[00:00] <flootenkerp> Does anyone here know a good nes emulator for linux?
[00:00] <ChaoticXSinZ> When you install freetype from the repos where does it install? /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib?
[00:00] <epinky> flootenkerp: gfceu?
[00:00] <greezmunkey> ChaoticSinZ, locate freetype
[00:00] <fcuk112> blackshell: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager fusion-icon
[00:01] <zopiac> puff: then reducing a partition by about 3-5gb (maybe more if you want to move some files to aother partition than shrink) and then moving the partitions to one size and making the / partiton fill out the new free space is my suggestion
[00:01] <Jordan_U> ChaoticXSinZ: "dpkg -L <package-name>" will show all of the files that package installs
[00:01] <Cladius1984> greezmunkey: lo - no wireless extensions | eth0 no wireless extensions
[00:01] <flootenkerp> I install fceu epinky, but then I didn't know where to start it up
[00:01] <DasEi> ChaoticXSinZ: maybe a sudo updatedb before locate
[00:01] <zopiac> epinky: all right, everything works great! well, the printer is a dinosaur, but the print function now works
[00:01] <ChaoticXSinZ> Well I have it installed in both /usr/lib and /usr/lib/local and that is causing problems with any gtk app
[00:01] <studebaker> man i'm having a rough night.. one of my disks' partitions got corrupted. not sure how. i'm trying to run testdisk from the live cd to see if i can recover anything, but my cd rom drive doesn't work too well so it keeps getting read fails :(
[00:01] <Roasted> hey guys - what program converts mp4 to mp3?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> [-jon-]_: Are you sure it's a mic input and not line input?
[00:01] <epinky> zopiac: great, glad you've solved it :)
[00:02] <greezmunkey> Cladius1984, sounds like a driver conflict, in a terminal type cat dmesg, and pate the results i the pastebin
[00:02] <flootenkerp> epinky, where would I start it up?
[00:02] <greezmunkey> paste
[00:02] <ChaoticXSinZ> I get: "gedit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_Library_SetLcdFilter"
[00:02] <zopiac> epinky: heck all i did was put in a few commands and let you handle it :P
[00:02] <ChaoticXSinZ> but if I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib it works
[00:02] <zopiac> epinky: thanks a ton, now i dont have to rely on my dad's computer to print stuff
[00:03] <ChaoticXSinZ>  sudo ldconfig -p | grep freetype shows that its using the /usr/local/lib one by default
[00:03] <ChaoticXSinZ> how can I change that?
[00:03] <studebaker> i made a bootable usb disk of the live cd and eventhough i changed the boot seq in the bios it is not picking up 'removable device'
[00:03] <puff> zopiac: I guess what I meant was, I can shrink /mcgee by 3-5GB and then grow / by the same amount.  that's probably the easiest thing for me to do, since /mcgee has 9GB free.
[00:03] <Cladius1984> Ill brb
[00:03] <stryker> Hi all. How can I add chinese input to?
[00:03] <ChaoticXSinZ> anything?
[00:04] <Fujk> I'm on the fence of chosing ATI vs nvidia :(
[00:04] <puff> zopiac: Or I can shuffle stuff around to shrink /home by 3GB instead.  Is there any functional reason to prefer that?
[00:04] <Dravekx> how do i list devices via command line?
[00:04] <zopiac> puff: yeah, youll just have to move the partitions to the right (or left, depending on the setup) to give the other partition room to grow
[00:04] <Dravekx> i forgot
[00:04] <zopiac> puff: depends on how much more you put on one partition than the other.
[00:04] <flootenkerp> Does anyone else know a good nes emulator for linux?
[00:04] <epinky> flootenkerp: gfce is already installed, right?
[00:04] <fcuk112> stryker: system->preferences->language support
[00:04] <lotec> dravekx: lspci lsusb
[00:05] <zopiac> flootenkerp: there's a functional one in add/remove
[00:05] <flootenkerp> Yes epinky
[00:05] <DasEi> Fujk: sad bad true driver support is mostly better for nvidia, though some atis do fine, do, got ask for certain models, check :
[00:05] <DasEi> !hardware
[00:05] <ChaoticXSinZ> So how do you change the default freetype lib from the one in /usr/local/lib to /usr/lib?
[00:05] <epinky> flootenkerp: then go Applications->Games-> GFCE
[00:05] <stryker> fcuk112: actually i am in linux mint, based on ubuntu, but a little different. i did find language support
[00:05] <flootenkerp> hm, don't see it
[00:06] <Fujk> DasEi: what bugs me is that current nvidia does not have support for DX11 ... for my dual boot games purpose
[00:06] <Cladius19841> greezmunkey: where do I paste the dmesg results?
[00:06] <ChaoticXSinZ> Anybody?
[00:06] <VulcanJaded> who wants to help me with this karmic install?
[00:06] <DasEi> stryker: c search synaptic, or use apt-cache search
[00:06] <flootenkerp> could you give me the terminal command to install it epinky?
[00:06] <lotec> Cladius19841: pastebin
[00:06] <jm2k> jatt: thx that did the trick.
[00:06] <greezmunkey> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:06] <epinky> flootenkerp: then type "gfceu"
[00:06] <greezmunkey> then paste back the entire url it gives you...
[00:07] <puff> zopiac: Well I'd slightly prefer to keep the /mcgee partition larger...
[00:07] <Dravekx> mount: mount point /usb does not exist << what does that mean?
[00:07] <puff> zopiac: The idea is to put expendable files on /mcgee so I can more efficiently back up /home
[00:07] <DasEi> Fujk: I'm another budget range, but there are many posts about that out, got to ask here or google ubuntu + specific model
[00:07] <studebaker> anybody know any reasons why my asus motherboard won't boot from a usb device?
[00:07] <lotec> dravekx: there is no /usb dir
[00:07] <ChaoticXSinZ> greezmunkey: Any idea why I might have another version of freetype in /usr/local/lib than /usr/lib which messes up GTK apps?
[00:07] <flootenkerp> I'll try reinstalling it, could you give me the terminal command epinky?
[00:07] <Dravekx> lotec, do i need to create one to mount my USB drive?
[00:07] <flootenkerp> I used a download online
[00:08] <Cladius19841> Greezmunkey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/319624/
[00:08] <flootenkerp> So idk the command
[00:08] <greezmunkey> ChaoticXSinZ, none, sorry.
[00:08] <lotec> Dravekx: you can, or you can mount it where ever you want
[00:08] <DasEi> studebaker: most likely the usb is bad, legacy, usb full also enabeld ? handle usb as disk ?
[00:08] <epinky> flootenkerp: sudo aptitude install gfceu
[00:08] <puff> zopiac: Come to think of it, I just torched some files on /home so now I have 4GB free on it.
[00:08] <lotec> dravekx: you can mount it to /tmp
[00:08] <ChaoticXSinZ> greezmunkey: Well any chance you know how to change which shows up in ldconfig?
[00:08] <DasEi> studebaker: how did you set up the usb ?
[00:08] <puff> zopiac: But what I meant is, is it faster to shrink home and expand /, or to shrink mcgee and expand /, or is neither one faster?
[00:08] <VulcanJaded> anyone here using karmic on nvraid?
[00:08] <VulcanJaded> or jaunty
[00:09] <studebaker> dasei: i don't think its bad.. the mobo is pretty new. i made the usb with the usb startup disk creator and put the live cd on it
[00:09] <flootenkerp> epinky, I got this
[00:09] <flootenkerp> Error:  0: couldn't open source file <gfceu.ui>
[00:09] <flootenkerp> gfceu.ui: No such file or directory
[00:09] <greezmunkey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/319624/Claudius, give me a minute...
[00:09] <zopiac> puff: i doubt either will be faster, per se
[00:09] <DasEi> studebaker: did you format the stick before with fat 32 ? checked gparted for the bottflag set on it ?
[00:09] <epinky> flootenkerp: when executing aptitude install?
[00:10] <Senesence> The flash-plugin package is broken and I can't fix it (keep getting "package is in very bad or inconsistent state"), anyone know what's going on there?
[00:10] <flootenkerp> yeah
[00:10] <puff> zopiac: Is there any reason to prefer one or the other?
[00:10] <Dravekx> lotec, I mounted it.. nothing there. hmm.. brb
[00:10] <puff> zopiac: I'm curious as to what it's actually doing, under the covers so to speak, when I resize the partitions that way.
[00:11] <flootenkerp> Do you know what's wrong, epinky?
[00:11] <Dravekx> lotec, how do i find out what my USB drive is? I thought it was sdc1. I guess its not.
[00:11] <zopiac> puff if one is directly next to the / partition, you might be able to shrink it so that it leaves free space next to the / partition so you wont have to move anything, just then grow /
[00:11] <DisguisedAngel> brain fart, I can't remember the command to change permissions, can someone remind me lol.
[00:11] <Cladius19841> greezmunkey: thank you and take your time
[00:11] <DasEi> Dravekx: sudo fdisk -l
[00:11] <Dravekx> ahhhh.. thanks DasEi
[00:11] <CaneToad> Is Karmic known to be quite broken with regards to recognition of USB devices?
[00:11] <studebaker> dasei: i did format it before.. what's the bottflag?
[00:11] <DasEi> DisguisedAngel: chmod
[00:11] <zopiac> puff: however, with such small partitions, it shouldnt be a huge problem. if you leave it run overnight there will be no real difference either way
[00:11] <DisguisedAngel> thx
[00:12] <epinky> flootenkerp: no idea, but you can check this: http://incqre.net/wiki/index.php?title=Lista_de_emuladores
[00:12] <Senesence> How can I fix a broken package?
[00:12] <ChaoticXSinZ> anyone know how to make ldconfig reset its cache?
[00:12] <craigbass1976> I can't print pdf's to my networked brother mfc 7820n.  I've been fighting off and on for a couple of weeks.  Can anyone help?
[00:12] <DasEi> studebaker: marker for bootable partition, sudo fdisk -l will also show
[00:12] <ZanQdo> can anyone tell me how to change the entries and order in grub 2?
[00:12] <zopiac> puff: sorry but i have to go, if you need more help on using gparted, try to ask around some more
[00:13] <Dravekx> hm
[00:13] <ZanQdo> Ive been staring at pages for the last 15 minuts without understanding a thing
[00:13] <craigbass1976> ZanQdo, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:13] <ZanQdo> craigbass1976: that was the good old grub
[00:13] <ZanQdo> not in grub2
[00:13] <Senesence> How can I force uninstall a package?
[00:13] <craigbass1976> ZanQdo, Oh, oops.
[00:13] <puff> zopiac: T hanks muchly.
[00:13] <greezmunkey> Cladius19841, do some google searches with the contents, or parts thereof from here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/312698/
[00:13] <DasEi> ZanQdo: edit /etc/default/grub
[00:13] <ethan> hi  everyone, noob trying to set up tvcard here, any takers? i wanna smash my head againsta wall
[00:14] <DasEi> ZanQdo: then : sudo update grub
[00:14] <studebaker> dasei: so if i do fdisk -l you mean the ones with * as boot? it shows up: /dev/sdb1   *           1         304     1983487+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[00:14] <greezmunkey> Cladius19841, you have 'net access, there is probably an easy fix you can use!
[00:14] <DasEi> studebaker: yup
[00:14] <ZanQdo> DasEi: but the list of entries isnt there
[00:14] <greezmunkey> Cladius19841, I'll look too...
[00:14] <ZanQdo> DasEi: just the timeout and a few other settings
[00:14] <ManUpstairs> Any suggestions for a command line rss feed reader? Thanks!
[00:14] <Cladius19841> greezmunkey: I know :) I was looking on google but couldn't find anything yet. Apparently the previous distro worked right outta the box for the 110c
[00:15] <Senesence> ------>Broken Package------->Flash---------->Can't remove--------->Why?
[00:15] <Cladius19841> It looks like an IRQ conflic
[00:15] <Cladius19841> t
[00:15] <trism> ZanQdo: the numbers that prefix the files in /etc/grub.d should determine the order of entries
[00:15] <epinky> flootenkerp: try with this command : sudo apt-get install fceu gfceu
[00:16] <Jordan_U> ZanQdo: The actual entries are in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:16] <[-jon-]_> how can I mount a windows formatted hard drive?
[00:16] <flootenkerp> epinky, it's fine, I installed it with synaptic
[00:16] <studebaker> dasei: any other ideas what it might be? i've booted from usb on my netbook before, but maybe there's an extra step i'm missing on a desktop
[00:16] <flootenkerp> I have it now, thanks for your help though
[00:16] <ZanQdo> Jordan_U: no they are not
[00:16] <ZanQdo> trism: ok that's starting to make sense
[00:16] <studebaker> changed the boot sequence so 'removable device' came ffirst
[00:16] <epinky> flootenkerp: you're welcome, good luck :)
[00:17] <DasEi> studebaker: no other then the mentioned settings in bios,  got to set usb as first hd, hanle as disk, legacy enabled, full speed
[00:17] <Senesence> Anyone know anything about broken packages, and how to actually remove them?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> ZanQdo: What do you mean? Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg because it should definitely have menu entries
[00:18] <greezmunkey> Cladius19841, check the last two posts here, you'll be on your way! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8220717
[00:18] <Jordan_U> ZanQdo: If you want to just list all of the entries you can do: sudo grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep -o '".*"'
[00:18] <greezmunkey> Cladius19841, it's a ndiswrapper thing man.
[00:18] <VulcanJaded> should i set my / partition to primary or logical?
[00:18] <VulcanJaded> and ext3 or ext4?
[00:18] <epinky> Senesence: sudo apt-get --purge remove PACKAGENAME
[00:19] <ZanQdo> Jordan_U: ok I see them
[00:19] <Senesence> epinky: Doesn't the "remove completely" option in synaptic do that?
[00:19] <jure> what's the default setting regarding barriers in ext4 in ubuntu 9.xx?
[00:19] <DasEi> ZanQdo: I just got my update didn't bring grub2 on this machine; check /etc/grub.d/40_custom for personalized entries
[00:20] <DasEi> Senesence: this or sudo apt-get remove --purge
[00:20] <DasEi> Senesence: is you apt still in order ?
[00:21] <epinky> Senesence: yep, but Synaptic sometimes fails
[00:21] <epinky> :)
[00:21] <losha> VulcanJaded: any of those options should work, but personally I'd choose primary/ext3, because that would be easiest to debug
[00:22] <Cladius19841> greezmunkey: thank you so much. I'll try it out and get back to you :)
[00:22] <VulcanJaded> losha, already did the opposite of that (logical/ext4) :(
[00:22] <greezmunkey> Cladius19841, np, good luch :)
[00:22] <greezmunkey> luck
[00:22] <losha> VulcanJaded: that should work ok too, no problem...
[00:23] <xtozze> Hey hey guys
[00:23] <gasull> Hi.  There is a Gnome program (or at least it existed in previous versions of Ubuntu) for controlling the different audio channels, input and output.  What program is it?  Thanks.
[00:23] <penol> I have a laptop ( HP compaq 6735B ) but the wlan will not work, enyone that can help me :) ?
[00:23] <ZanQdo> Jordan_U: isit safe to comment out entries there?
[00:24] <Senesence> epinky: Ok, I tried that, but got back the same error: "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal."
[00:24] <greezmunkey> Penol, what doesn't work?
[00:24] <xtozze> I got a question. For fedora its possible to download their entire dvd/cd thing. Can i do that with unbuntu as well instead of using the live cd? ANd when the process is done would there be a difference? I had some issues with my ubuntu's sound and im wondering if i download the more complete one and install that if it might make a difference. Or does unbuntu installed with the live cd update everything to match up the dvd/cd one after
[00:24] <xtozze> the basic installations.
[00:24] <Penol> greezmunkey: The wireless network!
[00:24] <fcuk112> gasull: gnome-alsamixer?
[00:25] <kermit> why are my access times dissapearing?  in ubuntu 9.04, no relatime.   they show up, but they never make it to disk and reset when its no longer cached.
[00:25] <greezmunkey> Penol, I get that...how far did you get troubleshooting the problem?
[00:25] <kermit> ..with xfs
[00:25] <arsenip> hi guys, does uname -a returning "i686" indicate its the 64bit kernel or just the advanced architecture one over 386?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> ZanQdo: Your changes will be overwritten by update-grub ( just like they would with grub legacy )
[00:25] <Jordan_U> ZanQdo: Why do you want to comment entries out?
[00:25] <arsenip> not really sure whether it has installed 32 or 64 bit by default :s
[00:25] <Penol> greezmunkey: I cant find it when i do lspci, and the wlan is activated in bios, so i dont know why it dont show up :(
[00:25] <jorn> I'm trying to grab some video using a pinnacle dazzle and this command : ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -s 640x480 -r 30000/1001 -i /dev/video1 -f avi -vcodec mjpeg -s 640x480 -r 30000/1001 -y    but the video is not so good. Does anyone know how to improve the quality
[00:25] <lstarnes> arsenip: it's 32-bit
[00:25] <ZanQdo> Jordan_U: because I dont want them to appear in the list
[00:26] <xtozze> can anyone answer my question?
[00:26] <lstarnes> arsenip: i686 is either pentium 3 or 4
[00:26] <ManUpstairs> Does anyone know a good rss reader for the command line? Thanks :)
[00:26] <arsenip> thanks lstarnes, is it possible to upgrade after install ? :
[00:26] <Fujk> anyone use radeon HD5770 with two screens?
[00:26] <lstarnes> arsenip: you must reinstall
[00:26] <arsenip> running a c2d here so
[00:26] <arsenip> oki doki, prolly wont bother for now .
[00:26] <studebaker> dasei: bingo. i was choosing 'removable device' as the option in the boot sequence.. didn't know that i could select the usb as the 1st hdd
[00:26] <losha> xtozze: ubuntu is notorious for sound problems. If you update via the internet after installing, you will end up with a 'complete' system...
[00:26] <epinky> Senesence: what's the name of package?
[00:26] <Senesence> epinky: flashplugin-nonfree
[00:26] <arsenip> thanks lstarnes  :)
[00:26] <greezmunkey> Penol, try this in a terminal... sudo lshw -C network, look at the output that matches your hardware, look for a "driver=" section as well
[00:27] <Jordan_U> ZanQdo: Which entries? If it's old kernels then remove them, if it's memtest remove /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+
[00:27]  * greezmunkey thinks I've been here before...
[00:27] <gasull> fcuk112: Thanks.  I'm installing it.
[00:27] <xtozze> losha im actually going to end up switching to fedora because nothing and no one can get my sounds working.. Im wondering if theres ANYTHING left i can try because i lose this linux version but i need my sounds.
[00:27] <epinky> Senesence: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm
[00:27] <xtozze> LOsha my only problem is my microphone it refuses to register the existence of my mic.
[00:27] <FilneR> Hi all
[00:27] <Penol> greezmunkey: the lshw -c network gives me only the wired network :(
[00:27] <xtozze> HI fil
[00:28] <epinky> Senesence: done? after that: sudo dpkg-reconfigure adobe-flashplugin --force
[00:28] <ZanQdo> Jordan_U: ok so I just have to remove the files in grub.d?
[00:28] <greezmunkey> Penol, then your problem goes a bit deeper, what are you running, laptop? type of wireless nic?
[00:28] <losha> xtozze: fedora + gnome should look very much like ubuntu + gnome, so go ahead...
[00:28] <Jordan_U> ZanQdo: Yes, then run "sudo update-grub"
[00:28] <Penol> greezmunkey: im not sure what kind of wireless nic it is on my hp compaq 6735B laptop :O
[00:28] <Senesence> epinky: No such file...
[00:29] <ZanQdo> Jordan_U: ok
[00:29] <greezmunkey> Penol, internal wireless then?
[00:29] <Penol> greezmunkey: correct :P
[00:29] <[-jon-]_> if I mount an iso, where does ubuntu mount it to?
[00:29] <trism> ZanQdo: you don't need to remove any files in grub.d, just chmod -x them
[00:29] <greezmunkey> Penol, you familiar with the pastebin?
[00:29] <epinky> Senesence: then change it with your packages name "cd" into /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[00:29] <Penol> greezmunkey: Yeah :)
[00:29] <ZanQdo> trism: ahh nice
[00:30] <losha> [-jon-]_: you *tell* ubuntu where to mount it when you issue the mount command...
[00:30] <greezmunkey> Penol, cat /var/dmesg, and paste it there...
[00:30] <xtozze> thanks losha
[00:30] <[-jon-]_> losha: i mounted it through the gui
[00:30] <epinky> Senesence: there must be some prerm for nonfree
[00:30] <losha> [-jon-]_: ok, then open a terminal and type df -h. You should see a line for your mounted iso...
[00:31] <Zeratul2k> hello all
[00:31] <[-jon-]_> losha: it's not showing up
[00:31] <xtozze> ugh losha, one more question is this online update your talking about the automatic one right after the installation is completed or is it something i need to do? because that may be my problem.
[00:31] <VulcanJaded> hello Zeratul2k
[00:31] <Senesence> epinky: I'm in /var/lib/dpkg/info but there is no file that starts with "adobe" in that directory.
[00:31] <[-jon-]_> this was an iso that was mounted when i double clicked it
[00:31] <Zeratul2k> having some problems here with my wireless. I have Karmic, it can detect the network normally, but I can't connect to it
[00:32] <Penol> greezmunkey: cat /var/dmesg gives me nothing :O
[00:32] <losha> xtozze: updates are constantly being posted. You should make sure you have the latest by using the update-manager...
[00:32] <Zeratul2k> doesn't seem to be an authentication problem, since I have tested setting WPA, WEP and open in the AP
[00:32] <greezmunkey> Penol, hold a sec...
[00:32] <Penol> greezmunkey: okej :)
[00:32] <Penol> *ok
[00:32] <Senesence> epinky: but there is "flashplugin-nonfree.prerm" -> should I remove that?
[00:33] <losha> [-jon-]_: please post the output of your df -h to http://paste.ubuntu.com so we can see it...
[00:33] <greezmunkey> cat /var/log/dmesg, sorry :)
[00:33] <nikolaj> hello, is anyone able to help with an install issue (ubuntu studio 9.10)
[00:33] <nikolaj> ?
[00:33] <Arsin> How can I bypass Hulu's regional lock?
[00:33] <nikolaj> the guys on the ubuntustudio channel don't seem to be there
[00:33] <Zeratul2k> any ideas?
[00:33] <Penol> greezmunkey: Ok :)
[00:33] <epinky> Senesence: find it nonfree or something
[00:33] <Billiard> nikolaj: whats the issue?
[00:33] <[-jon-]_> losha: http://pastebin.ca/1672804
[00:33] <denis_k> Is there anyway to make popup notifications show on top of the last one? (The notifications keeps showing the old one, waiting a few secs, then show the newer one)
[00:34] <Billiard> Arsin: a proxy
[00:34] <Senesence> epinky: I found "flashplugin-nonfree.prerm", should I remove it?
[00:34] <nikolaj> i am trying to install studio 9.10 off of an .iso which i burnt to disc, the disc works fine as i managed to install it in a vm to test etc... but i can't seem to install it on my actuall laptop.
[00:34] <epinky> Senesence: yep, /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.prerm
[00:34] <coop6> Hello
[00:34] <Penol> greezmunkey: its very mutch text, and i mean mutch
[00:34] <losha> [-jon-]_: according to that, you don't have an iso mounted. Try mounting it again and then re-run df -h
[00:35] <nikolaj> i get the first menu where i can check for faults in the disk, choose the language and choose to install but after choosing to install the screen just stays black
[00:35] <greezmunkey> Penol, that's ok, paste it all
[00:35] <[-jon-]_> losha: it's showing up in the gui though =\
[00:35] <nikolaj> iany ideas?
[00:35] <Senesence> epinky: Done -> Should I remove the "flashplugin-nonfree.config" too?
[00:35] <adit007> adit007
[00:35] <coop6> What is the best way to remote into a vista machine given the person on the vista machine can only manage to figure out how to send an RAticket (generated by the remote assitant)
[00:35] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys Ive known how to use and love using the man pages for command line tool usage syntax and such. But I just read online by accident that someone said to use man followed by the name of a system file rather than a command. Does this also apply to ubuntu man pages can tell you about certain system config files etc? If so, are probably all config files listed in man pages if you know? Im gonna have to experiment a bit if this is so.
[00:35] <zaoul> Since I'm not using Linux anymore, and using Ubuntu. make bzImage modules modules_install did not work, When I boot.. my screen flashes at login and I can see "invalid module format" ... what is the proper way to compile kernel's for Ubuntu?
[00:35] <coop6> *im using ubuntu 9.1
[00:35] <epinky> Senesence:nope, now: sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree --force
[00:35] <gasull> Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong in the ALSA Mixer? http://yfrog.com/2mscreenshotgnomealsamixep  I can't record any sound.  Thanks.
[00:35] <losha> [-jon-]_: that's weird, but then, I don't use the gui myself. Maybe someone else who does can help you...
[00:36] <nikolaj> i thought first of all it might be a graphics issue, but i have no idea where to start
[00:36] <Arsin> Billiard: Not working out for me
[00:36] <greezmunkey> Cladius1984, any luck?
[00:36] <Cladius1984> greezmunkey: Yup :) Using wifi right now woohoo
[00:36] <Cladius1984> ndiswrapper
[00:36] <Billiard> Arsin: they may block certain proxies as well, idk
[00:36] <ph8> hi all, what's that command to sense the windows partition (for grub)?
[00:37] <greezmunkey> Cladius1984, That's what I like to hear! Good Job, that'll be five bucks :]
[00:37] <craigbass1976> Nobody has an answer for printing pdfs?
[00:37] <craigbass1976> I can't print pdf's to my networked brother mfc 7820n.  I've been fighting off and on for a couple of weeks.  Can anyone help?
[00:37] <Penol> greezmunkey: http://pastebin.com/dff753e1
[00:37] <epinky> Senesence: and finally : sudo dpkg --purge --force-all flashplugin-nonfree
[00:37] <Cladius1984> haha, do you take check or charge?
[00:37] <losha> linuxguy2009: many system files have man pages documenting their format etc. Often there will be a 'See Also' section at the end of a man page pointing you to other man entries. Also try 'man -k <keyword>' to find stuff..
[00:38] <Cladius1984> brb
[00:38] <nikolaj> craigbass1976: have you tried doing it through acrobat in ubuntu?
[00:38] <Zeratul2k> so no ideas on my problem?
[00:38] <zaoul> why does make bzImage modules modules_install not work on Ubuntu?
[00:38] <linuxguy2009> losha: wow thats awsome I never would have guessed that on my own. Hopefully that will come in useful. Thank you.
[00:38] <epinky> Senesence: done?
[00:38] <craigbass1976> nikolaj, I have, and have also done everything here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/289852
[00:38] <zaoul> why must every standard be changed, altered, newbified
[00:38] <Josh__> linuxguy2009, it depends if there is a manpage written for the file in question. e.g. config files usually have manpages.
[00:38] <gasull> Am I doing anything wrong in the GNOME ALSA Mixer? http://yfrog.com/2mscreenshotgnomealsamixep
[00:39] <Senesence> epinky: I got this: "dpkg: warning: while removing flashplugin-nonfree, directory '/usr/lib/xulrunner' not empty so not removed."
[00:39] <_nnx> Hi everyone
[00:39] <ph8> hi all, what's that command to sense the windows partition (for grub)? -- my win7 partition isn't currently showing up in the grub boot menu
[00:39] <epinky> Senesence: it's ok proceed with next command
[00:39] <Zeratul2k> my laptop can see the network but can't connect to it. It doesn't matters if there's authentication or not (Open system, WEP, WPA) and I get a "Association request to the driver failed" in the syslog
[00:39] <Zeratul2k> when trying to connect
[00:40] <epinky> Senesence: sudo dpkg --purge --force-all flashplugin-nonfree, was finished right?
[00:40] <Senesence> epinky: Yes
[00:40] <Penol> greezmunkey: do you find enything ?
[00:40] <_nnx> I got myself a bit of a situation here: xserver crashed on me while I was trying to play back a .wmv with compiz enabled. Anyway: I now have no video signal but the system is still active. Last time I hard-rebooted this happened and was forced to do a clean insteall(root.disk got damaged) is there any way I can force a reboot or shutdown blindly?
[00:40] <epinky> Senesence: ok, you need that plugin, right?
[00:41] <nikolaj> sorry craig, can't think of anything else atm
[00:41] <virtuald> zaoul: did you run depmod?
[00:41] <Senesence> epinky: I can get it through synaptic now, right?
[00:41] <epinky> Senesence: yep, that's it :)
[00:42] <francis_> bonsoir linuxien
[00:42] <Senesence> epinky: Ok, I'll give it a try (just a sec)
[00:42] <_nnx> sorry laptop hibernated >.<
[00:42] <losha> _nnx: depending on your version, ctrl-alt-delete may work. Or is there a hardware reset button on your pc?
[00:43] <darrend> hi, I seem to have lost the indicator-applet from the systray.. how do I get it back?
[00:43] <greezmunkey> Penol, actually no, it would help if you track down what type if internal wireless nic you have, also, next time use: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:43] <_nnx> there is a hardware reset button, but I'm afraid I'll lose my data again
[00:44] <_nnx> ctrl+alt_del as well as ctrl+alt+backspace didn't work
[00:44] <greezmunkey> Penol, are you sure the wireless nic is activated in the BIOS?
[00:44] <Penol> greezmunkey: its says it activated
[00:44] <_nnx> I even tried: ctrl+alt+f1, then sudo reboot [enter], [my password] [enter]
[00:44] <Penol> greezmunkey: should i check a second time ?
[00:45] <losha> _nnx: well, it's true that you might lose data. Can you ssh in from another machine?
[00:45] <greezmunkey> Penol, yea, nothing really jumped out at me in the dmesg that you pasted...yes, please
[00:45] <Senesence> epinky: Ok, I think things are fine now: Thanks a lot for your help.
[00:45] <_nnx> i might be able to
[00:45] <Penol> greezmunkey: ok :)
[00:45] <nikolaj> okey doke, so no ideas on installing ubuntustudio 9.10?
[00:45] <greezmunkey> Penol, restart first if you could...
[00:45] <_nnx> i have ubuntu installed on this laptop, too.. should i reboot to that?
[00:45] <epinky> Senesence: you're welcome, glad you've solved it
[00:45] <ZanQdo> Jordan_U: heh I give up
[00:45] <_nnx> and THANKS for all your help, btw!
[00:46] <Zeratul2k> so no ideas on my network problem, then?
[00:46] <greezmunkey> that's ok, paste it allPenol
[00:46] <greezmunkey> oops...
[00:46] <pallav> Hi. I am trying to change my screen resolution on Ubuntu 9.10 - from what I understand, there is no xorg.conf in this version - how do I set custom resolutions? (I don't know my monitors exact name etc. so I can't just create a custom xorg.conf)
[00:46] <yogacoop> anyone seeing gnome-panel "disappear" in NBR/karmic? seems to be random, but often pkill brings it back
[00:47] <greezmunkey> Penol, after you restart, paste your dmesg again.
[00:47] <Fujk> anyone have ATI HD5870 with dual monitors?
[00:47] <Penol> greezmunkey: Ok, i will do :D
[00:47] <_nnx> oh, okay ... it looks like i'd need to have had a SSH server installed first. Unless runs automatically in 9.04?
[00:48] <Penol> greezmunkey: on hp.com it says its a : Broadcom 802.11a/b/g/draft-n mini-pci-card on spesifications
[00:48] <Jordan_U> pallav: Xorg --configure
[00:49] <epinky> _nnx: install openssh-server
[00:49] <Sky[x]> what i have to enable for Wake On Lan on ubuntu ? :>
[00:49] <Jordan_U> pallav: But if you can't get the resolution you want it's more likely a driver problem
[00:49] <greezmunkey> Penol, that helps...Do this search in Google: ubuntu broadcom ndiswrapper install, and see what you get!
[00:49] <Sierradump>  Hey I could use some help setting up WiFi too.  I just got a Acer Revo 3600.  Got Ubuntu minimal installed.  (using it for media center).
[00:49] <Sierradump> But I can't figure out how to setup the wifi from command line?
[00:49] <LOPA> anyone here able to get 1440X900 resolution with intel 915 graphics
[00:49] <losha> _nnx: correct. To ssh in you would need to have installed an ssh server. If you didn't, it's too late to do it now. A hardware reset might be your only option at this point if you can't get to a tty...
[00:49] <Sierradump> lspci shows my device as:  05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network                                                                              Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[00:49] <Jordan_U> Penol: Don't use ndiswrapper
[00:50] <_nnx> Okay, thanks for all your input.. I guess I'll press the button and bite the bullet... but thanks for letting me know about SSH, I'll be sure to install that once everything's up and running
[00:50] <Jordan_U> Penol: Have you tried System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[00:50] <Sierradump> Can I use some sort of "iwconfig" command to join it to my network?  Will it automatically join that network after every boot?
[00:50] <Penol> Jordan_U: nothing shows up there
[00:51] <losha> _nnx: did you say you got a login prompt with ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[00:51] <_nnx> nah i got blank screen still
[00:51] <_nnx> Rebooting: We have grub.... we have progressbar.....  aaand login! yay no data loss!
[00:51] <Jordan_U> Penol: Can you pastebin the output of "lspci" ?
[00:51] <Penol> Jordan_U: it showed me som broadcom stuff and my ati card driver there, but after i trid one of the broadcom and the ati the broadcom drivers is not there anymore
[00:51] <_nnx> THANKS everyone~
[00:52] <losha> _nnx: good luck. Compiz isn't the most stable of feature, I think...
[00:52] <_nnx> installing ssh and making backup now xD
[00:52] <Penol> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/319646/
[00:52] <_nnx> I know it isn't really but I'm addicted to the shiny >.< I should make an account without compiz
[00:53] <gbear14275> Can someone help me restore my GRUB in Karmic?  I can't seem to mount my boot volume and am stuck
[00:53] <pallav> Thanks for the help so far - I am trying Xorg --configure. It is not a driver issue, all my supported resolutions are appearing, but my gfx card is too crappy to support the 1680x1060 resolution of my monitor and i was trying to reduce it without spoiling the aspect ratio
[00:53] <pigphish> does anyone have experience with ocropus?
[00:53] <theblackmasses> gbear: get into the live cd
[00:53] <gbear14275> was following this howto:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[00:53] <gbear14275> theblackmasses: Am booted off a USB live disk
[00:53] <LOPA> need help getting my correct monitor on a widescreen laptop
[00:53] <LOPA> cant get 1440x900
[00:54] <pigphish> Any experience with OCROPUS?
[00:54] <MK13> i have a problem with my flash drive, it no longer shows that a data portion exist, the only way i can think of showing this is through a windows screen shot (sorry) : http://picpaste.com/pics/2009-11-15_185040.1258332709.jpg | E:\ is the drive that is messing up.
[00:54] <pigphish> LOPA: i suppose you tried the gui tool in system?
[00:54] <pallav> I have 1440x900 working on my laptop with 915GM drivers btw, to whoever was asking
[00:55] <Zeratul2k> say, what are the defaults for WPA? TKIP and PSK, right?
[00:55] <Jordan_U> Penol: What is the output of "sudo modprobe bcmwl" ?
[00:55] <theblackmasses> gbear: do you have any existing grub file
[00:55] <gbear14275> theblackmasses: not sure... I have my old /boot but what is it in is something called grubenv
[00:55] <Penol> Jordan_U: FATAL: Module bcmwl not found.
[00:55] <gbear14275> theblackmasses: I should...
[00:56] <blaa> how can i change default currency on ubuntu 9.10?
[00:56] <Jordan_U> Penol: Ok, does the directory /lib/firmware/b43 exist?
[00:56] <rahmen> Hi! I need help! I just lost an 5 pages long exam I've been writing on for the whole day and when I was about to mail it away I noticed the modified date was thursday.. when I opened the document again I had my old version. I am SURE I saved it. It's just totally gone. Is there some way I can retrieve it? I'm writing in openoffice on ubuntu 9.10
[00:56] <Penol> Jordan_U: yes
[00:56] <pigphish> Zeratul2k: WPA at home is usually setup with TKIP PSK
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Penol: What is the output of "sudo modprobe b43" ?
[00:57] <pigphish> Any experience with OCROPUS?
[00:57] <Zeratul2k> pigphish: thanks
[00:57] <theblackmasses> gbear: give me a second
[00:57] <Penol> Jordan_U: nothing
[00:57] <epinky> blaa: you mean for using in Openoffice?
[00:58] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, here's somthing I found: you aint gonna like it: Problem solved by a clean re-install of 9.10. Now, the wireless icon, when clicked, shows my WiFi. Don't know what happened, but the re-install fixed it.
[00:58] <blaa> no, wxBanker
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Penol: And there is no wlan0 in "iwlist scan" ?
[00:58] <theblackmasses> gbear:  Ok, open a terminal and type in 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[00:58] <Mimi> *QUESTION*    Grub is installed @ sdc ----  Windows bootloader is @ sda1 and is loaded thru Grub ----  I want grub @  sda.  ----  Do I just do grub-install /dev/sda    ?      Grub is great, just want to change location.
[00:58] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, that's looking at Penols nic type...
[00:58] <Penol> Jordan_U: correct, it does not show wlan0
[00:59] <Cladius1984> Greezmunkey: So everything is working perfectly. I wanted to say thanks again.
[00:59] <ScottG> Is there a cli program like file-roller?
[00:59] <greezmunkey> Cladius1984, great, now where's my five bucks...:>
[00:59] <greezmunkey> kidding.
[00:59] <Zeratul2k> nope, still no luck trying to connect to network...
[00:59] <gbear14275> theblackmasses: that file doesn't exist
[00:59] <Cladius1984> Give me your paypal lol
[01:00] <gbear14275> theblackmasses: I'm sorry... I'm using grub 1.97... I think called grub2
[01:00] <SingAlong> hi all
[01:00] <greezmunkey> Cladius1984, you think that would work...hmmm, maybe I should get better at this!
[01:01] <epinky> blaa: you should use LC_MONETARY=xyz wxbanker on launch command
[01:01] <Cladius1984> Hehe, donations aren't earnings. They're... donations as a thank you.
[01:01] <greezmunkey> Cladius1984, glad I help.
[01:01] <SingAlong> I downloaded Ubuntu Netbook Remix ISO file and the install notes say that i need to write an img file to my USB drive. But the flle i downloaded is an iso. Do i just rename the file from iso to img and write it?
[01:02] <rahmen> Is there ANY way of retrieving an openoffice document when it's not saved but closed?
[01:03] <SingAlong> anyone?
[01:03] <Roasted> hey guys - dock users in here - what docks do you prefer and why? Trying to decide which one I like more...
[01:03] <doltek> when I burn ISO files to a dvd and watch them the disc only shows a black screen.
[01:03] <Zeratul2k> Set IP manually, still can't connect. Problem must be in the wpa_supplicant, I guess
[01:03] <greezmunkey> Question for the Group, I downloaded the Ubuntu 9.10 iso, but I can't find anything that describes the difference between the live CD, and install CD. Are they one in the same?
[01:03] <SingAlong> Roasted: dock users?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Penol: Ok, try "sudo rmmod b43" then "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source"
[01:03] <Roasted> singalong - you know, docks for ubuntu
[01:04] <Roasted> singalong - like the mac esque dock
[01:04] <alice|wl> hello, I have a problem with a corrupt file in /var/lib/dpkg/info. And I can not remove it
[01:04] <Mimi> SingAlong, Gnome-Do Dockey,  AWN...
[01:04] <SingAlong> Roasted: oh oh. anything nice? i would like to have a Mac-lick doc too
[01:04] <Roasted> mimi - you a dock user?
[01:04] <rahmen> is there an openoffice channel where ppl answer on openoffice questions?
[01:04] <alice|wl> guess I have to fsck the partition. Its an encrypted disk. is there a command to automaticaly do fsck on reboot?
[01:04] <Mimi> Roasted,  Yes, but I haven't used AWN in a while, so I don't feel justified on making comments on it
[01:04] <Roasted> singalong - I've been trying 3 different docks, 2 I like, 1 doesnt work for me (AWN) since I cant get it on my main monitor in my twinview setup
[01:04] <Zeratul2k> still getting that "Association request to the driver failed"
[01:04] <ph8> hi all, what's that command to sense the windows partition (for grub)? -- my win7 partition isn't currently showing up in the grub boot menu
[01:04] <sanjid> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu, I can't boot up from the USB stick
[01:04] <Penol> Jordan_U: what did u write ?
[01:04] <epinky> blaa: check this https://answers.launchpad.net/wxbanker/+faq/580
[01:04] <Jordan_U> Penol: Ok, try "sudo rmmod b43" then "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source"
[01:05] <SingAlong> Roasted: i have a netbook. so i need something thats flexible and small
[01:05] <SingAlong> Roasted: what are the other 2?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> ph8: sudo update-grub
[01:05] <Roasted> singalong - the 2 Ive been playing with are customizable.
[01:05] <gasull> The more I search to fix the problem with my mic the more lost I am.  Should I use ALSA or OSS?  Where do I unmute the mic?  Please help
[01:05] <Zeratul2k> can anyone help me with this network problem, please?
[01:05] <yast> anyone know a nice windom manager.. I mean like gnome and kde
[01:05] <Penol> Jordan_U: and then reboot?
[01:05] <Roasted> singalong - "Docky" from Gnome-Do and Cairo Dock.
[01:05] <yast> I remember having a few a few years ago
[01:05] <alice|wl> gasull: use alsa. muting and stuff can be done in alsamixer
[01:05] <Mimi> Roasted, GnomeDo is great for me, NOW that it has applets :P Weather, Battery, that sort of stuff.  It doesn't crash my PC to death like AWN used to.
[01:05] <Roasted> singalong - Docky is basic but smooth. Cairo has a ton of features and customizable.
[01:05] <TDJACR> yast: GNOME and KDE aren't window managers
[01:06] <gasull> Zeratul2k: what is your problem
[01:06] <ph8> Jordan_U:  Thanks, but it doesn't appear to find my windows 7 partition/drive (/dev/sdb)
[01:06] <ph8> any other ideas?
[01:06] <yast> I know but I cant ind the  word
[01:06] <yast> lol
[01:06] <ph8> or if anyone wants to pastebin their grub.d conf file that'd be lovely
[01:06] <Roasted> mimi - the only thing that bothers me about docky from gnomedo is the way it handles certain applications in the dock.
[01:06] <SingAlong> Roasted: is it heavy for a 1gb ram comp?
[01:06] <TDJACR> yast: Desktop Enviornments?
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Penol: No, try just "sudo modprobe bcmwl" first
[01:06] <Zeratul2k> gasull: my laptop can detect the network and authentication type normally, but can't connect to it
[01:06] <Mimi> Roasted, how so?
[01:06] <yast> yep
[01:06] <owen1> anyone knows the name of the utility for setting up a usb stick where you can install ubuntu from the usb? (not the unetbootin)
[01:06] <Sierradump> Can anyone help me with iwconfig?
[01:06] <Zeratul2k> gasull: I keep getting a "Association request to the driver failed" in the syslog
[01:06] <TDJACR> yast: GNOME and KDE lead, but xfce is nice too
[01:06] <gasull> alice|wl: I tried with ALSA already.  Is anything I'm doing wrong here? http://yfrog.com/2mscreenshotgnomealsamixep
[01:06] <yast> there used to be some realy nice and neat one's..
[01:06] <Penol> Jordan_U: FATAL: Module bcmwl not found.
[01:06] <doltek> what is the best burning program for dvd?
[01:06] <ph8> Sierradump:  care to be more specific?
[01:06] <Zeratul2k> this is the only network it fails to connect to, BTW
[01:07] <yast> yeh I remember xfce.. but there was more.. :x
[01:07] <Guest38701> i need support with ubuntu
[01:07] <SingAlong> I downloaded Ubuntu Netbook Remix ISO file and the install notes say that i need to write an img file to my USB drive. But the flle i downloaded is an iso. Do i just rename the file from iso to img and write it?
[01:07] <TDJACR> yast: fluxbox
[01:07] <Roasted> mimi - well I ran into a problem with the way my IMs flash to me. I've heard that it was fixed in docky2 but the beta wasnt released yet. docky1 (from gnome do) is what I have.
[01:07] <owen1> yast: lxde?
[01:07] <Guest38701> Ubuntu wont work with Wubi with Windows 7
[01:07] <Sierradump> ph8:  I just got a Acer Revo. Set it up with ubuntu minimal.  lspci shows me my atheros card.  I don't know what to do now? LoL
[01:07] <Mimi> Guest38701,  Just ask.
[01:07] <yast> yep fluxbox thats exactly what I was looking for
[01:07] <yast> ty guys :D
[01:07] <Guest38701> Ubuntu wont work with Wubi with Windows 7
[01:07] <gasull> Zeratul2k: Are you using the right passwd?  Are you using WEP instead of WAP?
[01:07] <TDJACR> yast: np
[01:07] <SingAlong> roasted: "the way it handles certain applications in the dock." ??
[01:07] <owen1> yast: try awesome wm
[01:07] <Sierradump> ph8: I typed iwconfig wlan essid any ---> hoping tha twould associate to my accesspoint but ?
[01:08] <LOPA> anyone able to help changing my screen to 1440x900
[01:08] <LOPA> ?
[01:08] <Zeratul2k> gasull: I've tried all supported authentication schemes and with no authentication, even. Same problem every time
[01:08] <yast> owen1,  I had it before
[01:08] <ph8> Sierradump:  and you don't want/have to use gnome/network-manager?
[01:08] <yast> but was like 5 or 6 years ago
[01:08] <yast> if not more
[01:08] <yast> so I think its pretty compreensible if I dont quite remember these names
[01:08] <yast> xD
[01:08] <Sierradump> ph8:  I don't have a gui installed... its going to be a media PC so I was directed to install ubuntu server with just shell access
[01:08] <phaer> can someone post the default pythonpath in ubuntu karmic? i lost mine for some reason :(
[01:08] <MoTec> yast: check out xfce4 too
[01:09] <ph8> Sierradump:  any encryption on your access point?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Penol: Ok, try rebooting
[01:09] <epinky> Zeratul2k: NetworkManager passphrase window doesn't show up?
[01:09] <yast> I shall I want something need
[01:09] <yast> to use together with compiz
[01:09] <yast> btw realy nice work since xgl came out
[01:09] <Sierradump> ph8:  I have 2 different locations I would like to use this.  1 AP has NO encryption.  The other AP has WEP.
[01:09] <gbear14275> anyone able to help me with a mount: can't find /dev/sda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab error?
[01:09] <greezmunkey> Penol, did you download the driver Jordan_U asked you to?
[01:09] <yast> xgl was awsome but this new compiz - aiglx
[01:09] <yast> r0x
[01:09] <Zeratul2k> epinky: yes, it shows up. I input the password (copy+paste from the one I put in the AP configuration, showing it, just in case) but still no go
[01:09] <Sierradump> ph8:  currently I am at location "A" with NO ENCRYPTION on the AP.
[01:10] <Sierradump> ph8:  but I am hoping I can configure BOTH APs right now and then when I move about it will automatically join the one it sees?
[01:10] <ph8> so `sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid A`
[01:10] <ph8> should do it
[01:10] <ph8> then ofc ifup wlan0
[01:10] <SingAlong> I downloaded Ubuntu Netbook Remix ISO file and the install notes say that i need to write an img file to my USB drive. But the flle i downloaded is an iso. Do i just rename the file from iso to img and write it?
[01:10] <ph8> replacing wlan0 with your interface
[01:10] <yast> btw another question.. anyone here knows how to work with aircrack ?
[01:11] <sanjid> I'm trying to boot up from my netbook remix thumb drive, and I can't do it. I'm using an eeepc 1005hab
[01:11] <Billiard> yast: yea whats the prob
[01:11] <Sierradump> ph8:  my current location has a ssid of   "  free wifi "
[01:11] <greezmunkey> yast, there are some tutorials on youtube...
[01:11] <Sierradump> ph8: without quotes
[01:11] <snuffy47> Billiard, sup
[01:11] <theblackmasses> SingAlong: No...there's ways of installing to a usb
[01:11] <Billiard> snuffy47: hello, get my message?
[01:11] <acovrig> Dummy Audio Output?
[01:11] <yast> Billiard, I cant quite figure out all the patching around the wireless card stuff
[01:11] <SingAlong> theblackmasses: any docs you can point me to?
[01:11] <nellmathew> hey guys I was wondering, is there a way to launch an application (let's say for example: vbox) from terminal on boot, before loading a desktop, ect? to save memory because i'm limited at the moment.
[01:11] <acovrig> I didn't use that before 9.1 upgrade
[01:12] <Billiard> yast: patching around the wireless card stuff?
[01:12] <hyperstream> i downloaded ubuntu last night, and installed from cd boot menu and from inside Live, both install fine to my USB TB external HDD, i hit advance just before it does the actual install and told it to install the boot loader onto my USB External drive. when i try to boot from it, it gives me a grub error and then just has grub rescue >, why is this how can i fix it ?
[01:12] <Sierradump> ph8: so I type "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid free wifi" but I get an error
[01:12] <sanjid> SingAlong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[01:12] <yast> the injection stuff
[01:12] <acovrig> ?
[01:12] <SingAlong> theblackmasses: I'm using usb-imagewriter on ubuntu. But it can write only img giles. not iso.
[01:12] <snuffy47> Billiard, missed it not sure another peeps asked if I got a msg
[01:12] <acovrig> sound not working in update?
[01:12] <yast> Billiard, yeh supposdly to use mode monitor
[01:12] <Sierradump> ph8:  unkown command "wifi"
[01:12] <SingAlong> sanjid: the downloaded file is an iso
[01:12] <lotec> anyone tell me what remix adds?
[01:12] <Billiard> yast: oh i see, yeah just find a tutorial
[01:12] <yast> the mac needs to be changed or something like that I read
[01:12] <ph8> Sierradump:  are you using quotes for the ssid?
[01:12] <Sierradump> ph8: I think its because there is a space in the ssid?
[01:12] <SingAlong> sanjid: do i just rename the iso to img and write it?
[01:12] <ph8> idd, wrap it in quotes to fix
[01:12] <sanjid> oh hah
[01:12] <Sierradump> ph8: negative on the quotes? should I ?
[01:12] <Zeratul2k> yast: you don't really need to change the mac
[01:13] <yast> the thing is Im not quite sure that is my wireless card
[01:13] <sanjid> that may be my problem
[01:13] <ph8> yes if there's a space
[01:13] <Sierradump> ph8: okay I will try again.
[01:13] <ph8> iwconfig wlan0 essid "foo bar"
[01:13] <OneDay-at-a-Time> Hi, I don't want Gnome-do Docky to hide, BUT I don't want it to make 100 pixels of my screen unsuable. I want the docky to stay over the application, not under it. What can I do
[01:13] <ph8> i've g2g
[01:13] <ph8> brb
[01:13] <sanjid> I'm trying to boot from the one I made
[01:13] <acovrig> help?
[01:13] <sanjid> maybe that's why it won't work
[01:13] <Zeratul2k> yast: google a backtrack tutorial, those are very specific, normally
[01:13] <lotec> anyone tell me what remix adds?
[01:13] <Sierradump> okay cool...
[01:13] <sanjid> but I used dd on osx, so I think it worked the same
[01:13] <yast> hmm I thought backtrack was a distro
[01:13] <sanjid> but I managed to select the thumb drive in the bios, but it won't boot from it
[01:13] <Zeratul2k> yes, but the instructions are almost the same
[01:13] <theblackmasses> SingAlong: Just a minute, I'm searching
[01:13] <SingAlong> theblackmasses: k
[01:13] <Sierradump> ph8: getting closer!   now iwconfig shows essid: "Free Wifi"
[01:14] <Zeratul2k> yast: last backtrack is based on ubuntu
[01:14] <Sierradump> ph8:  but access point:  not associated
[01:14] <LOPA> widescreen resolution anyone?
[01:14] <Zeratul2k> yast: so it should be a good primer
[01:14] <yast> the thing I love in ubuntu is synaptic guy
[01:14] <yast> gui*
[01:14] <acovrig> sound problem?...
[01:14] <rahmen> In openoffice, is there any safety copies made during editing of a file? Somehow the document I was writing on didn't save itself although I clicked save. And now I've closed it and the new text is gone.
[01:14] <Billiard> LOPA: what graphics card?
[01:14] <LOPA> intel 915
[01:14] <LOPA> on a dell xps
[01:14] <LOPA> widescreen laptop
[01:15] <Penol> Jordan_U: now is a blue light on the wireless, but i cant find any networks : /
[01:15] <LOPA> Billiard, intel 915 on dell laptop widescreen
[01:15] <lotec> anyone tell me what remix adds?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> rahmen: Are you sure you aren't just looking in the wrong directory? ( you might have saved the newer versions somewhere else )
[01:15] <Billiard> LOPA: xps with intel lol, so your resolution box just doesnt have the widescreen resolutions listed?
[01:15] <OneDay-at-a-Time> (rewriting my Q because it didn't make any sense) --- Hi, when GnomeDo Docky stays-on-top, it makes a lot of the screen unusuable, that is, if I maximize xChat, it won't go "under" the bar. Ofcourse, I could make the Docky "hide". But I don't like it hidden. How can I make the Docky go "over' the window, not below it?
[01:15] <Penol> Jordan_U: and now the 09:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[01:15] <theblackmasses> SingAlong:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:15] <rahmen> Jordan_U: I'm very sure.. if it was another document it should be in recent docs and it isn't..
[01:16] <LOPA> Billiard, right i want 1440x900
[01:16] <theblackmasses> SingAlong:  But you said something about the ISO not installing?
[01:16] <snuffy47> Billiard, did you have some info for me or just checking in
[01:16] <SingAlong> theblackmasses: no no. the problem wasonly that the usb-imagewriter asked only for img files and not iso.
[01:16] <LOPA> Billiard, no option for the 1440x900
[01:16] <Billiard> snuffy47: i sent you a message on msn i think
[01:16] <Billiard> LOPA: ok one sec
[01:16] <emma> rahmen: not too sure but try going to your home folder, and clicking on 'show all files' so you can see the hidden directories also. Now go to .openoffice.org > 3 > user > backup
[01:16] <epinky> Zeratul2k:  try removing strongswan check this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/441600/comments/7
[01:17] <NoiseEee> my wireless card is coming up as eth* instead of wlan*, and as a result I can't do wireless-only things like use WEP.  How can I get ubuntu to correctly see it as wlan0 instead of eth1?  it seems to have changed since going 9.04 -> 9.10
[01:17] <Zeratul2k> epinky: k, give a minute
[01:17] <niteowl> Hi. I'm using ubuntu 9.10 and just trying to add an upstart service which runs after all of the legacy init scripts. It doesn't seem to be executing though and there doesn't appear to be a way to enable boot logging for upstart.
[01:17] <niteowl> I have a description line, followed by start on stopped rc[2345] and then exec /usr/local/bin/myscript
[01:17] <snuffy47> Billiard, :(
[01:17] <theblackmasses> SingAlong:  Yeah..try using usb-creator, that should work
[01:17] <Billiard> snuffy47: ??
[01:17] <davidboy> How would I install the Gnome-Do Docky?  I've installed Gnome-DO, but don't see anything about a dock
[01:17] <yogacoop> broadcom device wasnt recognized in nbr until i installed b43-fwcutter, just sayin. fixed it immediately
[01:18] <phaer> davidboy: Change the gnome-do theme in the preferences to "dock(y)"
[01:18] <rahmen> emma: I've checked that.. the thing is that I closed the document, and therefor I think all backups are deleted.. (but I really hope they aren't).. when I opened the document my new text was gone and I'm stuck with the version I wrote a few days ago..
[01:18] <snuffy47> Billiard, did not get it
[01:18] <perimetric> Can anyone help me with a problem with vnc im having?
[01:18] <theblackmasses> SingAlong:  Just read the "Copy Files to USB Stick" it shows linux and windows instructions
[01:18] <phaer> davidboy: you'll need to enable desktop effects if you have not done so already
[01:18] <lotec> anyone tell me what remix adds?
[01:18] <emma> rahmen: the fact it just closed makes a person think maybe it was saved.
[01:18] <Billiard> snuffy47: ok, well i said i looked around and found out that when you access shares from the places menu they get mounted to ~/.gvfs
[01:18] <sebsebseb> niteowl: some sort of boot up Ubuntu issue?
[01:18] <Penol> Jordan_U: ??
[01:19] <davidboy> phaer:  How do I enable effects
[01:19] <sebsebseb> niteowl: I am not exactly sure what you were asking
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Penol: "iwlist scan" finds no networks?
[01:19] <Penol> Jordan_U: Nope
[01:19] <Billiard> snuffy47: so you could access them there rather than using autofs, i didnt realize ubuntu desktop did something like that im used to server
[01:19] <Penol> Jordan_U: But the device is now in lspci
[01:19] <theblackmasses> loetc:  remix basically makes it easier to use ubuntu on a small laptop or netbook, check out the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR. It does change some things to adapt it
[01:19] <Cladius1984> NoiseEee: Did you plug an ethernet in and connected online first? Once you do that, go to System > Hardware Drivers and let it search online for drivers. It might find the wireless card driver you need.
[01:19] <Penol> Jordan_U: and the orange light is now blue like its activated
[01:19] <yogacoop> penol: is your wifi not showing in karmic? dont want to jump in as i havent followed entire thread
[01:19] <phaer> davidboy: If your Graphic card supports it: Go to System->Preferences-Appearance and visual effecets
[01:20]  * sinsun_ says if you have problem on Chinese, just join #sinsun-says. I can teach you basic Chinese.
[01:20] <rahmen> emma: I'm sure I saved it manually before since I've been working on it for the whole day.. and when I closed it said nothing about saving or discarding the document.. so it's saved.. but not..
[01:20] <Penol> yogacoop: True true, in a way
[01:20] <Zeratul2k> epinky: triend an "apt-get remove strongswan", it's not installed. Should I try installing it?
[01:20] <i-pink> hii all
[01:20] <yogacoop> penol: is b43-fwcutter installed
[01:20] <i-pink> i need help with table
[01:20] <i-pink> i need help with iptable
[01:20] <davidboy> phaer: I've tried that.  Dosent work.  Must be my graphics card
[01:20] <emma> rahmen: maybe it got saved with a different name by accident?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> !ops |  sinsun_  channel promotion
[01:20] <phaer> davidboy: I can
[01:20] <epinky> Zeratul2k: it says so on comment 8, another possibility
[01:21] <Penol> yogacoop: yes
[01:21] <jongbergs> !openoffice
[01:21] <phaer> davidboy: *I cant help you than.
[01:21] <Flannel> sinsun_: Please don't advertise here.
[01:21] <Zeratul2k> epinky: k, give me another minute :p
[01:21] <owen1> i try to install karmic from cd. i clicked on install xubuntu from the menu and after a few minutes i see crazy colors flashing endlessly. any clues?
[01:21] <shentino> Problem solved.  KMS and text mode VT are mutually incompatible (hopefully just for now).  I disabled KMS
[01:21] <rahmen> emma: it's not in recent documents so no.. I think the only way for me to recover it is if I can like dig it up from the memory..
[01:21] <sinsun_> Flannel: sorry, I won't do that again.
[01:21] <SirFunk> why are my ubuntu-notify windows showing up in the wrong place? it's really annoying
[01:21] <SirFunk> especially because there are no settins for it
[01:21] <niteowl> sebsebseb, my problem is that I cannot get a custom upstart service to execute
[01:21] <yogacoop> penol: sorry, that fixed it for me, incorrect driver and verified fwcutter was installed
[01:21] <davidboy> phenom: Thanks anyway.
[01:21] <shentino> Thanks for the help, it led me right to the intel-gfx guys
[01:21] <sebsebseb> niteowl: upstart do you mean  the boot up splash?  no that's Xplash isn't it?
[01:21] <Fraxtil> Can someone name an application that uses fullscreen mode?
[01:22] <SingAlong> theblackmasses: i selected the ISO file in the usb-creator and selected the drive too. but the format "button" doesnt seem to work
[01:22] <niteowl> I mean the sysvinit replacement
[01:22] <yogacoop> anyone upgrade
[01:22] <phaer> Fraxtil: Firefox?
[01:22] <SingAlong> theblackmasses: ah. k. it worked now. i tried unmounting the device
[01:22] <snuffy47> Billiard, rgr so I just need to make it visible
[01:22] <theblackmasses> SingAlong:  Allright
[01:22] <Fraxtil> phaer: more specifically, one that changes the resolution
[01:22] <jongbergs> owen1: try booting the cd in live session, then install from there.
[01:23] <yogacoop> anyone upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 and gnome-panel works fine?
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Penol: Do you live in Europe ?
[01:23] <snuffy47> Billiard, do I need to unistall the cfis stuff I did finsh the how to but it didnt help
[01:23] <greezmunkey> Penol, how far have you got...
[01:23] <jatt> yes
[01:23] <jongbergs> !upgrade | yogacoop
[01:23] <phaer> Fraxtil: Many games do that. Try gnujump or xmoto for example.
[01:23] <Penol> Jordan_U: Yes, in norway :)
[01:23] <Fraxtil> phaer: thanks
[01:23] <phaer> Fraxtil: no problem :)
[01:23] <epinky> !anyone| yogacoop
[01:23] <Zeratul2k> epinky: done installing. Should I restart anything before trying again?
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Penol: Try setting your router to use a channel that is not Europe only
[01:23] <epinky> I think supplicant and networking also :)
[01:23] <rahmen> Do programs log stuff in ubuntu? Like if I write in openoffice it saves stuff somewhere?
[01:24] <epinky> Zeratul2k: I think supplicant and networking also :)
[01:24] <Mandi> hello!
[01:24] <Zeratul2k> epinky: kk
[01:24] <Billiard> snuffy47: yeah you can if you want... delete that credentials file and apt-get remove --purge autofs
[01:24] <tc111> i've got a complex software raid setup, what are the issues that i should look out for before i upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04?
[01:24] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, good call...I hope you don't mind me following along!
[01:24] <phaer> It would help me a lot, if anybody would be so nice to paste me his/her $pythonpath (9.10) :)
[01:24] <Mandi> i'm starting to get ready to change our 4 computers to ubuntu from various installations of windows, and i have a question before i proceed
[01:25] <Claw6> hello i have just seen, that my xorg.conf is empty ... how can i reconfigure it ?
[01:25] <Snausages> tc111: heh, I'd start with 'back everything up'
[01:25] <sebsebseb> !ask | Mandi
[01:25] <Billiard> LOPA: did you try making an xorg.conf file?
[01:25] <snuffy47> Billiard, created a link to the gvfs folder and good to go.  alittle long to get to but it works :)
[01:25] <LOPA> i have an xorg.conf file
[01:25] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  What's the question
[01:25] <lotec> anyone help me
[01:25] <[-jon-]_> when I play video in vlc, it starts flashing red. any ideas?
[01:25] <Billiard> LOPA: did you try adding your resolutions to the modes
[01:25] <LOPA> Billiard, i have an xorg.conf
[01:25] <snuffy47> Billiard, do I need to worry about the cfis stuff I will leave it if it doesnt really matter
[01:25] <[-jon-]_> also happens with the built in video player
[01:25] <The_reaper489> can anyone help me with installing ubuntu onto the XO laptop/
[01:25] <tc111> Snausages: got that part taken care of... smarty! :P
[01:25] <rahmen> Jordan_U: You don't know if changes in documents are logged or something? Maybe if there's a program that can scan my memory for the text?
[01:25] <The_reaper489> lotec: you there?
[01:25] <LOPA> Billiard, the xorg.conf is kinda empty
[01:26] <sebsebseb> lotec: the netbook remix?
[01:26] <Billiard> snuffy47: it doesnt really matter but you can remove autofs if you never will use it
[01:26] <Billiard> LOPA: kinda empty? paste bin it
[01:26] <The_reaper489> lotec: this is haven489, lotec
[01:26] <LOPA> how do i pastebin a doc?
[01:26] <toro> tits
[01:26] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok what are the questions?
[01:26] <Mandi> k, sorry - i have a desktop running XP that we use as a "server" to store data - it's not typically used; it is also the Internet gateway, so to speak, with the modem wired to it & the wireless router for the laptops, which are all running Vista; we will be double-booting the laptops as there is one particular program that is not currently compatible with ubuntu that we must use for our homeschool
[01:26] <snuffy47> Billiard, okay thanks
[01:26] <dooglus> hi sebsebseb
[01:26] <Billiard> LOPA: copy paste it to a pastebin site
[01:26] <LOPA> Billiard, what is the site?
[01:27] <sebsebseb> dooglus: hi
[01:27] <Jordan_U> rahmen: Have you closed Open Office since you were working on the most up to date version?
[01:27] <sekyourb1x> what is a good movie quick?
[01:27] <Mandi> my question is whether i should install the server edition of ubuntu on my "server" or the desktop version - i still don't really understand the differences between the two
[01:27] <pigphish> Any experience with OCROPUS?
[01:27] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  You can keep the XP server, I believe..there's no compatibility issues
[01:27] <lotec> sebsebseb: i see my book listed but says there are some problems, how do i fix these porblems
[01:27] <Mandi> no, i don't want to keep the XP server - that will be a full wipe & ubuntu only machine
[01:27] <Billiard> LOPA: there are a bunch pastie.org
[01:27] <LOPA> Billiard,  http://pastebin.com/mec9b426
[01:27] <sebsebseb> Mandi:  You might be able to get that program working in Wine, if not you can do a virtual machine of Windows I expect for it inside Ubuntu
[01:28] <[-jon-]_> when I play video in vlc, it starts flashing red squares all over the video. any ideas?
[01:28] <The_reaper489> lotec: can you give me a little help, again i think...=) plz?
[01:28] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  I suggest you install the Desktop version
[01:28] <josspyker> upgrade 9.10 ,evolution stops working,blank screen and nothing in the logs, any ideas? thanks
[01:28] <Billiard> LOPA: did you try without an xorg.conf
[01:28] <virtuald> Mandi: The server disc don't install a GUI
[01:28] <lotec> sebsebseb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Acer%20Aspire%20One%20250
[01:28] <LOPA> Billiard, i am using 9.04
[01:28] <Billiard> LOPA: ok
[01:28] <Mandi> virtuald: what is a GUI?
[01:28] <sebsebseb> !unr |  lotec
[01:28] <rahmen> Jordan_U: No I haven't.. I was wondering if I should force quit it?
[01:28] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  The server edition is really for advanced users, it doesn't have any GUI
[01:28] <Mandi> theblackmasses: why do you suggest desktop? just so i understand...
[01:28] <Fujk> anyone have ATI HD5870 with dual monitors?
[01:28] <dooglus> as I understand it, there's not really a different between the desktop and server distributions other than which packages are installed by default.  you can install anything on either one of them
[01:28] <LOPA> Billiard, i had 9.10 but was not working and thought an xorg.conf might be needed
[01:28] <virtuald> !GUI
[01:29] <lotec> sebsebseb: i know what it is,
[01:29] <Zeratul2k> epinky: nope, still the same
[01:29] <sebsebseb> !server |  dooglus  Mandi
[01:29] <ardchoille> Mandi: the server edition doesn't install a desktop environment, everything is done via command line
[01:29] <lotec> sebsebseb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Acer%20Aspire%20One%20250
[01:29] <epinky> epinky: :( , no ideas sorry
[01:29] <yogacoop> thx for correcting my irc newbi-isms
[01:29] <dooglus> server-specific kernel?  what's different with it?
[01:29] <evilaim> Man, I'm stupid bored
[01:29] <sebsebseb> dooglus: don't know
[01:29] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  Basically the GUI is what you're used to, with pictures and buttons and places to move your mouse.  The server edition doesn't hjave any of that; it only lets you type in commands. Unless you're an experienced user who knows almost everything about linux, it would be hard for you to get accustomed to it
[01:29] <Zeratul2k> epinky: will have to keep using wired connections for now :s I had the same problem with the university's network a while ago but it was solved when I updated to Karmic
[01:29] <Mandi> k, since i still don't get it, obviously, the proper method is desktop - LOL
[01:29] <sebsebseb> evilaim: try #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[01:30] <josspyker> upgrade 9.10 ,evolution stops working,blank screen and nothing in the logs, any ideas? thanks
[01:30] <Jordan_U> rahmen: NO
[01:30] <lotec> sebsebseb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Acer%20Aspire%20One%20250
[01:30] <Mandi> theblackmasses: thank you, i get it now
[01:30] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you can run server stuff in the destkop version
[01:30] <ldiamond> I upgraded to 9.10, now my laptop CPU goes really hot... top tells me nothing takes CPU
[01:30] <Sagaci> Mandi: don't install the server edition if you need a desktop environment
[01:30] <sebsebseb> Mandi: if you are for example a commercial business though you would probably want to run the server version
[01:30] <rahmen> Jordan_U: would this work? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:30] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  Yeah, and the desktop can function just as a server, for what you require from it
[01:30] <Zeratul2k> epinky: Well, thanks, anyway :D
[01:30] <mikeg3> My ubuntu 9.1 will not boot.  Just installed it, video problem, monitor keeps switching modes, card is nvidia gforce 6150se nforce 430
[01:30] <ldiamond> However, the cpu utilisation applet on the top bar says IOWait is always high.
[01:30] <Billiard> LOPA: xorg.conf is optional in .10 not sure about x in 9.04
[01:30] <sebsebseb> Mandi: also you said something about home school before?   There are many good educational software for Desktop Linux
[01:30] <mikeg3> what should I do?
[01:30] <epinky> Zeratul2k: you're welcome
[01:30] <Mandi> great! thx everyone
[01:31] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  Just curious, why are you making the switch from windows to linux?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> rahmen: There is something you should try first
[01:31] <lotec> sebsebseb: why you not help me?
[01:31] <LOPA> Billiard, anything i can add to the file to make this happen you think?
[01:31] <rahmen> Jordan_U: oki.. I'm listening
[01:31] <sebsebseb> lotec: ,because I don't know much about  the net book version or netbooks in general
[01:31] <Billiard> LOPA: try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:31] <Billiard> LOPA: tell me if it asks for your resolution and stuff
[01:31] <lotec> anyone help me???? wuth netbook
[01:31] <Mandi> sebsebseb: yes the software prog i use for our recordkeeping is only for windows, and the emulators do not work b/c of the .NET framework, although i am planning to try some of the educational software, but i need to dual-boot until i can check it out completely
[01:32] <sebsebseb> !hardware |  lotec
[01:32] <LOPA> Billiard, didnt add anything to the file
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well Mono can run  .NET stuff older ones and such
[01:32] <yogacoop> how can i access gnome-panel controls/preferences?
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Mandi: plus I think there's something else  for .NET as well
[01:32] <Jordan_U> rahmen: In a terminal run "lsof | grep office"
[01:32] <Mandi> theblackmasses: i am switching b/c i'm tired of long updates that essentially slow the pc down, and an os that slowly chews away at hard drive space and RAM
[01:32] <Doorman352> Mandi: Have you consider trying Virtualbox and running your aps on a WIN Xp virtual client.
[01:32] <Mandi> sebsebseb: thx - i will look into that
[01:32] <lotec> sebsebseb: that is no help says ut has to be installed correctley what that mean
[01:32] <Jordan_U> rahmen: That should show all files currently opened by open office
[01:33] <snuffy47> Billiard, Thanks for your help
[01:33] <lotec> anyone help me???? wuth netbook
[01:33] <epinky> lotec: what problem is it?, did you mention it?
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Mandi: also I mentioend virtualization earlier well yes  Virtualbox  you can run Windows inside Ubuntu with that
[01:33] <Mandi> Doorman352: i have looked at that, but i don't think it's what i need
[01:33] <dooglus> lotec: what's the promble?
[01:33] <dooglus> problem?
[01:33] <Billiard> snuffy47: np
[01:33] <Snausages> bring on the promble!
[01:33] <lotec> i see my book listed but says there are some problems, how do i fix these porblems
[01:33] <paragonc> im running 8.10 - and i just install xen-server via apt-get - when it reboot - it threw a low graphics mode warning and wont load X
[01:33] <Jordan_U> rahmen: "lsof | grep office | grep odt" should show only otd documents that are open
[01:33] <Mandi> everyone seems to be trying to talk me out of dual-booting - LOL
[01:33] <paragonc> i was running the NVIDIA driver 180
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Who is being home schooled?
[01:33] <Doorman352> I use it, and since the virtual clients are isolated, I don't update them....so they are quick for legacy aps that dont work in Visat/Win 7
[01:33] <Billiard> LOPA: check if xrandr is available in 9.04 try running xrandr
[01:33] <Mandi> my 4 children - ages 4 to 9
[01:33] <lotec>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Acer%20Aspire%20One%20250
[01:34] <mikeg3> My ubuntu 9.1 will not boot.  Just installed it, video problem, monitor keeps switching modes, card is nvidia gforce 6150se nforce 430.  what should I do?
[01:34] <epinky> lotec: what problems?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well really dual booting sucks, but sometimes it has to be done
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Mandi: oh right well loads of great software for them in Desktop Linux
[01:34] <perimetric> Im runnins a vnc ser ver but when my firend connect all he sees is my desktop as if no windows are open
[01:34] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, thanks, learned a bunch RE: Broadcom wireless...
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Mandi: there's Edubuntu by the way,  which  is really for schools and such, but you can run most/all of those programs in standard Ubuntu as well
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Mandi: also the website is good at explaining what is available
[01:34] <theblackmasses> Mandi:  That makes sense..I run variations of linux on older hardware as it allows the computers to function. Crunchbang linux is great. Good luck with it
[01:34] <rahmen> Jordan_U: Yeah I can see the file.. but the problem is that I opened it again after the close.. so it's prolly just the old version..?
[01:34] <yogacoop> lotec: what is your question
[01:34] <lu6cifer> is there any way to sync my home partition with the root partition of a different system?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !edubuntu | Mandi
[01:35] <Mandi> sebsebseb: yes, i have looked at the website for that and i plan to install it as soon as i get one of my computers running the whole os, instead of the live CD
[01:35] <lotec> i see my book listed but says there are some problems, how do i fix these porblems
[01:35] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb,  dual booting may suck for you but tothers may need to , like me , and it's not so bad
[01:35] <dooglus> lu6cifer: look at 'rsync'
[01:35] <LOPA> Billiard, i can run it but when i add a mode i get errors
[01:35] <lu6cifer> ok
[01:35] <epinky> lotec: is it an ASUS?
[01:35] <owen1> jongbergs: ok
[01:35] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: depends on hardware, user, and apps, sometimes dual boot is needed yes
[01:35] <Billiard> LOPA: what is listed for maximum resolution on xrandr?
[01:35] <lotec> epinky  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Acer%20Aspire%20One%20250
[01:35] <Mandi> sebsebseb, ubottu: isn't edubuntu an add-on to ubuntu now?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !bot |  Mandi
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Mandi: It used to be for a while, but  now it's a proper distro again, there was a good session about  Edubuntu for the 9.10 Open Week
[01:36] <sebsebseb> !openweek | Mandi
[01:36] <LOPA> Billiard,  1280 1260
[01:36] <emma> sebsebseb: isn't openweek over?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that factoid is a bit oudated now it seems, but yes that's the link
[01:36] <Jordan_U> rahmen: If you only see one then yes, it's whatever version you currently have
[01:36] <lotec> epinky  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Acer%20Aspire%20One%20250
[01:36] <sebsebseb> emma: yes it's over, but the logs are there
[01:36] <lu6cifer> dooglus: well, it's a bit more complicated than that...I installed the root partition of ubuntu 9.10 over an existing kubuntu root partition, and now my original kubuntu home partition isn't functioning...
[01:37] <sebsebseb> emma: over untill next time
[01:37] <rahmen> Jordan_U: So I'm toasted? I really need that file..
[01:37] <linuxguy2009> Mandi: You can install "edubuntu-desktop" and get the same thing yes.
[01:37] <Mandi> sebsebseb: thx, do you recommend i do that distro instead of ubuntu, then? is the main difference the default packets? or does it operate differently?
[01:37] <andi_> hello guys, unlike 9.04, in 9.10 everytime an partition about to be mounted, authentication required. This bugs me, can it be change?
[01:38] <epinky> lotec: BTW, you know what problems you have?
[01:38] <paragonc> blah this is totally borked - x wont load anymore
[01:38] <linuxguy2009> Mandi: Different default packages. Ubuntu can be transformed into Edubuntu and vice versa,
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Ubuntu is the base really,  so that's the Linux kernel and things like that
[01:38] <Jordan_U> rahmen: At this point it will probably take less time to just re-do it
[01:38] <Mandi> linuxguy2009, sebsebseb: thx, i get it
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Mandi:  Ubuntu uses Gnome as it's  graphical user interface and for a lot of the programs it comes with
[01:38] <lotec> epinky: i have not tried to install yet, if it is all not going to work. i sent you a link
[01:39] <paragonc> sudo bash NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run - it says it cant find kernel source
[01:39] <rahmen> Jordan_U: It's my exam work I've been writing on for the whole day.. are you sure it'll take that long?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Edubuntu also uses Gnome,  and there's Kubuntu with KDE and  Xubuntu with XFCE as well
[01:39] <Guest58919> ?
[01:39] <Billiard> LOPA: give this a try http://pastebin.com/m6442f014  backup your old xorg.conf, in case it doesnt work
[01:39] <Guest58919> h
[01:39] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: Should ask you to build the kernel source.
[01:39] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you can have Gnome, KDE, and XFCE all installed in the same Ubuntu install, and then from the log in screen select which one to load up, and one will be the default
[01:39] <acovrig> sound not working...
[01:39] <paragonc> linuxguy2009: it does but it cant find it
[01:39] <Jordan_U> rahmen: If you haven't found it by now
[01:39] <acovrig> ?
[01:40] <epinky> lotec: look at this http://whatareyoublogging.blogspot.com/2008/09/ubuntu-netbook-remix-on-acer-aspire-one.html
[01:40] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: 9.10?
[01:40] <Mandi> sebsebseb: wow, it sounds confusing - what would be the purpose of having all those derivatives? instead of just choosing one?
[01:40] <paragonc> it says no matching pre-compiled kernel interface
[01:40] <acovrig> 9.1 ubuntu sound not working
[01:40] <paragonc> 8.10
[01:40] <dooglus> paragonc: you need to install linux-headers-generic I think?
[01:40] <BluesKaj> paragonc, not sudo bash , just sudo
[01:40] <Jordan_U> rahmen: At least re-writing it you have an idea of when it will be done, you could waste a day and be no closer trying to recover what you lost
[01:40] <dooglus> !info linux-headers-generic | paragonc
[01:40] <owen1> jongbergs: i tried and even when choosing to try without installing, one screen is black and the other has green lights on it.
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well  really the whole point of Desktop Linux is to provice choice,  yes choice for nearly any type of app that you can think of, from word proccessing, to graphics design, to games,  to browsers, etc
[01:40] <acovrig> 9.1 ubuntu sound not working
[01:40] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: Go to nvidias website and download the newest one they work fine.
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Mandi: provide above  I did a typeo
[01:41] <Jordan_U> rahmen: Sorry, I have to leave. Good luck
[01:41] <owen1> i am trying to view live cd of xubuntu and see black screen. any tips?
[01:41] <owen1> (cd cd has no defects)
[01:41] <DisguisedAngel> what command line command can I use to extract files from a tar to a specific location? I can't do it graphically because I need to sudo it.
[01:41] <rahmen> Jordan_U: =/ well thanks for at least trying...
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Ubuntu  has an  ok selection of default apps,  then other apps can easilly be installed
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Mandi: as well
[01:41] <Mandi> sebsebseb: it's good when you know what you're doing - LOL - a little overwhelming when you're first learning
[01:41] <mikeg3> Can anyone point me to help for video problem?  Brand new 9.1 ubuntu won't boot, monitor tries mode switching -- seems stuck in loop -- video card is nvidia 6150se nforce 430 monitor is dell 1702fp
[01:41] <linuxguy2009> paragonc:  Did you stop the gdm first and then you have to restart it after,
[01:42] <LOPA> Billiard, what do i after saving it?
[01:42] <paragonc> no
[01:42] <acovrig> karmic sound help needed!
[01:42] <epinky> lotec: it's using UNR 8.04, however with latest there are some problems with audio and keyboard. What operating system is running now?
[01:42] <lotec> xp
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it's quicker to get apps using the commands,  but  9.10 has the  Software Centre which is a nice graphical program, that has replaced the former add/remove,  in 10.04 released at the end of April it will also replace  the more advanced graphical way of getting software, the Synaptic Package Manager
[01:43] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: you can use gksudo file-roller for a GUI with super user.
[01:43] <paragonc> do i need to download the kernel source?
[01:43] <DisguisedAngel> mikeg3, ubuntu forums are great. SHould have lots of video help. You will likely need to change your xorg file to use a vesa video driver (I think that's the one) until you can download and install the correct nvidia drivers.
[01:43] <lotec> epinky: xp
[01:43] <epinky> lotec: my advice is that "if it works then don't touch it" :)
[01:43] <DisguisedAngel> linuxguy2009, Thanks!
[01:43] <Billiard> LOPA: restart x, logout, then does ctrl+alt+backspace work in .04,   if not    ctrl+alt+f1    sudo service gdm restart    should do it
[01:43] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: welcome
[01:44] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, is there anyway i can give auto authentication when mounting an alien partition? Such as my hard disk partition that use ntfs format.
[01:44] <paragonc> NVIDIA 190 is throwing the same errors
[01:44] <paragonc> i had this working for like 6 months now :(
[01:44] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: gksudo is just like sudo but for graphical apps.
[01:44] <Mandi> sebsebseb: aside from the official documentation on the website, what are some other REALLY good resources for learning the whole linux thing - i'm a reader/doer, so i work best by reading books and trying things out, but i'm not good at just diving in - any suggestions?
[01:44] <DisguisedAngel> ah, awesome. Thanks for the tip!
[01:44] <mikeg3> how do I get to xorg file?  clueless about linux command line here!
[01:45] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: welcome
[01:45] <Billiard> mikeg3: its located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <BluesKaj> paragonc,  download the driver from the nvidia site
[01:45] <paragonc> BluesKaj: i did
[01:45] <DisguisedAngel> Billiard, thanks... I was gonna have to look that one up rofl... Don't have it all memorized yet
[01:45] <lotec> epinky: maybe ill just install to a 4gb sd card and boot ubuntu that way
[01:46] <DisguisedAngel> paragonc, did you have some other nvidia drivers installed before?
[01:46] <sebsebseb> Mandi: 9.10 is an ok release, but  I am not that happy with it for various reasons, and I have been using Ubuntu since the second release in 2005, with another distro before it for a bit.  Plus done a lot of distro trying in the past with Live CD's to begin with, and then  virtual machines.   Also 9.10 is a standard release with only  18 months of support on the desktop and three years for the server version.  Where as  Long Term  Support
[01:46] <sebsebseb> releaess such as 8.04  or  the not yet released 10.04  get  three years of support on the destkop and  five years for the server version.  support being security updates
[01:46] <paragonc> it says "Unable to find kernel source tree "
[01:46] <sebsebseb> !10.04 |  Mandi
[01:46] <BluesKaj> paragonc, then find the driver, wgere sid it dl to
[01:46] <epinky> lotec: good idea!, it's better to try before installing :)
[01:46] <jpds> sebsebseb: And professional support.
[01:46] <paragonc> DisguiseAngel: I had 180 running fine until i install xen-server
[01:46] <sebsebseb> jpds: From Canonical you mean?
[01:47] <mikeg3> thank you all for your help--hopefully I will get it to boot
[01:47] <jpds> sebsebseb: Yes.
[01:47] <BluesKaj> paragonc, where did it DL tp
[01:47] <paragonc> BluesKaj: Dl tp?
[01:47] <Mandi> any suggestions for linux related reading material (besides the ubuntu site)?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> jpds: They don't do  paid support for 9.04?
[01:48] <DisguisedAngel> mikeg3, you can use "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit that file. You will need to find the video driver section and change it to vesa
[01:48] <BluesKaj> download to, paragonc
[01:48] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: My guess is that you have something missing from your system or something left behind that shouldnt be there. Download the newest nvidia driver and do a fresh install and start over. Itll work out of the box and its very easy to do.
[01:48] <Billiard> Mandi: for doing what?
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[01:48] <sharpen047> how would i resize my linux partition while booting into it?
[01:48] <jpds> sebsebseb: We don't do support for EOL releases.
[01:48] <Billiard> sharpen047: while booting into it?
[01:48] <paragonc> linuxGuy2009 : i have the new 190 drivers too - they throw the same error
[01:48] <sebsebseb> jpds: 9.04 is not EOL just yet, also  you work for Canonical you put "we"
[01:48] <perimetric> Mandi: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[01:48] <Mandi> Billiard: just for understanding ubuntu/linux and learning "basic" commands
[01:48] <albech> anyone have experience with Synergy between a mac and ubuntu?
[01:48] <linuxguy2009> sharpen047: Use your live CD and use Gparted so the filesystem wont be mounted.
[01:49] <Mandi> perimetric, sebsebseb: thx - got it
[01:49] <paragonc> BluesKaj: it downloaded to my users home directory
[01:49] <sharpen047> linuxguy2009, ty
[01:49] <helpme> i have a question about running ubuntu on my already windows computer?!?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> paragonc, /home?
[01:49] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: 9.10 is old and might not be supported also Im not sure. Do a fresh install is my recomendation. Might be a good time for 9.10 maybe?
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Mandi: If you want something  that is more stable and  you can rely on for say three years without  doing an Ubuntu version upgrade, well yes LTS
[01:49] <linuxguy2009> 8.10 is old I meant
[01:49] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, what kind of question?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: I think 8.10 becomes EOL this April or around then
[01:50] <paragonc> i dont have the resources to do that -
[01:50] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: right on
[01:50] <paragonc> blueKaj: /home/paragonc/
[01:50] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: what ashame since overall  that has been my favourite release since 8.04,  it's  just since I wanted Ext4 etc,  yeah I am not running that
[01:50] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i'm not sure if stability is really an issue, i don't mind doing upgrades
[01:51] <bonez2046> is Ext4 included now, with 9.10?
[01:51] <lstarnes> bonez2046: yes
[01:51] <helpme> i want to know if when i install ubuntu on my windows computer, if it will delete/corrupt/change any files/programs that i have
[01:51] <sebsebseb> bonez2046: Ext4 is the default for clean installs
[01:51] <sebsebseb> bonez2046: of 9.10
[01:51] <lstarnes> bonez2046: it has been included since 9.04
[01:51] <sebsebseb> bonez2046: Ext3 9.04 upgrades won't be turned into Ext4 on upgrade
[01:51] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Ive heard that from a few people but I hated 8.10. Never worked right for my box for some reason.
[01:51] <phenom> After the Karmic upgrade I now get a "critical" bug as described in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8323583#post8323583
[01:51] <phenom> Any help?
[01:51] <Billiard> helpme: only if you tell it to delete your windows parition
[01:51] <bonez2046> sebsebseb: so I just did the 'update-manager -d' routine.. still using ext3..
[01:52] <[zaf]-Coral> Anybody know of a nice database graphical designing tool, something to create the graphical layout for a database representation :? I do NOT want something that actually implements the database
[01:52] <BluesKaj> paragonc, in the terminal sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-xxxxx.run     xxx meaning the driver number for your card
[01:52] <bonez2046> how would I upgrade.. convert over to Ext4? is it compelling enough to convert?
[01:52] <paragonc> BluesKaj : the installer runs - it just fails
[01:52] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: great release still my favourite overall  even though what I just mentioned, plus how  the ethernet woudn't work on the other computer, but by the time  I got round to finally upgrading from 8.04 on there,  9.04  was out anyway so :)  so put on with Ext4 and nice fast boot up shut down and disk checking :)
[01:52] <Billiard> [zaf]-Coral: phpmyadmin
[01:52] <courpse> bonez2046, You cannot convert, it has to be a fresh install.
[01:52] <helpme> but i just want to try it out, what happens if i prefer windows over ubuntu? will i be able to completely restore my settings that i have right now?
[01:52] <Mandi> thank you all, i think that's all the q's i have today - bye
[01:52] <linuxguy2009> phenom: My Uncle recently did an upgrade from 9.04 and was missing all kinds of stuff on his box. Doesnt suprise me. I always do a clean install after backing up my home.
[01:52] <Flannel> [zaf]-Coral: UML things will, Umbrello is one (QT), or you can just use something like Dia
[01:53] <sebsebseb> Mandi: see above  what I just  put to linuxguy2009  sometimes  upgrades or newever versions can mess something up
[01:53] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, it will not mess with your windows files and such. If you have enough room on your hard drive then during the install, when you get to the partition part, make sure you let it do the configuration, using the rest of the drive to install ubuntu on. DO NOT do it manually unless you know what you are doing and DO NOT select "use entire disk"
[01:53] <The_reaper489> lotec: are you there?
[01:53] <bonez2046> courpse: so, back all up to other media, do fresh install, then reload /home and applications?
[01:53] <[zaf]-Coral> Billiard, not implementing a database :/
[01:53] <BluesKaj> paragonc, you were using bash , don't put that in the command
[01:53] <[zaf]-Coral> Flannel, thanks will check it out
[01:53] <_ged> hi, in windows, there's a SERVICES right? on the "services.msc", then you can start or stop the services in there, in ubuntu, how can i start or stop a service??
[01:53] <courpse> bonez2046, Sure.
[01:53] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, if you just want to try it out, try the live version, just slip the install CD in and run it
[01:53] <phenom> linuxguy2009, Yea, it's very frustrating. Every ubuntu upgrade breaks something,
[01:53] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, the performance will be a bit less since it is runnign off of CD but you will get the idea.
[01:54] <paragonc> BluesKaj: sudo: /home/jackmurphy/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run: command not found
[01:54] <Billiard> _ged: they are called daemons most of them you can control with   sudo service <daemonname>  stop|start|restart
[01:54] <linuxguy2009> phenom: Right thats why I avoid it at all costs. hehe
[01:54] <helpme> yea... about "slipping a CD in" i have a mini 10v and i have no CD drive, i want ot try the downloadable netbook remix
[01:54] <_ged> Billiard: how can i view the running services?
[01:54] <epinky> phenom: is it a joke?
[01:54] <paragonc> sudo sh /home/jackmurphy/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run works
[01:54] <johnny05> How can I check if the madwifi drivers are already installed?
[01:55] <linuxguy2009> phenom: Best advice I can give is to download the ISO and backup your home folder. Fresh install.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: well GDM 2 also lacks features such as themeing like the old one, but this apparnatly will get fixed in a later version
[01:55] <paragonc> but then it wont load the kernel sourcew
[01:55] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, then you can use a USB stick, let me find you the program I use to put it on the USB stick, brb.
[01:55] <Billiard> _ged: sudo service --status-all
[01:55] <helpme> ok
[01:55] <phenom> epinky, Is what a joke?
[01:55] <BluesKaj> paragonc, sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run   copy and paste that into the terminal
[01:55] <_ged> Billiard: thanks
[01:55] <LOPA> Billiard, no go with the xorg.conf
[01:55] <phenom> linuxguy2009, Yea, I've had serious issues upgrading ubuntu releases since fiesty
[01:55] <Billiard> LOPA: same prob or what?
[01:56] <DLeeBug> !ask
[01:56] <LOPA> crashed
[01:56] <epinky> phenom: your link  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8323583#post8323583 ?
[01:56] <paragonc> sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run: command not found
[01:56] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: oh Mandi left just before I told  her/him to see what I put to you, oh well
[01:56] <Roasted> I installed cairo dock but I didnt get ANY menu items. I had cairo dock installed before and Id id get menu items. wtf happened this time around that my system was like "actually, no, no menu items this time." ??????
[01:56] <Billiard> LOPA: try commenting out that Driver line in it
[01:56] <phenom> epinky, No, that describes my problem to a "T".
[01:56] <phenom> I haven't been able to find any thing else on it.
[01:57] <owen1> how to install text-based ubuntu with xubuntu desktop cd?
[01:57] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ download the windows version of this program, then download the Ubuntu from their website and then run the unetbootin program and it will ask you for your image, that's the ISO you will be downloading. After that, boot your computer into bios to ensure it is set to boot from USB before hard drive.
[01:57] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Hmm i didnt know that. Im thinking when 10.04 LTS comes out I may stick with it until the next LTS not decided yet. Just for stability and reliability. Plus it helps when buying commercial apps for it like Nero Linxu 4 that i just bought will stay compatible with my ubuntu version.
[01:57] <paragonc> BluesKaj: does it matter how i launch that file? It executes when i prepend it with bash - and then fails
[01:57] <owen1> when i hit f6 (other options) i see: acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmraid, free software only
[01:57] <johnny05> Please guys. How can I tell if a driver is installed from the command line
[01:58] <BluesKaj> paragonc,bash isn't required
[01:58] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: well on the other computer I might stick untill  10.10  if  10.04 turns out to be not what I want on there, like was the case with 9.10
[01:58] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: or just  eventaully put another distro on
[01:58] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: What peice of hardware is it?
[01:58] <helpme> and you're 100% sure that i will still have windows and all of my stuff in the end? sorry for being annoying
[01:58] <johnny05> wifi adapter
[01:58] <Manan> Does anyone here have any experience with andLinux (www.andlinux.org)?
[01:58] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: uh that was meant to say, stick with 9.04  untill 10.10....
[01:58] <johnny05> checking if madwifi is properly installed. can't bring up the interface
[01:59] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Try to connect to the network is a good way to test it. Or "sudo lshw -c lan"
[01:59] <BluesKaj> paragonc, make you cd to the dir where the driver is located then run the command
[01:59] <paragonc> does xen requires i sepcific nvidia driver?
[01:59] <johnny05> the interface isn't up at all
[01:59] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[01:59] <JonathanEllis> Im trying to install Karmic Net Book Remix on a Eee PC 900 from a usb stick I created with usb-creator. Before creating the usb stick I verified the image with md5sum. The computer gets as far as SYSLINUX 3.53 but stops with a boot: prompt. When I press enter the computer says Could not find kernel image: linux. Has anyone else come across this problem?
[01:59] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: i can connect to the internet through the eth0 connection, i want the ath0 to work.
[02:00] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, when you boot it from USB (or CD) it doesn't install anything. It just has an icon on the desktop that says install... if you don't want to install don't click it. While you are booting from USB ensure that you just select the top option that is defaultly selected.
[02:00] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: try the command I gave and pastebin that.
[02:00] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: and I don't want to go back to 9.04 on this one, or  stay with 9.10 untill April,  I am thinking about putting another distro on here again.   10.04 will probably be quite a lot better than 9.10 :)  and if not well that's bad, since it's going to be the next long term support
[02:00] <helpme> ok, thanks, ill have to go check it out now
[02:00] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009:  and I don't want to run development versions  from the hard disk of 10.04 either
[02:00] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, np, hollar back to these guys here if you need help once you get in.
[02:01] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: http://pastebin.com/d5b317d23
[02:01] <phaer> My pythonpath is lost. I can't start software-center, it says "ImportError: No module named sexy". Gwibber says the same about gtk. python-sexy is installed. what can i do?
[02:01] <BluesKaj> paragonc, check your nvidia card;  lspci | grep VGA
[02:01] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Yeah i agree hope to god 10.04 LTS is good and stable. I read LTS is based off testing and not unstable of Debian or something like that.
[02:01] <Roasted> I installed cairo dock but I didnt get ANY menu items. I had cairo dock installed before and Id id get menu items. wtf happened this time around that my system was like "actually, no, no menu items this time." ??????
[02:01] <paragonc> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
[02:01] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: no  all Ubuntu verisons are based on testing I think  or  the later ones or whatever
[02:01] <sebsebseb> !debian |  linuxguy2009
[02:01] <Twinkletoes> I'm trying to get NDIS drivers working for my wifi, following this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper.  However, it assumes a PCI wireless card, but mine is a USB dongle.  Are there any other instructions?
[02:02] <helpme> im stuck on the installation... the "distribution" what do i pick in the 2 drop-downs?
[02:02] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:02] <helpme> download*
[02:02] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Oh ok thats what i originally believed too. Must have read some rubbish then.
[02:02] <ben-m> i noticed that the volume control in 9.10 will change the PCM volume as well as the Master Control, how do i stop this?
[02:02] <Mandi> hello, i'm back - i'm uring the liveCD on my slow desktop computer and i keep getting an error saying "Sorry, the program "jockey-gtk" closed unexpectedly." during start-up. Is this an issue I need to be concerned about after a full install? or is it safe to assume it's something funny happening during the live session?
[02:03] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: any ideas? i'm doing this from command line only.
[02:03] <paragonc> hahaha sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-xen-server
[02:03] <Mandi> sorry - "using", not "uring"...
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Mandi: oh right that kind of message
[02:03] <Arsin> Hey, my friend screwed up his grub.cfg and can't boot into Ubuntu, he touched it so we could possibly try to get XP to run (We think the Ubuntu partiton corrupted it). Is there a way we can just recover the data from the XP partition and restart from the begining/
[02:03] <paragonc> nope still failed
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Mandi: sometimes  Live CD gives an error message of some sort,  shoudn't be anything to worry about, how much RAM by the way?
[02:03] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Looks like the wireless card is detected just fine.
[02:03] <hyperstream> when i install Ubuntu onto a external USB 1TB hard drive, i made a 10gig/boot and a 100gig / mount point and a 4gig swaparea..... Do i install the bootloader into /boot partition? or to the drive itself sdd ? or /boot -> sdd2?
[02:03] <Mandi> sebsebseb: not sure, but probably not much - 16 MB?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you could boot the CD again just to see if the error message comes up or not
[02:04] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:04] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: it does. so how can i tell if it's the madwifi driver or something else?
[02:04] <Roasted> I installed cairo dock but I didnt get ANY menu items. I had cairo dock installed before and Id id get menu items. wtf happened this time around that my system was like "actually, no, no menu items this time." ??????
[02:04] <Roasted> dafkl;SDKF:ALSDKAS
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Mandi: 16MB RAM uhmmm I  don't think so
[02:04] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Do you have the wireless antenna turned on, on your router?
[02:04] <krisidian> hi what's the correct apt-get command for removing a package?
[02:04] <hyperstream> Arsin: find a data recovery software, and put the hard drive into another machine and do a recovery
[02:04] <bonez2046> what is the biggest difference one would see between running on Ext3 and Ext4
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Mandi: newer versions of the Ubuntu Live CD  woudn't even boot up with that amoutn
[02:04] <DisguisedAngel> what does LTS stand for in reference to ubuntu releases?
[02:04] <epinky> mehedi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_rLUhyCxZw
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Mandi: What used to be on the computer?
[02:04] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: routers fine, i'm connected to it on this computer.
[02:04] <hyperstream> when i install Ubuntu onto a external USB 1TB hard drive, i made a 10gig/boot and a 100gig / mount point and a 4gig swaparea..... Do i install the bootloader into /boot partition? or to the drive itself sdd ? or /boot -> sdd2?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !lts |  DisguisedAngel
[02:04] <Mandi> sebsebseb: it happened twice consecutively; i'd have the check the RAM, and i don't know how to do that with the live session going, i'd have to reboot windows and that will take about 30 minutes
[02:04] <DisguisedAngel> thx
[02:04] <cretep007> Long Term Support
[02:05] <Prodego> !Lucid
[02:05] <Mandi> sebsebseb: windows XP professional, and I also have XP home installed on there
[02:05] <sebsebseb> Mandi: 30 minutes to boot Windows?
[02:05] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Did the device work out of the box? Also did you install other drivers?
[02:05] <BluesKaj> paragonc, did you try to find what nvidia card you have so we can match up the driver , in the terminal , lspci | grep BGA
[02:05] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok how old is the computer?
[02:05] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Your trying to see which on actually worked?
[02:05] <paragonc>  GeForce 8400 GS
[02:05] <hyperstream> a simple main drive or /boot partition can help me here guys please...
[02:05] <helpme> i have a question about which dropdown files i should download on the UNetbootin download for netbook ubuntu
[02:05] <BluesKaj> paragonc, did you try to find what nvidia card you have so we can match up the driver , in the terminal , lspci | grep VGA
[02:05] <hyperstream> when i install Ubuntu onto a external USB 1TB hard drive, i made a 10gig/boot and a 100gig / mount point and a 4gig swaparea..... Do i install the bootloader into /boot partition? or to the drive itself sdd ? or /boot -> sdd2?
[02:05] <Mandi> sebsebseb: maybe i'm exaggerating a little, but it's at least 15 - i have enough time to start it, then start laundry, go upstairs and get coffee, then come back & it's still loading
[02:05] <[zaf]-Coral> Flannel, Thanks Umbrello is working fine :)
[02:05] <paragonc> BluesKaj:  GeForce 8400 GS
[02:05] <Mandi> sebsebseb: the CPU is about 6 yrs old
[02:06] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok 15 minutes to boot Windows that's  not right
[02:06] <sebsebseb> it really isn't
[02:06] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: the adapter works when running a desktop install of ubuntu. right now i'm trying a minimal install. compiled the madwifi driver, but not sure if i installed it correctly.
[02:06] <linuxguy2009> helpme: Just go manually download the ISO and then pount unetbootin to the ISO and drive to write to.
[02:06] <sebsebseb> Mandi: I  remember this old lap top  from  about uhmm  2000 I guess,  with 6GB  hard disk and  XP Pro,    and  that loads up in  a few minutes or so
[02:06] <DisguisedAngel> what is the keyboard short cut to close out of x and everything and go to command line?
[02:06] <hyperstream> when i install Ubuntu onto a external USB 1TB hard drive, i made a 10gig/boot and a 100gig / mount point and a 4gig swaparea..... Do i install the bootloader into /boot partition? or to the drive itself sdd ? or /boot -> sdd2?
[02:07] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i know - my dad is an IT guy and i keep trying to get him to help me out, but he's always too busy to give me any pointers other than defrag, disk cleanup, & ccleaner
[02:07] <sebsebseb> Mandi: DId you disk defrag Windows?  what kind of stuff is installed on it?
[02:07] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Well if the device wasnt detected before and now it is detected after a driver install I would have to say yeah. I miss something?
[02:07] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, when you message someone, put their name in front, so it highlights for them to see, so they don't miss it. You need the 32 bit 9.10 release.
[02:07] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: so is there any way to check if a particular driver has been loaded
[02:07] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Well there are ways to make WIndows run better, but you want to go Ubuntu anyway, and  that's a good way to go
[02:08] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i defrag all the time, and it defrags weekly on a schedule
[02:08] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: No idea.
[02:08] <helpme> DisguisedAngel i dont kno where to go from the first little download page
[02:08] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, hold on a sec let me look
[02:09] <johnny05> well, whatever. it's detected. i guess i just need to configure it now? wpa?
[02:09] <paolo> !
[02:09] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i think i uninstalled MS office, and some other stuff - last time i checked i had over 50% of the hard drive available; anyway - the speed of that pc is one of the reasons i want to switch to ubuntu, besides the free factor
[02:09] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Do you stil have the ISO for  Ubuntu?
[02:09] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Was there a driver to begin with? And you wanted to replace it?
[02:09] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, did you download unetbootin? I assume you have it pulled up right now, is that correct?
[02:09] <Mandi> sebsebseb: yes
[02:09] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:09] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:09] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Your not telling me something here.
[02:10] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:10] <LOPA> Billiard, no go X crashes
[02:10] <TDJACR> !repeat > mehedi
[02:10] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok it's probably fine, but it's a good idea to do a quick md5sum  check to make sure  it's a good one.  a lot easier to do it in Ubuntu as well,  yes you can on the Live CD
[02:10] <mehedi> is it possible to add customed sound for incoming mail in evolution?
[02:10] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, yes i have the initial download window up, and i do not kno where to go from there
[02:10] <Mandi> sebsebseb: how do i do that?
[02:10] <Billiard> LOPA: sorry, idk
[02:10] <hades__> does anyone have a Vaio laptop?
[02:11] <LOPA> Billiard, thanks for trying
[02:11] <pigphish> Any experience with OCROPUS?
[02:11] <Billiard> LOPA: what was wrong on karmic same thing?
[02:11] <zhangxiong> hello ,boys and girls!
[02:11] <johnny05> linuxguy2009: if a minimal ubuntu install of 9.04 has a wireless driver, than it did. i tried installing madwifi. i would like to know if i did it successfully?
[02:11] <LOPA> Billiard, karmic?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Mandi: also before the psyical  CD boots up, there's an option on the CD that checks if the psyical CD is ok or not
[02:11] <linuxguy2009> hades__: Whats your real question?
[02:11] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, for distribution select "Ubuntu" for the next dropdown select "9.10_Live"
[02:11] <HowardtheDuck> hey.  will it mess anything up if i remove gnome-screensaver?  i heard if i remove parts of ubuntu it will crash my system when it does updates
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Mandi: uh I meant before the live sesson on it boots up or the install  option
[02:11] <Billiard> LOPA: 9.10
[02:12] <LOPA> same resolution prob
[02:12] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, haha sorry i didnt see the scroll bar
[02:12] <LOPA> Billiard, they got rid of 915resolution tool
[02:12] <Mandi> sebsebseb: sorry - i got it, no the integrity of the CD is fine - i used it on two of the 3 laptops here with no probs; the desktop is the only one with the error message
[02:12] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, then if you have your USB inserted and it is selected on the bottom, just hit the Ok button
[02:12] <LOPA> Billiard, that worked
[02:12] <linuxguy2009> johnny05: Not sure. I personally would have done a "sudo lshw -c lan" before and after the install and it would tell you right away.
[02:12] <hades__> linuxguy2009: i wanna be able to turn off the devices but as being a noob am stuck on the easiest way to do it
[02:12] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, it's all good. We have all been there and learned the basics... you will get the hang of it really fast.
[02:12] <linuxguy2009> hades__: Turn off what devices?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Mandi: the ISO is probably fine yes, still  easy to do the check,  plus if you do this from the Live CD,  your going to learn a little  Desktop Linux already
[02:13] <hades__> WWAN, bluetooth, dvd, usb, eth0,
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Mandi: before you even have a proper install on any computer?  there is no psyical install yet right?
[02:13] <Mandi> sebsebseb: ok, doing it - geez, twist my arm why don't ya...
[02:13] <linuxguy2009> hades__: I would say to check your BIOS for those features.
[02:13] <Mandi> sebsebseb, yes - no physical install yet
[02:13] <helpme> DisgustedAngel, do you personally use ubuntu? and have you used windows?
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok  since Ubuntu 7.10 (October 2007)   Ubuntu has been able to read and write to Windows NTFS partitions no problem,  as long as Windows shut it down properly
[02:14] <venger> anyone else had the install issue where you are asked for the disk mid install?  this has been a known issue at least with NEC optiarc drives since 8.x.   I think i may have resorted to a debootstrap method but i'm wonder if there is any other work around
[02:14] <tuzi> hello,everyone!
 it can be done by typing sudo echo 1 > /location/wwanpower etc...
[02:14] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, be sure not to judge Ubuntu's performance off of the live run. Menus, programs, everything will take a bit longer to load because it has to grab it from the USB.
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Mandi: It's in the WIndows partiton yes?
[02:14] <Mandi> sebsebseb: are you saying that the physical install will overwrite windows? - if that's what you're saying, then good - that's what i want on the desktop computer
[02:14] <linuxguy2009> venger: Maybe use unetbootin as an alternative on that machine?
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Mandi: no that's not what I am saying, but yes you can easilly do that
[02:15] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, yes I personally use ubuntu on all my computers and yes I have used windows 3.1, 95, XP, Vista and 7
[02:15] <Mandi> sebsebseb: ok, then i have no idea what you are asking - what's in the windows partition?
[02:15] <linuxguy2009> hades__:  So you found your answer then?
[02:15] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, it says its done with the instalation but the progress bar is at 0
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Mandi:  Ok do you know what a partition is?
[02:15] <BluesKaj> paragonc, try this driver, but you must remove any other installed nvidia drivers first . Then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[02:15] <Mandi> sebsebseb: in theory, but i've never worked with them
[02:15] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, the unetbootin program says it is done?
[02:16] <paragonc> BluesKaj: how do i remove other drivers?
