going forward though
[03:25] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: ^
[03:26] <OpenMedia1> Ah cheers
[03:26] <rhpot1991> OpenMedia1: its very hard to find a fanless that doesn't take up 2 slots
[03:26] <rhpot1991> I just yanked out an analog tuner
[03:26] <mrand> superm1: I don't care much about new hardware/systems... if Linux support gets it, the cards are dirt cheap on ebay.
[03:29] <OpenMedia1> rhpot1991: LoL... Just a quiet fan would suffice.
[03:29] <rhpot1991> superm1: just did it about 30 times, had a hiccup in the middle but it was prob my remote, sometimes that stops responding for a few seconds
[03:30] <superm1> rhpot1991,  /jealous
[03:36] <OpenMedia1> Anyone else seeing very high memory use for the frontend?
[03:37] <OpenMedia1> Mine is currently taking 1GB Virtual Memory
[03:37] <OpenMedia1> Also mythtranscode doesn't appear to exit currently when it completes a job.
[03:38] <OpenMedia1> Just found 8 old instances running on my own rig.
[03:40] <hads> I'm seeing Xorg using 803m and mythfrontend using 578m VIRT
[03:40] <rhpot1991> how do you check memory usage?
[03:41] <hads> various ways, top is easy
[03:41] <rhpot1991> top tells you %
[03:41] <superm1> well you have to remember that there is a lot of shared memory between processes
[03:41] <rhpot1991> did you just convert?
[03:41] <hads> Yeah
[03:41] <superm1> so top won't necessarily give you an accurate output
[03:41] <hads> (to superm1)
[03:41] <hads> rhpot1991: top tells you numbers
[03:42] <hads> That's what the VIRT, RES and SHR columns are.
[03:44] <rhpot1991> 1147 for my frontend
[03:44] <rhpot1991> xorg jumped to about a gig
[03:45] <hads> I saw a good article explaining shared, reserved, virtual memory somewhere but I can't find it now.
[03:45] <OpenMedia1> Yeah seems to say there is 900MB of data in use by the mythfrontend process which is a little huge..
[03:46] <OpenMedia1> I'm more interested in why mytharchive isn't quitting.
[03:46] <OpenMedia1> I've been running a lot of lossless MPEG2 transcode jobs. The logs show the job as competed but the process doesn't exit.
[03:47] <OpenMedia1> strace just shows Process 19726 attached - interrupt to quit
[03:47] <OpenMedia1> futex(0x88ccfb4, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL
[03:48] <OpenMedia1> The locked process means the old version of the file is still locked and taking up disk space
[03:48] <OpenMedia1> mythtrans 20042 mythtv   17w   REG      252,3    2004893 156020 /myth/tv/5907_20090514203000.mpg.old (deleted)
[03:49] <OpenMedia1> Sorry I mean mythtranscode doesn't exit.
[04:55] <gwillakers> coma
[04:57] <stiev3> what does the host field in videometadata specify?
[04:58] <hads> It's related to storage groups
[05:07] <rhpot1991> Who did I talk with in here about the antec fusion VFD and lcdproc?
[05:13] <MythbuntuGuest03> Hey folks... It appears I have lost my mind.  I can't seem to find the Diskless config tools in 9.10?
[05:14] <hads> They aren't there :)
[05:14] <hads> You can still do it from the command line but the GUI tools didn't make it.
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest03> nice... I thought I had lost my mind.
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest03> any chance the wiki has some info on this that I am missing?
[05:17] <hads> There's a wiki page on doing it in 8.04 which I think is the same.
[05:18] <hads> You need ltsp-build-client, ltsp-update-image and ltsp-update-kernels
[05:20] <hads> Anyone know why one particular program wouldn't show in the watchlist? It's not important but really annoying :)
[05:20] <MythbuntuGuest03> hads: thanks a lot
[05:21] <MythbuntuGuest03> I had a nice stable 8.04.1 build going for the last year or so... but got itchy after seeing xbmc pretty things at a friends house.... I'm really hoping .22 is the dawn of slicker interfaces
[05:22] <hads> 0.22 is certainly getting there
[05:23] <hads> Videos and Recordings interfaces are pretty sweet. Music isn't there yet.
[05:23] <hads> Pretty sweet being miles ahead of 0.21
[05:23] <hads> I didn't think I'd care much but it is quite nice.
[05:23] <hads> Using storage groups for Videos is neat too.
[05:27] <MythbuntuGuest03> If I can get the diskless going, I will be happy, but it looks like the sweet spot will be 10.04 or 9.10.1
[05:28] <hads> I can see 10.04 being a hot release.
