[00:07] <Thelasko> Anybody know how to change the storage location from /var to /home?
[00:10] <tgm4883> Thelasko, don't do that
[00:10] <tgm4883> Thelasko, which storage directory?
[00:10] <mrand> !auto% | jduggan
[00:10] <Zinn> jduggan: If 9.10 upgrade broke auto-login for you, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/463314
[00:10] <mrand> oops
[00:10] <mrand> jduggan:  http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[00:10] <Thelasko> Mythtv wants to keep everything in /var
[00:10] <Thelasko> that's on my root partition
[00:11] <Thelasko> I either have to change that, or repartition my drive
[00:11] <tgm4883> Thelasko, there is option 3 I suppose
[00:11] <tgm4883> !blank%
[00:11] <Zinn> If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[00:11] <tgm4883> you could symlink a dir to /var/lib/mythtv from your home dir
[00:11] <tgm4883> that might work
[00:11] <Thelasko> I thought of that
[00:12] <tgm4883> but putting things in your /home dir usually causes lots of problems
[00:12] <Thelasko> crap
[00:12] <tgm4883> You can certainly try though if you really want
[00:12] <rhpot1991> I'd avoid home
[00:12] <tgm4883> I know how to set it up
[00:12] <rhpot1991> you can use it if you want, but it may produce headaches
[00:12] <Thelasko> I wish I knew this before I installed
[00:12] <rhpot1991> Thelasko: resize home and make a new partition for recordings?
[00:13] <mrand> rhpot1991: like what?  Beyond filling up the filesystem unless you reserve X amount of space?
[00:13] <rhpot1991> then mount it to /var/lib/mythtv
[00:13] <rhpot1991> mrand: permissions issues
[00:13] <tgm4883> mrand, theres lots of odd things if it's in /home
[00:13] <rhpot1991> mrand: we've seen it a lot in the past where people who use /home for things have issues there
[00:13] <tgm4883> yep
[00:13] <Thelasko> why does it use /var?
[00:14] <rhpot1991> you can try it if you want, but history tells us not to
[00:14] <rhpot1991> history and zinn
[00:14] <mrand> drwxr-xr-x   7 root root  4096 2008-05-08 07:28 home
[00:14] <mrand> drwxr-xr-x  18 root root  4096 2009-09-20 07:53 var
[00:14] <mrand> same owner and permissions?
[00:15] <Thelasko> What's all of this?
[00:15] <mrand> It's not that I don't believe you guys... you've been there before.  Just trying to imagine what the problems are.
[00:16] <Thelasko> I can see there being permission problems if it's not done correctly.
[00:16] <Thelasko> Can I create a /var partition?
[00:16] <tgm4883> Thelasko, thats just it, even setup correctly it wasn't working properly
[00:16] <tgm4883> Thelasko, yea you can create that as a partition
[00:16] <mrand> Thelasko: yes... gparted should allow you to resize your existing /home and carve out a new one.
[00:17] <Thelasko> Yeah, but will the new one have the correct permissions?
[00:17] <rhpot1991> if not its easy to fix
[00:18] <rhpot1991> sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /whatever/path
[00:18] <rhpot1991> sudo chmod 775 /whatever/path
[00:18] <Thelasko> I'm thinking about starting over tomorrow...
[00:18] <Thelasko> can I run gparted from mythtv or should I boot my livecd?
[00:19] <Thelasko> If I add a /var partition, will I have two /vars?
[00:19] <rhpot1991> we'll you'd need to copy everything to the new one
[00:19] <mrand> Oh, you already have a /var ?
[00:20] <rhpot1991> if you just want it for recordings then its easier to just make a new partition and mount it at /var/lib/mythtv
[00:20] <rhpot1991> and just copy over everything thats there into the new directory
[00:20] <rhpot1991> you'll need to juggle files around as you put the new one in place
[00:20] <rhpot1991> and I'm not sure if you can resize home while its mounted, it should yell if its something you shouldn't be doing
[00:21] <mrand> Thelasko: you may have to burn gparted to a USB-stick or CD and boot it.
[00:21] <mrand> Might be easiest.
