[19:55] <guigouz> plop ?
[20:05] <Guest89861> y'a t-il des français sur ce chan ?
[21:56] <dpic> meeting in #ubuntu-uds-presidente in 25 mins
[22:22] <dpic> meeting now in #ubuntu-uds-presidente
[22:23] <dpic> video stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/uds-lucid-1st-day
[22:23] <dpic> audio stream: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/presidente.ogg.m3u
[22:28] <munich> join #ubuntu-uds- presidente
[22:29] <dpic> munich: already told them =]
[22:31] <quesh> join #ubuntu-uds-presidente
[22:31] <quesh> oups
[22:31] <dpic> lol
[23:08] <Flannel> huayra: I don't want to walk all the way over here...
[23:08] <huayra> neither do I
[23:08] <huayra> but do we have a choice? ;)
[23:08] <Flannel> It's 11 channels over, my pinky hurts.  Are we there yet?
[23:09] <huayra> yeah
[23:10] <huayra> for me it's only 4
[23:10] <huayra> Flannel, the licensing
[23:11] <AliTabuger7> hi
[23:11] <huayra> hi AliTabuger7 
[23:11] <AliTabuger7> Do you think we got any closer to getting the domain? The canonical guy didn't seem to helpful.
[23:11] <huayra> It was Jono
[23:12] <dpic> lol
[23:12] <huayra> and I have at least 5 people within Canonical/Community council nagging at him already the last 3 weeks
[23:12] <huayra> I think he has got the message
[23:12] <huayra> well... I hope ;)
[23:12] <AliTabuger7> but is he the guy we need?
[23:13] <huayra> To be honest I don't believe Canonical is too keen on giving the domain to us as long as the site is hosted outside their site
[23:13] <huayra> but nobody is saying it
[23:13] <huayra> BUt I got that impression from MAtthew (ubuntu.com webmaster)
[23:14] <huayra> He seemed to be keen, but it doesn't help...
[23:14] <huayra> anyway
[23:14] <AliTabuger7> i don't care where its hosted
[23:14] <huayra> neither do I
[23:14] <huayra> as long as we can make changes
[23:14] <AliTabuger7> newz thought the drupal version was still out of date
[23:15] <huayra> we should probably make a 0.2 announcement or something
[23:15] <huayra> I wish we had talked more about this marketing kits and how we can produce them
[23:16] <huayra> but we might be able to clarify that in the meeting next week
[23:16] <huayra> we'll see...
[23:16] <Flannel> huayra: spreadubuntu.com might be nicer than spread.ubuntu.com actually
[23:16] <AliTabuger7> they can do both
[23:16] <huayra> indeed
[23:16] <AliTabuger7> i like spreadubuntu.org the best
[23:16] <huayra> we are aiming at spreadubuntu.com and spreadubuntu.org
[23:17] <AliTabuger7> but we can have com and spread. both redirect to .org
[23:17] <huayra> and even spread.ubuntu.com
[23:17] <huayra> as long as we get one of them
[23:17] <huayra> the other redirections should be trivial really
[23:19] <huayra> Flannel, do you have faith in a Marketing Team revival as a group?
[23:19] <huayra> I believe we could get a lot more done by implementing good marketing processes
[23:19] <huayra> which means: making a platform for LoCos to target their market
[23:20] <huayra> but that has to be thought out propertly
[23:21] <Flannel> huayra: What I'd like to see is some things where we collaborate on a global scale to make materials, instead of a localish one.  Artwork is one thing, *words* are another.
[23:22] <Flannel> Having some sources of good copy (I think that's what it's called) would be nice
[23:22] <huayra> can you please explain a bit more Flannel 
[23:22] <huayra> :) I really want to hear more about that idea
[23:23] <Flannel> well, like for my CD sleeves, all the text on there is borrowed from the official CD sleeves
[23:23] <Flannel> the rev2 that's in the works isn't quite so much, and really, some of the wording is what's holding it up at 95% finished right now
[23:24] <Flannel> We can do artwork as a community well, and we have been.  But having a large repository of just text that I can copy/paste for flyers or brochures, or whatever, would make the creation of that stuff easier
[23:24] <Flannel> "I need a paragraph that covers X and Y"  "oh, here's one, hmm, a little too long, lets cut out that sentence"
[23:25] <Flannel> instead of "what do we want to say about X and Y?"  "alright, lets now revise it a few times"
[23:26] <huayra> That's the way I use to work with my marketing colleagues
[23:26] <Flannel> That's one of the 'major' problems I've had when creating these things. (It's not a super big problem, but its what takes up most of the time)
[23:27] <huayra> what would such an activity be called? Text editos?