[05:29] <hads> 0.23 should be released in plenty of time and will be nicer than 0.22
[05:29] <MythbuntuGuest03> I am guessing that the SG's perform better than NFS mounts?
[05:29] <MythbuntuGuest03> I can only hope
[05:29] <hads> I don't know about performance as I've never had issues.
[05:29] <hads> It does mean that you don't need to configure the frontends for mythvideo though, it just magically works.
[05:30] <hads> Including artwork etc.
[05:30] <MythbuntuGuest03> I only see bad NFS juju when all 6 feeds are running 1080p streams at the same time
[05:30] <hads> Ah, I've only got 4 frontends and mostly 720p content
[05:30] <MythbuntuGuest03> I had artwork and stuff all worked out in my diskless... I really should have held off
[05:31] <MythbuntuGuest03> and tmdb seems to be borked.
[05:31] <hads> Yeah it wasn't that hard to do before, it's just magically easy now :)
[05:31] <hads> I think TMDB is partially down for the last 20 hours or so.
[05:31] <MythbuntuGuest03> I can't seem to use it at all... it appears tmdb is in the midst of upgrading from a 2.0 api to 2.1
[05:32] <hads> Yeah they should work in tandem but something is currently broken.
[05:33]  * melhiser just noticed he had a dork'd name
[05:33] <hads> heh
[05:33] <melhiser> well, the command built an image?
[05:34] <melhiser> now if I can just 'member the right NFS options and junk...
[05:34] <hads> Did you find that wiki page?
[05:34] <melhiser> no... but lot's of other random stuff... any hints on the search params?
[05:34] <hads> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Hardy/Diskless
[05:35] <hads> Found it
[05:35] <hads> I *think* things are the same, but I'm not using it so am not 100%
[05:35] <hads> Unfortunately I don't know if any of the devs are using it at the moment.
[05:36] <melhiser> if it's close, I can grok it.
[05:38]  * melhiser dances
[05:38] <melhiser> *woot* hads.  This is good stuff
[05:42] <melhiser> out of curiosity, why didn't the diskless stuff make it to 9.10?
[05:43] <superm1> laga didn't have time to finish the GUI work
[05:44] <superm1> and no one else has stepped up to work on it
[05:56] <melhiser> are there significant gui changes in mind?  If I was to wager a guess, this was a few button hooks the called execs to the command line equivs (at least that was the way 8.04.1 looked) is something spiffier planned for 9.??
[05:56] <melhiser> not that I am pissing in somones cherious, but more looking to offer a hand where hands can be offered.
[05:57]  * melhiser wonders off to inspect the 8.04.1 svn tree
[06:07] <superm1> melhiser, so for 9.10 mcc was fully rewritten
[06:07] <superm1> and no longer runs the GUI stuff as root, which complicates things
[06:08] <melhiser> it's worse than that... it's in python!
[06:08]  * melhiser mopes around and tries hard to like python
[06:09] <superm1> haha
[06:10] <superm1> well if you want to try to step in and help out still, it would be most appreciated
[06:11] <superm1> we dont have a plan for what to do for 10.04 since laga was the one driving all the diskless stuff.  he said he's still available for questions, but can't commit to time to actually code
[06:11] <melhiser> I have to write jython every few days or so... but that some how seems easier, since I am intimatly familiar with java... are there any dirty details about standard python that will hurt?
[06:12] <superm1> na, really it actually is all very readable and logical
[06:13] <superm1> take a look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-control-centre/files
[06:13] <superm1> assuming launchpad decides to cooperate
[06:13] <superm1> there is a README in there explaining how the plugins work
[06:13] <superm1> and an example plugin so you can see what's supported
[06:14] <melhiser> This week is actually a shite week to pick it up.  I have two production launches, a business trip wed-fri next week, and thanksgiving...
[06:14] <superm1> no probs, come back after thanksgiving
[06:14] <superm1> most of us will still be here :)
[06:14] <melhiser> that being said... it's obvious I have time in the schedule, so I'll check out the code and start peeking at it
[06:15] <superm1> ping laga and he can point you where the code he's got so far for the diskless plugin is living
[06:15] <superm1> i suspect it's in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mb-diskless
[06:15] <superm1> but dont know for sure
[06:15] <superm1> he hangs in #mythtv-users, #mythtv, and #ubuntu-mythtv-dev
[06:16]  * melhiser does a dance... (if I get a chance to do this, I'm gonna fix the user perm mapping issus)
[06:16] <android6011> if a recording is scheduled and the combined backend/frontend machine is sleeping, will it wake up automatically to record?
