| spO` | hi | 01:07 |
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| spO` | there is a default mplayer and there is a PPA lunchpad package mplayer that includes coreavc.... How do i install the last one instead of the default one? | 01:07 |
| spm | spO`: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware | 01:16 |
| spO` | thank you | 01:17 |
| spm | I think there are actually easier ways than that these days... but that will work | 01:17 |
| spO` | i put the urls in my apt.source or whatever, but it still downloads the default mplayer rather than the specific one from launchpad i think | 01:19 |
| thumper | spm: are you talking about 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:goodness' ? | 01:19 |
| spm | thumper: that's it | 01:19 |
| spm | spO`: I'd assume the default one is a newer package number and hence overrides; you'd need to explictly force the ppa version | 01:20 |
| spO` | how do you do that? | 01:20 |
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| tonyyarusso | Does Rosetta have any understanding of dialects yet, or do you still have to do them as separate languages? | 04:29 |
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| geser | bigjools: see http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35534897/upload_1341675_log.txt "Failed to upload" again without an error message | 09:47 |
| geser | how could it happen on wednesday when you fixed it on monday? | 09:47 |
| bigjools | geser: I suspect the cowboyed change got removed, or the fix that was rolled out didn't work | 09:54 |
| bigjools | gah | 09:54 |
| bigjools | geser: have you got a build page URL for that please? | 09:58 |
| bigjools | I see other successful builds so if there's a problem it's a different one | 09:59 |
| wgrant | There were successful builds last time too, weren't there? | 10:00 |
| wgrant | It has always looked like an occasional race. | 10:00 |
| geser | bigjools: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/turbogears/1.1-1/+build/1341675 | 10:08 |
| geser | I've checked if there are other "Failed to upload" similar to that one but it's the only one | 10:08 |
| bigjools | :/ | 10:09 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Do we know which store is being used to re-get the build? | 10:09 |
| bigjools | geser: it's 2 days ago, I suspect it might be when the change was rolled out and there was a brief window w/o the cowboyed change in | 10:09 |
| bigjools | wgrant: I don't | 10:10 |
| bigjools | geser: I am going to retry it, ok? | 10:10 |
| geser | sure | 10:10 |
| geser | I didn't want to retry and lose any data you might need to debug this | 10:11 |
| bigjools | geser: thanks, appreciate that | 10:11 |
| bigjools | it was repeatable last time, so if it fails again we still have the problem | 10:11 |
| geser | bigjools: worked this time, so probably just a bad timing | 10:14 |
| bigjools | geser: great | 10:15 |
| bigjools | yes, it would have coincided with the rollout | 10:16 |
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| apw | intellectronica, about? wanted to ask about the nominations thing we talked about about 2 weeks back | 11:21 |
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| intellectronica | apw: i'm sprinting, so can't really chat much, but if you're around in ~4h, when it's lunch time here in dallas, maybe then? | 15:05 |
| apw | intellectronica, i'll be in the pub by then. i guess i'll come find you in person next week | 15:06 |
| intellectronica | apw: cool. i'm in UDS next week, but should have plenty of free slots for chatting | 15:07 |
| apw | intellectronica, heh as am i | 15:07 |
| intellectronica | apw: awesome, we can do it in person then, maybe even find some time for pair hacking :) | 15:08 |
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| kklimonda | hey - why is lp:transmission only importing trunk serie from svn? | 16:13 |
| exarkun | How do I mass-update all the "Fix Committed" bugs targetted at the milestone I just did a release for? | 16:36 |
| bigjools | it's easy if you use the API | 16:38 |
| exarkun | :( | 16:40 |
| exarkun | And impossible if I, a user, want to use the user interface? | 16:40 |
| exarkun | Perhaps someone already wrote and released a tool that uses the API which presents a UI. | 16:41 |
| exarkun | Hm, I'm not having much luck with google finding such a tool, though. | 16:43 |
| LarstiQ | exarkun: bzr.dev/tools/check-newsbugs.py is not exactly that, but maybe helpful? | 16:44 |
| exarkun | Hm, I dunno how to resolve "bzr.dev" | 16:50 |
| bdmurray | rocketfuel-setup keeps failing to make a bzr branch of the devel code for me | 16:51 |
| exarkun | Okay, I guess it's bzr, since I see there's a tools/check-newbugs.py there | 16:53 |
| exarkun | Is "launchpadbugs" a Python library that implements a client for the launchpad API (at least the bugs part of it)? | 16:55 |
