[01:02] <ardchoille> I feel that someone should keep an eye on feyner in $ubuntu, scroll back and see
[01:08] <Pricey> mneptok: take it to pm
[01:08] <mneptok> Pricey: please do not deop me without notification.
[01:09] <Pricey> mneptok: There's no need to flex your ops.
[01:09] <Pricey> if you need to use +o, use it
[01:09] <mneptok> Pricey: there is when a user is asking to play with a troll, and responds with "you stop" when asked to stop.
[01:10] <Pricey> mneptok: If you think a quiet, ban, kick or remove needs to be done, go +o and do it.
[01:10] <Pricey> mneptok: Going +o to win an argument sucks.
[01:10] <mneptok> Pricey: if you have a problem with how i use my +o, take it to the Council. do NOT feel that you have the authority to manipulate services to interfere
[01:11] <Pricey> mneptok: I'm using the access in services that I have? I'm not 'cheating' in any way.
[01:11] <Pricey> I was simply trying to defuse hte situation.
[01:11] <mneptok> Pricey: your opinion. that opinion does not give you the right to de-op others without notice.
[01:11] <Pricey> You were provoking him.
[01:11] <mneptok> i was letting him know that the request to stop came from an op.
[01:11] <Pricey> You don' need to go +o to do that.
[01:12] <Pricey> And it shouldn't matter that you are an op
[01:12] <Pricey> if what someone is doing is disrupting the channel, it doesn't matter
[01:12] <mneptok> it shouldn't, but often does.
[01:12] <Pricey> that was ridiculous english, i shouldn't rewrite half way through
[01:13] <mneptok> in any event, do not use services to deop me without notification again, please.
[01:13] <nalioth> i agree.  if you need the +o, then you should use it for $useraction - not displays
[01:13] <Pricey> I will use my access if I believe it necessary to prevent disruption in the channel mneptok.
[01:15] <mneptok> then i shall feel free to do the same.
[01:15] <Pricey> That's why you've got the access :-)
[01:15] <Flannel> Guys, there's no need to threaten each other over this.  We don't need opwars in our channels.
[01:16] <mneptok> then i would suggest ops have the courtesy to PM before using services to remove access from other ops.
[01:16] <mneptok> otherwise, wars are inevitable.
[01:18] <Flannel> I do agree, with both of you, actually.  It's not a good idea to go around opping yourself just to win arguments (an explanation of why stopping would've been better than +o with additional provocative comments), but at the same time, simply having a discussion to that extent would've been better than deopping them because you disagree with that course of action.
[01:38] <elky> note #freenode, expect the same for #ubuntu
[01:41] <nalioth> you can expect it, but it doubt you'll see any of it (that's a particular user with a hatred for freenode itself)
[01:47] <elky> i noted the particular contempt for christel
[03:31] <Bluetoothmouse> could anyone please explain to me why I was redirected here?
[03:33] <Bluetoothmouse> hello
[03:33] <Bluetoothmouse> hello?
[03:34] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, hang on for a moment
[03:35] <Bluetoothmouse> ok
[03:39] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, you were banned under another name and forwarded here
[03:39] <Bluetoothmouse> what?
[03:40] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, what channel are you trying to access
[03:40] <Bluetoothmouse> #ubuntu
[03:41] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, you were there before as mesula , correct?
[03:41] <Bluetoothmouse> nope
[03:43] <bazhang> ikonia, you about?
[03:47] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, the operator who banned is not around right now, I would suggest you return in a few hours time to discuss with him
[03:48] <Bluetoothmouse> i use a service that gives that IP. I share it with others.
[03:48] <Bluetoothmouse> im not the one who was banned
[03:48] <Bluetoothmouse> why should i discuss it with him
[03:48] <bazhang> well someone from that exact address was.
[03:49] <Bluetoothmouse> what am i supposed to do about it?
[03:51] <Bluetoothmouse> I'm assuming that unfortunately, they receive too many serious complaints to spend any time on IRC bans.
[03:51] <Bluetoothmouse> I wish I could do something but there is nothing I can do.
[03:51] <elky> if you mean that you are using a proxy, then you should seek some other form of anonymity.
[03:53] <Bluetoothmouse> bazhang: who was the operator?
[03:53] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, ikonia
[04:14] <elky> forwarding guest98..... here for eval
[04:15] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, you will need to come back a bit later to discuss with ikonia
[04:15] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, say in three or four hours
[04:16] <Bluetoothmouse> so?
[04:21] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, so please return in around 3-4 hours to discuss with ikonia your ban in #ubuntu
[04:21] <Bluetoothmouse> leave?
