| === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ | ||
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| criss | hi what would be the best requirements PC wise to run ubuntu 9.10 on? | 00:13 |
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| Refraxx | I need some help. My desktop is acting real squirrely. It looks like a checkerboard all over. I can't reset it & I know for a fact it is not from a pic I downloaded from the net-so I don't know where it came from. | 00:20 |
| Refraxx | Please help | 00:20 |
| aluno | oo | 00:20 |
| Refraxx | Also, the desktop folder at the top right is missing. | 00:20 |
| Refraxx | anyone have any ideas? | 00:21 |
| aluno | wats you location in a country | 00:21 |
| aluno | ??? | 00:21 |
| Refraxx | USA | 00:21 |
| aluno | lol | 00:21 |
| aluno | me in brazilian | 00:21 |
| aluno | lol | 00:21 |
| Refraxx | :-) | 00:22 |
| Refraxx | any ideas on how to fix this problem? | 00:22 |
| Refraxx | I need some help. Is anyone available? | 00:25 |
| Pavel_ | Refraxx, is is 9.04? | 00:26 |
| Refraxx | yes | 00:26 |
| Refraxx | why? | 00:27 |
| Pavel_ | cause I haven't touched 9.10 yet :p | 00:27 |
| Refraxx | Me neither. Now I can't. The little window that holds the clipboard & stuff is blank | 00:28 |
| Pavel_ | let me think about where this was... you're going to delete two files plasmarc and something and then log out and in | 00:28 |
| Pavel_ | let me figure out where I've written this down... | 00:28 |
| Refraxx | k | 00:28 |
| Pavel_ | go to .kde/share/config | 00:29 |
| Pavel_ | this may be hidden. You should be able to get into it through your home folder | 00:29 |
| Pavel_ | let me know when you've done that | 00:29 |
| Refraxx | k. Gimmie a sec... | 00:29 |
| szal | Pavel_: it _is_ hidden, that's the definition of dotfiles and -folders | 00:30 |
| Pavel_ | unhide it | 00:30 |
| Pavel_ | delete the files "plasmarc" and "plasma-appletsic", then log out and back in. This will restore the default desktop settings. | 00:31 |
| Refraxx | yeah...I don't yet see it. How do I tell the computer I am lookin' for it? | 00:31 |
| florrin | Hello! Can anyone tell me why i can't join a channel?..... pls.... | 00:31 |
| Refraxx | i.e how do I search for it? | 00:31 |
| Pavel_ | go to your home folder in dolphin | 00:32 |
| Flootenkerp | Does anyone here use mupen64plus? I need help configuring the controls on it. | 00:32 |
| Pavel_ | florrin, what channel are you trying to join? | 00:32 |
| dezk | HELLO | 00:32 |
| florrin | any channel... | 00:32 |
| Pavel_ | refraxx, in your home folder is there a folder named '.kde' ? | 00:32 |
| dezk | I NEED SOME HELP TO USE OREGANO | 00:32 |
| dezk | I NEED TO SIMULATE A JFET N | 00:33 |
| florrin | i can't connect to a channel...to any channel | 00:33 |
| szal | dezk: 1. DON'T SHOUT! 2. Specify your problem as exactly as possible, we can't read your mind | 00:33 |
| rww | florrin: which IRC client are you using? | 00:33 |
| Flootenkerp | Then it's a problem with your IRC client. | 00:33 |
| dezk | THERE IS NO MODEL IN THE LIBRARI FOR THIS | 00:33 |
| Pavel_ | florrin, so you're only in here because it's the default quassel right? | 00:33 |
| florrin | yes | 00:34 |
| Pavel_ | florrin, file->networks->configure networks... | 00:35 |
| florrin | rww: Konversation (Ubuntu) | 00:35 |
| dezk | i need to find a model for a transistor JFET N | 00:35 |
| Flootenkerp | So, no one here uses mupen64plus? | 00:35 |
| Pavel_ | florrin, I'm in quassel, sorry | 00:35 |
| dezk | for oregano | 00:36 |
| Pavel_ | refraxx, did you find home/.kde? | 00:36 |
| florrin | Pavel_: quassel is working on ubuntu? | 00:36 |
| rww | quassel works fine in ubuntu | 00:36 |
| Pavel_ | florrin, yes, though I am on kubuntu... | 00:36 |
| florrin | thank you | 00:36 |
| Pavel_ | Refraxx, are you there? | 00:37 |
| Refraxx | Pavel: I looked it up & it said it can't find the file..... | 00:38 |
| Pavel_ | it's becdause it's hidden, here's what to do | 00:38 |
| Pavel_ | go to your home folder in dolphin | 00:38 |
| Refraxx | I got that far.... | 00:38 |
| Refraxx | now what? | 00:38 |
| Pavel_ | is there a folder named .kde? | 00:38 |
| Refraxx | yes, I see it | 00:39 |
| Refraxx | its in there, isint it? | 00:39 |
| Pavel_ | go in there, and then into 'share' | 00:39 |
| Refraxx | ok, I'm there. Now what? | 00:40 |
| Pavel_ | go into the 'config' folder | 00:40 |
| Pavel_ | can you see the files? or are they hidden? | 00:40 |
| Refraxx | Folder after folder.....when they hide something they REALLY hide it | 00:41 |
| Pavel_ | are you in the config folder? | 00:41 |
| Refraxx | I do see a lot of files | 00:41 |
| Refraxx | yes | 00:41 |
| Pavel_ | okay, delete these two : "plasmarc" and "plasma-appletsic" | 00:41 |
| Refraxx | ok | 00:41 |
| Pavel_ | and then log out of kubuntu and then log back in. Your desltop should be restored to the default | 00:42 |
| Pavel_ | you won't lose any files such as background images, you'll just have to reapply those settings | 00:42 |
| Refraxx | ok. Thank you very much | 00:42 |
| usuario_ | oi | 00:42 |
| Refraxx | Um, Pavel? | 00:43 |
| Pavel_ | yes? | 00:44 |
| Refraxx | I see one labeled "plasma-appletsrc" is that the one? | 00:44 |
| Pavel_ | yeah, sorry | 00:45 |
| Refraxx | ok, cool | 00:45 |
| Pavel_ | typing with a bandaid on one finger haha | 00:45 |
| Refraxx | all I have to do is reset. if it doesn't work, "I'll be back" | 00:46 |
| Pavel_ | just log out and in | 00:46 |
| Serpardum | is there any command I can use to look at machine temperatures? I'm running kubuntu desktop off the CD. This machine is overheating and I want to try to find out why | 00:59 |
| Serpardum | Not my machine, fixing a friends. | 00:59 |
| szal | Serpardum: try if 'sensors' returns anything; if not, get a real diagnosis live CD such as grml or SystemRescueCd | 01:00 |
| Serpardum | no sensors. hmm... grml. let me look for that | 01:02 |
| genii | !info lmsensors | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Package lmsensors does not exist in karmic | 01:02 |
| genii | Hm | 01:02 |
| clustermagnet | guys... getting a compile time error.... /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lexpat | 01:02 |
| clustermagnet | how do i get expat installed :) | 01:02 |
| clustermagnet | i've dont the normal apt-get install expat | 01:02 |
| clustermagnet | kubuntu 9.1 | 01:03 |
| clustermagnet | i may have it figure out.... | 01:04 |
| clustermagnet | how can i get apt to tell me which libs i need to install? thanks! | 01:04 |
| clustermagnet | i fixed it with runnning kpackagekit... and selecting every expat option there :) | 01:05 |
| genii | clustermagnet: When looking for which package contains what files, http://packages.ubuntu.com is often of use | 01:05 |
| clustermagnet | whats the command line way of searching for hte same thing? | 01:05 |
| clustermagnet | genii: perfect | 01:05 |
| BluesKaj | libs ? you need to fix your repos | 01:05 |
| clustermagnet | thank you | 01:05 |
| EagleScreen | clustermagnet: 'apt-get build-dep package_name' may be useful for you | 01:06 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| dezk | hello my friends | 01:08 |
| dezk | i need help whit oregano | 01:09 |
| dezk | whit the jfet-n trnsistor | 01:10 |
| === anita is now known as NSsmiles | ||
| NSsmiles | hi | 01:18 |
| NSsmiles | anyone here? | 01:18 |
| === duff is now known as German | ||
| NSsmiles | hi german | 01:19 |
| === German is now known as Guest17380 | ||
| Guest17380 | hi NSsmiles | 01:20 |
| === Guest17380 is now known as German- | ||
| NSsmiles | can anyone help with ipod and ubuntu | 01:20 |
| NSsmiles | i'm new and cant get ipod to work | 01:20 |
| German- | sorry i havnt got an ipod :( | 01:21 |
| NSsmiles | :-( | 01:21 |
| Syliss | which ipod and which ubuntu/ | 01:22 |
| Syliss | ? | 01:22 |
| NSsmiles | ipod touch ubuntu 9.10 | 01:22 |
| Syliss | ipod touch wont work yet on ubuntu | 01:22 |
| NSsmiles | awe!! | 01:23 |
| Syliss | well at least not easily | 01:23 |
| NSsmiles | oh | 01:23 |
| NSsmiles | can you explain? | 01:23 |
| Syliss | looking into it now | 01:24 |
| NSsmiles | ok | 01:24 |
| Syliss | look up ifuse | 01:25 |
| Syliss | there is a lot of issues right now with ipod touch | 01:26 |
| NSsmiles | ok | 01:26 |
| Syliss | best bet is run either osx or win atm | 01:26 |
| NSsmiles | what is ifuse | 01:26 |
| Syliss | a program that mounts the ipod | 01:26 |
| NSsmiles | i only have linux on the pc | 01:27 |
| NSsmiles | ok | 01:27 |
| NSsmiles | i'll try that | 01:27 |
| Syliss | did it come with a windows key? | 01:27 |
| Syliss | is it prebuilt or custom? | 01:27 |
| NSsmiles | my pc crashed | 01:27 |
| NSsmiles | when i put ubuntu on it ...its all i have | 01:28 |
| Syliss | okay it crashed | 01:28 |
| Syliss | was it windows? | 01:28 |
| NSsmiles | yeah xp | 01:28 |
| Syliss | then just reinstall | 01:28 |
| Syliss | easy | 01:29 |
| NSsmiles | if that's the only way to use ipod it guess i'll have to | 01:29 |
| Syliss | lol | 01:29 |
| NSsmiles | i guess* | 01:30 |
| Syliss | just dual boot | 01:30 |
| SiegeLord | Heya, I dragged the Windows partition onto the desktop from dolphin, and clicked to 'link here' and this operation deleted all the files from the windows partition, leaving the directories in place | 01:30 |
| SiegeLord | Any ideas what happened there? | 01:30 |
| * Ev0luti0n_ listening to Sinister - Magnified Wrath | 01:31 | |
| Mandingo | my system has 6 drives that are xfs and keep getting mounted and unmounted, this in turn is causing my video playback to stutter is there a way that i can turn that off or reduce it | 01:46 |
| Refraxx | Pavel, are you online? | 01:51 |
| Mandingo | my system has 6 drives that are xfs and keep getting mounted and unmounted, this in turn is causing my video playback to stutter is there a way that i can turn that off or reduce it | 01:52 |
| amandaberes | Where can I put the deb package files in a 9.10 kubuntu filesystem? | 01:55 |
| === amandaberes is now known as ner0x | ||
| rwt | hi | 01:55 |
| Joelito | hi, rwt | 01:56 |
| rwt | should i switch to kubuntu? | 01:56 |
| Joelito | rwt, why not? | 01:56 |
| ner0x | rwt: Do I like cows? | 01:56 |
| rwt | using ubuntu right now and its bad with my system | 01:57 |
| Joelito | why bad? | 01:57 |
| rwt | freezes | 01:57 |
| rwt | bugs | 01:57 |
| rwt | have not been fixed yet | 01:57 |
| ner0x | Kubuntu is ubuntu with different packages installed. | 01:57 |
| rwt | i know | 01:58 |
| Joelito | maybe he meant gnome | 01:58 |
| rwt | the live cd is working fine though | 01:58 |
| rwt | yea | 01:58 |
| rwt | kde over gnome | 01:58 |
| Joelito | when your ubuntu started to go bad? | 01:58 |
| rwt | when I upgraded to 9.10 | 01:59 |
| rwt | started getting kernel panics | 01:59 |
| rwt | so I reported the bug | 01:59 |
| rwt | I put in a kubuntu 9.10 live cd I have and it works fine with no problems | 02:00 |
| Joelito | well, if you getting kernel panics, kubuntu will behave the same..since share the same kernel version | 02:00 |
| Joelito | than ubuntu | 02:00 |
| rwt | it hasn't so far | 02:00 |
| rwt | i've been using it for only about a 1/2 hour | 02:01 |
| ner0x | Where can I put .deb files so that apt-get will install them? | 02:01 |
| Joelito | ner0x: use dpkg -i file.deb | 02:02 |
| Joelito | you'll need sudo for that | 02:02 |
| ner0x | Joelito: There is no where to put all the downloaded packages? | 02:02 |
| kubian | netr0X: put naywhere u want but dpkg is the to use to install deb files | 02:03 |
| Joelito | what about the deb chache? | 02:03 |
| rwt | you need sudo for apt-get also dont you? | 02:03 |
| rwt | install | 02:03 |
| Joelito | where apt uses to store the downloaded files instead to re-download them again | 02:04 |
| ner0x | Joelito: That's what I'm asking for. | 02:04 |
| Joelito | ner0x: I think is in /var/apt/somewhere | 02:04 |
| Joelito | well | 02:05 |
| Joelito | is in /var/cache/apt/archives | 02:05 |
| rwt | if you guys use 9.10 how are you likeing it? | 02:07 |
| ner0x | I don't have internet yet. | 02:08 |
| Syliss | rwt, how fast cpu and how much ram is your system? | 02:09 |
| rwt | Its a 2.13 ghz centrino duo processor | 02:09 |
| rwt | with 4gb of ddr3 ram | 02:10 |
| rwt | i think its at 1066 | 02:10 |
| rwt | why | 02:10 |
| Joelito | rwt, I always loved recent but also stable apps, so right now my kubuntu is very nice :D | 02:11 |
| rwt | im on 9.04 right now, will upgrade to 9.10 when bugs are fixed | 02:14 |
| kubian | ner0x: apt-get will not install deb files. use dpkg | 02:14 |
| rwt | dpkg -i | 02:14 |
| rwt | anyone into programming? | 02:16 |
| Joelito | rwt, me | 02:16 |
| rwt | I have to learn this wierd language for a robot for school | 02:16 |
| rwt | have you ever heard of G langiage | 02:17 |
| rwt | LabVIEW | 02:17 |
| Joelito | no | 02:17 |
| rwt | It propietary :( :( | 02:17 |
| rwt | no other option but it | 02:18 |
| ner0x | Where can I see a package list? | 02:18 |
| ner0x | I need wireless drivers. | 02:18 |
| kubian | what's the syntax like? | 02:18 |
| rwt | no syntax | 02:18 |
| Joelito | bye | 02:18 |
| rwt | flow charts | 02:18 |
| rwt | i mean data flow | 02:18 |
| rwt | diagrams, pics, etc... | 02:19 |
| kubian | like ladders? | 02:19 |
| rwt | what do you mean "ladders" | 02:20 |
| rwt | oh, yea, its alittle like ladders | 02:20 |
| rwt | very close actually | 02:21 |
| kubian | kind of forgot what it is but it's used in controls | 02:21 |
| kubian | heard of omron? | 02:22 |
| rwt | no | 02:22 |
| kubian | they make programmable logic controls - | 02:22 |
| rwt | oh | 02:22 |
| kubian | kind of robotic machines use in assembly/production lines | 02:23 |
| rwt | are robot is for compitition, but im sure you could use that language | 02:24 |
| rwt | we have the option of using JAVA and C++ | 02:25 |
| rwt | but it will take longer to learn because we have no instructer/teacher | 02:25 |
| kubian | learning how to program itself takes time. | 02:26 |
| kubian | what exactly u want to promgram? I mean what aspect of the robot? like amr manipulation? | 02:26 |
| rwt | everything, movement, sensors, all kinds of other stuff | 02:28 |
| kubian | C++ wud be ideal because then you can model say an arm..build the object arm then build it's methods,etc | 02:28 |
| giz | hey guys very cool the robot stuff but offtopic is your channel here kubuntu support ;) | 02:29 |
| Syliss | hmm i installed kubuntu via wubi and idk if im going to keep it | 02:29 |
| rwt | I know more C++ than G but not enough to do that | 02:29 |
| Syliss | g? | 02:30 |
| kubian | rwt: u might look into debian.org where it won the robotic submarine | 02:30 |
| rwt | wired programming languagr | 02:30 |
| rwt | sorry, weird | 02:30 |
| rwt | programming language | 02:31 |
| === mirco_ is now known as mirco | ||
| Syliss | ah | 02:32 |
| rwt | See ya, got to go read some LabVIEW | 02:36 |
| l2trace99_ | has any one had problems with konversation not displaying irc chat text ? | 02:37 |
| ner0x | Does anyone here actually know anything about kubuntu? | 02:40 |
| === l2trace99_ is now known as l2trace9 | ||
| === l2trace9 is now known as l2trace99 | ||
| Lord_Drachenblut | ner0x: what's the question | 02:42 |
| genii | Apparently there isn't one | 03:01 |
| giz | tjirp tjirp LOL | 03:01 |
| criss | hi all | 03:05 |
| giz | hi criss | 03:05 |
| criss | whats the minimum sys requirements for ubuntu 9.10? | 03:06 |
| pickles | that its turned on | 03:06 |
| criss | i just downloaded it now but not seeming to get it installed | 03:06 |
| criss | haha | 03:06 |
| RenatoSilva | how to increase screen resolution in VirtualBox for Kubuntu up from 800x600? That's the max value available in KDE config. | 03:06 |
| RenatoSilva | VirtualBox is buggy btw | 03:07 |
| pickles | criss: its a bootable cd. make sure your system can boot from a cd rom, place it in the tray, hit restart, follow instructions | 03:07 |
| criss | its not going giving some error cant find suitable filesystem | 03:07 |
| criss | i have 2 hdd in the pc 1 has windows on it ... the other has ubuntu 6.04 | 03:08 |
| genii | criss: Generally speaking... MIN: 256Mb RAM, 6Gb hd space, Pentium 3 or better | 03:08 |
| asif | Hello | 03:08 |
| pickles | that would be with a standard gnome desktop | 03:09 |
| pickles | with xubuntu you could do with far less for example | 03:09 |
| pickles | but what genii said is about right, maybe 512 megs of ram | 03:09 |
| criss | okay... hmm | 03:10 |
| pickles | criss: so you reboot yoru box with the cd in and what happens? | 03:10 |
| criss | it brings up the start up screen of the cd where you either run from CD or install ubuntu | 03:10 |
| criss | after selecting install ubuntu | 03:10 |
