[00:50] <genii> Someone have a quick link or so to some channel operator aliases for Quassel? Jussi swapped the core over to one which my old ones aren't on and the file I recorded them in previously got wiped out during a 9.10 alpha disaster. eg: bounce username withcomment, devoice username, ban username withcomment               etc
[02:26] <funkyHat> Could someone pop in to #ubuntu-offtopic quickly please :)
[02:27] <funkyHat> Oh he's left now
[02:28] <funkyHat> Was FucOff
[03:16] <genii> Meh
[03:17] <genii> I'd kick Spurs_ but I have to type all the commands out manually right now
[05:08] <mneptok> genii: so?
[05:13] <Flannel> mneptok: by manually, he means dip switches.
[05:35] <bazhang> jimmy_ from yesterday (lolnub) in -ot and #u
[06:54] <dholbach> buon giorno!
[06:55] <MenZa> giorno, dholbach?
[06:56] <MenZa> I'd hope that's not what you mean :P
[06:56] <MenZa> Hm.
[06:56] <MenZa> For some reason, I thought 'giorno' was night.
[06:56] <MenZa> Nevermind.
[07:13] <jussi01> Nalioth, could you forward #ubuntu-fluxbox to #fluxbuntu (as is the case with mythbuntu and ubuntu studio).
[07:14] <nalioth> will do
[07:16] <mneptok> MenZa: "notte"
[07:19] <MenZa> mneptok: aha.
[07:19] <nalioth> jussi01: done done done
[08:43] <Tm_T> hi kids
[08:44] <Tm_T> I really wonder why there's weekly DCC send of file irc.hackerthreads.org#hackerthreads in #u
[08:44] <MenZa> ...ther eis? o_O
[08:44] <MenZa> there is*
[08:44] <Flannel> Tm_T: Everyone who's anyone does it!
[08:46] <Tm_T> MenZa: seems so, sometimes several times a week
[08:46] <MenZa> hmm
[08:52] <ikonia> every morning almost
[08:55] <Tm_T> ah, then I'm enough away from the channel to not notice it frequently
[08:58] <MenZa> he was fun :(
[12:31] <tsimpson> jussi01: could you ask someone about the lack of track information in the csv for uds-l, and what channel (if any) there is for "Grand Ballroom"?
[12:32] <tsimpson> jussi01: also about the audio feed URIs (and their formats). I'm assuming it's based on the channel name at the moment
[13:00] <Pici> maco: congrats
[13:00] <maco> thanks :)
[13:00] <MenZa> con..grats?
[13:01] <MenZa> ooooh
[13:01]  * MenZa read -meeting
[13:01] <MenZa> Congrats maco :D
[13:02] <maco> thanks MenZa
[13:51] <MenZa> Heads-up in #ubuntu
[13:51] <MenZa> (Pr0n, Zero_Fear)
[13:51] <MenZa> Zero-Fear*
[13:54]  * jpds hugs the MenZa.
[13:54]  * MenZa licks jpds 
[14:10] <Doorman352> whats the deal with this router issue.
[14:11] <Doorman352> Hello
[14:11] <Doorman352> is there an operator in here?
[14:12] <Tm_T> Doorman352: hi, and patience
[14:16] <MenZa> Doorman352: You mean the DCC 'splot?
[14:17] <MenZa> 'sploit*
[14:17] <Doorman352> ?
[14:17] <MenZa> hold on
[14:17] <MenZa> Doorman352:
[14:17] <MenZa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[14:18] <Doorman352> I was kicked out t=of the #ubuntu channel because my router is Buggy? What kind of deal are you talking about?
[14:18] <Doorman352> Theres nothing wrong with my firewall
[14:18] <MenZa> The page should outline what the issue is.
[14:18] <MenZa> Chances are there is a problem with your router's firmware.
[14:18] <Doorman352> It makes no sense because it has not details. What firmware?
[14:19] <MenZa> The firmware your router uses.
[14:19] <Doorman352> Which version do I have to have to satisfy you....
[14:19] <Doorman352> and why would my firewall care about irc channels?
[14:20] <MenZa> See, it works like this: A user sends a DCC request (whose specifics I'm not sure of) to you - i.e. a packet. Your router, which would optimally send this package to your PC, sees it as being mysterious, and terminates the connection, making you lose your internet access.