[06:19] <melhiser> Is the August 17 version the one in the current 9.10?
[06:19] <superm1> no i dont think so
[06:20] <superm1> because i see 0.9 in 9.10, and he clearly says in rev 79 that 0.10 was released
[06:20] <superm1> but in any case, dont worry about what's in karmic, work directly from the stuff in the branch
[06:21] <melhiser> Are there any protocols for submitting updates?
[06:21] <superm1> to karmic?  Yes, but it's a pain in the ass
[06:21] <Zinn> superm1: Please watch your language.
[06:22] <superm1> we have a "testing" repo that we can push to for karmic that's opt in for users
[06:22] <superm1> but the formal -updates requires a lot of annoying paperwork
[06:24] <melhiser> well, until I actually produce anything, paper work is not useful... its going to take 2-3 days to wrap my head around this I suspect
[06:24]  * melhiser marvels
[06:25] <superm1> well feel free to fire away any questions as they come up.  i'm the goto guy for questions about mcc or mythbuntu-common, laga for direct diskless questions
[06:28] <stiev3> so I'm in the middle of updating my embarrassing ruby scripts I used to autoupdate videometadata, and looking at the table now, does each host have its own set of data?  Whereas previously I'd just make sure all of the frontends mounted the same paths for network shares.
[06:30] <melhiser> superm1: I don't work in python a lot, I do java/c++/c stuff.... but these days, I've been writing a lot of jython scripts ... vi is my friend since they are pretty simple ... is there a plugin to eclipse for jython to make life easier?
[06:31] <superm1> melhiser, wish i could tell ya.  i do all my coding in geany these days since it tells me about whitespace and that kind of stuff matters in python
[06:33] <hads> stiev3: Any reason not to use jamu?
[06:33] <melhiser> matters a lot...thus the eclipse question
[06:33]  * melhiser wonders off to google geany
[06:33] <hads> !mythvideo
[06:33] <Zinn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythVideo
[06:33] <hads> stiev3: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide
[06:39] <stiev3> ah... my main reason: I had not even known about it, this certainly saves me a lot of work!
[06:41] <hads> stiev3: Yeah, I used to have my own scripts too, I now use jamu.
[06:44] <kaeles> where are the storage groups mounted on the mythfrontend?
[06:45] <superm1> they dont get mounted
[06:45] <superm1> they're accessed through myth protocol
[06:46] <kaeles> ah nice, can i put a smb mount inside one of the storage groups to be shared?
[06:47] <hads> Don't see why not.
[06:47] <kaeles> I have a another nas that has alot of media on it, and want to mount it via smb inside the directory that is the storage group
[06:47] <kaeles> ok
[06:47] <kaeles> I'll try it and find out, thanks
[06:47] <hads> If you setup storage groups on the backend then you don't need to do anything to setup the frontends.
[06:48] <hads> (for mythvideo)
[06:49] <melhiser> superm1: ok... I'm slowly catching on here... so you are the MCC guy... these scripts from launchpad I'm looking at are just shell scripts ... no python
[06:49] <superm1> melhiser, well diskless itself is shell, its the mcc plugin for it (the gui piece) that was python
[06:50] <stiev3> man I was halfway through setting up network shares and everything, this is great stuff... just as I was about to ask about file naming schemes, it's all there already.
[06:50] <melhiser> are there details in the diskless that need work, or the python mcc stuff? either way, I am good with it
[06:50] <superm1> melhiser, have to check with laga on it
[06:50] <superm1> i'm really not sure what state he left it in
[06:51] <superm1> i dont see the gui plugin sitting in that branch, you'll have to ask laga where it's at then
[06:51] <superm1> (what he started)
[06:52] <melhiser> superm1: is there a way to contact him?  I'll poke around a bit more, but the more direct the better
[06:52] <superm1> melhiser, ping him in #ubuntu-mythtv-dev
[06:55] <melhiser> well, sunrise will come early tomorrow... off to bed.