[04:21] <bazhang> Bluetoothmouse, thanks yes
[04:22] <bazhang> two nicks at least from that address, bans in #ubuntu and -ot
[04:22] <bazhang> 	xcsdfghj  in -ot and mesula in #ubuntu
[04:57] <Dominian> Stonecold causing issues here as well?
[04:57] <bazhang> in #kubuntu
[04:57] <Dominian> thanks
[04:57] <StoneCold> ubuntu sucks
[04:57] <StoneCold> now K-Line me
[04:59] <elky> ...
[05:00] <StoneCold> ....
[05:00] <elky> tomaw, i believe this person has a request for you.
[05:00] <StoneCold> yes
[05:00] <StoneCold> K-Line Me
[05:00] <StoneCold> !staff
[05:01] <StoneCold> !staff
[05:02] <nalioth> StoneCold: can we help you?
[05:02] <StoneCold> yes
[05:02] <StoneCold> K-line me
[05:02] <nalioth> for?
[05:03] <StoneCold> swearing
[05:15] <bazhang> Artemis_Fowl, how may we help you
[05:15] <Artemis_Fowl> Just checkin things out, lol.
[05:15] <Artemis_Fowl> New ot freenode ;x
[05:15] <Artemis_Fowl> to-
[05:18] <nalioth> Artemis_Fowl: the topic in most channels is quite explanatory, and can answer many questions.  type /topic <press enter key> to read it
[05:19] <Artemis_Fowl> I went to join #ubuntu and it forwarded me.
[05:20] <nalioth> ikonia: you about?
[05:21] <bazhang> this is bluetoothmouse Artemis_Fowl ??
[05:25] <bazhang> Simplicity`, you were asked to come back in 3 or 4 hours time (since last you joined as Bluetoothmouse)
[05:28] <bazhang> Simplicity`, so please return in 4 hours time to speak with the operator who banned you from #ubuntu
[05:35] <mneptok> Simplicity`: the IP address you are connected from is banned in #ubuntu, and will not be unbanned.
[05:35] <mneptok> Simplicity`: either connect using your own host, or, sadly, live with the consequences of sharing an IP address with known abusers.
[05:36] <mneptok> Simplicity`: a similar discussion was held with another user of the proxy/gateway you use, and it was decided then that the IP address in question would not be unbanned.
[05:41] <bazhang> interesting
[05:51] <Tm_T> jussi01: what should we think of nick v1ttu?
[05:54] <maco> Tm_T: just think "oy!"
[05:55] <Tm_T> you know what that word means?
[05:56] <maco> should i have gone with "oi!"?
[05:57] <bazhang> whoa its bad
[05:58] <Tm_T> as cursing word, it's finnish equiv for "fuck" but the word itself mrans female genitalia
[05:58] <Tm_T> means
[05:59] <Tm_T> I asked him to change nick in pm
[06:07] <maco> wait the 2 letters i said mean that?
[06:07] <maco> they mean like "oh my!" over here
[06:07] <bazhang> no the word vittu
[06:07] <maco> ah ok
[06:08] <maco> i was "oy"ing at the bit where v1ttu seems to walk the troll line very very closely
[06:08] <bazhang> past it imo
[06:09] <mneptok> that explains why i never met anyone named Vito in Helsinki
[06:10] <bazhang> maco, sorry to be out of the loop, and congrats; not sure what the congrats are for though
[06:11] <maco> bazhang: i became a motu yesterday
[06:12] <mneptok> bazhang: my ovipositor is distending, and maco volunteered to hunt down and euthanize my young.
[06:12] <maco> oh wait...almost 2 days ago now :P 47 hours ago
[06:12] <bazhang> maco, ah that was my guess. congrats :)
[06:12] <maco> thanks
[06:12] <bazhang> mneptok, thanks for that info :/
[06:12]  * maco blinks
[06:12] <maco> i cant parse that into whovian
[06:12] <mneptok> although how you can kill something with such a cute beak and tentacles is beyind me.
[06:13] <maco> mneptok: wait, youre the father of the Horror of Fang Rock
[06:13] <maco> ?
[06:14] <bazhang> hehe
[06:22] <mneptok> maco: let's not discuss it. as it is, i'm not paying child support.
[06:35]  * Tm_T really doesn't like that nick filling his screen
[06:35] <maco> should i tell him off in #kubuntu?
[06:36] <Tm_T> I don't know ):
[06:37] <Tm_T> anyway, I'm busy here home, daughters birthday ->
[06:37] <maco> ok
[06:42] <mneptok> Tm_T: Hyvää syntymäpäivää!
[06:43] <nalioth> maco: it's not professional to "tell someone off"
[06:43] <mneptok> (well, to her)
[06:43] <mneptok> nalioth: you coming to UDS?
