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Flannelhuayra: I don't want to walk all the way over here...23:08
huayraneither do I23:08
huayrabut do we have a choice? ;)23:08
FlannelIt's 11 channels over, my pinky hurts.  Are we there yet?23:08
huayrayeah23:09
huayrafor me it's only 423:10
huayraFlannel, the licensing23:10
AliTabuger7hi23:11
huayrahi AliTabuger7 23:11
AliTabuger7Do you think we got any closer to getting the domain? The canonical guy didn't seem to helpful.23:11
huayraIt was Jono23:11
dpiclol23:12
huayraand I have at least 5 people within Canonical/Community council nagging at him already the last 3 weeks23:12
huayraI think he has got the message23:12
huayrawell... I hope ;)23:12
AliTabuger7but is he the guy we need?23:12
huayraTo be honest I don't believe Canonical is too keen on giving the domain to us as long as the site is hosted outside their site23:13
huayrabut nobody is saying it23:13
huayraBUt I got that impression from MAtthew (ubuntu.com webmaster)23:13
huayraHe seemed to be keen, but it doesn't help...23:14
huayraanyway23:14
AliTabuger7i don't care where its hosted23:14
huayraneither do I23:14
huayraas long as we can make changes23:14
AliTabuger7newz thought the drupal version was still out of date23:14
huayrawe should probably make a 0.2 announcement or something23:15
huayraI wish we had talked more about this marketing kits and how we can produce them23:15
huayrabut we might be able to clarify that in the meeting next week23:16
huayrawe'll see...23:16
Flannelhuayra: spreadubuntu.com might be nicer than spread.ubuntu.com actually23:16
AliTabuger7they can do both23:16
huayraindeed23:16
AliTabuger7i like spreadubuntu.org the best23:16
huayrawe are aiming at spreadubuntu.com and spreadubuntu.org23:16
AliTabuger7but we can have com and spread. both redirect to .org23:17
huayraand even spread.ubuntu.com23:17
huayraas long as we get one of them23:17
huayrathe other redirections should be trivial really23:17
huayraFlannel, do you have faith in a Marketing Team revival as a group?23:19
huayraI believe we could get a lot more done by implementing good marketing processes23:19
huayrawhich means: making a platform for LoCos to target their market23:19
huayrabut that has to be thought out propertly23:20
Flannelhuayra: What I'd like to see is some things where we collaborate on a global scale to make materials, instead of a localish one.  Artwork is one thing, *words* are another.23:21
FlannelHaving some sources of good copy (I think that's what it's called) would be nice23:22
huayracan you please explain a bit more Flannel 23:22
huayra:) I really want to hear more about that idea23:22
Flannelwell, like for my CD sleeves, all the text on there is borrowed from the official CD sleeves23:23
Flannelthe rev2 that's in the works isn't quite so much, and really, some of the wording is what's holding it up at 95% finished right now23:23
FlannelWe can do artwork as a community well, and we have been.  But having a large repository of just text that I can copy/paste for flyers or brochures, or whatever, would make the creation of that stuff easier23:24
Flannel"I need a paragraph that covers X and Y"  "oh, here's one, hmm, a little too long, lets cut out that sentence"23:24
Flannelinstead of "what do we want to say about X and Y?"  "alright, lets now revise it a few times"23:25
huayraThat's the way I use to work with my marketing colleagues23:26
FlannelThat's one of the 'major' problems I've had when creating these things. (It's not a super big problem, but its what takes up most of the time)23:26
huayrawhat would such an activity be called? Text editos?23:27
huayra*editors23:27
FlannelWe usually fire up gobby and start by coming up with what topics we want to cover, and then writing sentences and combining them and culling bad stuff, etc.23:27
FlannelThis could all happen under SU too, instead of svgs and pngs and stuff, we just upload text documents, etc23:28
huayrasee... You have a workflow that works. We need to document that and make that info available to other LoCos23:28
huayraor AMrketing contacts interested in helping out23:28
FlannelIf we get into the tagging stuff with drupal, it'd be a lot easier to categorize and expand into new things like this23:28
huayrayeah, that could be an idea23:28
FlannelYeah, it's something we can limp by doing, but i'm sure marketing people can churn it out much faster than we can23:28
huayraAliTabuger7, any thoughts on how we could implement that?23:28
Flanneljust like I can design electronics faster than they can.23:28
huayracertainly... I had a colleague which would always magically turn what I wrote into something really eatable marketing-wise23:29
FlannelFrom what we said before (mind you, I don't do drupal), moving to a tagged set of content sounded doable, instead of strictly defined categories with an "other" category23:29
FlannelThose same paragraphs/tidbits could easily be turned into presentations and other stuff too.23:30
Flannelbut moving into a more "freeform" site would probably allow this stuff to happen much easier (certainly without administrator interaction), so *we* don't have to think about every possible way it can be used.  It'll be used however the users can find ways to use it.23:31
huayraFlannel, that is true. And we could present SU in a more Web 2.0ish fashion with a cloud of tags in the side or something23:32
huayrapeople love that23:32
FlannelMakes it easier for the admin people and the users23:32
Flannelhuayra: I'm allergic to two point oh, but yes.23:32
huayrathe Pyhton thingy you once propossed?23:32
huayraor a wiki ?23:32
FlannelNo, the tag based thing23:32
huayraFlannel, is just a way of talking.. It's hype. you know...23:32
huayraOh23:32
Flannelhuayra: I'm allergic to hype :)23:33
huayraI am too, but at work I am all in for hype (I work with Marketing&Sales)23:33
huayra;)23:33
FlannelThat python thing would've been a way to sync with a bazaar branch,23:33
* huayra adapts to *any* situation23:33
huayrayeah23:33
FlannelI'm not sure it'd be worthwhile23:33
huayrabut it seems that SU solved that23:34
huayraas it is23:34
FlannelYeah23:34
huayrawe have some revisioning which seems sufficient now23:34
huayradpic, regarding the language detection: Do you think that it would be a good idea to get that information from LaunchPad instead of using the browser settings?23:35
huayrait would certainly make it all feel more cloudish (My language preferences anywhere as long as you use the LP OpenID, which SU does use by default)23:35
huayraFlannel, could you please elaborate that Tag idea in our idea pool?23:36
huayrahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu/IdeaPool23:36
huayraI can do it if you are not keen23:36
dpichuayra: yeah, perhaps falling back on the browser setting23:37
huayraAliTabuger7, have you checked what options the Ubuntu-Drupal Launchpad module gives regarding getting data from LP?23:37
Flannelhuayra: Erm... I don't mind doing it, but I'm not sure where I'd put it.23:38
huayrathe wiki :)23:40
huayrahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu/IdeaPool23:40
huayrajust make a new idea23:40
huayrayou can use the idea Teamplate or just put up the idea there23:40
huayraFlannel :)23:41

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