[00:21] <mrand> bbl
[00:21] <Thelasko> from reading the forums, I think it yells
[00:21] <Thelasko> I have a cd somewhere
[00:21] <Thelasko> I just got wireless working, so I might give it a shot
[00:21] <Thelasko> with gparted
[00:23] <rhpot1991> Thelasko: you can just boot the install cd
[00:23] <rhpot1991> and "install" gparted on there
[00:24] <Thelasko> nah, I found my livecd
[00:24] <Thelasko> and a copy of Encarta 99 apparently =-O
[00:27] <Thelasko> ah, crap!
[00:27] <Thelasko> my live cd is pre-ext4!
[00:27] <tgm4883> why do you need a live cd?
[00:27] <tgm4883> sorry, going back and forth between a few thigns
[00:27] <Thelasko> gparted live cd
[00:27] <tgm4883> are you reinstalling?
[00:28] <Thelasko> no, reptartitioning
[00:28] <tgm4883> ah
[00:28] <tgm4883> nm then, carry on
[00:28] <Thelasko> shrinking /home and creating /var
[00:28] <Thelasko> nm?
[00:28] <tgm4883> never mind
[01:33] <Thelasko> I reinstalled
[01:33] <Thelasko> it was easier
[01:34] <Thelasko> Since I didn't have to format my /home most of my settings remained
[01:34] <MythbuntuGuest33> hey guys..new Mythbuntu 9.10 install..can't rip DVD and can't see videos from /var/lib/mythtv/videos via frontend but can play them from VLC on machine and another PC on network
[01:37] <MythbuntuGuest33> changed default dvd from /dev/dvd to /dev/sr0 which is what it actually mounted as
[01:44] <MythbuntuGuest33> I can play dvd from the DVD-ROM drive via the frontend btw
[01:56] <Thelasko> do you have to install restricted-extras or medibuntu in mythbuntu?
[02:03] <MythbuntuGuest33> the linux chat rule worked..I seem to have fixed my DVD rip issue
[02:08] <Thelasko> the answer is yes, you need mythbuntu.
[02:14] <MythbuntuGuest33> okay..so now I have an avi and an iso I just burned in /var/lib/mythtv/videos but I can't view them in the frontend???
[02:26] <tmkt> no mirobridge with mythbuntu?
[02:35] <MythbuntuGuest33> is miro bridge part of the 9.10 install?  sorry I'm a mythbuntu newb
[02:39] <tgm4883> iirc, mirobridge is part of mythtv, so it should be part of the 9.10 install
[02:39] <tgm4883> although it would need setup
[02:40] <tgm4883> Thelasko, that can all be installed from MCC
[02:40] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest33, have you looked at the release notes for 9.10? There is an extra piece you have to setup for ripping DVD's, and you also might want to read the limitations about storage groups
[02:40] <tgm4883> !faq
[02:40] <Zinn> http://www.mythbuntu.org/FAQ
[02:51] <Thelasko> who neutered GUFW?
[02:51] <tgm4883> GUFW?
[02:52] <Thelasko> GUI Uncomplicated FireWall
[02:52] <tgm4883> ah
[02:52] <tgm4883> not me
[02:52] <Thelasko> They took away all of the logging and options
[02:52] <Thelasko> I'm not even sure if it's doing anything anymore
[02:53] <Thelasko> I'm trying to access my mythtv box via SAMBA by the way.
[02:56] <tmkt> tgm4883: its in an odd dir
[02:56] <tgm4883> tmkt, what dir
[03:01] <Thelasko> anybody have a clue why I can't access my mythtv machine via SAMBA?
[03:03] <tmkt> in docs
[03:04] <tmkt>  /usrshare/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/imports/mirobridge
[03:09] <rhpot1991> tmkt: thats normal
[03:09] <rhpot1991> contrib is pulled from upstream
[03:09] <tmkt> not very intuitive though..to look for scripts in a doc dir
[03:09] <tmkt> assumed they might have been man pages for mirobridge
[03:09] <tmkt> until i went and checked them out
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest33> Thelasko..did you turn on Samba in the Mythbuntu Control Center?
