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PlanetaryI have no sound. 9.10. banshee doesnt play and has red X. amorok plays no sound. firefox has no sound. my speakers work. help please! :)00:05
dhillon-v10Planetary, I think you might have to report a bug :)00:11
Planetaryok. another sound problem is my laptop I updated to 9.10 and it worked fine and then banshee stopped working. vlc and internet works00:13
k4reporting bug is the best thing to do00:14
dhillon-v10Planetary, that is a software issue I think :)00:14
Planetaryok so what do i do00:15
Planetarywhere is the best place to go report00:15
trgbeckreinstal ALAS Stuff and Pulse audio stuff  under synaptic or kpackage ---l had same problem with intel hda00:16
trgbeckWhen i upgrade had the samerhing and searched around and found this in google and said in my areas that what to do00:17
dhillon-v10Planetary, launchpad if you have reported bugs before00:17
k4https://launchpad.net/ubuntu00:18
k4https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu00:18
Planetaryok thanks.00:20
Planetaryi ahve a / partition and a home partition. I did a new install so i formated / and made it ext3 and left home alone. all my settings and sound problem restored. are settings saved in /home?00:22
Planetaryi mean i change / from ext3 to 400:23
d9500Planetary, as far as sound settings go, alsa levels are stored in /etc/asound.state, but pulseaudio stores some, if not all, settings in ~/.pulse00:32
Planetaryk thatnks00:34
PlanetaryI dont understand. I did a new install because my 9.04 was messed up and now all the problems are coming back. like dolphin has no window boarder, no sound. why is that. my home partition was not formated but / was00:36
Planetaryi am runnin compiz btw00:37
dhillon-v10Planetary, try disabling compiz00:38
d9500planetary, not sure about that. I would try splitting the problems up. for example, to start with the windows borders--get rid of the compiz --replace entry in your startup programs and let kwin manage the windows00:40
jwxhey! why is it I have to select wallpaper twice in kde first file dialog then in image dropdown list.. it's silly00:41
Planetaryok its fine with kwin. i havent made compiz load at startup00:41
jwxand if theres a lot of wallpapers in there it lags00:41
jwxit should auto select wallpaper choosen in file dialog but doesnt =/00:42
d9500planetary, i'm not sure about the sound, but, just to get the dumb "is the computer plugged in" type questions out of the way, have you ran lspci -v to make sure that your sound card is recognized and driver (kernel module) is available? opened alsamixer in terminal and made sure your pcm isn't muted and is turned all the way up?00:46
jwxgetting icon themes and color themes online is intuitive.. button for those.. but what about kde4 theme/style.. is there a button for that? just some random thoughts00:47
d9500jwk, you mean a button to change the plasma theme from within the gui?00:48
Planetaryd9500 i havent done lspci. i have opened alsa mixer and my master and pcm are around 75-80% , i set it there for lower distortion.00:49
jwxd9500: i mean qt theme or whatever it is called..00:49
jwxkde style00:49
jwxnot the plasma theme00:50
Planetaryd9500 lspci -v shows it00:51
d9500planetary, and turning the pcm up to 100 and then trying to play a song still does nothing (i often have to do that; you can try turning it back to 80 once the song plays if turning it up to 100 works)00:52
d9500jwx, you mean under system settings > appearance?00:53
jwxd9500: right i want a button to download new styles automatically.. like for color schemes etc00:55
jwx=)00:55
jwxbut there is none00:55
d9500jwx, no, i don't think it's built into kde4. At least, if it is, I can't find a config file in ~/kde4/share/config to modify that would make a button appear01:00
d9500(well, it's a different directory in this distro, but that's where it would probably be in a stock kde4 install, I guess)01:00
jwxnot that it's needed.. but hey if they do it for color schemes and icon themes.. why not01:02
jwxthe wallpaper thing is annoying.. doesn't set selected wallpaper from file dialog as default in the wallpaper dropdown list.. maybe it's a bug01:04
d9500jwx, in desktop settings > picture?01:05
jwxd9500: yea01:06
jwxdoesn't work here.. have to scroll the list and select the wallpaper already selected in the file dialog.. weird01:07
d9500in mine, wallpaper > picture does set the wallpaper i select as default next time i open the dropdown for picture, without scrolling, so it could be a bug specific to the distro01:08
Planetaryd9500: still no go on sound. ill work at it later. thanks for the help everyone01:10
jwxinteresting to know.. here it just sets the selected wallpaper at the top of that list.. but not setting it as default to apply right away.. have to scroll up to the top01:11
jwxnot sure if it's a kde, kubuntu bug or my box messed up someway01:11
rav_hello. i updated to karmic and now i can't transfer files through bluetooth to my cell phone anymore. is this a known issue?01:45
rustam01:49
rustamhello. how to get to work on emc2 Kubuntu 901:49
rustamhello. is there anyone? I was the first time here01:53
rustamI'm here for the first time01:54
ZxcvbI configured the power managment notifications not to do anything when the AC adapter is inserted or removed, but it still pops up a notification and plays the sound01:56
Zxcvbhow can I fix this?01:56
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Mandingo-Laptopwhere do i put firmware files02:11
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Mandingo-Laptopany102:15
Mandingo-Laptopwhere do i put firmware files02:15
Mandingo-Laptopi dont want to put them in the wrong place02:16
nasrullahhi02:22
nasrullahi cannot shutdown and restart karmic ..your help please02:22
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vbin_ 都是老外?02:42
jsubl2Goodbye and Farewell03:30
twotenI just installed Kubuntu 9.10, and the nVidia driver will not load, so I look at my xorg.conf, and it's basically worthless, all the driver details have been off loaded somewhere else03:49
twotenwhere have these ubuntu masterminds placed the real info for xorg?03:49
_Techie_is the current ISO of kubuntu very stable?03:52
jsubl2it is for me.. i am using the 64bit branch03:52
d9500twoten, the newer ubuntus and their derivatives do not use the old style xorg.conf. in fact, a stock install may have no xorg.conf at all. pastebin your xorg.conf so i can look for which portions are missing. also, what is your card model and are you running a single monitor, dual monitor, or other configuration, like one horizontal monitor and one vertical?03:54
twotenalright just give me a minute ...03:54
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twotenI did the pastebin under the name twoten03:56
d9500link please?03:57
twotenit's a quadro4 980xgl single monitor, right side up03:58
twotenhttp://pastebin.com/d11845ace03:58
twotenI got the nVidia 96.43.13 driver installed thru synaptic but it doesn't load03:59
twotenI purged all the other drivers first, when I do (from root prompt) nvidia-xconfig, it makes an xorg.conf that bombs out and I have to put the old one back04:02
twotenmaybe I need to do a dpkg -reconfigure?04:02
d9500twoten, if the driver is actually installed correctly (not sure if synaptic did or not) then i've pastebin'd a sample xorg.conf that may work. http://pastebin.com/d6e8ac61104:10
d9500twoten, you may need to modify the fonts section depending on what fonts you want to use. some people like larger characters in their font04:10
d9500twoten, also, be sure to put the model of your card where it says [your card model here]04:11
twotenthanks - looks great - I will backup the old, install the new and restart!04:15
d9500twoten, wait..some instructions if it doesn't work. delete the "board name" line, b/c it might require the actual board name, so if it does require the nvidia code name, then just leave that line out and see if it auto detects04:16
d9500also, i think the nouveau project at nouveau.freedesktop.org has a list of specific names for boards if it does require one.04:16
twotenhardinfo says my card is a nVidia Corporation NV28GL (Quadro4 980 XGL)04:18
d9500ok, let me find the board name on that04:18
d9500twoten, there doesn't seem to be a "g" designation for that one, (like "G92" for example) so I would just try "NV28GL [Quadro 980 XGL]" in the board name line if leaving the line out enteirly fails.04:22
d9500but i would just leave it out at first and see if that works.04:22
d9500entirely*04:23
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twotenokay then I'm going in, I can always get to a root prompt and use mc to make repairs if it bombs out04:25
d9500twoten, and you're certain the driver is installed? what does lsmod | grep nvidia show?04:25
twotenI get 2 lines returned:04:27
twotennvidia               4704212  004:27
twotenagpgart                34988  2 nvidia,intel_agp04:27
d9500twoten, looks like it's loaded. good luck.04:27
twotenthanks for all the great help!04:27
d9500no prob. let me know if it works or not04:28
twotenwell that worked perfectly04:36
twotenalways a pleasure to see the big nVidia logo filling up the screen04:36
twotennow I can install blender!04:36
d9500twoten, you actually like the logo? i never could get it to appear, but a lot of the xorg.conf instructions say to add Option "NoLogo" "True" under the Device section to keep the logo from showing during the initialisation.04:38
d9500twoten, also, check your xorg.0.log for errors on loading fonts and modules, and if you see an error related to a particular one, comment out that line in your xorg.conf and let it autodetect. the errors may be harmless, but no sense in adding extra stuff to log files if you need to look through them later04:39
twotensometimes it blinks for just an instant04:39
d9500glad to hear it worked though. why nvidia can't just release specs and let the devs build an open source driver that doesn't require such a convoluted xorg.conf though?04:41
twotenkind> it's a very competitive and secretive business04:42
twotenunkind> they're a bunch of dominator sociopaths04:42
* d9500 is using nouveau here. no binary-only for me.04:43
d9500at least for now. after that bug with X server 1.7.901, I switched to the open source driver.04:44
twotenthe open source driver just can't cut it when making 3d animations with ray tracing and radiosity04:45
d9500give me decent kwin effects and xv for youtube videos (not like flash isn't crap anyway, but every bit of accel helps) and i'm happy. for what it's wroth, though, the nouveau feature matrix did just fill in two more spots on the 3d features today, so maybe in i year or so the gallium 3d portion of the driver will be usuable04:47
d9500worth*04:47
d9500a year*04:47
LascivusI have a problem and I want to see if anyone here has had the same problem, it's more of an annoyance, than a problem ....04:48
twotengypsy curse?04:48