[14:21] <MenZa> So, to avoid some idiot joining #ubuntu and sending this request to everyone and have half the people in there disconnect, we try to inform you that there may be a problem with your router's firmware.
[14:21] <Pici> The firmware upgrade may not fix the issue. connecting to irc using a port other than 6667, such as 8001,  which freenode supports, will fixit.
[14:21] <Pici> or at least to the extent that the exploit will not trigger a disconnect if you use that port.
[14:22] <MenZa> Eh, what Pici said.
[14:22] <Doorman352> So instead of posting a message you kick me out, ban me, and force me in here so you can sell me new equipment? What kind of scam are you pulling?
[14:22] <Pici> Doorman352: We're not selling you anything...
[14:22] <MenZa> ...
[14:22] <Tm_T> Doorman352: who did kick you out?
[14:22] <Doorman352> Your telling my equipment is bad
[14:22] <bazhang> floodbot
[14:22] <MenZa> Correct.
[14:22] <Tm_T> bazhang: it did kick? or just ban?
[14:23] <Doorman352> your channel bots kicked me out last night with your message about my buggy router
[14:23] <Pici> Tm_T: It banforwards affected users to #ubuntu-read-topic
[14:23] <bazhang> Tm_T, banned but they quit
[14:23] <MenZa> Doorman352: Try connecting to freenode on port 8001 instead. That should fix the issue.
[14:23] <Tm_T> so bot didn't kick, nor did anyone of us
[14:23] <Pici> Tm_T: Yes, it did.
[14:23] <Pici> This is intended behavior.
[14:23] <Tm_T> Pici: ok then
[14:23] <bazhang> the exploit had them quit
[14:23] <Pici> !exploit
[14:24] <Tm_T> Pici: yes, bot bans, but does it kick?
[14:24] <Pici> Tm_T: yes
[14:24] <Tm_T> ok
[14:24] <Tm_T> that's all I'm asking
[14:24] <Doorman352> I was in there and then I was removed and banned
[14:24] <Pici> Well, technically I think its a remove.
[14:24] <bazhang> right
[14:24] <Doorman352> whatever
[14:24] <bazhang> Doorman352, so fix the connection port and you're good to go
[14:24] <MenZa> Doorman352: So re-connect on the port in question and it'll solve it.
[14:25] <bazhang> jinx
[14:25] <MenZa> no u
[14:25] <Doorman352> what does 8001 do that 6667 doesnt
[14:25] <MenZa> Doorman352: they're just different ports. the DCC exploint can, apparently, only take place on port 6667.
[14:25] <Pici> MenZa: not exactly.
[14:25] <MenZa> exploit*
[14:25] <MenZa> Or, the router is just stupid.
[14:25]  * MenZa shrugs.
[14:26] <Pici> pretty much.
[14:26] <Doorman352> what?
[14:26] <MenZa> I have no idea what the specifics of the bug are, but as long as it's solved, it's solved.
[14:26] <MenZa> Doorman352: On port 8001 you can do exactly what you've been able to on port 6667.
[14:26] <MenZa> Nothing will be different, except for the port you're connecting to.
[14:26] <jussi01> if you read the links on the exploit page for more info
[14:27] <bazhang> happened to me when I first joined #ubuntu
[14:27] <Pici> Doorman352: Your router/firewall will only be triggered by the exploit on port 6667, since this is traditionally the port for IRC.
[14:27] <Doorman352> how do i change ports then?
[14:27] <MenZa> Konversation wizards, this is your time to shine.
[14:28] <MenZa> Doorman352: File -> Server List
[14:28] <MenZa> You should be able to see Freenode
[14:28] <Pici> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit#Fix%202:%20Change%20Port has a list for popular clients
[14:28] <Doorman352> ok
[14:28] <Pici> s/list/instructions/
[14:29] <MenZa> Or, check out the above link :)
[14:29] <Doorman352> you have the nerver to tell me to RTFM when im in channels trying to learn this?
[14:29] <MenZa> Doorman352: You should watch your attitude. We're only trying to be helpful.
[14:30] <MenZa> !attitude
[14:30] <Doorman352> you kicked me out and I didnt do anything wrong, then you play high and mighty with me..... who has attitude. I am angry about being treated this way.
[14:30] <MenZa> Doorman352: Access to the #ubuntu IRC channels is not a right, it's a privilege. We're more than happy to help facilitate this for you, but at least try to be cooperative.
