[00:08] <Riddell> seele: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLucidSpecs 10 seems like quite enough to be going on with
[00:09] <Riddell> a couple of those aren't scheduled because there isn't an hour to talk about but we'll still review them
[00:09] <seele> Riddell: ah, maybe that's why. i was looking at the schedule, not the spec list
[00:12] <Riddell> seele: anything paticular you think we should be getting into our lucid specs?
[00:13] <Riddell> besides "finish printer settings/applet", I do want to try for that
[00:17] <Riddell> ScottK: are you wanting to go to anything at 16:15 tomorrow?  we're thinking of bumping the kubuntu development session into that slot
[00:17] <ScottK> Looking
[00:18] <ScottK> Riddell:  I'm scheduled for the Python packaging session.  I think I need to go to that one.
[00:18] <Riddell> ScottK: hay, aren't you ment to be at the airport just now?
[00:19] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes, flight left a little late
[00:19] <Riddell> ah, the wrong airport
[00:19] <seele> Riddell: we could probably do another combthrough for application settings and tweak if necessary
[00:20] <seele> Riddell: a bigger focus on software quality would be good too.. i'd like to see a release where we can guarantee plasma will *never* crash, instead of *almost never*
[00:20] <ScottK> Riddell: Of the Kubuntu sessions, the development one is probably the only I'm least important for.
[00:20] <seele> Riddell: i'd also like to see more discussion and work on notifications. it seems like we got half way then stopped. we have a backend and front end ui, but now we need to work on behavior and defaults
[00:21] <skreech> kpackagekit is horrible
[00:21] <seele> oh, i forgot about that
[00:21] <seele> kpackagekit could use some love too
[00:22] <ScottK> No kidding
[00:22] <seele> but printing is higher priority, it's been like 3 years
[00:22] <ScottK> seele: Love it to death.
[00:22] <seele> ScottK: not a packagekit fan?
[00:23] <Riddell> dantti_ and other work should mean we'll get debconf working with packagekit
[00:23] <skreech> a) why does it insist on a show stopping easily hidden modal dialog with a single button to tell me that it has a new list of software
[00:23] <skreech> b) why if any package has more than 3 dependencies it suggests I install synaptic
[00:23] <ScottK> seele: In this cycle I think it will get to the point where it at least almost has the minimum functionality to be suitable.  Not sure.
[00:24] <Riddell> the UI could do with a load of simplification
[00:24] <ScottK> Yep.
[00:26] <ScottK> Every time the you have updates notification pops up, I think of the Cylons from the original Battle Star Galatica.
[00:38] <ScottK> Riddell: I was wrong about arrival, i forgot the time change.  I've another 50 minutes or so.
[00:41] <seele> ScottK: are you on the plane?
[00:41] <ScottK> seele: Yes.
[00:41] <seele> whoa, inflight internets. awesome
[00:41] <ScottK> Wifi and Kubuntu Netbook.
[00:41]  * seele wishes her flight to berlin would have wifi
[00:41] <ScottK> The netbook really works out in coach class.
[00:42] <seele> i never sleep on those things anyway
[00:42] <seele> i bet.. i'm always afraid someone is going to lean back and crunch my laptop, and i have a small one
[00:42] <ScottK> The guy next to me has a full size laptop and the seat in front of him was all the way back.  He was trying to play solitare with it half open, but gave up quickly.
[00:42] <seele> lol
[00:43] <ScottK> Battery lasts the entire flight too.
[00:44] <shtylman> fancy
[00:44] <ScottK> shtylman: You there yet?
[00:45] <shtylman> yep
[00:45] <shtylman> sitting right next to Riddell
[00:45] <shtylman> got in yesterday
[00:46] <ScottK> Nice.
[00:46] <ScottK> I got the cover slide for my plenary presentation done.
[00:52] <neversfelde> Riddell: Amarok Karmic uploaded
[00:53] <Riddell> neversfelde: yay
[00:54] <neversfelde> Riddell: I should be online tomorrow all day, I'll move the packages to the backports ppa once it is released, if this is ok?
[00:56] <shtylman> ScottK: can't wait to hear it :)
[00:56] <seele> Riddell: are you coming to camp kde?
[00:56] <ScottK> Can't wait to have it done....