LascivusI will click on a program from the menu and it will exexute, package manager for this example...  The program will open, ince I click my mouse on any button in hte program, the button wont execute the desired task untill I move the mouse pointer....04:49
LascivusAnyone ever had his problem?04:50
Lascivus*this problem04:50
d9500Lascivus, not exactly, but i'm seeing something similar in 9.10, problems with moving opened windows around. sometimes dragging them does not work. have to click and drag again. but then, it's a vm, so i'm tempted to write it off as just vm typical slowness, except that others have reported the same, presumably on a physical machine.04:52
d9500could be a driver issue or X server, i guess04:52
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luis_Hello guys i am giving invitations to lockerz, any one interested click here: http://www.wix.com/Luija1006/Lockerz-Invites-By-Luis-Javier04:53
twotenmaybe it's your mouse? or something else is grabbing mouse focus messages at the same time?04:53
LascivusThanks D9500 :-)04:53
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LascivusI thought about that, however 9.04 worked fine, this happened after upgrade04:53
twotenhey I'll tell you my problem, I installed 9.04 everything worked, then I installed 9.1004:55
twotenand the new 9.10 grub would load itself in an infinite loop and fill the screen with grub grub grub04:55
LascivusNow that sux04:55
twotenso I reinstalled 9.04 and did the upgrade from there, finally it's all working04:56
LascivusYeah, I did a clean install (same problem), then reinstalled 9.04 clean, upgraded, same problem, I've wrote it of to a driver issue04:57
d9500Lascivus, maybe try doing apt-cache search xorg | less | grep input and noting the ones that apply to your computer, for example, if you do not have a joystick or a tablet, do not write the "input-joystick" or "input-wacom" ones down, then do a reinstall of the relevant drivers?04:58
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d9500Lascivus, i pastebin'd the packages for you. http://pastebin.com/dd5ceb4f05:00
LascivusThat's what mine says also, thank you btw05:02
Lascivushttp://pastebin.com/m5aee46dd05:03
d9500Lascivus, actually, dpkg --get-selections | grep input would probably be better. that should just show the ones you have installed rather than the longer list.05:07
Lascivusd9500, http://pastebin.com/m36cedc1f does this tell me to install or it is installed?05:10
d9500Lascivus, install means it is installed. see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/show-the-list-of-installed-packages-on-ubuntu-or-debian/05:12
Lascivusthanks, d9500 :-)05:13
d9500cool site, by the way, if you've never heard of it. many of the linux tips are older, but since a lot of it's command line stuff, unless a particular command has been depreciated, many should still work05:14
hagabakaafter upgrading to karmic, the shutdown and reboot options in menu don't work any more. nothing happens when I click on them. any idea how to fix?05:16
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zeelothey guys, I have 2 wireless adapters, both giving me issues,netgear wg111v3 (connects but the connection is highly unstable, causing very slow browing and lots of buffering on videos), and a belkin wireless N adapter that shows up and finds the network but does not connect05:36
zeelotanyone know how I can get either one of these to work correctly?05:36
zeelotkubuntu 9.10 beta, I think it updated all the way05:37
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zeelotanyone? =(05:47
android06hola06:08
k4zeelot: type "dmesg" in the konsole06:19
k4zeelot: only if your not a beginner please06:19
zeeloteek06:20
zeelotconfusing06:20
k4kk, then close it06:20
k4:)06:20
zeelotlol06:20
k4yea if you cant read it you shounld read it :---)06:21
ryan-ccan i install kubuntu into my existing RAID1+LVM setup?06:21
johannes__hello ... can somebody help with my audio configuration? i use an external soundcard hercules mk 2 .. i have a problem with my sound in videos. dragon player is working, but all other players don't play any sound. xine, mplayer ...06:21
k4@ zeelot , there you can see if there are any issues when you try using your wireless06:23
k4zeelot: probably someone can help you then with more info06:24
chiquiHi all06:25
k4johannes__: try to configure phonon @ systemsettings for another audio device06:25
chiquii want to export my DISPLAY to another vtty06:26
chiquii know that i must modify DISPLAY variable06:26
chiquibut i do it06:26
chiquiand fail.06:26
chiquiPlease help.06:26
k4chiqui: x server : "export DISPLAY=mymachine.mynet.uidaho.edu:0.0"06:27
johannes__k4 .. can you explain a little?06:27
k4chiqui: you must enable access on the other xserver for clients to connect , try to type : "xhost +"06:28
johannes__k4 i have configured system settings: multimedia for the external soundcard .. amarok and dragon player are working06:28
k4johannes__: looks like the default device dragon player is using is blocking the device06:28
chiquilet me try06:28
k4johannes__: yea the other programm's don't usw phonon to output sound , so this is blocking the audio06:28
k4try to switch phonon to something different06:29
johannes__k4 how?06:29
k4johannes__: systemsettings->multimedia06:29
Julian__hi06:29
johannes__k4 oh, i see06:29
Julian__Lol, its work06:30
chiquiits not working06:30
chiquii want to06:31
johannes__k4 but then amarok won't work anymore, will it?06:31
k4johannes__: sorry i am guessing , i have the same problem sometimes06:31
johannes__k4 ok06:31
chiquisorry, when pressed xhost + in my konsole he said that he cant open the display :0.106:31
k4chiqui: :-)06:32
k4chiqui: am i right , you got 2 xserver (or computers) and want a programm to start on the other xserver(computer)06:32
k4chiqui: on the first computer do the export stuff, on the computer you want to connect to , do "xhost +"06:33
chiquiok06:33
k4chiqui:  then go to the computer where you did the export stuff , and start something in the same konsole06:33
k4chiqui:  like dolphin or ...06:34
k4chiqui: not by menu06:34
chiquinothing happened06:35
chiquihe says to me when i do xinit06:35
chiquithat someone is already using the x server06:35
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k4chiqui : if you want to start a second xserver on antoher display you must add a option in a xserver /gdm/kdm config file06:43
k4i think it's somewhere /etc/X11/...06:43
underdog7does anybody know of a website that allows you to post text (e.g. debugging text) and then refer people to an address so they can see what you've posted -- i used to have one of these sites, but i forget it now06:52
i_is_brokepastebin.com06:56
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underdog7is anyone familiar with wordpress?06:57
underdog7i_is_broke: thanks :)06:57
i_is_brokenp06:58
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underdog7oes anyone know of any free web hosting (nothing special/fancy) -- just enough for me to test and develop a wordpress web site?07:47
r00t_ninja000webhost.com07:49
Tm_Tpretty offtopic07:49
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Taggnostrhello08:40
Taggnostrwhen I check 'set data and time automatically' from the date & time window in the system settings and click on apply, it sets the correct date/time, but when I close the windows and open it again it's not checked anymore. Is there a way to keep it checked and/or to always have the right date/time?08:42
xh_hi! why can't i drag a widget to a panel? are widgets for the desktop only? what else can i drag to a panel except app launchers?08:44
xh_Taggnostr: if you want to sync the time automatically on boot, add this: to our /etc/rc.local: 'rdate -s time-a.nist.gov'08:49
Taggnostrthanks08:49
xh_Taggnostr: and if rdate is not installed then: sudo apt-get install rdate08:50
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xh_Taggnostr: ..and this is going to work even if xorg and kde fails to start.. :)08:51
TaggnostrI wonder why it doesn't keep that option checked though08:51
xh_Taggnostr: it is most likely some permission issue; or some 'upgrade-from-older-version' issue08:52
xh_Taggnostr: check for files in you home folder owned by root, just to be sure08:54
Taggnostrhow can I check the owner?08:54
xh_Taggnostr: cd <enter> find . -user root08:54
yamokidzu-itlo again08:55
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^wanhuubb-itis it simple to sitch from gnome to kde? does kde request less system requirements?08:55
^wanhuubb-it*switch08:56
Taggnostrxh_, no files with root user08:57
xh_Taggnostr: good! then it is something else;) did you upgrade kde?08:57
Taggnostryep, at some point I think I did it08:58
^wanhuubb-ithelp08:59
xh_Taggnostr: if it is because of this, then you could try temporarily renaming your ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 folders and restart xorg and see if that works; if it does then it is because of some old kde settings09:00
Taggnostrxh_, do I need to put 'sudo' too in the rc.local? from the terminal rdate doesn't work without it09:06
xh_Taggnostr: no, no need, it will be run as sudo anyway09:07
Taggnostrok09:07
Taggnostrok, I think I did it, thanks09:09
^wanhuubb-itis it simple to switch from gnome to kde? does kde request less system requirements?09:12
^wanhuubb-ithelp09:12
^wanhuubb-it^peter^09:19
^wanhuubb-itsalut 'onyx09:19
^wanhuubb-itlo [vali]09:20
^wanhuubb-itlo zorael09:20
^wanhuubb-itlo zeelot09:20
^wanhuubb-itlo yuriy09:20
soulsurferhey, i'm using kubuntu 9.10 and i installed cheese and kamoso to try to take off the "mirror" effect which I saw in skype, and now my webcam is appearing in black and white09:23
soulsurferany ideas on how i might change the settings of the webcam?09:23
^wanhuubb-ithelp09:29
^wanhuubb-itlo yuli09:29
^wanhuubb-itlo xh_09:29
ali_h09:30
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FloodBotK2ali_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:30
^wanhuubb-itlo ahox09:31
^wanhuubb-itlo amichair09:31
^wanhuubb-itlo Ash-Fox09:31
amichair^wanhuubb-it: have we met before?09:32
^wanhuubb-ityes09:32
Ash-FoxI don't think so.09:33
^wanhuubb-itI have lots of names ;-)09:33
^wanhuubb-itcan you help me?09:33
amichair!ask | ^wanhuubb-it09:33
ubottu^wanhuubb-it: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:33
^wanhuubb-itI already ASKED IT before...09:33
^wanhuubb-itbut if you want I RE-ask it09:34
amichair^wanhuubb-it: then I guess no one here at the moment knew the answer09:34
^wanhuubb-itis it simple to switch from gnome to kde? does kde request less system requirements?09:35
^wanhuubb-it3rd time I write this ;-)09:35
amichair^wanhuubb-it: sometimes you have to bee patient... there's no oracle here that knows all the answers :-)09:35
amichair^wanhuubb-it: (btw please don't ping every person on the list... that's quite impolite)09:36
^wanhuubb-itok09:39
^wanhuubb-itI'm TOO patient amichair ;-)09:39
^wanhuubb-itlo asobi09:40