| idnar | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/41702 | 16:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 41702 in malone "Allow mass changing of bugs' statuses" [High,Triaged] | 16:57 |
| * exarkun finds python-launchpadlib and python-launchpad-bugs | 16:59 | |
| bdmurray | python-launchpadbugs does not use the API so you likely don't want that | 17:01 |
| exarkun | I got a little excited when I saw the MODULE DOCS section in the output of `pydoc launchpadbugs` | 17:02 |
| exarkun | "A module with some real docs!" I thought | 17:02 |
| exarkun | Hopes raised, only to be dashed. How cruel. | 17:03 |
| exarkun | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/482250 | 17:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 482250 in python2.6 "pydoc tells lies about external module documentation" [Undecided,New] | 17:10 |
| exarkun | I guess I'll stop wasting time with this, now, and start wasting time manually updating each bug individually. | 17:10 |
| Ursinha | bdmurray, what's the error message | 17:11 |
| bdmurray | Connection closed by remote host. | 17:12 |
| bdmurray | exarkun: what exactly do you want to do? | 17:15 |
| exarkun | I made a release. I wanted to mark all the bugs it fixes as "Fix Released". | 17:17 |
| exarkun | It's done now, I did it, there were only 15 bugs or so. | 17:17 |
| exarkun | I'll come back and complain again when I have to do another release. | 17:18 |
| bdmurray | you'd use something like task.transitionToStatus(status="Fix Released") | 17:18 |
| exarkun | I've never used the API, so that doesn't mean much to me. Thanks anyway. | 17:18 |
| ilil | hi! why https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug redirects to help.ubuntu.com? is that normal? | 17:42 |
| ilil | and i tried https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug?no-redirect variant, but error is arised constantly ... | 17:48 |
| czajkowski | 1/part | 17:55 |
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| DanielC | Hello. Is it possible to upload a file to launchpad without using bzr? | 19:42 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: in what sense? | 19:42 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: you can upload tarballs with translations, afaik | 19:43 |
| hggdh | when I change bug status via the email interface, do I receive an email back with confirmation? | 19:43 |
| DanielC | LarstiQ: I'm thinking of someone who wants to upload a zip file with a simple program but can't install bzr (e.g. a student in a school that refuses to install new software). | 19:43 |
| bossekr | hi; I've send the following email http://pastie.org/697716 to edig@bugs.lauchpad.net and hope it will work; I'm not a member of bugcontrol | 19:44 |
| DanielC | LarstiQ: We want to teach some kids about programming and open source. They'd write simple programs with JavaScript and upload them to Launchpad, so they get to learn a bit about what FOSS is about. | 19:44 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: that I do not know | 19:45 |
| DanielC | ok | 19:45 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: however, bzr can run without being installed, just unpack the tarball and go | 19:45 |
| LarstiQ | (it will be faster if you can build the c extensions, but not required) | 19:45 |
| DanielC | thanks, I didn't know that. | 19:46 |
| DanielC | is that also true in Windows? is it also true for the GUI? | 19:46 |
| LarstiQ | it's true in Windows, but it might require a little bit more effort to be nice (setting up %PATH%, %PATHEXT%, etc) | 19:47 |
| LarstiQ | no clue about a/the GUI | 19:47 |
| bossekr | how log will it take until I get a replay on my email send to edit@bugs.l.net ? | 19:47 |
| DanielC | LarstiQ: bzr is written in Python. I didn't think that Windows came with Python. | 19:47 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: oh bah | 19:48 |
| DanielC | ? | 19:48 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: if the school won't install python, yeah, that's a blocker | 19:48 |
| DanielC | Ok, thanks. | 19:48 |
| * LarstiQ didn't realise that would be possible | 19:48 | |
| DanielC | I don't know myself. | 19:48 |
| LarstiQ | I mean, who doesn't want python available? :) | 19:48 |
| DanielC | I'm just exploring possible problems. | 19:49 |
| DanielC | heh | 19:49 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: one could upload releases to launchpad, but that's a bit cumbersome to development that way | 19:49 |
| DanielC | We are currently in the "exploration" phase. We have some ideas, and we want to figure out what's possible and what might be a problem. | 19:49 |
| DanielC | For a very small project (e.g. tic tac toe in JavaScript) it might not be a problem. | 19:50 |
| DanielC | Can you show me how to upload a release? | 19:50 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads | 19:52 |
| DanielC | *click* | 19:52 |
