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lukasZensursula: prepare for some not so integrated behaviour00:00
lukasZensursula: on Debian with KDE00:00
larry_laramiesget a mac00:00
Zensursulalet's see. It can't get worse.00:00
lukasZensursula: probably now00:01
lukasnot00:01
lukasbut there has to be a reason00:01
ZensursulaI'm sure. I tested a ppa driver. same behaviour...00:02
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lukasZensursula: okay, next, paste those files, lshw and lspci00:04
lukasit will be much easier00:04
Zensursulain about 15 min I'll be back with some hopefully interesting news and the files...00:07
ZensursulaINTEL 955gM00:07
lukasokay00:08
brbhi i was woundering how can someone shrink an iso file to be able to fit onto a 4.7gig dvd disk???00:15
marcoCIAO00:15
brbhi i was woundering how can someone shrink an iso file to be able to fit onto a 4.7gig dvd disk???00:17
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valentin_смммчя00:35
Zensursulalukas :  Debian + KDE runs just fine. Sound OK  WLAN OK Flash OK 2nd Monitor OK WOW00:56
Zensursulaso I'll leave KUBUNTU on the other partition and will come to it when the problem is officially solved.00:57
Zensursulathe forums are full of these strories...00:58
sayyafhi all I'm new on ubuntu01:23
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m_tadeuhi...I'm trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10....but remotely, using ssh...how can I do this?01:43
CrellHi all.  According to top, my KNetwork manager is taking up 92% of my CPU.  Firefox is taking another 38%, followed by Xorg and various other things.01:44
CrellI'm assuming that is a misread, but KNetwork manager shouldn't even be in the top 10% I imagine.01:44
CrellIs it safe to kill that and restart it, or would that have unwanted side effects?01:44
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andreusgghello02:19
andreusgghola02:19
domingohi everyone im new here02:24
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joe___i think by default i cant connect to my machine via ssh04:13
joe___where do i change that at?04:13
joe___i thought i already added  ALL: LOCAL to /etc/hosts.allow04:14
joe___nothing in hosts.deny04:14
joe___can ping the machine04:14
joe___other machines can even connect to its synergys , just not to ssh04:15
joe___anyone? i know its  a simple fix, but im new to kubuntu04:16
Wolfcastlejoe___: are you sure sshd is running?04:20
joe___not sure checking04:20
joe___nope04:21
joe___thanks, i knew it was something simple04:21
Wolfcastlenot running? then start up sshd and try it04:21
joe___tried, turns out it wasnt installed04:22
joe___so i installed it04:22
joe___and its working fine now...  im retarded04:22
joe___connects very slowly though04:23
dh003ihi all...I'm having a problem with one of my KDE accounts. I can login, but now I can't type! This has happened to me periodically, the keyboard stops responding when logged in as the other user. It is usually fixed by logging out, then logging back in. But no-more. What's going on!!!???04:49
dh003ihello?04:53
joe___i added quite a few apps thru the kpackagekit but it dont think it always adds the icons to the application menu04:55
joe___is there an application finder app or something like that?04:55
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astrrynHow do I completely uninstall a program? The package manager isn't working. It says that wine isn't installed, but wine is still showing up in my applications menu.05:11
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d9500astrryn, open terminal and run sudo aptitude purge wine wine1.2 wine-gecko wine1.2-gecko wine-dev05:15
astrrynty05:15
davidjheinrichcan ANYONE help me with my problem? My KDE session won't recognize input from the keyboard (I can login at KDM though)...until I deleted the ~/.kde file and made it rebuild it. But now I've lost all of my favorites on the start menu, AND EVERYTHING is SLOW. Like windows aren't being accelerated by the radeonhd drivers05:16
d9500astrryn,  then alt+f2, type kemenuedit and hit enter, and find the wine entry in the relevant menu and remove it05:16
astrrynok05:17
davidjheinrichhello?05:19
davidjheinrichanyone know why the hell KDE magically stops responding to my keyboard?05:20
monkey__hi is anyone here that could help me with a sound problem?05:24
stratex#05:28
stratex    /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>05:28
abeastinmehi05:32
abeastinmeeveryone05:32
monkey__:(05:37
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miguelhWhat's it take to get mp3, .avi , mp4 , and so on to work in kubuntu?06:14
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IwonderWhat's it take to get mp3, .avi , mp4 , and so on to work in kubuntu?06:14
brbhow does someone copy a folder into /usr/share/games/stepmania4 and i would like to add a folder called Songs into it, can anyone please help me out???06:46
ordinarydotplesae, anybody knows how to make gtk+ apps not "ugly" when running kde in ubuntu? i laready look at ubuntu forum but i found no clue06:47
TheKroany suggestions on how to debug a VPN connection that doesn't seem to work.  Currently, I click on the VPN connection in the network manager, it says "Activating" for a second or two, and then the "Activating" disappears.07:27
praxidemohello07:37
praxidemoI use gnome destokp, Dou you speak about Kde?, I dont know about stability07:39
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cpetzelhey guys i need some help with a usb netgear wifi  it keeps like reseting and loseing the signal even thogh its a 70% stringth07:53
cpetzelor am i going to have to wait till what looks like bug is fixed07:55
cpetzelhas anyone ran into the same problem ?07:57
EjwgWcjOhas anyone ran into the same problem ?07:58
cpetzelwith a usb netgear wifi  it keeps like reseting and loseing the signal even thogh its a 70% stringth07:58
FloodBotK1!netsplit08:00
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit08:00
ixMBU4ugD!netsplit08:01
ixMBU4ugDnetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/08:01
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FloodBotK3!netsplit08:04
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit08:04
FloodBotK2!netsplit08:04
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit08:04
gunner05does anyone know how to help me with a usb netgear wifi con08:05
FloodBotK1!netsplit08:05
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit08:06
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gunner05I will look in google to see if there is anything i can do ....08:07
fY9ScFMI will look in google to see if there is anything i can do ....08:07
gunner05it would be useful if someone would help me and not just repeat my question08:08
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yofel!ask | gunner0508:09
ubottugunner05: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:09
yofelgunner05: could you state your specific issue? wifi card not recognized/network not seen/connection doesn't finish/whatever ?08:12
orMXwggunner05: could you state your specific issue? wifi card not recognized/network not seen/connection doesn't finish/whatever ?08:12
yofelargh, spambug -.-08:12
yofel*spambot08:12
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gunner05it connects but afetr like 5 min it disconnects and then connects again it make it hard to install stuff08:14
pkKUCup1Pit connects but afetr like 5 min it disconnects and then connects again it make it hard to install stuff08:14
leo__hello08:14
leo__^_^08:14
yofelgunner05: do you get any errors at the end of your dmesg output in a terminal? and what kubuntu version are you using?08:15
leo__do you ask me?!  yofel08:15
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yofelleo__: I asked gunner05 ;)08:15
leo__o sorry08:16
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yofel!hi | leo__08:16
ubottuleo__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!08:16
yofelwelcome anyway :D08:16
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leo__I have poor English skills08:17
gunner05my version is 9.10 it does not output any errors or parts of code that made the problem I been wounding if its a bug in there08:17
yofelleo__: where are your from, there might be a channel in your language08:17
leo__IM from china :-)08:18
leo__what about you?08:18
yofelgermany ;)08:18
leo__Wow08:19
leo__How old are you???08:19
yofelgunner05: hm... I'm don't know much about hardware issues. You could ask again later when the others are up08:20
yofelleo__: me? 2308:20
leo__en08:20
leo__me 2208:20
leo__Can tell me your e-mail ?  yofel08:21
leo__yofel What tools you use chat08:22
gunner05how do i turn off he scroll weel on the side of my laptop mouse? becuse there is no option in the mouse settings08:22
yofelleo__: this is getting off topic, so...08:24
yofel!ot08:24
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:24
yofeland !cn08:24
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ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk08:24
gunner05oh and about my network problem the usb netgear model is  wnda310008:26
leo__so^Thank you08:26
leo__Come here to learn English is not bad  o(∩_∩)o...08:27
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contrastGreets, everyone. Anyone here know if there's a way to disable the hover-when-near effect on autohidden docks? It doesn't play well with Compiz at all.08:35
gunner05have you tryed disabaling that effect contrast?08:37
contrastgunner05: Erm, no. That's kinda what I'm asking how to do. ;)08:38
vivekhello08:40
gunner05k go to your system settings and then click on desktop then you will sceen edge08:40
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gunner05there is also desktop effects that may solve the problem too08:42
contrastgunner05: That's not what I'm talking about, but thanks anyway...08:42
vivekcan any buddy tell me how to increases speed of my internet in linux08:42
contrastgunner05: I'm referring to the little glow that pops up to let you know you're near a hidden panel.08:43
gunner05oh that i have been trying to get rid of that my self no luck though08:44
gunner05sorry :(08:44
vivekbye08:45
contrastgunner05: Do you use Compiz?08:48
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Lord_DeviI have this interesting new bug on my 9.10 kubuntu install. My slideshow'ing backgrounds sometimes display the wallpaper with an intense blur. But not always, sometimes the same wallpaper will come back up again, but be in focus. Anyone have any idea what this might be?08:59
astrrynmaybe it has something to do with the resolution of the image files you are displaying?09:00
Lord_DeviWell some DO require some scaling and cropping. But why would they sometimes be in focus, and then other times not be. Seems to me if it was a problem with the image itself, it would always be out of focus. =/09:01
astrrynwell: maybe the slideshow program requires all images to be the same resolution? Sorry that I can't be of more help.09:02
astrrynI installed 9.10 for a day; then uninstalled when I realized that it was causing my wi-fi to go bonkers.09:02
astrrynI'm running 9.0409:02
Lord_DeviNo problem astrryn. I'm just perplexed that it seems to be only me. I couldn't find a bug about it on launchpad. *sigh* Always something new with Kubuntu's KDE!! But I love it so much :(09:03
Tm_Tastrryn: hmm, it shouldn't cause such thing, what was the problem exactly?09:03
ghostcubeastrryn: you can try wicd on karmic09:03
astrrynmy wi-fi kept disconnecting.09:03
