[00:05] <Planetary> I have no sound. 9.10. banshee doesnt play and has red X. amorok plays no sound. firefox has no sound. my speakers work. help please! :)
[00:11] <dhillon-v10> Planetary, I think you might have to report a bug :)
[00:13] <Planetary> ok. another sound problem is my laptop I updated to 9.10 and it worked fine and then banshee stopped working. vlc and internet works
[00:14] <k4> reporting bug is the best thing to do
[00:14] <dhillon-v10> Planetary, that is a software issue I think :)
[00:15] <Planetary> ok so what do i do
[00:15] <Planetary> where is the best place to go report
[00:16] <trgbeck> reinstal ALAS Stuff and Pulse audio stuff  under synaptic or kpackage ---l had same problem with intel hda
[00:17] <trgbeck> When i upgrade had the samerhing and searched around and found this in google and said in my areas that what to do
[00:17] <dhillon-v10> Planetary, launchpad if you have reported bugs before
[00:18] <k4> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[00:18] <k4> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[00:20] <Planetary> ok thanks.
[00:22] <Planetary> i ahve a / partition and a home partition. I did a new install so i formated / and made it ext3 and left home alone. all my settings and sound problem restored. are settings saved in /home?
[00:23] <Planetary> i mean i change / from ext3 to 4
[00:32] <d9500> Planetary, as far as sound settings go, alsa levels are stored in /etc/asound.state, but pulseaudio stores some, if not all, settings in ~/.pulse
[00:34] <Planetary> k thatnks
[00:36] <Planetary> I dont understand. I did a new install because my 9.04 was messed up and now all the problems are coming back. like dolphin has no window boarder, no sound. why is that. my home partition was not formated but / was
[00:37] <Planetary> i am runnin compiz btw
[00:38] <dhillon-v10> Planetary, try disabling compiz
[00:40] <d9500> planetary, not sure about that. I would try splitting the problems up. for example, to start with the windows borders--get rid of the compiz --replace entry in your startup programs and let kwin manage the windows
[00:41] <jwx> hey! why is it I have to select wallpaper twice in kde first file dialog then in image dropdown list.. it's silly
[00:41] <Planetary> ok its fine with kwin. i havent made compiz load at startup
[00:41] <jwx> and if theres a lot of wallpapers in there it lags
[00:42] <jwx> it should auto select wallpaper choosen in file dialog but doesnt =/
[00:46] <d9500> planetary, i'm not sure about the sound, but, just to get the dumb "is the computer plugged in" type questions out of the way, have you ran lspci -v to make sure that your sound card is recognized and driver (kernel module) is available? opened alsamixer in terminal and made sure your pcm isn't muted and is turned all the way up?
[00:47] <jwx> getting icon themes and color themes online is intuitive.. button for those.. but what about kde4 theme/style.. is there a button for that? just some random thoughts
[00:48] <d9500> jwk, you mean a button to change the plasma theme from within the gui?
[00:49] <Planetary> d9500 i havent done lspci. i have opened alsa mixer and my master and pcm are around 75-80% , i set it there for lower distortion.
[00:49] <jwx> d9500: i mean qt theme or whatever it is called..
[00:49] <jwx> kde style
[00:50] <jwx> not the plasma theme
[00:51] <Planetary> d9500 lspci -v shows it
[00:52] <d9500> planetary, and turning the pcm up to 100 and then trying to play a song still does nothing (i often have to do that; you can try turning it back to 80 once the song plays if turning it up to 100 works)
[00:53] <d9500> jwx, you mean under system settings > appearance?
[00:55] <jwx> d9500: right i want a button to download new styles automatically.. like for color schemes etc
[00:55] <jwx> =)
[00:55] <jwx> but there is none
[01:00] <d9500> jwx, no, i don't think it's built into kde4. At least, if it is, I can't find a config file in ~/kde4/share/config to modify that would make a button appear
[01:00] <d9500> (well, it's a different directory in this distro, but that's where it would probably be in a stock kde4 install, I guess)
[01:02] <jwx> not that it's needed.. but hey if they do it for color schemes and icon themes.. why not
[01:04] <jwx> the wallpaper thing is annoying.. doesn't set selected wallpaper from file dialog as default in the wallpaper dropdown list.. maybe it's a bug
[01:05] <d9500> jwx, in desktop settings > picture?
[01:06] <jwx> d9500: yea
[01:07] <jwx> doesn't work here.. have to scroll the list and select the wallpaper already selected in the file dialog.. weird
[01:08] <d9500> in mine, wallpaper > picture does set the wallpaper i select as default next time i open the dropdown for picture, without scrolling, so it could be a bug specific to the distro
[01:10] <Planetary> d9500: still no go on sound. ill work at it later. thanks for the help everyone
[01:11] <jwx> interesting to know.. here it just sets the selected wallpaper at the top of that list.. but not setting it as default to apply right away.. have to scroll up to the top
[01:11] <jwx> not sure if it's a kde, kubuntu bug or my box messed up someway
[01:45] <rav_> hello. i updated to karmic and now i can't transfer files through bluetooth to my cell phone anymore. is this a known issue?
[01:49] <rustam> 	
[01:49] <rustam> hello. how to get to work on emc2 Kubuntu 9
[01:53] <rustam> hello. is there anyone? I was the first time here
[01:54] <rustam> I'm here for the first time
[01:56] <Zxcvb> I configured the power managment notifications not to do anything when the AC adapter is inserted or removed, but it still pops up a notification and plays the sound
[01:56] <Zxcvb> how can I fix this?
[02:11] <Mandingo-Laptop> where do i put firmware files
[02:15] <Mandingo-Laptop> any1
[02:15] <Mandingo-Laptop> where do i put firmware files
[02:16] <Mandingo-Laptop> i dont want to put them in the wrong place
[02:22] <nasrullah> hi
[02:22] <nasrullah> i cannot shutdown and restart karmic ..your help please
[02:42] <vbin_>  都是老外？
[03:30] <jsubl2> Goodbye and Farewell
[03:49] <twoten> I just installed Kubuntu 9.10, and the nVidia driver will not load, so I look at my xorg.conf, and it's basically worthless, all the driver details have been off loaded somewhere else
[03:49] <twoten> where have these ubuntu masterminds placed the real info for xorg?
[03:52] <_Techie_> is the current ISO of kubuntu very stable?
[03:52] <jsubl2> it is for me.. i am using the 64bit branch
[03:54] <d9500> twoten, the newer ubuntus and their derivatives do not use the old style xorg.conf. in fact, a stock install may have no xorg.conf at all. pastebin your xorg.conf so i can look for which portions are missing. also, what is your card model and are you running a single monitor, dual monitor, or other configuration, like one horizontal monitor and one vertical?
[03:54] <twoten> alright just give me a minute ...
[03:56] <twoten> I did the pastebin under the name twoten
[03:57] <d9500> link please?
[03:58] <twoten> it's a quadro4 980xgl single monitor, right side up
[03:58] <twoten> http://pastebin.com/d11845ace
[03:59] <twoten> I got the nVidia 96.43.13 driver installed thru synaptic but it doesn't load
[04:02] <twoten> I purged all the other drivers first, when I do (from root prompt) nvidia-xconfig, it makes an xorg.conf that bombs out and I have to put the old one back
[04:02] <twoten> maybe I need to do a dpkg -reconfigure?
[04:10] <d9500> twoten, if the driver is actually installed correctly (not sure if synaptic did or not) then i've pastebin'd a sample xorg.conf that may work. http://pastebin.com/d6e8ac611
[04:10] <d9500> twoten, you may need to modify the fonts section depending on what fonts you want to use. some people like larger characters in their font
[04:11] <d9500> twoten, also, be sure to put the model of your card where it says [your card model here]
[04:15] <twoten> thanks - looks great - I will backup the old, install the new and restart!
[04:16] <d9500> twoten, wait..some instructions if it doesn't work. delete the "board name" line, b/c it might require the actual board name, so if it does require the nvidia code name, then just leave that line out and see if it auto detects
[04:16] <d9500> also, i think the nouveau project at nouveau.freedesktop.org has a list of specific names for boards if it does require one.
[04:18] <twoten> hardinfo says my card is a nVidia Corporation NV28GL (Quadro4 980 XGL)
[04:18] <d9500> ok, let me find the board name on that
[04:22] <d9500> twoten, there doesn't seem to be a "g" designation for that one, (like "G92" for example) so I would just try "NV28GL [Quadro 980 XGL]" in the board name line if leaving the line out enteirly fails.
[04:22] <d9500> but i would just leave it out at first and see if that works.
[04:23] <d9500> entirely*
[04:25] <twoten> okay then I'm going in, I can always get to a root prompt and use mc to make repairs if it bombs out
[04:25] <d9500> twoten, and you're certain the driver is installed? what does lsmod | grep nvidia show?
[04:27] <twoten> I get 2 lines returned:
[04:27] <twoten> nvidia               4704212  0
[04:27] <twoten> agpgart                34988  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[04:27] <d9500> twoten, looks like it's loaded. good luck.
[04:27] <twoten> thanks for all the great help!
[04:28] <d9500> no prob. let me know if it works or not
[04:36] <twoten> well that worked perfectly
[04:36] <twoten> always a pleasure to see the big nVidia logo filling up the screen
[04:36] <twoten> now I can install blender!
[04:38] <d9500> twoten, you actually like the logo? i never could get it to appear, but a lot of the xorg.conf instructions say to add Option "NoLogo" "True" under the Device section to keep the logo from showing during the initialisation.
[04:39] <d9500> twoten, also, check your xorg.0.log for errors on loading fonts and modules, and if you see an error related to a particular one, comment out that line in your xorg.conf and let it autodetect. the errors may be harmless, but no sense in adding extra stuff to log files if you need to look through them later
[04:39] <twoten> sometimes it blinks for just an instant
[04:41] <d9500> glad to hear it worked though. why nvidia can't just release specs and let the devs build an open source driver that doesn't require such a convoluted xorg.conf though?
[04:42] <twoten> kind> it's a very competitive and secretive business
[04:42] <twoten> unkind> they're a bunch of dominator sociopaths
[04:43]  * d9500 is using nouveau here. no binary-only for me.
[04:44] <d9500> at least for now. after that bug with X server 1.7.901, I switched to the open source driver.
[04:45] <twoten> the open source driver just can't cut it when making 3d animations with ray tracing and radiosity
[04:47] <d9500> give me decent kwin effects and xv for youtube videos (not like flash isn't crap anyway, but every bit of accel helps) and i'm happy. for what it's wroth, though, the nouveau feature matrix did just fill in two more spots on the 3d features today, so maybe in i year or so the gallium 3d portion of the driver will be usuable
[04:47] <d9500> worth*
[04:47] <d9500> a year*
[04:48] <Lascivus> I have a problem and I want to see if anyone here has had the same problem, it's more of an annoyance, than a problem ....
[04:48] <twoten> gypsy curse?
[04:49] <Lascivus> I will click on a program from the menu and it will exexute, package manager for this example...  The program will open, ince I click my mouse on any button in hte program, the button wont execute the desired task untill I move the mouse pointer....
[04:50] <Lascivus> Anyone ever had his problem?
[04:50] <Lascivus> *this problem
[04:52] <d9500> Lascivus, not exactly, but i'm seeing something similar in 9.10, problems with moving opened windows around. sometimes dragging them does not work. have to click and drag again. but then, it's a vm, so i'm tempted to write it off as just vm typical slowness, except that others have reported the same, presumably on a physical machine.
