| MenZa | !distupgrade is <alias> !dist-upgrade | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, MenZa said: !distupgrade is <alias> !dist-upgrade | 00:23 |
| jrib | anyone getting queries from fedaralu? | 00:31 |
| jrib | federalu, sorry | 00:31 |
| MenZa | negative | 00:34 |
| MenZa | I feel unimportant | 00:34 |
| elky | not onjoin anyway | 00:34 |
| jrib | i kicked as some other user in #ubuntu claimed the same thing and it just spammed me back when I messaged it | 00:35 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, dcosta1 said: mate is in ubuntu server | 00:40 |
| Pici | I'm not sure how that would work. | 00:43 |
| tsimpson | !no dontzap is <reply> To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap | 02:55 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that tsimpson | 02:55 |
| vorian | i think ubottu should use words like thou, thine, shall, thee, etc.. | 03:44 |
| vorian | ubottu: thou shalt begin to use such these words | 03:45 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 03:45 |
| vorian | trust me, i don't | 03:46 |
| vorian | :P | 03:46 |
| Flannel | Howdy arand_, how can we help you today? | 05:30 |
| arand_ | Flannel: Howdy. Is shortened urls frowned upon in #ubuntu, or acceptable when giving support links? | 05:30 |
| Flannel | arand_: We'd prefer it if you didn't use shortening things unless the length is absolutely silly. | 05:31 |
| Flannel | arand_: Makes it more likely that people will follow the links, especially in the future when the tiny-whatever things might not be around anymore, etc. | 05:31 |
| arand_ | Ok, good to know the policy, cheers. | 05:32 |
| elky | arand_, tinyurl for example has preview.tinyurl.com which gives people more confidence | 05:32 |
| arand_ | I was asking since I have something i tend to throw at the sound-issue-folks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/316600/ and was wondering if it would be best shortened or not. | 05:34 |
| Flannel | arand_: That's a tiny url to begin with | 05:35 |
| arand_ | Hmm, well all depend on how you define tiny, but releatively, yea I guess. Thanks for the pointers! | 05:36 |
| Flannel | !no, ppp is <alias> modem | 06:50 |
| ubottu | You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm | 06:50 |
| Flannel | !no, ppp is <alias> modem | 06:50 |
| Flannel | meh | 06:50 |
| Flannel | There we go. | 06:52 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:46 |
| Flannel | Howdy dholbach | 07:47 |
| dholbach | hola Flannel | 07:47 |
| * jussi01 waves | 08:06 | |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| jussi01 | its been arelatively quiet week. bit suprising really. | 08:21 |
| ubottu | om26er called the ops in #ubuntu (ComboBreaker) | 09:10 |
| Flannel | that's our MA comcast guy I reckon. | 09:12 |
| ardchoille | Is there any channel rule that forbids a user from joining with nick1, nick1_,nick1__ etc in #ubuntu? This user is also using two different IP's | 09:17 |
| topyli | ardchoille, there is no rule as such | 09:19 |
| ardchoille | Just FYI, someone might want to keep an eye on txwizard1* | 09:19 |
| ardchoille | Ah, ok, thanks topyli | 09:19 |
| MenZa | topyli: doesn't freenode have a kind of 'fair use' type of rule for having a bajillion nicks connected? | 10:08 |
| MenZa | (for a lack of a better term) | 10:08 |
| topyli | probably. i guess it depends on the scale of "etc" in ardchoille's question | 10:09 |
| jussi01 | if they were webchat links they may not even be same user, just a link like we had with "openweek#" | 10:10 |
| eduardiyo | hi | 10:46 |
| eduardiyo | i am banned in #ubuntu-es and i want know the reason please | 10:46 |
| eduardiyo | somebody ? | 10:47 |
| Pricey | eduardiyo: Do you know who you were banned by? | 10:52 |
| Pricey | ach.. i see the ban now | 10:53 |
| eduardiyo | no | 10:53 |
| eduardiyo | i don't know sorry | 10:53 |
| Pricey | eduardiyo: Looking at the ban list i don't think it was directed at you, but you got accidentally caught. | 10:54 |
| eduardiyo | because? | 10:54 |
| Pricey | eduardiyo: No idea, I'll see what I can do about getting it sorted out. | 10:56 |
| Pricey | eduardiyo: Until then you'll have to be patient I'm afraid. | 10:56 |
| eduardiyo | ok :) | 10:56 |
| Pricey | eduardiyo: Ah, its been removeed :-) | 10:56 |