astrrynas in every 5 minutes.09:03
ghostcubenvidia chipset ?09:03
Lord_DeviYou can also use gnome's network manager just fine in KDE as well. Many other distro's do that because KDE's is known to be wonky09:03
astrrynif I was dl'ing a torrent it wouldn't give me a problem until I opened up firefox09:03
Lord_DeviI got lucky, my kde network-manager works fine for me. But I know lots of others claim problems with it.09:04
ghostcubewicd is the best if no hidden ssids09:04
ghostcubeeven for wired lan09:04
astrrynI'm new to linux in general09:04
astrryna few weeks ago I purged my lovely brand new laptop of windows, and installed ubuntu.09:05
astrryna lot of people suggested it to me as a good distro for a beginner.09:05
astrrynand I really do like it a lot.09:05
Lord_DeviYeah you can't get more brainless than Ubuntu, that's for damn sure. It's great for people who are curious or want to cross over.09:06
Lord_DeviKubuntu is a different beast though. ;) it's a bit more advanced.09:07
astrrynI'm in the process of learning to program as well. I'm starting with python. So far it has been relatively kind to me.09:07
astrrynlearning the syntax isn't difficult, however my problem solving skills need work.09:08
Lord_DeviHehe.. yeah. I'm not a good programmer because I struggle with some of those logistical problem solving issues.09:13
devilsadvocate_Lord_Devi, you might have thumbnails of the images in the folder or some such thing09:15
Lord_Devihey devil!! Yeah I hadn't thought to check for that!09:15
Lord_DeviHah, i bet you figured it out.. *runs to check*09:16
Lord_DeviYup! There is a .thumbcache directory in my wallpaper directories.09:19
Lord_DeviOk well I bet that's it. Now how the heck do I fix it. lol09:19
Lord_DeviDoesn't even make sense to me KDE would look for images in a .hidden directory..09:19
Tm_TLord_Devi: those thumbnails are for Dolphin and friends09:20
Lord_DeviYeah well that's why I won't just delete the .thumbcache directory. Dolphin is using it. But my wallpaper slideshow shouldn't!09:21
Tm_TLord_Devi: it does? that's weird09:21
FloodBotK1!netsplit09:33
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:33
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devilsadvocate_Lord_Devi, i have no thumbcache folder anywhere.09:37
Lord_Devidevilsadvocate_: No? Hrm.. perhaps it's a gnome thing then? I did use that for a while...09:38
Tm_TLord_Devi: possible, yes09:39
Tm_TLord_Devi: actually, now that you mention it... I think Dolphin and others save thumbnails to totally different place, so yes09:40
Lord_DeviYeah well that makes sense to me! Put it in some other directory.. don't polute my collections with extra data! :(09:41
Lord_DeviYup yup! You are right Tm_T. I got rid of that directory, and can't seem to get kde to recreate it - so you have to be correct about that.09:42
Lord_DeviThanks guys. I appreciate it09:42
yamokidzu-ithello how prevent high cpu use on kde?09:42
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: is it high cpu all the time?09:42
yamokidzu-ityes09:43
Lord_Devione more question if anyone knows... Is there a way to get my laptops touchpad in KDE to disable tap-to-click, enable the horizontal scroll on it, and possibly turn it off altogether if I am typing?09:43
Lord_DeviGnome has that, and it's wierding me out KDE doesn't seem to :(09:43
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: you might like to check what is taking cpu09:43
Tm_TLord_Devi: does gnome use some particular app for that?09:44
Lord_DeviIt's just under "Mouse" in it's control panel. But I was kind of hoping there might be an app I could install to duplicate that.09:44
yamokidzu-itcould it be the cause I use gnome system monitor instead of ksys?09:44
yamokidzu-it*ksysguard09:45
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: look what it tells you about cpu usage09:46
yamokidzu-itnow it's Xorg09:46
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: you have desktopeffects enabled?09:47
yamokidzu-itdon't know09:47
yamokidzu-itI choosed medium performance...09:48
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: in where?09:48
yamokidzu-itin first wizard window09:48
Tm_Tok09:48
yamokidzu-ithow can re-use it?09:48
yamokidzu-itthe most used process are xorg and gnome-sys-mon09:49
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: try this keyboard shortcut if it makes any difference: alt+shift+F1209:49
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: gnome-sys-mon has what kind of cpu percentage?09:49
yamokidzu-it3-40 %09:50
Tm_Theh, close it, launch Konsole and run "top" in it09:51
Tm_Tor, install htop and try that in konsole09:51
yamokidzu-ithelp receiving lots of bounce attack messages!!!09:51
yamokidzu-itok09:51
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: ignore those messages09:51
yamokidzu-itok09:51
Tm_Tyamokidzu-it: just don't try receive any files (:09:52
yamokidzu-itok thx09:56
Lord_Devibtw, to answer my own question. The tool, gpointing-device-settings allowed me to configure my touch pad properly.10:01
Tm_TLord_Devi: good to hear (:10:01
Lord_DeviMakes me very happy! Getting my shiny KDE desktop working just the way I like now..10:02
Lord_DeviNow if only I could run different plasmoids on different desktops, and had a kopete contacts plasmoid I'd be set! =)10:02
Tm_TLord_Devi: latter is coming10:03
Lord_DeviYeah I saw on kde brainstorm that someone is apparently working on that. Very much looking foreward to that one.10:04
Tm_TLord_Devi: it's working (almost) fine already (:10:04
Lord_Devihrm. I don't suppose that's in the ubuntu repos yet? I see a package called plasma-runner-kopete.. could that be it?10:06
Lord_DeviOh no no, sorry my bad. It's not10:08
KoliaLord_Devi: you could run different plasmoids on different desktop already no?10:08
Koliaset them in different activity, and activate the option to tie the activities to desktops.10:09
Lord_DeviOh yeah? Actually "activities" are new to me. I had just read about them yesterday for the first time..10:10
KoliaTm_T: correct me if i'm wrong --^10:10
KoliaLord_Devi: zoom out, then "configure plasma" and check "different activity for each desktop"10:11
Koliathen zoom in back and try to add plasmoid on different desktop10:11
Lord_DeviOh yeah!10:11
Lord_DeviHey fething awesome.10:12
KoliaRock'n Roll :)10:12
KoliaLord_Devi: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/HowTo#HowTo   you can find there a lot of screencast for lots of features of plasma.10:13
Lord_DeviVery nice thanks Kolia!10:14
Lord_DeviKDE has so many features, but all the cool stuff is kind of tucked away to be found and sought out..10:15
Lord_DeviVery helpfull btw fellas, I appreciate it all. =)10:18
mvalviarHi, cound anyone help me connect to ICQ in kopete?10:19
Tm_TKolia: correct10:20
mvalviaror at least tell me where to read about it. I can't find it on google.10:22
Lord_DeviHrmm... Haven't used ICQ in years and years...10:23
Lord_DeviDon't you just go to Configure->Accounts->Add Account->ICQ Then enter your UIN and password?10:24
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Lord_DeviHrm need to reboot... brb10:28
hollihi i am downloading the Penumbra Demo (http://www.penumbragame.com). the linux version is a .sh file of 113MB size.10:28
hollii'm not sure what to do with it.10:28
hollii hopr it's not a shell script =)10:28
mvalviarLord_Devi: I did that. But it never connects. I just kept on saying connecting10:29
llutzholli: most likely it is, with embedded binary. chmod +x     it and run10:29
holli3 minutes and i'll know10:33
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hollidarn, the game runs but i dont see any level graphics.10:56
hollieven though i use latest drivers10:56
Tm_Tholli: perhaps it should be launched from its path?11:02
hollii did11:02
hollicd /user/games/penumbra11:02
holli./penumbrademo11:03
Tm_Tinteresting11:03
hollibut i know my graphics is not optimal11:03
Tm_Tholli: you have desktop effects on?11:03
hollibefor 9,10 plasma did not work at all11:03
holliyeah11:03
Tm_Tholli: hit alt-shift-F12 to disable it temporarily and try run it again11:04
Tm_Trun it as the game11:04
hollinope. daoen't help11:06
holli*doesn't11:06
Tm_Thmh, then it might be that your card just doesn't have some capability11:06
hollibut i think it loaded faster11:06
Tm_TOR you need some wonky settings for X11:06
holliyít's a R500 thinkpad11:06
Tm_Thmm, that should be well enough I think11:07
holliand my business machine anyway. i was just hoping i could get a litte game other than FrozenBubble =)11:07
Tm_Tholli: there's always kde-games11:08
hollibut, many thx for your effort11:08
Tm_Tnp11:08
hollikde games, rofl11:08
hollinothing to kill xD11:09
Tm_Tholli: or, Teeworlds if you like some quick multiplayer action11:09
Tm_Tanyway, this doesn't have much to do kubuntu anymore (:11:10
hollimmh. ./teeworlds .... 4b0284f1][gfx]: unable to set video mode: OpenGL not available11:12
hollithere we have it11:12
Tm_Tholli: aww, shame11:13
holliyupp. penumbra is opengl based too11:14
hollistill that pinpointed the problem. /me goes looking into some settings11:15
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sayyafany one who know how to connect to internet with dialup bluetooth with phone in ubuntu 9.04?11:28
sayyafhelp me11:28
tsimpsonsayyaf: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup11:31
sayyaftsimpson: ok thank u11:34
morenosant'antoniooo11:37
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corigo2How can I found out which DNS servers I'm currently using? and further more, how can I change them?11:39
tsimpsoncorigo2: it's stored in /etc/resolv.conf11:39
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tsimpsonyou can edit that file by changing the "nameserver ..." parts11:41
yofelcorigo2: to change them edit your network manager profile if you use NM11:41
yofelcorigo2: NM overwrites /etc/resolv.conf11:41
tsimpsonno, nm edits it11:41
tsimpsonwell, dhcp overwrites it11:42
tsimpsonand nm edits that, via dhcp11:42
yofeltsimpson: ok, didn't know that11:42
tsimpsonyofel: in my mind it's simple, but I realized when trying to explain it, that it's a complex relationship between them11:43
corigo2Hmm. well I edited it by NM and now my resolvl.conf is blank so I have no idea what DNS I'm now using11:44
corigo2Ok, bad pathing. file is there, but certainly hasn't updated since I edited with NM. Does it matter how many nameservers are entered? Do they have to be made unique somehow?11:45
tsimpsonthere should be a max of 3 name servers usually11:46
tsimpsonand they should be IP addresses11:47
tsimpsonthat's about it11:47
corigo2but do they need to be prioritised, or numbered, or anything like that?11:47
tsimpsonno, the ones mentioned first will get used first11:48
tsimpsonthey are just like "nameserver 123.123.123.123", one per line11:48
yofelcorigo2: you DID reconnect after editing your NM profile?11:50
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amichairsince upgrading to karmic, the screensaver and/or monitor power off never activates, any ideas?12:04
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petsoundsHi.. i have problem with Kubuntu Karmic. here's the screenshot http://imagebin.org/71964 . i really can't understand why this is happening because i never have this problem in the previous release of kubuntu and i hope anybody here can help me. thank you12:11
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amichairsince upgrading to karmic, the screensaver and/or monitor power off never activates, any ideas?13:53