[04:52] <d9500> could be a driver issue or X server, i guess
[04:53] <luis_> Hello guys i am giving invitations to lockerz, any one interested click here: http://www.wix.com/Luija1006/Lockerz-Invites-By-Luis-Javier
[04:53] <twoten> maybe it's your mouse? or something else is grabbing mouse focus messages at the same time?
[04:53] <Lascivus> Thanks D9500 :-)
[04:53] <Lascivus> I thought about that, however 9.04 worked fine, this happened after upgrade
[04:55] <twoten> hey I'll tell you my problem, I installed 9.04 everything worked, then I installed 9.10
[04:55] <twoten> and the new 9.10 grub would load itself in an infinite loop and fill the screen with grub grub grub
[04:55] <Lascivus> Now that sux
[04:56] <twoten> so I reinstalled 9.04 and did the upgrade from there, finally it's all working
[04:57] <Lascivus> Yeah, I did a clean install (same problem), then reinstalled 9.04 clean, upgraded, same problem, I've wrote it of to a driver issue
[04:58] <d9500> Lascivus, maybe try doing apt-cache search xorg | less | grep input and noting the ones that apply to your computer, for example, if you do not have a joystick or a tablet, do not write the "input-joystick" or "input-wacom" ones down, then do a reinstall of the relevant drivers?
[05:00] <d9500> Lascivus, i pastebin'd the packages for you. http://pastebin.com/dd5ceb4f
[05:02] <Lascivus> That's what mine says also, thank you btw
[05:03] <Lascivus> http://pastebin.com/m5aee46dd
[05:07] <d9500> Lascivus, actually, dpkg --get-selections | grep input would probably be better. that should just show the ones you have installed rather than the longer list.
[05:10] <Lascivus> d9500, http://pastebin.com/m36cedc1f does this tell me to install or it is installed?
[05:12] <d9500> Lascivus, install means it is installed. see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/show-the-list-of-installed-packages-on-ubuntu-or-debian/
[05:13] <Lascivus> thanks, d9500 :-)
[05:14] <d9500> cool site, by the way, if you've never heard of it. many of the linux tips are older, but since a lot of it's command line stuff, unless a particular command has been depreciated, many should still work
[05:16] <hagabaka> after upgrading to karmic, the shutdown and reboot options in menu don't work any more. nothing happens when I click on them. any idea how to fix?
[05:36] <zeelot> hey guys, I have 2 wireless adapters, both giving me issues,netgear wg111v3 (connects but the connection is highly unstable, causing very slow browing and lots of buffering on videos), and a belkin wireless N adapter that shows up and finds the network but does not connect
[05:36] <zeelot> anyone know how I can get either one of these to work correctly?
[05:37] <zeelot> kubuntu 9.10 beta, I think it updated all the way
[05:47] <zeelot> anyone? =(
[06:08] <android06> hola
[06:19] <k4> zeelot: type "dmesg" in the konsole
[06:19] <k4> zeelot: only if your not a beginner please
[06:20] <zeelot> eek
[06:20] <zeelot> confusing
[06:20] <k4> kk, then close it
[06:20] <k4> :)
[06:20] <zeelot> lol
[06:21] <k4> yea if you cant read it you shounld read it :---)
[06:21] <ryan-c> can i install kubuntu into my existing RAID1+LVM setup?
[06:21] <johannes__> hello ... can somebody help with my audio configuration? i use an external soundcard hercules mk 2 .. i have a problem with my sound in videos. dragon player is working, but all other players don't play any sound. xine, mplayer ...
[06:23] <k4> @ zeelot , there you can see if there are any issues when you try using your wireless
[06:24] <k4> zeelot: probably someone can help you then with more info
[06:25] <chiqui> Hi all
[06:25] <k4> johannes__: try to configure phonon @ systemsettings for another audio device
[06:26] <chiqui> i want to export my DISPLAY to another vtty
[06:26] <chiqui> i know that i must modify DISPLAY variable
[06:26] <chiqui> but i do it
[06:26] <chiqui> and fail.
[06:26] <chiqui> Please help.
[06:27] <k4> chiqui: x server : "export DISPLAY=mymachine.mynet.uidaho.edu:0.0"
[06:27] <johannes__> k4 .. can you explain a little?
[06:28] <k4> chiqui: you must enable access on the other xserver for clients to connect , try to type : "xhost +"
[06:28] <johannes__> k4 i have configured system settings: multimedia for the external soundcard .. amarok and dragon player are working
[06:28] <k4> johannes__: looks like the default device dragon player is using is blocking the device
[06:28] <chiqui> let me try
[06:28] <k4> johannes__: yea the other programm's don't usw phonon to output sound , so this is blocking the audio
[06:29] <k4> try to switch phonon to something different
[06:29] <johannes__> k4 how?
[06:29] <k4> johannes__: systemsettings->multimedia
[06:29] <Julian__> hi
[06:29] <johannes__> k4 oh, i see
[06:30] <Julian__> Lol, its work
[06:30] <chiqui> its not working
[06:31] <chiqui> i want to
[06:31] <johannes__> k4 but then amarok won't work anymore, will it?
[06:31] <k4> johannes__: sorry i am guessing , i have the same problem sometimes
[06:31] <johannes__> k4 ok
[06:31] <chiqui> sorry, when pressed xhost + in my konsole he said that he cant open the display :0.1
[06:32] <k4> chiqui: :-)
[06:32] <k4> chiqui: am i right , you got 2 xserver (or computers) and want a programm to start on the other xserver(computer)
[06:33] <k4> chiqui: on the first computer do the export stuff, on the computer you want to connect to , do "xhost +"
[06:33] <chiqui> ok
[06:33] <k4> chiqui:  then go to the computer where you did the export stuff , and start something in the same konsole
[06:34] <k4> chiqui:  like dolphin or ...
[06:34] <k4> chiqui: not by menu
[06:35] <chiqui> nothing happened
[06:35] <chiqui> he says to me when i do xinit
[06:35] <chiqui> that someone is already using the x server
[06:43] <k4> chiqui : if you want to start a second xserver on antoher display you must add a option in a xserver /gdm/kdm config file
[06:43] <k4> i think it's somewhere /etc/X11/...
[06:52] <underdog7> does anybody know of a website that allows you to post text (e.g. debugging text) and then refer people to an address so they can see what you've posted -- i used to have one of these sites, but i forget it now
[06:56] <i_is_broke> pastebin.com
[06:57] <underdog7> is anyone familiar with wordpress?
[06:57] <underdog7> i_is_broke: thanks :)
[06:58] <i_is_broke> np
[07:47] <underdog7> oes anyone know of any free web hosting (nothing special/fancy) -- just enough for me to test and develop a wordpress web site?
[07:49] <r00t_ninja> 000webhost.com
[07:49] <Tm_T> pretty offtopic
[08:40] <Taggnostr> hello
[08:42] <Taggnostr> when I check 'set data and time automatically' from the date & time window in the system settings and click on apply, it sets the correct date/time, but when I close the windows and open it again it's not checked anymore. Is there a way to keep it checked and/or to always have the right date/time?
[08:44] <xh_> hi! why can't i drag a widget to a panel? are widgets for the desktop only? what else can i drag to a panel except app launchers?
[08:49] <xh_> Taggnostr: if you want to sync the time automatically on boot, add this: to our /etc/rc.local: 'rdate -s time-a.nist.gov'
[08:49] <Taggnostr> thanks
[08:50] <xh_> Taggnostr: and if rdate is not installed then: sudo apt-get install rdate
[08:51] <xh_> Taggnostr: ..and this is going to work even if xorg and kde fails to start.. :)
[08:51] <Taggnostr> I wonder why it doesn't keep that option checked though
[08:52] <xh_> Taggnostr: it is most likely some permission issue; or some 'upgrade-from-older-version' issue
[08:54] <xh_> Taggnostr: check for files in you home folder owned by root, just to be sure
[08:54] <Taggnostr> how can I check the owner?
[08:54] <xh_> Taggnostr: cd <enter> find . -user root
[08:55] <yamokidzu-it> lo again
[08:55] <^wanhuubb-it> is it simple to sitch from gnome to kde? does kde request less system requirements?
[08:56] <^wanhuubb-it> *switch
[08:57] <Taggnostr> xh_, no files with root user
[08:57] <xh_> Taggnostr: good! then it is something else;) did you upgrade kde?
[08:58] <Taggnostr> yep, at some point I think I did it
[08:59] <^wanhuubb-it> help
[09:00] <xh_> Taggnostr: if it is because of this, then you could try temporarily renaming your ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 folders and restart xorg and see if that works; if it does then it is because of some old kde settings
[09:06] <Taggnostr> xh_, do I need to put 'sudo' too in the rc.local? from the terminal rdate doesn't work without it
[09:07] <xh_> Taggnostr: no, no need, it will be run as sudo anyway
[09:07] <Taggnostr> ok
[09:09] <Taggnostr> ok, I think I did it, thanks
[09:12] <^wanhuubb-it> is it simple to switch from gnome to kde? does kde request less system requirements?
[09:12] <^wanhuubb-it> help
[09:19] <^wanhuubb-it> ^peter^
[09:19] <^wanhuubb-it> salut 'onyx
[09:20] <^wanhuubb-it> lo [vali]
[09:20] <^wanhuubb-it> lo zorael
[09:20] <^wanhuubb-it> lo zeelot
[09:20] <^wanhuubb-it> lo yuriy
[09:23] <soulsurfer> hey, i'm using kubuntu 9.10 and i installed cheese and kamoso to try to take off the "mirror" effect which I saw in skype, and now my webcam is appearing in black and white
[09:23] <soulsurfer> any ideas on how i might change the settings of the webcam?
[09:29] <^wanhuubb-it> help
[09:29] <^wanhuubb-it> lo yuli
[09:29] <^wanhuubb-it> lo xh_
[09:30] <ali_> h
[09:30] <ali_> h
[09:30] <ali_> h
[09:30] <ali_> h
[09:30] <FloodBotK2> ali_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:31] <^wanhuubb-it> lo ahox
[09:31] <^wanhuubb-it> lo amichair
[09:31] <^wanhuubb-it> lo Ash-Fox
[09:32] <amichair> ^wanhuubb-it: have we met before?
[09:32] <^wanhuubb-it> yes
[09:33] <Ash-Fox> I don't think so.
[09:33] <^wanhuubb-it> I have lots of names ;-)
[09:33] <^wanhuubb-it> can you help me?
[09:33] <amichair> !ask | ^wanhuubb-it
[09:33] <^wanhuubb-it> I already ASKED IT before...
[09:34] <^wanhuubb-it> but if you want I RE-ask it
[09:34] <amichair> ^wanhuubb-it: then I guess no one here at the moment knew the answer
[09:35] <^wanhuubb-it> is it simple to switch from gnome to kde? does kde request less system requirements?
[09:35] <^wanhuubb-it> 3rd time I write this ;-)
[09:35] <amichair> ^wanhuubb-it: sometimes you have to bee patient... there's no oracle here that knows all the answers :-)
[09:36] <amichair> ^wanhuubb-it: (btw please don't ping every person on the list... that's quite impolite)
[09:39] <^wanhuubb-it> ok
[09:39] <^wanhuubb-it> I'm TOO patient amichair ;-)
[09:40] <^wanhuubb-it> lo asobi
[09:40] <amichair> ^wanhuubb-it: I don't know about resource consumption differences. I think if u install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages then they exist side by side and u can select which session to use in the login menu.