[02:16] <Mandi> sebsebseb: well not on purpose, anyway
[02:16] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok well when your installing Ubuntu from the Live CD,  you will be doing that
 well ye but typing it in for every device takes the piss, can you give me a pointer on how to script it?
[02:16] <helpme> yes, but i pulled up the files on my usb, and it's not there
[02:16] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, then try this, just a sec.
[02:16] <venger> linuxguy2009, i'll look at the frugal install option (short on spare usb sticks :) )   thanks for the suggest
[02:17] <mdeonte> I HAZ SSL
[02:17] <linuxguy2009> hades__: Yes if I remember correctly there is a file /etc/rc.local where you can script commands right there on bootup. Think thats the right file.
[02:17] <tuzi> zhangxiong
[02:17] <tuzi> ,where are you ?
[02:17] <paragonc> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-185
[02:17] <tuzi> zhangxiong,where are you  ?
[02:17] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: Check your apt sources are enabled.
 i wanna be able to control wen they are on and off ie. wen i'm on battery or plugged in
[02:18] <linuxguy2009> hades__: Good luck on that.
[02:18] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, download Ubuntu 9.10 for 32bit directly from here. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[02:18] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove name-of-otherdriver
[02:18] <paragonc> linuxguy2009: which ones? i use apt-get
[02:18] <Mandi> sebsebseb: well i understand that, but i'm not sure what you were asking when you said "it's in the windows partition yes?"
[02:18] <GnuSeb> help, I got a sony f-v320 mic and i installed skype but it's not working, for some reason it's not receiving the sound, i checked the sound settings and they're all way up, what should i do?
[02:18] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: all of em personally.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Mandi: also if your going to check  the ISO from the Live CD,  first you need to open the Windows partition so it is mounted.  then I think  it will be mounted in /media  or /mt  and uh.   then system > administration  > terminal    cd  /media/disk1 for example.   Can cheat also and make this much easier :)    and I asked if the ISO is in the WIndows partition
[02:18] <IdleOne> !hi | cheri703
[02:19] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, it will download as an ISO file. Once it is done, use the unetbootin program again, but don't use the distribution part, instead drop down to the part in the program that asks for the ISO, select that Ubuntu ISO you downloaded and load it up onto your USB with unetbootin.
[02:19] <Mandi> sebsebseb: oh, the iso is on one of the laptops
[02:19] <BluesKaj> ok, too many cooks ...bbl when the kitchen isn't so full
[02:19] <cheri703> hi, thanks for the welcome bot :)
[02:19] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, thats gonna take a while... 2hrs left in the download
[02:19] <linuxguy2009> helpme: USB drive needs to be fat32 BTW.
[02:19] <paragonc> how do i do that? i ran sudo apt-get update
[02:19] <helpme> disguisedangel, ok ill write that down
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: really  Canonical should be making  it more clear to people to md5sum an ISO for Ubuntu,  yours is probably fine,  but  it's  good practice to check it anyway.   Ok don't  worry  about that for now, it can be checked later  with Ubuntu or Windows.  and it probably doesn't need to be.
[02:20] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, it would take just as long to do it directly through unetbootin too if it was working. Do you have Skype?
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well your here again, so  let's help you get set up with a good Ubuntu set up I guess
[02:20] <scunizi> I can't seem to connect to my desktop in my lan with vinagre.. I've port scanned and 5900 is open.. I've removed the password requirement. It tries then immediately disconnects.. any ideas?
[02:20] <linuxguy2009> paragonc: Do what?
[02:20] <helpme> DisgustedAngel, nope
[02:20] <soul----> k ubuntu
[02:20] <paragonc> make sure my sources are updated
[02:20] <soul----> fix your website
[02:20] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, Gtalk?
[02:20] <soul----> don't say stuff thats not included in the repository's
[02:20] <edidie> Hi everyone. Can someone help me with my video card driver?
[02:21] <soul----> stop crapping up :(
[02:21] <Mandi> sebsebseb: unfortunately, i'll have to come back for that b/c i haven't removed the data from the desktop computer yet and i need to do that before i install the os; i was just testing today
[02:21] <soul----> it isn
[02:21] <edidie> I have an ATI Rage Mobility M3.
[02:21] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > Mandi
[02:21] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Got an external hard disk or something to put it on to?
[02:21] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, wait, i just remembered, i have a downloaded version of the netbook remix already downloaded from earlier
[02:21] <sebsebseb> Mandi: the data?
[02:21] <IdleOne> soul----: what stuff?
[02:22] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i was going to move the files through my wireless network to one of the laptops
[02:22] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, ah sounds good. Then use that one. The Netbook remix is nice, that's what I use on my Asus 900a
[02:22] <soul----> links for software
[02:22] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that would be slow
[02:22] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you could use samba instead
[02:22] <Mandi> sebsebseb: well, that's all i've got - or i wait for payday so i can buy more cds
[02:22] <Mandi> sebsebseb: what's samba?
[02:22] <sebsebseb> Mandi: and do it over the LAN (Local Area Network)  and using the Ubuntu Live CD
[02:22] <IdleOne> soul----: such as? can't help if your not more specific
[02:23] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, so i have it pulled up, what do i do next. (sorry for backtracking)
[02:23] <soul----> a vnc viewer
[02:23]  * paragonc starts downloading 9.10
[02:23] <paissad-hp> hi all
[02:23] <sebsebseb> !samba | Mandi
[02:23] <linuxguy2009> SAMBA is a way to share files and folders to windows, linux, and mac machines.
[02:23] <DisguisedAngel> edidie, you could try installing "Envy" from the repositories and using that to install the graphics driver for your card... Envy is really easy to use.
[02:23] <IdleOne> !vnc
[02:23] <dvokurka> hey, what do you guys think of ubuntu 9.10?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> dvokurka: ok, but not that good compared to previous versions
[02:23] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, you have unetbootin pulled up right?
[02:23] <dvokurka> yeah me too
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Samba is good
[02:24] <paissad-hp> i've created a swap file /swap, i have activated with swapon, but i would like to know if there's another idea better than adding the command swapon into /etc/rc.local in order that the swap activates after each boot !
[02:24] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it  lets you  move files to Windows
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Mandi: or  files from Windows to  your Linux distro
[02:24] <helpme> DisgustedAngel, yes its "wubi" correct?
[02:24] <ChogyDan> paissad-hp: you should be able to add it to your fstab
[02:24] <dvokurka> any advice on how to get dual monitors to work properly?
[02:25] <sebsebseb> Mandi: and it can even do Linux to Linux.   move/copy/paste  files  that's what Samaba will do
[02:25] <paissad-hp> ChogyDan, ok thanks
[02:25] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i don't have a LAN setup - just the one wired desktop, and 3 wireless laptops
[02:25] <DigitalKiwi> dvokurka: do you have nvidia card?
[02:25] <helpme> DisguisedAngel or is it the "usb-creator"?
[02:25] <sebsebseb> Mandi: sure, but you got a router right?
[02:25] <ChogyDan> !fstab > paissad-hp
[02:25] <dvokurka> yes
[02:25] <sebsebseb> Mandi: connecting them all together  or at least some how
[02:25] <DigitalKiwi> gksudo nvidia-settings
[02:26] <Mandi> sebsebseb: yes, that's how i was planning to move the files, but you said it would be too slow - i'm lost somehow...
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Mandi: oh right ok uhmm
[02:26] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, I don't know what you mean by wubi... in the program unetbootin select Diskimage, then press the button to the far right of that, it has this, "..." Find and select your netbook remix, then click OK
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you meant some Windows way I assume, what I am saying is you can do it using the  Ubuntu Live CD that your on now and Samaba
[02:26] <sebsebseb> !info smb-client
[02:26] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, you could try the usb-creator that comes with netbook remix, but my dumb ass never could get it to work.
[02:26] <Mandi> sebsebseb: oh! ok
[02:27] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i'm listening
[02:27] <dvokurka> DigitalKiwi: I tried but i'm finding problems with the visual effects...they freeze up on both desktops
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok I have only used it occasionaly  so just hold on a sec  so I can tell you what to install
[02:27] <soul----> nm
[02:27] <dvokurka> *both monitors
[02:27] <sebsebseb> a sec a min whatever
[02:27] <soul----> running from sd is crap anyhow
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Can you access the router configuration page?  Or do you know the internal ip address of the lap top you want to move the data to?
[02:28] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i'm confused - you want me to use samba on the desktop computer to move the files from the desktop computer to where? don't i have to have the files off the hard drive to preserve them before the install?
[02:29] <jzacsh> hello, could anyone point me to a tutorial on how to use CSV (I understand what it is*, so wikipedia and the like are getting nauseating), maybe a tutorial? maybe the man pages are good enough? (they don't cover anything about csv or control systems in my school)
[02:29] <linxeh> jzacsh: csv isnt a control system
[02:29] <Mandi> sebsebseb: yes, i can get that info - i think... it'll take a minute while i remember
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Mandi:  You can install Samba  to the LIve CD,   and then  do the shared folder in WIndows,  and access it using samba with the internal ip address of that computer
[02:29] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, its on my Usb, but it's only 147 kb, isnt that sorta small for an operating system?
[02:29] <jzacsh> oh haha, not comma separated values, i meant control version system
[02:29] <linxeh> jzacsh: f you mean CVS, you might find SubVersion (SVN) easier to get into
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Mandi: then you just  move/copy  the files to the shared folder on Windows
[02:30] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, lol ya, too small. Something went wrong. Did you use unetbootin program?
[02:30] <jzacsh> linxeh, I'm only looking to it because some projects i want code for use cvs (on sourceforge) - otherwise I'd use git, as it seems really easy to use
[02:30] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, check the properties on the netbook remix file and tell me how big that ISO that you downloaded is.
[02:31] <linxeh> jzacsh: sourceforge has a page for each project telling you how to check their code out of their repositories
[02:31] <calvin_FreeNode> hello. I have problem suspending 9.10, 9.04
[02:31] <dvokurka> calvin_FreeNode: use hibernate instead
[02:32] <dvokurka> calvin_FreeNode: I find it works better for me
[02:32] <chad> Does anyone know how to load a wifi profile into /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:32] <calvin_FreeNode> after I click suspend, the led light on my box is still on. but monitor turns off. I can hear the fan is still on. But I can not activated with keyboard or mouse
[02:32] <chad> I have a wifi card, ubuntu sees it using lspci.  I can connect to wifi using iwconfig - but I want to set it up so it automatically loads everytime I turn on the PC.
[02:33] <only2jean> I am feeling good how is everybody doing?
[02:33] <helpme> DisguisedAngel i found the Zipped file in another location it's 700,000 kbs  (not sure what that is in gigs or Mb's) but thats a lot bigger
[02:33] <linuxguy2009> calvin_FreeNode: Calvin thats normal. On suspend the power stays on.
[02:33] <mehedi> has there any offline english dictionary for ubuntu?
[02:33] <jzacsh> linxeh thanks
[02:33] <calvin_FreeNode> so is there a sleep mode like windows does?
[02:33] <ChogyDan> chad: you just need the format of the interfaces file.  Im sure you can find it online
[02:33] <mehedi>  has there any offline english dictionary for ubuntu?
[02:33] <linuxguy2009> calvin_FreeNode: To wake try the power button as well?
[02:33] <mehedi>  has there any offline english dictionary for ubuntu?
[02:33] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, ya that sounds about right. Make sure this is the ISO you are selecting in Unetbootin
[02:33] <calvin_FreeNode> I have. didn't work
[02:34] <andresmh> When I get  a new IM in Pidgin, it doesn't show the new notification popup. Instead it just blinks like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285483/tmp/screenshot93.png
[02:34] <dvokurka> calvin_FreeNode: hibernate saves u battery power too
[02:34] <mehedi>  has there any offline english dictionary for ubuntu?
[02:34] <linuxguy2009> calvin_FreeNode: Windows and Ubuntu both have suspend, hybernate features yes.
[02:34] <sanjid> I'm having trouble making a usb version of the unr boot iso
[02:34] <andresmh> any idea how I can make Pidgin report new messages with the new notification popups?
[02:34] <ravia> status
[02:34] <linuxguy2009> calvin_FreeNode: Hibernate saves all RAM to swapspace and loads it back up on reboot.
[02:34] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, are you using usb-creator?
[02:34] <chad> ChogyDan: been looking.  Not sure if thats what I actually need?   I want a setup where if I plug in an ethernet cable, it takes priority -- if ethernet gets unplugged it switches to WiFi and looks for available network.  If I can't have it "look" for a network I would like to specify 2 networks.
[02:34] <calvin_FreeNode> xp calls it suspend. vista and windows 7 call it sleep
[02:34] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: I was using dd, but I then tried USB creator
[02:35] <mehedi>  has there any offline english dictionary for ubuntu?
[02:35] <calvin_FreeNode> sleep is much faster than hibernate
[02:35] <ChogyDan> chad: what happens you set both of them up?
[02:35] <chad> ChogyDan: Im doing it all from command line because its a minimal install  and I am not a linux expert.
[02:35] <ravia> exit
[02:35] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, ok now it looks like its doing something
[02:35] <chad> ChogyDan:  not sure how to set it up.
[02:35] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, try unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:35] <sanjid> with usb creator, the "make startup disk" option is greyed out, even though everything looks normal
[02:35] <chad> ChogyDan:  I use iwconfig wlan0 essid mywifi
[02:35] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, great! Sounds like the first time it may have had the wrong file lol.
[02:36] <dvokurka> sanjid: u might need to format ur usb
[02:36] <chad> ChogyDan:  Then I have to type "iwconfig wlan0 up"
[02:36] <ChogyDan> chad: unfortunately, the best I could help you is find a web page with the syntax
[02:36] <chad> haha... alright I will keep searching :(
[02:36] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, and my usb is filling up, it has one of those storage display things on i
[02:36] <radams976> is there a way to get trillian astra to work with ubuntu with wine?
[02:36] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, lol nice. Haven't seen one of those before. Sounds nifty
[02:37] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, wait... is 700,000 kbs 7 gigs?
[02:37] <dvokurka> no 700Mb
[02:37] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, as dvokurka said, 700mb
[02:37] <sanjid> dvokurka: just formatted it, and it still won't work
[02:37] <helpme> dvokurka, ok, thanks
[02:37] <sumeetbali>  does anyone use twitter here?
[02:38] <radams976> is there a way to get trillian astra to work with ubuntu with wine?
[02:38] <helpme> DisguisedAngel i used to know those conversions... lol
[02:38] <calvin_FreeNode> linuxguy2009: do you know how to make ubuntu 'sleep'?
[02:38] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, try using unetbootin and selecting Diskimage and then giving it the unr iso.
[02:38] <dvokurka> sanjid: do u have a ubuntu iso on ur computer?
[02:38] <sumeetbali>  does anyone use twitter here?
[02:38] <sanjid> dvokurka: yes
[02:38] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: sure, I'll try that
[02:38] <sebsebseb> !ot |  sumeetbali
[02:38] <linuxguy2009> calvin_FreeNode: What do you mean by sleep? Power down and save all open apps or simply keep running in low power mode?
[02:38] <radams976> how are yall doing?
[02:38] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, ok now i need help with this whole "boot from usb thing" while its downloading
[02:39] <ChogyDan> chad: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
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[02:39] <sebsebseb> !bot |  sumeetbali
[02:39] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, what's confusing is the actual way they classify it and crap, like 1,000Kb doesn't actually REALLY equal a Mb... it's somethign like 1024Kb to 1Mb...dvokurka might know the exact numbers.
[02:39] <dvokurka> good luck all
[02:39] <hyperstream> when i'm on live cd how do i bring up the grub console? it says command not found!
[02:39] <dvokurka> exit
[02:39] <radams976> how are yall doing?
[02:39] <calvin_FreeNode> linuxguy2009: sleep means power down cpu but keep powering ram. in acpi this is S3 state.
[02:39] <radams976> is there a way to get trillian astra to work with ubuntu with wine?
[02:39] <radams976> help
[02:39] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, well the boot from usb isn't really all that hard. You know how to get into your bios right?
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[02:40] <sebsebseb> radams976: maybe/probably and #winehq is the place to ask
[02:40] <radams976> ok
[02:40] <radams976> thanxs
[02:40] <calvin_FreeNode> linuxguy2009: of course you could use S1 state which powers CPU as well
[02:40] <linuxguy2009> calvin_FreeNode: Yes that is called suspend in Windows and Ubuntu.
[02:40] <sebsebseb> radams976: np good luck
[02:40] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, ... Bios...? haha i thought i knew alot about computers, aparently not lol
[02:40] <radams976> thxns
[02:40] <hyperstream> when i'm on live cd how do i bring up the grub console? it says command not found!
[02:40] <calvin_FreeNode> linuxguy2009: anyway, doesn't work for me
[02:40] <andresmh> How do I get the new Ubuntu notifications in Pidgin (http://ubuntumanual.org/files/u1/ubuntu_notification.png). I have lib-notify plugin enabled for new messages, however, it only blinks when I get a new message: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285483/tmp/screenshot93.png
[02:41] <Flannel> radams976: pidgin might also be of interest to you
[02:41] <sebsebseb> radams976: or Empathy
[02:41] <linuxguy2009>  calvin_FreeNode: Why do you say it doesnt work? It wont wake up?
[02:42] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, lol. Well if you don't know stuff like bios, your computer experience may put a little bit of a learning curve on Linux, but don't worry... Linux has gotten a lot more user friendly than it used to be. You will do just fine. Now let me get to the bios information.
[02:42] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i finally got the ip address - sorry it took so long, just to make sure i understand what you're saying, i install the samba with the live CD running on the computer i'm moving the files from, right?
[02:42] <hyperstream> WHY is the ubuntu 9.10 install disk BROKEN, the grub loader doesnt work....  doesnt someone test this before releasing ?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Mandi: my install of 9.10 is  nearly clean, it seems I already got Samba stuff installed, so maybe you do as well on the Live CD
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well that's easy enough to find out if you do or don't, and easy to install if you don't
[02:43] <osubuck> hyperstream: it worked fine for me, maybe its just you
[02:43] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, during the VERY beginning of the of booting up your computer, when it probably gives you some simple colored DELL logo or something, down towards the bottom should be some instructions on how to get into your bios, like press Esc, delete, F1, F2 or something like that. Bios' are usually blue and white pages that allow you to change some things about your computer.
[02:43] <hyperstream> WHY is the ubuntu 9.10 install disk BROKEN, the grub loader doesnt work....  doesnt someone test this before releasing ? I get grub boot error,  no such file ......... ive installed it to the /boot parition /dev/sdd2 and the actual drive in over a number of formats --> /dev/sdd doesnt work either
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Mandi: system > administration > synaptic package manager   search for samba   and is any of that stuff green?   or you could just run an install command for one of the programs and it will say if it's installed or not   sudo apt-get install samba-common
[02:43] <hyperstream> osubuck its wierd
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Mandi: applications > assesssories > terminal for commands
[02:44] <helpme> DisguisedAngel oooh those things
[02:44] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: what is your drive setup?
[02:44] <Mandi> sebsebseb: checking - i'm on one of the laptops, and the desktop is next to me
[02:44] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: unetbootin seems to be working. I had it "burned" with dd before, but my netbook refused to boot from it
[02:44] <Mandi> sebsebseb: and very slow CD drive
[02:44] <helpme> DisguisedAngel so i should find some sort of "boot from usb drive" there?
[02:44] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, Don't mess with any of it but the part you need to. You need to find the "Boot Order" section, or one that you think might be hinting towards a boot order or boot priority or something. Then you need to make sure that the one that says something about USB, like USB storage or drive or something, is higher in the list of things you can boot from than your Hard Drive.
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Mandi: on the lap top in Windows you need to make a shared folder, where your going to move/copy in  the data
[02:45] <jzacsh> i want my cron to output
[02:45] <jzacsh> whoops, ignore that ^
[02:45] <Toto23> Hello
[02:45] <Toto23> I come from an other planet...
[02:45] <sebsebseb> !hi | Toto23
[02:45] <helpme> that means i have to shut down :| ok, any words of advice b4 i leave? ill be on once i get things up and running
[02:45] <SingAlong_> Toto23: find your spaceship and go back :)
[02:45] <Toto23> Probably situated between the uranus system and the constellation of Mesbolpol.
[02:46] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Toto23
[02:46] <Toto23> Arrived here in laser reuction blast in the year 381.
[02:47] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, don't panic, your not installing right away, just testing it out. And install XChat from System > Administration > Synaptic Package manager, so you can chat with the guys in here for help.
[02:47] <Mandi> sebsebseb: shared folder done, still looking for samba on deskto
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Mandi: sudo apt-get install samba-common
[02:47] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: and I'm seeing the install screen, thank you very much
[02:48] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, np :) Good luck
[02:48] <sanjid> thanks :-)
[02:48] <Toto23> Formed in the council, KIng Richard reserve to him thssh: connect to host planetXtc34w.Sidious.GalaxyErtzo.Hmbc port 22: Connecting on timed out
[02:48] <sebsebseb> sanjid: I suggest setting up a seperate home on a new Ubuntu install
[02:48] <andresmh> How do I enable the new Ubuntu notifications in Pidgin (like these http://ubuntumanual.org/files/u1/ubuntu_notification.png).
[02:48] <helpme> DisguisedAngle, ok, well here i go
[02:48] <sanjid> I had it going on my old netbook, but the hdd died and they just gave me a fresh one
[02:48] <panfist> why does it take such a long time to move something to the trash? what's going on in the background when files are deleted through gnome?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> !ops |  Toto23
[02:48] <Toto23> You are the first human I see since few years
[02:49] <hyperstream> ChogyDan: i have 2 IDE's and 2 Sata and one USB External Hard Drive(1TB) , when i go through the install process i click advanced and tell it to install the boot loader onto the 1TB drive, ive also one time made a /boot partition, and tried to install grub onto that with the advanced menu just before it copy's the files and installs the OS
[02:49] <Toto23> Do you have Bombing Blast ?
[02:50] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: you need to install grub to the drive that the bios will boot
[02:50] <nabcore> Hi, using Ubuntu 9.10 on a Thinkpad T61 with ath5k. When connected to a AP and pinging it every second; I noticed that *every* 120, the ping time jumps to ~8 sec and takes around 5 seconds to recover. Is this a known issue?
[02:50] <hyperstream> yes i tell me bios to boot my 1TB drive
[02:50] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, ah... my external died... hate it when HDD's die.
[02:50] <hyperstream> and i get that error, grub erro boot somethign.. unable to find file ...
[02:50] <sanjid> yeah, I had three hdd's die in the last three days
[02:51] <sanjid> so something is up
[02:51] <hyperstream> ChogyDan then just sits at grub rescue>
[02:51] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: hmm, so you install grub on the external drive?  and then have the /boot partition on another drive?
[02:51] <hyperstream> no the /boot partition in on the External Drive as well
[02:52] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid... well in all honesty, it didn't die on me. It got killed by my wife, the master of "Trip over the cord and kill your HDD"
[02:52] <hyperstream> i have like this: 10gig /boot (ext4) | 100gig / (ext4) | 4gig swaparea
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Ok what you doing now?
[02:52] <sanjid> ouch, that sucks
[02:52] <Mandi> sebsebseb: still trying to get samba on the desktop computer - having issues with slow CD drive
[02:52] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, I don't get any harddrive's but Seagate now... I had a WD crap out on me and I only use what I beleive to be the best now.
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Mandi: oh
[02:53] <hyperstream> ChogyDan, i have tried installing to 10gig /boot and with out even having a /boot (just 100gig /root) and install to / partition.
[02:53] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well in that case
[02:53] <sanjid> I think that there's some electromagnetic disturbance near my house, why else would there be three unrelated hdd's, both internal and external, across different systems and different roms, fail within a couple days of each other
[02:53] <hyperstream> ChogyDan, also it is the first partition(s) on the drive.
[02:53] <sebsebseb> Mandi: feel free to do it the way you were going to before
[02:53] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: and you get the same error?
[02:53] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, I don't know, that is weird. Are they all the same brand or different?
[02:54] <Mandi> is there a way to reboot from the keyboard in ubuntu live CD?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Mandi: try reboot in the terminal
[02:54] <DisguisedAngel> Mandi "Ctrl-Alt-Del"
[02:54] <Mandi> can't get a terminal
[02:54] <Mandi> tried
[02:54] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: one was the internal hdd on an iMac, one was the internal on an eeepc, and one was a WD external
[02:54] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: no that won't work
[02:54] <zcat[1]> ctrl-alt-F1 then atrl-alt-del
[02:54] <hyperstream> actually no,  without the /boot partition, i was installing the bootloader to the Ext Hard Drive /dev/sdd , and i was getting unknown file system, but with the /boot partition and installing the boot loader to that i get cant find file
[02:54] <DisguisedAngel> sebsebseb, doesn't work in live?
[02:55] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, wow that is weird.
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: or maybe it works uh.  I am thinking Windows Ctrl Alt Delete
[02:55] <Mandi> sebsebseb: thank you for trying to hold my hand - i really appreciate it, i'll be back if i have anymore questions, right now it's a matter of hardware issues
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: also well this
[02:55] <hyperstream> ChogyDan, ive even booted into live cd, and had a look at the 10gig boot partition, it has a grub directory, but no menu.lst or anything like that
[02:55] <zcat[1]> alt-F2 'gksu reboot'
[02:55] <SingAlong_> i just installed 9.10 netbook remix on my Aspire One D150 and the wireless doesnt work.
[02:55] <sebsebseb> !dontzap |   DisguisedAngel
[02:55] <sanjid> yeah, exactly. It also killed the power strip connected to my router
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: there used to be an easy way to log out, but not anymore
[02:55] <ChogyDan> !grub2 > hyperstream
[02:55] <DisguisedAngel> sebsebseb, you don't need dontzap now
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: oh?
[02:55] <SingAlong_> i just installed 9.10 netbook remix on my Aspire One D150 and the wireless doesnt work. It used to work in 9.04 though.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> SingAlong_: clean install or upgrade?
[02:56] <SingAlong_> sebsebseb: clean install
[02:56] <DisguisedAngel> sebsebseb, you can go to keyboard, then Layouts, Layout Options, and turn that feature back on.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> SingAlong_: ok uhmm sometimes things that worked in a previous release, don't in a later one
[02:56] <the_beav> why does my wireless signal seem to go up and down so much..i have to boot into XP to watch decent streams..anything i can do?
[02:56] <ChogyDan> sebsebseb: DisguisedAngel: alt+sysrq+k also works
[02:56] <snuffy47> having problems testing an install of deluge on a headless ubuntu server.  the torrents seem to keep going to permision denied
[02:56] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: System Admin hardware drivers. Any drivers listed there for your wifi adapter?
[02:56] <SingAlong_> sebsebseb: it worked on the upgrade though. but i had a messed up gnome install so i did a clean install again
[02:57] <DisguisedAngel> ChogyDan, what is sysrq?
[02:57] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: one sec
[02:57] <fcuk112> snuffy47: are you using open or private trackers?
[02:57] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: ChogyDan   ok  thanks I guess
[02:57] <zcat[1]> It's true you don't need nozap now
[02:57] <zcat[1]> lol
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Do it in Windows
[02:57] <snuffy47> fcuk112, current 1 private and 1 public
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Mandi: oh yeah you were going to re boot
[02:57] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: no propreitory drivers on this system. thats what it says
[02:57] <fcuk112> snuffy47: both permission denied?
[02:57] <Mandi> sebsebseb: it came alive suddenly - trying the command line you gave me to get samba
[02:58] <ChogyDan> DisguisedAngel: its a magic key I suppose.  on my keyboard, it is the same as printscreen
[02:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: sudo lshw -c lan
[02:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: pastebin
[02:58] <DisguisedAngel> ChogyDan, hmmm weird
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok
[02:58] <snuffy47> fcuk112, my private says status OK but no activity and the publics go permissions denied
[02:58] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: k
[02:58] <DisguisedAngel> alright, I'm out. Catch you guys later.
[02:59] <snuffy47> fcuk112, the private is stuck on checking
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !lol > zcat[1]
[02:59] <Nautilus> whats a good way to setup multiple simultaneous web (MySQL based) sites on a dev box? My old install just had one public_html folder and one DB.
[03:00] <fcuk112> snuffy47: strange. which folder are you writing the data to?
[03:00] <the_beav> seriously, it goes from 100% 56% lol i can't be the only person with this prblem
[03:00] <snuffy47> fcuk112, it is a samba share on the server. //media/movies1/Torrents
[03:00] <sebsebseb> Mandi: how's it going?
[03:01] <ChogyDan> Nautilus: I thought you could do that by configuring apache to use different folders, and the websites to use different tables
[03:01] <snuffy47> fcuk112, I was wondering if it was a write problem
[03:01] <sebsebseb> snuffy47: you done Samba in 9.10?
[03:01] <Nautilus> dont want different tables
[03:01] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i just got a message that the software manager thingy stopped working and closed unexpectedly - i'm going to do the whole mess in windows
[03:01] <snuffy47> fcuk112, I was wondering if it was a write problem
[03:01] <ChogyDan> Nautilus: why not?
[03:01] <Nautilus> why?
[03:01] <fcuk112> snuffy47: yea, maybe try to write to a local folder first.
[03:01] <Nautilus> ;)
[03:01] <snuffy47> sebsebseb, no it is on jaunty
[03:01] <DisguisedAngel> what is the command to open file roller from terminal? I forgot what someone told me.
[03:01] <sebsebseb> snuffy47: nevermind I guess,  I  was trying to help Mandi get set up with Samba, but she/he was getting  issues with Live CD
[03:01] <stooball> Hi all
[03:01] <snuffy47> fcuk112, It is a local folder on server where deluge is
[03:01] <Nautilus> ChogyDan: mostly because when the sites are uploaded thay each get their own DB
[03:01] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: file-roller
[03:01] <DisguisedAngel> linuxguy2009 thanks
[03:02] <linuxguy2009> welcome
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it might already be installed
[03:02] <fcuk112> snuffy47: try a folder under your home/username/ folder
[03:02] <ChogyDan> Nautilus: same tables == same data == same website.  If you are using different websites, then will use different tables anyway probably
[03:02] <snuffy47> okay
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Mandi: I just wanted to test that
[03:02] <Nautilus> ChogyDan: the tables are the same for each
[03:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: You got some output for me?
[03:02] <snuffy47> sebsebseb, what is the problem I am a noob but will help if can
[03:02] <stooball> I have an HP pavilion zx5180us and have spent the lat 2 days trying to get the wireless to work again
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Mandi: since I seem to have  Samaba installed and this is  nearly a clean installl of 9.10
[03:03] <stooball> Can anyone helpme?
[03:03] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i was trying to find it in the software manager, but i guess i was moving too fast for the CD drive or something and we're getting all kinds of error messages
[03:03] <cdw32> hello all. would anyone be able to assist me in installing Adobe Flash 10 on my mini 12?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> Mandi: error messages such as?
[03:03] <linuxguy2009> stooball: We dont know yet. Whats your question?
[03:03] <DisguisedAngel> linuxguy2009, gksudo fileroller did not open the fileroller :( What am I doing wrong?
[03:03] <stooball> I have an HP pavilion zx5180us and have spent the lat 2 days trying to get the wireless to work again
[03:03] <sebsebseb> snuffy47: oh I was just wondering if Samba gets installed by default with 9.10
[03:03] <jzacsh> cdw32, I believe you should be fine just downloading the ".deb" file from http://get.adobe.com/flash/
[03:03] <paragonc> ok - so i dropped in the 9.04 cd - and clicked install - but now its just sitting at command prompt
[03:03] <stooball> last that is
[03:03] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: you forgot the "-"
[03:03] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: i found something in the docs
[03:03] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: gksudo file-roller
[03:04] <paragonc> i also cant ssh into the installer
[03:04] <DisguisedAngel> linuxguy2009... god I am an idiot, thanks
[03:04] <scunizi> Is there a gui front end for dcraw.. ??
[03:04] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: yep
[03:04] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: in this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne it says "I have a AOA 150 and had to add blacklist acer_wmi to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist for my wifi to work "
[03:04] <cdw32> jzacsh: thank you
[03:04] <Mandi> sebsebseb: sebsebseb: not sure, dh is clicking on the desktop computer - he reads them off, then clicks them away - it seems to be running fine again; apparently if we leave the machine idle for too long, the CD forgets that it's reading something???
[03:04] <sebsebseb> Mandi: dh???
[03:04] <sanjid> so, what's a good size for my swap partition?
[03:04] <Mandi> sebsebseb: checking the software center now for samba to see if it's installed
[03:04] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: how do i add it to the black list? the blacklist file doesnt exist
[03:04] <Mandi> sebsebseb: dear husband...
[03:04] <Grasber> hi
[03:04] <paragonc> is there a command i can give it to start the installer?
[03:05] <Grasber> how can i get personal assistance from someone?, it's important :(
[03:05] <jzacsh> Grasber, what's the issue?
[03:06] <Bam_Bam> Grasber, usually you can just ask someone here.
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok that's what I thought for  quite a while now or from the begining, a woman, but sometimes guys use female names in here or so it seems.    Live CD's yeah can be slow it has to put everything into RAM, and also if the CD drive is slow hmm.
[03:06] <Grasber> look, i installed ubuntu on my dad's laptop, and now his win xp intallaton won't start
[03:06] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: My guess is that you need to do a ALT+F2 and run "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" and add it in there.
[03:06] <uccadmin> Does anyone know why in the new GDM (Karmic) some of my users are displayed with their username in parenthesis after their "Real Name"? Was there a change made to the way that users are displayed?
[03:06] <cdw32> jzacsh: it fail to install. it had me run a code in lterminal
[03:06] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: ya added it :)
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Grasber: Is there an option for it on the boot loader?
[03:07] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: do i have to do anything else next?
[03:07] <Grasber> it says it's a 31 error from grub
[03:07] <Grasber> i mean: 21 error
[03:07] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: No clue. Maybe logout and back in or reboot no idea.
[03:07] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i'm going to shut down the live CD and copy the data through windows - i'll be back when it's done
[03:07] <sebsebseb> uccadmin: not sure, but  that GDM sucks, it can't even be themed like the old one, since  they didn't code that in to the re write of GDM
[03:07] <jzacsh> cdw32, what's the name of the debian package you downloaded?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Mandi: I might not be here
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it's a bit late here really
[03:08] <cdw32> jzacsh:  intsall_flash_player_10_linus.deb
[03:08] <uccadmin> sebsebseb: I'm okay with it so far, although it is limited. It just baffles me that there are a few users displayed as "This is my real name (username)" while others are "This is my real name"
[03:08] <Mandi> sebsebseb: that's fine - you started the ball rolling - i think i've got it from here; will there be someone else on if i run into trouble?
[03:08] <ve0> is anybody here?
[03:08] <stooball> anyone else having wireless probs since upgrading Ubuntu 9.1?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Mandi: when you partition later  if you do manual install...
[03:08] <linuxguy2009> uccadmin: What are the user names and what do they look like exactly?
[03:08] <jzacsh> cdw32, currently this is the location of the debian installer http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Linux_(.deb)
[03:08] <ve0> ow! )
[03:08] <jzacsh> cdw32, download that ^ and let me know if its the same name
[03:08] <sanjid> what's a good size for a swap size partition?
[03:09] <paragonc> why doesnt the graphical installer come up? grrrr
[03:09] <ve0> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j fail2ban-sasl returned 400
[03:09] <ve0> Bad argument `returned'
[03:09] <ve0> heeelp!!!
[03:09]  * paragonc is super frustrated tonight
[03:09] <linuxguy2009> cdw32: Doesnt work quite right in 9.10 BTW.
[03:09] <jzacsh> ve0, you have to say something specific, what's wrong?
[03:09] <stooball> anyone else having wireless probs since upgrading Ubuntu 9.1?
[03:10] <Nautilus> sanjid: I think 2x RAM
[03:10] <sebsebseb> Mandi: sure loads of people are in here.   I am quite active in here at the moment, but  I don't want to be that active at night in here anymore,  and yes it's night here.
[03:10] <uccadmin> linuxguy2009: I have three that are doing this and one two that are normal. The accounts "uccadmin" and "ucc-win7" display only the "real name" on the GDM login. My other accounts (ucc-mac, ucc-win, ucc-ubu) all show the "real name" followed by the username in parenthesis
[03:10] <cdw32> linuxguy2009: i am currently running 8.04 LTS
[03:10] <ve0> jzacsh iptabel rule do not ad and i have thise error...
[03:10] <sanjid> Nautilus: thanks
[03:10] <cdw32> linuxguy2009: i believe
[03:10] <debio264> I just installed Ubuntu (Karmic) on a desktop that's been running a different distribution of linux for quite some time, and now it's booting, running through BIOS, printing GRUB, and hanging
[03:10] <linuxguy2009> cdw32: Oh ok itll work perfect for you then. :)
[03:10] <derp> Hi!  I'd like to set up the folders in my home folder (Documents, Pictures, etc...) to point to folders inside of my Ubuntu One folder.  Can this be achieved?  Would symlinking work?
[03:10] <paragonc> insnt the installer suppoed to do stuff and not drop me into a command line?
[03:10] <cdw32> linuxguy2009: thanks
[03:10] <sebsebseb> !ubuntuone |  derp
[03:10] <ve0> jzacsh what wrong in this rule?
[03:10] <paragonc> its acting like it launched the live cd to command line
[03:11] <sebsebseb> derp: still no factoid
[03:11] <cdw32> jzacsh: same name
[03:11] <linuxguy2009> derp: I think ubuntu-tweak can do this very easily if you want a GUI to help.
[03:11] <sebsebseb> derp: #ubuntuone  is a channel
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Mandi: when you install
[03:11] <derp> sebsebseb:  thanks, iĺl look at that
[03:11] <jzacsh> ve0, I don't understand. you're having trouble with an iptable? what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:11] <derp> linuxguy2009:  I saw that but it
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Mandi: there's an option that will  put it on the whole of your hard disk and that's a default set up
[03:11] <derp> it´s not quite what i wanted
[03:11] <snuffy47> fcuk112, Well that seemed to fix it.  Neeod to find and active private tracker now.  Why is this s
[03:11] <paragonc> it just shows ubuntu@ubuntu
[03:11] <cdw32> jzacsh: it is giving me the same error message that the dependencies failed it install
[03:11] <debio264> I just installed Ubuntu (Karmic) on a desktop that's been running a different distribution of linux for quite some time, and now it's booting, running through BIOS, printing GRUB, and hanging. Is this a known bug and/or is there a way I can just reinstall GRUB?
[03:11] <linuxguy2009> derp: but it what?
[03:12] <jzacsh> cdw32 you've opened with the "package installer"? and clicked "install package" button? (with a green checkmark)
[03:12] <linuxguy2009> Oh
[03:12] <sebsebseb> Mandi: however it won't set up a seperate /home  which in the long run could be rather useful, if you have a reason to re install Ubuntu, or you want to put some other distro on
[03:12] <linuxguy2009> derp: What didnt float your boat about that?
[03:12] <cdw32> jzacsh: yes
[03:12] <sanjid> so, just windows, /, and swap?
[03:12] <ve0> jzacsh I was instaled fail2ban... and fail2ban do not banned the brut to ssh, and paste error in log...
[03:12] <sanjid> or are there more partitions that would be good ideals?
[03:12] <Mandi> sebsebseb: k... how do i make it do that then
[03:12] <sanjid> *ideas
[03:12] <jzacsh> cdw32, can you paste the error here (or in a pastebin if its big)
[03:12] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i was hoping to keep my directory structure as it is, except that when I drop something into, say, /home/user/Documents, it actually dropps it off in /home/user/ubuntuone/documents
[03:12] <derp> if that makes sense
[03:12] <ve0> 2009-11-16 05:59:11,569 fail2ban.actions.action: ERROR  iptables -N fail2ban-sasl
[03:12] <ve0> iptables -A fail2ban-sasl -j RETURN
[03:13] <ve0> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j fail2ban-sasl returned 400
[03:13] <cdw32> jzacsh: yes one moment
[03:13] <stooball> debio264 - I think you can do a grub update somehow
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Mandi: they can be set up after woulds, but  I have never done that, and it's probably much easier to set up on a clean install.   plus  you  want some swap space double your RAM really.
[03:13] <ve0> jzacsh like thise
[03:13] <sebsebseb> !home |  Mandi
[03:13] <sebsebseb> !swap |  Mandi
[03:13] <derp> in other words, i'd like the directory structure to remain intact.  this is becasue I'm using UNR and the shortcuts point very specifically to the folders in /home/user
[03:13] <linuxguy2009> derp: In a nautilus window in the sidepane you can add ubuntu one folders I would imagine to simplify.
[03:13] <jzacsh> ve0, I honestly have no experience with what you're doing. maybe someone else could help you. I'd suggest googling that error. although, probably just reading more in the man page for that app will help you
[03:14] <paragonc> Trying to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04. I dropped the cd in - select english - select install. It loads some info, and then drops me into a command line saying: ubuntu@ubuntu - what now?
[03:14] <Roasted> in ubuntu, how can I adjust frostwire so it has a taskbar icon in the upper right by the clock./
[03:14] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i'm not talking about the sidepane though.  I mean the UNR shortcuts in their main menu GUI
[03:14] <chd> I get an "unable to open /dev/sdb" error when I run sudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdb wtfsup?
[03:14] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Home is also where hidden .folders go  for programs with the program user data, for example .mozilla is the Firefox profile and it's settings bookmarks etc
[03:14] <ve0> jzacsh thx fo help)
[03:14] <derp> linuxguy2009:  those apparently can't be changed, so i'm wondering if symlinking would work
[03:14] <linuxguy2009> derp: No way of copying one file to 2 locations at once.
[03:15] <Mandi> sebsebseb: k, like the users directory in windows...?
[03:15] <sebsebseb> Mandi: if you remove/move  a  dot folder for a program and then re open that program,  it's like you have just installed it for the first time
[03:15] <derp> linuxguy2009:  well i'm not trying to copy to 2 locations at once.  I'd like for one location to actually point to another.  so if you drop something in folder A, it actually ends up in folder B...
[03:15] <jzacsh> cdw32, have you posted yet?
[03:15] <root> server irc.freenode.net
[03:15] <derp> and i believe symlinking enables one to do that, but i'm not entirely sure
[03:15] <Toto23> THE LIBERTY... YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IS IT ... OPEN SOURCE IS NOT REPRESENTED BY THE MANDRIVA COMMUNITY :( THIS IS VERY SAD
[03:15] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am trying to get to the error message again
[03:15] <sebsebseb> Mandi: home is like my documents in  Windows, but  also  program user data
[03:16] <Toto23> is the ubuntu community better ?
[03:16] <derp> Toto23:  HOW'S CRUISE CONTROL WORKING FOR YOU?
[03:16] <linuxguy2009> derp: Your looking at it backwards I think. Ubuntu One is meant to be saved to in order to share those files on multiple machines.
[03:16] <snuffy47> fcuk112, Do you know way the directory made the difference?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> !troll |  Toto23
[03:16] <NightHawk877> The volume buttons won't work in Kubuntu karmic on my laptop
[03:16] <parker-fcnyu> hi! can anybody help me? i'm trying to get my left super and alt keys to swap, and using the preference in the keyboard layout options isn't doing the expected behavior
[03:16] <dAlfa89_> derp, i lol'd
[03:16] <linuxguy2009> derp: No idea whats confusing you.
[03:16] <Mandi> sebsebseb: right - in vista, that stuff is visible - a lot more so than in XP; i've seen it floating around; so do the install, then add the /home partition?
[03:16] <Nautilus> Can anyone help me remember what I used to install (L)AMP?  It was a command something like: "pkg-list install lamp-server"
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ideally yes you want to set up a seperate /home on install
[03:16] <Nautilus> but i dont think it was pkg-list
[03:17] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i realize that.  I'm trying to sync my netbook to my desktop.  I'd like it to work in such a way that anything i drop into /home/user/documents ends up in /home/user/ubuntuone/documents so that it is automatically shared
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that should be most of your hard disk space
[03:17] <Mandi> sebsebseb, k
[03:17] <NightHawk877> can someone please help me with my volume problem
[03:17] <linuxguy2009> Nautilus: apt-get install possibly?
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you need a / as well that's a must have
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that's Ubuntu itself
[03:17] <cdw32> jzacsh: the comp said that there was a broken package (adobe flash) that needed to be fixed before i could install again
[03:17] <Nautilus> linuxguy2009: no, i dont think so, it wass a pkg list thing
[03:17] <Mandi> sebsebseb, right
[03:17] <jzacsh> parker-fcnyu: can you let me know how you got to that preference pane?
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: or whatever distro your doing if it wasn't Ubuntu
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that should be about 10GB
[03:17] <paragonc> ok - so all the guides i read say this is a GUI installer - why is it dropping me @ command line?
[03:17] <parker-fcnyu> Nautilus, was it tasksel?
[03:17] <stooball> Good luck with that NightHawk877, no one seens to notice me
[03:17] <Nautilus> ohh maybe
[03:17] <derp> linuxguy2009:  the reason I can't just change the location of /home/user/documents is because that will break the shortcut on the UNR interface that cannot be modified (as far as I can tell)
[03:18] <linuxguy2009> derp: You dont need to save it to your PC documents folder at all. Just copy it to the cloud and it will sync to your machine.
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Mandi: a bit of swap  double the size of your RAM  that should do it.   and yep good set up
[03:18] <uccadmin> Reposting: Does anyone know why in the new GDM (Karmic) some of my users are displayed with their username in parenthesis after their "Real Name"? Was there a change made to the way that users are displayed?
[03:18] <ve0> anybody, who use fail2ban?
[03:18] <jzacsh> cdw32: you could try opening synatpic package manager. searching "adobe" and uninstalling the adobe flash packages you may have (be careful uninstalling things in this application)
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Mandi: this is partitioning
[03:18] <bepe> hi :D
[03:18] <od3n> anyone know the easiest way to add the trash to the desktop
[03:18] <jzacsh> ve0, also you could try seeing if they have there own cannel
[03:18] <parker-fcnyu> jzacsh, Preferences>Keyboard>Layouts>Layout Options>Alt/Win Key Behavior
[03:19] <ve0> jzacsh they havent(
[03:19] <linuxguy2009> derp: You might wanna go on youtube and look for a catagory5 eppisode on ubuntu one it explains a bit to help you understand the usage.
[03:19] <Nautilus> parker-fcnyu: that was it, tasksel ... what I need now is a site that helps me finish the config (primarily MySQL I think)
[03:19] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok
[03:19] <derp> linuxguy:  I know that.  again, the problem is that i want to use the shortcut on the UNR interface to access my documents... that shortcut points to /home/user/documents, but I want my documents to be automatically shared with ubuntuone, so they'd have to find their way into /home/user/ubuntuone/documents in order to do that
[03:19] <Mandi> sebsebseb, k - i get it now - i guess i just never realized that it was a manual thing; always used windows, so i always took the automatic part for granted
[03:19] <demonspork> nighty night everyone.  My expected signon time for tomorrow is 4:00PM Central time [amsg]
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you can set stuff up straight away in manual install on the installer. or   make in  gparted first a nice graphical  partition editor, and then finnish off in manual install, where you tell it  what to use a partition for.  you need to tell  it to use  one as / and the other /home  and  choose a file system  Ext4 is default for 9.10, but if you do manual install you have to select one yourself
[03:19] <parker-fcnyu> Nautilus, good luck! i don't have any real tips for that
[03:19] <Nautilus> k, tx
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you can do an automatic default install
[03:19] <Mandi> sebsebseb, thx for all your help tonight - i was a little hesitant b/c it seems like such a big task, but i'm sure once i get through this first one, the others will be a breeze
[03:20] <Nautilus> anyone know of a #lamp IRC chan?
[03:20] <stooball> right click on a panel, choose add to panel - choose go to trash
[03:20] <linuxguy2009> derp: Wont happen cause your trying to use ubuntu one in  a backwards fashion. Its made to sync from the cloud to the machine and not the other way around.
[03:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: guided install that will  go over your Windows install and use the whole hard disk if you tell it to use that
[03:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ,but  for the long run the manual install  set up I was suggesting would be better
[03:20] <jzacsh> nautilus, i have to make you type over again, but could you sum up whats wrong (I might be able to help)?
[03:20] <parker-fcnyu> jzacsh, When a select "Left Alt is swapped with Left Win" it seems like Alt_L corresponds to both Alt_L and Super_L
[03:20] <ve0> jzacsh i dont understand what the argument "returnet" and where it locate? fail2ban havent man... (((
[03:20] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i'm not following you at all.  If i put something in my ubuntuone folder, it will get uploaded to the cloud, correct?
[03:20] <Mandi> sebsebseb: ok, i will read the documentation on that and do it that way
[03:20] <cdw32> jzacsh: should i remove adobe reader also or just flash?
[03:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ,but since your new and all that,   you should probably really just go with guided install for  your first install
[03:20] <dani> hi
[03:21] <ve0> hi
[03:21] <linuxguy2009> derp: Look at ubuntu one simply as a free 2GB hard drive.
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Mandi: unless you want to  experiment  or  read up a bit about it
[03:21] <jzacsh> cdw32 no, not reader (not for this purpose at least).
[03:21] <linuxguy2009> derp: simple as that
[03:21] <derp> linuxguy2009:  right. it's like dropbox
[03:21] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i'll have to see where my week takes me LOL
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it's pretty straight forward really,  and  it's not like your going to mess something up if you try and do what I suggested
[03:21] <Nautilus> jzacsh: Just trying to setup a LAMP server, used "tasksel install lamp-server" iirc. Now I want to complete the config (like MySQL password, do I have to do anything to apache, get phpmyadmin setup, etc).
[03:21] <Guest14292> I can't use all video functions correctly on youtube anymore since i upgraded to 9.10. like i can't use the track position very good. how do i fix this issue??????
[03:21] <derp> linuxguy2009:  so anything I put in my ubuntuone folder will end up on the ubuntuone sever
[03:21] <od3n> that jsut adds it to the panel
[03:21] <linuxguy2009> derp: So basically your asking me if I drop a file on drive A can i get it to magically go into drive B. No.
[03:22] <cdw32> jzach: i found flash ten in the filter, and it is the version i just dl. should i still remove it
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Mandi: since you will have the data on the other computer anyway before doing that, and Windows will be ready to get off there
[03:22] <jzacsh> haha, anyone know how to scroll up? i'm losing some of this stuff
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !install |  Mandi
[03:22] <linuxguy2009> derp: Yeah if you have a launchpad account you can access those files on any machine. Its no different than using a hard drive or flash drive.
[03:22] <parker-fcnyu> Nautilus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:22] <cyb3rick> od3n: go to terminal, type in gconf-editor, go to /apps/nautilus/desktop/ and check the box of trash_icon
[03:22] <derp> linuxguy2009:  no.  I'm asking this:  can i set up a symlink in such a way that if i drop a file in folder a, it will end up in folder b, folder b being my ubuntuone folder
[03:23] <od3n> ok thanks
[03:23] <Nautilus> parker-fcnyu: ok, reading that, tx
[03:23] <linuxguy2009> derp: Call it what you want folder a drive a ftpserver a. No.
[03:23] <cryptide> anyone else annoyed with the giant ethernet jack: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/31053/screenshot_111_aM2JC4.png
[03:23] <kitty_> what is the build-essentials package?
[03:23] <parker-fcnyu> hey, no problem Nautilus ! i've done this before, and always just googled my way through it
[03:23] <derp> linuxguy2009:  ah then i'm confused.  what does a symlink actually do?
[03:23] <Toto23> good porn picture in GNU license ?
[03:23] <derp> Toto23, where?
[03:23] <jzacsh> nautilus you can search "phpmyadmin" "apache2" "mysql-server" in synaptic (install mysql-server before trying to install phpmyadmin)
[03:24] <sebsebseb> !ops |  Toto23 trolling again
[03:24] <linuxguy2009> derp: In computing, a symbolic link (also symlink or soft link) is a special type of file that contains a reference to another file or directory in the
[03:24] <derp> lol wikipedia
[03:24] <derp> =)
[03:25] <fcuk112> snuffy47: it's system design, you only have write access to your home folder unless you use sudo.
[03:25] <sebsebseb> Mandi: good luck with your install
[03:25] <Nautilus> jzacsh: the lamp modules are installed, just not configured yet. parker- had a page that looks like it will help
[03:25] <Mandi> sebsebseb: thank you thank you thank you
[03:25] <flan_suse> I mean this seriously: What benefits have DeviceKit brought to the desktop user? Ever since DeviceKit replace HAL in Ubuntu and openSUSE, it's been a nightmare for me to use removable media, especially CDs. Where do I "configure" how removable media is managed by DeviceKit?
[03:25] <sebsebseb> Mandi: loads of people can help you with that as well, even though it is pretty straight forward
[03:25] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i suppose I could sync both of the folders somehow, but that would be a waste of space
[03:25] <ClayG> anyone here use LMMS?
[03:25] <Blue1> derp: rsync
[03:26] <cdw32> jzacsh: i also found the old version and removed it
[03:26] <derp> Blue1:  yeah, that immediately comes to mind =)
[03:26] <ve0> who can help me???
[03:26] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well yeah pretty straight forward, so many people can help you with it
[03:26] <cjs> Where's a good place to ask questions about md devices and a RAID0 setup. Specifically, the autoconfig finding only one half of the mirror, and giving "md: could not bd_claim sdb1." for the other disk?
[03:26] <derp> !ask|ve0
[03:26] <Blue1> ve0: sorry my crystal ball is broke
[03:26] <ve0> Blue bad)
[03:27] <jzacsh> cdw32, i forgot about you. okay so I'd suggest logging out and logging in (might be totally un necessary). and then try to install the flash package you downloaded
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> derp: I really dont understand why your making it this difficult to use ubuntu one. Its just like a hard drive.
[03:27] <phrix> hi all... I wanna buzz in empathy using YM protocol... any clue...??
[03:27] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: still not working. i'm now connected with a wired connection.
[03:27] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: you asked for some output. what commands output is that?
[03:27] <ve0> Blue1 but I was ask my question...
[03:27] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok ill be back in a minute
[03:27] <stooball> I'll try once more
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: sudo lshw -c lan
[03:27] <derp> linuxguy2009:  Right, but i can't exactly run syncing software directly to the ubuntuone server can I?
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: pastebin.com
[03:27] <derp> it has to go through their client
[03:27] <stooball> anyone else having wireless probs since upgrading Ubuntu 9.1?
[03:28] <derp> or so I thought...
[03:28] <linuxguy2009>  derp: So you basically answered your own question.
[03:28] <ve0> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j fail2ban-sasl returned 400 - what the parametr "returned" means& Help please!!!
[03:29] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: v
[03:29] <derp> linuxguy2009:  you're telling me you can use ordinary sync software other than the ubuntuone client to sync folders?
[03:29] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: http://pastie.org/700521
[03:29] <usser> derp, yep
[03:29] <derp> well that changes everything...
[03:29] <linuxguy2009>  derp: Use it like it was meant to. Save the file to the cloud(ubunt one service) and then instead of opeing it in your documents folder you just open the ubuntu one folder.
[03:29] <usser> !info rsync
[03:29] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: anything wrong with my network cards?
[03:29] <ve0> and why the iptables swear on it?
[03:29] <jzacsh> ve0, i've never used this program, but "returned.XXX" usually means how the program reacted to an action you took. so: 400 may simply mean: go look up what the error 400 is in there documentation (the same style as 404 errors in http)
[03:30] <derp> well... derp!  that makes things easy
[03:30] <Blue1> usser: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=81
[03:30] <ve0> jzacsh thx) thats all i whant to know)
[03:30] <usser> Blue1, i just use tar myself :)
[03:31] <snuffy47> fcuk112, How do I fix this
[03:31] <zetheroo> so I am working on creating a customised Ubuntu ISO for people in countries where the Internet situation is less than useful. I am in need of knowing what the dependancies are for X amount of apps ... any resources somwone can point me to?
[03:31] <Blue1> usser: that works too
[03:31] <fcuk112> snuffy47: fix what?
[03:31] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: You have the exact same wifi card that I have in my Dell Mini 10v netbook. Works in 9.10 out of the box when I enabled teh drivers in hardware drivers window. I might have had to enable restricted and the other repo so all 4 main ones were enabled for it to show up in the drivers window. The driver files are right on the CD.
[03:31] <Roasted> I installed cairo dock on my pc, and when I hit the launcher, it does nothing... just... nothing. whatsoever. what can Id o
[03:32] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: Did you install using unetbootin?
[03:32] <axisys> !xen
[03:32] <snuffy47> fcuk112, I need to write the media/movies my home directory HD was not meant for downloads
[03:32] <ve0> hm... and why the iptables swear in this rele?... intresting... google may help...
[03:32] <jzacsh> zetheroo, sounds like a fun project. i'm not very knowledgeable about how package manageent works, but if you're not either, i'd suggest learning about it (read about debian package manager: aptitude) - i'm sure there's a parameter that lists dependencies for applications
[03:33] <fcuk112> snuffy47: dunno, i use my home folder.
 thanks for the heads-up ... I recall there being somewhere online that lists dependancies ... I just forgot where ....
[03:34] <Billiard> snuffy47: what are you trying to do?
[03:34] <cdw32> jzacsh: he im back
[03:34] <jzacsh> cdw32 so, did you reinstall the package yet?
[03:34] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am doing so now
[03:34] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: Waiting for your responce. This card is compatible.
[03:34] <snuffy47> Billiard, get deluge to write to one of my samba share drives
[03:34] <tsrk> How do I tell aptitude to purge a package and also purge the packages that will be autoremoved?
[03:35] <rww> tsrk: sudo aptitude --purge-unused purge packagename
[03:35] <Billiard> snuffy47: can you choose the download path in deluge?
[03:35] <linuxguy2009> tsrk: you trying to remove unneeded installed packages?
[03:35] <tsrk> rww: perfect, thank you
[03:35] <cdw32> jzacsh: i thnk it worked,
[03:35] <linuxguy2009> tsrk: sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:35] <jzacsh> zetheroo: i'm sure there is, a little more googling should help (eg: 'site:ubuntu.com dependencies') - good luck
[03:35] <jzacsh> cdw32: try out www.youtube.com
[03:35] <cdw32> jzacsh: is there a way to check
[03:35] <snuffy47> Billiard, deluge isinstalled on the server with the samber server and it will onlywork when I tell it to download to home directory.  It errors out wihen setting it to /media/movies
[03:35] <tsrk> linuxguy2009: thank, but i need to do what rww said
 cheers
[03:36] <linuxguy2009>  tsrk: Whatever floats your boat.
[03:36] <Billiard> snuffy47: what are the permissions on /media/movies ?
[03:36] <rww> tsrk: you're welcome
[03:36] <snuffy47> Billiard, d775
[03:36] <Roasted> No matter what I do, cairo-dock wont luanch. It used to, I uninstalled ita nd reinstalled it, and now its borked. WHAT CAN I DO?!
[03:36] <Billiard> snuffy47: what uid/gid  ?
[03:36] <cdw32> jzacsh:  Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[03:36] <cdw32> jzacsh: thats what i got
[03:36] <linuxguy2009> Roasted: You running cairo with or without openGL?
[03:36] <snuffy47> Billiard, what is uid/gid mean
[03:36] <toubab> On windows I run the file eqgame.exe with the command 'patchme' in the target field of the shortcut.  How do I run eqgame.exe in WINE with the command patchme attached to it?
[03:36] <jzacsh> cdw32: ok, let me go look something up
[03:36] <flan_suse> Does anyone know where to configure the settings for DeviceKit and PolicyKit? I'm getting a bit frustrated at the fact that on Ubuntu Karmic and openSUSE 11.2 I can't simply insert removable media and use it (like I could with HAL.) Now it always wants the root password.
[03:37] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok
[03:37] <Billiard> snuffy47: whare user and group owns /media/movies
[03:37] <paragonc> where does my kernel source live?
[03:37] <Billiard> snuffy47: what*
[03:37] <snuffy47> administrator/sambahome
[03:37] <usser> toubab, wine eqgame.exe patchme
[03:37] <toubab>  thank you usser
[03:37] <zetheroo1> anyone know where I can download the Ubuntu 9.10 repos?
[03:37] <Billiard> snuffy47: what user is deluge run as?
[03:37] <snuffy47> adminsitrator is only user on server
[03:37] <snuffy47> administrator
[03:37] <hyperstream> !mp3
[03:37] <Vero> iTunes 9.0.2.25 stopped
[03:37] <linuxguy2009>  flan_suse: check your user privledges.
[03:38] <Roasted> linuxguy2009 - I tried both.
[03:38] <Billiard> snuffy47: are you sure, you check in the process list?
[03:38] <usser> paragonc, why at /usr/src of course
[03:38] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: you there?
[03:38] <linuxguy2009> Roasted: Any broken packages?
[03:38] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: this is my output http://pastie.org/700521
[03:38] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Yes I am.
[03:38] <snuffy47> Billiard, process list must find command
[03:38] <Roasted> linuxguy2009 - I dont think so, unless the package are breaking during the last 10 times I installed it
[03:38] <Billiard> snuffy47: ps -ef | grep deluge
[03:38] <jzacsh> cdw32: i found this little thing on adobe (according to it, i also have an old version of flash), see what it tells you: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
[03:38] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: my modem got restarted suddenly so got kicked out
[03:39] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: I take it you completely missed all my answers to you right?
[03:39] <Roasted> linuxguy2009 - I ran it from terminal and just launched it, but its cartoonish and looks... ridiculous... is this because the plugins are missing or osmething?
[03:39] <CaneToad> Is Karmic known to be quite broken with regards to recognition of USB devices?
[03:39] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ya
[03:39] <snuffy47> 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/deluge
[03:39] <jzacsh> cdw32: here, this says it in a little box on the side: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[03:39] <flan_suse> linuxguy2009, I need to be in a special group in order to mount removable media without needing the root password?
[03:39] <cowbud> CaneToad: for harddrives yes, I filed a bug initially about that badness let me dig it up, basically some devices need to be blacklisted for a specific process so they work properly
[03:40] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: You have the exact same wifi card that I have in my Dell Mini 10v netbook. Works in 9.10 out of the box when I enabled teh drivers in hardware drivers window. I might have had to enable restricted and the other repo so all 4 main ones were enabled for it to show up in the drivers window. The driver files are right on the CD.Did you install using unetbootin?
[03:40] <SingAlong> can somebody kick this Toto23 out? sounds like a spammer.
[03:40] <Crewsr3> When I try to play a dvd "movie" with movie player it turns off.....how can I trouble shoot this to see if its a bug.....I have the dvd codecs installed
[03:40] <BA^> hi. i'm using xfce on jaunty and need a good file manager. i don't like thunar. nautilus is ok but seems to do something funky to the window manager... not sure. also is there a file manager that will let you switch in and out of root instead of having to sudo run it? thanks.
[03:40] <Billiard> snuffy47: do ps -ef
[03:40] <cowbud> CaneToad: is it an HD?
[03:40] <CaneToad> cowbud, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/481489
[03:40] <cowbud> CaneToad: sure..
[03:40] <linuxguy2009> flan_suse:  you need to have user privs to mount removeable media. ystem admin users and groups
[03:40] <cdw32> jzacsh: it says im missing a plugin, but ihave flash 10 i checked in the package manager
[03:40] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i installed using the usb stick. downloaded the iso file
[03:41] <snuffy47> Billiard, what am I looking for u want me to paste bin
[03:41] <jzacsh> cdw32: which version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:41] <cowbud> CaneToad: ahh that is a different issue :( good on you though for filing a bug and including a ton of good info
[03:41] <flan_suse> linuxguy2009, okay, thanks.
[03:41] <cdw32> 8.04
[03:41] <cdw32> lts
[03:41] <Billiard> snuffy47: ps -ef | grep deluge
[03:41] <waltercool> why mplayer and avidemux are on multiverse?
[03:41] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: I had the same issue when i used unetbootin. However I just purchased the matching slot load DVDRW drive from Dell for my Mini 10v and it fixed the driver detection issue. i can tell you what files to install from the CD or repos if you want.
[03:42] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: sure
[03:42] <CaneToad> cowbud, I find that sometimes, when plugging in a usb mouse, the system recognises it but X doesn't accept it, same with USB keyboards, and at times, plugging in a usb stick doesn't result in anything, also plugging in a usb audio device sometimes doesn't work....seems VERY BROKEN
[03:42] <cdw32> jzacsh:  and when i go to dl the plugin it fails
[03:42] <cyphase> has anyone else been having issues with the screensaver not starting in karmic?
[03:42] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Let me start up my Mini and check synaptic.
[03:42] <toubab> how do i run an exe from my /home/folder in wine?
[03:42] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i checked to see that the restricted repos are enabled. they are.
[03:42] <jzacsh> oh. well, lts it may be - but I have Jaunty, so I can't say what's happening on my box should be happenning on yours
[03:42] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[03:43] <snuffy47> Billiard, http://paste.ubuntu.com/319724/
[03:43] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: just give me a sec
[03:43] <Crewsr3> When I try to play a dvd "movie" with movie player it turns off.....how can I trouble shoot this to see if its a bug.....I have the dvd codecs installed what log files can I look at to see what is going on?
[03:43] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: sure
[03:43] <Sleepy> how do i get to #ubuntu-us-ny ?
[03:43] <jzacsh> cdw32: which link did you try? (i gave you 2)
[03:43] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, are you still here?
[03:43] <jzacsh> sleepy, i think you just type '/join #whatever'
[03:43] <cdw32> jzacsh: both
[03:44] <owen1> i just install a clean xubuntu 9.10. i installed awesome 3.3.4 (it's the one in ubuntu's repositories) and choose it from the login manager. it's not showing awesome. instead it goes back to the login mananger. am i the only one with this issue?
[03:44] <Billiard> snuffy47: looks like its running as user 1000, whos that?
[03:44] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: bcmwl-kernel-source install that one.
[03:44] <jzacsh> cdw32: and did the flash animation at least play at the top of the page (second link)
[03:44] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: It will need (dkms, fakeroot, patch) as deps.
[03:44] <parker-fcnyu> why does my alt-tab window switcher skip over certain applications, in an inconsistent way?
[03:44] <cdw32> no
[03:44] <Sleepy> thank jzacsh ill try it out
[03:45] <cdw32> it said download plug in
[03:45] <BA^> what's the "best" or "preferred" file manager out there?
[03:45] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ya installing those
[03:45] <cdw32> jzacsh:  and the dl failed
[03:45] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Ok
[03:45] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: is that it?
[03:45] <jzacsh> cdw32 hmf, sorry, i'm out of ideas.
[03:45] <Roasted> how do I keep cairo dock from auto hiding? It seems as if the disable option is... disabled
[03:46] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah me too
[03:46] <snuffy47> administrator I think I min
[03:46] <Roasted> cancel that - just fixed it
[03:46] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: open the hardware drivers windows and see if the new driver shows up now.
[03:46] <waltercool> avidemux, mplayer = gpl'd, why multiverse?
[03:46] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k. its still installing.
[03:46] <cdw32> jzacsh: im going to try another re-boot
[03:46] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[03:46] <jzacsh> cdw32: have you ever had flash on your system before? as a last resort you could try uninstalling everything adobe on your system (the enice viewer for pdfs should be fine for you)
[03:47] <CoolFox> does anybody know how to change the login style under Koala? I my boss can't have the employee list open for all to see like that, we need a username type-in
[03:47] <cdw32> jzacsh: adobe can on the computer...
[03:47] <SingAlong> can somebody just kick this guy toto23 out? he's bugging me via private messages with spam
[03:47] <CoolFox> er, you know what I mean.
[03:47] <Billiard> SingAlong: yea me too
[03:47] <jzacsh> cdw32: it *came* with the computer? (the computer came with ubuntu 8.04 installed?)
[03:47] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am trying the upgrade to improve my vid quality....
[03:47] <hyperstream> put him on ignore.
[03:47] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: An external CD/ DVD drive would have made it work out of the box cause then ubuntu would see the driver file on the CD as a source. I had the exact same issue.
[03:47] <snuffy47> Billiard,  	administrator 	1000 	administrator 	administrator 	/home/administrator 	/bin/bas
[03:48] <cdw32> jzacsh: yes it did
[03:48] <cfedde> SingAlong: add the nic to an ignore.
[03:48] <SingAlong> Billiard: unfortunaly i havent learnt how to kick/ban people on IRC.
[03:48] <toubab> how do i run an exe from my /home/folder in wine with full administrator privledges
[03:48] <SingAlong> cfedde: thanks!
[03:48] <Billiard> SingAlong: i think only a mod can
[03:48] <jzacsh> cdw32: you're trying to upgrade what? your software? your operating system? or hardware?
[03:48] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: packages done installing?
[03:48] <Billiard> snuffy47: so what does deluge say when you try to save somewhere else?
[03:48] <cdw32> jzacsh: software...just adobe from 9 to 10 flash player..
[03:49] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: yes. checking for new drivers
[03:49] <snuffy47> it works in the home/administrator folder
[03:49] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: cool
[03:49] <cyphase> has anyone else been having issues with the screensaver not starting automatically in karmic?
[03:49] <zetheroo1> anyone here know where to get the Ubuntu repo from?
[03:49] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i found 2 drivers Broadcom b43 and STA. which one do i install?
[03:49] <jzacsh> cdw32 yeah, try a reboot like you said. then if it doesn't work I'd try removing everything adobe so you know you're startign from scratch
[03:49] <linuxguy2009> zetheroo1: STA is the actual driver. ignore the other.
[03:50] <snuffy47> Billiard, Its permissions but hmmm
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> zetheroo1:Then your wifi will work like magic.
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> sorry
[03:50] <CoolFox> no takers?
[03:50] <zetheroo1>  linuxguy2009: huh?
[03:50] <Billiard> snuffy47: thats what deluge says? no permission to write there?
[03:50] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok brb
[03:50] <Roasted> cairo dock question - the dock is like 3/4 of an inch above the bottom of my screen. how can I align that sucker so its against the bottom?
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> zetheroo1: sorry my bad
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Your wifi will work like magic now/
[03:50] <zetheroo1>  linuxguy2009: no worries
[03:50] <jzacsh> Roasted: i think i'v'e used cairo before. i think its a preference (what' you're asking to adjust)
[03:51] <Roasted> jzacsh - sooo where do I go to adjust it?
[03:51] <jzacsh> Roasted: you could also try gnome-do (one of my favorite apps) - it has a dock-feature
[03:51] <CoolFox> should I just ask on ubuntu's forums? I mean, the option was there in Jaunty, wasn't it?
[03:51] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Any luck?
[03:51] <snuffy47> Billiard, It says status permission denied but that is on a download screen
[03:52] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i restarted networking after activating STA driver. but still wireless doesnt show up.
[03:52] <jzacsh> roasted, i don't remember, I haven't used it in a while. try right-clicking on a few parts of the dock and finding the "preference" window (something along those lines - i *do* remember adjusting that, though)
[03:52] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Is your raouter broadcasting the SSID? Or did you add it manually?
[03:52] <Roasted> jzacsh - the problem with this program is it has too many damn options. Im so lost on where to go in the config menu
[03:52] <Roasted> jzacsh - got it!
[03:53] <zetheroo1> I am curious ... anyone here using Ubuntu in a developing nation?
[03:53] <jzacsh> Roasted: awesome. now try out gnome-do tomorow :)
[03:53] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: its an open network. it should be detected automatically
[03:53] <Roasted> jzacsh - already have gnome-do installed
[03:53] <Roasted> jzacsh - you use docky with gnome do?
[03:53] <zetheroo1> or .. has anyone here ever used Ubuntu (or another Linux distro) in a developing nation?
[03:53] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: That depends on if the SSID is being broadcast or if it isnt it has tro be added manually.
[03:53] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: should i try the b43 driver?
[03:53] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: No that isnt a driver
[03:54] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: oh.
[03:54] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: try a reboot
[03:54] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: in my previous 9.04, it used to detect automatically. same when i upgraded to 9.10
[03:54] <Billiard> snuffy47: maybe there are permissions in the webui to limit download location, idk
[03:54] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k
[03:54] <zetheroo1> I find it strange that even though Ubuntu and other Linux distro's have such an appeal to those in under-developed nations its almost useless for many because of a lack of broadband
[03:54] <jzacsh> roasted no, i got rid of docky (i didn't like it much). but gnome-do serves me will (and if you like the dock feature, then the dock-option in the theme-tab of the pref. window will satisfy you0
[03:54] <snuffy47> Billiard, If the directory in question is adminstrator/sambahome and adminstrator is part of sambahome then I should be good to go.  I wondering if I can make deluge part of sambahome group
[03:54] <Roasted> jzacsh - that is docky...
[03:54] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: Where ?
[03:54] <zetheroo1> I never realised how stifled life with Ubuntu can be without broadband until I went to Africa for 6 months and felt so lost - ha
[03:55] <Billiard> snuffy47: users belong to groups, not programs
[03:55] <snuffy47> Billiard, Not using webgui using the client program
[03:55] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: pretty much any developing nation really ...
[03:55] <snuffy47> Billiard, Man these permissions are killing me
[03:55] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: Its a bit ironic
[03:55] <cdw32> jzacsh: im back
[03:55] <stealth-> how can I get the PID's of a process name?
[03:55] <jzacsh> roasted: oh yeah, haha - I thought "docky" was another name of ciaro or something (its really been a while since i used it). your answer: yes I've *used* docky. but, i got sick of the dock all together.
[03:56] <eduardo_> Hello, somebody have install the driver for realtek in ubuntu 9.10, I have problems with it
[03:56] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: because those are the people who need it the most ... who cannot afford MS and Apple products ...
[03:56] <Billiard> snuffy47: what is the exact error it gives you?, so i can google
[03:56] <Roasted> jzacsh - did you have a preference in whcih dock you liked more despite not using any anymore?
[03:56] <cdw32> jzacsh: it worked
[03:56] <jzacsh> roasted: i find the quicksilver-style features of gnome-do's themes much better
[03:56] <cdw32> jzacsh: it installed
[03:56] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: "under-developed nations" are well knowned to use worst shit aka zindowz ?
[03:56] <jzacsh> roasted nope :(, sorry
[03:56] <eduardo_> my computer reboot after some minutes when I connect to the wifi network
[03:56] <jzacsh> cdw32, it works now?
[03:56] <cdw32> im checking\
[03:57] <snuffy47> Billiard, Thats the thing it is only permissions denied cannt find the damn log I will do some more digging I appreciated it B
[03:57] <Bam_Bam> Does grub install to sda if that is windows and sdb is an external with ubuntu on it?
[03:57] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: exactly my point .. they would use Linux if the additional software was more accessible .. this is what I have found while being there ...
[03:57] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: no luck.
[03:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: What is the netowork SSID?
[03:58] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: but i have blacklisted acer_wmi in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf should i remove that?
[03:58] <cdw32> jzacsh: i can watch vids, but the picture lags really bad
[03:58] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: How do i find that?
[03:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Chances are the SSID isnt being broadcast. Otherwise you would know it.
[03:58] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: two days ago I offered Ubuntu to a group doing humanitarian work there ... and they loved it .. until I told them that the additional software would have to be downloaded
[03:59] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: well the network is called "Akash"
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Yeah thats the SSID.
[03:59] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: oh sorry. the SSIS is UTStarcom
[03:59] <snuffy47> Billiard, the Directory Media is owned by root that might be the proble,m
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[03:59] <TheCheeze> SingAlong, is that the network name or the workgroup name? ;)
[03:59] <TheCheeze> SingAlong, nevermind, you figured it out lol
[03:59] <jzacsh> cdw32: phew, thought it wasn't going to work. as far as the lagging: this is a draw back to flash as a linux user (and in my opinion, flash in general). I found when I upgraded from the last ubuntu 8 into 9 the lag went away.
[03:59] <snuffy47> need to make it 775 also
[03:59] <SingAlong> TheCheeze: SSIS
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: right click the network icon and edit connections
[03:59] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: You're from america neh, it's an under-developed country, check the clues... They are all here.
[03:59] <SingAlong> TheCheeze: SSID
[03:59] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k
[03:59] <Bam_Bam> Does grub install to sda if that is windows and sdb is an external with ubuntu on it?
[03:59] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64, I am running into a couple of problems. One, When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet", I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:00] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: huh ? I am not from America
[04:00] <aperson> there is no 'eject' in the context menu for my cd drives when there is a blank cd inserted and the eject button in nautilus does not work, any ideas?  my drives' physical eject buttons seem to be disabled also, I have to resort to using the eject command
[04:00] <EasyTUX> ;)
[04:00] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: and?
[04:00] <Billiard> snuffy47: as long as you have read and execute permissions it should be fine
[04:00] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: under wireless , click add, enter the ssid or network name.Apply and close.
[04:00] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok, but i cant upgrade until 10.4 i believe
[04:00] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: and America is not termed an "under-developed" nation at all
[04:00] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: there's a wireless tab. and i clicked add there
[04:00] <jzacsh> bam_bam I believe grub can be installed wherever you tell it to install (you should read up on how to install grub)
[04:00] <webbb82> ok i just installed namebar   how do i take off the normal window borders so i can save space   look here to see the namebar app  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/NameBar?content=101643
[04:00] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: where are you from?
[04:00] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: network name?
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: The SSID
[04:01] <anarcap> Just throwing this out there. (Not expecting anyone to diagnose my problem necessarily) -- I have an ATI Radeon x1650 card that seems to work fine (2d, 3d) but shows mild tearing while playing flash via Hulu, YouTube, etc. Not sure if it's driver (using ubuntu generic), or flash 10 (Adobe's driver). I know it's not compiz since I turn it off. Any ideas, suggestions?
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: If its not being broadcast then you have to manually enter it.
[04:01] <snuffy47> if root owns it I wonnt but what if I make adminstrator member of root goroup
[04:01] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: Where do you come from then, you over-developed guy ! ;)
[04:01] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k i entered UTStarcom in that place and added it
[04:01] <Guest93250> so could anyone tell me the sudo for installing frostwire or limewire?
[04:01] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: if you deem the US to be "under-developed" you should take a trip to Zambia or Bangladesh or something ...
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: try firefox
[04:02] <Billiard> snuffy47: you shouldnt do that, just givning /media read and execute is all you need, which should be the default
[04:02] <IdleOne> !frostwire
[04:02] <Bam_Bam> jzacsh, I'm trying to help someone who used the ubuntu installer and it appears grub was installed on his XP drive
[04:02] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: shouldnt i be selecting the wireless connection first?
[04:02] <cdw32> jzacsh: i just looked in package manager and it says that it is NOT installed
[04:02] <jzacsh> cdw32: yeah, i know its not  a solution, sorry to break the news to you. you could try the free versions of flash (though I really think that'll be a waste of your time). just curiuos, how come you can "not" upgrade until LTS?
[04:02] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: not working
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Well yeah if its listed.
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Try removing the blacklist entry and reboot.
[04:02] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k
[04:03] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: Just like china is...
[04:03] <Ironicus> what advantage ubuntu has on mandriva for coders?
[04:03] <Ironicus> I like the mandriva's skin
[04:03] <greezmunkey> sweeeeetttt, 0 swap used!
[04:03] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: I am Swiss-German/German ... been to 40+ countries on 6 continents
[04:03] <jzacsh> Bam_Bam: I say "you should read about grub" not because I don't want to try and figure it out for you, but because that's the only advice i have (i honestly don't understand much about masterboot records and how the specific boot process works)
[04:03] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have tried upgradeing in the past and it does not work then someone tole mw that LTS versions can only replace LLTS versions
[04:03] <Ironicus> but something tells me ubuntu is better
[04:03] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: so your from China?
[04:03] <ningu> hey... how can I get ubuntu 9.10 to not start gdm on boot, but just boot into the command line (every time)?
[04:04] <ningu> I tried removing gdm from the runlevels with update-rc.d, as suggested in forums, but it has no effect.
[04:04] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: are you saying that Zambia and Bangladesh is as developed as China?
[04:04] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: please take your discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <jzacsh> cdw32, ah - I see. um, I'd suggest (and I suggest this for any operating system) - that you clean install once in a while. I don't think I've ever upgraded a computer.
[04:04] <zetheroo1> losha: why? its Ubuntu oriented
[04:05] <rhett> I get this when doing sudo aptitude update on a new ec2 karmic launch from canonical: Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)
[04:05] <cdw32> jzacsh: how does one go about that
[04:05] <cdw32> lol
[04:05] <rhett> it can ping security.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <jzacsh> cdw32: first of all: make *absolutely sure* you are very confident in your back up system (and make one, if you dont' have one)
[04:05] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: debating which country is more developed does seem ubuntu-oriented to me, but worse, it's boring...
[04:05] <EasyTUX> losha: Okay...
[04:05] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: does -> doesn't
[04:05] <cdw32> jzacsh:  like make a  copy of all of my files
[04:06] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: still no luck
[04:06] <zetheroo1> losha: have you been following since the beginning? .. :) we may have trailed onto a side-road but if your had seen where it came from you would know that it is Ubuntu oriented - by the way .. where are you from?
[04:06] <ningu> no suggestions? I'm not sure how startup works in 9.10, but it looks like it may not use runlevels any more, since there is no /etc/inittab
[04:06] <EasyTUX> losha: What do you prefer in your country ? ;P
[04:06] <jzacsh> cdw32: when I say "clean install", I mean you should make one last backup, clear out your entire hard drive (aka clean), install whatever OS you want on the new/fresh drive you've cleaned. then move your backed-up files into the new system.
[04:06] <zetheroo1> losha: sorry that you are bored ... :(
[04:06] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: click on the network icon you should see a wired network section and a wireless section
[04:07] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: have the wireless one?
[04:07] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: so are you from China?
[04:07] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok...
[04:07] <sebsebseb> !ot |  zetheroo1
[04:07] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: nope. but i found something wrong. the STA was disabled. just enabling it.
[04:07] <cdw32> jzacsh: 9.10 is the latest, so i should go with that
[04:07] <jzacsh> cdw32: yes, backup is essentially a copy of all your files. but it can become complicated when you begin to consider permissions, automation, best-practice as far as saving space, etc.
[04:07] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Theres why.
[04:07] <ha1331> When I start watching video file, SMPlayer uses about 16MB of memory, after I drag and drop another to same window, it suddenly uses ~320MB. After second video file, it doesn't seem to allocate more, but I have seen it use over 400MB many times. Any ideas what causes this? MPlayer process steadily uses 16-18MB.
[04:07] <cdw32> jzacsh: and see
[04:07] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: I think it;s best to keep this channel for its intended purpose: ubuntu support. By all means, discuss it in  #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:08] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah i have no clue
[04:08] <cdw32> jzacsh: i can turn the copmuter on and off
[04:08] <cdw32> lol
[04:08] <zetheroo1> sebsebseb: again ... not off-topic .. please ask about the discussion before labelling it "off-topic"
[04:08] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, I am running into a couple of problems. When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet" does not load. , I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:08] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: let me activate it and try restarting
[04:08] <jzacsh> cdw32: keep in mind, a clean install is a bit of an endevear (you may be distracted mid-process and leave your computer w/o an operating system while you go out to lunch/ or w/e)
[04:08] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[04:08] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: I will surely. Now be gentle with the miss please, shut up.
[04:08] <cdw32> jzacsh: how long are we talking
[04:08] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ah! now after i activated it, it says that i need to restart my comp :)
[04:08] <rhett> Toto23 is spamming me
[04:09] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: good sign
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: but the wireless is already working :D
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: thank you! thanks a lot!
[04:09] <losha> rhett: Toto23 just tried to PM me...
[04:09] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Huge High Five!!!
[04:09] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: uh ok ... "be gentle with the miss"? "I will surely be"?
[04:09] <SingAlong> losha: i know with what links :P
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: haha :D
[04:09] <cdw32> jzacsh: i would have to do a usb boot since i do not have a cd drive
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: now i can installed emacs and all dev tools without a wired tail for my netbook
[04:10] <jzacsh> cdw32: as long as you make it. installs (from the time you click "install" to the time you log into your new/empty system usually take me about an hour. then you wnat to consider backing up your files first (however long that takes), then playing it safe: unarchive your backup, and make sure everything is there and looks normal), then the time it takes you to put your files back on the new system
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Might be a good idea to invest in an external bus powered CD/DVD drive like I did for this exact reason.
[04:10] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: b/w whats the pkg name? bcmwl-kernel-source?
[04:10] <jzacsh> cdw32: h/o
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: yep thats the one.
[04:10] <zetheroo1> losha: the question originally regarding the solutions for the problem many have in the developing world of not being able to access broadband like the rest of "us" can in the developed world .... any ideas?
[04:10] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: And quit your "IT crowed" manners please, life is UN-certain...
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: If you would have installed from a CD/DVD it would have seen the drivers right away.
[04:10] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, I am running into a couple of problems. When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet" does not load. , I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:10] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: also "switch to desktop mode" option seems to be missing in 9.10
[04:11] <cdw32> jzacsh: i dont have a lot on here
[04:11] <sebsebseb> !ot |  zetheroo1
[04:11] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: just add the package. Need the name?
[04:11] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: your rudeness is not becoming of an Ubuntu community member and totally uncalled-for
[04:11] <losha> zetheroo1: frankly, the original question was off topic for this group...
[04:11] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ya
[04:11] <zetheroo1> losha: how is that off-topic?
[04:11] <zetheroo1> =-O
[04:11] <webbb82> what is ibus
[04:11] <zetheroo1> sebsebseb: thank you for the heads-up ... I already replied to you though ... :)
[04:12] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: So what tf candide.
[04:12] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: 1 min gotta remeber the name. hehe
[04:12] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: :D
[04:12] <sebsebseb> !troll |  zetheroo1
[04:12] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: candide? ...
[04:12] <cdw32> jzacsh: that would be .iso i think'
[04:13] <jzacsh> cdw32 what would be .iso?
[04:13] <cdw32> jzacsh: the new os
[04:13] <sridharp1> !
[04:13] <zetheroo1> sebsebseb: yeah .. I am a big bad troll ... arrrrgh ... why don't you just say "There is no solution for that issue" or just stay out of it altogether? .... pfff ... troll ... :P
[04:14] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: I cant find it. Ill ask the room.
[04:14] <jzacsh> cdw32: i don't follow. are you looking at the downloads page of Ubuntu? The ubuntu downloads are in .iso formats, I think, yes.
[04:14] <greezmunkey> I should rm -r /var/log/dumbass then?
[04:14] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k :)
[04:14] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know the name of the package for netbook remix to allow you to change desktop mode from normal to netbook?
[04:14] <Irakirashia> aptitude wants me to install some openoffice packages and in the installation when it tries to remove the existing packages it hangs out, I can't remove them manually, and I can't download anything else. How do I fix it?
[04:14] <cdw32> jzacsh: but i think i need .img format cause i do not a cd drive
[04:15] <cygnus_> what is the most bleeding edge ubuntu called?
[04:15] <zetheroo1> funny ay ... as soon as you bring up an issue which people really have no remedy for ... and probably have never thought of ... people act all  ... "I am so annoyed" and " Your a troll" .... really people you can do better than that ... after all you are Linux users ... :-/
[04:15] <cygnus_> i want to upgrade from 9.10 to that
[04:15] <sebsebseb> cygnus_: early  lucid versions will be rather similar to Karmic
[04:15] <jzacsh> cdw32 oooooh, okay. ha, i didn't know what you were talking about. to make a USB installer: download "unetbootin" via synaptic. also get a USB drive that's at least 1GB and has nothing else on it (as it will be erased)
[04:15] <cygnus_> i need to run glassfish
[04:16] <cygnus_> karmic is incompatible with it
[04:16] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: hmm be patient friend Ill find it if you really need it.
[04:16] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: I'm right here :) np
[04:16] <jzacsh> cdw32: I just found this nifty little graphical app for backing up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault
[04:17] <snuffy47> Billiard, do you think I should change the owner of media to administrator instead of root?
[04:17] <cdw32> jzacsh: im sorry that is what
[04:17] <Billiard> snuffy47: absolutly not, lol
[04:17] <jzacsh> cdw32: my opinion: before doing anything drastic, spend a week or so getting used to a new backup schema, playing with it, unarchiving old backups and making sure you know what do to with a backup when you need one (also figure how you're going to keep your backups somewhere other than on your harddrive)
[04:18] <dsnyders> cygnus_, What's glassfish?
[04:18] <Billiard> snuffy47: you can try it and it wont be any different than just having 755 on /media
[04:18] <zetheroo1> Toto23 ... how about asking before you PM ... Thanks :)
[04:18] <cygnus_> dsnyders: java server
[04:18] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, I am running into a couple of problems. When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet" does not load. , I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:18] <cygnus_> zetheroo1: i think it's a robot
[04:18] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have never backed up before
[04:18] <snuffy47> Billiard, I donnt get it then maybe it is because I have 775 on movies1
[04:18] <jzacsh> cdw32: that was an article for timevault. its an application for helping ubuntu users backup files. see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault/ScreenShots
[04:19] <jzacsh> cdw32: no better time to start then *immediately*. there's nothing like losing your stuff, let me tell you.
[04:19] <snuffy47> Billiard, deluge chat says it will write were ever I want
[04:19] <cdw32> lol
[04:19] <hyperstream_> SB X-FI Xtreme Audio CA0110-IBG <-- my sound card i listed in 'System > Pref > Sound' but it wont play back any audio of any kind
[04:19] <Gametime> I just installed ubuntu today, and i was going to use GRUB to dual boot between my windows 7 and Linux. Now i've done this before, but this time whenever i start my computer, it takes me to a black screen / terminal and i dont know how to get by it or get to boot into either partition. Any help?
[04:19] <Billiard> snuffy47: whats the permissions on movies1 thats the same as movies?
[04:19] <jbuncher> I just use rsync for backups, works great
[04:19] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have most of my school work on my thumbdrive now, and most of the programs i have on here i can re dl
[04:20] <hyperstream_> !X-FI
[04:20] <hyperstream_> !SB
[04:20] <snuffy47> Billiard, there is no movies just movies 1
[04:20] <lesterc> can anyone tell me which gpg key(s) I should have in my system keyring to be able to install ruby on hardy?
[04:20] <snuffy47> wait wait it might be something else one minute
[04:20] <dsnyders> cygnus_, Have you looked at http://balajinatarajan.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/installing-glassfish-on-ubuntu-linux/
[04:20] <zetheroo1> cygnus_: nope ... ha ... if you saw what he/she is doing .... just a waste of time ... sending links to pics etc
[04:20] <hyperstream_> finaly Toto23 was klined :D
[04:20] <zetheroo1> there you go ... Toto23 left ... :)
[04:20] <Datz> can anyone help me with what I should do about my earlier question?
[04:20] <dsnyders> cygnus_, or http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/spoonerandrew/entry/glassfish_on_ubuntu/
[04:20] <Billiard> snuffy47: ok
[04:20] <Irakirashia> aptitude wants me to install some openoffice packages and in the installation when it tries to remove the existing packages it hangs out, I can't remove them manually, and I can't download anything else. How do I fix it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327720
[04:21] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: whats your Dell Mini model?
[04:21] <zetheroo1> but .... I am a troll ... why am i not being kicked out ... haha ...
[04:21] <Billiard> snuffy47: can administator write there without using sudo?
[04:21] <bugaloo> hi guys, could anyone help me with a googleearth problem on ubuntu 9.10? I think this is not only with me... I just installed googleeart, everything seems to be fine, but when I try to trace a route, it's like if route was out of the map. Some times it draws the route over the sea.. does anyone knows what it could be? It happens on different computers with 9.10
[04:21] <jzacsh> cdw32: well, its up to you, if you feel absolutely confident that deleting everything on your harddrive will not result in data loss for you, then go for it. but if that backup you just made (on your harddrive) is your only one, you may want to make a few more in other places. (i can't tell you how many times i thought i had everything that mattered to me backed up, and then only when moving onto a new system did I remember i should've backe
[04:21] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ah k. dell mini 10v
[04:21] <linuxguy2009>  SingAlong: Maybe we can talk in an IM might get yelled at.
[04:22] <andresmh> For the past few days I've been prompted to do a Partial Upgrade due to the removal of some pulseaudio package. Anyone experiencing this? Are we supposed to go ahead and accept the removal?
[04:22] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: np. i found out :)
[04:22] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, Im installing GE now...I'll let you know what I find.
[04:22] <lesterc> I got a "signature check failed" message when installing ruby on hardy (TLS) - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/319741/
[04:22] <dsnyders> Datz, People come and go here.  Ask your question again.
[04:22] <jzacsh> cdw32: i mean: (on your thumbdrive)
[04:22] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, thanks
[04:22] <linuxguy2009>  SingAlong: cool
[04:22] <snuffy47> touch test I will check
[04:22] <EasyTUX> I get pa volume level to 1526% when video plays in firefox (wmv, flash, etc...). Any guess to put it back to a sane value like 100% for example ?
[04:23] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, Takes a bit to decompress, huh!
[04:24] <jzacsh> cdw32 anyways, once you're confident that you can clear your harddrive. just boot your computer from the ubuntu installer, and you'll find yourself on a step in the installation that allows you to install over your existing installation (and in turn deleting everything on that installation). as far as creating the insatller thumb-drive: once you've downloaded the proper ubuntu*.iso file, you can open unetbootin, select the iso from the "brow
[04:24] <wolf23> somebody help plz!
[04:24] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, no problem... are you installing from GoogleEarth binary or synaptic?
[04:24] <andresmh> Update Manager wants to remove pulseaudio-module-udev as part of a Partial Upgrade. Can someone tell me if I can accept without causing any damages?
[04:24] <oddhyena> hi
[04:24] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, bin
[04:24] <dsnyders> !ask
[04:24] <jzacsh> wolf23: can't help you if you don't say whats wrong
[04:24] <bugaloo> ok
[04:25] <cdw32> jzacsh: what would need to be backed up that im not thinking of
[04:25] <datz_> Hi, when I load ubuntu, I get an error: The panel encountered a problem while loading"OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[04:25] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, once it's done I run run the symlink, right?
[04:25] <andresmh> I've noticed the response rates and quality of ubuntuforums has significantly decreased, it's kinda sad. Perhaps the size of the community is too large now
[04:25] <greezmunkey> just run
[04:25] <nhasian> in packages, whats the difference between depends, recommends, and suggests?
[04:25] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, right
[04:25] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, runs here too... but try to trace a route
[04:26] <jzacsh> cdw32: I'm not sure, every person is different. if you're positive that there's nothing that belongs to you oustide of your /home/ directory, than you can make one massive backup of the /home/ directory
[04:26] <wolf23> jzacsh: my child always play nintendo games by gfceu on jaunty, ut now on karmic it doesnot work just if i desactivate the sound
[04:26] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, thought so...
[04:26] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, lika "from here... to here"
[04:26] <Billiard> nhasian: it needs the depends pacages the other ones are what it recomends and suggests lol
[04:26] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, ok, I will.
[04:27] <jzacsh> wolf23: sorry, i have no experience with games on Ubuntu. try looking for help in that particular community? or maybe someone here can help..
[04:27] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, my goal is to be able to tie into it with my Garmin gps for wireless site surveys, we'll see.
[04:27] <gdmsetup> i need to stop pulseaudio... ive tried killall pulseaudio and /etc/init.d/pulseaudio -k and all they do is restart pulseaudio... they only solution ive found is uninstalling pulse, but i dont want to remove it just stop it... how can i do this?
[04:28] <home> Morning gentlemen, anybody else getting an orange image after booting a Wubi installation of Karmic?
[04:28] <nhasian> Billiard, yeah i know the depends one but specifically what is the different between recommends and suggests though?  like why does empathy recommend telepathy-gabble but only suggests telepathy-butterfly?
[04:29] <Billiard> nhasian: because they think more users will want gabble than butterfly i guess
[04:29] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: a proper partitioned install of Ubuntu would be better in the long run
[04:29] <wolf23> helpers, can anyone tell me about a good emulator for nintendo .nes games on karmic plz?
[04:30] <Jahmon> Anyone able to help me with Ubuntu and Aircrack?
[04:30] <kdjfksfcn> any way to associate different icons per network service in nautilus? there is no visual differenciation with sftp, ftp and smb on same server,,they all look the same and i dont know what to click, *snif* :/
[04:30] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: I know, I will do the next time I clear up my drives, but I'm not even getting the short run, worked alright with Jaunty
[04:30] <jzacsh> gdmsetup: run: ps -au<uname> | grep -i pulse
[04:30] <ALT-F4> Howdy, I'm using Ubuntu 9.04. I'm having difficulty getting my Logitech QuickCam to work. Does anyone have any advice?
[04:30] <nhasian> Billiard, doesnt make sense to me.  telepathy-butterfly is needed for communication on the msn messenger network.  so out of the box empathy is not compatible unless you add an extra package?
[04:30] <greezmunkey> Jahmon, there are tutorials on youtube...
[04:30] <wgrant> nhasian: On karmic at least, telepathy-butterfly is Recommended.
[04:31] <jzacsh> gdmsetup this will show you the process number assigned to pulse audio. then run kill <proc#>
[04:31] <Billiard> nhasian: dunno then, its just how they setup the packages
[04:31] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: but am that wont stop pulse from starting next time i boot?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: well  Karmic is a bit of a bad release in certain ways for example things  not working that used to in jaunty
[04:31] <Jahmon> greezmunkey - i know how it works etc - however something is stopping my card injecting from time to time and if i do a network-manager stop then it refuses to inject
[04:31] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, what model and whathappens?
[04:32] <jzacsh> gdmsetup oh, to remove it from startup: system > preferences > startup applications
[04:32] <ALT-F4> jbuncher: I am uncertain as to the model, but I get a static screen and then the program exits.
[04:32] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: plus the new stuff in Karmic is hardly worth it, if running jaunty.   Well 10.04 should be quite a bit better since it's the next long term support as well.
[04:32] <Jahmon> !pastebin
[04:32] <jzacsh> gdmsetup: see if its in that list
[04:32] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, what program?
[04:32] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: if you want to try Karmic, how about a Live CD?
[04:32] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: bash: error sintáctico cerca del elemento inesperado `|'
[04:32] <jatt> !es
[04:32] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: if it's of any concern, I mounted the iso in daemontools and installed, rather than burnt to CD, does Karmic have any post-install necessity for CD?
[04:33] <Moon_Doggy> how do i reset the gnome panels in 9,10
[04:33] <nhasian> wgrant, hmm maybe because i'm using the official empathy PPA they bumped telepathy-butterfly down to suggests instead of recommends for some reason
[04:33] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, Camorama
[04:33] <greezmunkey> Anyone know how to give a running process access to a higher percentage of cpu resources, I know the PID.
[04:33] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: ok that's not what your meant to do with an ISO
[04:33] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, does it work in cheese?
[04:33] <cdw32> jzacsh: i dl unetbootin and installed but it says that mtools are missing
[04:33] <Moon_Doggy> hmm
[04:33] <wgrant> nhasian: Possibly. Little to do with Ubuntu, anyway.
[04:33] <jzacsh> gdmsetup: sorry, I can't read ?spanish? try translating that in google translate?..
[04:33] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: As I mentioned, worked with Jaunty
[04:33] <reduz> gu guys, question, is ubuntu 9.10 more usable now? as i've heard it was full of bugs on release.. as in, is it safer for me to isntall it now?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: you can run  Karmic to get a feel for it inside Windows, in a virtual machine, as long as you have enough RAM
[04:33] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, "man nice"
[04:33] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, I will try that now. But my goal is to get it to work with a chat program, much like yahoo chat in Windows.
[04:33] <Moon_Doggy> ubottu panels
[04:34] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, I'll check it, thanks!
[04:34] <kg> what does "umount: /media/cdrom2 mount disagrees with the fstab" mean?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: and enough hard disk space,  for the vm software and such, which you probably do
[04:34] <jzacsh> cdw32: did you install it via synaptic?
[04:34] <phrix> hi all... I wanna buzz in empathy using YM protocol... any clue...??
[04:34] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, well, if it works in cheese, I think I know how to get it to work.  You said you were running jaunty right?
[04:34] <Moon_Doggy> ubottu ty
[04:34] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, yes, Jaunty, 9.04
[04:34] <Moon_Doggy> i know
[04:34] <Billiard> kg: you mouted something as root which doesnt agree with the fstab file, you will have to unmount it as root, use sudo
[04:35] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: I have Win7 in Vbox  :D  Also, is there much difference between the upgrade and the clean install of Karmic? Save for a few bugs, there didn't seem much added anyway
[04:35] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: normalely Windows as host,   with  Ubuntu or another Linux distro in a vm, I woudn't recommend that normalley
[04:35] <cdw32> jzacsh:  um no i just made it executalbe under properties
[04:35] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, yes that's for something I am about to start. I want to know if it's possible to give a running process a higher priority.
[04:35] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: which Windows is psyicailly installed on there?  XP?
[04:35] <dAlfa89_> XP SP3
[04:36] <sebsebseb> ok
[04:36] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: its easier with system monitor...
[04:36] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: as for upgrades from 9.04 well  many people got issues after doing that
[04:36] <cdw32> jzacsh: how do i do that
[04:36] <jzacsh> cdw32: i think your best bet is to always try synaptic or "add/remove" first
[04:36] <jzacsh> cdw32 try doing it that way. go to synaptic and search "unetbootin"
[04:36] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, http://www.forwardyouth.com/ubuntu/set-the-nice-level-of-an-existing-process/
[04:36] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: however  the ones  I  read  weren't Wubi installs
[04:36] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, thanks for the reminder about that one, it's been a while!
[04:36] <reduz> so, is 9.10 more stable now? can i upgrade?
[04:37] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: ive killed it but it comes up again--- cant kill it...
[04:37] <cdw32> jzacsh: i did nothing came up
[04:37] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, ok, I'll check that.
[04:37] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: last question: any big deal with ext4, or is there not much difference from ext3?
[04:37] <Billiard> reduz: you can upgrade
[04:37] <jzacsh> gdmsetup oh- great, i forget about the graphic windows sometimes. well, you want to remove it from startup -killing it right now won't help you
[04:37] <datz_> Hi, when I load ubuntu, I get an error: The panel encountered a problem while loading"OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".  I'd very much like to get this applet to work if anyone has any ideas.
[04:37] <anathematic> I just had an issue with my ubuntu server becoming unresponsive / no ssh or apache access. What logs should I check now it's been power cycled?
[04:37] <losha> nhasian: http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/9335289.html mentions the meaning of "Recommends" and refers to a policy that I don't seem able to find...
[04:37] <Billiard> datz_: try choosing remove from panel, then add it manually?
[04:38] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, if it works in cheese, it may be that you need to load a compatibility library.  I had to do that with my Logitech cam on Intrepid and Jaunty in order to get it to work with Skype (worked with cheese though).  Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1133991.html for details.
[04:38] <jzacsh> cdw32: sounds like you just need to allow all repositories (i totally don't remember how to turn on all repositories in synaptic)
[04:38] <datz_> Billiard: I didn't see it there, let me check again
[04:38] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: I  nearly tried  Wubi properly  for 9.10,  just to try, and I like how  it warned  about   not getting full disk performance and such.   As for why I coudn't boot up Wubi or  the Debian thing that is similar it seems to of been, becasue Windows wasn't on the first partition on the hard disk.
[04:38] <Billiard> anathematic: /var/log/syslog  maybe
[04:38] <ALT-F4> jbuncher: thanks, I will certainly do that if it works when cheese is done installing.
[04:38] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah im not far off
[04:38] <anathematic> thanks Billiard I'll check it out now
[04:39] <anathematic> it's actually happened twice today after 200+ days uptime so something is weird
[04:39] <jzacsh> cdw32 try synaptic settings > repositories
[04:39] <datz_> Billiard: I can't find it, in the add to panel selection
[04:39] <webbb82> do you guys like openbox  im trying to figure out if i wanna use it
[04:39] <cdw32> jzacsh: there
[04:39] <Billiard> datz_: maybe you need to add it from the package manager
[04:39] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Ext4  well  in 9.04 oh yes big difference
[04:40] <datz_> Billiard: I'll check, I've already added gnome applets
[04:40] <heyho> webbb82: openbox is great, use the closed-source version for the best
[04:40] <nhasian> losha, thanks that helps
[04:40] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, it is working in cheese. I'm going to do that link you sent me now. I appreciate your help! Thanks :)
[04:40] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have three tabs
[04:40] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: much faster  boot up, shut down, and disk checking after 23 or so boots with Ext4 in 9.04, but since the kernel they have and such it's not perfectly stable there
[04:40] <webbb82> heyho, where can i get that
[04:40] <bigcat> what is a "bit mask"
[04:40] <jzacsh> cdw32 okay, read the options, see if there's a way to turn on more resoures (repositories are just the places where synaptic package manager looks to find you softwre). I believe unetbootin is 3rd party software (not cannonical mantained), so you have to enable 3rd party software
[04:40] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: stable enough I should put rather htan perfectly stable
[04:41] <heyho> sun's website, download the .deb package webbb82
[04:41] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: It seems a common theme that many aspects of Karmic aren't stable ;D
[04:41] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, let me know if it works
[04:41] <YaST> guys wich IRC client would u consider the best for you guys? need opinions... bitchx ? irssi? xchat?
[04:41] <Billiard> bigcat: in what context?
[04:41] <heyho> irssi ftw YaST
[04:41] <webbb82> heyho,  isnt this it  http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Openbox:Download
[04:41] <jzacsh> irssi
[04:41] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: stable enough to be relyed on for  really important data and such, well I never got problems in 9.04 with Ext4, some other people did.  As for 9.10 and Ext4 and 9.10 and Ext3, I  first did my clean install of 9.10  with Ext3 to test that
[04:41] <ALT-F4> YaST, I'm using xchat right now cuz it's pointed directly to this channel for me to get help, but I normally use Konversation, I think it's really good.
[04:41] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: I have been testing it when it was in development since alpha 4
[04:41] <jbuncher> dAlfa89_, ymmv on that one
[04:42] <tishikawa1> important data does not belong on an ubuntu system
[04:42] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: then I put it on with Ext4 for my proper install
[04:42] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, [s]nice Thanks, it seems to work - you're ok, you know that!
[04:42] <YaST> im on irssi atm
[04:42] <cdw32> jzacsh: i ahve to physically put in the repository
[04:42] <Billiard> tishikawa1: why would you say that?
[04:42] <bigcat> thank you billiard,i think i have found out
[04:42] <YaST> since bitchx isnt in the repo's anymore in karmic
[04:42] <heyho> webbb82: my bad, i was thinking of virtualbox... what i use
[04:42] <hyperstream_> SB X-FI Xtreme Audio CA0110-IBG <-- my sound card is listed in 'System > Pref > Sound' but it wont play back any audio of any kind
[04:42] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, lol thanks, glad it helped
[04:42] <hyperstream_> it shows up in alsamixer too
[04:42] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: which I might be getting rid of  not  that long from now, if indeed it turns out that  Mandriva 2010 is a great distro,  well I had vm'd an RC and was quite impressed   and the final for that one is meant to be pretty good
[04:43] <snuffy47> Billiard, I could not to one subfolder write without sudo because of a space in the folder name going to test :)
[04:43] <heyho> can we configure the OSD notify in Karmic yet?
[04:43] <Billiard> lol so you were typing the folder name incorrectly?
[04:43] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: with 9.10 on the other hand I have not been impressed with it at all.   overall  I find 9.04 much better
[04:43] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: Mandriva? ):  also, 9.04 <3
[04:43] <freaky[t]> webbb82, do u use openbox? why do u use it?
[04:44] <jzacsh> cdw32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:44] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: yeah Mandriva 2010 is meant to be pretty good, but when I tested teh RC it seemed to lack Ext4 hmm
[04:44] <datz_> Billiard: I can't find it.
[04:44] <napster> Hi all
[04:44] <heyho> i absolutely hate that notifications start at the top of the screen
[04:44] <YaST> what about best media player? that kinda plays all types of formats? Mplayer? :p
[04:44] <webbb82> im  not i was wondering if its worth testing
[04:44] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: What are Mandriva's plus-sides? Any particular features for gamers and coders like me?
[04:44] <scunizi> YaST: mplayer, vlc
[04:44] <jbuncher> dAlfa89_, sebsebseb : just to throw in a differing opinion, I find Karmic to be *much* better than Jaunty, having fixed the intel issues I was having, as well as having *much* better versions of Kile and Okular for my LaTeX-ing needs.
