[00:07] <gl_> Guest20865: do you mean a "servicemenu"?
[00:13] <Guest20865> gl_ dunno what it's called. I know in gnome, nautilus calles it nautlis actions menu or so
[00:14] <Guest20865> basically: righ click on a file and where you see the 'cut', 'copy', 'properties', ...  - have another entry appear called "really delete"
[00:15] <gl_> yes, I think they are called so. Not sure in kde4, but they were in kde 3.5
[00:15] <Guest20865> sure I'm just to blind to find it
[00:15] <gl_> sorry I am in suse now...
[00:15] <Guest20865> ok
[00:15] <Guest20865> no problem
[00:15] <Guest20865> thanx anyway
[00:16] <gl_> I run kubuntu in an asus eee
[00:16] <gl_> no problem!
[00:16] <Guest20865> :-)
[00:16] <maco> ...suse has kde4 too
[00:16] <maco> should work pretty much the same
[00:17] <gl_> sure but the .kde folder is called .kde4 so it is not exactly the same the path
[00:22] <gl_> maybe this is it? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE4-servicemenus?content=80131
[00:25] <Guest20865> thx, will try it
[00:26] <gl_> actually it is a script that converts 3.5 sm into 4.x
[00:26] <gl_> not sure it is what you were looking for...
[00:27] <Guest20865> i just found out that. no, it's not what i was looking 4
[00:27] <Guest20865> I want to adjust my righ-click menu
[00:28] <gl_> but those functions are the servicemenu... you need to know how to write those. There is no setting as far as I know
[00:28] <gl_> I mean there is no gui for that except showing "Delete" instead of "Move to wastebin"
[00:31] <Guest20865> hmm, ok
[00:31] <Guest20865> i had hoped there was.
[00:32] <Guest20865> for people always say: in kde the user can adjust _everything_ whereas gnome only showns the standard options. but in gnome i can create new menu entries in the gui
[00:32] <maco> huh?
[00:33] <maco> in gnome creating new menu entries for right clicking on a file requires writing code
[00:33] <maco> you have to write a script for nautilus
[00:33] <hylal> hi all
[00:35] <Guest20865> maco: I can have the new entry execute a command right away: for example wipe, or run a script, yes. but the change to the menu is doen in gui
[00:35] <Guest20865> i hope to find something like this for kde
[00:35] <maco> this must be a VERY new feature of gnome
[00:35] <maco> because the only way there was to add something to the menu as of january was to write a script and put it in some magic directory so nautilus would add it
[00:36] <Guest20865> maco look for nautilus actions something like this in google
[00:36] <ahz> In KDE 4.3.2 (Kubuntu) how do I set my keyboard layout?  I don't see it in the setings, and my number pad doesn't work
[00:36] <Guest20865> it worked already in intrepid
[00:36] <hylal> any body has website script?
[00:36] <Guest20865> but, I like kde better. this is the only feature I'm missing
[00:37] <Guest20865> oh, and the weather applet
[00:37] <Guest20865> in kde there is a weather applet too, but it's damn bad as it always showsn wrong data
[00:37] <vis_> hi there =) I've installed the kubuntu package on my ubuntu 9.10 installation to try it out, and I'd like to remove everything KDE-related. Don't hate me =\ I was just wondering the easiest way of doing this.
[00:37] <maco> Guest20865: yes, nautilus scripts.... you still need to have a script. just because someone made some and packaged them up doesnt mean there's a graphical way in nautilus to add arbitrary commands to the menu
[00:38] <Guest20865> well, I don't care if someone packaged it or if it came with the default, asd long as I easily adjust my system
[00:38] <Guest20865> so is there such a package for kde?
[00:43] <gl_> Look here, you need to write it as a script:
[00:43] <gl_> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus
[00:51] <hylal> hi all
[00:51] <hylal> serius amat
[00:52] <gl_> Guest20865: also have a look in .kde/share/config/kservicemenurc
[00:53] <gl_> there are some items that you can set as false so they are not shown
[00:57] <sharpen047> how would i install a kernel module..?
[00:58] <sharpen047> oh in karmic 9.10
[01:00] <hylal> ------[01:00] <hylal> 99999999999999
[01:01] <Albi> hello world
[01:01] <Guest20865> gl_ thanks
[01:01] <Guest20865> was afk
[01:01] <Guest20865> and am again afk
[01:02] <Guest20865> i copied the link and your remark
[01:02] <Guest20865> so thank you
[01:02] <gl_> np
[01:02] <Albi> question: everytime i install a new linux kernal, it does not keep my nvidia drivers
[01:03] <sharpen047> it is always like that
[01:03] <sharpen047> and that is a statement
[01:03] <Albi> i'm not sure how that was a question, but i guess is that normal'
[01:03] <gl_> of course, because the nvidia driver is made for a particular kernel
[01:03] <Albi> LOL yeah sorry, about my bad question statement
[01:03] <sharpen047> lol
[01:03] <Albi> oh, but ive used the same nvidia driver across different kernals
[01:03] <gl_> you mean you compiled it?
[01:03] <sharpen047> gl_, how would i install a kernel module im running karmic
[01:04] <Albi> and it doesnt say what kernel it is for
[01:04] <Albi> i go and stop all the desktop manages running and do like sudo sh, and its a *.run file
[01:05] <gl_> yes, you are compiling it, so you make it every time
[01:05] <gl_> that is the "hard way"
[01:05] <gl_> the easy way is to use a repository with the driver already compiled, so when you upgrade the kernel the driver is also upgraded
[01:05] <Albi> oh, so if i were to do it the "easy way" would it still keep across kernels or would i still have to iunstall it again
[01:06] <Albi> oh ok, my internets is slow, how big is it?
[01:06] <gl_> no, it would get updated when you select the new kernel, I think
[01:06] <gl_> no idea, but that is the case with nvidia and ati drivers
[01:07] <Albi> oh okee dokee, now i know that it isnt a problem and its just a normal thing its a lot less of an annoyance
[01:07] <gl_> I used those with suse, my experience with kubuntu is only through the eeepc and that one does not use nvidia or ati ones
[01:07] <Albi> oh ok, the good ol eee
[01:08] <gl_> if you could install the easy way (through a repo) then you should not have any more problems
[01:08] <gl_> but if you install not mainstream kernels, then there might not be compiled drivers for them
[01:08] <Albi> yeah, i might try that, im in windoze at the moment, but i dont mind the hard way, keeps my brain on the ball :P
[01:08] <Albi> thanks for your help on that though
[01:09] <sharpen047> hey gl_ mind helping me real quickly if possible?
[01:09] <gl_> sharpen047: not sure I can, but carry on...
[01:09] <gl_> what is it?
[01:09] <sharpen047> gl_, im running karmic, how would i install a kernel module?
[01:10] <gl_> what do you want to do?
[01:10] <sharpen047> gl_, http://penguin-breeder.org/kernel/#apanel
[01:11] <gl_> ugh...
[01:11] <gl_> the command to load a module is "modprobe"
[01:11] <sharpen047> i need to make the module
[01:11] <gl_> have a look at 'man modprobe'
[01:12] <gl_> sure you probably need to compile it
[01:12] <sharpen047> i dont have a linux- dir
[01:12] <gl_> you need to install the sources, gcc and make
[01:12] <gl_> I mean the kernel sources
[01:13] <sharpen047> how would i go about doing htat
[01:13] <sharpen047> kpackage manageR?
[01:13] <gl_> yes
[01:13] <sharpen047> ty
[01:13] <gl_> not sure in kubuntu, you may have a differen repo for the sources?
[01:15] <sharpen047> for which
[01:15] <gl_> for the sources?
[01:15] <gl_> or is that in the same as the applications?
[01:15] <gl_> I can't remember
[01:16] <sharpen047> lol im not sure what you are asking
[01:16] <gl_> ok.
[01:17] <gl_> i can't remember if the kernel sources are in the same repository as the rest of the binaries
[01:17] <gl_> sometimes there is a 'sources' repo
[01:17] <sharpen047> how would i find out
[01:18] <gl_> search for the kernel sources!
[01:18] <sharpen047> and which make should i isntall?
[01:18] <gl_> the latest one
[01:18] <sharpen047> like tmake? or cmake? or xmake?
[01:18] <sharpen047> lol
[01:18] <gl_> is there a 'make'
[01:19] <gl_> ?
[01:19] <sharpen047> no
[01:19] <sharpen047> il try apt-get
[01:19] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, I have sound out of my headset jack, but not out of my laptop speakers
[01:20] <CPrgmSwR2> where can I get help switching the sound so it comes out of my speakers
[01:20] <sharpen047> CPrgmSwR2, go to the mixer go to preferences
[01:20] <gl_> or synaptic, that lists and you can search as well
[01:20] <sharpen047> CPrgmSwR2, settings > configure channels
[01:20] <CPrgmSwR2> do I use kmixer or alsamixer?
[01:21] <sharpen047> CPrgmSwR2, i am referring to kmix
[01:21] <CPrgmSwR2> okay I have configure channels up
[01:21] <sharpen047> enable them all
[01:21] <CPrgmSwR2> Okay
[01:22] <sharpen047> CPrgmSwR2, when they are all enabled go unmute everything and try getting sound
[01:23] <sharpen047> gl_, installing gcc righ tnow ill wait till that is done to try apt-get make and sources
[01:23] <CPrgmSwR2> sharpen047: alsamixer shows all the channels like kmix does when you enable all channels, also everything is umuted and where options are available, all possitible combinations have been tried
[01:23] <gl_> maybe gcc comes with make
[01:24] <sharpen047> gl_, alright lol we will see, will you be on for a bit?it could be a while
[01:24] <gl_> it is 1:24 am I will go to bed any time now...
[01:25] <gl_> you should get it wth sudo apt-get install make
[01:25] <sharpen047> gl_, is gcc insatlled by default? i think it is done
[01:25] <gl_> no
[01:25] <sharpen047> maybe i installed it already
[01:26] <sharpen047> how would i tell ha
[01:26] <gl_> i see...
[01:26] <gl_> try gcc
[01:26] <sharpen047> make is installed and gcc no inputfiles
[01:26] <sharpen047> so just sources
[01:28] <gl_> so gcc is installed because it is telling you that you did not indicate an input file
[01:28] <sharpen047> right
[01:28] <gl_> and you might need the "headers" too
[01:28] <sharpen047> i have the headers
[01:28] <gl_> OK
[01:29] <sharpen047> im not sure how toget sources
[01:29] <vincy> salve a tutti
[01:30] <vincy> chat ubuntu??
[01:30] <gl_> sudo apt-get install linux-tree
[01:30] <gl_> not sure, though, I am not used to kubuntu...
[01:30] <sharpen047> what are you used to
[01:30] <gl_> suse
[01:31] <vincy> ok
[01:31] <vincy> thanxs
[01:31] <Albi> aMSN question: (well more of a statement again) i boot it and it loads then just dissapears
[01:32] <CPrgmSwR2> Are there any kubuntu developers in here
[01:32] <sharpen047> gl_, it is linux-source-2.6.31
[01:32] <gl_> ok
[01:33] <sharpen047> gl_, a ton of options for everything though.. makes it confusing
[01:33] <szal> Albi: did you check the system tray?  is the process still running?
[01:33] <gl_> so now you download the tgz file of the module, expand it, then cd to the new folder and follow the instructions of the page you showed earlier
[01:33] <gl_> that would be it.
[01:33] <Albi> i'm not in linux atm, but afaik its not running, evern with the latest amsn
[01:34] <gl_> 'make' does the compiling for you
[01:34] <sharpen047> gl_, i dont need to recompile a kernel or anything? lol
[01:34] <gl_> no, just the code you downloaded
[01:34] <sharpen047> that is sweet
[01:35] <sharpen047> gl_, how would i change the partition size on a drive? i have windows xp and kubuntu on the other, i want to expand the linux part
[01:35] <Albi> szal it wasn't still running, and it happened with both the latest and the one before amsns (that made little sense)
[01:36] <gl_> hm... you use gparted, but I do not think you can resize a partition while you have it mounted...
[01:36] <gl_> Usually you do that at installation time
[01:37] <sharpen047> yeah... i ended up copying everything from my desktop over to my laptop(this comp) on the linux part
[01:37] <sharpen047> gl_, the linux sources downloaded a ter gz file.. what should i do with that
[01:37] <sharpen047> just extract it in place?
[01:38] <gl_> oh...
[01:38] <gl_> not sure, sorry
[01:38] <gl_> wait
[01:40] <gl_> yes, you can try that see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70905
[01:40] <sharpen047> gl_, im extracing it
[01:40] <gl_> you might need to download this too:
[01:40] <gl_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:41] <gl_> then download the module you want to build in your home folder,
[01:42] <gl_> uncompress it
[01:42] <gl_> cd to the new folder containing the module sources
[01:42] <gl_> and type 'make'
[01:44] <sharpen047> gl_, same error
[01:44] <gl_> what error?
[01:45] <sharpen047> gl_, gotta install sources still
[01:45] <sharpen047> pm
[01:46] <gl_> maybe the sources are not in the right place, did you look at the link i posted above?
[01:46] <gl_> apt-get install linux-tree
[01:46] <sharpen047> nope ill do that thanks
[01:46] <gl_> cd /usr/src
[01:47] <sharpen047> no such thing as linux tree
[01:47] <gl_> tar jxvf linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 (but yours is a different version, of course)
[01:47] <gl_> ln -s linux-source-2.6.10 linux
[01:47] <gl_> so what did you download?
[01:47] <sharpen047> 2.6.32
[01:48] <gl_> (it gets difficult to do this without being able to run kubuntu here... :-/
[01:48] <gl_> I mean the command
[01:49] <sharpen047> what does ln -s do
[02:14] <Can0n> Getting so tired of this, and can't find a solution. I have an external hard drive that worked perfectly in 9.04, and also a SanDisk MicroMate that connect my memory card to the computer and that worked as well. Now under 9.10 none of them work. I've been searching like crazy on ubuntuforums.org and google about an answer but haven't found anything useful yet. Any ideas ?
[02:16] <sharpen047> where would i find a guide reconfigure sorces?
[02:16] <mvalviar> hi. I installed kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu install. I don't have any shutdown options
[02:17] <sharpen047> in terminal type shutdown now
[02:17] <sharpen047> or is it just shutdown..
[02:18] <mvalviar> i know that but most other users don't. Do I really need to tell them "Go to the terminal and type sudo shutdonw now. Then type my password"
[02:18] <mvalviar> Isn't there supposed to be a shutdown option when I click leave?
[02:18] <Can0n> Yes it should be
[02:19] <sharpen047> true :P
[02:19] <mvalviar> I don't have it anywhere. Thats why I'm kindy asking for an answer.