[09:40] <^wanhuubb-it> ok
[09:41] <^wanhuubb-it> HOW?
[09:42] <amichair> ^wanhuubb-it: using synaptic in ubuntu or kpackagekit in kubuntu, whichever u installed first
[09:42] <amichair> look for them in the menus
[09:44] <^wanhuubb-it> what's the package?
[09:45] <^wanhuubb-it> amichair
[09:45] <amichair> ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde
[09:55] <^wanhuubb-it> so if I am on ubuntu-gnome, I have to get kubuntu-desktop?
[09:55] <amichair> ^wanhuubb-it: yes
[09:55] <^wanhuubb-it> so is it the same of have kubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[09:56] <amichair> yes, they both have the same common base, and on top of that ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu has kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu has xubuntu-desktop, and the netbook editions have their own packages too
[09:57] <^wanhuubb-it> amichair : why wicd have to been removed?
[09:57] <^wanhuubb-it> isn't it kde-based?
[09:57] <amichair> I don't know, maybe it conflicts with knetworkmanager or something
[09:58] <^wanhuubb-it> I unistalled network man...
[09:58] <amichair> u can probably put it back later if u want
[09:58] <^wanhuubb-it> so kde-desktop re-install network manager?
[10:00] <^wanhuubb-it> really don't understand
[10:00] <^wanhuubb-it> Because Wicd does not use any GNOME dependencies, it can easily be used on GNOME, KDE, Xfce, Fluxbox, or any other window manager.[2]" from wikipedia
[10:00] <amichair> each desktop comes with its own defaults, if u install kubuntu-desktop it will install its defaults. u can switch again later if u want.
[10:01] <^wanhuubb-it> but can't it be installed without remove wicd?
[10:02] <^wanhuubb-it> can't I unselect network manager from the list?
[10:03] <amichair> I don't know, u can try
[10:03] <^wanhuubb-it> it seems to be not possible
[10:04] <^wanhuubb-it> don't want to re-install this damnit network manager!!!
[10:04] <amichair> sorry, I don't know any more about that.
[10:24] <^wanhuubb-it> does k3b install only kde-desktop without applications?
[10:25] <tsimpson> installing k3b will only install the parts of KDE it needs, the KDE libraries
[10:29] <^wanhuubb-it> and kde-desktop?
[10:29] <^wanhuubb-it> help
[10:30] <tsimpson> no, just the libraries
[10:32] <ahox> Hi, I installed the kde-webkit and now I would like to use it as a default, at least for some sites. Is this possible?
[10:32] <^wanhuubb-it> and how to swith from ubuntu to kubuntu without install network manager?
[10:32] <^wanhuubb-it> help
[10:33] <^wanhuubb-it> wagle
[10:33] <^wanhuubb-it> lo vorian
[10:33] <^wanhuubb-it> lo verendi
[10:33] <ct529> hi everybody. DO you know how to stream from a itune video repository under kubuntu (904)?
[10:34] <^wanhuubb-it> amichair
[10:35] <tsimpson> ahox: from konqueror, Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> text -> html -> Embedding (tab), move the webkit part to the top of the list
[10:36] <ahox> ^wanhuubb-it: If you really do not want the knetworkmanager, just deinstall it afterwards. It's probably the easiest
[10:37] <ahox> tsimpson, thanks
[10:38] <seicherlbob> hi! i habe a problem with a samba share not following symlinks. Setup: Samba server with public share. in that share, there is a symlink to another directory. I can natively access that link normal from a windows client as if it was a directory. From kubuntu, it is displayed as a link and thus not working. Samba share is set to "follow symlinks yes". the share is mounted with "//server/public       /mnt/public      cifs
[10:38] <seicherlbob> credentials=.credentials,dir_mode=777,file_mode=777,iocharset=iso8859-15,nobrl        0       0"
[10:51] <^wanhuubb-it> what are the diff from kdebase and kdebase-bin?
[10:51] <^wanhuubb-it> help
[10:52] <Tm_T> ^wanhuubb-it: kdebase package containst all of kdebase (it's metapackage, pulling the others with it), including kdebase-bin
[10:52] <^wanhuubb-it> and desktop env?
[10:53] <Tm_T> yes
[10:54] <bigbrovar> .
[10:55] <^wanhuubb-it> ok thanks
[11:32] <tsimpson> !webkitkde is <reply> To enable the WebKit KPart for Konqueror you must install the « webkitkde » package. To make WebKit the default for displaying web pages in Konqueror go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> text -> html -> Embedding (tab), and move the WebKit to the top of the list.
[11:38] <kosta> hi
[11:38] <kosta> Hi
[11:38] <tsimpson> hello
[11:39] <kosta> helo
[11:39] <kosta> what up
[11:39] <tsimpson> waiting for support questions
[11:39] <kosta> ?
[11:40] <tsimpson> this is a support channel for #kubuntu, there is general chat in #kubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-offtopic (more active)
[11:40] <amichair> I got one: since the karmic upgrade my google toolbar in firefox seems non-functional (no quick-find buttons, no highlighting, no settings dialog, etc.). is this a known issue?
[11:41] <kosta> ok
[11:42] <tsimpson> amichair: works here, make sure it's updated. I have version 3.1.20081127L
[11:44] <amichair> tsimpson: I have 5.0.20090122Lb2 it seems
[11:45] <tsimpson> I installed it a while ago, guess google don't do auto-updates
[11:45] <amichair> tsimpson: haven't manually intervened since original install in intrepid, so I guess it climbed there itself
[11:47] <^y_emkidzu-it> lo again how use wireless with kde?
[11:48] <tsimpson> with network manager
[11:48] <amichair> tsimpson: there's also a constant annoying little empty-squre tooltip anywhere on the page the mouse rests
[11:48] <tsimpson> amichair: I don't see that either
[11:49] <amichair> tsimpson: well I hope it gets sorted out with an update soon :-)
[11:50] <tsimpson> amichair: looks like 6.1.20091007L is the latest google toolbar, from toolbar.google.com
[11:50] <tsimpson> I'd say to remove the old version then install the new one, see if that fixes that issue
[11:50] <amichair> tsimpson: 'find updates' doesn't grab it. I'll try
[11:51] <tsimpson> "find updates" didn't for me, but from the website it has the new version
[11:52] <^y_emkidzu-it> I have wicd now...
[11:52] <^y_emkidzu-it> amichair
[11:53] <^y_emkidzu-it> it shows only wired network without wireless
[11:54] <^y_emkidzu-it> tsimson
[11:54] <^y_emkidzu-it> help
[11:55] <dcorbin_work> How do I figure out which version gtk+ I have installed?
[11:58] <llutz> dcorbin_work: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[11:58] <amichair> dcorbin_work: in general 'apt-cache policy <package>' will show u the version of package
[12:10] <dcorbin_work> I have a video problem.  Frequently, large windows do not repaint.  If I make them smaller, they do.  Over time, the problem becomes more severe and my windows get smaller and smaller.  Eventually, I have to reboot (as if video RAM is leaking).  It's an NVIDIA card.  I've tried two different versions of the NVIDIA drivers.  It seems to have shown up when I upgrade kbuntu (not Karmic, but the one before that), but I cannot swear to it.  1) Ho
[12:10] <dcorbin_work> w do I figure out of it's hardware or software. 2) Assuming software, how do I diagnosis it further.  In my mind, could be the driver, or X, or kde.
[12:11] <dcorbin_work> I do run dual monitors in TwinView mode.
[12:11] <^y_emkidzu-it> connection problem wicd wireless help
[12:20] <s-toned> Since KDE4 I can't find the possibility to save *.war. The html-settings under the Extra-menu have also gone. What do I have to do to get them back? (konq-plugins and konqueror-plugin-khtmlsettings are installed)
[12:22] <s-toned> The solution might be kdeaddons, but that's not installable in kubuntu 9.10. But, kdeaddons is still part of KDE4. The problem seems to be Ubuntu.
[12:27] <tsimpson> s-toned: kdeaddons is not part of KDE4
[12:28] <s-toned> tsimpson: in #kde they said so
[12:29] <tsimpson> s-toned: it was part of KDE3, but not 4. there is no "kdeaddons" component of KDE
[12:30] <tsimpson> s-toned: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.3.3/src/ <- no kdeaddons package
[12:31] <amichair> tsimpson: new googbar works fine, guess their upgrade path got screwed up somehow
[12:31] <tsimpson> yeah, there's been a few "enhancements" since my version
[12:32] <s-toned> tsimpson: thiago said so very firmly, but anyway, what can I do to get the html-settings in the extras-menu in konqueror back (and the saving as *.war)?
[12:35] <tsimpson> s-toned: the "HTML Settings" under Tools?
[12:36] <s-toned> tsimpson: yes, might be "Tools" (here it's called Extra)
[12:36] <tsimpson> well I see the "Archive Web Page" entry under Tools here
[12:38] <s-toned> tsimpson: here is only adblock, and timed reload of pages, how could I activate/install the  "Archive Web Page" (and proxy, javascript, ...) entries ?
[12:39] <tsimpson> s-toned: those should be part of the konq-plugins package
[12:40] <s-toned> tsimpson: konq-plugins are installed (4.3.0)
[12:41] <tsimpson> it says "Web Archiver : creates archives of websites" is a part of it, and I have that version
[12:43] <tsimpson> check that you have /usr/share/kde4/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_webarchiver.desktop and /usr/lib/kde4/webarchiverplugin.so
[12:43] <tsimpson> those seem to be the needed parts
[12:47] <s-toned> tsimpson: there is only /usr/lib/kde3/libwebarchiverplugin.so  (yes, no slash between lib, and web)  (/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/webarchiverplugin.desktop is there)
[12:49] <tsimpson> s-toned: that's the kde3 version, not the kde4 version
[12:49] <tsimpson> try reinstalling the konq-plugins package (sudo apt-get --reinstall install konq-plugins)
[12:53] <s-toned> tsimpson: you are right, it's from konq-plugins 3.5.10    BUT, apt-get says it's the latest and greatest, that's why I've never looked before. (Karmic Koala should have 4.3.0), hmm..
[12:54] <tsimpson> karmic does have 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu4
[12:54] <tsimpson> !info konq-plugins
[12:57] <ngirard> Hi all. Using equivs-build I've built & installed a dummy package whose "provides" are beeing ignored by apt-get. Specifically, my texlive-dummy does provide, among others, tex-common ; and yet  apt-get install jadetex requires libosp5 openjade1.3 tex-common tipa to be installed... any thoughts ?
[12:58] <tsimpson> ngirard: best to ask in #ubuntu-motu they may have insight
[13:00] <tsimpson> ngirard: but, you probably want to provide, conflict and replace the packages
[13:03] <s-toned> tsimpson: Sorry, I've already installed those two files. I looked at the wrong machine (via ssh), sorry.   But, it still doesn't work.
[13:05] <tsimpson> s-toned: I don't know why it wouldn't work then, it works fine here and I can't find any other packages regarding it
[13:08] <s-toned> tsimpson: It has been upgraded several times, (since 7.10). Maybe it's time for a fresh re-install. Thank you very much.
[13:09] <tsimpson> no problem, hope everything sorts itself out for you
[13:10] <dangerx89_> ciao
[13:12] <Greenery> Amarok is bugging me with the playlist error. Any idea why?
