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troglobytetwin view spreads the desktop across both monitors.  panels only on one unless you decide to add more to the second,00:06
troglobytedrag and drop, etc all work across both00:06
Vonorhi00:24
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Guest31371xubuntu 9.10 ltsp install fails, syslog says that the packages libnewt0.52, libuuid1, ext2-modules and efi-modules do not exist00:26
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Mystiquehey all; anyone around?00:37
MystiqueI've been trying to get apm working on 9.10.. used to work *perfectly* in 9.0400:38
Mystiqueshould I try to get powersaved working?00:39
owen1anyone knows the name of the utility for setting up a usb stick where you can install ubuntu from the usb? (not the unetbootin)01:06
dm_synckNot sure. Tried searching Ubuntu forums ?01:20
owen1dm_synck: will do it now01:35
owen1can i install text-based xubutu with the desktop cd?01:55
owen1when i hit f6 (other options) i see: acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmraid, free software only01:56
electrifiedspamI have a working script that switches my caps lock and Ctrl. How can I have this run at startup?02:01
Techieelectrifiedspam, add it into the statup commands02:04
Techiestartup*02:04
Techieunder sessions (im not in xubuntu, or even linux so i cant be precise)02:05
dm_synckFor text based xubuntu, maybe you want the "minimal" cd.02:08
dm_synckYou may have to poke around on the Ubuntu site to find it, but it is there somewhere.02:09
owen1dm_synck: got it. thank02:11
dm_synckGlad to help.02:11
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emmaDoes xubuntu 9.10 use the latest kernel?02:56
emmaowen1: im using that right now actually. Do you run Ubuntu of any kind currently?  If so just go to system > administrate > make bootable usb02:57
owen1emma: thanks. i finally installed it from a cd.03:35
rkaranany one know if there are packages for gvim available for Xubuntu 9.10?  sudo apt-get install vim-gtk does not seem to exist, neither do vim-gnome, vim-tiny04:34
rkaransorry, I meant to say 'sudo apt-get install vim-gtk' does not seem to work as the package does not exist04:35
C00LARR01i am wanting to buy a usb wifi adapter and looking to see if anyone has any good experiece with a certain make and model?04:37
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Rapsodhello, is anyone connected?04:51
RapsodI am having installation issues04:51
_Techie_Rapsod, there are always people connected, just most of them are about as much use as a nail without a hammer04:56
Rapsodok04:57
_Techie_as for me, im playing fallout 304:57
_Techie_so dont expect any speedy answers04:57
Rapsodwell, as so many people are online04:58
Rapsodmore info04:58
Rapsodi was trying to install karmic04:58
Rapsodusing the alternate cd since i have 256 ram04:58
Rapsodthe live cd didnt want to boot04:59
* likemindead wonders, "Why are there so many lurkers in here? :-\04:59
likemindeadDid you run the "Check disc for defects" option, Rapsod?04:59
Rapsodyes05:00
Rapsodno error05:00
C00LARR01Rapsod: did you but it to cd or use a usb drive to try to install05:00
Rapsodalso checked md5 of iso05:01
likemindeadI know this is lame, but I've tried to boot A LOT of Live CDs on A LOT of different machines and sometimes you find one that just won't boot.05:02
likemindeadNo doubt there's a command you can enter to force it, but that'd be beyond me.05:03
Rapsodi use a cd05:03
C00LARR01Rapsod: i tried to install 9.10 on my laptop using the alternate install on my usb drive and it didnt work but the regualar one worked just fine05:04
Rapsodi also noted that each new version of *buntu is harder to install than the former one05:06
Rapsodthe errors mass-appear on 'installing the base system' step05:07
likemindeadSorry that's been your experience, Rapsod, but I've installed every version of *buntu on many different machines with no problems.05:08
C00LARR01ya i have had no problems other than this 1 time with the alternate install05:08
likemindeadIf you don't *need* to be on the bleeding edge, I'd fall back to the Long Term Support Release, 8.04 now.05:08
Rapsodyay05:09
likemindeadIt'll be MUCH more stable.05:09
Rapsodthat is a thing i didnt noted, however i already lost 2 cds05:09
Rapsodnot that i am complaining, but05:09
Rapsodwhat would you recommend for the 8.04 alternate or desktop?05:10
likemindeadAlternate will be faster. Especially if you have low specs.05:10
Rapsodexcellent05:10
likemindeadG'nite, all.05:10
Rapsodwell torrenting now will see tomorrow05:11
Rapsodthanks for advice, all of you05:14
chowells_Is xfce supposed to do things like let you drag windows around by their menu bars?05:19
_Techie_it should05:19
_Techie_anyway, im gonna go install kubuntu on my other HDD05:20
chowells_I'm guessing xfce is crashing then.  my system is acting like it's not running any wm05:20
chowells_does it have a log somewhere?05:20
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CountDownIs there a version of the 9.10 release for the PPC port that fixes the oversized ISO bug?05:55
subspidergood morning everybody07:27
c_wraithhuh.  where is disabling my trackpad's tap-to-click in the xfce settings?08:10
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Rapsodhello, im getting this error while trying to install:11:23
Rapsodexception Emask 0x011:23
RapsodI disabled on bios Smart for hdd and it disappeared, but then came again later11:25
