/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/11/15/#ubuntu-ops.txt

ardchoilleI feel that someone should keep an eye on feyner in $ubuntu, scroll back and see01:02
Priceymneptok: take it to pm01:08
mneptokPricey: please do not deop me without notification.01:08
Priceymneptok: There's no need to flex your ops.01:09
Priceyif you need to use +o, use it01:09
mneptokPricey: there is when a user is asking to play with a troll, and responds with "you stop" when asked to stop.01:09
Priceymneptok: If you think a quiet, ban, kick or remove needs to be done, go +o and do it.01:10
Priceymneptok: Going +o to win an argument sucks.01:10
mneptokPricey: if you have a problem with how i use my +o, take it to the Council. do NOT feel that you have the authority to manipulate services to interfere01:10
Priceymneptok: I'm using the access in services that I have? I'm not 'cheating' in any way.01:11
PriceyI was simply trying to defuse hte situation.01:11
mneptokPricey: your opinion. that opinion does not give you the right to de-op others without notice.01:11
PriceyYou were provoking him.01:11
mneptoki was letting him know that the request to stop came from an op.01:11
PriceyYou don' need to go +o to do that.01:11
PriceyAnd it shouldn't matter that you are an op01:12
Priceyif what someone is doing is disrupting the channel, it doesn't matter01:12
mneptokit shouldn't, but often does.01:12
Priceythat was ridiculous english, i shouldn't rewrite half way through01:12
mneptokin any event, do not use services to deop me without notification again, please.01:13
naliothi agree.  if you need the +o, then you should use it for $useraction - not displays01:13
PriceyI will use my access if I believe it necessary to prevent disruption in the channel mneptok.01:13
mneptokthen i shall feel free to do the same.01:15
PriceyThat's why you've got the access :-)01:15
FlannelGuys, there's no need to threaten each other over this.  We don't need opwars in our channels.01:15
mneptokthen i would suggest ops have the courtesy to PM before using services to remove access from other ops.01:16
mneptokotherwise, wars are inevitable.01:16
FlannelI do agree, with both of you, actually.  It's not a good idea to go around opping yourself just to win arguments (an explanation of why stopping would've been better than +o with additional provocative comments), but at the same time, simply having a discussion to that extent would've been better than deopping them because you disagree with that course of action.01:18
elkynote #freenode, expect the same for #ubuntu01:38
naliothyou can expect it, but it doubt you'll see any of it (that's a particular user with a hatred for freenode itself)01:41
elkyi noted the particular contempt for christel01:47
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Bluetoothmousecould anyone please explain to me why I was redirected here?03:31
Bluetoothmousehello03:33
Bluetoothmousehello?03:33
bazhangBluetoothmouse, hang on for a moment03:34
Bluetoothmouseok03:35
bazhangBluetoothmouse, you were banned under another name and forwarded here03:39
Bluetoothmousewhat?03:39
bazhangBluetoothmouse, what channel are you trying to access03:40
Bluetoothmouse#ubuntu03:40
bazhangBluetoothmouse, you were there before as mesula , correct?03:41
Bluetoothmousenope03:41
bazhangikonia, you about?03:43
bazhangBluetoothmouse, the operator who banned is not around right now, I would suggest you return in a few hours time to discuss with him03:47
Bluetoothmousei use a service that gives that IP. I share it with others.03:48
Bluetoothmouseim not the one who was banned03:48
Bluetoothmousewhy should i discuss it with him03:48
bazhangwell someone from that exact address was.03:48
Bluetoothmousewhat am i supposed to do about it?03:49
BluetoothmouseI'm assuming that unfortunately, they receive too many serious complaints to spend any time on IRC bans.03:51
BluetoothmouseI wish I could do something but there is nothing I can do.03:51
elkyif you mean that you are using a proxy, then you should seek some other form of anonymity.03:51
=== vorian is now known as heHATEme
Bluetoothmousebazhang: who was the operator?03:53
bazhangBluetoothmouse, ikonia03:53
=== Dominian is now known as BOFH
=== heHATEme is now known as vorian