| criss | it shows the white logo for a bit | 03:10 |
| criss | then goes blank and then shoots out that error | 03:10 |
| criss | cant find suitable filesystem | 03:11 |
| genii | For testing purposes i have a Pentium 2-400Mhz, 6Gb hd, 256Mb box. Kubuntu runs on it, but not very well | 03:12 |
| Spurs_ | n #xubuntu | 03:14 |
| criss | i think ill try the cd in a other machine and take it from there im almost certain its just the pc i have lol ... | 03:14 |
| ^peter^ | Could some one please give me a pointer to figure out where to access newly installed programs which have not shown up in the K menu | 03:28 |
| CupofDice | How should I go about adding space (10gb) from my /home to my Root? already got partition manager installed, but i don't want to screw anything up | 03:30 |
| claydoh | ^peter^: depends, a little. some apps are non-graphical so you run them by typing the name in a Konsole window | 03:31 |
| claydoh | ^peter^: also you try typing in the name in krunner (alt-f2) | 03:32 |
| ^peter^ | claydoh many thanks for that. Bit embarrassing a I ;oaded a lot of programs, so will go back to the installer to get their proper names. | 03:39 |
| claydoh | ^peter^: sometimes an app may not show up until logout and re-login | 03:40 |
| claydoh | any particular apps? | 03:41 |
| ^peter^ | claydoh ah that may be the clue as I have not logged out since installing. | 03:41 |
| seisers | does anybody have any experience with video capture cards? I'm trying to get a hauppage wintv hvr 2250 to work, but no luck so far | 03:42 |
| prakash_ | hello | 03:50 |
| === fiberfolly_ is now known as fiberfolly | ||
| epicreviews | I need help getting Amarok working, but I'm in Ubuntu, not Kubuntu. I need to install some KDE library I think, but I can't remember what it is. | 03:58 |
| kisuke | dear god how do turn off the sparkles?????????????????????????? | 03:59 |
| kisuke | you* | 03:59 |
| kisuke | epicreviews use synaptic package manager | 04:00 |
| epicreviews | kisuke: I'm in synaptic, installing Amarok alone won't make it work. | 04:01 |
| === luis__ is now known as cucaraxo | ||
| kisuke | epicreviews one min need to switch | 04:01 |
| cucaraxo | hola hola kubunteros | 04:01 |
| cucaraxo | como esta la version 9.10 de la distro? | 04:02 |
| _nix_ | sparkles? | 04:02 |
| cucaraxo | yes | 04:03 |
| _nix_ | how do you stop konqueror from prompting for additional packages for multimedia functionality? | 04:07 |
| kisuke | epicreviews: there should be a box that comes up and asks if you want to install dependeces | 04:07 |
| epicreviews | kisuke: did that, still doesn't work | 04:08 |
| epicreviews | kisuke: what all mp3 codecs, etc. do I need? | 04:10 |
| epicreviews | just to make sure I have them | 04:10 |
| kisuke | epicreviews: what were you tring to install | 04:11 |
| epicreviews | just amarok | 04:11 |
| epicreviews | do I need something like libsnack2 or libsnack2-alsa? | 04:12 |
| kisuke | weird try to reinstall it and post the terminal output to http://paste.ubuntu.org and post a link here | 04:12 |
| epicreviews | that's not the problem | 04:13 |
| epicreviews | I remember I had to install a package | 04:13 |
| epicreviews | I had this exact problem last time I set up Ubuntu | 04:13 |
| kisuke | where was it from? | 04:13 |
| epicreviews | I don't remember >_< | 04:13 |
| kisuke | and it was k<something> right? | 04:14 |
| epicreviews | I think so | 04:14 |
| epicreviews | I _think_ it was KDE related | 04:14 |
| kisuke | how did you get it? | 04:14 |
| epicreviews | synaptic | 04:14 |
| epicreviews | I was doing like I am now: installing everything I can | 04:14 |
| kisuke | do you want a side of fail sause with that order? | 04:16 |
| epicreviews | hey it worked last time | 04:16 |
| kisuke | if you do that things will conflict, i llearned that the hard way | 04:16 |
| epicreviews | well what should I do | 04:17 |
| cucaraxo | hi | 04:17 |
| epicreviews | can I run Amarok in terminal, think that would help? | 04:17 |
| kisuke | try "sudo build-dep <insert amarok package name here> | 04:17 |
| kisuke | epicreviews: yes and then post the out put please | 04:17 |
| cucaraxo | help me of xampp in linux kubuntu system | 04:18 |
| epicreviews | ok lots of errors, lemme pastebin | 04:18 |
| kisuke | cucaraxo: what exact ly is the problem | 04:18 |
| kisuke | !amarok | 04:19 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok | 04:19 |
| kisuke | !fail | 04:19 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about fail | 04:19 |
| kisuke | sure | 04:19 |
| kisuke | !info amarok | 04:19 |
| ubottu | amarok (source: amarok): easy to use media player based on the KDE 4 technology platform. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.2.0-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 7080 kB, installed size 19152 kB | 04:19 |
| epicreviews | here ya go kisuke: http://epiccyndaquil.pastebin.ca/1669333 | 04:20 |
| epicreviews | line 62+ appeared after I started trying to play something | 04:21 |
| kisuke | what is xmlid? | 04:21 |
| epicreviews | no clue. | 04:21 |
| kisuke | !info xmlid | 04:21 |
| ubottu | Package xmlid does not exist in karmic | 04:21 |
| epicreviews | wonderful. | 04:21 |
| kisuke | !botfail | 04:21 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about botfail | 04:21 |
| kisuke | !botpackagesearchfail | 04:22 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 04:22 |
| kisuke | !die | 04:22 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about die | 04:22 |
| epicreviews | ANYWAY | 04:22 |
| kisuke | sorry bot=stress releif | 04:22 |
| kisuke | googleing now | 04:22 |
| epicreviews | same | 04:23 |
| epicreviews | XML doc stuff? | 04:23 |
| kisuke | looks like searching w/in amarok | 04:23 |
| epicreviews | so what do I do :P | 04:24 |
| kisuke | ? | 04:24 |
| epicreviews | how do I fix it | 04:24 |
| kisuke | charming | 04:25 |
| kisuke | http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/amarok/2009-July/008838.html | 04:25 |
| epicreviews | heh | 04:26 |
| kisuke | BTW you have any idea how i KILL the sparkles in KDE? | 04:26 |
| epicreviews | well I know I installed something in synaptics | 04:26 |
| epicreviews | I'm a gnome guy | 04:26 |
| kisuke | so am i gnome dont see my keyboard so kde it is | 04:27 |
| kisuke | quit rather | 04:27 |
| epicreviews | strange | 04:27 |
| kisuke | tell me about it | 04:27 |
| epicreviews | well I think it has something to do with decoding the files with KDE somehow | 04:27 |
| kisuke | works, goes to hibernate and i cant even unlock it | 04:28 |
| epicreviews | well I have to press power button to wake from hibernate/sleep | 04:28 |
| kisuke | that is my guess one min lest me look up xmlid in synaptic | 04:28 |
| epicreviews | already tried | 04:28 |
| epicreviews | nothign | 04:28 |
| kisuke | so do i hone it doesnes of times | 04:28 |
| kisuke | is ti your skin? | 04:29 |
| epicreviews | think I need to install kdebase-plasma? | 04:29 |
| kisuke | it* | 04:29 |
| epicreviews | shouldn't be, gives me an error about playback | 04:30 |
| kisuke | try it it might work do you have phonon installed? | 04:30 |
| epicreviews | I'll check that in a min | 04:30 |
| epicreviews | ok plasma seemed to make it look smoother, but still doesn't work >_< | 04:31 |
| epicreviews | got phonon | 04:31 |
| epicreviews | think I need python bindings for it? | 04:31 |
| epicreviews | or gstreamer backend? | 04:31 |
| epicreviews | I have xine backend installed | 04:32 |
| * epicreviews makes a note to self: WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING FROM NOW ON | 04:33 | |
| epicreviews | w00t I crashed Amarok | 04:34 |
| epicreviews | because of my own stupidity, had nothing to do with installed packages | 04:34 |
| kisuke | lulz | 04:36 |
| kisuke | gotta go good luck | 04:37 |
| ubuntu_ | hi everyone , I need help with grub2 ..., I resized a windows partition and now I get a grub error ... | 04:43 |
| ubuntu_ | there is a simple way to reconfigure grub2 automatically ? | 04:43 |
| bazhang | !grub2 | ubuntu_ | 04:44 |
| ubottu | ubuntu_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 04:44 |
| user__ | Pop quiz: Fstab doesn't mount a drive that Dolphin happily mounts in one click. Most likely candidate package for a bug report is...? | 04:45 |
| === user__ is now known as MrPenguins | ||
| ner0x | My time is really off, how can I set it appropriately? | 04:49 |
| MrPenguins | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775540 | 04:52 |
| MrPenguins | Seems goofy, and this may have changed since 2008 | 04:52 |
| MrPenguins | ner0x - are you sure the timezone is correctly set? That's the first thing to check and is easy to change | 04:56 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: It is, I've fixed the problem. :) | 04:56 |
| MrPenguins | Cool. Do share. | 04:57 |
| MrPenguins | Gah! Right there in System Settings! | 04:58 |
| MrPenguins | "Date and Time" | 04:58 |
| * MrPenguins rolls eyes | 04:58 | |
| ner0x | Yeah, I thought it would be harder. | 04:59 |
| MrPenguins | :) | 04:59 |
| ner0x | I guess they are really dumbing down GUIs now-a-days. | 04:59 |
| ner0x | Or at least the people using them. :) | 04:59 |
| MrPenguins | Soon we'll be Gn*me ;-) | 04:59 |
| MrPenguins | In my day you had to recompile the text editor to alter your config file to even *think* about changing the time! ;-) | 05:00 |
| ner0x | You're old? | 05:00 |
| MrPenguins | No, I'm full of ****. :) | 05:00 |
| ner0x | Often the same. hah | 05:01 |
| MrPenguins | lol | 05:01 |
| ner0x | I just got rid of my win box. | 05:01 |
| MrPenguins | \o/ | 05:02 |
| ner0x | I'm doing more and more development these days. Just easier this way. | 05:02 |
| MrPenguins | I'd call that a win! | 05:02 |
| ner0x | Well I've been using linux for years. | 05:02 |
| ner0x | Definitely my favorite. But now there's a need for it, which is nice. | 05:02 |
| MrPenguins | I kicked the MS habit around 2006 | 05:02 |
| MrPenguins | Never looked back | 05:03 |
| MrPenguins | Loads more fun people here :) | 05:03 |
| ner0x | Well yeah, unfortunately I needed it for school. | 05:04 |
| MrPenguins | *sigh* | 05:04 |
| MrPenguins | Or, your school needs a re-education. :) | 05:04 |
| ner0x | It was an 3d modeling major. | 05:04 |
| ner0x | And blender wasn't going to cut it. | 05:04 |
| MrPenguins | Heh. I did my masters in 3d | 05:05 |
| MrPenguins | Seriously though, what do you find seriously missing from Max / Maya? | 05:05 |
| MrPenguins | (ok Houdini has cool stuff going for it) | 05:05 |
| ner0x | Well, the fact my professors only accepted max files. | 05:05 |
| ner0x | Probably what it was missing. :) | 05:05 |
| MrPenguins | lol | 05:05 |
| MrPenguins | Theres a guy developing voxel modelling in Blender at the moment | 05:06 |
| MrPenguins | Same guy that added volumetrics | 05:06 |
| ner0x | I liked modeling. | 05:08 |
| * ner0x <3's programming though. | 05:09 | |
| MrPenguins | More of an animator myself. Mel script was pretty sweet tho | 05:09 |
| ner0x | Ew. | 05:09 |
| MrPenguins | lol | 05:10 |
| ner0x | I will disagree with you there. | 05:10 |
| ner0x | It's cool... unless you're programmed before. | 05:10 |
| MrPenguins | I just liked that you could just grab it and drag it to a gui element. Not much of a programmer myself. ;) | 05:10 |
| ner0x | Then it's like trying to kill a T-Rex with a butter knife. | 05:10 |
| MrPenguins | roflol | 05:10 |
| MrPenguins | I'd take 'im! | 05:10 |
| MrPenguins | The less programming I have to do the happier I am. | 05:11 |
| MrPenguins | I'm glad other people like it though. :) | 05:11 |
| ner0x | Yeah, it's a hobby that ends up being what you want to do with your life. | 05:18 |
| ner0x | Coincidentally I started a website design company. | 05:18 |
| ner0x | And I meet with my first client Thursday. | 05:18 |
| ner0x | So.... I have to go work on some concepts. | 05:18 |
| MrPenguins | lol. I didn't *want* to get into webdesign, but there's so much demand for it it's kind of hard to avoid... | 05:19 |
| MrPenguins | k have fun! | 05:19 |
| ner0x | I'l be around. Goodnight. | 05:19 |
| MrPenguins | later! | 05:19 |
| ner0x | Well, I guess I have a few questions for you. | 05:21 |
| ner0x | Since your in web design. | 05:21 |
| ner0x | I find myself having a very hard time picking the colors for a layout. | 05:22 |
| ner0x | I can lay out what I want, mark up, validate, css, javascript, etc. | 05:22 |
| MrPenguins | Well, are you using an app to help, like Agave, or modelling other sites designs? | 05:22 |
| ner0x | When it comes to making the colors go together. It just doesn't work. Any suggestions. | 05:22 |
| MrPenguins | Sometimes just browsing monster template can help | 05:22 |
| MrPenguins | Knowing colour theories pretty important, too. | 05:23 |
| ner0x | I know the complimentary, tetrad, etc. | 05:23 |
| MrPenguins | Checkout the package "Agave" though. That can show you how some of the most common colour patterns work | 05:24 |
| MrPenguins | Generally though it can help to get an idea of the feel you want to get across and just look up that word on somewhere like Deviant art | 05:24 |
| ner0x | rhttp://www.colorschemedesigner.com/ | 05:24 |
| ner0x | Is typically what I use to get a "scheme" together. | 05:25 |
| ner0x | I just never use it appropriately. | 05:25 |
| MrPenguins | Neat. Hadn't seen that one. | 05:25 |
| ner0x | That one is incredible. | 05:25 |
| ner0x | You'll be thanking me, especially if you do web design. | 05:26 |
| MrPenguins | You have to adjust colours too for perception. EG a larger area will look brighter and more saturated than a small one. | 05:26 |
| ner0x | I have a lot to learn. | 05:26 |
| MrPenguins | It *is* pretty cool, I have to say :) | 05:26 |
| MrPenguins | Don't we all. :) | 05:27 |
| ner0x | That and making banners. | 05:27 |
| MrPenguins | I wouldn't get too hung on numbers though. Find cool art that gets the feel youre looking for across and look at the colours they use | 05:27 |
| ner0x | Well, I'm not sure what to charge for this either. :-/ | 05:28 |
| ner0x | Any.. um.. Ideas what is fair? | 05:28 |
| MrPenguins | What exactly are yyou doing | 05:28 |
| MrPenguins | Template from scratch? | 05:28 |
| MrPenguins | Coding? | 05:28 |
| MrPenguins | Just installing pre-made stuff? | 05:28 |
| ner0x | Well, depends. I don't have any templates, so I'll be coding the website, designing, and setting it up on my own host. | 05:29 |
| MrPenguins | Coding from scratch, or using something like Joomla / Drupal? | 05:29 |
| ner0x | Catalyst | 05:29 |
| MrPenguins | I undercharged about thew firt 20 times | 05:30 |
| luis_ | Hello I have problems with bluetooth: The icon appears in gray and doesn't let me do nothing, My acer aspire bluetooth button does anything: Instead of turning bluetooth on, the volume bar appears, wtf? need help pls | 05:30 |
| MrPenguins | Mainly from "thinking" that I understood the client, and that they understood me | 05:30 |
| MrPenguins | Make sure that *every* detail is in writing. Even the obvious stuff. Especially what happens *when* it takes longer than anticipated and what happens if they add stuff | 05:31 |
| MrPenguins | (they always do) | 05:31 |
| White_Pelican | I need help with configuring kmail for kde 4. I am running karmic | 05:31 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: I'm typically going to ask a flat rate, then a rate to host. | 05:31 |
| ner0x | For exmaple $300 for the site, $50 a month to host. | 05:31 |
| MrPenguins | OK, if you're going flat make sure *everything* is in the written agreement | 05:32 |
| MrPenguins | Projects always get larger and you don't want to end up working for peanuts | 05:32 |
| MrPenguins | This happens *very* often! | 05:32 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: This is a site project really. | 05:32 |
| luis_ | Hello I have problems with bluetooth: the icon appears in gray and doesn't let me do nothing. My acer aspire 4520 bluetooth button does anything: Instead of turning bluetooth on, the volume bar appears, wtf? need help pls | 05:32 |
| MrPenguins | Every project grows when it starts./ Just make sure its defined. | 05:32 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: So you think and hourly charge should be applied for "extras" | 05:33 |
| MrPenguins | Trust me. I've ended up working for $1/hr because of this on a flat rate :( | 05:33 |
| MrPenguins | Definitely! | 05:33 |
| MrPenguins | You just need to have written *precisely* what is "in scope" | 05:33 |
| ner0x | Reasonable hourly rate is what? | 05:33 |
| White_Pelican | can some help or point me to the appropriate channel? | 05:33 |