[04:45] <jzacsh> yast vlc. but i believe most applicatiosn can play pretty much anything given plugins
[04:45] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: a RC I should say I think there were like two.   anyway going back to Ext3 or Ext4 in  9.10 it doesn't seem to matter that much from my testing anyway,  they  both booted up about the same Ext3 or Ext4.   Well  the disk check will be slower in Ext3 sure the one after the 23 or so boots.
[04:45] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, now I have the decompression of Google Earth, and X fighting for the CPU equally!
[04:45] <Madpilot> YaST, install the various plugins in Multiverse, and totem (the default player) will run nearly anything...
[04:45] <paragonc> linuxguy2009: what te NVIDIA driver is looking for is the linux source headers
[04:45] <Billiard> datz_: i think its called fast-user-switch-applet
[04:45] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: ,but I didn't test that with Ext3 with 9.10
[04:45] <freaky[t]> webbb82, ah ok ;D
[04:45] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah my window doesnt look like that
[04:45] <paragonc> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.27-15-server
[04:45] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, lol ok then.  Good luck with that?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: well  you can run pretty much every program you can in Ubuntu with other distros such as Mandriva, Fedora, Debian,  etc
[04:46] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, It ran my cpu up to about 85% which is ok, I just want that process to finish.
[04:46] <datz_> Billiard: thanks, I'm not sure how to get it.
[04:46] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Mandriva has some pretty interesting stuff  by default,  it's control centre and such for example
[04:47] <Billiard> datz_: you have that package installed in the package manager?
[04:47] <nomopofomo> has anyone figured out how to get the acrobat pdf plugin to work with google chrome?
[04:47] <YaST> ok.. another question.. my laptop is a core 2 due  t8100 (2.10GHz) wich is the best kernel for it? I got the generic one...
[04:47] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: Control centre? Sounds funky..
[04:47] <wolf23> helpers, can anyone tell me about a good emulator for nintendo .nes games on karmic ? thanx
[04:47] <datz_> Billiard: I did a search in the package manager, that string didn't turn anything up
[04:47] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: I  haven't tried it out properly yet, but  I think it's time soon
[04:47] <Billiard> datz_: i think it doesnt like minuses
[04:47] <jzacsh> cdw32 you can also try here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[04:48] <Billiard> try just the words datz_ fast user switch applet
[04:48] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Control Center even,  but I don't want to spell centre the American way
[04:48] <snuffy47> Billiard, Changed a subfolder from Torrent Downloading to TorrentDownload and it works LOL
[04:48] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: oh quite a few other distros out there as well that are worth trying in a vm at least
[04:48] <Billiard> snuffy47: i see, you were refering to the directory name incorrectly lol
[04:48] <jzacsh> cdw32: honestly you'll be better off just googling a little more on your own and coming here when you're stuck on something you've read. I mean at this point, I'm just googling for you. and finding these pages, but its not as valuable as you doing the searching, because you're actually sitting right at your 8.04 system and know what to look for
[04:49] <yangxiao> ubuntu default remote desktop client Vinagre is terribly slow! Are there any other candidates?
[04:49] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: well I don't need Karmic to fix any hardware :)  as for later versions of programs well ppa's or compile from source or whatever
[04:49] <cdw32> jzacsh: i will take that advice...i am sorry
[04:49] <scunizi> !vnc | yangxiao
[04:49] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: I see, I've tried Debian and Ubuntu, and have investigated Mandriva a couple of times, but Ubuntu is the only one friendly enough for me, I don't know enough to keep the others in check ):
[04:49] <extor> I'm having trouble recompiling the vbox driver, according to this error log is the problem within ubuntu somewhere? http://pastebin.ca/1673034
[04:49] <snuffy47> Billiard, thnx B
[04:49] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: and those Intel issues could have been fixed in Jauntey I expect  and with the fixes coming from the default repos, if  they didn't only provide security updates from them
[04:50] <Billiard> snuffy47: np
[04:50] <jzacsh> cdw32: no need to be sorry, Hope I helped. :) I learn lots by helping so, enjoy this channel.
[04:50] <datz_> Billiard: http://pastebin.com/m1a4c6f55
[04:50] <cdw32> jzacsh: however i am going to have to call it a night...
[04:50] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am trying to learn ubuntu, but it is difficult for me to grasp at times
[04:50] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, yeah, but I hate going outside the repos for things, seems to defeat the purpose unless you limit it to a very small number of apps (something like skype and such).  They could have been, and I mucked with the xorg and got them *pretty* much resolved, but it still wasn't good enough.  The main thing that killed Jaunty for me was the kile/okular situation and the lack of kde3 libs.
[04:50] <GSF1200S> anyone know the default font for e17? Trying to change the font to be a little bigger, but the same font
[04:50] <akyapt> i downloaded a video of the format wmv...em not able to watch it in ubuntu .....what should i do?
[04:51] <yangxiao> thanks, guys
[04:51] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: well I am a bit locked in to Ubuntu really after all this time, using since the second release in 2005,   unfortunatly it has been  going better in certain ways and worse in others since 8.04.
[04:51] <Blue1> akyapt: what are you using to try and play it?
[04:51] <jzacsh> cdw32: well, once you learn each peice of the system you get to keep it, so your time isn't wasted :)
[04:51] <Billiard> datz_: try installing ubuntu-desktop package
[04:51] <jzacsh> akyapt: try installing vlc via synaptic
[04:52] <akyapt> blue1 :movie player
[04:52] <Kris07> Hi, I'm having trouble installing Songbird. Is there anybody that can help?
[04:52] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, it's working with Camorama now. Could you recommend a good program that I can use to chat with Window users that are using yahoo instant messenger?
[04:52] <Blue1> akyapt: totem should be able to play that - is that what you are using?
[04:52] <akyapt> jzacsh:will movie player not work?
[04:52] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: latex  stuff I don't really know about that, but by the way there's a Kubuntu KDE 3  Remix CD for  jaunty  karmic and I think maybe 8.10 as well,  plus a ppa that can be installed
[04:52] <akyapt> blue1 :i tried but its not opening
[04:52] <jzacsh> akyapt it may with plugins  (or natively) - but I've never really given it a chance.
[04:52] <Blue1> akyapt: yeah plugins...
[04:52] <luis_> Hello guys i am giving invitations to lockerz, any one interested click here: http://www.wix.com/Luija1006/Lockerz-Invites-By-Luis-Javier
[04:53] <cdw32> jzacsh: thanks so mucj!
[04:53] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: KDE 3 ppa being for each version, not the same ppa for those three, or whatever
[04:53] <cdw32> Night all!
[04:53] <jzacsh> cdw32: good luck with your system :)
[04:53] <akyapt> blue1 :so wont movie player work?
[04:53] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, I'm mostly a gnome user, but kile is the one kde program I use heavily, so I didn't want an entire remix or ppa for one program and such.  At any rate, everything is working well for me in Karmic, so all is good :)
[04:53] <Sincere> what is ppa?
[04:53] <sebsebseb> !kde3 |  jbuncher
[04:53] <Billiard> Kris07: whats the prob?
[04:53] <cdw32> jzacsh: i need a miracal
[04:54] <dAlfa89_> Back to 9.04 I come <3
[04:54] <datz_> Billiard: should the applet be added after installing ubuntu-desktop?
[04:54] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, glad to hear the camera is working.  For Yahoo Messenger with camera, I was aable to do this on older ubuntu installations using the kde program kopete, and it worked fairly well.  You might want to give that a try.
[04:54] <datz_> Billiard: I still don't see it
[04:54] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: same here mainly a Gnome user, but I run some KDE apps in it here and there,  well  Konversation has been my IRC client for months now,  I guess more like two years or so
[04:54] <Kris07> Billiard, it won't extract into /opt
[04:54] <Blue1> akyapt: you might need a plugin - start with this one:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:54] <aperson> I can't kill a process!  kill -9 won't nuke it, any have any other ideas?
[04:54] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, thanks a lot, your assistance has been invaluable. I really appreciate it, and I'll give kopete a try.
[04:54] <GSF1200S> anyone know how to integrate e17's theme into my apps?
[04:54] <td123> aperson: kill -9 will work
[04:54] <sebsebseb> Sincere: ppa's are basically mini repos for later versions of programs, but they are not fullly supported by Ubuntu,  so sometimes they might brake something
[04:55] <Billiard> datz_: i would think it should, but not sure, some people say its a very recent bug that its not in the repos correctly
[04:55] <akyapt> blue1:ill try...thanks
[04:55] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, I just use xchat.  I'm trying to think of other kde apps I use, and I think kopete is the only one, in the rare cases I need to use a webcam with someone on yahoo.
[04:55] <aperson> td123, no, it doesn't
[04:55] <datz_> Billiard: ok
[04:55] <td123> aperson: is it a zombie?
[04:55] <Billiard> Kris07: wont as it?
[04:55] <Blue1> akyapt: i know that installs gstreamer but i think the wmv support as well I don't honestly remember...
[04:55] <aperson> td123, yes
[04:55] <td123> aperson: well then you can't kill it
[04:55] <kermit> so, if i click this 'upgrade' button, the world isnt going to end?
[04:55] <datz_> Billiard: it worked right after install, but I installed a bunch of software and it stopped working
[04:55] <td123> aperson: a zombie process won't take any memory up
[04:55] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: that annoys me to some extent how  most  Ubuntu users use Xchat,  when there are other rather good IRC clients  as well such as Konversation or IRSSI even after configuring
[04:56] <Billiard> Kris07: soryy, wont as in? it errors or goes somewher else or what?
[04:56] <aperson> td123, it's holding my cd drive shut
[04:56] <aperson> td123, it's vlc that won't die
[04:56] <akyapt> blue1:i already have ubuntu -restricted-extras
[04:56] <Billiard> datz_: idk, maybe it will be fixed after some updates
[04:56] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, why does it annoy you?  I find xchat to be pretty good.  I like it better than gnome-xchat or xchat-gnome or whatever it's called.
[04:56] <jzacsh> aperson: try using a paper-clip to open the cd drive (the tiny little hole in the drive). actually, mayb ethat's a bad idea - if the drive's spinning
[04:56] <kermit> whats the current kernel version with karmic?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: most Ubuntu users that use  the IRC I should say.  well yeah  it's meant to be better than that one, but  try some other clients :)
[04:57] <aperson> jzacsh, it is spinning
[04:57] <aperson> activity light is on too
[04:57] <jzacsh> aperson: was someone just suggesting you kill vlc?
[04:57] <anarcap> My xorg.config is empty - is this normal. I'm using whatever generic drivers ubuntu uses by default.
[04:57] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: oh yeah we are off topic really, but  no  o  p s  or  whatever telling us off
[04:57] <datz_> Billiard: ok, I guess I'll look for it after some updates, maybe I shouldn't have deleted it
[04:57] <sebsebseb> !irc | jbuncher
[04:57] <Spartak> #gultij
[04:57] <td123> aperson: just restart it, or google on tips about how to deal with zombie processes
[04:58] <Spartak> Join #gultij
[04:58] <td123> anyone know when 10.04 alpha 1 will come out
[04:58] <jzacsh> aperson did you type something like "ps -au<uname> | grep -i vlc" and then sudo kill its number? what happened when you tried?
[04:58] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, well then I'll turn it into a support question.  I'm looking for a better client than xchat, but don't want a kde one.  What would you suggest and why?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: irssi then and  people tend to use that with a program called screen
[04:59] <kg> :-)Thank you Billiard, I found the command I needed to unmount it on-line in the Ubuntu Forums.
[04:59] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, now I just need the "why" :)
[04:59] <aperson> jzacsh, I pgrep'd it and I've tried sudo kill -9
[04:59] <Blue1> hmm guess he left...
[04:59] <Billiard> kg: ok
[04:59] <jzacsh> aperson: I'm assuming you've rebooted?
[04:59] <td123> aperson: kill -9 doesn't gaurentee killing a zombie
[04:59] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: why, becasue that's all quite popular well with  experienced  Desktop Linux users,  and it runs in the shell (terminal, konsole if you like even) and so that's good,  and after customizing it it can do a lot
[04:59] <aperson> I'd like to keep my uptime, tyvm :)
[04:59] <greezmunkey> aperson, you can't kill the dead
[05:00] <sjd> I am using Karmic Koala. Upgraded from Jaunty. Now, I need to Install windows too as dual boot. how can I do this? I need grub to be the bootloader. please help.
[05:00] <aperson> greezmunkey, I'm starting to see this
[05:00] <td123> But killing them is not possible as the zombies are dead already.
[05:00] <kermit> whats the current kernel version with karmic?  (someone type uname -a please)
[05:00] <jzacsh> aperson what about logging out? and in? (and yes, what - td123 said - are you sure that's how to kill it? I've never used "9")
[05:00] <aperson> it doesn't have a parent process either
[05:01] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, I'll keep that in mind.  I don't really want to run IRC in a terminal, but that could definitely come in handy if X gets hosed.  I'll be staying away from Konversation, if only because I can't stand the "K" naming in KDE.
[05:01] <aperson> jzacsh, I'm pretty sure I know how to work kill :)
[05:01] <anarcap> hello?
[05:01] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: and your not exactly a newbie if you  use IRSSI,  and I like to joke about xchat sometimes, because most of the new  Ubuntu users that use IRC use it  as well as  a lot of more experienced ones.   anyway as a joke I like to sometimes call it noobchat for this very reason
[05:01] <scunizi> sjd: do you need dual boot for games or something else.. could you get away with a vm of windows?
[05:01] <Arsin> I can't open my EXT3 partition on my flash drive, I get this http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d4702c1d7
[05:01] <aperson> I just happen to have a process that is keeping my cd drive shut as vlc tried to read a bad cd
[05:01] <jbuncher> sjd, generally, you should install windows first.  Since you didn't, install windows to the partition you want, then reinstall the bootloader from a jaunty cd
[05:02] <greezmunkey> aperson, usually a zombie is a child process in a wait state, or some such thing. Once the process that spawned is stops, the zombie will "die" as well. I always have one on my system. I tracked it down to a process that gets started on boot. It's never been a problem.
[05:02] <sjd> jbuncher: not for games. i dont use win but my dad.
[05:02] <aperson> greezmunkey, there is no parent to this
[05:02] <sjd> jbuncher: but karmic uses grub 2 right?
[05:02] <greezmunkey> aperson, what is it?
[05:02] <aperson> greezmunkey, vlc is tried to read a bad cd and is stuck reading it
[05:03] <jbuncher> sjd, fresh installs of karmic use grub 2, if you upgraded from jaunty it's still using grub-legacy, which is why I recommended using a jaunty cd to reinstall the bootloader.
[05:03] <greezmunkey> aperson, does it interfere with your use of the system?
[05:03] <pvvni> What's /dev/console used for?
[05:03] <anarcap> My xorg.conf is empty. Is that normal? I'm using the generic/default drivers.
[05:03] <sjd> jbuncher: okay. let me give a try. how do I install the grub from the Jaunty live?
[05:03] <jbuncher> Arsin, try running an fsck on the flash drive when it is unmounted
[05:03] <Billiard> anarcap: using karmic?
[05:03] <geartrooper> hello, I suddenly lost the ability to right-click and add folders on my desktop
[05:04] <anarcap> Billiard: Sorry, yes. Karmic.
[05:04] <aperson> greezmunkey, well, as I can't open my drive, I'd say yes
[05:04] <Billiard> anarcap: thats fine then
[05:04] <greezmunkey> aperson, hmmm vlc, huh.
[05:04] <jzacsh> anarcap did you uninstall anything lately?
[05:04] <jzacsh> anarcap in example: an ubuntu-desktop package, or gnome-desktop package?
[05:04] <sjd> jbuncher: ?
[05:05] <aperson> greezmunkey, yeppers, is there a way to force eject a drive?  I man'd eject and it doesn't seem to have the capability
[05:05] <anarcap> I'm just trying to figure out why I'm getting tearing in flash (hulu, youtube, etc) playback, and in Compiz effects. (DVD/Video plays fine)
[05:05] <ZaNeIuM>  i got win7 installed then i instaled ubuntu and everythng works nice. not i want to clone the drive to a smaller one and i am using ghost to clone the whole drive. it is resizing my win7 patrion smaller but its all good as it was only using 20% of it.
[05:05] <Ascavasaion> I still cannot access shares on my Linux box from the windows box.  Network neighbourhood sees the computer but when I try to access the computer it says "The computer or sharename could not be found".  When I click Start>Run>computername it says the "network name cannot be found", the same goes for if I use Start>Run> \\192.168.0.2\
[05:05] <anarcap> jzacsh - I've been running ubuntu 9.10 for like a week. I may have made some video changes...let me check
[05:05] <ZaNeIuM> after the cone will i need to run the grub boot loader manualy or should it just work?
[05:05] <jzacsh> aperson try the paper-clip in the pin-hole
[05:06] <aperson> jzacsh, the drive *is spinning* but I guess I can try since the disc is bad anyways
[05:06] <jbuncher> sjd, I'm having trouble finding the exact link, but google for "reinstall grub after installing windows" or something similar.  Just make sure you get one that's grub 1, and not grub 2.
[05:06] <aperson> jzacsh, hah, success!
[05:06] <sjd> jbuncher: okay.
[05:07] <jzacsh> aperson now see if you can kill vlc (just curious)
[05:07] <aperson> jzacsh, no dice
[05:07] <jzacsh> aperson, is it indeed a bad disc?
[05:07] <greezmunkey> aperson, so when you press the button nothing happens?
[05:07] <aperson> greezmunkey, nope, but a small screwdriver did the trick :)
[05:07] <sjd> jbuncher:  hope I got it http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[05:07] <aperson> jzacsh, I'd say after I just broke it in half it is
[05:08] <jzacsh> aperson, sounds like you got revenge. congratulations
[05:08] <aperson> thanks greezmunkey and jzacsh
[05:08] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: The inferior Samba is still troubling me.
[05:09] <jbuncher> sjd, yeah, I think that will work.  You'll have to follow the instructions about adding the windows entry that they give there, as well.
[05:09] <greezmunkey> aperson, you can try this if it happens again: umount -f /dev/"yourCDdrive"
[05:09] <sjd> jbuncher: sure :) thank you!
[05:09] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, did you dig into the permissions side?
[05:09] <Nautilus> Hi again. I'm booted to ubuntu and have a second (ext3) drive hooked up... how do I access it? I did yesterday, either it was in the Places list or clicked around until it did show up there. Not seeing it now though
[05:09] <aperson> greezmunkey, thanks, after ejecting both of my drives, nautilus still has both them listed as having discs in them
[05:10] <aperson> greezmunkey, so I think I'll have to unmount them myself
[05:10] <jbuncher> sjd, hang on, are your windows and linux installs on the same hard drive, or different drives?
[05:10] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: I went ito nautiuls and gave read and write permissions to everynoe.
[05:10] <dno> Hello all!
[05:10] <Ascavasaion> Nautilus
[05:10] <greezmunkey> aperson, try to respawn (kill -HUP) Nautilus, someone here should be able to help with that.
[05:10] <Nautilus> yes? ;)
[05:10] <sjd> jbuncher: different drives. I already had windows. since it sucks, I have to re install. :)
[05:11] <Ascavasaion> Nautilus: Nothing... made a typo and was correcting it.
[05:11] <sjd> jbuncher: but dad is trying hard to switch to GNU/Linux, but takes time!
[05:11] <jbuncher> sjd, can you be more specific about how you have the drives partitioned and which one boots by default and such?
[05:11] <dno> Can some one tell me why I don't have permission to this even with sudo?
[05:11] <Nautilus> Ascavasaion: just funning
[05:11] <anarcap> jzacsh - I've had the tearing problem with flash since the day I installed ubuntu. I've just been putting up with it until now
[05:11] <Ascavasaion> Nautilus: Oh, hehe
[05:11] <jonz> dno - you don't have permission to what?
[05:11] <dAlfa89_> Nautilus: Wow, you must get a LOT of highlighted messages, eh? :D
[05:11] <Ascavasaion> dAlfa89_: BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[05:11] <Nautilus> yea, i prefer when it's typo'd, lol
[05:12] <dno> oops help to put the command: $ sudo echo 1 > /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI  PERMISSION DENIED
[05:12] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, hold a bit, I'll set one up real quick an dtest it to see where you may be going wrong...
[05:12] <sjd> jbuncher: sure. I have two 80 GB HDD. Windows is in the first partition  of the first HDD and Ubuntu is in the first partition of the Second HDD :)
[05:12] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: Um.. okay.
[05:12] <dAlfa89_> Nautilus: Would you rather us call it Nortylas? :D
[05:12] <lstarnes> dno: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI
[05:12] <jbuncher> sjd, where is grub?
[05:12] <bastid_raZor> dno: echo 1 > sudo tee /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI
[05:12] <geartrooper> hello, I suddenly lost the ability to right-click and add folders on my desktop
[05:12] <dno> jonz:  I am having a heck of a time mounting my nas in 9.10
[05:12] <Ascavasaion> dAlfa89_: Or maybe NaughtyLass :)
[05:12] <lstarnes> bastid_raZor: you want a |, not a >
[05:13] <sjd> jbuncher: first hdd, first partition.
[05:13] <Nautilus> dAlfa89_: how about nauti-less
[05:13] <aperson> now to figure out why blank discs don't have eject in the context menu!
[05:13] <bastid_raZor> lstarnes: correct. my mistake
[05:13] <aperson> and why the eject button next to them in nautilus does nothing
[05:13] <Nautilus> Ascavasaion: good one
[05:13] <sjd> jbuncher: im not sure, How can I confirm that?
[05:13] <jbuncher> sjd, so grub is installed to the MBR of the windows drive, and when you boot ubuntu the "ubuntu" drive shows up as /dev/sdb or /dev/hdb?
[05:14] <jonz> dno sorry, i don't have experience w/nas's.
[05:14] <Ascavasaion> jbuncher: I think hd = ATA, and sd=SATA... not sure though.
[05:14] <sjd> jbuncher: exactly, sdb2
[05:14] <anarcap> jzacsh :: I used the guide here (http://guvnr.com/pc/ubuntu-top-software/) in order to configure a lot of packages, etc. after I installed ubuntu 9.10. I installed the Flash 10 driver from Adobe.
[05:14] <Nautilus> so, how do I see my other ext3 drive? I dont recall mounting it yesterday when I got it to go, but maybe something I clicked on did that for me.
[05:14] <gorlak_> anyone found a workaround to the issue of 9.10 5+minute boot time and sometimes failure of the video (being dumped at the cmd prompt)
[05:15] <jbuncher> Ascavasaion, depends on the version of ubuntu he's running, that distinction was done away with so that everything is /dev/sdx in later versions.
[05:15] <dAlfa89_> Okay ladies, Wubi is still giving me hassle on boot, same thing as with Karmic: Background shows; no GDM; No dropping to command-line  ):
[05:15] <dAlfa89_> 9.04 and 9.10 go through the same thing
[05:15] <Ascavasaion> jbuncher: Okies, thanks.
[05:15] <dno> jonz: Thanks
[05:15] <Madpilot> Ascavasaion, the hd/sd thing went away at least a couple of Ubuntu releases ago
[05:16] <jbuncher> sjd, ok then.  I was curious if windows was on the "first" drive as the motherboard saw it, as windows gets angry when it's not, and you may have had to mess around with the "map" commands in the windows grub entry.  That doesn't seem to be the case though.
[05:16] <dno> Does anyone know how to mount a nas?
[05:16] <jonz> anarcap i'm not familiar with that article. does it have you remove anything?
[05:16] <anarcap> My ATI x1650 works great (2d, 3d) except for tearing in flash playback and compiz effects like wobbly windows and cube.
[05:16] <anarcap> jonz - no. I didn't actually remove anything. I just installed stuff.
[05:17] <dno> or should I say trouble shoot the correct permissions?
[05:17] <scottyg> hey what are some cool new apps for ubuntu?
[05:17] <jbuncher> Ascavasaion, and I think that happened at the kernel level, so it's not ubuntu-specific.  I think it happened after hardy, though I'm not sure.
[05:17] <jbuncher> Ascavasaion, there was a whole new driver stack at one point.
[05:18] <jordanl> i came back to my computer and it seems like it's frozen (the screen is black, the keyboard/mouse unresponsive, etc.) but I can ssh into it from another computer. does anyone know if i can recover my session? (i'm ssh'd into it remotely right now)
[05:18] <sjd> jbuncher: now lets put it this way: I have windows on the first hdd. called sda1. ubuntu on hdd2 sdb2. grub in sda1. now Im going to format sda1 and reinstall windows. then boot up from a jaunty live and use sudo grub to fix grub. okay?
[05:19] <jbuncher> sjd, that sounds good.  Though I don't think you have grub installed to /dev/sda1, but rather the Master Boot Record (MBR) of /dev/sda .  It *is* possible to install grub to a partition, though that's not normally done unless you're chainloading and such from another bootloader.
[05:19] <jonz> scottyg: I found an awesome article in the ubuntu forums the other day: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=382137&highlight=entity+relationship+diagram&page=2
[05:19] <anarcap> Should I be using the fglrx drivers for my x1650 radeon card?
[05:19] <jonz> scottyg: I found a ton of awesome apps listed there
[05:19] <sjd> jbuncher: i guess so. but the above steps should go fine right?
[05:20] <napster> !crunchbang
[05:21] <jbuncher> sjd, yeah, they should work.
[05:21] <sjd> jbuncher: thanks bro! :)
[05:21] <jbuncher> sjd, no problem
[05:22] <jonz> jordanl: try running top
[05:22] <yast> is there anyway to use fluxbox+compiz ? xD
[05:22] <jga23> anybody know why a mount (via smbmount in terminal) wouldn't show any files/directories using ls, but I can cd into directories?
[05:22] <yast> or compiz only works with gnome and kde?
[05:22] <anarcap> napster :: I tried #crunchbang for a few days. I really liked it.
[05:23] <napster> anarcap: And what is openbox...?
[05:23] <napster> in crunchbang
[05:23] <jbuncher> yast, that's an interesting question.  Is fluxbox actually a "desktop environment" like GNOME or KDE, or is it just a window manager with a few extra pieces?
[05:23] <CarlFK> jga23: directory rights - I think you have exec but not read.
[05:23] <yast> jbuncher: itts like gnome and kde
[05:24] <yast> alot neater tho
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> yast, no fluxbox+compiz i'm affraid - they are both the same thing Windows Managers
[05:24] <yast> that sucks
[05:24] <CarlFK> can someone pastebin a grub.cfg that has a windows boot?
[05:24] <yast> fluxbox+compiz would rock
[05:24] <yast> what about fluxbox+xgl ?
[05:25] <yast> its nearly the same ting tho
[05:25] <jga23> CarlFK: how can I change the directory rights?
[05:25] <yast> thing*
[05:25] <jbuncher> yast, I was asking technically.  My first intro to linux was fluxbox+debian, so I'm well acquainted with it, but I always thought fluxbox was just a window manager (like metacity), so that means compiz would have to replace fluxbox, which kills the point.
[05:25] <lstarnes> CarlFK: you shouldn't be editing grub.cfg directly.  There is a file in /etc/grub.d for custom entries
[05:25] <sontek> Is there a Rosetta Stone like app for Ubuntu?
[05:26] <_ged> hi, does anyone managed to install a pgAgent on ubuntu here? (it's a job scheduler for postgres)
[05:26] <CarlFK> lstarnes: k - can someone pastebin that?  guessing /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[05:26] <yast> jbuncher: Im quite a newbie in linux... lol so I would not know .. I know some basics that I've learned a few years ago.. but then I stopped using linux for like 6 or 7 years
[05:26] <yast> kinda lost pretty much all the basics that I knew
[05:26] <yast> :)
[05:26] <anarcap> napster - openbox is a window manager
[05:26] <anarcap> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[05:26] <napster> anarcap: ty m8
[05:27] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: oh right didn't know that, well I haven't read up about Grub 2 just yet
[05:27] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: I have been wondering how to edit it though
[05:27] <anarcap> napster :: ty m8 (?)
[05:27] <chowells_> I'm running xubuntu, clean install, and the window manager (xfce) seems to not be running.  what might cause this, where might I find a log file saying that's going on?
[05:27] <jbuncher> yast, ok, was just wondering.  But yeah, I don't think compiz is possible on fluxbox/openbox/blackbox/etc.  There might be some other way of getting compositing though.
[05:27] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: since the config file says not to edit
[05:27] <jbuncher> chowells_, can you elaborate?
[05:27] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: it even gets overwritten when grub is updated
[05:27] <CarlFK> jga23: it is either rights of the filesystem being shared over samba, or samba is imposing more restrictions - neither can over ride the other, so its hard to know what needs to be changed
[05:28] <linuxghost> sebsebseb hi
[05:28] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: but /etc/grub/40_custom isn't overwritten
[05:28] <anarcap> Does anyone here know much about ATI Drivers?
[05:28] <yast> bcuz on compiz config gui its says only compatibility with gnome and kde tho
[05:28] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: the do not edit config file you mean?
[05:28] <chowells_> jbuncher:  have you ever run X without a window manager?  that's exactly what's going on.  no window decorations, etc
[05:28] <sebsebseb> linuxghost: hi
[05:28] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: grub.cfg gets overwritten
[05:28] <jga23> CarlFK: hmm, I'm trying to connect to my airport extreme.  works great in nautilus, but not in terminal
[05:28] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: oh ok
[05:28] <yast> wich is quite frustrating.. sure if I google I'll find something out.. either fluxbox+compiz or fluxbox+xgl
[05:28] <jbuncher> chowells_, ah, so like the titlebar and max/min/close buttons aren't showing?
[05:28] <jonz> chowells_: not sure this is what you're looking for, but try: cat /var/log/dpkg.log
[05:29] <napster> anarcap: Ohh yup. Thats "Thank You Mate"
[05:29] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: can I change the colours for the new Grub,  I assume I can some how,  with the old that was easy just uncomment pretty colours for example
[05:29] <chowells_> jbuncher: yes
[05:29] <napster> anarcap: New to channels..?
[05:29] <linuxghost> sebsebseb i didnt noolve my trouble, its dificult to update via live cd
[05:29] <napster> anarcap: :)
[05:29] <linuxghost> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:29] <linuxghost> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[05:29] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: I think there's a setting somewhere
[05:29] <lstarnes> CarlFK: http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/ may be useful
[05:30] <jbuncher> chowells_, that actually happens once in a great while on my hardy install with nvidia drivers, I usually juts log in and out to fix it.  If it happens every time for you though, that likely won't fix it.
[05:30] <sebsebseb> linuxghost: maybe  lstarnes  can help you out nicely, if you tell him about your problems, I will be going to bed soon
[05:30] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: please don't refer people to me
[05:30] <CarlFK> lstarnes: thanks - looks good
[05:30] <chowells_> jbuncher: hmm.  My video drivers are currently broken.  I'll fix them and see if that helps
[05:30] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: ok np sorry
[05:31] <anarcap> napster - I've used channels off and on for years. Never more than recently though. PS. I new TY, but not m8. Thanks
[05:31] <soreau> yast: The thing that is most often confused is the difference between *box sessions and the window manager of the same name. compiz is a WM. *box is a WM. Only one WM can run at a time for any given X session
[05:31] <linuxghost> ﻿lstarnes:  U  dnt want to help me?
[05:31] <lstarnes> linuxghost: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[05:31] <jbuncher> chowells_, that might be, if it's trying to load compiz and all of the 3d goodness isn't happening.  Maybe try turning off compiz first and seeing if it helps?
[05:31] <Nautilus> i'm stumped but this should be easy. I can see the ext3 drive I want in my file browser, but doing an 'Open' does nothing. I see the partition I want in dev/disk/by-id but clicking there just says it doesnt have a suitable application for the filetype
[05:31] <doltek> What program do I use to extract files that are in multpiule pieces
[05:31] <anarcap> Closed fglrx VS open source ATI drivers ?? Anyone have an opinion on that?
[05:31] <napster> anarcap: But I'm new to channels. Just kidding m8   :)
[05:32] <yast> soreau: hmmm didnt know that... thkz for clarifiing tho :)
[05:32] <linuxghost> yes , i run the output:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:32] <linuxghost> dpkg: failed to write status record about `bogofilter' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[05:32] <linuxghost> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:32] <anarcap> napster: are you english?
[05:32] <napster> anarcap: And whats that PS...?
[05:32] <lstarnes> linuxghost: check df -h
[05:32] <jbuncher> Nautilus, sudo mount -t ext /dev/whatyouwantmounted /where/you/want/mounted
[05:32] <lstarnes> lzy: you might be out of space
[05:32] <napster> anarcap: NO
[05:32] <Ascavasaion> Okay, I made the folder ni the linux Samba share drwxrwxrwx and it STILL does not come up as a share when I try to enter it from the Windows machine.
[05:32] <lstarnes> lzy: sorry, wrong user
[05:32] <jbuncher> Nautilus, sorry, correction, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/whatyouwantmounted /where/you/want/mounted
[05:33] <anarcap> What IRC client do you use.
[05:33] <Nautilus> jbuncher: is there a GUI way?
[05:33] <napster> anarcap: Me...? Using Xchat...
[05:34] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, I'm booting on of my winboxen now to test, brb
[05:34] <erikk71usa> i guess ubuntu wont be able to fix the slpash screen problem for people who have intel onboard video i still cant use ubuntu 9.10
[05:34] <sebsebseb> anarcap: I use Konversation :)
[05:34] <jbuncher> Nautilus, none that comes to mind if the partition you want mounted doens't show up in the places menu.  Maybe open "computer" and see if it's there.  If it is, try double-clicking.
[05:34] <anarcap> napster: where are you from...somewhere where "mate" is  used.
[05:34] <jbuncher> erikk71usa, what chipset?
[05:34] <sebsebseb> erikk71usa: and 9.04 is bad as well for you?
[05:34] <anarcap> sebsebseb - Konversation. KDE I take it.
[05:35] <sebsebseb> anarcap: it's a KDE app yes, but I run it inside Gnome :)
[05:35] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: Thank you.
[05:35] <erikk71usa> no
[05:35] <erikk71usa> 9 .04
[05:35] <napster> anarcap: No no. I just used it for something like...like...."Buddy".....   ;D
[05:35] <erikk71usa> is fine
[05:35] <anarcap> sebseb: I'll give it a shot.
[05:35] <sebsebseb> anarcap: ok good, and yeah it's pretty good
[05:35] <Nautilus> jbuncher: Oh I think I got too deep into dev/disk/by-id. now I see the sda and sdb in /dev
[05:36] <cmgstephen> mental block: I need to add a user to an svn repo. what's the appropriate svnadmin command to add the user with an md5 encrypted password?
[05:36] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, np, been a while since I've done this, but it all looks about the same. Should have it in a bit.
[05:36] <chompy> is there a good program that can stitch together photographs to make a panoramic?
[05:36] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: Okies
[05:36] <jbuncher> Nautilus, ok.
[05:36] <sebsebseb> erikk71usa: ok well for various reasons I find 9.04 better overall than 9.10
[05:36] <m3onh0x84> @all: please read carefully user guide on ubuntu document :D
[05:36] <erikk71usa> i install ubuntu 9.10 as soon as i restart it i see the white ubuntu logo an the screen goes black an sits there
[05:36] <oddhyena> chompy, there's hugin
[05:37] <jonz> chompy hugin
[05:37] <chompy> thanks :)
[05:37] <GSF1200S> is there anyway to change gtk themes of programs if you are using e17 instead of gnome
[05:37] <benc1> what is "${idopts}" in init.d script?
[05:38] <Nautilus> jbuncher: I right click on sda1, but no option to mount it
[05:39] <napster> Can i transfer all the bookmarks in my browser to another system...?
[05:39] <napster> Any idea..?
[05:39] <erikk71usa> i guess when  9.04 not supported
[05:39] <erikk71usa> then what
[05:39] <Linuxghost> lstarnes: hi
[05:39] <jonz> napster, yess
[05:40] <jbuncher> Nautilus, does the partition show up in Places -> Computer?
[05:40] <lstarnes> Linuxghost: you might be out of HD space
[05:40] <lstarnes> Linuxghost: check df -h
[05:40] <napster> jonz: How...?
[05:40] <Nautilus> napster: sure, but maybe  you'd like xmarks.com
[05:40] <erikk71usa> keeping running it with no suppport
[05:40] <Linuxghost> Ok
[05:40] <crohakon> Warzone is a decent game.
[05:40] <jonz> napster if you're using firefox, click Bookmarks > "organize bookmarks" > "import and backup" > "backup"
[05:40] <lstarnes> erikk71usa: you can probably still update to 9.10 when 9.04's support ends
[05:40] <lstarnes> erikk71usa: 9.10 will likely be more stable by then
[05:41] <Nautilus> jbuncher: yes it's there now, I did a reboot and wiggled power wire, inspected etc
[05:41] <jbuncher> ok
[05:41] <erikk71usa> not if it hangs up on the boot
[05:41] <erikk71usa> i cant
[05:41] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, get you apt-get install samba by any chance?
[05:41] <jonz> napster Nautilus: ++  I also keep my bookmarks mostly online (igoogle's bookmarks)
[05:41] <jbuncher> Nautilus, try double-clicking that
[05:41] <Nautilus> jbuncher: have done that and right-click Opened, nothing happens
[05:41] <napster> Nautilus: jonz thank you   :)
[05:41] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: You mean did I?  Nope.
[05:41] <jbuncher> erikk71usa, what graphics chipset do you have?
[05:42] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkeyBack in about 10 minutes.
[05:42] <Nautilus> jonz: cool
[05:42] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, Haha, you need to!
[05:42] <erikk71usa> i dont know its a dell gx 260
[05:42] <lstarnes> erikk71usa: you could check lspci | grep VGA
[05:42]  * greezmunkey knows Ascavasaion has been working on this all day, calling it SH1t too!
[05:43] <peepsalot> anyone have experience with playing ripped dvds in ubuntu?
[05:43] <Blue1> peepsalot: some
[05:43] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, I was able to install and browse in in about three minutes.
[05:43] <jonz> peepsalot: nope. have you played with a bunch of difference apps? (vlc for example?)
[05:43] <peepsalot> Blue1, what program do you use, and which file is the one to see the menu screen
[05:43] <Brent> if i boot my computer up with 2 video cards installed SLI, i get no display once ubuntu starts, if i take one out, everything works fine like normal. how would i get both cards working together?
[05:43] <greezmunkey> He' gonna really hate it now! :]
[05:43] <Blue1> peepsalot: can we go to private message?
[05:44] <peepsalot> Blue1, ok
[05:44] <Nautilus> jbuc: cmd  line way, is this right?:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /myoldhd
[05:44] <aperson> greezmunkey, the cd must have magically un-mounted itself at some point!
[05:45] <greezmunkey> aperson, you good then?
[05:45] <Nautilus> jbuncher: cmd line way, is this right?:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /myoldhd
[05:45] <aperson> greezmunkey, indeed
[05:45] <aperson> don't know why I felt the need to update you :)
[05:45] <ha1331> Nautilus: seems right
[05:46] <jbuncher> Nautilus, if you want to mount the drive to the folder /myoldhd , then yes.
[05:46] <greezmunkey> aperson, got some samba tweeking to do for Ascavasaion, he hates samba!
[05:46] <m3onh0x84> what is fast protocol : google SPDY or http ?
[05:46] <ha1331> Nautilus: Your mounting the first partition of sda to /myoldhd
[05:46] <m3onh0x84> what is fastest protocol : google SPDY or http ?
[05:46] <Nautilus> yup
[05:47] <Brent> if i boot my computer up with 2 video cards installed SLI, i get no display once ubuntu starts, if i take one out, everything works fine like normal. how would i get both cards working together?
[05:47] <Nautilus> jbuncher: this'll be just fine to copy my files off
[05:47] <jbuncher> Nautilus, ok
[05:47] <jonz> has anyone implemented any good backup bash or sh scripts on there box's?
[05:48] <jbuncher> erikk71usa, your "blank screen" problems in karmic might be fixed by turning off KMS at boot with the "nomodeset" opetion
[05:48] <Nautilus> jbuncher: mount: mount point myoldhd does not exist
[05:48] <kermit> is 9.10 really 4.4GB bigger than 9.04, installed??
[05:48] <ha1331> Nautilus: you can unmount it later using either sudo umount /dev/sda1 or sudo umount /myoldhd
[05:48] <kermit> thats 50% bigger in juts 6 months
[05:48] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: I am back.
[05:48] <jbuncher> Nautilus, you need to create the folder first before trying to mount a drive to it.
[05:48] <aperson> jonz, I use grsync to figure out what to tell rsync, and then I use that in a script
[05:48] <ha1331> Nautilus: didi you create the directory first?
[05:49] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: When I do an apt-get nistall samba it wants to uninstall a whole ton of stuff.
[05:49] <Nautilus> oh. hrm
[05:49] <jonz> aperson: thanks :)
[05:49] <jbuncher> kermit, why do you think it's that much bigger?
[05:49] <Nautilus> dang i just clicked around yesterday and I was in.
[05:49] <gcleric> jonz, yes... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581680
[05:49] <kermit> jbuncher: thats what the installer says
[05:49] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, like what?
[05:49] <kermit> jbuncher: er, the upgrader
[05:49] <jbuncher> kermit, what exactly does the installer say?
[05:49] <rhorse> Brent: nvidia?
[05:49] <jbuncher> kermit, what exactly does the upgrader say?
[05:49] <erikk71usa> jbuncher that stuff im totally lost at
[05:50] <kermit> jbuncher: that i need 4400MB free to upgrade
[05:50] <jonz> gcleric: thanks
[05:50] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: Let me have a look.
[05:50] <Brent> yeah
[05:50] <Brent> nvidia
[05:50] <jbuncher> kermit, well, a good chunk of that is just the fact that you need to download every single package.  So in order for the upgrade to work, you need enough space to download *everything*, and then enough space to unpack all of that while overwriting the old stuff.
[05:51] <erikk71usa> editing grub an stuff im totally clueless at
[05:51] <Nautilus> i cant read files on another HD without creating a directory the boot one?
[05:51] <Nemtaro> Hi there, I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.1 using the official ISO, or the UNR iso from a usb key on an Acer Aspiron one, and get this error message: "The attepmt to mount a file system with type ext4 in SCSI2 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at / filed. Any ideas?
[05:51] <jbuncher> erikk71usa, ok, just thought you might want to try it.
[05:52] <kermit> jbuncher: oh, so when its all done i'll get a lot of that space back?
[05:52] <erikk71usa> early blew a power supply
[05:52] <erikk71usa> trying hitting control alt delet
[05:52] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: Samba is already newest version.  Those other aplications were unecessary and I used apt-get autoremove
[05:52] <jbuncher> kermit, you'll get most of it back if you clean the packages out of /var/cache/apt/archive/ with "sudo apt-get clean"
[05:53] <jbuncher> kermit, my karmic install only takes up ~6-7 gigs, which is exactly the same as my hardy install.
[05:53] <jonz> gcleric: this is an AWESOME tutorial!
[05:53] <grendal-prime> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:53] <Meowpup> anyone know if there is a christian alternative to terminal fortunes
[05:53] <grendal-prime> this openvpn netmanager thing is really pissing me off
[05:54] <erikk71usa> proves how stupid ubuntu developers were in not address the issue before 9.10 was released
[05:54] <lstarnes> erikk71usa: they have to follow a 6 month release schedule
[05:54] <gcleric> jonz,  thank you. =)
[05:54] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: So still no go.
[05:54] <oddhyena> is it okay to install packages from the debian repository if the ubuntu repository doesn't have a specific package?
[05:54] <lstarnes> oddhyena: generally, no
[05:55]  * john is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[05:55] <oddhyena> I installed sdlmess from the debian repo and it seems to work fine
[05:55] <jbuncher> oddhyena, generally no.  Try finding the package you want in a ppa.  what package specifically?
[05:55] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, hold a bit longer, you're trying to create a share from linux to a winbox right?
[05:55]  * TrueSongMedia doesn't care about X-Sys
[05:55] <TrueSongMedia> ^_^
[05:55] <billybigrigger> anyone here familiar with bash scripting? #bash is dead
[05:56] <jonz> billybigrigger: yes. and you can find a lot about it on unix.com
[05:56] <Billiard> billybigrigger: i can help whats the prob
[05:56] <oddhyena> sdlmame is in the ubuntu repository but not sdlmess
[05:56] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.ca/1673081
[05:56] <billybigrigger> there is my script
[05:57] <Billiard> billybigrigger: ok, and the prob?
[05:57] <billybigrigger> i'm trying to run this script, either from command line, or quick launch in my panel...i want to run a stunnel command, and then launch pan newsreader...and have it exit cleanly, freeing up the terminal
[05:57] <billybigrigger> but it doesnt free up the terminal
[05:57] <RUNINWATER_CPO2> whats up
[05:57] <Meowpup> anyone know if there is a alternative to terminal fortunes
[05:57] <billybigrigger> shown here in this paste...http://pastebin.ca/1673082
[05:57] <Blue1> billybigrigger: my first line says:  #! /bin/bash
[05:57] <erikk71usa> when does 9.04 support end
[05:58] <jbuncher> Meowpup, sounds like you're asking about some band :)
[05:58] <lstarnes> erikk71usa: october 2011
[05:58] <jbuncher> erikk71usa, october 2010
[05:58] <Blue1> billybigrigger: your's says -- #!/bin/sh
[05:58] <billybigrigger> :) that might help
[05:58] <jbuncher> lstarnes, 2010 right, for desktop?  18 months?
[05:58] <jonz> billybigrigger: keeping #!/bin/sh is okay, it actually will be a more protable script
[05:58] <billybigrigger> i changed it to bash and still the same behaviour
[05:58] <Nemtaro> I'm trying to use gparted to parition my 8gb disk on an Acer Aspiron netbook, it creates the paritions, and I can format it as ext4, but when gparted searches for the drives again, it lists the parition as "unknown" - any ideas?
[05:58] <lstarnes> jbuncher: 18 months desktop and server
[05:58] <lstarnes> jbuncher: so it's oct 2010
[05:59] <jonz> billybigrigger: i'd suggest trying to keep it sh
[05:59] <jbuncher> lstarnes, ok, so you just had a typo then. (told erikk71usa it was 2011)
[05:59] <Blue1> billybigrigger: dunno this is more then I know...
[05:59] <Billiard> billybigrigger: looks like gksudo thinks -c is for itself but -c is for stunnel right?
[05:59] <billybigrigger> Billiard, yes -c is for stunnel
[05:59] <lstarnes> jbuncher: I thought this year was 2010
[05:59] <jbuncher> lstarnes, lol that will do it.
[06:00] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: Yes, I shared a folder /home/joel/Public on the Linux box, and I am now on an old Windows 98 box and trying to access that share.  In Network Neighbourhood I can see the linux machien called 'fellowship', but when I click it to see the shares on it it says that the Network name or share cannot be found.
[06:00] <Meowpup> jbuncher: thats not funny
[06:00] <erikk71usa> if issue aint fixed
[06:00] <erikk71usa> keep running 9 .04
[06:00] <lstarnes> Meowpup: it was funny to me
[06:00] <Meowpup> ok then how can i edit what fortuned are in fortunes in terminal
[06:00] <lstarnes> Meowpup: see /usr/share/games/fortunes
[06:00] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, did you make a copy of you original smb.conf file?
[06:00] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: yes.
[06:00] <erikk71usa> safer than windows 7 im sure
[06:01] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, it's just a permissions issue, let me check a few things, brb
[06:01] <vxbinaca> hello
[06:01] <lstarnes> erikk71usa: you might want to check http://launchpad.net and see if someone else has the same bug
[06:01] <lstarnes> erikk71usa: if not, file a bug report
[06:01] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: I said chmod +rwxrwxrwx public
[06:01] <erikk71usa> its karmic
[06:02] <erikk71usa> something they changed
[06:02] <Nemtaro> let me ask this differently, for installing ubuntu on a netbook, should I go with 9.1 or 8.04?
[06:02] <jbuncher> lstarnes :  from what he's mentioned, it looks like it's the "blank screen" issue on some intel chips that's listed in the release notes.
[06:02] <lstarnes> Meowpup: 9.10 or 9.04
[06:02] <lstarnes> Meowpup: sorry, wrong user
[06:02] <Billiard> billybigrigger: you could try gksudo -i 'nohup stunnel ....'
[06:02] <lstarnes> Nemtaro: 9.10 or 9.04
[06:02] <erikk71usa> an it cant be fixed
[06:02] <Dravekx> why is it, that everytime I remove my USB drive.. the letters go up... its now SDE1 when it should be SDC1
[06:02] <RUNINWATER_CPO2> wheres the porn at?
[06:02] <Dravekx> ???
[06:03] <Meowpup> lstarnes: ok then how can i edit what fortuned are in fortunes in terminal
[06:03] <uccadmin> What would be a good way to shutdown a machine if it has been sitting at the GDM login for a certain amount of time? Could this be a job for cron? Or should I go another route?
[06:03] <lstarnes> Nemtaro: some users have had issues with 9.10, but it would likely have better netbook support
[06:03] <Billiard> Dravekx: do you safely remove you drive when you remove it?
[06:03] <Nemtaro> ok, but 9.1 is unable to partition my 8gb disk, it's not that bloody complicated to partition a disk
[06:03] <lstarnes> Meowpup: do you know how to edit text files?
[06:03] <bazhang> RUNINWATER_CPO2, that is not appropriate for here, please desist
[06:03] <lstarnes> Nemtaro: try 9.04
[06:03] <Nemtaro> ok, thanks
[06:03] <Dravekx> Billiard, no. I just remove it... its a USB flash drive.
[06:03] <Billiard> Dravekx: you should safely remove it, thats probably the prob
[06:04] <jonz> uccadmin: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-shutdown-command-and-logfile.html
[06:04] <rhorse> Dravekx: prolly need to clean up your fstab
[06:04] <Dravekx> Billiard, how do you unmount?
[06:04] <Dravekx> rhorse, k :)
[06:04] <Nautilus> Ascavasaion: you might look at what the Windows net command tells ya.  I think theres a net map or something in there
[06:04] <Billiard> Dravekx: you can right click it and click unmount, on the desktop
[06:04] <jonz> uccadmin: (that's if you'll end up putting it in cron)
[06:04] <Blue1> Dravekx: sudo umount /dev/<devicenamegoeshere>
[06:04] <Ascavasaion> Nautilus: Can only map it once you can see it.
[06:05] <deadABuser> why is it by default Nautilus asks for password to mount a partition, yet if you run K3B (same user) you can mount the same partition through browsing for an iso to burn
[06:05] <Dravekx> Billiard, Im SSH ubuntu server.
[06:05] <Nautilus> Ascavasaion: yea, just another way to see if you can see it, i guess.
[06:05] <uccadmin> jonz: Yes, I know the command to shut down. I'm trying to figure out what is the best method for the system to determine WHEN to shut down. I need to be able to track idle time at login or something of the sort
[06:05] <legend2440> Meowpup: http://www.thelinuxlink.net/l4c/programs.html
[06:06] <Billiard> deadABuser: its already mounted so you can browse to it probably
[06:06] <Dravekx> Thanks guys/girls/fellow ubuntu people :)
[06:06] <Billiard> Dravekx: ok, how did you mount it?
[06:06] <Billiard> Dravekx: nvm u have a solution i guess
[06:06] <Dravekx> Billiard, I used mount
[06:06] <jbuncher> erikk71usa, why do you say it can't be fixed?
[06:06] <Dravekx> but I tried unmount, and it said "bad command"
[06:07] <Dravekx> umount?
[06:07] <Billiard> Dravekx: its umount, yeah you should unmount them before you pull it out
[06:07] <deadABuser> Billiard: no. its unmounted. Nautilus asks for pas, then go into K3B and it doesn't
[06:07] <Dravekx> cool, thanks :)
[06:07] <deadABuser> Same with unmounting.
[06:08] <erikk71usa> for newbies it cant
[06:08] <Billiard> there is a grace period when you type in your password it wont ask again for 10 minutes or something
[06:08] <Billiard> deadABuser: ^^
[06:08] <Meowpup> thanks legend2440
[06:08] <legend2440> Meowpup: your welcome
[06:09] <deadABuser> no. its not that I'm sure of it
[06:09] <Billiard> deadABuser: do you have to type a pass to start k3b?
[06:09] <erikk71usa> for a newbie that issue they cant fix
[06:09] <deadABuser> Billiard: no
[06:09] <jbuncher> erikk71usa, not to oversimplify the issue, but using that logic *nothing* works for newbies then, if it's at all different than what they did before.  This link may or may not help, but I suggest you try it, as it may fix your issue http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2009/11/are-your-graphics-dead-in-ubun.html    That's why we have places like this, so the newbies can get help fixing issues they wouldn't normally know how to.
[06:09] <deadABuser> its running under me
[06:09] <glej26> hi
[06:10] <glej26> Does anyone know what is going to be included in Lycid Lynx?
[06:10] <lstarnes> glej26: it is probably too early to tell
[06:10] <jbuncher> glej26, kernel, likely a couple of programs and desktop environments.  ANything specific you're looking for? :)
[06:10] <Billiard> glej26: firefox, gnome probably lol
[06:10] <glej26> ok
[06:11] <glej26> not really
[06:11] <glej26> I was just wondering
[06:11] <glej26> 9.10 is amazin
[06:11] <Silent_Echo> what does irc stand for?
[06:11] <jbuncher> Silent_Echo, Internet Relay Chat
[06:11] <python_root> glej26: i Guess stability and lots of bug fixes
[06:11] <Billiard> Silent_Echo: internet relay chat
[06:11] <Silent_Echo> kk thx
[06:13] <erikk71usa> ill try it
[06:14] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey?
[06:14] <jeff__> does anyone have experience with libinfinity or infinote?
[06:14] <python_root> !floodbot
[06:14] <ZaNeIuM> how do i get to gparted on the live ubuntu cd
[06:15] <caturday> ZaNeIuM,  you can use apt-get on live cd
[06:15] <python_root> caturday: how ?
[06:15] <Billiard> ZaNeIuM: i think its already on the live cd by default
[06:15] <d9500> ZaNeIuM, it should already be on live cd. system > administration > partition editor
[06:16] <jbuncher> ZaNeIuM, open a terminal, apt-get install gparted, unless it's already in system-> administration -> partition editor
[06:16] <caturday> python_root, I installed thing while in livecd , Just lose it after reboot
[06:16] <python_root> if i wanteted softwares from live cd to my system how od i
[06:16] <m4t> anyone getting real digital dts 5.1 audio from a dvd, through totem?
[06:18] <Dravekx> is there a program via ssh to make directory/file copy/move easier?
[06:18] <kermit> Dravekx: scp
[06:18] <Nautilus> filezilla?
[06:18] <lstarnes> Dravekx: scp can copy files across ssh
[06:18] <Nautilus> that too
[06:19] <Dravekx> Nautilus, filezilla can move directories?
[06:19] <Nautilus> Dravekx: oh, not sure, maybe it'd make a copy out of it
[06:20] <Nautilus> just a  secure ftp
[06:20] <billybigrigger> anyone here familiar with gksu and bash scripting?
[06:20] <Nautilus> via gui
[06:20] <meatbun> what is ubuntu japanese channel name?
[06:20] <billybigrigger> Billiard, i can't for the life of me get gksu to not recognize that -c command
[06:20] <Dravekx> Nautilus, no gui. ubuntu server 9.10
[06:20] <mikey> i need the flash player for my running system
[06:20] <Nautilus> Dravekx: scp was lstarnes idea
[06:21] <Billiard> billybigrigger: did you try what i suggested?
[06:21] <rhorse> !jp
[06:21] <dno> Does anyone know of mount cifs issues in 9.10?
[06:21] <Billiard> dno: i know of no issues
[06:21] <newuser_> few days ago there was a guy asking on how to install karmic on and eeepc 1101HA, is he here still??
[06:21] <Grunge> any suggestions for my problems?
[06:22] <mikey> does any one know how to install flash player for ubuntu
[06:22] <billybigrigger> gksu -i does nothing
[06:22] <dno> Billiard: Are you familiar enough with the process to help me?
[06:22] <Grunge> ubuntu is very laggy while playing moves that stream and also gnome irc has trouble accedpting files
[06:22] <Billiard> dno: which process?
[06:22] <lstarnes> !flash | mikey
[06:22] <Billiard> billybigrigger: run it in a terminal, it does absolutely nothing?
[06:22] <lstarnes> Grunge: are you using a router?
[06:23] <billybigrigger> Billiard, when i run gksu -i 'command' it pops open the gksu dialog window with a run dialog
[06:23] <Grunge> of course
[06:23] <lstarnes> Grunge: that explains it
[06:23] <Grunge> lol seriously?
[06:23] <lstarnes> Grunge: DCC is tricky to use behind a router or anything else that uses NAT
[06:23] <billybigrigger> Billiard, and it still complains about the -c option
[06:23] <Billiard> billybigrigger: ok gksu -i is different from sudo -i i guess
[06:23] <billybigrigger> which is clearly after the stunnel command
[06:23] <billybigrigger> i don't get it
[06:23] <Grunge> windows didn't give me these problems before
[06:23] <Billiard> show me the command you used
[06:23] <Billiard> with -i
[06:24] <lstarnes> Grunge: you could try setting the client to use specific ports for DCC and open those ports in your router
[06:24] <billybigrigger> Usage: gksu [-u <user>] [options] <command>
[06:24] <jasonmchristos> does anyone use empathy, they tout that it is better than pidgin because it can do audio and video but the option is always greyed out for me
[06:24] <lstarnes> Grunge: if the sender is using a router, that may also cause issues
[06:24] <billybigrigger> do i HAVE to specify a user?
[06:24] <Grunge> all my ports are open
[06:24] <lstarnes> billybigrigger: no
[06:24] <Billiard> billybigrigger: no
[06:24] <billybigrigger> didn't think so
[06:24] <lstarnes> billybigrigger: it's in square brackets, so it is optional
[06:24] <Nautilus> the []'s mean optional
[06:24] <Billiard> billybigrigger: show me the command you use with gksu -i
[06:24] <dno> Billiard: udo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.184/wbackup /media/wnetgear -o username=xxx,password=xxxx,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[06:24] <Billiard> dno: whats the error?
[06:24] <billybigrigger> gksu -i stunnel -c -d nntp -r ssl-us.astraweb.com:443 && echo success || echo fail
[06:24] <Grunge> it doesn't give me an option it just says someone is trying to send a file
[06:25] <Grunge> doesn't allow me to accept swith this client
[06:25] <Billiard> billybigrigger: i said put it in single quotes
[06:25] <codeyman> anybody knows how to get logitech wireless dj work on ubuntu?
[06:25] <dno> Billiard:mount error(13): Permission denied
[06:25] <lstarnes> Grunge: try using a different client, like xchat
[06:25] <dno> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[06:25] <billybigrigger> success is printed on the screen, but i still get the garbage text complaining about -c
[06:25] <Billiard> dno: use sudo mount
[06:25] <dno> Billiard:sorry I just didn't paste it.
[06:25] <billybigrigger> Billiard, putting the command in single quotes opens the gksu run dialog window
[06:25] <Grunge> i am using xchat
[06:26] <Billiard> billybigrigger: show me what you typed
[06:26] <billybigrigger> gksu -i 'stunnel -c -d nntp -r ssl-us.astraweb.com:443 && echo success || echo fail'
[06:26] <Grunge> i can send files but i can't recive them
[06:26] <Billiard> dno: shouldnt matter but try mount.cifs instead of mount -t cifs
[06:26] <billybigrigger> so if the stunnel command exits with status 0 (clean exit) then it prints success, else it will print fail
[06:26] <Dravekx> what command MOVES a directory and all its sub content? MV?
[06:26] <ubuntuuser> Hi, I am trying to get to the grub menu. It straightaway goes through to the ubuntu system
[06:26] <ubuntuuser> how can i do that?
[06:26] <lstarnes> Dravekx: nv
[06:26] <billybigrigger> Dravekx, mv -r
[06:26] <lstarnes> Dravekx: er, mv
[06:27] <billybigrigger> Dravekx, -r for recursive to move all sub-folders aswell
[06:27] <lstarnes> Dravekx: mv moves a directory and its contents with no extra options needed
[06:27] <Meowpup> anyone use screenlets oi need help
[06:27] <lstarnes> billybigrigger: that is not necessary
[06:27] <Billiard> billybigrigger: i dont think there is a mv -r
[06:27] <billybigrigger> i'm thinking of cp then :P
[06:27] <lstarnes> Dravekx: but cp needs the -r flag (cp -r)
[06:27] <codeyman> ubuntu9.10+logitech wireless dj anyone?
[06:27] <mikey> wtf i cant play any games or watch any movies or videos
[06:27] <Grunge> welcome to linux based software m
[06:28] <billybigrigger> what else can i do with this gksu command?
[06:28] <dno> Billiard: When I try via Nautilus it keeps giving me a passowrd prompt.  over and over.
[06:28] <Billiard> mikey: install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package then you should be able to watch all your movies
[06:28] <ubuntuuser> Hi all, I want to get to the grub menu at the start.  How do I do that?
[06:28] <Billiard> dno: hmmm
[06:28] <Grunge> mikey
[06:28] <rhorse> mikey: what have you done so far to advance your problem to it's resolution?
[06:28] <Billiard> dno: via nautilus? what do you mean
[06:28] <mikey> billard wat you mean how do i get them i juust started
[06:28] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey????????
[06:28] <schwezzy> after upgrading to 9.10, my login screen shows a username which I click to enter my password. I'd like to switch it (back) to require the username/password to by typed in, looking through the various login screen options I do not see a way to do this
[06:28] <Billiard> mikey: goto the package manager, install the package i said
[06:28] <dno> Billiard: My other box with 8.10 connects and even winbloze.  But 9.10
[06:29] <Meowpup> anyone use screenlets oi need help
[06:29] <codeyman> schwezzy: you can still type the username
[06:30] <schwezzy> I know I can still type it, I don't want it to show a username at all
[06:30] <Dravekx> I keep trying to copy a directory from my USB to my var/www dir....
[06:30] <Grunge> hey billiard which package?
[06:30] <jasonmchristos> about rhythmbox the DAAP sharing works great is there similar software for movies instead of audio
[06:30] <dno> Billiard: Well, I go to my network, see the share double click on the folder and get the password prompt.
[06:30] <Lust> schwezzy, I dont think theres an easy way around that... the developers have made it that way because they want to make good on their promise on faster bootup for 9.10
[06:30] <Dravekx> it keeps giving me the error " cp:omitting directory"
[06:30] <rhorse> mikey is a troll - he pulls this stunt every so often; plays a clueless noob. Just ignore him.
[06:30] <Billiard> Grunge: ubuntu-restricted-extras  ?
[06:30] <lstarnes> Dravekx: cp -r
[06:30] <lstarnes> Dravekx: not just cp
[06:30] <Dravekx> oh ok :)
[06:30] <schwezzy> Lust: I don't see how the login screen has anything to do with boot time
[06:31] <jasonmchristos> vlc needs a lot of settings tweaking, is there something that will do it like rhythmbox just click share music but movies instead
[06:31] <dno> Billiard: Any thoughts?
[06:31] <Billiard> dno: try it in a terminal
[06:31] <Lust> schwezzy: give me a sec
[06:31] <schwezzy> ok, thanks
[06:31] <mikey> i am not a troll what the hell r you tlking botu
[06:31] <tgraupmann> Heck if I can get on the WEP network with ubuntu using USB WN121T
[06:31] <mikey> about
[06:31] <Fut> Im working with Apache2 restarting it. When I restart, it seems like it goes through my basic index.html syntax and gives me errors.
[06:32] <Grunge> under add remove Billiard?
[06:32] <rhorse> mikey: your gig is up; we know who you are
[06:32] <Fut> Does anyone know how to turn that off?
[06:32] <tgraupmann> Using NDIS but it doesn't work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=537281
[06:32] <Billiard> Grunge: for what?
[06:32] <grendal-prime> im done with God
[06:32] <rhorse> mikey get a new act
[06:32] <grendal-prime> oops  i thought i just thought that..
[06:32] <dno> Billiard: Terminal gives me the mount error(13): Permission denied
[06:32] <dno>  Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs).  Nautilus just keeps popping up the password box.
[06:32] <Grunge> trouble with most flash movies they lag horrible
[06:32] <Grunge> on windows it works fine
[06:32] <scottyg> hi i used to see my user name in the panel when i was working...now it is gone.  how do i get it back?
[06:33] <Grunge> on ubuntu it keeps freezeing up or being very choppy
[06:33] <mikey> who the fuck am i then i am a puzzled person who knows shit about this opperating system my buddy put on my box
[06:33] <lstarnes> Grunge: have you tried viewing them without compiz?
[06:33] <grendal-prime> i never have probs with flash on my linux apps...and i can grab them and keep them
[06:33] <Grunge> compiz?
[06:33] <Billiard> dno: mount.cifs //192.168.1.184/wbackup /media/wnetgear -o username=xxx,password=xxxx,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[06:33] <lstarnes> Grunge: the special visual effects
[06:33] <Billiard> dno: try it without the charset and mode options, just to see if thats the prob
[06:33] <dno> Billiard: put sudo in front of that?
[06:33] <scottyg>  hi i used to see my user name in the panel when i was working...now it is gone.  how do i get it back?
[06:33] <Grunge> for normal computeing
[06:33] <jasonmchristos> traveller: avoid NDIS get a new card
[06:33] <Grunge> yea disabled it
[06:34] <Grunge> keeping it plain
[06:34] <Lust> schwezzy: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294929
[06:34] <Billiard> Grunge: did you install restricted extras   or flashplugin-nonfree
[06:34] <Billiard> dno: shouldnt need it i dont think
[06:34] <scottyg>  hi i used to see my user name in the panel when i was working...now it is gone.  how do i get it back?
[06:34] <uccadmin> Asking again just to see: Does anyone know if it is possible to have a system shut down after a certain amount of idle time at the gdm login? I was thinking of using cron, but that might not be able to do what I want
[06:34] <Billiard> dno: but you can try
[06:34] <jasonmchristos> Billiard: i installed nonfree whats the diff?
[06:34] <scottyg> it was a big menu
[06:34] <Grunge> flash plugin
[06:34] <dno> Billiard: ok
[06:34] <Madpilot> scottyg, you removed the user-switch applet, probably
[06:35] <scottyg> when i clicked on it i had options
[06:35] <uccadmin> scottyg: Is your account the only one on the system? What happens now that didn't before?
[06:35] <Grunge> firefox opted fo which one i want
[06:35] <scottyg> 5 accounts
[06:35] <Billiard> jasonmchristos: it should be better, idk why they have more than one they like to have all the completly free stuff separate
[06:35] <scottyg> how do i get the applet back on the panel?
[06:35] <jbuncher> scotty : maybe you need the user indicator applet?
[06:35] <Madpilot> scott9876, right-click on your panel, choose "Add to Panel" then scroll down to User Switcher
[06:35] <Billiard> Grunge: try flashplug-nonfree   install it from the package manager
[06:36] <superpaco> hello
[06:36] <Grunge> under add remove apps?
[06:36] <dno> Billiard: no same error. But you know what.  If I take the password off the folder from the nas it works?  What does that mean?
[06:36] <Fut> Getting these errors. Anyone know how to turn off this syntax checker?
[06:36] <Fut> apache2: Syntax error on line 236 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 12 of /home/fut/www/index.html: Expected </body> but saw </html>
[06:36] <dno> Billiard: Some kind of permission.
[06:36] <Fut> I want to turn off that html syntax checker.
[06:36] <rayner> Restaurant city does not work on facebook... I have just started it and there is no option appearing after I make my character, using Karmic, flash installed from Ubuntu software centre
[06:36] <lstarnes> Fut: do you have </body> in there?
[06:36] <Billiard> dno: does the password have any funny characters?
[06:37] <Fut> Yes!
[06:37] <Madpilot> Fut, why not fix that error instead? simple fix...
[06:37] <superpaco> any one can tell me how to switch on my WNIC from driver: wl to driver:43??
[06:37] <Fut> It's annoying. Old Apache didn't have that feature.
[06:37] <lstarnes> Fut: you could try asking in #httpd
[06:37] <superpaco> hello
[06:37] <Fut> Madpilot, thing is, i did fix it
[06:37] <Fut> k
[06:37] <superpaco> any support here??
[06:37] <jasonmchristos> no suggestions on movie streaming? similar to rhythmoboxs DAAP
[06:37] <banister`garden> hey guys, how do i edit a pdf file? (not just view one)
[06:37] <dno> Billiard: no, letters and numbers
[06:37] <lstarnes> superpaco: what dyou you need help with?
[06:37] <lstarnes> *do
[06:38] <rayner> Restaurant city does not work on facebook... I have just started it and there is no option appearing after I make my character, using Karmic, flash installed from Ubuntu software centre
[06:38] <superpaco> my wireless card has the driver: wl
[06:38] <superpaco> and I need the driver:43
[06:38] <superpaco> can you help me
[06:39] <lstarnes> superpaco: what model card is it?
[06:39] <Grunge> Billiard,  nothing at all showed up when i went through synaptic package manager
[06:39] <Grunge> searched for it and nothing
[06:39] <superpaco> BCM4311
[06:39] <superpaco> broadcome
[06:39] <dno> Billiard: any thoughts?
[06:39] <lstarnes> !broadcom | superpaco
[06:39] <Billiard> Grunge: search without the dashes, also you may have to check the multiverse and universe in the sources list
[06:39] <rayner> can anyone help me
[06:40] <lstarnes> superpaco: that page from ubottu might be useful
[06:40] <Billiard> dno: idk, thats odd, i havent had any issues
[06:40] <Grunge> same thing Billiard
[06:40] <Grunge> zip
[06:40] <dno> Billiard: could it be samba?
[06:40] <Billiard> dno: but you said windows and jaunty can access it?
[06:41] <Billiard> Grunge: in your sources list you have multiverse and universe checked?
[06:41] <superpaco> thanks
[06:41] <dno> Billiard: Yes, from other computers.  But what about my smb.conf file?
[06:41] <ralchev> hey guys I have a problem
[06:41] <Billiard> dno: the smb.conf is for hosting shares not connecting
[06:41] <mikey> can someone tell me what the hell a troll is
[06:41] <dno> Billiard:oh
[06:42] <lstarnes> mikey: it's someone who intentionally disrupts an online community
[06:42] <dno> Billiard: is there a way to see what is happening in some log file somewhere?
[06:42] <sontek> mikey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll
[06:42] <Billiard> dno: i dont think there would be a log for this one command
[06:42] <ralchev> yesterday I installed ubuntu 9.10, but I have no sound :S and there are no hardware devices in System > Preferences > Sound ... any ideas?
[06:42] <kermit> mikey: someone who isnt after content, just getting a response.
[06:43] <rhorse> mikey sound familiar?
[06:43] <Billiard> dno: the same exact command works in jaunty?
[06:43] <mikey> well some ass was calling me a troll on here and i am not a troll
[06:43] <majuk> lol
[06:43] <default> hello
[06:43] <Grunge> Billiard, unsure of what your asking
[06:43] <mikey> shut up rhorse
[06:43] <Billiard> mikey: you sounded like one
[06:43] <default> i need help how to use X - chat ...
[06:43] <banister`garden> hey guys, how do i edit a pdf file? (not just view one) ????????????? :D
[06:43] <mikey> sorry i sounded like one
[06:43] <lstarnes> rhorse: just ignore him. If he really is a troll, then your attention, even if it is negative, is pleasing to him
[06:43] <default> just basic .... anyone , help?
[06:44] <dno> Billiard: No, in Hardy!  8.04 LTS
[06:44] <Billiard> dno: well hardy... same command works?
[06:44] <mikey> i am not a troll
[06:44] <default> is X - irc the best way to communicate in IRC networks?
[06:44] <mikey> holy shit
[06:44] <lstarnes> default: do you have xchat installed already?
[06:44] <rhorse> lstarnes: right
[06:44] <schwezzy> Lust: thanks for the link, I'm having some issues with the process outlined there but it's a start
[06:44] <majuk> banister`garden! I don't think you can. You can export to PDF with OpenOffice, but you can't edit existing PDF files.
[06:44] <mikey> i have no clue what ubuntu is
[06:44] <lstarnes> default: xchat is the most popular client for linux systems
[06:44] <ralchev> well can someone help me with the sound device problem?
[06:44] <Billiard> mikey: you are a troll then
[06:44] <mikey> i just installed it on my computer
[06:44] <Grunge> Billiard, how do i check what is checked because it's not showing
[06:44] <dno> Billiard: Yes, same command works and have it in fstab so it auto mounts in Hardy!  8.04 LTS
[06:45] <lstarnes> mikey: in that case, you might want to look for a windows recovery disk or bug a new copy of windows
[06:45] <Madpilot> mikey, you managed to install it without knowing what it was?
[06:45] <mikey> my buuddy gave me the disk and now i am puzzled
[06:45] <Billiard> Grunge: one sec ill see exactly where it is
[06:45] <Lust> schwezzy: yup...took me quite a while too...gl
[06:45] <bluntman225> Im haveing a very troubleing time getting internet sharing to work in ubutunu
[06:45] <sandie> hello all
[06:45] <Billiard> dno: idk, sorry
[06:45] <bluntman225> i want to share my wireless card's connection via a crossover ethernet cable
[06:45] <Lust> schwezzy: mmm ardchoille should be able to help if hes not busy
[06:45] <venger> what is proper syntax usage of grub2 search (this is find replacement no?)
[06:46] <uccadmin> Anyone? Ways to shut down after an idle period at GDM login?
[06:46] <dno> Billiard: Ok, thanks for trying
[06:46] <superpaco> how can I install the b43-fwcutter??
[06:46] <mikey> he said it would fix my wireless internet problems and guess what it didnt
[06:46] <ardchoille> schwezzy: What's the issue?
[06:46] <superpaco> is it via apt-get??
[06:46] <superpaco> lstarnet u there??
[06:46] <lstarnes> superpaco: try sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter in a terminal
[06:46] <Billiard> Grunge: open package manager choose Settings>Repositories    check (multiverse)  and (universe)   ok, then hit reload
[06:46] <superpaco> thanks :D
[06:47] <schwezzy> Lust: ardchoille: when I tried the command 'sudo -u gdm gnome-control-center' it gave the error "could not open display" so I'm looking at that now
[06:47] <i_is_broke> uccadmin, have you tried ctrl+alt+delete?
[06:47] <mikey> so how is being a troll and needing help hhave anything in common
[06:47] <lstarnes> mikey: just ignore that person who called you that
[06:47] <superpaco> it worked thanks a lot lstarner
[06:47] <mikey> thanks
[06:47] <uccadmin> i_is_broke: How would that help me? I'm looking for the system to auto-shutdown after idle for x minutes at gdm.
[06:48] <Wiltolrich> does someone have a wireless problem?
[06:48] <superpaco> lstarnes you are the best :D
[06:48] <ardchoille> schwezzy: are  you trying to run gnome-control-center as root?
[06:48] <i_is_broke> uccadmin, sorry didnt catch that part...
[06:48] <Wiltolrich> what is the problem?
[06:48] <uccadmin> In Jaunty, I accomplished this by having a dummy account that simply executed a shutdown command when logged into
[06:48] <uccadmin> And I had the system auto-login to that account after x minutes
[06:48] <schwezzy> ardchoille: no, and I'm entering said command at the tty prompt, in attempt to modify the login screen
[06:48] <ralchev> guys here is a screenshot of my problem http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1548/screenshotsoundpreferen.png
[06:48] <Lust> schwezzy: sry...i'm kinda in the middle of something ardchoille i'll leave this to you, hes messing around with his login
[06:49] <ardchoille> Lust: Thank you :)
[06:49] <rayner> Restaurant city does not work on facebook... I have just started it and there is no option appearing after I make my character, using Karmic, flash installed from Ubuntu software centre
[06:49] <Wiltolrich> Does someone have a wireless problem
[06:49] <uccadmin> However, with the new GDM, I don't want to do this because I don't want the user to be displayed/usable by everyone who uses the system
[06:49] <ardchoille> schwezzy: why are you entering this command into a tty? does xorg not work?
[06:49] <Billiard> rayner: flashplugin-nonfree  ?
[06:49] <rajab> does any1 have luck with non SSE CPU (athlon 1.3) working with any nvidia driver flawlessly? its slow on the 96.xxx.xxx driver and anything above that will not let me opelgl work .
[06:49] <Madpilot> rayner, does it work on other non-Ubuntu machines, or is it just another buggy Facebook app?
[06:49] <rayner> Billiard: yes
[06:49] <Meowpup> anyone know where the fortune app file is not /usr/share/games/fortune
[06:50] <ralchev> i need ur help :S
[06:50] <rayner> Billiard: It does
[06:50] <xangua> rayner: are you using a 64 bits OS ¿
[06:50] <lstarnes> Meowpup: /usr/share/games/fortunes/ contains its files
[06:50] <Billiard> Meowpup: type      which fortune
[06:50] <rayner> xangua: 32 bit
[06:50] <lstarnes> Meowpup: the actual executable for it is /usr/games/fortune
[06:50] <mikey> wow whoever helped me with my flashplayer issue thanks a bunch
[06:50] <al_> hey all
[06:50] <coolchris> hello
[06:51] <coolchris> i want to be a hacker and i have heard that linux is a good hacking os so i just installed ubuntu
[06:51] <coolchris> does anyone know any good hacking commands?
[06:51] <schwezzy> ardchoille: the howto I'm reading instructs me to do so, http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[06:51] <ralchev> yesterday I installed ubuntu 9.10, but I have no sound :S and there are no hardware devices in System > Preferences > Sound ... any ideas?
[06:51] <xangua> rayner: do you use firefox¿ maybe some addon is interfering
[06:51] <majuk> coolchris! ROFL
[06:51] <al_> anyone here any good with testdisk?
[06:51] <Meowpup> o i c i get it
[06:51] <underdog7> does anybody know of a website that allows you to post text (e.g. debugging text) and then refer people to an address so they can see what you've posted -- i used to have one of these sites, but i forget it now
[06:51] <Lust> coolchris, LMFAO
[06:51] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | underdog7
[06:52] <schwezzy> underdog7: pastebin.com
[06:52] <ralchev> underdog7, pastebin
[06:52] <rayner> xangua: Yes I do, Also my friend can play the game on his account properly on my computer
[06:52] <Grunge> Billiard, it doesn't show that option
[06:52] <schwezzy> heh
[06:52] <majuk> underdog7! wgetpaste
[06:52] <Grunge> Repositories    check (multiverse)  and (universe)
[06:52] <coolchris> what is so funny? i heard that linux is better then windows for hacking peoples boxes?
[06:52] <darthanubis> I had dual screen going and the second screen was a lcd tv to watch a movie with totem. After the movie stopped, my GF just disconnected the laptop from the screen. Now I can't connect them both without X just going black and frozen. Is there a state eg. foo.pid somewhere that was saved dirty that I need to remove to get the dual screen functional once again?
[06:52] <Billiard> Grunge: please be more specific! which option
[06:52] <lstarnes> coolchris: you mean cracking, not hacking
[06:52] <underdog7> schwezzy: u da man!
[06:52] <Billiard> Grunge: did you open settings repositories ?
[06:52] <coolchris> well if u want to call it cracking
[06:52] <ralchev> so nobody knows whats the problem with the sound on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[06:52] <majuk> underdog7! You run a command and pipe the output to wgetpaste. It returns an internet address with the text information that you can give to others.
[06:53] <coolchris> so i heard linux is very good for cracking is it true? anyone know any good commands to get started?
[06:53] <ardchoille> schwezzy: That tutorial is confusing, stop what you are doing and tell me what you are trying to accomplish
[06:53] <zaoul1> coolchris: srsly?
[06:53] <ardchoille> schwezzy: Are you trying to edit the login screen via the login screen manager?
[06:53] <Grunge> yes i did Billiard
[06:53] <schwezzy> ardchoille: what I'm trying to accomplish is to remove the username from the login screen so a person will have to type in the username/pass
[06:53] <Billiard> Grunge: ok on the ubuntu software tab
[06:53] <underdog7> majuk: cool, thanks man!
[06:54] <coolchris> yea i need to know some good commmands i heard like ping could be good with the right options?
[06:54] <Billiard> Grunge: check all the boxes
[06:54] <Billiard> Grunge: but not the cd unless you want it
[06:54] <Grunge> they allready are
[06:54] <zaoul1> coolchris: you should prob change your nick
[06:54] <Billiard> Grunge: ok hit ok
[06:54] <Billiard> Grunge: hit reload in the top left
[06:54] <Grunge> did
[06:54] <ardchoille> schwezzy: Good luck, I tried to fix that but couldn't. If you figure out how to fix it, please let me know.
[06:54] <Billiard> Grunge: search for "flashplugin"
[06:55] <majuk> underdog7! My bad, the package is called pastebinit in aptitude
[06:55] <uccadmin> schwezzy: I assume you are looking to remove just a single username, yes? If you can make it work, that would also solve my problem
[06:55] <majuk> underdog7! I've used Gentoo too long.
[06:55] <coolchris> i used to hack with back orifice back in the day im thinking about moving on to linux hacking programs now
[06:55] <superpaco> hello
[06:55] <underdog7> majuk: haha cool thx man
[06:56] <schwezzy> ardchoille: heh alright, thanks
[06:56] <quizme> i tried to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 but got this error: http://pastie.org/700639
[06:56] <quizme> anybody know how to get over that hump ?
[06:56] <superpaco> ls... are you gone
[06:56] <cutout> when I start my computer I get list of menus to load and when I select one it gives a cmd with the word grub! how can I start my ubuntu?
[06:56] <lstarnes> superpaco: I am here
[06:56] <superpaco> I did all
[06:56] <coolchris> cutout ur bootloader is messed up and u have to reinstall
[06:56] <lstarnes> superpaco: try typing ls then pressing your tab key
[06:56] <underdog7> is anyone familiar with wordpress?
[06:57] <superpaco> ok
[06:57] <schwezzy> uccadmin: not so much remove a username, but remove the usernames altogether from the login screen
[06:57] <majuk> underdog7! I've setup/admined a few sites. PM me
[06:57] <underdog7> sweeet
[06:57] <cutout> coolchris: I just want to recover some things!
[06:57] <superpaco> superpaco@superpaco-laptop:~$ ls
[06:57] <superpaco> ls           lsb_release  lshw         lsof         lspcmcia     lsusb
[06:57] <superpaco> lsattr       lshal        lsmod        lspci        lss16toppm
[06:57] <RLZIII> I've used USB-Installer-U910 to set up a Ubuntu 9.10 LiveUSB.  When I boot, I only get the option to "Run Ubuntu Persistently".  Is there also a way to run Ubuntu via USB non-persistently?  Maybe adding an option to the text.cfg file?
[06:57] <insm0d> I'm getting an error with wodim. "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error" along with several other lines.  I can post more info upon request
[06:57] <Billiard> cutout: you probably dont have to reinstall, you could repair the bootloader using a live cd
[06:57] <Jordan_U> quizme: Try archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.canonical.com
[06:57] <superpaco> I got that
[06:57] <Madpilot> ubottu, grub |  cutout
[06:57] <FloodBot2> superpaco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:57] <aneesh1> HI all, Can i take backup of my os completely ?. I mean as a cd or dvd image  that can be used to boot to another system?..
[06:57] <lstarnes> superpaco: not in the terminal
[06:57] <uccadmin> schwezzy: have you tried sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list 'true' ?
[06:57] <zaoul1> coolchris: 1. backorfice is not hacking 2. get real, your in a support chan with 1500 people and your asking about hacking... are you serious?
[06:57] <lstarnes> superpaco: in your irc program
[06:57] <superpaco> hoo ok
[06:57] <superpaco> sorry
[06:57] <ardchoille> schwezzy: I think I found something
[06:57] <quizme> jordan_u thanks, how do i change that ?  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:57] <zaoul1> coolchris: that's like asking the cops where to get the best herb
[06:57] <ardchoille> schwezzy: Wanna try it?
[06:58] <Grunge> Billiard,  zero on the results on it
[06:58] <cutout> thanks
[06:58] <Grunge> Billiard,  nothing for flash-plug or flashplugin
[06:58] <Jordan_U> quizme: That or System > Administration > Software Sources
[06:58] <Madpilot> zaoul1, the answer to 'best herb' is usually 'in our evidence locker' - but I'm being off-topic... :)
[06:58] <schwezzy> ardchoille: sure, and did you see uccadmin's suggestion?
[06:58] <superpaco> lstarnes, I did what the page said
[06:58] <coolchris> zaoull: the cops can't find me cause the net is anonymous
[06:58] <superpaco> now how do I know if it worked??
[06:58] <zaoul1> HAHAHAHHA
[06:58] <uccadmin> schwezzy: As far as I know, that command will allow you to remove the user list. Doesn't quite accomplish what I want, since I'd like particular users to be excluded, which you can't do anymore
[06:58] <ardchoille> schwezzy: log back into your normal gnome desktop and open a terminal
[06:58] <zaoul1> oh man
[06:59] <zaoul1> that was the best
[06:59] <uccadmin> schwezzy: Though, i do assume you are on Karmic
[06:59] <zaoul1> im keeping that one
[06:59] <FloodBot2> zaoul1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <Madpilot> coolchris, wrong. Very wrong.
[06:59] <lstarnes> coolchris: if you've ever heard of the NSA, you would know that it isn't
[06:59] <Billiard> Grunge: open a terminal
[06:59] <schwezzy> ardchoille: alright done
[06:59] <quizme> jordan_u I don't see software sources as an option
[06:59]  * zaoul1 Carnivore Activated **
[06:59] <Madpilot> coolchris, now please go away, you're not a very successful troll.
[06:59] <zaoul1> luls
[06:59] <Billiard> Grunge: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:59] <ardchoille> schwezzy: run this command in a terminal:  gksudo gconf-editor
[06:59] <coolchris> madpilot: how did u know i was trolling and not being serious?
[06:59] <kostkon> quizme, do: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <lstarnes> superpaco: you might need to reboot then see if wireless works
[06:59] <coolchris> madpilot: u get the award for spotting the troll
[06:59] <aneesh1> HI all,   how Can i take backup of my os completely ?.
[07:00] <kostkon> quizme, change the line, save and then do: sudo apt-get update
[07:00] <kostkon> quizme, and then try to upgrade again
[07:00] <uccadmin> aneesh1: You'll probably want to look into partimage
[07:00] <CaneToad> aneesh1, do you have an external backup drive?
[07:00] <quizme> kostkon k thanks trying...
[07:00] <schwezzy> ardchoille: alright the gconf-editor window is open
[07:00] <superpaco> I did
[07:00] <ardchoille> schwezzy: in the gconf-editor, use the tree to browse to /apps/gdm/simple-greeter
[07:00] <superpaco> and wireless is working since before
[07:00] <insm0d> I can't get my cd-burner to work.  I'm getting an error with wodim. "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error" along with several other lines. I can post more info upon request
[07:00] <ardchoille> schwezzy: Is there an entry for "disable_suer_list"?
[07:01] <ardchoille> *user
[07:01] <aneesh1> CaneToad:yes i have . i need to create a disk image of my os . is it possible?..
[07:01] <coolchris> lol i was just messing
[07:01] <superpaco> but I need to have the driver:b43 to make work several applications
[07:01] <CaneToad> aneesh1 yes you can image your install partitions
[07:01] <zaoul1> coolchris: sure you were
[07:01] <lstarnes> superpaco: you could try lsmod | grep b43
[07:01] <schwezzy> ardchoille: yes there is, and that is also the terminal command that uccadmin suggested, <uccadmin> schwezzy: have you tried sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list 'true' ?
[07:01] <zaoul1> coolchris: how's jersey?
[07:01] <uccadmin> aneesh1: I would look into www.partimage.org
[07:01] <Grunge> hey Billiard thanks, but do i need to unistall the other shit i installed?
[07:01] <zaoul1> coolchris: anonmous net
[07:01] <superpaco> let me see
[07:01] <schwezzy> ardchoille: let me log out/in to confirm
[07:01] <uccadmin> schwezzy: It accomplishes the same thing that ardchoille is walking you through
[07:01] <coolchris> lol u sux im not in jersey
[07:02] <ardchoille> schwezzy: ah, yeah, that terminal command would have worked as well. Make that entry true, close the editor, log out and see what happens
[07:02] <schwezzy> uccadmin: yep
[07:02] <lstarnes> superpaco: the module name might be something different though
[07:02] <superpaco> I think it worked
[07:02] <ardchoille> uccadmin: yeah, good job, thanks
[07:02] <superpaco> thanks
[07:02] <superpaco> :d
[07:02] <CaneToad> aneesh1 if you boot from a live cd, you can use the dd command to image your unmounted partitions on your drive onto a file on an external drive [I need to go to dinner so will leave you with that for now]
[07:02] <superpaco> :D
[07:02] <Billiard> Grunge: which? installing flashplugin-nonfree should uninstall other flashplugins
[07:02] <superpaco> like I said you are the best
[07:02] <uccadmin> schwezzy: Be sure to set that key to mandatory
[07:02] <coolchris> oh people
[07:02] <coolchris> ping backup
[07:02] <coolchris> is best for backup partitons
[07:02] <coolchris> ok
[07:02] <uccadmin> Ah, he left
[07:03] <ardchoille> hope he got it
[07:03] <kermit> heh karmic takes longer to install than download, and i'm on SSD and 4GB of RAM
[07:03] <insm0d> aneesh1, yes, use the program: dd.
[07:03] <quizme> kostkon: sorry http://pastie.org/700646  do you know how to unlock it ?
[07:03] <insm0d> superpaco, if you're running karmic, you already have the b43 driver, you just need to install firmware.  Try this out: http://pastebin.com/m7eb6a94c
[07:03] <zaoul1> coolchris: how's vermont?
[07:03] <coolchris> kermit: 4gb of ram is noobish i have 9gb
[07:04] <kostkon> quizme, close synaptic or software center, if oyu have them open
[07:04] <aneesh1> ok
[07:04] <kostkon> quizme, or the update manager
[07:04] <superpaco> no insm0d I have BCM4311
[07:04] <quizme> kostkon.  oh hehe ^^;
[07:04] <superpaco> but thanks insm0d
[07:05] <RLZIII> I've used USB-Installer-U910 to set up a Ubuntu 9.10 LiveUSB.  When I boot, I only get the option to "Run Ubuntu Persistently".  Is there also a way to run Ubuntu via USB non-persistently?  Maybe adding an option to the text.cfg file?
[07:05] <insm0d> superpaco, I have a bcm4311 too and got it working.  That's the guide I wrote to get the firmware installed.
[07:06] <superpaco> hoo sorry
[07:06] <superpaco> how you did it
[07:06] <superpaco> becuase appatently i have it insm0d
[07:06] <insm0d> I can't get my cd-burner to work. I'm getting an error with wodim. "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error" along with several other lines. I can post more info upon request
[07:06] <superpaco> but when I am trying to run airmong-ng
[07:06] <O__o> hi, is there moblin channel on freenode?
[07:06] <superpaco> I still have wl
[07:06] <superpaco> insm0d, no b43
[07:06] <skinnYPuP> For 8x AGP what nvidia chip series has the best support ?
[07:06] <lstarnes> O__o: /join #moblin
[07:07] <quizme> kostkon: still getting that error... W:Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  restricted/binary....
[07:07] <lstarnes> quizme: have you tried using a different mirror?
[07:07] <superpaco> insm0d, let me follow that
[07:07] <Grunge> Billiard, the command fixed the streaming problem but no sound currently. check the volume and the volume on the speakers
[07:07] <Grunge> *checked
[07:08] <skinnYPuP> kostkon, Are you doing a net install ?
[07:08] <schwezzy`> ardchoille: ok something interesting happened, at logout the screen was the same so I rebooted, it started in ttymode, I used startx to get on to gnome and started up irc and a terminal, then the ubuntu boot screen popped up and brought me to the login screen (which still has the userlist)
[07:08] <quizme> lstarnes i changed my sources.list file to use archive.ubuntu.com but it's still hitting archive.canonical ...not sure why
[07:08] <insm0d> superpaco, if you can get your kernel headers installed, you can download the sources for quite a few wireless card drivers from wirelesslinux.org.
[07:08] <Billiard> Grunge: idk
[07:08] <Grunge> lmao
[07:08] <ardchoille> schwezzy: wowsers
[07:09] <superpaco> how do I get the header isntalled??
[07:09] <ardchoille> uccadmin: ^^
[07:09] <aneesh1> insm0d: this is my purpose. I often need to reinstall the systems in our training lab . So i think it would be better to take  a backup (bootable disk image) So that i can boot it in to other system and install it with all s/w .  is it possible in dd?
[07:09] <schwezzy`> ardchoille: please note that I am in this channel twice now, because the other session is still active
[07:10] <superpaco> insm0d,
[07:10] <Wiltolrich> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpwskzpk1OY
[07:10] <superpaco> insm0d,  are have you run aircrack before on that wireless?
[07:11] <O__o> whats ubuntu moblin remix?
[07:11] <O__o> is it out yet?
[07:11] <insm0d> aneesh1, dd will copy the entire hard drive contents bit for bit to a file.  I think the syntax is: dd if=/dev/[harddrive] of=/path/to/file.  To install the image back on the disk, reverse the if and of.  You can do this from any linux distro that can detect your hard drives.  Use a livecd like knoppix or even the ubuntu cd.
[07:11] <quizme> lstarnes i got an even better error now.  http://pastie.org/700646
[07:11] <xangua> ubuntu with moblin interface, no :S
[07:12] <Aciid> if I have "apt-get remove x y z" and z is not found but x and y are, will x and y remove. or does the removal process abort?
[07:12] <linuxghost> people when u got some problem believe on you...be patient you will solve it...ive being bored with upgrade to 9.10 ubuntu bug, now i am happy, solved it
[07:12] <narretgrez> i'm using karmic koala, and my mouse and keyboard stopped working completely at boot up
[07:12] <lstarnes> quizme: try a local mirror
[07:12] <kostkon> quizme, did you modify all the lines that contain archive.canonical.com?
[07:12] <narretgrez> i tried recovery, but that didn't fix it
[07:12] <uccadmin> aneesh1: Looks like you are in a similar situation to me. I only recently automated that process, but I used to use partimage to make the backup and then manually put it back on each machine using a live CD
[07:12] <quizme> kostkon yeah i did
[07:13] <night1ne> Boo.
[07:13] <kostkon> quizme, or yeah, change your server in software sources
[07:13] <lstarnes> Aciid: it should continue
[07:13] <Aciid> ok thanks
[07:13] <quizme> kostkon how do i do that ?
[07:13] <kostkon> quizme, that will modify the sources.list file for you
[07:13] <linuxghost> people when u got some problem believe on you...be patient you will solve it...ive being bored with upgrade to 9.10 ubuntu bug, now i am happy, solved it:-D:-D
[07:13] <fyleow> easyxdcc
[07:13] <kostkon> quizme, in system → admin → software sources
[07:14] <insm0d> superpaco, no I haven't tried running aircrack on my card yet.  If you don't have internet access on the computer with the card, try finding the debian package of the linux-kernel headers used by the linux-wireless sources
[07:14] <aneesh1> insm0d: OK. Can i take incremental backup using dd?
[07:14] <quizme> kostkon I don't have that option... synaptic package manager ?
[07:14] <superpaco> I do have internet
[07:14] <jonz> just curious. does anyone here contribute to any opensource projects?
[07:14] <superpaco> insm0d,
[07:14] <Grunge> so what should i reinstall to fix this problem?
[07:14] <night1ne> Is there anything cool for Karmic that anyone's stumbled upon?
[07:14] <kostkon> quizme, you can access your software sources also in synaptic yeah
[07:14] <insm0d> aneesh1, I don't think so.  There might be a few other tools available that do offer incremental backup.
[07:15] <superpaco> insm0d, I do have internet but I do have a driver that does not allow a lot of applications
[07:15] <kostkon> quizme, in the first tab, it will say "download from"
[07:15] <linuxghost> people when u got some problem believe on you...be patient you will solve it...ive being bored with upgrade to 9.10 ubuntu bug, now i am happy, solved it;-):-[:-D
[07:15] <superpaco> so I need the b43 driver
[07:15] <alankila> jonz: I happen to write code for  VICE and jsidplay2.
[07:15] <aneesh1>  insm0d: could you suggest any one?
[07:15] <insm0d> superpaco, what version of ubuntu are you running
[07:15] <night1ne> I wonder: is linuxghost a ghost?
[07:15] <Cool_AWAY> get bored then install karmic :P
[07:16] <insm0d> sorry aneesh1, I haven't bothered looking for anything else because dd satisfies my very basic needs
[07:16] <uccadmin> aneesh1: Are you looking to do automated backups?
[07:16] <aperson> there is no 'eject' in the context menu for my cd drives when there is a blank cd inserted and the eject button in nautilus does not work, any ideas?  my drives' physical eject buttons seem to be disabled also, I have to resort to using the eject command
[07:16] <superpaco> 9.04
[07:16] <uccadmin> If so, I can kind of describe my setup for imaging
[07:16] <superpaco> insm0d, 9.04
[07:16] <aneesh1>  insm0d: Yes. I would like to write a script for it.
[07:16] <aneesh1> uccadmin:Yes. I would like to write a script for it.
[07:17] <schwezzy`> ardchoille: booted in to tty mode three times in a row now before finally loading the boot/login screen. I think there is something borked with gdm
[07:17] <uccadmin> aneesh1: This might be more complex than you are looking for, but depending on how many machines you need to image you could use clonezilla. How many machines are you working with?
[07:17] <linuxghost> night1ne: im like ghost, i enter secret places without be seen
[07:17] <jonz> alankila: what's VICE?
[07:17] <ardchoille> schwezzy: You might wanna file a bug
[07:17] <aneesh1> uccadmin: 10 to 20
[07:18] <insm0d> okay superpaco: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:19] <echol> Dreamweave
[07:19] <linuxghost> people when u got some problem believe on you...be patient you will solve it...ive being bored with upgrade to 9.10 ubuntu bug, now i am happy, solved it;-):-[:-D
[07:19] <echol> Dreamweaver
[07:19] <insm0d> superpaco, that will install the header files needed by the sources for linux-wireless
[07:19] <uccadmin> aneesh1: I see. And how often do you plan to re-image them? I have 6 machines that get re-imaged nightly
[07:19] <echol> 里面有搞JAVA的吗？
[07:19] <liyingqiao> 为什么compiz在新装的kde下没有效果？
[07:20] <insm0d> superpaco, http://linuxwireless.org/ that site will have everything else you need to build and install the latest b43 driver and firmware
[07:20] <liyingqiao> 我新装了个kde桌面，使用compiz无法开启效果阿
[07:20] <echol> 显卡没装好
[07:20] <Silent_Echo> schwezzy` hey so hows it going with the login thing?
[07:20] <alankila> jonz: a c64 emulator among other things.
[07:20] <aneesh1> uccadmin: Not regularly . By every month
[07:21] <Grunge> Billiards any command to reverse the flash install?
[07:21] <superpaco> I am recieving support from them and they are telling me that I just need to install the b43 driver and remove the wl driver
[07:21] <night1ne> Uh huh..I just saw you :p
[07:21] <insm0d> I can't get my cd-burner to work. I'm getting an error with wodim. "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error" along with several other lines. I can post more info upon request
[07:21] <schwezzy`> Silent_Echo: ran into some other issues so for the time being it's on the shelf
[07:22] <superpaco> insm0d, I have support from there
[07:22] <Silent_Echo> schwezzy` kk well if u find a fix nudge me
[07:22] <Kapace> $ users
[07:22] <Kapace> david david david
[07:22] <superpaco> insm0d, but I need to remove the wl and install the b43
[07:22] <superpaco> insm0d, that is it
[07:22] <Kapace> why i am logged in three times?
[07:22] <uccadmin> aneesh1: In that case, Clonezilla (Basically open-source Norton Ghost) might be overkill. Last question, do all the machines use the same image?
[07:22] <insm0d> superpaco, have you built a b43 module, or are you being guided in that process?
[07:22] <lstarnes> Kapace: check who
[07:23] <superpaco> insm0d, that apt-get command that you gave me is not working
[07:23] <lstarnes> Kapace: terminal sessions count as separate logins
[07:23] <Kapace> ah
[07:23] <lstarnes> Kapace: who and w can list sessions
[07:23] <quizme> lstarnes: how do i try a local mirror.  can you send me your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  I'll just copy and paste it in ?
[07:23] <Kapace> ah
[07:23] <superpaco> insm0d, I build that with the tutorial you gave me
[07:23] <insm0d> superpaco, you need to be connected to the internet for that command to work
[07:23] <aneesh1> uccadmin: No. Every machine has different s/w
[07:23] <Kapace> thanks lstarnes
[07:23] <lstarnes> quizme: it contains things that might not be valid for you
[07:23] <superpaco> insm0d, iam connected now
[07:23] <lstarnes> quizme: you should just be able to edit your existing ones
[07:23] <superpaco> insm0d, my card is working
[07:23] <superpaco> insm0d,
[07:24] <quizme> lstarnes: can i show you my existing one ?
[07:24] <insm0d> superpaco, I understand, you want to use the b43 driver instead of the wl driver
[07:24] <superpaco> insm0d, it just do not has the right driver to get working several apps
[07:24] <lstarnes> quizme: yes
[07:24] <Sincere> how can i mount a pendrive?
[07:24] <lstarnes> quizme: if you have gnome, you can modify the default mirror via system > administration > software sources
[07:25] <uccadmin> aneesh1: Ah, I see. Well in that case my method might not work. What I used to do was boot into a live CD, take the backup of the local HD using partimage and save it to a server, then restore using the live CD/partimage on each machine
[07:25] <superpaco> insm0d, can you give me the comand again ir my uname -r is 2.6.28-16-generic
[07:25] <al_> any testdisk gurus here?
[07:25] <uccadmin> Now I have a clonezilla server that does that all automatically
[07:25] <caturday> Sincere, run "sudo fdisk -l " find the drive name ex /dev/sda1 , then mount it "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt"
[07:25] <insm0d> superpaco, you have already tried System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[07:25] <quizme> lstarnes: http://pastie.org/700646
[07:26] <insm0d> I can't get my cd-burner to work. I'm getting an error with wodim. "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error" along with several other lines. I can post more info upon request
[07:26] <lstarnes> quizme: it looks valid
[07:26] <quizme> lstarnes: i don't have "software sources" option under "administration"
[07:26] <superpaco> insm0d, no I am preatty new with linux
[07:26] <superpaco> insm0d, then what??
[07:26] <aneesh1> uccadmin: Oh! ok. Will it support incremental backup?
[07:27] <superpaco> insm0d,
[07:27] <superpaco> insm0d, but is activated
[07:27] <Grunge> lstarnes, Flash files no longer have volume to it any suggestions on what i should re-install?
[07:27] <lstarnes> Grunge: I don't know
[07:27] <Viking667> I have a quick question. I have two network cards, but for some reason, one hasn't come up. How do I "tickle" it into place? It happens to be my main pipe out, so I'd actually like it to come up.
[07:27] <uccadmin> aneesh1: The method I described was all manual. Clonezilla, on the other hand, can be automated and run incrementally (In my case, 4AM)
[07:27] <thomastim> juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[07:27] <insm0d> what error were you getting when you tried that apt-get command?
[07:28] <Viking667> eth0, a 3C905, the module's probably loaded
[07:28] <caturday> Sincere, Ubuntu should do it automatically though
[07:28] <uccadmin> aneesh1: It requires a machine to act as the server and your clients must be able to do PXE
[07:28] <aneesh1> uccadmin: Ok. So i can backup and restore  all my pc from a centralized clonezilla server. Right?
[07:29] <lstarnes> quizme: if you are upgrading, try commenting out all repos except the main ones for ubuntu (e.g. main, restricted, universe, and multiverse)
[07:29] <quizme> lstarnes ok
[07:29] <lstarnes> quizme: I think the partner, backports, and proposed repos are also main ones
[07:29] <Viking667> heh. It's up.
[07:29] <uccadmin> aneesh1: Yes, you can. Its somewhat of a pain to setup, but once you get it done it take quite a load off of the shoulders of the poor lab manager (Myself in my situation)
[07:30] <uccadmin> aneesh1: Take a look at http://clonezilla.org/ to get started
[07:30] <Blehk> Anyone have any ideas on how I should resolve a xorg that completely halts my system when it starts? using nvidia driver with a GTX280, display 1920x1200, and it starts up, screen blinks a couple times, is black, and completely halts.
[07:30] <Blehk> Tried it with Vesa as well but same issue.
[07:30] <Viking667> whew. Needed to rmmod the module, modprobe the module and bring the stupid thing back up again. sigh.
[07:30] <aneesh1> uccadmin: Ok. Thank you.
[07:30] <Meowpup> hi my fortune addons from here dont work. http://www.thelinuxlink.net/l4c/programs.html
[07:30] <insm0d> superpaco, what error were you getting when you tried running the apt-get command?
[07:30] <lstarnes> Meowpup: how did you add them?
[07:30] <Silent_Echo> question to the room... I downloaded picasa 3.0 and i installed it with package installer, ...but no matter what i poke it with it wont open suggestions? furthermore if i cant get it to work how do i remove it?
[07:31] <Meowpup> like it says
[07:31] <scottyg_> it wont let me login as root
[07:31] <lstarnes> Meowpup: did you move the files for it into /usr/share/games/fortunes ?
[07:31] <scottyg_> i do su -
[07:31] <lstarnes> scottyg_: that is intentional
[07:32] <Meowpup> lstarnes: extract the files into /use/share/games /fortunes
[07:32] <lstarnes> scottyg_: use sudo -i instead
[07:32] <insm0d> Silent_Echo, sudo apt-get delete picasa or whatever the package is called
[07:32] <scottyg_> and put in my password, but it says authentication failure
[07:32] <Meowpup> */usr/share/games/fortunes
[07:32] <scottyg_> sudo -i
[07:32] <scottyg_> good it worked
[07:33] <scottyg_> now will i be able to change permissions on files
[07:33] <insm0d> I can't get my cd-burner to work. I'm getting an error with wodim. "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error" along with several other lines. I can post more info upon request
[07:33] <Meowpup> lstarnes: is busy i can wait
[07:33] <quizme> lstarnes: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)  <--- is that serious ?
[07:33] <mikey2> hey mikey
[07:33] <lstarnes> quizme: only if you have anything installed from the partner repos needing updating
[07:33] <Silent_Echo> insm0d: dont kno "whatever the package is called"
[07:34] <frogzoo> will upgrading to koala cause any major breakage?
[07:34] <narretgrez> so my keyboard and mouse stopped working in karmic koala
[07:34] <lstarnes> quizme: you might want to report it to someone
[07:34] <narretgrez> and i'm not even sure how to fix it, since i cannot get into terminal
[07:34] <Meowpup> lstarnes: yes just like it tells me to i did that . and deleted the origional ones
[07:34] <Viking667> ugh.
[07:34] <quizme> lstarnes like who ?
[07:34] <lstarnes> Meowpup: why did you delete the original ones
[07:34] <Meowpup> not fortunes thoe i think thats the application file
[07:34] <lstarnes> quizme: maybe on launchpad
[07:34] <Nyha> After last update the desktop is black, gnome panels show but not the standard windowmanager... I think.
[07:34] <Nyha> What can I do?
[07:35] <Meowpup> lstarnes: i do not want standard fortunes just christian ones from http://www.thelinuxlink.net/l4c/programs.html
[07:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: I am aware of that link
[07:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: what files do you have in /usr/share/games/fortunes now?
[07:36] <frogzoo> christians get a better class of fortune?
[07:36] <Meowpup> lstarnes: hold on imagebin them
[07:36] <lstarnes> Meowpup: don't imagebin
[07:36] <lstarnes> Meowpup: use ls
[07:36] <quizme> lstarnes: should i just install from disk ?
[07:36] <lstarnes> quizme: if it's the alternate cd, you can do an in-place upgrade through it
[07:36] <lstarnes> quizme: or disable the partner repos if you don't use packages from them
[07:36] <quizme> lstarnes ok
[07:37] <Viking667> Nyha: hm. Ethernet up?
[07:38] <Nyha> Viking667: yes ofc.
[07:38] <Meowpup> lstarnes:  ls what
[07:38] <Viking667> I just had a day of black screen, until I finally figured out my eth0 wasn't up.