[06:55] <melhiser> I'll keep trying laga
[06:55] <melhiser> thanks
[06:55] <superm1> k
[13:38] <jeffjeffdejeff> need some assistance.  trying to connect to backend (which has updates switched off cos it buggered up last time it was updated) have installed ubuntu onto flashkey to be used on laptop. the flashkey installed version is obviously newer than backend and i'm getting a message to update the database schema as it's 30 versions old.  is there a simple way to just update the schema on the backend?  i want to avoid the problems i had
[16:29] <olejl> I'm running Mythbuntu and have been getting this errer for 9 days now when trying to update: http://pastebin.com/d3832fb12
[16:42] <superm1> olejl, reinstall the package ubuntu-keyring
[17:09] <olejl> superm1: didn't help
[17:15] <olejl> it seems 1 is gone, but there still is 2 left: http://pastebin.com/d8d4640c
[17:17] <superm1> you can try switching mirrors
[17:17] <superm1> that may help too
[17:19] <olejl> I have tried that, but I will test some more now after one of the warnings is gone ...
[18:13] <Thelasko> Hey, does anybody know a simple way to watch videos on a Pentium 3 with 256 megs of RAM?
[18:13] <Thelasko> I have an old laptop I would like to re-purpose.
[18:14] <superm1> i'd say your best bet is to draw a bunch of pictures on looseleaf paper and flash them in front of the screen really fast
[18:14] <superm1> but really, if you dont have good results OOTB, there isn't much you'll be able to do
[18:16] <Thelasko> I've been playing with XBMC and it doesn't like less than 512 MB of RAM
[18:17] <superm1> well try installing mythbuntu 9.10 on it and see how it works
[18:17] <Thelasko> So, I'm wondering if there is something more "lightweight"
[18:17] <superm1> there are some lightweight themes for it
[18:17] <Thelasko> okay, thanks!
[18:20] <Cyber-Dogg> I have 2 DCh3200's connected by firewire
[18:20] <Cyber-Dogg> each box works fine on their own and my channels are all open
[18:20] <Cyber-Dogg> but when I daisy chain then and I'm trying to record from both at the same time... it doesn't work right
[18:20] <mrand> Thelasko: if standard Mythbuntu install uses too much memory, try looking over some of the results when you google for "lightweight ubuntu"
[18:20] <Cyber-Dogg> my recordings are choppy
[18:21] <Cyber-Dogg> and sometimes one of the STBs will reset
[18:21] <Cyber-Dogg> anyone have any insight?
[18:24] <mrand> Cyber-Dogg: I don't have firewire, so I know littel about it - my only suggestion is based upon looking over the mythtv firewire wiki page: double check that you have unique channel assignments (via plugctl)
[18:25] <Cyber-Dogg> well... and that' sone of the interesting things... it seems like mythtv keeps channging them on me!
[18:25] <Cyber-Dogg> I set them up and have it working
[18:26] <Cyber-Dogg> then after I use myth a couple times, they change
[18:26] <Cyber-Dogg> :/
[18:54] <tseitsei> hi
[18:57] <tseitsei> can anyone help me with getting the epg to work? in short: i have a fresh install of mythbuntu 9.10, channels imported from channels.conf created with scan (full scan doesn't work)
[18:57] <tseitsei> the tv works (dvb-c), but I get no eit data for any channel
[20:19] <tseitsei> brb
[22:43] <Thelasko> crap, I need an old ATI driver
[22:48] <Thelasko> ATI Rage 128 Mobility chipset with 8 MB RAM
[22:50] <Thelasko> anybody know how to fix a borked xorg configuration in 9.10?
[22:52] <Thelasko> does "dpkg-revonfigure xserver-xorg" work?
[22:53] <Thelasko> nope
[22:55] <Thelasko> sudo dpkg --configure -a doesn't work either
[22:57] <Thelasko> xfix doesn't seem to be there either
[22:57] <Thelasko> why do they get rid of all of the useful tools?
[23:02] <superm1> Thelasko, just remove the xorg.conf
[23:02] <superm1> it will give you the right driver 95% of the time
[23:02] <superm1> and remove fglrx if you have it installed
[23:07] <Thelasko> it says linux-restricted-modules isn't installed
[23:07] <Thelasko> I just connected it to the net now
[23:07] <Thelasko> hopefully it will download what it needs
[23:11] <Thelasko> ah, uninstalled fglrx and it worked
[23:11] <Thelasko> I had to find the name of the package first
[23:19] <Thelasko> superm1: Thanks!
[23:22] <Thelasko> So, how do I get the video out to work without the fglrx driver?
[23:23] <superm1> there's probably xorg.conf options you can use
[23:23] <superm1> dunno tho
[23:23] <superm1> i'd make sure the machine can actually handle the video playback before you worry that farf
[23:49] <jduggan> hey guys, http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/fixes  - is this .22 fixes?
[23:49] <jduggan> erm, actually looking at the timestamp, seems its quite old
[23:49] <jduggan> so guess not