| gkahla | hey folks - is there a specific channel for ubuntu netbook remix? | 00:05 |
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| TheMuso | Intel need to release descrete cards, and ATI's lower end cards need to be cheaper. | 00:41 |
| TheMuso | woops wrong channel. | 00:42 |
| dtchen_ | although it's just as true here ;-) | 00:42 |
| TheMuso | heh true that. | 00:44 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 06:32 |
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| huats | morning | 07:47 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 08:55 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 08:56 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti, how are you? | 08:56 |
| pitti | pretty good, thanks! how about you? | 08:57 |
| pitti | I need to do the packing for UDS today | 08:58 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm not too bad. glad it's the weekend though :) | 08:59 |
| chrisccoulson | are you looking forward to next week? | 09:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i think i might have to start on lucid merges today! | 09:06 |
| chrisccoulson | at last :) | 09:06 |
| pitti | I do, of course | 09:07 |
| pitti | heh, have fun | 09:07 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: next Tuesday is the next TB meeting, I hope we can finish the ubuntu-desktop upload rights voting then, and throw the switch | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | fantastic, that would be quite useful :) | 09:09 |
| chrisccoulson | ooh, breakfast time:) | 09:11 |
| pitti | *phew*, ubuntu inbox zero + 2 :) | 09:18 |
| pitti | some cleanup was in order before leaving tomorrow :) | 09:18 |
| pitti | I need to disappear for ~ 2 hours for some errands | 09:30 |
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| pitti | tseliot: congrats to your first lucid spec :) | 13:12 |
| pitti | tseliot: I handed https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-xorg-proprietary-drivers to you, which I think kind of fits your interests and skills? | 13:12 |
| tseliot | pitti: ok, I guess this will be part of my work for the Desktop team (for the team swap) in addition to my work on the boot process | 13:27 |
| pitti | tseliot: ah, you already earned some other project? | 13:27 |
| pitti | tseliot: so you'll work on the X.org side for smooth booting? | 13:27 |
| pitti | (let's discuss the details next week) | 13:28 |
| tseliot | pitti: yes, right | 13:28 |
| tseliot | I won't be there at the UDS but I can participate from home | 13:28 |
| * pitti yays at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJX8ZOMaol4 | 13:28 | |
| pitti | tseliot: oh, not? what a pity :( | 13:28 |
| tseliot | pitti: I'm buying a house therefore my presence is required here | 13:29 |
| tseliot | pitti: yes, that's what I'm working on with Keybuk | 13:30 |
| mvo | pitti: I remember there was a issue with g-d-u to overly agressive tell about disk failures, I wonder if bug #479086 is releated to that? | 13:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 479086 in update-manager "9.1 disk imminent crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/479086 | 13:32 |
| mvo | bug #438136 maybe? | 13:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 438136 in libatasmart "palimpsest bad sectors false positive" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438136 | 13:34 |
| pitti | mvo: right, the latter is still confirmed | 13:36 |
| mvo | ok, thanks | 13:36 |
| davmor2 | pitti: that's just magic Keybuk was on about it at the launch party :) | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | davmor2: yes, but thanks to tseliot it works now ;) | 14:21 |
| davmor2 | nice one tseliot | 14:22 |
| Keybuk | of course, still more bugs to fix | 14:25 |
| Keybuk | - flashing cursor over top of the image while X starts :-/ | 14:26 |
| Keybuk | - plymouthd crashes and wipes out X (yeah, minor) | 14:26 |
| Keybuk | - if plymouthd is started before X, you can't vt switch out of X ever again (even after X finishes) | 14:26 |
| tseliot | yay :-P | 14:26 |
| pitti | oh, so plymouth then? I thought that was shelved for a while | 14:27 |
| Keybuk | actually, I think that last one is a "feature" :p | 14:27 |
| Keybuk | pitti: yeah, it just makes much more sense | 14:27 |
| * tseliot nods | 14:29 | |