[02:20] <Can0n> Try to remove the Application Launcher and re-add it
[02:21] <mvalviar> it still isn't there. Even If I select leave from the desktop context menu the only option I have is logout.
[02:22] <Can0n> mvalviar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307800
[02:22] <Can0n> Try that
[02:24] <mvalviar> I already tried that thread.
[02:24] <mvalviar> I have kdm and I already installed kshutdown
[02:25] <trappist> anybody know of a source for dovecot 1.2 debs?
[02:25] <trappist> I've just built some from debian sources but I'm a little nervous about installing
[02:25] <Can0n> mvalviar: Rebooted ? ;)
[02:25] <mvalviar> I already did.
[02:25] <Can0n> Ok, then I'm out. Sry
[02:26] <mvalviar> :(
[02:26] <ahkheng> hi anyone here? got some newbie qns
[02:27] <ahkheng> help needed, my youtube didnt produce any sound after i installed my graphic driver, its working b4 installing, i tried to search on net n tried everything, but still not working..
[02:28] <dracflamloc> hello
[02:28] <ahkheng> hi
[02:29] <clyde> anyone mind helping? :(
[02:29] <clyde> help needed, my youtube didnt produce any sound after i installed my graphic driver, its working b4 installing, i tried to search on net n tried everything, but still not working..
[02:32] <Albi> clyde, did you try rebooting?
[02:33] <clyde> tried
[02:34] <Albi> is your volume turned up in the computer and set to the right thingymajig
[02:34] <clyde> i even installed flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[02:35] <clyde> err my amarok got sound, so i dun think the problem is about the mute or non-mute problem..
[02:35] <clyde> the problem started after i reboot my kubuntu due to the req of installation of the graphic driver
[02:35] <clyde> after dat i tried reboot twice, still nth changes
[02:36] <Albi> hmmm
[02:37] <ken> does anyone know if amarok supports shoutcast radio
[02:37] <Albi> might be a graphic driver issue that will be fixed in the next one, im not sure if you can downgrade or what not to the previous one
[02:37] <Albi> VLC
[02:37] <clyde> o.0
[02:38] <Albi> i think amarok does, but use VLC
[02:39] <clyde> but then i juz reformated to kubuntu from ubuntu ytd.. b4 i installed my ubuntu on thursday n the graphic card installation doesnt kill my sound for flash player
[02:40] <ken> Albi> will try vlc and see what happens, thanks
[02:40] <Albi> clyde, are there any updates you can run? try a different kernel?
[02:40] <Albi> ken, no probs, its defiantly my favorite :P
[02:41] <clyde> err quite new to kubuntu n ubuntu wad does the kernel means? n i updated all bugs and updates given
[02:41] <ken> Albi> I have been using songbird which I really like. I can't figure out what all the hype is on amarok though
[02:42] <Albi> ken> me either, both amarok and dragon really make me climb up the wall, they frustrate me somewhat
[02:43] <Albi> clyde> you know when you boot the computer and it goes into grub first?
[02:43] <sharpen047> can someone help me install sourceS?
[02:43] <clyde> yep
[02:43] <Albi> you can choose a different kernel in there, the different numbers
[02:43] <clyde> u mean go into the recovery mode?
[02:43] <Albi> how many things are in the list in grub?
[02:43] <Albi> no
[02:44] <Albi> in grub, for example you will have, ubuntu with kernel number what not, then that one with recovery, then another kernel and that one with recovery, and then maybe windows
[02:44] <Albi> choose an older kernel in that list
[02:44] <Albi> sharpen047, whats the sources?
[02:45] <clyde> there got 2 for ubuntu, 2 for kubuntu, 1 for window, n got 2 more is memory test sth
[02:45] <sharpen047> Albi, kernel sources i think.. im trying to install a kernel module but im having trouble making the module
[02:45] <Albi> clyde, well choose an older kernel for kubuntu, or whatever you're using and see if the sound works in it
[02:46] <clyde> Albi, ok thx i will try the method now
[02:46] <Albi> sharpen047, for kubuntu? new kernels should just turn up in your package manager, ie kpackage or synaptic
[02:46] <clyde> thx =)
[02:46] <Albi> no probs clyde
[02:47]  * Albi is so lonely :C
[02:49] <sharpen047> Albi, what would it be?
[02:49] <prabhakar> ?
[02:49] <Albi> itd just say "linux kernel" or the like with a number after it and you tick it and hit install
[02:51] <sharpen047> Albi, i searched for linux-source and came up with 2 things and i have one installed already but it still isnt working..
[02:52] <Albi> if theres no new kernels than they wont show up
[02:52] <Albi> i'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do
[02:53] <sharpen047> http://penguin-breeder.org/kernel/#apanel
[02:53] <Albi> let me take a look
[02:54] <sharpen047> i have a fujitsu laptop and i have an "application panel" so fujitsu calls it but the media keys dont work and xev doesnt detect any input so i googled it and found that guide with drivers and utils, it wont install
[02:54] <Albi> 1) why are you trying to do that, 2) what step are you up to
[02:54] <Albi> ok
[02:55] <Albi> what step are you up to
[02:55] <sharpen047> and iam at the part where i just mv makefile
[02:55] <sharpen047> i have already mved it
[02:55] <Albi> in 2.6 or 2.4
[02:55] <sharpen047> 2.6.31
[02:56] <Albi> ok and whats the problem...?
[02:57] <clyde> Albi, its still not working
[02:57] <clyde> does tis got anything to do wif the flash player?
[02:57] <Albi> clyde, did you try ubuntu as well and the different kernels?
[02:58] <Albi> well is it just youtube or is it all flash?
[02:58] <clyde> only tried youtube, nt sure bout other
[02:58] <sharpen047> Albi, http://pastebin.com/d7a9dfde9
[02:58] <clyde> i didnt tried the ubuntu yet
[02:58] <clyde> but b4 the ubuntu was no problem for me
[02:59] <Albi> clyde, go to fat-pie and try some flash animations, or newgrounds, what not
[03:00] <Albi> sharpen047, did you "Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it."
[03:02] <Albi> sudo get-me some food, i'm starvin'
[03:02] <clyde> albi, all doesnt produce sound =/
[03:03] <sharpen047> Albi,  you have a pm
[03:03] <Albi> hmmm, not sure what the problem is clyde, reinstall flash, try ubuntu, and its different kernels, i dont know
[03:04] <clyde> i tried everything =x but thx for helping albi =)
[03:04] <Albi> yeah man, how long you been on linux for?
[03:04] <Albi> no probs clyde, i didnt really help much :P
[03:04] <sharpen047> him or me?
[03:04] <clyde> its ok albi =)
[03:05] <sharpen047> :P
[03:05] <sharpen047> clyde what is your prob
[03:05] <Albi> you sharpen047
[03:05] <sharpen047> Albi, on and off for about 7 years
[03:06] <Albi> oh okee dokee
[03:06] <sharpen047> im used to gentoo, not kubuntu
[03:06] <clyde> sharpen047, my flash player doesnt produce any sound lol n i juz realise, no sound even i nudge using amsn >.>
[03:06] <sharpen047> i usually use kubuntu to see if my wifi driver is available :D
[03:06] <Albi> well then, you should have more luck in fixing your problem than i do LOL, but i suggest googling a little while longer and trying to find a different solution
[03:06] <sharpen047> haha
[03:07] <Albi> oh yeah, i ran gentoox on my xbox once
[03:07] <sharpen047> Albi,  i have and i also had some morehelp haha
[03:07] <sharpen047> thats funny
[03:07] <sharpen047> i didnt feel like compiling
[03:07] <Albi> lol
[03:08] <sharpen047> pulse audio and this app panel are my last things to do
[03:08] <sharpen047> pulse audio is only half duplex right now
[03:09] <sharpen047> meaning i can only have sound in one app at a time
[03:11] <Albi> lol
[03:12] <Albi> sound in linux isnt the best
[03:13] <matt__> can anyone help me with my hostname?
[03:14] <prabhakar> yep
[03:14] <matt__> It isnt resolving correctly. I dont know what I did. I can ping the IP of the machine but not the name
[03:14] <ken> Albi> vlc and shoutcast works fine. thanks
[03:15] <matt__> (its a win/buntu mixed network)
[03:17] <matt__> firewall is turned off, samba is running locally and tesparm is OK. I can connect to the machine with \\192.168.2.X but not \\Hostname
[03:19] <eve> hello
[03:20] <eve> how are you ?
[03:20] <eve> there is someone ??
[03:20] <matt__> haha eve left
[03:22] <Albi> hey eve, whats up?
[03:22] <Albi> matt__ why dont you just use the IP address then, if it works
[03:23] <matt__> I have scripts that depend on \\hostname
[03:23] <Albi> oh ok
[03:23] <Albi> is it hostname or Hostname
[03:23] <Albi> and shouldnt you be using foreware slash
[03:24] <Albi> foreward slash
[03:24] <Albi> not backslash \
[03:45] <ron__> does anyone have a link for 64bit gimpshop?
[03:55] <Albi> ron__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239277 JFGI
[04:05] <doleyb> sharpen047: have you thought about just removing pulseaudio?
[04:06] <sharpen047> doleyb, havent messed with ityet
[04:08] <emma> is it necessary to have an internet connection while installing kubuntu with the alt cd?
[04:10] <sharpen047> not sure, dont think so though, it would be a good idea to update it before installing
[04:10] <ferident> hi
[04:10] <sharpen047> hello
[04:11] <ferident> iran
[04:12] <Albi> emma, no
[04:12] <sharpen047> Albi, hey
[04:13] <Albi> sharpen047, ey, whats cookin?
[04:14] <sharpen047> Albi, googlin stuff on this error
[04:14] <Albi> found anything?
[04:14] <emma> Albi: what happens then when it gets to the dhttp thing and it indentifes your connection interface?
[04:14] <sharpen047> bunch of nothing, google is turning into youtube
[04:15] <sharpen047> bunch of "hits" that mean nothing
[04:15] <sharpen047> not even to what im searching for
[04:15] <emma> Albi: i had the impresion the alt cd was using the net to install some stuff
[04:15] <wereami> hey people
[04:17] <Albi> lol
[04:18] <Albi> emma, nah i always get the alt cd, it allows you to grab single packages off it
[04:18] <emma> Albi: and you don't need any active internet connection to use it huh?
[04:18] <Albi> emma, i get the alt cd of both ubuntu and kubuntu, i install kubuntu, and then install the ubuntu-desktop inside it using the ubuntu alt cd, because you cant do it with the normal cd
[04:19] <Albi> emma: no not that i'm aware of
[04:19] <_akahige_> I'm running gnome with the kde libs and playing around with dolphin, trying to get pdf preview to work. I installed okular, but can't figure out how to get one to talk to the other. anybody have any ideas?
[04:20] <Albi> _akahige_ one to talk to the other??
[04:22] <_akahige_> Albi : dolphin isn't seeing that okular is installed, and there's no "preview" option for me to tick. I'm assuming that there's some communication breakdown that's preventing dolphin from using okular. or am I missing something else?  :)
[04:23] <Albi> dolphin doesn't communicate with okular per se
[04:24] <Albi> dolphin would have its own pdf file stuff to preview pdfs
[04:25] <_akahige_> oh -- okay. I don't get any pdf preview and in googling found something that said it used okular for pdf preview. so then the question is "how do I get dolphin to do pdf preview?"
[04:25] <Albi> im not in linux at the moment so i cant have a look, but it should do it automatically, hang on i have dolphin installed on windows, ill take a look
[04:27] <Albi> hmm its not working well for me atm
[04:28] <Albi> id say you're missing some kde/qt4 library "stuff" (stuff being a technical word LOL)
[04:28] <_akahige_> yeah. there doesn't seem to be anything in the preview selection dialogue about pdfs -- which lead me to look at outside apps (and okular is kde's pdf handler)
[04:29] <Albi> if you want to use dolphin i'd say switch to kubuntu
[04:29] <Albi> theres a reason why they have different file explorers of both kubuntu and ubuntu
[04:29] <Albi> one reason being that ubuntu is ugly as my dogs hairy bum, so they need an ugly file browser to match it
[04:30] <_akahige_> lol. but with shared libs, you're supposed to be able to run nice apps on an ugly desktop
[04:30] <Albi> yeah i know, and you're probably missing some of those libs
[04:30] <Albi> how fast is your internets?
[04:30] <_akahige_> it's good
[04:31] <Albi> are you up for installing the whole kubuntu-desktop?
[04:31] <Albi> just to see if it fixes your problem, which it might not :P
[04:31] <_akahige_> (and the package manager installed all the dependencies)
[04:31] <Albi> hmmm
[04:31] <_akahige_> I think I'll pass on the whole kubuntu desktop
[04:31] <Albi> i dunno man
[04:32] <_akahige_> well, I appreciate your help
[04:32] <Albi> no probs buddy
[04:52] <jschall> prime example of one of the many little bugs that mean that linux is definitely not ready for average users: i'm trying to watch a movie in the default "dragon" player, and it keeps going to the damn screensaver or turning off the monitor per power-saving settings.
[04:54] <jschall> in the middle of the scene where legolas brings down an oliphant by himself, and BOOM! suddenly there's only the damn (i'd use stronger language if the rules allowed) screensaver.
[04:56] <StoneCold> Fuck kubuntu
[04:56] <jschall> !ops
[04:56] <v1ttu_> inn the ass?
[04:56] <v1ttu_> -n
[04:56] <StoneCold> Fuck kubuntu
[04:56] <bazhang> v1ttu_, StoneCold stop that
[04:57] <v1ttu_> which point of entry?
[04:57] <StoneCold> fuck you
[04:57] <StoneCold> fuck you kubuntu
[04:58] <emma> !ops
[04:58] <emma> jschall: oh sorry i didn't see you said that already
[04:58] <StoneCold> fuck you kubuntu
[04:59] <v1ttu_> emergency?
[04:59] <v1ttu_> lolol
[04:59] <StoneCold> !ops
[05:00] <jschall> StoneCold, v1ttu_: go use a mac.
[05:00] <v1ttu_> no thanks i don't like being tied up like a bdsm hooker :)
[05:15] <abhi_> how to start graphical network manager in kubuntu ?
[05:15] <emma> I've installed Kubuntu 9.10 on my laptop. When it gets to the desktop, the tool bar at the bottom is just all blacked out. If I move the mouse over it, the parts that would be "clickable" change color, but I see no GUI there. When I click on the place that would bring up the big menu, I just get a big black rectangle that pops up in the place of that menu. Any ideas?