amichair^wanhuubb-it: I don't know about resource consumption differences. I think if u install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages then they exist side by side and u can select which session to use in the login menu.09:40
^wanhuubb-itok09:40
^wanhuubb-itHOW?09:41
amichair^wanhuubb-it: using synaptic in ubuntu or kpackagekit in kubuntu, whichever u installed first09:42
amichairlook for them in the menus09:42
^wanhuubb-itwhat's the package?09:44
^wanhuubb-itamichair09:45
amichairubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde09:45
^wanhuubb-itso if I am on ubuntu-gnome, I have to get kubuntu-desktop?09:55
amichair^wanhuubb-it: yes09:55
^wanhuubb-itso is it the same of have kubuntu instead of ubuntu?09:55
amichairyes, they both have the same common base, and on top of that ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu has kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu has xubuntu-desktop, and the netbook editions have their own packages too09:56
^wanhuubb-itamichair : why wicd have to been removed?09:57
^wanhuubb-itisn't it kde-based?09:57
amichairI don't know, maybe it conflicts with knetworkmanager or something09:57
^wanhuubb-itI unistalled network man...09:58
amichairu can probably put it back later if u want09:58
^wanhuubb-itso kde-desktop re-install network manager?09:58
^wanhuubb-itreally don't understand10:00
^wanhuubb-itBecause Wicd does not use any GNOME dependencies, it can easily be used on GNOME, KDE, Xfce, Fluxbox, or any other window manager.[2]" from wikipedia10:00
amichaireach desktop comes with its own defaults, if u install kubuntu-desktop it will install its defaults. u can switch again later if u want.10:00
^wanhuubb-itbut can't it be installed without remove wicd?10:01
^wanhuubb-itcan't I unselect network manager from the list?10:02
amichairI don't know, u can try10:03
^wanhuubb-itit seems to be not possible10:03
^wanhuubb-itdon't want to re-install this damnit network manager!!!10:04
amichairsorry, I don't know any more about that.10:04
^wanhuubb-itdoes k3b install only kde-desktop without applications?10:24
tsimpsoninstalling k3b will only install the parts of KDE it needs, the KDE libraries10:25
^wanhuubb-itand kde-desktop?10:29
^wanhuubb-ithelp10:29
tsimpsonno, just the libraries10:30
ahoxHi, I installed the kde-webkit and now I would like to use it as a default, at least for some sites. Is this possible?10:32
^wanhuubb-itand how to swith from ubuntu to kubuntu without install network manager?10:32
^wanhuubb-ithelp10:32
^wanhuubb-itwagle10:33
^wanhuubb-itlo vorian10:33
^wanhuubb-itlo verendi10:33
ct529hi everybody. DO you know how to stream from a itune video repository under kubuntu (904)?10:33
^wanhuubb-itamichair10:34
tsimpsonahox: from konqueror, Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> text -> html -> Embedding (tab), move the webkit part to the top of the list10:35
ahox^wanhuubb-it: If you really do not want the knetworkmanager, just deinstall it afterwards. It's probably the easiest10:36
ahoxtsimpson, thanks10:37
seicherlbobhi! i habe a problem with a samba share not following symlinks. Setup: Samba server with public share. in that share, there is a symlink to another directory. I can natively access that link normal from a windows client as if it was a directory. From kubuntu, it is displayed as a link and thus not working. Samba share is set to "follow symlinks yes". the share is mounted with "//server/public       /mnt/public      cifs10:38
seicherlbobcredentials=.credentials,dir_mode=777,file_mode=777,iocharset=iso8859-15,nobrl        0       0"10:38
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^wanhuubb-itwhat are the diff from kdebase and kdebase-bin?10:51
^wanhuubb-ithelp10:51
Tm_T^wanhuubb-it: kdebase package containst all of kdebase (it's metapackage, pulling the others with it), including kdebase-bin10:52
^wanhuubb-itand desktop env?10:52
Tm_Tyes10:53
bigbrovar.10:54
^wanhuubb-itok thanks10:55
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tsimpson!webkitkde is <reply> To enable the WebKit KPart for Konqueror you must install the « webkitkde » package. To make WebKit the default for displaying web pages in Konqueror go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> text -> html -> Embedding (tab), and move the WebKit to the top of the list.11:32
ubottuI'll remember that, tsimpson11:32
kostahi11:38
kostaHi11:38
tsimpsonhello11:38
kostahelo11:39
kostawhat up11:39
tsimpsonwaiting for support questions11:39
kosta?11:39
tsimpsonthis is a support channel for #kubuntu, there is general chat in #kubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-offtopic (more active)11:40
amichairI got one: since the karmic upgrade my google toolbar in firefox seems non-functional (no quick-find buttons, no highlighting, no settings dialog, etc.). is this a known issue?11:40
kostaok11:41
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tsimpsonamichair: works here, make sure it's updated. I have version 3.1.20081127L11:42
amichairtsimpson: I have 5.0.20090122Lb2 it seems11:44
tsimpsonI installed it a while ago, guess google don't do auto-updates11:45
amichairtsimpson: haven't manually intervened since original install in intrepid, so I guess it climbed there itself11:45
^y_emkidzu-itlo again how use wireless with kde?11:47
tsimpsonwith network manager11:48
amichairtsimpson: there's also a constant annoying little empty-squre tooltip anywhere on the page the mouse rests11:48
tsimpsonamichair: I don't see that either11:48
amichairtsimpson: well I hope it gets sorted out with an update soon :-)11:49
tsimpsonamichair: looks like 6.1.20091007L is the latest google toolbar, from toolbar.google.com11:50
tsimpsonI'd say to remove the old version then install the new one, see if that fixes that issue11:50
amichairtsimpson: 'find updates' doesn't grab it. I'll try11:50
tsimpson"find updates" didn't for me, but from the website it has the new version11:51
^y_emkidzu-itI have wicd now...11:52
^y_emkidzu-itamichair11:52
^y_emkidzu-itit shows only wired network without wireless11:53
^y_emkidzu-ittsimson11:54
^y_emkidzu-ithelp11:54
dcorbin_workHow do I figure out which version gtk+ I have installed?11:55
llutzdcorbin_work: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-011:58
amichairdcorbin_work: in general 'apt-cache policy <package>' will show u the version of package11:58
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dcorbin_workI have a video problem.  Frequently, large windows do not repaint.  If I make them smaller, they do.  Over time, the problem becomes more severe and my windows get smaller and smaller.  Eventually, I have to reboot (as if video RAM is leaking).  It's an NVIDIA card.  I've tried two different versions of the NVIDIA drivers.  It seems to have shown up when I upgrade kbuntu (not Karmic, but the one before that), but I cannot swear to it.  1) Ho12:10
dcorbin_workw do I figure out of it's hardware or software. 2) Assuming software, how do I diagnosis it further.  In my mind, could be the driver, or X, or kde.12:10
dcorbin_workI do run dual monitors in TwinView mode.12:11
^y_emkidzu-itconnection problem wicd wireless help12:11
s-tonedSince KDE4 I can't find the possibility to save *.war. The html-settings under the Extra-menu have also gone. What do I have to do to get them back? (konq-plugins and konqueror-plugin-khtmlsettings are installed)12:20
s-tonedThe solution might be kdeaddons, but that's not installable in kubuntu 9.10. But, kdeaddons is still part of KDE4. The problem seems to be Ubuntu.12:22
tsimpsons-toned: kdeaddons is not part of KDE412:27
s-tonedtsimpson: in #kde they said so12:28
tsimpsons-toned: it was part of KDE3, but not 4. there is no "kdeaddons" component of KDE12:29
tsimpsons-toned: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.3.3/src/ <- no kdeaddons package12:30
amichairtsimpson: new googbar works fine, guess their upgrade path got screwed up somehow12:31
tsimpsonyeah, there's been a few "enhancements" since my version12:31
s-tonedtsimpson: thiago said so very firmly, but anyway, what can I do to get the html-settings in the extras-menu in konqueror back (and the saving as *.war)?12:32
tsimpsons-toned: the "HTML Settings" under Tools?12:35
s-tonedtsimpson: yes, might be "Tools" (here it's called Extra)12:36
tsimpsonwell I see the "Archive Web Page" entry under Tools here12:36
s-tonedtsimpson: here is only adblock, and timed reload of pages, how could I activate/install the  "Archive Web Page" (and proxy, javascript, ...) entries ?12:38
tsimpsons-toned: those should be part of the konq-plugins package12:39
s-tonedtsimpson: konq-plugins are installed (4.3.0)12:40
tsimpsonit says "Web Archiver : creates archives of websites" is a part of it, and I have that version12:41
tsimpsoncheck that you have /usr/share/kde4/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_webarchiver.desktop and /usr/lib/kde4/webarchiverplugin.so12:43
tsimpsonthose seem to be the needed parts12:43
s-tonedtsimpson: there is only /usr/lib/kde3/libwebarchiverplugin.so  (yes, no slash between lib, and web)  (/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/webarchiverplugin.desktop is there)12:47
tsimpsons-toned: that's the kde3 version, not the kde4 version12:49
tsimpsontry reinstalling the konq-plugins package (sudo apt-get --reinstall install konq-plugins)12:49
s-tonedtsimpson: you are right, it's from konq-plugins 3.5.10    BUT, apt-get says it's the latest and greatest, that's why I've never looked before. (Karmic Koala should have 4.3.0), hmm..12:53
tsimpsonkarmic does have 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu412:54
tsimpson!info konq-plugins12:54
ubottukonq-plugins (source: konq-plugins): plugins for Konqueror, the KDE file/web/doc browser. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 671 kB, installed size 2356 kB12:54
ngirardHi all. Using equivs-build I've built & installed a dummy package whose "provides" are beeing ignored by apt-get. Specifically, my texlive-dummy does provide, among others, tex-common ; and yet  apt-get install jadetex requires libosp5 openjade1.3 tex-common tipa to be installed... any thoughts ?12:57
tsimpsonngirard: best to ask in #ubuntu-motu they may have insight12:58
tsimpsonngirard: but, you probably want to provide, conflict and replace the packages13:00
s-tonedtsimpson: Sorry, I've already installed those two files. I looked at the wrong machine (via ssh), sorry.   But, it still doesn't work.13:03
tsimpsons-toned: I don't know why it wouldn't work then, it works fine here and I can't find any other packages regarding it13:05
s-tonedtsimpson: It has been upgraded several times, (since 7.10). Maybe it's time for a fresh re-install. Thank you very much.13:08
tsimpsonno problem, hope everything sorts itself out for you13:09
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dangerx89_ciao13:10
GreeneryAmarok is bugging me with the playlist error. Any idea why?13:12
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polycultureGreenery: is it playing at all? What's the issue13:17