BluesKajHey folks13:59
amichairBluesKaj: hey BluesKaj, long time :-)13:59
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BluesKajhi  amichair , ok now I recall , amik14:00
morenoblueskaj14:01
BluesKajhi moreno14:01
morenoinculidioca14:01
morenohow are you?14:02
BluesKaji'm ok14:02
amichairpretty quiet here last few days14:03
morenotiram annaz14:03
BluesKajquiet because it seems kubuntu karmic is quite stable and has fewer issues than prvious releases14:16
BluesKajwhere as gome ubuntu seems busier than ever14:16
BluesKajgnome rather14:20
amichairI've done some bug fixing the past couple of weeks, really want to see the LTS be rock-solid14:20
amichairit looks like karmic is pretty close, and with kde 4.4 the remaining kinks should hopefully be ironed out14:21
jimmy51_i've got an i7 with 8GB of DDR3, 500 GB HDD.  what should my swap size be, 16 GB?14:23
amichairjimmy51_: following a general rule of thumb for desktops, yes, unless u have some specific special scenario14:26
somekoolanyone got subversion working with kwallet under Kubuntu 9.10 ?14:29
BluesKajthe LTS lucid alpha will be out for testing on Dec 10 or so . I t should be interesting what they do with agenda driven apps like pulseaudio , which have no business mucking the sound up for simple setups. I guess it's ok for ppl who want surround sound on their pc , but personally I don't think it should be default.14:33
jimmy51_amichair: thanks14:35
BluesKajjimmy51_, 16G for swap is overkill , especially with 8G of ram14:37
jimmy51_i set it for 8GB14:37
BluesKajstill a waste :)14:38
jimmy51_hehe14:38
BluesKajbut it's your space14:38
amichairyes, it might be, depending on what u do. but if u have disk space to spare, it shouldn't matter (bluesKag: is that last part right?)14:38
Tm_Tamichair: yep14:39
amichairBluesKaj: can having too much temp space hurt anything, if u have the disk space?14:39
BluesKajthe rule of thumb goes out the window once 4G Ram is reched14:39
Tm_Tamichair: swap is not temp btw14:39
jimmy51_i've got two 500GB HDD's and pretty much unlimited storage available on the network so 8GB is fine.  I'll be running at least one VM 24x7 in addition to the host environment so i figure swap is a good idea14:39
amichairTm_T: sorry, meant swap14:39
amichairdoesn't that sound a bit like '640k should be enough for anyone?' :-)14:39
BluesKajno it won't hurt , with 8G ram, swap will prolly be used very little,if at all14:39
amichairmaybe he'll want to do heavy video/image processing down the line, or run several virtual machines, etc...14:40
amichairjimmy51_: but I think u know the answer for ur needs just as well as anyone here :-)14:42
jimmy51_yeah14:42
jimmy51_i like asking in here... you get several answers with reasoning for each one14:42
jimmy51_and then make a better decision than guessing14:42
amichairjimmy51_: yeah, it's a great place to learn all sorts of things that are good to know :-)14:43
BluesKajVMs are a different story , I have little experience with them and how they use memory14:43
amichairI use virtualbox, which is great. u can setup how much memory u want for each vm. with enough ram, it holds it all in memory of course14:44
BluesKajI'm prolly just envious ..still running a 4yrold pc with 2G Ram and a 160G hdd14:44
jimmy51_doh14:44
amichairBluesKaj: I just upgraded from my p4/1g not that long ago :-)14:44
BluesKajand will be for a while14:44
yofelBluesKaj: the OS in the vm needs RAM like every other OS, so if you tell the VM to virtualize 2GB RAM you'll have -2GB RAM available for the OS you're running the VM on (swap counts as RAM)14:45
jimmy51_BluesKaj: i was using the same workstation i had when i started here.  i have some toolsets that conflict with each other, so the solution was VM's.  this thing was chugging so bad i finally fired a note to my boss14:45
jimmy51_a week later, a core i7 system showed up in my office :)14:45
amichairBluesKaj: with today's prices and better power consumption (and p4's terrible power consumption), it might be worth upgrading... not to mention your time14:45
BluesKajthanks yofel14:46
ewoernerhi14:47
ewoernerwhy does the kubuntu installer feel slow as hell?14:47
amichairewoerner: how so?14:48
BluesKajamichair, I'm using an amd64, 2ghz cpu with ondemand stepping so it's not as zippy as some but it's ok for my needs , just using it at home and i'm retired so there's no real workload on it most of the time14:48
ewoerneramichair: it takes minutes switching from one page of the installer to the next, password input lags like 5 seconds, ...14:48
amichairBluesKaj: oh, that's not as old as I figured :-)14:49
ewoernerthe actual install does not seem to inhibit that problem14:49
amichairewoerner: what r u installing from? livecd? usb?14:49
ewoernersd card14:49
ewoernerfeels like something is stealing all cpu time14:49
amichairewoerner: maybe it has to do with the sd card access?14:50
ewoerneramichair: no, that shouldn't have any influence on password editing14:51
BluesKajewoerner, a sd card accessing thru the buss can be really slow ...just think about copying pics and from them , a 700mb file is going to take a while14:52
amichairewoerner: true, unless it's doing disk i/o in the background. I find my desktop can crawl to a halt with lots of disk activity even on a HD, so a slow sd card might do the same14:52
amichairewoerner: r u installing on a netbook?14:53
ewoerneramichair: not exactly14:53
ewoerneran eee box14:53
amichairewoerner: if it has usb input and u have a free flash stick, you can try making it bootable and installing from there14:54
ewoerneri'll recheck with a card reader later so that i can check sd card activity14:54
amichairewoerner: karmic has a built-in usb disk creator in the menus, very convenient14:54
ewoerneramichair: yeah, i already used that one for creating the sd card14:55
ewoerneri don't have any usb stick at hand atm14:55
starwolfman if bitbee wreks  this any more14:55
amichairewoerner: or maybe via network cable (never tried that though)14:55
jimmy51_why does the hardware driver panel have two offereings for nvidia, 173 and 185... with 185 recommended but 173 selected?14:56
amichairewoerner: or, just let it conitnue as slowly as it is... once it's installed locally on a hd, it should be ok14:56
ewoerneramichair: yeah, as i said, it looks like it's only the installer interface14:57
ewoernerthe actual installation seems to be quite fast14:57
starwolfdoes anyone knwo how the heck you gt bitlbee to run?14:57
amichairjimmy51_: I think some real old models need 173 and are no longer supported in 185, so u have the option there14:57
starwolfinstalled configured and tweeked via ubunut page no luck14:57
jimmy51_amichair: ah, that makes sense.  thanks.14:57
amichairjimmy51_: I personally use the new 190s off nvidia site, work great :-)14:58
starwolf?14:59
amichairsince upgrading to karmic, the screensaver and/or monitor power off never activates, any ideas?15:03
SunlessHaloyo15:04
SunlessHalousing Kubuntu Karmic amd64, fresh install... some plasma applets are fucking up...15:04
amichairSunlessHalo: did u run and update/upgrade after the fresh install?15:05
SunlessHaloI've created a simple panel for storing application launcher icons, some 3 separators included... these objects swap their positions on the panel arbitrarily15:06
ghostcubeSunlessHalo: printer applet ?15:06
SunlessHaloghostcube: hello sir ;)15:06
ghostcubehi :)15:06
ghostcubeSunlessHalo: karmic fresh install is buggy15:07
ghostcube:)15:07
BluesKajamichair, my scrnsaver activates but runs only for 20 mins or so , but I have the power management devil turned off sinc e this isn't alaptop15:07
SunlessHalowell, i've installed RC and since then installed all official updates15:07
ghostcubemaybe try to get the kde 4.3.3 release and the packages from the proposed repositories15:07
ghostcube:)15:07
ghostcube4.3.3 is in ppa15:07
amichairBluesKaj: I've always had screen saver, and a while later power off. now I wake up in the morning and the screen is on, always15:07
SunlessHaloeven applets on dashboard sometimes move or resize by themselves15:08
ghostcubehttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.315:08
amichairghostcube: aren't a bunch of ppl having trouble with 4.3.3 as well?15:08
ghostcubeand open the karmic-proposed repo15:08
ghostcubeamichair: works better than 4.3.215:08
ghostcubefor me15:08
BluesKajno probs here with 4.3.3 so far15:08
amichairghostcube: ok... just remember hearing ppl here want to downgrade back to 4.3.215:09
ghostcubeprinter applet keeps crashing for me BluesKaj15:09
SunlessHaloand, what I've realized recently, when clicking on the clock instance, instead of normal calendar applet, a calendar applet appended with another one, called "today", not controlable, is opened15:09
BluesKajthe blame is misdirected I think15:09
amichairmaybe I'll take a look at printer applet bugs... it's are self-deved by kubuntu right?15:10
BluesKajprinter applet ?15:10
ghostcubeyeah doesnt bother it you ?15:10
D-coyjo la m4v :P15:10
BluesKajI don't even have one15:10
ghostcubesure :D dpkg -l *printer*15:10
ghostcubeheh15:10
SunlessHaloalso, any advice for me?15:11
ghostcubeamichair: i think so yes15:11
ghostcubeSunlessHalo: try to upgrade or wait15:11
ghostcubeits buggy for all i know oso far :D15:11
ghostcubemy webcam works one day one day it doesnt15:11
ghostcubeand no one knows why15:11
ghostcubelol15:11
SunlessHalowell, the calendar oddity appeared only on today...15:12
ghostcubeo.o15:12
ghostcubedaily regressions are bad15:12
ghostcubelol15:12
BluesKajghostcube, if i need to print something , i just click on file ...I delete seldom used icons in the panel anyway15:14
ghostcubeBluesKaj: nope you cant use this applet15:14
ghostcubeit appears if you print or it configgs in systemsettings15:15
ghostcube:)15:15
ghostcubeits not an widget15:15
BluesKajin system settings ?15:15
ghostcubei dont even know what it does exactly15:15
ghostcubei always do my things in cups web frontend15:15
BluesKajit's for configuring your printer  ...are you on karmic ?15:16
franyI've just connected my newly bought lcd screen to my laptop, but it turns black after only a few seconds. It's connected via VGA. I've restarted both X and the entire system to no avail.15:19
franyaccording to xrandr the output resolution is as desired (1920x1200) and in the short timespan after activating the screen or changing the configuration it seems okay (but then it turns itself off before I even can check the monitor-menu)15:20
SunlessHalobitte was soll ich mit dem kallender applet denn machen?15:21
franyany pointers to what might be wrong here?15:21
SunlessHalough.. sry.. pls any advice with the calendar applet?15:21
BluesKajSunlessHalo, are you using the clock applet ?15:23
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SunlessHalocorrect15:23
BluesKajor widget?15:23
SunlessHaloehm15:23
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SunlessHalowidget15:23
amichairhmm... I just noticed a 'Today' widget on the bottom of the calendar too... strange15:24
SunlessHaloboth the default system one (digital one, on the tray), and the SVG themable analog one too15:24
BluesKajI'm using the digital clock widget which also displays the day and date , if that's what you guys mean by the "calendar"15:25
SunlessHalowhereas the calendar-only applet doesn't include the "today" stuff15:26
amichairBluesKaj: the regular taksbar clock, when clicked, opens up a calendar. below the bottom of the calendar tehre's an attached 'Today' section with nothing in it, that can be dragged separately, not sure what it does, and never seen it before15:26