[07:38] <lstarnes> Meowpup: ls /usr/share/games/fortunes ?
[07:38] <Viking667> Didn't matter, until I needed network...
[07:38] <Nyha> Viking667: Its metacity that wont start...
[07:39] <Viking667> mrm. I hate when that happens
[07:39] <superpaco> insm0d, I downloaded the bc43-cutter driver and I build the bc43 module so I just need to remove the wl driver for my card...how can I do that pal???
[07:39] <Meowpup> fortunes
[07:39] <Meowpup> fortunes.dat
[07:39] <Meowpup> fortunes.u8
[07:39] <Meowpup> kjv
[07:39] <Meowpup> kjv.dat
[07:39] <Meowpup> linbread
[07:39] <FloodBot2> Meowpup: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:39] <andy> is there a way to swtich from netbook remix view to classic view?
[07:39] <lstarnes> Meowpup: try fortunes kjv
[07:39] <Viking667> lstarnes: too late. He got punted
[07:39] <Meowpup> lstarnes: the other ones i renamed as hidden files
[07:39] <Viking667> oh, sorry.
[07:39] <Meowpup> ok
[07:39] <smeags> is there a way to swtich from netbook remix view to classic view?
[07:39] <lstarnes> Meowpup: it can still read hidden files
[07:40] <Meowpup> lstarnes: in terminal
[07:40] <quizme> lstarnes: i disabled the partner packages.  I think it's working now.
[07:40] <kermit> heh this karmic upgrade is supposed to break things mid-update right?
[07:40] <lstarnes> Meowpup: rename them back and move them to a different directory or just delete them
[07:40] <insm0d> superpaco, add the wl driver to the blacklist.  I can't remember how to do it off the bat, but google ubuntu module blacklisting.  From now on, whenever you reboot, wl driver will not be loaded unless you specifically call it
[07:41] <smeags> is there a way to swtich from netbook remix view to classic view?
[07:41] <kermit> i'm supprised it doesnt extract everything then just move it into place quickly for less downtime
[07:41] <Meowpup> lstarnes: how do i try fortunes kjv
[07:41] <lstarnes> Meowpup: it's a terminal command
[07:41] <superpaco> ok
[07:41] <Thundercross> *WB(travis)WB* - <+Travis> Wait... Thundercross actually chats? You mean he isn't just a bot that says something clever whenever Zips joins the chat?
[07:42] <Meowpup> lstarnes: fortunes kjv
[07:42] <Meowpup> bash: fortunes: command not found
[07:42] <Nyha> Viking667: I found the problem, after last update the WM has changed to compiz...
[07:42] <Nyha> For some strange reason...
[07:42] <lstarnes> Meowpup: oops.  use fortune kjv
[07:42] <superpaco> let me see and if I bc43 does not work I will connect tto tell me how to put it as a default driver again because is working preatty good I just can not do a couple of things
[07:42] <superpaco> insm0d,
[07:42] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s :o(
[07:42] <superpaco> insm0d,
[07:42] <superpaco> thanks
[07:42] <FloodBot2> superpaco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:43] <smeags> is there a way to swtich from netbook remix view to classic view?
[07:43] <la-homo-sen-koro> Anyone?
[07:44] <la-homo-sen-koro> Hello?
[07:44] <lstarnes> la-homo-sen-koro: hi
[07:44] <lstarnes> la-homo-sen-koro: someone else might know an answer.  I don't
[07:45] <Meowpup> lstarnes:  ok that works i want the auto fortune to pop up fortune kjv etc at mo it just gives this http://imagebin.ca/view/u3kBl4uD.html  or  http://imagebin.ca/view/btNhm91C.html
[07:45] <obiwan_> hi please i drped my lap to the floor and kicked it, and now the eject button won't work, the cdrom is unmounted and spinning, how can i eject it? i tried sudo eject /dev/sr0 but that won't work either
[07:45] <Jordan_U> obiwan_: Try asking in ##hardware
[07:45] <lstarnes> Meowpup: keep trying
[07:45] <obiwan_> ok thx jordan
[07:46] <Jordan_U> obiwan_: np
[07:46] <kubanc> how do i add DNS servers to ethernet card eth0. I added it to dhclient.conf, but my browsing is still slow?
[07:46] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[07:46] <insm0d> hey guys, I'm hoping someone here can help me get my cd-writer to work.  I think it's an issue with wodim using a scsi method to use my atapi disc.
[07:46] <smeags> is there a way to switch from netbook remix view to classic view?
[07:47] <napster> Hi all...
[07:47] <newuser_> how can i install netbook remix if i already have ubuntu 9.10 installed?
[07:47] <underdog7> oes anyone know of any free web hosting (nothing special/fancy) -- just enough for me to test and develop a wordpress web site?
[07:47] <la-homo-sen-koro> napster, hi
[07:47] <dawid> hej
[07:47] <dawid> mam pytanie
[07:47] <dawid> jest ktos ?>
[07:47] <napster> newuser_: You can use synaptic...
[07:47] <napster> la-homo-sen-koro: Hi  :)
[07:47] <newuser_> napster, what packages do i have to install?
[07:47] <dawid> ok I've got a problem with my bluetooth mouse from microsoft
[07:48] <kostkon> underdog7, you own pc?
[07:48] <kostkon> your*
[07:48] <napster> newbyx86: ubuntu-netbook-remix
[07:48] <kipingor_> Hi there
[07:49] <Bold> Hi all!
[07:49] <napster> Bold: Hi
[07:49] <smeags> is there a way to switch to classic view from netbook remix view
[07:49] <NetNut404> Hi.. I have install ubuntu 9.1 x86_64 on my laptop and have trouble loading the module wl
[07:49] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[07:49]  * Viking667 very seriously wishes he could remove the bluetooth stack, but unfortunately somebody decided it was a "must have" package for networking.
[07:49] <superpaco> insm0d, one very instesting thing
[07:50] <Viking667> I don't have a single bluetooth device here, nor am I ever likely to.
[07:50] <Flannel> smeags: Yeah, you might need to install ubuntu-desktop? (I really don't know the specifics, but I do know its possible)
[07:50] <underdog7> kostkon: i've tried, but i seem to be running into an error that i can seem to resolve.  was just wondering if it would be easier to find a free web host
[07:50] <NetNut404> [ 1172.864631] wl: disagrees about version of symbol lib80211_get_crypto_ops
[07:50] <NetNut404> [ 1172.864647] wl: Unknown symbol lib80211_get_crypto_ops
[07:50] <EMKO> Hi i formated /dev/sdb but all my files are gone on /dev/sdc ?
[07:50] <superpaco> insm0d, on my black list is the bc43 and the bc43xx by default
[07:50] <Viking667> So there's no sense in having software loaded onto my hard drive and into my computer memory that I'm not going to use.
[07:50] <superpaco> insm0d, do I just removed them??
[07:50] <Viking667> *sigh*
[07:50] <kostkon> underdog7, ok
[07:51] <kermit> are lots of things supposed to break mid-upgrade to karmic?
[07:51] <kipingor_> Can anyone tell me how to get a bot for url submissions
[07:51] <kipingor_> tha work on UBUNTU
[07:51] <insm0d> superpaco, I guess.  I'm not really an expert on these things.  I know the concept, but that's all.
[07:51] <Viking667> kermit: I didn't have too much trouble here.
[07:51] <Juzman> Hey guys, anyone running Ubuntu on a EeePC?
[07:51] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[07:52] <Viking667> hey, stop asking the same question too many times.
[07:52] <NetNut404> superpaco, if you remove it from blacklist does it load ok?
[07:52] <Juzman> I installed 9.04, and eee-control script. But when running I get:
[07:52] <Guest78507> d
[07:52] <Juzman> Error communicating with eee-control-daemon: The name org.eee.Eee was not provided by any .service files.
[07:52] <Juzman> Any ideas?
[07:52] <smeags> is there a way to switch to classic view from netbook remix view
[07:52] <superpaco> NetM, let me see is this computer I ahve to restart
[07:52] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[07:52] <kipingor_> Can anyone tell me how to get a bot for url submissions that works on UBUNTU
[07:52] <aperson> Juzman, I am, what eeepc are you using?
[07:52] <kubanc> i addes dns client to my dhclient.conf, but my browsing is still slow? anybody knows what should be wrong?
[07:53]  * Viking667 clears off.
[07:53] <Juzman> aperson, 1000HE.
[07:53] <EMKO> can someone help me please i dont understand why all my files are gona from /dev/sdc when i formated /dev/sdb ?
[07:53] <Juzman> Does your Fn+F10-12 work
[07:53] <Juzman> for Volume mute/down/up
[07:53] <Juzman> ?
[07:53] <aperson> Juzman, I'm on a 701, and please don't hit enter so much
[07:53] <Juzman> aperson, Sorry, didn't mean to. I will type full sentences next time. My bad. :-)
[07:54] <aperson> Juzman, as for whether or not my fn keys working, they all do
[07:54] <superpaco> insm0d, brb
[07:54] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[07:54] <napster> Bye All....
[07:54] <Meowpup> lstarnes: dont you know anymore
[07:54] <insm0d> la-homo-sen-koro, what does mp3gain do?
[07:54] <Juzman> aperson, Hmm, okay. I guess I will try do some more digging around.
[07:54] <kipingor_> Can anyone tell me how to get a bot for url submissions that works on UBUNTU
[07:54] <lstarnes> Meowpup: I'm not sure
[07:55] <aperson> Juzman, have you tried the eeeuser forums?
[07:55] <la-homo-sen-koro> insm0d, if you don't know then you can't help me
[07:55] <sjd> I was here an hour ago asking help to setup grub after installing windows followed by upgraded karmic. I was instructed to boot from jaunty live disk. But i cant boot, it drops into a busy box with a initramfs prompt. what can I do to get booting?
[07:55] <Juzman> aperson, I have been looking around there. Have tried a couple ACPI scripts e.t.c. but no avail.
[07:56] <sC0r9I0> a
[07:56] <NetNut404> # lspci | grep BCM4328
[07:56] <NetNut404> 30:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[07:56] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[07:56] <aperson> Juzman, a post there would prolly be what I'd do, that or ubuntuforums.  You can always try to map the keys yourself
[07:56] <EMKO> can someone help me please i dont understand why all my files are gona from /dev/sdc when i formated /dev/sdb ?
[07:56] <Meowpup> lstarnes: thanks for your help anyway
[07:56] <Juzman> aperson, Yeah. I'm just confused as to why all the other Fn keys work except volume.
[07:57] <sjd> please help
[07:57] <Meowpup> hi all again i am trying to configure these apps http://www.thelinuxlink.net/l4c/programs.html so they auto run with fortune
[07:57] <skinnYPuP> sjd you could take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if its pointing to the right device , ie sda1 sdb3 etc
[07:57] <u-foka> Hy, anyone has a solution for dell mini12 brightness setting?
[07:57] <sjd> skinnYPuP: but im dropped at busybox with the initramfs promt.
[07:57] <kipingor_> Is anyone hear using gwitter and having issues recieving updates from facebook
[07:57] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[07:58] <skinnYPuP> sjd are you running live cd now ?
[07:58] <sjd> skinnYPuP: no, i somehow setup windows. this is where im chatting from.
[07:58] <la-homo-sen-koro> Hello?
[07:58] <lucas_> sweet, nice looking theme for UNR
[07:58] <la-homo-sen-koro> Anyone there?
[07:59] <sjd> skinnYPuP: i need to boot in live mode. I have Karmic on the other HDD.
[07:59] <ryanc_> hey, I'm doing a 9.10 text mode install.  Trying to install it on my RAID, having problems bring up my /boot raid.
[07:59] <ryanc_> only one of the devices will come up
[07:59] <skinnYPuP> Ok so you have a grub dual boot with karmic and windows ?
[07:59] <narretgrez> so does anyone know how to fix the whole broken mouse/keyboard issue on bootup?
[07:59] <ryanc_> says one the other (/dev/sda1) is in use.
[07:59] <skinnYPuP> And windows will boot for you?
[07:59] <kipingor_> Is anyone hear using gwitter and having issues recieving updates from facebook
[07:59] <insm0d> Can anyone here help me get my cd-burner working properly?  It can read and erase fine, but fails writing.
[08:00] <superpaco> insm0d, it worked thanks!!!!
[08:00] <aperson> gpg --list-keys doesn't show my newly created pgp key I created via seahorse. Can anyone guide me here?
[08:00] <la-homo-sen-koro> Anyone there?
[08:00] <la-homo-sen-koro> Hello?
[08:00] <la-homo-sen-koro> Does anyone know of a good mp3gain program for Linux? I tried the Linux version of mp3gain and it butched my mp3s
[08:00] <ryanc_> insm0d, dmesg say anything interesting?
[08:01] <sjd> skinnYPuP: the situation was like this: i had jaunty + windows on dual boot grub. WIndows obviously stopped. meanwhile i had upgraded to Karmic. Now, I formatted windows drive and reinstalled. hoping to fix the grub by booting to live mode. but i got stuck.
[08:01] <narretgrez> is there anyway to reinstall karmic koala from the recovery terminal?
[08:01] <EMKO> OMG i was sooo scared i think i figure it oout
[08:01] <insm0d> yeah, hold on ryanc_, I'll get a paste bin.  Want anything else like an lsmod and the error message I'm getting from wodim while I'm at it?
[08:01] <superpaco> insm0d, how can I help you??
[08:01] <Meowpup> hi all again i am trying to configure these apps http://www.thelinuxlink.net/l4c/programs.html so they auto run with fortune
[08:01]  * la-homo-sen-koro sighs
[08:02] <la-homo-sen-koro> you guys are so unhelpful
[08:02] <la-homo-sen-koro> l33t linux kiddies
[08:02] <skinnYPuP> sjd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:02] <narretgrez> i wish someone would help me :(
[08:02] <aperson> !patience | narretgrez
[08:02] <ryanc_> insm0d, lsmod output is not too helpful.
[08:02] <lstarnes> la-homo-sen-koro: it's possible that nobody here knows an answer.  If anyone active knew, they would have answered
[08:02] <la-homo-sen-koro> duh aperson, I already looked there
[08:03] <la-homo-sen-koro> That's why I'm here
[08:03] <la-homo-sen-koro> lstarnes, I gathered that
[08:03] <aperson> la-homo-sen-koro, I never pointed that to you.
[08:03] <narretgrez> aperson: don't have any patience when i'm forced to run windows :(
[08:03] <klpt> hm, i'll try my luck here
[08:04] <sjd> skinnYPuP: that is not what I wanted, I know to setup grub once im in to the live mode. but I cant boot in live mode. Im dropped to a busybox thing with an initramfs prompt.
[08:04] <sjd> skinnYPuP: what to do?
[08:04] <klpt> does anybody have any experience migrating raid + lvm from one distro to another? in particular, i'm moving archlinux to ubuntu
[08:04] <Besogon> I've just found that ubuntu 9.10 don't support UUID. IMHO this is step back for ubuntu. I read the absolute drive path can change from time to time and UUID is best decision.
[08:04] <la-homo-sen-koro> ubuntu has been nothing but a headache from day 1
[08:04] <zakwilson> I started having a problem last night where my computer would be slow or even freeze during startup, login or when opening programs. Single-user-mode worked fine and I could watch the boot process from there. It was having timeouts involving pdflush.
[08:05] <ryanc_> klpt, I'm doing a raid+lvm+encryption install of kubuntu right not migrating from an existing setup
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Besogon:  dosent support UUID where? Grub and fstab are using uuid here.
[08:05] <sllide> la-homo-sen-koro: ubuntu is the windows of linux
[08:05] <sllide> :D
[08:05] <Meowpup> lathats y he has linuxmint
[08:05] <la-homo-sen-koro> windoze never has such stupid problems
[08:05] <zakwilson> A search suggested lowering dirty_writeback_centisecs and dirty_expire_centisecs, which has made it usable, but I'm still concerned this may be a sign of a hardware problem.
[08:05] <Meowpup> la-homo-sen-koro: thats y you use mint ay
[08:05] <sllide> xD
[08:05] <sjd> skinnYPuP: ?
[08:05] <la-homo-sen-koro> in linux just getting basic stuff to work is a frigging mission
[08:05] <klpt> ryanc - how's that going for you?
[08:05] <sllide> haha
[08:05] <kipingor_> anyone using facebook chat on pidgin, how to?
[08:05] <sllide> what are you trying to do?
[08:06] <la-homo-sen-koro> You spend days, weekends, months, getting stuff to work
[08:06] <sllide> also, it gets easy'er after a while
[08:06] <Besogon> Dr_Willis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades see troubles (some people have trouble for mount ntfs or fat drives)
[08:06] <ryanc_> klpt, Working... I had to manually start my RAIDs and LVM from the command line.
[08:06] <skinnYPuP> sjd if the jaunty cd loads and karmic won't , idk maybe an unsupported piece of hardware or a bad disk ?
[08:06] <NetNut404> not sure where to go from here  when loading wl module
[08:06] <la-homo-sen-koro> yeah sllide, and after a while getting abused also isn't "so bad"
[08:06] <zakwilson> I've found getting the basics to work on Windows to be quite a challenge. I think they both have some work to do, and the one you're more used to seems easier.
[08:06] <ryanc_> klpt, It had an issue with my /boot RAID1 which I came here to ask about fixing.
[08:07] <sjd> skinnYPuP: i tried 3 live disks. i remember once jaunty was released I installed it from the live mode.
[08:07] <dylan_> can anyone tell me the command i would use to manually turn off a webcam ?
[08:07] <klpt> ryanc - what's up? i've had some luck getting my other distro to boot raid5
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> Besogon:  i never do upgrades.  So cant really say ive had the issue. my NTFS partitions are being mounbted by uuid here. Thats all i can really say on the topic
[08:07] <sllide> la-homo-sen-koro: also, try to install some easy stuff not with synaptic and trying to compile stuff yourself
[08:07] <sllide> it helps alot
[08:07] <insm0d> ryanc_, here's the dmesg in it's entirety.  The outputs from burning are at the bottom along with the two commands I tried. http://pastebin.com/m722a5885
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> Learning Linux Basics helps a lot.
[08:07] <ryanc_> klpt, It should work fine.  I boot off raid1
[08:07] <xgvictoriax> i am on hardy and am using lxde as a DE, how can i get compiz to run on startup everytime when i log into lxde?
[08:08] <skinnYPuP> sjd idk i've only been poking at karmic for a couple of days
[08:08] <NetNut404> # lspci | grep BCM4328
[08:08] <NetNut404> 30:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[08:08] <ryanc_> klpt, you have to have /boot on a raid1 i think
[08:08] <ryanc_> fuck
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> xgvictoriax:  short answer - you dont. lxde is using openbox for its wondow manager. not compiz
[08:08] <NetNut404> wl: disagrees about version of symbol lib80211_get_crypto_ops
[08:08] <ryanc_> 'installation step failed'
[08:08] <ryanc_> probably installing the boot loader
[08:08] <xgvictoriax> Dr_Willis, if i get on a terminal and type compiz, compiz will start
[08:08] <ryanc_> no....
[08:08] <kipingor_> Can anyone tell me how to get a bot for url submissions that works on UBUNTU
[08:08] <la-homo-sen-koro> why is it that you carry on like linux is above criticism?
[08:08] <sjd> please someone help me out with this. Im not able to boot to the live mode. im stuck at the busybox thing.
[08:08] <xgvictoriax> Dr_Willis, which is what i need to get AWN working
[08:09] <la-homo-sen-koro> if someone points out a fault, then they're noobs, impatient, etc etc?
[08:09] <soreau> xgvictoriax: You would have to make it start with lxde startup programs, how ever it does that. but it will likely load openbox first then get replaced by compiz
[08:09] <xgvictoriax> so how can i get it to start on startup
[08:09] <ryanc_> failed to find openssh-server, wtf?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> xgvictoriax:  and it replaces openbox then - So  you could check the lxde docs and see how they handle session management/starup apps i guess and run that command.
[08:09] <la-homo-sen-koro> People like you have turned linux into a cult
[08:09] <zakwilson> la-homo-sen-koro: perhaps you'd like to ask us a question about how to do and/or fix something.
[08:09] <la-homo-sen-koro> You can't take criticism, and that's why linux will never improve or evolve
[08:09] <ryanc_> klpt, What is your current setup?
[08:09] <la-homo-sen-koro> zakwilson, already tried that
[08:09] <zakwilson> la-homo-sen-koro: or perhaps you'd like to report a bug at launchpad.net?
[08:09] <klpt> ryanc_: the way i had it set up was with a small /boot partition that would load initramfs and then mount / afterwards
[08:09] <sllide> la-homo-sen-koro: :)
[08:10] <ryanc_> klpt, ubuntu will automaticly take care of everything in the initrd it generates
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> xgvictoriax:  theres the #lubuntu channel also
[08:10] <kipingor_> facebook bot for ubuntu, Anyone have any Ideas?
[08:10] <tiox> People like who? :P
[08:10] <ryanc_> klpt, it is pretty painless.
[08:10] <sjd> please help. how do bypass the busybox prompt? I need it badly. I have karmic but not able to configure grub.
[08:11] <ryanc_> bypass busybox?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> sjd:  you may want to boot a live cd, chroot into the instlled system and try to repair grub that way
[08:11] <xgvictoriax> ¬@@·~½¬{[{]}\¸!"#$
[08:11] <xgvictoriax> sorry
[08:11] <snarkster> any know how to make ubuntu one sync?
[08:11] <sjd> Dr_Willis: i said Im not able to boot to the live mode. it gets stuck at a busybox thing.
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> snarkster:  i find the UbuntuOne thing s little flakey at times.
[08:12] <snarkster> ive noticed
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> sjd:  your Live cd also stops at busybox? thats odd...
[08:12] <ryanc_> insm0d, try a different blank
[08:12] <ryanc_> insm0d, and also maybe update the drive firmware
[08:12] <sjd> Dr_Willis: my live cd does stop there. I tried three of them. they  are jaunty live cd's.
[08:12] <insm0d> ryanc_ it's happened with every disc.
[08:12] <ryanc_> all the same brand?
[08:13] <snarkster> well im away from my home, hard drive dieing, would like to backup some pictures
[08:13] <tiox> I have came here for a low-priority issue. I tried guides and I thought I would do better with a one-on-one with one of the fine folks here who have done it already. I am trying to get xwinwrap to work and I desire not to mess around in terminal to make it work. So I have gwinwrap, which is a python file. I installed python3 and since it also mentioned Glade, I got glade. I try to execute the script and I get a GladeXML error when t
[08:13] <narretgrez> if alt-sysrq-r isn't working, does that mean the keyboard is not being registered at all?
[08:13] <c_wraith> I'm using xubuntu..  I can't seem to figure out how to disable tap-to-click on my trackpad
[08:13] <kermit> while upgrading to karmic, should i 'remove obsolete packages' ?
[08:13] <tiox> Also, yes I did get xscreensaver.
[08:14] <sjd> please help
[08:14] <insm0d> ryanc_ I'll see what I can do with the firmware, but it doesn't look promising for me.  Also I've tried several brands.  All were cd-rw media and I haven't tried cd-r but my drive says cd-rw capable
[08:14] <ryanc_> insm0d, how old is the drive?
[08:15] <spyderfase> ubuntu is for noobs
[08:15] <ryanc_> Those *look* like hardware errors to me :|
[08:15] <sjd> does anyone have a suggestion what I should do?
[08:15] <tiox> I am sure I made somebody laugh tonight. But I am a total, absolute newb to Linux.
[08:15] <ryanc_> spyderfase, go troll somewhere else.
[08:15] <spyderfase> lift your head up high and blow your brains out
[08:15] <kostkon> tiox, even if you choose not to remove them now, you will be able to do it later
[08:16] <snarkster> squelch
[08:16] <insm0d> ryanc_ I'm not entirely sure.  Got this computer second-hand recently.  I know the drive worked with a knoppix-usb boot.
[08:16] <paddy_melon> Hey guys, I get a black screen when, I boot up gnome after updating to 9.10 from Jaunty. KDE works and, I just launch that from recovery root terminal. The GDM login screen also works but, when I login (even with a new user I added), I simply get a black screen but, windows do popup like the authentication of Ubuntu one. However, minimizing these, they fade into the distance. The panels, etc. of gnome aren't there. Can a
[08:16] <paddy_melon> nyone help me?
[08:16] <spyderfase> there must be somethin wrong with al pacinos nose cos the scent of a womans like rotten tomatoes
[08:16] <sjd> please help out.
[08:16] <kostkon> oops
[08:16] <ryanc_> insm0d: Ah.  What brand is the drive?
[08:16] <sjd> none know why Im dropped to the busybox while booting from live?
[08:16] <kostkon> I meant: kermit, even if you choose not to remove them now, you will be able to do it later
[08:16] <tiox> Yes, Ubuntu is for noobs. Which is why Windows users can come to grips with it real easy. :P
[08:17] <kermit> kostkon: oh ok
[08:17] <ryanc_> sjd, busybox from a live cd?  are you sure the cd isn't bad?
[08:17] <spyderfase> windows is for worms
[08:17]  * tiox reminds himself to not feed the troll
[08:17] <sjd> ryanc_: yes, I tried 3 live disc sent me from Canonical. But sometime ago once Jaunty was released I was able to live boot.
[08:18] <ryanc_> sjd, if it's dropping you to busybox... what does it say before that?
[08:18]  * tiox walks to spyderfase and pounds a "DO NOT FEED THE TROLL" sign next to him as a service
[08:18] <insm0d> ryanc_ Again, I'm not entirely sure, but all my software is saying it's TSST TS-L462D.  My computer is a dell latitude d820 and checking the service tag on dell's website shows there is a firmware update dated 2008 for my drive.  Unfortunately that means I'll have to install windows to install it :/
[08:18] <Flannel> tiox: Please just let it pass
[08:19] <sjd> ryanc_: it shows the splash screen, then blac screen, "loading please wait" and then Welcome to Busy Box 1. something with Initramfs> prompt
[08:19] <paddy_melon> Hey guys, I get a black screen when, I boot up gnome after updating to 9.10 from Jaunty. KDE works and, I just launch that from recovery root terminal. The GDM login screen also works but, when I login (even with a new user I added), I simply get a black screen but, windows do popup like the authentication of Ubuntu one. However, minimizing these, they fade into the distance. The panels, etc. of gnome aren't there. Can a
[08:19] <paddy_melon>  nyone help me?
[08:19] <ryanc_> sjd, change the boot options when booting to disable the splashscreen and quiet mode
[08:19] <spyderfase> yeah i can, but i wont
[08:20] <sjd> ryanc_: how do i do that?
[08:20] <ryanc_> sjd, if it's giving you an initramfs prompt then something is seriously wrong.
[08:20] <ryanc_> either your hardware or your boot cd is messed up
[08:21] <tiox> insm0d, would it be possible to run the installer under Wine in order to make it work?
[08:21] <paddy_melon> Can anyone help me?
[08:21] <paddy_melon> Hey guys, I get a black screen when, I boot up gnome after updating to 9.10 from Jaunty. KDE works and, I just launch that from recovery root terminal. The GDM login screen also works but, when I login (even with a new user I added), I simply get a black screen but, windows do popup like the authentication of Ubuntu one. However, minimizing these, they fade into the distance. The panels, etc. of gnome aren't there. Can a
[08:21] <paddy_melon>  nyone help me?
[08:21] <sjd> ryanc_: boot cd is fine i guess. because I tried three of them. but damn what is wrong?
[08:21] <FloodBot2> paddy_melon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:22] <ryanc_> sjd, It's probably failing to mount the root filesystem on the cd
[08:22] <c_wraith> Anyone know how to disable tap-to-click in xubuntu?
[08:22] <sjd> ryanc_: can I do that manually?
[08:22] <sjd> ryanc_: no solution?
[08:22] <spyderfase> fuckbuttu
[08:23] <ryanc_> sjd, If it's failing, you need to see why somehow
[08:23] <ryanc_> try running dmesg from busybox
[08:23] <paddy_melon> Hey guys, I get a black screen when, I boot up gnome after updating to 9.10 from Jaunty. KDE works and, I just launch that from recovery root terminal. The GDM login screen also works but, when I login (even with a new user I added), I simply get a black screen but, windows do popup like the authentication of Ubuntu one. However, minimizing these, they fade into the distance. The panels, etc. of gnome aren't there. Can a
[08:23] <paddy_melon>  nyone help me?
[08:23] <Oyoz> how do i get drivers for my  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) ???please help
[08:23] <paddy_melon> come on guys
[08:23] <sjd> ryanc_: okay, i'l be back
[08:23] <ryanc_> paddy_melon, don't repeat yourself so quickly
[08:23]  * spyderfase says fuckbuntu
[08:24] <Oyoz> Am running ubuntu 9.10 on my compaq presario f700
[08:24] <insm0d> tiox, probably not.  I tried running the bios update from an ultimate boot cd for windows and it refused to run.
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> paddy_melon:  as another trouble shootiung thing - you could start up a session with just a xterm, then try launching gnome-session, or other gnome parts and see if any are failing to work. That may narrow down the problem part of gnome
[08:25] <insm0d> tiox, and if you aren't familiar with ultimate boot cd for windows, it's basically a complete windows installation on a disc
[08:25] <paddy_melon> Dr_Willis... so no other ideas on getting it working
[08:25] <paddy_melon> ???
[08:25] <paddy_melon> I'm really pissed
[08:25] <Mandrew> g'day ya all
[08:26] <paddy_melon> Hey guys, I get a black screen when, I boot up gnome after updating to 9.10 from Jaunty. KDE works and, I just launch that from recovery root terminal. The GDM login screen also works but, when I login (even with a new user I added), I simply get a black screen but, windows do popup like the authentication of Ubuntu one. However, minimizing these, they fade into the distance. The panels, etc. of gnome aren't there. Can a
[08:26] <paddy_melon>  nyone help me?
[08:27] <insm0d> ryanc_, tiox, thanks for the help.  I guess I'll resize my partitions and install windows for a sec to see if a firmware update helps
[08:27] <lstarnes> paddy_melon: you don't need to keep repeating
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> paddy_melon:  you havent tried my trouble shooting tip yet.. so thats about all i can suggest
[08:27] <paddy_melon> Ok, thanks guys
[08:27] <paddy_melon> will try
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> paddy_melon:  youve shown that gnome is the issue. not the user settings
[08:27] <paddy_melon> Dr_willis... what gnome parts are there?
[08:27] <c_wraith> to anyone who might be reading the logs:  the easiest way to disable tap-to-click in xubuntu is to install and run gsynaptics
[08:27] <troopperi> paddy_melon: have you turnn off visual effects?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> gnome-session launches them all. try it first. and look for error messages in the terminal
[08:28] <paddy_melon> troopperi... I turned off compiz... what else should I try
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> nautilus handles the desktop and icons and file manager
[08:28] <ryanc_> c_wraith, you get a gold star, sir
[08:28] <paddy_melon> troopperi... where's the config file for this?
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[08:29] <kostkon> ...
[08:29] <Mandrew> anyone that knows what the drop down menus are called in gnome desktop
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[08:30] <troopperi> paddy_melon: check out /var/log if you can find it there and also at home folder .compiz thats all i can help...sorry
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[08:30] <paddy_melon> troopperi... OK thanks
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[08:30] <gartral> i cant get my system to recognise lm-sensors is installed when i try to run it, but when trying to install it it says the package is at it's latest version
[08:30] <soreau> ! ops | DiKKy_
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[08:31] <schwezzy> ardchoille: I got it to stop booting into tty mode, I think it was something in the boot order because when I removed a blank cd from the drive it boots up normally
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[08:31] <tiox> DiKKy is fail. :P
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[08:31] <insm0d> DiKKy, learn how to spell
[08:31] <indus> HELLO
[08:31] <gartral> !ops
[08:31] <schwezzy> still going to submit the bug report though to be on the safe side I guess, still seems a bit weird to me
[08:32] <indus> gartral: hi
[08:32] <tiox> Thanks to whoever klotheslined him. :)
[08:32] <gartral> indus: hi, seems you saw the issue
[08:32] <indus> gartral: yeah
[08:33] <indus> whats klined
[08:33] <klpt> oh yeah, so i started asking a question but never quite finished
[08:33] <gartral> i cant get my system to recognise lm-sensors is installed when i try to run it, but when trying to install it it says the package is at it's latest version
[08:33] <ryanc_> indus, banned from the irc network
[08:33] <indus> ryanc_: by whom
[08:33] <ryanc_> a server admin
[08:33] <indus> ciao a tutti
[08:34] <indus> how to edit grub2 in easy steps
[08:34] <Mandrew> ok now when the flooder is gone anyone that knows what the drop down menus are called in gnome desktop
[08:34] <Wazzzaaa> How can I commandline lock package versions?
[08:34] <ardchoille> schwezzy: yeah, still submit a bug report. Also let me know the bug report url so I can subscribe to it and keep up with it
[08:34] <indus> question is, can i repair a grub2 install with an older live cd with grub1
[08:34] <schwezzy> will do
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> indus:  chroot into installed system. and yes,,you should be able tio
[08:35] <klpt> I'm moving my Archlinux system to Ubuntu 9.10. The major feature of the computer is that it was a fileserver for my network, but I wanted more desktop accessibility with it. That means it has several hard drives stacked into a RAID5 + LVM storage array. Ubuntu picks right up on the RAID5, but not so much with the LVM. "pvscan" doesn't find any physical devices. I checked to make sure /dev/md? devices are being scanned in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf, and they are. Any idea
[08:35] <siks> i've unchecked "dim display when idle" from power management options ("on AC power") and my screen still dims when i'm fullscreen (watching flash videos for example), why?
[08:35] <siks> and how to prevent it
[08:35] <indus> Dr_Willis: chroot? why, we used to repair it without that for older grub no
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> indus:  thers no grub2 commands installed on the older releases  for starters.....
[08:37] <kermit> when will i be able to upgrade to kernel 2.6.32 ?
[08:37] <oem> hi
[08:37] <Wazzzaaa> How can I commandline lock package versions?
[08:37] <jjmartin> all my video play back is blue after i upgraded
[08:38] <Wazzzaaa> can not find anything in man pages of: dpkg, apt-get nor aptitude
[08:38] <mikey1> hello is there a way i am able to remote desktop and windows computer
[08:38] <Wazzzaaa> yes mikey1
[08:38] <klpt> mikey1: of course
[08:38] <mikey1> how
[08:39] <Wazzzaaa> you want to remote desktop TO an windows computer?
[08:39] <klpt> mikey1: if you're going in to  a windows computer
[08:39] <klpt> there's a tool built into ubuntu under the internet/networking menu
[08:39] <klpt> if you're going the other way around
[08:39] <klpt> you can install some flavor of VNC
[08:39] <mikey1> i am new to ubuntu
[08:40] <d9500> kermit, you can now if you want. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32-rc7/
[08:40] <mikey1> i i need to connect to my windows computer
[08:40] <dutchbuntu> mikey1: so you are running Ubuntu and you want to remote desktop to a Windows PC?
[08:40] <kermit> d9500: oh nice, that fixes atimes on xfs
[08:40] <mikey1> yes
[08:41] <mikey1> is there a way
[08:41] <d9500> kermit, just download the kernel and the headers deb file for your architecture (x86 or x64) then double click the deb for the kernel, run it, then double click the deb for the headers
[08:41] <dutchbuntu> mikey1: go to Applications -> Internet -> Remote Desktop Viewer (I think it is called that)
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> mikey1:  local lan or over the internet?
[08:41] <mikey1> yes
[08:41] <gartral> alright, got lm-sensors installed nd somewhat working, but it isn't reading the modules i activated.. what can i do?
[08:42] <Wazzzaaa> mikey1: Open Internet -> Terminal Server Client.
[08:42] <dutchbuntu> mikey1: type the info of the Windows machine and your login credentials and voila ;-)
[08:42] <mikey1> oh ok let me try
[08:42] <kermit> d9500: thanks!
[08:42]  * ryanc_ tries to manually install grub
[08:42] <Wazzzaaa> How can I commandline lock package versions?
[08:42] <nicle> Wazzzaaa: use "dpkg -l packagename" to query the version info
[08:43] <python_root> !rip
[08:43] <gartral> what can i use to monitor my system's temps and voltages?
[08:43] <Wazzzaaa> nicle: I know. But I want to lock then
[08:43] <Wazzzaaa> them*
[08:44] <kermit> d9500: hmm it seems to have wanted the headers installed first
[08:44] <jcdutton> gardar, xsensors
[08:44] <nicle> Wazzzaaa: what do you mean to lock ?
[08:44] <indus> gartral: lm sensors, gkrellm gui
[08:44] <d9500> kermit, yeah, i think it does now that you mention it.
[08:44] <gartral> jcdutton: look aout for that gardar dude, he likes stealing replies to me >.>
[08:44] <d9500> kermit, if you want more frequent updates, or automatic kernel updates, you might try adding the ppa.
[08:44] <kermit> d9500: oh, but the headers want the kernel first..
[08:44] <jjmartin> i fixed the problem thanks
[08:44] <indus> gartral: though there isa    bug with older amd s which shows temp as 40 always or 22 maybe
[08:44] <gartral> indus: lmsensors is failing me hard
[08:44] <Wazzzaaa> nicle: that it won get upgraded in the future
[08:45] <kermit> d9500: they both seem to want each other to be installed first. hmm
[08:45] <indus> gartral: i dont think anything elseexists
[08:45] <klpt> nobody knows how to figure out where pvscan is looking?
[08:45] <jcdutton> klpt, what is the problem?
[08:46] <ryanc_> klpt, run vgscan
[08:46] <ryanc_> klpt you may need to edit /etc/lvm/lvm.conf
[08:46] <gartral> indus: could you clairify/ and i hae an i7 860, evga p55 ftw win mobo, gtx 275 gfx card and 4 gigs ram..
[08:46] <klpt> ryanc_:  yeah, vgscan doesn't have any physical volumes to look on, so it just returns immediately
[08:46] <indus> gartral: grrrrrrrrr nice config :D
[08:46] <d9500> kermit, if you're running karmic, see if sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa works. then sudp aptitude update
[08:47] <klpt> jcdutton: i run pvscan and it doesn't find my raid5 based lvm array
[08:47] <d9500> then check synaptic for newer kernels.
[08:47] <indus> gartral: what cost
[08:47] <d9500> kermit, not sure if that will work or not. try it.
[08:47] <gartral> jcdutton: what do i have to do to get xsensors to output anything?
[08:47] <klpt> jcdutton: but archlinux (the source of the lvm array) still finds it OK. i can't get ubuntu to find it even by copying the entire /etc/lvm folder into ubuntu
[08:47] <indus> gartral: no problem with intel chips i believe, i have amd x2 4400 which aways shows 40 c
[08:48] <indus> either bios of lm sensors or processor bug
[08:48] <gartral> indus: about $1850 after adding e-warrenties, a HAF 932 case and corsair tx750w psu
[08:48] <indus> gartral: wow too much
[08:48] <indus> gartral: iam planning to buy a nice cabinet only , to hide the low config inside :)
[08:49] <indus> gartral: 750 w , hmm wasted power
[08:49] <gartral> indus: meh, i also payed rush shipping on most of it
[08:49] <indus> gartral: so xsensors is another app for monitoring it seems
[08:49] <xubuntu-new-look> hey guys, just thought I'd nip in to say well done to the xubuntu peeps, last I tried it I wasn't impressed, but karmix is REAL nice
[08:49] <gartral> indus: not really, i plan on upping my gpu to 2x300 series, plus, the psu was on sale for 150
[08:49] <xubuntu-new-look> karmic*
[08:50] <indus> gartral: 300 ? hmm wont be out in months
[08:50] <kermit> d9500:  oh it wanted the headers not specific to my cpu first, then the image, then the cpu specific ones... i think.. i did all 3 at once with dpkg, then it worked.
[08:50] <indus> gartral: maybe send me the gtx 275
[08:50] <indus> gartral: where do u stay?
[08:50] <gartral> indus: nah, im keeping it as a physx card
[08:50] <indus> ok
[08:50] <kermit> why dont i have the cpu temp applet in karmic?  why would it uninstall something like that.
[08:50] <gartral> indus i live in ohio us
[08:50] <indus> gartral: okie
[08:51] <indus> whose line is it anyway
[08:51] <ripthejacker> is there any software to show the total amount of internet usage?
[08:51] <ripthejacker> download+upload
[08:51] <ripthejacker> ?
[08:51] <indus> ripthejacker: no, but your isp will provide it
[08:51] <indus> iirc
[08:51] <klpt> ripthejacker: ifconfig does that for a given connection
[08:51] <d9500> kermit, reboot if you haven't already, and you should be running the new kernel. you might you have check your grub.cfg (don't try editing it directly, just do sudo nano -w /boot/grub/grub.cfg to look at it) to make sure that 2.6.32 is the first kernel in the boot list now.
[08:51] <ripthejacker> well i have to login and logout
[08:51] <indus> klpt: hmm
[08:51] <ripthejacker> to get that from isp
[08:52] <indus> ripthejacker: maybe there are tools out there
[08:52] <klpt> and a lot of routers will integrate that over some interval of time
[08:52] <ripthejacker> klpt: ifconfig gives only for current session
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. ive seen such tools/monitors befor ripthejacker  but i dont know how well/acurate they are
[08:52] <gartral> indus: gkrellm-gui doesn't exist, and what were you talking about earlier, i couldnt make it out
[08:52] <indus> gartral: just gkrellm
[08:52] <indus> gartral: its a gui app
[08:52] <klpt> ripthejacker: yeah, i know. that's what i meant "for a given connection". I could've been more clear. i think your best bet would be to write a little script that logs that and integrates the usage
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker: and the data is proberly not kept  logged. so if you want totals per month.. that maybe harder
[08:52] <ripthejacker> klpt: even for ifconfig i see inaccurate results
[08:53] <gartral> indus: ohh yea, i replaced the stock cooler with an AC Freezer 7
[08:53] <klpt> ripthejacker: what do you mean?
[08:53] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: well total/month is what i need
[08:53] <indus> ripthejacker: did u aks your isp
[08:53] <indus> ripthejacker: i check with my isp account since i am bandwidth limited
[08:54] <ripthejacker> klpt: well sometimes i see usage in GBs
[08:54] <python_root> does any one know about audio ripping from cd
[08:54] <ripthejacker> klpt: next time i check its in mbs
[08:54] <dutchbuntu> !rip | python_root
[08:54] <python_root> !ripping
[08:54] <klpt> btw guys, bandwidth limiting is also the devil. i just traveled to australia and was appalled at what bandwidth costs down there
[08:54] <gartral> indus: it appears as though gkrellm lacks the ability to read voltages off my psu, which makes it useless for me >.<
[08:54] <python_root> Some thing in terminal
[08:54] <ripthejacker> indus: ya same case here
[08:54] <indus> gartral: aah psu voltages? only in bios i believe
[08:54] <ripthejacker> indus: limite account
[08:55] <ripthejacker> indus: dats y i want monitor
[08:55] <indus> ripthejacker: ask your isp, iam sure they provide it
[08:55] <gartral> indus: lm-sensors can read them on most of the other systems ive built
[08:55] <indus> gartral: i think bios only tells how much the mobo is getting anyway
[08:55] <ripthejacker> indus: hmm ders nothing like it
[08:55] <indus> gartral: u need a multimeter frankly for this
[08:55] <ripthejacker> indus: isps in india arent so efficient
[08:55] <gartral> indus: not true, hwmon in windows shows psu outputs
[08:56] <indus> ripthejacker: do you have a web account with your isp
[08:56] <ripthejacker> indus: yes
[08:56] <indus> ripthejacker: iam in india on airtel
[08:56] <ripthejacker> indus: ohh
[08:56] <ripthejacker> indus: airtel is good
[08:56] <indus> ripthejacker: and its breathtakingly good connection :)
[08:56] <ripthejacker> indus: yes but the data is not realtime
[08:56] <ripthejacker> indus: 16mbps?
[08:56] <indus> ripthejacker: yea no real time, its at the end
[08:56] <snarkster> back to U1 how do i make it sync?
[08:56] <indus> ripthejacker: but its accurate
[08:56] <ripthejacker> indus: ya dats the prob
[08:56] <ripthejacker> indus: kk
[08:56] <indus> ripthejacker: i have 2 mbps 15 gb limit
[08:57] <ripthejacker> indus: ohh
[08:57] <indus> ripthejacker: which isp yours?
[08:57] <ripthejacker> indus: me 2mbps 10 gb limit
[08:57] <gartral> indus: man that sucks.. why have a limit?
[08:57] <ripthejacker> indus: nivyahbroadband
[08:57] <indus> gartral: yeah different plans
[08:57] <klpt> does this look useful? http://freshmeat.net/projects/bmon/
[08:57] <ripthejacker> indus: wht does it cost?
[08:57] <indus> ripthejacker: cost?
[08:57] <indus> ripthejacker: 1300 with taxe
[08:57] <ripthejacker> indus: 450/m
[08:57] <indus> lol
[08:57] <ripthejacker> indus: OMG
[08:57] <indus> ripthejacker: which state is this
[08:57] <ripthejacker> indus: mumbai
[08:58] <gartral> indus in america, we have crap speeds, but no limite (they call 625 kps "the fastest availible"
[08:58] <indus> ripthejacker: hmm interesting, send me a link
[08:58] <indus> gartral: america and 625 kbps?
[08:58] <ripthejacker> indus: they dont have a website
[08:58] <indus> ripthejacker: this must be some local broadband
[08:58] <ripthejacker> indus: we have to login to their lan website
[08:58] <gartral> indus and i ppay$40 USD for that!
[08:58] <l43a2> thats...
[08:58] <l43a2> crap
[08:58] <l43a2> LOL
[08:58] <indus> ripthejacker: iam from mumbai but never heard of it
[08:58] <l43a2> wow i get more then that
[08:58] <FloodBot2> l43a2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <l43a2> an im in new zealand
[08:58] <ripthejacker> indus: ya i think pacenet ally
[08:58] <l43a2> 24mbit here :|
[08:59] <indus> ripthejacker: lol pacenet the worst ever i have seen
[08:59] <ripthejacker> indus: ya its local
[08:59] <ripthejacker> indus: ya
[08:59] <ripthejacker> i know
[08:59] <ripthejacker> its pissnet
[08:59] <FloodBot2> ripthejacker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <indus> ripthejacker: they can never match aritel quality
[08:59] <ripthejacker> indus: well nivyah is the best we can get
[08:59] <ripthejacker> indus: does airtel provide lan?
[08:59] <indus> ripthejacker: which place realy?
[09:00] <ripthejacker> indus: goregaon
[09:00] <indus> ripthejacker:bangur nagar stays indus
[09:00] <ellar> hello, i need some space on my home directory, can i securely delete .kde4old as my kde is running fine?
[09:00] <indus> :)
[09:00] <indus> ripthejacker: now in bangalore though
[09:00] <ryanc_> yay, boot failure right off the bat
[09:00] <ripthejacker> indus: u frm?
[09:00] <indus> ripthejacker: bangur nagar
[09:00] <ripthejacker> ellar: ohhh
[09:00] <Talvikuutamo> hello, I using Ubuntu 9.10, I have my pictures, videos and documents on an ntfs partition mounted at boot from fstab to "/media/ntfs", and it is not possible to move them in Ubuntu home folders, but I want to be able to link my Ubuntu home folder to the user files folder on the ntfs partition, so that when I click on "Pictures" in the "Places" menu in Ubuntu, I see the pictures in "/media/ntfs/Pictures" and that when I save a picture in Firefox, it goes 
[09:00] <ripthejacker> indus: lol
[09:00] <indus> ripthejacker: :)
[09:00] <ripthejacker> indus: shastri nagar
[09:01] <ellar> ripthejacker, ohh what?
[09:01] <indus> ripthejacker: i had that crappy pacenet local , no airtel in bangur nagar
[09:01] <ripthejacker> ellar: sorry mssg was for indus
[09:01] <xkenx> whois xkenx
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Talvikuutamo:  dont link your 'home' directory to the location. Link the specific subdirectories to the proper locations.
[09:01] <indus> ripthejacker: you have airtel there?
[09:01] <ripthejacker> indus: nivyah plans r cheap but they dont have customer care
[09:01] <ripthejacker> indus: no airtel
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Talvikuutamo:  ie: link 'pictures' to /media/windows/whatever/pictures
[09:01] <indus> ripthejacker: yea thats why its cheap :) no body cares
[09:02] <ripthejacker> indus: but nivyah is hardly  been down
[09:02] <ripthejacker> indus: lol
[09:02] <indus> ripthejacker: try airtel if you plan games online, quality of line is superb
[09:02] <Talvikuutamo> Dr_Willis: how do I do that?
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Talvikuutamo:  you proberly want to set up fstab to automount the ntfs also at boot time
[09:02] <ripthejacker> indus: too expensive
[09:02] <xkenx> i need help with tunapoe2,  in prefs i put audacious2 as sound player  but it only works sometimes when i try to play from tuna
[09:02] <xkenx> tunapie2*
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Talvikuutamo:  the file manger lets you make links. click drag, hold down alt. select 'make lin khere'
[09:02] <indus> ripthejacker: yeah for normal use any line is ok, but i struggled with pacenet and it was always down
[09:02] <ripthejacker> indus: so ne help with monitor
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Talvikuutamo:  or use the 'ln -s  thisthing thatghing' command
[09:03] <indus> ripthejacker: ask the local operator, he will know
[09:03] <ripthejacker> indus: nivyah has only been down twice in 2 months of use
[09:03] <Talvikuutamo> ok thanks Dr_Willis
[09:03] <indus> ripthejacker: pacenet also i logged in from cable operator site
[09:03] <akyapt> do we have something which can restore the data when i have permanently delete????using shift+del
[09:04] <indus> ripthejacker: they buy bandwidth from the big players, but their connection outside the country sucks, bad routing and equipment
[09:04] <indus> ripthejacker: you will soon find out as you continue using it :)
[09:04] <ripthejacker> indus: pacenet sux no response from call centre and always down
[09:04] <ripthejacker> indus: its not pacenet
[09:04] <indus> ripthejacker: aks your cable guy, he can monitor, iam sure you have a static ip
[09:04] <ripthejacker> indus: ive used pacanet b4 wen there was trick to make it unlimited
[09:05] <ripthejacker> indus: no dynamic
[09:05] <indus> ripthejacker: he can monitor it
[09:05] <indus> ripthejacker:you got connection from him? then you can
[09:05] <ripthejacker> indus: but i want to check on my pc
[09:05] <ripthejacker> indus: is it so difficult
[09:05] <indus> ripthejacker: hmm not sure
[09:06] <indus> !info etherape
[09:06] <ripthejacker> indus: i am not good at shell scripts
[09:06] <indus> ripthejacker: try that
[09:06] <indus> ripthejacker: etherape
[09:07] <indus> ripthejacker: ok found it, install bmon
[09:07] <indus> ripthejacker: or http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[09:07] <ripthejacker> indus: kk ill check dat out
[09:08] <indus> ripthejacker: also, use that instead of dat :)
[09:08] <indus> ripthejacker: helps in future
[09:08] <ripthejacker> indus: lol
[09:08] <ripthejacker> indus: ok
[09:09] <kraut> moin
[09:11] <om26er> !test
[09:13] <tiox> If anyone replied about my gwinwrap problem, I figured it out. :P
[09:14] <Infin1ty> i've been trying to rebuild openoffice package, it compiled well, but then at the time building the package i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m5d58e57a this is really annoying since it took me over 5hours to compile it!
[09:14]  * ryanc_ tries to get things to boot again
[09:15] <om26er> !uds
[09:16] <ryanc_> arg....
[09:17] <Viki27> hello does someone know how can i use preg_march to catch all english char in text file (i created script that read line by line from text file , i would like to find out which line contains english chars.. ) ?
[09:17] <gdmsetup> kernel 2.6.32 is goin to be available for karmic?
[09:17] <maj-cokl> would anyone with intel gma 9* and 9.10 show me output from following command: glxinfo -l | grep 'GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE'
[09:17] <maj-cokl> thanks much folks
[09:18] <rags> how to remove a package without removing the associated dependencies....? I've installed the pakge from source and now I want to remove the pre-pakaged one...but it's removing the dependencies as well
[09:18] <gdmsetup> maj-cokl: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE = 4096
[09:18] <maj-cokl> gdmsetup: hm. thanks much
[09:20] <bcj> How do I change my GDM log-in screen?  I've installed a new theme from the repo's, but when I run gdmsetup (either from the command line or menu) I only get the chance to change default user - nothing about themes.
[09:20] <bcj> (Ubuntu 9.10)
[09:22] <dutchbuntu> rags: sudo apt-get remove [package name]
[09:22] <soreau> bcj: Since gdm has been restructured, I don't think there is a way to change themes through gdmsetup any longer
[09:22] <MenZa> That is correct.
[09:23] <bcj> How does one do it then?
[09:23] <MenZa> There's a hacky approach to doing it, but as it is currently, shouldn't be recommended.
[09:23] <soreau> There may be another method, but if there is I do not know of it
[09:23] <rags> dutchbuntu: That doesn't remove the depedencies?...
[09:23] <MenZa> bcj: Short answer, you don't.
[09:23] <bcj> WTF!?
[09:23] <MenZa> rags: sudo apt-get autoremove will.
[09:23] <soreau> MenZa: Care to share the hax method?
[09:23] <soreau> :)
[09:23] <MenZa> soreau: I don't recall it, but let me have a look around.
[09:23] <rags> MenZa: oh...ok...Thx
[09:23] <bcj> Why is it not possible to change the theme?
[09:24] <rags> MenZa: and aptitude reomves the depnds right?
[09:24] <MenZa> bcj: It isn't for now.
[09:24] <MenZa> bcj: I'm sure it's not intended to be closed down entirely :)
[09:24] <bcj> No, _why_ is it not possible?
[09:24] <soreau> MenZa: In my minds eye, I see editing a file in /etc somewhere ;)
[09:24] <tonystark> i need help ppl i just upgrade to 9.10 it says that i had 4 broken packges and i cannot log to internet cuz  my firefox didnt setup while upgrade so i need help
[09:24] <tonystark> how i could fix my system
[09:24] <MenZa> bcj: Because the developers probably focused on stability over theming for now. I'm sure it's planned to include it.
[09:24] <MenZa> soreau: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[09:25] <MenZa> bcj: You can, however, have a look at the above link.
[09:25] <soreau> bcj: Because gdm is being restructured so with the current implementation, it is not possible
[09:25] <cankoy> maj-cokl: can you turn on visual effects? (compiz)
[09:25] <tonystark> hey room can any one help me here
[09:25] <tonystark> ?
[09:25] <MenZa> tonystark: Patience, young padawan. If anyone knows, they will help.
[09:25] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: patience please
[09:25] <bcj> Thanks all for your answers - I look forward to the day when GDM gets theming back.
[09:25] <tonystark> k
[09:25] <tonystark> srry
[09:26] <soreau> MenZa: Nice. Thanks for looking that up.
[09:26] <MenZa> soreau: Welcome.
[09:26] <maj-cokl> cankoy: i can turn everything i want, but this affects me: bablin
[09:26] <maj-cokl> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_X3100
[09:26] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: do you have internet connection in the terminal?
[09:26] <maj-cokl> cankoy: ^^ sorry
[09:26] <tonystark> yeah
[09:26] <tonystark> i do
[09:26] <tonystark> when i setup firefox in terminal it gives me errors too
[09:26] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: try this command: 'sudo apt-get install -f' (w/o the quotes)
[09:27] <Meowpup> ubuntu 9.10 is ok but it still has buggs
[09:27] <cankoy> maj-cokl: nothing happens on my intel gma based notebook here when i turn on effects, that's why I asked
[09:27] <MenZa> Meowpup: All software has bugs.
[09:27] <tonystark> k thx wait
[09:27] <Meowpup> MenZa: lol my point exactly
[09:27] <cankoy> maj-cokl: it just falls back to None
[09:28] <Meowpup> hi all again i am trying to configure these apps http://www.thelinuxlink.net/l4c/programs.html so they auto run with fortune
[09:28] <tonystark> hey i had that error
[09:28] <tonystark> /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-3.5_3.5.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1_i386.deb
[09:28] <tonystark> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:29] <gartral> *
[09:29] <lstarnes> Meowpup: are all other fortune database files removed that do not belong to the christian fortunes?
[09:29] <tonystark> ?
[09:29] <tonystark> ?
[09:29] <lstarnes> Meowpup: simply hiding them won't work.  Moving them out of the fortunes folder will
[09:30] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: once again, patience please
[09:30] <Meowpup> LSD|Ninja: yes
[09:30] <tonystark> k
[09:30] <Meowpup> lstarnes: ^
[09:30] <Meowpup> ok
[09:30] <cankoy> tonystark: apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get -f install; apt-get upgrade
[09:30] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: is that the terminal output of the command I gave you?
[09:31] <tonystark> yeah
[09:31] <ryanc_> okay
[09:31] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: please try this command: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:31] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. wth is happening here?
[09:31] <ryanc_> why is my initramfs not finding my LVM stuff?
[09:31] <ryanc_> I can't boot :(
[09:32] <tonystark> k
[09:32] <tonystark> thats what came out
[09:32] <tonystark> dpkg: error processing ubufox (--configure):
[09:32] <tonystark>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:32] <tonystark> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:32] <tonystark>  firefox
[09:32] <tonystark>  firefox-3.5-branding
[09:32] <FloodBot2> tonystark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: please pastebin the complete output of that command on paste.ubuntu.com Give me the link after that.
[09:34] <Meowpup> ls
[09:34] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. what is happening here?
[09:34] <tonystark> i had no browser right now my firefox dosnt open
[09:35] <Meowpup> lstarnes: check this out
[09:35] <Meowpup> fortunes
[09:35] <Meowpup> fortunes.dat
[09:35] <Meowpup> fortunes.u8
[09:35] <Meowpup> kjv
[09:35] <Meowpup> kjv.dat
[09:35] <FloodBot2> Meowpup: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <Meowpup> linbread
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: pastebin
[09:35] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: oh yeah, you said that already (
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: do not directly paste text into the channel
[09:35] <adac> For some reason I do not have a bash history after a restart. Any ideas what to do?
[09:35] <tonystark> hey can i chat direct chat with u
[09:35] <tonystark> ?
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: paste to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com instead
[09:35] <tonystark> so i can paste whatever i want thier
[09:35] <tonystark> ?
[09:35] <Meowpup> ls ok i forgit about pastebin will do
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: move fortunes, fortunes.dat, and fortunes.u8 to another location
[09:35] <dutchbuntu> Okay
[09:36] <Meowpup> LSD|Ninja: ok then
[09:36] <Meowpup> ^ lstarnes
[09:37] <dto> anyone know why recordmydesktop is now compiled without jack support? this makes the audio portion break for me
[09:37] <pshr_> !LTS
[09:37] <dto> for example when using gtk-recordmydesktop
[09:39] <om26er> !enter | tonystark
[09:40] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. what is happening here?
[09:42] <spike> hi, is there a one-package solution to install all the media plugins stuff? mp3, wma, divx etc?
[09:42] <lstarnes> spike: maybe ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> !medbunti
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> !medbuntu
[09:43] <gartral> !medibuntu
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> grrr...
[09:43] <zsolt> hi there!i use wine,are windows viruses can cause damage to wine or not?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> zsolt:  if you run them with wine. in theory they can.
[09:43] <spike> thanks
[09:43] <gartral> zsolt: yes, viruses can attack a wine-enabled system
[09:43] <om26er> zsolt: no
[09:43] <lstarnes> zsolt: in theory, they can, but wine often lacks elements of windows that some viruses rely on
[09:44] <om26er> ok
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> remove the .wine dir and anything will be erased. so not too hard to remove. but it depends on what the 'virus' in wuestion is doing
[09:44] <Meowpup> i only ghet this http://imagebin.ca/view/soHHfTeg.html or this http://imagebin.ca/view/V-mp498.html
[09:44] <qp_pq> how do I uninstall gnome ?
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> Running a windows trojan in wine that deletes everything on the C: D: E: and soon.. will basiclly erase your users files.
[09:44] <qp_pq> aptitude remove gnome does not work
[09:44] <zsolt> if a virus attacks wine can destroy my linux too?
[09:44] <qp_pq> since gnome is not a package
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> qp_pq:  what doyou want to use instead?
[09:44] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: xfce or dwm
[09:44] <lstarnes> zsolt: generally, no
[09:44] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: dooesn't matter I just want gnome down
[09:45] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: how do I get i tdown ?
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> zsolt:  users home files would be at risk. but not the whole system
[09:45] <lstarnes> zsolt: especially if none of your wine drives point to other folders on the system
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> !purexfce
[09:45] <ryanc_> Why is busybox in initramfs compiled without an editor?  That is retarded.
[09:46] <om26er> Dr_Willis: i think they don't work on karmic (psychocats.net)
[09:46] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. what is happening here?
[09:46] <zsolt> because i want to use msn messenger with wine,amsn is crap,i tried all,but only empathy works well,but sometimes I can't accept incoming calling
[09:46] <lstarnes> zsolt: what about pidgin?
[09:46] <Spixx> gartral: uninstalled some of the media components?
[09:46] <gartral> Spixx: none at all
[09:47] <Spixx> lspci | grep audio ?
[09:47] <gartral> Spixx: other than wine, lm-sensors, and kdde, it's a fresh install of 9.04
[09:47] <Meowpup> lstarnes: i only ghet this http://imagebin.ca/view/soHHfTeg.html or this http://imagebin.ca/view/V-mp498.html
[09:47] <gartral> kde*
[09:47] <zsolt> how can i configure pidgin to videocall msn contacts?
[09:47] <Spixx> ahh
[09:47] <Infin1ty> how can i tell "debuild" not to rebuild the whole source and just continue building the packages?
[09:47] <om26er> zsolt: no idon't think it does that
[09:47] <Spixx> pidgin cannot handle that at all
[09:48] <Spixx> check if there are any plugin for it though (pidgin.im)
[09:48] <zsolt> that's it why I deleted pidgin
[09:48] <lstarnes> Meowpup: can you use pastebin instead of imagebin next time?
[09:48] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: thanks !!
[09:48] <qp_pq> :)
[09:49] <ryanc_> hah.  got the darn thing to boot
[09:49] <gartral> Infin1ty: have you read the manual/
[09:49] <lstarnes> Meowpup: do you ever get anything different?
[09:49] <kermit> ahh karmic is sticking relatime on everything, how do i get rid of this?
[09:49] <ryanc_> now how do i make it do that on it's own :p
[09:49] <Infin1ty> gartal, i tried to find one, the only thing there is was "man" but it's not so much informative
[09:49] <ryanc_> oh
[09:50] <ryanc_> but the boot process hangs
[09:50] <ryanc_> great......
[09:50] <ryanc_> how helpful.
[09:50] <gartral> Infin1ty: man debuild should have a [cryptic] explinaion of the programs function
[09:50] <om26er> !enter | ryanc_
[09:50] <suigeneris> I have a problem. I plug in my USB stick. lsusb sees it, dmesg sees it but it isn't mounted
[09:50] <Infin1ty> gartral, well, i didn't find anything in there that could help me, otherwise i would not ask in here..
[09:50] <lstarnes> Meowpup: I really have to log off right now.  I'll be back sometime tomorrow.  I will keep my irc client running so that I don't miss any private messages
[09:51] <om26er> suigeneris: format it from ubuntu and then re-insert
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> suigeneris:   ive seen others and had similer issues. with Usb sticks not getting automounted _ i could mount them by hand however with 'sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt'  Never did figrue out why the issue is there
[09:51] <suigeneris> om26er, I can't format it, there's data
[09:52] <durammx> Hi! Need some help on orthos display manager. pme
[09:52] <Spixx> Dr_Willis: maybe with the rights? are they in all the groups that are needed? HAL don't like you otherwise
[09:52] <suigeneris> Dr_Willis, it isn't assigned a device name either
[09:52] <suigeneris> eg sdb
[09:52] <Zombie> Hello?
[09:52] <Zombie> I'm getting a whole lot of these.
[09:52] <om26er> !hello | Zombie
[09:52] <Zombie>  1277.320112] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[09:52] <Zombie> [ 1277.320121] ata2.00: ST_FIRST: !(DRQ|ERR|DF)
[09:53] <Zombie> Any idea what causes them?
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> Spixx:  inmy case i could reboot/log out/in and it would auto mount them for about 4 min.. then it would stop.  I thiunk it was a gnome service crashing. but i did a new clean install.. and the issue hasent reappeared.. (could of been some update fixed it also)
[09:53] <vagothcpp> Can someone recommend me a lightwieght wm that is almost a de but also easy to modify?
[09:53] <leohartx> i need help with jdbc derby, can some one help me ?
[09:53] <Spixx> vagothcpp: blackbox, openbox?
[09:53] <muep__> vagothcpp: it depends a lot on what DE features you need
[09:53] <sjd> I tried many things, but could not boot to live mode. so not able to fix grub. any new suggestions?
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  'almost a de' - is a little.. vague. :) you could use rox-filer for your file manager/desktop icons.  + some light wwindow manager. or pcmanfm for icons/filemanager
[09:54] <Spixx> openbox is the solution ;)
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> Ive notived that rox-filer 's pinboard feature seems broken in 9.10 :(
[09:54] <vagothcpp> Spixx, I considered blackbox, have not heard of openbox, anything that is programmed in C/C++ is also great
[09:55] <yousoboil1> Hello, this is somewhat off topic, but: I did some SEO work for this company and I finished, they will pay me the rest of the money by check but I have a feeling they will do stop payment on the check. Is there some contract I can have them sign before hand so if they do bounce the check I have something to show the judge?
[09:55] <saulus> is it possible to start gpg-agent at start in Gnome?
[09:55] <sjd> any other ways to fix grub?
[09:55] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Well, GNOME is too heavy and is a DE, so not heavy in other words
[09:55] <ardchoille> vagothcpp: Openbox and windowmaker are my favorites
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  all the light DE's out there are just a light window manager + pcmanfm or rox-filere for the most part. from what ive seen
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  so try them out and see aht you like. You can roll your own
[09:56] <vagothcpp> ardchoille, Know if Openbox is programmed in C/++ or do I have to go check =P
[09:56] <lstarnes> vagothcpp: it is
[09:56] <ardchoille> vagothcpp: no idea
[09:56] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Roll my own? That sounds like it would take months
[09:56] <icedwater> vagothcpp: apt-cache show openbox might provide some details.
[09:56] <indus> yousoboil1: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  err.. for a light de - you take one window manager.. and one file manager to handle the desktop icons.. done..
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  unless theres somthing else you need it to do...
[09:57] <Infin1ty> gartral, i don't understand what i need to put after --binary-hook= for example, there's no explanation in there
[09:57] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis,  can you recommend me a window manager that I can use to do that?
[09:57] <indus> yousoboil1: also i believe, bouncing a cheque is an offence provided you are in the same country
[09:57] <icedwater> vagothcpp: I don't think Dr_Willis meant roll-your-own as in code everything from scratch :P
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  flip a coin.. theres a dozen + to choose from.
[09:57] <icedwater> indus: I find scrunched-up cheques bounce better.
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> vag any of the XXXbox, flwm, jwm, icewm,
[09:58] <indus> icedwater: yeah me too :) btw, what is scrunched up?
[09:58] <vagothcpp> I'll need to do some more research it seems
[09:58] <icedwater> For 'customisable' substitute 'barebones'
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  yes you don :)
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> do :)
[09:58] <icedwater> That's usually what it means :P
[09:58] <ardchoille> vagothcpp: I think what Dr_Willis meant was windowmaker for the wm and rox-filer for the file manager.. that's what I did and it works great
[09:58] <gartral> .last gartral
[09:58] <vagothcpp> I am making a major shift to linux, Win32 API is shitting me too much
[09:59] <icedwater> indus: when you make a paper ball out of it.
[09:59] <icedwater> What's the word you'd use for that?
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> Yea windowmaker is neat in many ways. amazing how well it works dispite its age.. it has some quirks.. but its very useable
[09:59] <indus> icedwater: :D
[09:59] <vagothcpp> icedwater, A paper mess
[09:59] <icedwater> Crushed?
[09:59] <indus> ya i got it thanks
[09:59] <indus> funny
[09:59] <icedwater> :P
[10:00] <ahvazi> Hi, has anyone else had problems with gnome not automounting ipod after upgrade to karmic?
[10:00] <qp_pq> ah how well I will feel with Xubuntu
[10:00] <kermit> how do i turn off relatime?  its set on ALL my mounts somehow
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  one 'issue' will be the menus for all the ubuntu apps. You want to have total controll of the menus ? or You want it to automatically add all the ubuntu apps like you would find in gnome
[10:00] <qp_pq> finally I'll be able to run stuff at a decent speed
[10:00] <qp_pq> :)
[10:00] <qp_pq> on my old toshiba
[10:00] <vagothcpp> Basically I don't need super heavy graphics, the less memory on my GPU/RAM the better, but still functional
[10:00] <ardchoille> fluxbox is also quite nice
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  Most any of the window managers mentioned can handle that
[10:00] <Spixx> vagothcpp: xfce?
[10:00] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Define total control
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  if you dont put an entry in your menus.. its not there. :) total control
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> many light wm's do NOT auto-add all the gnome/ubuntu menu items
[10:01] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Organize it how I wish, and control whats in there, yes
[10:01] <vagothcpp> uhm, I jus checked, I /join ##linux and i am in #ubuntu
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> untill you find  that you spend more time editing your menus.. then you do working. :)
[10:02] <vagothcpp> I'm actually going to be running debian
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> shame! :)
[10:02] <zetheroo> it really does seem on this Desktop of mine that Karmic is running very sluggish
[10:03] <courpse> is curl-php in the repo's?
[10:03] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Out of all the linux distros I have tried, save rolling my own from the GNU Kernel, Debian I am most comfortable with
[10:03] <om26er> zetheroo: type the system specs here
[10:03] <icedwater> courpse: Have you checked?
[10:03] <courpse> i cant find write string.
[10:03] <MenZa> !info php5-curl | courpse
[10:03] <icedwater> apt-cache search curl | grep php might help, I don't know.
[10:03] <courpse> ahh ta.
[10:03] <vagothcpp> I do however love Ubuntu for rearranging my hdd's xD
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  ive learned the basics.. so i can handle them all. :) ill stick with ubuntu for now. I dont have to fight with it near as much as many other disrtos
[10:03] <MenZa> courpse: for the record, that was a s simple as 'apt-cache search php curl'
[10:04] <icedwater> Ah that works too.
[10:04] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: well said
[10:04] <zetheroo> om26er: I don't think its the system specs per se .. I have the feeling like something is messed up with the graphics side of things .. like the rendering or something ... in Jaunty it was a lot smoother
[10:04] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Well, atleast we all have a choice at what we want to run with linux, windows there is only one horrible choice
[10:04] <om26er> zetheroo: nvidia?
[10:04] <qp_pq> what's thsi braseros shit
[10:04] <zetheroo> om26er: and I am not even using wobbly windows etc ... I left it on Normal .. yes Nvidia
[10:04] <qp_pq> my system has all these applications I don't know a shit about
[10:05] <qp_pq> and I also don't give a shit about them
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  you got choices in windows..  Win7-home-basic or win7-home-premium-ultra or win7-ultra-home-basic-premium-business
[10:05] <om26er> zetheroo: which driver version
[10:05] <ageeb> qp_pq, relax
[10:05] <qp_pq> I don't think it's fair for my OS to have so many unshared secrets with me
[10:05] <zetheroo> om26er: don't know
[10:05] <qp_pq> I don't like
[10:05] <qp_pq> it
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> or win7-uber-ultra-spiffy-ultimate-basic-light-
[10:05] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Thats not really a choice
[10:05] <Vinceman> how can you find out which compiler was used to install your kernel?
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:05] <ageeb> qp_pq, don't like what?
[10:06] <vagothcpp> And I chose win7-ultimate if you must know, im still unhappy with it
[10:06] <lstarnes> qp_pq: doesn't windows do the same thing?
[10:06] <tsimpson> Vinceman: cat /proc/version
[10:06] <sjd> ?
[10:06] <qp_pq> will debian have so many stupid packages ?
[10:06] <sjd> ?
[10:06] <qp_pq> did I ask for fucking brasero ?
[10:07] <om26er> zetheroo: just tell me which nvidia card?
[10:07] <qp_pq> why the fuck do I get brasero
[10:07] <icedwater> qp_pq: If you know enough, you can remove the packages you don't want.
[10:07] <tsimpson> !language | qp_pq
[10:07] <icedwater> Like so:
[10:07] <sjd> any clue?
[10:07] <dangerx89> ciao
[10:07] <dangerx89> #pr1v3
[10:07] <icedwater> sudo apt-get remove language-en-vulgarity-#ubuntu
[10:07] <zetheroo> om26er: its onboard ... let me check
[10:07] <vagothcpp> !troll
[10:07] <indus> qp_pq: sudo apt-get install brasero
[10:07] <vagothcpp> ?
[10:07] <MenZa> dangerx89: Please don't advertise that here.
[10:07] <qp_pq> ubottu: I'm just saying whoever decides what packages should go in default install should remove all these meaningless packages, why do yo I want brasero ?!
[10:07] <om26er> indus: sudo apt-get purge brasero
[10:07] <qp_pq> indus: remove maybe
[10:08] <zetheroo> om26er: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[10:08] <indus> qp_pq: oh remove yeah apt-get purge
[10:08] <vagothcpp> sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sda3 copies everything from partition sda2 to sda3 correct?
[10:08] <tsimpson> qp_pq: brasero is a CD/DVD burning app
[10:08] <icedwater> sjd: It might help if you actually had a question to ask ...
[10:08] <MenZa> vagothcpp: should do, yes.
[10:08] <lstarnes> qp_pq: sudo aptitude purge brasero
[10:08] <indus> qp_pq: its for burning cds
[10:08] <qp_pq> yeah cool I don't need it
[10:08] <tsimpson> so remove it
[10:08] <indus> qp_pq: why dont you need it?
[10:08] <qp_pq> I never heard of it
[10:08] <qp_pq> because I don't write friggin cds
[10:09] <Vinceman> v4l2 has been installed on my computer, how do I remove it? (it wasn't installed with synaptic)
[10:09] <icedwater> Been scrolling up a bit and I didn't see a question, only two question marks and a 'any clue?'
[10:09] <tsimpson> qp_pq: many people do, and expect an app to be installed
[10:09] <vagothcpp> MenZa, Okay, great, I am an organizational nut, Even the order of my HDD bugs me if its wrong
[10:09] <indus> qp_pq: ok then remove it, the packages are determined from what a broader range of users will use
[10:09] <qp_pq> not me
[10:09] <iceroot> how to check in realtime if a file was added in a specific folder?
[10:09] <lstarnes> qp_pq: it's not designed for you
[10:09]  * icedwater nods at tsimpson.
[10:09] <MenZa> vagothcpp: hehe
[10:09] <sjd> icedwater: i have been here for the past 3-4 hours. I need to fix my grub after installing windows. but im not able to boot into live mode. as Im stuck at some iniramfs prompt
[10:09] <lstarnes> qp_pq: it's designed for average users
[10:09] <qp_pq> aaah
[10:09] <qp_pq> xubuntu
[10:09] <icedwater> qp_pq: But you can design it for yourself.
[10:09] <lstarnes> qp_pq: xubuntu may have it too
[10:09] <icedwater> Ah, sjd.
[10:09] <tsimpson> qp_pq: even xubuntu has a CD/DVD burning app by default
[10:09] <vagothcpp> MenZa, Like how windows deleted my GRUB partition and made it some system reserved crap, ILL SHOW THEM!
[10:09] <tsimpson> most OSs do
[10:09] <icedwater> So you got past the grub screen?
[10:09] <om26er> !pm | zetheroo
[10:09] <MenZa> vagothcpp: Just, make sure neither of the filesystems are mounted.
[10:10] <MenZa> Or you might get into a wee bit of trouble.
[10:10] <MenZa> (Read: explosions and fire)
[10:10] <vagothcpp> MenZa, Heh, yeh, did that once, lost all my personal data...
[10:10] <zetheroo> om26er: huh?
[10:10] <ageeb> qp_pq, i haven't found a mainstream distro that doesn't have a cd burning app installed by default
[10:10] <icedwater> sjd: Unfortunately I can't stay enough to help, but I just wanted to see that you had a question. :)
[10:10] <icedwater> I gotta run for classes.
[10:10] <zetheroo> om26er: I never pm'ed you
[10:10] <sjd> icedwater: grub screen? I lost grub when i installed Windows. but I have upgraded Karmic on the other HDD
[10:10] <icedwater> Can anyone help out sjd?
[10:10] <vagothcpp> Whats the command to poll dd for its status? sudo kill -SIG_USR1 <pid>?
[10:10] <icedwater> sjd: Hm ... how is it you're getting an initramfs screen, though?
[10:11] <sjd> icedwater: God knows!
[10:11] <ct529> hi there!
[10:11] <Vinceman> is there no way to cleanly uninstall software which wasn't installed with synaptic?
[10:11] <ct529> I have to download a video from a videocast that is in iTune format .... what application can I use?
[10:12] <sjd> please I need to fix grub somehow. this is really important. please help
[10:12] <icedwater> sjd: Maybe get a live CD, boot from that, and try grub-install on the correct partition?
[10:12] <ageeb> ct529, what's itune format? quicktime?
[10:12] <sjd> icedwater: yes, i tried more than 3 live cd's. they are taking me to the initramfs prompt.
[10:12] <icedwater> sjd: Which live CDs?
[10:13] <sjd> icedwater: jaunty
[10:13] <icedwater> sjd: I used to have similar problems trying to install jaunty, hardy and intrepid on my current laptop.
[10:13] <icedwater> sjd: Try burning a karmic one, that should work fine.
[10:13] <sjd> icedwater: but Karmic wont help me to fix grub1
[10:13] <ct529> ageeb: well, belss be if I know .... they say itune format .... I have never used itune in my whole life, do not even know what it is ....
[10:13] <icedwater> How is it you're on IRC, though, sjd?
[10:14] <ct529> ageeb: I use amarok
[10:14] <icedwater> sjd: That is a good point. Consider Parted-Magic, then.
[10:14] <sjd> icedwater: I can boot to windows. but I hate this really.
[10:14] <icedwater> sjd: I used that to tweak my partitions before.
[10:14] <sjd> icedwater: Parted-magic?
[10:14] <ageeb> ct529, have you downloaded the file yet?
[10:14] <icedwater> sjd: Though it's debatable whether that was the cause of my current partition table problem. :P
[10:15] <sjd> icedwater: so what do you suggest ?
[10:15] <icedwater> sjd: Yeah, I think it has some rescue functionality too, like Super Grub Disk. Though I didn't get very far with that, personally.
[10:15] <d9500> Vinceman, yes, but depending on how it was installed, the process can be fairly easy, or time-consuming. how did you install it? .deb file? build from source?
[10:15] <ct529> ageeb: nope, because the browser says "protocol not recognise"
[10:16] <sjd> icedwater: i had given a try with Super Grub disk. but that too got stuck somwhere.
[10:16] <ct529> ageeb: nope, because the browser says "protocol not recognised", sorry
[10:16] <icedwater> sjd: I suppose get the USB image of parted magic, copy it to USB, follow the instructions in the readme to make it bootable (one command)
[10:16] <vagothcpp> I am glad I installed a cat5 cable through my roof, my wireless card was bugging the shit out of me
[10:16] <sjd> icedwater: let me try
[10:16] <MenZa> !language | vagothcpp
[10:16] <icedwater> sjd: Then boot Parted magic and go to a console
[10:16] <sjd> icedwater: hmm
[10:16] <vagothcpp> bugging the s**t out of me ^
[10:16] <ageeb> ct529, can you pm me the link?
[10:16] <icedwater> sjd: In the console, sudo chroot to the existing partition where grub is, then do a grub-install
[10:17] <icedwater> sjd: That's what worked for my case, though it was a relatively simple error 17 with grub.
[10:17] <Vinceman> d9500 I don't remember exactly
[10:17] <icedwater> Did you get any sort of error code?
[10:17] <icedwater> sjd: You can search for the grub error code you got, too.
[10:17] <vagothcpp> OH GOD, at 5MB/s this dd of 138GiB is going to take forever
[10:17] <sjd> icedwater: I simply lost the grub as I installed windows after ubuntu.
[10:18] <icedwater> Apparently 15 and 17 are easy to resolve. Oh, it was eaten, huh.
[10:18] <sjd> icedwater: grub is not live, to give a code
[10:18] <sjd> icedwater: yeah
[10:18] <Vinceman> d9500 I installed it from here:  http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers
[10:18] <icedwater> sjd: Well, this is a first: grub has been eaten by a grue.
[10:18] <icedwater> Heh.
[10:18] <sjd> icedwater: this is obvious that when we install windows after Ubuntu, grub would be lost.
[10:19] <icedwater> sjd: So try parted-magic -> USB-boot -> chroot -> grub-install /dev/sda0 or something.
[10:19] <ct529> ageeb: of course
[10:19] <sjd> icedwater: okay.
[10:19] <icedwater> sjd: Yes, it is, you're right. But I haven't done that in a while now.
[10:19] <sjd> icedwater: :)
[10:19] <ardchoille> !nick | meff
[10:19] <plitter> this is probably a stupid question but i cant figure out how to play podcast on amarok, i can subscribe but dont know where to find them and can put them in a playlist but nothing happens when i do the double click
[10:20] <d9500> Vinceman, looks like it was built from source, so there won't be a listing that synaptic, aptitude, or dpkg can use. do you still have the tarball that the source came compressed in?
[10:20] <om26er> !register
[10:20] <icedwater> sjd: Also, /dev/sda or /dev/hda to install that to the main master boot records ... should work better than /dev/sda1 etc
[10:20] <icedwater> I should leave now before it's too late .... :P
[10:20] <sjd> icedwater: okay.
[10:20] <naftilos76> hi everyone - I cannot redirect an audio stream using pulse to a different target with 9.10! Instead, i could do that with 9.04! Where has that option gone?
[10:21] <Vinceman> d9500 I can download it again from the site
[10:21] <Vinceman> d9500: in the future, it really is best to only install with synaptic, isn't it?
[10:22] <kazoo> Hello, How do i restart OpenSSH?
[10:22] <d9500> Vinceman, yes or use a .deb file. packages installed from .deb files, i think, have to be installed using dpg from the command line, but it still beats trying to get rid of files installed from source.
[10:22] <Spixx> kazoo: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:23] <Vinceman> d9500: so if I know from what tarball I installed it, how do I uninstall?
[10:23] <d9500> Vinceman, the reason i asked about the tarball was that i didn't see any instructions to run ./configure prior to make to create a makefile. i'm assuming therefore there was a makefile in there, hopefully.
[10:24] <d9500> Vinceman, if there was, then download the tarball, extract to the same directory that you originally extracted to before compiling, cd to that directory in terminal, and run sudo make uninstall.
[10:24] <Vinceman> d9500 ok, thx
[10:24] <vince> my life was change when im install the first ubuntu on my desktop
[10:24] <vince> :)
[10:24] <vince> i love it
[10:25] <Jimi_Neutral> is anyone having toruble wiht clonezilla in karmic?
[10:25] <Jimi_Neutral> scuse my typing
[10:25] <vince> Jimi_Neutral:  i never had problem in karmic
[10:25] <Jimi_Neutral> vince, it is stopping on a message saying let original init take over
[10:26] <vince> Jimi_Neutral:  i never use clonezilla
[10:26] <Jimi_Neutral> vince?
[10:26] <d9500> Vinceman, if that does not work, then the link you sent me lists what directory it installed the files to. back them up to somewhere else and them either use rm to remove the files, or open nautilus w/ root priveilges (gksudo nautilus) browse to the directory the files are in, and send them to the trash.
[10:26] <ageeb> Dr_Willis, you around?
[10:26] <kermit> i just upgraded to karmic, and rsyslogd is eating all the cpu for the first time
[10:27] <d9500> open nautilus w/ root priveliges*  sorry for the typo
[10:27] <plitter> this is probably a stupid question but i cant figure out how to play podcast on amarok, i can subscribe but dont know where to find them and can put them in a playlist but nothing happens when i do the double click
[10:27] <vince> whats the channel for french user who know ?
[10:28] <ct529> question for the supergurus out there .... how do you stream from an itune repository of videos in ubuntu?
[10:28] <ardchoille> !fr
[10:28] <vince> thanks men :)
[10:29] <isolated>  /set gui_usermenu ON
[10:31] <d9500> Vinceman, for example,  /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media directory. you will need to know the name of the .ko file you want to delete, and again, back up any files before you delete them in case you delete the wrong thing and need to restore it later.
[10:32] <_ged> hi, is it possible to include an action on a shell script wherein on that action, it will send an email to someone...
[10:32] <Jimi_Neutral> i just found a post that says karmic fails with clonezilla because of karmics boot scripts....it says to try debian 5.0.3...is that a whole new system?
[10:32] <iscape> hello, how can one deactivate the desktop on the ubuntu remix? (very slow on my old laptop)
[10:32] <Vinceman> d9500 this whole operation is rather dangerous, isn't it?
[10:33] <renee> I'm trying to re-re-re-brand Shiretoko. I can't remember the how to get to the user-agent strings via the browser. Does anyone know?
[10:34] <Jimi_Neutral> can i roll back to jaunty?
[10:34] <Vinceman> d9500 I can't undo all the commands on the webpage one by one.. but I can undo the first one I think
[10:34] <d9500> Vinceman, only if you delete the wrong thing. even then, if you made a backup, you can pop in a live cd, wait for it to boot up and get you to a gui, then mount the drive for your install (ubuntu live cd lets you mount in one click by clicking in xx GB hard disk" icon in "Places") and copy the deleted file/s back over.
[10:35] <vagothcpp> When I was installing flash player, i get "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'", what does this mean?
[10:35] <d9500> Vinceman, try download/extract tarball, cd to the extracted files directory, then sudo make uninstall first. it avoids having to manually delete files. Only do the manual delete if that does not work
[10:36] <Spixx> vagothcpp: are you running a 64bit version?
[10:36] <vagothcpp> Spixx, Indeed
[10:36] <Spixx> then you need to use the 64bit version of the flash installer
[10:36] <Spixx> if you got it from their site that is
[10:37] <Sincere> how can i check whether my machine is 32 bit or 64bit?
[10:37] <Vinceman> d9500 does the tarball have to be in the same directory it was installed from?
[10:37] <vagothcpp> Found it xD
[10:37] <Spixx> check the version number?
[10:37] <Sincere> command?
[10:37] <dutchbuntu> Sincere: depends on your CPU. What CPU do you have?
[10:38] <Spixx> I was close to saying rm -rf :P but try and google it first cause I don't know
[10:38] <dutchbuntu> Sincere: you can check the installed version by running 'uname -a' (w/o the quotes)
[10:38] <Spixx> Don't you remeber from the install
[10:38] <Jimi_Neutral> is it possible to roll back to a previous flavour of ubuntu
[10:38] <vagothcpp> Were do I install the .so for firefox?
[10:38] <Spixx> :/
[10:38] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: It didn't used to be possible, not sure if that's changed in karmic
[10:38] <Sincere> Spixx: i dint remember
[10:38] <dutchbuntu> Jimi_Neutral: not afaik
[10:39] <MenZa> vagothcpp: ~/.mozilla/plugins, iirc.
[10:39] <Spixx> vagothcpp: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[10:39] <Jimi_Neutral> ok thanks guys
[10:39] <Sincere> 2.6.30-02063003-generic #02063003 SMP Sat Jul 25 10:57:13 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux..does this mean 32 bit or 64bit?
[10:39] <MenZa> 32-bit, Sincere
[10:39] <Spixx> 32
[10:39] <dutchbuntu> Sincere: 32-bit (because of generic)
[10:40] <MenZa> dutchbuntu: erm, no
[10:40] <MenZa> Linux dantooine 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:40] <vagothcpp> One thing i can say that is good about ubuntu is the community is generally nicer
[10:40] <MenZa> A 64-bit example. The architecture is set to x86_64, Sincere
[10:40] <Spixx> ;) whyso no rm -rf stuff :D
[10:40] <Jimi_Neutral> shall i reinstall or put a post on the fourms about clonezilla not working in karmic properly cause of the boots scripts (apparently) and which forum should i put it on
[10:40] <dutchbuntu> MenZa: my bad
[10:40] <MenZa> dutchbuntu: no problem :)
[10:40] <d9500> Vinceman, ideally yes. not exactly sure why. i remember reading something about "makepath' which I presume is the path (/path/to/directory) that the original source was built and installed from. on that, i could be wrong.
[10:41] <Spixx> Jimi_Neutral: doesnt ubuntu give you a bugg report thingy?
[10:41] <dell_> lol NEWBIES!
[10:41] <dell_> nix newbs
[10:41] <Jimi_Neutral> Spixx, dunno, im not that long a user
[10:41] <dell_> VASSUP
[10:41] <Spixx> Jimi_Neutral: do you get any error msg at all?
[10:42] <Spixx> where does they occur? check in /var/log/* ?
[10:42] <dell_> Jimi
[10:42] <dell_> whats the problem
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> Spixx, no, it just hangs on "Let original init take over"
[10:42] <Vinceman> d9500 does the hg clone command copy a tarball from the web to your harddisk?
[10:42] <d9500> Vinceman, if you plan on doing a lot of compiles from source, it might be a good idea to build a /src or /sourcecode directory inside your /home/yourusername directory, then extract all your tarballs there before building. i wish i'd thought of that back when i tried to build the nouveau driver for my nvidia card a few months back.
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> clonezilla hangs on "let original init take over"
[10:43] <dell_> give me a couple lines before
[10:43] <d9500> Vinceman, you're talking about mercurial there. which unfortunately, i'm not familiar with. if it's anything like git, which uses git clone to obtain source files, then yes, i would presume it does
[10:43] <Jimi_Neutral> dell, ok one sec
[10:45] <eid> i need to know how to install programs on linux ubuntu?
[10:45] <sjgdfg> eid Software Center?
[10:45] <sjgdfg> eid, Software Center
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> dell_, creating one time_tine_use dir..../opt/drbl....done! Try to remove nosharecache in /etc/fstab.... Done. NFS-root directories are mounted.
[10:46] <d_rwi1> eid: apt-get install *
[10:46] <dutchbuntu> eid: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> dell_, and then the nex tone is "Let original init take over"
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> i saw somewhee online that soneone said it was cause of karics boot scripts
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg: i know but i have an external program i downloaded form the internet
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg:how can i ?
[10:47] <tishikawa1> eid what program?
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg: for example
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg: komodo edit
[10:47] <tishikawa1> eid: if they supplied an ubuntu .deb file, just double click it
[10:47] <sjgdfg> eid, if it's not compiled just double click it or run it by ./(program name)
[10:48] <eid> ok i will try it thanx guys
[10:48] <d_rwi1> my fluxbox menu is reverting to the previous settings
[10:48] <dutchbuntu> eid: http://usefulubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/03/installing-komodo-edit-5.html
[10:48] <Spixx> eid: don't forgett that you need to make it executable to chmod +x ./program
[10:49] <Vinceman> d9500, I get this error when trying to uninstall: http://paste.ubuntu.com/319916/  I guess i'llh ave to manually delete, right?
[10:49] <eid> spixx:  what is the chmod +x
[10:50] <d_rwi1> ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[10:50] <Vinceman> eid it sets execution rights to your file
[10:50] <Spixx> if you have a script or program you need to make it executable otherwise it wont work
[10:50] <Spixx> cya
[10:51] <d_rwi1> eid: it will change the file pemission to x(executable)
[10:51] <eid> vinceman mmm
[10:51] <d9500> Vinceman, is there a plain text file labeled "makefile" in the uncompressed tarball's directory? if not, then you may be able to create one by cd'ing to the directory and running ./configure. otherwise, yes, you will need to manually uninstall.
[10:51] <mataks> help pls.. i just bought an external sound card because my internal soundcard is not working.. how can i change the settings to use the external soundcard?
[10:51] <d_rwi1> ﻿ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[10:51] <d9500> at least, i think that would create a makefile. i'm not too up-to-date on compiling
[10:53] <Vinceman> d9500 there is a makefile
[10:53] <Vinceman> d9500 so I will have to manually uninstall :(
[10:54] <eyalw> Hi, im doing some OS homework, i have a select() system call with one socket fd im listening to, and i get a -1 return value from time to time, but too often, what should i do, what does it mean?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Vinceman:  if you are lucky a 'sudo make uninstll' may work
[10:54] <bigbrovar> .
[10:54] <d9500> Vinceman, then maybe the makefile doesn't include a script to uninstall? i've had that happen with gnome-menu before, trying to remove it after a compile from source. looks like manual may be the only way to do it.
[10:54] <d_rwi1> ﻿ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu after some days, how to make it permanent(redirected here)
[10:54] <MenZa> !ot | eyalw
[10:54] <d9500> Dr_Willis, he did sudo make uninstall. see the pastebin
[10:55] <unimatrix> !kms
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> d9500:  one reason to use those auto-deb commands. :) i guess
[10:55] <Vinceman> d9500 but there's no list of files and where they're installed
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Vinceman:  rerun make install and watch install  where it install stuff? :)  many times things are set to install to  /usr/local or /opt/ by default - makes cleaning them out easier
[10:56] <Vinceman> ok
[10:57] <d9500> Vinceman, unless the documenatation you sent me earlier was wrong, it said the module/s would be in  /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media
[10:57] <akyapt> can any 1 tell me   is it  possible to get the deleted data?
[10:57] <mataks_> help pls.. i just bought an external sound card because my internal soundcard is not working.. how can i change the settings to use the external soundcard?
[10:57] <Vinceman> Dr_Willis, this is a lot of work though
[10:57] <Vinceman> a good programmer will have made an uninstall feature
[10:58] <cutout> Am having trouble connecting to windows VPN on 9.10 it worked fine on 9.04, here is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/319922/
[10:59] <cutout> can anyone help me?
[10:59] <d9500> Vinceman, yes, it's a hassle. using synaptic or aptitude is much easier. you can use checkinstall for source builds though, if you need something for which there is no .deb file.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[10:59] <d_rwi1> ﻿ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu after soem days, how to make it permanent(redirected)
[11:00] <J13R> quick question: is bash shipped with ubuntu by default or just dash?
[11:00] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: how did you delete data?
[11:00] <dutchbuntu> J13R: bash=default
[11:00] <akyapt> dutchbuntu:shift+del
[11:00] <Vinceman> d9500: so you have tar files, deb files and synaptic.. any other ways of installing stuff?
[11:00] <Vinceman> probably more, there have to be
[11:00] <ecto> hello everybody!
[11:00] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: thats permanently gone
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Bash is the default USER shell.. dash is the default system shell J13R
[11:01] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: unless you have a backup, there is no way of restoring
[11:01] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: what kind of back up
[11:01] <mataks_> help pls.. i just bought an external sound card because my internal soundcard is not working.. how can i change the settings to use the external soundcard?
[11:01] <ecto> can someone help me i'm trying to install ubuntu server and when i select 'install ubuntu server' it brings up a dialog box with the word install and an ok button, and you select that and it returns to the menu
[11:01] <tamir> hi
[11:01] <Vinceman> are there many children here?
[11:01] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: USB flash drive, CD/DVD, second HDD... any manually created backup
[11:01] <cutout> what about vpn?
[11:01] <tamir> hkh
[11:02] <tamir> hi
[11:02] <tamir> hey what s up all
[11:02] <d9500> Vinceman, standalone installs. those are tarballs that extract to a directory with a binary and all the libraries that it needs to run. for example, mozilla's beta builds of firefox for linuxthat you download from their website are standalone installs, if i recall correctly
[11:02] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: ohh......that kind of ...no other way of getting ?
[11:02] <J13R> Dr_Willis: thanks
[11:02] <ecto> can anyone help ?
[11:03] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: no. why did you use shift+del in the first place?
[11:03] <d_rwi1> ﻿ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[11:04] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: coz in windows theres 1 software by wich we can get the data deleted permanently........i thought itll be there in ubuntu .
[11:04] <kermit> i just upgraded to karmic and it's turning off my display after just 1 minute of idle.. i dont have it set in the power options though, where can i stop that?
[11:04] <spike> hi, I've followed the restricted format page and installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. I've also followed the one me medibuntu and installed w32codes, but Is till can't play wma files with totem
[11:04] <spike> VLC plays the files but I get no sound
[11:04] <lobi_> hello i have ubuntu 9.04 (64-bit) i use this script to convert video http://exposureroom.com/members/Georg.aspx/tutorials/post/77/  . i get error Unknown encoder 'libx264'
[11:04] <d9500> Vinceman, the hierarchy of preference is as follows 1) available in synaptic or by running aptitude install [package] from command line, 2) available as a .deb file that you can double-click to install, 3) available as a standalone install, 4) available as a fedora .rpm that you can convert to a deb with alien. 5) source code. the last one can be a nuisance if the distributor doesn't provide proper uninstall scripts.
[11:04] <spike> totem complains about decoding failing
[11:04] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: i was deleting some other file but by mistake my ppt got deleted
[11:04] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: ubuntu != windows. In Ubuntu, gone=gone
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> !undelete
[11:05] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: lol ...thanks
[11:05] <d9500> Vinceman, at least that's how i see it, in order of least hassle to most.
[11:05] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: np
[11:06] <d_rwi1> ﻿ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[11:07] <Vinceman> d9500 let me write this down
[11:07] <demonbell> !torrents
[11:07] <kubanc> if i try to in windows xp shared folder from ubuntu computer i need to type username and password? what username and password must I type ?
[11:08] <d_rwi1> !fluxbox-menu
[11:08] <tstebut> gic
[11:08] <dutchbuntu> d_rwi1: maybe you have more luck in #fluxbox
[11:08] <tstebut> hello
[11:08] <eberry> Hello, I installed Karmic Koala, and I am having trouble with my clock.  Am I in the right place to talk to an expert and find a solution?
[11:08] <Vinceman> d9500 normally speaking it shouldn't be a huge problem if there's a couple of unused files on your harddisk somewhere, right?
[11:08] <ardchoille> eberry: you're in the right place
[11:08] <dutchbuntu> !ask | eberry
[11:08] <eberry> Thanks, ubottu and archoille
[11:08] <d9500> Vinceman, no need to write it down. just bookmark http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware  there's a more detailed explanation of that hierarchy there.
[11:09] <d9500> Vinceman, as for the used files, no, unless they're modules that are being loaded at startup that you don't want loaded (old drivers, etc.)
[11:09] <d9500> unused files*
[11:09] <d_rwi1> ﻿dutchbuntu, they redirected me here
[11:09] <Vinceman> ok, i gtg
[11:10] <Blizzerand_> !jigdo
[11:10] <kubanc> if i try to in windows xp shared folder from ubuntu computer i need to type username and password? what username and password must I type ?
[11:10] <Rupp> General linux question here. Can I delete everything from a borked install except the grub and use it for frugal install? I am using the grub right now but didn't know if I could do that
[11:10] <eberry> I am dual-booting Karmic Koala and Windows XP.  I live in the Central Europe time zone.  The time on the gnome applet reads "11:10", but it is actually 12:10.
[11:10] <Marxisme> hi guys
[11:11] <noneNN> when is kernel 2.6.32 goin to be available for karmic?
[11:11] <erUSUL> noneNN: never;
[11:11] <erUSUL> !latest | noneNN
[11:11] <Marxisme> I have a problem with the ssh tunnel, ssh -D port user@server.net channel 4: open failed: administratively prohibited, can someone help me ?
[11:11] <boblesax31> bonjour
[11:11] <dutchbuntu> eberry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[11:11] <noneNN> erUSUL, never? how come?
[11:12] <eberry> Hi dutchbuntu.  I have been to this page without success.
[11:12] <ardchoille> noneNN: ubottu explained it
[11:12] <erUSUL> noneNN: read what ubottu told you
[11:12] <Marxisme> boblesax31: /j #ubuntu-fr ;)
[11:12] <boblesax31> je me trouve en france
[11:12] <wolf89> hi guys!
[11:12] <Marxisme> boblesax31: va sur le canal #ubuntu-fr
[11:12] <d9500> noneNN, already available. https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[11:12] <wolf89> i've got a problem with pidgin..
[11:12] <noneNN> i know but not in repos
[11:12] <d9500> noneNN, download the relevant .deb files and click to install.
[11:12] <Marxisme> I have a problem with the ssh tunnel, ssh -D port user@server.net channel 4: open failed: administratively prohibited, can someone help me ?
[11:13] <wolf89> i've tried to install it, but it tells me that there are not safe components..
[11:13] <Marxisme> please
[11:13] <wolf89> help?
[11:13] <d9500> noneNN, no, nor will it be. ubuntu keeps the same kernel version across a given release.
[11:13] <wolf89> ho can i install it?
[11:13] <boblesax31> oki
[11:13] <dutchbuntu> eberry: so you set up your time zone correctly?
[11:13] <eberry> dutchbuntu: yes, using the instructions on the UbuntuTime page
[11:13] <schwezzy> did you account for daylight savings
[11:14] <noneNN> i think they should put .32 on the repos, make a huge difference for people who uses intel gma video card
[11:14] <eberry> schwezzy: how do I account for daylight savings?
[11:14] <MenZa> noneNN: Suggest it in #ubuntu-motu, then.
[11:14] <Marxisme> nobody ?
[11:14] <schwezzy> eberry: go to the next timezone
[11:14] <frogzoo> eberry: typically, set your time zone correctly
[11:14] <frogzoo> and ubuntu calculate DST for you
[11:14] <eberry> schwezzy: that doesn't sound right
[11:15] <erUSUL> noneNN: .32 has not even been released by kernel.org is rc7 at the moment...
[11:15] <eberry> frogzoo: I think my timezone is set correctly
[11:15] <frogzoo> eberry: what's your TZ?
[11:15] <MenZa> noneNN: If what erUSUL says is correct, then don't bother - RC kernels will not be packaged.
[11:15] <eberry> frogzoo: Central Europe
[11:15] <schwezzy> if for whatever reason it's not calculating correctly, make the correction yourself
[11:15] <MenZa> eberry: I run CET with no problem; automagically adjusts DST and such as well.
[11:15] <frogzoo> eberry: the it will probably just work
[11:15] <noneNN> what is motu?
[11:15] <MenZa> !motu > noneNN
[11:15] <noneNN> i mean whats that channel?
[11:15] <eberry> MenZa: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:16] <MenZa> eberry: Karmic, 9.10.
[11:16] <d9500> noneNN, kernel upgrades can also break things. like binary drivers (ahem, nvidia comes to mind.) putting in repo would automatically install it when update-manager detected it as a newer version. i don't think the ubuntu maintainers wwant to have entire kernel upgrades with the potential to have to reload 1) binary modules that cannot be distributed in kernel, and 2) any manually compiled modules a user has made.
[11:16] <MenZa> But it has been since 5.10 :)
[11:16] <eberry> MenZa: I just had this problem when I updated to Karmic (9.10)
[11:16] <MenZa> eberry: Could your BIOS clock be screwing up stuff?
[11:16] <eberry> MenZa: How would I know?
[11:17] <MenZa> eberry: Hm, could you outline the problem exactly, again? I didn't catch the first part.
[11:17] <schwezzy> restart your computer and follow the prompt to get to bios
[11:17] <eberry> I'll restate my problem
[11:17] <schwezzy> generally f2 or del
[11:17] <MenZa> Excellent.
[11:17] <qp_pq> wow I cannot believe how much stuff I have to remove
[11:17] <qp_pq> from my ubuntu
[11:17] <qp_pq> to make it run decent
[11:17] <qp_pq> I'm switching to gentoo I guess
[11:18] <erUSUL> qp_pq: good luck and farewell then
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> qp_pq:  have fun.. bye...
[11:18] <noneNN> for regular users i think, it would make a big difference, i dont do that stuff i mean modules?... kernel 2.6.32 is a nice upgrade
[11:18] <dutchbuntu> qp_pq: happy gentoo-ing then
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> by the time i got my gentoo box updated.. new updates were out...
[11:19] <d9500> noneNN, if you just need newer intel gma video card drivers, there's probably a ppa for that
[11:19] <qp_pq> dutchbuntu: :P
[11:19] <GIR7590> Hey all, stupid question, but I find myself having to install SDL dev libs a lot on random computers and during reinstalls, and I was wondering if there was a way to install all of them simutaneously. I really dislike having to apt-cache SDL and pick out the dev libs all the time...
[11:19] <eberry> I have just updated from Jaunty to Karmic.  Now the clock in my GNOME applet reads one hour earlier than it should.  I am in Central European time, and the time here is 12:18, but the time in the applet reads 11:18.  Furthermore, when I type "sudo hwclock --show" in the command line, it returns a time that is too early by one hour.  If I type "sudo hwclock --utc" it returns the correct time.
[11:19] <erUSUL> noneNN: stop that; we've told you that that won't happen. And here none has the power to change that so take the "petition" to launchpad or another channel
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> GIR7590:  apt-get supports wildcards I recall..  :) or make a script that installs teh ones you need.
[11:19] <noneNN> d9500, im using xorg edgers, but the difference came with kernel 2.6.32
[11:19] <qp_pq> GIR7590: scp to all , ssh to all aptitude install , or make some Perl script using Expect.pm to automate the install
[11:19] <noneNN> i tell you, its HUGE difference
[11:20] <MenZa> eberry: Humm, sounds weird. Could you try installing ntpdate and do 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'?
[11:20] <kleftisx> hello, i have a question: I have already installed to my pc XP and windows7 but i want to make a triple boot with ubuntu 9.10 without formating the disk. what kind of partition i must to do? and to be able to see the grub menu?
[11:20] <MenZa> noneNN: What erUSUL said. Please stop.
[11:20] <FedoRules> Join Fedora Noob !
[11:20] <MenZa> FedoRules: How about no. Please stop spamming the channel.
[11:20] <eberry> MenZa: 16 Nov 11:20:17 ntpdate[3321]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[11:20] <qp_pq> FedoRules: where did you come out all of a sudden ?
[11:20] <GIR7590> Cool. I didn't know it accepted wildcards, thanks all. :D
[11:20] <MenZa> eberry: Humm.
[11:20] <FedoRules> ok
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> kleftisx:  linux will want a ext2/3/4 parrtiion.  You will need to resize or some how free up some drive space for linux to inssrtall to
[11:21] <kleftisx> Dr_Willis : i will also need a swap space right?
[11:21] <mr_boo> how do i enable the fglrx proprietary driver in karmic?
[11:21] <MenZa> eberry: Try going to System → Administration → Time and Date. What is 'Configuration' set to?
[11:21] <erUSUL> mr_boo: System>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[11:22] <aperson> I don't have a system bell, is there a replacement for watch -b ?
[11:22] <mr_boo> erUSUL: it won't take affect
[11:22] <eberry> MenZa: "Keep synchronized with Internet servers"
[11:22] <MenZa> eberry: And what server is it set to?
[11:22] <d9500> noneNN, you got the new kernel installed, right? as much as i agree that having the kernel available wouldbe nice, the ubuntu team has decided not to. generally, i think the idea is that if you're able to figure out you need a new kernel for the included modules, you should be able to figure out how to download and click a .deb file. ubuntu tries to strike a balance between stable but older (debian for instance) and bleeding edge (gentoo for example). i
[11:22] <d9500> f you want bleeeding edge, try arch or fedora)
[11:22] <eberry> One in Switzerland, one in Illinois (UIUC), and one in New York (Cornell)
[11:22] <erUSUL> !ati | mr_boo read about alternative methods
[11:22] <Zeo> -hub.eu.trsohbet.com
[11:22] <MenZa> eberry: Try unticking all of them, and adding 'pool.ntp.org'
[11:23] <mr_boo> erUSUL: thanks
[11:23] <MenZa> eberry: It seems like a really odd issue. I'm just stumbling in the dark here, but hey, it's worth a shot.
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> kleftisx:  a swap partition is normally needed also yes
[11:23] <MenZa> it's what I synchronise with.
[11:23] <eberry> MenZa: I've made the change.  How do I get the clock to sync?
[11:24] <MenZa> eberry: Good question.
[11:24] <MenZa> eberry: Out of curiosity, have you set any Locations in the clock applet?