[00:56] <Riddell> seele: no current plans
[00:57] <seele> fuuuuuuu
[00:58] <seele> (the noise, not fu :P)
[00:58] <Riddell> feel free to try and persuade me
[00:59] <ScottK> San Diego is a very nice place.
[00:59] <ScottK> Very relaxed with a pleasant climate.
[00:59] <ScottK> Lots of great food.
[01:00] <ScottK> IETF meets there sometims, so the Internet is likely usable
[01:00] <seele> lol
[01:03] <Riddell> rgreening: shtylman went to stalk you but couldn't find you
[01:03] <ScottK> He should be easy enough to find....
[01:05] <Riddell> Lex79: kdeaccessibility uploaded, I removed the arm patch from NCommander because there's another fix which went upstream
[01:06] <ScottK> OK.  Time to land.  I'll see you in a bit (hopefully)
[01:06] <Riddell> good luck, don't crash
[01:08] <ScottK> OK.
[01:08] <rgreening> Riddell, shtylman__: im in a meeting 4th fl. crew...
[01:14] <rgreening_> actually, isnt shtylman__ supposed to be here video crew....
[01:15] <Lex79> Riddell: ok
[01:15] <Riddell> rgreening_: he says he's not
[01:17] <Riddell> rgreening_: do they need more crew?
[01:29]  * ryanakca casually mentions that his dad is enjoying his Kubuntu desktop much more now than when it was Ubuntu :)
[01:30] <jjesse> ryanakca nice job :)
[01:30] <ryanakca> jjesse: I'm getting my mum setup tomorrow :D
[01:30] <jjesse> yay
[01:38] <JontheEchidna> ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu.com/319668/
[01:38] <JontheEchidna> ripped from debian's ktorrent package :P
[01:40] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: Thanks... looks so much uglier than CDBS though :) ... just a sec, one more
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> personally I'm looking more towards source format 3.0 than the dh7 stuff, since we pretty much already had uber-simple stuff with cdbs
[01:41] <ryanakca> dh7's equivalent to DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE := .py
[01:41] <seele> argh.. crashed again
[01:41] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: *nod*, I like CDBS
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> hum, dunno on that last one
[01:42] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: OK, thanks
[01:45] <agateau> shtylman__: you may not want to wait for us, i believe we are having dinner in this meeting :/
[02:04] <shtylman_> Riddell: ping
[02:06] <neversfelde> yay knotify works with amarok
[03:59]  * logipunk was previously jwisser.
[04:00] <skreech> Good to know
[04:00]  * JontheEchidna ...obtains... the new Doctor Who special
[04:01] <logipunk> JontheEchidna: It's *so good*.
[04:01] <logipunk> I just watched it a bit ago.
[04:01] <JontheEchidna> Can't wait :3
[04:01] <logipunk> I also just downloaded K-9: Regeneration.
[04:01] <logipunk> I kind of don't want to watch it because I suspect it's going to be heinously bad.
[04:02] <JontheEchidna> "Star Wars Christmas Special"-type bad?
[04:42] <logipunk> JontheEchidna: Never seen it, so I can't say. Just watched K-9, though; it was fairly painful.
[04:42] <JontheEchidna> heh
[04:43] <logipunk> The acting is… not great.
[06:23] <ScottK> Riddell: The session at 1615 that I wanted to go to got moved, so I'm free.
[06:23] <ScottK> (for tomorrow)
[06:23] <ScottK> (or I guess later today now)
[07:15] <markey> morning
[12:09] <doc___> hi there
[12:10] <amichair> what's up, doc___?
[12:12] <nixternal> hehe, you couldn't resist could you? :)
[12:12] <amichair> :-P
[12:12] <doc___> ;P
[13:40] <ryanakca> ScottK: Upstream says they are hoping to release Bangarang 1.0~beta2 this week.
[14:11] <ghostcube> wohoa http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/13/ventblockers/
[14:48]  * yuriy waves at UDSers
[14:52] <ghostcube> http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1
[14:52] <ghostcube> :O
[14:52] <ghostcube> this one is cool
[14:57] <Riddell> morning yuriy
[14:58] <yuriy> morning Riddell
[14:58] <yuriy> first session @11 CST?