| tgpraveen | in karmic is it a known bug that hard disks and usb disks names appears as AC30au8995C59 or some code? | 14:29 |
| seb128 | hello there | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 14:32 |
| seb128 | hi kenvandine | 14:32 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | good... preparing for the trip | 14:32 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | how's dallas? | 14:32 |
| seb128 | guten tag pitti | 14:32 |
| pitti | oh, I still need to pack, too | 14:32 |
| seb128 | don't forget your swimming short | 14:32 |
| pitti | good point | 14:33 |
| * kenvandine thought it was kind of chilly in dallas | 14:33 | |
| seb128 | matter of perspective | 14:34 |
| seb128 | weather is good enough to hand around in tshirt | 14:34 |
| seb128 | where it's freezing in europe | 14:34 |
| seb128 | dunno how it is from where you are coming | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | 47F | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | but it is going to be in the 70s tomorrow | 14:35 |
| * kenvandine is still wearing shorts :) | 14:35 | |
| serialorder | i am merging tomboy and when I test it in schroot it gives me a warning that it could not load canberra-gtk-module because it is missing. It runs fine otherwise. I am wondering if I should add a depends on canberra-gtk-module? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | serialorder, rather a recommend maybe? it's tomboy using it directly? | 14:49 |
| serialorder | i was thinking a recommend, i am not quite sure how to check if it is using it directly. I can fumble around and try to find out unless you know where i might look | 14:51 |
| seb128 | serialorder, what is displaying the warning? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | tomboy code? | 14:58 |
| Laney | serialorder: if you discover a problem please forward it to debian too | 14:59 |
| serialorder | seb128, no the package built fine and installed fine, the warning came when I actually ran tomboy | 14:59 |
| seb128 | right | 14:59 |
| seb128 | but it could be due to let's say gtk | 15:00 |
| serialorder | i mean it runs fine, i just got that warning | 15:00 |
| seb128 | tomboy uses gtk which uses ... | 15:00 |
| seb128 | right but we need to figure what call is triggering the warning | 15:00 |
| serialorder | thats the part i am not totally clear on figuring out how to do, so I am working on that part now | 15:02 |
| rickspencer3 | hello asac | 15:21 |
| asac | hi rickspencer3 | 15:21 |
| pitti | seb128: how's the conf center? AC madness again, or warm enough for T-shirts? | 15:33 |
| * pitti wonders what kind of clothing to pack | 15:33 | |
| seb128 | between those | 15:37 |
| seb128 | better to have a small jacket | 15:37 |
| seb128 | and it can get worse with the number of people | 15:37 |
| seb128 | re | 15:39 |
| pitti | seb128: so, AC then? | 15:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, got my reply? | 15:40 |
| pitti | seb128: I freeze easily, so I rather bring some pullovers then | 15:40 |
| pitti | seb128: merci | 15:40 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I got it | 15:40 |
| seb128 | between those | 15:40 |
| seb128 | better to have a small jacket | 15:40 |
| seb128 | and it can get worse with the number of people | 15:40 |
| seb128 | I'm wearing a tshirt now but was cold yesterday afternoon | 15:42 |
| seb128 | yes AC | 15:42 |
| corp186 | I have a new package that acts as a server to accept remote input events (keyboard, mouse, joystick, etc.) from clients | 15:43 |
| corp186 | I'm looking for advocates for inclusion into lucid | 15:43 |
| corp186 | The revu page: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7025 | 15:44 |
| corp186 | Thanks for your consideration | 15:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:44 |
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| pitti | seb128, kenvandine: | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | hey pitti | 15:48 |
| pitti | http://www.wetter.com/wetter_aktuell/wettervorhersage/7_tagesvorhersage/?id=US0TX0325 says that it was quite warm this week, but next week it's going to be much colder/rainy | 15:48 |
| pitti | :-( | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USTX0327?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | i bit different forecast | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | shows mostly sunny all week | 15:51 |