| MrPenguins | standard is often $50-$60/hr | 05:33 |
| MrPenguins | If you'rew starting out a bit less | 05:34 |
| ner0x | White_Pelican: #kde might help | 05:34 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: I was going to go $25 | 05:34 |
| ner0x | Until my work starts being worth $50 | 05:34 |
| MrPenguins | Sure. It's your first job | 05:34 |
| MrPenguins | Thats reasonable | 05:34 |
| luis_ | Hello I have problems with bluetooth: the icon appears in gray and doesn't let me do nothing. My acer aspire 4520 bluetooth button does anything: Instead of turning bluetooth on, the volume bar appears, wtf? need help pls | 05:34 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: Fortunately, as well, my clients won't know anything about the internet or websites, for that matter. | 05:34 |
| MrPenguins | Just make sure the job is well defined. I can't say that enough... | 05:35 |
| MrPenguins | The non-technical clients always think everything is just "push a button to change everything" | 05:35 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: Not that I would attempt to screw over a client. But their expectations are *much* lower than say, your average company. | 05:35 |
| MrPenguins | ner0x: Sure. I work with people I trust, but it's not about that. It's about making sure everyone understands each other | 05:36 |
| MrPenguins | ner0x: Some of my best friends have been my worst customers | 05:36 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: Fortunately I work in construction. | 05:36 |
| ner0x | I know how to "clearly define" what is in my scope of work. :) | 05:36 |
| MrPenguins | Excellent. That's honestly the #1 thing of all :) | 05:37 |
| ner0x | I own www.kylondesign.com | 05:37 |
| ner0x | Notice how it's empty. | 05:37 |
| MrPenguins | lol! I just put up the new Krita site at krita.org | 05:37 |
| MrPenguins | Still needs some work... | 05:37 |
| MrPenguins | Is kylon anything to do with Battle Star Galactica? | 05:38 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: That's Cylon. :) | 05:38 |
| MrPenguins | I know. Just wondering if thats where the idea came from... | 05:39 |
| ner0x | No, no idea really. | 05:43 |
| ner0x | Eventually I'll just have premade templates and it'll be sort of "plug n play" | 05:44 |
| MrPenguins | Eventually? You can usually find and modify free ones quickly enough. | 05:45 |
| MrPenguins | Sometimes it is faster to build from scratch though. | 05:45 |
| ner0x | Where? | 05:45 |
| MrPenguins | I usually just Google it as it changes | 05:45 |
| MrPenguins | I'm a big fan of using as much pre-made as possible :) | 05:46 |
| MrPenguins | Krita.org is a modified free template I found | 05:46 |
| MrPenguins | "colourfall" from memory | 05:47 |
| ner0x | Really? It's awesome. Where did you get it from. | 05:47 |
| ner0x | I need to learn how to do that. | 05:47 |
| MrPenguins | There's also open source web design, but their templates are pretty meh | 05:47 |
| MrPenguins | Uh, dont remember. Some site I found on Google. There's hundreds. | 05:48 |
| MrPenguins | Even if you take a template from another piece of software and strip it. | 05:48 |
| ner0x | Open Source are kind of meh. | 05:50 |
| MrPenguins | Indeed. | 05:50 |
| ner0x | Is it theft if I use the layout and change all the content? | 05:51 |
| jlangston | What is the name of the linux based software to check on computer problems, cpu and stuff? It's a linux based boot cd you can download ? There are two of them and I dont' remember the names of either | 05:51 |
| MrPenguins | You can't really copyright a layout. | 05:51 |
| ner0x | jlangston: memtest86 for memory | 05:52 |
| MrPenguins | Just don't use their code | 05:52 |
| MrPenguins | Look at what they do and reverse engineer your own version | 05:52 |
| jlangston | In fact, you can not copyright a layout. See apple .vs. microsoft "lisa interface" | 05:52 |
| jlangston | It was established you can not copy right "look and feel" | 05:52 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: I wouldn't even, especially if it's a technology based site. Catalyst would have to do things differently. | 05:52 |
| MrPenguins | Amazon have tried. They've never really tried to enforce it though | 05:52 |
| ner0x | Alright, well I have a lot of work to do. | 05:53 |
| ner0x | Thanks for all of your help. | 05:53 |
| jlangston | ner0x that wasn't one of the ones I heard of | 05:53 |
| jlangston | it was like a linux boot cd with all kinds of utilities on it. somehere in here told me today when I was on other machine | 05:53 |
| MrPenguins | no problems and good luck. Just remember *defined* and *in writing!* | 05:53 |
| jlangston | one started with a g like grfx or something | 05:53 |
| jlangston | the other was soemthing long started with s I think, 2 words then small word | 05:53 |
| jlangston | google didn't help me much, too many hits | 05:54 |
| ner0x | MrPenguins: Thanks. | 05:55 |
| ner0x | Goodnight all. | 05:55 |
| MrPenguins | no problem | 05:55 |
| MrPenguins | night! | 05:55 |
| jlangston | anyone been on all day who wants to search back for "Serpardum"? :D | 06:00 |
| jlangston | that is who I was logged in as | 06:00 |
| luis_ | Hello I have problems with bluetooth: the icon appears in gray and doesn't let me do nothing. My acer aspire 4520 bluetooth button does anything: Instead of turning bluetooth on, the volume bar appears, wtf? need help pls | 06:07 |
| tweek | hey i have a question guys... is there any cmd prompt type deals where i can check all connneced computer to my network? | 06:14 |
| === kb is now known as Guest93721 | ||
| tweek | is anyone here? | 06:21 |
| jussi01 | no :D | 06:27 |
| luis_ | Hello I have problems with bluetooth: the icon appears in gray and doesn't let me do nothing. My acer aspire 4520 bluetooth button does anything: Instead of turning bluetooth on, the volume bar appears, wtf? need help pls | 06:27 |
| tweek | how can i net stat to see my vpn? | 06:31 |
| tweek | with kubuntu | 06:31 |
| === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor | ||
| luis_ | Hello I have problems with bluetooth: the icon appears in gray and doesn't let me do nothing. My acer aspire 4520 bluetooth button does anything: Instead of turning bluetooth on, the volume bar appears, wtf? need help pls | 06:47 |
| kluged | anyone want to solve my problem..? :) lol.. | 07:06 |
| kluged | I'll take that as a no... in that case, if i have one computer with ubuntu/samba running, and another with kubuntu, shouldn't i be able to access my files on the samba server? | 07:09 |
| jussi01 | kluged: yes. | 07:17 |
| jussi01 | kluged: open dolphin, then smb://addressofserver | 07:18 |
| jussi01 | theres also a samba browser, but Im not sure if it works as I never use it. | 07:18 |
| avihay | tweek: netstat was originally a unix program | 07:26 |
| kluged | Thanks Jussi! i attempted, it's not bringing anything up and says 'timeout on server' at the bottom | 07:29 |
| kluged | same thing happens when i go through the Network folder/link at left. i see the windows domain but nothing inside | 07:30 |
| kluged | (and it's working currently from a windows box) | 07:30 |
| === nurple is now known as Nurple | ||
| kluged | Hey, you rhyme with purple! | 07:37 |
| yang__ | What is the pulse audio server good for ? | 07:39 |
| yang__ | I just removed it, because of a browser sound issue | 07:39 |
| kluged | i've only heard of Alsa mixer | 07:40 |
| kluged | "PulseAudio (formerly Polypaudio) is a cross-platform, networked sound server commonly used on Linux operating systems. It is intended to be an improved drop-in replacement for the Enlightened Sound Daemon (ESD)." | 07:40 |
| kluged | <-wikipedia :P | 07:40 |
| yang__ | haha yeah i read ubuntu article about it | 07:43 |
| danny_is_on_irc | Question: (new to linux in general) I have a php script to create image gallery from a folder of folders of images. Problem is, whenever I paste a new folder (gallery) in, php can't create the thumbs directory inside. Error is cause of permissions I've found out. When I explicitly set permissions it works, so how can I either a: grant permissions to "www-data" (the 'owner' of thumbs) or make the parent directory's permi | 07:43 |
| yang__ | it would be nice to leave but its current config is causing no sound | 07:43 |
| yang__ | chown -R user directory | 07:44 |
| danny_is_on_irc | i was just reading about chown | 07:44 |
| danny_is_on_irc | Will that affect all the new folders I paste in too? | 07:44 |
| yang__ | affects directory and sub directories | 07:44 |
| yang__ | future and now | 07:44 |
| danny_is_on_irc | sweet. its future I'm concerned with. (Having to apply permissions manually would defeat purpose of non-SQL image gallery i'm trying to run) | 07:45 |
| kluged | i had sound issues back in ubuntu 7 on an older computer, had to twiddle with Alsa mixer a bunch. i think driver issues are beating down linux.. | 07:45 |
| yang__ | right haha . well you should be good | 07:45 |
| danny_is_on_irc | so I can just type: chown -R /etc/whatever/thisfolder right? | 07:45 |
| yang__ | yupp | 07:46 |
| danny_is_on_irc | thanks a bunch! | 07:46 |
| yang__ | chown -R /var/www www-data | 07:46 |
| yang__ | o lol backwards chown -R wwww /var/www | 07:47 |
| yang__ | but anyway kluged | 07:47 |
| yang__ | Pulse Audio nice to have but problems with config. Tried purging and reinstalling no effect. .. hmm .what do you think? | 07:48 |
| kluged | oh, i'm no expert. i keep running into issues like that...like installing new linux drivers for a comman video card, then having no video at all :P | 07:49 |
| kluged | i'd probably just leave it off though | 07:49 |
| yang__ | for now lol | 07:49 |
| yang__ | so i noticed support on IRC is lacking | 07:49 |
| kluged | my audio issue was fixed in a new version of ubuntu. | 07:49 |
| kluged | then it was broken again | 07:49 |
| kluged | then fixed... | 07:50 |
| yang__ | last time 2 times i have come with issues i have got get a ubuntu compat pc switch windows buy new printer | 07:50 |
| yang__ | ubuntu 9.10 fixed sound issue for me haha | 07:50 |
| kluged | :) it's so frustrating though | 07:51 |
| kluged | i was looking at netbooks and finding only Windoze pre-installed ones | 07:51 |
| yang__ | dell sells preinstalled ubuntu | 07:52 |
| kluged | finally found that Dell sells their mini 10v w/ ubuntu | 07:52 |
| yang__ | yeah haha | 07:52 |
| yang__ | but wish more support from community. i try when i can | 07:52 |
| kluged | really, i've got tons of legal ways to get full versions of windows. i don't want to pay again for a new oem license | 07:53 |
| kluged | ha, then fry's ignores me for a half-hour and finally tells me they don't sell without windows. then they sell me the wrong ram :( | 07:54 |
| yang__ | nice | 07:54 |
| yang__ | I like dells open source thing | 07:54 |
| yang__ | the reason they wont discount you is OEMS pay $50 a license | 07:55 |
| kluged | same here. they don't offer the same computer options with it | 07:55 |
| yang__ | you say no windows . they cant do more than $50 then they have overhead costs to get rid of license stickers + OS | 07:55 |
| kluged | yea, i've heard of ways to get out of the microsoft tax but what a pain in the arse | 07:55 |
| yang__ | yeh haha | 07:55 |
| yang__ | im done with windows tho. | 07:56 |
| kluged | that's why we need lobbyists | 07:56 |
| yang__ | Training for OSX , Windows 2008 and Linux though | 07:56 |
| danny_is_on_irc | yuck! I got a ton of "chown: changing ownership of *; operation not permitted" errors | 07:56 |
| kluged | nice. i have things i need on windows though | 07:56 |
| yang__ | sudo chown -R user /dir | 07:56 |
| kluged | Haiku is looking ok | 07:56 |
| yang__ | the sudo makes you root and allows you to have the athority to do that | 07:56 |
| danny_is_on_irc | will that remove my permissions btw? | 07:56 |
| yang__ | its like administrator mode | 07:57 |
| yang__ | no. | 07:57 |
| yang__ | -R stands for recursive | 07:57 |
| danny_is_on_irc | k. brb. Thanks again. | 07:57 |
| kluged | you're changing which user owns the directories | 07:57 |
| yang__ | i wish my problems were that simple plus help lol | 07:57 |
| yang__ | yeh i have been ubuntu for 2 years now | 07:57 |
| yang__ | no training and very basic trouble shooting ability haha | 07:58 |
| yang__ | but i have been tech support for ever | 07:58 |
| kluged | nice, that's probably the only way to get good at this.. | 07:59 |
| yang__ | haha . So dell ubuntu PC's are expensive | 07:59 |
| yang__ | i would rather build my own at that cost | 07:59 |
| yang__ | $1089 for 3GB ram and a 2 core 2 GHZ proc | 08:00 |
| kluged | yea, but netbooks can't really be built from scratch | 08:00 |
| Smurphy | yang__: I don't buy at dell. In germany there is a shop called alternate (Online), they are working together with computer magazines, and they built state of the art machines, with good cpomponents, and a low price. | 08:00 |
| yang__ | to bad im america haha | 08:00 |
| Smurphy | :) | 08:00 |
| yang__ | thats okay i like to build PC's haha | 08:01 |
| Smurphy | Netbooks ? Who needs a netbook ? I have an old 6310i Nokia phone, and an iPod touch ... that is my Netbook :D | 08:01 |
| yang__ | i hate netbook idea. to small | 08:01 |
| Smurphy | yang__: did that too for years - but they build it, test it, and it's even cheaper for me that way :) | 08:01 |
| yang__ | and i dont have money for a netbook + laptop haha | 08:01 |
| danny_is_on_irc | well... that command worked. But now I can't paste new folders in there. (is there a way to just make it public?) | 08:01 |
| yang__ | give your self permission | 08:01 |
| yang__ | add your self to the group | 08:02 |
| yang__ | or change the group to you | 08:02 |
| yang__ | chgrp -R username /folder | 08:02 |
| danny_is_on_irc | k. brb. | 08:03 |
| yang__ | chmod -R g+rwx | 08:03 |
| yang__ | chmod -R g+rwx /dir* | 08:03 |
| danny_is_on_irc | woa. are these separate steps | 08:03 |
| yang__ | yes | 08:03 |
| Smurphy | ok - work is calling. going to stealth mode ... | 08:03 |
| yang__ | haha | 08:03 |
| yang__ | o srry the last to wernt the chmod is only one srry | 08:04 |
| yang__ | he will be back lol | 08:05 |
| danny_is_on_irc | So i'll need to add user "www-data" and then add www-data to group? | 08:05 |
| yang__ | im killin myselfs lol i has work 2moro in 8 hours. need sleep | 08:05 |
| yang__ | there should already be www-data | 08:06 |
| yang__ | if you change the owner | 08:06 |
| yang__ | so if there is a group then you can add urself | 08:06 |
| yang__ | but i would just change the gruop on the files to your username if your the only to use it | 08:06 |
| danny_is_on_irc | I took back permissions. Is there a cmd line to add www-data to the group that I'm in? | 08:07 |
| yang__ | you mean add your self to the www group | 08:07 |
| yang__ | can you do me a favor. run ls -l dirname | 08:07 |
| yang__ | and can you paste the top part where is says dir rxrxrxw asdfajsd .... | 08:08 |
| danny_is_on_irc | yea. its on a dif. machiine but I'll type it. | 08:09 |
| yang__ | i dont need all of the output just online | 08:09 |
| danny_is_on_irc | drwxr-xrwx 3 danny danny <numbers> <date> <foldername> | 08:10 |
| yang__ | okay you should be able to edit that file | 08:10 |
| yang__ | can you run ls -l /dir-adove-dir | grep "dir" and past the output it should be like "wwww-data" in there along wit rwxrwx--- | 08:11 |
| Smurphy | danny_is_on_irc: That is a very bad ownership on your directory ... World has write access ... | 08:11 |
| yang__ | so if the directory was /var/www then ls -l /var/ | grep "www" | 08:12 |
| kluged | yang__: gonna reboot, may be back. have a good one! | 08:12 |
| yang__ | kluged: you 2 haha | 08:12 |
| danny_is_on_irc | thanks | 08:13 |
| yang__ | thanks? | 08:13 |
| danny_is_on_irc | yea. | 08:13 |
| yang__ | working or what/ | 08:14 |
| danny_is_on_irc | no not yet | 08:14 |
| yang__ | so did you get the permissions of that directory | 08:15 |
| danny_is_on_irc | saw that you had work soon. Feel free to bail. I should be reading documentation to learn a bit anyhoo | 08:15 |
| yang__ | o no haha | 08:15 |
| yang__ | gunna help you out first | 08:15 |
| danny_is_on_irc | actually everythings in my home dir | 08:15 |
| yang__ | so what user needs access to files? | 08:15 |
| yang__ | is security a concern? | 08:16 |
| danny_is_on_irc | danny/web_alias/shampoo/imagefolders | 08:16 |
| danny_is_on_irc | actually no | 08:16 |
| yang__ | you only? | 08:16 |
| danny_is_on_irc | I'm just trying to give PHP access | 08:16 |
| yang__ | php gets access though www-data? | 08:16 |
| danny_is_on_irc | mkdir() was failing and my Image gallery script wasn't working | 08:16 |