[14:31] <Doorman352> I would like to go on about my business but Im here trying to get through, while 3 of you pelt me with answers and dont agree
[14:31] <MenZa> We're all volunteers. You're not paying for a product. We're users, just like yourself.
[14:31] <MenZa> We've handed you the solution to your problem, you should be able to make your way to #ubuntu from here.
[14:32] <Doorman352> nope still cant go there
[14:32] <MenZa> You'll need to re-connect.
[14:33] <MenZa> Currently, you're still connected on port 6667.
[14:33] <Doorman352> how do i change the channel?
[14:33] <MenZa> well, first of all, disconnect, then re-connect. then you want to join #ubuntu-read-topic (/join #ubuntu-read-topic) and type 'test me'. then, it should let you back into #ubuntu.
[14:34] <Doorman352> i haven done anything yet, as I dont know how to change the channel.
[14:34] <MenZa> You have changed the port, as per on the page above?
[14:35] <bazhang> Doorman352, quit Konversation set the correct port, then reconnect and follow MenZa 's instructions above
[14:35] <Doorman352> What? You had me open File-Server list and then pici said to RTM
[14:35] <MenZa> Doorman352: See the link.
[14:35] <MenZa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit#Fix%202:%20Change%20Port
[14:36] <Doorman352> theres no channel number on that window....
[14:36] <bazhang> Konversation users can go to File -> Server list -> Edit, click on the server name (e.g. irc.ubuntu.com), click on Edit, and change the port from 6667 to 8001.
[14:36] <bazhang> Doorman352, ^^
[14:37] <Doorman352> there is no port number anywher, it has my name and mu nickname
[14:38] <MenZa> Well, there's a graphical walk-through to that particular part of the client here: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/serverlist.html
[14:39] <bazhang> nice catch MenZa
[14:39] <MenZa> thankye, bazhang
[14:39] <bazhang> Doorman352, near the bottom of the above link ^^
[14:41] <Pici> Doorman352: I only pointed you there because I wasn't sure what irc client you were using.
[14:41] <MenZa> I went for the rude approach and /CTCP VERSION'ed.
[14:42] <Doorman352> OK, I don know what Im supposed to do to fix this problem you say I have. I am not an experienced LINUX user, hence why Im here. You folks pulled me out and dropped me here and I dont know what to do to fix it. I have asked, and you chastized me about my attitude. you post links that dont look like my screens and I still ask for help. 3 on 1 isnt a good tactic to help anyone so somebody tell me what I have to do to go back to the
[14:42] <Doorman352> channel and learn how to use these programs, please.
[14:42] <tsimpson> we forward people to #ubuntu-read-topic when they are susceptible to the exploit so they can become aware of the issue and fix it, as with fewer people vulnerable it becomes less "fun" for the troll to preform the exploit. that's why you were kicked automatically
[14:42] <Doorman352> a forth
[14:43] <MenZa> Doorman352: Look at your list of networks. You've found freenode, aye?
[14:43] <tsimpson> if we didn't ask people to fix the issue, there would be major disruption to the channel every time a troll decided to exploit anyone
[14:43] <Doorman352> yep
[14:43] <MenZa> Press the 'Edit' button next to your Servers, not the one at the top where it says 'Identity'
[14:43] <Doorman352> click edit and another window opens
[14:43] <MenZa> Do describe that window for me. I'm unfamiliar with Konversation, as I don't use it myself. I'll try my best to guide you through it, though.
[14:44] <Doorman352> yep and it shows my name, nickname, and other identity related info.
[14:44] <tsimpson> from Konversation, Edit -> Server List, select the network and click the "Edit" button
[14:44] <MenZa> Are you able to give me a screenshot of the parent window?
[14:44] <MenZa> tsimpson: He's attempted that.
[14:44] <tsimpson> then click on the entry in the "Server" section
[14:44] <Doorman352> how in ubuntu?
[14:45] <tsimpson> then the "Edit" button to the *Right*
[14:45] <MenZa> Doorman352: Print Screen.
[14:45] <tsimpson> not on the top
[14:45] <MenZa> Sounds like tsimpson might have it there
[14:45] <tsimpson> or underneath (in KDE4)
[14:45] <Doorman352> which person am I following?
[14:45] <tsimpson> there will be 3 editable fields there "Server", "Port" and "Password", change "Port" to "8001"
[14:46] <MenZa> Doorman352: tsimpson right now. He's a KDE user, so will know more about Konversation than me.