[13:17] <polyculture> Greenery: is it playing at all? What's the issue
[13:17] <Greenery> polyculture: it plays certain files and most of the time it shows a playlist error. No sound coming out.
[13:18] <polyculture> ok, might be a different issue than the one i had
[13:18] <polyculture> i could play files at all
[13:19] <polyculture> in my case it helped to delete the .xine folder in your home directory
[13:20] <polyculture> anyway you might find out more by executing "amarok --debug" in konsole
[13:20] <hisam> i'm facing probs configuring my wireless lan
[13:21] <hisam> please help
[13:22] <hisam> neone der??
[13:23] <ikonia> hisam: what's up ?
[13:24] <SatanClaus> hey guys, I just migrated from Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 3.5) to 9.10 (KDE 4.3.2) and wonder if there's some way to migrate all the work I invested into my kopete contact list... e.g. many of my friends have several contacts, which I "subcontacted" and linked with the contacts from Kaddressbook. I also used the names from there. All this seems to be gone now (I have one "container" per subcontact). Any hints?
[13:25] <ngirard> Hi tsimpson, thanks for your feedback and sorry for this late answer. I didn't know about #ubuntu-motu, i'll ask there. I didn't understand your next sentence ; could you please elaborate ? (you probably want to provide, conflict and replace the packages)
[13:26] <tsimpson> ngirard: as well as "Provides: <package>", you may also need "Conflicts: <package>" and "Replaces: <package>" to force apt to not try and install the packages
[13:27] <tsimpson> SatanClaus: you may want to ask in #kde about that, I don't use kopete too much
[13:31] <ngirard> tsimpson: well, "Replaces" doesn't work. Trying Confilcts...
[13:31] <tsimpson> ngirard: you usually use "Replaces" and "Conflicts" together
[13:34] <zippy> how can low-graphic-mode-message on start-up be avoided?
[13:35] <d9500> zippy, what model of video card and which driver?
[13:35] <ngirard> tsimpson: So, I've compiled & installed a new texlive-dummy package which Provides, Conflicts and Replaces every possible tex-related packages I could find. And guess what apt-get install jadetex suggests ? To remove my dummy package in order to install the damn tex-related ones...
[13:37] <zippy> d9500 i use nvidia-driver for my pretty old card but its working with 3d
[13:38] <zippy> i found a workaround but its annoying
[13:38] <d9500> zippy, you mean the system boots to low-graphics mode yet 3d works?
[13:38] <zippy> yeah
[13:38] <tsimpson> ngirard: it should not try to install anything it conflicts
[13:38] <d9500> what workaround are you currently using?
[13:38] <zippy> i tried lots of the menu stuff nothing worked
[13:39] <zippy> i couldnt even get a shell
[13:39] <zippy> finally google helped me find to use the esc and wait a little
[13:40] <ngirard> tsimpson: I might just ask #ubuntu-motu as you adviced me. On which server can I find this channel ?
[13:40] <zippy> then its booting into graphic
[13:40] <tsimpson> ngirard: on this server
[13:41] <ngirard> tsimpson: weird... doesn't seem to appear on the channel list...
[13:41] <d9500> zippy, which nvidia driver version? 96, 173, or 190? also, which specific card?
[13:42] <tsimpson> ngirard: the server list on freenode is huge, it's probably filtered in some way
[13:42] <zippy> i pinned the 173 for 5600-fx
[13:42] <tsimpson> ngirard: it's best to use '/msg alis list <term>', see '/msg alis help list' for more
[13:43] <ngirard> tsimpson: okay. Thanks very much for your time and assistance
[13:43] <tsimpson> no problem
[13:43] <zippy> d9 GeForce FX 5600XT
[13:44] <zippy> d9500 GeForce FX 5600XT
[13:44] <d9500> zippy, that's the correct driver version. have you done a kernel upgrade recently?
[13:44] <zippy> yes
[13:45] <zippy> 2.6.31-15-generic
[13:45] <d9500> zippy, how recenelty? did the driver stop working right after the upgrade?
[13:45] <d9500> recently*
[13:46] <zippy> 2009-11-10 17:46 it was
[13:47] <d9500> zippy, ok, but did the system start only booting into low graphics mode after the upgrade?
[13:47] <zippy> d9500 you didnt get it its more serious
[13:47] <zippy> low graphics is not starting
[13:47] <zippy> just nothing
[13:48] <d9500> zippy, no, i got that part, but you said you could hit esc and wait and low grpahics would.
[13:48] <zippy> not a shell no reconfigure no backup nothing works
[13:48] <d9500> would start*
[13:49] <zippy> after esc i have nvidia up running with 3d
[13:49] <zippy> low graphic does not work
[13:50] <d9500> zippy, very odd. i've seen nvidia driver failures with the black screen, no terminal to fallback to, and i've seen a failure where low grahics mode is all that would load, but never seen one where the black screen will give way to working 3d. can you pastebin your xorg.conf and xorg.0.log?
[13:51] <CupofDice> Thinking of getting the comcast self-install kit. i have a windows box just in case, but I want to set it up with my linux box. any ideas on what I'll have to do?
[13:52] <zippy> d9500 i try
[14:00] <zippy> d9500 http://pastebin.com/m2f643ebe
[14:02] <d9500> zippy, dual monitors using xinerama? i'm probably not going to be able to help you then. no experience with that
[14:02] <tommaso> hi, the wireless/ethernet connection manager doesn't work well, when I wanto to switch from one to another it's not able to connect anymore. are there better softwares to handle this situation?
[14:03] <zippy> d9500 http://pastebin.com/m6c1bc817
[14:03] <zippy> im not using that: 1 monitor
[14:03] <zippy> maybe i can disable it entirely
[14:04] <zippy> if that helps
[14:04] <d9500> zippy, your xorg.conf does seem needlessly complex for a single monitor configuration
[14:05] <zippy> so what can i discard?
[14:05] <seraphim> hello, sun-java plugin does not work with firefox on 9.10. anyone can help ?
[14:05] <tommaso> I'm on kubuntu 9.04 have you ever experienced problems with your connection manager?
[14:05] <d9500> i can paste an old one that i used once as a template.
[14:05] <tommaso> problems like you want to swith from wireless to ethernet and it can't connect to ethernet?
[14:06] <tommaso> I have to restart the computer to get it wrking
[14:06] <tommaso> working
[14:07] <d9500> zippy, i'll also paste a minimal one that lets the x server do most of the work by autoconfiguring. give me a minute to pastebin them, then try one and if that one doesn't work, then the other
[14:07] <zippy> d9500 ok give me some time to eat: im hungry ;-)
[14:13] <d9500> zippy, ok, i may have to leave before you get back, but if so, here's the simpler xorg.conf, which specifies some settings. http://pastebin.com/d6dc55037
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:14] <zippy> d9500 thx i will try
[14:16] <d9500> zippy, here's the minimalist one as well, that lets the x server autoconfigure most settings. http://pastebin.com/d62a2bc2f
[14:22] <oobe> i keep adding a widget to my panel by right clicking where i want it to go then adding it in the menu but it appears on the wrong side how do i specify where it goes
[14:23] <tsimpson> oobe: click the "cashew" icon in the bottom right and move the widget around the panel
[14:25] <oobe> i dont see a cashew icon
[14:25] <Tm_T> locked widgets?
[14:25] <oobe> no
[14:26] <Tm_T> oobe: then at the right/bottom end of panel should be icon
[14:27] <bob__> hello
[14:28] <bob__> I can not share directory for samba on karmic
[14:28] <bob__> someone can help me please?
[14:28] <oobe> when i right click on the quick access widget all i see is 3 options remove panel options and quick access settings
[14:29] <tsimpson> oobe: not on the widget, on the far right of the panel
[14:35] <oobe> ok thanks guys
[14:36] <zippy> d9500 rebooting now - hope i manage to come back soon
[14:37] <hisam> i have problems configuring wireless lan on my kubuntu 9.10
[14:37] <hisam> please help
[14:38] <Tm_T> hisam: what kind of problem? and what kind of devices you have?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> bob__, you don't share samba , you share directories or folders in windows using samba on your linux machine , but first you must set up sharing of those directories in windows
[14:38] <hisam> i hv a dell inspiron
[14:39] <hisam> and have got wirless enabled
[14:39] <BluesKaj> hisam, do you see the network manager icon in the panel ?
[14:39] <hisam> ya i do
[14:40] <RaiCoss> Does anyone know how to fix the xserver 1.5.3 keyboard/mouse not getting recognized bug? I've tried AllowEmptyInput in 3 different ways but nothing works!
[14:40] <hisam> and enable wireless is ticked
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hisam, have you configured it to find the router/modem IP address ?
[14:41] <hisam> nooo
[14:41] <hisam> how do i do it??
[14:41] <hisam> but i can connect through wired lan
[14:42] <hisam> iwconfig shows "lo        no wireless extensions.
[14:42] <hisam> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[14:42] <hisam> pan0      no wireless extensions.
[14:42] <hisam> "
[14:42] <FloodBotK2> hisam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <hisam> ok sorry
[14:43] <BluesKaj> hisam, iwconfig won't show anything when you are using eth0
[14:44] <BluesKaj> eth0=wired
[14:44] <hisam> ohh ok
[14:45] <hisam> so now how do i configure ??
[14:46] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | hisam
[14:47] <BluesKaj> hisam, I suggest you try wicd , it worked right away after installing on my laptop
[14:48] <hisam> ok
[14:48] <hisam> so i will have to install iyt
[14:50] <BluesKaj> hisam, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[14:50] <hisam> blueskaj, i did an apt-get
[14:53] <hisam> bleskaj, it says no wireless network found
[14:53] <hisam> bleskaj, should i disconnect eth0
[14:54] <hisam> bleskaj, to find wireless
[14:54] <BluesKaj> hisam, I don't think wicd is in the repos
[14:54] <hisam> blueskaj, i already got it
[14:58] <shockrates> hi
[14:59] <shockrates> when i start kubuntu i first get a tty1 console, after i login. then login manager appears and then i login again to have a gui.
[14:59] <shockrates> how do i fix it
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ok hisam , i didn't realize wicd is in the repos
[15:01] <PaulieWalnuts> hi
[15:01] <PaulieWalnuts> i installed Karmic to a ext4 partition using unetbootin and the iso on drive C:. everything went fine and now i cant boot into it(it doesnt show up in grub menu when the pc starts). my HD setup is : sda1 windows boot part. sda2 drive c: sda3 ext4 for / sda4 swap. i tried chrooting in sda3 and attempted to reinstall grub
[15:01] <PaulieWalnuts>  grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[15:03] <shockrates> PaulieWalnuts: the answer to all your problems is here
[15:03] <shockrates> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:03] <shockrates> look at chroot
[15:03] <xvine> i have  a internal sound card from intel
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | xvine
[15:05] <xvine> thx
[15:09] <PaulieWalnuts> shockrates : followed the steps there but im stuck at
[15:09] <PaulieWalnuts> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-setup -d /sda/boot/grub -m /sda/boot/grub/device.map  /dev/sda
[15:09] <PaulieWalnuts> grub-setup: error: cannot stat /sda/boot/grub/core.img
[15:11] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, have tried just plain , sudo update-grub ?