Greenerypolyculture: it plays certain files and most of the time it shows a playlist error. No sound coming out.13:17
polycultureok, might be a different issue than the one i had13:18
polyculturei could play files at all13:18
polyculturein my case it helped to delete the .xine folder in your home directory13:19
polycultureanyway you might find out more by executing "amarok --debug" in konsole13:20
hisami'm facing probs configuring my wireless lan13:20
hisamplease help13:21
hisamneone der??13:22
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ikoniahisam: what's up ?13:23
SatanClaushey guys, I just migrated from Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 3.5) to 9.10 (KDE 4.3.2) and wonder if there's some way to migrate all the work I invested into my kopete contact list... e.g. many of my friends have several contacts, which I "subcontacted" and linked with the contacts from Kaddressbook. I also used the names from there. All this seems to be gone now (I have one "container" per subcontact). Any hints?13:24
ngirardHi tsimpson, thanks for your feedback and sorry for this late answer. I didn't know about #ubuntu-motu, i'll ask there. I didn't understand your next sentence ; could you please elaborate ? (you probably want to provide, conflict and replace the packages)13:25
tsimpsonngirard: as well as "Provides: <package>", you may also need "Conflicts: <package>" and "Replaces: <package>" to force apt to not try and install the packages13:26
tsimpsonSatanClaus: you may want to ask in #kde about that, I don't use kopete too much13:27
ngirardtsimpson: well, "Replaces" doesn't work. Trying Confilcts...13:31
tsimpsonngirard: you usually use "Replaces" and "Conflicts" together13:31
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zippyhow can low-graphic-mode-message on start-up be avoided?13:34
d9500zippy, what model of video card and which driver?13:35
ngirardtsimpson: So, I've compiled & installed a new texlive-dummy package which Provides, Conflicts and Replaces every possible tex-related packages I could find. And guess what apt-get install jadetex suggests ? To remove my dummy package in order to install the damn tex-related ones...13:35
zippyd9500 i use nvidia-driver for my pretty old card but its working with 3d13:37
zippyi found a workaround but its annoying13:38
d9500zippy, you mean the system boots to low-graphics mode yet 3d works?13:38
zippyyeah13:38
tsimpsonngirard: it should not try to install anything it conflicts13:38
d9500what workaround are you currently using?13:38
zippyi tried lots of the menu stuff nothing worked13:38
zippyi couldnt even get a shell13:39
zippyfinally google helped me find to use the esc and wait a little13:39
ngirardtsimpson: I might just ask #ubuntu-motu as you adviced me. On which server can I find this channel ?13:40
zippythen its booting into graphic13:40
tsimpsonngirard: on this server13:40
ngirardtsimpson: weird... doesn't seem to appear on the channel list...13:41
d9500zippy, which nvidia driver version? 96, 173, or 190? also, which specific card?13:41
tsimpsonngirard: the server list on freenode is huge, it's probably filtered in some way13:42
zippyi pinned the 173 for 5600-fx13:42
tsimpsonngirard: it's best to use '/msg alis list <term>', see '/msg alis help list' for more13:42
ngirardtsimpson: okay. Thanks very much for your time and assistance13:43
tsimpsonno problem13:43
zippyd9 GeForce FX 5600XT13:43
zippyd9500 GeForce FX 5600XT13:44
d9500zippy, that's the correct driver version. have you done a kernel upgrade recently?13:44
zippyyes13:44
zippy2.6.31-15-generic13:45
d9500zippy, how recenelty? did the driver stop working right after the upgrade?13:45
d9500recently*13:45
zippy2009-11-10 17:46 it was13:46
d9500zippy, ok, but did the system start only booting into low graphics mode after the upgrade?13:47
zippyd9500 you didnt get it its more serious13:47
zippylow graphics is not starting13:47
zippyjust nothing13:47
d9500zippy, no, i got that part, but you said you could hit esc and wait and low grpahics would.13:48
zippynot a shell no reconfigure no backup nothing works13:48
d9500would start*13:48
zippyafter esc i have nvidia up running with 3d13:49
zippylow graphic does not work13:49
d9500zippy, very odd. i've seen nvidia driver failures with the black screen, no terminal to fallback to, and i've seen a failure where low grahics mode is all that would load, but never seen one where the black screen will give way to working 3d. can you pastebin your xorg.conf and xorg.0.log?13:50
CupofDiceThinking of getting the comcast self-install kit. i have a windows box just in case, but I want to set it up with my linux box. any ideas on what I'll have to do?13:51
zippyd9500 i try13:52
zippyd9500 http://pastebin.com/m2f643ebe14:00
d9500zippy, dual monitors using xinerama? i'm probably not going to be able to help you then. no experience with that14:02
tommasohi, the wireless/ethernet connection manager doesn't work well, when I wanto to switch from one to another it's not able to connect anymore. are there better softwares to handle this situation?14:02
zippyd9500 http://pastebin.com/m6c1bc81714:03
zippyim not using that: 1 monitor14:03
zippymaybe i can disable it entirely14:03
zippyif that helps14:04
d9500zippy, your xorg.conf does seem needlessly complex for a single monitor configuration14:04
zippyso what can i discard?14:05
seraphimhello, sun-java plugin does not work with firefox on 9.10. anyone can help ?14:05
tommasoI'm on kubuntu 9.04 have you ever experienced problems with your connection manager?14:05
d9500i can paste an old one that i used once as a template.14:05
tommasoproblems like you want to swith from wireless to ethernet and it can't connect to ethernet?14:05
tommasoI have to restart the computer to get it wrking14:06
tommasoworking14:06
d9500zippy, i'll also paste a minimal one that lets the x server do most of the work by autoconfiguring. give me a minute to pastebin them, then try one and if that one doesn't work, then the other14:07
zippyd9500 ok give me some time to eat: im hungry ;-)14:07
d9500zippy, ok, i may have to leave before you get back, but if so, here's the simpler xorg.conf, which specifies some settings. http://pastebin.com/d6dc5503714:13
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BluesKajHowdy folks14:14
zippyd9500 thx i will try14:14
d9500zippy, here's the minimalist one as well, that lets the x server autoconfigure most settings. http://pastebin.com/d62a2bc2f14:16
oobei keep adding a widget to my panel by right clicking where i want it to go then adding it in the menu but it appears on the wrong side how do i specify where it goes14:22
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tsimpsonoobe: click the "cashew" icon in the bottom right and move the widget around the panel14:23
oobei dont see a cashew icon14:25
Tm_Tlocked widgets?14:25
oobeno14:25
Tm_Toobe: then at the right/bottom end of panel should be icon14:26
bob__hello14:27
bob__I can not share directory for samba on karmic14:28
bob__someone can help me please?14:28
oobewhen i right click on the quick access widget all i see is 3 options remove panel options and quick access settings14:28
tsimpsonoobe: not on the widget, on the far right of the panel14:29
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oobeok thanks guys14:35
zippyd9500 rebooting now - hope i manage to come back soon14:36
hisami have problems configuring wireless lan on my kubuntu 9.1014:37
hisamplease help14:37
Tm_Thisam: what kind of problem? and what kind of devices you have?14:38
BluesKajbob__, you don't share samba , you share directories or folders in windows using samba on your linux machine , but first you must set up sharing of those directories in windows14:38
hisami hv a dell inspiron14:38
hisamand have got wirless enabled14:39
BluesKajhisam, do you see the network manager icon in the panel ?14:39
hisamya i do14:39
RaiCossDoes anyone know how to fix the xserver 1.5.3 keyboard/mouse not getting recognized bug? I've tried AllowEmptyInput in 3 different ways but nothing works!14:40
hisamand enable wireless is ticked14:40
BluesKajhisam, have you configured it to find the router/modem IP address ?14:40
hisamnooo14:41
hisamhow do i do it??14:41
hisambut i can connect through wired lan14:41
hisamiwconfig shows "lo        no wireless extensions.14:42
hisameth0      no wireless extensions.14:42
hisampan0      no wireless extensions.14:42
hisam"14:42
FloodBotK2hisam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:42
hisamok sorry14:42
BluesKajhisam, iwconfig won't show anything when you are using eth014:43
BluesKajeth0=wired14:44
hisamohh ok14:44
hisamso now how do i configure ??14:45
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BluesKaj!info wicd | hisam14:46
ubottuhisam: wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2464 kB14:46
BluesKajhisam, I suggest you try wicd , it worked right away after installing on my laptop14:47
hisamok14:48
hisamso i will have to install iyt14:48
BluesKajhisam, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php14:50
hisamblueskaj, i did an apt-get14:50
hisambleskaj, it says no wireless network found14:53
hisambleskaj, should i disconnect eth014:53
hisambleskaj, to find wireless14:54
BluesKajhisam, I don't think wicd is in the repos14:54
hisamblueskaj, i already got it14:54
shockrateshi14:58
shockrateswhen i start kubuntu i first get a tty1 console, after i login. then login manager appears and then i login again to have a gui.14:59
shockrateshow do i fix it14:59
BluesKajok hisam , i didn't realize wicd is in the repos15:01
PaulieWalnutshi15:01
PaulieWalnutsi installed Karmic to a ext4 partition using unetbootin and the iso on drive C:. everything went fine and now i cant boot into it(it doesnt show up in grub menu when the pc starts). my HD setup is : sda1 windows boot part. sda2 drive c: sda3 ext4 for / sda4 swap. i tried chrooting in sda3 and attempted to reinstall grub15:01
PaulieWalnuts grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.15:01
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shockratesPaulieWalnuts: the answer to all your problems is here15:03
shockrateshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:03
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shockrateslook at chroot15:03
xvinei have  a internal sound card from intel15:03
BluesKaj!intelhda | xvine15:05
ubottuxvine: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto15:05
xvinethx15:05
PaulieWalnutsshockrates : followed the steps there but im stuck at15:09
PaulieWalnutsubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-setup -d /sda/boot/grub -m /sda/boot/grub/device.map  /dev/sda15:09
PaulieWalnutsgrub-setup: error: cannot stat /sda/boot/grub/core.img15:09
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, have tried just plain , sudo update-grub ?15:11
hisam_bleskaj, wicd says no wireless networks found15:12
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, inside chroot or outside?15:12
