| === evand is now known as ev | ||
| sadmac | Keybuk: what are you doing with plymouth? | 14:26 |
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| Keybuk | sadmac: replacing usplash and xsplash with it | 14:27 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: I guessed. :) What's this new functionality you've added? | 14:27 |
| Keybuk | there's a debug x11 renderer in it | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | I turned it into a proper "fullscreen on each head" renderer | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | and added the code to let you pause the display | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | start X | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | then resume animating on a new X window | 14:29 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: I haven't noticed x/gdm taking long enough to start for me to want that, but go for it :) | 14:30 |
| Keybuk | gdm takes 2-3 seconds | 14:31 |
| Keybuk | but it's GNOME that's the POS here | 14:31 |
| Keybuk | auto-login takes 6-15s after X is started | 14:32 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: yeah, rstrode/some others said that they might need to beat that down (again, apparently there's been a lot of yoyoing in gnome startup time in the past). | 14:33 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 14:33 |
| Keybuk | but then they start mewing about "It's all I/O because on a cold cache" | 14:33 |
| Keybuk | and it so isn't | 14:33 |
| Keybuk | because ureadahead warms the cache up very nicely, and it still takes that long (with no disk activity) | 14:33 |
| === Keybuk_ is now known as Keybuk | ||
| === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk | ||
| Keybuk | bloody race conditions | 20:07 |
| Keybuk | turns out that if you don't idle the plugin | 20:07 |
| Keybuk | then it's still going to animate after you dlclose() it | 20:07 |
| Keybuk | which crashes plymouth while X is starting | 20:07 |
| Keybuk | which forces the console into KD_TEXT | 20:07 |
| Keybuk | which upsets X too | 20:07 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: have you been in touch with Ray? | 20:09 |
| Keybuk | Ray has been very helpful :) | 20:10 |
| Keybuk | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/plymouth/ | 20:10 |
| Keybuk | note top three commits ;) | 20:10 |
| sadmac | I take it those were at your request? | 20:13 |
| sadmac | ah, detailed message explains all | 20:13 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: so how are y'all feeling about plymouth. Still kicking around other options? | 20:13 |
| Keybuk | y'all doesn't happen until next week | 20:14 |
| Keybuk | I'm trying to make plymouth work, so that when everyone's together next week, I can go "look, it works, it's perfect, now can we kill usplash?" | 20:14 |
| sadmac | ahh | 20:14 |
| Keybuk | (and xsplash) | 20:15 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: what about the KMS thing? Just not bothered by it, or does the new nvidia stuff cover enough of your users now? | 20:15 |
| * sadmac was pleased that plymouth started working graphically in F12 | 20:15 | |
| Keybuk | plymouth works with vga16fb | 20:17 |
| Keybuk | I think I've sold Mark on the idea that he can have a b/w 16 colour logo for the non-KMS crowd | 20:18 |
| Keybuk | (ie. just like our usplash theme) | 20:18 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: and it springs to life once you shift it on top of X? | 20:19 |
| Keybuk | exactly | 20:20 |
| sadmac | wayland is much more famous as a town (several towns really) than as a windowing system | 20:20 |
| Keybuk | yes | 20:22 |
| Keybuk | I was noticing your town naming scheme | 20:22 |
| === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew | ||
| sadmac | Keybuk: I'm not sure if it was a RH-initiated project, but Beryl is a road not far from the Raleigh office. It has a waffle house on it. | 20:24 |
| sadmac | I don't think there's any official policy about naming things after places, and I also don't believe Wayland was produced under orders from RH anyway. | 20:25 |
| sadmac | weird little groupthink thing we have going I guess. | 20:26 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 20:26 |
| Keybuk | like our one of "open a dictionary at U and start reading until you find one" | 20:26 |
| Keybuk | completely unofficial | 20:27 |
| sadmac | heh | 20:27 |
| Keybuk | but when stuck for a name, it's what most people do :) | 20:27 |
| sadmac | I'm really good at coming up with project names | 20:28 |
| Keybuk | I'm terrible at it | 20:29 |
| Keybuk | (upstart was very much an "open the dictionary at U" name) | 20:29 |
| Keybuk | ureadahead was "argh, can't think of a name, ok U <whatever it was>" | 20:29 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: just about any time I think of a project idea I create a folder in ~/coding with that name. I have a lot of empty folders with really awesome-sounding names. | 20:30 |
| Keybuk | haha | 20:30 |
| sadmac | some of them at least have a .git folder | 20:30 |
| sadmac | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120271945 | 20:32 |
| sadmac | Open source limbs? | 20:32 |
| === sadmac_ is now known as sadmac_home | ||
| === mbiebl_ is now known as mbiebl | ||
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