[15:12] <hisam_> bleskaj, wicd says no wireless networks found
[15:12] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, inside chroot or outside?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> dunno why ppl insist on chroot
[15:12] <BluesKaj> outside
[15:12] <PaulieWalnuts> :D
[15:13] <BluesKaj> hisam_, reboot
[15:13] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub
[15:13] <PaulieWalnuts> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /.
[15:14] <zippy> !seen d9500
[15:14] <hisam_> blueskaj, i did
[15:14] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, you didn't make / active when partitioning , maybe
[15:14] <PaulieWalnuts> ill make it now trough gparted
[15:14] <PaulieWalnuts> maybe i forgot
[15:14] <d9500> zippy, i'm here
[15:15] <zippy> hi
[15:15] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, ill set the partition with the active flag trough gparted is it ok?
[15:15] <d9500> hi. any luck with either config file?
[15:15] <zippy> d9500 i had no live-cd with ext4 :(
[15:15] <BluesKaj> GParted live cd  is the one to use
[15:15] <zippy> so i had to change configs with ssh
[15:15] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, cfdisk from the livecd then?
[15:16] <PaulieWalnuts> or fdisk
[15:16] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, yeah, that should work , but no need to cfdisk
[15:16] <BluesKaj> o4r fdisk
[15:16] <zippy> but its still the same neither of your xorg.confs worked for me
[15:16] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, its ok then with gparted from 9.10 live ?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> gparted live cd , not 9.10 live
[15:17] <PaulieWalnuts> i dont have that
[15:17] <PaulieWalnuts> ill set it active with fdisk
[15:17] <PaulieWalnuts> from livec
[15:17] <PaulieWalnuts> livecd
[15:17] <BluesKaj> well, you can burn it
[15:17] <d9500> zippy, did you install from the repos or using the .run file from nvidia's website?
[15:17] <PaulieWalnuts> i dont have a burner, why did you think i used unetbootin to install karmic ? :D
[15:18] <hisam_> blueskaj, i hv already rebooted
[15:18] <hisam_> bleskaj, still says the same
[15:18] <zippy> d9500 i updated everything from 9.04 over the net
[15:18] <PaulieWalnuts> fuck
[15:19] <PaulieWalnuts> i cant open the drive with fdisk/cfdisk
[15:19] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, sorry i wasn't aware
[15:19] <PaulieWalnuts> maybe cause its mounted
[15:19] <d9500> zippy, bleh. my one experience with updating from previous releases does not make me think updating is superior to a clean install
[15:19] <zippy> d9500 the most annoying is not to have a working shell except ssh
[15:19] <BluesKaj> use gparted on a stick then
[15:19] <PaulieWalnuts> np just help me solve this thing
[15:20] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, no stick available either.. i need to make this partition active trough other means..
[15:20] <zippy> but its formatted to ext4 everything is new
[15:20] <PaulieWalnuts> why doesnt gparted from livecd work well for that?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hisam_, are you trying to open wicd at all or are youjust expecting it to autoconnect
[15:21] <hisam_> blueskaj, i opened it
[15:21] <d9500> zippy, i thought default process for an upgrade didn't chnage existing ext3 filesystems from 9.04 to ext4?
[15:21] <hisam_> only connects to the wired network
[15:21] <hisam_> blueskaj, no wireless networks found
[15:22] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, gparted has it's own live cd , so that's what i recommended , or put the live cd on a bootable usb stick if you want
[15:22] <PaulieWalnuts> i dont have a stick, just told ya
[15:22] <PaulieWalnuts> atm im in a livecd mode
[15:22] <PaulieWalnuts> using unetbootin
[15:22] <BluesKaj> hisam_, you may need to reinstall the driver for your wifi card
[15:23] <zippy> d9500 i think i could choose
[15:23] <hisam_> blueskaj, wifi came built in wit my laptop
[15:23] <PaulieWalnuts> the only solution would be using gparted livecd with unetbootin and booting its iso from drive C: to modify the partition and bootloader configuration. but can i use xchat-gnome then ?
[15:24] <PaulieWalnuts> or any IRC program
[15:24] <PaulieWalnuts> from gparted live cd
[15:24] <d9500> zippy, see if you can at least get a working gui (with terminal emulator) by using the minimal xorg.conf, but removing all but one line in device section. Driver = "vesa"
[15:25] <d9500> i can't help much on why the driver didn't work, i only know that the time that that happened i ended up reinstalling, but maybe someone else can provide better help if you can get a gui or a TTY.
[15:25] <zippy> d9500 no thx im fine pressing esc atm
[15:25] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, well you could try , it should work ..no xchat I'm afraid
[15:26] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, ill just use gparted from the current livecd
[15:26] <Yosafat> GUYS
[15:26] <PaulieWalnuts> its just setting a partitino active, should handle that well
[15:26] <BluesKaj> hisam_, linux driver for wifi
[15:26] <Yosafat> is wine the latest
[15:26] <Yosafat> available for us?
[15:26] <zippy> d9500 there is a bug reported on that so i hope it will be fixed in the near future
[15:28] <Nanug> so
[15:28] <Nanug> NON-TROLLS
[15:28] <Nanug> how do i get the latest wine
[15:28] <Jalamaih> e?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> !winehq
[15:29] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, checked gparted. sda3 (Ext4 / ) is set to bootable
[15:29] <PaulieWalnuts> before i did anything
[15:29] <Jalamaih> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[15:29] <franta> Hi there! What is the proper way of installing eclipse on 9.10? I have tryed installing it from repository, but after that it didn't have any available software site set up which normal eclipse downloaded from eclipse.org does...
[15:29] <d9500> zippy, you're right, could be just a driver or xorg bug. one last thing that might work would be to try to override monitor detection.
[15:29] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, so sda3 is already active
[15:29] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, and you installed grub2 ?
[15:29] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, i just used live install from the live cd and told it to install grub to /dev/sda
[15:30] <PaulieWalnuts> and now no menu entries at boot
[15:30] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, well ,i would have installed grub to / , but that's the simpl e way I guess
[15:31] <zippy> d9500 how is that done?
[15:31] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, just wanted it in mbr, and i got it in mbr. but only shows 2 options. Memory Test and Windows 7(loader)
[15:32] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, you can add windows chainloader in grub.cfg later
[15:32] <PaulieWalnuts> yeah i know
[15:32] <PaulieWalnuts> but what to do now?
[15:32] <yoyo> !virtualizers
[15:33] <yoyo> !kqemu
[15:33] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, mbr is usually installed over grub if i remember correctly
[15:33] <d9500> zippy, http://pastebin.com/d48000815  i pulled the instructions from a different distro's wiki but it should be the same for *buntu. Doubt it will work, but if the driver is taking an inordinately long amount of time to detect the monitor and thereby causing an inactive screen then it's worth a try.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> oops I mean grub is usually installed over mbr
[15:34] <PaulieWalnuts> BluesKaj, grub can either reside on mbr or at the begining of a partition right?
[15:34] <alexander_> i have this problem on ubuntu 9.10: flashing screen google-earth what should i do?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, mbr usually resides under grub afaik in first 512 bits or some such
[15:35] <PaulieWalnuts> ok.
[15:35] <PaulieWalnuts> now
[15:35] <PaulieWalnuts> how the fck do i boot this thing ? :d
[15:36] <PaulieWalnuts> its already installed
[15:36] <PaulieWalnuts> its only one partition for / and one for swap
[15:36] <BluesKaj> PaulieWalnuts, I don't want to put too fine a point on it , because I'm not entirely sure
[15:36] <PaulieWalnuts> damn
[15:37] <DeeTah> my kubuntu netbook install says it can't mount /cow. how to check why?
[15:38] <hisam_> blueskaj, but wen i press on wifi button on my keyboard, some movement happens on d taskbar
[15:38] <DeeTah> :/
[15:38] <BluesKaj> d9500, what nvidia card are you guys discussing ?
[15:39] <hisam_> blueskaj, earlier wit knetwork manager wen i pressed d wifi button the enable wireless thing became active
[15:39] <d9500> BluesKaj,  geforce fx 5600xt
[15:39] <hisam_> blueskaj, still doess that mean ders a prob wit d driver
[15:39] <BluesKaj> hisam_, looks like you need to find the linux drivber for your wifi card
[15:42] <hisam_> blueskaj, will installing wifi-radar help ??
[15:43] <BluesKaj> installing the right linux wifidriver will help , hisam_
[15:45] <DeeTah> http://www.nopaste.pl/hkz
[15:46] <DeeTah> that's what's in casper.log
[15:46] <DeeTah> any ideas what got screwed?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> d9500, remove whatever driver being used and try this, it will install the right driver for the geforce fx 5600xt:  http://www.pastebin.ca/1673588 ,make sure you stop X , as per instructions
[15:48] <d9500> BluesKaj, that's the same method (or similar, i used nvidia's .run file) to get my nvidia card working in ubuntu. not sure if zippy is still here though. you might want to send the same to him
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ok d9500 , guess he left , but it's important that ppl realize installing graphics drivers on top of each other and while X is running doesn't work.
[15:51] <d9500> BluesKaj, i've ran into the same issue trying to explain why you can't load guest extensions in vbox for a *nix machine without dropping to VT, since it installs an X driver and reconfigures xorg.conf.
[15:52] <d9500> dropping to VT and killing the X server*
[15:53] <BluesKaj> yeah, well im not a fan of virtual OS's anyway , still prefer the inconvenience of a dual boot :)
[15:54] <d9500> BluesKaj, yeah, but how do you help someone who's running a *buntu when you're not, and your distro doesn't have exactly the same configuration files and structure, without booting a vm? i find them handy for that
[15:56] <BluesKaj> d9500, what are you running as your main OS ?
[15:56] <d9500> BluesKaj, arch at the moment. talk about culture shock, coming from ubuntu to that one.
[15:57] <BluesKaj> dunno arch, wouldn't install on my HW
[15:59] <d9500> BluesKaj, it runs faster than ubuntu and most of the config can be done from a single file. but one had best be prepared to spend a lot of time at the command line. since there's no default UI, almost all instructions are terminal only
[16:00] <BluesKaj> on what distro is it based ?
[16:02] <d9500> BluesKaj, it's not really based on anything. it uses tar.gz as the package format, kind of like slackware's format but not exactly the same, has a ports system not unlike bsd or gentoo, but is binary based, meaning you don't have to compile unless you want to, or need a package not in the stock repos. the configuration files are largely combined into one file, rc.conf. similar to how freebsd does it, i think.
[16:04] <d9500> BluesKaj, and there's not much of a default install other than the kernel, the gnu tools, and the command line package manager. you build it from the ground up by adding packages and editing config files.
[16:05] <d9500> it's a pain to install but once installed, fairly easy to configure if you know your way around the various config files.
[16:05] <d9500> (which i don't..still learning though)
[16:07] <BluesKaj> d9500, sounds kinda "purist " if you catch my drift :)
[16:07] <PaulieWalnuts> Hey guys.I installed karmic trough unetbootin to a hd partition by booting the iso on drive C: i have sda1 and sda2 windows partitions. sda3 is / ext4 and sda4 is swap.Install went fine. i installed grub to sda, i have it in mbr. now when the pc boots i cant see ubuntu in the list only Memory Test and Windows 7(loader). tried fixing grub with chroot by following documentation on ubuntu website. no use, i still cant boot my install. h
[16:07] <PaulieWalnuts>  elp pls!