=== BOFH is now known as Dominian
ubotturyaxnb called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()03:57
elkyforwarding guest98..... here for eval04:14
bazhangBluetoothmouse, you will need to come back a bit later to discuss with ikonia04:15
bazhangBluetoothmouse, say in three or four hours04:15
Bluetoothmouseso?04:16
bazhangBluetoothmouse, so please return in around 3-4 hours to discuss with ikonia your ban in #ubuntu04:21
Bluetoothmouseleave?04:21
bazhangBluetoothmouse, thanks yes04:21
bazhangtwo nicks at least from that address, bans in #ubuntu and -ot04:22
bazhangxcsdfghj  in -ot and mesula in #ubuntu04:22
ubottujschall called the ops in #kubuntu ()04:56
DominianStonecold causing issues here as well?04:57
bazhangin #kubuntu04:57
Dominianthanks04:57
StoneColdubuntu sucks04:57
StoneColdnow K-Line me04:57
ubottujschall called the ops in #ubuntu ()04:58
ubottuemma called the ops in #kubuntu ()04:58
ubottuStoneCold called the ops in #xubuntu ()04:58
ubottuStoneCold called the ops in #kubuntu ()04:59
elky...04:59
StoneCold....05:00
elkytomaw, i believe this person has a request for you.05:00
StoneColdyes05:00
StoneColdK-Line Me05:00
StoneCold!staff05:00
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)05:00
StoneCold!staff05:01
naliothStoneCold: can we help you?05:02
StoneColdyes05:02
StoneColdK-line me05:02
naliothfor?05:02
StoneColdswearing05:03
ubottubizkit called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()05:03
bazhangArtemis_Fowl, how may we help you05:15
Artemis_FowlJust checkin things out, lol.05:15
Artemis_FowlNew ot freenode ;x05:15
Artemis_Fowlto-05:15
naliothArtemis_Fowl: the topic in most channels is quite explanatory, and can answer many questions.  type /topic <press enter key> to read it05:18
Artemis_FowlI went to join #ubuntu and it forwarded me.05:19
naliothikonia: you about?05:20
bazhangthis is bluetoothmouse Artemis_Fowl ??05:21
=== Artemis_Fowl is now known as Simplicity`
bazhangSimplicity`, you were asked to come back in 3 or 4 hours time (since last you joined as Bluetoothmouse)05:25
bazhangSimplicity`, so please return in 4 hours time to speak with the operator who banned you from #ubuntu05:28
mneptokSimplicity`: the IP address you are connected from is banned in #ubuntu, and will not be unbanned.05:35
mneptokSimplicity`: either connect using your own host, or, sadly, live with the consequences of sharing an IP address with known abusers.05:35
mneptokSimplicity`: a similar discussion was held with another user of the proxy/gateway you use, and it was decided then that the IP address in question would not be unbanned.05:36
bazhanginteresting05:41
Tm_Tjussi01: what should we think of nick v1ttu?05:51
macoTm_T: just think "oy!"05:54
Tm_Tyou know what that word means?05:55
macoshould i have gone with "oi!"?05:56
bazhangwhoa its bad05:57
Tm_Tas cursing word, it's finnish equiv for "fuck" but the word itself mrans female genitalia05:58
Tm_Tmeans05:58
Tm_TI asked him to change nick in pm05:59
macowait the 2 letters i said mean that?06:07
macothey mean like "oh my!" over here06:07
bazhangno the word vittu06:07
macoah ok06:07
macoi was "oy"ing at the bit where v1ttu seems to walk the troll line very very closely06:08
bazhangpast it imo06:08
mneptokthat explains why i never met anyone named Vito in Helsinki06:09
bazhangmaco, sorry to be out of the loop, and congrats; not sure what the congrats are for though06:10
macobazhang: i became a motu yesterday06:11
mneptokbazhang: my ovipositor is distending, and maco volunteered to hunt down and euthanize my young.06:12
macooh wait...almost 2 days ago now :P 47 hours ago06:12
bazhangmaco, ah that was my guess. congrats :)06:12
macothanks06:12
bazhangmneptok, thanks for that info :/06:12
* maco blinks06:12
macoi cant parse that into whovian06:12
mneptokalthough how you can kill something with such a cute beak and tentacles is beyind me.06:12
macomneptok: wait, youre the father of the Horror of Fang Rock06:13
maco?06:13
bazhanghehe06:14
mneptokmaco: let's not discuss it. as it is, i'm not paying child support.06:22
* Tm_T really doesn't like that nick filling his screen06:35
macoshould i tell him off in #kubuntu?06:35
Tm_TI don't know ):06:36
Tm_Tanyway, I'm busy here home, daughters birthday ->06:37
macook06:37