[05:16] <v1ttu> System Settings>>HNetwork Connections abhi
[05:16] <v1ttu> -H
[05:16] <abhi_> thnx
[05:16] <emma> abhi_: try going to the terminal and typing kdesu knetworkmanager
[05:17] <abhi_> thnx
[05:20] <abhi_> hi the network manager does not show up on the screen.
[05:21] <abhi_> any idea what could be wrong ?
[05:21] <abhi_> i have kubuntu 9.10
[05:21] <abhi_> new to using ubuntu.
[05:21] <abhi_> need help.
[05:21] <v1ttu> did you goto systemsettings >> Network connections?
[05:25] <abhi_> i dont see systemsettings -> network connections, there are two other options system->network, system->network manager
[05:25] <v1ttu> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:26] <abhi_> kubuntu
[05:26] <v1ttu> ok click the menu k
[05:26] <v1ttu> and goto...
[05:27] <abhi_> ok
[05:27] <v1ttu> applications >> settings and click the system settings menu thingy
[05:27] <v1ttu> menu entry
[05:27] <v1ttu> k?
[05:27] <abhi_> ok
[05:27] <abhi_> i can see network settings there
[05:28] <v1ttu> now goto the network connections button
[05:28] <v1ttu> okkkkkkk
[05:28] <v1ttu> sweet
[05:28] <abhi_> there is no network connections only network settings .
[05:29] <abhi_> oh ok
[05:29] <abhi_> got iy
[05:29] <abhi_> got it
[05:29] <v1ttu> kk
[05:29] <abhi_> thnx
[05:29] <v1ttu> np bro
[05:36] <abhi_> ok. I need some more help.
[05:36] <abhi_> i cant get wireless working on my laptop.
[05:37] <abhi_> in network connections under wireless tab i can see my router name.
[05:37] <v1ttu> huh?
[05:38] <v1ttu> you can se it?
[05:38] <v1ttu> see*
[05:38] <v1ttu> no connection ?
[05:44] <emma> I've installed Kubuntu 9.10 on my laptop. When it gets to the desktop, the tool bar at the bottom is just all blacked out. If I move the mouse over it, the parts that would be "clickable" change color, but I see no GUI there. When I click on the place that would bring up the big menu, I just get a big black rectangle that pops up in the place of that menu. Any ideas?
[05:46] <v1ttu> graphics card/chip?
[05:46] <emma> let me see
[05:47] <emma> i went to ctrl+al+F1 to see stuff
[05:48] <emma> v1ttu: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[05:48] <v1ttu> hold on
[05:48] <v1ttu> radeon 9000
[05:48] <v1ttu> sorry i dunno about pre directx 9 ati cards
[05:49] <v1ttu> how old is the laptop?
[05:51] <emma> it's a thinkpad x31
[05:51] <emma> I think it might be a bit old.
[05:52] <Tm_T> hi emma
[05:53] <emma> Hey there Tm_T
[05:53] <emma> v1ttu: I think the laptop might be about 6 years old.
[05:57] <emma> I guess kubuntu can't run on this machine.
[06:10] <arrrghhh> hey all, i have a broadcom wireless card that worked fine in jaunty.  i just installed karmic on this laptop, and kubuntu found the proprietary driver in the hardware drivers section.  but every time i try to hit activate, it just sits there.  never activates the driver... what am i doing wrong?
[06:13] <Albi> using karmic lolol
[06:13] <Albi> ^o)
[06:14] <maco> arrrghhh: wep?
[06:14] <arrrghhh> maco: what?  what does wep/wpa/anything have to do with my question?
[06:14] <maco> arrrghhh: i think wep is broken in knetworkmanager
[06:14] <arrrghhh> i'm not using wep
[06:14] <arrrghhh> it doesn't install the driver for the card.
[06:14] <maco> oh!
[06:15] <maco> i was thinking of the other activate button
[06:15] <maco> sorry :)
[06:15] <arrrghhh> the hardware drivers section doesn't activate the driver.  i don't get it.
[06:15] <maco> maybe run an update first?
[06:15] <arrrghhh> i did
[06:15] <arrrghhh> nothing left to update :S
[06:16] <maco> try installing bcmwl-kernel-sources and bcmwl-modaliases manually then
[06:16] <v1ttu> if its broadcom it probably wont work ever
[06:16] <maco> v1ttu: uh...what are you? living in 2003?
[06:16] <v1ttu> those things are a pita
[06:16] <v1ttu> no 2009
[06:16] <v1ttu> with a broadcom chip in my laptop
[06:16] <arrrghhh> it worked perfectly in jaunty
[06:17] <v1ttu> it still doesnt work properly
[06:17] <v1ttu> it worked in jaunty?
[06:17] <v1ttu> okkkkkk
[06:17] <v1ttu> then the karmic network goblin has struck
[06:17] <maco> arrrghhh: just try that manual driver install
[06:17] <arrrghhh> it worked great in jaunty.  and hardy as i recall... i don't remember intrepid on this mchine.
[06:17] <arrrghhh> maco: ok
[06:17] <maco> (and reboot)
[06:25] <arrrghhh> maco: it said those packages are already installed
[06:25] <maco> what does "sudo modprobe wl" tell you?
[06:26] <arrrghhh> hrm
[06:26] <arrrghhh> fatal: module wl not found...
[06:28] <arrrghhh> maco: i don't get it.  i don't remember having to install a proprietary driver in jaunty... i guess i could be mistaken.
[06:28] <v1ttu> did you upgrade from 9.04 or clean install 9.10?
[06:28] <maco> try "sudo aptitude reinstall" on those 2 packages
[06:28] <arrrghhh> clean install of 9.10.
[06:28] <v1ttu> hmmm
[06:28] <maco> im guessing dkms didnt get run to generate the module
[06:28] <v1ttu> that is pretty weird if it worked before
[06:28] <v1ttu> a lot of people seem to have network issues with karmic
[06:29] <maco> nah i ran into a "driver installed, but dkms didnt run" issue at an installfest a couple days ago
[06:29] <sharpen047> would anyone mind helping me with these media keys please? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3108120.msg206784#msg206784
[06:29] <arrrghhh> yea, i had a dkms error when i installed a fresh install of ubuntu.
[06:29] <arrrghhh> this time i tried kubuntu, thinking it'd be better.  lol, same result.
[06:29] <arrrghhh> maco: ok, i reinstalled the drivers.  reboot now?
[06:30] <v1ttu> kubuntu has more problems with netrworking than ubuntu
[06:30] <v1ttu> -r
[06:31] <arrrghhh> v1ttu: well neither's workin for me right now.
[06:31] <v1ttu> lolol
[06:31] <arrrghhh> it's sad.  it seems the driver issues in ubuntu are increasing, whilst win7 driver issues are almost nil.
[06:31] <maco> arrrghhh: did dkms run?
[06:32] <arrrghhh> maco: how can i tell?
[06:32] <maco> v1ttu: theyve no difference in drivers. same kernel
[06:32] <v1ttu> win doesjnt recognize my harddrive
[06:32] <maco> v1ttu: no need for fud
[06:32] <v1ttu> maco the network manager is the problem in kubuntu
[06:32] <maco> arrrghhh: did it do something where it printed a long line of ...........
[06:32] <v1ttu> -j
[06:32] <v1ttu> fud?
[06:32] <v1ttu> aha what are you talking about?
[06:32] <arrrghhh> maco: oh you mean from the reinstall of those packages?  i thought you meant on initial install.
[06:33] <v1ttu> the kubuntu network manager is notorious for being unreliable
[06:33] <arrrghhh> i see a line about "Removing all DKMS Modules"
[06:33] <arrrghhh> and "Adding Module to DKMS build system" as well.
[06:35] <maco> arrrghhh: when it does the "adding modules to.." thing did it print a bunch of ..........
[06:35] <arrrghhh> nope.  next line is "Doing initial module build"  then "Installing initial module"  then "Done."
[06:36] <maco> the module build didnt do it?
[06:36] <arrrghhh> i can paste the output if you want
[06:36] <maco> hrm...
[06:36] <maco> maybe itll do it on reboot
[06:36] <arrrghhh> i don't see the wifi light on either.  i noticed if the driver isn't installed/active the light is dim.
[06:36] <arrrghhh> or turned off, but i checked that :D
[06:37] <arrrghhh> i guess i'll try a reboot then... brb.
[06:39] <arrrghhh_> holy crap i have wifi!
[06:39] <arrrghhh_> and evidently my old nick is still around
[06:39] <arrrghhh> that's better
[06:40] <v1ttu> it worked?
[06:40] <v1ttu> damn
[06:40] <arrrghhh> yea.  the reinstall + reboot.  go figure, it seems those packages were installed after all.
[06:40] <v1ttu> lol
[06:48] <greenmang0> hello friends... i am trying to use Kopete Plugin... Now Listening.. with Amarok 2 on Kubuntu 9.10... but the song i am listening is not showing up as my status message...
[06:49] <greenmang0> what is the solution for this problem?
[06:51] <v1ttu> i just make it post the song in the convo
[06:51] <greenmang0> v1ttu: didn't get you...
[06:51] <v1ttu> hmmm?
[06:51] <v1ttu> i meant when i make it say what song im playing in the convo
[06:52] <v1ttu> auto is in the plugin options
[06:52] <greenmang0> v1ttu: actually it wasn't working with 9.04 as well
[06:53] <v1ttu> the status message?
[06:53] <greenmang0> so i thought it will work with next release... but not...
[06:53] <greenmang0> v1ttu: yeah... the song i am playing should be displayed as my status message
[06:53] <greenmang0> using that Now Listening plugin of Kopete
[06:53] <v1ttu> hold on
[06:56] <v1ttu> yeah it doesnt work for me either
[06:57] <v1ttu> bug i guess
[06:57] <sharpen047> would anyone mind helping me with these media keys please? they arent generating a keycode
[06:58] <greenmang0> v1ttu: hmm...
[07:00] <arrrghhh> maco: thanks for the help.
[07:47] <Zensursula> Hi from Berlin, any hints how get wlan running under karmic?
[07:48] <Zensursula> it's just not there
[07:48] <Zensursula> was working perfect under jaunty
[07:48] <Nightwalker-> my wlan worked well on jaunty, but on karmic it doesnt connect
[07:49] <Zensursula> same prob with the sound
[07:49] <Nightwalker-> karmic has a bug that wlan doesnt work
[07:49] <Zensursula> Muahahaha
[07:51] <Zensursula> Since it's the same with the sound I think I'll go back to jaunty.
[07:51] <Zensursula> Why do they ship karmic?
[08:06] <korvin_> hi
[08:06] <The_Journey> hi how do I change grub boot menu resolution to 1024x768?
[08:07] <korvin_> give me advice, which music player to install on karmic?
[08:07] <Unksi> amarok is great :)
[08:07] <korvin_> )
[08:09] <dylan_> would anyone know why i can't get stickam to capture video off of my webcam?
[08:10] <korvin_> maybe another player?
[08:10] <dylan_> ?huh
[08:10] <dylan_> it's not any obvious reason i'm positive i'm been trying to get this working all day :/
[08:10] <korvin_> not for you
[08:10] <dylan_> o i c :/
[08:49] <r00t_ninja> is it possible to connect to my wireless at boot time or during gdm?
[08:49] <r00t_ninja> i mean kdm
[09:25] <joefg> i have installed kubuntu 9.10 on my dell laptop. Wireless works, but i couldnt find a way to share my Internet connection by creating an adhoc wireless network.
[09:25] <joefg> Is there a way to do that ?
[09:27] <chimp-champ> Hi, I have installed vistar7-transformation-pack from kde-look.org on my kubuntu-9.10-machine, it doesnt work, so how can i uninstall this?
[09:40] <Unclemeat> ciao
[09:40] <maarth> goodmorning
[10:09] <njathan> how can i check the md5 sum of a burnt kubuntu dvd?
[10:14] <r00t_ninja> njathan: are you on windows or linux?
[10:14] <njathan> r00t_ninja: i am on linux (Kubuntu 9.04)
[10:15] <r00t_ninja> md5sum -c file.iso.md5
[10:15] <r00t_ninja> you will need the file that contains the md5
[10:15] <r00t_ninja> and the iso
[10:15] <r00t_ninja> in the same directory
[10:18] <njathan> r00t_ninja: but would that not check the iso file? i am not sure if the iso was burnt right......
[10:19] <njathan> r00t_ninja: when i do the 'check dvd for defects' after booting from the dvd, i get a blank screen
[10:19] <njathan> r00t_ninja: same for 'try kubuntu without installing' link
[10:19] <r00t_ninja> ahh ok
[10:20] <njathan> r00t_ninja: does that automaticlly mean that the dvd is bad?
[10:21] <r00t_ninja> md5sum /dev/cdrom
[10:22] <njathan> r00t_ninja: there's a md5sum text file in the dvd... is that what i should compar with? 'coz there's no MD5 sum for the dvd on the kubuntu download page all seem to be for CDs)
[10:22] <r00t_ninja> to use that do
[10:22] <r00t_ninja> cd /media/cdrom
[10:22] <r00t_ninja> md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v "OK$"
[10:22] <r00t_ninja> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[10:23] <r00t_ninja>     *
[10:23] <r00t_ninja> This will automatically check every file against the MD5 hashes stored in the file.
[10:23] <njathan> hey thanks r00t_ninja
[10:23] <njathan> :-)
[11:09] <lohoubb-it> hello
[11:09] <lohoubb-it> I cannot use sudo gedit with the file interfaces why???
[11:10] <georgeb> lohoubb-it: try kdesudo gedit
[11:11] <lohoubb-it> oh sorry I'm on ubuntu...
[11:11] <mikkel> or gksudo gedit
[11:11] <lohoubb-it> nothing...
[11:12] <xh> hi! every time i reboot i have to do 'ifdown eth0; ifup eth0' and only then i have a net connection; why is this happening?  in 'Network Connection' my wired connection is not showing at all. i connect via DHCP with nothing fancy; how can i fix this?
[11:13] <lohoubb-it> xh same problem tried wicd?
[11:13] <georgeb> lohoubb-it: do you have gedit installed ? If you run gedit without gksudo/kdesudo does it start ?
[11:14] <mikkel> @lohoubb-i , don't you have kate as prog, so gksudo kate
[11:14] <lohoubb-it> yes
[11:14] <lohoubb-it> yes it start
[11:14] <lohoubb-it> no I'm on gnome now
[11:14] <g0d> Kubuntu RuLeZ!!!!
[11:15] <g0d> a big Bravo to the developers!
[11:15] <lohoubb-it> now interfaces is opening but it is already loading!!!