| DanielC | thanks | 19:52 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: alternatively, if a Debian based system is available, you could use a PPA, but that's even more work (since the goal is to provide software packaged for Debian based systems) | 19:53 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | 19:53 |
| LarstiQ | DanielC: could lead into a course on packaging software though :) | 19:53 |
| DanielC | I doubt there will be any schools running Debian which are also unwilling to just install bzr. | 19:53 |
| * LarstiQ nods | 19:54 | |
| DanielC | Thanks for the help. | 19:54 |
| LarstiQ | np | 19:55 |
| bossekr | hi everybody; can someone check the logs of lauchpad why my email send to edit@bugs.lauchpad.net is not preocessed ? | 19:59 |
| LarstiQ | bossekr: is edit@ a new service? | 20:00 |
| LarstiQ | bossekr: did you gpg sign it? | 20:00 |
| hggdh | LarstiQ: this is the email body bossekr sent: http://pastie.org/697716 | 20:02 |
| LarstiQ | hggdh: then that looks as if he is not indenting the commands correctly | 20:03 |
| hggdh | you mean an initial space on the lines changing bug fields? | 20:05 |
| LarstiQ | hggdh: yup | 20:05 |
| LarstiQ | hggdh: ala https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface | 20:05 |
| bossekr | LarstiQ, yes this is my email http://pastie.org/697716 | 20:05 |
| bossekr | do I need one space more (column 2) ? | 20:05 |
| LarstiQ | bossekr: I don't see any indentation on that email, so yeah, one more | 20:06 |
| bossekr | LarstiQ, should this work http://pastie.org/697766 ? | 20:08 |
| LarstiQ | bossekr: I think so | 20:09 |
| bossekr | LarstiQ, email is out | 20:10 |
| hggdh | LarstiQ: yes indeed it sounds like it... may I suggest even more emphasys on the lines talking about it on help.lp? | 20:15 |
| hggdh | and thank you | 20:15 |
| LarstiQ | hggdh: I agree (and am just a user, not an lp dev) | 20:15 |
| LarstiQ | kfogel: it seems the requirement for indentation is not mentioned on https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface ? | 20:16 |
| bossekr | hggdh, did something changed ? I did not get any feedback by bugs@edit.l.net right now | 20:16 |
| hggdh | bossekr: will check | 20:17 |
| hggdh | nox | 20:17 |
| hggdh | nix | 20:17 |
| hggdh | perhaps it has not yet been processed | 20:17 |
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| bossekr | hggdh, thx, could you please change also the 3 minutes the messages will be processed... it seams that it is not... | 20:23 |
| hggdh | *I* cannot, don't have access there | 20:24 |
| kfogel | LarstiQ: which indentation requirement? | 20:24 |
| kfogel | LarstiQ: I might not know it either! | 20:25 |
| kfogel | :-) | 20:25 |
| rockstar | kfogel, commands through the email interface must be prefaced with a single space. | 20:25 |
| kfogel | rockstar: ah. okay. I *think* I used those, but can't be sure. | 20:26 |
| kfogel | rockstar, LarstiQ: the page does mention it now though | 20:26 |
| bossekr | kfogel, the examples about edit@bugs.launchpad.net at https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface | 20:27 |
| kfogel | rockstar, LarstiQ: andrea corbellini made it say so on aug 8 | 20:27 |
| LarstiQ | ah, at the commands reference | 20:27 |
| hggdh | kfogel: what I was suggesting was make the sentence about it *really* shouting out | 20:27 |
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| * LarstiQ grepped for 'indent' and tried to scan | 20:28 | |
| LarstiQ | kfogel: I see | 20:28 |
| kfogel | bossekr, hggdh, LarstiQ: yeah, they don't say "indent", but the examples look correct and there is discussion of a space | 20:28 |
| kfogel | hggdh: shout out even more than it already does? | 20:28 |
| * LarstiQ nods | 20:28 | |
| bossekr | kfogel, what about the GnuPG signing ? the examples do not show this ? | 20:28 |
| hggdh | yes indeed. I missed the sentence when I scanned the help | 20:28 |
| bossekr | kfogel, is signing of the message required at all ? | 20:29 |
| LarstiQ | bossekr: yes | 20:29 |
| LarstiQ | bossekr: see "Before you start" | 20:29 |
| kfogel | bossekr: I think not. But, it must come from a launchpad-known addr, I think. | 20:29 |
| kfogel | LarstiQ: oh, it does claim that, huh? | 20:29 |
| kfogel | LarstiQ: maybe that's true, but ISTR not. I could be wrong. | 20:30 |
| LarstiQ | kfogel: Now I don't know what to believe :) | 20:30 |
| kfogel | I actually don't use the bug tracker email interface that much. What's needed here is some testing :-). | 20:30 |
| bossekr | kfogel, fine but https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface#What%20to%20expect%20when%20you%20submit%20an%20email talks about "three minutes" and I'm waiting longer | 20:31 |
| bossekr | kfogel, it would be helpful to get email if someting is missunderstood by edit@bugs.l.net... | 20:31 |
| bossekr | kfogel, I would need someone with access to the logs because I'm trying and trying and trying without success | 20:32 |