mneptokTm_T: Hyvää syntymäpäivää!06:42
naliothmaco: it's not professional to "tell someone off"06:43
mneptok(well, to her)06:43
mneptoknalioth: you coming to UDS?06:43
naliothmneptok: nope06:44
gordi'm at UDS!06:44
nalioththey made a big mistake picking Dallas instead of Houston06:44
mneptoknalioth: this time of year, perhaps. summer? no way.06:45
naliothany time of year06:45
gordits been warm and sunny all week here in dallas06:45
mneptokgord: see you tomorrow evening.06:45
naliothdallas has nothing whatsoever to do06:45
gordthis is true06:45
gordand to get anywhere you have to rent a car06:46
mneptoknalioth: high school football. big hair ...06:46
mneptokFiring Range Night should be fun.06:47
naliothbe more fun in Houston06:47
gorduds isn't about fun ;)06:47
naliothgord: no, but 'Firing Range Night" is . .06:48
mneptokgord: does that mean you're taking yourself off the list?06:48
gordof course not :) shooting stuff night will be fun06:49
gordjust that i have been here a week already and i'm exhausted, uds itself won't be much fun ;)06:49
* mneptok hopes the AR-15s are Stag manufactured06:49
mneptokgot my eye on one. want to try one out.06:49
naliothyou can rent full autos in Houston06:50
nalioththe only reason Dallas got UDS is that their chamber of commerce has a larger budget for strippers06:50
mneptoknalioth: range rules say "our ammo only." that translates to "mortgage your house to go full auto."06:50
elkynalioth, uh... are you forgetting that this is a logged channel?06:55
naliothelky: nope.06:56
=== stonecold is now known as Dragonzord
DragonzordITs offical!06:56
DragonzordLinux sucks06:56
elkylame troll is lame.06:57
ubottuDragonzord called the ops in #ubuntu ()07:02
macomneptok: hey im getting to dfw about 20 minutes before you08:10
macomneptok: cab?08:10
mneptokmaco: see PM08:21
* mneptok toddles off to bed08:27
ikonianalioth:  hello, I'm around now, sorry I was away last night10:17
ikoniainteresting, just came back to another private message from "buck" flooding me with the output of "ls -lR /" on his machine10:24
ikoniaseems you all had an interesting night10:24
bazhangheh. to say the least11:23
tsimpsonI just got some spam from webturtle0a in #u14:02
tsimpsonlooks like a bot with /cycle protection14:03
bazhangyep14:04
bazhangwebturtle0 is there as well14:04
Seeker`I think I just banned the wrong one14:05
bazhangheh14:05
bazhangI was just going to PM webturtle014:05
Seeker`feel free to14:05
bazhangthe botmaster got kicked and the bot disconnected Seeker`14:05
tsimpson#ubuntu i=jorry 190.193.64.43 irc.freenode.net [SkG]a H :0 George14:06
tsimpsonsame ident, same IP14:06
tsimpsonthey quit anyway14:07
tsimpsonnow sinsuna14:08
bazhanguser complained about sinsuna in #ubuntu ; I have in PM but no response after removal14:12
Garyklined14:12
bazhang sinsuna has quit (K-lined)14:12
bazhangwhoops14:12
bazhangthanks Gary :)14:12
GaryI'm pretty sure webturtle0 is the bot runner, eh?14:20
bazhangseems like Gary14:20
aaron11Hello15:36
bazhanghi aaron1115:36
jribhello aaron1115:36
jribaaron11: how can we help?15:36
aaron11can you edit !linux to Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux15:37
jrib!linux15:37
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux15:37
aaron11You see it says as kernel15:37
aaron11So did you change it15:38
jrib!linux =~ s/as kernel/as a kernel/15:39
ubottuI'll remember that jrib15:39
jrib!linux15:39
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux15:39
aaron11Thanks15:39
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (petite #ubuntu)16:07
ubottuIn #kubuntu, xerei said: !foo is fo16:38
ubottuIn #kubuntu, xerei said: !foo is foo16:38
ubottuIn #kubuntu, xerei said: !fo is also bar16:39
ubottuIn #kubuntu, xerei said: !foo is also bar16:39
naliothubottu: tell xerei about botabuse16:39
ubottuIn ubottu, xerei said: !foo is foo16:40
ubottuIn ubottu, xerei said: !foo is also bar16:40
ubottuIn ubottu, xerei said: foo is also bar16:41
ubottuIn ubottu, xerei said: foo is foo16:41
* MenZa boggles.16:41
gordyeah, foo isn't bar16:43
MenZaindeed.16:45
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, Cobalt said: ubottu: That really is helpful, bot. Just for the record.18:47
ikoniablack_man has been a problem in other channels today, I'm going to give him a chance, but not too much20:34