BluesKajdunno why ppl insist on chroot15:12
BluesKajoutside15:12
PaulieWalnuts:D15:12
BluesKajhisam_, reboot15:13
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub15:13
PaulieWalnutsgrub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /.15:13
zippy!seen d950015:14
hisam_blueskaj, i did15:14
ubottuI have no seen command15:14
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, you didn't make / active when partitioning , maybe15:14
PaulieWalnutsill make it now trough gparted15:14
PaulieWalnutsmaybe i forgot15:14
d9500zippy, i'm here15:14
zippyhi15:15
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, ill set the partition with the active flag trough gparted is it ok?15:15
d9500hi. any luck with either config file?15:15
zippyd9500 i had no live-cd with ext4 :(15:15
BluesKajGParted live cd  is the one to use15:15
zippyso i had to change configs with ssh15:15
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, cfdisk from the livecd then?15:15
PaulieWalnutsor fdisk15:16
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, yeah, that should work , but no need to cfdisk15:16
BluesKajo4r fdisk15:16
zippybut its still the same neither of your xorg.confs worked for me15:16
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, its ok then with gparted from 9.10 live ?15:16
BluesKajgparted live cd , not 9.10 live15:17
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PaulieWalnutsi dont have that15:17
PaulieWalnutsill set it active with fdisk15:17
PaulieWalnutsfrom livec15:17
PaulieWalnutslivecd15:17
BluesKajwell, you can burn it15:17
d9500zippy, did you install from the repos or using the .run file from nvidia's website?15:17
PaulieWalnutsi dont have a burner, why did you think i used unetbootin to install karmic ? :D15:17
hisam_blueskaj, i hv already rebooted15:18
hisam_bleskaj, still says the same15:18
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zippyd9500 i updated everything from 9.04 over the net15:18
PaulieWalnutsfuck15:18
PaulieWalnutsi cant open the drive with fdisk/cfdisk15:19
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, sorry i wasn't aware15:19
PaulieWalnutsmaybe cause its mounted15:19
d9500zippy, bleh. my one experience with updating from previous releases does not make me think updating is superior to a clean install15:19
zippyd9500 the most annoying is not to have a working shell except ssh15:19
BluesKajuse gparted on a stick then15:19
PaulieWalnutsnp just help me solve this thing15:19
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, no stick available either.. i need to make this partition active trough other means..15:20
zippybut its formatted to ext4 everything is new15:20
PaulieWalnutswhy doesnt gparted from livecd work well for that?15:20
BluesKajhisam_, are you trying to open wicd at all or are youjust expecting it to autoconnect15:20
hisam_blueskaj, i opened it15:21
d9500zippy, i thought default process for an upgrade didn't chnage existing ext3 filesystems from 9.04 to ext4?15:21
hisam_only connects to the wired network15:21
hisam_blueskaj, no wireless networks found15:21
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, gparted has it's own live cd , so that's what i recommended , or put the live cd on a bootable usb stick if you want15:22
PaulieWalnutsi dont have a stick, just told ya15:22
PaulieWalnutsatm im in a livecd mode15:22
PaulieWalnutsusing unetbootin15:22
BluesKajhisam_, you may need to reinstall the driver for your wifi card15:22
zippyd9500 i think i could choose15:23
hisam_blueskaj, wifi came built in wit my laptop15:23
PaulieWalnutsthe only solution would be using gparted livecd with unetbootin and booting its iso from drive C: to modify the partition and bootloader configuration. but can i use xchat-gnome then ?15:23
PaulieWalnutsor any IRC program15:24
PaulieWalnutsfrom gparted live cd15:24
d9500zippy, see if you can at least get a working gui (with terminal emulator) by using the minimal xorg.conf, but removing all but one line in device section. Driver = "vesa"15:24
d9500i can't help much on why the driver didn't work, i only know that the time that that happened i ended up reinstalling, but maybe someone else can provide better help if you can get a gui or a TTY.15:25
zippyd9500 no thx im fine pressing esc atm15:25
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, well you could try , it should work ..no xchat I'm afraid15:25
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, ill just use gparted from the current livecd15:26
YosafatGUYS15:26
PaulieWalnutsits just setting a partitino active, should handle that well15:26
BluesKajhisam_, linux driver for wifi15:26
Yosafatis wine the latest15:26
Yosafatavailable for us?15:26
zippyd9500 there is a bug reported on that so i hope it will be fixed in the near future15:26
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Nanugso15:28
NanugNON-TROLLS15:28
Nanughow do i get the latest wine15:28
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Jalamaihe?15:28
BluesKaj!winehq15:29
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:29
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, checked gparted. sda3 (Ext4 / ) is set to bootable15:29
PaulieWalnutsbefore i did anything15:29
Jalamaihgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr15:29
frantaHi there! What is the proper way of installing eclipse on 9.10? I have tryed installing it from repository, but after that it didn't have any available software site set up which normal eclipse downloaded from eclipse.org does...15:29
d9500zippy, you're right, could be just a driver or xorg bug. one last thing that might work would be to try to override monitor detection.15:29
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, so sda3 is already active15:29
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, and you installed grub2 ?15:29
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, i just used live install from the live cd and told it to install grub to /dev/sda15:29
PaulieWalnutsand now no menu entries at boot15:30
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, well ,i would have installed grub to / , but that's the simpl e way I guess15:30
zippyd9500 how is that done?15:31
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, just wanted it in mbr, and i got it in mbr. but only shows 2 options. Memory Test and Windows 7(loader)15:31
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, you can add windows chainloader in grub.cfg later15:32
PaulieWalnutsyeah i know15:32
PaulieWalnutsbut what to do now?15:32
yoyo!virtualizers15:32
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications15:32
yoyo!kqemu15:33
ubottukqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu15:33
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, mbr is usually installed over grub if i remember correctly15:33
d9500zippy, http://pastebin.com/d48000815  i pulled the instructions from a different distro's wiki but it should be the same for *buntu. Doubt it will work, but if the driver is taking an inordinately long amount of time to detect the monitor and thereby causing an inactive screen then it's worth a try.15:33
BluesKajoops I mean grub is usually installed over mbr15:34
PaulieWalnutsBluesKaj, grub can either reside on mbr or at the begining of a partition right?15:34
alexander_i have this problem on ubuntu 9.10: flashing screen google-earth what should i do?15:34
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, mbr usually resides under grub afaik in first 512 bits or some such15:35
PaulieWalnutsok.15:35
PaulieWalnutsnow15:35
PaulieWalnutshow the fck do i boot this thing ? :d15:35
PaulieWalnutsits already installed15:36
PaulieWalnutsits only one partition for / and one for swap15:36
BluesKajPaulieWalnuts, I don't want to put too fine a point on it , because I'm not entirely sure15:36
PaulieWalnutsdamn15:36
DeeTahmy kubuntu netbook install says it can't mount /cow. how to check why?15:37
hisam_blueskaj, but wen i press on wifi button on my keyboard, some movement happens on d taskbar15:38
DeeTah:/15:38
BluesKajd9500, what nvidia card are you guys discussing ?15:38
hisam_blueskaj, earlier wit knetwork manager wen i pressed d wifi button the enable wireless thing became active15:39
d9500BluesKaj,  geforce fx 5600xt15:39
hisam_blueskaj, still doess that mean ders a prob wit d driver15:39
BluesKajhisam_, looks like you need to find the linux drivber for your wifi card15:39
hisam_blueskaj, will installing wifi-radar help ??15:42
BluesKajinstalling the right linux wifidriver will help , hisam_15:43
DeeTahhttp://www.nopaste.pl/hkz15:45
DeeTahthat's what's in casper.log15:46
DeeTahany ideas what got screwed?15:46
BluesKajd9500, remove whatever driver being used and try this, it will install the right driver for the geforce fx 5600xt:  http://www.pastebin.ca/1673588 ,make sure you stop X , as per instructions15:46
d9500BluesKaj, that's the same method (or similar, i used nvidia's .run file) to get my nvidia card working in ubuntu. not sure if zippy is still here though. you might want to send the same to him15:48
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BluesKajok d9500 , guess he left , but it's important that ppl realize installing graphics drivers on top of each other and while X is running doesn't work.15:50
d9500BluesKaj, i've ran into the same issue trying to explain why you can't load guest extensions in vbox for a *nix machine without dropping to VT, since it installs an X driver and reconfigures xorg.conf.15:51
d9500dropping to VT and killing the X server*15:52
BluesKajyeah, well im not a fan of virtual OS's anyway , still prefer the inconvenience of a dual boot :)15:53
d9500BluesKaj, yeah, but how do you help someone who's running a *buntu when you're not, and your distro doesn't have exactly the same configuration files and structure, without booting a vm? i find them handy for that15:54
BluesKajd9500, what are you running as your main OS ?15:56
d9500BluesKaj, arch at the moment. talk about culture shock, coming from ubuntu to that one.15:56
BluesKajdunno arch, wouldn't install on my HW15:57
d9500BluesKaj, it runs faster than ubuntu and most of the config can be done from a single file. but one had best be prepared to spend a lot of time at the command line. since there's no default UI, almost all instructions are terminal only15:59
BluesKajon what distro is it based ?16:00
d9500BluesKaj, it's not really based on anything. it uses tar.gz as the package format, kind of like slackware's format but not exactly the same, has a ports system not unlike bsd or gentoo, but is binary based, meaning you don't have to compile unless you want to, or need a package not in the stock repos. the configuration files are largely combined into one file, rc.conf. similar to how freebsd does it, i think.16:02
d9500BluesKaj, and there's not much of a default install other than the kernel, the gnu tools, and the command line package manager. you build it from the ground up by adding packages and editing config files.16:04