[14:47] <Doorman352> there is no edit button on the right except at the top.
[14:48] <tsimpson> under the "Servers" list
[14:48] <Doorman352> Will changing this port number create problems for the other schannels I use?
[14:48] <MenZa> No.
[14:48] <Doorman352> theres no edit button on the right, there is a greyed out one on the left side.
[14:49] <MenZa> You need to select the server (i.e., click it), it sounds like.
[14:50] <Doorman352> Which one of the two do I click?
[14:50] <tsimpson> you'll want to change both
[14:51] <tsimpson> so it'll be like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimpson/snap4.jpg
[14:52] <Doorman352> ok, mine deffinately does not look like that.
[14:52] <tsimpson> are you using the KDE3 or KDE4 version?
[14:52] <MenZa> 1.1, so KDE 3.
[14:52] <Doorman352> iḿ using ubuntu and I tried every irc client i could to find one that i could make work.
[14:53] <tsimpson> then the last window will look the same
[14:53] <Doorman352> still looking for it.
[14:55] <Doorman352> forget it, ubuntu is not worth this embarassement and grief...... Ill stick with the other channels I use, unles ill get kicked/banned from them too
[14:55] <tsimpson> it should show you how here: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/serverlist.html#serverlist-addnetwork
[14:56] <MenZa> Doorman352: We've only tried to be helpful. You've not been very cooperative.
[14:56] <MenZa> !guidelines > Doorman352
[14:56] <MenZa> Have a look at those. It sounds like you need to refresh your memory about them.
[14:56] <tsimpson> those docs are for the KDE3 version, which you have
[14:56] <Doorman352> my screen does not look like that.
[14:57] <bazhang> Doorman352, what version of ubuntu are you using
[14:58] <Doorman352> I dont remeber either 8.04 or 9.04
[14:58] <bazhang> ok
[14:59] <Doorman352> ubottu: You really going to lecture me on behaviour when I did nothing wrong and did not know how to fix this issue and 4 ops gang up on me with conflicting info and you have the nerver to say I am acting improperly.....
[14:59] <Doorman352> or whomever is impersonating the bot.
[15:00] <Doorman352> I was doing just fine on my own before this.
[15:00] <MenZa> Doorman352: Noone's impersonating any bot. I merely had the bot send you the IRC guidelines to look at once you've resolved your issue.
[15:00] <Doorman352> and I know that how?
[15:00] <MenZa> 2009-11-13 14:55:59 UTC] <+MenZa> !guidelines > Doorman352
[15:00] <MenZa> [2009-11-13 14:56:00 UTC] < ubottu> Doorman352, please see my private message
[15:01] <Doorman352> ok guys, you got me again and shown how ignorant i am....
[15:01] <MenZa> Noone's accusing anyone of being ignorant.
[15:03] <Doorman352> is there a single operator I can e-mail about this experience and make a complaint to. I dont like the way Ive been treated.
[15:03] <MenZa> !appeals
[15:03] <MenZa> Certainly, Doorman352. See above ^
[15:04] <Doorman352> again with the snappy links... can someone just give me an e-mail address so I can leave here and quit this humiliation? PLEAE.
[15:04] <jussi01> ScottK: hi, can we sort something for you?
[15:04] <ScottK> jussi01: I was just looking for nalioth or Pricey to ask about an increased channel limit during UDS.
[15:05] <tsimpson> Doorman352: I've installed the same version as you, it's Alt->F2, then click "Edit" on the right, then select one of the entries under "Servers" and click the "Edit" button underneath that list
[15:05] <tsimpson> that will give you the edit window
[15:05] <jpds> Pici: What was wrong with -devel-summit?
[15:05] <jussi01> jpds: didnt fit the naming scheme. :)
[15:06] <Pici> jpds: It didn't jive with the naming we're using.
[15:06] <jpds> naming scheme?
[15:06] <jpds> mdz registered the channel, just saying.
[15:06] <Pici> For the other #ubuntu-uds-* channels.
[15:06] <Doorman352> alt-f2 brings up a window that says -run application-
[15:06] <jussi01> ScottK: probably better to hang in #ubuntu-irc for them -they both should be there.
[15:06] <jpds> Ah, crikey.
[15:06] <ScottK> jussi01: Thanks.