[15:04] <Riddell> 11:00 in whatever timezone dallas is in
[15:04]  * ryanakca thinks so
[15:05]  * ryanakca doesn't have school today, so I'll be waiting in -waverly :)
[15:05] <nixternal> dallas is -06:00, Chicago Standard Time (CST)
[15:10] <txwikinger> hi nixternal
[15:10] <Tm_T> nixternal: howdy
[15:10] <nixternal> howdy
[15:11] <jrdnyquist> Chicago Standard Time? :)
[15:11] <yuriy> lol nixternal
[15:11] <nixternal> mmm, tamales on the planet...now I wish I were there in Dallas...though I would probably be at all of the food places and not at UDS :)
[15:11] <nixternal> yes, everything in the US revolves around Chicago...one of these days everyone will understand
[15:11] <jrdnyquist> lol
[15:11] <nixternal> I keep wondering when UDS will be held in a real city!
[15:12] <Tm_T> not in countryside like Dallas?
[15:12] <nixternal> we have Google, Yahoo, Microsoft (their 2nd largest campus too), Red Hat, Novell, and the most open source companies in one location!
[15:12] <nixternal> Dallas is good for food!
[15:12] <nixternal> now if it were in Austin that would be a different story
[15:12] <nixternal> Austin is the 2nd greatest city, next to Chicago of course :p
[15:12] <jrdnyquist> Redhat's in RTP :p
[15:13] <nixternal> they have some groovy office space here in Chicago too...I interviewed with them last year
[15:15] <ghostcube> Chicago still as dirty as last time i seen pics of it ?
[15:15] <ghostcube> :D
[15:15] <ghostcube> oh no this was detroit
[15:15] <ghostcube> nm
[15:16] <ghostcube> :<
[15:23] <ryanakca> Oh, UNR might get renamed to UNE? I wonder if it has anything to do with us choosing KNE instead of KNR :)
[15:32] <ScottK> ryanakca: No, actually we're going to have to rename KNR.  I got in a little trouble over that choice.
[15:33] <ryanakca> ScottK: ... but KNE sounds so much cooler than KNR :/ *sigh*
[15:33] <ScottK> I agree.
[15:34] <ScottK> OTOH, the trademark policy very clearly says avoid the term 'edition', so it's my bad
[15:34] <frederik_> j #ubuntu
[15:34] <frederik_> oops
[15:35] <ryanakca> ScottK: Ah, but if Ubuntu gets an UNE, why won't Canonical let us have KNE? Any rationale behind it, or is it just a decision taken by the powers that be that we're expected to follow?
[15:36] <ScottK> I think it's possible, but we'd have to get to where Canonical was willing to support it as a product.
[15:36] <ScottK> So we need to prove ourselves first.
[15:36] <ScottK> That's what we want anyway.
[15:36] <ryanakca> Ah
[15:37]  * ryanakca is considering purchasing himself a netbook so he can run KNR, just have to pick on :)
[15:37] <ryanakca> one even
[15:39] <ScottK> It works out quite nice on an airplane where it actually fits on the tray and is usable.  I sat next to I guy who was totally crushed with his huge laptop and could use it.
[15:40]  * ryanakca nods
[15:42] <ryanakca> I have good eyesight and small fingers, so the size won't be an issue either. Only thing I'm concerned about is purchasing one and then 1) have it run sluggishly or 2) if it has a solid state drive, I don't want to have it die on me in a couple of years.
[15:56] <sebas> ryanakca: in a couple of years, replacement SSDs  are cheap :)
[15:57] <\sh> sebas, in a couple of years time, we can use our brain as direct attached storage ;)
[15:58] <sebas> we need a really good bad block checker then :)
[15:59] <\sh> sebas, for twitter and facebook and google? no...we just need to update the APIs ;) actually we don't need any computer at all ;)
[15:59] <DeeTah> hi guys!
[15:59] <DeeTah> i've got a problem with kubuntu-netbook install off a pendrive
[15:59] <DeeTah> it simply says it can't mount /cow using /dev/loop1.
[15:59] <DeeTah> I don't even know what to try to check what's the problem
[16:00] <DeeTah> md5's are fine, dmesg's clear, casper.log suggests a syntax error behaviour
[16:00] <DeeTah> what file should I try to mount there to see what's wrong?
[16:02] <DeeTah> anybody? please...