[03:18] <Thelasko> yup
[03:21] <MythbuntuGuest33> did you set sharing for any folders?
[03:21] <Thelasko> yeah
[03:21] <Thelasko> it's set automatically
[03:22] <MythbuntuGuest33> that's all I had to do
[03:22] <MythbuntuGuest33> mine wasn't enabled and I had fresh install
[03:22] <MythbuntuGuest33> had to go to System->Shared Folders to turn on the share
[03:23] <Thelasko> *checks to see if missed something obvious*
[03:23] <Thelasko> nope
[03:24] <Thelasko> I'm trying to share /var/lib/mythtv/music
[03:24] <Thelasko> maybe it's my router!
[03:26] <Thelasko> no, not my router
[03:26] <Thelasko> everything says it's shared
[03:27] <Thelasko> I look at my network from another computer and it's there
[03:27] <Thelasko> but when I click on it I get "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[03:27] <MythbuntuGuest33> sorry..I didn't have that problem..I can see flac files from two cd's I imported earlier..but I did have to turn on share for music folder
[03:29] <Thelasko> I can't go the other way either
[03:38] <Thelasko> apparmor?
[03:41] <Thelasko> I give up for the night
[03:57] <rhpot1991> This may be helpful if anyone is having issues with their Antec Fusion's VFD: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/6
[06:26] <MythbuntuGuest15> I have new 9.10 install and everything is working except my videos won't play from ISO unless I use the VLC player or the disc is still in the dvdrom tray
[06:28] <superm1> !mythvideo
[06:28] <Zinn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythVideo
[06:28] <superm1> hm that's not the page
[06:28] <superm1> !iso
[06:28] <Zinn> Storage Groups are a streaming method of transmitting material to a frontend, meaning they don't provide block-level access to the file in question. An ISO is a disk image, and libdvdnav/libdvdcss, the libraries used to view DVDs/DVD images, requires block-level access. Upstream has a plan to simulate a block device across the network using NBD for .23. See http:
[06:28] <MythbuntuGuest15> so in other words until .23 keep using VLC?
[06:29] <MythbuntuGuest15> would mora bridge be a work around for this?
[06:37] <rhpot1991> hmmm crap why'd that get cut off
[06:38] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest15: one second
[06:39] <rhpot1991> !help
[06:39] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[06:40] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest15: setup>media>video>general
[06:40] <rhpot1991> "Directories that hold videos"
[06:40] <rhpot1991> point that at your ISOs
[06:40] <rhpot1991> they will work then
[06:40] <rhpot1991> so what many of us do is make a /var/lib/mythtv/ISO
[06:40] <rhpot1991> to keep isos, and register that there
[06:40] <rhpot1991> and then use /var/lib/mythtv/videos for non ISOs
[06:41] <MythbuntuGuest15> then they will work fine?
[06:42] <rhpot1991> yep :)
[06:42] <MythbuntuGuest15> seems too easy
[06:47] <MythbuntuGuest15> weird..won't let me build directory ISO in /var/lib/mythtv
[06:48] <hobiga> with 0.22 has anyone noticed their iso playing back fast when using the internal player in mythvideo?
[06:49] <rhpot1991> hobiga: yes, I noticed that, I forget how I fixed it
[06:49] <rhpot1991> paused it or something and it was fine
[06:49] <rhpot1991> hobiga: and I only noticed it once in maybe 10 playbacks
[06:50] <hobiga> yeah I did that as well...worked for one...tried again last night and no matter what I did pause/rewind a bit it always started playing fast again
[06:50] <hobiga> seems to be pretty consitent for me
[06:50] <rhpot1991> hobiga: only on a certain ISO?