[15:07] <tsimpson> Doorman352: sorry, not Alt-F2, just F2
[15:07] <tsimpson> Doorman352: or "File->Server List"
[15:07] <tsimpson> same thing
[15:07] <Tm_T> gone already
[15:07] <bazhang> he quit
[15:07] <MenZa> What was that about?
[15:07] <MenZa> O_o
[15:07] <tsimpson> fine
[15:07] <Pici> I guess we could have forwarded in the other direction, but its already done.
[15:07]  * tsimpson stops trying to help people
[15:07]  * Pici shrugs
[15:07] <Tm_T> tsimpson: no you don't
[15:07] <MenZa> tsimpson: I'll give you massive kudos for being dedicated enough to install 1.1 :p
[15:08] <bazhang> hehe
[15:08] <MenZa> I wasn't in a very helpful mood after being verbally abused, but I went along as far as I was able to.
[15:08] <tsimpson> I thought I had it installed already, but couldn't find it
[15:08] <tsimpson> so I just grabbed it from the archive
[15:08] <tsimpson> and that konversation doc page is horribly out of date
[15:08] <MenZa> Yes, yes it is
[15:08] <tsimpson> even for the KDE3 version
[15:09] <MenZa> I was looking at it earlier
[15:09] <tsimpson> fwiw, the KDE4 and KDE3 version have the same look, just with KDE4 style/widgets. the image I posted is what he'd have seen, but in a KDE3 style
[15:10] <MenZa> hmm
[15:12] <tsimpson> proof: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimpson/snap5.jpg
[15:13] <bazhang> not that big of a difference really
[15:14] <tsimpson> mostly icons and colour
[15:15] <Tm_T> both depends on what style you're using etc
[15:30] <bazhang> wonder if Younder is really robg
[17:23] <Doorman352> Now what hurdle must I leap over oh great and wise OPS?
[17:26] <Pici> Doorman352: Um.  You left here while we were giving you instructions on how to change the port.
[17:27] <Doorman352> I left because people were abusing me and posting conflicting and wronf information. I want to be left alone, and returned to the channel were I was. I didn run any exploit, nor did I violate any terms of use. I did nothing wrong.
[17:29] <Doorman352> When I got here and was ganged up on, I have every right to be upset with the way I was treated, and then somebody starts playing behavior scripts..... Thats wrong.
[17:30] <Pici> Doorman352: I'm sorry if you think that you feel you were ganged up on.  None of us had that intention, we were all just trying to help and to explain the situation.
[17:30] <Doorman352> NO, you were 4 on 1 with scripts and posts and links and I asked for help and you all continued to pay and show off.
[17:30] <Doorman352> play
[17:31] <Doorman352> you are gods, ok.... now make this right and let me go.
[17:31] <maco> i think the "scripts and posts and links" were an attempt at giving the help you asked for
[17:31] <maco> (perhaps a poorly exectued attempt...)
[17:32] <Doorman352> i find none of this humerous. Itś insulting and humilating to be treated that way.
[17:33] <Doorman352> So I ask again, what must I now do to be let back into the channel, for my crime of owning a Linksys router and being new to LINUX.
[17:35] <Doorman352> So before it was 4+ on 1, now nobody will lift the ban?
[17:37] <Doorman352> Who is the POC for this channel? Whom can I contact to file a complaint about this treatment?
[17:38] <jussi01> Doorman352: if you read the links given, they explain the answers to yourquestions.
[17:38] <jussi01> Doorman352: so first, look here to fix your issue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[17:38] <Doorman352> another voice from on hihg, what links.... Nobody posted any links here
[17:39] <jussi01> Doorman352: Im just here to help.
[17:39] <Doorman352> Iḿ on port 8001 which you all said was enough...
[17:39] <jussi01> Doorman352: then join #ubuntu-read-topic and read the topic :)
[17:40] <Doorman352> Your router is buggy 1) Please follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to FIX it (yes, it can be fixed) 2) after carrying out those instructions please type « test me » and wait few minutes | if this fails, type « /join #ubuntu-ops » to be tested manually".
[17:40] <Doorman352> ok we can now all see it together......
[17:40] <jussi01> Doorman352: so have you tried typing test me?
[17:42] <jussi01> Doorman352: there, that wasnt so hard was it? :)
[17:43] <jussi01> Doorman352: Now then, is there anything else I or the other ops can help you with?
[17:44] <Doorman352> I still want a POC to make a complaint, and please drop your attitude.... ok you all started this I was minding my own business for weeks on theat channel.