| Pricey | eduardiyo: Could you try joining now please? | 10:56 |
| eduardiyo | yes | 10:56 |
| eduardiyo | all ok | 10:57 |
| eduardiyo | thanks thanks thanks thanks | 10:57 |
| Pricey | eduardiyo: Good stuff, have fun! | 10:57 |
| eduardiyo | :) | 10:57 |
| eduardiyo | have a nice day ! | 10:57 |
| bazhang | heads up in -ot yoshi765 | 12:45 |
| Tm_T | and in -devel | 12:45 |
| Tm_T | ...I hate that I don't have ops in -devel | 12:45 |
| Tm_T | in #k he did this | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | 1443.53 < yoshi765> fuck ubuntu | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | 1444.03 < yoshi765> DAMN FREENODE | 12:46 |
| MenZa | I have him on my radar | 12:46 |
| bazhang | a bunch including -motu | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | here we go | 12:46 |
| elky | he's hit debian and freenode so far too | 12:46 |
| ubottu | Tm_T called the ops in #ubuntu-devel (yoshi765) | 12:46 |
| MenZa | Should we bother with waiting, elky? | 12:47 |
| jpds | Removed from -motu. | 12:47 |
| * elky pats ubottu. | 12:47 | |
| jpds | He's in -server. | 12:47 |
| MenZa | So he is. | 12:47 |
| MenZa | Oh, he uprooted. | 12:48 |
| elky | trolls on DS, now who was it that had the free-for-all ds proxy thing? | 12:50 |
| jpds | < ~yoshi765> DAMN FREENODE | 12:54 |
| jpds | Seems to have got the message. | 12:54 |
| elky | no, he sometimes condemns ubuntu and debian as well | 13:09 |
| Tm_T | jpds: see what I pasted earlier, I see no learning in that | 13:22 |
| MenZa | "DAMN YOU, FREENODE. DAMN YOU TO HELL." | 13:23 |
| elky | wow, 3 new words. | 13:24 |
| MenZa | Indeed. | 13:26 |
| MenZa | Would anyone here like a Wave account? | 13:51 |
| * MenZa has 5 invites remaining; wants to share them here first. | 13:52 | |
| Tm_T | I don't even like mine | 13:52 |
| bazhang | should change the topic in here | 13:52 |
| MenZa | :P | 13:52 |
| bazhang | *Yes we have wave invites!* | 13:52 |
| MenZa | Hahaha | 13:52 |
| bazhang | <Younder> Ignore me at your own perill | 13:53 |
| bazhang | tons of that ^^ | 13:53 |
| Pici | I already told him to move the randomness to #ubuntu-offtopic | 13:56 |
| bazhang | he stated that firewall did not use iptables | 13:57 |
| bazhang | argh | 14:03 |
| bazhang | ikonia, he means install only from nvidia website | 14:12 |
| bazhang | *ignore him at your perill* <-- his warning | 14:12 |
| ikonia | bazhang: that's unacceptable to advise to people blindly | 14:13 |
| bazhang | ikonia, of course it is; he is full of that of late | 14:14 |
| bazhang | banlist is full | 14:33 |
| jrib | i have some old bans | 14:34 |
| bazhang | what about the re-directs to #ubuntu-read-topic ? could they be removed? | 14:34 |
| jrib | bazhang: if they're old, yeah | 14:35 |
| bazhang | the majority seem to have no ownership (ie the sagan.freenode.net type) | 14:35 |
| bazhang | jrib, thanks | 14:35 |
| * jrib waits for ubottu.com | 14:36 | |
| jrib | :/ | 14:36 |
| bazhang | sorry for the flood | 14:38 |
| Pici | I should be the one apoligizing | 14:41 |
| bazhang | hehe | 14:41 |
| bazhang | if I went to the bantracker and tried to match some of the non-obvious bans (ie not the showmeyourt't.com ones) and removed that way, would that be acceptable? | 14:42 |
| jrib | i removed the arch-offtopic bans I had since their bans were several months old | 14:44 |
| ikonia | jrib: I was leaving them there on pupose | 14:47 |
| ikonia | due to the ammount of times they had trolled | 14:49 |
| jrib | ikonia: true but they were never given a chance after they were banned. Plus, it seems that they are now aware that the channel is frequented by a few ops so they don't seem to be using it to coordinate their efforts anymore | 14:49 |
| ikonia | jrib: they have been given MANY chances they are all multiple offenders, hence why I left the bans on | 14:50 |
| jrib | ikonia: if you feel otherwise though, I have no problem with you replacing the bans | 14:50 |
| elky | is it a full moon? | 14:50 |
| ikonia | jrib: not at all, you can leave them off, I'm just explaining my reasons for leaving them on | 14:50 |
| ikonia | I'd rather bruenig was left out please. | 14:50 |
| jrib | ikonia: I think I commented "archlinux-offtopic" on all of them | 14:50 |
| jrib | ikonia: I didn't touch bruenig's | 14:51 |
| ikonia | good | 14:51 |
| jrib | these were 3 bans several months old | 14:51 |