[06:44] <nalioth> mneptok: nope
[06:44] <gord> i'm at UDS!
[06:44] <nalioth> they made a big mistake picking Dallas instead of Houston
[06:45] <mneptok> nalioth: this time of year, perhaps. summer? no way.
[06:45] <nalioth> any time of year
[06:45] <gord> its been warm and sunny all week here in dallas
[06:45] <mneptok> gord: see you tomorrow evening.
[06:45] <nalioth> dallas has nothing whatsoever to do
[06:45] <gord> this is true
[06:46] <gord> and to get anywhere you have to rent a car
[06:46] <mneptok> nalioth: high school football. big hair ...
[06:47] <mneptok> Firing Range Night should be fun.
[06:47] <nalioth> be more fun in Houston
[06:47] <gord> uds isn't about fun ;)
[06:48] <nalioth> gord: no, but 'Firing Range Night" is . .
[06:48] <mneptok> gord: does that mean you're taking yourself off the list?
[06:49] <gord> of course not :) shooting stuff night will be fun
[06:49] <gord> just that i have been here a week already and i'm exhausted, uds itself won't be much fun ;)
[06:49]  * mneptok hopes the AR-15s are Stag manufactured
[06:49] <mneptok> got my eye on one. want to try one out.
[06:50] <nalioth> you can rent full autos in Houston
[06:50] <nalioth> the only reason Dallas got UDS is that their chamber of commerce has a larger budget for strippers
[06:50] <mneptok> nalioth: range rules say "our ammo only." that translates to "mortgage your house to go full auto."
[06:55] <elky> nalioth, uh... are you forgetting that this is a logged channel?
[06:56] <nalioth> elky: nope.
[06:56] <Dragonzord> ITs offical!
[06:56] <Dragonzord> Linux sucks
[06:57] <elky> lame troll is lame.
[08:10] <maco> mneptok: hey im getting to dfw about 20 minutes before you
[08:10] <maco> mneptok: cab?
[08:21] <mneptok> maco: see PM
[08:27]  * mneptok toddles off to bed
[10:17] <ikonia> nalioth:  hello, I'm around now, sorry I was away last night
[10:24] <ikonia> interesting, just came back to another private message from "buck" flooding me with the output of "ls -lR /" on his machine
[10:24] <ikonia> seems you all had an interesting night
[11:23] <bazhang> heh. to say the least
[14:02] <tsimpson> I just got some spam from webturtle0a in #u
[14:03] <tsimpson> looks like a bot with /cycle protection
[14:04] <bazhang> yep
[14:04] <bazhang> webturtle0 is there as well
[14:05] <Seeker`> I think I just banned the wrong one
[14:05] <bazhang> heh
[14:05] <bazhang> I was just going to PM webturtle0
[14:05] <Seeker`> feel free to
[14:05] <bazhang> the botmaster got kicked and the bot disconnected Seeker`
[14:06] <tsimpson> #ubuntu i=jorry 190.193.64.43 irc.freenode.net [SkG]a H :0 George
[14:06] <tsimpson> same ident, same IP
[14:07] <tsimpson> they quit anyway
[14:08] <tsimpson> now sinsuna
[14:12] <bazhang> user complained about sinsuna in #ubuntu ; I have in PM but no response after removal
[14:12] <Gary> klined
[14:12] <bazhang>  sinsuna has quit (K-lined)
[14:12] <bazhang> whoops
[14:12] <bazhang> thanks Gary :)
[14:20] <Gary> I'm pretty sure webturtle0 is the bot runner, eh?
[14:20] <bazhang> seems like Gary
[15:36] <aaron11> Hello
[15:36] <bazhang> hi aaron11
[15:36] <jrib> hello aaron11
[15:36] <jrib> aaron11: how can we help?
[15:37] <aaron11> can you edit !linux to Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[15:37] <jrib> !linux
[15:37] <aaron11> You see it says as kernel
[15:38] <aaron11> So did you change it
[15:39] <jrib> !linux =~ s/as kernel/as a kernel/
[15:39] <jrib> !linux
[15:39] <aaron11> Thanks
[16:39] <nalioth> ubottu: tell xerei about botabuse
[16:41]  * MenZa boggles.
[16:43] <gord> yeah, foo isn't bar
[16:45] <MenZa> indeed.
[20:34] <ikonia> black_man has been a problem in other channels today, I'm going to give him a chance, but not too much
[20:36] <KB1JWQ> Heh, not sure I'd bother, ikonia
[20:37] <ikonia> gone - be aware of #defocus and #freenode
[20:37] <KB1JWQ> Oh, we're well aware.