[16:10] <frederik_> updating kernel from 2.6.31-14 to 15 breaks my intel 82945 driver - x claims it cannot load the module
[16:12] <tsimpson> we don't handle kernel or X issues here, try filing a bug or searching for a previously filed bug
[17:22] <neversfelde> apachelogger: http://kubdeb.weebly.com/
[17:22] <neversfelde> I am not sure, if I really want to talk to him ;)
[17:23] <nixternal> neversfelde: what is that about?
[17:24] <neversfelde> nixternal: the guy was creating packages for kubuntu and apachelogger asked me to invite him here
[17:25] <nixternal> that looks like ScottK's middle finger...all old and decreped like
[17:58] <nixternal> where are the kubuntu peeps going next?
[17:58] <nixternal> there are 2 open rooms according to the schedule
[18:11]  * ScottK is in a security session
[18:11] <Riddell> neversfelde: what's the status of amarok packaging?
[18:12] <neversfelde> Riddell: all done, it waits in staging for the release
[18:12] <Riddell> neversfelde: do we know what that is?
[18:13] <Riddell> s/what/when/
[18:13] <neversfelde> Riddell: should be in the next hours
[18:13] <Riddell> neversfelde: do you want to prepare the story for the website? I don't remember if you have access
[18:14] <neversfelde> Riddell: no access, but I can do this
[18:14] <neversfelde> if I get access of course :)
[18:15] <ryanakca> worse comes to worse, I can paste it in
[18:16] <Riddell> ryanakca: I just gave him access
[18:17] <ryanakca> lovely :)
[18:18]  * yuriy should get some headphones and listen in
[18:19] <ryanakca> Riddell: Do you know if Ofir has returned with any new mockups? If we choose his mockup, I'd like to start porting it to the wiki some time. As for the drupal theme, it's already done, he took screenshots of his drupal install for the mockups :)
[18:20] <Riddell> I've not heard from ofir
[18:23] <Riddell> neversfelde: cor, this new amarok has UI changes
[18:24] <neversfelde> Riddell: yes, and they are untranslated
[18:24] <neversfelde> Riddell: we use the backports ppa right?
[18:24] <Riddell> that presumably makes it not a bugfix release, so it should go into kubuntu-ppa/backports not kubuntu-ppa/updates
[18:24] <neversfelde> ok
[18:24] <Riddell> neversfelde: were there any pacakging changes needed between lucid and karmic?  (i.e. can it go into ubuntu karmic-backports?)
[18:25] <neversfelde> Riddell: no changes needed, I can write a backport request?
[18:25] <Riddell> neversfelde: please do
[18:43] <Riddell> the countdown label on the new amarok is strange
[18:43] <Riddell> count up label is 1:48 for minutes:seconds
[18:43] <Tm_T> -3 days left?
[18:43] <Riddell> count down says --1:0-58
[18:43] <Riddell> I've no idea what that means
[18:43] <Tm_T> oh, that way strange
[18:47] <nixternal> the Doctor?
[18:48] <Riddell> Who?
[18:48] <nixternal> "The Doctor thinks that Kubuntu is awesome"
[18:49] <Riddell> he does indeed
[18:49] <Tm_T> (:
[18:50] <Riddell> jussi01: I've taken plasma-widget-networkmanagement out of kubuntu-ppa/updates for now
[18:50] <jussi01> Riddell: excellent.
[18:50] <jussi01> btw, wheres lunch?
[18:51] <Tm_T> jussi01: hi, got to the place eventually?
[18:51] <jussi01> yup
[18:51] <Tm_T> good, nasty mess that strike indeed
[18:51] <Riddell> strike?  did you go through france? :)
[18:52] <Tm_T> Riddell: nope, "the finnish airline" Finnair has pilots on (in) strike
[18:52] <Tm_T> which one is it, on or in?
[18:52] <Riddell> one goes on strike
[18:53] <Tm_T> so I thought but wasn't sure
[18:53] <Tm_T> thanks (:
[18:53] <loadus> (if one gets 300 000 € per year, one does not go on strike :P )
[18:53] <bdgraue> Riddell: why did you remove the plasma-widget-networkmanagement? a special problem?
[18:54] <Riddell> bdgraue: both me and jussi01 are seeing it failing to set the default route to the internet
[18:55] <bdgraue> Riddell: ha, had the same problem here and just wanted to find out whats wrong with it :D
[18:55] <Riddell> jussi01: I'm guessing lunch is the same place as breakfast
[18:55] <Riddell> bdgraue: using the version from kubuntu-ppa/updates ?