| seb128 | we are going to locked inside anyway | 15:53 |
| seb128 | we are going to locked inside anyway so the weather... | 15:53 |
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| didrocks | hum, people are reporting libgtk being uninstalable on lucid against the Quickly project (not even the package O_o) Don't know how they came there :) | 16:12 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, bug #? | 16:17 |
| didrocks | bug #482192 | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 482192 in quickly "[Lucid] unmet dependencies in libgtk" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/482192 | 16:18 |
| hggdh | best site for weather in the US is noaa.gov | 16:18 |
| hggdh | for Dallas: http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Dallas&state=TX&site=FWD&textField1=32.7942&textField2=-96.7652&e=0 | 16:19 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: are you planning making some slides for the Quickly plenary session? I would merge mine if possible | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, I have them, yes | 16:20 |
| mpt_ | mvo, YokoZar suggested a UDS session on handling multiarch packages in the Ubuntu Software Center. Do you think it's important enough for a session? | 16:21 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: do you have any documentation about new suspend inhibition api? | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda - i don't have any | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | how come? | 16:38 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: well - people are complaining that transmission wasn't ported to the new API and suspend inhibition doesn't work in ubuntu 9.10/fedora 12 | 16:38 |
| baptistemm | ah yeah I seen that in the outpt of transmission | 16:40 |
| baptistemm | I guess the new api is provided by gnome-session, no? | 16:40 |
| kklimonda | yes | 16:40 |
| baptistemm | it should be straightforward, rb had a smae patch few weeks ago | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda - it just needs to call org.gnome.SessionManager.Inhibit() | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | the "flags" parameter should be set to 4 for suspend inhibit | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | or 8 for idle inhibit | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | or 1 for logout inhibit | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | and it needs to save the cookie for uninhibiting later on | 16:42 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 16:42 |
| seb128 | how are things going? | 16:42 |
| seb128 | still no baby? | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, not too bad thanks. i'm finished for the weekend now | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | no baby yet ;) | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 16:42 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: so what's different? | 16:43 |
| seb128 | good thanks | 16:43 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda - different to what? | 16:43 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - hows dallas? | 16:43 |
| seb128 | not sure | 16:43 |
| seb128 | I've mainly seen the hotel and restaurants | 16:43 |
| baptistemm | did you see bobby Ewing ? | 16:44 |
| seb128 | hard to judge a city from the corner where you are hanging | 16:44 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: to the way now it works - was it only moved from org.freedesktop.Power... to org.gnome.SessionManager? | 16:44 |
| seb128 | but sprint is good ;-) | 16:44 |
| baptistemm | chrisccoulson, ah you're expecting baby arrival soon? | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | baptistemm - i am:) | 16:44 |
| baptistemm | oooh oho ho | 16:44 |
| baptistemm | you can say bye bye to your free time :) | 16:45 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda - the only difference is the API is slightly different, and you need to talk to gnome-session rather than g-p-m | 16:45 |
| baptistemm | You'll be happy to go to work to have some sleep | 16:45 |
| baptistemm | :) | 16:45 |
| chrisccoulson | baptistemm - i already have no free time ;) | 16:45 |
| chrisccoulson | i need the day extending to 28 hours ;) | 16:45 |
| chrisccoulson | or only go to work for 4 hours/day | 16:45 |