[11:15] <joefg> wifi works on kubuntu 9.10 on my laptop..but is there any way to share my internet connection by creating an ad hoc wireless network ?
[11:15] <xh> lohoubb-it: no, did not try wicd; and i think it's wrong to 'fix' by installing some other software; imho 'Network Connections' should just work; but it does not, it also did not work for me for wifi connection to a non-broadcasting access point; this sucks..
[11:16] <lohoubb-it> After I installed wicd the startup was very slow and an error appeared, could it be the cause?
[11:17] <lohoubb-it> "An error has occoured when starting of gnome settings demon. SOme aspects could not works correctly. Last error message was: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." Gnome will try to restart the settings at the next start-up
[11:17] <lohoubb-it> "
[11:17] <lohoubb-it> could it be the cause?
[11:18] <lohoubb-it> sorry *gnome daemon
[11:18] <Mamarok> lohoubb-it: hm, did you ask in #ubuntu? For Gnome this would be more appropriate...
[11:19] <lohoubb-it> yes but it's so caotic that no-one answer me...
[11:19] <lohoubb-it> please help
[11:20] <Mamarok> lohoubb-it: ask in #ubuntu-beginners-help then, less traffic
[11:20] <Mamarok> I don't use Gnome, can't really help, sorry
[11:21] <Mamarok> lohoubb-it: also, it's Sunday morning in Europe and still very earily in the US, be patient
[11:21] <enrisa> Hello, I've a problem with graphical acceleration with ATI Radeon 7000 after upgrade to KKoala. Drivers seem to be ok, and the card beeing recognized but speed is no more than 250fps. I've found same problem in forums, but no solution. Any help?
[11:21] <lohoubb-it> MAmarok: so much more less traffic that they are sleeping!
[11:21] <lohoubb-it> ok
[11:22] <Mamarok> lohoubb-it: as I said, it's Sunday, a lot of people are not even online now, and the devs are flocking in to UDS
[11:31] <ahmedtaufiq> i have installed GNU GRUB
[11:31] <ahmedtaufiq> can any one help me on this
[11:31] <lohoubb-it> do you know how prevent access some websites on firefox ubuntu?
[11:31] <lohoubb-it> help
[11:31] <ahmedtaufiq> ??
[11:33] <ahmedtaufiq> ??
[11:33] <lohoubb-it> how disable acces of some websites on ubuntu?
[11:33] <ahmedtaufiq> looks like every one is sleeping here
[11:35] <Mamarok> lohoubb-it: you can blacklist wesites in Firefox itself
[11:36] <Mamarok> in the settings
[11:37] <dec0d9r> hi all
[11:37] <Mamarok> lohoubb-it: or you install a firewall and set the block there
[11:37] <Mamarok> !hi | dec0d9r
[11:42] <dec0d9r> Thanks
[11:42] <dec0d9r> u can ask one question
[11:42] <dec0d9r> ?
[11:43] <dec0d9r> sory for bad english
[11:44] <lohoubb-it> ok
[11:44] <lohoubb-it> thank you
[11:44] <dec0d9r> my question
[11:45] <Mamarok> !ask | dec0d9r
[11:47] <dec0d9r> The netcut program in windows cut the internet for me using arp scan & cut .. so what is solution ?
[11:54] <Mamarok> dec0d9r: sorry, I don't know, I don't use Windows. Also what has that to do with Kubuntu?
[11:59] <dec0d9r> Mamarok : i don't use windows too .. but the my quetion .. how can  Prevention ARP scan from other machene on my network of cut the internet >> Thanks
[12:00] <Mamarok> dec0d9r: sorry, I don't know
[12:01] <Guest79246> ciaooooooooo
[12:02] <dec0d9r> Mamarok : Thank you
[12:03] <Mamarok> Guest79246: English, please. Do you have a question? This is a support channel
[12:07] <Guest79246> ciao
[12:07] <Guest79246> !list
[12:10] <anton> hola buenos dias
[12:11] <bazhang> !es | anton
[12:15] <UX585> Bonjour à tous
[12:15] <fjellrev1> How do I change the default programs in kubuntu, so I can make firefox the default one istead of konqueror ?
[12:16] <Mamarok> fjellrev1: you can change that in the files associations: systemsettings -> Advanced tab
[12:19] <fjellrev1> Mamarok: hey,what you know,even more options revealed :) thanks for the tip. But I also see a whole lot of options I don't know much about. You wouldn't by chance know which one there I should be fiddling with ?
[12:19] <Mamarok> or even simpler, in the Default applications settings (also in systemsettings)
[12:19] <amichair> how do I cancel and old print job that just started printing?
[12:19] <Mamarok> amichair: in the systray, on the printer icon
[12:19] <amichair> Mamarok: no icon there
[12:20] <Mamarok> hm, there should be one, though, that appears when printing
[12:20] <Mamarok> else kill the job in top
[12:20] <amichair> Mamarok: I know... but maybe since it's an old job and I just plugged in the printer, it didn't pop up (bug?)
[12:21] <Mamarok> amichair: no, then it was in the printer memory, you can only hard reset the printer I guess
[12:21] <Mamarok> clear the jobs there I mean
[12:22] <fjellrev1> Mamarok:  thanks for the help,almost nothing left to fix / break here :D
[12:22] <kd8cxd> test
[12:22] <Mamarok> fjellrev1: you are welcome :)
[12:22] <Mamarok> kd8cxd: this is a support channel, do you have a question?
[12:23] <kd8cxd> trying to decide between Xcgar abd Konversation, for an IRC, I'm on freespire 3.0
[12:23] <fjellrev1> Mamarok: have to give all the creds to the latest release, you should have seen me the last two releases when I created havoc whereever I clicked.now I have nothing to fix :D
[12:23] <Peace-> konversation for me is the best
[12:24] <amichair> Mamarok: ok, it just printed out. I was afraid it's gonna be a much longer print :-)
[12:24] <kd8cxd> tnx
[12:24] <Mamarok> Peace-: discussion belongs to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:24] <Mamarok> fjellrev1: nice to hear
[12:26] <amichair> Mamarok: for general knowledge, is there a way to open the printer status (icon/dialog) from the menus or settings?
[12:26] <lohoubb-it> wrong password in info panel! please help
[12:26] <lohoubb-it> how remake it?
[12:26] <Peace-> Mamarok: well it's 2.5 i am here supporting who needs help.. i know thanks
[12:27] <Peace-> 2.5 years
[12:28] <Mamarok> amichair: that very much depends on the printer I think, some have dialogs that pop-up when the printer is running, else you could try with the printer-applet
[12:28] <lohoubb-it> please help
[12:29] <eagles0513875> !ask | lohoubb-it
[12:29] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: he is here with questions since quite some time :)
[12:29] <lohoubb-it> ok wrong password in info panel! how remake it please help
[12:30] <eagles0513875> ahh ok Mamarok
[12:30] <Peace-> lohoubb-it: use recovery kernel
[12:30] <Mamarok> lohoubb-it: also, I just checked #ubuntu, there are people who help, I can't with Gnome
[12:30] <eagles0513875> is it normal behavior on kde when changing the theme to obsidian coast on certain websites the color of the font is a very faint grey then on gmail for instances its white on a dark background
[12:30] <Peace-> lohoubb-it: you will drop into a konsole , like root
[12:30] <lohoubb-it> ok
[12:31] <Peace-> lohoubb-it: you can then create a new user:  adduser
[12:31] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: don't know, I guess it's style related
[12:31] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: dark themes often have that sort of problems
[12:31] <eagles0513875> should i file a bug or not?
[12:31] <Mamarok> against obsidian, yes
[12:31] <Peace-> lohoubb-it: remember to add the new user to admin group
[12:32] <Mamarok> I think the author is on kde-apps.org, file it there
[12:32] <Peace-> adduser NAMEUSER group
[12:32] <lohoubb-it> how do this?
[12:32] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: not in Launchpad or KDE, file it in kde-look.org
[12:32] <lohoubb-it> terminal?
[12:32] <eagles0513875> ok Mamarok
[12:33] <eagles0513875> lohoubb-it: what language do you speak italian?
[12:33] <Peace-> lohoubb-it: reboot and go in the grub menu, choose the first kernel that has recovery tag
[12:33] <lohoubb-it> yes ita
[12:33] <Peace-> lohoubb-it: e allora minghia vedi che c'è il canale
[12:33] <Peace-> !it | lohoubb-it
[12:33] <lohoubb-it> okkkk ;-)
[12:44] <fjellrev1> Anybody here had any success accessing windows partitions ? If I could copy files over to ext4 partition I would be ready to delete vista :)
[12:45] <Peace-> ext4 has not the driver on visto or in any microsoftw system
[12:45] <Peace-> only ext3 can be used by microsoft system
[12:46] <Peace-> ext4 it's too much new
[12:46] <fjellrev1> ARRRGH!, so since I installed ext4 the only way for me to get those files over here is through an usb-disk ?
[12:47] <Peace-> fjellrev1: create a new partition
[12:47] <Peace-> in ntfs or fat or ext3
[12:48] <Peace-> i suggest you ntfs
[12:48] <fjellrev1> Peace-:  So I could have a third partition which I control through kubuntu installed on a ext4 to read and copy the vista files?
[12:49] <Peace-> you can resize your own ext4 partition
[12:49] <Peace-> and create a new one
[12:49] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install partitionmanager
[12:49] <Peace-> the go on system settings
[12:49] <Peace-> advaced
[12:49] <Peace-> partition manager stuff
[12:49] <Peace-> and you can modify your stuff
[12:50] <Peace-> of couse you need a unmounted disk to modify it
[12:50] <Peace-> so maybe it should be usefull use a LIVECD
[12:50] <Peace-> to modify yuour disk
[12:51] <eagles0513875> !xen | eagles0513875
[12:56] <^houbb-it> hello again sorry couldn't read your messages I've made a mistake when re-configuring password! please help
[12:59] <ikonia> ^houbb-it: pardon?
[13:00] <Peace-> he has forgotten the password , and he doesn't know how to create a new user with recovery mode
[13:00] <Peace-> i have explain him 2 time on his language ..
[13:00] <Peace-> -.-''
[13:01] <ikonia> don't need to create a new user, just "passwd $username" in recovery mode
[13:01] <Peace-> ikonia: i think for him it the easier way
[13:01] <Peace-> it's
[13:01] <ikonia> creating a new user is easier than 1 command "passwd username"
[13:02] <Peace-> totally newbie
[13:02] <ikonia> so surly typing one command is easier ?
[13:02] <Peace-> ok i have tried to explain it doesn't get the grub menu
[13:02] <Peace-> so you can goo on with him
[13:02] <^houbb-it> ok understood thx
[13:02] <Peace-> i give up
[13:02] <^houbb-it> grazie ;-)
[13:06] <Peace-> ^houbb-it: a te ti mancano le basi
[13:06] <Peace-> devi studiare un attimo il wiki
[13:06] <Peace-> !indice
[13:06] <Peace-> o shit sorry
[13:06] <^houbb-it> si sto leggendolo
[13:13] <noaXess> !kmenu
[13:13] <noaXess> where is kmenu config rc located?
[13:13] <Peace-> $HOME/.kde/somewhere
[13:13] <Peace-> or config
[13:14] <Peace-> or apps
[13:14] <noaXess> Peace-: somwhere?
[13:14] <Peace-> i think config
[13:15] <Peace-> $HOME/.kde/share/config
[13:15] <noaXess> share?
[13:15] <Peace-> should be there
[13:15] <noaXess> kmenueditrc
[13:15] <noaXess> but there are no items, groups..
[13:16] <noaXess> cause i have a lot of icons in kmenu/kicker with the ? icon.. but i can't find them in kmenuedit.. and in kmenueditrc
[13:16] <Peace-> kickoff stuff^
[13:19] <noaXess> Peace-: so a bug?
[13:19] <ves> hi to all
[13:20] <Peace-> noaXess: no
[13:20] <Peace-> there will be somewhere the config file
[13:21] <noaXess> kikoffrc
[13:22] <Peace-> noaXess: try to ask on #kde
[13:22] <noaXess> ok
[13:22] <Peace-> maybe they knows where you could find the stuff
[13:24] <ves> i think i have a bug on my kubuntu 9.10. The screen goes off every 1 minute and i cant dissable this
[13:25] <Peace-> ?
[13:25] <Peace-> have yiou disabled screen saver?
[13:25] <ves> yes
[13:25] <Peace-> video card?
[13:25] <Peace-> ati nvidia intel?
[13:26] <ves> nvidia
[13:26] <roma_> hi
[13:27] <ves> system settings -> monitor -> power control  off
[13:27] <Peace-> ves: coudl you give me a screenshot of ypour settings on monitor
[13:29] <ves> which one
[13:29] <Peace-> the stuff of screensaver
[13:36] <Peace-> ves: upload on some website
[13:36] <Peace-> ves: i can't get it
[13:36] <bazhang> !imagebin | ves Peace-
[13:37] <puff1> Dear kubuntu users and experts. Is it possible to have widgets embedded into the kdm login screen? I want to have a media player plugin there so that anyone turning on the pc can have access to my music library. And maybe more? Has this ever been done?
[13:37] <ves> ok
[13:38] <Peace-> puff1: i think youi can create a guest user
[13:38] <Peace-> puff1: that it should be your way
[13:38] <puff1> true. And then have it auto login?
[13:39] <Peace-> guest user is a normal user
[13:39] <Peace-> so you can do it
[13:41] <krishnaraj> HI
[13:41] <krishnaraj> anyone using Bilbo Blogger ?
[13:42] <puff1> Humm. Thanks Peace. That sounds like a reasonable workaround... Is there any way of running programs (when kdm start's) that use kdm's xserver (like have it pop up in front of the login options?) I'm pretty sure you can run stuff in the background but no gui pops up...
[13:43] <mojosan> is there any known issues regarding filetransfers over smb on karmic?
[13:43] <krishnaraj> suddenly the toolbox in Bilbo Blogger is not displaying anything!
[13:43] <Peace-> mojosan: here xp-kubuntu works
[13:44] <mojosan> im having major troubles with ubuntu server 9.04 - karmic (fully patched)
[13:46] <krishnaraj> anyone having a similar problem with Bilbo Blogger ?
[13:46] <fjellrev1> Anyone know of any torrent program for kubuntu that works with most torrent sites,like utorrent ?
[13:47] <puff1> ? As in when you click a .torrent url it opens up and works? Or that's just compatible with most clients?
[13:47] <mojosan> filetransfers run at a decent rate until a random amount of data is transferred, then it's down to 30-40kB sec
[13:48] <krishnaraj> err.. no one usign Bilbo Blogger ?