[20:38] <KB1JWQ> He's silenced in both.
[20:38] <ikonia> oooh, fair enough, didn't see that
[20:38] <ikonia> ahhh yes, -v sorry
[20:41] <Amaranth> Time to open #ubuntu+1 again
[20:42] <ikonia> it's getting that way
[20:42] <Amaranth> UDS starts tomorrow
[22:30] <ikonia> hey ardchoille
[22:30] <ardchoille> I was told to join this chanel by ikonia
[22:30] <ikonia> you sure where
[22:30] <ikonia> do you want to post a link to the pages having a problem ?
[22:30] <ardchoille> I am seeing a problem with family unfriendly content being displayed on the ubuntu docs site
[22:30] <ardchoille> ikonia: I have a screenshot, want to see it?
[22:31] <ikonia> what's the link
[22:31] <ardchoille> http://picasaweb.google.com/ardchoille42/Screenshots#5404459896421549890
[22:31] <ikonia> ardchoille: what's the real link though
[22:32] <ardchoille> oh, ok, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation and type in maximus into the search box. Then look at the ads on the right of the page
[22:32] <ardchoille> maximus is an app in the repos that forces all windows to be maximised
[22:32] <ardchoille> but the ads say much different
[22:33] <MenZa> Easily re-producable. Should have a bug reported and assign the wiki/web team on that. I agree, that's highly inappropriate.
[22:33] <Flannel> I don't see any ads...
[22:33] <ardchoille> thank you MenZa
[22:33] <MenZa> Flannel: Stop using AdBlock.
[22:33] <ikonia> that's why I'm testing now
[22:33] <Flannel> MenZa: I disabled it!
[22:33] <Flannel> I even enabled javascript
[22:33] <MenZa> I have the ads.
[22:33] <Flannel> MenZa: Are you logged in by any chance?
[22:33] <ikonia> looks like that page is having a problem in general, I don't get it loading at all
[22:33] <ardchoille> I'm not logged in
[22:33] <MenZa> Flannel: I'm not sure.
[22:34] <Flannel> MenZa: Do you see your name in the top right?
[22:34] <MenZa> It works for me. I'll happily report a bug.
[22:34] <MenZa> No, Flannel.
[22:34] <Flannel> MenZa: You're not
[22:34] <MenZa> Not that that matters.
[22:34] <ikonia> screen shot paints a bad picture
[22:34] <Flannel> Ads must only appear if you're not logged in
[22:34] <Flannel> Oh right, because that horrible fixed-width site only happens if you're not logged in.
[22:34] <ikonia> if those ads are genuine which they seem to be it's not good
[22:35] <ardchoille> ikonia: in the screenshot, just above and to the right of the pic, click the magnifying glass to get a larger view
[22:35]  * Flannel isn't sure he likes the idea of ads on help.ubuntu.com/community/ anyway
[22:35] <MenZa> I'll crack open a bug on Launchpad immediately.
[22:35] <MenZa> Thank you, ardchoille
[22:35] <ikonia> ardchoille: yes, I see them
[22:35] <ardchoille> Flannel: I totally agree with that
[22:35] <ikonia> Flannel: agreed
[22:35] <ardchoille> you're welcome
[22:35] <Flannel> MenZa: the not-logged-in bit is important to mention
[22:35] <ardchoille> So, can you good folks handle this? If so, I'll leave and leave it to you all.
[22:36] <ardchoille> Or I can help in some way, it's up to you
[22:36] <MenZa> Flannel: Certainly.
[22:36] <MenZa> ardchoille: I'll report it on Launchpad right now. Should have enough information - cheers.
[22:37] <ardchoille> MenZa: Thank you very much :)
[22:37] <MenZa> ardchoille: If you'd like, I can send you a link to the bug so you can subscribe to it and see the outcome.
[22:37] <ardchoille> MenZa: yes, please
[22:37] <MenZa> Shall do :)
[22:38] <Flannel> If you're not logged in, it appears that it uses google custom search.
[22:38] <Flannel> I wonder why when you're logged in it doesn't.
[22:39] <ardchoille> Good thing I was looking for documentation on Maximus :)
[22:40] <ardchoille> I'm going to delete the screenshot since that album is public
[22:41] <MenZa> ardchoille: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/483302
[22:41] <MenZa> I have used your screenshot for the bug report.
[22:41] <MenZa> Now, I'm going to run off to bed.
[22:42] <MenZa> Again, thank you ardchoille
[22:42] <ardchoille> yw
[22:42] <ardchoille> Can I delete the screenshot without affecting that bug report?
[22:58] <jrib> ardchoille: yes
[22:58] <ardchoille> Thank you folks :)