[16:09] <d9500> BluesKaj, it's not one i'd recommend as a first distro. but if the idea of a fast, custom built, highly modular distro is appealing to someone, then then should give it a try.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> d9500, I learned with knoppix, slackware, debian , sue , fedora , mandriva etc but finally settled on kubuntu
[16:12] <d9500> BluesKaj, why kubuntu? i've heard several kde fans say that ubuntu's kde implementation isn't as good as opensuse's or mandriva's, for example. in all fairness, the last time i tried it was using kde 4.1, i think it was, so i'm not one to say one way or the other.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> d9500, i had a lot of problems with yum and yast repos on suse and fedora, and the debian repository setup to me is much more stable and easier to configure for personal apps etc
[16:17] <BluesKaj> d9500, I'm running kde4.3.3  without any problems , so kde on ubuntu is a no brainer
[16:17] <d9500> BluesKaj, yeah, and it's hard to beat apt for dependency resolution. is it really true that slackware doesn't have any automatic dependency checking?
[16:17] <d9500> or didn't when you used it?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> i don't recall
[16:18] <BluesKaj> used it for a only short time maybe a month , 6- or 7 yrs ago
[16:18] <BluesKaj>  well d9500  time for my daily constitution (walk)...bb later
[16:19] <d9500> ok, later.
[16:29] <PaulieWalnuts> guys
[16:29] <PaulieWalnuts> wheres the karmic kernel stored
[16:29] <PaulieWalnuts> in the fs
[16:31] <Torch> in karmic i don't get debug output in the shell from kde apps. i turned on all debug areas in kdebugdialog, but that didn't solve that. what else am i missing?
[16:42] <Torch> hmm. "running an app with kdesudo" is apparently another answer... this is not helping.
[16:44] <Torch> ah, turning on all debug areas for root finally fixes that as well.
[16:44] <Torch> thanks all for your help ;-)
[17:16] <Christopher> ja der Felix_ ist ja auch da ^^
[17:16] <Felix_> :P
[17:16] <Christopher> hmm, wo steckt xaver?
[17:16] <genii> !de
[17:17] <Christopher> ok, understood :P
[17:17] <Felix_> ^^
[17:18] <Felix_> :P
[17:18] <ViperTech> da ;)
[17:19] <ViperTech> hi all
[17:20] <Christopher> 320 Users, but no one ist active? :P
[17:20] <Felix_> :D
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !ask | Christopher
[17:22] <tsimpson> restart FloodBotK3
[17:22] <tsimpson> gerr
[17:23] <Christopher> :D
[17:32] <moreno> hola
[17:42] <roKB> !news
[17:44] <yamokidzu-it> lo again
[17:44] <yamokidzu-it> how re-configure kde enviroment setting?
[17:45] <yamokidzu-it> I mean the first window that appears at the first start-up
[17:45] <yamokidzu-it> help
[17:45] <tsimpson> use system settings
[17:45] <tsimpson> everything is in there
[17:46] <yamokidzu-it> but I don't know what change!
[17:47] <yamokidzu-it> tsimpson : I mean re-configure the scrolling bar
[17:47] <tsimpson> look around
[17:51] <mmhg> well I"m stumped....trying to install 9.10 on a 64 bit system with an Nvidia 9800 vid card - can't seem to get the graphical installer to come up.  It just hangs on a black screen although I can access the other tty consoles (f1-f6).  Any ideas how I can get the install to work?
[17:51] <mmhg> tried booting into "try before you buy" mode - same error.  No dice on safe graphics mode or with fb=false either
[17:52] <yamokidzu-it> help !
[17:54] <yamokidzu-it> how reconfigure the scrolling bar of system performance that appeared in the window during the first start-up of kubuntu?
[17:54] <yamokidzu-it> lo amichair
[17:55] <yamokidzu-it> lo ahox
[17:56] <yamokidzu-it> lo Ash-Fox
[17:56] <yamokidzu-it> lo asobi
[17:57] <yamokidzu-it> lo [vali]
[17:57] <tsimpson> yamokidzu-it: stop that
[17:58] <yamokidzu-it> hello?
[17:58] <yamokidzu-it> nobody talking to me
[17:58] <amichair> yamokidzu-it: we asked you nicely to stop that before, and even tried to help. please stop that.
[17:59] <yamokidzu-it> I simply said "hello"
[17:59] <yamokidzu-it> is it so much offensive???
[17:59] <tsimpson> randomly highlighting people is quite rude, don't do it
[18:00] <yamokidzu-it> I don't highlight
[18:00] <yamokidzu-it> :D
[18:00] <tsimpson> when you mention peoples nicks, you do
[18:00] <amichair> yamokidzu-it: if someone knows the answer to your question, they'll answer.
[18:00] <tsimpson> !patience
[18:00] <yamokidzu-it> amichair !patience
[18:01] <yamokidzu-it> XD
[18:01] <tsimpson> last warning to stop that
[18:02] <yamokidzu-it> bar tsimpson XD
[18:02] <tsimpson> I'll consider removing that later
[18:03] <Jonathan__> Hi everyone.
[18:03] <loadus> lo
[18:07] <Jonathan__> today i have a simple question.  In firefox, if i download say a .torrent file, the little download window has a context menu containing "open containing folder."  Once selected this displays the launch application dialog, how do i select dolphin?
[18:08] <tsimpson> Jonathan__: try /usr/bin/dolphin
[18:09] <Jonathan__> thats the one... thanks man
[18:10] <tsimpson> no problem
[18:10] <loadus> Where was the kubuntu developer channel? Was it kubuntu-dev or something similar?
[18:10] <tsimpson> #kubuntu-devel
[18:11] <loadus> cheers
[18:12] <Jonathan__> one more question.  In Ktorrent, i see there is an option for ipfilter.  Where do i get the required file
[18:15] <tsimpson> Jonathan__: where do you see the ipfilter option?
[18:15] <Jonathan__> well i selected the IP Filter plugin, and an IPFilter option has appeared in the file menu
[18:15] <r0ny> ok
[18:16] <loadus> there was one forum message dated Jan 12th 2009 that says: http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/splist.zip
[18:16] <loadus> don't know if it works
[18:16] <tsimpson> that's the default
[18:16] <loadus> ah, it's only a placeholder
[18:17] <loadus> empty zip
[18:18] <loadus> there's a 2.1MB splist @ http://blocklist.googlepages.com/splist.zip
[18:18] <loadus> I'd suspect that's it's a bit old though
[18:19] <tsimpson> Last-Modified: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:17:22 GMT
[18:19] <loadus> lol .. a "bit"
[18:19] <Jonathan__> :) so no one bothers with IP filter?
[18:20] <loadus> no-one's actively maintaining a list
[18:20] <loadus> or at least it seems so
[18:21] <Jonathan__> but none of you guys use an ipfilter?
[18:21] <loadus> not me
[18:23] <Jonathan__> nah i couldnt be assed with it either
[18:33] <rethus> hi there, what is better in kubuntu than in suse ? Why should i change?
[18:37] <rethus> mhh, thats pretty much arguments... i didn't know which of all of them is the best :p
[18:37] <loadus> Try it out and see what works for you and what doesn't. :)
[18:38] <loadus> Can't say for myself - haven't tried suse
[18:38] <Lain_> #jeuxlinux.fr
[18:39] <rethus> ﻿loadus: but aren't there some importent features which make kubuntu better than suse?
[18:40] <Tm_T> rethus: Kubuntu has always newest KDE one way or another
[18:40] <yofel> well, the main differences are going to be the underlying system since both use kde
[18:41] <Tm_T> also it's much more closer to "vanilla" KDE than opensuse equivalent
[18:41] <yofel> there would be the different package system (DPKG - RPM)
[18:41] <|moe|> rethus: upstart is something suse doesn't have
[18:41] <loadus> rethus: Well, for me it was important to have a similar UI to windows, so I could find my way around.
[18:42] <|moe|> rethus: bus suse has a very fine kde-integration of firefox and openoffice. that's what i am missing here on kubuntu
[18:42] <rethus> ﻿Tm_T: sounds good
[18:43] <Tm_T> rethus: but in my mind biggest difference is Ubuntu community, there's no other like ours
[18:47] <rethus> ﻿Tm_T: whats with config-tools for firewall and so on... suse has yast... whats on kubuntu
[18:47] <Tm_T> !firewall
[18:48] <Tm_T> rethus: in general, users doesn't need to fiddle with firewall, although good tool for that is always good
[18:58] <aivalli> hi
[18:58] <UbuntuTree> hi
[18:59] <aivalli> I installed 'kde4' over a standard ubuntu installation
[18:59] <aivalli> desktop I mean
[18:59] <UbuntuTree> Having issues?
[18:59] <aivalli> my network manager is not working fine
[18:59] <UbuntuTree> What is the error
[19:00] <aivalli> I read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/356517
[19:00] <UbuntuTree> Taking a look
[19:00] <aivalli> I know that article deals with ARM while I am  on intel - I tried the ideas
[19:00] <aivalli> so I did a lahal
[19:01] <aivalli> the output shows up as my mac address and not the manufacturer's name
[19:01] <aivalli> and the ethernet card that I use is the second one not the first as it has a  driver issue
[19:02] <aivalli> the knetworkmanager just shows a 'red cross'
[19:02] <UbuntuTree> can you have a log file I can take a look? or the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[19:02] <aivalli> that is the 'error'
[19:03] <aivalli> ok so what logs you want syslog or messages ?
[19:03] <UbuntuTree> I would go with the syslog
[19:05] <UbuntuTree> Are you trying to  use static IP or DHCP?
[19:05] <aivalli> lshal is here http://pastebin.com/d54eed762
[19:05] <aivalli> DHCP
[19:05] <UbuntuTree> Just a sec
[19:06] <aivalli> oh and I *should* mention that my network does absolutely fine ! it is only the network manager part that is broken
[19:08] <aivalli> I just saw syslog - it has no references to anything to do with network - if you still want to see I will upload it
[19:09] <aivalli> UbuntuTree: ?
[19:09] <loadus> patience ;)
[19:09] <aivalli> okai ! :-)
[19:10] <UbuntuTree> Still here, your file is very long, I am going through it
[19:12] <aivalli> also just to mention I am on Hardy - dist-upgrade not an option right now
[19:12] <UbuntuTree> k
[19:14] <loadus> aivalli: what version of the manager are you using? (just curious)
[19:16] <aivalli> checking
[19:18] <aivalli> 0.6.6.0ubuntu5.8.04.2 is hte version number as reported by adept_manager
[19:18] <UbuntuTree> aivalli are you using IPv6 or IPv4?
[19:18] <aivalli> ipV4
[19:19] <aivalli> BRB a few mins
[19:19] <UbuntuTree> k
[19:36] <aivalli> Back
[19:37] <aivalli> :( ubuntutree left - while I was away!
[19:42] <nado> hi
[19:42] <nado> any idea why kopete won't sort my contact list, no matter which setting (name, status, manually) i choose?
[19:43] <kadoban> i'm having problems with sound in 9.10.  it seems to work fine in KDE applications (amarok), but not in GTK applications (rhythmbox, flash plugin of firefox).  any ideas what could cause that or how to fix?
[19:43] <kadoban> in GTK apps, i hear a "pop" kind of, then nothing
[19:44] <nado> nobody?
[19:46] <loadus> aivalli: check that you have the latest manager, I'm seeing that I have 0.8 installed, but I'm not sure if I'm reading the version numbers correctly + if I have the same manager as you.