d9500it's a pain to install but once installed, fairly easy to configure if you know your way around the various config files.16:05
d9500(which i don't..still learning though)16:05
BluesKajd9500, sounds kinda "purist " if you catch my drift :)16:07
PaulieWalnutsHey guys.I installed karmic trough unetbootin to a hd partition by booting the iso on drive C: i have sda1 and sda2 windows partitions. sda3 is / ext4 and sda4 is swap.Install went fine. i installed grub to sda, i have it in mbr. now when the pc boots i cant see ubuntu in the list only Memory Test and Windows 7(loader). tried fixing grub with chroot by following documentation on ubuntu website. no use, i still cant boot my install. h16:07
PaulieWalnuts elp pls!16:07
d9500BluesKaj, it's not one i'd recommend as a first distro. but if the idea of a fast, custom built, highly modular distro is appealing to someone, then then should give it a try.16:09
BluesKajd9500, I learned with knoppix, slackware, debian , sue , fedora , mandriva etc but finally settled on kubuntu16:10
d9500BluesKaj, why kubuntu? i've heard several kde fans say that ubuntu's kde implementation isn't as good as opensuse's or mandriva's, for example. in all fairness, the last time i tried it was using kde 4.1, i think it was, so i'm not one to say one way or the other.16:12
BluesKajd9500, i had a lot of problems with yum and yast repos on suse and fedora, and the debian repository setup to me is much more stable and easier to configure for personal apps etc16:16
BluesKajd9500, I'm running kde4.3.3  without any problems , so kde on ubuntu is a no brainer16:17
d9500BluesKaj, yeah, and it's hard to beat apt for dependency resolution. is it really true that slackware doesn't have any automatic dependency checking?16:17
d9500or didn't when you used it?16:17
BluesKaji don't recall16:18
BluesKajused it for a only short time maybe a month , 6- or 7 yrs ago16:18
BluesKaj well d9500  time for my daily constitution (walk)...bb later16:18
d9500ok, later.16:19
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PaulieWalnutsguys16:29
PaulieWalnutswheres the karmic kernel stored16:29
PaulieWalnutsin the fs16:29
Torchin karmic i don't get debug output in the shell from kde apps. i turned on all debug areas in kdebugdialog, but that didn't solve that. what else am i missing?16:31
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Torchhmm. "running an app with kdesudo" is apparently another answer... this is not helping.16:42
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Torchah, turning on all debug areas for root finally fixes that as well.16:44
Torchthanks all for your help ;-)16:44
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Christopherja der Felix_ ist ja auch da ^^17:16
Felix_:P17:16
Christopherhmm, wo steckt xaver?17:16
genii!de17:16
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.17:16
Christopherok, understood :P17:17
Felix_^^17:17
Felix_:P17:18
ViperTechda ;)17:18
ViperTechhi all17:19
Christopher320 Users, but no one ist active? :P17:20
Felix_:D17:20
BluesKaj!ask | Christopher17:21
ubottuChristopher: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:21
tsimpsonrestart FloodBotK317:22
tsimpsongerr17:22
Christopher:D17:23
morenohola17:32
roKB!news17:42
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yamokidzu-itlo again17:44
yamokidzu-ithow re-configure kde enviroment setting?17:44
yamokidzu-itI mean the first window that appears at the first start-up17:45
yamokidzu-ithelp17:45
tsimpsonuse system settings17:45
tsimpsoneverything is in there17:45
yamokidzu-itbut I don't know what change!17:46
yamokidzu-ittsimpson : I mean re-configure the scrolling bar17:47
tsimpsonlook around17:47
mmhgwell I"m stumped....trying to install 9.10 on a 64 bit system with an Nvidia 9800 vid card - can't seem to get the graphical installer to come up.  It just hangs on a black screen although I can access the other tty consoles (f1-f6).  Any ideas how I can get the install to work?17:51
mmhgtried booting into "try before you buy" mode - same error.  No dice on safe graphics mode or with fb=false either17:51
yamokidzu-ithelp !17:52
yamokidzu-ithow reconfigure the scrolling bar of system performance that appeared in the window during the first start-up of kubuntu?17:54
yamokidzu-itlo amichair17:54
yamokidzu-itlo ahox17:55
yamokidzu-itlo Ash-Fox17:56
yamokidzu-itlo asobi17:56
yamokidzu-itlo [vali]17:57
tsimpsonyamokidzu-it: stop that17:57
yamokidzu-ithello?17:58
yamokidzu-itnobody talking to me17:58
amichairyamokidzu-it: we asked you nicely to stop that before, and even tried to help. please stop that.17:58
yamokidzu-itI simply said "hello"17:59
yamokidzu-itis it so much offensive???17:59
tsimpsonrandomly highlighting people is quite rude, don't do it17:59
yamokidzu-itI don't highlight18:00
yamokidzu-it:D18:00
tsimpsonwhen you mention peoples nicks, you do18:00
amichairyamokidzu-it: if someone knows the answer to your question, they'll answer.18:00
tsimpson!patience18:00
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience18:00
yamokidzu-itamichair !patience18:00
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yamokidzu-itXD18:01
tsimpsonlast warning to stop that18:01
yamokidzu-itbar tsimpson XD18:02
tsimpsonI'll consider removing that later18:02
Jonathan__Hi everyone.18:03
loaduslo18:03
Jonathan__today i have a simple question.  In firefox, if i download say a .torrent file, the little download window has a context menu containing "open containing folder."  Once selected this displays the launch application dialog, how do i select dolphin?18:07
tsimpsonJonathan__: try /usr/bin/dolphin18:08
Jonathan__thats the one... thanks man18:09
tsimpsonno problem18:10
loadusWhere was the kubuntu developer channel? Was it kubuntu-dev or something similar?18:10
tsimpson#kubuntu-devel18:10
loaduscheers18:11
Jonathan__one more question.  In Ktorrent, i see there is an option for ipfilter.  Where do i get the required file18:12
tsimpsonJonathan__: where do you see the ipfilter option?18:15
Jonathan__well i selected the IP Filter plugin, and an IPFilter option has appeared in the file menu18:15
r0nyok18:15
loadusthere was one forum message dated Jan 12th 2009 that says: http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/splist.zip18:16
loadusdon't know if it works18:16
tsimpsonthat's the default18:16
loadusah, it's only a placeholder18:16
loadusempty zip18:17
loadusthere's a 2.1MB splist @ http://blocklist.googlepages.com/splist.zip18:18
loadusI'd suspect that's it's a bit old though18:18
tsimpsonLast-Modified: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:17:22 GMT18:19
loaduslol .. a "bit"18:19
Jonathan__:) so no one bothers with IP filter?18:19
loadusno-one's actively maintaining a list18:20
loadusor at least it seems so18:20
Jonathan__but none of you guys use an ipfilter?18:21
loadusnot me18:21
Jonathan__nah i couldnt be assed with it either18:23
rethushi there, what is better in kubuntu than in suse ? Why should i change?18:33
rethusmhh, thats pretty much arguments... i didn't know which of all of them is the best :p18:37
loadusTry it out and see what works for you and what doesn't. :)18:37
loadusCan't say for myself - haven't tried suse18:38
Lain_#jeuxlinux.fr18:38
rethusloadus: but aren't there some importent features which make kubuntu better than suse?18:39
Tm_Trethus: Kubuntu has always newest KDE one way or another18:40
yofelwell, the main differences are going to be the underlying system since both use kde18:40
Tm_Talso it's much more closer to "vanilla" KDE than opensuse equivalent18:41
yofelthere would be the different package system (DPKG - RPM)18:41
|moe|rethus: upstart is something suse doesn't have18:41
loadusrethus: Well, for me it was important to have a similar UI to windows, so I could find my way around.18:41
|moe|rethus: bus suse has a very fine kde-integration of firefox and openoffice. that's what i am missing here on kubuntu18:42
rethusTm_T: sounds good18:42
Tm_Trethus: but in my mind biggest difference is Ubuntu community, there's no other like ours18:43
rethusTm_T: whats with config-tools for firewall and so on... suse has yast... whats on kubuntu18:47
Tm_T!firewall18:47
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist18:47
Tm_Trethus: in general, users doesn't need to fiddle with firewall, although good tool for that is always good18:48
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aivallihi18:58
UbuntuTreehi18:58
aivalliI installed 'kde4' over a standard ubuntu installation18:59
aivallidesktop I mean18:59
UbuntuTreeHaving issues?18:59
aivallimy network manager is not working fine18:59
UbuntuTreeWhat is the error18:59
aivalliI read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/35651719:00
UbuntuTreeTaking a look19:00
aivalliI know that article deals with ARM while I am  on intel - I tried the ideas19:00
aivalliso I did a lahal19:00
aivallithe output shows up as my mac address and not the manufacturer's name19:01
aivalliand the ethernet card that I use is the second one not the first as it has a  driver issue19:01
aivallithe knetworkmanager just shows a 'red cross'19:02
UbuntuTreecan you have a log file I can take a look? or the /etc/network/interfaces file?19:02
aivallithat is the 'error'19:02
aivalliok so what logs you want syslog or messages ?19:03
UbuntuTreeI would go with the syslog19:03
UbuntuTreeAre you trying to  use static IP or DHCP?19:05
aivallilshal is here http://pastebin.com/d54eed76219:05
aivalliDHCP19:05
UbuntuTreeJust a sec19:05
aivallioh and I *should* mention that my network does absolutely fine ! it is only the network manager part that is broken19:06
aivalliI just saw syslog - it has no references to anything to do with network - if you still want to see I will upload it19:08
aivalliUbuntuTree: ?19:09
loaduspatience ;)19:09
aivalliokai ! :-)19:09
UbuntuTreeStill here, your file is very long, I am going through it19:10
aivallialso just to mention I am on Hardy - dist-upgrade not an option right now19:12
UbuntuTreek19:12
loadusaivalli: what version of the manager are you using? (just curious)19:14
aivallichecking19:16
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aivalli0.6.6.0ubuntu5.8.04.2 is hte version number as reported by adept_manager19:18
UbuntuTreeaivalli are you using IPv6 or IPv4?19:18
aivalliipV419:18
aivalliBRB a few mins19:19
UbuntuTreek19:19
aivalliBack19:36
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aivalli:( ubuntutree left - while I was away!19:37
nadohi19:42
nadoany idea why kopete won't sort my contact list, no matter which setting (name, status, manually) i choose?19:42
kadobani'm having problems with sound in 9.10.  it seems to work fine in KDE applications (amarok), but not in GTK applications (rhythmbox, flash plugin of firefox).  any ideas what could cause that or how to fix?19:43
kadobanin GTK apps, i hear a "pop" kind of, then nothing19:43
nadonobody?19:44
loadusaivalli: check that you have the latest manager, I'm seeing that I have 0.8 installed, but I'm not sure if I'm reading the version numbers correctly + if I have the same manager as you.19:46