[11:25] <eberry> MenZa: Many
[11:25] <MenZa> eberry: Hmm, any of them being in the UK?
[11:25] <eberry> MenZa: No
[11:25]  * MenZa boggles.
[11:25] <eberry> MenZa: One is set for "GMT"
[11:25] <MenZa> Ah.
[11:26] <MenZa> I can't say I've ever seen this issue before - it seems weird. Could you check your BIOS clock? I.e. restart your computer, then follow the prompt to load your BIOS (normally del, F2, or F12)
[11:26] <MenZa> Because that might be conflicting
[11:26] <eberry> MenZa: But (further strangeness), it reads "GMT (new line) 10:26 GMT -1"
[11:26] <MenZa> O_O
[11:26] <MenZa> Yes, that is *very* weird.
[11:27] <digitalfiz> anyone here use secondlife in 64bit ubuntu?
[11:27] <eberry> MenZa: Is there a way to get my bios time without restarting?  It's a bit of a pain...
[11:27] <MenZa> eberry: Alas, no.
[11:27] <MenZa> :(
[11:27] <eberry> MenZa: OK
[11:27] <schwezzy> eberry: you can set the system time
[11:28] <schwezzy> through ubuntu
[11:28] <digitalfiz> im having choppy sound issues with softwares that use alsa
[11:28] <MenZa> schwezzy: So far, no major success. I want to check if the BIOS is conflicting somehow.
[11:28] <erUSUL> digitalfiz: i connected once with the emerald client
[11:28] <ardchoille> eberry: not sure it will help, but what I do is install ntp from the repos and keep the clock synced with internet servers, works here
[11:28] <MenZa> ardchoille: Already tried.
[11:28] <MenZa> 7w 76
[11:28] <ardchoille> MenZa: ah, ok
[11:28] <digitalfiz> i connect fine im just having really choppy sound im watching pavcontrol and it looks like it keeps disconnecting connecting as a stream
[11:29] <digitalfiz> when i make vlc use alsa it is choppy for a bit too but it clears up but vlc isnt as intensive as secondlife
[11:30] <digitalfiz> so i was wondering if there was a buffer control for the alsa to pulse connection
[11:31] <UF-Gast882> hey jemand da der mir vllt mit wlan problemen weiterhelfen kann`?
[11:31] <MenZa> Would someone notify eberry that I have to leave due to a meeting soon when he returns? Thanks.
[11:31] <MenZa> !de | UF-Gast882
[11:31] <GIR7590> Alright, I tried the wildcards, however they seem to work quite oddly in aptitude... I type "sudo apt-get install lidsdl*-dev" and it comes up with a whole mess load of packages, none of them (Except for one) are even remotely sdl packages...
[11:31] <GIR7590> Is there something wrong with what I am doing?
[11:32] <mikey2> fuck me in the ass
[11:33] <luiX_> hi all
[11:33] <GIR7590> Hey luiX
[11:33] <luiX_> i'm trying to get working a deb repository
[11:34] <mikey2> son of a whore
[11:34] <JonathanEllis> I am installing Net Book Remix on an Eee PC which only has a 4GB flash drive. How much space do I need to allocate to the root partition so I can make the home partition as big as possible?
[11:34] <Spixx> mikey2: here?
[11:34] <GIR7590> Well, anyone know what's up with apt?
[11:34] <luiX_> it works fine on local (entry in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb file:/var repo/) but not remotely (entry: deb http://192.168.1.x/repo) I have a symbolic link on /var/www/repo pointing to /var/repo, any idea?
[11:35] <mikey2> i hate windows vista i am going too get windows 7
[11:35] <mikey2> Spixx what the matter
[11:35] <Spixx> ;) nothing, and vista is nice if you got a good computer :p
[11:35] <mikey2> your right
[11:35] <ubuntu> Hi. I often use command 'xset dpms force off' to turn off laptop display including background light. It worked fine in Ubuntu 9.04 without any problems. But on 9.10, something turns the light again on (DPMS -> blank screen) after some period of time, for me example 1 minut til 4 minutes.
[11:36] <Carsten-> hey guys... just tried to login to my new ubuntu installation, was able to earlier today no problem, now i am unable to get by GDM if i drop to a command line, I can login ok, but GDM wont let me pass. Does anyone have any ideas re this?
[11:36] <mikey2> well i have a 12 year old shit rag pc from back to the future lol
[11:36] <Spixx> hehe ;)
[11:37] <mikey2> nah i have a brand new hp nnotebook lol and vista was treating me good untill i gots a virus lol
[11:37] <ardchoille> !ot
[11:37] <mikey2> fuck you you dumb bot thing
[11:38] <llutz> !language | mikey2
[11:38] <GIR7590> Guess I'll re-post my question... (Copypasta from above) I tried the wildcards, however they seem to work quite oddly in aptitude... I type "sudo apt-get install lidsdl*-dev" and it comes up with a whole mess load of packages, none of them (Except for one) are even remotely sdl packages...
[11:38] <kermit_> ignore mikey
[11:38] <mikey2> i will if these bot tinhgs leave me the hell alone
[11:38] <kermit_> ignore mikey 2
[11:39] <mikey2> ignore me shut your mouth
[11:39] <desen> Hi kids. Currently i`m running Ubuntu Hardy (8.04) and i`m encountering some problems. For example: i customize the keyboard (to use specific characters from my language). all goes good, until i restart / shutdown the PC. after that, its like it resets the customization i have made. any ideas why this is happening ?
[11:39] <wgrant> mikey2: Cease that, please.
[11:39] <mikey2> alright sorry
[11:39] <llutz> !ops | mikey2 abusing
[11:40] <kermit_> what language do u use
[11:40] <desen> kermit_ romanian
[11:40]  * GIR7590 sighs...
[11:40] <kermit_> romanian
[11:40] <python_root> kermit_: kewl
[11:41] <sassyn> Hi
[11:41] <sassyn> I need help
[11:41] <kermit_> mikey dont polite
[11:41] <python_root> sassyn: ask question in one line
[11:41] <Carsten-> hey guys... just tried to login to my new ubuntu installation, was able to earlier today no problem, now i am unable to get by GDM if i drop to a command line, I can login ok, but GDM wont let me pass. Does anyone have any ideas re this?
[11:41] <ardchoille> sassyn: please state the issue
[11:41] <kermit_> yes, let us help ur problem
[11:41] <sassyn> What is better to use fglrx ot radeon?
[11:41] <sassyn> I have ATI card onboard
[11:42] <sassyn> And Configure Xfree86
[11:42] <sassyn> open firefox
[11:42] <sassyn> install flash
[11:42] <sassyn> but it is very slow
[11:42] <wgrant> !enter | sassyn
[11:42] <sassyn> OK SORRY
[11:42] <muep__> sassyn: depends a lot on the model of your GPU
[11:43] <sassyn> muep__: It is a onboard radeon
[11:43] <desen> HELP PLEASE! Currently i`m running Ubuntu Hardy (8.04) and i`m encountering some problems. For example: i customize the keyboard (to use specific characters from my language). all goes good, until i restart / shutdown the PC. after that, its like it resets the customization i have made. any ideas why this is happening ? if i check the keyboard settings, all the modifications i made are there, but simply do not apply while pressing the keys
[11:43] <Meowpup> wtf have they done to grub in karmic
[11:43] <organichicken> quick question, i recently upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and am missing the "Advanced" tab under System > Administration, any way to retrieve or access it?
[11:43] <wgrant> !grub2 | Meowpup
[11:43] <muep__> sassyn: fglrx is only available for the new models, or for old Ubuntus
[11:44] <f4lcokian> hey guys..
[11:44] <sassyn> muep__ So if I used 9.10 karmic - should I use the ATI or RADEON?
[11:44] <muep__> sassyn: what radeon model?
[11:44] <sassyn>  VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
[11:44] <sassyn>         BoardName   "ES1000"
[11:44] <sassyn>         BusID       "PCI:5:5:0"
[11:45] <muep__> sassyn: doesn't say much about the GPU model
[11:45] <shyguy> Á¿wth,so many people here
[11:45] <muep__> sassyn: how about lspci | grep VGA
[11:45] <sassyn> 05:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02)
[11:46] <shyguy> how are you? otaku
[11:46] <Irakirashia> Look this people :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1328146
[11:46] <sassyn> muep__: is the fglrx moulde is only for GPU ?
[11:46] <organichicken> hi everyone.. i recently upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and am missing the "Advanced" tab under System > Administration, is there anyway to retrieve or access it?
[11:46] <python_root> zetheroo: good to see u back
[11:46] <zetheroo> python_root: hi again
[11:47] <zetheroo> python_root: I just got my slow system issue fixed ...
[11:47] <wgrant> organichicken: There was never an Advanced option under System -> Administration. Are you sure that's what you mean?
[11:47] <muep__> sassyn: I'm trying to find out if that model is very new, or very old... I'm not familiar with it at all
[11:47] <om26er> zetheroo, how?
[11:47] <python_root> zetheroo: what u did ?
[11:47] <zetheroo> python_root: I had to update to the latest Nvidia drivers ... now its flying
[11:47] <zetheroo> om26er: ah there you are
[11:47] <python_root> zetheroo: Commands ?
[11:47] <zetheroo> om26er: i was looking for you :)
[11:48] <om26er> zetheroo, i was installing new system
[11:48] <zetheroo> om26er: I am going to have to post the info on my tech blog
[11:48] <om26er> zetheroo, yes great
[11:48] <sassyn> muep__: Any more feedbakc?
[11:48] <zetheroo> python_root: you also have Nvidia?
[11:48] <Carsten-> hey guys... just tried to login to my new ubuntu installation, was able to earlier today no problem, now i am unable to get by GDM if i drop to a command line, I can login ok, but GDM wont let me pass. Does anyone have any ideas re this?
[11:48] <organichicken> wgrant: i'm actually trying to change the start up options to prompt for password at boot, and a search led me to the "advanced" tab...
[11:48] <om26er> zetheroo, what was the solution
[11:48] <python_root> zetheroo: check my blog yoo www.club-open-source.blogspot.com
[11:49] <zetheroo> om26er: thanks so much ... i knew it had something to do with the graphic drivers
[11:49] <python_root> zetheroo: No indel default graphics
[11:49] <zetheroo> python_root: looking ... oh ok
[11:49] <wgrant> organichicken: You mean System->Administration->Login Screen?
[11:49] <muep__> sassyn: it's very old. fglrx doesn't support old cards, only those from the R600 generation onwards, meaning HD2000 series and newer
[11:49] <sassyn> muep__: Where did u got this info?
[11:49] <python_root> zetheroo: saw my blog ?
[11:49] <d9500> muep__, http://ati.amd.com/products/server/compare.html says it's a server gpu, and judging from the left to right chronological order, i'd say probably a newer one
[11:50] <zetheroo> python_root: yes :) you a puppy linux user?
[11:50] <d9500> but not high performance or new
[11:50] <muep__> zetheroo: it's from 2006
[11:50] <d9500> in comparison to their desktop radeon cards.
[11:50] <muep__> zetheroo: and it seems it's based on the R100 generation
[11:50] <python_root> No that is written by my partner
[11:50] <kazoo> how do i start lighttpd?
[11:50] <zetheroo> muep__: ummm ... what?
[11:50] <python_root> zetheroo: No that is written by my partner i am mastermind
[11:50] <muep__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_R100_.287xxx.29_series
[11:50] <organichicken> wgrant: in Login Screen i only seem to be able to prompt for user at startup, not prompt for password
[11:51] <zetheroo> python_root: sorry? you have more than one author on the blog?
[11:51] <wgrant> organichicken: Prompting for the user will also prompt for a password.
[11:51] <luiX_> i always get a 404 from my deb repository, is directory structure obligatory?
[11:51] <python_root> zetheroo : other 5 posts are by me . yes a helping hand
[11:51] <om26er> luiX_, use other mirror
[11:52] <ardchoille> !ot | python_root
 I don't get
[11:52] <zetheroo> python_root: here is mine :) http://techiesrus.wordpress.com/
 So this is a old card?
[11:52] <python_root> zetheroowould u like to join ?
[11:52] <organichicken> wgrant: automatically?? wow should have figured that out.. thanks a bunch :D
[11:52] <BELLINXFELON> what can I use to convert video files from one format to another?
[11:52] <d9500> muep__,  it may be from 2006, but it's still being sold in new servers. system76 uses it in all their servers. i knew i'd seen the name before
[11:52] <desen> HELP PLEASE! Currently i`m running Ubuntu Hardy (8.04) and i`m encountering some problems. For example: i customize the keyboard (to use specific characters from my language). all goes good, until i restart / shutdown the PC. after that, its like it resets the customization i have made. any ideas why this is happening ? if i check the keyboard settings, all the modifications i made are there, but simply do not apply while pressing the previously assigned
[11:52] <desen> hotkeys
[11:52] <d9500> all their rackmount servers*
[11:52] <kazoo> Hello, How do i start lighttpd and put files into that dir so it will work?
[11:52] <muep__> d9500: radeon supports it
[11:52] <bazhang> zetheroo, take this to offtopic please; no advertising
[11:52] <python_root> ardchoille: lol see the blog it is related k >
[11:52] <kazoo> `brandon` | lighttpd
[11:52] <luiX_> om26er, i'm trying to make my own repo work
[11:52] <zetheroo> python_root: I don't think I would have the time ....
[11:53] <kazoo> !lighttpd | `brandon`
[11:53] <zetheroo> bazhang: sure ... was not "advertising" btw! :-/
[11:53] <muep__> d9500: and since it's more for servers, why would fglrx need to support it?
[11:53] <om26er> luiX_, i don't know anything about that
[11:53] <karix> hi
[11:53] <kazoo> !lamp | `brandon`
[11:53] <python_root> zetheroo: Cool i need content i will format it i was thinking to start some thing like tutorial posts
 Are u talking 2 me?
[11:53] <d9500> muep__, wasn't suggesting that fglrx would. actually, from what i've read of fglrx, i'm not sure i'd want to use it at all unless i had to
[11:53] <bazhang> python_root, offtopic please also
[11:54] <luiX_> om26er, ok, thanks :D
[11:54] <muep__> sassyn: as far as I know, your graphics card isn't supported by fglrx
[11:54] <zetheroo> python_root: we should probably continue this in a PM
[11:54] <muep__> sassyn: so the only logical option is to use the radeon driver for it
[11:54] <karix> just got a quick question.. don't know if this is the best place to ask though. Has anyone had much luck getting wine to work with games in the 64bit install of Karmic?
[11:54] <sassyn> muep__ fglrx mean Graphics library support (version)
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> karix:  works for me
[11:54] <vivid> karix, works for me
[11:55] <wgrant> muep__, sassyn: In addition, that card does not do 3D, so there would be little benefit in using fglrx.
[11:55] <muep__> sassyn: fglrx is the non-free graphics driver from AMD/Ati
[11:55] <om26er> !wfm
[11:55] <python_root> zetheroo: i agree
[11:55] <karix> damn, must just be me :/ I can't get physx to install
[11:55] <karix> and borderlands needs it
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  but thats what he asked for,,,, :)
[11:55] <vivid> karix, did you read appdb? you should probably ask about that in winehq
[11:55] <JonathanEllis> I am installing Net Book Remix on an Eee PC which only has a 4GB flash drive. How much space do I need to allocate to the root partition so I can make the home partition as big as possible?
[11:55] <sassyn> wgrant, muep__ 10x
[11:55] <om26er> Dr_Willis, ok sir
[11:56] <sassyn> wgrant, muep__: Supported by ATI Catalyst™ Professional Edition - What does it mean?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  :)
[11:56] <karix> vivd, Yeah I did. borderlands gets a gold rating, but another 64bit user is struggling as well
[11:56] <frittmann> Hi all, I'm new to this channel, and new to Ubuntu. I am just experimenting with it at the moment, and have a Hardy Heron installation running under VirtualBox on my Acer Aspire One netbook.
[11:56] <vivid> karix, #winehq
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> karix:  physx - Hmm,., not tried any games that Require that..
[11:56] <karix> vivid, thanks mate
[11:56] <khunt> I created a .desktop file. Deleted it from the menu. Now id I put the same .desktop file in /usr/share/applications it will not work unless I rename the file to something different than the original
[11:57] <khunt> is this a bug?
[11:57] <bidossessi> frittmann: welcome. so how do you like it? having any problems anyone here can help you with?
[11:57] <jrib> khunt: how did you delete it from the menu?
[11:57] <ardchoille> khunt: .desktop files should also work in ~/.local/share/applications
[11:58] <khunt> right click edit menu
[11:58] <frittmann> Hi ﻿bidossessi, thanks for the welcome. I'm really liking it so far. Had a problem getting the USB going at first, but that was a VM problem, not a Ubuntu thing. No, I'm just here to learn.
[11:58] <qp_pq> how do I get antialiasing on xfce ?
[11:58] <khunt> frittmann I have an AA1 Im using karmic netbook remix on that runs well all hardware works oob
[11:59] <qp_pq> I want to get antialiased fonts
[11:59] <qp_pq> my eyes are hurtingwithout
[11:59] <jrib> khunt: as ardchoille hinted, that creates a new .desktop in ~/.local/share/applications/ with the same name that contains something like "hidden=true" and .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications/ with the same name as one in /usr/share/applications/ take precedence
[11:59] <bidossessi> is xfce even being updated anymore?
[12:00] <frittmann> ﻿khunt, I installed Hardy rather than Karmic only because I had the *.iso lying around. :) I will have a look at Karmic later.
[12:00] <ward-> if i rightclick a DVD iso and mount it, where is it then mounted?
[12:00] <bidossessi> what's the best console browser available in the repos?
[12:00] <ward-> whats the location?
[12:00] <ward-> its not in /media
[12:00] <pll8020> hello people! i have a macbook aluminium 13" ubuntu 9.10. i have this problem that when i make a shutdown, the power is not turned off at the end of the process..
[12:01] <khunt> jrib thanks!
[12:01] <bidossessi> ward-: right-click to mount? it might end up in /media/dvd
[12:01] <pll8020> i have also tried shutdown -h
[12:02] <dart> buenas
[12:02] <dart> tengo un problema
[12:02] <bidossessi> !es | dart
[12:02] <ardchoille> !es | dart
[12:02] <ward-> bidossessi, no its not in /media
[12:02] <ardchoille> ward-: checked /mnt ?
[12:02] <bidossessi> ward-: did you mount it from a nautilus menu?
[12:02] <pll8020> noone ?
[12:02] <ward-> rightclick - open with archive mounter
[12:02] <ward-> is how i mounted it
[12:02] <ward-> ardchoille, yep
[12:03] <plustax> Guys, I have an issue when I try to click system then display I get this error.  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/ss.png
[12:03] <frittmann> does anyone else here run Ubuntu under VirtualBox?
[12:03] <plustax> Can anyone help?
[12:03] <Sincere> how can i search for occurrences of %d in my vi file? can anyone please tell me the command?
[12:03] <LOAST> i used ubuntu once and i liked it but my prob was that it used command and i am not good in that ...
[12:03] <pll8020> is there any one using ubuntu on  a macbook ?
[12:03] <jrib> pll8020: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:03] <python_root> ward-:In that case it is probably mouned on your desktop that it
[12:03] <wgrant> plustax: That means exactly what it says.
[12:03] <pll8020> ok.
[12:04] <plustax> how do I fix it? Im new to ubuntu
[12:04] <plustax> only my second day of use
[12:04] <wgrant> plustax: Are you using the proprietary nvidia driver?
[12:04] <LOAST> is there a chace that ubuntu be more easy in the future ??
[12:04] <ward-> python_root, nope its not on my desktop
[12:04] <ward-> python_root, this is not OSX
[12:04] <jrib> LOAST: what do you find hard?
[12:04] <ward-> lol
[12:04] <plustax> im using 185 or 173 I forget which
[12:04] <bidossessi> LOAST: imply it's complicated now?
[12:04] <pll8020> jrib: my macbook will not power off a the end of the shutdown process. any suggestions ?
[12:04] <plustax> I uninstalled libvisual though by accident
[12:04] <LjL> LOAST: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, they'll have opinions
[12:04] <plustax> could that have caused it?
[12:04] <ward-> python_root, i can open it no problem, i just need to know where exactly its mounted
[12:04] <jrib> pll8020: what ubuntu version?
[12:04] <wgrant> plustax: nvidia's proprietary drivers (which cannot be modified by the Ubuntu developers) do not support the standard methods of display configuration. You want to click 'Yes' on that dialog.
[12:05] <ardchoille> ward-: open a terminal and type "mount" without quotes
[12:05] <LOAST> thank u all
[12:05] <python_root> ward-: if u r mounting an archive it is mounted locally not in /media
[12:05] <plustax> Okay thank you
[12:05] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:05] <bidossessi> what's the best console browser available in the repos?
[12:05] <PhompAng> เฮ้ยยยยยยยยยยย
[12:05] <python_root> ward-: see the address its like archive://......
[12:05] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:05] <PhompAng> แว๊บ
[12:05] <bidossessi> what's the best console <web> browser available in the repos (sorry for the ambiguity)?
[12:06] <ardchoille> !best
[12:06] <ward-> python_root, so how can i just mount it?
[12:06] <ward-> like really mount it
[12:06] <ward-> lol
[12:06] <jrib> bidossessi: try links2 and w3m
[12:06] <ghostlines> can virt-manager make snapshots of vm's too?
[12:06] <d9500> bidossessi, links is simple and fast, elinks offers better rendering of pages, imho, but seemed slower on my machine. really, it comes down to what you like better
[12:07] <python_root> ward-: mounting is done for external drivers what v do is only virtual
[12:07] <bidossessi> d9500: i'm in console right now, and i was just looking for options to try
[12:07] <python_root> ward-: sorry i ment devices
[12:07] <ward-> python_root, so i cannot mount a iso? :s
[12:08] <bidossessi> ward-: of course you can.
[12:08] <ward-> ok, how please
[12:08] <python_root> ward-: lol what do u need once u can access file it is like mounting
[12:08] <fasta> How can I get hibernation to work? I have a swap partition of ridiculous size already (9GB) to be sure that it is large enough.
[12:08] <ardchoille> ward-: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /path
[12:08] <ward-> python_root, i need to mount it.......... really mount it
[12:08] <ward-> thanx ardchoille
[12:08] <ardchoille> yw
[12:08] <bidossessi> ward-: google for "mount iso linux"
[12:08] <wgrant> ward-: You could also right click on the ISO and say "Open with Archive Mounter"
[12:09] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:09] <wgrant> ward-: Then it will appear in the file browser sidebar.
[12:09] <bidossessi> i forgot the needed mount options but i know they include a loopback device
[12:09] <ardchoille> wgrant: that's what he did
[12:09] <ward-> wgrant, lol no then its not really mounted
[12:09] <om26er_> archive mounter can mount iso files
[12:09] <ward-> yes kindof
[12:09] <PhompAng> :-P
[12:09] <gsedej> hi! Where to ask about gtk-recordMyDeskotp?
[12:09] <wgrant> ward-: Does the mountpoint in ~/.gvfs not do enough for you?
[12:09] <zetheroo> ward-: have you ever used Gmount-iso?
[12:09] <ward-> wgrant, aha, nobody told me it was located there, i asked
[12:10] <wgrant> ward-: Sorry, I apparently wasn't watching.
[12:10] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:10] <wgrant> ward-: All GNOME mounts should appear in there.
[12:10] <patricidio> hi
[12:10] <python_root> ward-: getting confused and confusing others
[12:10] <ward-> wgrant, nice to know thanx
[12:10] <robas> Does Firefox 3.5.5 run on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS if so how to make it ?
[12:10] <ward-> perfect
[12:10] <om26er_> !hi | patricidio
[12:10] <patricidio> where are firefox config files located?
[12:10] <wgrant> robas: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Desktop Edition is no longer supported.
[12:10] <gsedej> hi! Where to ask about gtk-recordMyDeskotp?
[12:10] <patricidio> are they on ~/.mozilla/firefox/ ?
[12:10] <Meowpup> how do i update smplayer to be default player in update-alternatives
[12:11] <robas> wgrant roger :(
[12:11] <bidossessi> patricidio: in ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[12:11] <patricidio> I can't tell, cause I'm not using Ubuntu just now
[12:11] <UF-Gast255> kann mir jemand bei problemen mit meinemsystem helfen`?
[12:11] <om26er_> Meowpup, you want the latest version? use ppa
[12:11] <wgrant> robas: You should upgrade to at least Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, as Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is no longer receiving updates, except for core server applications.
[12:11] <UF-Gast255> w
[12:11] <bidossessi> patricidio: they're there in pretty much every linux distro
[12:11] <UF-Gast255> wäre sehr nett
[12:11] <om26er_> UF-Gast255, english only
[12:11] <wgrant> !de | UF-Gast255
[12:12] <frittmann> how do I mount a filesystem so that it stays persistent? I am using the Linux Guest Additions of VirtualBox to connect to a shared folder from the host computer. The command I am using is "mount -t vboxsf myshare /mnt/mountpoint" and it works fine, except that each time I restart the VM I have to remount the shared folder.
[12:12] <robas> wgrant I was trying to ugrade but... panasonic toughbook cf-28 seems was not good enaught to run it properly :(
[12:12] <Catalin> hello all
[12:13] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:13] <wgrant> robas: Well, it's no longer safe to run Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.
[12:13] <wgrant> Summerrose: Can you please stop that?
[12:13] <Catalin> can someone tell me who to use pidgin or something else to call a friend that is using yahoo messenger on Windows?
[12:14] <Delano> Does anyone know a general Ubuntu channel? One for fans, not technie support
[12:14] <wgrant> !ot | Delano
[12:14] <om26er_> Catalin, gyachi might work
[12:14] <ikonia> Catalin: pidgen will work fine
[12:14] <robas> wgrant I will try to upgrade it again.... can u remind me irc for console?
[12:14] <Catalin> i`ve tryed both of them and it doesn`t work
[12:14] <jason> does anyone know how to alter the positioning of a print with cups?? on mine the whole page is a couple of cm low and so prints off the bottom of the page
[12:14] <Catalin> i don`t see a button that says "call"
[12:15] <robas> cos after upgrade text mode works but 'cos me being newbe :) hard to ru X
[12:15] <ikonia> Catalin: add him as a friend then just click his name
[12:15] <ikonia> Catalin: it doesn't support voice chat
[12:15] <om26er_> he wanna call his friend
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> robas:  weechat, or irssi
[12:16] <TheMask33> does anyone know how to create a bootable usb containing windows from ubuntu?
[12:16] <Catalin> you see, i want a program that support voice chat
[12:16] <robas> Dr_Willis thank u
[12:16] <Meowpup> how do i set smplayer to be default player using  update-alternatives
[12:16] <ikonia> Catalin: sorry, it doesn't exist
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  a bootable hard drive? or floppy?
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  im not sure what windos even can run from a usb hard drive
[12:16] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: a bootable usb stick
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  ive seen torrents of images however.. not that i advise doing that.
[12:17] <robas> good day to all
[12:17] <Catalin> ikonia, you tellin` me that Ubuntu don`t have a program that has voice chat?
[12:17] <hurrrr> DCC SEND hahahahhahahahahahaha:#asdasdasdasdasdas 0 0 0
[12:17] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: yes, i am also not sure, i tried just using dd, but with no luck
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> Catalin:  skype, and some IM clients can do voice chat
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  dd would never work. :)
[12:17] <om26er_> Catalin, msn and gtalk voice chat works
[12:18] <ikonia> Catalin: not that is compatible with yahoo chat
[12:18] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: why not?
[12:18] <python_root> !skype
[12:18] <orak3l> i never want to install pulseaudio on my system. but sometimes pulseaudio is mentioned in "recommended package". i want apt to ignore pulseaudio. i need some kind of blacklist for packages
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  windows needs special tweaks to boot properly from usb driuves
[12:18] <python_root> !skype | Catalin
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  ask in #windows for details perhaps
[12:18] <Catalin> IM on Ubuntu are not compatible with yahoo messenger(voice chat)?
[12:18] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: hm, i will, thanks :)
[12:19] <om26er_> no sound notifications in empathy any help?
[12:19] <python_root> Catalin:  Install skype
[12:19] <wgrant> Catalin: Nobody has implemented voice chat for the Yahoo! Messenger protocol yet.
[12:19] <ikonia> Catalin: no, Linux does not have a client
[12:19] <vivid> Catalin, you want only voice chat? if you know of ventrilo there is a linux client called Mangler
[12:19] <python_root> !ventrilo |  Catalin
[12:20] <Catalin> and this "Mangler" can use users on Yahoo?
[12:20] <dAnon1> vivid I think I love you
[12:20] <vivid> no its ventrilo
[12:20] <dAnon1> lmao
[12:20] <dAnon1> I was freezing and crashing with wine ventrillo
[12:20] <dAnon1> gonna check that Mangler out
[12:21] <vivid> mangler.org
[12:21] <pll8020> my macbook ubuntu 9.10 is not powering off at the end of shutdown process.
[12:21] <vivid> it requires pulseaudio so if you use wine youll probably want to build it with the winepulse driver
[12:22] <dAnon1> does it support 2* ventirlo as well vivid?
[12:22] <pll8020> my macbook ubuntu 9.10 is not powering off at the end of shutdown process. anyone know how to fix this ?
[12:22] <archman> hello, why can't i spoof my wlan card mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00 anymore? a change in drivers from intrepid to jaunty? anyone?
[12:22] <vivid> dAnon1, im not sure, go to #mangler and ask or submit a feature request, i think its version 3
[12:23] <Roey> hey does anyone know what the heck is up with udev?  My system doesn't detect when I put in my SD card, apparently..
[12:23] <System33> 13:22 [ gavin-hu        ] [ OkropNick       ] [ Zeit|awy_      ]
[12:23] <ikonia> archman: quite possibly
[12:23] <dAnon1> vivid people use vent 2.1.4 mainly
[12:23] <om26er_> Roey, what system
[12:23] <archman> ikonia, any way in shifting between old and new drivers?
[12:24] <Roey> om26er_:  kubuntu 9.10.  Here's a related post I found:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8326382#post8326382
[12:24] <ikonia> archman: I doubt it, kernel modules are normally kernel specific
[12:24] <Roey> om26er_:  it worked until I updated udev one day
[12:24] <ikonia> archman: (that's assuming it is a driver change that's your problem)
[12:24] <archman> ikonia, ok, thanks for the enlightment ;)
[12:24] <Roey> om26er_:  you know, through a general apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <vivid> dAnon1, submit a feature request, the client is only in the RC stages atm
[12:26] <dAnon1> thx vivid
[12:26] <dAnon1> I will
[12:27] <smwn> bot
[12:27] <Catalin> any idee why when i plug my microphone in my M-Audio sound blaster, my sound card doesn`t recognize it
[12:27] <ikonia> smwn: ?
[12:27] <smwn> ikonia bot?
[12:27] <blackshell> anyone experienced ntldr missing problem?
[12:27] <ikonia> swaj: what about it ?
[12:27] <smwn> ops
[12:27] <smwn> im half asleep
[12:27] <ikonia> blackshell: normally caused by a corrupt windows disk after resizing
[12:27] <smwn> its 2am
[12:27] <bidossessi> blackshell: ?? ntdlr in linux?
[12:27] <evap> hi all wazzap
[12:28] <smwn> studying
[12:28] <ikonia> smwn: do you need help with something
[12:28] <blackshell> ikonia:you know how to recover?
[12:28] <blackshell> bidossessi:in dual boot?
[12:28] <Catalin> any idee why when i plug my microphone in my M-Audio sound blaster, my sound card doesn`t recognize it
[12:28] <JediMaster> hey guys, I'm running ubuntu on some virtual servers (xen based), and the kernels installed are currently linux-image-2.6.xx-xx-xen,  when upgrading to karmic, the machines wouldn't boot complaining that they couldn't mount /proc, am I right in thinking that it's installed a generic kernel image that doesn't work with xen and that I should install linux-image-virtual before rebooting after the upgrade?
[12:28] <smwn> No
[12:28] <ikonia> blackshell: if you re-install the windows nltd with the recovery CD - then re-install grub
[12:28] <smwn> i typed in the wrong channel
[12:28] <evap> anyone knw how to install wow under slackware
[12:28] <ikonia> JediMaster: the generic kernel should be fine for acting as a xen guest
[12:28] <blackshell> ikonia:what is windows recovery cd?
[12:29] <bazhang> evap, ask in #slackware
[12:29] <ikonia> blackshell: your windows install CD
[12:29] <bazhang> whoops
[12:29] <JediMaster> ikonia, that's what I thought but I've seen this same issue elsewhere on the net with karmic and xen
[12:29] <gavin-hu> which ubuntu server version support intel xeon x3220 processor . Does ubunte server amd64 suppot it !  any help ?  Thanks
[12:29] <Catalin> any idee why when i plug my microphone in my M-Audio sound blaster, my sound card doesn`t recognize it
[12:29] <blackshell> ikonia:i dint have that option in the xp cd
[12:29] <ikonia> JediMaster: I've not tried it with xen so can't speak from experience, but on paper it "should" be fine, is the complaint just proc
[12:30] <ikonia> blackshell: if you boot from it and click install it will offer you recovery mode or fix install, ##windows can help you with that
[12:30] <JediMaster> ikonia, what are the differences with -xen and -virtual kernels compared to the standard generic one?
[12:30] <smwn> I disagree they are fairly stupid in ##windows
[12:30] <JediMaster> ikonia, yeah, I can't remember the exact error, but it couldn't mount /proc and just plain wouldn't boot at all
[12:30] <smwn> they just debate what OS is better all day
[12:30] <chu__> Mmmm, screen's all getting dodgey
[12:30] <ikonia> smwn: enough - this is ubuntu support - keep with that topic
[12:31] <UF-Gast527> wie kann ich nach channeln suchen`?
[12:31] <blackshell> ikonia:is that a channel in freenode
[12:31] <ikonia> JediMaster: from a xen client point of view, nothing, the -virtual kernel is slimmed down of all host based stuff I believe
[12:31] <wgrant> !de | UF-Gast527
[12:31] <ikonia> blackshell: it is
[12:31] <sergy> DCC SEND "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" 0 0 0
[12:31] <sipior> i hate that.
[12:31] <JediMaster> ikonia, so just less drivers/modules?
[12:32] <smwn> ikonia, are you in a bad mood dude lol
[12:32] <ikonia> JediMaster: pretty much, but all native hardware stuff as its not "real" hardware
[12:32] <bazhang> smwn, stay on topic
[12:32] <ikonia> smwn: no - you just don't need to bad mouth people in this channel
[12:33] <William-Ubuntu> any one can help me , i can't mail to root,
[12:33] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: what happens
[12:34] <JediMaster> ikonia, I just don't want to reinstall (the default images are 8.04 LTS) and upgrade all the way to 9.10 to have it not mount /proc (and because I can't get to grub in the console I can't fix  anything at all)
[12:34] <ikonia> JediMaster: ah yes, I can see how that would be tricky
[12:34] <William-Ubuntu> i can use root to mail to a normal user, two normal can mail each other too, but i can not mail to root use normal or root self
[12:34] <ciphergoth> Has anyone used lxc? lxc-start is giving me an error " lxc-start: open /var/lib/lxc/lenny/nsgroup/devices.deny : No such file or directory"
[12:35] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: can you explain what happens ?
[12:35] <bazhang> ciphergoth, lenny?
[12:35] <JediMaster> ikonia, so in theory then, the -virtual kernel image shouldn't fix this /proc not mounting issue?
[12:35] <BusMaster> I get a Capabilities mismatch error in Karmic even though I did apt-get update; and the systems that the ubuntuone-client is the newest one. What should I do now?
[12:35] <ikonia> JediMaster: it may, but I can't see or understand why it would
[12:35] <ciphergoth> bazhang: trying to create a lenny virtual machine on a karmic real machine
[12:35] <wgrant> BusMaster: Log out and in again.
[12:36] <William-Ubuntu> i run command : mail root .... but root don't get any mail
[12:36] <ikonia> JediMaster: you may want to try asking in #ubuntu-virt
[12:36] <JediMaster> ikonia, ok, thanks, I'll just image the server before the upgrade then, fingers crossed! ta for the help
[12:36] <BusMaster> wgrant, did that... ieven tried restarting my computer
[12:36] <testi> Is there a graphical multiseat management tool? For example a tool displaying all input devices plugged in (mouse, keyboard, webcam, joystick), output devices (monitors, sound cards) in a graph, whereas input devices can be mapped to sessions (N:1) and sessions can be mapped to output devices (N:M)? Use-Case, two users each with mouse and keyboard, both want to use the same monitor and different sessions running (split screen)
[12:36] <JediMaster> ikonia, ok will do, wasn't aware there was such a channel =)
[12:36] <wgrant> BusMaster: Does Update Manager show any updates?
[12:36] <edgy> Hi, if I used kdm instead of gdm, I got a message ubuntu is working in low-graphics mode
[12:36] <ikonia> JediMaster: may not be the best place for xen but with an ask
[12:37] <BusMaster> wgrant, yes..skype and skype-common
[12:37] <ikonia> JediMaster: "worth" an ask that should be
[12:37] <William-Ubuntu> Ok , another way, how can i mail to root ?
[12:37] <ngirard> Hi all. Using equivs-build I've built & installed a dummy package whose "provides" are beeing ignored by apt-get. Specifically, my texlive-dummy does provide, among others, tex-common ; and yet  apt-get install jadetex requires libosp5 openjade1.3 tex-common tipa to be installed... anu thoughts ?
[12:38] <wgrant> BusMaster: Are python-ubuntuone-client and python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol up to date?
[12:38] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: how are you trying to read root's mail
[12:38] <William-Ubuntu> user su to switch to root and   mail
[12:39] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: is there a root mail spool file ?
[12:39] <BusMaster> wgrant, python-ubuntuone-client           1.0.2-0ubuntu1 ; python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol  1.0.0-0ubuntu1. does that seem okay?
[12:39] <William-Ubuntu> yeah, /var/mail/root is
[12:39] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: ok - open that and see if it has your mail
[12:40] <BusMaster> wgrant, or should storageprotocol also be 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 ?
[12:40] <wgrant> BusMaster: -client should be -0ubuntu2
[12:40] <wgrant> BusMaster: Pastebin your sources.list.
[12:41] <William-Ubuntu> nothing, i can't mail anything to root, but the same way one other user works
[12:41] <wgrant> William-Ubuntu: /etc/aliases doesn't redirect root's mail to another user?
[12:41] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: so that file is zero bytes ?
[12:41] <ikonia> wgrant: nice spot
[12:42] <BusMaster> wgrant, http://pastebin.com/ddbfcd62
[12:42] <William-Ubuntu> not redirected , i just refresh install ubuntu,and i don't change things lot, it is zero bytes
[12:43] <BusMaster> wgrant, I'm running karmic which i upgraded from jaunty
[12:43] <wgrant> BusMaster: Eek. You don't have the security or critical updates repositories enabled.
[12:43] <wgrant> BusMaster: Try to enable them in System->Administration->Software Sources, and then run Update Manager again.
[12:43] <BusMaster> wgrant, *gulp* ok
[12:43] <William-Ubuntu>  mailer-daemon: postmaster  only this is not root, others are end with root
[12:44] <BusMaster> wgrant, i don't see a critical updates in Software Sources. Should I enable the "Important security updates" and "Recommended updates" ?
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> root@Ubuntu:~# mail root
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> Cc: test
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> Subject: test
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> test
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> .
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> root@Ubuntu:~# mail
[12:45] <FloodBot3> William-Ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <Spixx> bahah
[12:45] <Spixx> pastebin William-Ubuntu
[12:46] <AD3> Hi. I've just upgraded to 9.10 and the altgr key appears to have stopped functioning. i.e. before altgr+3 = #, now altgr acts like shift what should I look at to configure/correct this
[12:46] <BusMaster> wgrant, ooooh, 104 new updates. ubuntuone-client is one of them. I'm getting them..now lets see what happens
[12:46] <Spixx> check for keymap or km in HAL config :S
[12:47] <adac> After a restart my bash history is gone. What do I need to modify so that the history will be saved?
[12:47] <wgrant> BusMaster: That sounds a bit better.
[12:47] <PWR> AD3 maybe reinstall and choose different keyboard layout during install?
[12:47] <dutchbuntu> AD3: on a US keyboard: shift+3=#
[12:47] <chu__> Last time I ran the update my system died, think I should try again? 555 updates...
[12:47] <mataks> help pls.. i run this on terminal everytime i boot to have my external soundcard working .. modprobe snd-cmipci ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss
[12:47] <mataks> ...  how to make it auto load on boot..
[12:47] <dutchbuntu> AD3: whats your keyboard lay-out?
[12:48] <AD3> dutchbuntu: "spain" but it doestn't look to me like it really is
[12:48] <Anorien> Hello, could someone tell me why im getting permission denied when running as root for gvfs? du: cannot access `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[12:48] <dutchbuntu> chu__: when was the last time?
[12:48] <AD3> dutchbuntu: spain is the right keyboard layout
[12:48] <python_root1> !autorun
[12:48] <python_root1> !startup
[12:48] <mataks> help pls.. i run this on terminal everytime i boot to have my external soundcard working .. modprobe snd-cmipci ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss.. ...  how to make it auto load on boot....
[12:48] <chu__> Maybe a week ago?
[12:48] <nimrod0> !boot
[12:48] <dutchbuntu> AD3: and did you set up Ubuntu to use the Spanish keyboard lay-out?
[12:48] <python_root1> !boot  | mataks
[12:49] <mataks> !boot
[12:49] <dutchbuntu> chu__: karmic?
[12:49] <chu__> I'm running a vanilla Karmic beta here, if that makes any more sense.
[12:49] <dangerx89> ciao
[12:49] <dutchbuntu> chu__: why?
[12:49] <dangerx89> irc.abjects.net
[12:50] <dutchbuntu> chu__: Karmic is out of beta
[12:50] <dangerx89>  	#nonsolowii
[12:50] <chu__> I updated from jaunty when karmic hit beta, everything worked perfectly so I had high hopes for Karmic official, but everytime I update it, it does,
[12:50] <python_root1> dutchbuntu: karamic is still an intermediate
[12:50] <chu__> And, I haven't been able to find an ISO that works yet :p
[12:50] <chu__> I burnt 3 discs and they all died :/
[12:50] <AD3> dutchbuntu: before upgrade I was using a spainsh keyboard (np) and I didn't changing anything during upgrade. in system->preferences->keyboard it still says "spain"
[12:50] <Spixx> chu__: try slower speeds?
[12:50] <LjL> phyrrus: "karmic" is a what?
[12:50] <dutchbuntu> python_root1: what do you mean?
[12:51] <python_root1> chu__: sad
[12:51] <mataks> python_root,  im new to linux.. can you give me the complete command to make it load on startup.. please..
[12:51] <LjL> python_root1: "karmic" is a what?
[12:51] <PWR> AD3 does the Fn key exist on your keyboard?
[12:52] <AD3> PWR: no
[12:52] <AD3> PWR: dutchbuntu by deleting the existing selecitons, and adding "spain" again it seems to have self-rectified. bit weird
[12:52] <Anorien> Hello, could someone tell me why im getting permission denied when running as root for gvfs? du: cannot access `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[12:52] <dutchbuntu> chu__: do you want to do a fresh install or upgrade to Karmic?
[12:53] <wgrant> Anorien: ~/.gvfs is a magical virtual filesystem which only the owning user can see.
[12:53] <eberry> Hello.  I am having trouble with my clock time in Karmic.  Have I come to the right place to talk to experts and find a solution?
[12:53] <python_root1> mataks: sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[12:53] <wgrant> Anorien: it does not contain any useful data.
[12:53] <dutchbuntu> AD3: weird, yes. Glad you solved it, though.
[12:53] <python_root1> mataks : then add ur 4 lines'
[12:53] <jcrawford> good morning everyone
[12:53] <JuJuBee> I have a computer with 2 (DIMM Synchronous 533 MHz (1.9 ns))  is this DDR2 (PC4200)? I'm looking to add more RAM.
[12:53] <PWR> Then I don really know, but sometimes it helps to unlock Fn, or f.i. NumLock or AltGr in combination with Shift or Alt. Try some of those combinations.
[12:53] <BusMaster> wgrant, it works! whoop, whoop! Thanks :D
[12:53] <chu__> dutchbuntu: I'd do a fresh install if I could, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade really.
[12:54] <wgrant> BusMaster: Excellent!
[12:54] <dutchbuntu> chu__: did you download the ISO?
[12:54] <chu__> Unfortunately, I don't have any blank CDs with me here, I left a stack of 50 at my brother's house ... :p
[12:54] <PWR> AD3 I see so it´s allright now?
[12:54] <Anorien> ty wgrant
[12:54] <chu__> I have the ubuntu9.10-desktop-i386.ISO or whatever.
[12:54] <AD3> is there a none-interactive upgrade option/process btw? Not a fan of monologues blocking the process waiting for the user to click the only button
[12:55] <dutchbuntu> chu__: if you have an empty USB flash drive available (1Gb min), you can use that
[12:55] <JonathanEllis> I want to share files between two machines (both running Ubuntu). Is there any problem with sharing my whole home folder (/home/jonathan) or should I share the individual folders within that I need access to (/home/jonathan/Documents etc)?
[12:55] <eberry> My GNOME clock applet has the time as 14:55.  The time here (in Central Europe) is 1:55.  The GNOME applet's time zone seems to be correctly set.   Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[12:55] <python_root1> mataks: u there
[12:55] <dutchbuntu> chu__: did you md5sum the iso?
[12:55] <AD3> PWR: I think it was some how configured for US even though it said spain. yes.
[12:55] <chu__> Nope...
[12:55] <chu__> :p
[12:55] <Spixx> eberry: UTC or localtime :D?
[12:55] <dutchbuntu> chu__: you know what to do next then ;-)
[12:55] <DaDa|Urka> Why are remote evolution-calendars not shown in the gnome-clock applet????
[12:55] <PWR> AD3 right-o
[12:55] <knoxville_> hej johan
[12:55] <mataks> python_root1, yes.. im doing it now..
[12:55] <Spixx> otherwise you will get + 1 hour anyway :D
[12:56] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Do you have daylight saving time set?
[12:56] <python_root1> mataks: k
[12:56] <eberry> Spixx: Local time is 1:56.  UTC is 12:56.  The GNOME applet, which is configured to read local time, reads 2:56.
[12:56] <mataks> python_root1, one more thing.. i have to go to alsamixer to raise the volume to max again.. is there any way to configure it.. like don't need to raise the volumes again
[12:56] <eberry> JonathanEllis: How do I set daylight savings time?
[12:56] <chu__> The ISO I was trying to burn was only 490 MBs, no wonder it didn't work, I just re-downloaded it and it's 690 MBs.
[12:57] <python_root1> mataks: i am afraid i dont know that
[12:57] <PWR> =gone
[12:57] <dutchbuntu> chu__: that should help, yes. ;-)
[12:57] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Im just looking but I think |System|Administration|Time and date
[12:57] <mataks> python_root1, ok thnx a lot :)
[12:58] <DaDa|Urka> Why are remote evolution-calendars not shown in the gnome-clock applet????
[12:58] <patricidio> where are firefox config files located?
[12:58] <python_root1> mataks: welcome
[12:58] <patricidio> are they on ~/.mozilla/firefox/ ?
[12:58] <patricidio> I can't tell, cause I'm not using Ubuntu just now
[12:59] <chu__> Now I wish I had a blank CD :(
[12:59] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Time and Date in Karmic just asks you if you want to use NTP servers or not.  I am using NTP servers (pool.ntp.org), and I am using the Europe/Zurich time zone, which is correct
[12:59] <rsv> How to delete files which start with .
[12:59] <dutchbuntu> chu__: do you have a USB flash drive available? 1 Gb min
[12:59] <rsv> How to delete files which start with "."
[13:00] <zash> rsv: rm .blarg
[13:00] <eberry> rsv: the same way: rm .example
[13:00] <zash> rsv: or, in nautilus, press Ctrl+H
[13:00] <chu__> I have a 500gb external...
[13:00] <eberry> No one knows how to solve this time skew problem?
[13:00] <dutchbuntu> chu__: but it has to be empty...
[13:00] <rsv> i want to do it recursively
[13:01] <chu__> It has a backup of my current /home directory (~24 GBs)
[13:01] <eberry> My GNOME clock applet has the time as 14:55.  The time here (in Central Europe) is 1:55.  The GNOME applet's time zone seems to be correctly set.   Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[13:02] <python_root> eberry: check ur system time buddy
[13:02] <eberry> python_root: how do I do that? date -u?
[13:02] <ciphergoth> eberry: go to "Time and Date" settings under System > Admiistratin
[13:02] <Take0n> is there a way to hide a specific window from taskbar or force to notification aera even if it doesn't support it?
[13:03] <ciphergoth> and select Configuration: Keep synchronized with Internet servers
[13:03] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Just looking for daylight saving time. Havent found it yet. As a side issue I suggest you edit your ntp.conf to include three time servers 0.ch.pool.ntp.org, 1.ch.pool.ntp.org and 2.ch.pool.ntp.org That way your ntp time will be more reliable (in case one of the servers fail) and you are getting time from a more local source so there will be less jitter.
[13:03] <dutchbuntu> chu__: than make a quick trip to the nearest store to buy a CDR
[13:04] <ciphergoth> JonathanEllis: I think it's preferable to recommend using the GUI tools
[13:04] <chu__> I can live with beta until then :p
[13:04] <chu__> Anyway, cheers.
[13:04] <eberry> cipher_goth: I'm not sure what you want me to do there.  There's no way to "check system time" in Time and Date
[13:04] <dutchbuntu> chu__: gl
[13:04] <ciphergoth> eberry: what revision of Ubuntu are you using/
[13:04] <eberry> JonathanEllis: I can do that, but how do I update my time?
[13:04] <eberry> ciphergoth: Karmic
[13:05] <ciphergoth> OK.  In time and date, click on the keys to unlock
[13:05] <eberry> ciphergoth: done
[13:05] <ciphergoth> eberry: What's under "Configuration"
[13:05] <Mwa> How do I control the screen brightness on my netbook? The brighter/darker keys do nothing and I can barely see the screen with the sun where it is
[13:06] <ciphergoth> eberry: I have a top line that says "Time zone: Europe/London" and a second line that used to say "Configuration: Manual"
[13:06] <eberry> ciphergoth: Time Zone: Europe/Zurich, Configuration: Keep synchronized with Internet servers
[13:07] <ciphergoth> OK, excellent.  Click on "Select servers"
[13:07] <eberry> ciphergoth: ok
[13:07] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Here is something that might help with DST http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150472. To change your system time, go to |System|Administration|Time and date and change it manually there. I was thinking there was a conflict with your system time and local time but I see the time difference is in the wrong direction. Do you know if ntp is actually changing your time?
[13:07] <ciphergoth> and select some servers that are near you
[13:07] <vermapratyush_> how do i open grub2 prompt in ubuntu 9.10
[13:07] <vermapratyush_> ??
[13:07] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: do you dual boot?
[13:07] <eberry> ciphergoth: I've already done this.  It doesn't seem to do anything.
[13:07] <eberry> ciphergoth: Even after reboot, my time is still wrong.
[13:08] <ciphergoth> hurm, I wonder if ntp is having trouble reaching the servers you added?
[13:08] <incorrect> hi, can anyone suggest a VPS provider in japan that provides ubuntu 9.10?
[13:08] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, i want to restore grub ??
[13:08] <nordhri> does anyone have experience with dosbox?
[13:08] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Thanks, but I don't want to manually set the time and get it wrong.  I want the NTP servers to set it for me.
[13:08] <dutchbuntu> !grub2 | vermapratyush_
[13:08] <eberry> ciphergoth: possible?  How would I know?
[13:08] <ciphergoth> eberry: from the command line try something like ntpdate -d <serveR>
[13:09] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, windows erased my gtrub
[13:09] <vermapratyush_> *grub
[13:09] <eberry> ciphergoth: I get a stream of output
[13:09] <eberry> ciphergoth: looks ok
[13:09] <ciphergoth> what does it say your "offset" is?
[13:09] <eberry> ciphergoth: I am using pool.ntp.org
[13:09] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Fair enough but ntp waits a long time before it steps the clock if you are more than a few seconds out. Its usually easier to set the clock manually and then set ntp to keep the clock correct
[13:10] <eberry> ciphergoth: Local time is actually 2:10pm
[13:10] <genti> hi everyone
[13:10] <ciphergoth> eberry: The last line of my ntpdate -d output is "16 Nov 13:09:32 ntpdate[28508]: adjust time server 82.219.4.31 offset 0.120933 sec"
[13:10] <eberry> ciphergoth: UTC is actually 1:10pm
[13:10] <ciphergoth> what's your last line?
[13:10] <genti> can somebody help me on sharing some files on samba on Xubuntu pls
[13:10] <ciphergoth> eberry: I know, I'm on UTC right now
[13:10] <eberry> ciphergoth: 16 Oct 15:09:15 ntpdate[3511]: step time server 192.33.214.57 offset 2678399.673552 sec
[13:10] <python_root> vermapratyush_: put ur live cd type - sudo grub  - root (hd0,0)      - setup (hd0)   - quit    - exit
[13:10] <dutchbuntu> !ask | genti
[13:11] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Do you know how to get it to sync?
[13:11] <ciphergoth> eberry: then I think JonathanEllis has it
[13:11] <ciphergoth> eberry: you need to sync by hand because ntp doesn't like to make big changes to your clock
[13:11] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Also, I can't see the manual setting you're talking about in Time & Date
[13:11] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, iam unable to open grub prompt ?? what is the command to open grub2 prompt
[13:11] <python_root> awere hdo is ur address
[13:11] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Er. I have done a lot of work with ntp but it was some years ago so bear with me if my memory is slow
[13:11] <dutchbuntu> !grub2 | vermapratyush_
[13:11] <ciphergoth> eberry: switch back to configuration: Manual
[13:11] <ciphergoth> change the time to be about right
[13:11] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Not at all! Any expertise is greatly appreciated.
[13:12] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, is not working
[13:12] <ciphergoth> and the date
[13:12] <ciphergoth> then switch back and let NTP do the rest
[13:12] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: what is not working? the link works here.
[13:12] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Set the configuration to manual and then input the time manually. Once you have it approximately right, switch back
[13:13] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, when i type "grub2" in shell it does not open the grub prompt
[13:13] <genti> i have xubuntu and im trying to share some files over my home network. other computers are using windows. it did work before but yesterday i made an update of samba so its not working anymore
[13:13] <JonathanEllis> eberry: I am just going to setup ntp on my machine now as I did a fresh install not long ago
[13:13] <bazhang> vermapratyush_, what are you trying to do
[13:13] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: follow this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[13:14] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: chapter 7 should help you
[13:14] <ciphergoth> eberry: btw, thanks for raising this, turned out mine used to be set to "manual", glad to hav fixed it
[13:14] <eberry> JonathanEllis & ciphergoth: I can't get the changes to commit in "manual" mode
[13:14] <JonathanEllis> eberry: What did you set the time to in manual mode?
[13:14] <ralchev> yesterday I installed ubuntu 9.10, but I have no sound :S and there are no hardware devices in System > Preferences > Sound ... any ideas ??
[13:14] <eberry> 14:14:55
[13:15] <ciphergoth> your date is wrong too btw
[13:15] <genti> i have xubuntu and im trying to share some files over my home network. other computers are using windows. it did work before but yesterday i made an update of samba so its not working anymore. any suggestion how to share these files again?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:15] <eberry> ciphergoth: My date is wrong?
[13:15] <ciphergoth> it's 31 days out
[13:15] <eberry> ciphergoth: that's a time (hours, minutes, seconds) not a date
[13:15] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Then what happens. Sorry I am in a different time zone to you so I cant easily mirror what you are doing
[13:15] <ciphergoth> 16 Oct 15:09:15 ntpdate[3511]: step time server 192.33.214.57 offset 2678399.673552 sec
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> 16th November 2009 here (GMT)
[13:16] <ciphergoth> note oct not lov
[13:16] <ciphergoth> and the offset is almost exactly 31 days
[13:16] <eberry> ciphergoth: I see now
[13:16] <eberry> ciphergoth: This is really horrible
[13:17] <eberry> JonathanEllis: All of the fields (time and date) are modifiable, but there is no "OK" button to commit the changes
[13:17] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I enable imap extension in php?
[13:17] <pll8020> mac_v: hello. do you know much about macbooks ??
[13:17] <dutchbuntu> eberry: I would use a different NTP server if I were you (ntp.ubuntu.com for example). Seems like something is wrong with Swiss NTP server...
[13:18] <ciphergoth> eberry: OK, try from the command line
[13:18] <JonathanEllis> eberry: No OK button on mine. It changes immediately if you look at your clock
[13:18] <ciphergoth> duchbuntu: what's the address of the faulty one?
[13:18] <jongbergs> ralchev: can you post the output of command lspci -v?
[13:18] <kostkon> ralchev, give in a terminal : lspci | grep audio
[13:18] <eberry> dutchbuntu: I am using pool.ntp.org, on the advice of another IRC expert from earlier today
[13:18] <KaiForce> what is up with NickServ
[13:18] <KaiForce> or down
[13:18] <ciphergoth> pool is a good choice
[13:18] <mac_v> pll8020: nope.. need to change my nick i guess ;)
[13:18] <jongbergs> ralchev: copy and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <dutchbuntu> eberry: okay
[13:18] <ciphergoth> sudo date --set
[13:18] <pll8020> mac_v yes
[13:18] <DawnLight> hello. what tools can help me to make a local repository. i'd like one in my flash drive. i'd like to have all the security and -updates there
[13:18] <ralchev> jongbergs, in a second
[13:19] <python_root> Guys my program is in futex_wait and dosent come out what shall i do
[13:19] <KaiForce> is there a utility for switching between RDP sessions quickly?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> DawnLight: could use aptoncd
[13:19] <ciphergoth> eberry:  see "man date"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> !aptoncd | DawnLight
[13:19] <mac_v> pll8020: hehe , me thinks apple should change their branding ;p
[13:19] <genti> any suggestion on how to share files on Xubuntu?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> genti: samba
[13:19] <DawnLight> thanks ActionParsnip1
[13:19] <JonathanEllis> eberry: dutchbuntu: The pool servers are random servers - you get a different one each time. That minimizes load on individual servers by distributing users randomly across servers
[13:19] <chu__> !welcome < chu__
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> chu__: other way dude
[13:20] <python_root> !walcome
[13:20] <JonathanEllis> eberry: The reason for having three servers is then ntp can see if one of them breaks because two will still agree
[13:20] <dutchbuntu> JonathanEllis: okay, I didn't know that. Thanx 4 sharing :-)
[13:20] <ralchev> jongbergs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/320000/
[13:20] <pll8020> mac_v: lol :P maybe.. my macbook is not powering off when i shutdown.. :S think it's a driver problem :P damn
[13:20] <chu__> !welcome  chu__
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> !welcome > chu__
[13:20] <fasta> How can I get hibernation to work? I have a swap partition of ridiculous size already (9GB) to be sure that it is large enough. How do I convince Ubuntu that I have a swap partition?
[13:20] <chu__> hah, thanks
[13:20] <genti> im using samba but since i updated it its not sharing anymore
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> fasta: sudo swapon /dev/partition_name_here
[13:20] <eberry> I was able to change my time by right-clicking on the GNOME applet and clicking on "preferences"
[13:20] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, already did that.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> genti: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[13:21] <jongbergs> ralchev: ok examining..
[13:21] <eberry> This changed the system time
[13:21] <JonathanEllis> eberry: As soon as I change the time manually it updates after a few seconds in the clock in the panel at the top of the screen. I dont have to press a button to make it happen
[13:21] <KaiForce> is nickserv down?
[13:21]  * Soyo has no dns service :( man interfaces does not seem to say how to add a dns entry
[13:21] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, after I reboot that shouldn't be needed, right? I have an entry in fstab.
[13:21] <eberry> But I still have too great a clock skew to get a kerberos ticket (what I'm trying to do in the first place)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: add the nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf
[13:21] <mac_v> ActionParsnip1: hi ... hmm , know have you heard about conky not displaying in gnome3? or something of the sort
[13:21] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, really, I think it is just broken.
[13:21] <kostkon> ralchev, it seems to be new hardware. w8, i would like to recommend you to install something
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> mac_v: i use neither, sorry
[13:21] <JonathanEllis> eberry: If you bear with me, I will set my time to swiss time along with you. Can you do the same things as I do them and let me know the outcome?
[13:21] <ralchev> ok thanks
[13:21] <Soyo> thanks
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> fasta: log a bug then
[13:22] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Yes, sorry for falling behind
[13:22] <mac_v> ActionParsnip1: ah.. np.. thanks ;)
[13:22] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, yes, was already doing that.
[13:22] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Its difficult to follow when several people are helping at once
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: you can even run a local dns to speed up web access
[13:22] <genti> hey thank u very much
[13:22] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Ready when you are
[13:22] <genti> it worked
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> genti: looks like it wasnt started or got stuck
[13:22] <python_root> ***Soyo : sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: gksudo gedit ;)
[13:22] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Time zone is set to zurich?
[13:23] <genti> yes thanks :)
[13:23] <kostkon> ralchev, could you install this package:  "linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic" and then reboot?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> genti: i'd try a reboot to make sure it comes up from cold
[13:23] <python_root> ActionParsnip1 not necessary
[13:23] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Administration > Time and Date > Time Zone = "Europe/Zurich"
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: gets users used to using the correct sudo app.
[13:23] <ralchev> kostkon, ok i'll do it quick
[13:23] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Can we take this into a private chat to avoid flooding the room - unless anyone else objects? If there is something we discover we will post it in the main room
[13:23] <genti> ActionParsnip1: I did a restart of samba and it worked. thank you
[13:24] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Fine by me
[13:24] <python_root> ActionParsnip1: whats the difference
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: in most cases its necessary so starting right will save issues later
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> !gksudo | python_root
[13:24] <CyberJack77> I want to reinstall my system (from 8.10 to 9.10). My system contains a 3 disk LVM for storage and a separate disk for the system and home. What steps to I need to take to gain access to my LVM after installing without losing data?
[13:24] <Soyo> Does running my own dns require having a large amount of space though?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: if you don't know the difference, how can you say its "not necessary"?
[13:24] <jongbergs> ralchev: from the output it seems that no sound drivers has been loaded , you may follow kostkon's suggestion
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: no, its very small
[13:24] <python_root> Soyo : not at al
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: means name to ip resolution will take 0ms, multiply that by all the times you use DNS and its quite a saving
[13:25] <ralchev> jongbergs, ok ill do it right now, yes ubuntu doesnt show hardware devices in System > preferences > sound
[13:25] <Soyo> Sounds like it!
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntugeek.com%2Flocal-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing-on-ubuntu-machine.html&ei=0VIBS4e0GcffnAfP08iVCw&usg=AFQjCNERy-gdl-XesEc3fldB9QdnTlwsPQ
[13:25] <JediMaster> ikonia, I've just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 without any problems, and have just finished do-release-upgrade on 9.04 to karmic/9.10, I've just noticed that when the kernel gets installed grub's update scripts say: "Ignoring non-Xen Kernel on Xen domU host: vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-server"
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> i hate google
[13:25] <FloodBot3> ActionParsnip1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <ikonia> JediMaster: ooh, that's interesting
[13:26] <Anorien> hi. could someone please give me some good documentation on how to install LAMP on ubuntu 9.10? ty
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: you will need web based DNS too to get the IPs so your local dNS can learn
[13:26] <kleftisx> hello, i have just installed Ubuntu 9.10 (64bit), i have log on and update using recommended updates. After i restart the system...ubuntu seems to load (ubuntu icon) and just a black screen with the keyboard not working or mouse. just black screen. any ideas what caused that problem?
[13:26] <jongbergs> ralchev: you could also test if the live cd will be able to detect your sound device.
[13:26] <dAnon1> networking DOESN'T WORK in 9.10 what the...? Can't view other computers (windows machines) neither print through network
[13:26] <JediMaster> ikonia, any ideas what it means? =) isn't the domU the host server (rather than the VM?)
[13:26] <ralchev> jongbergs, ok , if this doesnt work
[13:26] <ralchev> im rebooting
[13:26] <ikonia> JediMaster: correct
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: can you ping names or IPs of the other systems?
[13:26] <dAnon1> why do people always have to screw things up with new version
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: lose the emotional stuff, its not helping anything
[13:27] <dAnon1> I see them in the places
[13:27] <areay> hi everyone... i think i'm logged in somewhere else on my network through NIS... how can i tell which machine i'm logged into?
[13:27] <dAnon1> but can't browse machines
[13:27] <dutchbuntu> Anorien: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[13:27] <ikonia> JediMaster: seems to suggest it's not running on a xen box, but as you said, it is
[13:27] <dAnon1> see computer names
[13:27] <dAnon1> but can't browse any of them
[13:27] <ikonia> areay: close your terminals
[13:27] <dAnon1> and I can't add a printer
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: does your ubuntu username exist on the other systems and have suitable access?
[13:28] <JediMaster> ikonia, I've been told it is (I don't have control over domU)
[13:28] <dAnon1> dunno I don't care for it atm
[13:28] <ikonia> JediMaster: ooh really, you're not %100 certain though
[13:28] <dAnon1> I want to have my computer able to view other computers
[13:28] <adi1> hi all. anyone from belgium here?
[13:28] <areay> ikonia, how do i view/close current terminal sessions?
[13:28] <ikonia> areay: type "exit" in it
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: you most likely have a workgroup so must maintain usernames manually, make sure the matching ubuntu username and password are on the systems you need access to and make sure they have correct access
[13:29] <DawnLight> i don't like aptoncd. is there a cli tool, please?
[13:29] <JediMaster> ikonia, 99% certain it is, all the kernels before have come pre-installed as -xen and I have been told before it was
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: i know thats what we are aiming at, typing pointless whiny stuff doesnt add ny value to the flow
[13:29] <Soyo> how do I reset the resolv.conf? ifconfig down up?
[13:29] <ikonia> JediMaster: I have seen something similar a long time ago on ubuntu 6.06 hosts thinking about it, where the people supplying the xen host where not using %100 official ubuntu images, so when they upgraded the stock ubuntu install caused pain
[13:29] <dAnon1> I edited some files and added my name and workgroup nothing happens
[13:29] <ikonia> Soyo: it's a flat file, /etc/resolv.conf
[13:29] <Soyo> oh ok
[13:29] <jongbergs> Soyo: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:30] <areay> ikonia, my problem is there's 30 computers here, and i'm logged into 2 of them... i wanted to know if there was an easy way of seeing the ip address or hostname of the computers i'm logged into
[13:30] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 neither does changing working stuff from 9.04 for not working in 9.10
[13:30] <ikonia> areay: not through nis, no
[13:30] <JediMaster> ikonia, yeah they've had a few minor changes, but it's upgraded 8.04->8.10->9.04 fine
[13:30] <dAnon1> how not to get angry
[13:30] <python_root>  Soyo : restart ur network
[13:30] <ikonia> JediMaster: doesn't mean it will go all the way
[13:30] <ralchev> jongbergs, kostkon , thanks for the help! this package worked ;)
[13:30] <ikonia> dAnon1: you know this is ubuntu support, please stick tot hat topic
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: add these lines to the file: nameserver 208.67.222.222      and      nameserver 208.67.220.220
[13:30] <kostkon> ralchev, ;)
[13:30] <ikonia> JediMaster: that's the only similar thing I can think of
[13:30] <om26er> !test
[13:30] <Anorien> dutchbuntu:  ty. one more thing: would be better to install them on by one, or the whole package at once?
[13:30] <dAnon1> I don't see how am I not talking about Ubuntu ikonia
[13:31] <jongbergs> ralchev: good to hear :)
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: well you have 9.10 now so you have to deal with the situation. Do youwant my help or are yu just going to moan?
[13:31] <dAnon1> reread ikonia
[13:31] <JediMaster> ikonia, I've not rebooted yet, so still have some use of the machine, do I need to find a -xen kernel for it?
[13:31] <dutchbuntu> Anorien: I'd follow the tasksel option
[13:31] <JediMaster> ikonia, as far as I could see the -virtual linux image didn't install a -xen kernel
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: you should then restart networking and the settings wil be in place
[13:31] <Anorien> dutchbuntu: thank you
[13:31] <ikonia> JediMaster: I don't think there is a -xen kernel any more (not %100 certain on that though )
[13:31] <Soyo> actually I did not need to restart networking to get it to work
[13:32] <ikonia> JediMaster: if you do a search do you see a xen kernel ?
[13:32] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 of course I want your help sorry if I offended you or something
[13:32] <dutchbuntu> Anorien: pleasure
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: cool, good enough for me, if you use the guide I pasted you can install dnsmasq and have your own local dns
[13:32] <zippy> how can low-graphic-mode-message on start-up be avoided?
[13:32] <python_root> Guys i need help with futex_wait
[13:32] <LuciusMare> Hello
[13:32] <PaulieWalnuts> hi
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: then quit with the "why is this broken" "why is stuff breaking with upgrades" stuff, its really boring and helps no one, in fact it slows things down
[13:33] <LuciusMare> If i doubleclick on a music file,winamp associated is launched instead of mplayer...Where do I change these associations?
[13:33] <JediMaster> ikonia, in apt-cache?
[13:33] <songe> anyone got problems with microsoft cams?
[13:33] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 When I try to browse network machines I get timed out with an error message
[13:33] <songe> http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8288/20091115151027.jpg
[13:33] <areay> ikonia, really? there's not even logs or anything?
[13:33] <ikonia> JediMaster: yup
[13:33] <songe> my output is like that
[13:33] <python_root> ActionParsnip1 : my applications go to futex_wait how do i make it work again
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: ok, can you ping their names and IPs
[13:33] <ikonia> areay: no
[13:33] <songe> anyone check it out. pls. help.
[13:33] <jcrawford> hey guys i have dual displays setup on Ubuntu 9.10 and when I open Open Office the loading splash screen is centerd on both screens meaning 1/2 is on the right of my left screen and 1/2 is on the left of my right screen.  Is there any way to get it to know there are 2 displays and which is my primary?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: never heard of that one
[13:33] <PaulieWalnuts> i installed ubuntu 9.10 to another partition trough unetbootin (using a iso on my c: partition). everything went fine, it installed i selected to install grub to /dev/sda. i have grub installed to mbr but it doesnt see the ubuntu install and i cant boot it
[13:34] <Soyo> I am reading the dnsmasq page now, thanks Action
[13:34] <IHS_Volunteer> well, that was a fun vacation. Now back to work.
[13:34] <ikonia> jcrawford: most applications are dual head aware, some are not, and some video cards / drivers cause it to be a problem
[13:34] <legend2440> LuciusMare: right click the music file choose properties<open with
[13:34] <python_root> ActionParsnip1 : k
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: its all good
[13:34] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 when I tried to ping my brothers computer it returned "PING wypas.208.67.220.220 (67.215.65.132) 56(84) bytes of data."
[13:34] <dAnon1> why does it return OpenDNS adres
[13:35] <python_root> IHS_Volunteer: I have prob with my application going to futex_wait state how do i make them work back
[13:35] <areay> ikonia, maybe i need to consider replacing nis with something else then... i can see this becoming a problem... (i'm running firefox logged in somewhere else, which means i can't run it here)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: are you using opendns dns servers?
[13:35] <dAnon1> yep
[13:35] <ikonia> areay: what ?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: did you add your routers IP as the first DNS server?
[13:35] <ikonia> areay: running firefox on a remote machine shouldn't stop you running it locally
[13:35] <dAnon1> no I didn't
[13:35] <JediMaster> ikonia, no, only -virtual and -ec2
[13:35] <PaulieWalnuts> i installed ubuntu 9.10 to another partition trough unetbootin (using a iso on my c: partition). everything went fine, it installed i selected to install grub to /dev/sda. i have grub installed to mbr but it doesnt see the ubuntu install and i cant boot it
[13:36] <ikonia> JediMaster: as I suspected
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: then your systems only have opendns to resolve the other PCs name to an IP, so its failing
[13:36] <areay> ikonia, i'm sharing my home directory across the LAN... firefox's settings are all stored there so i get "firefox is already running, please kill it and try again" errors
[13:36] <areay> ...with nfs
[13:36] <ikonia> areay: ok , so just remove the lock file
[13:36] <Anorien> dutchbuntu: im getting this when running tasksel. tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: if you add your routers internal IP as a DNS server it should resolve the name, you can also bypass this and have an entry in /etc/hosts which can also resolve the name 9and faster as its local)
[13:37] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: did you install Ubuntu on the same partition in which unetbootin boot files is located?
[13:37] <areay> ikonia, good idea i was getting tired of epiphany... any ideas where i can find it?
[13:37] <ikonia> areay: that could also mean you're not running in any other machines but you do have a stale lock file
[13:37] <areay> ah
[13:37] <areay> yeah i just assumed i was logged in elsewhere
[13:37] <ikonia> areay: $home/.mozzila I think it's in
[13:37] <Mud> o rly?
[13:38] <areay> ikonia, thanks dude]
[13:38] <JediMaster> ikonia, hmm I've removed all the kernels and installed linux-image-virtual and it still says that it's ignoring the non-xen kernel when update-grub runs
[13:38] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs : i installed it to a separate ext4 partition. my hd setup is : sda1 (Windows 7 System Reserved boot partition) sda2 (Drive C:) sda3 (ext4 / ubuntu) sda4 (swap for ubuntu). selected install grub to sda during install. i have grub in mbr already and i can boot windows 7 but not ubuntu
[13:38] <ikonia> JediMaster: I wonder if the problem is actually with your host rather than your guest
[13:38] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 added router ip to ipv4 dns section
[13:38] <LuciusMare> legend2440: that works only once
[13:38] <python_root> C:)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: in retrospect now, the upgrade hasnt damaged stuff, its poor user configuration
[13:38] <JediMaster> ikonia, think I could get away with installing the old kernel?
[13:38] <ikonia> JediMaster: very doubtful
[13:38] <python_root> c:)
[13:39] <LuciusMare> oh
[13:39] <LuciusMare> nvm
[13:39] <legend2440> LuciusMare: what is the file  a mp3?
[13:39] <LuciusMare> But how to set it for every multimedia file and globally?
[13:39] <LuciusMare> legend2440: it worked
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> ok, now try pinging by name again
[13:39] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: what error have you encountered when attempting to boot in ubuntu?
[13:39] <om26er_> !uds
[13:39] <om26er_> !test
[13:39] <legend2440> LuciusMare: ok
[13:39] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 it still times out
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: ty pinging by name again, if not, try by IP
[13:40] <dAnon1> returned OpenDNS again why?
[13:40] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs : no error, as the ubuntu boot entries do not appera in the grub menu. everything i can get is a unetbootin boot menu that appears after selecting Windows 7 (loader) from GRUB main menu. on GRUB main menu when the pc boots i have : Memory Test and Windows 7 (loader)
[13:40] <dAnon1> typed name
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: try the IP, you can find that out by physically attending the system
[13:41] <dAnon1> asked my bro
[13:41] <areay> ikonia, i deleted the lock file, but it's still giving me the same error.. is it safe to remove the entire .mozilla directory?
[13:41] <ikonia> areay: no
[13:42] <robertf> Hello
[13:42] <ikonia> areay: which file did you remove ?
[13:42] <grawity> areay: You'd lose all your bookmarks and other things if you removed ~/.mozilla
[13:42] <areay> ikonia, ~/.mozilla/firefox/lock
[13:42] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 pinging does fine but the ping is horrible 300-400
[13:42] <robertf> I installed ubuntu from the command line install, why is not possible to install xfce with apt?
[13:42] <areay> grawity, ah thanks lol
[13:42] <ikonia> areay: do a "ps -ef | grep firefox" see if it's running on your current machine
[13:42] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 about 300
[13:42] <areay> ikonia, k
[13:42] <Anorien> anyone know why tasksel fails? tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[13:42] <ikonia> robertf: it is
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: is it over your network, or is it over the web?
[13:42] <dAnon1> my network
[13:42] <grawity> robertf: Would you care to tell us the exact error messages you get (if any)?
[13:43] <VirusTB> hi
[13:43] <VirusTB> wassup guys
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: wireless?
[13:43] <jongbergs> Anorien: try sudo tasksel and select tasks from there
[13:43] <Guest51612> test
[13:43] <ikonia> Guest51612: it worked
[13:43] <dAnon1> I am pinging a wired machine
[13:43] <robertf> grawity> i only use main in sources.list. If i type apt-get install xfce.. the package doesn't exist
[13:43] <Guest51612> :)
[13:43] <Anorien> jongbergs: i did, it opens for a few seconds, then it closes with tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[13:43] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs : any idea?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: do pings from the wired machine to the routers internal IP run ok?
[13:44] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: ok, you managed to install karmic without using CD
[13:44] <grawity> !info xfce
[13:44] <legend2440> robertf: open system>admin>software sources enable univers
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> !info xfce4
[13:44] <grawity> robertf: Well, the package indeed does not exist.
[13:44] <ikonia> grawity: xubuntu-desktop ?
[13:44] <robertf> grawity> i installed intrepid
[13:44] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs : yes now only to boot it
[13:44] <vsMS> Hi! can someome help me with a system-connection in networkmanager in karmic?
[13:44] <robertf> !info xfce4
[13:44] <dAnon1> yep
[13:44] <areay> ikonia, nope, not running on my machine
[13:44] <PaulieWalnuts> i could chroot into the install and sort grub out right?
[13:44] <grawity> robertf: Same thing. It's either xfce4 (Xfce only) or xubuntu-desktop (Xfce + Xubuntu artwork/things)
[13:44] <ikonia> areay: fuser /home/$user/.mozilla
[13:45] <Infin1ty> Is it just me having problems with Java?! going to websites with java and firefox causes firefox to stuck
[13:45] <Infin1ty> this has never happened in 9.04
[13:45] <jasonmchristos> does flac ripping with rhythmbox really make perfect copies i think i hear distortion
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: is the internet access via your system fast?
[13:45] <robertf> grawity> i'll try xubuntu-desktop instead xfce or xfce4, ok?
[13:45] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: yes, you can chroot and re-install grub from there
[13:45] <vsMS> i have configured a 3g connection as user. when changing to "available to all users" the connection cannot be dial up
[13:45] <jongbergs> Anorien: try sudo apt-get update
[13:46] <jongbergs> Anorien: then run tasksel again
[13:46] <robertf> i'd like to install slackware & ubuntu in dual boot
[13:46] <areay> ikonia, no output from that one
[13:46] <beachboysbd> hola a todos
[13:46] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: if its ok then i have no idea, if its also slow then looks like the driver / config did not make the upgrade and you should remove the config then reinstate
[13:46] <ikonia> areay: Hmmm,
[13:46] <beachboysbd> Por favor, alguien sabe donde está el irc openbravo
[13:46] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: i got a meeting now so will bbl
[13:46] <grawity> robertf: Both xfce4 and xubuntu-desktop are okay - I think xubuntu just installs some additional software.
[13:46] <putrycy> Hi! I'm newbie. I'm looking for a way to install development libraries. Could somebody tell me how to install for example crypto++ library? It seems not to appear in applications center (installation center? - I don't have an English version)...
[13:47] <putrycy> thanks in advance
[13:47] <PMantis> What is "System->Preferences->About Me" for?  Link to LDAP record? Link to Evolution? I haven't been able to confirm any of my ideas for what it's used for...
[13:47] <robertf> grawity> i don't find xfce4 in intrepid (main, sources.list)
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> putrycy:  look using synaptic or the command line tools
[13:47] <pwnlord> hey all
[13:47] <robertf> !help
[13:47] <legend2440> robertf: open system>admin>software sources enable universe repo
[13:47] <Igor_Bib> hi
[13:47] <pwnlord> can any1 tell me exactly what this means: ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12
[13:47] <pwnlord> ?
[13:47] <tsimpson> putrycy: install libcrypto++-dev
[13:47] <kostkon> !es | beachboysbd
[13:47] <xxthink> How to add comments in a patch file?
[13:47] <JediMaster> ikonia, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/base/linux-image-2.6.24-23-xen is the package that is installed and working on Jaunty, but it gets removed on the Karmic upgrade
[13:48] <pwnlord> can any1 tell me exactly what this means: ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12
[13:48] <tsimpson> putrycy: all library packages start with "lib" and all development packages end with "-dev"
[13:48] <robertf> legend2440> why xfce4 is not in main. Universe is not supported by the team
[13:48] <putrycy> Dr_Willis, thanks
[13:48] <xxthink> How to add comments in a patch file?
[13:48] <ikonia> JediMaster: yeah, that seems about right
[13:48] <pwnlord> ?
[13:48] <pwnlord> i'm lagging quite a bit
[13:48] <pwnlord> i'm trying to connect to a wireless netword
[13:48] <robertf> i prefer to only use "main" because it is supported by the team
[13:48] <legend2440> robertf: dont know  thats where they put it
[13:48] <putrycy> tanks a lot
[13:48] <ikonia> areay: that's most odd, just thinking if there is any trick to find out if you're account is logged in anywhere
[13:48] <grawity> !info xubuntu-desktop
[13:49] <jongbergs> pwnlord: are you attempting to install ndiswrapper?
[13:49] <grawity> robertf: According to the above, all of Xfce is in 'universe'.
[13:49] <kaz2057> qualkuno usa fvwm-crystal?
[13:49] <areay> ikonia, yplistloginsessions?
[13:49] <areay> heh
[13:49] <robertf> grawity> if i understand, universe is not supported by the team?
[13:50] <robertf> sorry if i make mistakes in english, it's not my native language
[13:50] <tsimpson> universe is not commercially supported
[13:50] <ikonia> areay: try it, I don't think that works like that
[13:50] <grawity> robertf: It should be - at least all of Xubuntu is supported.
[13:50] <JediMaster> ikonia, meh, just going to wget it and dpkg -i it and hold my breath and reboot
[13:50] <ikonia> JediMaster: I'll put money on fail, but certainly worth trying if you feel nowhere else to go
[13:51] <Anorien> jongbergs: it still fails, and i tried 3 times already
[13:51] <Anorien> im trying to install the lamp-server
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> !lamp
[13:52] <JediMaster> ikonia, no error after uninstalling the -virtual and installing the -xen from the update-grub script, so going to install the modules too and reboot
[13:52] <jongbergs> Anorien: is output of apt-get update ok?
[13:52] <robertf> what does it mean "Warning: The initial RAM disk is too big to fit between the kernel and   the 15M-16M memory hole."
[13:52] <putrycy> One more question: I would like to compile aMule (I'm going to tamper with it's sources so I don't want to install it using distribution package). Is it possible to (typing some caommand?) download all sources needed to build aMule? I come from FreeBSD where ports system has such as a functionality. That's why I'm asking
[13:52] <robertf> i often get this message if i've a dual boot
[13:52] <kaz2057> anyone use fvwm-crystal?
[13:53] <dutchbuntu> putrycy: install build-essential
[13:53] <Anorien> jongbergs: output ok, yes
[13:53] <DemonShey> hi
[13:53] <DemonShey> :)
[13:53] <dutchbuntu> putrycy: then download sources, extract and compile
[13:54] <obg_> Hi, as a desktop user, what software is my best bet for real-time backups (i.e. periodic back-ups with the system up and running)?
[13:54] <VirusTB> no in ein #iphone chat ro9om :(
[13:54] <VirusTB> one in*
[13:54] <putrycy> dutchbuntu, but it requires dosen of related libs...
[13:55] <jongbergs> Anorien: ok try using synaptic > edit > mark packages by task, and select LAMP from the list..let's see if it works out
[13:55] <dutchbuntu> putrycy: what does? build-essential? Thats normal, install everything
[13:55] <areay> ikonia, nah i was bein sarcastic... there's no command like that... nis is used a lot tho i would think there was a way of managing logged in users... from a security perspective if there's no way of listing logged in users/hosts or logging login attempts it's pretty bad
[13:55] <xxthink> How to add comments in a patch file?
[13:55] <pongo> hello guys , im just installing ubuntu on my notebook here and im struggling to understand how the "partitioning" is done so that there is no data loss .  Great thing there is this support chat , but who to ask exactly???
[13:55] <dutchbuntu> xxthink: two hyphens
[13:55] <JediMaster> ikonia, ok, so I think I take it back, it's not the kernel...
[13:55] <kleftisx> hello, i have just installed Ubuntu 9.10 (64bit), i have log on and update using recommended updates. After i restart the system...ubuntu seems to load (ubuntu icon) and got  black screen. maybe a problem of fglrx driver? im using ati hd4890. any ideas?
[13:56] <JediMaster> ikonia same error at the console: mountall:/proc: unable to mount: Device or resource busy
[13:56] <legend2440> robertf: according to this it may be a slackware problem  http://nil-techno.blogspot.com/2009/10/lilo-warning-initial-ram-disk-is-too.html
[13:56] <dutchbuntu> !partitioning
[13:56] <dutchbuntu> !partitioning | pongo
[13:56] <ikonia> JediMaster: interesting
[13:57] <robertf> legend2440> i would have a dual boot (slackware  - ubuntu)
[13:57] <jongbergs> Anorien: how's is it going now?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> kleftisx: uninstall the ati driver
[13:57] <ciphergoth> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile recommends installing linux-kernel-devel, which no longer exists under Karmic
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> kleftisx: you'll need to boot to recovery root console to do this
[13:57] <kleftisx> ActionParsnip1 : to apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> ciphergoth: log a bug
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> kleftisx: if thats the package, yes
[13:58] <JediMaster> ikonia, I can however login as root, and mount claims /proc is already mounted
[13:58] <om26er> my osd notification looks broken
[13:58] <ikonia> JediMaster: one moment
[13:58] <JediMaster> ikonia, kk, thanks for the help btw
[13:58] <sassyn> Hi The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
[13:58] <sassyn> > Warning:          Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols
[13:58] <sassyn> >                   Ignoring extra symbols
[13:58] <sassyn> What does it mean?
[13:58] <kleftisx> ActionParsnip1 : i have try it already removing the package and then reconfigure. but when i restart ubuntu start in console mode and not gnome
[13:58] <ikonia> JediMaster: no problem, be with you in a few minutes
[13:59] <jason_> Do not install Wicd  if you need mobile broadband removes network manager! still back up and running again
[13:59] <obg_> Hi, as a desktop user, what software is my best bet for real-time backups (i.e. periodic backups with the system up and running)?
[14:00] <jongbergs> kleftisx: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> kleftisx: then boot to console mode and run: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:00] <zippy> d9500 http://pastebin.com/m2f643ebe
[14:00] <eca> 423r
[14:00] <B9> i am having all these problems with my system and I am not sure how to go about fixing them i keep on having to press Alt and D when I log on the boot isn't happening properly... also, my up arrow and right arrow on my pad have stopped working and Pidgin starts to load and then things better of it and close down :-(  i would really appreciate some assistance
[14:01] <JediMaster> obg_, I personally use rsync to backup files while my servers are running, but it doesn't really have a nice GUI front end for it (as far as I am aware)
[14:01] <kleftisx> obg_ : Try using mondo or rsync
[14:02] <plustax> I have a question. I currently have the latest 9.10 through wubi. My other OS on this laptop is win 7. I have 4 gigs of ram and a video card that runs crysis wonderfully. For some reason...when Im here on linux using songbird, if I use any visual album cover grids, I freeze like mavis beacon in the dos days. I have more than enough power to run this shit. What's going on, and how do I fix it?
[14:02] <fasta> Ubuntu has an "official" backup program, I believe, called sbackup.
[14:02] <fasta> Never used it, though.
[14:02] <obg_> JediMaster, is it OK to backup the system using rsync while the files are in use?
[14:02] <kleftisx> jongbergs : i have already ty that i get ubuntu start in console mode
[14:02] <obg_> kleftisx, I didn't know about mondo, I'll check it out, thanks.
[14:02] <sassyn> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
[14:02] <sassyn> > Warning:          Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols
[14:02] <sassyn> >                   Ignoring extra symbols
[14:02] <sassyn> what does it mean?
[14:02] <FloodBot3> sassyn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:02] <kleftisx> obg_ : =]
[14:03] <iceroot> how to get the speed of a NIC? i want to know if it is 10mbit/s, 100mbit/s or 1gbit/s
[14:03] <Anorien> jongbergs: i did what you told in synaptic and its showing me a list of packages. do i select them one by one? there's lot of it :-s
[14:03] <JediMaster> obg_, as with anything backing up while a system is live, it will slow down the machine slightly, but yes, I've never had any problems with rsync while files are in use
[14:03] <sassyn> OK - Sorry
[14:03] <B9> :-(
[14:03] <obg_> JediMaster, ok thanks
[14:03] <jongbergs> Anorien: just select the packages that you want to install, in your case you might only need LAMP, just choose LAMP server for now..
[14:04] <plustax> I have a question. I currently have the latest 9.10 through wubi. My other OS on this laptop is win 7. I have 4 gigs of ram and a video card that runs crysis wonderfully. For some reason...when Im here on linux using songbird, if I use any visual album cover grids, I freeze like mavis beacon in the dos days. I have more than enough power to run this shit. What's going on, and how do I fix it?
[14:04] <boban`> waffle
[14:04] <boban`> true
[14:04] <boban`> hawa
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: have you installed video drivers?
[14:04] <bazhang> plustax, please watch the language
[14:04] <TheTom> !netbook
[14:04] <plustax> sorry
[14:04] <NetM> Any prog to check my laptop's temperatures ?
[14:04] <plustax> and I believe I have.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> NetM: lm-sensors
[14:04] <plustax> I have nvidia 9300
[14:04] <TheTom> is there a #room for ubuntu netbook remix
[14:05] <plustax> is there a certain driver set I should use?
[14:05] <plustax> Could someone walk me through it in pm please?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: so you have ran: gksudo jockey-gtk   and activated  the driver
[14:05] <JonathanEllis> I want to share files between two computers both running Ubuntu. When I try to share my home folder /home/jonathan by right clicking in nautilus it prompts me to install the Windows network sharing service. But since both computers are running Ubuntu, why would I use Samba in preference to nfs? Or has nfs been deprecated now? I am running Hardy on my desktop machine (the one I am trying to share from) and Karmic on my laptop
[14:05] <NetM> ActionParsnip1: ty :)
[14:05] <plustax> hmm I dont think I have
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: no, in the channel, more minds and eyes, and it may help others
[14:05] <TwoD> I can't make heads or tails of the device paths created in karmic. dmsg repors my devices end up at /devices/pci0000:00/something, but how do I access anything using that path?
[14:05] <boban`> I have a question
[14:05] <plustax> this is only my second day on linux.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: your system runs badly as your graphics card is doing nothing
[14:05] <boban`> whats the command to join another irc server ?
[14:05] <boban`> whats the command to join another irc server ? please
[14:05] <plustax> Could you walk me through the whole process?
[14:06] <Soyo> WELCOME!
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: then dont get ranty as yuo have not configured your system right ;)
[14:06] <JediMaster> boban`, server or channel?
[14:06] <JonathanEllis> !ask | boban`
[14:06] <songe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/320021/
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: press alt+f2   paste the command I gave
[14:06] <songe> anyone?
[14:06] <plustax> okay
[14:06] <boban`> guys ? whats the command to join another irc serer ? /s or ?
[14:06] <SexyShey> irc.chat.com.tr chat is here
[14:06] <zaggynl> /connect boban`
[14:06] <Soyo> ./connect blah.com
[14:07] <boban`> thanks
[14:07] <boban`> This command is for network staff only
[14:07] <Soyo> What client are you using?
[14:07] <JediMaster> boban`, try /server blah.com
[14:07] <Soyo> xirc? irssi?
[14:08] <plustax> its activating the recommended driver that I didnt have activated.
[14:08] <JediMaster> I guess that worked
[14:08] <JediMaster> =)
[14:08] <Soyo> lol
[14:08] <plustax> Is that it? OR do I need to do something else or restart?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: when its done, reboot
[14:08] <kostkon> plustax, you need to restart yes
[14:08] <disappearedng> how do I ssh on a differnet port? ssh ip:port doesn't work
[14:08] <plustax> kk
[14:08] <Soyo> He is using ex-chat aparently too
[14:08] <Anorien> jongbergs: i fail to see how to do it in synoptic, but seems to be working with apt-get install lamp-server^ . thanks again
[14:08] <B9> TheTom i have a Netbook and am running remix whatzup?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: if anything else runs badly, you will need to configure that hardware too
[14:09] <bastidrazor> disappearedng: first off the ssh has to be listening on a different port and also the command is ssh -p123 user@host
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: lots of stuff aims to run out of the box but some stuff wont and needs some effort
[14:10] <legend2440> ciphergoth: http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2009/11/03/how-to-compile-a-kernel-for-ubuntu-karmic/
[14:10] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip1: Good afternoon. Hope I am not bothering you with this question. I want to share files between two computers both running Ubuntu. When I try to share my home folder /home/jonathan by right clicking in nautilus it prompts me to install the Windows network sharing service. But since both computers are running Ubuntu, why would I use Samba in preference to nfs? Or has nfs been deprecated now? I am running Hardy on my desktop machine (th
[14:10] <ong> hi
[14:10] <ong> ubuntu 9.10 stalls when starting up
[14:11] <ong> it works on my wifes pc
[14:11] <ong> 64bit verion
[14:11] <TheTom> Does anyone know what's up with my apt configuration in netbook remix. i can't find most of the packages i normally install after a fresh ubuntu install, such as irssi, mpd, mpc. /etc/apt/sources.list looks as it has the same sources as my regular karmic install
[14:11] <jongbergs> Anorien: ok, that should also work, what i meant is that, in synaptic, you to the Edit menu, selct Mark packages by task, then it will show a list of packages by task, then you should see LAMP Server among the list. :)
[14:11] <bazhang> ong, have you tried the alternate cd
[14:11] <TheTom> B9: hello. look right above
[14:12] <kleftisx> ActionParsnip1  jongbergs : i have try reconfigure but same black screen. any othe idea?
[14:12] <ong> @bazhang, i downloaded but did not try. I made movie (sorry, windows mediaplayer 9 codec): http://team-noehring.de/extern/error/u910/u910.html
[14:12] <jongbergs> kleftisx: how is it going on right now?
[14:12] <Anorien> yes, i was selecting it and it said in the bar 21 packages to be installed, abt 62 mb, but i failed to see a "install" or "go for it" button lol
[14:12] <plustax> Thank you so much.
[14:12] <plustax> Everything is working a billion times faster.
[14:12] <bazhang> ong, would be a good idea to try for troubleshooting purposes
[14:12] <ong> @bazhang, can I TRY ubuntu with the alternate CD or does it force me to install?
[14:13] <bazhang> ong, install only
[14:13] <kleftisx> jongbergs : same again i have run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and when i reboot ubuntu start loading and then i get same black screen
[14:13] <ong> @bazhang, anything I should pay special attention to?
[14:13] <erUSUL> ong: no alternate can not be used as livecd only the desktop version can
[14:13] <ong> install only = not good at this time
[14:13] <bazhang> ong, it is text only
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> plustax: stuff tends to when yu configure it
[14:13] <duergar> i need to reformat and dual boot with windows xp because a couple of programs i need to run use the .net 3.5 architecture and unfortunately wine and crossover don't work for this. Where do i find out exactly how big my linux installation is so i can create a partition large enough to hold just the operating system?
[14:13] <kewix> hello
[14:14] <bazhang> ong, what about making a live usb on your other computer then with unetbootin
[14:14] <ong> the movie (http://team-noehring.de/extern/error/u910/u910.html) shows the text message output of the start process and where it stalls
[14:14] <Soyo> hi
[14:14] <JonathanEllis> duergar: Do you have a separate root partition already?
[14:14] <plustax> I am looking to add a custom theme to spice up everything a little bit. I don't know where to find a good dark/black glossy theme, and if I did I wouldn't know how to install it.
[14:14] <jongbergs> Anorien: ok, we just hope the process will be fine..
[14:14] <plustax> Could someone help me please? :D
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:14] <Spixx> duergar: check out Virtualbox if you don't need to do heavy stuff
[14:14] <duergar> johnathanellis: no. when i formatted i told linux to do what it needed to do with the whole drive
[14:14] <JonathanEllis> duergar: Another option could be to install windows as a guest os within virtualbox running on an ubuntu host
[14:14] <ong> would be an idea, but maybe I am not ready to install ubuntu. I tried unetbootin (if I remember right, it creates a single-file-ubuntu) which is really slow
[14:14] <irocksu> hi
[14:14] <Snausages> Spixx: what's heavy stuff?
[14:15] <[JackD]> duergar: fdisl -l /dev/sd*
[14:15] <[JackD]> fdisk
[14:15] <Soyo> applications,settings,settings manager
[14:15] <ong> anyways, this idea is goog
[14:15] <jongbergs> kleftisx: are you able to see the grub2 menu?
[14:15] <ong> I guess, I will try this
[14:15] <Spixx> Snausages: well no gaming via virtualbox, but doin some app works fine
[14:15] <bazhang> ong, no that is wubi
[14:15] <ZaNeIuM>  i have a 160gb drive with win7 and ubuntu and it dualboots like normal. but i wanted to put it on a new drive its only a 40gb but win7 was only using 11gb so thats cool and i resized it within ghost
[14:16] <kleftisx> jongbergs : grub2 ? i can see the 1.97 beta grub menu
[14:16] <bazhang> kleftisx, that is grub2
[14:16] <JonathanEllis> duergar: OK. I have a separate root partition which is 10GB and of that I have used only 4.13GB. My home partition on the other hand is 113 GB of which I have used 76GB
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> !theme | plustax
[14:16] <ZaNeIuM> now the new cloned drive will not boot i get a error 15 from grub
[14:16] <kleftisx> jongbergs : yes i am able
[14:16] <legend2440> plustax: open  system>preferences>appearance  there are some dark themes in there
[14:16] <ong> thanks, will try and then check back with you guys.
[14:16] <jongbergs> kleftisx: let's just see if adding the vga=792 in the boot options will work
[14:16] <ZaNeIuM> do i get this error cause i resized the win7 partion, or you just cant clone linux
[14:17] <Spixx> ZaNeIuM: check so that it is pointing towards (X,X) and not the drive UUID
[14:17] <ASmith42> Hello.
[14:17] <duergar> ok, so if i made my windows 15, linux 10, and the rest /share i should be good then. do i have to do anything special with the share partition other than ensure it's formatted in fat32?
[14:17] <Spixx> ZaNeIuM: check in menu.lst in /boot/grub
[14:17] <jongbergs> kleftisx: try adding vag=792 in the boot option
[14:17] <paulo_> hi people
[14:17] <jongbergs> kleftisx: sorry, try adding vga=792 in the boot option
[14:17] <Spixx> ASmith42: yo
[14:17] <kleftisx> jongbergs : what is the vga=792 option? and how can i add it in the boot options?
[14:18] <JonathanEllis> duergar: The shared partition can be ntfs if you like. Or you can use ext2 and add the ext driver to windows
[14:18] <JonathanEllis> duergar: Before you do that, though, try virtualbox
[14:18] <ASmith42> I'm trying to modify the grub list.  Everything I look at tells me to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, but in Karmic menu.lst isn't there.
[14:18] <mikeg3> I need help!  Ubuntu 9.10 will not boot.  It is some sort of video problem.  I tried the Alternate Install CD -- is there some sort of video safemode I can use?  AMD Athlon X2 64 processor, nvidia 6150se nforce 430 video card.
[14:18] <wers> karmic doesnt seem to detect my vostro 1310's wifi card. been googling about it but people don't seem to have a prob with it. is this a unique case? it's a BCM4312
[14:18] <duergar> is virtualbox free, and i only have 512 ram.. will that be enough?
[14:18] <paulo_> Can anyone take a doubt?
[14:19] <Spixx> duergar: hmm, It will "work" <- notice the "" :P
[14:19] <duergar> lol. i'll just dual boot it then. thanks for the info
[14:19] <Spixx> mikeg3: what type of errors do you get?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> mikeg3: did you MD5 test the ISOs you downloaded? Did you run the CD tester?
[14:19] <Spixx> duergar: np, it is simpler with virtualbox though :D
[14:19] <paulo_> i cant put dual boot
[14:19] <jongbergs> kleftisx: at the grub2 menu, select the first default linux image press 'e' then go the end the line and append vga=792, press escape key the hit enter
[14:19] <om26er> notification is looking weired plz take a look anybody: http://imagebin.org/71867
[14:20] <paulo_> 	
[14:20] <paulo_> it starts directly with linux
[14:20] <Spixx> om26er: what is "wrong"?
[14:20] <om26er> Spixx: plz see the image
[14:20] <Spixx> the orange lines?
[14:20] <om26er> Spixx: yes
[14:20] <mikeg3> yes and yes to md5 checking...just switches video modes endlessly...I can d/l the restricted nvidia driver if I ever could get to that point
[14:20] <Spixx> ahh, is it only that field or more then?
[14:20] <Snausages> that's not part of the art?
[14:21] <om26er> Spixx: every notification
[14:21] <mikeg3> monitor is old dell 1702fp
[14:21] <Spixx> ohh, wierd :P
[14:21] <Spixx> maybe got something todo with graphics do you have the drivers installed correctly?
[14:21] <JonathanEllis> duergar:  Yes virtualbox is free. 512MB is not much RAM and virtualbox needs to have RAM dedicated to it which will slow down everything else while its running. But you could try installing it and see how it goes. Its less drastic than resizing partitions and then installing windows. Trouble with installing windows AFTER ubuntu is that the windows installer will overwrite your master boot record and then you wont be able to boot ubuntu at all until
[14:22] <om26er> Spixx: intel drivers are fine i think
[14:22] <plustax> im on gnome-look but I don't know which link to click that will take me to a list of themes that are compatible with my system
[14:22] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  ok. i am restarting to try it. thanks
[14:22] <Spixx> Ok, maybe you will have more luck if you shut of all "graphical" stuff
[14:22] <paulorasilva> i cant put dual boot
[14:22] <om26er> Spixx: compiz?
[14:22] <paulorasilva> it starts directly with linux
[14:22] <paulorasilva> help-me plis
[14:23] <Spixx> under system > Prefrence > appearance > TAB visual effects?
[14:23] <mikeg3> How can I even tell the if the drivers are installed correctly...screen is black and goes into power save mode  -- here in windows it is fine
[14:23] <Soyo> !boot
[14:24] <Soyo> !dualboot
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> mikeg3: use some bootoptions to tell the system to use the failsafe driver
[14:24] <ASmith42> !grub
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | mikeg3
[14:25] <Snausages> hey, is there a way to flip my window controls to the left?
[14:25] <ASmith42> !grub2
[14:25] <beckettj> Just want to shout a big thankyou to the Ubuntu devs for the GSM compatibility  - my 3G dongle worked immediately - no cinfiguration
[14:25] <jrib> Snausages: up to the window manager
[14:25] <ASmith42> Thanks, ubottu!  You rock!
[14:25] <ASmith42> :P
[14:25] <jrib> Snausages: you used to be able to do it in gconf with metacity.  If you are using compiz, maybe ask #compiz
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> Snausages: define "windows controls" do you mean like a mac has close, minimise etc on the left?
[14:26] <blck> Hi all
[14:27] <Soyo> hi
[14:27] <om26er> !hi | soyo blck
[14:27] <Snausages> ActionParsnip1: yeah, would like to flip sides so the controls are where I'm used to them from my mac
[14:28] <guinho> hello
[14:28] <JediMaster> ikonia, when you have a minute: http://pastebin.com/d3ccab85d
[14:28] <blck> I enabled laptop-mode on my notebook, by now the harddisk turns off very often, which is not good and makes the pc slow... In the laptop conf file I set the HD_powersave to 127, 128 -> 254 will enabled powersaving but I need this
[14:28] <guinho> anybody there
[14:29] <pongo>  I've read the article on partitioning but it still doesn't answer my question.
[14:29] <pongo>  the thing is i dont know if it actually possible to do the following:
[14:29] <pongo> a have a single HDD with 3 partitions on it showing as
[14:29] <pongo> 8 GB - hidden Partition (vista restore probably) ......ntsf
[14:29] <pongo> 73GB- C:  with vista , programs and other on it........ntsf
[14:29] <pongo> 70GB- D: with movies and photos and other ........ntsf
[14:29] <FloodBot3> pongo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> Snausages: you can get mac style themes if you wish: Here is a guide I've used. Works pretty nice: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[14:29] <guinho> ta ai alguem
[14:29] <italomaia> I tought it was possible to buy dell zinoHD with ubuntu!
[14:29] <italomaia> aqui guinho
[14:29] <joaopinto> !br | guinho
[14:30] <detrate_> I'm trying to get phpmyadmin working in 9.10... but when I access localhost/phpmyadmin it's attempting to download index.phtml :-\
[14:30] <detrate_> anyone have an idea on how I can fix this?
[14:30] <guinho> boas
[14:30] <detrate_> I installed phpmyadmin with apt-get
[14:30] <guinho> alguem me pode dar uma dica
[14:30] <italomaia> but in dell website there's only windows 7. Did anyone heard that too?
[14:30] <guinho> ??
[14:30] <Snausages> ActionParsnip1: interesting...  I wasn't looking to go all the way to lifted apple widgets & artwork, but it's nice to put the controls in the same places...  the one that I'm dying to do is a split dvorak/qwerty keyboard...  i found a howto but it didn't work.
[14:30] <lilyshu> Snausages : in terminal type gconf-editor
[14:30] <italomaia> guinho, entra no ubuntu-br cara
[14:30] <guinho> como fasso isso
[14:30] <guinho> ??
[14:31] <IdleOne> guinho: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:31] <italomaia> "/join #ubuntu-br"
[14:32] <guinho> tou la sozinho
[14:32] <lilyshu> Snausages : then go to Apps/metacity/general and change button_layout to close,minimize,maximize:menu
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> Snausages: if you read the guide, one part of it will tell yuo how. You dont have to use the entire guide
[14:32] <diddy> How can I stop Ubuntu from mounting my USB stick?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> Snausages: sounds like lilyshu has a fix for you ;)
[14:32] <diddy> I want the guest in my virtual machine to mount the stick.
[14:33] <JonathanEllis> I am trying to share a folder with another ubuntu machine. When I right click on the folder in nautilus and click sharing options it only gives me the option of using Windows network file sharing (Samba). What happend to nfs? I am running Hardy
[14:33] <pongo> why wound noone help, even speak with me??
[14:33] <kleftisx> jongbergs : i try adding vga=792 in the boot menu. but again the same i get black screen again
[14:33] <Snausages> lilyshu: I'm not sure where you're directing me, haven't got anything like that on my machine
[14:33] <kwinz> Hi @all, I want to use Gnome Network Manager for 3G WWAN and VPN but keep using ifup/ifdown and wpa_supplicant for wlan. Is this possible?
[14:33] <JonathanEllis> !patience |pongo
[14:34] <mikeg3> !failsafe
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> !nfs
[14:34] <IdleOne> pongo:  ask your question
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> JonathanEllis: ^
[14:34] <prkos> I'm using gedit to edit some CSS files and when I open a bracket it doesn't automatically create the closing bracket, so I can just hit enter and get autoindent. It used to work before, what am I missing?
[14:34] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip1: Thanks. Can you just confirm nfs is a better way to go than Samba?
[14:34] <markbaas> kwinz, i dont think so, i think network-manager will keep disturbing your connect. You better try gnome-ppp/wvdial for 3G
[14:34] <IdleOne> !pm | pongo
[14:34] <jongbergs> kleftisx: but if you boot into live cd would you encounter the same problem?
[14:35] <ciphergoth> JonathanEllis: not sure if you got an answer to this one, but: if you don't want to use Samba or NFS, have you considered sshfs?
[14:35] <Soyo> Pongo is trying to do something with multiple partitions if I remember correctly
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> JonathanEllis: neither is better, nor worse. They both have advantages and disadvantages
[14:36] <kleftisx> jongbergs : u mean just to run from live cd? i dont think that i will encounter the same problem. Because when i istalled ubuntu it was everything normaly. after enabling the restricted devices and making the recomended updates. When i reboot i got black screen
[14:36] <JonathanEllis> ciphergoth: Im not sure what to use, but I read somewhere that nfs is faster than samba and I am not using windows so installing something for windows seems unnecessary (objectionable even!)