[13:48] <mojosan> never heard of it
[13:48] <krishnaraj> :(
[13:49] <bazhang> krishnaraj, installed from where
[13:49] <krishnaraj> software center
[13:49] <Walex3> for Torrents I like Azureus/Vuze
[13:49] <bazhang> krishnaraj, the package bilbo ? what is the problem you are having
[13:50] <krishnaraj> suddenly the toolbox in Bilbo Blogger is not displaying anything!
[13:50] <bazhang> krishnaraj, this sounds like a bug
[13:50] <krishnaraj> yup, and how can I direct msg u ?.. i am new to this IRC :)
[13:51] <bazhang> krishnaraj, lets keep it in this channel
[13:52] <krishnaraj> ok, i am using quassel IRC, your messages to me are highlighted in orange .. why?
[13:52] <bazhang> krishnaraj, because I prepend my messages with your nickname
[13:53] <krishnaraj> ohk .. I thought it was a direct message .. sorry for the lame questions
[13:53] <bazhang> no problem, we all have the same questions starting out
[13:53] <krishnaraj> and this Bilbo bug happened only after updating ubuntu
[13:53] <krishnaraj> i am using ubuntu with the kde desktop env
[13:54] <bazhang> krishnaraj, lets take a look at launchpad and see if there is a bug for it; you should consider filing one as well or adding to an existing one
[13:54] <bazhang> !bugs | krishnaraj
[13:54] <krishnaraj> i think another guy has already reported this
[13:55] <krishnaraj> one sec let me get the link
[13:55] <bazhang> krishnaraj, do you have a link to the bug report?
[13:56] <krishnaraj> bazhang, here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bilbo/+bug/471068
[13:58] <krishnaraj> looks like have to wait till it is fixed :)
[13:58] <bazhang> krishnaraj, yep that seems to be it, the importance has been changed to high as well
[13:58] <krishnaraj> bazhang, thanks
[14:00] <bazhang> krishnaraj, in lieu of using bilbo, firefox has a plugin you can use called scribefire
[14:00] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1730
[14:00] <bazhang> assuming you use firefox of course
[14:01] <krishnaraj> bazhang, I do have it but unfortunately the preview doesn't work with my theme :( .. i was looking for a windows live writer alternative in KDE
[14:03] <krishnaraj> bazhang, tried blokkal - http://blokkal.sourceforge.net/ but looks like i have to build it myself
[14:03] <krishnaraj> bazhang, tried blokkal - got a few errors trying to bulild it and finally gave up
[14:03] <bazhang> krishnaraj, I see
[14:08] <dany> hi all
[14:09] <dany> I have a notebook HP pavilion, when I click on suspend it doesn't works.. it shuts down but it's impossible to turn it up
[14:09] <dany> any idea?
[14:12] <postfuturist> dany: I had a similar problem.
[14:13] <dany> hi
[14:13] <dany> did you solve it?
[14:13] <postfuturist> try searching on the exact model, there is usually a fix. For me, it was to add pci=nomsi to the grub kernel boot options
[14:14] <postfuturist> what is your exact model?
[14:15] <dany> it a pavilion, the exact model I don't know, I'm trying to see it there is written in some place
[14:16] <postfuturist> dany: Have you seen this page : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/301353
[14:16] <dany> uhm I'm going to watch it thx
[14:17] <warlock43> hey guys syp
[14:17] <warlock43> *sup
[14:17] <dany> thx it seems like my problem
[14:25] <Madkinder> Hi there. Did anyone have a problem during upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[14:25] <Madkinder> I get a notification that a release upgrade is available, but whenever I launch the upgrade it says that my system is up to date
[14:26] <nikitis> How do i launch a wine program on the 2nd monitor?
[14:26] <Madkinder> I googled a lot and found out that there're dozens of Kubuntu upgrade problems but nobody seems to have the one I get
[14:28] <mojosan> Madkinder, i think it's probably because of some dependencie
[14:28] <mojosan> Madkinder google the held back package
[14:30] <Madkinder> mojosan: Thanks for an idea. I just checked my system but found no held packages at all
[14:31] <Madkinder> I guess aptitude search ~ahold should show them, right?
[14:31] <mojosan> no idea, normally apt-get upgrade shows wich package is held back
[14:33] <mibog> Hi. I can't type @ or ~ in Konsole (within X). I tried all settings but nothing helped. What else could I try?
[14:33] <Madkinder> mibog: what symbols do you get instead?
[14:34] <Madkinder> mojosan: Could there be any other reasons? I'm pretty sure nothing is held
[14:34] <mibog> Madkinder: nothing
[14:35] <mibog> if I press AltGr + <key> two times some folder contents are displayed
[14:35] <robin0800> Madkinder: wrong keyboard set
[14:36] <mibog> where to change it for the konsole or xterm?
[14:37] <robin0800> mibog: in settings
[14:38] <Madkinder> is there any way to "force" an upgrade? I know it may sound a stupid thing but I don't know what else can I try to do to upgrade my system :(
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:52] <mojosan> now im down to that the trouble probably is related to a onboard nic with forcedeth kernel module, im trying to run ftp from my server to my workstation to dump files, and after a random amount of data the transfer freezes and my ssh connection to the workstation gets disconnected. is forcedeth nic's crap for linux?
[14:53] <palolo^> hi, after upgrade to 9.10 , i can't login with kernel 6.31, put the pwd, black screen and login screen again
[14:53] <terppa> hi all
[15:03] <erode> ehi
[15:03] <erode> sono nuovo di kubuntu
[15:03] <erode> prima usavo ubuntu
[15:03] <erode> ma come si visualizzano le cartelle nascoste(quelle col punto davanti)?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> !it | erode
[15:04] <erode> ooooooooh sorry
[15:04] <BluesKaj> it's ok
[15:05] <erode> but you can answer me?!?
[15:07] <erode> BluesKaj: please can you answer me how can see my invisible folder??(are folder with a front point)
[15:10] <Albi> erode: is it a hidden folder?
[15:11] <Dragnslcr> erode- in Dolphin?
[15:12] <erode> yes hidden folders in dolphin
[15:12] <Dragnslcr> View -> Show Hidden Files
[15:13] <Dragnslcr> Default keyboard shortcut is alt-.
[15:15] <mojosan> fcking crap forcedeth
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !language | mojosan
[15:16] <erode> why with ctrl+h i can't see hidden folders in kubuntu?!
[15:17] <mojosan> im sorry, the frustration just builds up
[15:17] <erode> Dragnslcr: why with ctrl+h i can't see hidden folders in kubuntu?!
[15:19] <BluesKaj> mojosan, I use ssh , but I'm not familiar with forcedeth, so I'm not sure what problem could be
[15:19] <rerushg> erode: command hor hidden in Dolphin is ALT + . (period)
[15:20] <rerushg> for
[15:20] <abhi_> hi all
[15:20] <abhi_> i hav problem in kubuntu 9.10
[15:21] <abhi_> i can play media files in kubuntu using amarok/kaffeine
[15:21] <erode> rerushg: thankssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[15:21] <abhi_> but can't play using totem/rythmbox
[15:21] <abhi_> no sound at all
[15:21] <abhi_> files play well
[15:21] <abhi_> but with no sound
[15:21] <rerushg> erode: no problem.. :)
[15:21] <abhi_> what can i do?
[15:21] <abhi_> any help?
[15:22] <varanus> abhi_: try configuring the sound channels from the configure tabs
[15:22] <varanus> abhi_: from the least i know you should configure them to use alsa
[15:22] <abhi_> how?
[15:23] <varanus> abhi_: i don't hoave the programs installed but there should be a configure panel in each program to let you configure the sound output
[15:23] <abhi_> okk
[15:23] <rerushg> abhi: veranus is correct ... also check config in apps for sound driver..... xine or gstreamer
[15:23] <BluesKaj> abhi_, those are gnome apps , perhaps you don't have the propergtk- libs installed
[15:23] <BluesKaj> err gtk-libs
[15:23] <varanus> abhi_: i'm sorry but i can't help you more cause as i said i don't have the programms installed
[15:24] <abhi_> hmm
[15:24] <BluesKaj> isn't xine the default in amarok?
[15:24] <abhi_> yes
[15:24] <abhi_> totem/rythmbox using gsteramer
[15:24] <rerushg> abhi: probably best to configure all to use one or the other..... (xine or gstreamer)
[15:25] <varanus> it follows the system settings>multimedia configuration amarok
[15:25] <BluesKaj>  xine-plugins
[15:25] <BluesKaj> abhi_, I don't see the need for havinf so many media players
[15:25] <mojosan> BluesKaj no link between ssh - forcedeth (nic driver/module)
[15:25] <abhi_> i hav both gnome & kde installed
[15:26] <abhi_> so i hav them all
[15:26] <BluesKaj> I use one , vlc for all media
[15:26] <abhi_> in gnome, everything is okk
[15:26] <BluesKaj> mojosan, what is forcedeth?
[15:26] <abhi_> but problem is in KDE
[15:26] <mojosan> BluesKaj its the kernel module for my nic
[15:27] <abhi_> in KDE, gnome media player (totem/rythmbox) work with so sound
[15:27] <mojosan> seems like it crashes when load gets to high
[15:27] <abhi_> no sound
[15:27] <robin0800> abhi_: I like songbird for music and vlc for video
[15:27] <vverner> hi all, does anybody know how to eliminate the splash-sound in KUbunut 9.1 ? It's Loud.
[15:27] <abhi_> i hav vlc
[15:27] <abhi_> its cool
[15:28] <mojosan> abhi_ do you get sound if you run mediaplayer as root?
[15:28] <abhi_> mojosan: i am testing
[15:28] <robin0800> abhi_: so is songbird it can look like itunes
[15:28] <BluesKaj> mojosan, do you have /etc/resolv.conf  and /etc/network/interfaces setup with IP addresses and nameservers for your LAN ?
[15:29] <mojosan> BluesKaj i only use static hosts, but yes everything should be ship shape, but its shit shape :)
[15:30] <mojosan> 105 packets transmitted, 65 received, +6 errors, 38% packet loss, time 104270ms
[15:30] <mojosan> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8999.499/14372.185/20201.023/3313.358 ms, pipe 21
[15:30] <mojosan> oops
[15:31] <vverner> does that still count as the internet ?
[15:31] <vverner> send a pigeon...
[15:31] <elena_> ciao
[15:31] <mojosan> thats not internet, but lan after nic goes bananas
[15:32] <vverner> Ai caramba
[15:33] <mojosan> also it made my router state that it used 151% ram hehe
[15:33] <BluesKaj> mojosan, port mapped to 22 ?
[15:33] <vverner> Nice!
[15:33] <mojosan> it could be a combo of many things i suppose, but my guess is the forcedeth
[15:34] <mojosan> BluesKaj i only access my homenetwork over vpn
[15:34] <mojosan> while at work, like now
[15:35] <vverner> so soing a powercycle is prob. no option ?
[15:35] <vverner> err. doing
[15:35] <mojosan> i guess ill have to wait until i get back home, to use the swedish method
[15:36] <mojosan> thats, hard reset
[15:36] <vverner> which means to you ? cause all I could think of was showing it pictures of nice girls ?
[15:37] <vverner> ah ok
[15:38] <BluesKaj> mojosan, maybe you could ask in #networking
[15:38] <Hajuu> [23:37] -ChanServ- [#jokes] Welcome to the jokes channel for #kubuntu. Twylight is the leader yay.
[15:38] <Hajuu> gay
[15:38] <abhi_> mojosan: r u there?
[15:39] <vverner> probbably "working" on it ?
[15:39] <Peace-> guys you can install kdebase-dev-kde4?
[15:39] <abhi_> i test totem/rythmbox KDE as root
[15:39] <abhi_> sound is working now
[15:40] <abhi_> how can i enable sound as well as normal user?
[15:40] <mojosan> abhi_ then your user have no rights for the sound dev
[15:40] <abhi_> how can i solve it?
[15:41] <abhi_> how can i listen sound as normal user?
[15:41] <abhi_> in kde
[15:41] <abhi_> any idea?
[15:42] <vverner> abhi_: how did you disabled it in the first place ?
[15:42] <xerei> yo!
[15:42] <abhi_> i didn't do anything
[15:42] <vverner> sound is (way too loud even) working from scratch here
[15:42] <xerei> XD
[15:43] <xerei> is every1 here using Kubuntu?
[15:43] <abhi_> when i log in as normal user in KDE sound not work for gnome apps
[15:43] <vverner> I thought I would jump 2 meters when the first splash noise came on
[15:43] <xerei> aah! this is Kubuntu heaven
[15:43] <abhi_> when i try them as root, sound is working
[15:43] <abhi_> that all
[15:44] <xerei> i LOVE this Kubuntu
[15:44] <abhi_> but in gnome, everything is normal
[15:44] <abhi_> what can i do for KDE?
[15:44] <vverner> hmm blind spot for me, sorry
[15:44] <mojosan> vverner turn down your speakers :P
[15:44] <abhi_> how can i hear sound as normal user as well?
[15:45] <abhi_> any help from anybody?
[15:45] <xerei> hmm...sound is working lovely here
[15:45] <yofel> Peace-: nope, doesn't seem to have an installation candidate
[15:45] <xerei> i didnt even have 2 put the speakers in
[15:45] <yofel> Peace-: (in karmic)
[15:45] <mojosan> abhi_ im not sure, years since last time i had that problem, googled it?
[15:46] <abhi_> mojosan: yes
[15:46] <abhi_> but no solution
[15:46] <xerei> yo, does anybody here know if i can get a dynamic IP on Kubuntu easily?
[15:46] <abhi_> :-((
[15:46] <Peace-> yofel: ok thank you so much man
[15:46] <llutz> xerei: sudo dhclient ethX
[15:46] <yofel> Peace-: kdebase-dev-kde4 was only available in hardy, kdebase-dev is available in all releases except karmic
[15:46] <xerei> k, thx
[15:47] <vverner> mojosan: the splash noise doesn't react to volume buttuns, that's just the problem you know. Late night listend to some quiet tracks, (on al Laptop with Harmankardon speakers built in) en than shut down, WHAMMOOOOOOO NOISE. :(
[15:47] <abhi_> how everything just work fine in gnome, but not in KDE?
[15:47] <Peace-> yofel: mm but i get the same messange with kdebase-dev , i think that package is the dev package for kde3
[15:47] <abhi_> i wonder
[15:47] <abhi_> KDE apps works well in gnome
[15:47] <xerei> yo, whats the safest version of Linux of em all?