aivalliok looking to see how I can go about doing it19:47
anoneemousehello. I am installing ubuntu from a flash drive and it got stuck at configuring apt... so i clicked skipped and then it said installer crashed19:49
loadusnado: not sure what's causing it not to work at your end, working fine here19:49
anoneemousedoes this mean kubuntu is installed or is it a messed up install now19:49
nadoloadus: it worked for me, too. but at some point, for some reason, it stopped...19:50
loadusanoneemouse: if it boots and works, it's installed - if it doesn't boot, it's probably messed up a bit19:51
anoneemousewhat im wondering is whether the installer is finished at that point19:51
anoneemouseim on the flash drive version now19:51
anoneemousethink i should try it?19:51
loadusgo ahead, it won't blow up your computer or anything .. I think.19:51
anoneemouseok19:52
anoneemousebrb.... i hope19:52
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kadobanokay, i notice that when i try to "Test" the PulseAudio device sound in System Settings -> Multimedia, it gives the same pop and doesn't work, but the highest device works fine (HDA NVidia (ALC1200 Analog))19:53
kadobanso are GTK apps using PulseAudio or whatever?  can i just get rid of that and have them use something else instead?19:54
loaduskadoban: move the working device to the highest in the list (on all pages)19:54
kadobanloadus: it is19:54
kadobanloadus: in case you missed my first message a few minutes back, sound works fine in KDE/Qt apps, but not in GTK19:55
loadushave you searched from the forums? I remember stumbling on lot of threads about audio issues on Intel (and other) HD audio systems19:55
loadusyeh, I had the same problem with my Terratec card19:55
loadusit's now at the point where the sound doesn't work on Dragon player / Amarok but works on everything else19:56
kadobanloadus: hmm, i searched a bit but nothing looked promising.   oh, do you happen to recall at all what you did to fix it?  the weird thing is that it's worked before, but i reset my computer a few days back and now it doens't...19:56
kadobanah19:56
loadusI remember uninstalling everything pulseaudio related and that fixed a lot of other issues (WINE didn't have sound etc), but I wouldn't recommend that19:57
loadusit worked on MY card, it might not work on your card + it might fubar your system19:57
kadobani see.  well, i'll try that if i don't find something else i guess19:57
kadobanstupid sound problems...never did understand completely how sound works in linux, not sure anyone else does either19:58
loaduswell, I think the biggest issue is the hardware manufacturers who keep a tight lid on how their chips are supposed to work19:59
kadobanya, doesn't help19:59
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anoneemousehello again... im back in my old installation... i mounted the drive the new installation created and everything is there20:02
anoneemousebut i couldnt boot into it20:02
anoneemouseso i assume it never installed the boot loader20:02
loadus you're installing from a USB memorystick, right?20:03
miglohello, I've successfully added a symbol to the taskbar but would also have one to easily shutdown the pc. is this somehow possible?20:07
kadobanam i correct in thinking that gtk apps will use PulseAudio and KDE apps don't?  i've been googling for a while but nobody even says.  then my problem would just be getting pulseaudio working, or tricking apps into not using it somehow20:07
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loaduskadoban: on my card each program opens a free hardware channel to use (my card uses some twisted form of ASIO to manage outputs)20:09
loadusit might be that it just picks an output that's muted on the mixer / is not mapped for output20:09
kadobanloadus: i thought that both kde and gnome had sound servers that mediated that at this point? no?20:10
loaduspulseaudio does that now, but at least on my card that didn't work, since the Aureon Space card changes it's sampling rate according to the source playing20:10
loadus so if I listened to some youtube video and played an mp3 after it, the mp3 would be silent20:11
kadobanloadus: so pulseaudio is used in kde as well, for qt apps?20:11
loadusI think so, I'm not that knowledgeable about pulseaudio's inner workings20:12
Guest13906hello everybody... sorry, but 2nite if my 1st time on mirc... how can I change my nickname? is /nick new_nick?20:12
loaduswow that was a hard word to spell20:12
loadusGuest13906: hello, try it out, and try the settings of the IRC client you are using20:13
m4rtinGuest13906: yep /nick new_nick20:13
loadus(I'm an IRC n00b myself, can't help much on the commands)20:13
Guest13906ok, cheers20:13
m4rtinkadoban: I use pulseaudio under KDE and it worked fine in karmic immediately after install20:14
loaduskadoban: I destroyed my audio, when I upgraded from 9.04 --> 9.10. Then did a clean install and pulseaudio worked on the liveCD, but didn't' work after install...20:15
kadobanloadus: i see.  i also upgraded from 9.0420:16
volodyain 9.10, can I control the name of directory under /media that is created for USB drive?20:16
kadobanm4rtin: any ideas what to check if it doesn't work?  it appears to be basically completely broken for me20:16
volodyain 8.04, it was customizable fore sure20:16
kadobangreat, now after changing nothing it works.  this is going to be fun to figure out20:18
loaduskadoban: patience, on my card it takes a few seconds to change settings20:19
loaduskadoban: and check if your programs are using custom outputs in their settings/preferences20:20
loadusjust in case20:20
loadusvolodya: the mount stuff is probably done in fstab20:21
kadobanloadus: alright, thanks.  i guess i'll have to wait till next reboot...can't get it to break now20:21
volodyaloadus: for removable drives?20:22
loadusvolodya: but it's correct, there's no UI for the same config options that were in KDE320:22
volodyaoh, boo.20:22
loadus aye20:22
rakuenHi! My kubuntu doesn't remember my screen settings, so every time I start my OS I must redo them. The annoying is that my screen mode isn't listed by default, so I must --addnew and --addmode with xrandr every time. How can I set this permantent? Thanks20:22
IulianISIHi20:23
IulianISII have a laptop DELL Inspiron 6400 with a ATI X1400 video card.20:23
IulianISII've tried different approaches described on several forums but nothing is working properly. Now i have installed on my laptop the Radeon driver and i have some graphical acceleration but is working slow and the resolution is stucked at 1024x768.20:23
IulianISII booted from the CD loads and everything worked fine and the ATI graphics acceleration worked really well.20:23
IulianISIHow can i make it work like that on my installed version?20:23
FloodBotK3IulianISI: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:23
loadusrakuen: what videocard are you using?20:24
rakuenloadus: Intel GMA 95020:25
volodyaloadus: dancing around with e2label did work, fwiw20:28
loadusvolodya: I'm reading a lot of problems with GMA 500, but haven't found stuff for 950 .. have you edited your xorg.conf [warning on that, edit only, when you know what you are doing] to force your fav resolution?20:29
rakuenloadus: where do I find xorg.conf? (it's not located in /etc/X11/)20:30
loadusrakuen: lol wut20:31
rakuenI am almost sure, I'll check again20:31
volodyaloadus: was that question actually for me, or for rakuen? I have 945, and the resolution is detected fine.20:31
rakuenyeah, it's not there. I searched for it when I first had this problem.20:32
volodyaalthough kdm->kde resolution switch is ugly20:32
loadusrakuen: well my knowledge ends right there - X should have at least some default xorg.conf - is there anything xorg related, ie. xorg.conf.backup?20:32
rakuenvolodya: my resolution is detected fine too, but since the screen mode I want to use isn't listed by default, it doesn't work.20:32
loaduslol, getting mixed up here, sry for that20:32
volodyarakuen: do you want to use a mode that monitor does not announce?20:33
rakuenvolodya: yes. I do this via xrandr, but when I restart the computer, the mode has dissappeard20:33
rakuenloadus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/320270/20:34
loadusvolodya: yeh, sorry, my question was for rakuen :P20:34
wdslbrfehi, how to start a openvpn session using kde networkmanager?20:34
rakuenloadus: I reinstalled my linux yesterday, used the new download from kubuntus homepade (9.10)20:35
loadusrakuen: that X----> /usr/bin/Xorg might mean that your xorg.conf can be found there? Not sure though, someone wiser on X stuff might help better.20:36
rakuenbash: cd: /usr/bin/Xorg: Not a directory, but there is a /usr/bin/X11 (with a load of files)20:37
AlexZionhi everyone, I have audio problem in Kubuntu Karmic , after the login sound ,it doesn't play any other audio ...20:37
rakuen"/usr/bin/Xorg" may be a binary file.  See it anyway?20:38
loadusrakuen: probably no, xorg.conf is the thing that you most likely need20:39
loadussearch?20:39
rakuenI don't know how to search files :'C20:39
loadusrakuen: find command, if I remember correctly :D - but you can fire up dolphin (the file manager) and search using that20:40
loadusrakuen: I meant "find" -command20:41
rakuenit's searching20:42
rakuenloadus: find | grep xorg.conf gives me a single output: ./usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz20:43
loadusthat's the help manual20:43
rakuenI don't seem to have a xorg.conf file? I'll read the manual20:44
loadussomething's had your xorg.conf for lunch20:44
rakuensorry, how do I read the manual?20:44
loadusmust've been a tasty burger20:44
loadusman <topic>20:44
rakuenloadus: "Kubuntu 9.10 uses xorg 1.6.3 which does not need a config file by default." from pythian.com20:45
rakuenone thing is for sure, I do not know how to creat a new xorg.conf file, it would be alot easier to modify one.20:46
Hatlhi! is it possible to change the initial view of aptitude to "New Flat Package List"?20:51
kristinahi, if suse can fit firefox on the kde cd, why can't kubuntu? :)20:55
rstob911i have found this time around that kubuntu must finally have some good devs cause i was able to install and configure with minimal effort nice job guys21:00
Tm_Trstob911: good to hear all went fine, and yes we have good developers, always had21:01
rstob911this is the real first time i have found kde4 to accually work right21:02
Scuniziloadus: rakuen xorg.conf doesn't exist anymore.. unless there is something drastically different in kubuntu vs ubuntu.. it's now handled by xrandr21:03
rstob911no broken packages this time around that is great21:03
rakuenloadus: I found all my answers at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions, volodya, I don't know what problem you had (if any) but maybe this will help you.21:03
loadusScunizi: That's good to know - might help on some issues I've had myself on my card, thx21:03