[17:46] <maco> Doorman352: its not your fault. some people are jerks and try to exploit your router. unfortunately, we all have to deal with those people being jerks
[17:46] <Pici> Doorman352:
[17:46] <Pici> 12:44:34 <?dmc123> fahadsadah, realtek semiconductor
[17:46] <Pici> er
[17:46] <Pici> wrong paste.
[17:46] <Doorman352> But HOW I was trated here is your responsibility.......
[17:46] <Doorman352> treated
[17:47] <Pici> Doorman352: You can email irc-council@lists.ubuntu.com if you wish.  Thats a private list. More information available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess
[17:48] <Doorman352> And this irc-council oversees the ops in this channel?
[17:50] <Pici> Doorman352: Essentially. They are the governing body of the Ubuntu IRC channels, to whom any issues that cannot be solved in this channel should go to.
[17:50] <maco> s/to.$//
[17:51] <Doorman352> For other issues, a meeting will be scheduled where two independent people from the dispute resolution team can weigh in on the issue. How do we start this meeting?
[17:53] <Pici> Doorman352: I'm actually not sure. Let me see if I can find that out for you.
[17:54] <Doorman352> thank you, just want to make sure Iḿ following the rules and steps in your post, says to have this meeting before e-mailing the list.
[17:57] <Pici> Doorman352: Since you're already in this channel, I don't think you need to worry about that step. Just go ahead and email the irccouncil if you feel the need to do so.
[17:59] <Doorman352> sorry? Id like to have my issue discussed in the manor provided to me by your link, so please contact the independent people from the dispute resolution team so I can discuss my concerns.
[18:02] <jussi01> Doorman352: could you wait a moment while we check into this?
[18:02] <Doorman352> Iĺl wait as long as I have to, to make this never happens to another user.
[18:22] <jussi01> Doorman352: please join #ubuntu-irc-council where some independant members await you. Please state your case clearly and concisely, and remember to read the topic :)
[18:26] <MenZa> For the record, if I'm needed, I will be available for another 30 or so odd minutes.
[18:47] <maco> Burning_Aces is the nick
[18:48] <Pici> maco: The bots banned and freenode staff have already k-lined it
[18:48] <maco> ohok
[18:54] <nalioth> maco: those folks generally don't last much longer than any of their victims
[18:54] <maco> fairnuff
[19:01] <jussi01> davidboy: hi
[19:09] <LjL> you should probably tell digitalstimulus to get his exploitable router fixed; the first time he got disconnected, the bots couldn't ban him because the banlist was full, so now they don't ban him, but he's affected
[20:12] <nixternal> Doorman352: didn't get to say "have a great weekend" before you left
[20:13] <Doorman352> you too!
[20:38] <nixternal> hey, everyone who was assisting Doorman earlier, I think you all kept some very level heads...After working with him for the past hour or so, it seems everything has been worked out, and I am sure you will get some more info from the IRCC about what all was discussed
[20:38] <nixternal> great job on that one
[20:39] <nixternal> on that note...it is time for chicken noodle soup or something...I feel like junk right now
[20:41] <mneptok> nixternal: i've been talking with him in PM for ~20 minutes.
[20:45] <MenZa> nixternal: I'm glad it worked out.
[20:46] <MenZa> !ops | Guess what's full
[20:47] <nixternal> heh, that list needs to be cleaned up
[20:48] <nixternal> imbrandon can get removed...is hobbsee still around? madpilot?
[20:50] <Tm_T> clad I'm not in that list, even when I'm op
[20:50] <jussi01> cripes, about half that list can go...
[20:50]  * jussi01 adds Tm_T
[20:51]  * Tm_T figured some time ago that hilighting 1ops alone is enough
[20:51] <MenZa> I think anything over six months old can probably go
[20:51] <Flannel> nixternal: Madpilot is, Hobbsee is, but doesn't do #ubuntu
[20:52] <Pici> Who is CarlK?
[20:53] <MenZa> CarlFK?
[20:53]  * Pici shrugs
[20:53] <nixternal> is there docs for doing this irc op type stuff? been a while since I really did anything other than ban someone :)  I could use a nice refresher
[20:53] <jussi01_> nixternal: yeah, just a sec
[20:54] <Pici> nixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[20:54] <jussi01_> nixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[20:54] <jussi01_> heh
[20:54] <Pici> huzzah
[20:54] <MenZa> Hm, perhaps we should remove all the older bans that forward to #ubuntu-read-topic?