[14:36] <bintang_>  /j hqj
[14:37] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip1: Is there a guide where I can read the pros and cons of each to help me choose? I thought nfs was the default unix method so thats why I thought of using it
[14:37] <ciphergoth> JonathanEllis: Not suggesting samba but sshfs
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> JonathanEllis: samba works nice and fast here, i think you should read up on both and compare to your requirements
[14:37] <markbaas> is there anyway to filter all these connection notification, i can hardly read the text what is going on
[14:37] <grawity> ActionParsnip1: Except Samba is a little hard with Unix filesystem things (permissions, ACLs, etc)
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> markbaas: if you hide the join/part messages it will be less
[14:38] <IdleOne> pongo: you will need to resize D: and then format the 15GB to ext3 using !Gparted then during the install select the advanced setting and select the 15GB partition as /
[14:38] <JonathanEllis> ciphergoth: So that gives me a third choice! Sheesh! What do you think of sshfs?
[14:38] <mikeg3> Where can I get instructions on using the failsafe video driver in ubuntu 9.10, please?  I am rapidly getting lost in details.
[14:38] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, even though you get into black screen, do you think the boot process continues?
[14:38] <ciphergoth> JonathanEllis: it's not the fastest but it's convenient and secure
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> grawity: true but if default file access is ok for new files then its fine
[14:38] <pongo> yes i would like to install ubuntu on  my D: parttition where i have 15 Gb free , i also have a C: partition with vista and a hidden partition on my sigle HDD.........i want to be able to dual boot with vista
[14:38] <yml> hello
[14:38] <ciphergoth> because you don't have to do any configuration on the server besides enabling ssh which you've probably done anyway
[14:39] <bastidrazor> JonathanEllis: i use sshfs to mount a /movie directory to my media server. simple and easy and is fast enough to stream movies with.
[14:39] <nikki93> I have a little bit of a problem. :/ Some kid came home and wanted me to put a game in his USB stick. The game was on my windows side. I booted into windows. I tried to open his stick. It said, 'needs formatting', I said, 'ok format'. Supposedly that was my Linux /home partition, not his USB stick.
[14:39] <ciphergoth> and similarly you can remote mount an sshfs filesystem without root privs
[14:39] <Rockiest> what better ubuntu 2008 or 2009 ?
[14:39] <nikki93> Can I recover the data?
[14:39] <nikki93> At least partially.
[14:39] <nikki93> A lot of it is backed up..
[14:39] <grawity> Rockiest: There is no Ubuntu 2008 and no Ubuntu 2009
[14:39] <JonathanEllis> I also read about Zeroconf and now I am confused :-$. Would like an opinion or opinions on what people think is easiest, fastest and safest to share documents and music between my ubuntu laptop and desktop machine.
[14:39] <kleftisx> jongbergs : i think works from 2-3 seconds after the black screen because of watching the hd and cpu led. and also the keyboard leds not working. except the Scroll lock led that is flashing
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> Rockiest: best what?
[14:39] <Halitech> Rockiest, you are talking about 4 versions in 2008 and 2009, which one are you referring to
[14:39] <m4rtin> pongo: if you don't want to mess up your partitions, use Wubi to install from inside Windows
[14:39] <grawity> JonathanEllis: Zeroconf is a very different thing from samba/nfs. It's used for different purposes.
[14:39] <ciphergoth> JonathanEllis: IMHO, unless you have special requirements, use sshfs
[14:40] <ciphergoth> Places/Connect to Server/SSH
[14:40] <yml> I am discovering empathy and so far I am impressed. I am playing with the "share my desktop" feature with a jabber (gmail) account
[14:40] <TheTom> After upgrading to karmic, I can't change colorscheme in byobu. I get an errormessage, but only part of it is displayed. I goes like: Error: ~/.byobu/profile exists, bit is not a...
[14:40] <ciphergoth> if you can log into it, you can read/write files
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> JonathanEllis: can even mount sshfs too ;)
[14:40] <Rockiest> i have  8.04 now, is there any reason to switch to 9.04 ?
[14:40] <jcrawford1> so who here uses empathy for IRC?
[14:40] <JonathanEllis> ciphergoth: My requirements are simple. File sharing with laptop, possibly automatic synchronisation though I have been burnt in the past with the windows version
[14:40] <pongo> the thing is i cant boot into vista at the moment, is there another way , and why did side by side install go missing
[14:40] <ciphergoth> jcrawford1: I do, not sure it's wise but I do
[14:41] <kwinz> markbaas: Gnome network manager has 2 checkboxes when you rightclick on the applet, one of it is named "enable wireless". When I uncheck it wpa_supplicant seems ok, but if i reastart the checkbox is set again. Is there a way to permanently diable it?
[14:41] <Halitech> Rockiest, depends on your hardware and needs
[14:41] <ActionParsnip1> Rockiest: if its not broken, don't fix it
[14:41] <yml> I the screen is shared but it is not refreshed when I move the window around
[14:41] <ciphergoth> then use sshfs
[14:41] <kwinz> +s
[14:41] <TheTom> jcrawford1: more people should use some empathy on irc.
[14:41] <jcrawford> TheTom, why is that?
[14:41] <yml> does someone know where I can set the paramater that control the refresh rate ?
[14:41] <jongbergs> kleftisx: what video card do you have?
[14:41] <jcrawford> I am not sure I like the UI for IRC heh
[14:41] <markbaas> ActionParsnip1, If i only knew how to do that
[14:41] <jcrawford> does not support /join wtf
[14:41] <ciphergoth> you can use rsync for automatic synchronization, though best not to do that on top of sshfs but directly
[14:41] <n8tuser> JonathanEllis-> i second ciphergoth recommendations of sshfs
[14:41] <ciphergoth> jcrawford: indeed
[14:41] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ati hd4890
[14:42] <TheTom> jcrawford: it helps communication somtimes
[14:42] <IdleOne> jcrawford: Empathy does not support /join at the momment but I believe that is being worked on.
[14:42] <m4rtin> pongo: did you resize a partition? If so, you'll have to use Vista's recovery option so it can see the partition again
[14:42] <TheTom> haha
[14:42] <kwinz> markbaas: login and logout is ok too, only restart enables the checkbox again, which I do not want
[14:42] <QRZ> Rockiest: 8.04 is an LTS release.  9.10 is not.  At this point, 8.04 will be supported beyond the support cycle of 9.10.  So if you are happy with 8.04, stick with it!
[14:42] <jcrawford> how can you call yourself an irc client when you dont support /join rofl
[14:42] <jcrawford> j/k :)
[14:42] <Snausages> lilyshu: I can't figure out where metacity is on my machine, what should I be looking for?
[14:43] <TheTom> apt-get install irssi
[14:43] <TheTom> the irc client of the future!
[14:43] <jcrawford> TheTom, yea i don't have time to learn all the kb commands heh
[14:43] <jcrawford> and i know there is a UI for it :)
[14:43] <JonathanEllis> ciphergoth n8tuser ActionParsnip1: Thanks very much for pointing me in the right directions for reading. I will look at rsync as well. Does that use its own file sharing protocol?
[14:43] <pongo> no i havent started the install yet no resizing done  , doesnt that make you lose data on the whole hdd
[14:43] <markbaas> kwinz, what do you mean?
[14:43] <lilyshu> Snausages : in terminal type gconf-editor
[14:43] <lilyshu> Snausages : then go to Apps/metacity/general and change button_layout to close,minimize,maximize:menu
[14:43] <IdleOne> jcrawford: Empathy is not an irc client. it is IM client which is trying to also support irc. use irssi or xchat
[14:43] <Snausages> lilyshu: I don't have an "apps"
[14:43] <TheTom> jcrawford: i just can't see why people would need a _graphical_ ui for an irc session, really
[14:43] <jcrawford> IdleOne, thief :)
[14:44] <jcrawford> IdleOne, I am using xchat now
[14:44] <m4rtin> pongo: why can't you boot vista then?
[14:44] <disappearedng> hey how do I ssh into another machine on port 2222?
[14:44] <markbaas> Yes en how in xchat filter all the enter/part messages
[14:44] <jcrawford> disappearedng, ssh user@host -p 2222
[14:44] <ActionParsnip1> IdleOne: it is used to connect to an IRC server and can communicate as a client to the servers service
[14:44] <bazhang> markbaas, right click channel name
[14:44] <n8tuser> JonathanEllis-> rsync is not a file sharing protocol as intended.. remote synching is the simple explain i can come up with
[14:44] <ActionParsnip1> IdleOne: so it is an irc client
[14:44] <markbaas> bazhang, got it thx
[14:44] <lilyshu> Snausages : really? thats odd
[14:44] <bastidrazor> disappearedng: the other machine needs to be listening on port 2222 .. then you ssh -p2222 user@hostip
[14:45] <fasta> TheTom, graphical is superior by definition assuming you don't live in the stone age anymore, that said, X still can fail, remote desktop can fail even easier...
[14:45] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip1: yeah I guess so but the main goal is to be a alternative to IM clients. IRC is/was not high on the priority list for Empathy
[14:46] <jongbergs> kleftisx: have you done this already? sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:46] <fasta> TheTom, that most graphical clients assumes their users are stupid and don't implement the most basic feature, well, I cannot help that.
[14:46] <Snausages> lilyshu: seems like an important thing to be missing I suppose...  pardon my n00bness, barely 3 weeks in with ubuntu.  Maybe this is something that's different about this netbook remix?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> IdleOne: true but doesnt make it any less
[14:46] <kwinz> markbaas: I mean, that if I disable the "Enable Wireless" checkbox in Gnome Network Manager, everything works fine with wpa_supplincant and I can still use wwan und vpn with the applet, I can even login and logout, but as soon as I restart, the checkbox is set again
[14:46] <grawity> TheTom: Graphical UIs are quite convienent - Xchat, even (eww) mIRC... especially once you are in 150 or more channels. Switching those in irssi can become a pain. (Fortunately I haven't reached 20 yet.)
[14:47] <kleftisx> jongbergs : when i do sudo apt-ger remove xorg-driver-fglrx and then restart ubuntu and try to load again, i got ubuntu starting in console and not gnome
[14:47] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip1: Still think they should leave well enough alone and not try to reinvent the wheel. there are dedicated irc clients that work well.
[14:47] <jcrawford> going to give empathy a try i guess for a bit anyway :)
[14:47] <fasta> grawity, 150 channels? Uh, who does that?
[14:47] <zauber> I'm worried I may have totally misunderstood the Linux permission model. Someone explain, please: I added user www-data to my group 'xmpl'. I have a directory 'mydir' with 775 permissions owned by xmpl:xmpl. But php scripts (running as www-data) fail to create new files in mydir - throwing "permission denied" errors. What's up with that?
[14:47] <markbaas> kwinz, yes that is the problem, it integrates with the system, maybe through dbus you can get it to disable the wireless on startup
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> IdleOne: if a user can do multiple chats with one client and want to, they can. or they can leave the functionality and use a dedicated irc only client
[14:47] <zauber> I would have thought that since www-data is member of the group xmpl, and permissions are 775, it could create files in mydir
[14:47] <grawity> fasta: I know a few people. (One's a Wikipedia admin, has to be in a lot of channels)
[14:48] <TheTom> fasta: uh. irc is the stoneage. i type text, why would i take my hands off the keyboard? i use X, of course, but i don't really need menus and icons when in an irc session.
[14:48] <Fenix|work> Greetings and salutations.  I'm having rsyslogd issues with $AllowedSender.  I have $AllowedSender UDP, 172.16.0.0/16 in one of my config files yet in my syslog log file it stats that it UDP message from disallowed sender discarded.
[14:48] <jcrawford> oh hell no auto join for channels on networks either heh
[14:48] <Fenix|work> that sender is in the $AllowedSender list.
[14:48] <pongo> i just dont know any more its the notorious bsod after a vista automatic update with crcdisk.sys as the  last thing that loads in safe mode but inly a symptom for lot of different things and no solution a found sofar..... im no expert but i can be smthg to do with HDD drivers?? i think i saw a messaga saying a SATA driver is postponed for install after restart and after that i couldnt boot
[14:48] <ciphergoth> zauber: you very slightly misunderstand
[14:48] <fasta> TheTom, Emacs is also graphical, but you can do (setq tool-bar nil) or somethign similar.
[14:48] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip1: absolutely. not trying to say the choices should be limited. A user should have the choice to use whatever app they like.
[14:48] <markbaas> kwinz, I have had problems with network-manager too
[14:48] <renato> :q
[14:48] <fasta> TheTom, both have their place.
[14:48] <jongbergs> zauber: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /path/to/mydir
[14:49] <ciphergoth> zauber: the kernel knows nothing of the relationship ebtween users and groups
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> pongo: windows support in ##windows
[14:49] <TheTom> fasta: well, i use vim, or vim.tiny as it is in 9.10 (wtf?)
[14:49] <om26er> how ti install compiz themes
[14:49] <kwinz> markbaas: mhm well no clue about dbus, how do I use this?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> IdleOne: true, and the people use it so I gess its gonna stick around
[14:49] <ciphergoth> zauber: when you log in, the login process sets the process that it launches to be in the correct groups
[14:49] <zauber> jonbergs: I want to keep the owner as xmpl, because of file uploads (so I don't need to keep logging in and chowning
[14:49] <ciphergoth> The process that launches Apache probably just sets the groups to be www-data and ignores /etc/group
[14:49] <jongbergs> kleftisx: are you able to switch to virtual terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f1?
[14:49] <m4rtin> pongo: you'll want to fix that before doing anything that might compound your boot problems (like changing partitions)
[14:50] <zauber> ciphergoth: really, so there's no looking to see if the current user is in the group defined?
[14:50] <IdleOne> om26er: #compiz for compiz help
[14:50] <ciphergoth> so the fact that /etc/group says that when www-data logs in they should be in the xmpl group is ignored
[14:50]  * jcrawford closes Empathy
[14:50] <wrapster> guys i asked the same question about grub resotration yday.. im back .. pls help.
[14:50] <ciphergoth> zauber: does that make any sense?
[14:50] <wrapster> i tried to find /boot/grub/stage1
[14:50] <markbaas> kwinz, i found dbus quite different, but this way you can send messages to apps. Maybe alternative approach would be messing with /etc/network/interfaces
[14:50] <lilyshu> Snausages : i just check my UNR, i can find apps with gconf-editor. :D
[14:50] <wrapster> but then it says file not found
[14:50] <zauber> ciphergoth: yeah, makes sense, but it's surprising... would have never guessed it.
[14:51] <Mandrew> hello imtrying to install ubuntu 9.10 on a usb-stick from my imac and i dont want to put the grub on the imacs hdd i want to put it on the usb but i want to chose when i boot up anyone that can make sense on what i just wrote lol
[14:51] <ciphergoth> zauber: it's probably configurable in Apache though
[14:51] <kleftisx> jongbergs : u mean to remove xorg and try ctrl+alt+f1?
[14:51] <ciphergoth> Apache launches as root, takes port 80, then drops privileges
[14:51] <markbaas> kwinz, check on google for examples how to setup wpa network for that... i think network-manager will leave the interface alone if it is configured manually (im not sure)
[14:51] <wrapster> so now what im doing is using a solaris disk to boot into grub and manually choose the partition on which grub exists ...
[14:51] <zauber> ciphergoth: ah, I would hope so. Otherwise it seems to make the whole point of managing groups in linux go away
[14:51] <wrapster> could anyone please help
[14:51] <ciphergoth> /etc/apache2/envvars
[14:52] <zauber> ciphergoth: envvars say user & group is www-data
[14:52] <kwinz> markbaas: installing gnome network manager did not change my /etc/network/interfaces at all
[14:52] <pongo> Ill try that thanks but i already lost hope on vista......one more thing do you happen to a heve a tipp on how to access my hidden bios setting in order to set SATA to IDE cause on my acer im struggling with here its a phoenix bios with literally no advanced options.........bye and thanks for your time
[14:52] <zauber> also running exec("whoami") in php through browser confirms this
[14:52] <jongbergs> kleftisx: if ubuntu seems to start but unable to load gnome, let's try if we could switch to virtual console
[14:52] <IdleOne> wrapster: sounds like you need to re-install !grub or !grub2 depending on which you are using
[14:52] <markbaas> kwinz, did you change things in interfaces yet then?
[14:53] <Snausages> pongo: which acer?
[14:53] <pongo> ]aspire 5112 wlmi last bios 3.13
[14:53] <markbaas> kwinz, network manager is not to change this file, however it reads it
[14:53] <kwinz> markbaas: it is still the same, so the network manager did not alter it and must interfere with wlan somepoint else
[14:53] <wrapster> IdleOne: yeah.. but now the issue is .. I have removed linux distro so actually grub was booting windows...
[14:53] <SDuensin> Good morning.  I think I've found a bug/issue.  Something changed so *.desktop shortcuts need to be +x to work.  Except good practice is to mount /home noexec.  So no more working desktop shortcuts.  :-(
[14:53] <wrapster> i cannot remove anything coz windows now has some really important data on it...
[14:53] <kleftisx> jongbergs : restart and try ctrl+alt+f1 ? and then what to do?
[14:53] <ciphergoth> zauber: look into the apache config language, see if there's a way to set extra groups
[14:53] <Snausages> pongo: hmm, no clue then..  my acer d150 has a weirdo bios in it, but ubuntu 9.1 worked fine with the HDD in ahci mode
[14:53] <ciphergoth> there are User and Group directives already
[14:54] <PaulieWalnuts> hello
[14:54] <om26er> does compiz work in kubuntu?
[14:54] <markbaas> kwinz, so you had you custom interfaces file?
[14:54] <accio> hello
[14:54] <IdleOne> wrapster: so you don't want to install linux anymore? then you need to fixmbr ask in ##windows for help. You WILL need a Windows cd.
[14:54] <om26er> !hi | accio
[14:54] <kwinz> markbaas: Yes i do
[14:54] <Clip52> [AutoGreetz] Bem Vindo!!!
[14:54] <dtrask> My issue:  Users and Groups has 3 users...student...teacher...and netbook (the admin user).  I launch...unlock and proceed to change the "student" password.  Everything appears to work....yet the student password never gets changed.  Any ideas on what to look for?
[14:54] <zauber> ciphergoth: thanks! Will do
[14:54] <JediMaster> om26er, I believe not, I think it's gnome only
[14:54] <pongo> alright thanks again i guess its off to #windows bye
[14:54] <om26er> JediMaster: thanx
[14:54] <ciphergoth> zauber: you're welcome!
[14:55] <PaulieWalnuts> i installed Karmic to a ext4 partition using unetbootin and the iso on drive C:. everything went fine and now i cant boot into it(it doesnt show up in grub menu when the pc starts). my HD setup is : sda1 windows boot part. sda2 drive c: sda3 ext4 for / sda4 swap. i tried chrooting in sda3 and attempted to reinstall grub
[14:55] <PaulieWalnuts> usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda
[14:55] <PaulieWalnuts> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[14:56] <dtrask> My issue:  Users and Groups has 3 users...student...teacher...and netbook (the admin user).  I launch...unlock and proceed to change the "student" password.  Everything appears to work....yet the student password never gets changed.  Any ideas on what to look for?  Using 9.10 Karmic...netbook remix
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> dtrask: sudo passwd student
[14:56] <kwinz> @markbaas it reads:
[14:56] <kwinz> auto wlan0
[14:56] <kwinz> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[14:56] <kwinz> pre-up /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 hw ether 00:23:25:5C:B4:88
[14:56] <kwinz>         wpa-driver wext
[14:56] <kwinz>         wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: use pastebin
[14:56] <markbaas> kwinz, take out the auto wlan0 i think
[14:56] <dtrask> ActionParsnip1: I know that, but need to know what to do to fix the GUI tool....this is for others...not me
[14:56] <jongbergs> kleftisx: i just want to verify if ctrl+alt+f1 works, yes start ubuntu normally then wait for a minute or two then press ctrl+alf+f1
[14:56] <kwinz> pastebin si voerkill for 4 lines of code
[14:57] <kwinz> is overkill
[14:57] <dtrask> ActionParsnip1: or to know what to look for that could be affecting it
[14:57] <Fenix|work> anyone using a central syslog server with rsyslog with 9.10?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> dtrask: gksudo users-admin
[14:57] <markbaas> kwinz, look at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/117883
[14:57] <markbaas> kwinz, that is what you want
[14:57] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ok im restart to check if works, brb
[14:58] <ageeb> is there a gui app to look at drive partitions? specifically a usb flash drive...
[14:58] <Fenix|work> ageeb, gparted
[14:58] <sllide> someone here can help me with making a chip8 emulator in python? :3
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> ageeb: gparted
[14:58] <ageeb> thanks guys
[14:58] <accio> Hello everyone, I just installed Ubuntu 9.10, and I'm trying to install a touch screen beetouch, but without results.
[14:58] <accio> following paste some information of my configuration .. can someone help me?
[14:58] <markbaas> kwinz, Interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces become "unmanaged" by network manager. so this is a feature.
[14:58] <accio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/320055/
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> ageeb: sudo fdisk -l    will be faster
[14:58] <dtrask> ActionParsnip1: no go....still doesn't stick
[14:59] <PaulieWalnuts> help
[14:59] <ActionParsnip1> dtrask: could write a script for them I guess, i only do it at commandline, gui takes too lon
[14:59] <ActionParsnip1> g
[14:59] <TheTom> HM
[14:59] <PaulieWalnuts> i installed Karmic to a ext4 partition using unetbootin and the iso on drive C:. everything went fine and now i cant boot into it(it doesnt show up in grub menu when the pc starts). my HD setup is : sda1 windows boot part. sda2 drive c: sda3 ext4 for / sda4 swap. i tried chrooting in sda3 and attempted to reinstall grub
[14:59] <PaulieWalnuts> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[14:59] <dtrask> ActionParsnip1: I'm pretty knowledgable....any files I should look at to see what the perms are or possibly a log file to tail?
 when i start ubuntu i first get a tty1 console, after i login. then login manager appears and then i login again to have a gui.
 how do i fix it
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> dtrask: have a look in /var/log   see if anything looks suitable
[15:00] <ralchev> hey guys ;)
[15:00] <om26er> !hey | ralchev
[15:00] <kwinz> markbaas: no, this is not what I want, as it is the exact opposite of what I want
[15:00] <ageeb> ActionParsnip1, fdisk worked perfect thanks!
[15:00] <shockrates> HEY
 when i start kubuntu i first get a tty1 console, after i login. then login manager appears and then i login again to have a gui.
 how do i fix it
[15:01] <markbaas> kwinz, you want it to be managed by network-manager then?
[15:01] <kwinz> markbaas: in this bug the problem is, that the interface cannot be configured by gnome network manager
[15:01] <zauber> ciphergoth, et al: FYI My initial method of adding www-data to group xmpl actually worked. I had forgotten to restart apache... X-0. Can't believe I was that stupid...
[15:01] <ralchev> I'm trying to run DVD thru Kaffeine but im getting this error " Cannot find demultiplexer plugin for MRL [dvd:/]" , do you have any ideas ?
[15:01] <kwinz> markbaas: i want to not configure it with the network manager
[15:01] <kwinz> markbaas: and i cannot make it static as in the bug report
[15:01] <ciphergoth> zauber: made the same mistake myself
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> ageeb: fear not the command line
[15:02] <kwinz> markbaas: because I still rely on the auto setting to get my ip on various networks
[15:02] <PaulieWalnuts> i installed Karmic to a ext4 partition using unetbootin and the iso on drive C:. everything went fine and now i cant boot into it(it doesnt show up in grub menu when the pc starts). my HD setup is : sda1 windows boot part. sda2 drive c: sda3 ext4 for / sda4 swap. i tried chrooting in sda3 and attempted to reinstall grub
[15:02] <PaulieWalnuts> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[15:02] <zauber> ciphergoth: wasn't the first time... won't be the last. Good to know we all err on occasion :)
[15:02] <hani> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:02] <ciphergoth> zauber: good to know that Apache defers to /etc/groups
[15:02] <jongbergs> shockrates: after logging in to tty1, run the command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:02] <ageeb> ActionParsnip1, i don't fear it all... i don't know it :D
[15:02] <markbaas> kwinz, yes but i dont get it, you want network-manager to touch the interface, but not to configure it
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> ageeb: as you use it you'll learn :D
[15:02] <markbaas> kwinz, i'd guess you just want network-manager not to touch it
[15:02] <jongbergs> shockrates: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm then reboot
[15:03] <markbaas> kwinz, which would be the same as network-manager can't manage my device
[15:03] <markbaas> kwinz, so as alexander sack wrote, you have to configure it in interfaces and network-manager leaves it alone
[15:03] <cannonball> Hi all, if I want to add a static route, how do I make it persist through bootups?  In RH/Cent it would be /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-$INTERFACE.  What's the equivalent on Ubuntu?
[15:03] <kwinz> markbaas: ok, to make it clear: i do not want gnome network manager to touch my wlan at all!!!
[15:03] <kwinz> markbaas: that is what i want
[15:03] <markbaas> kwinz, but you can still use network-manager for you other interfaces
[15:04] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: did you try chrooting right now?
[15:04] <kwinz> markbaas: yes, for my wwan 3g mobile internet card
[15:04] <markbaas> kwinz, then again interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces become "unmanaged" by network manager. so this is a feature.
[15:04] <gasull> Does anybody here use apt-build and can tell me how to recompile the kernel with it?  Thanks.
[15:04] <ralchev> Can someone help me with this error?
[15:04] <aaron11> HI everyone
[15:04] <kwinz> markbaas: but it does not become unmanaged, that is the problem!
[15:04] <markbaas> kwinz, it is thus not correctly configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:05] <aaron11> gasull--> Please do be careful
[15:05] <kwinz> markbaas: it is not configured as static
[15:05] <kwinz> markbaas: but that is ok
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> gasull: sudo apt-build update; sudo apt-build install linux-image-<version number here>
[15:05] <kwinz> markbaas: i want it to remain configured auto AND not use the gnome network manager for wlan
[15:05] <ubuntistas> does the word overcreatable exist?
[15:06] <kwinz> markbaas: as configuring static would not allow me to get my ip over dhcp
[15:06] <markbaas> kwinz, i think you have to take out the auto wlan0 from the interface, but i am not sure, look at google for that.. there must be a way
[15:06] <markbaas> kwinz, taking out auto, doesnt mean (i think) static ip
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: auto wlan0   means bring the device up at boot, if you remove the auto line, it will be down at boot and you will have to manually bring it up
[15:07] <pmc-> how would i installed jre 1.5 under ubuntu 9.10? i'd like to keep 1.6 as my default, but i require 1.5 to run some legacy java apps
[15:07] <Infin1ty> pmc-, use update-java-alternatives
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: if you add:   auto wlan0     iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: it will use dhcp and not be managable from network manager (not sure about ESSIDs etc)
[15:08] <Guest75274> having problems getting external lcd monitor too work with my ubuntu 9.10?
[15:08] <gasull> aaron11, ActionParsnip1: thanks
[15:08] <kostkon> ralchev, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> Guest75274: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:09] <DeeTah> hi
[15:09] <markbaas> kwinz, look at the app network-admin, you have to disable roaming mode and the stuff will work i think
[15:09] <pmc-> Infin1ty, it only lists java-6-openjdk as available
[15:09] <croftyy> sarah@sarah-laptop:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[15:09] <croftyy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[15:09] <croftyy> sarah@sarah-laptop:~$
[15:09] <kwinz> ActionParsnip1: ESSIDs are managed by wpa_supplicant IMHO
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> gasull: it can be risky but you can get a nice bit of speed if youuse high optomisation (may be a bit flakey though) just keep an older kernel to fall back on
[15:09] <DeeTah> i'm trying to run kubuntu-netbook and it the boot stops at "can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow". how to figure out what might be wrong?
[15:09] <ralchev> kostkon, ill read this, thanks again
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: maybe s/he uses WEP.....
[15:09] <kostkon> ralchev, :)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: did you MD5 test the ISO you used?
[15:10] <gasull> ActionParsnip1: I use -O2 because the installation said that -O3 could make my system unstable.
[15:10] <Infin1ty> pmc-, how did you install your java?
[15:10] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, tried chroot and i have other errors
[15:10] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: nope. should I? :P
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> gasull: possibly, have a play
[15:10] <jongbergs> !chroot
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: yes, you have no idea if the data you have used is complete or error free without checking it
[15:11] <pmc-> Infin1ty, so far I just updated to 9.10 which removed jre 1.5 and installed 1.6 in its place, but i'd like to get 1.5 back in addition to 1.6
[15:11] <gasull> ActionParsnip1: but I'll gain speed with O2 anyway, right?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | DeeTah
[15:11] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ctrl+alt+f1 do not work :|
[15:11] <Infin1ty> pmc-, so install 1.5 and you could choose with update-java-alternatives
[15:11] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: oh well, i'll try it.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> gasull: not sure.
[15:11] <kwinz> ActionParsnip1: if you look at my interfaces config I posted before, the interface is already "auto wlan0     iface wlan0 inet dhcp" and it doesn't help
[15:11] <Infin1ty> pmc-, for example if you had installed java1.5 you could use update-java-alternatives -s java5etc..
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: the iface bit and after goes on a seperate line
[15:12] <jongbergs> kleftisx: :(, well anyway, let's find out another way
[15:12] <kleftisx> jongbergs : thanks a lot for helping me fix this
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: you will need to restart networking to apply the setting
[15:12] <decaprime> Is there a good way to virtualize ubuntu in windows, I have my os's isolated on their own hardrives
[15:12] <markbaas> decaprime, virtualbox
[15:13] <gasull> ActionParsnip1:  Does the default installation compile the kernel for your system or does it just install a kernel for a generic default machine?
[15:13] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: just remembered that I actually used two iso images and both of them showed the error.
[15:13] <pmc-> Infin1ty, that's what i was needing help with. its there some other repo i need to point to to find the right packages?
[15:13] <Jamed> decaprime: i use virtualbox for that, it works well
[15:13] <aubre> is there an audio stream of the plenary for UDS?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> gasull: the default install of ubuntu installs a generic one glove fits all kernel
[15:13] <cyberkilla> Hello! I just converted from ext3 to ext 4. I then did "chattr -e" on every file on the system, to force them all to use extents.
[15:13] <Talva> Hiya
[15:13] <Infin1ty> pmc-, well, i don't really know that, sorry
[15:13] <aubre> nm
[15:13] <decaprime> Jamed: markbaas thanks for the answer, downloading it crazy fast right now [2.5 MB/s wow]
[15:13] <pmc-> Infin1ty, thanks though
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: check the files, if they are ok you may need some boot options to get righted
[15:14] <gasull> ActionParsnip1: That's what I thought.  Thanks.  Then I'll sure gain a bit of speed.
[15:14] <dsdeiz> hi! how would i untar a file to a specific directory?
[15:14] <jongbergs> kleftisx: are you able to boot using the recovery option from the grub2 menu?
[15:14] <jongbergs> !grub2
[15:14] <cyberkilla> But I received hundreds of thousands of warning messages. It seems to have worked though. I ran e2fsck a few times on the partition and it doesn't pick up any errors. Still, I don't feel safe:P Is there anything else I can do to be sure my file system is happy:)?
[15:14] <jongbergs> !grub2 | PaulieWalnuts
[15:14] <kleftisx> jongbergs : nop i have try almost all the options from recovery menu and im not able to boot
[15:14] <kwinz> ActionParsnip1: again, look what I have posted before, It is already in a new line and I have restartet networking over 9000 times since I last edited the file xD
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> gasull: helps make firefox less rubbish
[15:15] <jongbergs> kleftisx: how many partitions do you have?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: thats all i got then,i dot use network manager. only that file
[15:15] <sipior> dsdeiz: try the "-C" switch to tar
[15:15] <Oli``> Is there a way to force everything in swap back to proper RAM?
[15:15] <kleftisx> jongbergs : 4
[15:15] <jongbergs> kleftisx: what partitioning scheme did you choose during installation?
[15:15] <kwinz> markbaas: where do i find network-admin to disable roaming mode?
[15:15] <dsdeiz> sipior: cool, thanks
[15:15] <cyberkilla> Oli``, : Interesting:O I wondered that myself, though I don't think it works like that.
[15:16] <kleftisx> jongbergs : i have ntfs for Xp and win7 and also 1gb of swap and ext3 for ubuntu
[15:16] <dsdeiz> sipior: worked like a charm, thanks..
[15:16] <gasull> ActionParsnip1: I use this for speeding Firefox: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=681119 (minus the advise about extensions since I can't live without many of them).  I also use Swiftfox, that is a Firefox packages compiled for your machine with -O3.
[15:16] <pmc-> anyone else, how can i install java 1.5 under ubuntu 9.10 in order to get the jre 1.5?
[15:16] <sipior> dsdeiz: no trouble
[15:16] <ralchev> kostkon, I've installed the package now I will reboot and see if it works
[15:16] <qos> hey guys. i guess you all aware of this nasty flash bug. i know how to fix it manually, but i rather prefer to wait for fixed packages. but they are still not released. why does this take so much time?
[15:16] <croftyy> do i need to upgrade 82852/855gm ? too get laptop higrade c2200 too work with external lcd?
[15:16] <Oli``> cyberkilla: It's probably done automatically on demand but I've got 4gigs of free ram and a gig in swap... seems a little silly to leave it there.
[15:17] <jongbergs> kleftisx: so you only have 1 partition dedicated to ubuntu..right?
[15:17] <kwinz> ActionParsnip1: and without network manager everything is working fine, my only problem is to tell network manager NOT to care about my wlan interface
[15:17] <hellyeah> hey,
[15:17] <cyberkilla> Oli``, : I only notice this when I come out of hibernation.
[15:17] <kleftisx> jongbergs : yeap
[15:17] <ActionParsnip1> Oli``: you could try: CSW=`cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness`; sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=0;sleep 5; sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=$CSW
[15:17] <cankoy> pmc-: karmic repos don't have 1.5, jaunty does. But I suggest you directly download the bundle from Sun and unpack under /opt and then point your relevant java apps to that jre.
[15:17] <hellyeah> how can i use cut command with -d option
[15:17] <ActionParsnip1> Oli``: sorry
[15:17] <ActionParsnip1> Oli``: export CSW=`cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness`; sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=0;sleep 5; sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=$CSW
[15:17] <kostkon> ralchev, ok
[15:17] <pmc-> cankoy, thanks, i'll give that a shot
[15:17] <erUSUL> hellyeah: cut -d[char]
[15:18] <jongbergs> kleftisx: do you have any idea about chrooting?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip1> Oli``: sets swappiness to 0 will make the system really try and use the ram more than swap for 5 seconds, thenset the swappiness value back
[15:18] <veraxx> does anyone know a program that would make it easy to replace the headers on the top of a bunch of script files? we have a few thousand program files with comments on the top and they want the format changed of the header, while retaining data inside of it
[15:18] <Oli``> ActionParsnip1: nope - didn't work.. nice idea though
[15:18] <ActionParsnip1> Oli``: makes sense,oh well
[15:19] <erUSUL> veraxx: try ed
[15:19] <kleftisx> jongbergs : just in general what is it, and no how to create it
[15:19] <saml> hey, how can I download all images from http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/0.2.5  ?
[15:19] <saml> hey, how can I download all images from http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/0.2.5/images  ?
[15:19] <erUSUL> veraxx: http://bash-hackers.org/wiki/doku.php?id=howto:edit-ed
[15:19] <FloodBot3> saml: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: yeah, the sums are right.
[15:19] <zash> Oli``: sudo swapoff -a; sudo swapon -a
[15:19] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: good, use those before attempting to use the data
[15:19] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: what do you mean?
[15:19] <ubuntu_> Why I cannot change directories permissions on a NTFS partition. I run CHMOD -R 0777 and only files got changed, directories remained 0700.
[15:20] <decaprime_> Jamed: I get how to create a new virtual hardrive and install something into it, but how would I mount a physical disk as a virtual machine
[15:20] <jongbergs> kleftisx: wait, how again you managed to run the commands we instructed to you?
[15:20] <cyberkilla> I've been lost in the backscroll, and I really shouldn't have split the message into multiple sections. Here it is in full, just one more time...
[15:20] <MenZa> NTFS and UNIX permissions don't go together well, ubuntu_.
[15:20] <cyberkilla> yberkilla: It's probably done automatically on demand but I've got 4gigs of free ram and a gig in swap... seems a little silly to leave it there.
[15:20] <cyberkilla> damnit
[15:20] <cyberkilla> that's not my message
[15:20] <FloodBot3> cyberkilla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:20] <llutz> ubuntu_: you don want use chmod on non-unix-fs, use mount-options
[15:20] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: I just figured out that the md5's are right, so it's not the case.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: using unchecked data may cause issues as bit errors in the right place will cause the system to go crazy, checking is essential to knowing you have a good file
[15:20] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: ntfs does not support unix permissions. what you see when you use unix tools on ntfs are "faked" permissions that get set at mount time
[15:21] <cyberkilla> Stop hassling me Floodbot;) I don't seem to have mastered Copy/past yet.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: thats good, i'm just telling you why its a good idea to test
[15:21] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | DeeTah
[15:21] <kwinz> markbaas,ActionParsnip1: where do I find network-admin to disable roaming mode, like markbaas suggested?
[15:21] <Oli``> zash: it's (really) slowly chugging through the swap and chucking it into RAM. Thanks!
[15:21] <jongbergs> kleftisx: do you use another PC to chat with?
[15:21] <Jamed> decaprime_: i dont know, i thought you just want to create a new ubuntu installation in virtualbox
[15:21] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: no idea man, sorry
[15:21] <cyberkilla> Hello! I just converted from ext3 to ext 4. I then did "chattr -e" on every file on the system, to force them all to use extents. But I received hundreds of thousands of warning messages. It seems to have worked though. I ran e2fsck a few times on the partition and it doesn't pick up any errors. Still, I don't feel safe:P Is there anything else I can do to be sure my file system is happy:)?
[15:21] <Jamed> decaprime_: i think there might be a way, maybe somone else knoes more
[15:21] <kleftisx> jongbergs : nop the same pc
[15:21] <ActionParsnip1> kwinz: i only use the interfaces file so any gui app is alien to me
[15:22] <zash> Oli``: you can also do sync; sleep 3;echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[15:22] <madhu__> any psycopg2 users? i am getting this error , if somebody has idea  please help me ; http://pastebin.com/m39cc027a
[15:22] <zash> Oli``: which lets go of cached files and stuff
[15:22] <jongbergs> kleftisx: what OS are you using right now?
[15:22] <ubuntu_> MenZa, llutz, erUSUL: Thanks for the info. I'll remount with correct permissions. :)
[15:22] <kleftisx> jongbergs : XP
[15:22] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu_
[15:23] <MenZa> cyberkilla: Sounds like you've done what you need to do.
[15:23] <ralchev> kostkon, im still getting the error : Cannot find demultiplexer plugin for MRL [dvd:/]
[15:23] <MenZa> cyberkilla: Keep backups of vital data, though :)
[15:23] <kostkon> ralchev, hmm
[15:23] <runky> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:23] <erUSUL> !es | runky
[15:23] <decaprime_> Does anyone know to virtualize an exsisting physical disk install of ubuntu in virtualbox or otherwise (in windows)
[15:23] <DeeTah> okay ActionParsnip1, but which bootoptions should I check? i don't even know what the problem is.
[15:24] <kwinz> markbaas,ActionParsnip1: I appreciate the help anyway. =) I am going offline.
[15:24] <cyberkilla> MenZa: I did make a backup, fortunately. Thanks for responding. I will keep an eye on it, but if e2fsck thinks everything is alright, it must be in good enough shape.
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: any and all, bootoptions disable functionality in the kernel and system to make the system boot
[15:24] <kostkon> ralchev, did you install  sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 and then ran  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ?
[15:24] <MenZa> cyberkilla: I would say so, yes.
[15:24] <xukun> I had all sound working perfect but after crash of xbmc I have no navigation sound or music sound anymore. I,m using ubuntu karmic with pulseaudio. I appreciate any help you can over
[15:24] <ralchev> kostkon, yes i did exactly the same
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> xukun: reboot is my call
[15:25] <kostkon> ralchev, also, try installing the following package:  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:25] <PaulieWalnuts> can i use gparted from 9.10 livecd to set active the / ext4 (sda3 in my case) ?
[15:25] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: doesn't sound reasonable. hm, trying another approach - once the mount fails to run, I get into the initrd shell. any way to save/view whole dmesg from that point?
[15:25] <kostkon> ralchev, do you have ubutnu or kubuntu?
[15:25] <ralchev> ubuntu
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: dmesg | less
[15:25] <jongbergs> kleftisx: i see, let's try booting to live cd, but i double if you can manage to chat
[15:25] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: less isn't there yet. more doesn't work.
[15:25] <jongbergs> kleftisx: i see, let's try booting to live cd, but i doubt if you can manage to chat
[15:25] <kostkon> ralchev, ok. install the package
[15:25] <xukun> ActionParsnip1, thanks but that was the first thing I did. I'm having this problem for days now
[15:26] <hellyeah> hey
[15:26] <ralchev> kostkon, downloading ;) ill tell you the results later
[15:26] <aaron11> Hia
[15:26] <kostkon> ralchev, ok
[15:26] <hellyeah> how can i use cut command with -d option
[15:26] <kleftisx> jongbergs : and i can start from live cd. ..what i can do next?
[15:26] <hellyeah> can you give an example about that
[15:27] <Yosafat> hu
[15:27] <erUSUL> hellyeah: again cut -d[char]
[15:27] <Yosafat> how can we get
[15:27] <Yosafat> the latest wine
[15:27] <hellyeah> sorry
[15:27] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: less isn't there yet. more doesn't work. any other ideas?
[15:27] <hellyeah> i didnt see
[15:27] <hellyeah> cut -d [2000] file
[15:27] <erUSUL> hellyeah: cut -d: -f1,3,5
[15:27] <hellyeah> like that
[15:27] <ubuntistas> does the word overcreatable exist?
[15:27] <aaron11> !linux
[15:27] <QRZ> hellyeah: Try, "grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf | cut -d ' ' -f2" and that should illustrate it for you.
[15:27] <Yosafat> linux
[15:27] <Yosafat> is a piece of shit
[15:28] <jongbergs> kleftisx: do you have access to other computer with internet connection for chatting purposes?
[15:28] <erUSUL> hellyeah: that will cut betwwen :'s and show fields 1 3 and 5
[15:28] <hellyeah> thanks QRZ
[15:28] <QRZ> hellyeah: welcome
[15:28] <rafal> Good morning
[15:28] <hellyeah> QRZ,
[15:28] <mbeierl> ok, I give.  Anyone know how to get the standard desktop back in karmic netbook remix?
[15:28] <ubuntistas> yosafat watch your language your opinion is acceptable with appropriate words!
[15:28] <ubuntistas> yosafat watch your language your opinion is acceptable with appropriate words!
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> DeeTah: nano? more?
[15:28] <rafal> I have a quick question ... if I'm going to install dual-boot (Win7 + Ubuntu 9.10) which should I install FIRST?
[15:28] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: nano, gonna see if it's there
[15:29] <kostkon> rafal, win7
[15:29] <DeeTah> keep in mind only initrd's loaded at the stage ;P
[15:29] <jcrawford> why even bother with Win7 lol j/k :)
[15:29] <g__> how can i automatically redirect site1.com/foo/* to site1.com/bar/* ?
[15:29] <g__> for all requests across browers preferablt
[15:29] <Jamed> decaprime_: i just googled a little: only things i found are about windows and say it may be possible, but in most cases you are not able to boot it in a virtual machine, since it also virtualizes different hardware, than your PC has and your existing install is not configured for that
[15:29] <rafal> kostkon, OK, then it will put grub as the main boot-loader by itself? (also if I allocate space for Ubuntu it'll just install itself without hassle?)
[15:29] <ActionParsnip1> !info desktop-switcher | mbeierl
[15:30] <zash> g__: on client side? i think you probably have to use some transparent proxy then
[15:30] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: as I said, "more" doesn't work and there is no nano either.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip1> mbeierl: theres an app named desktop switcher you can use
[15:30] <hellyeah> it i wrote cut  -d: -f1,1,1 b.txt
[15:30] <hellyeah> that didnt work
[15:30] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip1: exactly the problem - it's not available in Karmic NBR
[15:30] <QRZ> hellyeah: You need to quote the delimited character.
[15:30] <kleftisx> jongbergs : yes i have
[15:30] <flan_suse> In GNOME, why would the eject button on a CD/DVD drive be ignore? How come I must always right-click to eject a disc?
[15:30] <decaprime_> Jamed: yeah that's what i'm seeing too, its just such a pain in the ass the have to do a full reboot between the two
[15:30] <DeeTah> ActionParsnip1: oh, since the pendrive's a fat partition, I just could redirect the output.
[15:30] <DeeTah> cool, gonna be nice reading.
[15:30] <QRZ> hellyeah: ..as in, "cut -d ':' -f1"
[15:31] <aaron11> flan_suse--> That sometimes happens to me too
[15:31] <ActionParsnip1> mbeierl: yeah the http://ppa.launchpad.net/netbook-remix-team/ubuntu repo doesnt have karmic
[15:31] <kostkon> rafal, yes. if you preallocate space for ubuntu in windows then you'll need to specify that in the ubuntu installer later
[15:31] <aaron11> flan_suse--> Did this hapen many times
[15:31] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok let's try booting your system in question in live cd (karmic koala)
[15:31] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ok...booting brb from another pc
[15:31] <coordinador> Hi, i have no sound
[15:31] <aaron11> flan_suse
[15:31] <flan_suse> aaron11, it always happens.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip1> mbeierl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308792
[15:31] <sipior> flan_suse: generally because unix systems don't like filesystems to vanish without being specifically unmounted.
[15:32] <coordinador> i had before but i dont know why dont have now
[15:32] <sal_> hi all
[15:32] <aaron11> flan_suse--> Even after rebooting
[15:32] <aaron11> !hi | sal_
[15:32] <flan_suse> aaron11, but on Jaunty I am able to eject from the drive's eject button and it works.
[15:32] <rafal> kostkon, I don't suppose there is ANY way of transferring a working install from a previous HD to a new "partition" ... is there?
[15:32] <sal_> just installed lucid in another partition, and now grub2 doesn't let me boot karmic
[15:32] <sipior> flan_suse: that so? interesting.
[15:32] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip1: that looks promising, thanks.  Google just wasn't being my friend today and I couldn't get anywhere :(
[15:32] <aaron11> flan_suse--> It must be a missing driver
[15:32] <flan_suse> aaron11, now I must always eject from the OS. I thought the eject button sends a signal to unmount the volume then eject the disc.
[15:32] <sal_> how I can fix grub2?
[15:33] <jongbergs> !grub2 | sal_
[15:33] <aaron11> Hey does anyone know a driver that lets you eject from the drive?
[15:33] <kostkon> rafal, i suppose it is feasible
[15:33] <aaron11> !eject
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> mbeierl: jeeves knows much ;)
[15:33] <flan_suse> I'm confused with this whole "no more HAL, only DeviceKit and PolicyKit" deal.
[15:33] <zash> rafal: just mount and copy
[15:33] <DeeTah> what's supposed to be mounted in /cow at an install stage?
[15:33] <salissou> allo
[15:33] <Snausages> rafal: I'd think you could use dd to move the working one into the new partition
[15:33] <xukun> how can I see if auto refresh rate is working?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: sudo eject /dev/sr0
[15:33] <marek> folks -- where's grub's menu.lst in new ubuntu?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: will eject the CD tray
[15:34] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2 | marek
[15:34] <Infin1ty> why is the java verison on karmic still 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04?
[15:34] <Snausages> rafal: you'd then have to go fix up grub to know about that new copy.  I don't know anything about that part.
[15:34] <marek> ActionParsnip1: oh, grub2!
[15:34] <aaron11> ActionParsnip1--> No I want to know a driver that lets you eject from the eject button
[15:34] <ActionParsnip1> marek: yep
[15:34] <rafal> mmm.... sounds complicated
[15:34] <aaron11> flan_suse--> Talk to ActionParsnip1
[15:34] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: ?
[15:35] <gasull> Can anybody help me with this output compiling the kernel with apt-build? http://dpaste.com/121111/
[15:35] <ralchev> kostkon, still getting the message :\
[15:35] <Snausages> rafal: I expect it is.  But I bet it would work...
[15:35] <kostkon> ralchev, :S
[15:35] <aaron11> ActionParsnip1--> Because flan_suse cant eject from the button on his cd drive
[15:35] <xukun> how can I see which refresh rate the movei is playing?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: i see
[15:35] <ralchev> kostkon, if I could install something else for playing DVDs?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: does: sudo eject /dev/sr0   wok ok?
[15:36] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, going to try.
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> *work
[15:36] <rafal> oh well ... I'll just start from blank space ... give me a chance to throw out things I've been "saving" for no good reason
[15:36] <aaron11> ActionParsnip1--> He can eject from the OS
[15:36] <aaron11> flan_suse--> It will work
[15:36] <Talva> Someone know a way to launch a VNC client in listen mode? (sorry for my english...)
[15:36] <kostkon> ralchev, eh, if you are using kaffeine, try using the default player, totem, for example.
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: you need to unmount the CD first before you try the button
[15:36] <kostkon> ralchev, do you still have it?
[15:36] <aaron11> Talva--> Use x11vnc
[15:36] <xukun> anybody?
[15:37] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, yes, sudo eject /dev/sr0 works (it opens up the disc drive)
[15:37] <ralchev> kostkon, yes i still have the error, i can play the dvd with the default player but I dont get the DVD menu and chapters are not listed also
[15:37] <aaron11> flan_suse--> told you!
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: is there a disk in the drive?
[15:37] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, isn't the eject button on the drive supposed to send a signal to unmount first before ejecting?
[15:37] <aaron11> ActionParsnip1--> That doesnt matter
[15:37] <PaulieWalnuts> can anyone tell me how to boot my system ? i installed karmic to sda3 (ext4 /) using a iso on drive c: and unetbootin. now i cant boot it, cause no menu entries in grub when pc boots. but i have grub already in mbr.what to do?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: oh it doesnt eject either way?
[15:37] <kostkon> ralchev, did you try again now that you have installed the restricted-extras. if not, try again with totem
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: with a disk in or not?
[15:38] <ralchev> ah
[15:38] <kleftisx> jongbergs : im back
[15:38] <ralchev> kostkon,  yes i tried now, it works lol :D
[15:38] <DeeTah> my kubuntu netbook install says it can't mount /cow. how to check why?
[15:38] <Talva> ok, i try aaron11
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: it should but something isnt right so we need to investigate
[15:38] <kostkon> ralchev, nice
[15:38] <sipior> flan_suse: if a process is accessing any file in that filesystem, it won't be unmounted.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: is there a CD in the drive?
[15:38] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, sudo eject /dev/sr0 works fine when there is a disc in the drive. (It unmounts first, then the drive opens up the tray.)
[15:38] <jongbergs> ActionParsnip1 aaron11 flan_suse : sudo eject -t should also work..AFAIK
[15:38] <hellyeah>  cat b.txt | grep 2000 |  wc -l > a.txt
[15:38] <ralchev> kostkon, default player now shows the menu and the chapters like it should be
[15:39] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, but when I press the "eject button" on my drive, nothing happens.
[15:39] <ralchev> kostkon, thank you again ;)
[15:39] <hellyeah> this command put 2000 and other character related to 200 put a.txt ?
[15:39] <kostkon> ralchev, :)
[15:39] <kleftisx> jongbergs : running now from live cd
[15:39] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: ok, if you push the disk back in and let it mount. Then if you unmount it, does the button work ok?
[15:39] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, going to try now.
[15:39] <aaron11> jongbergs--> He wants to eject from the button
[15:39] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, you mean manually unmount first, then push the eject button?
[15:39] <jongbergs> kleftisx: how do you managed to connect?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: we just need to work out whenit works, when it doesnt sowe canpinpoint the issue
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: manually mount, then manually unmount, then button
[15:40] <aaron11> ActionParsnip1--> Is there a need for a driver to do that?
[15:40] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  i have download xchat using live cd. im currently in live session :P
[15:40] <Infin1ty> Is there a repo for java to karmic? i can't use websites with java in firefox, they simply crash and i need to update it, any repos?
[15:40] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, okay.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: i think its a gconf thing, not a driver
[15:40] <QRZ> hellyeah: No.  It will count the number of lines that contain the string, "2000" and write the numeric value to a file.
[15:40] <jongbergs> kleftisx: good to hear that : )
[15:40] <PaulieWalnuts> can anyone tell me how to boot my system ? i installed karmic to sda3 (ext4 /) using a iso on drive c: and unetbootin. now i cant boot it, cause no menu entries in grub when pc boots. but i have grub already in mbr.what to do?
[15:40] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, yes.
[15:40] <kostkon> Infin1ty, which java do you have?
[15:40] <aaron11> flan_suse--> working?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: i always use the .bin file personally
[15:40] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  =]
[15:40] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, run the terminal
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: ok so it came out?
[15:41] <kostkon> Infin1ty, sun java or openjdk, the default jvm that is
[15:41] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  yes
[15:41] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, yup.
[15:41] <Infin1ty> kostkon, i want to use sun'so ne
[15:41] <Infin1ty> sun's one*
[15:41] <xtsuname> hi, can I ask for help on QT Qsound here?
[15:41] <QRZ> hellyeah: What are you trying to accomplish?
[15:41] <YeTr2> apparently once per install isn't enough, I also have to do it during the upgrades. How do I disable Network Manager?
[15:41] <aaron11> flan_suse--> Does it work the button
[15:41] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, i can't figure out how to install the bin, no readme in there
[15:41] <xtsuname> I get this errors when I compile my program
[15:41] <xtsuname> Audio Error:  BadBucket
[15:41] <xtsuname>   Request Major code 7 ()
[15:41] <xtsuname>   Error Serial #2
[15:41] <xtsuname>   Current Serial #2
[15:41] <FloodBot3> xtsuname: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: ok then manually mount the disk, then press the button then in a terminal run:   dmes | tail
[15:41] <jongbergs> kleftisx: first, we need to create a directory under /mnt to mount the ubuntu partition
[15:41] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, okay.
[15:41] <mobi-sheep> why does meff change his nickname one too many? This is happening constantly. :<
[15:41] <gasull> madhu__: I think there isn't enough information in your link.  Do you have more output?  Anyway, if you are coding in Python you might need to add an int(...) somewhere.  Maybe you should try in a channel for postgres or Python.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: want a nice script to do it for you?
[15:42] <kostkon> Infin1ty, then install it from the repos, including the plugin, and then run the update java alternatives cmd to set it as the default jvm
[15:42] <jongbergs> kleftisx: in the terminal, type sudo fdisk -l
[15:42] <Infin1ty> kostkon, i can't find a repo for java!
[15:42] <Infin1ty> kostkon, it is unsupported in karmic
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: you on 64bit ubuntu or 32bit?
[15:42] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, when you say manually mount, you mean via the GUI? or via the terminal with sudo mount /dev/cdrom ?
[15:42] <Infin1ty> kostkon, i just realized that this actually makes ff crash
[15:42] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, 64bit
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: whatever, just get it mounted
[15:42] <qos> hey guys. i guess you all aware of this nasty flash bug. i know how to fix it manually, but i prefer to wait for fixed packages. but they are still not released. why does this take so much time?
[15:42] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, okay.
[15:42] <jongbergs> kleftisx: can you post the output of sudo fdisk -l to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:42] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  ok
[15:42] <YeTr2> looking for information on how to perminatly turn off networkmanager in karmic
[15:43] <ldiamond> Anyone know why my CPU gets stuck at 50% when I wake up from sleep? (Ubuntu 9.10)
[15:43] <mobi-sheep> qos: Not everybody here are aware of nasty flash bug. Do tell us about it and the fix. ;o
[15:43] <aaron1> does anybody know how to install a soundcard with ubuntu?
[15:43] <hellyeah> QRZ, i try to write  strings which is contained by a.txt to another file like b.txt
[15:43] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/320081/
[15:43] <aaron1> my computer recognizes it but i can't get sound
[15:43] <jongbergs> YeTr2: you may try removing the network-manager
[15:43] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, I realized something: When I check in /media the volume is mounted with root:root (as the owner and group.)
[15:43] <aaron11> aaron1--> Hey! you coppied my name! :D
[15:43] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok consulting..
[15:43] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, dmesg shows nothing when I mount and then try to eject the disc.
[15:44] <aaron1> hahah, my bad! :P
[15:44] <jongbergs> kleftisx: /dev/sda7 must be the root partition
[15:44] <YeTr2> jongbergs: and it'll either uninstall ubuntu-desktop with will mess with my updates during the next upgrade.
[15:44] <QRZ> hellyeah: So something like, "grep <some_string> a.txt > b.txt" should do that.
[15:44] <hellyeah> i guess
[15:45] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  yes
[15:45] <QRZ> hellyeah: problem solved!  :-)
[15:45] <hellyeah> wbut
[15:45] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, would my fstab entry have anything to do with it?
[15:45] <hellyeah> no
[15:45] <hellyeah> i guess
[15:45] <hellyeah> because
[15:45] <hellyeah> let say we have a 2000 in b.txt
[15:45] <YeTr2> jongbergs: I used to be able to set an option in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf and networkmanager wouldn't try to do anything.
[15:45] <Guest84845> asd
[15:45] <qos> mobi-sheep, take a look at the offical bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/410407 its a very common bug.
[15:45] <hellyeah> it write a.txt from b.txt both 2000 and a
[15:45] <aaron11> flan_suse--> Is it any cd or a blank cd
[15:46] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, from the terminal type sudo mkdir /mnt/sda7
[15:46] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, here is what the entry looks like (default): /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
[15:46] <hellyeah> but i have to use one string like 2000
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: fstab is how partitions are mounted but the button should still do its trick
[15:46] <hellyeah> i try to do that
[15:46] <mobi-sheep> qos: Will take a look now.
[15:46] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  i have done it
[15:46] <capuzino> Can someone help me with Ubuntu 9.10?
[15:46] <aaron11> ActionParsnip1--> How is it a partiton problem
[15:46] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that root owns the mount?
[15:46] <zash> !ask | capuzino
[15:46] <aaron11> capuzino--> What!
[15:46] <capuzino> i need to install my Connectbird to get my wlan work
[15:46] <hellyeah> okey
[15:46] <Talva> aaron11,  Can you tell me how it works please, i tryed x11vnc -listen 5500 unsuccessfull
[15:46] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, shouldn't it be the regular user account that owns the mounted volume?
[15:46] <hellyeah> problem solved
[15:46] <capuzino> when i install drivers it doesn't work
[15:47] <jongbergs> YeTr2: then you may also disable network manager from automatically load during start
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: http://pastie.org/701068   you will need to manually update it as it isnt via a package but that will give you 64bit sun java, make sure you remove the othr javas
[15:47] <hellyeah> but it erase all string in other file QRZ
[15:47] <aaron11> Talva--> I know a friendly system admin
[15:47] <hellyeah> just it put the string from b.txt
[15:47] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, so remove first with apt-get remove?
[15:47] <aaron11> Talva--> He is in the chanel #yafaray
[15:47] <jongbergs> kleftisx: is it done?
[15:47] <hellyeah> but it causes of diseppearing other string in a.txt
[15:47] <Natanaiel> does ubuntu installed beside win 7?
[15:47] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  yes
[15:47] <aaron11> Talva--> His name is subcomandante
[15:47] <Talva> ok thank you aaron11
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> aaron1i never said it was. i'm saying its not, flan_suse proposed it as a possible problem maker
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: sure
[15:48] <QRZ> hellyeah: grep '2000' b.txt > a.txt      <---  That will write all lines in b.txt that contain the string, "2000" to a text file named, "a.txt."
[15:48] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, also, the label for the CD Drive doesn't change when I eject it. It still says "Data Disc" even though there is nothing inside. And if I replace it with another disc (with a different label) it still doesn't update, so it starts to get confusing.
[15:48] <jongbergs> kleftisx: type sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda7
[15:48] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, hmm , okay thanks, i thnk the main problem comes from canonical firefox
[15:48] <QRZ> hellyeah: Is that what you are trying to do?
[15:48] <Natanaiel> does ubuntu installed beside win 7?
[15:48] <hellyeah> yeah
[15:48] <hellyeah> for example
[15:48] <jongbergs> kleftisx: verify by doing ls -l /mnt/sda7
[15:49] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: my fstab entry is identical to yours for my optical drive
[15:49] <DeeTah> http://www.nopaste.pl/hkz
[15:49] <DeeTah> that's what's in casper.log
[15:49] <jasonmchristos> does flac ripping with rhythmbox really make perfect copies i think i hear distortion
[15:49] <DeeTah> any ideas what got screwed?
[15:49] <FloodBot3> DeeTah: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <hellyeah> i have a 2000 b 2000 c 3000 and b.txt a b c
[15:49] <jongbergs> kleftisx: you should be see the contents of your root partition
[15:49] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, when you insert a disc, is it mounted with the user as the owner, or root as the owner?
[15:49] <hellyeah> i want to see  a 2000 b 2000 c 2000 a b c
[15:49] <DeeTah> FloodBot3: thhat's what I just did.
[15:49] <hellyeah> or something like that
[15:49] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  im not seeing anything just "total 0"
[15:49] <capuzino> here is hard to ask help...
[15:50] <duffman> I need help finding out how to tweak the default installation of likewise-open.
[15:50] <mbeierl> duffman: what help do you need
[15:50] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, even if it means re-installing certain packages, I don't mind, as long as it works as it should.
[15:50] <mobi-sheep> qos: Thanks. I'll try it. Since I did experience some of the said issues.
[15:50] <duffman> more specifically changing the default retry policy for failed authentications
[15:51] <YeTr2> jongbergs: really, and howwould I do that?
[15:51] <QRZ> hellyeah: I guess I'm not following...  If you want to change the 3000 to 2000, you could use sed (sed 's/3000/2000/g').
[15:51] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  maybe i have to mount first the root partition ?
[15:51] <Roasted> Hey guys - I'm getting an error when trying to scan computers over the network with ClamAV. Something about no database files found in /usr/local/share/clamav. Everywhere I read it says just do an update of clamav, and I did, but the error persists. Any ideas?
[15:51] <capuzino> do nayone here know what helps to get wlan work in linux wit Connectbird wireless lan usb
[15:51] <DeeTah> DAMNIT
[15:51] <qos> mobi-sheep, :) your welcome
[15:51] <hellyeah> QRZ,  nope
[15:51] <duffman> i was able to successfully join the AD and login, but when i test with a bad password the account gets locked out
[15:51] <jongbergs> YeTr2: System > Preferences > Startup applications
[15:51] <DeeTah> is there really nobody familiar with the ubuntu install process?
[15:51] <capuzino> because can't find help from anywhere internet
[15:52] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, here is what I know. If I comment out the entry in fstab, my user owns the mounted volume in /media when I insert a disc. If I don't comment out the fstab entry, then root owns the mount. However, either way, I can only eject through the terminal or Nautilus. My drive's eject button does nothing when there is a disc in the drive.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: looks like my download bit in my script is bad as the outputted file name is not the same as a manual download, if you download the  "Linux x64 *  filesize:   19.3 MB "  file to ~ then just remove the wget command you'll be fine
[15:52] <mgv2> why does the help of print screen button opened after a minute?
[15:52] <jongbergs> kleftisx: really? based from the output of fdisk, /dev/sda7 should be your root partition
[15:52] <digitalfiz> what needs to be installed fo gcc can compile with -m32?
[15:52] <QRZ> hellyeah: Sorry then, I just don't understand what you are trying to accomplish so I can't help you.
[15:52] <duffman> i logged the network traffic using wireshark and it looks like it retries 5 times
[15:52] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, i understood how to script worked, i just linked like yoiu told me, anyhow it seems as there is other version i can't see, since i get *16 in the addons, and not *17 version
[15:53] <wers> if i dont create a swap partition, does it mean that i cant hibernate?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: when you press it is there any suuitable output in dmesg to show it was pressed
[15:53] <jasonmchristos> you "volunteers"  arent bieng held at gunpoint in africa to do this are you?
[15:53] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  yes i know that. but the disk is not mounted i must mount it?
[15:53] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, none at all.
[15:53] <YeTr2> jongbergs: yeah. I've already disabled it from the init scripts. it's not supposed to start up, yet it does start up every time. and every time is breaks my network because I require a statically configured network.
[15:53] <icehawk78> if I have a directory of files, how can I search inside any of them for lines containing 'mysql'?
[15:53] <QRZ> jasonmchristos: I hope not!
[15:53] <ravi> how do i rename my drive on ubuntu?
[15:53] <ravi> does any1 know?
[15:53] <jongbergs> kleftisx: yes, we want to mount it under /mnt/sda7 directory
[15:53] <ldiamond> Anyone know why my CPU gets stuck at 50% when I wake up from sleep? (Ubuntu 9.10)
[15:53] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: good you understood it, are there any java packages on the system for plugins, maybe about : plugins will give some clues
[15:54] <ActionParsnip1> !label | ravi
[15:54] <YeTr2> Does anyone know how to disable networkmanager without uninstalling it?
[15:54] <mobi-sheep> qos: For confirmation, what workaround did you use?
[15:54] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, hmm looks like there is, but i can't see how firefox got them.., it's really weird, all worked fine until i upgraded to karmic
[15:54] <jasonmchristos> QRZ: i hope not too, some poor african tourist get held up to do ubuntu support and little do we know the african govmnt has a data mining operation just like those scammers on ebay use peoples old hard drives and sell family photos for commercial ads
[15:54] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: dpkg -l | grep java    show anything useful?
[15:54] <iceroot> how to get a random-string on the shell with 8 chars?
[15:54] <Hajex> Hi.. I upgrade my system to 8.10.but bluetooth is stop working ..any suggestion ?
[15:54] <duffman> mbeierl: any ideas?
[15:54] <jrib> iceroot: try #bash
[15:55] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, ye i now see there is some, i'm removing them
[15:55] <PaulieWalnuts> hi
[15:55] <antti808> homo
[15:55] <PaulieWalnuts> i cant boot my system
[15:55] <qos> mobi-sheep, none :) i prefer to wait for fixed packages
[15:55] <PaulieWalnuts> help
[15:55] <jongbergs> YeTr2: what ubuntu version are you using right now?
[15:55] <QRZ> jasonmchristos: It
[15:55] <jrib> iceroot: if you're trying to generate a password, try pwgen
[15:55] <jongbergs> kleftisx: how is it going on?
[15:55] <mbeierl> duffman: sorry - reading back over your comments now... didn't realize you were msging...
[15:55] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, I noticed another thing. I cannot eject the disc from other applications. (VLC, Brasero, RhythmBox, etc.) It says "Cannot unmount volume. An application is preventing the volume from being unmounted."
[15:55] <QRZ> jasonmchristos: ...it's a strange world...
[15:55] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: watch what else they remove. I think openoffice needs it
[15:55] <antti808> th
[15:55] <antti808> fgh
[15:55] <antti808> gfh
[15:55] <antti808> gh
[15:55] <antti808> fgh
[15:55] <FloodBot3> antti808: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <antti808> fg
[15:55] <jrib> antti808: stop please
[15:55] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  i have mount root partition and make rmdir and again mkdir and again "0 total"
[15:56] <jasonmchristos> jayne: kick him out
[15:56] <antti808> en osaa englantia
[15:56] <jrib> !fi | antti808
[15:56] <antti808> joo kiitos
[15:56] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, well, now i use the new version, but websites with js still stuck, if i use a new profile it works well, but i don't want to use a new profile (i got all my bookmarks and all my history in there...)
[15:56] <antti808> #ubuntu-fi
[15:56] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: i'm unsure then, very weird
[15:56] <mbeierl> duffman: not off hand - just checking are you using likewise 4 or 5 for ubuntu?
[15:56] <jrib> antti808: english only here in #ubuntu, type:   /join #ubuntu-fi
[15:57] <jongbergs> kleftisx: what could be wrong, the other partitions area not linux partitions
[15:57] <Soyo> ./join #ubuntu-fi
[15:57] <pierrick> hi!
[15:57] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, it's difficult to burn CDs because of this.
[15:57] <Roasted> Hey guys - I'm getting an error when trying to scan computers over the network with ClamAV. Something about no database files found in /usr/local/share/clamav. Everywhere I read it says just do an update of clamav, and I did, but the error persists. Any ideas?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: you could export the favourites etc then use the new profile
[15:57] <duffman> mbeierl: 5 for ubuntu 9.10
[15:57] <ActionParsnip1> flan_suse: i can imagine
[15:57] <PaulieWalnuts> ActionParsnip1, how can i boot my system ? i reinstalled grub to mbr and it doesnt see my frickin ubuntu install
[15:57] <capuzino> this is hopeless...
[15:57] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, but then i lose all of my history.. and i don't think i'm going to do that on like 100 computers right now
[15:57] <ActionParsnip1> PaulieWalnuts: no idea, ask the channel
[15:57] <Aciid> my karmic coala install did not find the old grub
[15:57] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, it seems as canonical really screwed up this time
[15:57] <Aciid> to replace
[15:57] <Aciid> now I get error 15
[15:57] <mbeierl> duffman: that's what I'm using here too and have not seen any lock out due to 5 attempts, but then did not check my network traffic either...
[15:57] <jrib> !wifi > capuzino
[15:57] <sipior> capuzino: you might try asking a better question, friend.
[15:57] <Aciid> where is my old grub?
[15:57] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, I actually destroyed a CD-RW from being used again. It tried to burn and erase the CD-RW at the same time, lol! Now nothing can even read the disc anymore, so I can't erase it.
[15:57] <FloodBot3> Aciid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:58] <YeTr2> jongbergs: karmic
[15:58] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: well its firefox really, they coded their browser
[15:58] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/320093/
[15:58] <PaulieWalnuts> guys
[15:58] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, hmm, it's not firefox, it's something with canonical version only.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip1> PaulieWalnuts: if you'd ask the channel first, you wouldnt have to ask twice
[15:58] <Aciid> hey
[15:58] <Aciid> where is my old grub?
[15:58] <YeTr2> jongbergs: network manager keeps killing my network connection, so my responce till will be affected.
[15:58] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, i got another 25 pcs with arch on them, never had that problem before, and when i ran jaunty, didn't have problems as well
[15:59] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: well it works with the new profile so the system is fine, its your profile which is preventing the java
[15:59] <duffman> mbeierl: well the policy is 3 retries for a lock out. but the thing is that i only have to type in 1 bad attempt and likewise makes about 5, from what i can tell
[15:59] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, can you do this again, sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda7
[15:59] <jongbergs> kleftisx: then ls -l /mnt/sda7
[15:59] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, but i wonder why..., everytime ff updates it self i will need to create a new profile on 100 pcs? it does not sounds like a workaround for me, it sounds as bug.
[15:59] <PaulieWalnuts> i installed karmic trough unetbootin to a hd partition. i have sda1 and sda2 windows partitions. sda3 is / ext4 and sda4 is swap. i installed grub to sda. now when the pc boots i cant see ubuntu in the list only Memory Test and Windows 7(loader). help pls
[16:00] <jongbergs> YeTr2: try this sudo update-rc.d -f remove network-manager
[16:00] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  according to mtab, /dev/sda7 is mounted on /media/7d309a8f-cf59-4861-bb4d-3f195c8f4b5d
[16:00] <mbeierl> duffman: so it would appear from your config.  I'm part of a corporate login here and I do not know what our lockout policy is, but I've not hit that before...  I presume you've tried posting to the likewise mail lists?  I find them to be somewhat responsive
[16:00] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: well you have settings and all manner of stuff in there so who knows. You will only need to rerun the binary to create the folder, put it on each and remove, then recreate the link to the new folder name, all of which can be easily scripted
[16:01] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: i've given up on the repo java, i use the java file from the folks whom make java
[16:01] <duffman> mbeierl: not yet, i was hoping someone here might have seen this before
[16:01] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip1, and all, thanks for trying to help, anyways. I'll see what I can do later.
[16:01] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, ye , i understand you, thanks anyhow
[16:01] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, let's unmount it first, type sudo umount /dev/sda7
[16:01] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: you may find its just that one systems firefox profile at fault and the others are ok
[16:01] <jongbergs> kleftisx: then, sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda7
[16:01] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, not by the phones i get :P
[16:02] <wrapster> if i have windows setup on (hd0,0) which im now booting via grub( by adding rootnoverify (hd0,0) ; chainloader +1 ;boot) would setup (hd0) install grub on it and let me boot into windows?
[16:02] <digitalfiz> how would i make gcc like these: CFLAGS=-m32 LDFLAGS=-m32
[16:02] <duffman> mbeierl: thanks for your help, i try the mail list
[16:02] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  finally :D now i can see the content of /mnt/sda7
[16:02] <wrapster> could anyone please help me?
[16:03] <shrike-9> wrapster, wait
[16:03] <jongbergs> kleftisx: that's good..
[16:03] <wrapster> shrike-9: ok.
[16:03] <Hajex> Hi.. I upgrade my system to 8.10.but bluetooth is stop working ..any suggestion ?
[16:03] <guitarman814> hey everyone :)  whenever someone has a chance could someone help me get my sound working?
[16:03] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  yes
[16:03] <oty> how do i process bin/cue files in ubuntu?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: try a better browser then
[16:03] <oty> i want to mount it to a virtual cd rom drive
[16:04] <oty> and then run the cd
[16:04] <ActionParsnip1> oty: can you clarify "process"
[16:04] <YeTr2> jongbergs: nope, it still gets started
[16:04] <YeTr2> jongbergs: it keeps deleting my /etc/resolv.conf
[16:04] <shrike-9> wrapster, i was looking for my setup
[16:04] <ActionParsnip1> oty: you can use bchunk to make an ISO from the files
[16:04] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, that's no option but thanks, i will just build my own firefox package
[16:04] <shrike-9> i've grub with dualboot
[16:04] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok type sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/sda7/dev
[16:04] <wrapster> shrike-9:ok
[16:04] <PaulieWalnuts> Hey guys.I installed karmic trough unetbootin to a hd partition by booting the iso on drive C: i have sda1 and sda2 windows partitions. sda3 is / ext4 and sda4 is swap.Install went fine. i installed grub to sda, i have it in mbr. now when the pc boots i cant see ubuntu in the list only Memory Test and Windows 7(loader). tried fixing grub with chroot by following documentation on ubuntu website. no use, i still cant boot my install. h
[16:04] <PaulieWalnuts> elp pls!
[16:04] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  done it
[16:05] <oty> ActionParsnip1, ok what program can i use to make a virtual drive to run it on? :> thanks btw :D
[16:05] <DarrenTod> My brightness keeps going down too 0, then when I try too change it using FN + Brightness up it goes crazy and the brightness goes up and down for a min or 2. I have an MSI netbook
[16:05] <wrapster> shrike-9: do you think what i said would work?
[16:05] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok the type sudo chroot /mnt/sda7
[16:05] <Laurenceb> can I setup a printer if I know its ip address?
[16:06] <Infin1ty> ActionParsnip1, well, (firefox:10908): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead i do get this error in the terminal
[16:06] <ActionParsnip1> PaulieWalnuts: boot to liveCD and reinstall grub,it will hopefully detect the boots, if not mount the ubuntu partitions and you may need to add extra entries in the files in /etc/grub.d to get the boot
[16:06] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  done it
[16:06] <ActionParsnip1> Infin1ty: you will I get tht with chromium too, works fine
[16:06] <shrike-9> wrapster, # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[16:06] <shrike-9> # on /dev/sda1
[16:06] <shrike-9> title		Windows Vista (loader)
[16:06] <shrike-9> rootnoverify	(hd0,0)
[16:06] <shrike-9> savedefault
[16:06] <shrike-9> makeactive
[16:06] <FloodBot3> shrike-9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <jongbergs> kleftisx: what's the output of the command uname -a
[16:07] <shrike-9> sorry
[16:07] <jongbergs> kleftisx: have you encountered any errors after chrooting?
[16:07] <rafal> OK, Ubuntu's installer is acting retarded
[16:07] <shrike-9> wrapster, did you get it
[16:07] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  Linux ubuntu 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:07] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: did you MD5 test the ISO you are using?
[16:07] <rafal> yes
[16:07] <wrapster> shrike-9: ok thats coz you already have a dualboot machine.. what I had was a dual boot machine.. now I've removed it off to make space for some really important stuff on windows.. and struggling to get it up automatically
[16:07] <rafal> the Prepare Disk screen is confusing as crap
[16:08] <jongbergs> kleftisx: have you encountered any errors after chrooting?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: then its orking fine, you just dont understand it
[16:08] <rafal> I've just installed Win7 (first) which made a 100MB partition, and then took 1/2 the 500Gb disk ... 500Gb free space
[16:08] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  nop i don't think so :p
[16:08] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: ok good start
[16:08] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok that should be fine..
[16:08] <rafal> "install side by side" ... can I assume it'll use the FREE SPACE on the top bar, not the 7Gb it's seeing on the bottom?
[16:09] <kleftisx> jongbergs : so now?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: i suggest you use custom partitioning so you know it wont touch your windows partition
[16:09] <Roasted> Hey guys - I'm getting an error when trying to scan computers over the network with ClamAV. Something about no database files found in /usr/local/share/clamav. Everywhere I read it says just do an update of clamav, and I did, but the error persists. Any ideas?
[16:09] <DarrenTod> My brightness keeps going down too 0, then when I try too change it using FN + Brightness up it goes crazy and the brightness goes up and down for a min or 2. I have an MSI netbook
[16:09] <Aciid> how to reinstall grub, without knowing where it resides
[16:09] <rafal> ok so I'll need /, /boot, and /usr right?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: have about 20Gb for /, 1xRAM for /swp and the rest for /home
[16:10] <rafal> OK thx
[16:10] <jongbergs> kleftisx: btw, were you able to run the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg a while ago?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: makes life easier if you gotta reinstall linux, just format the / partition and mark the home partition to be mounted as /home
[16:10] <kleftisx> jongbergs : in the recovery mode yes
[16:10] <rafal> ActionParsnip1, what what file-systems?
[16:11] <jongbergs> kleftisx: so, you are able to log in the recovery mode?
[16:11] <amrnet> !fglrx
[16:11] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: ext4 is fine for / and /home, /swp will be managed for you
[16:11] <kleftisx> jongbergs : you mean now? or before ?
[16:11] <conb123> Hi when i install a source package with apt-get where can i find that source, i just installed ov51x-jpeg-source but i don't know where to find it
[16:11] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: soe dont like ext4 and still use ext3, personal choice, default in karmi is ext4 for a normal installation
[16:12] <Delano-277532077> How do I disable/enable desktop show in gnome?
[16:12] <jongbergs> kleftisx: i mean after running dpkg-reconfigure?
[16:12] <rafal> so the last one is /home not /usr?
[16:12] <jrib> conb123: dpkg -L PACKAGE.  But make sure you read /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE/README*
[16:12] <kleftisx> jongbergs : only in recovery mode, no gnome
[16:12] <ActionParsnip1> rafal: yeah, you can make a seperate /usr if you so desire, but user docs are stored in /home
[16:12] <guitarman814> Is anyone available to help me get my sound working?
[16:13] <Alan502> Good Morning :) im plannning to change from my ubuntu x86 distribution to a x64; i am aware that there are driver compatibility problems with some computers. Does this happen with programs also? Do 32 bit apps work on 64?
[16:13] <billybigrigger> Alan502, yes, 32bit apps work on 64bit os, but not the other way around
[16:13] <jongbergs> kleftisx: i thought you're not able to boot in recovery mode..but you can?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip1> Alan502: you can use ia32-libs and run 32bit packages but you will need to satisfy 32bit deps too, 64bit is very supported so dont sweat drivers
[16:13] <lexxmt> Hi
[16:14] <lexxmt> anybody alive?
[16:14] <Laurenceb> can I setup a printer if I know its ip address?
[16:14] <jongbergs> !hi | lexxmt
[16:14] <rafal> ActionParsnip1, Thank you... it's formatting and installing now (went ext4) ...
[16:14] <YeTr2> jongbergs: found the issue. the upgrde thought it would be an awesome idea to replace /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf and reset the configuration without telling me.
[16:14] <Alan502> billybigrigger, ActionParsnip1 thanks for your replies :). Is there a way i can just change from x86 to x64 without re-installing? like a distro upgrade
[16:15] <kleftisx> jongbergs : no, i was able :P
[16:15] <lexxmt> Hi, I have boot problem, can anybody help me?
[16:15] <epinky> !anyone | lexxmt
[16:15] <jongbergs> kleftisx: let's get started using chroot at this time
[16:15] <billybigrigger> Alan502, no, im afraid not, you have to do a clean install
[16:15] <ActionParsnip1> Alan502: you need a clean install
[16:15] <jolaren> lexxmt: Depends, what's the problem?
[16:15] <YeTr2> ifup eth0
[16:16] <lexxmt> I use CentOS before, now I upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10 and boot stops at GRUB promts (leaved from CentOS)
[16:16] <kleftisx> jongbergs : from live session? or to restart and get in recovery mode?
[16:16] <Alan502> billybigrigger, ActionParsnip1 , thanks but is there a way i can pack my apps so i dont have to download them again from the synaptic pack manager?
[16:16] <lexxmt> In centos I have boot loader saved in MBR
[16:17] <ActionParsnip1> Alan502: unfortunately not, you can backup settings from /home and /etc
[16:17] <jongbergs> kleftisx: just stay in live session mode..ok type sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted-modules
[16:17] <lexxmt> how I say ubuntu to replace boot loader in MBR?
[16:17] <Alan502> ActionParsnip1, but not apps? just settings?
[16:17] <a6> hello
[16:17] <_Narc_> Hey everyone, can someone tell me where I can find the icon gnome-do is using for openoffice documents, because I need to change it's size, it's looks pixelated. Thanks
[16:17] <jongbergs> kleftisx: just stay in live session mode..ok type sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[16:17] <ActionParsnip1> Alan502: the apps are all 32bit so of no help to you
[16:17] <kleftisx> jongbergs : sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[16:18] <a6> i have error W: Impossible de récupérer http://ftp.crihan.fr/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg  Connexion à 192.168.0.1: 8123 (192.168.0.1) impossible, délai de connexion dépassé
[16:18] <Aciid> grub error 15 help, how do I proceed. I don't know where my grub is installed. i have booted karmic coala on live now
[16:18] <a6> unable to get update to 9.04 to koala9.10
[16:18] <jongbergs> kleftisx: just this only dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[16:18] <a6> how get update 0.10 terminal
[16:18] <a6> with terminal
[16:18] <Aciid> find /boot/grub/
[16:19] <kleftisx> jongbergs : done
[16:19] <kleftisx> jongbergs : change the uname to my ubuntu username or not?
[16:19] <jongbergs> kleftisx: not now
[16:19] <grawity> kleftisx: No, 'uname' is a command - leave it as it is.
[16:19] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ok i have done it
[16:20] <jongbergs> kleftisx: do you see any entries like linux-restricted*
[16:20] <Alan502> ActionParsnip1, oh ok, thanks for your help; appreciated :)
[16:20] <ziesemer> How can I disable NetworkManager in karmic?  I ran "update-rc.d -f NetworkManager remove", but something is still relaunching it.  I need to configure my interfaces manually.
[16:20] <DeeTah> i can't boot my kubuntu netbook off a pendrive. it says something about inability to mount /cow - what might be wrong?
[16:20] <rapha> Hi! Is there any way to encrypt & password protect a Tomboy note?
[16:21] <lexxmt> Anybody can help me? Or point to any RTFM?
[16:21] <kleftisx> jongbergs : silly question...but where to see entries? if i make ls? no i do not see any entries
[16:21] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | lexxmt
[16:21] <_Narc_> Hey everyone, can someone tell me where I can find the icon gnome-do is using for openoffice documents, because I want to change it's size, it's looks pixelated. Thanks
[16:21] <ActionParsnip1> lexxmt: its the default option, read the grub2 guiide and it will tell you how to install the bootloader
[16:22] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2 | lexxmt
[16:22] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, let's try apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[16:22] <kleftisx> jongbergs : E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.31-14-generic
[16:22] <tritium> ziesemer: network manager ignores manually-configured interfaces
[16:23] <Dick-van-Dijk> guten tag zusammen
[16:23] <ziesemer> tritium, what counts as "manually configured"?  Anything in /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:23] <hellyeah> is there anyway to compile matlab in terminal (ubuntu)
[16:23] <tritium> ziesemer: yes
[16:23] <jongbergs> kleftisx: how about dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:24] <lexxmt> I have boot problem in Ubuntu 9.10. Before I use Centos with boot loader on MBR plus some space on HDD. I migrate to Ubuntu 9.10, and choose use entry disk (I don't need dual boot system). After installing PC booting stops at GRUB prompt (very similar as I have in Centos, when I need run fsck)
[16:24] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  done
[16:24] <guitarman814> can someone help me get my sound to work in ubuntu 9.10
[16:24] <Aciid> how do I remove the old grub from MBR of partition
[16:24] <Aciid> just mount and rm the /boot?
[16:24] <jongbergs> kleftisx: kindly post the ouput of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:24] <PaulieWalnuts> guys, wheres the Karmic vmlinuz stored?
[16:24] <jongbergs> kleftisx: kindly post the ouput of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:25] <ziesemer> Why does NetworkManager just keep fighting with me then?  I.E., I did "/etc/init.d/networking stop".  Everything goes down, as expected.  NetworkManager then restarted things, including eth0.
[16:25] <a6> help me
[16:25] <sharperguy> Aciid, Are you a windows user?
[16:25] <gasull> Aciid: I don't think so
[16:25] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/320111/
[16:26] <gasull> Aciid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:26] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, wait..examining the file
[16:26] <guitarman814> can someone help me get my sound to work in ubuntu 9.10
[16:26] <Aciid> sharperguy & gasull I'm moderate linux user
[16:26] <epinky> Aciid: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 *(better don't do this)*
[16:27] <kostkon> guitarman814, what problem do you have with sound?
[16:27] <Aciid> epinky: I found out that too but it was bs=446
[16:27] <sharperguy> Aciid, I was just meaning if you wanted to replace it with the windows one or just remove it altogether
[16:27] <guitarman814> kostkon, i have no sound at all
[16:27] <rafal> Woohoo!  the dual-boot appears to be working OK ... now, as a quick question ... is there a theme/skin app for Ubuntu 9.10 that worked like gnome-artNG (since that doesn't work anymore)??
[16:27]  * digitalfiz waves his hands in the air i cant get gcc to accept -m32 can someone help please
[16:27] <Aciid> sharperguy: no, I have grub 0.97 and 1.97 I want to get rid of the older one
[16:28] <kostkon> guitarman814, does system → prefs → sound show any devices to setup?
[16:28] <mercutio22> I am on an eee pc, the touchpad button has to be held for aproximately 1s for the mouse click to work. I want to file a bug report but I don't know against what package. Any clues?
[16:28] <PaulieWalnuts> guys, wheres the Karmic vmlinuz stored?
[16:28] <Aciid> why is there no GUI application to remove MBR
[16:28] <Aciid> >.<
[16:28] <theclaw> Is it really not possible to change the scrollwheel speed for GTK+ (gnome) applications?
[16:28] <karmic> every where
[16:28] <jongbergs> kleftisx: just a minute
[16:28] <guitarman814> kostkon, it has 2 devices under hardware
[16:28] <sharperguy> Aciid, If you grub-install the new one to the mbr that should do it. And then delete any files related to the old one
[16:28] <kleftisx> jongbergs :  ok
[16:29] <kostkon> guitarman814, ok. that's something. try selecting the appropriate profile for the device you want to use
[16:29] <rapha> Hi! Is there any way to encrypt & password protect a Tomboy note?
[16:29] <guitarman814> kostkon, still nothing
[16:29] <karmic> Indonesia ??
[16:30] <SoujiroSeta> Hi all! I'm a game developper that is currently porting the QuantZ game to linux. There is a beta currently available and I'd like a little help with some issues about the game. If anyone is interested in beta testing the game, please join me in the #quantz channel. :) Thanks for your help!
[16:30] <Aciid> sharperguy: I didn't pay attention in the 9.10 install, now the new GRUB is installed on my storage drive. I am a moron. I should just get rid of both. then install a new one
[16:30] <Aciid> too complicated >.<
[16:30] <epinky> Aciid: if grub installer didn't work check Tom's Root Boot: http://www.toms.net/rb/
[16:30] <PaulieWalnuts> whers vmlinuz in karmic?
[16:30] <kostkon> guitarman814, do you see any device in output devices?
[16:30] <karmic> testy......
[16:30] <rudy986> join/#ubuntu-it
[16:30] <guitarman814> kostkon, i have 3 devices there
[16:31] <rudy986> join/ #ubuntu-it
[16:31] <Pici> rudy986: /join #ubuntu-it
[16:31] <kostkon> guitarman814, ok, select the device you want to use
[16:31] <sharperguy> Aciid, hmm ok. Well if you use "sudo grub-install <main drive>" (make sure NOT to specify a partition" that should install the new grub to the MBR. As for removing it from your storage drive I am not sure
[16:32] <sharperguy> Aciid, the main drive will be something like /dev/hda or /dev/sda for sata
[16:32] <karmic> hdhdh
[16:32] <Roasted> Hey guys - I'm getting an error when trying to scan computers over the network with ClamAV. Something about no database files found in /usr/local/share/clamav. Everywhere I read it says just do an update of clamav, and I did, but the error persists. Any ideas?
[16:32] <Aciid> sharperguy: ill try my luck
[16:32] <guitarman814> kostkon, still nothing, i dont think it shows my soundcard, i have my gfx card HDMI, and internal audio analog stereo
[16:32] <microlith> hmm
[16:33] <epinky> karmic: join #ubuntu-id
[16:33] <microlith> anyone happen to run into a case where the /dev/tty node will suddenly be converted from a device node into a regular file (particularly involving a system power loss?)
[16:33] <kostkon> guitarman814, could you give "aplay -l" in a terminal and post the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[16:33] <thorbj> Hi, I have a problem with my wifi card on an older HP laptop where I just installed ubuntu. Anyone here have some tips for me?
[16:33] <guitarman814> kostkon, sure gimme a sec
[16:33] <Jeruvy> Roasted: you may want to ask in #clamav
[16:34] <thorbj> I'm a newbie linux user
[16:34] <guitarman814> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/320116/
[16:34] <padhu> thorbj: what is the problem?
[16:34] <sqemishozifrage> I recently installed Karmic and am having issues with Bus Errors in all browsers under certain conditions.
[16:35] <thorbj> ipadhu: My wireless network doesn't show in the list
[16:35] <kostkon> guitarman814, i can see your onboard card. thus, the internal audio analog listed in output devices should be your soundcard
[16:35] <ugn> hello
[16:35] <GutZuWiSSeN> anyone got a repos with the current netatalk 2.0.5 ? thx
[16:35] <lexxmt> hi any ubuntu boot expert here?
[16:36] <guitarman814> kostkon, okay, but when i select that I still have no sound
[16:36] <ugn> i need help with connecting to my vpn
[16:36] <thorbj> padhu: I think there may be some problems with the drivers or something
[16:36] <ugn> anybody here to help?
[16:36] <thorbj> padhu: that the drivers my not be supported in 9.10 or something?
[16:36] <kostkon> guitarman814, what profiles do you get for it in hardware?
[16:36] <epinky> !ask | ugn
[16:36] <ganymede> ugn: how so?
[16:36] <padhu> thorjb: any error logs.....
[16:37] <thorbj> padhu: how do I find those? :P
[16:37] <ugn> i need to connect to my vpn at work epinky
[16:37] <lexxmt> ubottu: Can you help me fix boot issue?
[16:37] <ugn> i need to connect to my vpn at work | epinky
[16:37] <guitarman814> kostkon, all analog surround or analog stereo, i have my receiver plugged in via S/PDIF
[16:37] <thorbj> padhu: when I boot, I get some errors but it proceeds to the splash-screen to quickly
[16:38] <kostkon> guitarman814, receiver? what receiver?
[16:38] <Kravlin> wow. a bot programmed to tell people it's not human. awesome.
[16:38] <guitarman814> kostkon, for my speakers
[16:38] <epinky> ugn, what do you use? PPTP?
[16:38] <PaulieWalnuts> where is the kernel??
[16:38] <thorbj> padhu: so I don't get to read them before they're gone...
[16:38] <Kravlin> lexxmt: what's the problem? (not saying i'll neccesarily be able to help)
[16:38] <kostkon> guitarman814, ah, do you have wireless speakers?
[16:38] <ugn> yes | epinky
[16:38] <ffm_theQ> hi. I get no output from my geforce 9400 on an asus m2a-vm hdmi running 9.10 64bit. using the nvidia driver (v. 190)
[16:38] <guitarman814> kostkon, no they are wired
[16:39] <epinky> ugn: Ubuntu version, Gnome or KDE?
[16:39] <lexxmt> Kravlin: After replacing Centos with ubuntu, ubuntu want boot
[16:39] <ugn> gnome | epinky
[16:39] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Booting stops at GBUB prompt
[16:39] <Kravlin> won't?
[16:39] <kostkon> guitarman814, ah you mean the plug ok. so, you are using the hdmi port of your graphics card?
[16:39] <epinky> ugn, use Network Manager
[16:39] <Kravlin> lexxmt: so then grub isn't set up.
[16:40] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok
[16:40] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ?
[16:40] <Kravlin> lexxmt: do you know what partition ubuntu's on?
[16:40] <lexxmt> Kravlin: In centos I have boot manager in MBR, is Ubuntu replace it with own?
[16:40] <guitarman814> kostkon, i am using the digital out on my soundcard
[16:40] <padhu> thorbj: First we check up the hardware is detected by kernel by running command ; # ls psci | more
[16:40] <jongbergs> kleftisx: can you overwrite your xorg.conf file with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/320120/
[16:40] <ugn> i have done that. i have also created a vpn connection but it keeps failing to connect
[16:40] <epinky> ugn: error
[16:41] <jongbergs> kleftisx: type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:41] <ugn> i have done that. i have also created a vpn connection but it keeps failing to connect | epinky
[16:41] <Kravlin> lexxmt: if it noticed a previous install it may not have.
[16:41] <ugn> yes
[16:41] <epinky> ugn: we need the error code
[16:41] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Currently I booted from LiveCD. /dev/sdb1 as ext4 plus /dev/sdb2 (extended) and /dev/sdb5 linux-swap
[16:41] <jongbergs> kleftisx: copy the contents i have posted and paste into xorg.conf, and save
[16:41] <ugn> it doesn't give any error code
[16:41] <lexxmt> system boots from sdb
[16:42] <kleftisx> jongbergs : done
[16:42] <ugn> it just fails to connect
[16:42] <kostkon> guitarman814, hmm. what connectors are available in output for this device?
[16:42] <lexxmt> Kravlin: system boots from /dev/sdb
[16:42] <ganymede> UGN: firewall issues?
[16:42] <ugn> i can't tell
[16:42] <Kravlin> lexxmt: which one (sdb1 or sdb2) has ubuntu or your /boot partition on it?
[16:42] <Kravlin> lexxmt: better yet. which one has the boot flag?
[16:42] <X-Kent> can someone help me to install deluge webui ? I apt-get the deluge-webui but can't see the plugin !
[16:42] <darkhamm> i've a problem in sound-juicer
[16:42] <darkhamm> someone can help me?
[16:42] <ugn> ganymede: i can't tell
[16:43] <guitarman814> kostkon, for the output on the actual card? it has speakers, mic, sub, and digital out
[16:43] <jongbergs> kleftisx: have you saved it? verify closing the xorg.conf and opening it again by gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:43] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Ubuntu installed on /dev/sdb
[16:43] <kostkon> guitarman814, ok. try selecting digital out
[16:43] <kleftisx> jongbergs : i have verify, everything it's ok
[16:43] <^Einstein> lexxmt: can I help you?
[16:43] <X-Kent> how do I add deluge webui (jaunty) ?
[16:43] <kostkon> guitarman814, and the stereo profile in hardware
[16:43] <sqemishozifrage> I recently installed Karmic and am having issues with Bus Errors in all browsers under certain conditions. Any page of reasonable complexity produces this error. Disabling JavaScript helps, but not completely. Simple JavaScript pseudolinks work. I have output from gdb while reproducing the issue in Firefox. Does anyone know a fix or should I file a bug on launchpad?
[16:43] <guitarman814> kostkon, i dont have that as an option, it only has analog
[16:43] <Kravlin> lexxmt: i understand that. what i'm saying is that ubuntu has to be on one of the partitions.
[16:43] <kostkon> guitarman814, yeah, the analog one
[16:43] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, let try it by rebooting your machine normally, don't boot to live cd
[16:44] <ganymede> UGN: sudo ufw status
[16:44] <Kravlin> ^Einstein: it seems like grub didn't auto configure for him. so he can't boot.
[16:44] <thorbj> padhu: When I run that command I get the following error; ls: cannot access psci: No such file or directory
[16:44] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ok...quiting and hope to be back with no live cd :)
[16:44] <jongbergs> kleftisx: let's just hope
[16:44] <PaulieWalnuts> Guys, hows the kernel named and where is it located in 9.10 ? im trying to fix grub here and i cant find the kernel anywhere in the filesystem. pls help
[16:44] <ugn> inactive
[16:44] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Yes, I have only one OS
[16:45] <ffm_theQ> hi. my monitor gets no more input from my geforce 9400 after the first boot screen. mainboard: asus m2a-vm hdmi. I'm running 9.10 64bit and use the nvidia driver (v. 190)
[16:45] <kostkon> guitarman814, nothing?
[16:45] <thorbj> padhu: I tried to run it as "sudo", should I try somnething else?
[16:45] <guitarman814> nothing
[16:45] <^Einstein> Kravlin: ah, just curious, I got a couple CTCPs from him/her without any PM or explanation (which is fine).
[16:45] <ganymede> UGN: by default all ports are closed
[16:45] <padhu> thorbj: lspci | more
[16:45] <ganymede> UGN: sudo ufw enable
[16:45] <guitarman814> kostkon, but now my internal sound device is gone from output
[16:45] <ugn> ganymede: so wat shd i do?
[16:46] <PaulieWalnuts> Guys, hows the kernel named and where is it located in 9.10 ? im trying to fix grub here and i cant find the kernel anywhere in the filesystem. pls help
[16:46] <ugn> done
[16:46] <kostkon> guitarman814, aha. then try the other device.
[16:46] <Kravlin> lexxmt: so which partition is it on? you said that you have 3. one is obviously swap, but you have 2 other partitions. (unless you have an extended partition which you've put an ext4 partition but unless you've got a need for more than 4 partitions i don't know why)
[16:46] <kostkon> guitarman814, how is it called?
[16:46] <lexxmt> Kravlin: System is not dual boot. CentOS have boot manager stored in MBR and everything was fine. When I install ubuntu I choose: Use entry drive (so CentOS was wiped out, and Ubuntu remove all partitions that I have in CentOS and create single one)
[16:46] <HeK> hi all. is there anyone using ATI x550 video card ?
[16:47] <guitarman814> kostkon, i have the HDMI out, which isnt plugged in, and i have RTP multicast
[16:47] <Kravlin> lexxmt: got it. it was handled for you.
[16:47] <epinky> ugn: is pptp plugin installed?
[16:47] <PaulieWalnuts> Guys, hows the kernel named and where is it located in 9.10 ? im trying to fix grub here and i cant find the kernel anywhere in the filesystem. pls help
[16:47] <_Narc_> Hey everyone, can someone tell me where I can find the default icons gnome-do is using for openoffice documents, because I want to change it's size, it's looks pixelated. Thanks
[16:47] <Kravlin> ^Einstein: that's totally fine. Got a question for you tho. I haven't used ubuntu's self partitioner. any idea how it partitions stuff?
[16:47] <ugn> ganymede: yes it is
[16:47] <ganymede> UGN: sudo ufw allow 5900
[16:48] <lexxmt> Kravlin: I choose use entry drive, and ubuntu installer create 2 partitions: 1 primary (with ubuntu system) and 2nd partitons ubuntu installer create as extended and place logical partition on it with linux swap
[16:48] <^Einstein> Kravlin: "self-partitioner"? gparted?
[16:48] <ganymede> UGN: that will open up your port for vpn
[16:48] <kostkon> guitarman814, ok. so, you aren't using the hdmi at all. just the digital out of your onboard card
[16:48] <ugn> i have done that
[16:48] <Kravlin> ^Einstein: when you install :P he chose the managed option (I do it myself)
[16:48] <thorbj> padhu: that worked :) I found this in the result: 06:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[16:48] <guitarman814> kostkon, correct
[16:48] <kostkon> guitarman814, hmm. and you tried all the possible combos
[16:49] <Kravlin> lexxmt: got it. so the one primary with the system is sdb1?
[16:49] <guitarman814> kostkon, yes
[16:49] <lexxmt> Kravlin: yes
[16:49] <CountDown> Is there a version of the PPC port of Xubuntu 9.10 that fixes the oversized ISO bug?: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/daily/20091114/
[16:49] <^Einstein> Kravlin: the graphical installer just uses gparted, which uses all the safety checks of libparted
[16:49] <epinky> ugn: did you checked PAP, CHAP and MSCHAP?
[16:49] <lexxmt> Kravlin: In centos I have separate partition for /boot /tmp and /home, so all Centos partitions are wiped out :)
[16:49] <kostkon> guitarman814, and you don't have a digital option in the profiles drop down menu
[16:49] <epinky> ugn: did you check PAP, CHAP and MSCHAP?
[16:49] <^Einstein> I do not know the default parameters, however, Kravlin
[16:49] <kleftisx> jongbergs : finally back :D thanks a lot
[16:49] <guitarman814> kostkon, nope :(
[16:50] <Kravlin> lexxmt: ok. you're gonna need to edit /boot/grub/
[16:50] <Take0n> is it possible to make the gnome panel menu (applications places system) to create a second panel when the list of apps is full instead of adding pointers (up down)??
[16:50] <eix> [ubuntu-server] with the 2.6.27-15 kernel update my server is no more booting, I get a file not found error. I have digged the problem and by specifying the correct path (it needed /boot before the kernel and initrd filenames) i get an initramfs because of partition not found (it is specified with uuid). then I  specified root=auto and I got an /init syntax error at line 190 or something...
[16:50] <eix> ...like that (with kernel panic). will the 8.10 rescue disk fix this issue? please help me:(
[16:50] <^Einstein> like how big the swap is, etc.
[16:50] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: the kernel can be found at /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic, replacing the version string as needed.
[16:50] <kostkon> guitarman814, hmm
[16:50] <padhu> thorbj: good. Now your hardware is detected by kernel. Are you have an inrernet?
[16:50] <Kravlin> ^Einstein:ah. He chose the managed option instead of doing it himself. thanks tho.
[16:50] <ugn> yes i checked everything
[16:50] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior, i just installed a fresh install of 9.10 and i chrooted on the partition, theres no vmlinuz in /boot only initrd
[16:50] <jongbergs> kleftisx: it seems that the restricted driver
[16:50] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Any URL what I should fix here? I lilo user, so I have no GRUB expirience
[16:50] <padhu> with reliable speed?
[16:50] <_Narc_> Hey everyone, can someone tell me where I can find the default icons gnome-do is using for openoffice documents, because I want to change it's size, it's looks pixelated. Thanks
[16:50] <kleftisx> jongbergs : yeap was the restricted driver.
[16:50] <ugn> epinky: yes i checked everything
[16:51] <Kravlin> lexxmt: there should be a file named grub.lst or lst or something of the sort. sorry. my mind's kinda fuzzy. just got up :P
[16:51] <jongbergs> kleftisx: it seems that the ATI restricted driver will not work in Karmic at this moment
[16:51] <eix> any ideas? the server is stuck and I can't boot it
[16:51] <kleftisx> jongbergs : is there any possibility to have my graphic card running properly ?
[16:51] <GutZuWiSSeN> anyone got a repos with the current netatalk 2.0.5 ?
[16:51] <kostkon> guitarman814, so, in hardware you have 2 devices: hdmi and analog audio?
[16:51] <epinky> ugn: and no error?
[16:51] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: i would say your system is broken. sorry, which directory did you chroot to? and why?
[16:51] <thorbj> padhu: I have wireless connecten on my other laptop (the one I'm sitting at now). But I don't have any connection yet on the problem-laptop
[16:51] <guitarman814> kostkon, yes
[16:52] <ugn> the connection still fails
[16:52] <jongbergs> kleftisx: yes, but we need to find out whether proprietary or open source drivers will work out
[16:52] <Kravlin> lexxmt: the first entry should be for ubuntu's boot
[16:52] <Kravlin> make sure it's pointed to the right partition
[16:53] <ganymede> ugn: how is your computer at home connected? did you poke a hole through your router?
[16:53] <kleftisx> jongbergs : so to not install any driver until officially tested?
[16:53] <ganymede> UGN: router firewall^
[16:53] <ugn> i am at work
[16:53] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior,  i used unetbootin to boot iso on sda2( drive c:) of ubuntu 9.10 and install it to its own ext4 partition (sda3) and swap is sda4. sda1 is the win7 boot partiton.everything went fine, it installed. then i rebooted and no menu entries for ubuntu in the grub menu. i tried fixing grub by following related docs on ubuntu website to no avail. grub is in mbr and doesnt see my install. i chrooted to sda3 wich is / to manually add me
[16:53] <PaulieWalnuts> nu entries for grub, and now i cant find the damn kernel.
[16:53] <jongbergs> kleftisx: definitely.
[16:54] <lexxmt> Kravlin: In Centos /dev/sdb named as /dev/hda as it IDE drive and /dev/sda is SATA. BIOS configured to boot from IDE. If is Ok, that ubuntu named is as /dev/sdb not a /dev/hda?
[16:54] <ugn> ganymede: i am at work and im connected thru our wireless
[16:54] <jongbergs> kleftisx: can you post the output of lscpi -v | grep -i vga
[16:54] <jongbergs> kleftisx: jus post it directly here
[16:54] <jongbergs> kleftisx: run the command in terminal
[16:55] <Snausages> lscpi?
[16:55] <epinky> ugn: use pptpsetup via command line
[16:55] <kleftisx> jongbergs : http://paste.ubuntu.com/320128/
[16:55] <Kravlin> lexxmt: as long as both grub and ubuntu recognize that it's sdb instead of hda. sd is usually given to Sata drives instead of IDE drives but grub may not realize that. it should be fine.
[16:56] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: why not try a normal install?
[16:56] <padhu> thorbj: Search for driver to that card. IF it is not available, then we can use ndslwrapper
[16:56] <ugn> epinky: how do i do that?
[16:56] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior,  i dont have a cd burner or blank cds only a iso image
[16:56] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: also, is there a symlink at /vmlinuz?
[16:57] <fighter1> is there a way to decrease the subtitle font size in totem video player?
[16:57] <lexxmt> Kravlin: I see grub.cfg and no any grub.lst I check grub.cfg
[16:57] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: and what role does /dev/sda2 play in your setup?
[16:57] <jcrawford> hey guys in my Gnome-DO prefs I have it set to start on bootup of the machine however it is not starting up
[16:57] <jongbergs> kleftisx: ok, that's your video card. for now, let's just use the generic driver until we could find working drivers for it.
[16:57] <epinky> ugn: open a terminal and type "sudo pptp --help" to see options , then configure according to your needs
[16:57] <jcrawford> How can i make it auto start?
[16:57] <jongbergs> !ati
[16:58] <ganymede> ugn: you will have to excuse me...i was mislead, I thought you were trying to VNC
[16:58] <reggieP1234> hey folks can anyone help me to config a lynksis wireless usb adapter
[16:58] <epinky> ugn:"sudo pptpsetup --help" , sry
[16:58] <fighter1> is there a way to decrease the subtitle font size in totem video player?
[16:58] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Actualy grub.cfg look like script. here is line: "set root=(hd1,1)"
[16:58] <rooist47> hi I have a Lenovo G530 and no wifi detected with karmic ! can you help me please ?
[16:58] <ugn> ok
[16:58] <nastas> fighter1: did you search on totem's preferences?