[23:27] <huayra> *editors
[23:27] <Flannel> We usually fire up gobby and start by coming up with what topics we want to cover, and then writing sentences and combining them and culling bad stuff, etc.
[23:28] <Flannel> This could all happen under SU too, instead of svgs and pngs and stuff, we just upload text documents, etc
[23:28] <huayra> see... You have a workflow that works. We need to document that and make that info available to other LoCos
[23:28] <huayra> or AMrketing contacts interested in helping out
[23:28] <Flannel> If we get into the tagging stuff with drupal, it'd be a lot easier to categorize and expand into new things like this
[23:28] <huayra> yeah, that could be an idea
[23:28] <Flannel> Yeah, it's something we can limp by doing, but i'm sure marketing people can churn it out much faster than we can
[23:28] <huayra> AliTabuger7, any thoughts on how we could implement that?
[23:28] <Flannel> just like I can design electronics faster than they can.
[23:29] <huayra> certainly... I had a colleague which would always magically turn what I wrote into something really eatable marketing-wise
[23:29] <Flannel> From what we said before (mind you, I don't do drupal), moving to a tagged set of content sounded doable, instead of strictly defined categories with an "other" category
[23:30] <Flannel> Those same paragraphs/tidbits could easily be turned into presentations and other stuff too.
[23:31] <Flannel> but moving into a more "freeform" site would probably allow this stuff to happen much easier (certainly without administrator interaction), so *we* don't have to think about every possible way it can be used.  It'll be used however the users can find ways to use it.
[23:32] <huayra> Flannel, that is true. And we could present SU in a more Web 2.0ish fashion with a cloud of tags in the side or something
[23:32] <huayra> people love that
[23:32] <Flannel> Makes it easier for the admin people and the users
[23:32] <Flannel> huayra: I'm allergic to two point oh, but yes.
[23:32] <huayra> the Pyhton thingy you once propossed?
[23:32] <huayra> or a wiki ?
[23:32] <Flannel> No, the tag based thing
[23:32] <huayra> Flannel, is just a way of talking.. It's hype. you know...
[23:32] <huayra> Oh
[23:33] <Flannel> huayra: I'm allergic to hype :)
[23:33] <huayra> I am too, but at work I am all in for hype (I work with Marketing&Sales)
[23:33] <huayra> ;)
[23:33] <Flannel> That python thing would've been a way to sync with a bazaar branch,
[23:33]  * huayra adapts to *any* situation
[23:33] <huayra> yeah
[23:33] <Flannel> I'm not sure it'd be worthwhile
[23:34] <huayra> but it seems that SU solved that
[23:34] <huayra> as it is
[23:34] <Flannel> Yeah
[23:34] <huayra> we have some revisioning which seems sufficient now
[23:35] <huayra> dpic, regarding the language detection: Do you think that it would be a good idea to get that information from LaunchPad instead of using the browser settings?
[23:35] <huayra> it would certainly make it all feel more cloudish (My language preferences anywhere as long as you use the LP OpenID, which SU does use by default)
[23:36] <huayra> Flannel, could you please elaborate that Tag idea in our idea pool?
[23:36] <huayra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu/IdeaPool
[23:36] <huayra> I can do it if you are not keen
[23:37] <dpic> huayra: yeah, perhaps falling back on the browser setting
[23:37] <huayra> AliTabuger7, have you checked what options the Ubuntu-Drupal Launchpad module gives regarding getting data from LP?
[23:38] <Flannel> huayra: Erm... I don't mind doing it, but I'm not sure where I'd put it.
[23:40] <huayra> the wiki :)
[23:40] <huayra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu/IdeaPool
[23:40] <huayra> just make a new idea
[23:40] <huayra> you can use the idea Teamplate or just put up the idea there
[23:41] <huayra> Flannel :)