[20:54] <Pici> There shouldn't really be any old ones.  The floodbots remove them after a certain amount of time.
[20:54] <MenZa> hmm
[20:55] <MenZa> [2009-11-13 20:54:50 UTC] *** 3 - #ubuntu: ban krazed_!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic [by FloodBot2!i=nalioth@ubuntu/bot/floodbot, 361482 secs ago]
[20:55] <MenZa> :P
[20:55] <MenZa> that's only four days, hm.
[20:55] <Pici> The max is 14 days iirc.
[20:56] <MenZa> I see.
[20:56] <Pici> Also, there are a lot of mutes on the banlist.
[20:56] <MenZa> Aye.
[20:56] <Tm_T> nixternal: oh, welcome back to hussle
[20:56] <MenZa> I was considering if it would be an idea to do a 'sprint' at some point.
[20:56] <MenZa> Check every entry in bantracker, see if it's worth keeping.
[20:56] <MenZa> Manual labour like hell, but the banlist filling up every two days is not a viable solution, imo.
[20:58] <Pici> MenZa: Actually.... I may be able to script something to get the data
[21:00] <MenZa> Pici: I have an idea as to how the data could be handled.
[21:07] <guntbert> Hi, balzac in ubuntu seems a bit "strange" in his advice, maybe he is teasing people
[21:09] <Flannel> guntbert: I'll keep an eye on him, thanks
[21:09] <guntbert> Flannel: I just saw you there - thx
[21:10] <MenZa> Pici: http://lassehavelund.com/banlist.html
[21:10] <nalioth> good ol' ballsac
[21:11] <MenZa> Pici: You get the idea.
[21:12] <MenZa> The markup is ugly and unsemantic and everything that goes with it.
[21:30] <Pricey> Ahem!! - To all ops. "Ubuntu" doesn't not manage this network. If someone wants a network privilege, as has happenned today, #ubuntu-irc is NOT the place for them. For network stuff, #freenode
[21:32] <Flannel> Pricey: you sure it happened in -irc?
[21:33] <Flannel> I suppose it's not important
[21:33] <jussi01> Flannel: it did
[21:33] <jussi01> and he is right, its my fault.
[21:34] <Pricey> (that's just me speaking, not freenode)
[21:35] <jussi01> Pricey: you are correct though, I should have referred him to #freenode.
[21:35] <Flannel> Howdy ianto, how can we help you today?
[21:36] <ianto> Flannel: Hello there,  I've addressed an issue in #ubuntu-irc,  if you wish I can copy and paste it here if you would like or as I see you are already there you can just read from there? :)
[21:37] <jussi01> ianto: wait, I had a read fail. which channel is this concerning?
[21:37] <ianto> jussi01: The primary concern of mine is #ubuntu-cym but a few moments ago I saw the same user doing something similar in -uk which I am not an op for
[21:38] <jussi01> ianto: Ok, Im very sorry to mess you around, this is an #ubuntu-irc issue.
[21:39] <ianto> Haha okay no problem :)
[21:39] <jussi01> ianto: see you back there :)
[22:53] <arand> I think it might be appropriate to warn/remove PeterBendtsen from #ubuntu ...
[22:53] <jpds> Watching.
[22:54] <jpds> Gone.
[22:55] <jussi01> jpds: why?
[22:55] <jpds> jussi01: Read his pervious messages.
[22:55] <jussi01> jpds: also, have you PM'ed him to try sort it out?
[22:55] <jpds> 22:48:32 < ~PeterBendtsen> arand: i dont visit https links...they are insecure
[22:56] <jpds> 22:55:52 <jpds> Yeah, well, 22:48:32 < ~PeterBendtsen> arand: i dont visit https links...they are insecure
[22:56] <jpds> 22:55:59 <jpds> Looks more like trolling.
[22:56] <jpds> jussi01: Kind of.
[22:56] <jpds> 22:56:05 <~PeterBendtsen> no im just stupid!
[22:56] <jussi01> fair enough.
[22:57] <arand> ok, thanks.
[22:57] <jpds> 22:56:38 <~PeterBendtsen> thats why i use ubuntu
[22:57] <jpds> 22:56:58 <~PeterBendtsen> i dont use it to troubleshoot, thats for sure
[22:57]  * jpds rolls eyes.