Scuniziloadus: np.. just when a lot of us are getting use to manually modifing xorg.conf it disappears.. xrandr looks to be "easier" but you have to find the docs to use it..21:04
rakuenconfigfiles for screens is found here: ~/.xprofile (executed in late startup) and /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup for pre-startup21:05
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KentukyNI've been running mint on my laptop for a while now and want to try out kubuntu so I installed it to dual boot. Is there a way I can access my mint files from kubuntu without having to make a new partition to put them in?21:11
mfraz74how have you set up mint?21:12
KentukyNdefault all the way21:13
mfraz74how many partitions?21:13
KentukyNone for kubuntu, one for xp, one for mint, and one swap21:13
KentukyNI remember being able to just go up my file tree with a previous machine, but it doesn't seem to want to mount 'filesystem' when I go through dolphin21:14
mfraz74if the user on kubuntu and mint have the same id, you should be able to access them by mounting the mint partition21:15
KentukyNokay. Looks like I was just looking in the kubuntu root folder instead of my whole hd.21:16
KentukyNworking now, thanks21:16
puffAnyone home?  Can we gracefully remove the KDE stuff from a box and revert back to using gnome?21:20
maco!puregnome | puff21:21
ubottupuff: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal21:21
puffIt appaers that kdm and gdm are fighting and messing up xdmcp in the process.21:21
puffmaco:  Thanks.21:21
maconp21:21
puffWait, that removes all !KDE packageS?21:22
macoaye21:22
puffIn programming, ! is normally a negator.21:22
macoshould21:22
macosince ahhh21:22
macono no thats for the bot21:22
maco!KDE21:22
FloodBotK3maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:22
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde421:22
puffOkay :-)".21:22
puffThanks again.21:23
maconp21:23
macothat ! just tells you teh bot has a factoid for it21:23
puffGotcher.21:24
puffLemme see, there should be some way to check if he's installed anything else that depends on the kde libs.21:25
puffIf he has other KDE-dependent apps that he needs to keep, is there anything he can do other than removing kde and the dependent apps, and then reinstalling the dependent apps?21:26
mikodoes anyone know how to use ssh on sidekick 2008 to work on ubuntu21:27
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Luggagehey all, I got a collection of files with an illegal character in the filename (é, displayed as ?) Ie been renaming then using find -inum <number> -exec mv newfilename {} \;  which works fine just it's a lot of files (200) and im not feeling like spending the rest of my evening renaming in the console. anyoen got a better, perhaps semi automated solution?21:34
LuggageI've* them* anyone*21:35
llutzLuggage: maybe convmv will be helpful21:36
Luggageconvmv ok looking for more info on it, thanks :)21:36
duffydhi, I'm using a sony vaio laptop with a 802.11abgn/Intel/HMC_1x2 wireless nic and can't get it to work under karmic21:37
duffydappears to be detected but when using networkmanager it just won't connect to my AP21:38
Luggageis the ssid hidden ?21:39
duffydfunny thing is using wicd and networkmanager it'll display some APs of my neighbours but even when I enter the essid of my AP still won't connect21:39
duffydyeah it is21:39
duffydit did connect under jaunty21:39
duffydbut when under high network load would fall over21:39
duffydaccording to this blog post, it should work now: http://vaioubuntu.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-beta/21:40
duffydas I know that the networking has had some improvements21:40
duffydbut not in my case :(21:40
Luggagethe only way I got wireless to use the hidden ap at my momś place was to manually put the info in /etc/network/interfaces21:40
duffydreally21:40
duffydthat's sad21:40
Luggageor unhide it and use decent encryption (wpa(2))21:40
duffydwicd does appear to be better21:41
duffydwell under jaunty anyway21:41
duffydbut not karmic21:41
LuggageI really need to write down how I did it so I can help peeps with this question when Im at home on my own wired pc21:41
duffydI'm not using any encryption on my AP21:41
duffydbut that shouldn't have an effect right?21:41
Luggagedon know from the top of my head how the interfaces file looks at the desktop at my moms :(21:41
Luggageno, it was just a suggestion if you go for unhiding it to solve the connection issue then protection might be useful ;)21:42
jacob_hello, i have a question about network management21:42
llutzduffyd: wasn't there a filed bug with knetworkmanager + hidden ssids?21:42
jacob_how do I get the knetworkmanager to load my static ip settings by default, and not after I click on them?21:43
duffydllutz: oh really?21:43
Luggageyes I think so llutz21:43
Luggagei had probs with 9.04 at mom21:43
Luggage's21:43
duffydok sweet21:43
duffydI'll do that then21:43
llutzand, btw, hiding ssids isn't a security feature at all21:43
Luggagebut works fine if you fill in the info in the interfaces file21:43
Luggagesomething like iface wlan0 inet dhcp ; wireless-essid <name> ; auto wlan021:44
duffydllutz: aye, I'm lazy21:44
duffydand stupid I know21:44
Luggagenah stupid people don bother to ask questions and learn ;)21:45
duffydlol21:45
duffydmy issue was due to my wife's machine having issues with encrypted wifi21:45
duffydshe's on an ancient kubuntu version21:45
Luggageps im a linux noob myself (dont like the word noob though)21:45
duffydLuggage: ;)21:45
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Luggagebrb time to make some coffee21:46
crisshi all i need help please, is there anyone in here who has setup a full linux network yet?21:50
crissi am new to ubuntu and linux21:51
deepdhi all21:52
kaustinjhhello21:52
crisshi all21:52
crissanyone in here an experienced linux user?21:52
kaustinjhyes but this is my first time on Kubuntu. Been using ubuntu since 6.0421:53
rerushgcrisis: what do you need?21:54
kaustinjhI'm feeling somewhere betwwen a child in a candy store and a noob all over again.21:54
crisskewl kaustinjh i am new to ubuntu but i am loving it .. i found an old 6.06 cd and installed and jaa now i upgraded to 8.04 sooo ... i want to implepent a full on linux network using ubuntu21:55
crissso now this is where you help me ...21:55
kaustinjhwell I have done a few interesting things with Linux over the past few years. I'm working on the new eucalyptus cloud at work.21:57
D-coyjoo la m4v x)21:57
Ricardo5Hay alguien que me de una mano para instalar kubuntu 9.10 netbook en una acer one d25021:57
D-coyRicardo5, /join #kubuntu-es21:58
kaustinjhcriss, where are you setting up your network> work or home?21:58
D-coyaver si no te dan ban :P21:58
Ricardo5alguien sabe el porque al querer instalar kubuntu 9.10 netbook en una acer one d250 la instalacion se pone muy lenta y debo cancelar21:59
Ricardo5alguien sabe el porque al querer instalar kubuntu 9.10 netbook en una acer one d250 la instalacion se pone muy lenta y debo cancelar22:02
jacob_hello22:02
jacob_does anyone know how to edit the "Auto eth0" settings in knetworkmanager?22:03
guitar431!esp22:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about esp22:03
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jacob_anyone? can I at least get a no from someone so I know there's people out there?22:04
jacob_hello, is anyone paying attention?22:05
adaptrwhut ?22:06
amichair!es | Ricardo522:08
ubottuRicardo5: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.22:08
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guitar431what do i have to do to get my 3d graphics card working. Each time i use the kubuntu system to install the driver kde crashes after reboot.22:22
guitar431Do you guys know an installation guide? Web page would be cool :)22:23
jessejazzaYes... but you may not like it22:26
guitar431hm22:27
jessejazzaPut it this way. I have loved *buntu for almost three years. But i've got very annoyed at some of the things they do with a new version. The display thing is disgraceful as Fedora seem to have got it sorted. I've given up on 6 month release distros. I've much to thank *buntu for. Afraid i've been smitten by Mepis - i wanted to say with apt package management and Mepis, Gentoo, Arch, debian was the options left. I'm not22:31
jessejazzasorry either. I wish *buntu did an annual release and sorted it properly22:31
maco9.10 was meant to have all crazy new stuff so itd get extra testing before 10.0422:32
macoso that 10.04 can be well-tested and stable22:32
macothat 9.10 would be rather experimental was decided early on22:32
jessejazzaYes i've gathered that... but no one has ever said as such. I did update with the April version after 7.0422:33
jessejazzaWhere does it say that october versions were experimental22:33
Scunizijessejazza: it never says that.. It's just that between LTS releases ubuntu tries new things, technologies etc.. they are not always stable.. and usually the release before an LTS has more issues for more people.22:42
Scunizi6.06 LTS (pretty good) ... 6.10 (ok but nothing to write home about) ... 7.04 (some hated) ... 7.10 (never tried because of stability reports) ... 8.04 LTS (still solid on my laptop) .. 8.10 (I liked) ... 9.04 (only ran it in a VM.. worked fine) .. 9.10 (breakage for some, sweet harmony for others)22:45
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lukasScunizi: Does anyone here know about significant performance decrease on KK (caused by mutex locks perhaps)?23:02
transithi!23:03
Hb_Kaiho23:03
m4valias dtc /dt; /buffer close23:06
m4vsry23:06
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Scunizilukas: sorry I don't23:27
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ZensursulaHi! Anyone an idea on freezing after satrx ?23:40
Zensursulasatertx23:40
Zensursulastartx23:40
lukasZensursula: some details?23:50
Zensursulakarmic 9.10 was running - no updates - next time it started it rn to the point where X starts it hangs - only rebootable by Hard reset23:52
lukasZensursula: could you use Caps Lock?23:52
lukasis mouse moving?23:52
larry_laramiesHEY, ITS MUCH EASIER TO TYPE NOW!23:52
lukasnvidia/ati ...?23:52
Zensursulanothing moves at all23:53
lukascan you paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:53
larry_laramiesINTEL 955gM23:53
lukasZaiden: and /home/<you>/.xsession-errors23:53
Zensursulacan't get it right noe. Installing Debian on an extra partition23:54
Zensursulabaut it is default "VESA"23:54
lukasno problem, get console (alt+F2, resp 3 ..) and mount it for reading23:55
Zaidenwha23:55
lukasZaiden: hello, wha wuat?23:56
ZaidenYou said my name along with and /home/<you>/.xsession-errors23:57
ubuntuhi23:58
lukasZaiden: yes23:58
lukasI do not know what is your home dir23:58
ZaidenI think you got me mixed uo with Zensursula23:59
lukasoh yes, sorry23:59
ZensursulaI'll test it with Debian and KDE on top23:59
lukasquite tired here :-)23:59

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