| yang__ | right because PHP doesn't have write access to the /imagefolders | 08:17 |
| danny_is_on_irc | well... it makes a thumbs folder if one isn't already there. And permissions says www-data on it | 08:17 |
| yang__ | okay. | 08:17 |
| danny_is_on_irc | everything works when i manually set permissions recursivly... but the point of this is to make creating a new gallery page as simple as dropping a folder in | 08:18 |
| yang__ | right | 08:18 |
| danny_is_on_irc | and new folders by default havn't had the permissions necesary | 08:18 |
| yang__ | so what we can do it add you and www-data as permisions | 08:18 |
| yang__ | you as group and www-data as owner | 08:18 |
| yang__ | then set permissions for both of you | 08:19 |
| danny_is_on_irc | do I have to add www-data as a group member of danny (my group)? | 08:19 |
| yang__ | no | 08:20 |
| yang__ | first to commands | 08:20 |
| yang__ | chown -R www-data ~/web_alias/shampoo/imagefolders | 08:20 |
| yang__ | chgrp -R danny ~/web_alias/shampoo/imagefolders | 08:20 |
| FloodBotK2 | yang__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 08:20 |
| danny_is_on_irc | i'll give that a shot | 08:21 |
| yang__ | chmod -R u+rwx ~/web_alias/shampoo/imagefolders | 08:21 |
| yang__ | chmod -R g+rwx ~/web_alias/shampoo/imagefolders | 08:21 |
| yang__ | what all of this does is sets the owner as www-data, and you as the group, and gives you both full permisions to use the folder | 08:22 |
| danny_is_on_irc | k. did all that. Let me test a copy & paste folder, and refresh the php page. brb | 08:24 |
| yang__ | moment of truth haha | 08:25 |
| danny_is_on_irc | aww...... error on php page load: mkdir() ... Permission denied | 08:26 |
| danny_is_on_irc | oh. Is it noteworthy that the I'm doing all the folder copy/pastes through Samba? | 08:27 |
| yang__ | do you want to run ls -l /dir-above-dir | grep "dirname" again so we can se permissions | 08:27 |
| yang__ | potentially haha | 08:27 |
| yang__ | first though are permissions correct for linux though haha | 08:28 |
| Creap | When I booted up KDE, I got some error regarding .ICEAuthority permissions. I had to start failsafe and remove it to be able to start KDE. | 08:30 |
| yang__ | Danny? | 08:30 |
| danny_is_on_irc | some are different than others | 08:30 |
| Creap | Is that known? Why does it happen? | 08:30 |
| yang__ | that line should have given you one line of output | 08:31 |
| danny_is_on_irc | here: drwxrwxrwx 3 www-data danny | 08:31 |
| yang__ | that looks more than rite | 08:31 |
| yang__ | infact any one at all can rite to that directory | 08:31 |
| danny_is_on_irc | i might have messed up. I took everything after | out | 08:31 |
| yang__ | ahhh | 08:31 |
| yang__ | thats why | 08:32 |
| yang__ | dosn't matter | 08:32 |
| danny_is_on_irc | oh i think i found it! | 08:32 |
| yang__ | everybody can rite to that directory | 08:32 |
| danny_is_on_irc | the file folder that I just pasted in is .... danny danny | 08:32 |
| yang__ | intresting that samba cannot | 08:32 |
| yang__ | did it show up there? | 08:32 |
| danny_is_on_irc | everything else in that directory is drw... www-data danny .... | 08:33 |
| yang__ | and the one you pasted is danny's | 08:33 |
| danny_is_on_irc | yea. | 08:33 |
| yang__ | right because you own the file . | 08:33 |
| yang__ | and php wont read it because you own it | 08:33 |
| danny_is_on_irc | line looks liek this: drwxr-xr-x 2 danny danny 4096 <date> <time> <foldername> | 08:34 |
| yang__ | right . the first danny is the owner | 08:34 |
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| yang__ | the second danny is the group | 08:34 |
| yang__ | what we want it to look like is www-data danny | 08:34 |
| yang__ | witch the 4 commands did | 08:35 |
| yang__ | but the problem is we have to run the Chown -R command | 08:35 |
| yang__ | we want to do this forever not one at a time | 08:35 |
| danny_is_on_irc | yea. that's just like setting the permissions manually like i was doing before. | 08:35 |
| danny_is_on_irc | Is there a public or "all-access" location in the filesystem that i can symlink to? | 08:36 |
| danny_is_on_irc | and use that instead? | 08:36 |
| yang__ | hmm. i dont think so | 08:36 |
| danny_is_on_irc | These image galleries are back-ups (resized/optimized for web/etc) anyway | 08:37 |
| yang__ | outside of you home directory you shouldn't have write access | 08:37 |
| danny_is_on_irc | Rats | 08:37 |
| === samael is now known as Guest48821 | ||
| yang__ | trying to think of what to do permissions problem | 08:38 |
| yang__ | umask maybe but thats horrrible security | 08:38 |
| broderic | hey everyone | 08:38 |
| broderic | :-D | 08:38 |
| broderic | can someone help | 08:39 |
| broderic | me with my sound system problem | 08:39 |
| kluged | yang__: well i didn't get my problem solved but i gotta sleep. i did get some kind of error message to look into though | 08:40 |
| szal | yang__: except for /tmp | 08:40 |
| yang__ | using /tmp for web server sounds like a bad idea | 08:41 |
| szal | I didn't say to use that | 08:41 |
| yang__ | cron job maybe that runs permissions change | 08:41 |
| yang__ | delays ... | 08:41 |
| yang__ | ACL? | 08:41 |
| yang__ | kluged: o do you have flash problem? | 08:41 |
| szal | how about sticky bit? I'm not that much into permissions that I knew what this does though.. | 08:41 |
| yang__ | kludged: ok cya | 08:41 |
| danny_is_on_irc | thanks again | 08:42 |
| yang__ | danny this sounds like what you need: | 08:43 |
| yang__ | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/applying-default-permissions-for-newly-created-files-within-a-specific-folder-605129/ | 08:43 |
| yang__ | it uses ACL's | 08:43 |
| yang__ | i have never set this up before , but i can at least point you the right direction | 08:43 |
| yang__ | any way less than 7 hours before work | 08:43 |
| yang__ | have fun i g2g | 08:43 |
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| jack2005 | ciao a tutti | 08:47 |
| jussi01 | !it | jack2005 | 08:48 |
| ubottu | jack2005: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) | 08:48 |
| jack2005 | ok tanks | 08:49 |
| seraphim_ | hi all | 08:52 |
| kavurt | seraphim: is something wrong? | 09:11 |
| === Kolia_ is now known as Bou | ||
| kaddi | hi,my system has been slowing down to a halt these last view days. It seems X is almost constantly using 40-70% of CPU and the remainder will be used by FF, Thunderbird or Amarok and konversation. I believe I have a rather new system (CPU 2.4GHz dualcore, 3Gb RAM) and I should be able to play videos without hanging, even if they are on youtube | 09:51 |
| kaddi | Can I continue using kde programs but switch only desktopmanager to improve things? use xfce or something? | 09:53 |
| ahox | kaddi, try to disable desktop effects | 10:02 |
| === vicente is now known as kurt78 | ||
| alokito | kwin effects are being so after I disable and re-enable it with alt+shift+f12 command | 10:08 |
| alokito | why is this happenning? | 10:08 |
| alokito | slow* | 10:08 |
| alokito | it's very smooth after startup, I have al geforce 9500 gt graphics | 10:09 |
| kaddi | ahox: I disabled desktop effects, there is some improvement, but it's still lingering about 30-50% of (each) CPU. It jumps up when I play a movie or do anything though | 10:10 |
| ahox | kaddi, what graphicsdriver do you use? | 10:11 |
| kaddi | What kind of machine would I need to be able to run KDE smoothely? The laptop is barely a year old | 10:11 |
| kaddi | intel drivers | 10:11 |
| alokito | hello? :-/ | 10:11 |
| ahox | can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? | 10:11 |
| kaddi | yes | 10:11 |
| ahox | kaddi, this sounds rather good to me. I have kde on some 3-5 year old machines | 10:11 |
| ahox | And our netbooks and travellaptops run on kde, too... | 10:12 |
| kaddi | http://pastebin.com/f469f54c6 | 10:12 |
| kaddi | I pastebined the entire log, I hope that's what you wanted | 10:12 |
| saintk | hiya, i am kinda new to Kubuntu desktop enviorment. I only have experiance in text. I just installed VNC trough the GUI package manager. Should i expect it now somewere in the "start" menu ? | 10:13 |
| kaddi | saintk: I would expect it to be in the start menu, but if it isn't you can add it yuorself, by editing the start menu editor | 10:14 |
| saintk | kaddi: in what section would you expect it to be? | 10:16 |
| kaddi | internet probably saintk | 10:17 |
| saintk | i think i found it, cheers! | 10:18 |
| kaddi | yw | 10:18 |
| ahox | kaddi, sry, I was AFK. Anyway, the GM965 is known to cause problems. | 10:19 |
| kaddi | so there's nothing I can do? | 10:19 |
| kaddi | is that a kde problem or a ubuntu problem? | 10:20 |
| ahox | that's a driver problem, so Xorg's. The bug has been put upstream | 10:20 |
| kaddi | I thought drivers were integrated into kernel recently (or I must have completely misunderstood some stuff... :p) | 10:20 |
| ahox | There may be a solution by now. I just remeber reading about it | 10:21 |
| kaddi | ah cool! | 10:21 |
| kaddi | that would be awesome | 10:21 |
| ahox | kaddi, partly they are. However, Xorg still does the 3D stuff and some more | 10:21 |
| ahox | sry, I remember reading about the problem, not the solution | 10:21 |
| kaddi | ok, good to know :) | 10:21 |
| kaddi | ah, lol... I was being to optimistic | 10:21 |
| ahox | So back to your original question. Using another windowmanager actually may help | 10:22 |
| kaddi | ah cool | 10:22 |
| ahox | Have you tried fluxbox? | 10:23 |
| kaddi | no, never heard of it | 10:23 |
| kaddi | so can I just download it and run it with a --replace or something and it'Ll start instead of kwin? | 10:25 |
| ahox | Or the xfce wm sounds good, too | 10:25 |
| ahox | kaddi, just type xfwm4 --replace | 10:27 |
| kaddi | ahox: I just downloaded fluxbox, gonna try that first. :) How do I stop kwin (and will it disconnect me from IRC?) | 10:30 |
| ahox | kaddi, you can kill kwin (kquitapp kwin) however be warned. Once you do this you do not have wm anymore, that is no more moving/selecting/minimizing etc windows anymore | 10:31 |
| ahox | so have konsole in front of you, close or at least minimize the other windows | 10:31 |
| ahox | then type in one line: kquitapp kwin; fluxbox | 10:32 |
| ahox | xfwm4 has the advantage that with the --replace switch you can replace another wm. kwin has the same | 10:32 |
| kaddi | k, thx. If someone thing goes wrong, you'll see me disconnect shortly ;) | 10:32 |
| saintk | does kubuntu have a default wirewall enabled or something? | 10:33 |
| iceroot | how to use firefox 3.x with kprinter-dialog? | 10:33 |
| ||arifaX | i received ubuntu 9.10 via shipit. none of the cds shows if 32 or 64 bit on the cd or the booklet. any ideas? can someone clarify that out? | 10:34 |
| szal | saintk: if you want a wirewall, use Windows :P their fw is more like a barb-wired fence ;) | 10:37 |
| BOZG | szal: Terrible joke :P | 10:38 |
| saintk | well i am more wondering because i cannot establish an outside connection | 10:38 |
| Tm_T | saintk: there's firewall but it's blocking nothing by default | 10:39 |
| saintk | ok thanks | 10:39 |
| saintk | and one more question, how do i switch to root if i wasnt asked during setup to enter a root pw? it only asked me to create a user account | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | !sudo | saintk | 10:39 |
| ubottu | saintk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE) | 10:39 |
| saintk | ah, so su root is no longer a permitted way to switch to root? | 10:40 |
| kaddi | don't ask what happened -.- | 10:41 |
| kaddi | I'm so stupid | 10:41 |
| szal | saintk: never was on *buntu | 10:41 |
| saintk | ah allright thanks | 10:41 |
| kaddi | fluxbox seems to lower CPU usage which is good. :) Still isn't really low though :/ | 10:41 |
| kaddi | I'll check out the options and try xfce next :) | 10:42 |
| szal | saintk: if you want a 'real' root account, there are ways to do that (attention: unsupported), or use another distro ;) | 10:42 |
| kaddi | ahox: If I wanted to return to kwin can I just kwin --replace or do I need sudo kwin --replace? It tells me that a windowmanager is already running and kwin wouldn't be started | 10:43 |
| saintk | szal: cheers | 10:44 |
| ahox | just kwin --replace . It's an user process | 10:44 |
| kaddi | it replies: KWIN: A windowmanager seems to be runninng, KWin won't be started | 10:44 |
| ahox | fluxbox may not honour the --replace. So just do an killall fluxbox; kwin; some caution applies as before | 10:45 |
| saintk | what i dont get here. i installed VNC and i can open a local connection from kubuntu itself, the service works fine. I just cannot remotely connect to it (machine is on the same LAN and has proper network access). Also a portscan on the device doesnt show 5900 as open | 10:45 |
| === ahmed is now known as Guest79667 | ||
| ahmedtaufiq | i cannot download the updates, can any one help me on this issue | 10:47 |
| ahmedtaufiq | ?? | 10:47 |
| kaddi | what happens when you try to download? | 10:48 |
| ahmedtaufiq | in the status bar, it say you have 43 bug fix updates | 10:49 |
| ahmedtaufiq | when i download it says, connection failled | 10:49 |
| ahmedtaufiq | however my internet connection is very good and fast | 10:49 |
| ahmedtaufiq | ?? | 10:50 |
| kaddi | have you tried using a different server maybe? where do you connect to? | 10:50 |
| ahmedtaufiq | i dont know how to do this | 10:50 |
| ahmedtaufiq | can u tell me ? | 10:51 |
| kaddi | start kpackagekit, click on options, select "edit softare sources" and in the dropdown menu select a different server, preferably one that is close to you | 10:51 |
| zeltak | hi guys! anyone knows where one could dl the All the oxygen set in svg form? | 10:54 |
| kaddi | ahox: I tested fluxbox, kwin and xfwm4 and they have essentially the same cpu usage (without desktop effects for kwin) | 10:54 |
| kaddi | still might switch to aonother one... I think I like xfwm :) | 10:55 |
| ahmedtaufiq | thnx alot kaddi | 10:56 |
| kaddi | ahmedtaufiq: is it working now :) | 10:56 |
| ahmedtaufiq | i have selected main server | 10:56 |
| ahox | kaddi, hava look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/419264 | 10:56 |
| ahox | maybe this helps, but otherwise I am out of ideas. | 10:56 |
| ||arifaX | I received ubuntu 9.10 via shipit. none of the cds shows if 32 or 64 bit on the cd or the booklet. any ideas? can someone clarify that out? | 11:03 |
| kaddi | ahox: stupid question: can I enable and use desktop effects with xfwm4? | 11:03 |
| ahox | I don't know xfwm. If so it should be in the xfwm4-settings | 11:04 |
| Tm_T | kaddi: no really | 11:04 |
| kaddi | ahox: I'm gonna check out the retro packages and see if that helps. :) | 11:06 |
| kaddi | Tm_T, ahox thanks, will check the xfwm settings then :) | 11:06 |
| Tm_T | kaddi: window managers containing "fancy effects" are basicly Kwin and Compiz | 11:09 |
| kaddi | ok, this is probably just me being stupid again, but... I went to this page: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-retro and followed the instructions for adding the rep. I added the deb-lines for the ppa to sources.list, I imported the key. I did an sudo apt-get update and it is not fetching the lists from that ppa. Where did I go wrong? | 11:16 |
| vistakiller | geia | 11:30 |
| luiz | 1 | 11:48 |
| caput | ,³,ün N 3ü | 11:52 |
| caput | can anyone reccomend an usb wireless dongle? bought the wrong one ... | 11:53 |
| jussi01 | caput: the huwei ones work well last time I checked. | 11:54 |
| caput | found a list in wiki but would like to know if anyone has experience | 11:54 |
| jussi01 | !hardware | 11:54 |
| ubottu | For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 11:54 |
| loca|host | hello all | 11:55 |
| caput | cool thx! | 11:55 |
| loca|host | i've plugged a datashow to my notebook | 11:55 |
| loca|host | and i cant switch the output to it | 11:55 |
| loca|host | using the fn+screenswitch key | 11:55 |
| loca|host | how can i activate the dual monitor mode ? | 11:57 |
| ghostcube | hi | 11:59 |
| ikonia | hello | 12:04 |
| crash2k | why am i getting artifacts with kwin enabled? | 12:11 |
| iceroot | is there a way to use firefox 3.x with the dialog of kprinter? | 12:50 |
| === oriol is now known as uniii | ||
| ederico | hello, I'm running Kubuntu 9.10, I update it as soon as updates are available and after my latest update and the required restart I'm experiencing problems when I bootup and get to the login screen. Basically, keyboard, touchpad and mouse are not responding. Can anyone help, please? Thanks. :) | 13:09 |
| === kb is now known as Guest73562 | ||