[18:56] <bdgraue> Riddell: i used the version from kubuntu-ppa/backports
[18:57] <bdgraue> had to remove it and install the "normal" kubuntu version to get internet with wifi
[18:59] <Tm_T> Riddell: I'm so glad networkmanager bits are and will be better in 4.4, less headache from it (I hope)
[19:00] <Riddell> bdgraue, jussi01: upstream confirmed the issue, I'll package the fix when I get a chance
[19:00] <bdgraue> Riddell: thanks
[19:05] <ulysses__> greetings, I read about testdrive, is it possible to test Kubuntu Lucid with it?
[19:17] <jussi01> Riddell: excellent. :)
[19:22] <Quintasan> hmm, there are so many rooms, how do I know what's in each room?
[19:23] <tsimpson> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/
[19:23] <Quintasan> thanks
[19:28] <ghostcube> ehlo humans and wanna be humans
[19:28] <Quintasan> ghostcube: \o
[19:28] <ghostcube> hi Quintasan :)
[19:43] <Riddell> ScottK: I've not moved the development spec session, I'm (apparantly) needed at 16:15 and you at 17:10 and I think we're fine if txwikinger goes to the bugs one
[20:02] <EagleScreen> Kubuntu karmic does not connect to a wireless Internet network propertly if a WPA key is used, connection is stablished, but any website can be browsed, it isn't a DNS matter, bacause also cannot browse by ip
[20:06] <Riddell> EagleScreen: pastebin  route -n
[20:19] <ryanakca> ScottK: I've finished the commit announcing plugin for LP branches for kubugtu... What branches should be watched?
[20:20] <Riddell> ryanakca: anything owned by ~kubuntu-members?
[20:21] <ryanakca> Riddell: OK
[20:22] <ryanakca> Riddell: Ouch, checking all ninety of them every five minutes will use up 18GB of bandwidth / month.
[20:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[20:26] <yuriy> how are the sessions coming along? anything exciting?
[20:27] <Riddell> we're going to switch to lxde and chromium
[20:28] <Tm_T> Riddell: finally
[20:31] <nixternal> chromium ftw!
[20:31]  * JontheEchidna wouldn't mind chromium, if it was feasible to do so
[20:31] <nixternal> lxde I don't know about...I would prefer wmii or awesome
[20:31] <nixternal> awesome cuz haskell rocks!
[20:32] <smarter> nixternal: don't you mean xmonad?
[20:32] <Tm_T> nixternal: wmii or awesome aren't desktop environments?
[20:32] <smarter> awesome is written in C(iirc), and uses lua for config files
[20:32] <nixternal> err, ya xmonad
[20:32] <nixternal> can't believe I keep saying awesome when I mean xmonad
[20:32] <nixternal> wonder why I keep doing that today?
[20:32] <smarter> but I agree with the second part of your statement, Haskell rocks :P
[20:33] <smarter> I imagine you associate haskell with awesomeness in your brain ;)
[20:33] <nixternal> could be :)
[20:33] <EagleScreen> Riddell: this is my current route -n when connected by WEP key http://pastebin.ca/1673918
[20:34] <EagleScreen> I supose you expect also the route -n when connected by WPA and not capable to browse
[20:34] <EagleScreen> i will provide in a few minutes
[20:34] <EagleScreen> see you again soon
[20:41] <Quintasan> There are some videotaped sessions, where I can watch em?
[20:46] <loadus> I made a small theme suggestion for 10.04, where and to who I could suggest it to? :)
[20:48] <nixternal> loadus: kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com - include links to plenty of screenshots of course so we can see :)
[20:49] <loadus> I did a thread on the kubuntu forums, mainly, because the whole thing is soooo beta - just brainstorming on the idea
[20:49] <ghostcube> http://haskell.org/sitewiki/images/a/aa/Screen-triplehead-galois.jpg
[20:49] <ghostcube> o.o
[20:49] <nixternal> any pics yet?
[20:50] <nixternal> ghostcube: I used that config for my triple head setup
[20:50] <loadus> nixternal: it might look a bit boring: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107841.0
[20:50] <ghostcube> o.o
[20:53] <nixternal> that theme reminds me of fedora a lil...not a bad thing of course
[20:53] <nixternal> don't know how much we want to stray from a vanilla kde look though...