SunlessHaloif I tried to detach it, the settings menu was called "collection settings" with only shortcut configurable...15:27
amichairmaybe it's supposed to be integration with scheduling apps or something, but it sure looks strange when empty15:27
amichairclicking on the little icon near 'today' expands/extracts a bit... I think it's supposed to be filled in with events15:28
SunlessHaloyeah15:29
SunlessHaloclicking on a day used to open the Kalendar program15:29
SunlessHalonow, it does nothing...15:30
BluesKajamichair, dunno what you mean , show me your's and ai'll show you mine http://imagebin.ca/view/0jRNZpt.html15:30
peabodyugh this is retarded.. how can I manually create a default wireless profile in /etc/default or something so my home wireless network connects automatically on boot?15:30
peabodyRight now I have to delete the connection, create the connection and reconnect every boot and it's retaded15:30
BluesKajpeabody, network manager ?15:31
peabody]No network manager is broken15:31
BluesKaj!info wicd15:31
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2464 kB15:31
peabodyplus, it doesn't create a system connection, it creates a per user connection15:31
bradpitti don't know why i have black screen after reboot :(15:32
peabodyI don't want a GUI to pick a wireless network15:32
SunlessHaloand, as I say, the separate calendar widget doesn't create the today fuck15:32
peabodyI want to edit /etc/network/interfaces or something to write in my default home network15:32
BluesKajpeabody, perhaps a solution for you is to configure /etc/network/interfaces to include nameservers and IPs for your pc and gateway15:33
peabodyso when I boot up, and don't log in, it will connect to my wireless network15:33
SunlessHaloBluesKaj: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/657563/Pictures/plocha1.png15:33
SunlessHaloDnes means Today in Slovak :)15:34
BluesKajpeabody, I use  /etc/network/interfaces , but not as wifi .. I think the wifi is bit more labour intensive to setup correctly15:34
bradpittanybody here have solution for my black screen right after kdm logon ?15:34
amichairBluesKaj: http://imagebin.ca/view/gi1YycHq.html15:35
amichairbradpitt: completely black? no mouse pointer? alt-f2 shows nothing? etc.?15:37
bradpittamichair : no, i can see mouse pointer and alt-f2 .15:38
SunlessHalobradpitt: using KWin?15:39
amichairbradpitt: maybe try copying your ~.kde folder to ~.kde.bak, then login (u can do this via ctrl-alt-f2 before login), then login again and it will auto-generate a default desktop15:39
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emenhello guys15:40
SunlessHaloi'd definitely start with disabling kwin15:40
amichairbradpitt: I'll rephrase: ctrl-alt-f2 takes u to console, ctrl-alt-f7 back to gui. do this at the login screen15:40
emenI'd like to ask a question if anyone got a moment15:40
bradpittSunlessHalo : im sorry im new to kde, this is my first time using kde. so i dont know what is Kwin. but it's a fresh install, that blackscreen comes after i reboot my computer during installation of nvidia 185 driver15:40
BluesKajamichair, hmm I can't drag my calendar anywhere , it's stuck there15:40
BluesKajamichair, http://imagebin.ca/view/F8BVg2R.html15:40
amichair!ask | emen15:40
ubottuemen: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:40
geniiFrom gui->console you need the ctrl with alt-FunctionKey# for console->gui just alt-f715:41
amichairBluesKaj: I can drag each part (calendar or today) separately from the title (cursor turns into a hand)15:41
emenI got kubuntu on VMware and I'd like to connect using winscp, but host refuses, it also refuses from within (ssh username@localhost)15:42
SunlessHalobradpitt: have you enabled the special (composition) window effects such as desktop wall/cube, window flipping, opacity ftw15:42
amichairgenii: good to know, though for consistency it's easier to remember and say ctrl-alt-fn always :-)15:43
bradpittamichair : and what you mean by that is i have to press ctrl-alt-f7 in every login? can i just fix it permanently?15:43
amichairemen: did u install an ssh daemon in kubuntu?15:43
BluesKajamichair, ok got it , didn't see that before , one has to choose the calendar section15:44
amichairbradpitt: no, this is just a test to see if a freshly generated kde settings solves the problem. but since u say it occurred right after rebooting for a video driver change, then it's probably because of that :-)15:44
emenamichair: lemme check, mindlessly assumed that if I got ssh available, service should be there too15:44
SunlessHalobradpitt: amichair's point is that, if you remove the KDE settings folder (or copy it somewhere else for backup), it will return to the default state and generate it anew15:45
SunlessHalobradpitt: since the folders are in use when KDE is on, you have to do it from the console tty before you fire the KDE15:46
amichairbradpitt: what graphics card do you have?15:46
bradpittok i think i get it. kde folder in /home?15:46
bradpittamichair : nvidia 7200gs15:46
amichairBluesKaj: I have no issue with the calendar, just notices the strange 'today' panel after SunlessHalo mentioned it... don't see it in ur screenshot15:47
bradpittSunlessHalo : im sorry what is tty?15:47
emenamichair: apparently it wasnt installed, my bad thx :)15:47
amichairemen: cheers :-)15:47
SunlessHalobradpitt: well, a console that is running on background... on TTY7, all the graphics and also KDE is running on15:48
amichairbradpitt: just hit ctrl-alt-f2 and you'll see what it means :-) (and ctrl-alt-f7 to return)15:48
SunlessHaloalso when kwm starts, you switch by pressing ctrl+alt+F2 to open tty2 with a blank console... if you press ctrl+alt+F7, you get back to the tty7 with your desktop environment running15:49
SunlessHaloor, you may choose the xterm session instead of doing that in tty...15:50
amichairso, anyone have any idea why my screen saver/power ain't working?15:50
SunlessHaloBluesKaj: realize that your calendar applet also has got some weird lining on its top :P15:51
BluesKajSunlessHalo , yeah but I'm not worried ..it works :)15:52
BluesKajbradpitt, did you install the nvidia-glx-185 driver separately or are you using the default?15:54
bhabalinuxMy keyboard is disabled as soon as I log into Kubuntu 9.10 from today. Is there anyone who could help me!15:57
bhabalinuxMy keyboard is disabled as soon as I log into Kubuntu 9.10 from today. Is there anyone who could help me!15:58
bhabalinuxI can enter my username and password15:58
SunlessHaloBluesKaj: i suppose he's either confused looking on tty2, or has already hard-reset :D15:58
bhabalinuxand after that I can't type anything15:58
BluesKaj!patience | bhabalinux15:59
ubottubhabalinux: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait.15:59
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jimmy51_i'm on a fresh 9.10 install.  I have a microsoft wireless/optical mouse 5000.  it has significant lag and is bothering me.  is this a problem with wireless mice in general, or this particular one?16:02
BluesKaj!bluez | jimmy51_16:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bluez16:03
BluesKaj!bluetooth16:03
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup16:03
meitnerium!de16:04
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.16:04
jimmy51_hmm... it's not bluetooth16:04
jimmy51_it's a RF deal with it's own USB dongle16:04
amichairjimmy51_: I would think that the computer sees just a usb mouse, so the delay is probably inherent in the wireless kit (just a guess)16:06
BluesKajdon't see point of wifi mice anyway16:07
anoneemousehi... I just installed kubuntu to its own partition and now when I reboot I get a grub error(unknown partition) and a grub rescue menu16:07
anoneemousei installed 9.10 from a usb flash drive16:07
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noaXessi have allways the same problem, if i listen any sound/video or effect, the audio output has a delay at the beginning.. but then all is fine.. any idea?16:09
emilyygood evening.. i just installed kubuntu karmic. and somehow it failed at booting process and i don't see grub screen. how can i fix it? merci16:11
anoneemouseemilyy: do you get a grub error?16:12
emilyyanoneemouse : after " Grub Loading.. " it doesn't show usplash only _ blinking16:15
skandehi everibody16:15
anoneemouseoh :/ im getting a grub error... just thought maybe we had the same problem16:15
SunlessHaloseems like leaving part...16:16
SunlessHalo!bye | All16:16
ubottuAll: Au revoir!16:16
skandewhat "cat /dev/kmem" print ???16:16
skandesorry16:16
skande/dev/mem16:16
Originooohey, (where/how) can i set bitrate of Lame(mp3) in k3b?16:17
Originoooi habe always output with 128kbit16:17
Originooohave ;)16:17
skande???16:19
skande...-_________-16:19
skandehey is everybodi here ??16:19
Originoooshould i join k3b for answers?16:19
jimmy51_amichair, BluesKaj: eh, the point is the tower is annoyingly far away from the front of the desk16:23
noaXesshas anyone a hint how i can fix my sound problem?16:23
skandehey16:27
skandecan somebdy answer me16:28
skandehey guys !!16:28
anoneemousehi skande16:29
skandehi16:29
anoneemousedo you want to know what someone elses devmem prints?16:29
skandeyes16:30
skandethankxxx16:30
anoneemousemine prints a whole bunch of gobledygook16:30
anoneemousewhich i guess is to be expected16:30
skandeyes but whats it ?16:31
skandethe kernel memory ??16:31
skandei search to modify syscalls16:32
anoneemouseman mem16:32
skandebut i havent16:32
skandethe capability16:32
skandeCAP_SYS_MODULE16:32
skandeso i cant write16:32
skandea module which can do that16:32
anoneemouseyou mean you want to write to /dev/mem?16:33
skandeyyessssssssssss16:33
anoneemousei dont know much about low level programming... but did you try write()?16:34
skandeso how do i do16:34
anoneemousewhat do you want to accomplish, maybe there is a higher level api that can help16:35
skandethats not the problem16:35
skandelisten i ll explain16:35
skandetou16:35
skandeyou16:35
anoneemouseok :)16:35
skandedo u know16:35
skandewhat the syscalls are ??16:36
tsimpson!enter16:36
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:36
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tsimpsonsyscalls are calls to kernel functions, ie those which execute in kernel-space rather than user-space16:36
macoskande: um these are programming questions, not "how do i use kubuntu" questions16:36
tsimpsonwhich is a little offtopic16:36
skandeyes16:37
anoneemousenope sorry i dont know linux programming, but afaik they should all be in the man pages16:37
skandeah ok16:37
macoskande: you may want to look into the Kernel Newbies group if you want to learn to hack the kernel16:37
skandeso you cant help me (anonemous)16:37
skandeok16:37
anoneemousenope not really...16:37
tsimpsonas a clue, you should never, ever, ever, ever, EVER! need to write to /dev/mem16:37
tsimpsonever.16:38
anoneemousemaybe he wants to write a virus for linux tsimpson :P16:38
skandeno16:38
skandei want to write a keylogger16:38
tsimpsoneww16:38
skandewhitout16:38
tsimpsonbut you still don't need to write to /dev/mem16:38
skanderecompile the kernel16:39
BluesKajsounds like some gave bad  advice ..." a little knowledge is a dangerous thing " sometimes16:39
skandei haven't the capability CAP_SYSMODULE16:39
tsimpson!info lkl16:39
ubottulkl (source: lkl): userspace keylogger for x86 architecture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (karmic), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)16:39