[15:48] <abhi_> but gnome apps not working
[15:48] <Peace-> yofel: infact i see a lots of qt3 in the packages that kdebase-dev needs
[15:48] <vverner> only solution I found so far is plugging in a headphone before shutdown
[15:48] <yofel> Peace-: nope, it's for kde4 since intrepid (install devscripts and  run 'rmadison kdebase-dev' to see the version in all releases)
[15:48] <abhi_> its disgusting 4 me
[15:48] <Peace-> yofel: look at this  libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev libsasl2-dev lua50 qt3-dev-tool
[15:48] <xerei> does nobody know the safest of em all??
[15:49] <Peace-> yofel: if you install kdebase-dev it need of them
[15:49] <abhi_> xerei: i think its ubuntu/kubuntu
[15:49] <yofel> abhi_: rhythmbox? are you sure that pulseaudio is properly configured in for you in kde?
[15:49] <xerei> ok
[15:49] <xerei> i got BackTrack on a comp, it seems ok..but is it the best?
[15:50] <abhi_> i think yes
[15:50] <abhi_> i use the deafult settings
[15:50] <vverner> xerei: the safest Linux is the Linux that is never online which is why I recommand Tele2ADSL ;)
[15:50] <yofel> abhi_: by default kde doesn't  use pulseaudio
[15:50] <xerei> this 1 is Kubuntu 9.10, other PC got BackTrack 3, nd my 3rd PC got Mandriva
[15:50] <xerei> i didnt like Solaris..
[15:51] <abhi_> yofel: should i make pulse audio my 1st choice in kde?
[15:51] <xerei> Tele2ADSL? srsly??
[15:51] <xerei> gz..so i DID upgrade..
[15:51] <vverner> Joke man...
[15:51] <xerei> oh..so i still got Telenor then?
[15:51] <abhi_> i hav pulse audio entry in sound device list
[15:51] <abhi_> should i prefer it over default settings?
[15:52] <vishesh> Hi. My bluetooth dongle doesn't seem to be working properly. Does anyone have any experience with bluetooth over here?
[15:52] <xerei> yo, vverner, u know any Linux that got built-in dynamic IP or ip Changer?
[15:52] <vverner> most Linux-flavours use the same Kernel update route, and the problem mostly exist between the keyboard and the chair.
[15:52] <xerei> XD
[15:52] <xerei> im new 2 linux, srsly
[15:52] <vverner> xerei: nope
[15:52] <yofel> abhi_: not sure, I somehow got pulse to work in kde here but don't have it as the preferred option, check in pavucontrol if something is muted maybe?
[15:53] <xerei> i tried Linux ONCE b4, but then i didnt like it, Kubuntu 7.04
[15:53] <vverner> well we're at 9.1 ow, how does it feel ?
[15:53] <xerei> im using 9.10
[15:53] <xerei> but i used 7.04 for cpl of days b4
[15:54] <yofel> xerei: well, kde4 is quite different from kde3 ^^
[15:54] <xerei> i had 2 use my backup comp cuz i crashed the other..
[15:54] <xerei> yofel: ya, i like this 1
[15:54] <vverner> me too, just gradually updated to this, goes automagically
[15:54] <yofel> xerei: hehe, me too :)
[15:54] <xerei> i used windows Vista on my main comp b4 this 1..
[15:54] <abhi_> yofel: pavucontrol is not installed
[15:54] <vverner> new version is sleek yeah
[15:55] <xerei> nd i was a member of "X-Team" ya know, programmin crew, nd i got hacked like every 2nd day XD
[15:55] <abhi_> i check it in konsole
[15:55] <yofel> abhi_: you should install it if you want to use pulseaudio, pulse doesn't care about the kde sound settings  but has it's own config tool -> pavucontrol
[15:55] <vverner> this is also a vista laptop with just enough HDD space to make that run. the rest is for Ubuntu
[15:55] <xerei> cool
[15:56] <xerei> have any1 here ever been hacked while using Kubuntu?
[15:56] <abhi_> yofel: okk, i am trying it
[15:56] <xerei> no1? nice! i love Kubuntu now!
[15:57] <xerei> the best thing with Linux: 1) its free, 2) safer than windows. 3) faster than windows..what more can a man have?
[15:57] <llutz> xerei: i guess most of them even don't know that they were hacked
[15:57] <xerei> but on my visa
[15:57] <xerei> vista*
[15:57] <vverner> well its not easy to really hack in Ubunut since you have even tighter rules for running sh*t than in Vista
[15:57] <xerei> it always missed some files
[15:57] <xerei> nd when i was surfin on the net
[15:57] <xerei> the explorer closed
[15:57] <xerei> notepad opened saying: HAHA! OWNAGE"
[15:58] <xerei> nd then i was sitting there, watching as my comp shut down
[15:58] <llutz> pebkac
[15:58] <vverner> but for fun, install Apache open up port 80 of your router, wait two days and read the logs, amazing
[15:58] <xerei> ehh..gimme a sec..gotta check if my router got open port: 80
[15:58] <vverner> it hasn't by default its the HTTP port
[15:59] <xerei> mm..seems 2 b closed
[15:59] <vverner> and all the exploits you see them trying are for the windows platform so don't worry as long as the pinguin guids you ;)
[16:00] <xerei> i love the Linux Penguin
[16:00] <xerei> its cooler 2 watch than a boring window in the wilderness
[16:00] <vverner> Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house
[16:00] <xerei> btw..i got a question
[16:00] <vverner> fire
[16:00] <xerei> my mate says that Windows is harder 2 track down than Linux..is it true?
[16:01] <xerei> XD nice 1
[16:01] <vishesh> What do you mean track down?
[16:01] <xerei> ya know, crackin server pass, loggin in etc
[16:01] <xerei> the time when they actually catch ya like:
[16:01] <xerei> thats the IP, there he lives
[16:01] <vverner> you leave a traill wether in win or lin
[16:01] <vishesh> It doesn't matter which system you are on. the IP is independent.
[16:01] <xerei> thats creepy..i hate the message saying: "IP recorded"
[16:02] <vverner> use a proxy
[16:02] <xerei> i did..! but it caught it!
[16:02] <xerei> it got my IP, no joke!!
[16:02] <xerei> 80.212 wont say the rest
[16:02] <vverner> yeah the proxy did, the outside world didn't
[16:03] <xerei> scary anyway XD
[16:03] <xerei> how comes my dog always wanna sit on my lap when im busy?
[16:03] <vverner> youre IP say's your from Norway ?
[16:03] <xerei> yep
[16:04] <vverner> quassel@ti112210a080-0104.bb.online.no
[16:04] <xerei> but im 25% german though
[16:04] <xerei> nd 25% Islandic
[16:04] <vverner> fun combi, I'm from Holland and since IceSave I own you 25 % ;)
[16:04] <xerei> im from no way
[16:04] <xerei> aww man!
[16:04] <xerei> XD
[16:04] <vverner> joke!
[16:05] <xerei> Holland..i know a cpl of guys from there
[16:05] <vverner> but just to make it clear that "broadcasting" an IP-adres isn't harmfull at all, stronger communication on the internet would be impossible
[16:05] <xerei> i got a guy on MSN, hes 11 years old, nd hes programmin with a LOT of langs
[16:06] <llutz> !ot
[16:06] <vverner> we grow them wizzkids
[16:06] <xerei> hes programmin: C#, c++, python, batch, php, html, java etc etc
[16:06] <xerei> hes 11 yrs..nd better than me
[16:06] <vverner> we grow them wizzkids
[16:06] <xerei> wizzkid...
[16:06] <xerei> hmm..ive heard that b4
[16:07] <xerei> cant remember where..my head isnt working 2 much ATM, slept 2 lil last night
[16:07] <xerei> how comes server-hosters r easier 2 hack when they use windows?
[16:08] <xerei> Kubuntu makes me safe =D
[16:09] <abhi_> yofel: r u there?
[16:09] <yofel> abhi_: yep
[16:09] <vverner> not many exploits are used, remember you belong to a max 5% of computing population, while windows still is over 80 %
[16:09] <xerei> idk whos here nd not..but im AFk 4 a sec..
[16:09] <abhi_> yofel: thanks a lot bro
[16:09] <xerei> hmm..
[16:09] <abhi_> i problem is solved
[16:09] <yofel> abhi_: works now?
[16:09] <abhi_> yes
[16:09] <yofel> :)
[16:09] <xerei> but yet..i try hacking a LOT of systems...somehow i cant get into linux
[16:10] <abhi_> i using pulse audio for sound
[16:10] <xerei> nd i failed at hacking mac epicly..
[16:10] <abhi_> everything works like a charm :)
[16:10] <llutz> !ot | xerei
[16:10] <xerei> the ubotto talked 2 me!
[16:10] <xerei> ubottu*
[16:10] <xerei> cool..hi ubottu
[16:10] <abhi_> thanz a lot to u again
[16:11] <Hekos> hey, im searching for the kiosktook within 9.10.. isnt kiosktool4 ready yet ?
[16:11] <vverner> well it aint impossible but it usually takes a lot of effort, like hostaging the sysops wife to get the password and so on....
[16:11] <xerei> hm...maybe hes busy..anyway ima get a cig...perhaps ill b more awake then
[16:11] <xerei> vverner: brb a sec, wont take long
[16:11] <vverner> k
[16:11] <vishesh> Does anyone over here have any experience with Bluetooth dongles ?
[16:12] <vverner> vishesh: yeah but all negative :(
[16:12] <llutz> !anyone | vishesh
[16:13] <vverner> ubottu: I tried that approche but nobody seems to know how to kill the splash-sound :(
[16:13] <vishesh> ubottu : You have a point! Well my bluetooth dongle was working great via blueman but then I decided to switch it off. And since then it hasn't been working. Even If I switch it on / manually remove it.
[16:13] <vverner> ah good to know
[16:14] <llutz> vishesh: kde4-bluetooth-framework is heavily broken
[16:14] <vishesh> here is the complete discription : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8321525#post8321525 but nobody seems to know how.
[16:14] <mojosan> is it like in windows that i have to lock 100mbit mode on nic's?
[16:14] <llutz> vishesh: does "hcitool dev" show the dongle?
[16:15] <vishesh> llutz: Nope... but lsusb does.
[16:15] <yofel> !me | vverner
[16:15] <llutz> vishesh: macbook?
[16:15] <vishesh> llutz: What do you mean?
[16:16] <llutz> vishesh: sry, just now read"desktop", so it's not a MacBook
[16:16] <vishesh> illutz : oh. No it isn't. And it was working great yesterday, before I thought of conserving power. Bah!
[16:17] <vverner> thank you yofel
[16:17] <skar> hi, i've got karmic with all updates installed. when the laptop goes to powersaving after 10 mins, it sometimes switches off instead abruptly and on booting again, i lose data like ff, opera tabs and also my panel positions etc
[16:18] <edgy> Hi, I am getting this Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode message everytime I boot my kubuntu, if I used gdm instead of kdm it works  properly
[16:18] <skar> it has happened twice today. anyway to disable power saving? it seems karmic has lots of bugs. my hidden wifi ap isn't detected too.
[16:19] <vverner> karmic has my wireless messed up too, the netbook works super but the desktop-lap-top is having an issue with the router
[16:20] <yofel> skar: knetworkmanager can't see hidden ssid's in karmic - known bug (see the release notes)
[16:20] <xerei> back
[16:20] <vverner> wb
[16:21] <xerei> wow..ubottu got a brain XD
[16:21] <xerei> this is awesome
[16:21] <yofel> skar: as a workaround you could use network-manager-gnome (the bin is called nm-applet)
[16:21] <vverner> or at least he thinks he has ;)
[16:21] <xerei> XD
[16:22] <xerei> hmm...Kubuntu dznt seem 2 have any built-in games..yet theres so much 2 explore here
[16:22] <vishesh> llutz: Any idea?
[16:22] <skar> yofel: thanks, i did try that but somehow it too didn't work. more importantly, after 10 mins, instead of dimming the display, laptop gets shut off abruptly. probably something to do with not being able to set a display mode.
[16:22] <llutz> vishesh: unfortunately not
[16:23] <xerei> Skar: oh thx!
[16:23] <skar> as the screen flickers before shutting off. all was in jaunty though :) seems like this is the vista of linux :(
[16:23] <llutz> vishesh: i'm using a couple of cheap bt-dongles, but never have seen that issue
[16:23] <yofel> xerei: install the kdegames package, it's not installed by default afaik
[16:23] <xerei> yofel: but i like exploring whats not games 2..
[16:23] <yofel> hehe ^^
[16:23] <xerei> skar: thx, u jzt reminded me..i gotta fix my lappy
[16:24] <skar> xerei: np. my pleasure :)
[16:24] <llutz> vishesh: tried "rfkill unblock 1" ?
[16:24] <xerei> its been dead for 1 nd a half year XD
[16:24] <skar> XD?
[16:24] <xerei> im like: ya, ill fix it 2morrow. when 2morrow has arrived: 2morrow, 2morrow
[16:24] <varanus> guys does someone know how to change the default download/save directory for dolphin/konqueror? cause every time the open folder/save file opens to the ~/documents
[16:24] <xerei> nd now its been 1 nd a half year..yep yep..
[16:25] <xerei> hm..fixin comp is like homework
[16:25] <xerei> u always w8 till last sec
[16:27] <xerei> its not illegal burnin linux 2 CDs..right?
[16:27] <skar> xerei: my advice, no kubuntu + karmic, maybe karmic with gnome or kde + jaunty. i took the plunge and it's been wasting my time now for 2 weeks.
[16:28] <eagles0513875> xerei: no its not then it wouldnt be open source
[16:28] <skar> xerei: nope, it's ok, if it's just plain (k)ubuntu isos
[16:28] <xerei> its jzt iso..
[16:28] <xerei> ehm...the "its ok if open source"..does it count 4 Solaris aswell?
[16:29] <skar> xerei: dunno you need to read the EULA/license from where you got solaris
[16:29] <xerei> oh..ok..gimme a sec
[16:29] <llutz> read CDDL for opensolaris
[16:30] <skar> xerei: ok good luck with laptop. byee.
[16:30] <xerei> bye? u g2g?
[16:30] <skar> yup
[16:31] <xerei> k, peace
[16:31] <skar> lol, peace
[16:31] <xerei> nd thx..ill need luck
[16:31] <skar> yup, kde is so broken, good luck.
[16:31] <xerei> ehm..
[16:31] <xerei> its win XP on it
[16:34] <ezra_> hi guys
[16:34] <xerei> yo
[16:34] <ezra_> xerei: hi
[16:34] <xerei> sup?
[16:34] <yofel> !hi
[16:35] <xerei> hmm..
[16:35] <xerei> !hi
[16:35] <xerei> cool
[16:36] <toriam> HI! Good morning! I have a question about kopete and jasper.