| sil3nt|warri0r | hi | 13:21 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | i just updated to 9.10 from 9.04 | 13:21 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | but now the sound is not working, i dont know how to chk for errors | 13:21 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | any help pzl | 13:21 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: Make sure you install the backport modules. | 13:23 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: through synaptic ? | 13:24 |
| Peace- | Hi | 13:24 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | i disable the pre-release updates in repositories | 13:25 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: how do i chk the sound ? | 13:26 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Peace-: hi | 13:27 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: yes, through synaptic. make sure for your running kernel. | 13:27 |
| Smurphy | once installed, you reboot your system. It's kernel modules which need to be loaded, so if you don't know how to do it manually, you do it with a reboot. | 13:28 |
| amik | is there some way to make Konversation highlight the tab or notify when my nick is mentioned, even when the tab is currently open? | 13:33 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: my running kernel is 2.6.31-14-generic | 13:36 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: do i also need to enable the pre-release updates in repo ? | 13:41 |
| iceroot | someone managed firefox 3.x working with kprinter-dialog? kprinter as print-command is not working | 13:56 |
| iceroot | amik: use the OSD from konversation, it will popup a message if you are highlighted, also you can use a command like kdialog which will executed if someone is highlighting your nick (no matter in what tab) | 13:57 |
| ederico | hello, I'm running Kubuntu 9.10, I update it as soon as updates are available and after my latest update and the required restart I'm experiencing problems when I bootup and get to the login screen. Basically, keyboard, touchpad and mouse are not responding. Can anyone help, please? Thanks. :) | 13:57 |
| zhao | How can i install a simple chinese input method? | 13:59 |
| zhao | I use the Firefox ,but i can't use the Simple chinese input method. | 14:01 |
| zhao | but i can use it in the other programs. | 14:03 |
| amik | iceroot: thanks. hope they integrate it with the new notification system soon :-) | 14:04 |
| infoitis | hello | 14:07 |
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| === complex is now known as sone | ||
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 14:21 |
| Smurphy | Yo mate ... | 14:22 |
| knap_ | hello all | 14:35 |
| knap_ | byeeee | 14:36 |
| legodude | hi everyone, a bunch of my plasma widgets aren't working, even simple ones like "notes," I get messages to the effect "could not find requested component: plasma_applet_notes" | 14:38 |
| legodude | this is on 9.10 with kde 4.3.3 | 14:38 |
| basilic | ehllo trou | 14:38 |
| basilic | hello tous | 14:38 |
| Mamarok | !fr | basilic | 14:39 |
| ubottu | basilic: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr | 14:39 |
| basilic | soory | 14:39 |
| basilic | sorry | 14:39 |
| basilic | Hello every body | 14:39 |
| basilic | I want to know your Ram usage | 14:39 |
| basilic | I think to take 2 more Go of Ram, but when I see the system occupation, I never go over 1go of my 2 | 14:40 |
| basilic | What's application use lot RAM? | 14:40 |
| xenthral | Hi, I was trying to upgrade from 9.04 but my internet connection crashed at some point and the process got stuck trying to download packages, I tried exiting it and restarting but now it says that some program is locking access to /lists/lock | 14:43 |
| xenthral | that is - /var/lib/apt/lists/lock | 14:43 |
| basilic | goodbye everybody | 14:44 |
| xenthral | on the website it says that the tool would abort and restart on its on - it never did | 14:44 |
| === szal_ is now known as szal | ||
| NeKit | xulrunner-1.9.1: Зависит: libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.3) но 3.12.2~rc1-0ubuntu2 будет установлен | 14:51 |
| NeKit | (Depends on... but .. will be installed) | 14:52 |
| xenthral_ | Hi, I was trying to upgrade from 9.04 but my internet connection crashed at some point and the process got stuck trying to download packages, I tried exiting it and restarting but now it says that some program is locking access to var/lib/apt/lists/lock | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | xenthral, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock | 14:53 |
| xenthral_ | BluesKaj: I was under the impression the process was still running, thanks | 14:55 |
| BluesKaj | xenthral_, there is another command that opens frozen package downloads/installs when using a package manager or apt : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock | 14:58 |
| xenthral_ | doesnt seem to have solved it though | 14:58 |
| xenthral_ | upgrade tool still barks at me it can't get an exclusive lock | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | run the other command i just posted above | 14:59 |
| xenthral_ | "unable to get exclusive lock" - "this usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) [is] already running. Please close that application first" | 15:00 |
| xenthral_ | except, there isn't one | 15:00 |
| BluesKaj | or close the update-manager | 15:00 |
| xenthral_ | it wasnt that one | 15:00 |
| xenthral_ | it was called 'karmic' | 15:00 |
| xenthral_ | thanks BluesKaj :) | 15:00 |
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| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: i installed the backports modules, but still no sound | 15:09 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | :( | 15:10 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | is there any specific backport kernel module i need to install | 15:10 |
| anton__ | is it worth reporting that upgrading 9.04->9.10 killed my kde? (had to remove .kde) | 15:18 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | anton__: is ur snd working after upgrading ? | 15:18 |
| anton__ | yeah, fine | 15:19 |
| anton__ | though I also had to fix the initramfs as it didnt have lvm in it after first reboot | 15:19 |
| anton__ | sil3nt|warri0r: puleaudio seems ok for me | 15:19 |
| BluesKaj | anton__, upgrading killed kde? Whay upgrade method did you use ? | 15:20 |
| BluesKaj | what | 15:20 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | anton__: my pulse nor alsa is working | 15:20 |
| anton__ | BluesKaj: the kde upgrader widget (update-notifier ?) | 15:20 |
| BluesKaj | update-manager ? | 15:21 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | though vlc,xmms,audacious, mplayer playing audio/video (i can see the seek bar moving perfectly). that mean the player is playing the file (audio/video) | 15:21 |
| anton__ | sil3nt|warri0r: I had problems on my laptop - it didnt boot the 2.6.31 kernel so alsa was stuffed - does uname -r show 2.6.31 | 15:21 |
| anton__ | BluesKaj: yes | 15:21 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | but for some bad reason the sound output is not working | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | anton__, try the command line : sudo do-release-upgrade | 15:22 |
| anton__ | sil3nt|warri0r: what if you try mplayer with "-ao alsa" or "-ao oss" | 15:22 |
| anton__ | BluesKaj: am already upgraded now - but had to reset all me kde settings to get any plasma working (no background, no panels etc) | 15:23 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: Nope. You sure that you have the correct sound devices active ? Mixer shows everything ? | 15:23 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: try out mixer, and see if it shows something. | 15:24 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: i am trying kmix, alsa mixer, aumix | 15:24 |
| anton__ | sil3nt|warri0r: I have also had problems where the pc speaker was trying to be used as the main sound device - kmixer showed pcspkr as the output device name | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | how do i create a custom bash script to compile stuff? like i want a single command to do : cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull .. | 15:24 |
| anton__ | shadeslayer: just save it in a file that has a first line of "#!/bin/bash" and make it executable (chmod +x MyFile) | 15:25 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: the kmixer only shows "hda intel" | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | anton__:and if i want to run it as a command? like : lspci or cmake,etc ? | 15:26 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: Show mixer -> Settings -> Configure channels and check what you have. | 15:26 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: yes - I know. had that issue o my T61p too ... | 15:26 |
| anton__ | shadeslayer: just type the path to the file | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | i want it work in the directory above it | 15:26 |
| anton__ | then you have to add your command into a dir in your PATH or edit $PATH | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | anton__: ugh,i want a single command to accomplish,i cant type the whole path | 15:26 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: it show all channels that avialable | 15:27 |
| anton__ | shadeslayer: if you have your own little utils it is common to put them in ~/bin/ and then add ~/bin/ to $PATH by adding the following to your ~/.bashrc "export PATH=~/bin/:$PATH" | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | anton__: and the file should be named : new_command.sh : ? | 15:28 |
| anton__ | shadeslayer: you can name it whatever you like | 15:28 |
| anton__ | editing the path above will make any executable file in ~/bin/ become available in all your shells | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | anton__: also one last thing,will it display the o/p as it shows with the actual command? | 15:28 |
| anton__ | (you will have to close the shell and open a new one) | 15:29 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: ok - choose those that are of interest to you, and disable all Digital outputs. | 15:29 |
| anton__ | o/p ? | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | or : source .bashrc | 15:29 |
| BluesKaj | anton__, sil3nt|warri0r , pulseaudio could be causing problems with your sound , especially if you dedicated pci soundcards ..i dumped pulseaudio, now the audio is clean as mp3 or digital audio of any sort can be. | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | anton__: like its showing the progress of a compile right now | 15:29 |
| anton__ | BluesKaj: pulse has been fine for me on my laptop and desktop, but some parts of upgrade to karmic needed kicking | 15:29 |
| anton__ | shadeslayer: it will just mean you dont need the full path to the command | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | anton__: thanks :D | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | pulse worked ok on jaunty , not as good on karmic , depending on the HW | 15:30 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: wat i do ? | 15:31 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | oh | 15:31 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: yes, the pre selected channels r there | 15:31 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: also - go to system-settings -> Multimedia -> device Preferences and check which device is active. | 15:31 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: so will i use alsa or wat ? | 15:32 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: k | 15:32 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: lso - check in the advanced tab - which backend-device you use. I use Xine. | 15:32 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: u use alsa by default anyway. | 15:32 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: xine is there only | 15:33 |
| anton__ | I have xine, and then gstreamer | 15:33 |
| anton__ | pretty sure my laptop is gstreamer | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | yes, sil3nt|warri0r , alsa is the audio layer you need | 15:34 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: ok - should be enough. | 15:34 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: system settings shows "hda intel (stac92xx analog)" | 15:34 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: yes - I know. had that issue o my T61p too ... u got ? | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | ok gotta go for a bit | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 15:34 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: wat pkgs i need to intsall/remove to enable alsa | 15:34 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: do i past the lspci audio putput ? | 15:35 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: make a: lsmod | grep snd | 15:35 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | k | 15:35 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: If you have loads of stuff showing up - that's it ;0 | 15:36 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: lots of stuffs do shows | 15:36 |
| anton__ | sil3nt|warri0r: I thought puls actually used alsa for hardware access, and then intercepted all requests for playing through it | 15:36 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: then you have the drivers loaded. | 15:36 |
| Smurphy | anton__: it actually does that. I disable pusle audio always - it slows down the system, and is intersting only if you want to have audio-mixing capability, or remote sound-devices to be used - e.g. remote Desktop and ave the audio played there. | 15:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) | 15:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Subsystem: Dell Device 0254 | 15:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 30 | 15:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Memory at f6dfc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] | 15:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Capabilities: <access denied> | 15:37 |
| FloodBotK2 | sil3nt|warri0r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 15:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel | 15:37 |
| anton__ | lol | 15:38 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | :( | 15:38 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | sorry frnds | 15:38 |
| * sil3nt|warri0r so frusteted here | 15:39 | |
| maco | sil3nt|warri0r: lspci -nv | grep -A1 0403 | 15:39 |
| maco | sil3nt|warri0r: the 2nd line tells you the actual hardware id | 15:39 |
| maco | sil3nt|warri0r: but thatd be more useful for on a bug report | 15:39 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | 0:1b.0 0403: 8086:284b (rev 03) | 15:40 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Subsystem: 1028:0254 | 15:40 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | @maco | 15:40 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: If the audio applications are running fine, means, the play mp3 etc., the the audio subsystem is loaded, just misconfigured. Eventually routed onto the wrong audio-interface. | 15:41 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: You have the PCM device (mixer) put on Max ? | 15:42 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: yes, i chked many times | 15:42 |
| Smurphy | what hardware you have ? | 15:43 |
| Smurphy | I mean the system ... | 15:43 |
| Smurphy | Oha - a Dell ... | 15:43 |
| Smurphy | They usually make no issues. Have you tried booting from a KUbuntu Live CD, and check out the audio-device ? | 15:43 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | dell studio 1535 | 15:44 |
| Smurphy | What you can also do, is create another user, to see if audio works for him :) | 15:44 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | on 9.04 it was working fine | 15:44 |
| Smurphy | in that case you know you screwed your config ... | 15:44 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | i just upgrade to 9.10, everything went fine, but after reboot snd is missing | 15:45 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | my desktop also has not changed, i mean the look n feel | 15:45 |
| maco | Smurphy: er...dell uses cheap hardware. its likely either a realtek or sigmatel codec. those are notoriously nasty HDA codecs | 15:46 |
| Smurphy | maco: Nope - intel chipset on that one. | 15:46 |
| maco | im talking about the codec, not the chipset | 15:47 |
| maco | Intel & Nvidia are common hardware manufacturers of HDA devices. i'm talking about the codec programmed into the hardware | 15:48 |