tsimpsoneither use that, or download the source to see how they do it16:39
macoskande: really, this is offtopic16:39
skandewhere is the topic for kernel's hacking16:40
skande??16:40
skande(this my first time whit irc)16:40
tsimpsonsee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel16:40
skande1. lkl don't work for my laprop16:40
tsimpsonalso try ##linux16:40
skande2. i want to write a keylogger bymyself16:41
jimmy51_i'm impressed.  fresh install of 9.10 required pretty much no tweaking for everything to work correctly.  hooray!16:41
skandenot dowloading one16:41
skandethankxxxxx16:41
kgeeki have a prob i m getting logged out many times automtically ..16:41
tsimpsonskande: try ##linux or #ubuntu-kernel16:42
skandethanksss16:42
macoi dont think #ubuntu-kernel is the place for that16:42
macothats for people working *on* ubuntu's default kernel. not for people wanting to learn how to break it :P16:42
skandeok So ##linux ;)16:43
macoskande: you want #kernelnewbie on irc.oftc.net16:44
kaddi!seen ign0ramus16:44
ubottuI have no seen command16:44
kostaheloo16:45
kaddihelo16:45
skandeah yeah good idea16:46
skandei will try16:46
SiVA_I installed xfsprogs, but when I do: "modprobe xfs" I get "FATAL: Module xfs not found"16:47
kgeekany one there16:49
kgeekhelp me with my problem!16:49
BluesKaj!ask | kgeek16:53
ubottukgeek: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:53
BluesKajtime for my daily walkk, BBL16:53
kgeekBluesKaj: i  had asked my question earlier no one replied that's y  i said so..16:54
kgeekBluesKaj: i m getting logged out ..automatically many times that's y16:54
eagles0513875hey guys im having issues with windows vista picking up a samba shared printer16:55
eagles0513875its giving me a hex error but i have everythign on samba configured correctly and setup correctly in cups16:55
SiVA_After running Amarok for a few hours, all of a sudden it just stops working. I restart amarok and it says ""The audio playback device 'HDA Intel analog...' doesn't work"17:00
SiVA_I really don't want to reboot and have to reload 20+ apps17:00
SiVA_so how could I just "reboot" the sound system?17:02
anoneemousehi... i installed 9.10 on my second drive and now im getting a grub error when i boot: no such partition17:03
anoneemousei tried to install grub manually with grub-install or something like that but it didnt help at all17:04
eagles0513875SiVA_: i have had that issue i usually start the stream again and it keeps playing just fine17:04
SiVA_eagles0513875: sound doesn't work from anywhere though....17:06
eagles0513875SiVA_: try sudo/etc/init.d/alsabase restart17:07
SiVA_eagles0513875: alsabase command not found17:09
SiVA_alsa-utils perhaps?17:09
rstob911SiVA_: open the mixer and make sure the pcm slidder is up17:10
SiVA_rstob911: Yea, it's alll maxed... it just stops working after awhile.. only restarting my computer fixes it. I'm sure there's some other way to restart just the sound17:11
eagles0513875SiVA_: try alsa restart then17:11
rstob911SiVA_: did you install the pulse audio driver17:12
SiVA_no go... after restarting alsa, then starting amarok, amarok complains that the sound device isn't working... youtube in browser doesn't work either17:12
SiVA_rstob911: I didn't do anything special with the default 9.10 install. Should I install pulse?17:13
rstob911i had this exact problem yesterday and i installed pulse and whalla works17:14
rstob911after installing pulse make sure your pcm slidders are up17:15
SiVA_rstob911: ok, anything I have to do after installing? I mean, to configure it?17:15
rstob911yes you will need to go to system settings then sound then make sure pulse is on top and test it17:16
rstob911on all the tabs in the settings make sure pulse driver is on top17:17
ign0ramuskaddi: you there?17:17
kaddiyes17:17
ign0ramuskaddi: did you see this: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/17:18
kaddino17:18
ign0ramuskaddi: it's no miracle, but flash seems to run much smoother with this17:18
ign0ramuskaddi: i just installed it a few minutes ago, but testing has gone well, and no crashes so far17:19
* ign0ramus crosses fingers17:19
ghoulsbladehi all, is there a nice plasma/traybar widget for cpu-freq-scaling in karmic ?   in jaunty it was possibly by rightclicking the battery thing, but not anymore =(17:19
ghoulsblade(e.g. ondemand, powersafe, performance..)17:19
dualCan I get KDE 4.4 in Ubuntu now?17:20
kaddiign0ramus: I actually tried the nomodeset thing on my laptop, left X unable to find the screen :p It wasn't really successful17:21
SiVA_rstob911: I guess I should stop alsa server now right? looks like I'll have to restart... using pulse at least I don't get errors from Amarok anymore17:21
rstob911no dont stop alsa17:22
ign0ramuskaddi: i'm not sure if that is even recommended for karmic (i know some had success in Jaunty w/ KMS)17:22
kaddiI removed the xorg.conf as well (uxa and greedy intel settings) and since then I get a normal speed OS for about 1-2hours... I just have to reboot frequently and the pc is usable.. Now I wish they had pushed for that 10sec boottime17:22
kaddiremoving the xorg.conf gave me 20sec of idle time before the login screen appears though, so it's not ideal, especial with the frequent reboots17:22
ign0ramuskaddi: i have the same experience... If I leave my laptop on overnight, performance is slow in the morning until i reboot...17:22
rstob911SiVA_: dont stop alsa just go into the sound settings and put pulse on top17:23
nasrullahhi to all17:24
ign0ramusghoulsblade: I checked through the default ones, and there doesn't seem to be one... either find one at kde-look.org or use System Settings17:24
nasrullahshutdown and restart problem in karmic ..your help please17:24
rstob911SiVA_: your system will still need to use alsa for certain things17:24
bradpitthi.. i still can't fix my blackscreen.. screenshot http://imagebin.org/71996 . please help.. thanks :)17:24
ign0ramusbradpitt: is "plasma-desktop" running?17:25
ghoulsbladeign0ramus, thanks, i'll look there =)17:25
ign0ramusghoulsblade: np17:25
bradpittign0ramus : i didnt change anything, i just installed kubuntu karmic and do update and here's that's the result :(17:26
rstob911nasrullah: more info please17:26
ign0ramusbradpitt: if you do alt+f2 and type in "plasma-desktop", does anything come back?17:26
bradpittign0ramus : im sorry, no :(17:27
nasrullahi am not able to shutdown my pc from the icon...i do it through konsol only...17:27
ign0ramusbradpitt: hmm... are there any updates that were held back, or do you have any broken packages?17:28
anoneemousenow i tried to reinstall grub2 and am getting another error17:28
rstob911nasrullah: have you modified anything since install17:28
anoneemouseunknown harddrive or something17:29
nasrullahno17:29
bradpittign0ramus : i guess no, im doing update in konsole but theres no held back updates.17:29
rstob911if you hit ctrl alt del does the shut down menu come up17:30
ign0ramusbradpitt: did you add the repo found here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.317:30
nasrullahi have upgraded jaunty to karmic from the net17:30
bradpittign0ramus : i believe no, it's just being installed.17:31
nasrullahyes17:31
ign0ramusbradpitt: i would try that, and get the latest kde, and see if it fixes your issue17:31
BluesKajign0ramus, don't think that will fix it17:33
ign0ramushey BluesKaj17:33
ign0ramusBluesKaj: seems like plasma doesn't want to run for him17:33
rstob911nasrullah: ok i did that also and i had nothing but problems the best thing to do is download and burn the karmic disk and install and just dont format your /home partition so you wont loose anything17:34
BluesKajbradpitt, open kmenu /system/hardware drivers17:34
ign0ramusnasrullah: do you have kubuntu installed through wubi?17:35
nasrullahno17:35
bradpittok BluesKaj, and then?17:35
BluesKajchoose the recommended driver , prolly the glx-18517:36
nasrullahthe problem is my internet is very slow for upgrading has taken me nearly three days..17:37
bradpittBluesKaj : the driver you mention is in use17:37
ghoulsbladeign0ramus : fyi : i found 3 things via plasma-widget-dialog > install new widgets > download new plasma widgets > search for cpu , but 2 of them don't seem to work, and the 3rd only displays cpu-freq, no way to change it17:37
nasrullahthere is no way to fix this17:37
ign0ramusghoulsblade: gah... the old way was better.. see if there's another battery widget that has it17:37
ign0ramusnasrullah: does this help --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131119117:38
ign0ramusgotta go... just wanted to let everyone know new Flash 10.1 Beta came out today... works OK for me.17:38
BluesKajbradpitt, open the terminal and type or copy and paste : glxinfo | grep direct17:38
bradpittBluesKaj : ok i type glxinfo | grep direct but nothing comes up :(17:41
BluesKajbradpitt, lspci | grep VGA17:41
bradpittBlueskaj : im sorry, i type that not on konsole but with alt-f2. and here's the result of glxinfo | grep direct   emily@emily:~$ glxinfo |grep direct17:44
bradpittThe program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:17:44
bradpittsudo apt-get install mesa-utils17:44
bradpittglxinfo: command not found17:44
bradpittemily@emily:~$17:44
FloodBotK1bradpitt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:44
BluesKajbradpitt, when ppl tell you to type in the konsole they don't mean alt-f2 , the konsole is the same as the terminal17:46
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BluesKajalt-f2 is for launching files and applications17:46
Gintulishow to install elisa media center on kubuntu?17:46
bradpittBluesKaj : here's the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/320959/17:47
BluesKajbradpitt, ok in the terminal : sudo apt-get install mesa-utils17:47
bradpittBluesKaj : here's the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/320959 i get this because of canceling updates process of kde 43317:49
bradpittBluesKaj : sorry wrong post17:49
bradpittBluesKaj : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)17:50
BluesKajbradpitt, in the terminal : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock17:51
BluesKajbradpitt, then : sudo dpkg --configure -a17:52
bradpittBluesKaj : ok mesa-utils is now installed17:52
BluesKajbradpitt, : lspci | grep VGA17:53
bradpittBluesKaj : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)17:53
BluesKajbradpitt, : glxinfo | grep direct17:54
bradpittBluesKaj : direct rendering: Yes , GL_EXT_direct_state_access, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord,17:55
BluesKajbradpitt, ok , you should b able run plasma now but you need to reboot17:56
bradpittBluesKaj : ok brb :)17:57
kubuntu_есть кто живой?17:58
BluesKaj!ru17:58
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:58
genii!ru17:58
* genii hands BluesKaj the prize of coffee17:59
BluesKajgenii, :)17:59
kubuntu_how to enter in "REPOSITARY " kubuntu ?17:59
nasrullahyour link did not help at all17:59
BluesKajnasrullah, who you talking to ?18:00
kubuntu_i dont now what is it.. repositary linux , how to enter it??18:00
bradpittBluesKaj : im afraid it's still the same :(18:00
genii!repos | kubuntu_18:00
ubottukubuntu_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories18:00
nasrullahrstob911 ..link did not help at all18:00
kubuntu_ubottu snx18:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about snx18:01
BluesKajok, bradpitt describe to me exactly what you are trying to do18:01
nasrullahno one can help me to fix ..shutdown problem18:03