[20:53] <Kairi> hello Riddell, I was EagleScreen before, here is the route -n when connection fails: http://pastebin.ca/1673941
[20:53] <loadus> nixternal: yeh, I had a feeling
[20:54] <nixternal> it definitely has a professional look/feel to it I must say
[20:54] <loadus>  but v10 gives excuse to give kubuntu a unique look
[20:54] <Riddell> Kairi: apt-cache policy plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[20:54] <loadus> thx, still working on it
[20:55] <refic> loadus: very nice theme
[20:55] <loadus> font being the most prominent problem atm
[20:55] <loadus> thx
[20:56] <nixternal> ya, I like that font to be honest...need a free version of something that looks like it
[20:56] <Kairi> I am using KDE 4.3.3 ppa packages, I didn't remember, so: http://pastebin.ca/1673950  can that be the source of this issue?
[20:57] <loadus> nixternal: found one, but to look that smooth, font settings need to have antialias on full - and that's not a good option on some installs : /
[20:57] <loadus>  might have to go on with the trusty ol' sans
[20:57] <nixternal> ya, i don't use antialiasing..give me a head ache
[20:58] <loadus> yeh, that font has it's 'hints' removed so it gives a full AA
[20:59] <loadus> but with hinting it looks goofy
[20:59] <loadus> and without hinting and without antialiasing it looks .. well .. horror
[20:59] <Kairi> did you see the paste, Riddell? :)
[21:00] <Riddell> Kairi: yes that looks like the problem I think it is
[21:01] <Kairi> then must I test with karmic original package, Riddell?
[21:05] <Riddell> Kairi: I uploaded a fix an hour ago
[21:05] <Riddell> Kairi: so please wait until that's compiled and test that
[21:06] <Riddell> it'll be in the kubuntu-ppa/staging PPA
[21:06] <Kairi> okay, i also will test wicd in curiosity
[22:01] <nixternal> Riddell: ooh, I see you are doing VPN out of the box, good deal...that will make many happy if we had that (knetworkmangler to the rescue!)
[22:02] <ScottK> Riddell: Bug #483851
[22:02] <nixternal> another project I can request to be closed and removed from LP
[22:03] <Mr_Enchilada> what'd I miss on the most previous meeting?
[22:03] <Mr_Enchilada> besides enchiladas ;-)
[22:05] <Riddell> Mr_Enchilada: look at the gobby document for the notes
[22:05] <Mr_Enchilada> mm, now I'll have to figure out how to use that
[22:05] <nixternal> ScottK: how old is your oldest?
[22:05] <Riddell> or wait until I write it up as a spec
[22:05] <nixternal> I am thinkin' I should quit with the gezer jokes as I think she is only a couple of years older than my daughter :)
[22:06] <Riddell> nixternal has a daughter?
[22:08] <bdgraue> Riddell: is 0.9~svn1040607-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2 the new package(plasma-widget-networkmanagement)?
[22:09] <Riddell> bdgraue: yes
[22:09] <bdgraue> Riddell: doesn't work for me :(
[22:09] <ryanakca> If I setup an infinoted server, could some of the Kubuntu people at UDS test Kobby during a session? Or even test it outside of a session?
[22:10] <bdgraue> same problem
[22:10] <nixternal> Riddell: yes, a 13 year old daughter :)
[22:10] <nixternal> a nixternal jr. which is a bit scary
[22:10] <Tm_T> older than me then
[22:11] <Riddell> nixternal: no whay, how did I not know that, congratulations
[22:11] <Tm_T> ...what, I wasn't 11 anymore?
[22:11] <nixternal> hahahha, you are 13 years to late on that one :p
[22:11] <Tm_T> nixternal: my daughter just had her first birthday (:
[22:11] <nixternal> ahh, I remember the first birthday
[22:11] <nixternal> ok, I really don't, but it sounded good
[22:11] <bdgraue> *lol*
[22:11] <JontheEnchilada> anybody up for sponsoring a merge? bug 482221
[22:11] <nixternal> shoot, now I am trying to remember it
[22:12] <nixternal> anywho, my old arse needs a nap :)
[22:12] <bdgraue> my son is 5 years old, can't remember his first birthday
[22:12] <JontheEnchilada> merge/ new upstream release. Maybe I should have billed it as the latter
[22:13] <amichair> just when I was reading about echidnas and how they're egg-laying mammals, jon turns into an enchilada and everyone else has offspring :-)
[22:18] <ScottK> nixternal: 18.  It was the 15 year old I was getting feedback from.