| kfogel | bossekr: can you file a bug report on what exactly is going on? that's the best way we can trace the problem. | 20:32 |
| bossekr | kfogel, bug reports goes to new@bugs.launchpad.net with "affects lauchpad" ? | 20:34 |
| kfogel | bossekr: I meant file via the web UI, so we know it goes in :-). | 20:34 |
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| bossekr | kfogel, could you please send me the URL ? | 20:38 |
| kfogel | bossekr: sure, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+filebug | 20:39 |
| kfogel | bossekr: "malone" is the component name of the bug tracker in Launchpad, and yes, we know it's not terribly obvious :-( | 20:39 |
| bossekr | kfogel, thx | 20:46 |
| kfogel | np | 20:46 |
| tonyyarusso | Um, wow. So I'm trying to establish the plural forms for a language so I can file the proper ticket to add them to Rosetta. I got the following as a response, and I'm wondering if this is sufficient to submit, or what I should try to follow up on, as it's rather complicated. http://paste.ubuntu.com/318152/ | 21:10 |
| LarstiQ | tonyyarusso: oh boy :) | 21:14 |
| tonyyarusso | ya rly | 21:15 |
| kfogel | tonyyarusso: looking | 21:15 |
| kfogel | tonyyarusso: thank you for ruining my day :-) | 21:15 |
| tonyyarusso | You're welcome :) | 21:16 |
| sladen | tonyyarusso: that makes Finnish look simple... | 21:25 |
| tonyyarusso | It might be simpler than it looks from a Rosetta perspective though - does Rosetta just need to know how many boxes to present, or does it try to do some things automatically with the data later? | 21:29 |
| LarstiQ | sladen: but it is! | 21:29 |
| sladen | LarstiQ: :) | 21:47 |
| sladen | who's on the SWAT team and can do something about bug #482382 | 22:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 482382 in malone "Runaway Launchpad bug dups create "Unsubscribe Me Too!" hell" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/482382 | 22:03 |
| henninge | tonyyarusso: gettext (and therefore rosetta) is only concerned about how many plural form there are and for which number of objects each is used. | 22:06 |
| tonyyarusso | henninge: Could you elaborate a little on what that means for my situation? I haven't started using Rosetta yet, so I'm not really sure how it uses the information. | 22:07 |
| henninge | tonyyarusso: "how many" is only dependent on the *number* of objects, not on any other attribute the objects might have. | 22:07 |
| LarstiQ | ie, gettext is unable to represent languages for which purely the number is not enough? | 22:09 |
| henninge | LarstiQ: I don't understand that question. | 22:10 |
| sladen | surely in this case, for any word (in any particular situation, or any gender), there are only two versions (== 1, or != 1) | 22:11 |
| LarstiQ | sladen: ah, right | 22:11 |
| tonyyarusso | sladen: That's what I would think; I'm just trying to make sure Rosetta doesn't try to do anything smarter with it. | 22:11 |
| sladen | so LP needs to show two boxes, and the particular user doing the translation is themselves away of the syntax requirements of that instance | 22:11 |
| sladen | s/away/aware/ | 22:12 |
| henninge | tonyyarusso, sladen, LarstiQ: No, rosetta is not trying anything smarter. It's just about the number of input boxes. | 22:19 |
| tonyyarusso | mmkay | 22:19 |
| henninge | gettext uses the plural expression to pick one | 22:20 |
| henninge | I think the missunderstanding here is that many people don't realise that other languages have more than one plural | 22:20 |
| henninge | like polish or serbian, which have two plurals | 22:20 |
| henninge | to gettext, that means 3 plural forms (one singular, two plural) | 22:21 |
| henninge | for example, singular may be used for one object, the first plural is used for two, twelve, 22, etc objects and the second plural form for all other numbers. | 22:22 |
| henninge | (polish and serbian is different but I don't konw the exact rule) | 22:22 |
| henninge | arabic has six plurals, I think. | 22:23 |
| henninge | tonyyarusso: anyway, in your case it's simply "2" for the number of plural forms (singular + one plural) and "n!=1" for the expression, meaning any number of objects that is not 1 uses the plural (including zero). | 22:25 |
| henninge | tonyyarusso: that is what I gather from the discussion. | 22:25 |
| tonyyarusso | Sounds right, thanks. | 22:27 |
| tonyyarusso | I can always adjust it later if one of my translators says otherwise. | 22:27 |
| sladen | deryck: ta for acking that; who can actually do something about it? | 22:32 |
| deryck | sladen, intellectronica and I are sprinting this week. and having a conversation in an hour about what we can do on this. | 22:34 |
| sladen | deryck: groovy! | 22:35 |
| deryck | sladen, I'll update the bug as soon as I have new, hopefully positive, info. | 22:36 |
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