| chrisccoulson | (the latter sounds better) | 16:46 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: ok, thanks | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda - let me know if you need any other help | 16:49 |
| baptistemm | kklimonda, have you the nick belegdol on GIMPnet because someone ask the same question than you on #fedora-desktop there :) | 17:05 |
| kklimonda | baptistemm: yes - he just asked the same question on #transmission ;) | 17:06 |
| kklimonda | baptistemm: and it reminded me about this issue | 17:06 |
| baptistemm | k | 17:08 |
| mvo | mpt_: a good question, I'm not sure apt will be able to handle them properly for lucid | 17:43 |
| seb128 | hey mvo | 17:43 |
| seb128 | mvo, don't forget to take your swimming short | 17:43 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 17:44 |
| mvo | seb128: heh :) thanks! | 17:44 |
| mvo | seb128: is the pool nice? inside? outside? | 17:44 |
| mvo | seb128: do I need a warm coat in general? or is the weather warm | 17:45 |
| mpt_ | mvo, it's up to you, if you think it's worth a UDS session talk to robbiew :-) | 17:45 |
| seb128 | mvo, the pool is nice yes | 17:45 |
| seb128 | outside | 17:45 |
| seb128 | but warm water | 17:45 |
| mvo | mpt_: thanks, I will keep it in mind | 17:45 |
| seb128 | some 15 metres | 17:45 |
| seb128 | enough to swim ;-) | 17:45 |
| seb128 | weather, ac is cold sometime in the rooms | 17:45 |
| seb128 | outside is limit between tshirt and frisky | 17:45 |
| seb128 | but they announce a bit colder next week | 17:46 |
| seb128 | nothing like germany | 17:46 |
| seb128 | but still take a small jacket | 17:46 |
| seb128 | or a pullover | 17:46 |
| seb128 | take some vegetables too with you maybe ;-) | 17:46 |
| mvo | seb128: haha | 17:50 |
| mpt_ | mvo, I'm fairly sure software-center trunk doesn't include some bug-fixes nzmm made to the behavior of the pathbutton widget | 17:50 |
| * seb128 hugs mvo | 17:50 | |
| mpt_ | mvo, specifically, it doesn't do the right thing if you drag off a segment and then back on to it without releasing the mouse button, and I think nzmm's branch had fixed that | 17:51 |
| mvo | mpt_: hm, ok. let me check | 17:56 |
| mvo | mpt_: merged | 17:59 |
| mpt_ | mvo, awesome, thanks | 17:59 |
| mpt_ | mvo, I'm working right now on improving the program listing design (getting rid of the right arrow button), and then on where to put non-application packages | 18:00 |
| mvo | mpt_: ok, I will be in dallas tomorrow, I'm curious to hear your ideas | 18:01 |
| mpt_ | mvo, rather unfortunate to discover that someone installing 9.10 can't install anything with the Ubuntu Software Center unless they install updates (or run Synaptic) first :-/ | 18:01 |
| mpt_ | mvo, ok, look forward to seeing you :-) | 18:02 |
| mvo | mpt_: hm, this got tested, is it true for all situations. or only under some circumstance (like no network during install or similar)? | 18:02 |
| mpt_ | mvo, I don't know whether it's dependent on connection, but we saw it here at the sprint with sabdfl installing 9.10, and there have been a few bug reports and tweets about it too | 18:03 |
| mvo | :( | 18:04 |
| mpt_ | mvo, bug 466321 | 18:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 466321 in software-center "After Ubuntu installation, nothing is installable until package list is updated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/466321 | 18:04 |
| mpt_ | mvo, it might actually be a duplicate of 430200, you'd know that better than me | 18:04 |
| mpt_ | bug 430200, I mean | 18:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 430200 in software-center "does not support detecting if apt cache is broken" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430200 | 18:04 |
| mvo | well, cache should not be broken after a fresh install | 18:05 |
| mvo | :( | 18:05 |
| mvo | mpt_: first update or first cronjob run? | 18:05 |
| mpt_ | don't know | 18:05 |
| mpt_ | but it was fixed as soon as sabdfl went into Synaptic and hit Reload | 18:06 |
| mvo | mpt_: I find it hard to believe that this slipped through the cracks if it did not for for anyone, let me test here | 18:07 |
| mpt_ | mvo, I find it quite easy to believe, since testers would routinely install all updates before testing anything else :-) | 18:07 |
| mvo | mpt_: do you happen to know if it was a desktop or a alternate install? | 18:08 |