[06:51] <hobiga> happens on most
[06:51] <hobiga> however a rewind fixes it usually
[06:51] <hobiga> only one that wouldn't stop playing fast after a rewind
[06:52] <hobiga> and it actually ended up crashing the frontend
[06:53] <hobiga> I would stick with mplayer but lack of menu support is limiting
[06:54] <hobiga> I know I saw a vlc with mythvideo integration howto somewhere maybe I'll give that a shot
[06:57] <rhpot1991> xine has good menu support
[06:57] <rhpot1991> I used to use it in past releases
[06:58] <rhpot1991> fair warning if you go with an external player you lose storage group support
[06:58] <rhpot1991> might be better to research the issue with fast playback some more
[06:58] <hobiga> oh maybe I'll give xine a try then
[06:59] <hobiga> yeah iso's don't work with storage groups right now anyways
[07:00] <rhpot1991> ya, but other stuff does
[07:00] <rhpot1991> you could just do ISOs in xine and everything else in internal player
[07:00] <rhpot1991> I prefer the "look & feel" of the internal player though
[07:00] <hobiga> yeah I do as well...
[07:01] <hobiga> if I was to have xine play just iso's would I would need to define two directories for mythvideo one that is mapped to a storage group an one for the frontend that would just have the iso's?
[07:02] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest15: did you follow those directions yet, wondering if you hit any snags or whatnot
[07:03] <rhpot1991> hobiga: give me one minute and I'll have a writeup on it that you can read over
[07:03] <MythbuntuGuest15> having issues creating the ISO dir in /var/lib/mythtv..won't let me add or change permissions to add
[07:04] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest15: sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /var/lib/mythtv/ISO
[07:04] <rhpot1991> and sudo chmod 775 /var/lib/mythtv/ISO
[07:06] <rhpot1991> hobiga: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/7
[07:07] <hobiga> awesome..thx I will let you know how I make out.
[07:07] <rhpot1991> still tweaking that some, but it will give you an idea
[07:13] <MythbuntuGuest15> moving some iso's over now to test
[07:18] <MythbuntuGuest15> so in the video target will I put /var/lib/mythtv/videos:/var/lib/mythtv/ISO?
[07:18] <rhpot1991> iso | MythbuntuGuest15
[07:18] <rhpot1991> !iso | MythbuntuGuest15
[07:18] <Zinn> MythbuntuGuest15: Storage Groups are a streaming method of transmitting material to a frontend, meaning they don't provide block-level access to the file in question. An ISO is a disk image, and requires block-level access. Upstream has a plan to simulate a block device across the network using NBD for 0.23. Until then you can use the following workaround: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/7
[07:24] <MythbuntuGuest15> sweet..working..thanks guys
[07:25] <MythbuntuGuest15> soon as I get my IR or iPod control working tomorrow I'll be in business
[07:25] <MythbuntuGuest15> have a good night
[13:58] <flodin> hi, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 but now mythtv is no longer working because of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/439163
[13:59] <flodin> so i wanted to downgrade again and restore my database backup until the bug has been resolved, but now 9.04 is no longer available on mythbuntu.org
[13:59] <flodin> what do I do?
[14:00] <flodin> I assume that if I downgrade to 8.10 which is available, then my database backup will have a version number that is too high
[14:23] <mrand> flodin: I might be wrong, but I don't believe there were any database changes between 8.10 and 9.04.  But you shouldn't have to drop all the way back to 8.10: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.04/release/
[14:31] <flodin> ah, thank you
[18:17] <Thelasko> any idea why Mythtv doesn't recognize a file I put in /var/lib/mythtv/videos?
[18:21] <rhpot1991> Thelasko: did you "scan for changes" ?
[18:22] <rhpot1991> hit m or menu on your remote and it should be the first option there
[18:28] <Thelasko> all m gets me is "about" and "cancel"
[18:31] <Thelasko> ah, I have to hit m in the video menu
[18:31] <Thelasko> got it!
[18:33] <Thelasko> Thanks
[20:22] <darthanubis> I forget the location to tell mythtv how much disk space to leave free?
[20:24] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: settings general I think
[20:24] <darthanubis> can I get to it from mythweb?
[20:26] <darthanubis> AutoExpireExtraSpace?
[20:31] <Thelasko> what command do you use to bring up recovery mode at startup?
[20:31] <Thelasko> F2?
[20:33] <Thelasko> nevermind...
[21:46] <Thelasko> anybody know the difference between the radeon and the ATI driver?
[22:54] <Thelasko> wow, after a day and a half of hacking this works really well!
[22:58] <Thelasko> Thanks everyone!