bradpittBluesKaj : ok, i just installed kubuntu karmic, and then im installed vga driver, and then i reboot, after i login i do update with sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrades, and then i reboot again, and finally after i login this problem happen.18:03
peabody_where do I create a device entry for bluetooth?18:03
peabody_they freaking change bluez every other weekend18:04
BluesKajbradpitt, in the terminal : do-release-upgrade18:04
peabody_should I create an /etc/default/bluetooth ?18:04
geniipeabody_: I suspect in one of the .conf files from /etc/bluetooth18:05
peabody_genii, well it used to be in /etc/default/bluetooth last version18:05
rstob911peabody_: you cant run kbluetooth and on the icon right click on it then add your device there18:05
BluesKajI wish ppl wouldn't use that depracted command  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:06
peabody_no kbluetooth is garbage18:06
rstob911sorry it works perfect for me P18:06
peabody_I have to open device manager, remove it, click new, turn my mouse discoverable, connect it, and repeat the process every time it times out18:06
bradpittBluesKaj : ok, no new release found18:06
BluesKajbradpitt, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade18:07
bradpittBluesKaj : i add the ppa for kde 4.3.3 earlier, should i remove it first?18:08
BluesKajlf you wish , depends if  you want the latest kde or not18:10
bradpittBluesKaj : i'm not sure, i just want this blackscreen fix and then later i do update for kde 4.3.318:11
BluesKajmaybe the 4.3.3 will help fixit18:11
bradpittBluesKaj : ok im updating now.18:12
wickedwackguyhi18:12
wickedwackguyi accidently got rid of my options in KMIX18:13
wickedwackguyhow do i get it back18:13
wickedwackguy?18:13
bradpittETA 30 minutes, i have slow internet connections.18:13
wickedwackguyi only have the tabs left18:13
wickedwackguyoh18:14
wickedwackguylol18:14
wickedwackguyctrl M18:14
wickedwackguygood to know your here anyways ;)18:14
bipolarI'm trying to build a package for Kubuntu. The package needs to ask some questions of the user. I'm using debconf for this right now. The problem I'm having is that KPackageKit has no debconf ability, and my user never gets asked these questions. How are others getting around this issue?18:14
wickedwackguyooh ooh ooh i have a good question!18:15
wickedwackguywhy doesnt compiz work unless you type it into the terminal to start it?18:15
wickedwackguyor is this fixed with an update 3 days ago?18:16
bipolarI don't want to tell my users to open up konsole and type "sudo aptitude install foo", and even if they did that, the package will be broken on the next automatic upgrade because it needs to ask these questions on every install.18:16
bipolarwickedwackguy: compiz? there's really no point to using compiz with Kubuntu. Kde has it's own fancy window management things built in.18:16
BluesKajwickedwackguy, look for the compiz fusion icon in the kmenu and add it to your panel18:17
gizmobayAnyone have samba printer share from Ubuntu with WinXP working on Karmic?18:18
bipolargizmobay: if you just want to share one printer, you could just use cups instead of samba. Is this part of a larger network?18:19
Jonathan__hello people :) i am trying to get PS3 media server to work on my kubuntu installation yet i am having some difficulties18:19
gizmobayno just locally on my home18:19
bipolargizmobay: the printer is on the ubuntu box?18:19
gizmobaywas working until Karmic upgrade18:19
gizmobayyes18:19
Jonathan__following a guide on a blog somewhere they say in regards to Jave RE "You should set environment variable JAVA_HOME to JRE installation path"18:20
bipolargizmobay: ok. go into system settings > Printer configuration18:20
bipolargizmobay: check the box for "Share Published Printers connected to this system"18:20
gizmobayokay18:20
gizmobayokay it is checked18:21
bipolargizmobay: then in windows, you add a remote IP printer, in the format "http://ip-or-hostname-of-ubuntu-box:.... let me get this part right...18:21
milleniumsalve a tutti18:21
Tm_T!it18:22
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:22
bipolargizmobay: "http://ip-or-hostname-of-ubuntu-box:631/printer/PRINTERNAME"18:23
bipolargizmobay: then use the windows driver for your printer.18:23
bipolargizmobay: I *think* thats the right URL to use....18:23
bipolaryeah. thats what I have here gizmobay18:24
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bipolargizmobay: Also, if you have any other Ubuntu boxes in the house, you just need to check the box "Show printers shared by other systems" in the printer configuration, and you will be able to print to them automaticly.18:25
bipolargizmobay: it's great if you have a laptop, then the printers come and go as you move on and off your home network.18:25
gizmobayawesome it works!18:26
gizmobaythanks!!!18:26
bipolargizmobay: pretty slick, eh?18:26
gizmobayyeah18:26
gizmobayI've used samba for years18:26
bipolargizmobay: and much simpler then messing with samba18:26
gizmobaydon't know why it stopped18:27
gizmobayoh well18:27
bipolargizmobay: samba is useful if you want to auto install windows drivers for the printers and such.18:27
gizmobayat least samba network shares still work18:27
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Jonathan__anyone wanna help me with ps3 media server?18:31
bipolarJonathan__: sorry, I've never touched one.18:32
Jonathan__an Xbox man i see18:32
bipolarJonathan__: nope18:34
joei have a ps318:34
bipolarJonathan__: I play WoW. I need no other games :P18:34
joei use coherence to play to it18:34
joebest ive found18:35
joeits awesome18:35
bipolarJonathan__: oh, and I use Wine to play WoW, of course.18:35
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Jonathan__coherence18:35
Jonathan__?>18:35
joeyep18:36
joeu using kubuntu?18:36
Jonathan__i dont really care what i use to be honest as long as i can watch movies on the big telly18:36
Jonathan__yeah course18:36
joeuse the kpackagekit18:36
joeto install coherence18:36
Jonathan__no way18:36
joethen i can give u a sample config18:36
joethat will get you up and going18:36
joesave u some time anyway18:37
jimmy51_!coherence18:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about coherence18:37
joeim kinda new to the shit it took me a minute to figure out18:37
joei still dont fully understand it, but it works great, and thats good enough for me18:37
genii!info coherence18:38
ubottuPackage coherence does not exist in karmic18:38
geniiHm18:38
joewonder why its not there18:38
Jonathan__shut up bot18:38
Jonathan__it does18:38
Jonathan__its installing now18:38
joeits one of the most useful tools ive ever used18:38
joeyeah, okay, ill go pastebin that conf18:38
joesec18:38
Jonathan__kk18:38
joeJonathan__: http://pastebin.com/m35a94ba818:41
bipolarUgh... does anyone know how to build a package that can ask questions of users when installed via packagekit? Packagekit ignores debconf.18:42
Jonathan__joe where does coherence install to?18:42
joewhat i do, and i dont know if it is right, but it works, what i do is put that text in a .coherence file, put it in root folder, then as root type coherence &18:42
joechange the folders ofcourse where your media is located18:42
joein the conf18:42
joe.coherence in root folder is where i put it18:42
tsimpsonbipolar: ask in #kubuntu-devel18:42
joethen just run coherence & as root18:42
Jonathan__that pastebin file?18:42
joeyes18:42
bipolarok. Thanks tsimpson18:42
joeit will be working in seconds18:43
Jonathan__:O18:43
joesoon as you start coherence go look at video section on ps318:43
joedont even have to search for the media server or anything18:43
joewill just pop up18:43
Jonathan__eh my media is in my home folder18:43
joethen just put /home/jonathan or whatever18:44
joewhere content is18:44
Jonathan__remove yours and add mine18:44
joeyeah18:44
joeif you notice, i even had /home/joe/smb4k as a content folder, so i can browse thru all my windows shares in the house on my ps318:44
Jonathan__ok i edited it18:45
Jonathan__save it as PS3.coherence18:45
Jonathan__in root?18:45
joedont leave the name Daddys Server, thats copyright :)18:45
joeno18:45
joejust .coherence18:45
joein root folder18:45
Jonathan__ok changed it to spawn18:45
joelike if your logged in as root cd ~18:45
joeactually18:46
joeif you put it in your user home dir18:46
joeand run it as a user it would prolly still work18:46
joenot sure, always did it as root18:46
Jonathan__aww it wont let me save to root in kate :(18:46
joecuz i need root to access some of my content18:46
joesu18:46
joewell18:47
joejust see if you can put it in .coherence in your local home dir18:47
joeand then run it18:47
Jonathan__aww18:49
Jonathan__it didnt save my file18:49
joewhat file?18:49
joeyou prolly cant see it if it starts with a .18:50
joetype ls -a18:50
joeto see files that start with a .18:50
lulusalut18:51
Jonathan__ok ok how do i cd into root?18:51
Jonathan__cd ./18:51
Jonathan__?18:51
luluou est ce que je peux trouver une liste de serveurs irc plz?18:51
badmuppetIs that johnathan phan use to work at connect services?18:52
bradpitt!fr | lulu18:52
ubottululu: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr18:52
luluc'est seulement en anglais ici?18:52
gnopakHi, I cannot connect to wireless AP with kde4 plasma widget. I can connect to wired network. Can someone help, pls?18:52
Jonathan__ok18:53
lundhHi18:53
gnopakJonathan__: cd /18:53
lundhI just installed kubuntu on a W500, but what do I need to do to get sound to work from flash? (or apps other then kde-based ones)18:54
djusticegnopak: the knetworkmanager widget is still a work in progress. imho, it shouldnt have been included. but w/e. have you tried nm-applet yet? or wicd?18:54
Jonathan__one last noob question: how do i run the file from terminal18:54
VroomfondleJonathan__: an executable file?18:54
Vroomfondleor do you mean you want to edit a file?18:54
Jonathan__no the ".coherence" file18:54
djusticelundh: check your mixer settings in kmix, maybe a odd channel is muted?18:54
gnopakdjustice: I tried wicd. It worked at first. Then it started to turn wireless on and off every second.18:54
rstob911lundh: on the kmix make sure the pcm slissers are up18:55
lundhdjustice: nothing like that18:55
djusticegnopak: hm, maybe it's your driver. try nm-applet first. just to see. if that fails, then you likely have a driver issue.18:55
Vroomfondleah... I dunno anything about "coherence"18:55
Jonathan__we were just talking about it18:55
lundhrstob911: oh... why do I need pcm for flash?18:55
joeJonathan__:18:55
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joejust type coherence &18:56
rstob911lundh: it worked for me18:56
gnopakWill do, I have a Thinkpad T42. I was sure it would be supported. Was I wrong?18:56
djusticelundh: hm. any different mixers? and im not sure why. but most cards have a 'master' and a 'pcm' channel. flash needs both turned up.18:56
lundhdjustice: it was the pcm-mixer but I dont get what that has to do with flash18:56
lundhthanbks18:56
gnopakdjustice: Will do, I have a Thinkpad T42. I was sure it would be supported. Was I wrong?18:57
djusticegnopak: seems like it should be. most thinkpads are linux friendly.. i thought anyway..18:57
bradpittBluesKaj : kde 4.3.3 is now installed, need to reboot. brb. we'll see if its fix my blackscreen problem :)18:57
gnopakdjustice: OK18:57
gnopakdjustice: What is the package name for nm-applet?18:59
djusticegnopak: network-manager-gnome iirc, idk tho. the plasma widget works for me.19:01