| ikonia | yeah wizord and some others | 14:51 |
| ikonia | luckstre or something like that from memory | 14:51 |
| jrib | badipod | 14:52 |
| jrib | and captain planet or something | 14:52 |
| ikonia | in fairness the chanenl pasted the "bacta" test the other day which was a good sine | 14:52 |
| ikonia | sighn | 14:52 |
| ikonia | sign | 14:52 |
| ikonia | ughhhh | 14:52 |
| bazhang | any objections to my catalzying younder ? he seems immune to warnings about being offtopic | 14:52 |
| jrib | bazhang: he seems like an anti-helper, yeah | 14:52 |
| jrib | ikonia: "bacta" test? | 14:52 |
| ikonia | I'm not happy with his advice | 14:52 |
| ikonia | jrib: bacta tried to provoke them into being an issue in #ubuntu - they all shot him down | 14:52 |
| jrib | ikonia: ah | 14:53 |
| ikonia | a solid result in my view thinking about it | 14:53 |
| Pici | fyi, if anyone needs it, I have a little script that generates the /mode commands needed to make multiple mode changes at once given a file containing hostmasks: http://nullcortex.com/upload/unban.sh | 14:53 |
| elky | ikonia, has bacta been trouble since then? i've not had any contact with him since. | 14:54 |
| bazhang | he was nicking in and out of Abortionist a day or so ago | 14:54 |
| ikonia | elky: not that I'm aware of, a few VERY minor comments in arch-offtopic but they where nothing of any interest | 14:54 |
| jrib | irssi-python at least had a nice command that did that automatically Pici . Since I don't use irssi anymore however, thanks! | 14:55 |
| elky | ikonia, so he's still in there? | 14:55 |
| jrib | elky: not now | 14:55 |
| ikonia | not at the momentm he's popped in a few times | 14:55 |
| ikonia | elky: positive news is each time they have shot him down as a troll, | 14:56 |
| elky | if he's persisting, i think he still thinks he's helping us somehow | 14:56 |
| ikonia | he's not dumb enough to think he's helping | 14:56 |
| bazhang | proceeding to match sagan.freenode.net bans and remove them (ie with bantracker) if there are no objections | 14:56 |
| ikonia | he's not been in for a while from what I've seen | 14:57 |
| ikonia | (few days) | 14:57 |
| elky | it's not about being dumb | 14:57 |
| genii | sagan is out of service now? | 14:57 |
| elky | the smartest people can do the stupidest things. | 14:57 |
| elky | he's sort of case in point to that. | 14:57 |
| bazhang | genii, just more of the bans are owned by them (ie not an operator ban) | 14:57 |
| genii | Aaah, got it | 14:58 |
| MenZa | Pici: cute. | 15:56 |
| Pici | gord: ping | 17:41 |
| Tm_T | brrrrrh, I hate that !nvidia factoid points to oldish wiki article | 17:46 |
| Pici | Has anyone spoken to Younder in private? | 17:46 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: update it then :D | 17:47 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: well, I'm using Intrepid myself, so I'm not qualified to write about newer releases | 17:48 |
| mneptok | maco: is your sailboat ready to receive the encrypted data? | 18:21 |
| * maco blinks | 18:21 | |
| mneptok | sorry, "54i18047" | 18:21 |
| mneptok | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ | 18:21 |
| maco | im in class. no youtube | 18:21 |
| mneptok | well, it's for everyone else, too. watch later. hysterical. | 18:22 |
| === maco_ is now known as maco | ||
| genii | The Younder in #u seems problemmatic right now but I'm otherwise occupied | 18:42 |
| genii | (advising someone shutdown - now for instance for some vncserver startup issue | 18:43 |
| genii | telling them to stop whining etc etc | 18:43 |
| genii | I found it odd that no !voip exists | 20:00 |
| Tm_T | oh? | 20:00 |
| Tm_T | !voip | 20:00 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about voip | 20:00 |
| Tm_T | genii: indeed, interested? | 20:01 |
| topyli | i can't take it. aubade, mc44, and snuxoll hare having a discussion on -ot | 20:45 |
| topyli | can't live with them, can't ban them | 20:45 |
| Pici | topyli: a discussion about what? | 20:46 |
| topyli | right now i have no idea, i'm not watching | 20:48 |
| topyli | previously it was about gnome3, then about snuxoll's employment situation | 20:49 |
| genii | Tm_T: Sure but it will have to be when I have some consecutive time to spare, unfortunately that's not right now | 20:50 |