robertfHello14:01
robertf!sources.list14:01
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories14:01
robertfWhere can i find the xubuntu's netboot.tar.gz14:02
wrgbrobertf: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14:12
robertfwrgb> there is only ubuntu or not xubuntu14:13
wrgbCan't find one for Xubuntu, the documentation for network install says you can use the image from the alternate install cd14:22
robertfwrgb> ok; thank you14:24
YeahRightanyone here who could help me with smbmount maybe? i keep getting a mount error (112) : host is down reply while host is perfectly up14:42
TheSheepcheck the firewall14:43
YeahRightok...easy to forget..i check but file sharing should be allowed14:44
YeahRightsheesh...you were right TheSheep..i feel stupid now though the range should be allowed14:46
YeahRightanyway thanks14:46
anadgoudai am setting up the kiosk mode using info in xfce wiki, but the xfdesktop settings don't seem to work14:54
travkinHi to all! My issue: when i'm starting ANY application, my CPU goes up at 100%... In other distros i don't have this issue14:56
anadgoudatravkin: does it happen only at application startup?14:59
anadgoudaAnybody tried the kiosk mode?14:59
travkinanadgouda, yes15:00
travkini also tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu, the same :( tried vesa too..15:00
YeahRightin synaptics manager what does the second column mean? thats the one were some packages have an ubuntu icon in front of their name15:00
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anadgoudatravkin: any information in the logs?15:02
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travkinnope, for example, when I start terminal, in htop i can see that it uses only 10% of cpu, but CPU goes to 100%15:04
travkingoes up*15:04
YeahRightdo you start any flash content by any chance?15:05
YeahRightcause i had the issue too and it was because of flash15:05
YeahRightany browser that might start maybe?15:05
travkinnop15:06
CountDownIs there a version of the 9.10 release for the PPC port that fixes the oversized ISO bug?15:50
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IulianISIhi20:24
IulianISII have a laptop DELL Inspiron 6400 with a ATI X1400 video card.20:24
IulianISII've tried different approaches described on several forums but nothing is working properly. Now i have installed on my laptop the Radeon driver and i have some graphical acceleration but is working slow and the resolution is stucked at 1024x768.20:24
IulianISII booted from the CD loads and everything worked fine and the ATI graphics acceleration worked really well.20:24
IulianISIHow can i make it work like that on my installed version?20:24
likemindeadNot sure, IulianISI. I avoid ATI. :-\20:25
IulianISItx20:26
j0intyhi@ll....I have an IDE CD-RW burner which will detect as a SCSI drive and doesn't work with brasero,xfburn, because he can't detect read/write speed of this drive ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/320271/20:34
FrozenFire[work]Does anyone know of an XFCE panel widget which shows a text entry, to be passed to a command?20:38
FrozenFire[work]Similar to the look of the Verve widget20:38
j0intydoes anyone known a workaround for older CD-RW drive that will not run und sci driver ??20:38
j0inty"und sci" = "under scsi"20:39
FrozenFire[work]Is there a panel plugin similar to xfce-generic-slider, but a text entry like Verve?20:57
wwighello, may xubu run smooth on a p3 500 with 384MB RAM?21:37
Sysii ran 8.04 with 256 and it was smooth, but current release is a bit havier21:38
knomethe ram difference means a lot21:38
knomeprobably it'll run just fine21:38
wwig9.10 is heavier than 8.04?21:38
Sysia bit21:38
wwighow come?21:39
knomewwig, new xfce version, for example21:39
Sysi9.10 still boots faster21:39
knomewwig, new stuff we have to keep up-to-date to keep up with ubuntu21:39
wwigah ok21:39
wwigwhat would you suggest?21:39
wwig8.04 or 9.10?21:39
wwigit should run on an old Matrox g20021:40
knomewwig, 8.04 if you want the smoothest possible21:40
knomewwig, 9.10 if you want to be adventurous ;)21:40
wwig:D21:40
wwigwhich is the most stable?21:40
knomewell, 9.10 comes with lots of fixes and new features21:40
knome8.0421:40
wwigmore than 9.10? ohwow21:41
C00LARR01i would try 9.10 and if you dont like it go to 8.0421:41
wwigactually I run ubu 9.04 on a fast machine btw21:41
wwigok I download both21:41
wwigI will install it on a newbie pc21:41
C00LARR01if you have a usb drive and use unetbootin it is very easy21:41
wwignewbie's pc21:41
wwigI don't21:42
wwig9.10 is more userfriendly than 8.04?21:42
knomewwig, probably yes21:44
knomewwig, though it doesn't have a menu editor21:44
knomewwig, otherwise yes21:44
wwigcause that guy uses only winxp till now21:44
wwighe is a newbie of linux21:44
wwigand he is miffed about viruses21:44
knomewwig, does he need to edit the apps showing in his menu?21:52
wwigno21:52
wwiginternet, a webcam, an lpt printer21:53
wwigand an usb adsl modem21:53
wwigoffice applications like writer21:53
wwigknome,21:54
wwigand porno websites lol21:55
knomehaha21:57
knomeokay21:57
knomehmm.21:57
knomemaybe 9.10 then21:57
knomebe aware that you might need to work with the hardware for a while21:58
wwigyes? why?21:58
wwigcause they are old?21:58
PrebenRhi! going to install Karmic, is the ext4 corruption problems fixed now or should I stick to ext321:59
Sysii've used ext4 for long time happily22:00