| Smurphy | maco: as far as I know - the codec has nothing to do with the chipset... | 15:48 |
| maco | but the codec has *plenty* to do with whether it works or not | 15:48 |
| Smurphy | what will the codec do here ? except decode some raw data and transform it into audible signals. usually done by the CPU anyway. | 15:49 |
| maco | the codec determines how the pins are routed | 15:49 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | i just chked the log, and i got "pulseaudio is configured for per-user session" | 15:49 |
| maco | im not talking about codec like "mp3" or "wav" but how the hardware is setup | 15:49 |
| Smurphy | the codec ? not that I knew TBH ... | 15:49 |
| maco | the term codec is used in both situations. im talking about the hardware | 15:50 |
| Smurphy | Hmmm Never heard the term codec in conjunction with the hardware ... | 15:50 |
| maco | anyway, try removing pulseaudio as its not well-tested with kubuntu, just ubuntu | 15:50 |
| maco | if that doesnt work, file a bug "ubuntu-bug alsa-base" then when you get into launchpad, change the package name to "linux" | 15:50 |
| Smurphy | I know that you can route audio-streams on different physical ports, or even influence if it's analog or digital. | 15:50 |
| Smurphy | I don't use pulseaudio here either. | 15:51 |
| Smurphy | :) | 15:51 |
| maco | Smurphy: yeah i didnt know codec had 2 meanings a couple years ago, but the audio dude for ubuntu was mentoring me on this stuff last year | 15:51 |
| maco | oh, i use pulseaudio | 15:51 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: so do i switch to alsa, will it work good for kde ? | 15:51 |
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| maco | its just that i know how | 15:51 |
| maco | sil3nt|warri0r: yep thats how kubuntu devs expect you to do it | 15:51 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: you have alsa running already ... ;) | 15:52 |
| Smurphy | just disable pulseaudio. | 15:52 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: how ? | 15:52 |
| maco | Smurphy: yes but direct through alsa, as opposed to indirectly via pulseaudio | 15:52 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: in the System Settings -> device preference -> Music - make sure HDA Intel (blabla0 is on top of the listing. | 15:53 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: i dont see any "device prefences" but only " multimedia" | 15:55 |
| Smurphy | Click Multimedia :) | 15:55 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | and there the hda intel at top | 15:56 |
| Smurphy | Click on the Intel Line, and on the right side/bottom, on Test. | 15:56 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | its says, "the hda intel audio system is not working, switching to the next blablabla" | 15:57 |
| Smurphy | That is bad. So - the drivers are not loaded correctly. | 15:58 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | :( | 15:58 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: I have my config under;l etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf | 15:59 |
| Smurphy | sil3nt|warri0r: but I have to admit - i did upgrade from KUbuntu 8.10 to KUbuntu 9.10 :) | 15:59 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | oh | 16:00 |
| Smurphy | as kubuntn 9.04 was so screwed ... | 16:00 |
| Smurphy | didn't work on my mac mini at all ... A real nightmare. | 16:00 |
| BluesKaj | pulseaudio is unecessary in a lot of cases , the kernel modules ,alsa-base and alsa-utils have enough tools to do most audio jobs ...pulseaudio is a fav of a dev who is pushing his own agenda ..PA maybe good for some exotic setups but for most situations it's not | 16:00 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | so how do i disable pulseaudio and enable alsa for my 9.10 :( | 16:02 |
| BluesKaj | make sure you have alsa-base and alsa-utils installed first of all | 16:03 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | its there | 16:03 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | installed | 16:03 |
| Smurphy | ok folks. Have to go ... | 16:03 |
| BluesKaj | then sudo apt-purge pulseaudio | 16:04 |
| Shaxor | Hay does banshee work for anyone in kubuntu 9.10? | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | Shaxor, ask in #ubuntu, most kde users don't have banshee | 16:04 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | Smurphy: thx frnd for ur help | 16:04 |
| Smurphy | np ;) | 16:04 |
| Shaxor | BluseKaj i think its a problem with kubuntu not banshee | 16:05 |
| Shaxor | becasue it works just fine in ubuntu but not in kubuntu | 16:05 |
| BluesKaj | Shaxor, I wouldn't know , I use vlc for everything | 16:06 |
| Shaxor | ah okay | 16:06 |
| BluesKaj | banshee is a gnome app and if you are missing some gtk-libs banshee may not work on kde | 16:07 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: is there anything i need to do after purge pulseaudio | 16:19 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | ??? | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | Hi,how do i find the best mirror server by command line? | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | for installing packages that is | 16:21 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: apt-purge is not there ? | 16:24 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | its not is my system | 16:24 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | is it apt-get -purge ?? | 16:24 |
| BluesKaj | sil3nt|warri0r, open system settings/multimedia/music and check the otput device test box for the HW listed there | 16:25 |
| BluesKaj | sil3nt|warri0r, yes | 16:25 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | its hda intel | 16:25 |
| BluesKaj | sorry about that i always use aptitude | 16:26 |
| BluesKaj | sil3nt|warri0r, output device , there's a test box there , click on it for sound test | 16:27 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | pulseaudio purging is in progress | 16:28 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | its done, do i need to restart ? | 16:29 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | i mean reboot ? | 16:29 |
| EvilRoey | why does canonical use pulseaudio, considering how I'm always reading of people removing it? | 16:29 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: clicking on the test button nothing happens | 16:30 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: no snd output nor any error msg shows | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | sil3nt|warri0r, type alsamixer in the terminal | 16:34 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | the needed cjannels are up. means full sound | 16:36 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: | 16:36 |
| BluesKaj | sil3nt|warri0r, make sure the ctrls are at 70% and the boxes don't have an M in them | 16:36 |
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| BluesKaj | use the arrow keys to move around and use the M key to unmute any ctrls | 16:36 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | its 100% and there is 00 instead of MM | 16:37 |
| BluesKaj | 100% is too high | 16:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | in master, headphone | 16:37 |
| BluesKaj | it's vol ctrl | 16:37 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | in pcm there is no option for muting it | 16:37 |
| BluesKaj | right | 16:38 |
| korvin | hi | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | korvin: hey | 16:38 |
| korvin | yjw can i seepartition table in karmic koala? | 16:38 |
| korvin | how* | 16:38 |
| BluesKaj | !intelhda | sil3nt|warri0r | 16:38 |
| ubottu | sil3nt|warri0r: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto | 16:38 |
| sil3nt|warri0r | BluesKaj: so how do i save eand exit ? | 16:39 |
| BluesKaj | sil3nt|warri0r, now you need to follow the above tutorial | 16:39 |
| BluesKaj | escape key | 16:39 |
| peter______ | is this a german room? | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | peter______: nope | 16:40 |
| korvin | i've got a problem with grub 1.97 beta) | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | !de | peter______ | 16:40 |
| ubottu | peter______: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. | 16:40 |
| reagleBRKLN | under karmic, i find runaway nspluginviewers eating up CPU quite a lot, even when no Konq is open anymore. Is this a bug, any recommendations? Running with 64bit Flash. | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: you beat me to it :) | 16:40 |
| Shaxor | Hay is there a hotkey command that i can use to suspend in kwin compositing , kinda like the alt+Shift+F12 that restarts it, but a command to turn it off as well? | 16:40 |
| korvin | so, how can i see a parition table in konsole? | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | korvin: sure just tell us the problem | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | Shaxor: same combo to turn it off | 16:41 |
| peter______ | thanks for help! | 16:41 |
| BluesKaj | korvin, df -h | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | korvin: sudo fdisk -l | 16:41 |
| Shaxor | Oh Thank you Shadeslayer <,< sorry for the noob question | 16:42 |
| korvin | thank you very much ) | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | Shaxor: hehe,no problem | 16:42 |
| BluesKaj | well, time for my daily walk .BBL | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: bye | 16:44 |
| Bios_ | Hey my external hdd stopped working suddenly... wont show up in dev directory ... and in windows i got only 'unkown device' | 16:45 |
| Bios_ | any suggestions? | 16:45 |
| klebezettel | hello | 16:46 |
| Flootenkerp | Hi, I have ubuntu 9.04 installed with wubi installer, and I only invested 8 gigs. How would I give it more space? | 16:46 |
| klebezettel | the shortcut for the quick access plasmoid doesn't seem to work...I can assign a shortcut, but nothing happens If I trigger it...any hint? | 16:46 |
| apparle | what should I use instead of hyperterminal (windows) | 16:48 |
| jussi01 | apparle: what is hyperterminal for? | 16:48 |
| apparle | jussi01: I want something to communicate over serial port (with a microcontroller) | 16:49 |
| jussi01 | !info minicom | apparle | 16:49 |
| ubottu | apparle: minicom (source: minicom): friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3-1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 175 kB, installed size 1164 kB | 16:49 |
| apparle | jussi01: anything kde based? | 16:49 |
| apparle | I mean KDE or QT based | 16:49 |
| Flootenkerp | Hi, I have ubuntu 9.04 installed with wubi installer, and I only invested 8 gigs. How would I give it more space? | 16:50 |
| jussi01 | apparle: thats CLI based. | 16:50 |
| jussi01 | how does hyperterminal work? | 16:50 |
| Pici | /22 | 16:50 |
| Pici | oh, a space.. how'd that get there? | 16:51 |
| Flootenkerp | I have ubuntu 9.04 installed with wubi installer, and I only invested 8 gigs. How would I give it more space? | 16:52 |
| clustermagnet | guys, F1 key isnt working on my apple keyboard :( | 16:54 |
| clustermagnet | kubuntu 9.1 | 16:54 |
| pmazur | try fn+f1 | 16:57 |
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| clustermagnet | pmazur: :) thank you :) | 17:01 |
| clustermagnet | bingo | 17:01 |
| apparle | jussi01: it shows whatever is received at the serial port and transmits whatever is typed without echoing it | 17:01 |
| clustermagnet | also, im having a nightmare with nvidia | 17:01 |
| clustermagnet | after running nvidia-settings... its not able to save to /etc/X11/config :( | 17:01 |
| clustermagnet | so i have to rerun it every time | 17:01 |
| apparle | clustermagnet: it is supposed to save it to xorg.conf | 17:02 |
| Bios_ | Hey my external hdd stopped working suddenly... wont show up in dev directory ... and in windows i got only 'unkown device' | 17:02 |
| clustermagnet | apparle: right, xorg.conf :) | 17:02 |
| pmazur | maybe you didnt run it with sudo? | 17:02 |
| jussi01 | apparle: minicom is like getting a terminal on the device over serial | 17:02 |
| apparle | clustermagnet: is nvidia GUI or CLI | 17:03 |
| clustermagnet | apparle: gui | 17:03 |
| apparle | jussi01: and can I adjust the baudrates etc | 17:03 |
| apparle | clustermagnet: try running it with kdesudo | 17:03 |
| clustermagnet | apparle: ok | 17:04 |
| clustermagnet | apparle: also... interesting thing | 17:04 |
| clustermagnet | before running nvidia-settings gui... transparency works :) | 17:04 |
| clustermagnet | as soon as i run it, and hit dual screen twinview... konsole disables transparency | 17:04 |
| clustermagnet | sigh | 17:05 |
| apparle | clustermagnet: maybe when you give superuser access to it, it will be able to write to xorg.conf | 17:05 |
| clustermagnet | apparle: im sure | 17:05 |
| jussi01 | apparle: think so, but install and run minicom -s and find out. | 17:07 |
| jussi01 | !info seyon | apparle - you could also look at this: | 17:07 |
| ubottu | apparle: seyon (source: seyon): Full-featured native X11 communications program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.20c-29 (karmic), package size 128 kB, installed size 372 kB | 17:07 |
| Pici | putty should also be able to talk to serial devices... although I haven't tested it on linux. | 17:08 |
| apparle | ok I'll give both of them a try | 17:09 |
| apparle | is there something like bray's terminal etc | 17:10 |
| twister | hi | 17:13 |
| jussi01 | apparle: I think that is seyon. | 17:13 |
| === twister_ is now known as twister | ||
| Messi | juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html | 17:26 |
| Bios_ | Hey my external hdd stopped working suddenly... wont show up in dev directory ... and in windows i got only 'unkown device' | 17:29 |
| ovidiu | hy all | 17:30 |
| BluesKaj | Bios_, does df -h show anything peripheral ? | 17:34 |
| Bios_ | nope BluesKaj | 17:34 |
| BluesKaj | pastebin the output | 17:36 |
| Bios_ | http://pastebin.com/dc8d34c6 BluesKaj | 17:46 |
| Bios_ | sorry for delay | 17:47 |
| Bios_ | was googling :P | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | Bios_, do you have any other usb devices that you can use to test the buss ? | 17:48 |
| Bios_ | mouse and anything else is working | 17:49 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, like a phone , maybe , just want to be sure your drive isn't kaput | 17:50 |
| Bios_ | well it works on a friend's pc | 17:52 |
| gioacchino | hey all | 17:54 |
| gioacchino | i am using kubuntu 9.10 on 64 bit | 17:54 |
| gioacchino | sometimes kontact don't start | 17:54 |
| gioacchino | if i look at process there is a kontact | 17:54 |
| gioacchino | if i kill it and restart kontact it work | 17:54 |
| gioacchino | there is a fix for this ? | 17:54 |
| FloodBotK2 | gioacchino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 17:54 |
| gioacchino | flood ??? | 17:54 |
| Bios_ | brb BluesKaj | 17:58 |
| Peace- | gioacchino: yu have to check launching it on therminal | 17:59 |
| Peace- | terminal | 17:59 |
| gioacchino | understand... | 17:59 |
| apparle | !info cutecom | 18:01 |
| ubottu | cutecom (source: cutecom): Graphical serial terminal, like minicom. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.22.0-1 (karmic), package size 51 kB, installed size 188 kB | 18:01 |
| === diego is now known as Guest96415 | ||
| JediMaster | what's the best way of making a kubuntu install usb stick? I've got kubuntu 9.10 installed already, but want to put the installer on a usb stick to install it on other machines | 18:10 |
| JediMaster | should I install usb-creator and download the kubuntu cd iso? | 18:10 |
| kavurt | JediMaster: usb-creator must be alredy installed on karmic by default | 18:13 |
| genii | !usb | 18:13 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 18:13 |
| kavurt | JediMaster: it should be under Kmenu/System | 18:14 |
| rmrfslash | So what are people using for an Office suite on Linux? If OpenOffice really the best option available? | 18:15 |
| rmrfslash | *IS | 18:15 |
| rmrfslash | cuz if u ask me, it stinks. | 18:15 |
| rmrfslash | :P | 18:15 |
| kavurt | rmrfslash: most people use openoffice I guess | 18:16 |
| Bios_ | latex only : P | 18:18 |
| rmrfslash | What about koffice? | 18:19 |
| rmrfslash | is it any good? I'm installing it now. | 18:19 |
| === diego is now known as Guest20800 | ||
| rmrfslash | no drawing toolbar in Kword. | 18:23 |
| rmrfslash | :-/ | 18:23 |
| === sandeep is now known as Guest61820 | ||
| === Guest61820 is now known as sandeep__ | ||
| === sandeep__ is now known as sandeep_ | ||
| === rendszer is now known as AtomGoa | ||
| === Quintasan1 is now known as Quintasan | ||