KB1JWQHeh, not sure I'd bother, ikonia20:36
ikoniagone - be aware of #defocus and #freenode20:37
KB1JWQOh, we're well aware.20:37
KB1JWQHe's silenced in both.20:38
ikoniaoooh, fair enough, didn't see that20:38
ikoniaahhh yes, -v sorry20:38
AmaranthTime to open #ubuntu+1 again20:41
ikoniait's getting that way20:42
AmaranthUDS starts tomorrow20:42
ubottullutz called the ops in #ubuntu (Telesforo)20:54
ikoniahey ardchoille22:30
ardchoilleI was told to join this chanel by ikonia22:30
ikoniayou sure where22:30
ikoniado you want to post a link to the pages having a problem ?22:30
ardchoilleI am seeing a problem with family unfriendly content being displayed on the ubuntu docs site22:30
ardchoilleikonia: I have a screenshot, want to see it?22:30
ikoniawhat's the link22:31
ardchoillehttp://picasaweb.google.com/ardchoille42/Screenshots#540445989642154989022:31
ikoniaardchoille: what's the real link though22:31
ardchoilleoh, ok, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation and type in maximus into the search box. Then look at the ads on the right of the page22:32
ardchoillemaximus is an app in the repos that forces all windows to be maximised22:32
ardchoillebut the ads say much different22:32
MenZaEasily re-producable. Should have a bug reported and assign the wiki/web team on that. I agree, that's highly inappropriate.22:33
FlannelI don't see any ads...22:33
ardchoillethank you MenZa22:33
MenZaFlannel: Stop using AdBlock.22:33
ikoniathat's why I'm testing now22:33
FlannelMenZa: I disabled it!22:33
FlannelI even enabled javascript22:33
MenZaI have the ads.22:33
FlannelMenZa: Are you logged in by any chance?22:33
ikonialooks like that page is having a problem in general, I don't get it loading at all22:33
ardchoilleI'm not logged in22:33
MenZaFlannel: I'm not sure.22:33
FlannelMenZa: Do you see your name in the top right?22:34
MenZaIt works for me. I'll happily report a bug.22:34
MenZaNo, Flannel.22:34
FlannelMenZa: You're not22:34
MenZaNot that that matters.22:34
ikoniascreen shot paints a bad picture22:34
FlannelAds must only appear if you're not logged in22:34
FlannelOh right, because that horrible fixed-width site only happens if you're not logged in.22:34
ikoniaif those ads are genuine which they seem to be it's not good22:34
ardchoilleikonia: in the screenshot, just above and to the right of the pic, click the magnifying glass to get a larger view22:35
* Flannel isn't sure he likes the idea of ads on help.ubuntu.com/community/ anyway22:35
MenZaI'll crack open a bug on Launchpad immediately.22:35
MenZaThank you, ardchoille22:35
ikoniaardchoille: yes, I see them22:35
ardchoilleFlannel: I totally agree with that22:35
ikoniaFlannel: agreed22:35
ardchoilleyou're welcome22:35
FlannelMenZa: the not-logged-in bit is important to mention22:35
ardchoilleSo, can you good folks handle this? If so, I'll leave and leave it to you all.22:35
ardchoilleOr I can help in some way, it's up to you22:36
MenZaFlannel: Certainly.22:36
MenZaardchoille: I'll report it on Launchpad right now. Should have enough information - cheers.22:36
ardchoilleMenZa: Thank you very much :)22:37
MenZaardchoille: If you'd like, I can send you a link to the bug so you can subscribe to it and see the outcome.22:37
ardchoilleMenZa: yes, please22:37
MenZaShall do :)22:37
FlannelIf you're not logged in, it appears that it uses google custom search.22:38
FlannelI wonder why when you're logged in it doesn't.22:38
ardchoilleGood thing I was looking for documentation on Maximus :)22:39
ardchoilleI'm going to delete the screenshot since that album is public22:40
MenZaardchoille: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/48330222:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 483302 in ubuntu-website "Searching the Wiki while not logged in can lead to inappropriate ads" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:41
MenZaI have used your screenshot for the bug report.22:41
MenZaNow, I'm going to run off to bed.22:41
MenZaAgain, thank you ardchoille22:42
ardchoilleyw22:42
ardchoilleCan I delete the screenshot without affecting that bug report?22:42
jribardchoille: yes22:58
ardchoilleThank you folks :)22:58

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