[19:47] <aivalli> ok looking to see how I can go about doing it
[19:49] <anoneemouse> hello. I am installing ubuntu from a flash drive and it got stuck at configuring apt... so i clicked skipped and then it said installer crashed
[19:49] <loadus> nado: not sure what's causing it not to work at your end, working fine here
[19:49] <anoneemouse> does this mean kubuntu is installed or is it a messed up install now
[19:50] <nado> loadus: it worked for me, too. but at some point, for some reason, it stopped...
[19:51] <loadus> anoneemouse: if it boots and works, it's installed - if it doesn't boot, it's probably messed up a bit
[19:51] <anoneemouse> what im wondering is whether the installer is finished at that point
[19:51] <anoneemouse> im on the flash drive version now
[19:51] <anoneemouse> think i should try it?
[19:51] <loadus> go ahead, it won't blow up your computer or anything .. I think.
[19:52] <anoneemouse> ok
[19:52] <anoneemouse> brb.... i hope
[19:53] <kadoban> okay, i notice that when i try to "Test" the PulseAudio device sound in System Settings -> Multimedia, it gives the same pop and doesn't work, but the highest device works fine (HDA NVidia (ALC1200 Analog))
[19:54] <kadoban> so are GTK apps using PulseAudio or whatever?  can i just get rid of that and have them use something else instead?
[19:54] <loadus> kadoban: move the working device to the highest in the list (on all pages)
[19:54] <kadoban> loadus: it is
[19:55] <kadoban> loadus: in case you missed my first message a few minutes back, sound works fine in KDE/Qt apps, but not in GTK
[19:55] <loadus> have you searched from the forums? I remember stumbling on lot of threads about audio issues on Intel (and other) HD audio systems
[19:55] <loadus> yeh, I had the same problem with my Terratec card
[19:56] <loadus> it's now at the point where the sound doesn't work on Dragon player / Amarok but works on everything else
[19:56] <kadoban> loadus: hmm, i searched a bit but nothing looked promising.   oh, do you happen to recall at all what you did to fix it?  the weird thing is that it's worked before, but i reset my computer a few days back and now it doens't...
[19:56] <kadoban> ah
[19:57] <loadus> I remember uninstalling everything pulseaudio related and that fixed a lot of other issues (WINE didn't have sound etc), but I wouldn't recommend that
[19:57] <loadus> it worked on MY card, it might not work on your card + it might fubar your system
[19:57] <kadoban> i see.  well, i'll try that if i don't find something else i guess
[19:58] <kadoban> stupid sound problems...never did understand completely how sound works in linux, not sure anyone else does either
[19:59] <loadus> well, I think the biggest issue is the hardware manufacturers who keep a tight lid on how their chips are supposed to work
[19:59] <kadoban> ya, doesn't help
[20:02] <anoneemouse> hello again... im back in my old installation... i mounted the drive the new installation created and everything is there
[20:02] <anoneemouse> but i couldnt boot into it
[20:02] <anoneemouse> so i assume it never installed the boot loader
[20:03] <loadus>  you're installing from a USB memorystick, right?
[20:07] <miglo> hello, I've successfully added a symbol to the taskbar but would also have one to easily shutdown the pc. is this somehow possible?
[20:07] <kadoban> am i correct in thinking that gtk apps will use PulseAudio and KDE apps don't?  i've been googling for a while but nobody even says.  then my problem would just be getting pulseaudio working, or tricking apps into not using it somehow
[20:09] <loadus> kadoban: on my card each program opens a free hardware channel to use (my card uses some twisted form of ASIO to manage outputs)
[20:09] <loadus> it might be that it just picks an output that's muted on the mixer / is not mapped for output
[20:10] <kadoban> loadus: i thought that both kde and gnome had sound servers that mediated that at this point? no?
[20:10] <loadus> pulseaudio does that now, but at least on my card that didn't work, since the Aureon Space card changes it's sampling rate according to the source playing
[20:11] <loadus>  so if I listened to some youtube video and played an mp3 after it, the mp3 would be silent
[20:11] <kadoban> loadus: so pulseaudio is used in kde as well, for qt apps?
[20:12] <loadus> I think so, I'm not that knowledgeable about pulseaudio's inner workings
[20:12] <Guest13906> hello everybody... sorry, but 2nite if my 1st time on mirc... how can I change my nickname? is /nick new_nick?
[20:12] <loadus> wow that was a hard word to spell
[20:13] <loadus> Guest13906: hello, try it out, and try the settings of the IRC client you are using
[20:13] <m4rtin> Guest13906: yep /nick new_nick
[20:13] <loadus> (I'm an IRC n00b myself, can't help much on the commands)
[20:13] <Guest13906> ok, cheers
[20:14] <m4rtin> kadoban: I use pulseaudio under KDE and it worked fine in karmic immediately after install
[20:15] <loadus> kadoban: I destroyed my audio, when I upgraded from 9.04 --> 9.10. Then did a clean install and pulseaudio worked on the liveCD, but didn't' work after install...
[20:16] <kadoban> loadus: i see.  i also upgraded from 9.04
[20:16] <volodya> in 9.10, can I control the name of directory under /media that is created for USB drive?
[20:16] <kadoban> m4rtin: any ideas what to check if it doesn't work?  it appears to be basically completely broken for me
[20:16] <volodya> in 8.04, it was customizable fore sure
[20:18] <kadoban> great, now after changing nothing it works.  this is going to be fun to figure out
[20:19] <loadus> kadoban: patience, on my card it takes a few seconds to change settings
[20:20] <loadus> kadoban: and check if your programs are using custom outputs in their settings/preferences
[20:20] <loadus> just in case
[20:21] <loadus> volodya: the mount stuff is probably done in fstab
[20:21] <kadoban> loadus: alright, thanks.  i guess i'll have to wait till next reboot...can't get it to break now
[20:22] <volodya> loadus: for removable drives?
[20:22] <loadus> volodya: but it's correct, there's no UI for the same config options that were in KDE3
[20:22] <volodya> oh, boo.
[20:22] <loadus>  aye
[20:22] <rakuen> Hi! My kubuntu doesn't remember my screen settings, so every time I start my OS I must redo them. The annoying is that my screen mode isn't listed by default, so I must --addnew and --addmode with xrandr every time. How can I set this permantent? Thanks
[20:23] <IulianISI> Hi
[20:23] <IulianISI> I have a laptop DELL Inspiron 6400 with a ATI X1400 video card.
[20:23] <IulianISI> I've tried different approaches described on several forums but nothing is working properly. Now i have installed on my laptop the Radeon driver and i have some graphical acceleration but is working slow and the resolution is stucked at 1024x768.
[20:23] <IulianISI> I booted from the CD loads and everything worked fine and the ATI graphics acceleration worked really well.
[20:23] <IulianISI> How can i make it work like that on my installed version?
[20:23] <FloodBotK3> IulianISI: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <loadus> rakuen: what videocard are you using?
[20:25] <rakuen> loadus: Intel GMA 950
[20:28] <volodya> loadus: dancing around with e2label did work, fwiw
[20:29] <loadus> volodya: I'm reading a lot of problems with GMA 500, but haven't found stuff for 950 .. have you edited your xorg.conf [warning on that, edit only, when you know what you are doing] to force your fav resolution?
[20:30] <rakuen> loadus: where do I find xorg.conf? (it's not located in /etc/X11/)
[20:31] <loadus> rakuen: lol wut
[20:31] <rakuen> I am almost sure, I'll check again
[20:31] <volodya> loadus: was that question actually for me, or for rakuen? I have 945, and the resolution is detected fine.
[20:32] <rakuen> yeah, it's not there. I searched for it when I first had this problem.
[20:32] <volodya> although kdm->kde resolution switch is ugly
[20:32] <loadus> rakuen: well my knowledge ends right there - X should have at least some default xorg.conf - is there anything xorg related, ie. xorg.conf.backup?
[20:32] <rakuen> volodya: my resolution is detected fine too, but since the screen mode I want to use isn't listed by default, it doesn't work.
[20:32] <loadus> lol, getting mixed up here, sry for that
[20:33] <volodya> rakuen: do you want to use a mode that monitor does not announce?
[20:33] <rakuen> volodya: yes. I do this via xrandr, but when I restart the computer, the mode has dissappeard
[20:34] <rakuen> loadus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/320270/
[20:34] <loadus> volodya: yeh, sorry, my question was for rakuen :P
[20:34] <wdslbrfe> hi, how to start a openvpn session using kde networkmanager?
[20:35] <rakuen> loadus: I reinstalled my linux yesterday, used the new download from kubuntus homepade (9.10)
[20:36] <loadus> rakuen: that X----> /usr/bin/Xorg might mean that your xorg.conf can be found there? Not sure though, someone wiser on X stuff might help better.
[20:37] <rakuen> bash: cd: /usr/bin/Xorg: Not a directory, but there is a /usr/bin/X11 (with a load of files)
[20:37] <AlexZion> hi everyone, I have audio problem in Kubuntu Karmic , after the login sound ,it doesn't play any other audio ...
[20:38] <rakuen> "/usr/bin/Xorg" may be a binary file.  See it anyway?
[20:39] <loadus> rakuen: probably no, xorg.conf is the thing that you most likely need
[20:39] <loadus> search?
[20:39] <rakuen> I don't know how to search files :'C
[20:40] <loadus> rakuen: find command, if I remember correctly :D - but you can fire up dolphin (the file manager) and search using that
[20:41] <loadus> rakuen: I meant "find" -command
[20:42] <rakuen> it's searching
[20:43] <rakuen> loadus: find | grep xorg.conf gives me a single output: ./usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz
[20:43] <loadus> that's the help manual
[20:44] <rakuen> I don't seem to have a xorg.conf file? I'll read the manual
[20:44] <loadus> something's had your xorg.conf for lunch
[20:44] <rakuen> sorry, how do I read the manual?
[20:44] <loadus> must've been a tasty burger
[20:44] <loadus> man <topic>
[20:45] <rakuen> loadus: "Kubuntu 9.10 uses xorg 1.6.3 which does not need a config file by default." from pythian.com
[20:46] <rakuen> one thing is for sure, I do not know how to creat a new xorg.conf file, it would be alot easier to modify one.
[20:51] <Hatl> hi! is it possible to change the initial view of aptitude to "New Flat Package List"?
[20:55] <kristina> hi, if suse can fit firefox on the kde cd, why can't kubuntu? :)
[21:00] <rstob911> i have found this time around that kubuntu must finally have some good devs cause i was able to install and configure with minimal effort nice job guys
[21:01] <Tm_T> rstob911: good to hear all went fine, and yes we have good developers, always had
[21:02] <rstob911> this is the real first time i have found kde4 to accually work right
[21:03] <Scunizi> loadus: rakuen xorg.conf doesn't exist anymore.. unless there is something drastically different in kubuntu vs ubuntu.. it's now handled by xrandr
[21:03] <rstob911> no broken packages this time around that is great
[21:03] <rakuen> loadus: I found all my answers at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions, volodya, I don't know what problem you had (if any) but maybe this will help you.
[21:03] <loadus> Scunizi: That's good to know - might help on some issues I've had myself on my card, thx
[21:04] <Scunizi> loadus: np.. just when a lot of us are getting use to manually modifing xorg.conf it disappears.. xrandr looks to be "easier" but you have to find the docs to use it..