| Tm_T | genii: np, who knows someone else make it before, shame I don't have knowhow of this subject | 20:54 |
| topyli | as long as it's not (only) "call your skype friends for free!" | 20:56 |
| topyli | i wish we could recommend empathy but i think right now an alias to !ekiga should do | 20:57 |
| topyli | !ekiga | 20:57 |
| ubottu | ekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga | 20:57 |
| topyli | hrm. we do need to say that skype is possible, if not supported | 20:59 |
| topyli | also, i don't know how good empathy's msn voice/video is. amsn is there. empathy does work with google talk | 21:01 |
| genii | !asterisk | 21:01 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about asterisk | 21:01 |
| genii | Hm | 21:01 |
| topyli | yeah, !voip should be a meta-factoid. there is no way we could cram everything into a single one. !sip could cover asterisk and ekiga. !skype deserves a factoid i guess. i don't know what to do with empathy, especially when amsn might still be a better msn client. empathy is the only google voice client | 21:04 |
| topyli | neat | 21:04 |
| genii | !voip | 21:12 |
| ubottu | VOIP is Voice Over IP. The default VOIP client for Ubuntu is Ekiga ( see !ekiga ). Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include Skype (see !skype ) and Gizmo. VOIP server applications include Asterisk ( in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX | 21:12 |
| Tm_T | that's nice | 21:13 |
| genii | Changes/remarks/suggestions welcomed | 21:14 |
| jussi01 | usually the convention is just !skype not, Skype (see !skype ) | 21:15 |
| mneptok | and i'd include Yate in the SIP server list | 21:16 |
| topyli | i'd brag about empathy's xmpp voice, since it's installed by default | 21:18 |
| topyli | well, google talk to normal people i guess | 21:19 |
| topyli | do normal people even use it? :) | 21:19 |
| genii | OK I'll make some changes when I get another few minutes free in a row here | 21:22 |
| topyli | :) | 21:22 |
| topyli | also, Gizmo5 is the brand these days (don't ask me why) | 21:23 |
| genii | !voip | 21:33 |
| ubottu | VOIP is Voice Over IP. The default VOIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VOIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX. | 21:33 |
| genii | !Empathy | 21:38 |
| ubottu | Empathy is an instant messaging and video chat client for GNOME. In !karmic, Empathy will replace Pidgin as the default IM client. | 21:38 |
| genii | I'm so tempted now to make ones like !asterisk !gizmo5 !kphone etc... | 21:39 |
| mneptok | !sorry_i_dont_know_anything_about | 21:42 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 21:42 |
| topyli | looks pretty nice! | 21:42 |
| MenZa | erm, s/VOIP/VoIP? | 21:43 |
| MenZa | :p | 21:43 |
| topyli | well yeah :) | 21:43 |
| genii | MenZa: I guess it depends if you uppercase the o in "over" :) | 21:44 |
| * mneptok would | 21:44 | |
| topyli | the convention is not to, though | 21:44 |
| genii | Changed | 21:45 |
| genii | !voip | 21:45 |
| ubottu | VoIP is Voice over IP. The default VoIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VoIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX. | 21:45 |
| genii | If someone could do sometime a !tether factoid, I don't know much about it unfortunately. But i see more and more people asking about how to use their phone as a modem these days and not much resources for it | 21:47 |
| * genii hands topyli a coffee | 21:47 | |
| Flannel | !tether | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about tether | 21:51 |
| Flannel | Oh, do sometime, not do something about. | 21:51 |
| * Flannel lurns to reed. | 21:51 | |
| topyli | hmm | 21:52 |
| topyli | with tethering, things are very much different between karmic and hardy | 21:52 |
| topyli | i'll give it some thought | 21:53 |
| Flannel | There's a few blogs about it, and an Ubuntu forum thing. and... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TetheringMobilePhone | 21:53 |
| Flannel | Not quite a full featured page, but it's a start. | 21:53 |
| topyli | in karmic, it's pretty much plug-and-play with usb cable, thank you network hackers | 21:57 |
| topyli | in hardy (lts), it's a bit involved | 21:57 |