[16:59] <fighter1> nastas: ya nothings there
[16:59] <kleftisx> jongbergs : in the website says that restricted drivers working with HD series
[16:59] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Line 21 "set root=(hd1,1)"
[16:59] <Melt> i have a serious question -- why is the latest ubuntu release so terrible (was there not enough time to test, rushed release, etc?), and is the next release going to be as bad?
[16:59] <jongbergs> kleftisx: which website?
[16:59] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior,  in the chrooted partition(sda3) theres  only initrd.img symlink to /boot/initrdwhatever , theres no vmlinuz in / .  in live cd in wich i am right now thers a broken symlink in / named vmlinuz and a broken symlink of initrd to missing files in /boot . sda2 is Drive C: for me hosting the iso and windows 7. sda1 is windows 7 boot partition. sda3 is my root partition and sda4 is swap
[16:59] <TigerCR1200> I seem to keep loosing the ability to click anything and the ability to alt tab any ideas?
[16:59] <Melt> the upgrade made two of my systems completely inoperable
[16:59] <jcrawford> gnome-do is in my startup applications
[16:59] <kleftisx> !ati
[16:59] <Melt> and then reinstalling from scratch didn't do much of anything
[17:00] <kleftisx> jongbergs : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:00] <Bear10> is ubuntu hackable?
[17:00] <Bear10> virus spyware anything
[17:00] <Melt> yes, in that it'll hack your keyboard and mouse so that they won't work at bootup
[17:00] <jrib> !virus | Bear10
[17:00] <kostkon> guitarman814, eh, could you check your hardware levels. you could install gnome-alsamixer for that.
[17:00] <Melt> or hack your soundcard from making any kind of sound output
[17:00] <jrib> Bear10: you don't need to worry about it, just use your computer
[17:01] <kravlin> lexxmt: menu.lst
[17:01] <fighter1> nastas: hey i found it its there in the player preference thank u.......
[17:01] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: i'd say try the install again. clearly something wasn't copied properly.
[17:01] <kostkon> guitarman814, if you give:  aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav do you hear anything?
[17:01] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: actually, you could probably just copy the needed files off of the live cd...
[17:02] <jongbergs> kleftisx: i see..but i don't know for why it isn't working as expected..
[17:02] <jophish> Howdy all, I am having a bit of trouble using CUPS. I can visit 192.168.0.24:631 and see the cups page, with printer preferences and all that jazz, however when I search for a network printer at http://192.168.0.24:631/printers nothing shows up (I have tried every combination of port, http etc...)
[17:02] <guitarman814> kostkon, no
[17:02] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: the mounted iso, i mean
[17:02] <kravlin> lexxmt: you should be booting to hd1,0 if you want to boot to the first partition of sdb
[17:02] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Such file (menu.lst) not present in /boot/grub
[17:02] <Bear10> jrib, lets assume someone has access to the xterminal but aren't sudo, can they do anything to harm network, or possible inject code anywhere?
[17:02] <kostkon> guitarman814, aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav do you hear anything ?
[17:02] <jongbergs> jophish: try ipp instead of http
[17:02] <guitarman814> kostkon, no
[17:03] <ugn> epinky: i dnt understand the options to use
[17:03] <kostkon> guitarman814, and also: aplay -D plughw:1,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[17:03] <diddy> Can I print from a Windows XP client on a network printer connected to an Ubuntu machine on its parallel port?
[17:03] <lexxmt> Kravlin: I try change grub.cfg from (hd1,1) to (hd1,0). I try reboot
[17:03] <kleftisx> jongbergs : i found similar problems in forums and a solution like:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8017321&postcount=4
[17:03] <jophish> ok jongbergs
[17:03] <Melt> anyways, i was serious with my question -- is there any reason this release is so buggy/eats systems when you upgrade with it?
[17:03] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior, this is like the 3rd time i try to install it with no succes of booting it aferwards. thers one thing though.. the iso on the C: drive is mounted as /cdrom. but after i modify the partition table i get a error that it cant commit changes if i dont umount /cdrom. so i must umount it manually by force. like in umount -s -r -f /cdrom. and then install proceeds fine.
[17:03] <kravlin> lexxmt: sounds good.
[17:03] <jrib> Bear10: if there is some unpatched vulnerability, sure.  But these are patched almost as soon as they are closed (and then you get the fixes from update-manager)
[17:03] <jrib> s/closed/disclosed
[17:03] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: well, not too fine, apparently :-)
[17:03] <jcrawford> ok seriously why are my startup applications not starting
[17:04] <guitarman814> audio open error: No such file or directory
[17:04] <jcrawford> there are 2 Gnome-DO and WhatPulse
[17:04] <jongbergs> kleftisx: i'm viewing it now.
[17:04] <guitarman814> kostkon, ^^
[17:04] <yast> so.. guys what nice games is there for linux? :)
[17:04] <kostkon> guitarman814, scratch this: try again like this: aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav
[17:04] <jcrawford> neither open on startup but they have entries in the startup applications app
[17:04] <jophish> jongbergs, sorry to say that no printers were found at ipp://192.168.0.24:631/printers
[17:04] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior, im now in livecd ill try reinstalling again and tell you what is going wrong
[17:04] <PaulieWalnuts> ok?
[17:04] <guitarman814> kostkon, nothing
[17:04] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: i only have a few minutes, but sure
[17:05] <PaulieWalnuts> ok pls
[17:05] <jcrawford> damn DropBox is not even starting either wtf
[17:05] <ffm_theQ> hi. I get no output from my geforce 9400 on an asus m2a-vm hdmi running 9.10 64bit. using the nvidia driver (v. 190)
[17:05] <kostkon> guitarman814, ok, you could check you volume levels and unmute any digital channels that you'll find.
[17:05] <jcrawford> is something broken with Startup Applications in 9.10?
[17:05] <guitarman814> kostkon, in alsamixer?
[17:05] <kostkon> guitarman814, yes
[17:05] <guitarman814> i only have master in alsamixer
[17:05] <jongbergs> kleftisx: sounds like karmic's restricted modules problem
[17:06] <reggieP1234> any ideas on the linksys wireless usb adapter?
[17:06] <jongbergs> jophish: btw, how did you enter this info?
[17:06] <epinky> ugn: sorry, if you can't do that, we can't find error, the error code is needed :(
[17:06] <plaing> I'm having issues installing ubuntu 9.10 over a network
[17:06] <plaing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/320135/ is where it errors out
[17:06] <reggieP1234> does it just not work with linux?
[17:06] <jophish> with the printer manager, system/admin/printing: new network printer
[17:06] <guitarman814> kostkon, i gtg, but ty for your help
[17:07] <guitarman814> ill bbl
[17:07] <jophish> I am comfortable with the command line too
[17:07] <kleftisx> jongbergs : yeap...
[17:07] <kostkon> guitarman814, ok. have a nice rest of the day
[17:07] <sqemishozifrage> I recently installed UNR on my hp mini 110 (with 2 Gb ram) and have issues with SIGBUS in all browsers under certain conditions. Any page of reasonable complexity produces this error. Disabling JavaScript helps, but not completely. Simple JavaScript pseudolinks work. Other common netbook issues are fixed: sound, wifi. I have output from gdb while reproducing the issue in Firefox. Does anyone know a fix or should I file a bug on launchpad?
[17:07] <NeoNexus> does anyone here have Ubuntu on a Toshiba P500?
[17:08] <DarrenTod> Where is the keymap file? I want too change a few keys functions
[17:08] <jongbergs> kleftisx: have you been here also? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[17:08] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior, still here?
[17:08] <djkm> E: Error occured while processing libmetacity-private0 (NewVersion1) whats the reason of that error?
[17:09] <plaing> is my source missing files? its the 9.10 iso? http://paste.ubuntu.com/320135/
[17:09] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: sure am
[17:09] <kleftisx> jongbergs : yes but also i have found that driver: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English
[17:10] <lexxmt> Kravlin: I work from liveCd. How I can mount /dev/sdb1 in rw? (sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 /mnt) gives me only readonly access?
[17:10] <mobi-sheep> plaing: It does not looks like Ubuntu ISO because of 192.168.168.201 -- A bad IP at that one, me think.
[17:10] <plaing> mobi-sheep: O
[17:10] <fighter1> hey guys when i press "save to X Configuration file" it says "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[17:11] <kravlin> lexxmt: does it give you any errors?
[17:11] <plaing> mobi-sheep: i've extracted the iso to a http folder
[17:11] <Xcell> fighter1-   do it as r00t
[17:11] <lexxmt> Kravlin: I can't edit grub.cfg as it mounted readonly :(
[17:11] <mobi-sheep> plaing: I see. So You're trying to do something different which is probably the result of this problem.
[17:11] <NfNitLoop> I'm trying to apt-get install gnome, but it's complaining bout not being able to find gnome-desktop-environment.
[17:11] <PaulieWalnuts> im in the install process. sorted out partitions, finished settings and now installers says : Failed to unmount partitions.The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables,but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted : /cdrom . Please close any applications using these mount points
[17:11] <fighter1> Xcell: how edit it myself?
[17:12] <NfNitLoop> this is 9.10, after an apt-get update & upgrade
[17:12] <NfNitLoop> are the repos broken?
[17:12] <kravlin> lexxmt: you can edit it in grub too. Grub has it's own built in editor.
[17:12] <DarrenTod> usr/share/rdesktop/keymaps/
[17:12] <DarrenTod> !keymap
[17:12] <kravlin> lexxmt: but that's only temporary
[17:12] <Bonz> where do I find the desktop sharing feature
[17:12] <lexxmt> Kravlin: I umount it everywhere, try mount with mount -o,rw or mount -o rw and anyway it mounted readonly
[17:12] <DarrenTod> !keymaps
[17:12] <Bonz> i just finished reinstalling and cant for the life of me find it
[17:13] <kravlin> lexxmt: have you tried mounting without rw? just with -o?
[17:13] <DarrenTod> Where is the keymap file? I want too change a few keys functions
[17:13] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior, what to do
[17:13] <PaulieWalnuts> Hey guys.I installed karmic trough unetbootin to a hd partition by booting the iso on drive C: i have sda1 and sda2 windows partitions. sda3 is / ext4 and sda4 is swap.Install went fine. i installed grub to sda, i have it in mbr. now when the pc boots i cant see ubuntu in the list only Memory Test and Windows 7(loader). tried fixing grub with chroot by following documentation on ubuntu website. no use, i still cant boot my install. h
[17:13] <PaulieWalnuts>  elp pls!
[17:13] <FloodBot3> PaulieWalnuts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <jongbergs> kleftisx: can't guarantee if it work out. but it might worth considering. there's always a risk using proprietary drivers.
[17:13] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: do you have fuser or lsof available? what process is holding /cdrom open?
[17:14] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: or is that unetbootin?
[17:14] <PaulieWalnuts> its unetbootin
[17:14] <fighter1> Xcell: hey buddy tell me how to edit that file.what do u mean my do it as root i am new at ubuntu
[17:14] <PaulieWalnuts> fuser shows nothing
[17:14] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: well that's unfortunate
[17:14] <thorbj> padhu: okay, thanks, I'll see what I can find out :9
[17:14] <PaulieWalnuts> ...
[17:14] <kravlin> lexxmt: hm... I don't know.
[17:14] <kleftisx> jongbergs : i have to uninstall the ati catalyst before using that one?
[17:14] <lexxmt> Kravlin: mount -o, give also readonly access
[17:14] <mobi-sheep> NfNitLoop: Is gnome-core installed?
[17:14] <kravlin> lexxmt: maybe you should get someone who's a bit more experienced to help you. sorry.
[17:14] <kravlin> lexxmt: I don't know.
[17:14] <sipior> you might want to find a friend with a cd burner that you can borrow for fifteen minutes.
[17:14] <mobi-sheep> NfNitLoop: How about gnome-desktop-environment? :o
[17:14] <Trustisaweakness> I was wondering  how would I enable svideo on the graphics card so I could watch videos on my tv
[17:14] <jongbergs> kleftisx: did you install catalyst before?
[17:15] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: that would be simpler.
[17:15] <lexxmt> Kravlin: I try boot from different livecd
[17:15] <Zeyelth> I'm trying to get my Radeon HD 5870 card to work under Ubuntu... I was under the impression that the drivers in 9.10 supports this card... Am I wrong, or is the hardware driver manager thing not working correctly?
[17:15] <NfNitLoop> mobi-sheep: No gnome-core, it complains about gnome-desktop-environment not being installable.
[17:15] <PaulieWalnuts> any way of using unetbootin to install 9.10 to hd?
[17:15] <kravlin> lexxmt: good luck
[17:15] <NfNitLoop> (sorry, can't copy and paste easily at the moment since I'm stuck on the command-line.)  :p
[17:16] <fighter1> Xcell: hey buddy tell me how to edit that file.what do u mean my do it as root i am new at ubuntu
[17:16] <kleftisx> jongbergs : no i haven't but is installed in my system already. i don't know how. maybe because of the restricted drivers?
[17:16] <saif> guys how can i monitor my wireless connection ??
[17:16] <saif> the sent and reciecved packets
[17:16] <mobi-sheep> NfNitLoop: In my case, I don't have gnome or gnome-desktop-environment installed and yet I'm running Gnome.
[17:16] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: do you have flash disk or external hd from thich we can install karmic using unetbootin
[17:16] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: you might want to have a look at the unetbootin forums. perhaps someone has run into a similar problem.
[17:17] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior, i have a kubuntu 9.10 livecd any way of netinstalling ubuntu to hd from it?
[17:17] <grendal_prime> just a question because i find it a bit odd.  Why is it there are so many tzdata updates on ubuntu/debian distrobutions?
[17:17] <sipior> PaulieWalnuts: anyway, i need to be on my way. best of luck to you, hope you get it sorted.
[17:17] <PaulieWalnuts> sipior,  ok thanks
[17:17] <NfNitLoop> mobi-sheep: ah, odd package names, then.   Installing gnome-core seems to be working. Thanks.
[17:17] <jrib> grendal_prime: checkthe changelogs?
[17:18] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, i only have a ubuntu iso on my c: drive from wich i booted right now
[17:18] <mobi-sheep> NfNitLoop: Good. I do have gnome-core installed, also gdm. I think that is about gnome minimal as you can get. Along with few other packages.
[17:19] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: ok, did you managed to re-install again from the start?
[17:19] <kleftisx> jongbergs : but also when i try to run catalyst i get the error: Failed to execute child process "amdxdg-su" (No such file or directory)
[17:19] <Trustisaweakness> I was wondering  how would I enable svideo on the graphics card so I could watch videos on my tv
[17:19] <fighter1> how to force resolution to 1280*1024 im not getting these in nvidia setting ?
[17:19] <Ilyu> #confederation-libre
[17:19] <_Narc_> I'm looking for a way to change openoffice document icons in Gnome-Do. Anyone know which icons Do is using ? Thanks a lot.
[17:19] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, installer tells me to umount /cdrom wich is unetbootin iso.. this will result in a completed install but broken system
[17:19] <jongbergs> kleftisx: it's because we already remove the package..fglrx package
[17:19] <lexxmt> Kravlin: Is a way say to Ubuntu installer to reinstall entry drive (replace MBR sector too)?
[17:20] <lexxmt> Kravlin: replace everything?
[17:20] <ganymede> fighter1: download restricted extras from the package manager
[17:20] <Bonz> is there a way to make gdm load with a panning desktop
[17:20] <NfNitLoop> mobi-sheep: I installed via a server CD (all that I had) but would actually like the typical GUI gnome ubuntu install.  Is there a package somewher that will give me that?
[17:20] <kleftisx> jongbergs : try to remove catalyst also from synaptic?
[17:20] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: how did you initiate the installation? thru the Install option on the desktop?
[17:20] <NfNitLoop> this is indeed very minimal. :p
[17:20] <om26er1> ganymede: he cannot get the screen resolutions to 1280*1024 that he got in windows xp
[17:20] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, yes
[17:21] <Bonz> so i can reavh the apply/close buttons which otherwise disappear offscreen
[17:21] <fighter1> ganymede: how to do that i am new dude?
[17:21] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: try initiating the installation thru System > Administration menu
[17:21] <gdk> does anyone know any good screen recording softwares for ubuntu?
[17:22] <NfNitLoop> in particular -- what's the litle tool that genrally prompts you to install the non-OSS drivers to speed up graphics?   The current driver is >.<.
[17:22] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, you think not using sudo would make a difference?
[17:22] <trism> NfNitLoop: did you try installing ubuntu-desktop?
[17:22] <jongbergs> kleftisx: try to search for catalyst in synaptic
[17:22] <ganymede> FIGHTER1: http://www.stchman.com/essen_pack.html
[17:22] <gdk> Does anyone know any good screen recording softwares?
[17:22] <Pici> !screencast | gdk
[17:22] <Bonz> gdk: nope
[17:22] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: no, it doesn't matter
[17:22] <mobi-sheep> NfNitLoop: You're talking about Hardware Drivers?
[17:23] <gdk> ubottu: thanks
[17:23] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, i try now
[17:23] <om26er1> !uds
[17:23] <kravlin> !botsnack
[17:23] <Zeyelth> Does anyone know which version of the ATI Catalyst driver Ubuntu 9.10/Karmic has?
[17:23] <fighter1> ganymede: no no buddy i want to restrict the resolutions to 1280*1024 cuz i m not getting these in settings
[17:23] <NfNitLoop> mobi-sheep: Yeah, previously when I ran the non-server Ubuntu, it would prompt me in the GUI to upgrade my drivers for better performance.
[17:24] <NfNitLoop> What tool is tha?
[17:24] <NfNitLoop> that*  (Oy, this keyboard!)
[17:24] <ganymede> Fighter1: make sure you have all of those packages...
[17:24] <rapha> What is the package in Karmic for that hardware list GUI thingy?
[17:24] <error404notfound> is there a tool like keepassx except that it should be commandline?
[17:24] <kleftisx> jongbergs : its seems that the package fglrx-amdcccle is installed .
[17:24] <ganymede> then try to change your resolution
[17:24] <mobi-sheep> NfNitLoop: jockey -- Or in that case, for the GUI.... jockey-gtk
[17:25] <om26er1> !lucid | fighter1
[17:25] <jongbergs> kleftisx: does it have a checked mark?
[17:25] <NfNitLoop> aha, it's ubuntu-desktop.
[17:25] <NfNitLoop> Found it. :)
[17:25] <NfNitLoop> Thanks!
[17:25] <jongbergs> Zedde: have you been here already? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English
[17:25] <kleftisx> jongbergs : yes. is installed
[17:26] <pwnlord> hey there people, does any1 know a way of installing umtsmon through the repositories?
[17:26] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, installer says to umount /cdrom since it needs to commit changes
[17:26] <jongbergs> Zedde: sorry, it should be for Zeyelth
[17:26] <fighter1> i want to restrict the resolutions to 1280*1024 cuz i m not getting these in settings
[17:27] <jongbergs> Zeyelth: : have you been here already? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English
[17:27] <BluesKaj> Zeyelth, this is the proprietary driver, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[17:27] <fighter1> i want to restrict the resolutions to 1280*1024 cuz i m not getting these in settings
[17:27] <Zeyelth> jongbergs, BluesKaj: Do I have to install it manually? I thought it was included in Ubuntu 9.10?
[17:28] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: what could be wrong? however you were able to install it the first place?
[17:28] <mor> hola
[17:28] <mobi-sheep> NfNitLoop: Check your private message.
[17:29] <om26er1> mor: eng;ish only
[17:29] <coldflame23> !acpi
[17:29] <lilyshu> !resetpanels
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Zeyelth, dunno if it's in the repos , there might be a ppa
[17:29] <mor> e qual'è il problema??
[17:29] <insigne> brazil
[17:29] <BluesKaj> bbl
[17:29] <Pici> !br
[17:29] <jolaren> How do I go back in terminal? I mean I use cd to go to a directory, how do I get back one step?
[17:29] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, i am able to install it if i forcefully (umount -l -r -f /cdrom) umount the /cdrom. however after install is complete i cant boot the system(no menu entries in grub appear and i just found out by chrooting in the install that the kernel was also missing)
[17:29] <mobi-sheep> jolaren: cd ..
[17:29] <Qui_Sum> cd ..
[17:29] <IdleOne> !it | mor
[17:30] <yamokidzu-it> Kubuntu is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:30] <iamdakingman> lol not
[17:30] <Zeyelth> BluesKaj: Phoronix claims it's included, but I dunno... I'll just install it manually :/
[17:30] <Zeyelth> Serves me right for using bleeding edge hardware :p
[17:30] <mor> !it
[17:30] <yast> what nice games is there for linux? :x
[17:30] <IdleOne> !games > yast
[17:30] <Qui_Sum> XMoto rocks!
[17:30] <yast> oh sorry not very used to use irssi xD
[17:30] <Trustisaweakness> yast ufoai google it
[17:30] <mor> ok
[17:31] <ibmx61> Gnome 方块 is best i think,haha
[17:31] <kleftisx> jongbergs : try to uninstall it and install the new drivers?
[17:31] <mr_boo> why does ubuntu 9.10 inhibit me from using fglrx?
[17:32] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, any guess?
[17:32] <Silver_Swords> hi all. trying to install 9.10 gnome on brand new toshiba L300-1FS. keys for "aA" and "qQ" dont work. any help.
[17:32] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: i agree, because /cdrom is mounted as loop device pointing to partition where you installed karmic's installation files using unetbootin
[17:33] <arghh2d2>  /?
[17:33]  * microlith boggles at ubuntu
[17:33] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, i thik thats the case.. unetbootin made a bootable squashfs out of the iso on the c: Drive and mounted it as /cdrom
[17:33] <jolaren> What other netbook distros do you recomend except ubuntu netbook remix? I totally love it but want to try some new out
[17:33] <mr_boo> i think i suffer from Bug #458770
[17:33] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: i ran on that problem before, however i managed to install thru System > Administration > Install karmic
[17:33] <mandara> !lucid
[17:33] <Trustisaweakness> jolaren, backtrack4
[17:34] <jongbergs> kleftisx: sorry to tell you but i can
[17:34] <TheCheeze> jolaren, you are asking the ubuntu community... do you really expect a different answer?
[17:34] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, same error there :(
[17:34] <jongbergs> kleftisx: sorry to tell you but i can't guarantee if it works out
[17:34] <mr_boo> is there a way to get around bugs in ubuntu?
[17:34] <kleftisx> jongbergs : ok :P i will wait to find more sources :D
[17:34] <kleftisx> jongbergs : thanks a lot for your help and your time :D
[17:35] <TheCheeze> mr_boo, of course. it just depends on your hardware
[17:35] <jongbergs> kleftisx: no probs hope somebody can help you out.. : )
[17:35] <capuzino> Ugh i tried taht wifidocs site in ubuntu help to get my connectbird work...
[17:35] <jolaren> TheCheeze: I don't know, I hoped for a open-minded linux community
[17:35] <capuzino> that help didn't work for me...
[17:35] <mr_boo> i've got trouble with the jockey software i think
[17:35] <TheCheeze> jolaren, beings as this is the support channel for ubuntu, you might want to try the off-topic room for that
[17:35] <mr_boo> i hit the "activate" button but nothing happens
[17:35] <TheCheeze> !ot | jolaren
[17:36] <mr_boo> no feedback to me
[17:36] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: what if you do the umount command wiht force option and initiate the install?
[17:36] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, then it all works
[17:36] <PaulieWalnuts> but cant boot after
[17:37] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, we could sort it out if we understood well how the install process works
[17:37] <capuzino> can someone give me another way to try get connectbird work in ubuntu 9.10
[17:37] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, apparently the installer needs /cdrom umounted just to commit changes to partition table
[17:37] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: yes
[17:37] <mr_boo> my ati card worked with 9.04
[17:38] <mr_boo> but with 9.10 the "hardware drivers" interface won't let me activate fglrx
[17:38] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, but installing without it will result in unbootable broken system. thing is where does it get the files for install from if /cdrom is umounted already before install begun?
[17:38] <mr_boo> can someone shine some light on this mystery?
[17:38] <Pici> mr_boo: What ATI card are you using?
[17:38] <sassyn> Hi all
[17:38] <mr_boo> Pici: Radeon 4870
[17:38] <sassyn> How to write an upstart service
[17:38] <sassyn> to run after usplash?
[17:38] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: im just wondering too why would the installer should forcefully unmount /cdrom from which it needs the installation file there?
[17:39] <sassyn> anyone know?
[17:39] <mr_boo> Pici: it worked with 9.04
[17:39] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: sound weird really..
[17:39] <mr_boo> Pici: but after upgrade i cannot enable fglrx in "hardware drivers"
[17:39] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, yea.. so im thinking . if i get a ubuntu netinstall iso booted with unetbootin, will anything change? since it gets the install files from the internet
[17:39] <capuzino> ugh why my computer need to be soo crap?
[17:40] <Zeyelth> So... the generated packages from AMDs installer requires libstdc++5... Where can I get that?
[17:40] <Pici> mr_boo: Is it not listed, or does enalbing it cause an error?
[17:40] <capuzino> i can't even get hardy heron work on it (even if i have internet)..
[17:40] <Zeyelth> 9.10 seem to only have version 6
[17:40] <PaulieWalnuts> anyone has experience with unetbootin/ubuntu 9.10 ?
[17:40] <mr_boo> Pici: i hit the "activate" button and nothing happens
[17:40] <mr_boo> Pici: it doesn't take affect and no feedback to me if or what went wrong
[17:41] <Pici> mr_boo:  You could try installing the xorg-driver-fglrx package manually.
[17:41] <knoxville> how do I look up my default dns server
[17:41] <djtoast> Hi all,  I just upgraded my main computer to 9.10 fresh install.. Im finding that im having issues with sound..  I play mythtv then other sounds are queued application seems frozen until i quit mythtv.  Reading on PulseAudio and ALSA.  and this soundls like Mythtv is using ALSa but ubuntu pulse.
[17:41] <gilbert_> how do i implement a flash player and have it work im still kinda new at this
[17:41] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: what i did was i have downloaded the ISO image file, verified it thru md5sum and use unetbootin to install the live cd onto my hard drive under windows xp
[17:41] <mr_boo> Pici: i tried to sudo apt-get autoremove and then reinstall
[17:41] <mr_boo> Pici: didn't change anything
[17:41] <djtoast> is there any ways to make them both play nice.. or change ubuntu to alsa (what is better?)
[17:42] <jophish> jongbergs, I got the printers working,
[17:42] <unapiedra> hi. I had this massive problem recently (sat. and sun.) about the new kernel not booting anymore and with an older kernel I had about 96% of cpu used for X. I finally fixed it by purging xserver-xorg and other packages that were upgraded recently and then did a freshinstall of kubuntu-desktop over it. I just wanted to let you guys know b/c on Saturday there was someone with exactly the same symptoms.
[17:42] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, same thing i did. then rebooted pc and booted the Unetbootin option
[17:42] <jongbergs> jophish: how did you make it work?
[17:42] <mr_boo> the funny thing is that 9.10 isn't beta anymore
[17:42] <greezmunkey> knoxville, use nslookup
[17:42] <mr_boo> and this happens
[17:42] <capuzino> does anyone know when 10.04 is coming?
[17:43] <NeoNexus> April
[17:43] <capuzino> ok...
[17:43] <kravlin> next april?
[17:43] <Pici> capuzino: April 2010.  The release date is in the version number.
[17:43] <mr_boo> is it possible to enable proprietary drivers from the command prompt instead of the "hardware drivers" dialog?
[17:43] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: and then unebootin made changes to boot.ini, rebooted my pc, selected unetbootin from the menu, and i was off
[17:43] <jophish> jongbergs, It was an error on the client, they were not looking for network printers,
[17:43] <erUSUL> capuzino: 20*10* in April (*4*th month)
[17:43] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, right.. and then i have this installer problem
[17:43] <NeoNexus> 10.40 the 10 is the year, 4 is the month
[17:43] <capuzino> ok
[17:43] <DarrenTod> Hi, I want too make another key function as the space bar, is this possible?#
[17:44] <_Narc_> I'm looking for a way to change openoffice document icons in Gnome-Do. Anyone know which icon on Earth Gnome-Do is using ? I can't find it. Thanks a lot.
[17:44] <NeoNexus> ie 9.10, Oct 2009
[17:44] <kravlin> DarrenTod: it is. but I have no idea how to do it. You'd have to remap the key
[17:44] <mr_boo> is it possible to enable proprietary drivers from the command prompt instead of the "hardware drivers" dialog?
[17:44] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: i am looking into that possibility..can you again have your ISO verify its integrity?
[17:44] <om26er1> when is ubuntu+1 gonna open
[17:44] <yast> well when I said games I meant proper games like UnrealTournaments , Quake and stuff
[17:44] <PaulieWalnuts> jongbergs, i didnt md5sum it after dl
[17:44] <yast> :D
[17:45] <DarrenTod> kravlin: thanks, someone told me on here a few days ago too edit a file, but I cannot remember which file :S
[17:45] <xckpd7> hey guys! how to download google chromium?
[17:46] <dave_> Hi How do I find files in windows from ubuntu 9.10 every time I try in host folder it says I have no permission.
[17:46] <mr_boo> this thread illustrates how hopeless my situation is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7247118
[17:46] <Zeyelth> Where can I get libstdc++5? It's apparently required for one of the parts of the ATI driver install...
[17:47] <thekaas> #dave you need root access to mount another drive
[17:47] <jongbergs> mr_boo: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic (?)
[17:47] <Silver_Swords> sorry.. those keys on new toshiba L300-1FS dont even work on preinstalled vista. looks like defective laptop from factory. oh well.
[17:48] <dave_> thekaas, how do I do this?
[17:48] <Kalor> Hi. I downloaded a driver for my k8m890CE from Via. Once I extract the folder, I have no clue how to install :P. Contents include vinstall and vuninstall.
[17:48] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: can you try booting karmic from external drive or say a flash disk?
[17:49] <mr_boo> jongbergs: gonna try
[17:49] <jongbergs> PaulieWalnuts: do you have access to these medium?
[17:49] <JediMaster> Kalor, is there an "INSTALL" or "INSTALL.txt" file or README?
[17:49] <sharperguy> any idea what happened to add/remove in 9.10?
[17:49] <maco> sharperguy: replaced with Software Center
[17:49] <Kalor> No, no installation instructions at all...
[17:50] <sharperguy> maco, I don't think I got that in the upgrade
[17:50]  * Blues-Man a bientot
[17:50] <maco> sharperguy: ubuntu-software-center ?
[17:50] <sharperguy> maco, nope
[17:50] <kalkon> if i do a clean install and use my current home partition as home is there anyting to worry about or is it just to install?
[17:51] <sharperguy> maco, i'll apt-get it i guess
[17:51] <mr_boo> jongbergs: "E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[17:51] <musti> hi
[17:51] <musti> everybody
[17:51] <sharperguy> maco, doesn't seem to be in repo's either
[17:51] <thekaas> dave_ when i try to access my windows-partition it just prompts me for for the root password
[17:51] <sharperguy> !ubuntu-software-center
[17:51] <sharperguy> !ubuntu-software-centre
[17:51] <dave_> How do I have root access mount another drive  when it is the same drive dual boot installed in windows
[17:51] <sharperguy> great
[17:52] <dave_> I will try again
[17:52] <maco> sharperguy: er, yes it is...
[17:52] <darrend> Zeyelth: try the jaunty package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/i386/libstdc++5/download
[17:52] <maco> sharperguy: ah, its just software-center for the package
[17:52] <darrend> Zeyelth: it's been removed from Karmic
[17:52] <sharperguy> maco, I'm guessing I don't have all the repos maybe but I can't see any i dont have - ah ok
[17:52] <darrend> (silly since so many things still use it)
[17:52] <Mr_Eko> giving ubuntu 9.10 try - 2 sleepless nights so far on just connecting to the wireless network which i can see but not connect to. dmesg shows : encryption mode to 6 failed
[17:53] <Irakirashia> I give up guys... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8326965
[17:53] <Irakirashia> oops, did not meant to bold it.
[17:53] <sharperguy> maco, thanks installing it now
[17:53] <arghh2d2> hello
[17:53] <jimmyO> what causes "out of range" error when trying to install 9.10 on AMD64 machine with flat screen monitor
[17:53] <maco> Irakirashia: there's no bold on irc...so your text looks normal :)
[17:54] <maco> jimmyO: the screen and video card arent agreeing on a resolution
[17:54] <Kalor> jimmyO, probably using a screen resolution not supported by the monitor
[17:54] <JediMaster> jimmyO, out of range normally means your resolution or refresh rate are too high for your screen
[17:54] <Irakirashia> Oh, ok
[17:54] <maco> jimmyO: i think that error is so the video card doesnt force something on the monitor and thereby burn it out
[17:54] <jongbergs> mr_boo: try searching the keyword extras thru this command sudo apt-cache search restricted
[17:55] <capuzino> how can i get mp3,wma and all video plugins for ubuntu 9.10 without internet on it?
[17:55] <jongbergs> mr_boo: try searching the keyword restricted thru this command sudo apt-cache search restricted
[17:55] <capuzino> i mean to rhytmbox and that movie player
[17:55] <mr_boo> jongbergs: uh ok
[17:55] <dave_> thekaas, I went to my root folder there is a "x" next to it and it says I have no permission how do I change that?
[17:55] <alokito> why am I getting extremely slow speed in apt-get :-S
[17:55] <alokito> is the ubuntu server down>
[17:55] <alokito> ?
[17:56] <jimmyO> thank you - is there an install option that will avoid error or force a lower res etc ??
[17:56] <mr_boo> jongbergs: plenty of text appeared
[17:56] <capuzino> ?
[17:56] <sharperguy> alokito, Not sure the server might still be getting hit with people upgrading. You can always change the server you go to in System->Administration->Software sources so you aren't on the same one as everyone else
[17:56] <music_freak> does anyone know where i can see a master list of rooms accessable through freenode or irc? i am a noob at thisw
[17:56] <DarrenTod> Hi, I want too make another key function as the space bar, is this possible?
[17:56] <jongbergs> mr_boo: look for entries that says something like linux-restricted-*
[17:57] <alokito> sharperguy: I prefer the main server cuz it delivers the updates 1st
[17:57] <Zeyelth> darrend: Thanks... And, why has it been removed? If I recall correctly, it's required for several games and such...
[17:57] <mr_boo> jongbergs: no entries
[17:57] <darrend> music_freak: freenode normally blocks you from doing that - it puts too much strain on the servers
[17:57] <thekaas> dave_ keep it that way. You don't want root access all the time.
[17:57] <alokito> I get good speed from it all the time... it got less than 1 kbps half an hour ago and it's still like that!
[17:57] <alokito> my net is fast... btw
[17:58] <darrend> Zeyelth: you're right, lots of things (not just games) still use it.  You'd have to ask the devs why they do crazy things like that
[17:58] <mr_boo> jongbergs: there is one "ubuntu-restricted-extras" though
[17:58] <music_freak> what rooms are currently accessible using freenode? i only have been to #ubuntu and #ubuntu-release-prty.. lol
[17:58] <darrend> Zeyelth: it doesn't even appear to be in universe which would make sense.. just dropped altogether.
[17:58] <jongbergs> mr_boo: nope, its about codecs with restricted format support
[17:58] <dave_> thekaas, what I am trying to do is access video files in kdenlive from my windows video files I am not able to do this at present.
[17:59] <capuzino> How i can get VLC on ubuntu without internet?
[17:59] <alokito> music_freak: lots of.. see list of channels from your irc client
[17:59] <capuzino> to ubuntu*
[17:59] <Snausages> music_freak: there are typically a few thousand channels in use at any one time, but not a lot of awareness from one to the next :)
[17:59] <music_freak> i have no client.. i am using freenode.. i'm not sure how to set irc up or what client i would start with
[17:59] <Zeyelth> darrend: Indeed... And people wonder why no commercial developers want to develop for Linux/Ubuntu. :/
[18:00] <darrend> music_freak: if you're going to ask questions, read the answers and don't just repeat your question 30 seconds later
[18:00] <thekaas> dave_ what exactly do you do when trying to access those files
[18:00] <alokito> music_freak: #ubuntu-offtopic is better for this discussion :)
[18:00] <darrend> Zeyelth: I would have to have some sympathy with that view, but it is an ubuntu issue, not a linux one.  Many other distros have it available
[18:01] <music_freak> i am reading.. like i said i'm a newbie at this and have to start somewhere
[18:01] <mr_boo> is 9.10 new?
[18:01] <music_freak> ty alokito
[18:01] <alokito> music_freak: type "/list" in your chatbox and hit enter!
[18:02] <fabbree> hello!do you know how to prevent keyboard to shut down during suspend mode?I need this because when I recover my keyboard hang up each time
[18:02] <jongbergs> mr_boo: have your run sudo apt-get update?
[18:02] <mr_boo> jongbergs: yes
[18:02] <Snausages> mr_boo: yeah, 2 weeks anyway
[18:02] <treeforms> hello
[18:03] <Zeyelth> darrend: Problem is, this is just one of many issues with Linux; things are updated randomly, and you have to keep your software up-to-date constantly. I think this particular issue can be solved by a symlink though, if the .deb package itself didn't have that specific version as a dependency. The Jaunty package worked though :)
[18:03] <jimmyO> so is there a way to force a particular video mode / resolution when doing an install ??
[18:03] <garniwa> anyone help me to setting login in gyachi?
[18:04] <SoujiroSeta> Hi all! I'm a game developper that is currently porting the QuantZ game to linux. There is a beta currently available and I'd like a little help with some issues about the game. If anyone is interested in beta testing the game, please join me in the #quantz channel. :) Thanks for your help! (sorry for spamming...)
[18:04] <Rhapsodos> hey... how do i remove the GRUB menu? i deleted / uninstalled ubuntu 9.04 but the GRUB menu is still there
[18:04] <jongbergs> need to get to sleep : ) see you again..
[18:04] <music_freak> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:05] <t4num0y> hi..all can anybody tell me how can i install ubuntu 9.10 serve (amd64) version directly install from iso without burning..
[18:05] <darrend> jimmyO: there is (IIRC) an option on the first screen of the install to run it in safe mode - did you try that?
[18:05] <xckpd7> how to install google chromium?
[18:05] <jimmyO> no just stuck the CD in and it ran direct boot from CD Rom
[18:06] <phisher1> xckpd7: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-chromium-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.html
[18:06] <jimmyO> goes right to the language menu
[18:06] <willemer> i installed extremetuxracer through apt-get but if i run it i hear the sound but i dont see anything :'(
[18:06] <dave_> thekaas, I go to the root folder then to host folder to documents & settings folder but then it says nothing is in it.
[18:06] <arghh2d2> jimmyO: you probly gotta hit a key before it times out to the default install
[18:07] <darrend> jimmyO: ok, but after that, the next screen has a few options on it.. start the installer again and check
[18:07] <Rhapsodos> hey... how do i remove the GRUB menu? i deleted / uninstalled ubuntu 9.04 but the GRUB menu is still there ..and i tried even with windows cd... but..dont want to install again windows :|
[18:07] <treeforms> I am trying to install 9.10: I can't get the live cd, the alternate cd, nor the dvd to start without green and grey lines.  I have an Nvidia chip but i can't type any commands, I think this has probably come up before, but thanks
[18:07] <jimmyO> ok I will check that - thank you
[18:07] <t4num0y> jimmyO .. r u talkin to me ?
[18:07] <darrend> jimmyO: if you reply to someone, prefix with their name or it gets lost in the noise
[18:07] <jimmyO> to darrend and arghh2d2 thanks for the help
[18:08] <gasull> Mi partition for /var is full.  Is there any risk in deleting /var/cache?
[18:08] <darrend> jimmyO: most good IRC clients will highlight if you start a line with someone's nick
[18:09] <fabbree> is there a way to exclude some periperhals from being shutted down during suspension?
[18:09] <arghh2d2> speaking of irc noise, i'm lovin this /ignore #ubuntu part join quit setting :)\
[18:09] <thekaas> dave_ In the top-menu, try looking under "Places and see if there is a filesystem about the same size as your win-partition.
[18:09] <jimmyO> darrend sorry new to Unbuntu - new to this chat here and to IRC in general
[18:10] <darrend> jimmyO: np, no need to apologise :)
[18:10] <Rhapsodos> hey... how do i remove the GRUB menu? i deleted / uninstalled ubuntu 9.04 but the GRUB menu is still there ..and i tried even with windows cd... but..dont want to install again windows :|
[18:10] <cirkit> t4num0y: sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0
[18:10] <cirkit> t4num0y: just mount the image file
[18:10] <darrend> gasull: try 'sudo aptitude clean' first
[18:10] <epinky> Rhapsodos: wpe out MBR
[18:10] <t4num0y> cirkit , ok then ?
[18:11] <epinky> Rhapsodos: wipe out MBR
[18:11] <Rhapsodos> epinky how?
[18:11] <arghh2d2> Rhapsodos: google uninstall grub...i think you want to reinstall the windows boot loader or you'll be left with nothing
[18:11] <dave_> thekaas, no there isn't just my ext hard drive and one that says system reserved.
[18:11] <Rhapsodos> arghh2d2 when i restart my pc..it shows me what to start.. windows or ubuntu.. if i choose ubuntu..it restarts :| so i must go on windows..
[18:12] <csspoet> Rhapsodos: fixmbr
[18:12] <phil-h> Can anyone help me with a botched 9.10 install; left unable to boot :-(
[18:12] <arghh2d2> Rhapsodos: try what csspoet said fixmbr
[18:12] <darrend> phil-h: what message do you get?
[18:12] <phil-h> darrend: gimmie one sec...
[18:12] <Rhapsodos> csspoet and how shoul i do that? :|
[18:12] <treeforms> hello! why do I keep getting green and grey lines on my monitor when I try to install or use live cd?
[18:12] <csspoet> Rhapsodos: boot computer with windows cd then goto the command prompt then type fixmbr
[18:13] <arghh2d2> just point and click it
[18:13] <arghh2d2> lol
[18:13] <Tonisius_> what is the Dove version of ubuntu?
[18:13] <phil-h> init: procps main process (803) terminated with status 225, followed by complaints about disk IDs
[18:14] <Rhapsodos> csspoet i tried with the cd..when it starts..it says.. press any key to boot..if i press it..it brings me to..install windows..i dont know how to do that fixmbr
[18:14] <phil-h> I think GRUB has got the disk IDs mixed up but cannot find the right ones
[18:14] <epinky> Rhapsodos: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx
[18:14] <xckpd7> phisher1: thanks
[18:14] <epinky> sorry for the link guys :(
[18:14] <thekaas> dave_ Open your terminal and type in "ls /dev/" without the quotes
[18:15] <xckpd7> guys: what's the easiest way to install Windows fonts (like consolas)
[18:15] <csspoet> Rhapsodos: it gives you an option to repair windows click that then click command prompt
[18:15] <gasull> darrend: thanks
[18:15] <darrend> gasull: np
[18:15] <darrend> phil-h: can you boot from an install CD?
[18:15] <treeforms> phil-h: have you tried the super grub rescue disk?
[18:15] <Rhapsodos> epinky .. i dont know whats the problem with windows..but.. it doesnt work the website..i cant connect to microsoft site
[18:15] <Mr_Eko> guys, setting encryption mode to 6 failed - any idea whats wrong ?
[18:16] <Rhapsodos> csspoet so..i must boot from cd? but it has only the install option..
[18:16] <dave_> thekaas, ok I did
[18:16] <phil-h> darrend - yes, on one now! Can mount partitions no problem from there
[18:16] <Rhapsodos> csspoet install / delete partition and quit :|
[18:16] <phil-h> treeforms - didn't know there was one! Have tried chroot grub -update
[18:16] <darrend> phil-h: did you have a customised grub menu.lst before?
[18:16] <Th-c> what is the syntax to scp a folder ?
[18:17] <csspoet> before you start all theat there is small text in the bottom to try and repair windows then you can get a command prompt to fixmbr
[18:17] <Moon_Doggy> how do i open ports
[18:17] <phil-h> I did to an extent, but not massively
[18:17] <llutz> Th-c: scp -r folder host@dest
[18:17] <jatt> -r
[18:17] <kostkon> xckpd7, install the msttcorefonts package. for the rest of them, just google for win vista fonts. then put them in your .fonts folder
[18:17] <darrend> the 9.10 installer won't try to merge if you did.. I think it will leave the old config which won't work with the new grub
[18:17] <xckpd7> kostkon: thanks
[18:18] <darrend> it should have prompted you to replace, but perhaps you said "no"
[18:18] <Bonz> where is the share desktop app to be found
[18:18] <treeforms> phil-h: I recently installed windows 7 and used it to fix my grub afterwards
[18:18] <thekaas> dav_ it listed a lot of things?
[18:18] <thekaas> *dave_
[18:19] <dave_> thekaas, yes it did what do I look for?
[18:19] <phil-h> Darrend - ah, crikey, sorry forgot important fact - PC hung just after d/l files and initiating restart, ended up rebooting pc, which is why I'm having these probs... I've got the install logs somewhere
[18:19] <BasiumDeJudas> hey all.
[18:19] <darrend> phil-h: hmm.. ok
[18:19] <Th-c> llutz: what if I have a port ?
[18:19] <kostkon> !hi | BasiumDeJudas
[18:19] <phil-h> darrend dumb of me I know!
[18:20] <llutz> Th-c: man scp (-P port)
[18:20] <thekaas> dave_ something like sda2
[18:20] <darrend> phil-h: I would either re-install (on the assumption you may have more than just a broken grub) or you could try running /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig from the CD
[18:20] <darrend> phil-h: no guarantees of what that will do though
[18:21] <treeforms> phil-h: www.supergrubdisk.org
[18:21] <treeforms> ciao
[18:21] <phil-h> You mean re-install from CD? Will that wipe my machine?
[18:21] <phil-h> treeforms - cheers
[18:21] <Infin1ty> I built icu from source, anyhow now i realized there is a debian package on launchpad, i tried to uninstall the source but it seems as the Makefile does not have an uninstall option, is there a way to create one?
[18:21] <dave_> thekaas, yes it is there it is highlighted in black with much of the others.
[18:21] <Th-c> llutz:  scp -p 30000 -r folder host@ip:/destination/folder  ?
[18:21] <darrend> phil-h: depends how you install and what your disk partitions look like
[18:21] <maff> Hey..I got a rather strange problem on my Acer 3810 running 9.10. When I installed it, sound was working fine from headphones and internal speakers. When I booted it today, suddenly sound just seems to work through headphones, when I unplug them, the speakers are still muted. Anyone got a hint on this?
[18:21] <djtoast> any easy way i can change 9.10 to alsa audio instead of using pulse
[18:21] <llutz> Th-c: man scp (-P port)
[18:21] <darrend> phil-h: did you not just perform a clean install then?
[18:21] <jrib> Infin1ty: just delete what it installed.  Another option is to reinstall what you installed using checkinstall and then remove that
[18:22] <Infin1ty> jrib, that's the problem i don't really understand how it works yet, i'm sure it updated some configs file perhaps as well?
[18:22] <BasiumDeJudas> can i reinstall ubuntu over the wabi withno problems.
[18:22] <jrib> Infin1ty: I'm not familiar with icu
[18:22] <Infin1ty> jrib, okay , thanks
[18:22] <phil-h> darrend - no, I was upgrading from 9.04
[18:23] <thekaas> dave_ good. Type "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/win". it will ask for the root password
[18:23] <llutz> Th-c: scp -P xx -r folder user@host:/dest  (sry, typo)
[18:23] <darrend> phil-h: ok.  I reinstall occasionally, but I never lose anything I care about as I have separate partitions that I don't let the installer touch.  Like /home :)
[18:23] <jrib> thekaas, dave_: it asks for your user's password, not the root password
[18:23] <Th-c> llutz:  yes I got it ... but I get permission denied
[18:24] <sayan> anyone knows why some packages are marked as <pkgname> in the output of apt-cache depends?
[18:24] <phil-h> darrend - haha, well if I re-install I'll get a shiny ext4 system, yes? It is quite tempting, also a chance to sort out my partitions. Might go for it - cheers for the advice :-)
[18:25] <darrend> phil-h: np.  good luck
[18:25] <Th-c> llutz: I get this error "scp: /home/public_html/folder: Permission denied"
[18:25] <dave_> thekaas, it says no such file or directory.
[18:26] <llutz> Th-c: check permissions, if you don't have access, you cannot scp it
[18:26] <Th-c> llutz: I can ssh to it ... I am actually loged in right now.
[18:26] <Infin1ty> jrib, does checkinstall put the source file as it would be a deb file? it updates the libraries? (dpkg-libs or something)?
[18:27] <llutz> Th-c:/home/public_html/folder is local or remote?
[18:27] <Th-c> remote ..
[18:28] <llutz> Th-c: "ls -dl /home/public_html/folder " shows you permissions
[18:28] <Th-c> but I dont have a folder names folder .
[18:29] <thekaas> dave_ allright, well mount it in your homefolder then. "cd /home/(your username)"
[18:29] <llutz> Th-c: why define it as target then?
[18:29] <llutz> Th-c: target seems to be /home/public_html/
[18:30] <GodFather> /whois $me
[18:30] <morti>  hello I am new to ubuntu can some one help me ?
[18:30] <GodFather> <_<
[18:30] <belacqua> sayan: <dep> are not package names but generic dependencies, the next line in the apt-get output shows which actual package provides those
[18:30] <error404notfound> i can run "PASSPHRASE=shae0ouDo4eiwau3AeLyaelphoo1ah /usr/bin/duplicity  --encrypt-key  913CA18D --sign-key 912CA18D  --exclude  /sys --exclude  /proc --exclude  /mnt --exclude  /media --exclude  /tmp --exclude  /var/lock --exclude  /var/tmp --exclude  /var/spool --exclude  /var/run --exclude  /dev  / file:///media/backup/vps-backups/" but when i do it in a script like `==that-whole-cmd` i get  No such file or directory
[18:30] <Infin1ty> jrib, simply delete what the checkinstall deb file created?
[18:31] <geeknic> Hi, does anyone know how to change the default image of an icon of a file?
[18:31] <jrib> Infin1ty: no, use apt to remove the package
[18:31] <Guest74157> mikeprinsloo
[18:31] <tandyman100> I'm having a little issue with my PS/2 keyboard
[18:31] <sayan> belacqua: thanks
[18:31] <sayan> :)
[18:31] <Infin1ty> jrib, it's not  a package i installed from source
[18:31] <Th-c> llutz: yes that's the taget
[18:31] <Infin1ty> jrib, i want to remove that source, but it does not have "make uninstall"
[18:31] <jrib> Infin1ty: checkinstall creates a package if you used it now
[18:31] <sayan> actually /me is trying to develop a small script: http://sayanriju.co.cc/debshare.html
[18:31] <llutz> Th-c: "ls -dl /home/public_html"
[18:31] <Infin1ty> jrib, yes, but i can't install it because i was dumb enough putting the older one
[18:31] <sayan> and need that info more improving the script
[18:31] <Infin1ty> jrib, but i guess those files should be deleted
[18:32] <Infin1ty> jrib,anyhow checkinstall helped me, really thanks!
[18:33] <geeknic> Hi, does anyone know how to change the default image of an icon of a file?
[18:33] <tandyman100> Why isn't Ubuntu 8.10 working with my PS/2 keyboard?
[18:33] <fcuk112> !ask | morti
[18:33] <tandyman100> Works with USB, bu not my PS/2
[18:33] <linxeh> tandyman100: do you have a USB mouse ?
[18:33] <tandyman100> yes, I have a USB mose
[18:33] <dave_> thekaas, sorry you lost me what do I type in terminal?
[18:33] <tandyman100> mouse*
[18:33] <linxeh> tandyman100: do you have a ps2 mouse to hand that you can plug in?
[18:34] <linxeh> tandyman100: I've had issues with some boards not liking ps2 keybaord without a ps2 mouse pluged in - dunno why
[18:34] <tandyman100> My keyboard worked during the installation, but after I rebooted, it no longer worked
[18:34] <xckpd7> I just used GNU Screen for the first time, and it prompted me with some themes, and I don't kow how to go back and change that... not only that but there is no configuration in my ~/.screenrc file...
[18:34] <tandyman100> The keyboard works fine under Windows XP, on the same machine.
[18:35] <turtlez> hi i am having truble installing ubuntu because it always says authentication failure help please
[18:35] <noneNN> tandyman100, check if u have xorg-*input installed
[18:35] <geeknic> Hi, does anyone know how to change the default image of an icon of a file?
[18:35] <Th-c> llutz:  it returns this "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 16 18:30 /home/public_html"
[18:35] <Pici> xckpd7: Can't you press f9 within screen/byobu to get to a menu?
[18:35] <thekaas> dave_ "cd /home/(your udername)"
[18:35] <noneNN> turtlez, where u get that message?
[18:35] <xckpd7> Pici: that just worked but I changed the theme to plain and now I can't do it
[18:36] <llutz> Th-c: so scp as root
[18:36] <dick> dick
[18:36] <turtlez> when it loads it gives me a log in screen
[18:37] <llutz> Th-c: maybe read a few basics about permissions/ownership etc. on *nix systems
[18:37] <asp> is there any safe file encryption without Dual_EC_DRBG random number generator?
[18:37] <derdon> is there a pdf viewer where I can set bookmarks on certain pages within a pdf document? it is 757 pages long and I want to switch between certain pages quickly
[18:37] <noneNN> turtlez, i guess ur not typen correctly the password... try login in recovery mode and restore yout password
[18:37] <asp> i heard that the us gov have a backdoor for Dual_EC_DRBG random number generator
[18:38] <Pici> !ot | asp
[18:38] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: Create "source $HOME/.byobu/profile" in ~/.screenrc
[18:38] <turtlez> wel i havent installedit yet soo reall confyusing was letting me  in before with a different cd
[18:38] <noneNN> turtlez, in terminal type sudo passwd user password
[18:38] <trism> derdon: I believe okular allows you to set bookmarks
[18:38] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: Then try "source ~/.profile ; screen"
[18:38] <arghh2d2> My turn to ask a question.  Has Ubuntu 9.10 undergone any bug fixes yet?
[18:39] <derdon> trism: thanks!
[18:39] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:39] <turtlez> also tried sudo
[18:39] <xckpd7> mobi-sheep: I don't understand the first part of your instructinos
[18:39] <xckpd7> you want me to create a file inside of another one?
[18:39] <dave_> thekaas,  ok I typed that in the entered it do I include the the code somehow?
[18:39] <noneNN> turtlez, did u restart ubuntu in single user mode?
[18:40] <fcuk112> arghh2d2: upon install of new 9.10, get 58MB of updates, so it's safe to say there have been some bug fixes i guess.
[18:40] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: Create a file ~/.screenrc and place the text inside "source $HOME/.byobu/profile"
[18:40] <turtlez> i stafrt it from cd im trying to intall
[18:41] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: Also, there are "byobu-select-profile" command you could use.
[18:41] <vis> hi all.
[18:41] <xckpd7> byobu-select-profile: command not found
[18:41] <xckpd7> mobi-sheep: ^
[18:41] <thekaas> dave_ you just moved to your home directory. now "mkdir win" to make a directory called win
[18:41] <datz_> Hi, I'm looking for a help page for installing compiz to get the cube effect on ubuntu 9.1
[18:41] <turtlez> any ideas whats happening to me?
[18:42] <vis> can anyone tell me what would be the best dreamweaver alternative available for ubuntu, and whether the web design tools available for linux are as useful as for windows?
[18:42] <soreau> datz: Ask in #compiz
[18:42] <datz> soreau: ok
[18:42] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: byobu + byobu-extras installed?
[18:42] <arghh2d2> fcuk112: i see, thanks for the info
[18:42] <dave_> thekaas, ok I did it.
[18:43] <mobi-sheep> vis: http://www.osalt.com/dreamweaver
[18:43] <turtlez> ok well i guess im on my own?
[18:43] <vis> mobi-sheep: do you have experience with any of these tools?
[18:43] <whiteymcq-tip> Anybody have any luck with using their blackberry on Ubuntu. I'm talking simple stuff. I just wanna get pics off it.
[18:44] <thekaas> now type "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home/(your username)/win"
[18:44] <mobi-sheep> vis: No, I do not. Also, there are gedit -- It supports plugins for syntax highlighting and such.
[18:44] <xckpd7> mobi-sheep: what is that?
[18:44] <Th-c> llutz: it asked me my local and remote password
[18:44] <Th-c> and it still not working.
[18:44] <vis> thanks mobi-sheep
[18:44] <vis> I think gedit might be a good starting point.
[18:45] <turtlez> ugh i guess im stuck with bill gates shit.......
[18:45] <xckpd7> mobi-sheep: it's some improved GNU Screen?
[18:45] <dave_> thekaas, ok I did that.
[18:45] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: I'll get you the link.
[18:46] <thekaas> now type "ls win"
[18:46] <dind> hii
[18:46] <dind> i am new to ubuntu
[18:47] <whiteymcq-tip> blackberry + Ubuntu help needed
[18:47] <dave_> thekaas, it says Boot  bootmgr  System Volume Information
[18:47] <Vinceman> so basically v4l2 is 323 ko-files in a directory... since I installed them with a make install command I cannot but delete them manually to get rid of them
[18:48] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: https://launchpad.net/byobu
[18:48] <Vinceman> mobi-sheep, lol
[18:48] <thekaas> dave_ then its not the right drive we've mounted
[18:48] <santi> .
[18:49] <thekaas> dave_ how many "sda"'s where there when you listed them?
[18:49] <mobi-sheep> xckpd7: Basically, the developer wish to rename screen-profiles to byobu as to make itself more unique rather than an addon for screen. ;)
[18:50] <Vinceman> does anybody know anything about v4l2?
[18:50] <xckpd7> mobi-sheep: I don't even know what screen-profiles is but w/e you know what your talking about.... I'll install it
[18:50] <Vinceman> Guest97293 is now known as milf
[18:51] <xckpd7> yeah I couldn't find byobu through sudo apt-get
[18:51] <dave_> thekaas, there is sda, and 1,2,3,
[18:51] <cow1> whats the best way to install LAMP?
[18:52] <trism> xckpd7: screen-profiles/byobu is just a customized profile for screen that gives you the window list and that informational strip at the bottom, plus some custom key bindings...it used to be installed by default with screen on ubuntu before 9.10
[18:52] <xckpd7> trism: oh ok thx makes sense
[18:52] <xckpd7> how to install it?
[18:52] <cow1> whats the best way to install Apache and PHP?
[18:52] <IdleOne> !lamp
[18:52] <dave_> thekaas, when I go to the host folder it shows it to be the root. or /
[18:54] <thekaas> dave_ when you installed ubuntu did you then use the whole harddisk for ubuntu?
[18:54] <v1tal3> quick question: I have a USB device (USB to VGA technically) that's not being recognized in Ubuntu 9.10. Is there a way to manually get Ubuntu to find the device?
[18:54] <secher> Just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10.  Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing 800X600 max resolution?  I was running at 1920X1200 on 8.10.  I had no proprietary drivers, and am using none now.  I can't seem to find this on the 'Net.  Is anyone else experiencing a resolution problem?
[18:54] <v1tal3> I thought there was a way via the CLI terminal, but I can't remember how to see device resources in there and all
[18:54] <cow1> is there a command that will tell me my system information?
[18:54] <norbert_> brauch nen sechsten, mindestens so l33t wie arc, skilled wie flemming, retarded wie onespot, dreist wie diph und derbe sexy wie ich. danke
[18:55] <dave_> thekaas, No I installed it by means of wubi in windows
[18:56] <H_Mike_H> I have some files in french, and when I go to display them with less I get <E9> where the accented e's are supposed to be, default install of Ubuntu 9.10 in GNOME Terminal.  How do I fix this?
[18:56] <cow1> how do I check if Apache is already installed?
[18:57] <IdleOne> apt-cache policy apache?
[18:57] <IdleOne> apache2?
[18:57] <cow1> yes
[18:57] <VCoolio> cow1: dpkg -l | grep -i apache     << if you're not sure about the precise name
[18:57] <softhome> hello
[18:58] <adrian_> hy there
[18:58] <thekaas> dav_ i see, as a virtual machine. That might be the problem... Then i cant help you. Sorry :(
[18:58] <softhome> will a 550 watts power supply give enough power to 4pcs of 1terabyte sata hard drives? cause i'm planning to do raid5.
[18:58] <thekaas> *dave_
[18:59] <mbeierl> tab to complete broken for Java again?
[18:59] <Aggrav8d> hi, ubuntu.  I made the kernel upgrade and now I can't access samba.  no one's awake in #samba, so I'm here for some advice on how to diagnose the issue.  Can anyone please advise?
[18:59] <mbeierl> in karmic?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> softhome, 4pcs ?
[18:59] <softhome> BluesKaj, yup 4pcs.
[19:00] <BluesKaj> don't they have thier own power supplies ?
[19:00] <dave_> thekaas, It says on the wubi site I should be able to access the files through host folder but that's where I run into the permission problem. Thanks for trying.
[19:00] <softhome> BluesKaj, what do you mean?
[19:00] <IdleOne> softhome: define pcs?
[19:00] <Kartinka> Hey guys, i was hiding some unmounted partitions with DevKit / udev Rules, but i search for a way to hide these partitions completely from the system not only from gnome / nautilus. Can anyone help me?!
[19:01] <datz> Hi, I've installed apache2, and php5, when when I go to localhost to open a phpfile, firefox doesn't know how to handle it, and asks if I want to download it
[19:01] <llutz> softhome: pc = processor-cores?
[19:01] <softhome> it's 4pieces or 4units of 1 terabyte sata hard drive each using only 550 watts hec power supply.
[19:01] <leaf-sheep> xckpd7: Sorry. I got disconnected.
[19:01] <IdleOne> softhome: in that case yes that should be fine
[19:01] <rdsfgxdftgd> EY FRESH UBUNTUS!
[19:02] <rdsfgxdftgd> EVERYTHING FRESH WITH YOU?!?!?!?!?
[19:02] <rdsfgxdftgd> ?!?!?!?
[19:02] <IdleOne> !caps | rdsfgxdftgd
[19:02] <softhome> IdleOne, no need to go up to 750 even if i intend to run it 24/7 as a server? :)
[19:02] <VCoolio> datz: is the php in the folder where localhost looks? (that is: /var/www)
[19:02] <cow1> Where can I find instructions on how to use LAMP on Ubuntu?
[19:02] <Trolly123234> KLAPPE!
[19:02] <BluesKaj> softhome, do you realize what the short form d for computers is ? it's "pc"
[19:02] <datz> VCoolio: yep
[19:02] <epinky> !lamp | cow1
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[19:02] <IdleOne> softhome: the more the better I guess
[19:02] <datz> VCoolio: I can go to the dir and find an html file, and it loads fine
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[19:02] <xckpd7> leaf-sheep: no totally fine... um I was having problems installing byobu
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[19:03] <FloodBot3> Trolly123234: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <softhome> BluesKaj, i know. :) i should've put a period after the abbreviation of pieces (pcs.)
[19:03] <BluesKaj> stop that Trolly123234
[19:03] <leaf-sheep> xckpd7: What problem?
[19:03] <xckpd7> leaf-sheep: sudo apt-get install byobu no work
[19:03] <BluesKaj> use the word pieces then, softhome , don't confuse the issue , use real words
[19:04] <leaf-sheep> xckpd7: "aptitude search byobu"  Do you see some packages?
[19:04] <softhome> BluesKaj, but i also didn't put aphostrohe and 's' ('s) after "pc" to make it sound like PC's
[19:04] <xckpd7> leaf-sheep: nope
[19:04] <trism> xckpd7: are you on 9.04?
[19:05] <VCoolio> datz: is apache running? "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" Actually I don't remember right what I had to do to get it working
[19:05] <softhome> anyway, thanks so much IdleOne
[19:05] <BluesKaj> softhome, anyway 550 watts for 4 drives is "iffy"
[19:05] <Kartinka> Hey guys, i was hiding some unmounted partitions with DevKit / udev Rules, but i search for a way to hide these partitions completely from the system not only from gnome / nautilus. Can anyone help me?!
[19:05] <datz> VCoolio: yes, remember I can open html pages
[19:05] <xckpd7> trism: yeah
[19:05] <trism> xckpd7: you should just need to install screen-profiles before 9.10
[19:05] <softhome> BluesKaj: "iffy" meaning? exact? or overkill?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> underpowered
[19:06] <epinky> datz: did you do the AddType, LoadModule and that stuff parts?
[19:06] <softhome> BluesKaj, oh...
[19:06] <trism> xckpd7: then you can change your profile with ...I think the command was screen-profiles
[19:06] <datz> epinky: no
[19:06] <trism> xckpd7: although you can do a dpkg -L screen-profiles and see what gets installed in /usr/bin
[19:06] <VCoolio> datz: yes, but I also messed with drupal and had to restart apache before it recognised new stuff, mysql etc
[19:06] <H_Mike_H> Can anyone help me on getting french characters to display properly in less?  n vi they display fine.  less is showing p as  <E9>
[19:06] <datz> epinky: I've not had to do that in the past
[19:06] <softhome> BluesKaj, if i go 700 watts? would that be enough?
[19:06] <epinky> !lamp | datz
[19:06] <datz> VCoolio: I've restarted several times
[19:07] <softhome> BluesKaj, core2duo, nvidia 8500gT, 1tb sata x 4 and 700watts power supply. would that be okay?
[19:07] <Bonz> anyone have a fix fr eeepctray crashing on a relatively fresh install
[19:07] <BluesKaj> softhome, yes that would give you some " headroom "
[19:07] <xckpd7> trism: thanks, that worked
[19:08] <softhome> BluesKaj, cool then, thanks for the advice. i should really get that A+ certification.
[19:08] <softhome> thanks people!
[19:08] <vinnie_> how do i make the nvidia-settings stick?
[19:08] <matimiecio> http://wilku.on.toribash.com/
[19:09] <BluesKaj> vinnie_, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[19:09] <matimiecio> pleas help me http://wilku.on.toribash.com/
[19:09] <xckpd7> any suggestions for a window manager that's fairly easy to use? all I'm looking for is the ability to be able to resize/control windows and nothing more
[19:09] <matimiecio> http://wilku.on.toribash.com/
[19:09] <matimiecio> http://wilku.on.toribash.com/
[19:09] <FloodBot3> matimiecio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <erUSUL> vinnie_: run it with gksudo and save settings to X file
[19:09] <erUSUL> vinnie_: gksudo nvidia-settings
[19:09] <llutz> xckpd7: twm
[19:10] <matimiecio> http://wilku.on.toribash.com/
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> !ops | matimiecio (advertising)
[19:11] <dave_> thekaas, I wonder if I am better off installing it on it's own partition.. I just get nervous of making new partitions I can't get rid of later
[19:11] <vinnie_> erUSUL: thanx
[19:11] <TripleDES> hi, all
[19:11] <Vinceman> what basically is installing v4l2 more than copying a whole bunch of files into a directory? there's no such thing as a registry in linux, is there?
[19:11] <thekaas> dave_ what windows version are you running?
[19:11] <Bonz> vinnie_: superglue
[19:12] <TripleDES> anyone having problems with karmic and usb devices on netbooks?
[19:12] <dave_> thekaas, 7
[19:12] <epinky> !anyone | TripleDES
[19:13] <TripleDES> got it...
[19:13] <TripleDES> :)
[19:13] <leaf-sheep> Vinceman: There are gconf-editor but that's not really a registry. It just looks like i. It's a tool used to edit configuration database, desktop preferences, etc.
[19:13] <Horus> lol ubottu
[19:14] <thekaas> dave_, then you should be able to shrink your windows partition, if you have enough free space. Im not in linux right now so I cant help you find it right now.
[19:14] <TripleDES> I have two different netbooks, hp mini and medion akoya, both have problems with usb devices. The hp mini freezes when copying files from a usb massive storage device and medion is unable to use my 3g usb modem....
[19:14] <BluesKaj> Vinceman, well, they're called libs . What are you trying to do ?
[19:14] <bradland> About to do something kind of invasive, and would like a sanity check. I'm going to change the hostname of an Ubuntu machine that is running on a remote network following this guide, which appears to be fairly recent: http://burnz.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/how-to-change-the-hostname-in-ubuntu/
[19:14] <Vinceman> BluesKaj, I'm trying to uninstall 4vl2 because my webcam only works under v4l (1)
[19:14] <TripleDES> I was able to perform both tasks before upgrading to karmic
[19:14] <bradland> Anyone see anything missed on that list?
[19:16] <TripleDES> I think I'm going to ask on the forums to decide whether I need to open a bug report or not....
[19:16] <Th-c> anyoneknow why I get Permission denied when I try to scp ?
[19:16] <leaf-sheep> Th-c: Throw out the full scp command you tried to use.
[19:16] <ghostbyte> Does landscape have its own support channel?
[19:16] <bradland> Th-c: if the user you're using for your scp session doesn't have permissions for the write location, you'll get permissions errors.
[19:16] <Th-c> sudo scp -P 30000 -pr folder/* name_of_serv@ip_address:/home/public_html
[19:16] <Horus> TripleDES, not really much help, but sounds like it's maybe a usb support problem not addressed in the karmic kernel for your netbooks.  Could try to recompile the kernel.
[19:17] <dave_> thekaas,  That's alright I will be planning my next move.. maybe a new install.. My next question if say in the future I want to install a new version of ubuntu over this one can I do this on the same new partion? Or can I erase the ubuntu partion w/o affecting windows?
[19:17] <Shwack> Should i have a BIOS password set ?
[19:17] <bradland> Th-c: name_of_serv should be a username, not a hostname
[19:17] <TripleDES> Horus: I think it is, but they both have different chipsets and found that weird....two chipsets with similar bug?....
[19:18] <Th-c> bradland: yes is uername
[19:18] <leaf-sheep> bradland: I have changed my hostname in the past few times without any hiccup and the tutorial you post looks decent. It seems to be okay.
[19:18] <H_Mike_H> Th-c   it's not name_of_serv@ip    it's  user@ip
[19:18] <TripleDES> Horus: will try to recompile the kernel tonight....
[19:18] <dave_> thekaas, that is assuming I do a new install on a new partition not a virtual one as I have now.
[19:18] <bradland> Th-c: ok, can you successfully `name_of_serv@ip_address`
[19:18] <BluesKaj> Vinceman, i think you mean v4l2 , in the terminal sudo apt-get remove v4l2, then , sudo apt-get install v4l1
[19:18] <TripleDES> Horus: you mean a vanilla kernel ?
[19:18] <bradland> leaf-sheep: thanks for the sanity check :)
[19:18] <bradland> Th-c: sorry, meant `ssh name_of_serv@ip_address`
[19:18] <thekaas> dave_ then i bellieve you can just erase the Ubuntu partition
[19:18] <Horus> TripleDES, that is odd.  hmm... haven't seen anyone else with the issue, but then again I haven't been looking and I'm still new to ubuntu, coming from gentoo ;)
[19:18] <leaf-sheep> Th-c: Also, the folder you receive/send with scp should have permissions too.
[19:18] <llutz> Th-c: as i already told you: since that destination-directory is owned by root, you have to scp as root or copy it elsewhere and copy local later
[19:19] <Horus> TripleDES, yup
[19:19] <Vinceman> BluesKaj E: Couldn't find package v4l2
[19:19] <Cale> Hey, in my .fonts.conf I have MS Gothic listed above any other Japanese font in the prefer lists for serif/sans-serif/monospace but ever since I installed Karmic, it seems that it likes to choose some Mincho-style font over it, and I'm not sure what to do to fix that.
[19:19] <TripleDES> Horus: I'm a gentoo user too ;)
[19:19] <epinky> Th-c: isn't that username@ip_address ?
[19:19] <llutz> Th-c: scp as root fails on *buntu, because of the deactivated root-account
[19:19] <dave_> thekaas, thanks for trying to help.
[19:19] <Th-c> yes I can ssh to the same server . ... .
[19:19] <Vinceman> BluesKaj, Reading package lists went well and so did Building dependency tree and Reading state information
[19:19] <Horus> TripleDES, hahaha!  nice!  I've been using karmic for about a week and I gotta admit... it's slick as hell.  I was a ubuntu skeptic, but now I'm a believer.
[19:19] <norbert_> 6o6 medpluz our server
[19:20] <bradland> Horus: loving that karmic went to rsyslog
[19:20] <thekaas> dave_ youre welcome:)
[19:20] <TripleDES> Horus: that's my case too! but still keeping gentoo at non-desktop sytems
[19:20] <jjh> hey guys
[19:20] <bradland> We've got these AdTran VoIP to legacy T1 gateways all over the place that support syslog forwarding
[19:20] <Horus> bradland, one of the reasons that I decided to throw up a test partition... it became my main now :(  lol
[19:21] <Th-c> leaf-sheep: how do I set the permission of the file I am sending ?
[19:21] <TripleDES> Horus: will grab the latest vanilla kernel and recompile it, let's see...
[19:21] <epinky> Th-c: don't forget to "sudo passwd root" on the end machine as llutz said
[19:21] <Vinceman> BluesKaj (I made a bad move installing v4l2 with this page: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers
[19:21] <Vinceman> )
[19:21] <Horus> TripleDES, hope it works man!
[19:21] <Th-c> Vinceman: what do you mean ?
[19:22] <leaf-sheep> Th-c: Use your account. Send it to ~/ -- Ssh in and use sudo to move the file/folder to places where regular users should not tread on.
[19:23] <llutz> Th-c: i highly recommend to read a few basics about permissions/ownership etc. on *nix systems
[19:23] <Vinceman> Th-C I installed v4l2 with a sudo make install command
[19:23] <ghostbyte> I'm trying to signup for the Canonical Landscape trial but I get nothing but a confirmation of receipt. Been trying since september.
[19:23] <Tiders-> Does WoW work in Wine?
[19:24] <Infin1ty> Tiders-, yep, works well for me
[19:24] <Vinceman> Th-C from source I think, I'm not really sure though
[19:24] <Kartinka> Hey guys, i was hiding some unmounted partitions with DevKit / udev Rules, but i search for a way to hide these partitions completely from the system not only from gnome / nautilus. Can anyone help me?!
[19:24] <Th-c> yes I managed to scp to a different directory on the same server
[19:24] <Tiders-> Infin1ty, Any problems?
[19:24] <Vinceman> Th-C anyway, it says on that site
[19:25] <Infin1ty> Tiders-, hmm nope, but you should know what when you first login into the server and it downloads stuff, it's actually downloading and not hanging :) at first i though wine didn't respond and got stuck when it was actually downloading
[19:25] <Vinceman> BluesKaj, Th-C anyway, I'm going to manually delete the ko-files because there's no other way to go I'm afraid
[19:25] <BluesKaj> Vinceman, in the terminal cd to the v4l2 folder , then make uninstall v4l2
[19:25] <Th-c> ko ?
[19:25] <Vinceman> BluesKaj uninstall: command not found
[19:25] <Tiders-> Infin1ty, SO how do I do this exactly Ive never used Wine
[19:26] <Infin1ty> Tiders-, search in google, World of Warcraft and wine, you'll get plenty of info, there are also docs - ubuntu related as well
[19:27] <Vinceman> Tiders- Infin1ty when I wine Warcraft III I don't get sound and the task bar of linux is underneath my screen moving the top few lines off it
[19:27] <BluesKaj> Vinceman, in the v4l2 folder , look for a readme or install text file , there usually are instructions for uninstalls there
[19:27] <Guest71801> How can I create Ubuntu server usb flash from windows?
[19:27] <trism> Cale: check out the example file http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3105266.0 apparently in karmic you have to specify fallbacks in a slightly different format (I should probably try that too, firefox defaults to some terrible japanese fonts in karmic)
[19:27] <Infin1ty> Vinceman, perhaps you didn't configure wine correctly, use winecfg to configure your sound, regarding your taskbar, i have no idea, perhaps you don't go full window?
[19:28] <max1991> laugh wi
[19:28] <epinky> Guest71801: look for "unetbootin"
[19:29] <Q|noob> How to eliminate deadkeys on a 2nd display?
[19:29] <Cale> trism: Yeah, I just went through my fonts trying to identify what it was selecting, and it's using Chinese fonts for hiragana, which is basically always a bad plan.
[19:30] <norbert_> 6o6 medpluz our server
[19:30] <Vinceman> BluesKaj no uninstall instructions are found :(
[19:32] <norbert_> 6o6 medpluz our server
[19:33] <Vinceman> BluesKaj, isn't v4l backward installable or something?
[19:34] <bradland> hrm. /etc/init.d/hostname.sh doesn't exist on karmic. any leads on what the new equivalent would be?
[19:34] <Tiders-> Does WoW work as good in WIne as it does in Cedega?
[19:35] <deai> is there a problem with ubuntu repository
[19:35] <deai> i get errors on a live cd for installing anything even basic
[19:35] <tsimpson> bradland: what did /etc/init.d/hostname.sh do? (I'm assuming set the hostname, but you know never to assume)
[19:35] <smeags> is there a way to switch to classic view from netbook remix view
[19:35] <Cale> trism: btw, another quick fix  apt-get remove ttf-wqy-zenhei  seems to have worked
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Vinceman, did you open terminal , then cd to the v4l2 folder "cd v4l2foldername" without he quotes ?
[19:36] <Cale> trism: (but I should probably redo my .fonts.conf anyway)
[19:36] <ZykoticK9> smeags, i'm affraid not...
[19:36] <bradland> tsimpson: a guide i'm using satates that I should "restart the hostname service" using /etc/init.d/hostname.sh stop|start
[19:36] <bradland> whoa s/statates/states/
[19:36] <TheLizardKing_> The doors --> The best group of the worl
[19:36] <TheLizardKing_> world*
[19:36] <Q|noob> Tiders, I'm playing it in Wine. Depends on what you define as "good". It's not making any problems, but I can't tell anything about performance
[19:37] <redrebel> does puttin your system in hibernate or sleep, reset your uptime??
[19:37] <muep__> redrebel: usually no
[19:37] <tsimpson> bradland: well there is no "hostname" service in ubuntu
[19:37] <bradland> tsimpson: heh, "well there's your problem!"
[19:37] <Tiders-> What version of WIne is in the Karmic repos
[19:37] <redrebel> what's the oldest uptime you guys have seen??
[19:37] <Guest71801> epinky, will I be able to install Ubuntu Server from it?
[19:38] <leaf-sheep> bradland: Try "source ~/.profile"
[19:38] <JediMaster> Tiders-, 1.0.1-0ubuntu8 according to apt-cache show
[19:38] <bradland> i'm exploring the contents of `man hostname` right now. it appears that this would be the best way to alter the hostname. i'm not sure why this guide suggests all this `sudo vi`
[19:38] <tsimpson> bradland: there is the "hostname" command which shows or sets the system's host name
[19:38] <leaf-sheep> bradland: Use nano instead of vi. :o
[19:38] <Tiders-> JediMaster, Is that 1.1.32... There is no 0ubuntu8 on the Wine site
[19:38] <bradland> nano, wtf?
[19:38] <tsimpson> and guide that suggests "sudo vi" is evil and should be discarded
[19:38] <Tonisius> any?
[19:39] <fx3> bradland, there is much more to changing the hostname than just the command 'hostname'
[19:39] <smeags> is it worth switching over to ubuntu from xp
[19:39] <bradland> tsimpson: no, i'm just perplexed by why this guide would suggest manually editing the files when there is a utility that will do the job.
[19:39] <epinky> Guest71801: afaik, it' installs Ubuntu Server in your USB
[19:39] <ghostbyte>  Anyway to announce ip address in Ubuntu? My switches are caching the information. When I add a new IP with FreeBSD the switches see the change right away but not with ubuntu.
[19:39] <bradland> fx3: thanks, can you have a look at this guide? http://burnz.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/how-to-change-the-hostname-in-ubuntu/
[19:39] <tsimpson> bradland: like I said, it's evil :)
[19:39] <Guest71801> I need installation USB. How can I do that epinky ?
[19:39] <JediMaster> Tiders-, normally the part after the dash is the package version, so ignore that, 1.0.1 I would presume then
[19:39] <leaf-sheep> smeags: I switched over to Ubuntu from Vista less about a year ago. I'll say definitely.
[19:39] <bradland> fx3: the script mentioned for restarting the "hostname service" doesn't appear to exist
[19:39] <norbert_> 6o6 medpluz our server
[19:40] <fx3> bradland, and be very caucious if you dont have physical access to the machine. hostname is somehow tied into sudo, once i changed the systems hostname and it wouldnt let me sudo anymore
[19:40] <Q|noob> How to eliminate deadkeys on a 2nd display? loadkeys? Or is that just for console?
[19:40] <JoeBloe> Is there a way to fix hibernating/suspending in Ubuntu 9.10?
[19:40] <zleap> smeags, i agreee, switched from XP to ubuntu,  not looked back,  what is windows for anyway
[19:40] <bradland> fx3: exactly my concern
[19:40] <tsimpson> !hostname | bradland, this is the recommended way
[19:41] <epinky> Guest71801: check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:41] <bradland> tsimpson: rockin, thanks man
[19:41] <fx3> bradland, yea, this isnt right, the restart of the networking stack is required. i think its sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart, but im not sure, give me a minute and ill have a look properly for you
[19:42] <Vinceman> Blueskaj yes
[19:42] <BluesKaj> fx3, read tsimpson's post above
[19:43] <bradland> well, the good news is that the output of hostname matches the contents of the entries in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[19:43] <trism> Cale: thanks, that seems to have fixed it for me too
[19:43] <fx3> bradland, can i ask what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:44] <bradland> karmic
[19:44] <BluesKaj> Vinceman, what is the actual name of the folder created after the v4l2 install ?
[19:45] <Cale> trism: Rewriting my .fonts.conf has produced an even better result. I'm using Verdana/Georgia/Andale Mono for my first-level defaults, and then having those three fall back to MS Gothic
[19:45] <Vinceman> Blueskaj v4l-dvb/v4l
[19:45] <ganjanaut> font/unicode question: some cjk characters aren't showing up, but they seem to be visible on my windows machine.  any idea what i should do?
[19:45] <fx3> bradland, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart is what you need to do
[19:45] <craigbass1976> I can't get a lamp server up and running for some reason...  I'm getting Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect().  Is this more of a php question?
[19:45] <bradland> fx3: thx, will give that a host
[19:45] <samon> bonjour
[19:45] <bradland> shot
[19:46] <fx3> bradland, this is same as doing an actualy restart, this will read the /etc/hostname file and assign it to the computer
[19:46] <epinky> !fr | samon
[19:46] <samon> sqfùelke
[19:46] <samon> fefjùspekf
[19:46] <samon> efefes
[19:46] <samon> fme
[19:46] <samon> fe
[19:46] <samon> lf
[19:46] <FloodBot3> samon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <bradland> fx3: doh, i exited my terminal session, now it won't restart
[19:46] <fx3> bradland, but you should also relogin with your session.
[19:46] <bradland> terminal dies
[19:46] <_Hammer_> lol
[19:46] <fx3> bradland, networking restart shouldnt really stop the termindal
[19:47] <ganjanaut> craigbass1976: there is seperate package for php-mysql, i believe
[19:47] <bradland> fx3: i hit ctrl-d thinking i had another terminal tab open, but it closed the last one
[19:47] <bradland> now terminal won't start
[19:47] <bradland> ugh
[19:47] <ganjanaut> craigbass1976: you probably need to install that
[19:47] <fx3> bradland, what do you mean wont start ? are you in gui ? are you on the local machine?
[19:47] <bradland> i'm in through VNC
[19:47] <Cale> ganjanaut: Which characters? Basically, if *some* font on your system has them, they should appear. Installing the MS Gothic and Mincho fonts tends to be helpful.
[19:47] <bradland> fx3: going to try an ssh session too
[19:47] <fx3> ahh, yes, that should work better
[19:48] <ganjanaut> Cale: 0x536
[19:48] <bradland> fx3: cannot browse through "Places" either
[19:48] <bradland> yikes
[19:48] <ganjanaut> Cale: 0x536A for one
[19:48] <samon> bougougou
[19:48] <samon> mdr
[19:48] <ganjanaut> sorry, cat walked on my keyboard
[19:48] <samon> salut
[19:48] <samon> loulou
[19:48] <samon> mdr
[19:48] <ganjanaut> Cale: most show up, just a few are missing
[19:48] <fx3> bradland, yes, this is all related to the networking stack, you might have to restart the whole machine if you cant get access otherwise
[19:48] <Cale> ganjanaut: Aha, I'm actually missing that one too.
[19:48] <zChris> what do you use to remove services from boot in Ubuntu 6. It seems its not using the rc-update script
[19:48] <bradland> fx3: yeah, going to try that
[19:49] <samon> --'
[19:49] <ganjanaut> Cale: yeah i checked every font installed by default, none of them have it
[19:49] <dmsuperman> /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd is using 140M of RAM
[19:49] <dmsuperman> How can I stop this?
[19:49] <samon> salut
[19:49] <samon> hi
[19:49] <samon> ejêdo
[19:49] <samon> fejfs
[19:49] <samon> fg
[19:49] <samon> rdhl
[19:49] <samon> d
[19:49] <FloodBot3> samon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <ganjanaut> I'd like to avoid installing non-free fonts if i can
[19:49] <craigbass1976> ganjanaut, I've been doing that, but now that I'm only install that one thing, I see a Couldn't find package php-mysql message.  THAT would probably explain a lot.
[19:50] <samon> mais putin
[19:50] <dmsuperman> craigbass1976: It's php5-mysql
[19:50] <epinky> samon: c'est amusant?
[19:50] <ganjanaut> dmsuperman: ty
[19:50] <samon> epinky tu est francais??
[19:50] <dmsuperman> ganjanaut: No problem :)
[19:50] <Flannel> samon: Please speak english in this channel.
[19:50] <epinky> !fr | samon
[19:51] <craigbass1976> dmsuperman, ganjanaut    php5-mysql is already the newest version
[19:51] <ganjanaut> slightly tangential font question: is helvetica non-free?
[19:51] <samon> car je parle tres mal anglais
[19:51] <epinky> !fr > samon
[19:51] <frostburn> how does one minimize a window without using the mouse
[19:51] <penguin42> ganjanaut: I seem to remember at least the name is none-free
[19:52] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi, does hardy support UMTS "internet keys"?
[19:52] <penguin42> frostburn: Alt+F9 or alt-space and then m
[19:52] <penguin42> frostburn: oops, n
[19:52] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I mean if my mother buys it will she be able to use it without my intervention on hardy?
[19:52] <kostkon> !test
[19:52] <Le-Chuck_ITA> my mother is not a computer geek :)
[19:53] <norbert_> 6o6 medpluz our server
[19:53] <frostburn> penguin42, ahh thanks, where can i find/set similar shortcuts
[19:53] <kiu> hello. i'm using ubuntu 9.04. have done a setup on network connection manager for movile broadband and setup tool looks perfect, but dont have an option to connect to the newly created network
[19:53] <Cale> ganjanaut: The *real* helvetica? Probably.
[19:53] <JediMaster> norbert_, what does that mean and why do you keep saying it?
[19:53] <RRockon> Hi
[19:53] <Cale> ganjanaut: Well, hmm.
[19:53] <ganjanaut> penguin42, Cale: ah, well that's a shame
[19:53] <RRockon> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 but everything python doesn't work
[19:54] <Cale> ganjanaut: It's like one of those things which maybe transcends copyright issues.
[19:54] <fx3> bradland, how are you doing?
[19:54] <bradland> fx3: machine won't restart. heh. figures
[19:54] <penguin42> Cale: Yeh I think it's possibly a trademark
[19:54] <fx3> bradland, can you get through with ssh?
[19:55] <dAnon1> I've got a problem with timing out whenever I try to browse other computers (windows machines) and can't reach the printer
[19:55] <bradland> fx3: tried: menu, restart..., result: machine just sits; tried: ssh, result: cannot log in; tried alt+f2, shutdown -r now, result: nothing
[19:55] <Cale> ganjanaut: I'm just looking to see if I can find a Bitstream Cyberbit ttf. I bet that font has the characters you want.
[19:55] <Cale> ganjanaut: I used to have it installed, but I don't know what happened to it.
[19:55] <fx3> bradland, so you are at the physical machine?
[19:55] <bradland> fx3: no, but i can get someone there
[19:55] <FrozenFire[work]> nect
[19:55] <fx3> bradland, to restart the machine forsfully do 'sudo reboot'
[19:56] <bradland> fx3: i can't get to a tty
[19:56] <histo> fx3: thats not forcefully
[19:56] <jayce> hey guys - I copied some files off of an XP computer earlier and stored them on my ubuntu computer. Now Im trying to throw them up on our windows server and I cannot transfer them, and yes I have samba installed. What can I do?
[19:56] <ganjanaut> Cale: ah, ty
[19:56] <histo> bradland: where did you try shutdown -r then if you can't get to console?
[19:57] <bradland> by pressing alt+f2, which brings up a "run" prompt
[19:57] <dnsart> Hello everybody, i have problems with my webcam, it's a logitech quickcam pro 4000 can someone help me?
[19:57] <histo> bradland: ahhh.  Well have the person at the physical machine press ctrl+alt+F1  then have them log in. Then they can type in sudo reboot
[19:57] <jayce> cancel that - instead of putting my files FROM ubuntu TO windows I just went in windows and logged in to my samba server and pulled them down - all is well now
[19:57] <epinky> jayce: easy way would be using SSH
[19:58] <histo> bradland: or if you can ssh in to the box you could do it yourself.
[19:58] <bradland> histo: any idea what happens if i do that through VNC?
[19:58] <elohmrow> irc.freenode.net
[19:58] <jayce> epinky - Im aight now, but I have no idea why it was giving me issues.
[19:58] <jayce> epinky - its like I didnt have permission to copy to my windows server
[19:58] <fx3> bradland, nothing will happen, VNC does not have access to the dev terminals
[19:58] <Kartinka> Hey guys, i was hiding some unmounted partitions with DevKit / udev Rules, but i search for a way to hide these partitions completely from the system not only from gnome / nautilus. Can anyone help me?!
[19:58] <epinky> jayce: great :)
[19:58] <jayce> epinky - so just did it the other way around and went from windows TO ubuntu and Im aight now, but still strange.
[19:58] <bradland> histo: i can't ssh in, unfortunately. trying to change the hostname
[19:58] <bradland> fx3: thx
[19:58] <histo> bradland: If you can switch to a console through vnc which I doubt. It will log you out while its shutting down as vnc stops.
[19:58] <bradland> histo: good point
[19:58] <daleks_> What's the best way to build a user for a daemon services?  I'm looking at:  useradd --system --shell=/sbin/noshell mysvcname
[19:59] <samon> vhtjrktulymuoùip
[19:59] <jawallace> What is Ubuntu's tolerance for shutting down a computer by holding the power button?
[19:59] <samon> cxdrgrfdbgffbbbbffbfbfbfbffbfbfbfbfbfbfbfvfghj
[19:59] <samon> srghtjylp
[19:59] <samon> fgrsgrg
[19:59] <samon> sgeskforgdk ri ,gdi, g ig^ikrd,
[19:59] <FloodBot3> samon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <samon> rdgo
[19:59] <histo> bradland: Is there a problem with restarting nomrally?
[19:59] <bradland> histo: fx3: i'm concerned that the machine won't come up if i have an issue
[19:59] <jawallace> Yeah, morons... user error
[19:59] <dnsart> I can't use the cam in any program
[19:59] <bradland> histo: yes, it won't respond to normal reboot sequences
[20:00] <jawallace> Apparently some folks in the office have been holding down the power button to shutdown... and now a couple of the machines have disk errors
[20:00] <Cale> ganjanaut: http://ftp.nluug.nl/netscape/communicator/extras/fonts/windows/
[20:00] <histo> bradland: well if it doesn't come up it doesn't come up.  If you need to restart not much you can do about that.
[20:00] <_Hammer__> lol they should just pull the plug out of the back, it's quicker
[20:00] <Cale> ganjanaut: Get Cyberbit.ZIP from there, and unpack it into your ~/.fonts
[20:00] <jawallace> That is what I said..
[20:00] <bradland> histo: you are a true pragmatist :)
[20:00] <Cale> ganjanaut: It'll fill in the missing characters :)
[20:00] <fx3> bradland, if you cant get to a terminal, then there isnt much you can do, have your buddy at the other end reset the machine, unless histo has a better idea
[20:00] <jawallace> I forced them all the use Ubuntu to stop all the viruses and crap the office workers download
[20:00] <ganjanaut> Cale: do i need to change system fonts?
[20:01] <jawallace> our costs have dropped, and this is the first issue I've had
[20:01] <histo> bradland: well you can open a terminal applications > accesories > terminal
[20:01] <RRockon> Hey, I have a very odd error here. I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and none of the python things are working. Things like Gmount-iso and such are just spitting out errors... I have no clue what's wrong
[20:01] <histo> bradland: sry for the typos i'm typing rather fast.
[20:01] <Cale> ganjanaut: The system will use it automatically as a fallback.
[20:01] <Guest> http://www.laura-ich-hasse-dich.net/?uid=881801
[20:01] <ganjanaut> Cale: ty :)
[20:01] <jawallace> I guess power cycling off caused some lost data issues and now boot is stuck in a never ending cycle
[20:01] <bradland> histo: no problem. terminal won't start
[20:01] <histo> bradland: when did these problems start?
[20:02] <flootenkerp> Hi, how do I uninstall crossover games?
[20:02] <_Hammer__> jawallace: Sounds like you need to fire some users, probably screwed it up on purpose b/c they want windows lol
[20:02] <histo> flootenkerp: ask the crossover people you are paying for support.
[20:02] <bradland> histo: i just completed making some changes to /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, then accidentally ctrl+d out of my last term before i could restart networking
[20:02] <jawallace> That is one option... I guess your can't fix moron..
[20:02] <flootenkerp> I'm not, it's the demo
[20:02] <flootenkerp> I want to uninstall it
[20:02] <bradland> histo: attempting a hostname change
[20:02] <_Hammer__> bradland you should still be able to ssh / etc to the ip address
[20:02] <histo> bradland: ahh
[20:02] <jawallace> But I'm curious.. does power cycling off like that hurt the drive itself?
[20:02] <bradland> histo: which, might i mention, is far more precarious than it should be :-\
[20:03] <jawallace> I wouldn't think it would care who/what sends the halt signal to the power
[20:03] <Guest> einmal draufgehen bitte
[20:03] <Guest> http://www.laura-ich-hasse-dich.net/?uid=881801
[20:03] <Bonz> jawallace: sure it screams for hours after in pain
[20:03] <bradland> _Hammer__: linux doesn't like it when the hostname is borked. ssh, etc fails if there is a problem... which i caused in this case, so i guess i better quit complaining :)
[20:03] <RRockon> Anyone? It's very annoying... things like Blender scripts and such won't work. I tried googling for the errors it spits out, but no luck
[20:03] <pokobook> what is better ext3 or ext4 for installing ubuntu ?
[20:03] <_Hammer__> jawallace, I would say no but it's I.T. you never really know what's going on.  If anything it would corrupt the os b/c once the power button is pressed it begins the shutdown sequence and then powers off 5 seconds later
[20:03] <jawallace> Did you try wiping out Python and re installing it?
[20:04] <jawallace> ext3 and ext4? It is up to you.. I use ext3
[20:04] <Bonz> pokobook: how long is a piece of green string in july
[20:04] <histo> bradland: trying to find another way for you to do it unless there is physical access.
[20:04] <sebsebseb> pokobook: 9.10 has Ext4 by default
[20:04] <bradland> histo: i'm calling the guy on-site now
[20:04] <jawallace> Best option is to just let the install do its thing automatically, unless you have a reason for mucking with it
[20:04] <epinky> !who jawallace
[20:04] <sebsebseb> pokobook: for clean installs
[20:04] <bradland> going to try ctrl+alt+f1 access
[20:04] <epinky> !who | jawallace
[20:04] <JohnCDI> im trying to load DBAN to a flash drive with usb-creator but when i select the .iso it says its not recognized as a desktop install cd any help?
[20:04] <RRockon> I tried a reinstall on it
[20:04] <histo> bradland: yeah the onsite guy can restart the machine.
[20:05] <bradland> histo: do you know which tty has x on it
[20:05] <histo> bradland: also when it comes back up make sure to install ssh also. Kind of nice to have in situations like this.
[20:05] <jawallace> !JohnCDI Have you tried using K3b to mount it to the flash drive?
[20:05] <pokobook> anyone know ?
[20:05] <fx3> bradland, 7
[20:05] <stefg> pokobook: ext3 ist proven and stable, ext4 is quicker but might have some issues. I'd use ext4 for the system and ext3 for personal data (like /home)
[20:05] <bradland> histo: ssh is installed
[20:05] <histo> bradland: if you are looking for a way to secure ssh look at the fail2ban package.
[20:05] <bradland> fx3: thx
[20:05] <jawallace> JohnCDI Have you tried K#B to  mount the ISO to a flash drive?
[20:05] <histo> bradland: well then ssh to the box and restart it.
[20:05] <bradland> histo: ssh does not respond
[20:05] <pokobook> thank you stefg
[20:05] <histo> bradland: ahh because of the hostname change.
[20:05] <bradland> histo: because i was in the middle of a hostname change
[20:05] <Cale> ganjanaut: I'm not certain that there aren't other holes which are being plugged by other fonts on my system, but on a quick scroll through the CJK part of unicode in Character Map, I don't see any missing characters now.
[20:06] <bradland> yep :)
[20:06] <JohnCDI> no i havent tried that ive used usb creator to put ubuntu installs on the flash drive i figured it would be the same for dban.
[20:06] <histo> bradland: sounds like the only option is to have the onsite guy restart it.
[20:06] <bradland> histo: it's all on a private network. i'm using VNC instead of SSH because I'm stuck coming in through a Windows SSL to RDP session.... which makes me want to vomit
[20:06] <jawallace> JohnCDI  I used K3b to do something similar and it worked like a champ...  I believe you can get a gui version through apt-get
[20:07] <histo> bradland: when you vnc in are you taken to the gdm screen or straight to desktop?
[20:07] <JohnCDI> jawallace thanks i'll try it out and return
[20:07] <jawallace> JohnCDI Or you can just extract the iso to the usb and then manually make it bootable
[20:07] <pokobook> im trying to divide a drive half for windows data and the other half for ubuntu there is no such option in 9.10 installation.
[20:07] <bradland> histo: this is a new install. i'm not sure yet.
[20:07] <bradland> histo: i usually enable auto-login on these machines with screen lock on screensaver after 5 minutes
[20:07] <bradland> they're in a physically secure environment
[20:08] <jawallace> pokobook  Sure there is... Partition the drive for swap/ubuntu and win32
[20:08] <histo> bradland: ahh
[20:08] <Bam_Bam> Do ssh transfers initiated through the Connect to Server dialog use compression?
[20:08] <pokobook> im blindly trying based on luck and see if it works out
[20:08] <norta92> hola alguien habla latino
[20:08] <JohnCDI> jawallace im not sure how i would go about what you're saying
[20:08] <RRockon> I've also looked through forum posts but noone seems to have this issue
[20:08] <noneNN> norta92, i do...
[20:08] <johnnybot> n00b here< require advise on http rebuilding
[20:08] <histo> pokobook: manual partitioning
[20:08] <Guest71801> I used this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ to make USB installation disk for ubuntu server
[20:08] <Guest71801> will it work?
[20:09] <histo> pokobook: don't use guided
[20:09] <Guest71801> (I am waiting for files to extract from .iso)
[20:09] <fx3> johnnybot, what do you mean rebuilding?
[20:09] <pokobook> histo: thats what im trying to do now
[20:09] <jawallace> JohnCDI  8.10 had a startup creator that should do it..
[20:09] <histo> pokobook: well the option is there.
[20:09] <jawallace> JohnCDI.. Although I believe you can also do it through the command line
[20:09] <johnnybot> curious if possible to view traffic, http website flowing through network
[20:10] <bradland> histo: i don't think i've ever successfully changed the hostname of a linux box :-\
[20:10] <Bam_Bam> Do ssh / sftp transfers initiated through the Connect to Server dialog use the -C switch?
[20:10] <histo> bradland: I have by following
[20:10] <histo> !hostname | bradland
[20:10] <fx3> johnnybot, yea, tcpdump
[20:10] <JohnCDI> jawallace thats what ive used now usb-creator and its worked for making startups for ubuntu installations but for some reason wont do it for DBAN
[20:10] <bradland> histo: i followed that to the letter
[20:10] <bradland> i copy/paste the hostname to avoid errors as well
[20:10] <histo> bradland: edit those two files and you should be fine after restarting
[20:10] <pokobook> histo : already created 3000mb swap not too sure how to divide the rest
[20:10] <bradland> the only thing i did not do was restart networking
[20:11] <yast> anyone can give me a hand installing uplink ? the game...
[20:11] <bradland> histo: that'd be awesome. thx for all the help
[20:11] <ghabit> Hello. Which package on install automatically setups network/interfaces file?
[20:11] <histo> bradland: the machine will restart even if there are issues just whether networking will work or not is another question.
[20:11] <yast> its giving me an error saying something like missing a file in .setup858
[20:11] <jawallace> pokobook  Why did you create a 3gig swap?  I gues it doesn't matter because drives are so big now days
[20:11] <johnnybot> not found, using backtrack pre final
[20:11] <histo> pokobook: you said you wanted half for ubuntu and half for windows right?
[20:12] <pokobook> heard that it acts as extra memory
[20:12] <histo> pokobook: also I would install windows first. but thats another issue.
[20:12] <histo> !swap | pokobook
[20:12] <Bonz> pokobook: you heard wring
[20:12] <fx3> bradland, restarting the machine is same as restarting the networking stack. just if you get stuck between the steps, only thing you can do is restart the machine onsite. Ive had this issue once, but i didnt think the solution was so simple so i ended up reinstalling ^-^
[20:12] <Pici> johnnybot: We do not support Backtrack here.  They have their own support channel: #remote-exploit
[20:12] <jawallace> JohnCDI  Gotcha.  Did you try the "ultimate boot disk"?  It has Dban and other tools.  I believe it has a utility to make it a bootable USB
[20:12] <kirandeo> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 from CD?
[20:12] <johnnybot> ty
[20:12] <smeags> what does a swap mean?
[20:12] <andras> Hey can i ask you something?
[20:12] <bradland> fx3: oh, that's never happened to me. scouts honor. honest!
[20:13] <histo> kirandeo: apt-cdrom
[20:13] <histo> !apt-cdrom | kirandeo
[20:13] <jawallace> kirandeo  Put the CD in, reboot and follow the directions
[20:13] <smeags> whats a good linux game
[20:13] <histo> !info apt-cdrom | kirandeo
[20:13] <jawallace> smeags  swap is used to temporarily hold information as the processor works
[20:13] <JohnCDI> jawallace no i haven't heard of it. thanks thats another option i'll have to check out
[20:13] <fx3> bradland, it doesnt happen to me anymore, the other day i rescued a system which didnt work at all, didnt boot properly =) its easier when you know what your doing
[20:13] <histo> smeags: quakelive.com and urban terror
[20:13] <histo> !best > smeags
[20:13] <pokobook> i have windows already installed on another drive, i am trying to divide a second drive
[20:13] <Gantis> Is anyone else having trouble with recent NVIDIA driver updates?
[20:14] <grendal_prime> im trying to downgrade network-manager to 6.6 does anyone know how to do this. I keep getting strange dependency errors
[20:14] <MrMist> Hey guys
[20:14] <jawallace> JohnCDI  yw,, Do get it.  It has lots of awesome tools for every situation including Dban.. It also has a nice interface for all the tools...
[20:14] <histo> pokobook: okay do you want a seperate /home partition?
[20:14] <grendal_prime> this is on  a dell mini using there repos...i think thats where the issue is comming up.
[20:14] <jawallace> Gantis  Nvidia drivers and Ubuntu don' t like each other..
[20:14] <pokobook> yes
[20:14] <Gantis> I know :/
[20:14] <fx3> anyway, time for my question : i posted this message on the forums, but never got a reply, can anyone shed some light on it please? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8213132&postcount=64
[20:14] <MrMist> Having big problems. Installed Win7, then XP, and then Ubuntu. Can only boot Win7 and Ubuntu now.. how can I make my system triple-boot ?
[20:15] <jawallace> pokobook  If your drive is big.. here is what I would do...   30% ubuntu / 60% home / 3-4 gigs max for swap
[20:15] <histo> pokobook: okay well put about 20gigs for /  ext4 .  Then create the remainder of the half for /home ext4.  Then use the remainder of the drive as fat32 or ntfs if you want.
[20:15] <noneNN> MrMist, sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[20:15] <pokobook> cheers m8
[20:15] <histo> kirandeo: hold up let me find it there is apt-cdrom I don't know why its not coming up.
[20:16] <crizzle> hello, i need some help setting up a static IP for wireless on a laptop - can someone pm me and we can walk through it?
[20:16] <jawallace> Later ladies and gents.. the coffee shop is running me out... too much surfing not enough coffee buying.. later
[20:16] <MrMist> noneNN: I installed Ubuntu AFTER the two others.. haven't I done it already ?
[20:16] <Bam_Bam> where are the nautilus config files stores?
[20:16] <Bam_Bam> where are the nautilus config files stored?
[20:16] <noneNN> MrMist, try again...
[20:17] <buttons840> anyone aware of a good smtp server in the repos that i can install to test my email scripts?
[20:17] <histo> kirandeo: if you put the cd in it will ask you to upgrade to the new version.
[20:17] <Gantis> I've been searching through bug reports for the past 3 hours on how to fix my Xorg.conf file after accidentally installing new nvidia drivers. Can you give me any guidance?
[20:17] <MrMist> noneNN: Nothing about XP here.. Just "Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[20:17] <MrMist> noneNN: nothing about /dev/sda2
[20:17] <fx3> MrMist, there is a way to chainload windows with grub, there are some tutorials online
[20:18] <Gantis>  I've been searching through bug reports for the past 3 hours on how to fix my Xorg.conf file after accidentally installing new nvidia drivers. Can you give me any guidance? ... I'm running 2.6.31-15 generic
[20:18] <histo> pokobook: you can even get away with using 10 gigs for / but you want the biggest portion to be for you /home.  thats where all your files media etc... get stored. / is just for system files and installed software.
[20:18] <kirandeo> histo:ok
[20:18] <Six_String_sense> hey! im having trouble with this chmod x ELF 32-bit LSB executab
[20:19] <Bonz> 3gig swap seems overkill to me
[20:19] <noneNN> MrMist, u will have to edit grub2 manually... i have no idea how to do it...
[20:19] <MrMist> fx3: hmm.. don't know where to start looking.. any tips?
[20:19] <histo> kirandeo: it will pop up and ask you if you wan tot upgrade to the new version.
[20:19] <iceroot> buttons840: postfix
[20:19] <fx3> MrMist, one second
[20:19] <histo> iceroot: isn't there one installed by default?
[20:19] <pokobook> histo
[20:19] <Six_String_sense> it says theres something wrong with that command.. im trying to make planeshift client working..
[20:19] <histo> pokobook: yes?
[20:19] <pokobook> thank you , you were very detailed and helpful
[20:19] <MrMist> fx3: I don't have XP in the win7 bootloader either..
[20:20] <histo> pokobook: np
[20:20] <pisiq> can i have more then /home partition ? cause i just did the / part, /home and other xfs and ext4 partitions and i cant use those...i gotta put them a mount point also
[20:20] <fx3> MrMist, i believe you can load all 3 with just grub. but if your original XP bootloader is gone, you will have to do it manually, its not hard
[20:21] <histo> pisiq: if you specify mount points they will be used as those mount points.
[20:21] <mercutio22> doodes, I can't click with my eeepc touchpad. I mean, I can but I have to hold the button down for aproximately one entire seconde
[20:21] <thekaas> I have something with my package installer. It failed installing Ms corefonts, and now everytime it finishes installing something, it tries installing those fonts again and again...
[20:21] <histo> pisiq: such as make /home's mount point /home it would be used as your users /home
[20:21] <Bonz> histo: i'd not underestimate / size as /temp, etc can chew up space as well
[20:21] <pisiq> so how can i make those usable without any mount point ?