[21:05] <rakuen> configfiles for screens is found here: ~/.xprofile (executed in late startup) and /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup for pre-startup
[21:11] <KentukyN> I've been running mint on my laptop for a while now and want to try out kubuntu so I installed it to dual boot. Is there a way I can access my mint files from kubuntu without having to make a new partition to put them in?
[21:12] <mfraz74> how have you set up mint?
[21:13] <KentukyN> default all the way
[21:13] <mfraz74> how many partitions?
[21:13] <KentukyN> one for kubuntu, one for xp, one for mint, and one swap
[21:14] <KentukyN> I remember being able to just go up my file tree with a previous machine, but it doesn't seem to want to mount 'filesystem' when I go through dolphin
[21:15] <mfraz74> if the user on kubuntu and mint have the same id, you should be able to access them by mounting the mint partition
[21:16] <KentukyN> okay. Looks like I was just looking in the kubuntu root folder instead of my whole hd.
[21:16] <KentukyN> working now, thanks
[21:20] <puff> Anyone home?  Can we gracefully remove the KDE stuff from a box and revert back to using gnome?
[21:21] <maco> !puregnome | puff
[21:21] <puff> It appaers that kdm and gdm are fighting and messing up xdmcp in the process.
[21:21] <puff> maco:  Thanks.
[21:21] <maco> np
[21:22] <puff> Wait, that removes all !KDE packageS?
[21:22] <maco> aye
[21:22] <puff> In programming, ! is normally a negator.
[21:22] <maco> should
[21:22] <maco> since ahhh
[21:22] <maco> no no thats for the bot
[21:22] <maco> !KDE
[21:22] <FloodBotK3> maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:22] <puff> Okay :-)".
[21:23] <puff> Thanks again.
[21:23] <maco> np
[21:23] <maco> that ! just tells you teh bot has a factoid for it
[21:24] <puff> Gotcher.
[21:25] <puff> Lemme see, there should be some way to check if he's installed anything else that depends on the kde libs.
[21:26] <puff> If he has other KDE-dependent apps that he needs to keep, is there anything he can do other than removing kde and the dependent apps, and then reinstalling the dependent apps?
[21:27] <miko> does anyone know how to use ssh on sidekick 2008 to work on ubuntu
[21:34] <Luggage> hey all, I got a collection of files with an illegal character in the filename (é, displayed as ?) Ie been renaming then using find -inum <number> -exec mv newfilename {} \;  which works fine just it's a lot of files (200) and im not feeling like spending the rest of my evening renaming in the console. anyoen got a better, perhaps semi automated solution?
[21:35] <Luggage> I've* them* anyone*
[21:36] <llutz> Luggage: maybe convmv will be helpful
[21:36] <Luggage> convmv ok looking for more info on it, thanks :)
[21:37] <duffyd> hi, I'm using a sony vaio laptop with a 802.11abgn/Intel/HMC_1x2 wireless nic and can't get it to work under karmic
[21:38] <duffyd> appears to be detected but when using networkmanager it just won't connect to my AP
[21:39] <Luggage> is the ssid hidden ?
[21:39] <duffyd> funny thing is using wicd and networkmanager it'll display some APs of my neighbours but even when I enter the essid of my AP still won't connect
[21:39] <duffyd> yeah it is
[21:39] <duffyd> it did connect under jaunty
[21:39] <duffyd> but when under high network load would fall over
[21:40] <duffyd> according to this blog post, it should work now: http://vaioubuntu.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-beta/
[21:40] <duffyd> as I know that the networking has had some improvements
[21:40] <duffyd> but not in my case :(
[21:40] <Luggage> the only way I got wireless to use the hidden ap at my momś place was to manually put the info in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:40] <duffyd> really
[21:40] <duffyd> that's sad
[21:40] <Luggage> or unhide it and use decent encryption (wpa(2))
[21:41] <duffyd> wicd does appear to be better
[21:41] <duffyd> well under jaunty anyway
[21:41] <duffyd> but not karmic
[21:41] <Luggage> I really need to write down how I did it so I can help peeps with this question when Im at home on my own wired pc
[21:41] <duffyd> I'm not using any encryption on my AP
[21:41] <duffyd> but that shouldn't have an effect right?
[21:41] <Luggage> don know from the top of my head how the interfaces file looks at the desktop at my moms :(
[21:42] <Luggage> no, it was just a suggestion if you go for unhiding it to solve the connection issue then protection might be useful ;)
[21:42] <jacob_> hello, i have a question about network management
[21:42] <llutz> duffyd: wasn't there a filed bug with knetworkmanager + hidden ssids?
[21:43] <jacob_> how do I get the knetworkmanager to load my static ip settings by default, and not after I click on them?
[21:43] <duffyd> llutz: oh really?
[21:43] <Luggage> yes I think so llutz
[21:43] <Luggage> i had probs with 9.04 at mom
[21:43] <Luggage> 's
[21:43] <duffyd> ok sweet
[21:43] <duffyd> I'll do that then
[21:43] <llutz> and, btw, hiding ssids isn't a security feature at all
[21:43] <Luggage> but works fine if you fill in the info in the interfaces file
[21:44] <Luggage> something like iface wlan0 inet dhcp ; wireless-essid <name> ; auto wlan0
[21:44] <duffyd> llutz: aye, I'm lazy
[21:44] <duffyd> and stupid I know
[21:45] <Luggage> nah stupid people don bother to ask questions and learn ;)
[21:45] <duffyd> lol
[21:45] <duffyd> my issue was due to my wife's machine having issues with encrypted wifi
[21:45] <duffyd> she's on an ancient kubuntu version
[21:45] <Luggage> ps im a linux noob myself (dont like the word noob though)
[21:45] <duffyd> Luggage: ;)
[21:46] <Luggage> brb time to make some coffee
[21:50] <criss> hi all i need help please, is there anyone in here who has setup a full linux network yet?
[21:51] <criss> i am new to ubuntu and linux
[21:52] <deepd> hi all
[21:52] <kaustinjh> hello
[21:52] <criss> hi all
[21:52] <criss> anyone in here an experienced linux user?
[21:53] <kaustinjh> yes but this is my first time on Kubuntu. Been using ubuntu since 6.04
[21:54] <rerushg> crisis: what do you need?
[21:54] <kaustinjh> I'm feeling somewhere betwwen a child in a candy store and a noob all over again.
[21:55] <criss> kewl kaustinjh i am new to ubuntu but i am loving it .. i found an old 6.06 cd and installed and jaa now i upgraded to 8.04 sooo ... i want to implepent a full on linux network using ubuntu
[21:55] <criss> so now this is where you help me ...
[21:57] <kaustinjh> well I have done a few interesting things with Linux over the past few years. I'm working on the new eucalyptus cloud at work.
[21:57] <D-coy> joo la m4v x)
[21:57] <Ricardo5> Hay alguien que me de una mano para instalar kubuntu 9.10 netbook en una acer one d250
[21:58] <D-coy> Ricardo5, /join #kubuntu-es
[21:58] <kaustinjh> criss, where are you setting up your network> work or home?
[21:58] <D-coy> aver si no te dan ban :P
[21:59] <Ricardo5> alguien sabe el porque al querer instalar kubuntu 9.10 netbook en una acer one d250 la instalacion se pone muy lenta y debo cancelar
[22:02] <Ricardo5> alguien sabe el porque al querer instalar kubuntu 9.10 netbook en una acer one d250 la instalacion se pone muy lenta y debo cancelar
[22:02] <jacob_> hello
[22:03] <jacob_> does anyone know how to edit the "Auto eth0" settings in knetworkmanager?
[22:03] <guitar431> !esp
[22:04] <jacob_> anyone? can I at least get a no from someone so I know there's people out there?
[22:05] <jacob_> hello, is anyone paying attention?
[22:06] <adaptr> whut ?
[22:08] <amichair> !es | Ricardo5
[22:22] <guitar431> what do i have to do to get my 3d graphics card working. Each time i use the kubuntu system to install the driver kde crashes after reboot.
[22:23] <guitar431> Do you guys know an installation guide? Web page would be cool :)
[22:26] <jessejazza> Yes... but you may not like it
[22:27] <guitar431> hm
[22:31] <jessejazza> Put it this way. I have loved *buntu for almost three years. But i've got very annoyed at some of the things they do with a new version. The display thing is disgraceful as Fedora seem to have got it sorted. I've given up on 6 month release distros. I've much to thank *buntu for. Afraid i've been smitten by Mepis - i wanted to say with apt package management and Mepis, Gentoo, Arch, debian was the options left. I'm not
[22:31] <jessejazza> sorry either. I wish *buntu did an annual release and sorted it properly
[22:32] <maco> 9.10 was meant to have all crazy new stuff so itd get extra testing before 10.04
[22:32] <maco> so that 10.04 can be well-tested and stable
[22:32] <maco> that 9.10 would be rather experimental was decided early on
[22:33] <jessejazza> Yes i've gathered that... but no one has ever said as such. I did update with the April version after 7.04
[22:33] <jessejazza> Where does it say that october versions were experimental
[22:42] <Scunizi> jessejazza: it never says that.. It's just that between LTS releases ubuntu tries new things, technologies etc.. they are not always stable.. and usually the release before an LTS has more issues for more people.
[22:45] <Scunizi> 6.06 LTS (pretty good) ... 6.10 (ok but nothing to write home about) ... 7.04 (some hated) ... 7.10 (never tried because of stability reports) ... 8.04 LTS (still solid on my laptop) .. 8.10 (I liked) ... 9.04 (only ran it in a VM.. worked fine) .. 9.10 (breakage for some, sweet harmony for others)
[23:02] <lukas> Scunizi: Does anyone here know about significant performance decrease on KK (caused by mutex locks perhaps)?
[23:03] <transit> hi!
[23:03] <Hb_Kai> ho
[23:06] <m4v> alias dtc /dt; /buffer close
[23:06] <m4v> sry
[23:27] <Scunizi> lukas: sorry I don't
[23:40] <Zensursula> Hi! Anyone an idea on freezing after satrx ?
[23:40] <Zensursula> satertx
[23:40] <Zensursula> startx
[23:50] <lukas> Zensursula: some details?
[23:52] <Zensursula> karmic 9.10 was running - no updates - next time it started it rn to the point where X starts it hangs - only rebootable by Hard reset
[23:52] <lukas> Zensursula: could you use Caps Lock?
[23:52] <lukas> is mouse moving?
[23:52] <larry_laramies> HEY, ITS MUCH EASIER TO TYPE NOW!
[23:52] <lukas> nvidia/ati ...?
[23:53] <Zensursula> nothing moves at all
[23:53] <lukas> can you paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:53] <larry_laramies> INTEL 955gM
[23:53] <lukas> Zaiden: and /home/<you>/.xsession-errors
[23:54] <Zensursula> can't get it right noe. Installing Debian on an extra partition
[23:54] <Zensursula> baut it is default "VESA"
[23:55] <lukas> no problem, get console (alt+F2, resp 3 ..) and mount it for reading
[23:55] <Zaiden> wha
[23:56] <lukas> Zaiden: hello, wha wuat?
[23:57] <Zaiden> You said my name along with and /home/<you>/.xsession-errors
[23:58] <ubuntu> hi
[23:58] <lukas> Zaiden: yes
[23:58] <lukas> I do not know what is your home dir
[23:59] <Zaiden> I think you got me mixed uo with Zensursula
[23:59] <lukas> oh yes, sorry
[23:59] <Zensursula> I'll test it with Debian and KDE on top
[23:59] <lukas> quite tired here :-)