[22:19]  * ScottK also has a 6 year old.
[22:19]  * Sput can't remember his first birthday
[22:20] <Sput> I was probably drunk
[22:20] <Sput> or stoned, that's much more likely giving the circumstances :>
[22:20] <Sput> *given
[22:20] <amichair> Sput: you were stoned on your first birthday?!
[22:21] <Sput> well, I didn't have my own room, so I slept in the living room...
[22:21] <Sput> as a baby :)
[22:21] <Riddell> "Bag Tag Number(s): DFW BA 610604 has been located and arrived on Nov 16. If you have arranged for delivery, please continue to check back for delivery status"  ooh progress
[22:22] <Sput> ah, British Airways?
[22:22] <maco> Riddell: no clothes? do you wanna go to the mall with me tonight?
[22:23] <Tm_T> Riddell: hooray (:
[22:23] <jussi01> Riddell: :D
[22:24] <jussi01> Riddell: where are you currently?
[22:24] <Riddell> jussi01: waverly doing nothing much
[22:25] <jussi01> ahh. k :)
[22:25] <Riddell> maco: I am getting smelly.  what's happening at the mall?
[22:25] <Riddell> jussi01: anything interesting happening elsewhere?
[22:25] <maco> Riddell: well youve a lack of clothing if youve a lack of luggage. perhaps you want to buy clean clothes to wear til you get luggage
[22:26] <Riddell> maco: yes that would be nice, do you know how to get there?
[22:26] <jussi01> Riddell: marketing session isnt bad, in presidente.
[22:26] <maco> Riddell: redline on the dart (underground)
[22:26] <Riddell> maco: there's an underground here?
[22:26] <maco> Riddell: yes
[22:46] <Riddell> rdieter_work: fedora uses polkit 1 but polkit-qt-0.9?  how does that work?
[22:47] <Riddell> shtylman__: did you find a slot for your session?
[22:58] <lukas> Hi, after upgrading to Karmic I have impression that at least some kubuntu applications like konversation and some others suffer from mutex lock related performance problems - it takes some time form execution and window appearance to working state. Is that observed?
[22:59] <lukas> I am not sure how to debug that or trigger somehow to say what is happening.
[23:00] <lukas> Or am I on wrong channel?
[23:05] <Riddell> lukas: lll
[23:05] <lukas> Riddell: sorry?
[23:06] <nixternal> bah for a nap
[23:07] <nixternal> yay, I can synch my bookmarks in chromium now \o/
[23:07] <Riddell> lukas: so the window appears but isn't responsive for a while?
[23:07] <lukas> Riddell: yes, on more applications
[23:07] <lukas> Riddell: eg konversaion, glade ...
[23:10] <lukas> Riddell: I thought that it is caused by pulseaudio, but I do not see why glade should contact sound server
[23:12] <lukas> Riddell: any idea?
[23:12] <Riddell> could be X?
[23:13] <Riddell> something to do with compositing that it delays showing the window contents?
[23:13] <Riddell> I really don't konw
[23:13] <lukas> Riddell: I would not say so, I tried to strace it and usual reason is fulex lock
[23:13] <lukas> Riddell: it is only on start, on switching
[23:13] <lukas> sorry, not on switching window
[23:14] <lukas> oh, futex lock
[23:14] <lukas> like if locking was for any reason slow
[23:15] <neversfelde> I published the Amarok News on kubuntu.org. Hope all went fine
[23:16] <Blizzz> neversfelde: at least my upgrade finished successfully right now
[23:17] <neversfelde> Blizzz: I love Drupal, you should know this. So I was afraid that I shoot the whole website :D
[23:18] <Blizzz> i don't really understand where (well, rather why) you got your phobia
[23:35] <nixternal> ok, who is slipping on getting out the latest kdevelop?
[23:35] <nixternal> is it in a ppa somewhere?
[23:42] <Riddell> nixternal: I don't think anyone has done kdevelop yet, it does need doing
[23:49] <nixternal> roger that
[23:51] <nixternal> Riddell: is this for a ppa or for -proposed?
[23:55] <nixternal> would be nice if kdevplatform and kdevelop showed up in merges :/
[23:58] <nixternal> hrmm, seems it is already in lucid