| mirko_ | tranformers | 19:06 |
| Mamarok | mirko_: do you have a support question? | 19:07 |
| Zxcvb | where are the kernel headers in karmic? | 19:21 |
| Mamarok | Zxcvb: aptitude search headers tells you that | 19:21 |
| Zxcvb | no, I mean where does it put them once installed? | 19:22 |
| Mamarok | Zxcvb: ah, ok, in /usr/src/ | 19:24 |
| davidjheinrich | I just got an Epson V700, which is supposed to have up to 6400 dpi scanning (optical)...but iscan (Image Scan!) and xsane only let me select up to 3200 dpi...what's up? | 19:25 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| Mamarok | davidjheinrich: I don't know, is it reported to be fully supported in Linux? | 19:26 |
| davidjheinrich | the sane-epson2 backend reports it as "known to work with this backend" | 19:27 |
| davidjheinrich | sane-epson2.5 | 19:27 |
| Mamarok | davidjheinrich: according to this website it only says good, not complete support, might be the problem: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-EPSON | 19:32 |
| davidjheinrich | ahhh | 19:32 |
| davidjheinrich | bummer | 19:33 |
| davidjheinrich | guess I have to buy Vuescan if I want 6400 dpi | 19:33 |
| davidjheinrich | (although there's barely any diff between 6400 & 3200 dpi in terms of real optical resolution...consumer flatbeds heinously over-state what they're capable of | 19:33 |
| Mamarok | sorry, check that list for other manufacturers also, might cost less elsewhere | 19:34 |
| Mamarok | Epson is not exactly well known for Linux support, unless HP | 19:34 |
| Mamarok | but for scanners it's always a bit a hassle | 19:34 |
| davidjheinrich | well, I already have an Epson | 19:35 |
| Mamarok | but 3200 dpi is not that bad | 19:36 |
| davidjheinrich | I scan 4x5 trannies, on the large format forum, ppl have basically said that for under $2k, Epson is the only scanner in town worth looking at | 19:36 |
| davidjheinrich | yea, it's still pretty good | 19:36 |
| davidjheinrich | re linux support, well, epson refers to "avasys" | 19:37 |
| davidjheinrich | I guess HP would be my next guess for linux scanners (good name, and I'd guess good support, as they have great printer-support...even some of their $10k printers are linux-supported)...but their high-end scanner competing with the Epson V700 isn't supported in linux | 19:40 |
| === Meh is now known as Mehanoid | ||
| davidjheinrich | Mamoarok, thanks for your help | 19:49 |
| === mirko_ is now known as mirko_help | ||
| luis_ | I was just asking myself if there was a way to connect amarok to the ps3, like windows media player can do, so i can share my music without having to pass it to the ps3, u know a way? | 19:56 |
| BluesKaj | luis_, is your ps3 connected to the internet | 20:00 |
| luis_ | of course | 20:00 |
| BluesKaj | then you should be able to see it as a device on your network | 20:00 |
| BluesKaj | luis_, can you access your router hostpage ? .. it should be listed there by device and IP address | 20:04 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| |moe| | g'evening. i accidentially deleted my trash in dolphin instead of emptying it. how can i get it back? | 20:22 |
| Mamarok | |moe|: you mean you deleted th Trash folder? | 20:24 |
| |moe| | Mamarok: no, i deleted the trash icon in "locations" of dolphin | 20:24 |
| === basti2 is now known as basti | ||
| derNeugierige | |moe|: right click on the left sidebar and add an item... | 20:25 |
| |moe| | derNeugierige: if i select the icon user-trash, does it "change shape" upon filling like the old one did? | 20:26 |
| derNeugierige | test it | 20:26 |
| derNeugierige | |moe|: it does | 20:28 |
| |moe| | maybe it's better to use the address trash:/ instead of the .local/share/Trash/files right? | 20:28 |
| Mamarok | |moe|: yes, that would be the logical one | 20:28 |
| |moe| | Mamarok, derNeugierige: thanks guys! | 20:29 |
| derNeugierige | |moe|: you're welcome | 20:30 |
| Mamarok | |moe|: you are welcome :) | 20:33 |
| amgarching | omg, look at the "Details" tab of the progress dialog in KPackageKit http://imagebin.ca/view/7eC9SR0O.html | 20:34 |
| |moe| | amgarching: awesome, same on my end. i use apt-get for updating since then | 20:36 |
| amgarching | just fun, I use aptitude to update things anyway. moe | 20:37 |
| |moe| | amgarching: funny thing indeed | 20:38 |
| anita | hi | 20:43 |
| anita | anyone here? | 20:44 |
| anita | i need help | 20:44 |
| === jacques is now known as Guest9874 | ||
| derNeugierige | anita: ask | 20:46 |
| anita | my computer crashed so i put ubuntu 9.10 on the computer with the intention never to go back to windows , but now i realize i cannot use my ipod touch with ubuntu ...and so i tried to put windows back in so i could use dual os, but it won't work??? | 20:46 |
| derNeugierige | anita: first install xp and then linux and your dual boot should work | 20:50 |
| anita | how can i get linux off the pc | 20:50 |
| === jussi01 is now known as jussi01_ | ||
| derNeugierige | format your hd | 20:51 |
| anita | i'm not sure how to do it with linux | 20:52 |
| derNeugierige | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=partedmagic | 20:53 |
| anita | i have a dell...is it with f12? | 20:53 |
| anita | oh ok | 20:53 |
| shicmap | hello, I just updated my Kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. And now I cannot connect to the internet. | 20:53 |
| Bauldrick | hi - i'm trying to configure a program to build, but it cant guess my build type... I know I can say like ./configure --build='bla-bla' - but what is my system missing? | 20:54 |
| shicmap | what should I do? It cannot detect my wireless internet. If I attach my wireless network adapter, it will keep on popping out a notification saying that the adapter is detected then segfault occurs and the whole system freeze | 20:55 |
| Bauldrick | is everyone in #ubuntu then? | 20:57 |
| mark_ | how do i setup a printer in kubuntu | 21:01 |
| mark_ | all the information im finding seems to be out of date | 21:01 |
| mark_ | its telling me to use the kde printing manager | 21:02 |
| mark_ | i don't have that on my system | 21:02 |
| mark_ | then it says use kde print | 21:02 |
| mark_ | i can't find that either | 21:02 |
| mark_ | theres no link in the menu to setup a printer | 21:02 |
| mark_ | theres printer configuration but that doesn't let me add a printer | 21:03 |
| mark_ | how do i do it? | 21:03 |
| Tscheesy | shicmap: hm - do you have a possibility to connect by LAN? | 21:03 |
| Bauldrick | mark_ try 127.0.0.1:631 | 21:03 |
| Bauldrick | in your browser | 21:03 |
| mark_ | it says the link cannot be opened | 21:04 |
| === andy is now known as Guest84029 | ||
| mark_ | now it works | 21:04 |
| mark_ | had to paste it into my browser | 21:04 |
| Guest84029 | help!! I had kubutnu intrepid on my laptop. never had space to upgrade. today i finally upgraded to jaunty, but now it's screwed | 21:04 |
| mark_ | whats the user name and password? | 21:04 |
| Guest84029 | I can login, but the screen only shows the wallpaper, the plasma desktop and the panel are not shown | 21:05 |
| Tm_T | mark_: typically your username and password | 21:05 |
| mark_ | nope | 21:05 |
| Guest84029 | on first login i saw at least the analog clock still, but I thought it was just a temporary problem, so I restareted again ,and now only blue wallpaper... | 21:05 |
| Guest84029 | what can i do? | 21:05 |
| Tm_T | weird | 21:05 |
| shicmap | Tscheesy: no, I use wireless network | 21:05 |
| Tm_T | mark_: I never configured mine, it just works, hmmmm | 21:06 |
| Guest84029 | alt+f2 'konsole' got me to konsole | 21:06 |
| mark_ | its the root user | 21:06 |
| mark_ | i remember doing this on my mac | 21:07 |
| Guest84029 | should i gtriy to upgrade to karmic and hope this will fix it again? or will it make it worse? | 21:07 |
| Tscheesy | shicmap: first - you should update your System, then by starting jockey-kde - you can look for a propretery driver (unlock the Repository in kpackagekit) -otherwise i suppose a bug | 21:08 |
| shicmap | Tscheesy: sorry, but how can I start jockey-kde. I cannot update my system if there is no connection, I guess.. | 21:09 |
| Tscheesy | therfore you should look for a LAN-connection i'd propose - sry | 21:10 |
| mark_ | it doesn't have my printer listed | 21:10 |
| shicmap | ok. thanks Tscheesy | 21:10 |
| mark_ | so can i just use an generic driver that it selected? | 21:10 |
| Tscheesy | yw | 21:10 |
| Bauldrick | shicmap: did your update finish, you may need to run `dpkg-reconfigure -a` or whatever it is | 21:10 |
| shicmap | Bauldrick: I think I did.. My system reported 11 seg faults | 21:11 |
| mark_ | its not working | 21:12 |
| ubuntu_ | hi | 21:13 |
| ubuntu_ | how can i delete a kubuntu partition? | 21:13 |
| ubuntu_ | i have 2 primaries on my drive | 21:13 |
| ubuntu_ | ????????? | 21:14 |
| === ubuntu_ is now known as Lycanow | ||
| derNeugierige | Lycanow: install partionmanager | 21:16 |
| Lycanow | derNeugierige: | 21:16 |
| Lycanow | it doesnt let me remove | 21:16 |
| Lycanow | the partition | 21:16 |
| derNeugierige | sorry partitionmanager | 21:17 |
| Lycanow | by the way my whole hdd is formated as ext4. i made some space to install winXP, do i have to do a slow format or is a quick format enough? (cause it changes to ntfs) | 21:19 |
| Tm_T | Lycanow: quick is enough, difference is only if file data is erased entirely or not I believe | 21:20 |
| === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 | ||
| Lycanow | Tm_T: OK | 21:20 |
| Lycanow | i ask this cause when i have usb stick and want to change filesystem i need to do slowformat | 21:21 |
| Lycanow | right? | 21:21 |
| Tm_T | only if you like to make sure there's no data left behind | 21:21 |
| Tm_T | though I'm not expert so I might get this all wrong | 21:22 |
| === sergio_ is now known as sirviente | ||
| === m4v_ is now known as m4v | ||
| hackspider | hi i installed crossover linux 8 and office 2007. when i try to start word or any other application from kickoff it doesn't start, but when i start it from a terminal by ./winword in cxoffice/bin directory it fires up without any problem | 21:24 |
| Turin | Hi! | 21:25 |
| Turin | Can someone explain me why system hangs out my screen when i play full-screen movie? Not immediately, after ~30 minutes . | 21:26 |
| Turin | Kubuntu Karmic | 21:26 |
| Turin | Dragon Player | 21:26 |
| Turin | Desktop computer | 21:27 |
| GiantTalkingCow | Screen Saver or sleep kicks in and ends up locking up your desktop? | 21:27 |
| Turin | GiantTalkingCow: It just switches off | 21:28 |
| Turin | GiantTalkingCow: I got that message from monitor "No Signal" | 21:28 |
| Turin | GiantTalkingCow: I just can't understand why it happens when program is working | 21:29 |
| GiantTalkingCow | That is bizarre. | 21:29 |
| GiantTalkingCow | Getting any sound from the speakers, still? | 21:29 |
| Lycanow | how | 21:30 |
| Lycanow | can i restore grub | 21:30 |
| Lycanow | > | 21:30 |
| Lycanow | i installed xp | 21:30 |
| FloodBotK2 | Lycanow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 21:30 |
| Turin | GiantTalkingCow: No. It power saver, I sure. | 21:30 |
| === shlainn_ is now known as shlainn | ||
| Turin | GiantTalkingCow: How to make this thing look for working stuff, before it switches screen out? | 21:31 |
| Turin | shlainn: OK, I didn't use mouse or something, but full-screen have to prevent shutting my screen down. | 21:32 |
| Turin | shlainn: In all my systems before Kubuntu Karmic it was | 21:32 |
| Lycanow | i have 2 ubuntu partitions and i use a livecd to delete the 1st of the 2. both are primaries, but only the first has the boot flag on it. what should i do? | 21:35 |
| === christian is now known as Guest9682 | ||
| Lycanow | what does it do | 21:47 |
| Lycanow | when i move my partition | 21:47 |
| Lycanow | in the disk | 21:47 |
| Lycanow | not change size | 21:47 |
| Lycanow | just move it | 21:47 |
| FloodBotK2 | Lycanow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 21:47 |
| Lycanow | with gparted or partitionmanager | 21:47 |
| Turin | Pretty dead chat, huh | 21:53 |
| rork | depends on your patience tbg | 21:54 |
| Peace-- | Turin: mm? | 21:54 |
| rork | *tbh | 21:54 |
| Turin | Peace--: OK, maybe I wrong, but versus Mint chat... | 21:55 |
| Peace-- | well here it's onlu kde stuff | 21:55 |
| Peace-- | inf you go on ubuntu channel | 21:55 |
| Peace-- | instead of kubuntu you can get more guys | 21:55 |
| Peace-- | here there are smarter of them xD | 21:55 |
| Turin | Peace--: Dragon and power manager in group, isn't it? | 21:56 |
| Peace-- | Turin: ? | 21:56 |
| Turin | Peace--: My questions were about Dragon player and power manager in Kubuntu Karmic. | 21:57 |
| Peace-- | ok | 21:57 |
| Peace-- | and what was the problem with that? | 21:57 |
| Turin | Peace--: My screen switches off when i look full-screen movie | 21:57 |
| Peace-- | ahh | 21:58 |
| Peace-- | that stuff | 21:58 |
| Turin | Peace--: In Dragon | 21:58 |
| Peace-- | well use vlc then | 21:58 |
| Peace-- | if you think it's only a dragon issue | 21:58 |
| Peace-- | i have not dragon here | 21:58 |
| Peace-- | i used vlc for everything | 21:58 |
| Turin | Peace--: Maybe you right, but i really want to understand this problem. I didn't saw this never before | 21:59 |
| Turin | Not in GNOME, not in Win... | 21:59 |
| Peace-- | mmm have you turned off , the screen saver ? | 21:59 |
| kaddi | hi, how can I join a jabber group with kopete? | 22:01 |
| === erqzor_ is now known as eXq | ||
| rork | Kaddi: Settings >> Add account >> Jabber | 22:05 |
| kaddi | lol, that crashes kopete | 22:06 |
| kaddi | quite impressively at that | 22:06 |
| kernco | Hi, I need help getting the display for this laptop switched to a projector. I'm running the 32-bit 9.10 Live CD, and the laptop has an Intel integrated graphics chip. When I press Fn+F5 to switch to the projector, nothing happens. | 22:09 |
| kernco | Output of xrandr: http://pastebin.com/m2f402e33 | 22:10 |
| Peace-- | kernco: mm | 22:10 |
| Peace-- | maybe you need to create a action | 22:11 |
| Peace-- | if your systen recognizer Fn and of course F5 you can create a combination | 22:11 |
| Peace-- | of button | 22:11 |
| Peace-- | go on system and settings | 22:12 |
| Peace-- | to do that | 22:12 |
| gigasoft | Your input can't be opened: | 22:12 |
| gigasoft | VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///media/cdrom0'. Check the log for details. any help | 22:12 |
| Zxcvb | if I am going to be using a kernel on both a Pentium M and an Core2 system, which processor family would it be best to select? | 22:16 |
| === jon is now known as Guest40734 | ||
| gigasoft | i have problem to play encrypted dvd with many's, i tryed all. any help? | 22:21 |
| kaddi | rork: I already have an account, I want to join a multi user chat | 22:22 |
| Peace-- | !dvd | gigasoft | 22:24 |
| ubottu | gigasoft: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 22:24 |
| gigasoft | hm | 22:24 |
| gigasoft | ok thank, you but i tried that | 22:25 |
| Peace-- | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras ? gigasoft | 22:26 |
| gigasoft | i done that :( | 22:26 |
| Peace-- | gigasoft: tried vlc? | 22:26 |
| gigasoft | yap :( | 22:26 |
| Peace-- | mmm | 22:26 |
| Peace-- | ultra mega strange vlc didn't work on dvd | 22:26 |
| jussi01 | installed the libdvdcss stuff from medibuntu? | 22:27 |
| gigasoft | aha | 22:27 |
| gigasoft | ... sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras | 22:27 |
| gigasoft | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 73 not upgraded. | 22:27 |
| jussi01 | !medibuntu | 22:27 |
| ubottu | medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org | 22:27 |
| jussi01 | be sure to check the licensing for your country. | 22:27 |
| gigasoft | ok thank anyway | 22:28 |
| kaddi_ | is there a fix for the freezes and slowness with intel graphics cards? I thought that was suppose to improve with karmic? | 22:34 |
| fourat | am discovering the kubuntu netbook edition | 22:38 |
| fourat | on the wiki, its said there's a lot of social widgets | 22:38 |
| fourat | i cant see anything like that | 22:38 |
| fourat | for example how to add a google calendar plasma widget ? | 22:39 |
| lovre | weee, kubuntu and windows7 integration in its highest: http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6748/snapshot2y.png | 22:40 |
| ign0ramus | hey all. | 22:47 |
| kaddi_ | hi | 22:48 |
| kaddi_ | ign0ramus didn't you sort out my intel problems in jaunty? | 22:48 |
| kaddi_ | do you know how to fix the same issues in karmic? | 22:48 |
| ign0ramus | yup, seems like forever ago! | 22:49 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: it's better than in jaunty, but i use the xorg-edgers ppa | 22:49 |