| topyli | oh man iirc i googled a lot and wrote udev rules and hated ubuntu when i tethered my phone in hardy | 22:01 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, paspalhao said: ubottu, if there is a channel for italian, maybe there is one for spanish even portuguese, isn't it ? | 22:02 |
| topyli | was looking for something i may have written about this, but looks like my mobile-related posts are from more like 2006, thankfully | 22:08 |
| topyli | "mounting the filesystem on a nokia 9300", requires p3nfs on the machine and a client on the phone, bluetooth trickery and something like 20 days of time | 22:09 |
| OzFalcon | Hi, I just tried to use Irc, And it says I am banned? (Used it the other day without issue). Some sort of error? | 22:16 |
| topyli | OzFalcon, hi | 22:17 |
| topyli | please one moment | 22:17 |
| OzFalcon | k | 22:17 |
| topyli | in #ubuntu? | 22:18 |
| OzFalcon | yes | 22:19 |
| topyli | if you were there recently, i can't really tell | 22:20 |
| topyli | someone more enlightened? | 22:20 |
| OzFalcon | I think I was there about 2 days ago. | 22:20 |
| OzFalcon | Not sure why who or what. | 22:20 |
| Seeker` | @bansearch OzFalcon | 22:22 |
| ubottu | Match: *!*@c122-106-*.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au by Flannel in #ubuntu on Nov 08 2009 23:25:30 (ID: 19013) | 22:22 |
| OzFalcon | I left irc myself. No Op intervention. No issues. Just when I tried again it didnt let me | 22:22 |
| Seeker` | that is about as enlightened I am | 22:23 |
| topyli | oh i missed that completely, was probably using a cached version of the web interface or something | 22:23 |
| OzFalcon | Is that saying "Flannel" banned me? Never spoke (or heard of) him/her. | 22:23 |
| topyli | well, if Flannel is around, there will be a comment shortly no doubt | 22:24 |
| Seeker` | that is what it is saying? | 22:24 |
| Seeker` | -? | 22:24 |
| Seeker` | @btlogin | 22:24 |
| OzFalcon | Why would I be banned AFTER I leave IRC? | 22:25 |
| Seeker` | 4chan spammer on c122-106-* | 22:26 |
| OzFalcon | eh? | 22:26 |
| Seeker` | topyli: enlightened enough? I am a little busy | 22:27 |
| OzFalcon | @bansearch OzFalcon | 22:28 |
| OzFalcon | how did you get ubottu to do that? | 22:29 |
| Seeker` | I am an op | 22:29 |
| topyli | OzFalcon, only ops have access to the database | 22:29 |
| OzFalcon | ok. need to be op. | 22:29 |
| OzFalcon | so what does "4chan spammer on c122-106-*" mean? | 22:30 |
| Seeker` | it means that there was a spammer on a similar IP to you | 22:30 |
| OzFalcon | oh. Great. | 22:30 |
| topyli | Seeker`, i'm not an op on #ubuntu | 22:31 |
| OzFalcon | But IP's are specific. So why ban a swath? | 22:32 |
| nalioth | OzFalcon: abuse? | 22:32 |
| OzFalcon | Don't anser that. (I know) | 22:32 |
| nalioth | when an abusive user keeps recycling their modem to gain a new IP, measures like this have to be taken | 22:32 |
| OzFalcon | ie if the spammer can change ip , You need to ..... yeah that IP/modem thing. | 22:33 |
| OzFalcon | But why the hell would you bother? | 22:33 |
| OzFalcon | Anyway. Can someone overide it. It's impacting on legit users. (ME) | 22:34 |
| topyli | to keep the channels tidy? | 22:34 |
| OzFalcon | I first noticed it yesterday. Thought it would have passed by today. Now it's becoming an inconveince. | 22:35 |
| OzFalcon | topyli, (No I mean why would the spammer bother cycling their modem just to spam. It's Insane) | 22:37 |
| topyli | OzFalcon, yes it is, isn't it | 22:37 |
| topyli | anyway, i have to go get some sleep now. hopefully this will be sorted soon. cheers | 22:38 |
| OzFalcon | Well Who will sort it then? | 22:38 |
| OzFalcon | C U. | 22:39 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, sevdalin said: !why is ubuntu sux ;] | 23:05 |
| bazhang | <phyrrus> If you need support with fluxbox in ubuntu, join #ubuntu-fluxbox I joined and asked if this was official, also asked him not to advertise, and he kb'd me. Have to head out for a bit | 23:11 |
| mneptok | 16:49 [Freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Information on #fluxbuntu: | 23:50 |
| mneptok | 16:49 [Freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Registered : Jun 02 16:33:18 2006 (3 years, 23 weeks, 3 days, 07:16:24 ago) | 23:50 |
| mneptok | #ubuntu-fluxbox was registered 45 minutes ago | 23:50 |
| nalioth | mneptok: yeah, it's not gonna last long | 23:56 |
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