[16:37] <yofel> xerei: you can pm ubottu if you want to play around with the factoids ;)
[16:37] <toriam> Not having much luck in the forums.
[16:37] <xerei> wicked
[16:37] <xerei> k, whts ur question abt Kopete?
[16:37] <toriam> yes, I am.. hahahha
[16:37] <xerei> !ubottu
[16:38] <xerei> !foo
[16:38] <xerei> =D
[16:38] <xerei> !foo is fo
[16:38] <xerei> !foo is foo
[16:38] <xerei> ok..
[16:39] <toriam> I can't get video chat to work, I've succesfully compiled jasper, and added all relevant packages. still no go.
[16:39] <yofel> xerei: please use /msg ubottu ... if you want to play around
[16:39] <xerei> !fo is also bar
[16:39] <xerei> !foo is also bar
[16:39] <xerei> it wont reply on typos
[16:39] <toriam> Configure sees my cam.
[16:40] <vishesh> llutz: Yup. It's not blocked. Now I'm thinking of booting on to a livecd to see if it works...
[16:40] <toriam> BTW, the netbook tech pre is fantastic
[16:41] <toriam> this is my major gripe
[16:41] <toriam> and I cant get last.fm to run on amarok
[16:41] <nalioth> xerei: please leave the bot alone
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:42] <xerei> hes funny
[16:45] <yofel> toriam: did you install updates after installation? There were last.fm issues with amarok that are supposed to be fixed.
[16:45] <vishesh> I was checking my system logs and I've come across a line which says "Parsing /etc/bluetooth/serial.conf failed: No such file or directory". Could anyone else with working bluetooth check if that file exists on their comp. Please.
[16:46] <llutz> vishesh: not here
[16:46] <xerei> !hi
[16:46] <xerei> =)
[16:46] <toriam> yofel=> I'll have to check on it, but im pretty sure i did
[16:46] <vishesh> llutz: Okay. Thanks.
[16:47] <toriam> but im more concerned about kopete
[16:47] <toriam> i reinstalled also
[16:47] <OpenSourcedNick> Why would you recommend me to install kubuntu over ubuntu on my laptop?
[16:47] <yofel> llutz: apt-file says that there is no package in karmic that supplies that file...
[16:47] <yofel> err vishesh ^^^
[16:47] <bbigras> OpenSourcedNick: because KDE rocks
[16:48] <toriam> opensource; its more functional, intellegent, and prettier
[16:48] <OpenSourcedNick> hmm, however it takes a lot of resources, does it have things that it CAN do and gnome can't?
[16:48] <vishesh> llutz : Oh! Weird ... then why is ksystemlog showing such an error.
[16:48] <juki> you can install most apps in both of them
[16:49] <vishesh> yofel : oops .. see llutz message
[16:49] <OpenSourcedNick> oh wait but the kubuntu has the neat Kalander and all the Koriginizer I use to like using when I had mandriva
[16:49] <OpenSourcedNick> hmm... does koriginizer synchronize with google calendar and google-other-stuff ?
[16:50] <llutz> vishesh: kde4-bluetooth-framework is heavily broken
[16:51] <vishesh> llutz : You may be right. I think I'll boot into gnome and check it out. Thanks anyways. :-)
[16:51] <toriam> opensourcednick; id like to nkow too
[16:51] <OpenSourcedNick> lol
[16:51] <OpenSourcedNick> well I'm getting my HTC hero soon and it would be wonderful to sync them all together, Korginizer with the HTC HERO and the google what-nots
[16:52] <yofel> toriam: you can use <tab> to auto-complete nicks in your irc-client ;)
[16:52] <yofel> toriam: like open<tab> -> OpenSourcedNick
[16:52] <OpenSourcedNick> yeah, it's fun :D
[16:52] <OpenSourcedNick> makes you look like you took effort and wrote down the nick
[16:53] <yofel> OpenSourcedNick: yep :D
[16:53] <mojosan> oh man im about to give it all up
[16:53] <OpenSourcedNick> anyways, does KOrganizer sync with google calendar?
[16:53] <OpenSourcedNick> mojosan, what's wrong? please refrain from jumping out the window
[16:54] <mojosan> OpenSourcedNick my onboard nic keep "crashing" when transfering amounts of data
[16:55] <OpenSourcedNick> onboard nic?
[16:55] <toriam> OpenSourcedNick: yeah i did, didnt know about the tab thingie
[16:55] <mojosan> OpenSourcedNick sure is
[16:55] <mojosan> OpenSourcedNick uses forcedeth
[16:56] <toriam> i dont chat often
[16:56] <OpenSourcedNick> mojosan, I wish I could help you but it's like chinese to me
[16:56] <mojosan> OpenSourcedNick to me to, and i cant find anything on google that tells me that its a common problem either
[16:57] <OpenSourcedNick> sry :/
[16:57] <xerei> mmmm..
[16:57] <xerei> guys...
[16:57] <OpenSourcedNick> toriam, I found a little about connecting KOrganizer to google calendar
[16:57] <xerei> how can i transfer a file 2 USB stick?
[16:57] <OpenSourcedNick> toriam, seems to be possible
[16:58] <toriam> OpenSourcedNick: awesome, i used googcal often and would love to sync
[16:58] <OpenSourcedNick> http://www.yeap.de/blog2.0/archives/206-Accessing-Google-Calendar-from-KOrganizer.html
[16:58] <OpenSourcedNick> some explinations
[16:58] <OpenSourcedNick> on how to do so
[16:58] <FloodBotK2> OpenSourcedNick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <llutz> xerei: copy it (cp, konqueror, dolphin)
[16:59] <xerei> o....k
[16:59] <xerei> ehm..
[16:59] <xerei> it dznt seem like my comp finds the pen
[17:00] <vishesh> Nope! Didn't work. I think there is some problem with either the kernel or the dongle.
[17:01] <xerei> emh..ill try..restarting
[17:09] <xerei> aah worked..
[17:09] <xerei> damn..my neck hurts
[17:10] <xerei> haha
[17:10] <xerei> "U have been terminated"
[17:17] <marc__>  
[17:17] <pulaski> hello, I're recently installed 9.19 karmic koala.  My sound card appears to work fine with notifications and aramock however I get no sound through firefox.  Can someone suggest a way to troubleshoot the problem or a more appropriate channel to seek out more information?
[17:23] <hakim> hello everybody
[17:26] <toriam> pulaski: add the firefox fash plugins
[17:27] <pulaski> toriam: thanks for the response, I'm looking at the firefox help now
[17:27] <neomantra> pulaski: just in case that doesn't help, do you have more than one sound card in your computer?  i once had a problem where amarok, etc would play out of one card but firefox stuff would default to my onboard sound card
[17:28] <pulaski> neomantra: Thanks, No I only have the one sound card.  SB X-Fi which is the reason I went from 9.04 to 9.10
[17:29] <antman91> hey what was the new update to wine??
[17:29] <yofel> hm, maybe ffx tries to use pulseaudio?
[17:29] <toriam> pulaski: is your card an intel card?
[17:30] <yofel> antman91: you mean the wine beta package? wine1.2
[17:30] <toriam> pulaski:  i had prolems with the onboard card on my gateway laptop
[17:30] <antman91> yofel: yes
[17:31] <pulaski> toriam: Thanks, no it as no relationship with intel as far as I know.  Its manufactured by Creative and getting the driver was a long wait.
[17:31] <antman91> yofel:  well i have 1.1.33 that updated today.
[17:31] <antman91> yofel:  i had an update today that had something to do with wine'
[17:32] <yofel> antman91: then you probably have the winehq repository enabled, karmic has 1.1.31
[17:33] <antman91> yofel:  well how do i update past that??
[17:34] <antman91> yofel:  i did everything it said to on wine wiki
[17:34] <antman91> yofel:  i have all the scott richy and other keys and what not
[17:34] <yofel> antman91: huh? but 1.1.33 is the newest release
[17:35] <LinuxAl> hi everybody
[17:35] <antman91> yofel:  ok i thought you said 1.2 was out
[17:41] <antman91> houldawent
[17:41] <yofel> antman91: sry, was away
[17:41] <yofel> no, 1.2 isn't released yet
[17:42] <yofel> the package is called 1.2 since wine 1.1.X will result in 1.2 in the future
[18:19] <pulaski> does anyone know of a channel for firefox discussion?
[18:27] <brent0n> hi everyone
[18:27] <brent0n> what's crackin'?
[18:35]  * JediMaster sighs
[18:38] <JediMaster> How do I stop my monitor dimming after 15 minutes? I've disabled it in at least 4 places and it still dims after exactly 15 min (doesn't put the screen on standbye)
[18:40] <MarkusK_> Hi. I am running Karmic. How do I stop Akonadi from starting? It tries to do the migration thing but fails. Programs work anyway, but many programs trigger the migration attempt (Kmail, Kontact, Konversation).
[18:41] <MarkusK_> The affected programs are not responsive whiel Akonadi is trying to start.
[18:41] <JediMaster> ok, system settings->display->power control is disabled, system settings->advanced->power management->all profiles set to performance, the performance profile has everything disabled, and under display it's all disabled too, and yet it still dims after 15 minutes
[18:41] <JediMaster> even when watching videos in movie player
[18:42] <MarkusK_> I would prefer to completely disable Akonadi, since it currently hogs more than 200MB of disk even though it it not running while all my data is accessible anyway.
[18:45] <Darakiss> Hello, a friend of mine has his /home partition full and Kubuntu 9.10 won't boot anymore saying his home is out of disk space; I told him to boot with the LiveCD and delete some files in his home to free up disk space but apparently he can't delete any files (his home is ext4). Any clue on how he could free up disk space on his home partition using the LiveCD?
[18:45] <Darakiss> Thx in advance
[18:46] <MarkusK_> Live CDs typically register all partitions that they find as "read only" so that you cannot accidentally mess up the computer you try a Live system on.
[18:46] <MarkusK_> Being root, it is possible to mount a disk read-write from the command line.
[18:47] <Darakiss> MarkusK_: so he could do that using terminal running in LiveCD?
[18:47] <MarkusK_> Yes
[18:47] <MarkusK_> (I know of no simpler way for doing this in Kubuntu)
[18:48] <MarkusK_> you can run the command "mount" on a Konsole to find out which partitions are mounted with which parameters.
[18:48] <MarkusK_> You probably will see "ro" as an option on the mounted home.
[18:49] <Darakiss> MarkusK_: is there a default sudo password for the LiveCD?
[18:49] <JediMaster> anyone have an idea on this screen blanking after 15 min?
[18:49] <MarkusK_> "sudo su" should make you into root on a Live CD
[18:49] <JediMaster> (of inactivity)
[18:49] <Darakiss> MarkusK_: thank you very much, I'll try that
[18:50] <DarkriftX> isnt "sudo su" a bit redundant?
[18:50] <MarkusK_> Darakoss: good luck
[18:50] <MarkusK_> Darakiss: good luck
[18:51] <cokoprens> hi i lost my sound control from main taskbar
[18:51] <MarkusK_> DarkriftX: no, su asks for a root password; sudo asks for no password on a Live CD
[18:51] <DarkriftX> oh
[18:51] <DarkriftX> that is odd
[18:51] <cokoprens> can somebody help me?
[18:51] <yofel> DarkriftX, MarkusK_: the proper way to become root with sudo is 'sudo -i' not 'sudo su'
[18:52] <MarkusK_> yofel: interesting; "sudo su" worked on the Live CDs I used so far
[18:52] <twoten> when I try to activate my nVideo hardware driver nothing happens - what gives?
[18:53] <cokoprens> anybody hear me :)
[18:53] <twoten> here's what I do to get root on a live cd:
[18:53] <twoten> open a terminal and type sudo passwd
[18:53] <yofel> MarkusK_: sudo su works too, but sudo -i is the... sudo way ^^
[18:54] <twoten> type a temporary root password like fred
[18:54] <twoten> then do  a su root and typre fred and you're in!
[18:54] <yofel> cokoprens: you mean kmix?
[18:54] <thrz> hi, any idea how can I get a huawei hdspa modem working in 9.10?
[18:55] <cokoprens> i dont know
[18:55] <cokoprens> my ubuntu is 9.10
[18:55] <yofel> twoten: in the "Hardware Drivers" application?
[18:55] <twoten> how do I get my nVidia driver working in 9.10? the damn thing won't activate!
[18:55] <BluesKaj> !ask | cokoprens
[18:55] <twoten> yes
[18:56] <yofel> twoten: did you install all updates for your system?
[18:56] <cokoprens> yes
[18:56] <cokoprens> its up to date
[18:57] <twoten> oh no, actually I had to install 9.04 on my dual xeon scsi box, then upgrade to 9.10 because just installing 9.10 from live cd gave me a grub that kept loading itself in an infinite loop
[18:57] <twoten> so there are some updates to be done
[18:57] <cokoprens> i cant see general sound control
[18:57] <MarkusK_> repeating my above question: how can I disable/uninstall Akonadi (and esp. its migration tool)?
[18:59] <yofel> twoten: the broken  activate button was/is a known issue, try to install all updates and if it still doesn't  work try to install the package by hand in kpackagekit
[18:59] <yofel> twoten: the package is called 'nvidia-glx-185' (if you want to install the 185 version)
[19:00] <twoten> well I got to a root prompt with no xorg running and did an apt-get install nVidia driver, then I ran nvidia-xconfig which wrote an unusable xorg.conf for me which I had to trash
[19:01] <twoten> glx-185 is what I installed
[19:02] <yofel> twoten: what card model do you have?
[19:02] <twoten> quadro 4
[19:03] <yofel> twoten: hm, don't know any more then, you could try asking in #nvidia, maybe they can help
[19:03] <enrisa> Hi, I'm new in KUb, just update to KKoala. Sound is working OK when playing music file or videos, but no playing sound in firefox and not recognize micro. Seems problem with audio card (VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC]). Any idea?
[19:03] <thrz> anyone got a working net connection with a huawei modem or any other wireless broadband device? neither network manager works nor kppp
[19:03] <twoten> gotcha! thanks for the help!
[19:04] <pucko-> thrz, works fine here with huawei e220. what's your problem?
[19:05] <thrz> I cant connect with network manager and kpp doesnt see the modem I have an e220 too
[19:06] <karl_> I have a big problem that I would like to pass on to someone involved with testing and development of releases.
[19:06] <pucko-> thrz: first things first. so the device is recognized at least?
[19:06] <karl_> Is there anyone here that can help me.