knomewwig, no, but because there might not be an open source driver for them, for example22:00
wwigan old epson printer22:01
wwigstylus color 64022:01
wwigand the Matrox g20022:01
wwigand the speedtouch adsl usb22:01
PrebenRSysi, so no problems with large files22:02
Sysino any problems yet22:02
PrebenRok, I'll google a bit more to decide. Thanks!22:05
Krukkhi, just wonder can you help me, i want to install Wine on Xubuntu 9.04 bur the computer with xubuntu is not connected to the internet so can't download it through Add/Remove, I gotta download on the other laptop and copy it, the thing is i'm not sure which version should i download? how can i check it22:08
Krukkhttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html22:08
knomeKrukk, wine is in the ubuntu repositories, you should download it there22:11
jessejazzaHow do folk find the 9.10 version22:19
jessejazzaThe face lift is good but i was more than annoyed to find that they haven't sorted the display resolution22:20
knomejessejazza, there is not much we can do about the display resolution stuff22:22
knomejessejazza, either the fix is in complete ubuntu (or complete X) or nowhere22:22
jessejazzaThing is there was nothing wrong with screens and graphics or displayconfig-gtk. But it is a gnome thing it seems to do away with it. fedora gets it to work okay so it is all down to ubuntu22:24
knomejessejazza, the xubuntu development team can affect only that little to gnome things happening in ubuntu. i'm sorry if we let you down22:36
jessejazzaSorry i don't follow. Do you mean you follow what the ubuntu development team do?22:38
jessejazzadisplayconfig-gtk worked really well and is still available in debian - no need for it to ever have been removed22:39
knomejessejazza, the ubuntu development team works on gnome and tries to make it work as good as possible. sometimes that work affects the xubuntu developers, and we have to fix things to make them work also in xfce/xubuntu. if the ubuntu gnome folks break something gnome-specific, we possibly won't go fixing it, since we have a lot of other things to do22:39
knomeright, well, that sounds like a canonical/ubuntu gnome team decision which we really can't affect22:40
jessejazzaWhich is why i get a little annoyed with some of the u8nnecessary changes they do. I loved ubuntu, Mark Shuttleworth is an immensely enterprising man.22:41
knomejessejazza, i really encourage you to talk about that in somewhere public and let also mark and the ubuntu team know that.22:41
jessejazzaIs the October version meant as a test version prior to the April stable one?22:42
knomejessejazza, no22:43
knomejessejazza, there are LTS releases and there are non-LTS releases, but both are meant to be that stable they can be used withtout problems22:43
knomejessejazza, soem non-LTS releases might be bit worse then others, but that's a thing that just happens, when you have to release in 6 month cycle22:44
knomejessejazza, the LTS version is just getting some EXTRA care22:44
jessejazzaThat is what i thought. But just from experience it seems that the october versions try out new things and April puts right the odd thing that's wrong... as i see it22:45
knomejessejazza, not all of the april versions are LTS22:46
knomejessejazza, that's maybe just coincidence that this has happened22:46
knomean LTS release is only released every 2 years22:47
jessejazzayes i realise that about LTS. But the intermediate April non-lts version is still better [imho] than an october release22:48
knomepure coincidence then :)22:48
knomeor maybe something else, but definitely not especially planned to be like that22:48
jessejazzawhat did you mean by your comment earlier that i should tell M. shuttleworth and others publically22:49
knomewell i mean, they keep doing these decisions you don't like if nobody says "hey, we didn't like that"22:49
jessejazzaok understand... if i put my hand on heart i'd say i still support *buntu 100%. But after using Mepis - ubuntu with all it's staff are way behind a 'one man' job. If he can sort things why can't they22:51
knomeor if you want to be even more recreative "hey, are you sure that was the right decision/thing to do"22:51
jessejazzagood last point22:51
knomejessejazza, well there's the problem. enough people involved -> too much bureaucracy.22:52
knomejessejazza, important things have hit the bureaucracy before and failed and will continue to do so in the future also, if we keep the same governance structure up22:53
jessejazzaAh... oh dear. That's a pity. How much does Mr suttleworth actually RUN the organisation. I gather he lives in London when the rest of canonical is on the Isle of Man22:54
knomejessejazza, he does run it, but it's hard to see the little things that are affected when you run an organization this large, i admit22:54
knomejessejazza, but i think the word should move from mouth to mouth and back to mark that something isn't working22:54
knomepossibly it is, but mark might be reluctant to act differently22:55
knomewho knows22:55
jessejazzaall i can say is that ubuntu introduced me to the world of linux. It has given more than other distros in many ways and i wish them the very best. But sorry some things have really niggled me. I gather the organisation runs at a loss. I can't help feeling that they would be better off producing an annual release well sorted23:04

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