=== evand is now known as ev [14:26] Keybuk: what are you doing with plymouth? [14:27] sadmac: replacing usplash and xsplash with it [14:27] Keybuk: I guessed. :) What's this new functionality you've added? [14:29] there's a debug x11 renderer in it [14:29] I turned it into a proper "fullscreen on each head" renderer [14:29] and added the code to let you pause the display [14:29] start X [14:29] then resume animating on a new X window [14:30] Keybuk: I haven't noticed x/gdm taking long enough to start for me to want that, but go for it :) [14:31] gdm takes 2-3 seconds [14:31] but it's GNOME that's the POS here [14:32] auto-login takes 6-15s after X is started [14:33] Keybuk: yeah, rstrode/some others said that they might need to beat that down (again, apparently there's been a lot of yoyoing in gnome startup time in the past). [14:33] yeah [14:33] but then they start mewing about "It's all I/O because on a cold cache" [14:33] and it so isn't [14:33] because ureadahead warms the cache up very nicely, and it still takes that long (with no disk activity) === Keybuk_ is now known as Keybuk === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk [20:07] bloody race conditions [20:07] turns out that if you don't idle the plugin [20:07] then it's still going to animate after you dlclose() it [20:07] which crashes plymouth while X is starting [20:07] which forces the console into KD_TEXT [20:07] which upsets X too [20:09] Keybuk: have you been in touch with Ray? [20:10] Ray has been very helpful :) [20:10] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/plymouth/ [20:10] note top three commits ;) [20:13] I take it those were at your request? [20:13] ah, detailed message explains all [20:13] Keybuk: so how are y'all feeling about plymouth. Still kicking around other options? [20:14] y'all doesn't happen until next week [20:14] I'm trying to make plymouth work, so that when everyone's together next week, I can go "look, it works, it's perfect, now can we kill usplash?" [20:14] ahh [20:15] (and xsplash) [20:15] Keybuk: what about the KMS thing? Just not bothered by it, or does the new nvidia stuff cover enough of your users now? [20:15] * sadmac was pleased that plymouth started working graphically in F12 [20:17] plymouth works with vga16fb [20:18] I think I've sold Mark on the idea that he can have a b/w 16 colour logo for the non-KMS crowd [20:18] (ie. just like our usplash theme) [20:19] Keybuk: and it springs to life once you shift it on top of X? [20:20] exactly [20:20] wayland is much more famous as a town (several towns really) than as a windowing system [20:22] yes [20:22] I was noticing your town naming scheme === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew [20:24] Keybuk: I'm not sure if it was a RH-initiated project, but Beryl is a road not far from the Raleigh office. It has a waffle house on it. [20:25] I don't think there's any official policy about naming things after places, and I also don't believe Wayland was produced under orders from RH anyway. [20:26] weird little groupthink thing we have going I guess. [20:26] yeah [20:26] like our one of "open a dictionary at U and start reading until you find one" [20:27] completely unofficial [20:27] heh [20:27] but when stuck for a name, it's what most people do :) [20:28] I'm really good at coming up with project names [20:29] I'm terrible at it [20:29] (upstart was very much an "open the dictionary at U" name) [20:29] ureadahead was "argh, can't think of a name, ok U " [20:30] Keybuk: just about any time I think of a project idea I create a folder in ~/coding with that name. I have a lot of empty folders with really awesome-sounding names. [20:30] haha [20:30] some of them at least have a .git folder [20:32] http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120271945 [20:32] Open source limbs? === sadmac_ is now known as sadmac_home === mbiebl_ is now known as mbiebl