| kaddi_ | there's a xorg-edgers ppa for karmic as well? | 22:49 |
| kaddi_ | maybe I should try it | 22:49 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: yup, and the swat-x-updates ppa as well | 22:50 |
| kaddi_ | I tried to get that today, but wouldn't work... don't know what I was doing wrong | 22:50 |
| ign0ramus | http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/dists/karmic/ | 22:50 |
| ign0ramus | and http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/ | 22:51 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: I still get some choppiness on fullscreen high-res flash, but sometimes a restart of X fixes it. Still not sure why | 22:52 |
| * ign0ramus shrugs | 22:52 | |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: and I installed Karmic fresh, so I have no xorg.conf at all... not sure if it would even use it. I had specified the greedy heuristic for intel graphics, but apparently that is done by default now. | 22:53 |
| kaddi_ | I get 100% cpu usage on a 2.4 Ghz dualcore, when I start flipping windows or somethings just as demanding. It's infuriating | 22:53 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: try the PPAs | 22:53 |
| kaddi_ | I have no xorg.conf either | 22:53 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: if you don't like, just uninstall :) | 22:53 |
| kaddi_ | wll do | 22:53 |
| kaddi_ | jeah, I'm seriously looking at alternatives right now | 22:54 |
| kaddi_ | after 6 years of ubuntu | 22:54 |
| kaddi_ | but it's just getting worse and worse for me | 22:54 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: try here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/318209/ | 22:57 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: the PPAs and keys | 22:57 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: i must admit, i've been using win7 fairly frequently lately :( | 22:58 |
| kaddi_ | yes I'm considering going back to windows myself... and somehow it's frightening | 22:58 |
| kaddi_ | lol, I already have the keys :p | 22:59 |
| ign0ramus | i actually came in here to see if kde 4.3.3 now has a simple way to format SD cards... I know i can do "sudo mkdosfs..." but is there no right-click > format option? | 22:59 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi_: i commend the kde team for the hard work, and making kde4 usable, but little stuff that is simple and people are used to are still apparently missing :/ | 23:00 |
| BluesKaj | ign0ramus, mkisofs ..maybe ? | 23:01 |
| ign0ramus | hey BluesKaj :) | 23:01 |
| BluesKaj | hi ign0ramus :) | 23:01 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: yeah, but to explain to a co-worker who's new to Linux, is there no gui method where i can just tell them to right click and select 'format' like he's done in windows for nearly a decade? | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | seconded | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | This should be a paperKut! | 23:02 |
| BluesKaj | ign0ramus, have you tried gparted ? | 23:02 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: i can issue the mount command and find where the card is mounted and use the "mkdosfs" command, but for a newbie, that's a big turn-off | 23:02 |
| fourat_ | hello all | 23:03 |
| fourat_ | i'm trying the notebook kubuntu edition | 23:03 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: actually, i haven't thought of that. seems like overkill to format an sd card, but that may work :) | 23:03 |
| fourat_ | prtty amazing :) | 23:03 |
| ign0ramus | fourat_: netbook? | 23:03 |
| fourat_ | note one ;) | 23:04 |
| BluesKaj | ign0ramus, well, if he wants to remain a newbie , I suppose so , but if he wants to learn linux then , no pain no gain :) | 23:04 |
| Quintasan | fourat_: I'd like to let you know that is marked as a Technical Preview, don't expect everything to work flawlessly | 23:04 |
| Quintasan | :P | 23:04 |
| Quintasan | it is* | 23:04 |
| fourat_ | yes i knew that | 23:04 |
| fourat_ | i took the adventure anyway:) | 23:04 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: i agree, but i switch people to (k)ubuntu because it's 'user-friendly' | 23:04 |
| * ign0ramus goes to check the notebook edition | 23:05 | |
| fourat_ | and it is working and charming though | 23:05 |
| ign0ramus | fourat_: link plz? | 23:05 |
| fourat_ | anyway.. i need some help with the widget stuff on the desktop | 23:05 |
| BluesKaj | it ain't windows user-freindly , not yet at least ...it can be but most will eventually encounter the need for the cli . | 23:05 |
| fourat_ | ign0ramus: google kubuntu notebook | 23:06 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: I absolutely love cli, but newbies get scared O_o | 23:06 |
| Quintasan | ign0ramus: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook | 23:06 |
| fourat_ | when i add a new widget, its being added in the bottom of the desktop, i need to personalize the position ... | 23:06 |
| ign0ramus | Quintasan: lol. I asked him if he meant 'netbook'. He said no. | 23:07 |
| kaddi_ | brb | 23:07 |
| BluesKaj | expalin how simple the cli is vs windows downloads and installs and the safety factor | 23:07 |
| fourat_ | i cant get to it | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | AFAIK no such thing as notebook edition | 23:07 |
| ign0ramus | Quintasan: that's why i asked ;) | 23:07 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: i agree, but you know old habits die hard, and when I keep them on a dual-boot, they end up just going back to windows because its more comfortable | 23:08 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: but then I get to make a few bucks cleaning their computer in a few months :) | 23:08 |
| fourat_ | anyone about the widgets? | 23:08 |
| ign0ramus | fourat_: i haven't used the NETBOOK remix, but can't you drag widgets to where you want them? | 23:09 |
| BluesKaj | yeah ign0ramus , I still dual boot because my friends all use windows and expect me to help when they run into trouble , so keep windows to find solutions | 23:09 |
| fourat_ | let me check it to confirm | 23:09 |
| ign0ramus | BluesKaj: I still need it for my POS lexmark printer, and Rosetta Stone, but nothing more. Although I got Win7, and I'm liking the Media Center. A lot. | 23:10 |
| BluesKaj | Win7 is ok , but it's just XP in Vista clothing :) | 23:11 |
| kaddi | how can i get the ctrl-alt-del to restart X? | 23:11 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: in System Settings now. | 23:11 |
| kaddi | ah, just change the dontzap option, that didn't help at all | 23:11 |
| BluesKaj | kaddi, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start | 23:12 |
| kaddi | :p | 23:12 |
| Quintasan | omfg | 23:12 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: there's also the alt+sysrq+k option | 23:12 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: but i'm still stuck on ctrl+alt+bckspce | 23:12 |
| fourat_ | ign0ramus: i've added the activity bar widget, it's now a big switcher between (applications and newspaper) and is placed right in the middle of my desktop, i cant move it, i can only remove it | 23:12 |
| BluesKaj | kaddi, or drop to a tty ans startx | 23:13 |
| ign0ramus | fourat_: have you unlocked widgets? | 23:13 |
| BluesKaj | and | 23:13 |
| kaddi | kk, gonna restart again, added the uxa to xorg.conf, updating the inteldrivers didn't change a thing saddl | 23:13 |
| kaddi | y | 23:13 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Standard Keyboard shortcuts | 23:13 |
| fourat_ | ign0ramus: how ? (am pretty new to kubuntu, being on ubuntu for some years ago ...) | 23:13 |
| BluesKaj | ok genys , take care , ...jam night tonight ..gonna play some tunes | 23:14 |
| ign0ramus | fourat_: again, i haven't used the netbook version, but in regular kde, you can right-click the desktop, and select "Unlock Widgets" | 23:14 |
| ign0ramus | fourat_: then you can drag them, resize them, etc | 23:14 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: i think uxa is also enabled by default in karmic. (don't quote me on that, though!) | 23:15 |
| kaddi | no luck here | 23:16 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: you tried updating with both PPAs? | 23:16 |
| kaddi | tried exa and uxa with the new driver, both cores are stuck at 80% with /usr/bin/X taking up a proude 80% | 23:16 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: ouch! | 23:16 |
| kaddi | and plasma-desktop is up thre too | 23:17 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: i have similar... laptop is now actually shutting off during fullscreen flash (overheating) | 23:17 |
| kaddi | lol, plus the notifications stopped vanishing again :p... that's definitely a regression | 23:17 |
| kaddi | not good :/ | 23:17 |
| * kaddi knocking on wood | 23:17 | |
| kaddi | the total freezes have actually become less frequent | 23:17 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: and *still* can't turn off the preview option in the Folder View widget! | 23:17 |
| kaddi | probably because I disabled desktop effects though, not because kernel/drivers improved | 23:18 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: i have a 1.5ghz C2D, i never even bother with kwin's effects | 23:18 |
| kaddi | hehe | 23:18 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: they do look nice, but bring my system to a grind after a while | 23:19 |
| kaddi | yeah, I kinda bought that machine 8 month ago with the thought that I would take something expensive, that it could last a couple of years and now I can't even run current OS on it :( | 23:19 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: that's not progress! | 23:19 |
| kaddi | you know if there is a ppa for the latest kernel as well just as with jaunty? | 23:19 |
| ign0ramus | ign0ramus: i bet it would run Hardy just fine | 23:19 |
| kaddi | vista runs quite nicely on it though, a lot better than ubuntu to be honest | 23:20 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: i know... win7 runs quickly, quietly, and cooler than Karmic, but I'm not jumping ship! | 23:20 |
| kaddi | but then again, they probably bought the drivers for the intel card... | 23:21 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: before in the tutorial, there wasn't a PPA involved for the kernel updates; we were just wget'ing the packages and installing them with dpkg | 23:21 |
| kaddi | I can't really switch, I'm a command line person and that's just a pain on windows | 23:21 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 23:21 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: me too | 23:21 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: make sure to keep at least 1 stable kernel, as a lot of the RC's break stuff like wireless and sound (believe me, i know) | 23:22 |
| kaddi | maybe I'll try to learn powershell, apparently that's supposed to be better | 23:22 |
| kaddi | hehe | 23:22 |
| kaddi | karmic is running on 2.6.31? | 23:23 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: "uname -a" = Linux lappy 2.6.31-15-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 10 14:54:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux | 23:23 |
| kaddi | how odd.. I'm still running 2.6.31-14 and I just did a dist-upgrade and rebooted | 23:24 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/318223/ | 23:25 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: oh, did you get the backports? | 23:25 |
| kaddi | ahh.. kk, I only have the traditional pacages | 23:25 |
| kaddi | no | 23:25 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: do you have this --> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.3 | 23:26 |
| === genii__ is now known as genii | ||
| * ign0ramus hands genii his coffee | 23:26 | |
| kaddi | no | 23:27 |
| genii | ign0ramus: Thanks muchly | 23:27 |
| ign0ramus | genii: np. it's been a while. | 23:27 |
| kaddi | on a totally different note: what happened to nopaste.com, I always liked them and they've given a 404 for a couple of weeks now :( | 23:28 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: bandwidth issues | 23:28 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: same thing that happened to bash.org | 23:28 |
| kaddi | they're gone for good or will they be back | 23:28 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: luckily, people donated time and money. i'd image the fate of raf would be the same... | 23:28 |
| kaddi | :/ | 23:29 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: yeah, that was my favorite, too. could even access it from tty (pasting and reading) | 23:29 |
| kaddi | I found the pastebinit command lately, that's pretty cool to. (not sure what it was using back then) but now it's using pastein.com | 23:30 |
| kaddi | too | 23:30 |
| kaddi | just type pastebinit /var/log/X.0.org and it'll return the link it was uploaded to | 23:30 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: nice. that's what i use too :) | 23:31 |
| kaddi | dang, I never have something new to tell you :p | 23:31 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: 1) not true & 2) i spend *way* too much time on the computer ;) | 23:32 |
| kaddi | I'm going to mess with the kernels another day, I'm not in the mood of rebooting today :p | 23:32 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: in all honesty, I don't think you'll notice that much of a difference, as far as graphics are concerned. :/ | 23:32 |
| kaddi | yeah I'm gonna check if disabling KMS helps | 23:33 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: that's something i haven't tried (!)... let me know if it works out | 23:33 |
| kaddi | I've had issue with that before (absolutely no output to the screen) | 23:33 |
| kaddi | disabling it brought it right back :D | 23:33 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: do you have the GM965? | 23:35 |
| kaddi | yeah, I think so | 23:36 |
| kaddi | but that's not the PC where I had no output with KSM enabled | 23:36 |
| kaddi | KMS | 23:37 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: i'm checking out the modesetting for KMS, and its using the i915 module... | 23:37 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: *in the tutorial | 23:37 |
| kaddi | modeset=0 disables it iirc | 23:37 |
| kaddi | that would have been my approach :p | 23:37 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: where are you putting that line? | 23:38 |
| kaddi | grub menu editor behind the line to start the kernel | 23:38 |
| kaddi | as a switch of the kernel to start, somewhat | 23:38 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: does that work in grub2? | 23:38 |
| kaddi | uh don't know | 23:38 |
| kaddi | I still have the old one | 23:38 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: ahh... yeah, grub2 is definitely... different | 23:39 |
| ign0ramus | not sure if i like it yet | 23:39 |
| genii | !grub2 | 23:39 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 23:39 |
| kaddi | lol, yeah I heard that much | 23:39 |
| ign0ramus | no grub.conf any more. different config file, but the syntax is not how it used to be | 23:39 |
| genii | You have to edit the /etc/default/grub file now and no longer menu.lst , etc etc | 23:39 |
| ign0ramus | genii: yes. that. | 23:40 |
| kaddi | lol, killing of plasma, when you're not running kwin as windowmanager isn't a good idea apparently :p | 23:45 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: haha | 23:45 |
| kaddi | alt-f2 still works though :) | 23:45 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: <3 krunner | 23:45 |
| kaddi | I had to find out the other day the killing explorer in Windows, also robs you of the windows-hotkeys.. which would have been nice to relaunch explorer at that point :p | 23:46 |
| kaddi | (ctrl-alt-del still worked though :)) | 23:46 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: there's a run command from ctrl+alt+del ;) | 23:46 |
| kaddi | I know, that's why I mentioned it ;) | 23:47 |
| ign0ramus | kaddi: gotcha :) also, explorer respawns after a minute or so (or at least should) | 23:48 |
| ign0ramus | ok, gotta run. i always come in for a quick question, and end up staying way too long | 23:49 |
| ign0ramus | good night guys. i'll have one for #kubuntu tonight | 23:49 |
| RenatoSilva | does anyone have had problems with bridge network mode when Kubuntu is virtualized with VirtualBox? | 23:50 |
| RenatoSilva | I just can't enable it, nic config just doesn't work, not even manual config | 23:51 |
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