djusticekubuntu 9.10 was a beautiful release. congratz to the team. ;) i love that 'extra functionality' installer that hooks to amarok and nepomuk. what package is that btw? anyone know?19:04
bradpittBluesKaj : i still have that problem even after upgrading to kde 4.3.3 :( http://imagebin.org/7201019:04
gnopakdjustice: Thnks, installing now.19:05
bipolartsimpson: well, that answers that question. I can't get there from here. :P19:05
* bipolar goes back to the drawing board.19:05
BluesKajbradpitt, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop19:06
bradpittBluesKaj : kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.19:07
BluesKajbradpitt, that's very strange ..never seen anything like it , any thoughts bipolar ?19:08
BluesKajor tsimpson ?19:08
bipolarbradpitt: does ~/.xsession-errors have any clues?19:09
bipolarbradpitt: do you have compositing turned on?19:09
tsimpsonthat looks like plasma has failed to start19:10
bipolaryap19:10
bradpittBluesKaj : yes, i have installing kubuntu karmic on my netbook but that was fine.19:10
bradpittbipolar : how  to do xsession?19:10
bipolarbradpitt: can you get to a konsole?19:10
bradpittbipolar : yes i can19:11
bipolaroh, good.19:11
bipolarrun 'less ~/.xsession-errors'19:11
gizmobayI'm using a Geforce 5200 with the 173 drivers. Seems like I always have to do two reboots to get Karmic to boot properly. The first boot goes in low graphics mode19:11
bradpittbipolar : there's so many line.. idk how to paste it. something like QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 219:13
gizmobayI did a pastebin to show the differences between the Xorg.log and Xorg.log.old with the Xorg.log being the good boot..19:13
gizmobayhttp://pastebin.com/d3e8abc7419:13
djusticebradpitt: a buggy plasmoid i bet. possible?19:13
bradpittdjustice : yes maybe, idk much about kde. kubuntu karmic is my first distro :)19:14
bipolarbradpitt: can you get a web browser open?19:14
bradpittbipolar : yes i can run firefox19:14
bipolarbradpitt: select the text with the mouse and right-click>copy19:15
bipolarthen go to www.pastebin.ca and paste it into a new pastebin and submit it.19:15
djusticebradpitt: wow. :) good luck and have fun learning. i would make a newb build an archlinux system first. just to learn. ;] try 'rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc' to erase your plasma settings. or rename it to something else. as a backup.19:15
bipolarpaste the url it gives you here and we can look at it.19:16
bipolarbradpitt: since this is your first distro, I can assume this is not an upgraded workstation?19:16
bipolarbradpitt: IOW, you did a fresh install19:16
tsimpsonyou can try "kquitapp plasma-desktop" then deleting or moving ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc and or ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc19:16
bradpittbipolar : no i can't there's thousand lines in Konsole19:17
tsimpsonthen running "kdeinit4_wrapper plasma-desktop" to start plasma again19:17
bipolarbradpitt: follow tsimpson's advice19:17
bipolarbradpitt: and we'll go from there.19:17
bradpittok tsimpson19:17
bradpitttsimpson : <unknown program name>(1786)/: "Application plasma-desktop could not be found using service org.kde.plasma-desktop and path /MainApplication."19:18
skreech!commands19:18
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal19:18
tsimpsonbradpitt: that means that plasma wasn't running, so it's ok to continue19:18
bradpitttsimpson : continue with deleting plasma applet?19:19
tsimpsonbradpitt: the files, yes19:20
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bradpitttsimpson : it runs for a moment and then fade to black again19:22
tsimpsonany output in the terminal?19:23
bradpitttsimpson : Launched ok, pid = 182219:23
tsimpsonis that all?19:23
bradpittthats all19:23
tsimpsonhmm19:23
BluesKajgizmobay, just to be sure : lspci | grep VGA19:23
gizmobayI made a mistake on my diff file. I was ssh'd into another box19:24
tsimpsonbradpitt: try just typing "plasma-desktop" into the shell19:27
bradpitttsimpson : ok it runs for a moment again, but there's so much output in the konsole19:28
tsimpsoncan you try to pastebin it?19:28
djusticebradpitt: make a new user (sudo adduser) and see if that user still has the problem... you have some other kind of configuration failure i think. or try 'rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*'19:28
bradpitttsimpson : yes i can, please wait.19:29
djusticetsimpson: maybe it's a bad wallpaper or a panel went nuts or something. an iffy theme.19:29
bradpittdjustice : ok ill do that later after pastebin this output :)19:29
BluesKajdjustice he just installed , he didn't config any themes19:30
* BluesKaj wonders about the monitor driver19:31
bradpitttsimpson : http://pastebin.com/m2338a65a19:31
gizmobay< (II) Initializing extension GLX19:32
gizmobaylooks like this is my issue19:32
gizmobayWhen it trys to load this extension19:32
gizmobayI get the low graphics mode19:32
gizmobay02:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)19:33
yamokidzu-ithello how adjust sound in kubuntu? please help19:33
djusticeyamokidzu-it: kmix? or menu>systemsettings>multimedia?19:34
BluesKajyamokidzu-it, open alsamixer in the terminal , make sure your ctrls are up to 75% or so with no M in the boxes19:34
rstob911yamokidzu-it: and make sure the pcm slidders are up in kmix19:34
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yamokidzu-itok thank19:35
djusticebradpitt: that's a widget failing. someone cant code. ;]19:35
tsimpsonbradpitt: go ahead and try "rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*" and see if plasma starts then, if it does it was reading old config files19:35
yamokidzu-itdon't understand very well19:35
BluesKajgizmobay, kmenu/system/hardware drivers choose the recommended one and apply19:36
rstob911yamokidzu-it: ok on the task bar you see a speaker click on it and when it pops up click kmix19:36
bradpittdjustice , tsimpson : rm: cannot remove `/home/emily/.kde/share/config/plasma': No such file or directory19:36
yamokidzu-itsorry don't see any speaker !19:37
djusticeyamokidzu-it: alt+f2; type 'kmix'<enter>; see bars? anything muted? no bars? then alt+f2; type 'konsole'<enter>; type 'alsamixer'<enter> into konsole; see bars? mute channels?19:37
tsimpsonbradpitt: you need the '*' at the end: rm /home/emily/.kde/share/config/plasma*19:37
djusticebradpitt: ^ :)19:37
gizmobayBluesKaj, it's already installed 17319:37
yamokidzu-itno19:37
BluesKajgizmobay, make sure it's highlighted and being used19:38
yamokidzu-it"impossible ex. cmd"19:38
bradpitttsimpson : ok, and then?19:38
yamokidzu-ithow install kmix?19:38
tsimpsonbradpitt: try typing "plasma-desktop" again19:38
djusticeyamokidzu-it: it's already installed. with kubuntu. open konsole and type 'kmix &'. does it give an error? or launch kmix?19:39
bradpitttsimpson : it runs for a moment again :(19:39
BluesKajyamokidzu-it, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-base19:39
tsimpsonbradpitt: still the same output?19:40
bradpitttsimpson : yes19:40
BluesKajbradpitt, what monitor are you using ?19:40
yamokidzu-itsorry I choosen kmix only...19:40
bradpitttsimpson : its very old. samsung 15" sync master 591 s19:41
yamokidzu-itI installed kde-base so probably wasn't installed...19:41
yamokidzu-itok works thank you19:41
juggleI have a kubuntu and ubuntu-gnome cds,is it possile to install both of them so that i can use both kde and gnome?19:42
bradpittBluesKaj : its very old. samsung 15" sync master 591 s19:43
yamokidzu-ithow can I check volume level by the sound intensity like the sound volume of windows?19:44
yamokidzu-itI mean the sound that the windows's sound control does when move a bar...ding!19:45
yamokidzu-itBluesKAj19:45
bradpittjuggle : choose anything you like, ubuntu or kubuntu. when you have it installed you can add KDE or gnome desktop with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for KDE and sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for gnome19:46
rstob911juggle: if you already have kubuntu installed all you have to do is go to system settings then software ad remove and type gnome desktop and search by description19:47
BluesKajbradpitt, sudo nvidia-xconfig , the alt+f2 then, kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:47
BluesKajbradpitt, copy and paste  /etc/X11/xorg.conf so we can look at it19:48
BluesKajin pastebin19:48
bradpittBluesKaj : ok. here it is http://pastebin.com/m237d738d19:49
fjellrev1I try to empty my trash can, the files go away but when I try deleting further I get an error saying that my trash can is full, anyone have any idea what to do ?19:51
BluesKajbradpitt, it looks fine19:51
BluesKajyamokidzu-it, in the terminal : sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils19:53
gizmobayBluesKaj, it shows the driver as being used19:53
BluesKajBBL19:53
bradpittBluesKaj : it should be fine but idk i never expecting this blackscreen19:53
tsimpsonbradpitt: I'm not sure why it would fail, you could try asking in #kde maybe, and file a bug report here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+filebug (stating the KDE version)19:54
zippyblackscreen?19:55
zippythats what i have when starting kdm19:55
zippyi found a workaround19:55
bradpittBluesKaj : believe it or not i reinstall it twice but by the time i do update this blackscreen happen :(19:55
bradpitttsimpson : ok ill do that :)19:56
zippyi have to press ctrl alt +19:56
zippythen i can see a low graphics message but nothing works19:56
zippythen i press esc and everythings fine19:57
zippyfunny ritual for starting graphics19:57
bradpitttsimpson : what should i wrote on that launchpad? blackscreen after update on kubuntu karmic?19:58
zippyvery odd that no shell is available, only via ssh19:59
tsimpsonbradpitt: just that plasma fails to start after upgrading to karmic, even after deleting ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*, and attach the output of the "plasma-desktop" command20:00
zippynographic+noshell=bad idea20:00
tsimpsonbradpitt: then someone will ask for more information if needed20:00
gizmobaygoing to try something. need to reboot.20:01
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dmatthow to report bug in weather widget?20:04
bradpittBluesKaj , tsimpson , djustice thanks for yor help.. i hope that my blackscreen problem won't happen in the LTS release. good job to you all. good luck :)20:06
tsimpsondmatt: report a bug against plasma-widgets-addons20:09
dmatttsimpson: thanks, is there an easy way to look into source and check if I see the problem myself?20:11
tsimpsondmatt: you can get the source with "apt-get source plasma-widgets-addons", that will download the source and extract it in the current directory20:12
gnufreexHi all. I have problem with pulseaudio. I installed ubuntu and it is working fine bud I did 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and now ubuntu still works fine but when I boot straight in KDE, I don't have sound20:16
gnufreexin GNOME i still have sound20:17
gnufreexAnd if I boot first in GNOME and then logout and go to KDE, I have sound again20:17
gnufreexjust wont work if I go straigt to KDE20:17
dmattgnufreex: try to unmute all channels in mixer20:18
gnufreextried that first20:18
gnufreexsame20:18
gnufreexthanks anyway20:18
gnufreexit is AD198x sound card20:19
tsimpsontry going to System Settings -> Multimedia -> and move "PulseAudio" up to the top of the list20:19
tsimpson(or all of the lists)20:19
gnufreexI think I tried that but I will try again20:20
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ewoerneris it possible to interrupt an update from jaunty to karmic?20:21