[20:21] <fx3> MrMist, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/add-windows-xp-entry-to-grub-434986/ try this
[20:22] <histo> pokobook: the other thing to keep in mind if you reinstall you just have the new system installed to / and you tell it to use your old /home as the current /home then all your files and settings will be saved.
[20:22] <Gantis> I unknowingly installed new nvidia drivers and it is causing great frustration. there is a problem with /var/log/Corg.0.log. Im running 2.6.31-15 generic ... Any tips?
[20:22] <histo> Bonz: yeah but i've never come close to pushing 10 gigs.
[20:22] <kirandeo> histo: i started the upgrade online... but my conn speed is slow so left it incomplete... so can continue through CD?
[20:22] <Peon> I just installed the new ubuntu, but for some reason I can't see my local network..
[20:23] <histo> kirandeo: did the upgrade online fail then when you stopped it? It would have reverted to the old version depending on its progress.
[20:23] <Gantis>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log (not Corg, oops)
[20:23] <pisiq> histo, how can i make usable partitions without any mount point ?
[20:23] <histo> pisiq: you can do it after the install is completed
[20:24] <pisiq> ok, how i got 3 partitions that i need to use
[20:24] <histo> pisiq: especially if they aren't essential to system boot
[20:24] <pisiq> they are set as "do not use"
[20:24] <iceroot> histo: no smtp-server installed by default
[20:24] <pisiq> i can mount those but i dont have the permision to write
[20:24] <histo> pisiq: then they won't be used. I'm confused by what you are trying to do?
[20:25] <kirandeo> histo: it downloaded almost 324 packages of some 1500 and i closed... but still previous version  is working
[20:25] <epinky> Peon: you can ping them?
[20:25] <histo> !fstab > pisiq
[20:25] <histo> kirandeo: yeah just put in the cd and it will upgrade from there instead.
[20:25] <kirandeo> histo: thanks
[20:26] <kirandeo> cheers ubuntu
[20:26] <histo> kirandeo: assuming its not a server install
[20:26] <epinky> !pm | Peon
[20:26] <histo> kirandeo: then you'd have to use apt-cdrom
[20:26] <kirandeo> histo : no
[20:26] <Six_String_sense> Can anyone help me with .Bin file?
[20:27] <histo> kirandeo: you should be fine then.
[20:27] <kirandeo> histo :  ya thanks a lot
[20:27] <histo> Six_String_sense: whats the problem?
[20:27] <Peon> all the other computers can see each other, Just not this one..
[20:28] <Six_String_sense> i cant run the executable in it, i tried several instructions on net, i got to the point where i used chmod *file* in the terminal but it says that there is no such file..
[20:28] <epinky> Peon: define "see"
[20:28] <Cale> Six_String_sense: If you're not sure what you're supposed to do with it,  file foo.bin  might give some clue
[20:28] <Bonz> Peon: paint it in flourescent colours to aid visibility then
[20:28] <Cale> Six_String_sense: (it tries to determine something about the file from its contents)
[20:28] <Six_String_sense> i saw the contents, there was an executable file..
[20:29] <Six_String_sense> is there anyway i can install GUI version of poweriso or similar on linux?
[20:29] <histo> Six_String_sense: like windows executable or what?
[20:29] <Cale> oh, perhaps you got the filename wrong on the commandline?
[20:29] <Cale> er
[20:29] <histo> Six_String_sense: nautilus has tis built in.
[20:29] <Six_String_sense> it linux version of Planeshift, i downloaded thi linux version at their si..
[20:29] <Peon> the other two computers have full access to each others shared files. but this system doesn't see the systems or the shared folders.
[20:29] <histo> Six_String_sense: so the bin is an iso type file like a bin/cue
[20:29] <Six_String_sense> yes
[20:30] <fiberfolly> I am really frustrated right now.  I'm seriously thinking aobut redoing my computer with a dual boot so I can access the few programs I actually like that are writting for windose
[20:30] <[zaf]-Coral> Which is more preferred :D ? Vim or Emacs
[20:30] <epinky> Peon: shared means Samba? smb?
[20:30] <Six_String_sense> histo: yes
[20:30] <Cale> er, no it isn't
[20:30] <Cale> It's a binary executable
[20:30] <Peon> one is ubuntu 9.4 the other is windows 7.. so, both.
[20:31] <histo> Cale: Six_String_sense thats what i'm confused of there are to types of .bin
[20:31] <bradland> [zaf]-Coral: If you're going to start a flame war, at least be original :-)
[20:31] <fiberfolly> Ubuntu is supposed to be linux for human beings, but you still have to know more than the average user to do everything that you want
[20:31] <Cale> Just to be safe, please do  file PlaneShift*.bin and tell us the result :)
[20:31] <epinky> Peon: "smbclient" is installed?
[20:31] <Mr_Eko> addrconf(netdev_up) wlan0: link is not ready - i see that thru dmesg, anyone can help?
[20:31] <bradland> fiberfolly: what if "everything you want" is confined to browsing the web, editing some documents, and sending/receiving email?
[20:31] <[zaf]-Coral> bradland, ha ha.. I was curious
[20:31] <Six_String_sense> how can i be sure what type is it?
[20:31] <Cale> Six_String_sense: the command I just told you
[20:31] <histo> lol
[20:32] <fiberfolly> bradland: you can do that easily with ubuntu
[20:32] <Cale> Six_String_sense: the 'file' command determines the types of files
[20:32] <bradland> fiberfolly: that's kind of my point.
[20:32] <Cale> Six_String_sense: "file PlaneShift*.bin"  should tell you what sort of file it is
[20:32] <bradland> fiberfolly: you said "but you still have to know more than the average user to do everything that you want"
[20:32] <Six_String_sense> yes, and i did that file *path* and it showed the executabl. i'll check again and paste it here..
[20:32] <Peon> I don't know. what would the smbclient be listed under?
[20:32] <fiberfolly> but I need to be able to do my banking on line
[20:32] <fiberfolly> can't find a program that is easy to use
[20:32] <fiberfolly> that will read my downloads from my bank
[20:33] <bradland> fiberfolly: mint.com
[20:33] <histo> Six_String_sense: ./<file name>.bin
[20:33] <fiberfolly> I need to be able to LISTEN to musci
[20:33] <fiberfolly> music
[20:33] <gharz> guys, how do i open port 29521 to accept incoming connections for bittorrent?
[20:33] <fiberfolly> so far cannot listen to a CD
[20:33] <epinky> Peon: use Synaptic Package Manager, search for smbclient, install if it is not
[20:33] <fiberfolly> can make an image of it
[20:33] <histo> fiberfolly: what?
[20:33] <gharz> !iptable
[20:33] <histo> fiberfolly: what types of files is your bank giving?>
[20:33] <eddym> hey guys need to get my external mix working on skype bcuz the internal is low external is usb
[20:33] <llutz> gharz> iptables
[20:34] <Six_String_sense> /home/guitar-maniac/Työpöytä/PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, stripped
[20:34] <Peon> I don't see it as an option to install, but I don't see it installed..
[20:34] <Six_String_sense> thats what it said..
[20:34] <comutamike> Hi - I've done a dist upgrade through the upgrade option from Jackelope to 9.10 - seem to have problems with the nvidia drivers - anyone got any ideas?
[20:34] <Cale> fiberfolly: Things have been getting really crap with respect to audio in the last few versions of ubuntu. If it's anything before Karmic, I would recommend just uninstalling the pulseaudio package. That tends to clear up a lot of problems. Unfortunately in Karmic, they've made all sorts of other audio stuff depend more directly on pulseaudio without providing suitable fallbacks.
[20:34] <gharz> anyone can help what's the command line or other procedures in opening port 29521 to accept incoming connection for bittorrent?
[20:34] <histo> comutamike: you might have to eloborate on "problems"
[20:35] <Bonz> comutamike: rollback to the working version
[20:35] <fiberfolly> histo i have choices.  the usual that qucken and money can read as well as cvs for spread sheets
[20:35] <mbeierl> comutamike: what kind of problems?  Either way here's an idea: hold down shift during BIOS screen to get to grub...
[20:35] <Cale> Six_String_sense: okay, so   chmod +x /home/guitar-maniac/Työpöytä/PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[20:35] <gharz> llutz: i've heard about iptables but i can't seem to find the way on how to open it
[20:35] <epinky> Peon: is it there(on synaptic) with a green box with a yellow star on the corner?
[20:35] <gharz> :(
[20:35] <histo> fiberfolly: well cvs would be the way to go.
[20:35] <comutamike> by problems - the gnome x windows system starts but i just get a black screen
[20:35] <mbeierl> comutamike: choose rescue mode from the list and then "go to a shell with networking"
[20:35] <llutz> gharz> "man iptables"
[20:35] <kirandeo> histo: sry to disturb u again... do i need to run apt-cdrom like command ... if yes plz specify it completely
[20:35] <histo> fiberfolly: just use openoffice to view those. or if youc an do a pdf you can also view those.
[20:36] <comutamike> if i try to start x using startx it complains that the nvidia drivers aren't preset
[20:36] <histo> fiberfolly: i'm sure there are sollutions to view quicken files also.
[20:36] <mbeierl> mbeierl: and then issue "aptitude reinstall nvidia-185-kernel-source" and see if that helps
[20:36] <mbeierl> comutamike: and then issue "aptitude reinstall nvidia-185-kernel-source" and see if that helps
[20:36] <Six_String_sense> it just bounces back to guitar-maniac@guitar-maniac-desktop..
[20:36] <histo> kirandeo: No put the 9.04 cd in and it will pop up a window asking if you want to upgrade to that version.
[20:36] <comutamike> mbeierl: i'll try that now
[20:36] <Peon> Ahhh.. my mistake, I was using ubuntu software center.
[20:36] <Cale> Six_String_sense: yeah, but if there was no error, then the file would have been set executable
[20:37] <mbeierl> comutamike: all the best - see you in a few minutes hopefully !
[20:37] <Six_String_sense> oh ok
[20:37] <epinky> :)
[20:37] <Cale> Six_String_sense: the chmod command only prints stuff if there was a problem
[20:37] <fiberfolly> bradland:  mint looks like it is all online
[20:37] <Six_String_sense> there was no error yes. so whatdo i do now?
[20:37] <bradland> fiberfolly: it is, and it's the best personal finance software made ;)
[20:37] <Six_String_sense> ok :) got that :) how can i install that then?
[20:37] <Cale> Six_String_sense: now just:  /home/guitar-maniac/Työpöytä/PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[20:37] <Six_String_sense> ok
[20:37] <Peon> Its got a green box stating its installed.. I guess..
[20:37] <kirandeo> histo: but it doesnt ...
[20:37] <fiberfolly> bradland, don't feel safe giving a third party access to my account info
[20:38] <histo> kirandeo: can you view the contents of the cd.
[20:38] <Cale> Six_String_sense: by the way, it'd have been less typing if you had done  "cd /home/guitar-maniac/Työpöytä/" first :)
[20:38] <kirandeo> ya
[20:38] <histo> kirandeo: hold up
[20:38] <ryry> coucou
[20:38] <bradland> fiberfolly: too late. if you're doing online banking, you can be virtually guaranteed that "third-parties" have access to your account info
[20:38] <ryry> a vous tous
[20:38] <fearful> I kind of messed up my external device by unmounting it on properly and now I have the folder in my /media but the fstab or mtad don't coincide with it any help?
[20:38] <qos> hey guys. i guess you all aware of this nasty flash bug. i know how to fix it manually, but i prefer to wait for fixed packages. but they are still not released. why does this take so much time?
[20:38] <Cale> bradland: huh?
[20:38] <epinky> Peon: ok, open a terminal and post results of "smbtree" command, use pastebin
[20:38] <bradland> Cale: huh, what?
[20:38] <fearful> Also says I can't mount it or unmount it
[20:38] <porter1> qos, what's broken?
[20:38] <fiberfolly> cale:  Pulseaudio not installed
[20:39] <Six_String_sense> seems like it worked :) thank you :)
[20:39] <Cale> bradland: Typically online banking uses encrypted connections.
[20:39] <histo> kirandeo: open a terminal
[20:39] <Cale> Six_String_sense: no problem
[20:39] <kirandeo> histo:ok
[20:39] <fiberfolly> bradland:  How so?
[20:39] <histo> kirandeo: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[20:39] <histo> kirandeo: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[20:39] <comutamike> mbeierl: just a quick question - I seem to be having a problem establishing a Wifi Link using the command prompt with networking...
[20:39] <mbeierl> Dangit!  I just lost the ability to click with mouse AGAIN in Karmic.  Anyone know of a fix to this?
[20:39] <acovrig> eggdrop doesn't show up in channel
[20:39] <fearful> I kind of messed up my external device by unmounting it on properly and now I have the folder in my /media but the fstab or mtad don't coincide with it any help? and now I can't mount or unmount my device
[20:39] <kirandeo> histo:ok
[20:39] <mbeierl> comutamike: ah.  of course... you don't have a wired connection you can use?
[20:40] <ryry> qui de france
[20:40] <qos> porter1, e.g. you can'tleft click within flash or totem crashes when using subtitles
[20:40] <histo> fearful: sudo umount /media/whatever
[20:40] <Pici> !fr | ryry
[20:40] <asraniel> hi there. i can't find the package i can report a bug against for openoffice in karmic. i have a odt file that makes openoffice crash all the time and would like to submit it as a bug
[20:40] <fearful> histo, I done this already fail
[20:40] <porter1> qos, those are the same issues?
[20:40] <Cale> fiberfolly: hmm, have you tried audacious for listening to CDs?
[20:40] <ryry> OUI FR
[20:40] <histo> fearful: it fails how?
[20:40] <Peon> http://www.pastebin.ca/1673929
[20:41] <acovrig> eggdrop doesn't show up in channel
[20:41] <fearful> histo, there it says its not mounted
[20:41] <comutamike> mbeierl: i think i can connect using the iwconfig app..
[20:41] <alpha_> before upgrading to 9.10 I had the option to right click on a folder and to encrypt it (using my pgp-key). I can not recall if I had installed an extra program for this or if it was built in. But this option is not shown anymore, can anyone help me out here?
[20:41] <Cale> fiberfolly: I should probably try it. I haven't put a music CD in my computer for a long time, since I usually just listen to ogg and mp3 files :)
[20:41] <mbeierl> comutamike: I have to sign off for a moment... brb...
[20:41] <bradland> fiberfolly: Cale: My point is that your bank isn't the only one involved in electronic transactions for your account. If you chose not to use Mint.com on the basis that they have access to you bank account, then you ought to re-evaluate using electonic banking at all. Many banks don't even handle their own authentication; they outsource it to the same firms that Mint.com uses.
[20:41] <Peon> so it sees putt putt.. but it doesn't.. Weird..
[20:41] <fearful> histo, now it won't even show up anywhere
[20:41] <porter1> qos, the left-click problem in flash I believe has to do with nspluginwrapper, but I'm not sure...
[20:41] <fiberfolly> cale:  Not yet.  I was trying to use rhythmbox, because I have an Ipod and understood that it would work with this
[20:41] <epinky> Peon: then it's there, you can see them
[20:41] <MrMist> fx3: still there? Just took something to eat..
[20:41] <fiberfolly> but can't even import a new cd I have
[20:42] <kirandeo> histo:it says sh: Can't open /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[20:42] <histo> fearful: its now unmounted
[20:42] <histo> kirandeo: ughh
[20:42] <qos> porter1, no. these are 2 different. and i know how to fix them. the fixes were discussed in the bugreports on launchpad. BUT i prefer to wait for offical packages. SO... why aren't the packages updated yet?
[20:42] <histo> kirandeo: where did you get this cd?
[20:42] <fx3> MrMist, yea im here, did you look at that thread?
[20:42] <fiberfolly> bradland:  do you have a link fo rmore info on mint.com?
[20:42] <Peon> Oh man.. I'm an idiot.. How do I change a computers name.. I just realized I have two girlfriends..
[20:42] <kirandeo> free request
[20:42] <fearful> histo, I suspected so, but I plug in and doesn't work
[20:43] <MrMist> fx3: Mm... So you mean I should manually change grub.cfg ?
[20:43] <mbeierl> comutamike: back.  Sorry I'm not very good it joining wifi from rescue shell.  Anyone else here?
[20:43] <bradland> fiberfolly: not handy, but before i decided to use them, i looked in to how they handle authentication, where my credentials were stored, and what type of access they had.
[20:43] <epinky> Peon: lol, plz use my nick on your messages
[20:43] <kirandeo> histo: free requst service..
[20:43] <histo> fearful: so now its not mounting.
[20:43] <bradland> fiberfolly: they outsource the authentication to another company that does pretty much just that: secure banking authentication
[20:43] <Six_String_sense> One more prob.. :d it installed it and created the folder but.. nothings there. i nacigated from the terminal and its empty..
[20:44] <fearful> negative and on a windows machine it works fine, histo
[20:44] <fx3> MrMist, probably yea
[20:44] <fiberfolly> ty bradland
[20:44] <Peon> epinky sorry, still new to IRC..
[20:44] <bradland> fiberfolly: your credentials aren't actually stored. just like ssh-keypairs, the authentication provider receives a key that is used to retrieve your account details. this key is revokable by your bank
[20:44] <foo> The program beep stopped working on my system. Any tips on making it work? It broke from upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10
[20:44] <histo> kirandeo: hodl up
[20:44] <bradland> fiberfolly: also, the information is read-only, so you can't issue payments, but you're also protected from fraud
[20:44] <bradland> fiberfolly: np, and sry for off-topic to the rest of you :)
[20:44] <histo> kirandeo: do you see the contents of the cd if you do ls /cdrom
[20:44] <epinky> Peon: you want to do what ? about your girlfriends? I didn't understand
[20:45] <Peon> epinky: I don't see any of the files that putt putt is offering though..
[20:45] <fiberfolly> no about audio issues; I ma using Jaunty, my sound is barely audible except through firefox.  I can listen to the radio through firefox.  Cannot import a CD through rhytmbox or whatever it is called
[20:45] <kirandeo> histo:ok i try tht
[20:45] <MrMist> fx3: http://pastebin.com/f195bdb07
[20:46] <epinky> Peon: putt putt is what? Win, Linux, BSD,...?
[20:46] <kirandeo> histo: yes
[20:46] <Peon> epinky: my old server 'girlfriend' is being replaced by my new server.. Also called 'Girlfriend'
[20:46] <fearful> histo, strange huh doesn't recognize any other usb thumb drive either
[20:46] <histo> kirandeo: do you see cdromupgrade in there?
[20:46] <Peon> epinky: putt putt is a windows 7
[20:46] <MrMist> fx3: If you take a look, you see that there's actually two entries in the file, however just one shows up in the menu. Don't understand why
[20:46] <kirandeo> histo:no
[20:47] <Cale> bradland: It seems unlikely that my bank would outsource authentication to a US company... but to be honest, I'm not sure exactly how they're doing it.
[20:47] <epinky> Peon: putt putt is sharing something?
[20:47] <bradland> Cale: I can't speak for outside the US because i've only ever used US banking, but i do know that outsourcing security to specialized firms is growing because of the attention required to maintain security in today's hostile environment
[20:47] <histo> kirandeo: hrm.. hold on
[20:48] <bradland> Cale: i would still stand behind my assertion that anyone so concerned about security that they wouldn't use mint.com ought to re-consider any type of online banking.
[20:48] <Peon> epinky: how do I change the old servers name? that would fix one problem.. I think putt putts problem is the shared drive is removed currently..
[20:48] <Arsin> Is there anyway to make Ubuntu run on a 'low' power setting
[20:49] <sqemishozifrage> Running gdb reports a problem in ../sysdeps/i386/memset.c but I can't find that file on the filesystem, does anyone know where I can view it?
[20:49] <kirandeo> histo :see this             kiran@kiran-desktop:~$ ls /cdrom
[20:49] <kirandeo> autorun.inf  dists    isolinux    pics  preseed             ubuntu
[20:49] <kirandeo> casper       install  md5sum.txt  pool  README.diskdefines  wubi.exe
[20:49] <fearful> histo, you bumped?
[20:49] <buttons840> I'm "spoofing" emails from my gmail account to my gmail account.  (as in, one email, just testing smtp headers in python) there is nothing illegal about this?
[20:50] <epinky> Peon: check this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/change-your-computer-name-in-windows-vista/
[20:50] <histo> kirandeo: ahh I see this is a dekstop cd. you can only upgrade from cd with the alternate install cd.
[20:50] <histo> kirandeo: unless there is a way via apt-cdrom that i'm not seeing.
[20:50] <kirandeo> histo:ok
[20:51] <Arsin> I'm getting this error http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d16eeb5b2 while trying to mount my XP Partition
[20:51] <histo> fearful: no i'm here.  do you see the other usb devices being detected with dmesg.
[20:51] <Hatl> hi! is it possible to change the initial view of aptitude to "New Flat Package List"?
[20:52] <fearful> histo, do you mind if I paste output I'll plug in two devices ?
[20:52] <Peon> epinky: Thanks, but I need to change the ubuntu 9.04 one..
[20:52] <kirandeo> histo : then i cannot do this thru CD?
[20:52] <mbeierl> Arsin: is the disk part of a Windows volume set?
[20:53] <Arsin> mbeierl: Volume set?
[20:53] <fiberfolly> has anyone here managed to get any windose applications to work through Wine, and if so, can you PM me about it please?
[20:53] <mbeierl> Arsin: Windows can use two disks or partitions and make them into one logical drive letter.  So two disks are seen as one C: drive
[20:53] <epinky> Peon: http://www.rebelzero.com/fixes/changing-your-computers-hostname/60
[20:53] <histo> kirandeo: I can't see a way unless someone else here knows.
[20:53] <mbeierl> Arsin: that /could/ be the cause of the message you are seeing...
[20:54] <kirandeo> histo: ok
[20:54] <cirkit> New 'gdmsetup' in 9.10 doesn't allow you to select your GDM login screen theme. Is there any new way to do this aside from editing the jpg file in /usr/share/images/xslash/ ?
[20:54] <histo> fearful: you can't paste in channel. You can to pastebin
[20:54] <histo> fearful: is it detecting them though?
[20:54] <histo> fearful: also a restart may solve all your issues.
[20:54] <ghostbyte>  Anyway to announce ip address in Ubuntu? My switches are caching the information. When I add a new IP with FreeBSD the switches see the change right away but not with ubuntu.
[20:54] <Arsin> mbeierl: How would I fix this, I can't boot into XP
[20:54] <fearful> histo, well its a pretty long output and don't know what I'm looking for exactly so far I don't thinkso
[20:54] <fearful> I'll try that
[20:54] <comutamike> mbeierl: I've found some docs - I'll plow through those - but thanks for the info about the nvidia drivers... I tried apt-get install nvidia (hoping it would list things like nvidia) but nothing was happening.
[20:55] <histo> fearful: although i'm sure it can be fixed without restarting.
[20:55] <comutamike> mbeierl: thanks dude..
[20:55] <fearful> http://paste.ubuntu.com/320286/ histo
[20:55] <histo> fearful: dmesg -c will clear the dmesg
[20:55] <histo> fearful: then you can try plugging in a device and seeing if dmesg changed
[20:55] <mbeierl> comutamike: it would be just a simple re-install of nvidia-185-source and you might just be able to do that without networking as it could still be in the cache
[20:55] <krainbolt> Anyone have any experience on switching from Apache to YAWS (On ubuntu server)?
[20:56] <youngblood> I'm using ubuntu 9.04. I have read different install instruction on skype, but not sure how I should install it. Do i use Synaptic or go to skype web sit?
[20:56] <histo> fearful: i'll be afk for a bit.
[20:56] <kermit> so, i upgraded to karmic, and now i have no sound
[20:56] <Peon> epinky: Thanks, that should solve it..
[20:56] <mbeierl> Arsin: oh - sorry I did not know you could not boot into that partition at all.  I think it might actually be as Linux described it: failed to read...  The disk might be bad
[20:57] <mbeierl> Arsin: did this just start one day?  or is this the result of a drive re-size attempt?
[20:57] <youngblood> Should skype be in the repository of ubuntu 9.04.
[20:57] <Goksu> hello, anybody around who can help me with iptables? I have some entries in iptables -L that I dont know how they came.
[20:57] <mbeierl> youngblood: skype is in the medibuntu repos, not the regular ones
[20:57] <fiberfolly> when I try to access a cd from my cd/dvd drive i get this message: Failed to execute child process "sound-juicer" (No such file or directory)
[20:58] <Arsin> mbeierl: Re-size, installing Ubuntu on a windows drive, made a partiton and it died
[20:58] <youngblood> mbeierl, how do access the medibuntu?
[20:59] <mbeierl> Arsin: ok.  so what we have here is a boo boo in resize.  The meaningful part of the error message is "partition is smaller than NTFS".  The partition was resized, but the NTFS file system did not get updated
[20:59] <oCean_> Goksu: probably because your ufw firewall service is running?
[20:59] <mbeierl> youngblood: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu gives info...
[21:00] <Arsin> mbeierl: Updated? Wasn't told that the sector was not NTFS anymore?
[21:00] <youngblood> mbeierl, thanks
[21:00] <Goksu> ocean: let me check.
[21:00] <mbeierl> Arsin: um... think of it this way: the house is smaller but the room inside thinks it's bigger than the house
[21:00] <smeags> is there a way to change the application icons in netbook remix
[21:00] <dAnon1> 64bit Ubuntu 9.10 with ext4 is so bloody fast <3
[21:00] <mbeierl> Arsin: the partition was resized to be smalled, but the filesystem resize operation failed
[21:01] <fiberfolly> no help for my audio issues?  I just tried audacious and it did not work either
[21:01] <Arsin> mbeierl: Ok cool, how would I go about doing this?
[21:01] <fiberfolly> and yet I can write and image file, so my drive is working
[21:01] <LeeJunFan> Is there a way to get the WPA passphrase from nm-applet in a human readable form and not the 128char mess it shows when I click show passphrase?
[21:01] <robert__> hi
[21:01] <_Hammer_> dAnon1 - what video card are you running?
[21:01] <mbeierl> Arsin: I'm not an expert in this area, but I do believe it is possible to get the partition (the house) size back to be bigger than the file system (the room) without destroying any data
[21:01] <brendan`> anyone have suggestions for apps like compiz to be used?
[21:02] <brendan`> i already have compiz installed, but looking for other cool desktop things
[21:02] <dAnon1> 7800GT :) _Hammer_ thinking about 4850 but I dunno if ATI is gonna be good under Ubuntu?
[21:02] <Goksu> oCean: according to gufw, it is not running /not enabled. I had gufw installed after I found stuff in the iptables I have not put knowingly.
[21:02] <mbeierl> anyone here familiar enough with gparted or parted to help out with recovering from a partition resize failure, please?
[21:02] <Peon> epinky: Yay, that fixed it.. and I can see putt putt now too..
[21:02] <kirandeo> can i directly upgrade directly from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.10?
[21:02] <Arsin> mbeierl: Thanks anyways, helped me understand what is going on
[21:03] <dAnon1> _Hammer_ still GF 7800GT aint bad card
[21:03] <Goksu> oCean_: according to gufw, it is not running /not enabled. I had gufw installed after I found stuff in the iptables I have not put knowingly.
[21:03] <epinky> Peon: great! glad you've solved it:)
[21:03] <trism> kirandeo: no, you would need to upgrade to 9.04 and then from there to 9.10, clean installing would probably be easier
[21:03] <cirkit> New 'gdmsetup' in 9.10 doesn't allow you to select your GDM login screen theme. Is there any new way to do this aside from editing the jpg file in /usr/share/images/xslash/ ?
[21:03] <mbeierl> Arsin: you will need a "live cd" of some sort to boot so that you can modify the filesystem without having to run on it.  Something like Ubuntu Live CD or gparted Live CD.  are you familiar with them?
[21:03] <kirandeo> trism: thanks
[21:04] <rooist47> hello there
[21:04] <Peon> epinky: now how are you with raids? Heheh.. the reason for the new server is to move the raid to a faster computer..
[21:04] <Arsin> mbeierl: I'm on Ubuntu on my computer, I just plugged his hard drive into my computer, so right now the drive is just idleing
[21:04] <trism> cirkit: you can change a few things with gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties; you'll need to restart gdm before you can see your changes
[21:05] <taub> hello, my wlan card has "power managment: off" in iwconfig, when i try  "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power on" i get " SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported."
[21:05] <alpha_> what program should be used to encrypt a folder into a "file"  which I then can move around (so I do not want to make a directory or a partition encrypted)?
[21:05] <taub> i'm using a thinkpad notebook with the livecd
[21:05] <mbeierl> Arsin: ok, that explains the /dev/sdc from your pastebin.  just for a test: what's the output of "sfdisk -l /dev/sdc" (list partition tables) (probably needs to be run as sudo)
[21:06] <rooist47> why I can't activate my wifi driver on ubuntu karmic, it is listed in the proprietary driver list but won't active
[21:07] <Arsin> mbeierl: http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d41554a73
[21:07] <cirkit> trism: ah, great, Thank you!
[21:07] <rooist47> please help my fixing  that  wifi problem
[21:07] <rooist47> !!
[21:08] <Evra> hello
[21:08] <guitarman814> is anyone available to help me try and figure out / fix my sound problem
[21:08] <greezmunkey> hehe VirtualBox rocks!
[21:09] <mbeierl> Arsin: ok, here is where I stop.  I am concerned that there are actual partitions defined after the NTFS partition.  To your knowledge, were they formatted or just defined
[21:09] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: oh yea!
[21:09] <JohnCDI> is there a tool i can use in ubuntu to put ubcd on a flash drive ive tried usb-creator which wont work for some reason
[21:09] <rooist47> I have Lenovo G530 and the wifi don't work because I can't activate the proprietary driver listed on ! can you help me please ?
[21:09] <greezmunkey> Scuzini, I think I'm going to try a ubuntu install over an XP install withing a VM, and see what happens...!
[21:10] <Rods_Tiger> In Ubuntu in "Empathy", what sort of account details do I enter on that computer to get it to appear on my Bonjour list?
[21:10] <astrobob> hello guys
[21:11] <astrobob> i am running on 3 OS
[21:11] <astrobob> a Ubuntu, WinXp & a fedora that i dont use much
[21:11] <guitarman814> is anyone available to help me try and figure out / fix my sound problem
[21:11] <astrobob> my winxp partitions are nearly full & i need more space
[21:12] <astrobob> is it possible to take the Fedora part & extend the Win part ?
[21:12] <Evra> hello
[21:12] <Evra> I am evra
[21:12] <erUSUL> !hi
[21:12] <TheVenerableZ> hey, is there any way to launch Firefox in full screen mode from the command line?
[21:13] <Evra> hello
[21:13] <guntbert> astrobob: but that is not really an ubuntu question - is it?
[21:13] <netbook>      /window close
[21:13] <guitarman814> is anyone available to help me try and figure out / fix my sound problem
[21:13] <astrobob> well not really but Ubuntu being my main OS
[21:13] <[> heh
[21:14] <xim_> what does it mean when ubuntu keeps trying to goto screensaver when im watching a fullscreen video in vlc?
[21:14] <^icy-ice^> have you ever heard of so badly fucked up software as ubuntu?
[21:14] <johan_> rver irc.freequest.net
[21:14] <thiebaude> xim_, your screensaver is set to come on in 5 min
[21:14] <bradland> ^icy-ice^: i hear there's a company out of redmond that is trying to keep up
[21:14] <guntbert> !language | ^icy-ice^
[21:15] <^icy-ice^> bradland: haha, that was a good one. Thanks!
[21:15] <bradland> :)
[21:15] <thiebaude> xim_, check your settings in screensaver
[21:15] <_Hammer_> bradland ROFL haha
[21:15] <thomatwork> I'm trying to edit my /etc/gdm/Init/Default file after upgrading to 9.10 - even using sudo and vim from command line - I can't seem to write any file to the /Init directory - this sorta makes sense to me - but I can't figure out how to add the config parameters I need to add back to the Default file... any suggestions
[21:15] <xim_> thiebaude, before i had karmic regardless of my screensaver settings it would prevent it from starting if a video was fullscreen (or maybe playing at all)
[21:16] <thiebaude> xim_, you watching flash video?
[21:16] <d6chung> xim_: I think the media player is supposed to disable the screensaver. I use mplayer and it does this.
[21:16] <xim_> thiebaude, no vlc player
[21:16] <xim_> d6chung, hmm maybe thats the problem
[21:16] <thiebaude> xim_, ok i see
[21:16] <thiebaude> my bad
[21:16] <guitarman814> is anyone available to help me try and figure out / fix my sound problem
[21:17] <iceroot> !ask | guitarman814
[21:17] <xim_> d6chung, although im sure i was using vlc before, its the only one that works half the time and ive never had this problem (id remember because its frustrating)
[21:17] <d6chung> Yeah, I think I should try watching movies on 9.10 -- it's been a while, actually.
[21:17] <guitarman814> im having issues with my sound, aka i have no sound at all, ive gone through a few troubleshoots with no luck
[21:18] <luco> join #polska
[21:18] <thiebaude> d6chung, for me, movies run great on 9.10
[21:18] <luco> whoops ;)
[21:18] <Rods_Tiger> In Ubuntu in "Empathy", what sort of account details do I enter on that computer to get it to appear on my Bonjour list?
[21:18] <astrobob> any help in repartitioning without loosing data ?
[21:19] <puff> Hi, gotta mess here, caused by an overeager friend.  To make a long story short, we installed ubuntu server 9.10, then the gnome desktop stuff, then kde, then disabled kde and went back to using gnome, then upgraded to karmic, which broke xdmcp so downgraded gdm to 2.0, now apparently gdm and kdm are both trying to run and prventing xdmcp from working.
[21:19] <tandyman100> I have a BIG issue!
[21:19] <puff> So.... we kill the kdm process and restart gdm and xdmcp starts working again.
[21:19] <youngblood> I'm using ubuntu 9.04. I have install all Medibuntu repositories. When I search for Skype in synaptic , I still do not see it. I also ran update. Is there anything i missing?
[21:19] <puff> For now... Can we gracefully remove kde?
[21:20] <tandyman100> I have two HDDs, I installed WinXP onto the one the bios is set to boot from, and Ubuntu onto the other (after windows)
[21:20] <tandyman100> Ubuntu put it's bootloader onto my XP drive, and now I cant boot into XP!
[21:20] <tandyman100> How can I get BOOTMGR back?!?
[21:20] <TheVenerableZ> tandyman100: which version of ubuntu? (or, more importantly, grub)
[21:21] <ubuntu> well edit grub to have a line with windows boot
[21:21] <tandyman100> GRUB 1 with ubuntu 8.10
[21:21] <cow1> how do i make a folder writable, for the current user?
[21:21] <tandyman100> I added windows to GRUB, and it still won't boot, says not a valid executable
[21:21] <guitarman814> im having issues with my sound, aka i have no sound at all, ive gone through a few troubleshoots with no luck, can somebody help me?
[21:21] <d6chung> cow1: chmod u+w file
[21:21] <vtorri> hey
[21:21] <t7x> hey all
[21:22] <vtorri> i have a problem when compiling code with g++
[21:22] <d6chung> cow1: chmod -R u+w folder
[21:22] <mgv2> what can i do about empty windows on evolution??
[21:22] <t7x> whats going on with xchat why i dont see userlist ?
[21:22] <TheVenerableZ> tandyman100: put in an ubuntu live cd, pop open a terminal and type in "gedit /boot/menu/grub.lst"
[21:22] <vtorri> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.1/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `_Unwind_GetIPInfo@GCC_4.2.0'
[21:22] <tandyman100> Okay.
[21:22] <thomatwork> d6chung: would your advice to cow1 work on my /etc/gdm/Init/Default file?
[21:22] <vtorri> does someone know what the problem is ?
[21:22] <TheVenerableZ> tandyman100: see here for more info http://boff.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/editing-bootgrubmenulst-to-change-the-grub-boot-menu/
[21:22] <tandyman100> thevenerablez, I uncommented the win 98,200,etc Boot menu item, but it doesn't work!
[21:23] <cow1> i want to change my var/www folder to be writable so I can use with my netbeans IDE
[21:23] <d6chung> thomatwork: What are the permissions for that file?
[21:24] <d6chung> cow1: Writable for everyone?
[21:24] <cow1> no just me the User
[21:24] <crazy6> Is there Bonjour (apple printer discovery) support in Ubuntu? it is rolled into some other configuration or discovery service?
[21:24] <d6chung> cow1: Do you own var/www?
[21:24] <cow1> Yes
[21:24] <thomatwork> d6chung: rwxr-xr-x
[21:24] <cow1> but its writable for root only
[21:25] <craigbass1976> is using the synaptics package manager going to do a purge, or will I need to run that in cli ?
[21:25] <TheVenerableZ> tandyman100: can you pastebin that file?
[21:25] <TheVenerableZ> paste.ubuntu.com
[21:25] <djtoast> exit
[21:25] <d6chung> cow1: You sure you own it?
[21:26] <d6chung> thomatwork: Am I correct to assume that root owns that files?
[21:26] <d6chung> *file
[21:26] <guitarman814> I currently have no sound :(  trying to get audio via my digital out on my onboard soundcard, help please :)
[21:26] <cow1> what do you mean. its on my computer
[21:26] <kermit> why would the cpu temp applet dissapear in karmic?  i miss that.
[21:26] <thomatwork> d6chung: sorry - correct.
[21:26] <crazy6> oh, I just had to enable the setting "Show printers connected to other computers"
[21:26] <mbeierl> cow1: is this on a computer that is protected from the internet behind a firewall or is this a live HTTP server?
[21:26] <d6chung> cow1: But you need to "own" it. In an ls -l listing, you should see your username.
[21:27] <d6chung> thomatwork: Wait, and root can't write to the file with vim?
[21:27] <cow1> ok I tried "chmod -R u+w www" it says operation not permitted
[21:27] <d6chung> cow1: It doesn't look like you own it.
[21:27] <mbeierl> cow1: you need to do "sudo chmod"
[21:27] <TheVenerableZ> cow1: prepend "sudo"
[21:27] <TheVenerableZ> mbeierl: you beat me ;)
[21:27] <mbeierl> I try :)
[21:28] <cow1> this is just a local server not live. nothing important. thnks i will try sudo
[21:28] <Fenix|work> Greetings and salutations.
[21:28] <Fenix|work> does /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf get overwritten with updates, or is this file pretty much static?
[21:28] <cow1> am I suppose to replace u with my name?
[21:28] <d6chung> cow1: No.
[21:29] <thomatwork> d6chung, I was using sudo incorrectly - I was doing it wrong :(
[21:29] <thomatwork> fixed
[21:29] <cow1> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root it doesnt change it
[21:29] <thomatwork> thanks folks
[21:29] <thedead91> guys can you explain me how to modify the number of the terminal's rows on ubuntu 9.10?
[21:29] <d6chung> cow1: But if the folder is owned by root, making that user-writable will do nothing for you.
[21:29] <d6chung> cow1: It _is_ owned by root!
[21:30] <d6chung> cow1: You need to either make that writable by group/everyone or make yourself own it.
[21:30] <klaxian> any ideas why "events/0" is using 15% CPU all the time?
[21:30] <cow1> how?
[21:30] <klaxian> since it's nice -5, it's causing slowdowns
[21:30] <nerdy_kid_> help!!! i can only use my wireless card from kernel 2.6.28-11!!! (2.6.28-13 being latest) this is a long story..please help
[21:30] <d6chung> cow1: What do you want to do? Make a group, let everyone write to it, or own it?
[21:30] <cow1> own it
[21:31] <d6chung> cow1: sudo chown username:username var/www
[21:31] <kermit> how do i downgrade a package?
[21:31] <cow1> and how do i make for everyone to write to it?
[21:31] <d6chung> cow1: sudo chown -R username var/www <-- Actually that.
[21:31] <d6chung> cow1: sudo chmod o+w var/www
[21:32] <d6chung> "O" being "others".
[21:32] <cow1> when you say everyone, its only people on this computer right?
[21:32] <d6chung> Yes.
[21:32] <d6chung> That is, other users on that machine.
[21:33] <rooist47> can you help me to fix that wifi problem [lenovo G530] it  won't let me active the proprietary driver for wifi
[21:33] <husimon> Hey can someone help me work out the new NetworkManager and setting the dhcp hostname to get pushed to the dns server?  I've tried setting /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf with set-hostname "blah"; but no avail... ideas?
[21:33] <guitarman814> I have no sound, cannot see my digital out in sound preferences, or in alsamixer, anyone know how to fix this
[21:34] <anathematic> does ubuntu server have any hardware testing software built in?
[21:34] <thomatwork> Wow - I wish I could just dump the IRC chat logs from this group into my brain. reading a book is one thing, seeing problems solved right before my eyes is incredibly educational.
[21:34] <anathematic> my ubuntu server keeps randomly locking up, I think it's hardware related
[21:35] <datacrusher> thomatwork, i agree. i learned much more on irc than in my private university
[21:36] <lee> thomatwork: just wait for the crapfloods and you'll regret that =)
[21:36] <Docteh> anathematic: i think software to test hardware lacks in linux :-/
[21:36] <datacrusher> like i say, "theory is different on real ambients"
[21:36] <anathematic> Docteh: you don't have any recommendations on what to do here do you?
[21:36] <anathematic> Docteh: it's randomly locked up 3 times now in the last 24 hours
[21:37] <anathematic> I have nfi
[21:37] <d6chung> anathematic: Doesn't your server have self-test software? I know that IBM servers have this.
[21:37] <Halitech> anathematic, have you tested the ram using the live cd?
[21:37] <santonic> hello guys. I have upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 on my laptop and since then something strange happens : if I boot with the computer plugged on electrical system, if I unplug in order to switch to battery, the computer just stops as if there were no battery. But if I boot on battery, I can plug and unplug with no problem. I didn't have that kind of problem with 9.04. any ideas ?
[21:37] <anathematic> d6chung:  it's a cheap pc in drag :-D
[21:37] <Docteh> anathematic: memtest and then have a ssh session open to "top" while it goes down
[21:37] <anathematic> Halitech:  no I haven't, I'll give that a go
[21:37] <cow1> d6chung: thanks it works now
[21:37] <Rods_Tiger> In Ubuntu in "Empathy", what sort of account details do I enter on that computer to get it to appear on my Bonjour list?
[21:37] <anathematic> Docteh: can I do the memtest without restarting the server?
[21:38] <anathematic> *without taking it down
[21:38] <Docteh> no the memtesters like to test all of the ram
[21:38] <lucaelle79> ciao
[21:38] <lucaelle79> !list
[21:39] <Docteh> haha xdcc bots for getting the isos would be funny
[21:39] <thomatwork> about to reboot after upgrading to 9.10 - been using since 8 - if Synergy loads before log in, I want to dance around and hug you all - thanks. later
[21:39] <guitarman814> I have no sound, cannot see my digital out in sound preferences, or in alsamixer, anyone know how to fix this
[21:40] <ellis> powernowd no work in ubuntu 9.10 with my Acer Aspire 4520, AMD64 Athlon X2, PLEASE HELP??????
[21:40] <d6chung> guitarman814: Has sound ever worked for you in previous releases or other ditros?
[21:41] <nerdy_kid_> does pidgin support voice chat at all?
[21:41] <guitarman814> d6chung, i had issues with it in 8.04 but got it working
[21:41] <guitarman814> hmmmm its working now >:(
[21:41] <guitarman814> if it stops ill stop by again :)
[21:41] <cow1> I love this room!
[21:41] <d6chung> guitarman814: Out of curiosity, what fixed it?
[21:42] <guitarman814> i switched it from analog surround to analog duplex in sound prefs
[21:42] <guitarman814> but that didnt work before
[21:42] <guitarman814> so i dont really know what fixed it lol
[21:42] <dajxd> i've got no flash drive and no optical drive on my laptop- any other methods that would make sense for me to install 9.10?
[21:43] <gandhi> dajxd, do a network install i guess
[21:43] <gandhi> i dunno how you can put anything on it though
[21:43] <Halitech> dajxd, unetbootin
[21:43] <dajxd> how can I do that from mac to pc?
[21:43] <Halitech> dajxd, pxe boot
[21:43] <juro> hi, I had to reinstall my complete Ubuntu after upgrading to 9.10. Now I cannot access my databases (Mysql) - I can see that there are tables (Show Tables) but when I do SELECT *, I get a "table does not exist" error - any ideas why?
[21:44] <dajxd> PXE looks like what I need, thanks!
[21:46] <vinnie_> i just installed ubuntu today, and when trying to look at my router settings from firefox, i have text that isnt being displayed. is there a fix for this. Heres a screenshot. http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7739/screenshothh.png
[21:46] <Supersaiyan_IV> "173.14.22 and 96.43.14 released with X.Org 7.5 (xserver 1.7) support." ← Nvidia has restored legacy drivers compatibility with recent kernels and xorg
[21:46] <kermit1> how do i stop networkmanager?  in jaunty i'd just kill it, but now it keeps restarting itself.
[21:47] <maynards-girl> how can i play a DVD in ubuntu 9.10?
[21:47] <yeshuah> I'm running a server with Ubuntu Intrepid - can someone help me with how I can update mod_wsgi to 2.6 without having to uprade to a new distro?
[21:47] <ganjanaut> Cale: I tried install "unifont", that seems to have worked
[21:47] <Halitech> !multimedia | maynards-girl
[21:47] <Halitech> !dvd | maynards-girl
[21:47] <maynards-girl> thank you halitech
[21:47] <Riotta> maynards-girl: try instlling vlc
[21:48] <maynards-girl> i have VLC everything is pxeled and garbly
[21:48] <TRTwiggy> Can someone tell me how to get a list of all attached devices using C or point me in the right direction?
[21:48] <Halitech> maynards-girl, will avi or other video files play correctly?
[21:49] <maynards-girl> thank you though, let me try those links and then reinstall VLC
[21:49] <TRTwiggy> I tried using libudev, but it doesn't give me what i need.
[21:49] <maynards-girl> halitech, i dont know
[21:49] <erUSUL> TRTwiggy: see how lshw does it. is open surce just fire up an editor and read
[21:49] <Halitech> TRTwiggy, what are you trying to find out?
[21:49] <TRTwiggy> I am writing a forensics program to wipe hdd and i need to get a list of all devices attached and put it in a gtk window to select
[21:50] <erUSUL> TRTwiggy: you can do it directly reading/parsing/making sense of the /sys/ filesystem
[21:50] <Halitech> TRTwiggy, fdisk -l won't work?
[21:50] <TRTwiggy> if i parse the /sys filesystem can i get info on the drives still
[21:50] <erUSUL> TRTwiggy: if you only need disks just do "ls /dev/disk/by-*/"
[21:51] <fiberfolly_> so what I needed was the sound juicer, which was not installed
[21:51] <ganjanaut> isn't it somewhere in /proc?
[21:51] <fiberfolly_> you could have saved me a half hour of my life
[21:51] <fiberfolly_> i am 52, I do not have so much time to waste on simple things
[21:51] <fiberfolly_> the reason most people do not use Ubuntu is because they need to do more than surf the web, check email, and write.
[21:51] <ganjanaut> and complain in irc
[21:52] <rootalkin> care ii din RO ?
[21:52] <coz_> fiberfolly_,  I use ubuntu all the time  along with opensolaris and stormOs
[21:52] <TRTwiggy> I have to be able to show info on the drive too like size and stuff and my friend wrote the code to wipe it using dd so i need the name to be like sda or sdb to use his writing code
[21:52] <Niklas> Hello, how to install Wine on Ubuntu 9.10?
[21:52] <fiberfolly_> no, we are supposed to be helpful when we can
[21:52] <Halitech> !wine | Niklas
[21:52] <fiberfolly_> and I intend to be when I learn enough to help
[21:52] <erUSUL> fiberfolly_: rhythmbox which is included by default can rip cd's you do not need to install anything
[21:52] <vick> Hello, i have ubuntu 9.12, i tried to play songs using rythmbox however it didn't play (it displayed a small red sign next to it) probably as in it cannot find a suitable driver. Strangely, i played a video with another application and it worked perfectly well...
[21:52] <vick> What could the problem be ? rythmbox pointed to wrong driver or so ?
[21:52] <fiberfolly_> erusul, rhythmbox could not see my CD
[21:53] <vick> Oh nice conversation about it already :D
[21:53] <gregL> TRTwiggy, try this sudo lshw -C disk
[21:53] <erUSUL> fiberfolly_: ok; that's a different problem :) glad you find a way to do what you wanted
[21:53] <Ricardo5> Hay alguien que me pueda ayudar con ubuntu 9.10 remix netbook
[21:53] <dAnon1> fiberfolly_ Amarok is the only right music player for any OS :P
[21:53] <erUSUL> !es | Ricardo5
[21:54] <flootenkerp> Anyone here play halo demo on their ubuntu 9.04 or know how to? If so, please help me
[21:54] <TRTwiggy> ok awesome that lshw has what i need i just need to put it in my code now thank you
[21:54] <gregL> TRTwiggy, ` no problem
[21:54] <maynards-girl> in those links, where is the info for restricted formats for 9.10 ?
[21:55] <Halitech> maynards-girl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[21:56] <airforce> anyone can help me get flash? already searched google
[21:56] <Halitech> !flash | airforce
[21:56] <maynards-girl> halitech, thanks but i couldnt find 9.10
[21:56] <fiberfolly_> erusul:  what would make rhythmbox not see my CD player?
[21:56] <airforce> nevermind guys ...i did myself but thanks
[21:56] <flootenkerp> !games
[21:57] <PrebenR> going to install Karmic, is the ext4 corruption problems fixed now or should I stick to ext3
[21:57] <flootenkerp> Anyone here play halo demo on their ubuntu 9.04 or know how to? If so, please help me
[21:57] <RanDom33> I am attempting to assemble some 32 bit assembly on my amd64 machine.. using "gcc -m32 ". Here is the pastebin for the output http://pastebin.com/d2e3da53
[21:57] <vick> What's a good mp3 player ?
[21:57] <leaf-sheep> !player | vick
[21:57] <vick> That works with ipod/iphone :D
[21:57] <criss> hi all i need some help please
[21:57] <erUSUL> fiberfolly_: really dunno... i use a specialized tool for ripping (grip)
[21:57] <Halitech> maynards-girl, probably hasn't been updated yet, use the 9.04 info
[21:58] <yast> ok
[21:58] <fiberfolly_> well at least i have minimal functionality now while I read my Ubuntu boook
[21:58] <fiberfolly_> tyvm erUSUL
[21:58] <yast> anyone knows about a problem in karmic related with libgtk-1.2 ?
[21:58] <erUSUL> fiberfolly_: no problem
[21:58] <maynards-girl> halitech, i did :/ says it's already installed
[21:58] <maynards-girl> i probably messed something else up
[21:58] <yast> cant install uplink bcuz of that.. I was reading something about any loki installer will give me this problem... how can I fix it?
[21:59] <erUSUL> RanDom33: gcc is a C compiler not an assembler ... use gas or nasm
[22:00] <Demo> what up ppl :) ?
[22:00] <RanDom33> erUSUL, thanks
[22:00] <Demo> Hey Guys does any body know how I can Remove KDE
[22:00] <Demo> ?
[22:01] <erUSUL> !puregnome | Demo
[22:01] <brodie> is there a simple way to add files and folders to the live cd user's desktop on a custom live cd?
[22:01] <erUSUL> !remaster
[22:01] <Halitech> maynards-girl, check for libdvdcss2
[22:01] <mathepic> I think there may be a fault in packaging, as I cannot get the documentation for Texinfo
[22:01] <mathepic> because it is in a package called texinfo-doc-nonfree
[22:01] <Demo> Thanx buddy
[22:01] <mathepic> even though the texinfo documentation is licensed as free
[22:01] <mathepic> as stated at http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Copying-Conditions.html#Copying-Conditions
[22:01] <mgv2> why does this happens in evolution? http://yfrog.com/7592079467p
[22:01] <maynards-girl> halitech, and how do i check for it?
[22:02] <Halitech> maynards-girl, use synaptic
[22:02] <Ricardo5> alguien sabe el porque al querer instalar ubuntu 9.10 netbook en una acer one d250 la instalacion se pone muy lenta y debo cancelar
[22:02] <criss> anyone wanna help me with setting up a full on linux network?
[22:02] <Halitech> maynards-girl, or check out medibuntu
[22:02] <erUSUL> mgv2: do not understand hebrew
[22:02] <noneNN> UNR doesnt have desktop-switcher?
[22:02] <erUSUL> !es | Ricardo5
[22:03] <llutz> criss: what do you plan to do?
[22:04] <noneNN> is there a channel dedicated to ubuntu netbook remix?
[22:04] <mathepic> if there is something in the texinfo-doc-nonfree that is nonfree, it should be seperated from the free texinfo documentation
[22:04] <erUSUL> mgv2: launch evolution from terminal like this « LC_ALL=C evolution » reproduce the error
[22:04] <mgv2> erUSUL, its easy to understand - the windows is empty
[22:04] <nunojpg> I'm installing server 9.10 on a 2TB array, and the partition editor doesn't go over 33%...
[22:04] <llutz> criss: keep it in the channel, no pm without asking before
[22:04] <erUSUL> mgv2: that's the main window ??
[22:05] <criss> my bad llutz...
[22:05] <criss> so hi ther basically its for a school environment.... +- 20 workstations all running ubuntu linux and a server which can handle logins etc and a proxy
[22:05] <xnockout_> i have problem with beryl. can anyone helpme?
[22:05] <mgv2> erUSUL, no - and about the launch - its now english but working - i dont want english
[22:05] <llutz> criss: sounds like terminal-server + squid
[22:06] <mgv2> erUSUL, what output do you look for?
[22:06] <criss> do i have to go with a terminal environment? what does a linux server side have to offer? im new to linux...
[22:06] <criss> yeah i was thinkin squid for proxy
[22:06] <erUSUL> mgv2: if it works with the default locale is a problem with the translation ... maybe reinstalling the language-packs helps
[22:06] <erUSUL> mgv2: if not you will have to report it as a bug
[22:07] <youngblood> I'm running ubuntu 9.04. I'm trying to add a third party repository. After I enter the APT line, I see no way to enter the line. The only option I have is to cancel it. How do i quit the screen and get the APT line accepted?
[22:07] <Ioneye> how i can see the main groups of a user without messing around with /etc/passwd ?
[22:07] <Halitech> youngblood, can you edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[22:07] <mgv2> erUSUL, lng packs helps? and how to reinstall? - i dont want to report it
[22:07] <erUSUL> Ioneye: run «id» on a terminal
[22:08] <youngblood> Halitech, yes.
[22:08] <Ioneye> thank you erUSUL
[22:08] <Halitech> youngblood, just edit it then
[22:08] <xnockout_> i have problem with beryl. can anyone help?
[22:08] <erUSUL> mgv2: use synaptic and reinstall the language-pack-il or whatever is called
[22:08] <mrbnet_> Is there a recommended setup for running XP in ubuntu so I can ditch my dual boot setup?
[22:08] <youngblood> Halitech, ok. thanks
[22:08] <Halitech> !beryl | xnockout_
[22:08] <erUSUL> !vbox | mrbnet_
[22:08] <erUSUL> !wine | mrbnet_
[22:09] <NetM> Hello. Do anyone knows any programm to broadcasting ? (shoutcast)
[22:09] <erUSUL> !info icecast
[22:09] <Halitech> NetM, icecast, darkcast
[22:09] <NetM> Halitech: something like SAM Broadcaster
[22:09] <NetM> :)
[22:09] <NetM> but i want it for linux
[22:09] <erUSUL> !info icecast2 > NetM
[22:10] <mgv2> erUSUL, i dont find it in there
[22:10] <mrbnet_> erUSUL: thx
[22:10] <thiebaude> NetM, would this do, http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
[22:10] <Halitech> NetM, I've been able to use the server of shoutcast with no issues, not sure on broadcasting
[22:10] <mgv2> erUSUL, we need to understand if others have it too
[22:10] <NetM> no ventrilo is like teamspeak :)
[22:11] <thiebaude> NetM, oh, ok
[22:11] <nic1> Just out of curiosity, what client are you using for the IRC?
[22:12] <goose> <--xchat
[22:12] <Ioneye> nic1, irssi xchat
[22:12] <lucasnngh> hey guys
[22:12] <nic1> Nice
[22:12] <erUSUL> mgv2: is language-pack-he
[22:12] <lucasnngh> ive pressed ctrl alt f2 by mistake then i fell into a terminal
[22:12] <lucasnngh> however my keymap got messed up
[22:13] <nic1> I think it's alt f9 to get out right?
[22:13] <lucasnngh> when i press "i', it shows me 5
[22:13] <Halitech> alt+f7
[22:13] <nic1> oh
[22:13] <goose> lucasnngh: you can restart gdm
[22:13] <Jamed> nic1: also irssi
[22:13] <goose> lucasnngh: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:13] <ubuntu> tes
[22:13] <lucasnngh> then, to press the correct letters, i gotta hold fn and push the button
[22:14] <Will_Stout> hey, anyone on here good with KDE?
[22:14] <lucasnngh> goose, ill try it
[22:14] <erUSUL> Will_Stout: #kubuntu
[22:14] <Will_Stout> ah, I've got a slight prob. fonts are too big, I can't read anything on the screen,
[22:14] <metalf8801> Does anyone know anything about WMS (warehouse management systems)? I would like to set up for a class I'm taking but I'm not sure if there is any free WMS  or a demo that I can set up myself I've taken a look at MyWMS but I'm not sure how to even install it
[22:14] <ChaoticXSinZ> Heyo
[22:15] <Halitech> xnockout_, keep it in the channel please and ask before sending a private message, thanks
[22:15] <thiebaude> NetM, you want to broadcast radio?
[22:15] <ChaoticXSinZ> How does Netbeans handle the PATH environment variable?
[22:15] <ChaoticXSinZ> Cause it seems to get it wrong.
[22:15] <Will_Stout> I take it no-one's got a fix?
[22:15] <NetM> thiebaude: yeap
[22:16] <thiebaude> NetM, you can ask this guy, http://www.justin.tv/mcintec
[22:16] <Hb_Kai> should downloading kubuntu-desktop remove the boot-loading screen and login screen?
[22:16] <Hb_Kai> change rather
[22:17] <Halitech> NetM, vlc can stream to shoutcast
[22:17] <maco> Hb_Kai: yeah, but if you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" you can choose gdm (gnome login screen) instead
[22:17] <maco> Hb_Kai: im not sure how to change the usplash theme thogh
[22:17] <Halitech> NetM, not sure how it would work if you wanted to do voice broadcast though
[22:17] <ghostbyte>  Anyway to announce ip alias in Ubuntu? My switches are caching the information. When I add a new alias with FreeBSD the switches see the change right away but not with ubuntu.
[22:18] <Hb_Kai> okay, thanks for that. i thought i had done something wrong but all i wanted was the kubuntu looks
[22:18] <rom1v> hi
[22:18] <IdleOne> !purekde | Hb_Kai if you want to have just kubuntu
[22:19] <rom1v> I would like to add a command in cron to execute every 30 minutes, but not at 1h 1h30 2h 2h30 but instead 1h12 1h42 2h12 2h42
[22:19] <rom1v> is it possible?
[22:19] <ardchoille> rom1v: yes
[22:20] <Hb_Kai> nah, i just wanted the desktop theme, not the whole OS
[22:20] <ardchoille> rom1v: 12,42 * * * * /path/command
[22:21] <ardchoille> rom1v: See my crontab tutorial: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/04/crontab-tutorial.html
[22:21] <lucasnngh> goose, the problem is still here
[22:22] <lucasnngh> its weird that when i logged through xterm, the problem was gone
[22:22] <rom1v> thank you
[22:22] <ardchoille> yw
[22:24] <perscitus> AMD64 installs can enable 32bit repos?
[22:24] <rom1v> where is the content of crontab -e stored?
[22:24] <rom1v> once closed?
[22:24] <rom1v> it isn't in /etc/crontab
[22:24] <Halitech> perscitus, not recommended
[22:25] <treeforms> Hello.  I am not able to reinstall 9.10 because the screen is just green and grey stripes and I am not able to type anything into anything even with alt-ctrl f1.
[22:25] <perscitus> Halitech.->  why
[22:25] <NManoogian> treeforms: have you considered going back to 9.04
[22:26] <Halitech> perscitus, can cause issues, plus there should be a 64bit version of pretty much every piece of software that is in the 32bit
[22:26] <youngblood> What are the pros and cons between skype and ekiga?
[22:26] <treeforms> nmanoogian: I have yes, but I was hoping to be able to goto kde4.33 I am on mandriva
[22:26] <perscitus> Halitech.->  im sure i can find some
[22:26] <Guest71801> I can't make ubuntu server installation USB. I did everything like shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuServerFlashDriveInstaller
[22:26] <kermit> why is my kernel inserting relatime on all my mounts?
[22:26] <Guest71801> update that stupid guide please it is incorrect
[22:26] <Halitech> perscitus, not saying there isn't any but the majority should be there
[22:27] <LinuxFreakD> I have UNR 9.10 on my eee pc and I can't find the option to close out of the clutter UI to the regular Ubuntu UI Desktop. Does anyone know how?
[22:27] <NManoogian> treeforms: ah, well, don't give up.
[22:27] <perscitus> Halitech.->  and the ones that arent?
[22:27] <Halitech> perscitus, your choice, build from scratch or use the 32bit version, just make sure you have all the required dependencies
[22:28] <perscitus> i guess ill stick to 32bit ubuntu then.
[22:28] <treeforms> nmanoogian: thanks!  I have heard this is an x or nvidia problem, and it seems like it would have been corrected by now, I never had problems with early versions
[22:28] <Halitech> perscitus, what is it that you think may not be available in the 64bit version?
[22:29] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, what are you trying to find for 64bit Ubuntu?
[22:29] <NManoogian> treeforms: I know the feeling. My WiFi adapter stopped working after the install of 9.10.
[22:29] <perscitus> LinuxFreakD.-> Wanna know if it's time to switch linux to amd64. Obviously, not time yet
[22:30] <IdleOne> perscitus: What made you decide it is not time?
[22:31] <Halitech> perscitus, I'm running 64bit debian and I have over 26,000 packages, how many do you have in 32bit ubuntu?
[22:31] <perscitus> IdleOne.->  ask Halitech
[22:31] <IdleOne> perscitus: quit trolling
[22:31] <burn3r> hi is this german? :)
[22:31] <dajxd> what're the most common compatibility with running 64bit ubuntu?
[22:31] <perscitus> IdleOne.->  dont be rude and violate CoC
[22:31] <dAnon1> how can I share my cd rom for a windows machine
[22:31] <treeforms> percitus: You would think 64bit would work by wouldn't you?  I would say may another distro...(can I say that)
[22:31] <erUSUL> dajxd: as of jaunty/karmic none (perhaps flash but it works fine for me)
[22:31] <burn3r> hi is this german? :)
[22:32] <IdleOne> perscitus: I wasn't and am not violating anything. you asked a question and refused to provide more info.
[22:32] <treeforms> burn3r: nein ich suche deutsch auch.
[22:32] <Mr_Eko> hi, need a little guidance with wireless on 9.10
[22:32] <erUSUL> !de | burn3r
[22:32] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, why don't you want to switch to 64?
[22:32] <dajxd> erUSUL thanks, flash is the only problem I had last year trying to run it
[22:32] <perscitus> Halitech.-> Does am64 run any 32bit program flawless?
[22:32] <erUSUL> dajxd: as i said worked fine for me since i switched in intrepid to 64 bits.
[22:32] <freaky[t]> what's a good microblogging client for ubuntu?
[22:32] <IdleOne> perscitus: is there any OS that runs ALL apps flawlessly?
[22:33] <Halitech> perscitus, no because it wasn't designed to run 32bit apps so apps are compiled to run in 64bit
[22:33] <perscitus> freaky[t].->  try Adobe Air apps.
[22:33] <ChogyDan> freaky[t]: I believe gwibber is _a_ microblogger
[22:33] <freaky[t]> ok thanks
[22:33] <Mr_Eko> i can see the wireless network but just cant connect to it
[22:33] <freaky[t]> perscitus, where do I find adobe air apps?
[22:33] <erUSUL> perscitus: the ones i tried worked fine (games mostly)
[22:33] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, I can't think of any 32 bit programs I am running on 64bit ubuntu that are do not run like they are supposed to.
[22:34] <perscitus> Halitech.->  then it's not time to switch.  I run 64bit Windows and run 32bit apps flawlessly.
[22:34] <IdleOne> told you he was trolling
[22:34] <perscitus> IdleOne.->  one more time, and i call ops. Dont be rude and disrespectful.
[22:34] <Halitech> perscitus, what 32bit app do you need to run that you feel makes it not ready then?
[22:34] <erUSUL> perscitus: you are making claims without the data to back them up. i have to agree with IdleOne
[22:34] <Pwnlord> hey i'm getting NO CARRIER while attempting to connect to my usb modem, any ideas?
[22:35] <IdleOne> perscitus: the ops are already here waiting
[22:35] <yml> How to create a new tweet with Gwibber ?
[22:35] <Pwnlord> i'm trying both wvdial and umtsmon, and they both give me the same message
[22:35] <perscitus> Halitech.->  I just want to know I am still free to switch back and forth between 32bit app or 64bit freely.
[22:35] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, he said you are trolling. You are saying negative things about 64bit ubuntu while exalting 64bit windows without giving any proof why you believe the other is superior.
[22:35] <IdleOne> perscitus: you are a troll, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to discuss this further
[22:36] <perscitus> !ops IdleOne
[22:36] <LinuxFreakD> rofl
[22:36] <Pwnlord> hey i'm getting NO CARRIER while attempting to connect to my usb modem, any ideas?
[22:36] <IdleOne> you forgot the |
[22:36] <Pici> perscitus: Whats up?
[22:36] <perscitus> Pici.->  IdleOne  is being disrespectful
[22:37] <asdf25> anyone know what the best workspaces program for Windows is? i'm using VirtuaWin but it can take like 15 seconds to switch workspaces
[22:37] <IdleOne> Pici: perscitus feels me calling out his trollish behavior is violating the CoC
[22:37] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, ubuntu 64 runs 32 bit aps just fine... I am running plenty of 32 bit apps on mine with no problems. Maybe you should give 64 bit a try before bad mouthing it.
[22:37] <erUSUL> Pwnlord: no carrier means something is wrong with the line (it gives no "tone" ) so check that everything is plugged correctly etc
[22:37] <perscitus> IdleOne.->  It is.
[22:37] <IdleOne> perscitus: it does not, your trollish behavior violates the CoC
[22:37] <Mr_Eko> i can see the wireless network but just cant connect to it-anyone?
[22:37] <Pici> IdleOne, perscitus: Can you both stop?
[22:37] <IdleOne> but you havent signed it so you are not bound by it, correct?
[22:38] <IdleOne> Pici: sure thing
[22:38] <LinuxFreakD> Pici, please check perscitus' claim by reviewing chat before taking him at his word. Seems to me perscitus has a vendetta against Idle0ne
[22:38] <IdleOne> LinuxFreakD: he is upset because I smelled him a mile away...I'm done now
[22:39] <Pwnlord> hey i'm getting NO CARRIER while attempting to connect to my usb modem, any ideas on how to solve this?
[22:39] <Pwnlord> srrry about the spam =s
[22:40] <IdleOne> !pm | perscitus
[22:40] <LinuxFreakD> Pwnlord, can you give a pastebin of the error for the guys here to look at? They will also need the model of your usb modem. Is it dial up or 3G?
[22:40] <Guest34164> How do I make a good sandwitch?
[22:40] <Halitech> !pm | perscitus
[22:41] <IdleOne> perscitus: I don't need the CoC quoted to me, thank you. You may want to read it yourself.
[22:41] <Rods_Tiger> In Ubuntu in "Empathy", what sort of account details do I enter on that computer to get it to appear on my Bonjour list?
[22:42] <aimtrainer> Hi! I have an Evolution problem. Unluckily there's no #evolution on freenode. I have three E-Mail accounts which I use via Evolution and IMAP. But 2 of them don't have a sent folder and the one that does does't have anything in it. So I can never check if an E-Mail really got sent. Help me please :)
[22:43] <Hb_Kai> is it gmail?
[22:43] <calebH> aimtrainer: you may need to configure evolution to tell it where to store copies of your sent emails
[22:43] <perscitus> Now that i got the IdleOne  on ignore, Anyone care to ease my fears of amd64 switch?
[22:43] <calebH> aimtrainer: by default, these are placed in the local (offline) "Sent" folder.
[22:43] <IdleOne> heh
[22:43] <Helsinkiii> hi
[22:43] <Pwnlord> LinuxFreakD, its a 3G modem, do you want the pastbin of the wvdial or the umtsmon?
[22:44] <Guest34164> How do I make a tasty sandwitch?
[22:44] <Helsinkiii> why is it, when i double click my second HD, an icon appears on my desktop, ?how can i make it appear there all the time
[22:44] <aimtrainer> calebH, thanks I'll look there
[22:44] <erUSUL> !ot | Guest34164
[22:44] <erUSUL> Helsinkiii: make it mount at boot time
[22:44] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, ubuntu 64bit runs great and has no problems with 32 bit apps... I am currently running it on my regular laptop with no problems. Don't fear the switch, just jump right in. You never get anywhere in life if you base your decisions on fear.
[22:44] <erUSUL> !fstab | Helsinkiii
[22:44] <Ioneye> Guest34164, but getting everyone in here at their ignore list..
[22:45] <Helsinkiii> k thansk all
[22:45] <aimtrainer> caleb1, thanks so much there they are :D
[22:45] <LinuxFreakD> Pwnlord, I am still pretty new in Linux, I doubt I will be able to help you resolve the issue. However if you post the question again with a link to the 2 pastebins you just mentioned and the fact it is a 3G modem, someone more knowledgable than me can help you.
[22:46] <yast> guys how do I make a shortcut of a a file to put in in the bin folder? ln - ?
[22:46] <Pwnlord> kk, i'm on it
[22:46] <Guest34164> 8[22:46] <yast> a shortcut of a game executable
[22:46] <aimtrainer> calebH, thanks so much there they are :D
[22:46] <noneNN> yast, ln -s
[22:46] <erUSUL> yast: ln -s /path/filename /bin/linkname
[22:47] <perscitus> linux1.->  but where are the 32bit apps?
[22:47] <calebH> aimtrainer: no prob.  If you want them to get put in the respective "online" sent folders, there are per-account configuration options to do so in evolution
[22:47] <nerdy_kid> hey all, i installed my wireless card on kernel 2.26.28-11. it wont run on the latest (2.26.28.16) even though it is recognized, the drivers wont work. ???? please help!
[22:47] <aimtrainer> calebH, that's ok I'm just happy I can finally be sure I sent something successfully
[22:48] <msaraujo> hi
[22:48] <Pici> perscitus: Ubuntu cannot run 32bit binaries unless you run them in a chroot on computer running the 64bit kernel.
[22:48] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, what do you mean where are the 32 bit apps? In the synaptic package manager and on the web as .deb files. I am not sure I understand your question.
[22:48] <msaraujo> I can't install mysql-server via apt-get (ubuntu 9.04)
[22:48] <rwb> Hello all. I've got a fresh installation of 9.10. If I change the screen resolution then I cannot log in: after entering my password the resolution changes to what i set it to, then it changes back and the login screen re-loads. To log in I have to delete ~./config/monitors.xml. Any help would be much appreciated.
[22:48] <msaraujo> "Waiting for headers" and I get stuck when trying
[22:48] <msaraujo> any ideas?
[22:48] <calebH> aimtrainer: cool.  If you ever change your mind, look in Edit > Preferences > [select the account] > Edit > Defaults > Sent Messages Folder
[22:49] <venger> if i make change in event.d do i have option to refresh the config?
[22:49] <tophyr> i'm trying to stick an ubuntu installation cd onto a flash stick and am having trouble booting the contraption. i've got grub installed on the stick, i just can't figure out what to tell grub to load next. i've tried the /casper/vmlinuz kernel, which appears to be the "try it out" kernel, not the installer, and grub can't chainload /isolinux/isolinux.bin.. any suggestions on what to try next?
[22:49] <perscitus> Pici.-> uh i dont get that
[22:49] <nerdy_kid> driver only works in old kernel...help /pleeeeeaaaaase/!!!!
[22:49] <maco> perscitus: everything in the repos will match your current arch. for things that must be 32bit, the ia32libs package exists to allow them to be installed. ex of packages that use this: skype, flash
[22:49] <Pici> perscitus: seems I've been overruled, seems ia32-libs lets you run some 32bit apps.
[22:52] <perscitus> I should just jump in and backup prefs.  maco, there is 64bit flash but alpha
[22:52] <maco> perscitus: right, so the one in repos is 32bit
[22:52] <maco> perscitus: because adobe wont allow us to distribute alpha software
[22:52] <LinuxFreakD> maco, Pici, ya I was a little confused when Pici said that cause I was pretty sure Skype was 32 bit and I have it installed on 64. But I am still a novice with Ubuntu so I figured I was just wrong.
[22:52] <yast> the thing is I make the shortcut but it doesnt save anything of the game in there
[22:53] <yast> and if I run it in the game folder it does save
[22:53] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, yes there is 64bit flash alpha... I am running it now and it runs great.
[22:54] <spiderworm> hi, im upgrading to 9.10 through the update manager.  i was prompted if i wanted to overwrite my lirc configuration file, and i chose to keep my current file.  The upgrade has just been sitting there doing nothing ever since.  Can anyone help?
[22:54] <perscitus> LinuxFreakD.->  i know amd64 is faster though
[22:55] <LinuxFreakD> how do I kill x-server so I can install my nvidia drivers? I have ctrl-alt-F1 done but it says x is still running.
[22:55] <venger> can anyone tell me your permissions for /dev/ttyS0 ?  i don't think crw------- 1 root root 4, 64 2009-11-16 17:38 /dev/ttyS0 is right any should be something like 660 root:dialout , no?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> tophyr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[22:55] <LinuxFreakD> perscitus, yes, there was a review of 32 bit flash on 32 bit ubuntu, 32 on 64 and 64 alpha on 64. 64 alpha on 64 got the best benchmarks
[22:56] <trism> LinuxFreakD: are you on 9.10? sudo stop gdm; previous sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:56] <Jordan_U> tophyr: You can also just do a standard install to a flash drive if you have enough space
[22:56] <LinuxFreakD> trism, yes I am on 9.10, thanks!
[22:57] <LinuxFreakD> trism, that did the trick, thanks again.
[22:57] <xiong> How is 9.10 working out for people here?
[22:57] <LinuxFreakD> love it
[22:58]  * leaf-sheep licks Ubuntu Karmic out of sheer excitement. 
[22:58] <leaf-sheep> xiong: I'm loving it too.
[22:58] <IAmRock69> hello?
[22:59] <leaf-sheep> IAmRock69: Hello, how may we help you today?
[22:59] <IAmRock69> hey im new to ubuntu
[22:59] <robert__> can someone help me out my terminal willnot load when I open it
[22:59] <IAmRock69> and i need help with flash on firefox
[22:59] <leaf-sheep> IAmRock69: Running 32bit or 64bit?
[22:59] <viktor_> what is the command to change ip "renew it"
[22:59] <IAmRock69> uhh
[23:00] <IAmRock69> 32
[23:00] <robert__> 32
[23:00] <erUSUL> viktor_: sudo dhclient [iface]
[23:00] <IAmRock69> i have flash installed
[23:00] <IAmRock69> but when i go to like youtube
[23:00] <DisguisedAngel> A game folder I have in wine keeps getting it's permissions changed back to no access within minutes of me doing a sudo chmod -R 777 or 755 Folder Name. What the hell is going on and how do I fix it?
[23:00] <IAmRock69> its just a black screen
[23:00] <leaf-sheep> IAmRock69: How did you install Flash?
[23:00] <Quarterstaff> Anyone know how to get your mic working in Skype?
[23:01] <IAmRock69> i went to youtube and did all tat flash player is not installed stuff
[23:01] <robert__> anyone else having trouble w/ terminal "window"
[23:02] <GodFazha> reinstall IAmRock69 ?
[23:02] <jlewis> ok i'm now revisiting 9.10 and trying to figure out an issue
[23:02] <IAmRock69> im new and ive only used the terminal a few times
[23:02] <IAmRock69> how would i reinstall?
[23:02] <LinuxFreakD> IAmRock69 did you reboot firefox after you installed it? And are you running 64 bit or 32 bit Ubuntu?
[23:03] <GodFazha> go to adobe.com, dl and reinstall
[23:03] <IAmRock69> 32
[23:03] <IAmRock69> and yes
[23:03] <GodFazha> you get a .deb package
[23:03] <LinuxFreakD> k, try what GodFazha said then
[23:03] <IAmRock69> alright will do
[23:03] <randomusr> Can't mount my sd card. What gives?
[23:03] <DisguisedAngel> A game folder I have in wine keeps getting it's permissions changed back to no access within minutes of me doing a sudo chmod -R 777 or 755 Folder Name. What the hell is going on and how do I fix it?
[23:04] <Clark3934> What's the current kernel for karmic?
[23:04] <erUSUL> Clark3934: 2.6.31
[23:04] <IAmRock69> alright
[23:05] <jlewis> I had a Sony PCG-R505EL laptop working great on 9.04, ugrade to 9.10 and it boots with kernel 2.6.31-14 but the graphics are tiled, resolution wrong, then it fades to white in a starburst pattern when it gets to the desktop, it boots into 2.6.28-14 kernel just fine and graphics work great (although trackpad doesn't work, just using a USB mouse)
[23:05] <IAmRock69> i downloaded the deb
[23:05] <IAmRock69> and installed
[23:05] <IdleOne> Clark3934: 2.6.31-15
[23:05] <IAmRock69> i got an error
[23:05] <GodFazha> and restarted firefox
[23:05] <Clark3934> ok, thanks.  For some reason, the OpenAFS install from the repository complains about my kernel version.
[23:05] <robert__> anyone help with a terminal problem?
[23:05] <IAmRock69> im gonna show u the pic
[23:05] <randomusr> IAmRock69, ok
[23:05] <jeffmr> robert__, sure
[23:06] <GodFazha> ok =), I can't give you very much in dept help tho I've only been using linux for a month or two..
[23:06] <robert__> can't get it to show prompt when it opens
[23:06] <GodFazha> Installing flash on 64-bit took me quite long :P
[23:06] <jlewis> oh and I can't use the computer on 2.6.31 either, even though it works fine on 2.6.28
[23:06] <jlewis> there's no response and no desktop items are loaded
[23:06] <jeffmr> robert__: what does it show?
[23:06] <jeffmr> l
[23:06] <robert__> just a blank white square
[23:06] <dangerx89> ciao
[23:06] <tophyr> Jordan_U: thx for link, i'll look thru it.. ended up finding a page on how to convert an isolinux.cfg file into grub commands and i got grub to boot the kernel properly
[23:07] <IAmRock69> um
[23:07] <IAmRock69> i did ctrl prints screen
[23:07] <jeffmr> robert__: can you see the menu?
[23:07] <IAmRock69> does tat work on ubuntu?
[23:07] <flootenkerp> Does anyone here know a linux IRC client that is similar to mirc?
[23:07] <GodFazha> do it without control
[23:07] <IAmRock69> ohhh
[23:07] <GodFazha> or you can just open gimp and take a screenshot from there
[23:07] <robert__> can load into gnome
[23:08] <GodFazha> but when screenshot is pressed it should open a menu
[23:08] <IAmRock69> oh
[23:08] <GodFazha> screenshot=printscr
[23:08] <robert__> just no terminal
[23:08] <IAmRock69> thats so much easier then windows
[23:08] <IdleOne> flootenkerp: closest would be Xchat
[23:08] <jeffmr> robert__: are you opening the Terminal app from the applications menu?
[23:08] <robert__> yes
[23:09] <IAmRock69> ok
[23:09] <IAmRock69> here http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5457/screenshotoz.png
[23:09] <jeffmr> robert__: what happens if you open a new tab in the terminal window?
[23:09] <randomusr> what are the SElinux packages that people are installing on 9.04/9.10?
[23:09] <robert__> how would I do that?
[23:09] <Falun> hey! question about the notifications in ubuntu 9.10 -- why do they show up like 50 pixels below the top-right corner of the screen?
[23:09] <zero> hello
[23:10] <Falun> and is there any way to change that?
[23:10] <jeffmr> robert__: there should be a File menu in Terminal
[23:10] <swtaarrs> Falun: what version of ubuntu?
[23:10] <SpectantE> ummmh good night...
[23:10] <Falun> swtaarrs, 9.10, in the question
[23:11] <SpectantE> I see this a english channel isn't it?
[23:11] <robert__> still nothing
[23:11] <IAmRock69> hellooo?
[23:11] <tophyr> SpectantE predominantly
[23:11] <Guest12350> Just got 9.10 installed and lost sound from my Delta 1010 soundcard....
[23:11] <Guest12350> any ideas?
[23:11] <jeffmr> robert__: under the Terminal menu try reset and clear
[23:11] <SpectantE> tophyr i see xdd
[23:11] <randomusr> My SD card used to mount without me doing a thing, now it won't, and I'm not sure how to mount it.
[23:12] <Falun> randomusr: oh, what hardware?
[23:12] <IAmRock69> robert? godfahza? leaf sheep?
[23:12] <jeffmr> robert__: then hit the enter key
[23:12] <Falun> I have that problem too, the internet says it worked with 8.04 but it doesn't now =/
[23:12] <ortsvorsteher> after upgrading to 9.10 my left alt key doesnt work
[23:12] <randomusr> Falun, inspiron 1720
[23:12] <randomusr> I believe it's a Ricoh card reader
[23:13] <GodFazha> IAmRock69, I have no idea, sorry :(
[23:13] <IAmRock69> awww
[23:13] <Falun> randomusr: ha, yea, sounds like the same bit my laptop has
[23:13] <randomusr> Falun, I should note that it's a built in card reader
[23:13] <IAmRock69> thx for trying
[23:13] <Falun> mine too
[23:13] <randomusr> Falun, do you have this issue also?
[23:13] <Falun> yes
[23:13] <Falun> and like I said, initial investigation suggests this is a regression in 9.10
[23:13] <SpectantE> How can I join in and spanish channel? I'm just kowing linux, it is very new for me...
[23:13] <darrend> are jaunty .iso's still available to d/l?
[23:13] <Falun> well, since 8.04
[23:14] <Guest12350> anyone has time to explain to me how to get sound working on 9.10?
[23:14] <tonsofpcs> Guest12350: new install?
[23:14] <tonsofpcs> also, /nick [name]
[23:14] <Guest12350> no, upgrade
[23:14] <tonsofpcs> was it working prior?
[23:15] <randomusr> Falun, one must wonder what kind of advantage that has
[23:15] <Guest12350> yes
[23:15] <Falun> so no one has ideas about what's wrong with my notifications in 9.10?
[23:15] <SpectantE> no idea?
[23:15] <tonsofpcs> Guest12350: what was it using prior? oss? alsa? jackd? pulseaudio?
[23:15] <Guest12350> I tried to locate it using modconf, but I'm new to ubuntu -ex debian user for years
[23:15] <IdleOne> SpectantE: /join #ubuntu-es
[23:16] <SpectantE> IdleOne,  ohh, thank you very much xdd
[23:16] <IAmRock69> anyone wanna help me with flash instal problem?
[23:16] <SpectantE>  /join #ubuntu-es
[23:16] <Guest12350> tonsofpcs: alsa
[23:17] <Falun> SpectantE, no space before /
[23:17] <tonsofpcs> Guest12350: killall pulseaudio
[23:17] <tonsofpcs> then try
[23:17] <IdleOne> SpectantE: no space in front of /
[23:17] <ortsvorsteher> after upgrading to 9.10 my left alt key doesnt work. i have an cherry linux keyboard.
[23:17] <IAmRock69> http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5457/screenshotoz.png
[23:17] <tonsofpcs> [close audio apps first, of course]
[23:17] <IAmRock69> flash
[23:17] <tonsofpcs> ortsvorsteher: cherry?
[23:17] <tonsofpcs> i want a cherry flavored keyboard!
[23:18] <ortsvorsteher> tonsofpcs, no, it isnt flavored ;) its a cherry keyboard, you know it? www.cherry.de
[23:18] <detrix> anyone else here have the ati all-in-wonder remote control?  How do I map the keys?
[23:18] <tonsofpcs> anyway, ortsvorsteher, what keyboard map are you using?
[23:18] <IAmRock69> how do i force quit something?
[23:18] <Guest12350> thanks tonsofpcs will try and see
[23:18] <leaf-sheep> ortsvorsteher: A hot woman laying down next to the keyboard... Now I have seen it all.
[23:18] <ortsvorsteher> tonsofpcs, its an german layout
[23:18] <tonsofpcs> ortsvorsteher: with or without alt+gr?
[23:18] <ortsvorsteher> :D leaf-sheep
[23:19] <darrend> Guest12350: I imagine restarting pulseaudio won't work if you're having the same problems hundreds of others are with sound :(
[23:19] <darrend> (me included)
[23:19] <ortsvorsteher> tonsofpcs, with alt gr
[23:19] <jeffmr> IAmRock69, ctrl+alt+esc then click on the app
[23:19] <tonsofpcs> ortsvorsteher: and the alt-gr isn't working or the normal alt isn't?
[23:19] <ortsvorsteher> tonsofpcs, the normal alt ( left one ) isnt working
[23:20] <tonsofpcs> ortsvorsteher: is it somehow mapped to gr maybe? [i've seen that happen]
[23:20] <ortsvorsteher> tonsofpcs, you mean to greece?
[23:20] <tonsofpcs> no, to alt+gr
[23:20] <tonsofpcs> or possibly it got mapped to meta?
[23:20] <IAmRock69> omfg
[23:20] <IAmRock69> i tried to install flash
[23:20] <IAmRock69> i get an error
[23:20] <tonsofpcs> IAmRock69: i'm sorry
[23:20] <IAmRock69> i press print screen to take a pic
[23:21] <IAmRock69> now i cant close it
[23:21] <IAmRock69> wtf
[23:21] <FloodBot2> IAmRock69: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:21] <freaky[t]> hi all. how do I add a ppa to my sources without editing sources.list? is there some kind of command?
[23:21] <randomusr> Card read won't mount SD Card in 9.10. Here's the first of two lines from dmesg [    8.357363] ricoh-mmc: Ricoh MMC Controller disabling driver.... what gives?
[23:22] <randomusr> does that mean my card reader is disabled?
[23:22] <IAmRock69> a
[23:22] <IAmRock69> n
[23:22] <IAmRock69> y
[23:22] <IAmRock69> o
[23:22] <IAmRock69> n
[23:22] <FloodBot2> IAmRock69: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:22] <IAmRock69> e
[23:22] <DisguisedAngel> A game folder I have in wine keeps getting it's permissions changed back to no access within minutes of me doing a sudo chmod -R 777 or 755 Folder Name. What the hell is going on and how do I fix it?
[23:22] <leaf-sheep> freaky[t]: add-apt-repository
[23:23] <boritek> hello. I noisy audio in many apps, mainly in games, like Smoking Guns. How can i fix it?
[23:23] <Carsten-> Hello people. I have a problem with my new Karmic install, it was installed a few days back, worked fine till last night, when I drop to a console, I can login ok, but hwne I go back to GDM, it will not let me login, I enter the correct password, but it then just comes back to GDM login prompt again. I am using the correct password. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[23:23] <boritek> *i have
[23:24] <ardchoille> freaky[t]: you can use echo and tee in a terminal: echo "text to add" | sudo tee -a /path/file
[23:24] <rsnake> Hello! I can't boot from a CD on latest version of Ubuntu, I hit 'boot from cd' and it just takes me straight to GRUB, anyone know how I can boot from CD?
[23:24] <boritek> Carsten-: try reinstall gdm
[23:24] <freaky[t]> ok thanks
[23:24] <freaky[t]> but i meant another way but i just found it out myself
[23:24] <ardchoille> ok
[23:25] <darrend> Carsten-: sudo restart gdm  (from your console) then try again
[23:25] <boritek> rsnake: make sure it is written to disk flawlessly
[23:26] <DisguisedAngel> The permissions on a file keep getting set back to no access minutes after I have done a "sudo chmod -R 777 Folder Name" does anyone know what would cause this and how to fix it?
[23:27] <boritek> I have noisy audio in karmic in many apps, mainly in games, like Smoking Guns. How can i fix it?
[23:27] <Carsten-> ok, thanks i shall retry next time i reboot back into linux.
[23:27] <Carsten-> thanks for the ideas :)
[23:27] <nokia3510> hello
[23:27] <skx> where does duplicity keep its configuration files? and deja-dup? how can you edit deja-dup bookmarks?
[23:28] <jrib> DisguisedAngel: what file exactly?
[23:28] <nokia3510> can anyone help me with the default password for ubuntu user on the live cd ?
[23:28] <Ioneye> how can i see what version of kernel i am using right now?
[23:28] <DisguisedAngel> it's a folder under .wine/c_drive/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/
[23:28] <nokia3510> Ioneye,  uname -r
[23:28] <Scunizi> DisguisedAngel: could be you need to sudo chown -R <username>:<username> <path>
[23:29] <DisguisedAngel> Scunizi, I will try that, thansk
[23:29] <DisguisedAngel> thanks too, lol
[23:29] <leaf-sheep> nokia3510: There are none. Make a new one. "sudo passwd ubuntu"
[23:29] <boritek> DisguisedAngel: uname -a
[23:29] <jrib> DisguisedAngel: I don't see why you would have to mess with permissions at all...
[23:29] <Ioneye> is the 2.6.31-14-generic the latest kernel?
[23:29] <nokia3510> thanks leaf-sheep
[23:29] <laloune> hi everybody !
[23:29] <boritek> Ioneye: no -15
[23:29] <leaf-sheep> !info linux-image-generic | Ioneye
[23:30] <boritek> I have noisy audio in karmic in many apps, mainly in games, like Smoking Guns. How can i fix it?
[23:31] <ortsvorsteher> after upgrading to 9.10 the combination of CTRL and ALT key ( for rotating cube in compiz ) doesnt work.
[23:32] <noneNN> is there any channel for ubuntu netbook remix?
[23:32] <nokia3510> leaf-sheep, it worked with <passwd> only. For current pass i pressed CR and moved to setting the new pass
[23:33] <rsk> !unr | noneNN
[23:33] <Senesence> I need some help with installing the nvidia hardware drivers. Could anyone here help me out?
[23:33] <laloune> dear all, a friend of mine gave me itunes credit for my birthday, how can I buy songs on Ubuntu ?
[23:33] <jcrawford> laloune, you cannot
[23:33] <billybigrigger> anyone here using dual-monitors with an nvidia card in karmic?
[23:33] <noneNN> wheres desktop-switcher package in karmic?
[23:33] <rsk> laloune with virtualbox or wine
[23:33] <nokia3510> leaf-sheep, I was expecting a pass like CentOS has, since it asked to input the "current one", and that puzzled me in the first place
[23:33] <jcrawford> itunes is not on linux sorry mac and windows only
[23:33] <Scunizi> laloune: load a vm of windows
[23:34] <RanDom33>  can someone tell me how or link me to how.... to install 32 bit gdb... i have 64 bit gdb on my amd64 machine
[23:34] <bluesscream> senecense details?
[23:34] <RanDom33> i need both 32 and 64 bit gdb
[23:34] <laloune> ok thanks for your response, I will ask him to download the music for me :-)
[23:34] <hondasid> hey guys, I just booted ubuntu for the first time and I'm confused.  It doesn't look anything like windows
[23:34] <Scunizi> RanDom33: gdb? not familur with that
[23:34] <RanDom33> Scunizi, gnome debugger
[23:34] <hondasid> what's the deal with that
[23:34] <hondasid> and i can't find WMP either
[23:34] <Scunizi> RanDom33: ah.. sorry I don't have an answer
[23:35] <Senesence> bluesscream: Enabling drivers through jockey breaks X on restart.
[23:35] <rsk> hondasid that's normal. ubuntu is not windows
[23:35] <Scunizi> hondasid: funny... I thought windows didn't look anything like Ubuntu.. strange.
[23:35] <bluesscream> Senesence your card?
[23:35] <rsk> hondasid for a replacment program of WMP try VLC.
[23:36] <hondasid> ok, so i want to play my mp3'sand check my email, how do i do that?
[23:36] <hondasid> ok, i had vlc on my xp
[23:36] <soreau> Is there a way to find out what might pull in a certain package?
[23:36] <rsk> hondasid what kind of mail?
[23:36] <KenBW2> is there a gconf key for startup applications?
[23:36] <hondasid> gmail
[23:36] <rsk> hondasid load firefox and enter gmail.com
[23:36] <ortsvorsteher> now it works xD
[23:37] <popkorn> hi all...want to edit a line in etc/pulse/default.pa   can i comment out the line to change (###) and just add the new line below it?
[23:37] <Scunizi> hondasid: email can be done with Evolution or you can load thunderbird.. there are also many other email clients.. mp3's you'll need the "licensed" codecs to play.. check the medibuntu repositories for those.. I'll send a link
[23:37] <hondasid> i have 3g internet
[23:37] <Senesence> bluesscream: Nvidia 9300M GS
[23:37] <Scunizi> !medibuntu | hondasid
[23:37] <erUSUL> popkorn: probably
[23:37] <gasull> Hi.  I do  set FOO bar; set  and then FOO isn't there.  What am I doing wrong?  Thanks.
[23:37] <popkorn> TY i'll give it a try
[23:37] <hondasid> and it's not on, i can't find the alltel program on the drive to run and connect
[23:38] <rsk> Scunizi althou, MPlayer works with mp3's without medibuntu.
[23:38] <Argos> hey all
[23:38] <Argos> i want to install ubuntu 64bit which is the correct link
[23:38] <rsk> Argos let's hope not every 1500 here answears :p
[23:38] <Scunizi> rsk: didn't know that.. are you speaking of the version in the Main repo?
[23:38] <rsk> Scunizi yes
[23:39] <Flannel> Argos: the AMD64 is the correct version
[23:39] <Flannel> Argos: Alternate or Desktop will both give you an install disc
[23:39] <Ignatius> hey guys... I can't enable wireless networking in ubuntu 8.10
[23:39] <Argos> thx flannel
[23:39] <Ignatius> any help please?
[23:39] <randomusr> Why won't my card reader function?
[23:40] <randomusr> it had been working fine
[23:40] <bluesscream> Senesence plz come to #nvidia, it makes me dizzy here
[23:40] <Argos> Flannel, this is coming down fast..wow
[23:40] <arthurjohnson> window log on logfile /home/arthur/irclogs/win2
[23:40] <arthurjohnson> window log off
[23:40] <hondasid> anyone know about 3G internet?
[23:41] <Ignatius> hey guys... I can't enable wireless networking in ubuntu 8.10 any help available please?
[23:41] <KenBW2> is there a command to set startup applications?
[23:41] <ortsvorsteher> Ignatius, 8.10 or 9.10?
[23:41] <kernco> KenBW2: Startup applications in system->preferences
[23:41] <erUSUL> KenBW2: at boot time or at login time ?
[23:41] <Ignatius> 8.10
[23:41] <ortsvorsteher> Ignatius, may you try to install wicd?
[23:41] <KenBW2> erUSUL: login
[23:41] <sunking> o ubuntu
[23:41] <perscitus> Whats the easiest way to remove grub2 mbr  from hard drive?
[23:42] <KenBW2> kernco: a command - i'm trying to make a script
[23:42] <Terminator> I just launched compiz in a terminal..
[23:42] <micheal> hey, know any good easily to use dvd making software?
[23:42] <erUSUL> KenBW2: then see what kernco said
[23:42] <Terminator> and now all the bars on top of programs are gone..
[23:42] <Argos> is ubuntu better then the prevous version?
[23:42] <Terminator> any ideas??
[23:42] <Terminator> using xubuntu..
[23:42] <KenBW2> erUSUL: see what i said to kernco :P
[23:42] <Scunizi> rsk: I didn't think they would do that in "Main"
[23:42] <rsk> Argos previous versions... of?
[23:42] <Fujk> to get dual monitors running should I get a GFX card with 2x DVIs?
[23:42] <hondasid> wtf, the guys in #puppylinux were way friendlier
[23:42] <Argos> 8.04
[23:42] <Bonz> perscitus: sledgehammer, well maybe not easiest, but most fun
[23:42] <rsk> Argos maybe.
[23:42] <Ignatius> ortsvorsteher: no, because I don't have any wired internet, and I can't use the wireless, so having to use windows instead
[23:43] <micheal> hey, know any good easily to use dvd making software?
[23:43] <arand> perscitus: install another bootloader mbr (normally what you want to do(although the easiest is to just zero it out, which would render your hd unbootable...))
[23:43] <ortsvorsteher> Ignatius, the wireless lan worked?
[23:43] <Argos> ill soon find out ..heheh  rsk
[23:43] <perscitus> arand.->  cant. need to remove grub2 first
[23:43] <Scunizi> micheal: deeveedee, LiVeS, kdenlive etc.. there's lots.
[23:43] <Ignatius> ortsvorsteher: yes, I'm using it now
[23:43] <arand> perscitus: what are you actually trying to do?
[23:43] <Scunizi> micheal: once made.. burn with k3b
[23:44] <micheal> i dont understand devede
[23:44] <jakobks> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:44] <perscitus> arand.->  get grub2 mbr off my hdd
[23:44] <jakobks> anyone can help me?
[23:44] <hondasid> alltel internet? anyone?  help a new ubuntard like myself
[23:44] <ortsvorsteher> Ignatius, sorry, i have no idea cause i am using now wired connection and 9.04
[23:44] <KenBW2> is there a command to set startup applications?
[23:44] <Scunizi> micheal: check out LiVeS! on www.getdeb.net
[23:44] <markhard> ciao
[23:44] <micheal> thx folks
[23:44] <SmurfDaddy> \o/
[23:44] <jrib> !startup | KenBW2
[23:44] <SmurfDaddy> \\
[23:44] <SmurfDaddy> \\o
[23:44] <markhard> !list
[23:44] <SmurfDaddy> o//
[23:44] <chuckf> hondasid: what is alltel internet?
[23:44] <FloodBot2> SmurfDaddy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <SmurfDaddy> \o/
[23:44] <jrib> SmurfDaddy: stop please
[23:44] <SmurfDaddy> |o|
[23:45] <markhard> !bot
[23:45] <SmurfDaddy> ok sorry
[23:45] <obione> hi ubunters - need a litle help here
[23:45] <Terminator> I just launched compiz in a terminal..and now all the bars on top of programs are gone..<Terminator> any ideas??
 using xubuntu..
[23:45] <kernco> KenBW2: I think you can create a .profile file and put startup commands there, that's not what the gui tool does, though.  I'm not sure what file it edits.
[23:45] <hondasid> it's a usb stick that dials a number like a cell phone and connects on a 3G network
[23:46] <hondasid> usb drive pantech um175
[23:46] <anathematic> how do I get a found of the number of files in one directory?
[23:46] <obione> I would like to install latest kernel available in kernel.org,     but I would like to know witch modules my current kernel has
[23:46] <jrib> kernco: it creates .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart
[23:46] <chuckf> hondasid: and what is the problem?
[23:46] <perscitus> Whats the easiest way to remove grub2 mbr  from A hard drive?
[23:46] <hondasid> idk how to connect it in ubuntu
[23:46] <jrib> anathematic: what?
[23:46] <SecretofMana> Hey guys, stupid newbie question here, but what is /usr/bin/time ?
[23:46] <jrib> perscitus: replace it with something else
[23:47] <anathematic> jrib:  sorry, I want to know how many files are in this directory
[23:47] <perscitus> jrib.->  Uh NO. Removing it.
[23:47] <obione> so that I can choose the same modules in the latest kernel (and add a few for new hardware)
[23:47] <kernco> Is there a way to change where the notifications appear?
[23:47] <jrib> perscitus: use dd I guess.....
[23:47] <perscitus> jrib.->  i dont need a replacement. and no dd
[23:47] <KenBW2> kernco: thanks, ill use that if i cant find the file it edits
[23:47] <chuckf> hondasid: what is idk?
[23:47] <trism> obione: your current config is in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[23:48] <perscitus> jrib.->  can i get fdisk /mbr to point to the hdd?
[23:48] <jrib> perscitus: I don't know
[23:48] <jrib> anathematic: ls -l will tell you
[23:48] <arand> perscitus: this command will remove the grub2 mbr and disable your computer to boot completely, and this is gereally not what sane people wants to do, but since you persistently ask: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd# bs=446 count=1" (no quotes and replace # with correct disk letter)
[23:49] <perscitus> jrib.->  karmic is to dumb as it installs it self on Windows HDD and not Linux HDD.
[23:49] <SecretofMana> can someone explain to a poor newbie what /usr/bin/time is and how I might go about getting it if I don't have it?
[23:49] <arand> perscitus: that will still allow it to boot from cd/usb, but will make it fail to boot from the specified hd completely
[23:49] <jrib> perscitus: the installer asks where you want to install it to iirc
[23:49] <Scunizi> perscitus: only if you let it.. there is a manual partition and setup option on install..
[23:49] <anathematic> HAHA OH WOW
[23:49] <trism> SecretofMana: it is in the time package, and it allows you to time the execution of programs
[23:50] <perscitus> jrib.->  no it doesnt. never did.
[23:50] <perscitus> Scunizi.->  your wrong.
[23:50] <joaopinto> SecretofMana, open a terminal and type: time
[23:50] <jrib> perscitus: you may have missed it
[23:50] <anathematic> total 7527820
[23:50] <anathematic> niceeeeee
[23:50] <Scunizi> perscitus: you're wrong.. been doing it that way for 5 years
[23:50] <xzcvczx> does anyone else get Totem crashing when opening subsequent movies (i keep it open and just open the next movie from nautilus)?
[23:50] <Falcorian> jrib: perscitus: It does indeed, I used it when installing
[23:50] <perscitus> Ubuntu Installer HAS NEVER EVER asked where to install bootloader
[23:51] <jrib> perscitus: weird, must have gotten a bug everytime I install ubuntu I guess.
[23:51] <SecretofMana> okay, that works, so I guess I do have it...but some weird error I'm getting installing Google's programming language was linked to not having that...hm odd, thanks
[23:51] <perscitus> You people are in error and incorrect.
[23:51] <Scunizi> perscitus: bootloader.. true.. however after install you can put it where you want it.
[23:51] <xTheGoat121x> Is there any way to set the CTRL-TAB binding to switch convos in Empathy?
[23:51] <obione> trism, is'nt there a way I could save modules name to a txt for instance ?
[23:51] <Bonz> hmm funny ubuntu installer gave me a choice of 3 disks to install too
[23:51] <Scunizi> perscitus: you didn't say bootloader previously.. just the install location.
[23:51] <obione> sorry for english
[23:51] <arand> perscitus: the mbr will ALWAYS overwrite the windows mbr to be able to enable grub, such is life.
[23:51] <perscitus> It only asks where to install Ubuntu and what partition. Installer doesnt ask about bootloader
[23:51] <obione> isn't*
[23:52] <arand> perscitus: easiest way to rewrite the windows mbr is to boot a windows cd and run the fixmbr tool.
[23:52] <Bonz> but that wasn't just bootloader, that was whole kit and caboodle
[23:52] <Scunizi> Bonz: he's speaking of where the grub reference goess in the MBR..
[23:52] <ortsvorsteher> whats your preferred language? obione
[23:52] <obione> pt
[23:52] <obione> why '
[23:52] <ortsvorsteher> !pt
[23:52] <obione> ?
[23:52] <perscitus> arand.->  except i cant. Both hdds have grub2
[23:52] <Bonz> it also detected other installs and offerred to install next to them instead
[23:52] <trism> obione: lsmod will list your current modules, but then you'll have to search for them all when you configure, it is much easier to copy /boot/config-$(uname -r) to .config in your kernel source, and use that as a starting point when you make menuconfig
[23:52] <arand> perscitus: you can define bootloader location in the advanced settings but yes it will overwrite by default
[23:52] <JohnCDI> i have an intel 2200bg onboard wifi in a thinkpad r51 i just did an install of 9.10 and it detects networks but wont connect at all any help?
[23:52] <ortsvorsteher> may you find help in !pt channel obione ;)
[23:53] <obione> but I could not find that file ...
[23:53] <perscitus> There arent adv settings in installer
[23:53] <arand> perscitus: so you are trying to get back the windows bootloader?
[23:53] <jakobks> Can anyone help me with fixing: ls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:53] <obione> ok :) tnks guys
[23:53] <arand> perscitus: at the last screen there are, when "reviewing changes"
[23:53] <perscitus> arand.->  On the Windows HDD, yes.
[23:54] <arand> perscitus: and you don't have a windows CD?
[23:54] <Scunizi> perscitus: you can do that with a windows cd.. fixmbrr
[23:54] <Scunizi> fixmbr
[23:54] <perscitus> Scunizi.->  on Win7 cd?
[23:54] <Scunizi> perscitus: not sure about win7 but it worked on xp & vista
[23:54] <arand> perscitus: most probably yes
[23:55] <kernco> My notifications are appearing with a gap between the top panel and the notification, instead of being right up against the panel like I see in screenshots.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[23:55] <maurer_1> My friend's machine has recently had the graphics hardware switched to intel integrated. However, I cannot seem to get the i915 driver to be chosen for this, it instead picks some unaccelerated driver. What should I be looking at?
[23:55] <Falcorian> kernco: That's a feature I'm pretty sure
[23:55] <jrib> anathematic: apparently, total tells you blocks, not files
[23:55] <perscitus> arand.->  whats safest way to change boot flags to linux hdd?
[23:55] <Falcorian> kernco: I recall reading they moved the notifications down in 9.10 so they wouldn't hide the close buttons. I don't think they're movable
[23:56] <kernco> Falcorian: Ah, ok.  Thank
[23:56] <Scunizi> maurer_1: couple things.. first look in synaptic package manager and search for i915 or just 915.. second you might try .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it might pull it in.
[23:56] <freaky[t]> how can I make xchat in ubuntu to play a sound on highlight?
[23:56] <ewan_> Oh damn why did i update my ubuntu to 9.10 :P nothing works^^
[23:57] <scottandmonique> make sure that the hard drive u are installing linux ubuntu is the master remove all other disks if needed it will detect later
[23:57] <arand> perscitus: since I have no experience with dual harddrives I do not know, change boot order in bios?
[23:57] <maurer_1> Scunizi: Already have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed.
[23:57] <perscitus> freaky[t].->  Preferences
[23:57] <freaky[t]> i know
[23:57] <freaky[t]> but it doesnt play a sound
[23:57] <erUSUL> jakobks: how did you ended up with that error ? that lib comes in libc6 the basic linux library ----
[23:57] <freaky[t]> and there dont seem to be default sounds assigned
[23:57] <perscitus> freaky[t].->  cuz you have to assign them
[23:57] <freaky[t]> perscitus, and where do i get sound files from?
[23:58] <scottandmonique> in your bios F2 or delete into bios on start up and make the hard drive the booted drive
[23:58] <Scunizi> perscitus: you can add the boot flag with gparted.. System>Admin>partiton manager .. if it's not there then sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:58] <ewan_> i cant hear sound since i updated my ubuntu, what could be the problem?
[23:58] <Scunizi> maurer_1: sorry.. intel drivers aren't my forte
[23:58] <mathepic> jakobks: Broken install, try reinstalling
[23:58] <foma_> i am using ubuntu netbook remix 9.10
[23:58] <tnk092> how to unzip a .rar file in terminal
[23:58] <maurer_1> Scunizi: Yeah, I'
[23:58] <jakobks> mathepic: You Mean i have to reinstall the system?
[23:58] <arand> ewan_: Try these two links (first one covers more, second is more specific w/ commands): http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-ubuntu-karmic-beta.html AND http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[23:58] <mathepic> probably, if glibc is broken
[23:59] <maurer_1> Scunizi: I'm confused because I have the _exact_ same card as her, and mine has just worked the entire time.
[23:59] <foma_> added to the favorites menu shortcut youtube
[23:59] <maurer_1> Scunizi: So it likely has something to do with her computer being confused by her initial ATI beocming intel
[23:59] <Scunizi> maurer_1: you might also try booting into the recover kernel.. there are options there to reset the video
[23:59] <foma_> how do i change the icon?