| mpt_ | mvo, desktop | 18:08 |
| mvo | thanks | 18:09 |
| mvo | mpt_: *oh* nothing or no universe packages? | 18:09 |
| mpt_ | mvo, hmmmm, good question. It might only be for Universe. | 18:10 |
| mvo | mpt_: because I think its actually a problem with the live cd | 18:10 |
| mvo | mpt_: it does not have universe enabled, so there are no packages in the cache for universe on a fresh install, that is a plausible theory | 18:10 |
| * mvo tests it | 18:10 | |
| mpt_ | mvo, the packages show up in the listing, it's just the "Install" and "Website" buttons that are missing | 18:10 |
| * mvo nods | 18:11 | |
| mpt_ | ah, I see what you mean | 18:13 |
| mpt_ | The universe packages might be in app-install-data but not in the cache | 18:13 |
| mvo | mpt_: exaclty | 18:13 |
| mvo | mpt_: hm,hm, but then, I *think* when the langpack stuff is triggered ubiquity does a cache reload, so it might be only networkless installs | 18:15 |
| mvo | mpt_: but this is speculation, I need to test to be sure | 18:15 |
| mpt_ | mvo, so it might not be worth fixing this until after we replace app-install-data with the archive index | 18:15 |
| pitti | bye everyone! see you in Dallas tomorrow! | 18:16 |
| mpt_ | mvo, we can't fix it in an update for 9.10, because anyone who installs any update is no longer having the problem anyway | 18:16 |
| pitti | (or some of you in Frankfurt perhaps) | 18:16 |
| mpt_ | mvo, and with the archive index if the bug still exists it would need to be fixed in a different way. | 18:16 |
| mvo | mpt_: hm, right, shipping a update is no good | 18:17 |
| mvo | mpt_: still, we need to fix it for lucid | 18:18 |
| mpt_ | yep | 18:18 |
| mvo | and for the repo based ones, it will be a similar problem, if sources.list contains stuff but we don't have data for it we need to trigger a reload | 18:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, see you | 18:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, have a safe trip there! | 18:19 |
| mvo | mpt_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/105511 | 18:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 105511 in livecd-rootfs "Universe and Multiverse not enabled by default on the livecd" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 18:33 |
| mvo | mpt_: that is the root cause | 18:34 |
| mpt_ | waha, disk space | 18:34 |
| mpt_ | should have guessed :-) | 18:34 |
| mac_v | seb128: around? , I'm again faced by this bug > Bug #416251 , it seemed solved for a month and now its back... other users are also reporting the same problems , could you re-open the upstream task also? | 18:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416251 in nautilus "Nautilus does not show Desktop thumbnails" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416251 | 18:38 |
| mvo | mpt_: I'm sure it printed something helpful like "not available in current data" :( I can reproduce the problem now I think | 18:39 |
| mac_v | this now not restricted to desktop.. the thumbnails for images/videos dont even show up in the folders | 18:39 |
| * mvo need to go pack his stuff | 18:40 | |
| pedro_ | mac_v, comment on the upstream bug and i'll re open it for you | 18:40 |
| mac_v | pedro_: will do... thanks :) | 18:40 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 18:41 |
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| mac_v | pedro_: nevermind...I just realized that i had started the upstream bug and i reopened it myself... sorry for the noise ;) | 18:53 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, no worries, i've updated the version number for you there | 18:56 |
| mac_v | ah , right.. i forgot that :) | 18:58 |
| seb128 | re | 20:03 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I reassigned bug #462768 to the desktop team now | 20:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 462768 in gnome-session "gnome-session-properties should filter by NoDisplay" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/462768 | 20:03 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, it's waiting in the sponsor queue and since you can't upload anyway | 20:04 |
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| kenvandine | yay | 20:08 |
| * kenvandine needs to stop messing with mission critical boxes right before going out of town :) | 20:08 | |
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