ewoerneri.e. when downloading new packages20:22
gnufreexi just loged to KDE and now have sound O.o20:22
Vroomfondleewoerner: if it's only downloading (hasn't started installing yet), yes20:22
Vroomfondleotherwise, don't touch it20:22
ewoernerVroomfondle: downloading20:22
Vroomfondleyou can generally just close the window or ctrl-c on CLI20:23
Vroomfondle(if I remember correctly)20:23
ewoernerokay20:23
tsimpsonpulseaudio is dumb and evil20:23
ewoerneralready late, can't spend another 5 hours watching download progress20:23
tsimpsonand evil and dumb20:23
gnufreexlol20:24
fjellrev1Anyone here got any tips on fixing my trash can that doesnt delete files,just makes them invincible?20:33
gnufreex<fjellrev1>: What version of Kubuntu? I had same problem with 9.04 and is now fine with 9.1020:36
fjellrev1im running 9.1020:36
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BluesKajtsimpson, pulseaudio ian agenda driven app, ...there's a dev over at #ubuntu who's been pushing pulseaudio on ppl since jaunty was released and somehow got it to be included as a default soundserver which really does serve much of a purpose except add another layer of complexity ,loopy digital distortion and choppy audio ..it's awful20:41
BluesKajdoesn't serve much of a purpose , is what i meant20:42
tsimpsonwhich is why we don't include it in kubuntu20:42
BluesKajtsimpson, I still have it listed in system settings altho it's greyed out even after purging20:43
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badmuppetwhat is the best browser to on kubuntu20:43
tsimpsonthat's just the config (for phonon) saying it was there20:43
badmuppetfirefox not really kde friendly20:44
badmuppetkonquer does not display all sites correctly20:44
tsimpsontry konqueror or arora20:44
BluesKajis there a way to get rid of the residual PA ?20:44
badmuppete.g http://www.vmware.com20:44
tsimpsonBluesKaj: not sure20:47
* genii sips and tries to figure out what vmware has to do with what is a good KDe wen browser20:48
BiosI got a problem with my audio device (karmic) http://pastebin.com/m1252c0c820:48
goodnightvienna:)20:52
gnufreexDoes someone here use Daisy widget as Dock ? Some apps dont have dot when runing http://tinypic.com/r/eqyrer/620:52
gnufreexThat blue cube is netBeans IDE and is actualy running20:53
gnufreexBut don't have dot20:54
BiosI got a problem with my audio device (karmic) http://pastebin.com/m1252c0c820:54
genii!intelhda | Bios20:55
ubottuBios: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto20:55
geniiBios: The instructions were for an earlier version but still apply20:56
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Biosok thx21:01
=== th3Xfagtr is now known as yngnhrnyboi
jimmy51_fresh 9.10 install, installed kubuntu-restricted-extras.  how can i pop in a dvd and play it?21:05
djusticejimmy51_: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh21:07
peter____hello21:08
jimmy51_djustice: hmm... there is no libdvdread421:08
jimmy51_(on my system)21:08
djusticejimmy51_: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 :)21:09
peter____is there anybody online21:09
djusticepeter____: hello :) there are plenty of ppl online ;]21:09
yngnhrnyboiany irc pros here?21:09
peter____but nobody is talking?21:09
peter____i only see some message from system21:10
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djusticepeter____: this is a support channel, not a chat channel. do you have a problem with kubuntu?21:10
djusticeyngnhrnyboi: pro irc user? lol. what's the problem?21:10
kgeekpeter____: hello dude21:10
yngnhrnyboihow do i get other servers?21:10
djusticeyngnhrnyboi: what irc client? konversation? file>serverlist21:11
jimmy51_djustice: ok, installed and ran install-css.sh.  still not playing in dragon player.  it stays black, gets to 00:01 and crashes if i try to pause/unpause21:11
peter____just checking the operating system, quite well, stable and pretty fast, compared to vista ;-)21:11
djusticejimmy51_: try a reboot :? mine worked right after the script though. the script did finish correctly?21:11
jimmy51_hmm... i'll try a reboot21:12
yngnhrnyboi??????21:12
jimmy51_script appeared to finish properly21:12
kgeekpeter____: are  u the same peter  who is on topcoder.21:12
djusticeyngnhrnyboi: what are you using as an irc program? konversation? xchat? irssi? there are a ton of them.. i cant help if u dunno wut program ur using..21:13
yngnhrnyboikonversation21:14
ShaxorYo, I'm here to ask if anyone uses Emesene?21:14
djusticejimmy51_: also, the mplayer website has a codec tarball. has just about every codec.21:14
jimmy51_hmm, it looks like dragon replaced kaffiene.  dragon isn't listed on the restrictedformats/playingDVDs page21:14
djusticeyngnhrnyboi: yea, file>server list. or quick connect. then enter the info. are you looking for other servers to connect to? for a certain reason? google knows a ton of them. i liek dalnet sometimes. im a freenode guy tho rly ;)21:15
djusticejimmy51_: dragon plays dvd's fine. it's the same subsystem.21:15
djusticejimmy51_: and nah, not rly replaced. its just a 'really simple to use' video player.21:16
jimmy51_ok.  i'll just reboot and see if it helps21:16
yngnhrnyboiim kinda new to this and am looking to find places to talk to other people like me21:16
djusticeyngnhrnyboi: i dunno u or wut kinda server u would liek. #ubuntu-offtopic and #kde-cafe are nice places to chat tho...21:17
yngnhrnyboiok i will give those a try21:17
yngnhrnyboithanks21:17
keldronahello guys. I have got a problem with joomla. Can anyone help me?21:18
djusticekeldrona: does joomla not have an irc channel? you would probably get more help there... or a mailing list if they have one... or you might get lucky here. :) i dunno tho.21:19
kgeekant one here to help me with loop to moount iso images21:23
ghostcubekeldrona: what problem even if its not kubuntu related21:23
ghostcubejoomla 1.5 core or any plugin21:24
llutzkgeek: sudo mount -o loop file.iso mntpoint21:24
kgeekllutz: thnxx21:24
keldronaghostcube: it's simple... I'm trying to install joomla 1.5.15 (I've done it before in another site) and, at the page where database information is needed, I click on the button "next" and nothing happens... it looks like I'm clicking in the void21:25
ghostcubeany script blogger ?21:25
ghostcubethe installer is java based21:26
ghostcubetried in other browsers ?21:26
keldronayes... in 3 different computer... always with linux and always with firefox21:27
jose__hii21:56
rottexquick question: does someone know, how I can get the time/date when a specific package was installed on the system (on the command-line...) ?22:10
Guest29086hi22:11
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sysop2hi22:11
lukasz_HI22:11
jimmy51_"Lock Screen" isn't doing anything.  9.10 fresh install + nvidia driver 185.  is this a known bug?22:12
lukasz_Zastanawiam sie czy sa tu Polacy22:12
jimmy51_can i run a command to force the screen to lock?22:12
sysop2is there anything like screenrecycler for kde? is there a way I can eumlate that. bascially I want a another x display that is linked to vnc, so when I vnc into my computer I just get that display22:12
sysop2so I can use another computer as an extra display for laptop.22:13
jimmy51_ah... CTRL ALT L22:13
lukasz_magez:  Pl :D?22:13
jimmy51_adios22:13
Urrghshi; someone here who can help a noob to get his kubuntu work again?    "mount of filesystem failed"22:13
sysop2I would love to vnc from my windows or mac to a special port on my linux pc and full screen the session and then be able to drag windows over to it.22:13
Urrghskubuntu does not start22:13
lukasz_marek_:  siema:D22:14
Urrghsonly the maintenance shell22:14
lukasz_!pl22:15
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.22:15
Urrghsaha...to polski kanal; nawet nie zauwarzylem22:15
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rottexUrrgs: 1) start with liveCD/usbstick and try chroot to your system --> google  2) double check /boot/menu.lst and /etc/fstab22:16
rottexUrrgs: or check your hd cable :-)22:17
Urrghshehe22:17
Urrghshmm..tonight I will not be able to get a cd....so I can check the file  /boot/menu.lst....but check for what?22:18
Urrghsthe cable is not the problem  :)  I have got only one hard disk here on the notebook...the windows works :)22:19
rottexcheck for the "root" parameter22:20
Urrghsotherwise I could not be here....22:20
rottexin /boot/grub/menu.lst22:20
rottexexample: "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=302320c6-8449-41e9-8b13-61984b87b87b ro vga=0x368"22:20
marek_lukasz_ albo sie nie ma :)22:20
Urrghsyes.....root parameter...ok22:20
Urrghshmm.....should I change there anything?   I suppose so...22:21
lukasz_marek_:  szukam tu pomocy na na tym polskim kanale to tylko jakis koles sie wysmiewa :/22:21
rottexwell , i dont know :-)22:21
marek_lukasz_ remember this is english channel :)22:22
rottexwithout a "working system" from livecd etc. its hard to do something22:22
Urrghshmmm...then the check will not be very successful22:22
Urrghsaha...ok22:22
rottexUrrghs: isnt it possible to start a kubuntu in windows ?! I But I do not know this "wubi" , cause I run Linux since 7 years and no $soft...22:27
Urrghshmm22:28
Hans_Henrikyou can run wubi and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE22:29
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Walzmyn"service network-manager" restart is not working. Anybody else having this issue?22:54
aaron_heya i wanted to install the latest versions of amarok and ktorrent from source, should i remove the current versions via kpackagemanager?22:59
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nomopofomotest, can anyone see this?23:00
Benkinoobyfreaky[t]: sorry23:07
Benkinoobywhois freaky[t]23:08
freaky[t]Benkinooby,  ;P23:10
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gizmobayI'm trying to get the grub reboot options to work again. I can't remember what to change in the menu.lst for default and for savedefault. Anyone remeber?23:15
djusticeanyone know if there is a kword package of the kde4 version (trunkmebbe?) somewhere? for karmic?23:24
Tm_T!koffice23:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about koffice23:26
Tm_T!info kword23:26
ubottukword (source: koffice): a word processor for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu10 (karmic), package size 2307 kB, installed size 6348 kB23:26
Tm_Tweird23:27
Tm_Tdjustice: you might like to search for ppa23:27
Tm_Tshame I cannot help you on that, I really should be in sleep by now23:27
djusticeTm_T: ah, thanks anyway :) ill check the ppaz. im scared of ppas tho. :[23:28
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Blues-Manhi all23:31
Blues-Mani had a crash after installed some python-based plasmoid, is this a known bug?23:32
Blues-Manthe crash was made by plasma-desktop23:32
RoeyRiddell:  hey Jonathan, just wanted to update you on this udev thing.  It's known, and the -proposed repo has the fixed package.  How long would it take to trickle down to the main repository, in your estimation?23:33
ewoernerdoes the usb-creator also work with non-ubuntu iso images?23:41
ewoerner(at least for the boot part)23:41
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lukasz_Cu23:46
sysop2hi23:52
sysop2is there anything like screenrecycler for kde? is there a way I can eumlate that. bascially I want a another x display that is linked to vnc, so when I vnc into my computer I just get that display23:52
sysop2emulate I mean23:53
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