[19:06] <yofel> !anyone | karl_
[19:07] <thrz> well I think so, I can create a wireless broadband connection succesfully and I have all the usb devices, but I cant find a way to connect with network manager
[19:08] <karl_> I need to pass along some concerns and problems with bug # 453567 Mine AGP Club 3D 7600GS video card did have D-sub (VGA)
[19:10] <cube_> kalispera paidia
[19:10] <yofel> karl_: tracking issues with ubuntu is done with bugs on launchpad
[19:10] <pucko-> thrz, ok. so what exactly goes wrong?
[19:10] <varghese> are there any other chat rooms here >
[19:10] <varghese> ?
[19:11] <thrz> I cant make the network manager entry connect, when you click on it nothing happens
[19:11] <pucko-> oh
[19:11] <yofel> karl_: you could ask in #ubuntu-bugs if you have problems reporting bugs
[19:11] <karl_> I know it is but this is a bug that made it through to Karmic final.  I just want to know if there is someone on this list that can pass my concerns on upstream?
[19:11] <varghese> has anybody tried the new gnome-shell ?
[19:11] <MarkusK_> Re my question on how to disable Akonadi: I have followed the suggestions on http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi but I see no improvement.
[19:11] <karl_> The provlem has been fix.
[19:11] <thrz> you got it to work with plain knetwork manager straight?
[19:12] <pucko-> thrz, yes in karmic. but it didn't work well with knetworkmanager in jaunty
[19:13] <pucko-> thrz, what modell is it?
[19:13] <thrz> huawei e220 :)
[19:14] <pucko-> thrz, have you tried using wvdial or something, just to verify your settings and such?
[19:14] <thrz> do you do something special with the nm entry configuration? I cant make the connection for all users or auto start, not sure if that matters
[19:14] <thrz> I tried with kppp and it doesnt detect the modem, also I'm not sure how to make kppp enter the network's apn
[19:15] <karl_> Anyone that can pass concerns about boot in Karmic final upsteam?
[19:15] <MarkusK_> Are there special packages I need to install for enabling the quick help (SHIFT+F1)? It seems to be missing in most places (especially in many new config windows that I do not understand)
[19:15] <pucko-> thrz: it is added as /dev/ttyUSB0 as default
[19:16] <enrisa> Hi, I'm new in KUb, just update to KKoala. Sound is working OK when playing music file or videos, but no playing sound in firefox and not recognize micro. Seems problem with audio card (VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC]). Any idea?
[19:16] <thrz> ah I tried with /dev/modem only I think, shouldnt be linked or something...
[19:17] <pucko-> thrz, you can link it with an udev-rule but that is complicated.
[19:17] <pucko-> anyway, last time I tried kppp I had to set a special at command for the APN
[19:18] <thrz> I think I only tried with /dev/modem, so if its not linked by default it no surprise it didnt work
[19:18] <pucko-> thrz, no surprise there.
[19:19] <thrz> so I'd have to enter the apn with an at command?
[19:19] <pucko-> and you set the apn by sending it AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","<your apn>"
[19:19] <pucko-> thrz, there's a tab somewhere in kppp that lets you edit command strings
[19:20] <thrz> yes I saw that thanks
[19:20] <pucko-> actually, you will have to set more at commands if you are using pin and such..
[19:20] <pucko-> it is easier to try those out with wvdial
[19:20] <varghese> does anyone want to chat in private
[19:20] <thrz> I never tried with wvdial
[19:21] <varghese> does anyone want to chat in private
[19:21] <varghese> does anyone want to chat in private
[19:21] <varghese> does anyone want to chat in private
[19:21] <FloodBotK2> varghese: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <thrz> I'm surprised it works for you with nm, did you have to do something special?
[19:21] <pucko-> thrz, no, not that I can remember.
[19:23] <pucko-> thrz, I can send you my wvdial.conf for you to try out. hopefully any configuration errors will show up there...
[19:25] <thrz> thanks I'll try with kppp first
[19:25] <pucko-> ok
[19:25] <thrz> its a freshly installed karmic, maybe that has an effect, did you install any updates on yours or it worked ootb?
[19:26] <GWild> for some reason, my kubuntu installation just started using Gnome as the desktop
[19:26] <GWild> how can I set KDE back to the default?
[19:27] <Darakiss> MarkusK_: so in the end, the drives were already mounted rw so we used "sudo -i" and root access enabled us to delete files in his /home partition. Thx again
[19:28] <MarkusK_> Darakiss: okay, good
[19:28] <Darakiss> Bye all
[19:42] <waif> hi all!
[19:42] <waif> !
[19:42] <Zercha> Are anyone familiar with sound problems that could help me? I don't get any sound from programs at all, the sound isn't muted or something like that since I can hear the startup sound when booting
[19:42] <naftilos76> hi guys, what are your 'findings'? Is Kubuntu 9.10 good as a workstation? Is KDE good enough?
[19:43] <Zercha> tried to reboot but it didn't work :/
[19:43] <ajd2k9> hey i have a problem using my 9800gt my screen goes like this .. http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/593/snapshot1g.png anyone able to point me in the right direction .. iv got the latest driver
[19:46] <ajd2k9>  hey i have a problem using my 9800gt my screen goes like this .. http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/593/snapshot1g.png anyone able to point me in the right direction .. iv got the latest driver
[19:56] <ajd2k9> hey i have a problem using my 9800gt my screen goes like this .. http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/593/snapshot1g.png anyone able to point me in the right direction .. iv got the latest driver
[19:59] <yofel> ajd2k9: and the issue is? too large fonts? checked the font size settings in system settings->Appearance->Fonts?
[19:59] <ajd2k9> there at poin5
[20:00] <yofel> hm... maybe the dpi setting is broken
[20:01] <ajd2k9> ive got it at lowest .. this is really starting to suck ..
[20:01] <yofel> hm, no expert on this, maybe ask in #kde or #nvidia ?
[20:02] <ajd2k9> il do that thanks .. im gunna try this driver but if not i will ... cheers
[20:03] <neomantra> ajd2k9: did you install KDE on top of a system you had gnome on previously?
[20:03] <ajd2k9> nope fresh install about 45  minutes ago
[20:06] <neomantra> ajd2k9:  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107128.0 - that help?
[20:10] <ajd2k9> neomantra: confuses me more lol .. iv only used linux once for two weeks before this ...
[20:12] <neomantra> ajd2k9: hit the KMenu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[20:12] <neomantra> then look at the bottom setting and it should say "Force Fonts" = disabled, can you confirm?
[20:12] <neomantra> er "Force Fonts DPI"
[20:12] <ajd2k9> yeah
[20:13] <neomantra> change that from "disabled" to "96 dpi"
[20:13] <neomantra> and hit apply and let me know if it helps
[20:13] <ajd2k9> i have and have applied this .. do i need to restart
[20:13] <antipopxx> Is WPA2 enterprise still broken in Kubuntu? I can't connect to my uni WPA2/PEAP network, how should I go about fixing this?
[20:14] <neomantra> the forum post doesn't seem to indicate you should have to restart.  maybe that's not your issue then, sorry :(
[20:14] <neomantra> i suppose you could try restarting just to see since it wouldn't hurt anything. but i'm not hopeful it will help
[20:15] <ajd2k9> neo .. does ubuntu use GNOME
[20:15] <ajd2k9> actually forget the silly question lol
[20:16] <neomantra> :)
[20:17] <neomantra> good luck, i've got to run
[20:18] <antipopxx> I can't really post a dmesg or anything, since I'm using IRC on another computer, but dmesg gives two different errors: "deauthenticated (reason: 23)" and "disassociating by local choice (reason=3)"
[20:26] <soulsurfer> has anyone else had the problem with kubuntu 9.10 where if they have something like flash in firefox playing sound and then when amarok gets opened, sound for flash stops?
[20:28] <moa__> Sounds like a PulseAudio problem. By the way, how's Kubuntu working out for you? I'm trying OpenSUSE but it's just not a good fit.
[20:33] <soulsurfer> i like kubuntu except for this sound issue
[20:33] <soulsurfer> i was using kanotix before i started using kubuntu which i liked
[20:33] <soulsurfer> but kubuntu has such good support
[20:35] <mime> hi, can anyone know wich is better alsa or pulse (im use ubuntu 9.04)
[20:35] <mime> tnak you
[20:35] <salvatore_> ciao
[20:35] <moa__> In my opinion, ALSA. Pulse gets buggy too often for my taste.
[20:35] <soulsurfer> in the past i've had alsa and it worked flawlessly
[20:35] <salvatore_> !list
[20:36] <soulsurfer> moa_ do you know how i can revert back to alsa?
[20:36] <mime> what is flawlessly?
[20:36] <soulsurfer> meaning, i was able to play multiple sounds at the same time and i never had any problemss
[20:37] <mime> but anyone has noticed at sound quality level if alsa is better?
[20:37] <mime> ok
[20:37] <soulsurfer> but kubuntu 9.10 comes with pulse as the default, and not all apps go through pulse so i'm getting issues where sound stops working because if something accesses the sound besides pulse, pulse just shuts down
[20:38] <moa__> soulsurfer: Afraid not. I've not used Linux regularly for a while, I'm actually just hunting for a new distro now.
[20:38] <mime> yes, i have jaunty jakalope with kde 3.5, and changed mrs...y audio drive
[20:39] <mime> is a shit
[20:39] <mime> bye and thnx
[20:39] <soulsurfer> yeah
[20:40] <soulsurfer> ssure
[20:40] <soulsurfer> moa__ do you happen to know how i can convert all apps to use pulse?
[20:41] <antipopxx> Nobody has any info on those error codes?
[20:41] <antipopxx> "deauthenticated (reason: 23)" and "disassociating by local choice (reason=3)"
[20:41] <soulsurfer> for what?
[20:42] <antipopxx> knetworkmanager and/or wpa-supplicant
[20:42] <antipopxx> I'm trying to connect to a university WPA2/PEAP network
[20:47] <antipopxx> nope? Okay.
[20:48] <soulsurfer> sorry. did you say something?
[20:50] <antipopxx>  I'm trying to connect to a university WPA2/PEAP network, and I'm getting dmesg errors to the effect of "deauthenticated (reason: 23)" and "disassociating by local choice (reason=3)". Bottom line is that I can't get it to connect, it just keeps popping the password/settings prompt.
[20:52] <soulsurfer> hmm
[20:52] <soulsurfer> did you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1123627
[20:57] <antipopxx> soulsurfer: Yeah. Not much help.
[20:58] <soulsurfer> ok, then not sure. sorry
[21:00] <Myleene> Hi, I need some help with my soundcard. I have no sound at all.
[21:04] <Myleene> Anybody there?
[21:21] <evgeny> fd
[21:21] <evgeny> добрый вечер
[21:22] <evgeny> есть кто тут
[21:26] <soulsurfer> hi Myleene
[21:28] <bretzel> Where is pkg: doxygen-gui ??
[21:29] <mime> heloo, is anyone know how to set the built in speakers on when suitching headphones? thanx
[21:31] <evgeny-soft> здесь есть кто нить
[21:32] <evgeny-soft> speak Russian???
[21:32] <yofel> !ru
[21:33] <bretzel_> No one knows what happened to the paaacckage "doxygen-gui" ?
[21:34] <yofel> bretzel_: it seems like the gui was dropped in 1.6.0-1, see 'aptitude changelog doxygen'
[21:34] <mime> heloo, is anyone know how to set the built in speakers on when suitching headphones? thanx
[21:34] <yofel> bretzel_: "currently fails to build"
[21:35] <bretzel_> yofel: I do not understand - this tool (was) so useful !
[21:35] <yofel> bretzel_: it means that in the current version the gui doesn't work, more like the gui package can't be created
[21:36] <bretzel_> So then which tool can I find and use for doxygen ( please not the cmdline with the args nightmare ..."
[21:36] <yofel> bretzel_: well... I don't know doxygen, you could try to get the jaunty version from packages.ubuntu.com (just be careful not to update to the karmic version then)
[21:39] <kaddi> !seen ign0ramus
[21:39] <kaddi> :(
[21:40] <bretzel_> yofel: thanks for the hint, I was unaware of build issues... sad, maintainer dismissed ...(?)
[21:40] <mime> hello, anyone knows wich are the native sound drivers in kubuntu 9.04?
[21:55] <mojosan> im down to that forcedeth is my biggest problem in a long long time
[22:03] <surgy> hello
[22:03] <surgy> open office word wont let me copy (cntrl+c) and then paste(cntrl+v) into konqeurer
[22:04] <surgy> can anyone help me?
[22:05] <surgy> it shows up in clipper just not in konq
[22:09] <nomopofomo> does one of the latest updates break pgp in ubuntu?
[22:12] <danaru> bonsoir
[22:35] <dhillon-v10> hi all, I am using kontact and I just imported my feeds list, there are about 400 unread feeds ans can anyone please tell me how akregator stores these feeds, because it should be taking more space but I only see in .kde/apps there is 326 kb
[23:16] <ryan-c> How safe is the 8.04 to 9.10 upgrade?
[23:16] <ryan-c> Will it hose me?
[23:17] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, you will be fine, you can always try out the live cd and see how it goes
[23:18] <ryan-c> dhillon-v10: The live cd does not give me any idea of whether or not upgrading my existing system will have problems.
[23:18] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, the basic problems could be drivers not working IMHO so you can test that out, other than that you will just get more features
[23:19] <yofel> ryan-c: and you should make sure that you really want to use kde4, hardy still kde3 right?
[23:19] <yofel> *uses
[23:19] <ryan-c> I would like kde4, yes.
[23:19] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, there you go :)
[23:19] <ryan-c> I'm trying to decide between a clean install or an upgrade.
[23:20] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, I recommend clean install and many linux experts will say that too
[23:20] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, although I am not an export :)
[23:20] <ryan-c> I experienced breakage when I tried 9.04.
[23:21] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, live cs's don't always work, the Kubuntu 9.10 live cd looks crapy but it works like a charm
[23:22] <ryan-c> I'm concerned about it fouling up my disk setup.  I have encrypted root and swap on LVM on RAID1.
[23:23] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, oh, I didn't know that, sorry I can't help you out there, I know that 9.10 offers encryption in the live cd
[23:26] <ryan-c> actually, I wanted the 64bit.... I should do a clean install probably.
[23:26] <ryan-c> after backing up my disks
[23:28] <dhillon-v10> ryan-c, if that fits your needs :)
[23:49] <craig_> has anyone used ultamatix ?
[23:50] <Pici> !ultamatix | craig_
[23:50] <craig_> trying to install google earth and the script wants me to select ok and i can't seem to select ok to configure the package
[23:52] <craig_> so thisa has stuck my ability to install software becasue google earth is not fulled configured because i can't seem to ok the licence agreement
[23:54] <craig_> anyone know how to fix this?