[00:00] <lukas> Zensursula: prepare for some not so integrated behaviour
[00:00] <lukas> Zensursula: on Debian with KDE
[00:00] <larry_laramies> get a mac
[00:00] <Zensursula> let's see. It can't get worse.
[00:01] <lukas> Zensursula: probably now
[00:01] <lukas> not
[00:01] <lukas> but there has to be a reason
[00:02] <Zensursula> I'm sure. I tested a ppa driver. same behaviour...
[00:04] <lukas> Zensursula: okay, next, paste those files, lshw and lspci
[00:04] <lukas> it will be much easier
[00:07] <Zensursula> in about 15 min I'll be back with some hopefully interesting news and the files...
[00:07] <Zensursula> INTEL 955gM
[00:08] <lukas> okay
[00:15] <brb> hi i was woundering how can someone shrink an iso file to be able to fit onto a 4.7gig dvd disk???
[00:15] <marco> CIAO
[00:17] <brb> hi i was woundering how can someone shrink an iso file to be able to fit onto a 4.7gig dvd disk???
[00:35] <valentin_> смммчя
[00:56] <Zensursula> lukas :  Debian + KDE runs just fine. Sound OK  WLAN OK Flash OK 2nd Monitor OK WOW
[00:57] <Zensursula> so I'll leave KUBUNTU on the other partition and will come to it when the problem is officially solved.
[00:58] <Zensursula> the forums are full of these strories...
[01:23] <sayyaf> hi all I'm new on ubuntu
[01:43] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10....but remotely, using ssh...how can I do this?
[01:44] <Crell> Hi all.  According to top, my KNetwork manager is taking up 92% of my CPU.  Firefox is taking another 38%, followed by Xorg and various other things.
[01:44] <Crell> I'm assuming that is a misread, but KNetwork manager shouldn't even be in the top 10% I imagine.
[01:44] <Crell> Is it safe to kill that and restart it, or would that have unwanted side effects?
[02:19] <andreusgg> hello
[02:19] <andreusgg> hola
[02:24] <domingo> hi everyone im new here
[04:13] <joe___> i think by default i cant connect to my machine via ssh
[04:13] <joe___> where do i change that at?
[04:14] <joe___> i thought i already added  ALL: LOCAL to /etc/hosts.allow
[04:14] <joe___> nothing in hosts.deny
[04:14] <joe___> can ping the machine
[04:15] <joe___> other machines can even connect to its synergys , just not to ssh
[04:16] <joe___> anyone? i know its  a simple fix, but im new to kubuntu
[04:20] <Wolfcastle> joe___: are you sure sshd is running?
[04:20] <joe___> not sure checking
[04:21] <joe___> nope
[04:21] <joe___> thanks, i knew it was something simple
[04:21] <Wolfcastle> not running? then start up sshd and try it
[04:22] <joe___> tried, turns out it wasnt installed
[04:22] <joe___> so i installed it
[04:22] <joe___> and its working fine now...  im retarded
[04:23] <joe___> connects very slowly though
[04:49] <dh003i> hi all...I'm having a problem with one of my KDE accounts. I can login, but now I can't type! This has happened to me periodically, the keyboard stops responding when logged in as the other user. It is usually fixed by logging out, then logging back in. But no-more. What's going on!!!???
[04:53] <dh003i> hello?
[04:55] <joe___> i added quite a few apps thru the kpackagekit but it dont think it always adds the icons to the application menu
[04:55] <joe___> is there an application finder app or something like that?
[05:11] <astrryn> How do I completely uninstall a program? The package manager isn't working. It says that wine isn't installed, but wine is still showing up in my applications menu.
[05:15] <d9500> astrryn, open terminal and run sudo aptitude purge wine wine1.2 wine-gecko wine1.2-gecko wine-dev
[05:15] <astrryn> ty
[05:16] <davidjheinrich> can ANYONE help me with my problem? My KDE session won't recognize input from the keyboard (I can login at KDM though)...until I deleted the ~/.kde file and made it rebuild it. But now I've lost all of my favorites on the start menu, AND EVERYTHING is SLOW. Like windows aren't being accelerated by the radeonhd drivers
[05:16] <d9500> astrryn,  then alt+f2, type kemenuedit and hit enter, and find the wine entry in the relevant menu and remove it
[05:17] <astrryn> ok
[05:19] <davidjheinrich> hello?
[05:20] <davidjheinrich> anyone know why the hell KDE magically stops responding to my keyboard?
[05:24] <monkey__> hi is anyone here that could help me with a sound problem?
[05:28] <stratex> #
[05:28] <stratex>     /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[05:32] <abeastinme> hi
[05:32] <abeastinme> everyone
[05:37] <monkey__> :(
[06:14] <miguelh> What's it take to get mp3, .avi , mp4 , and so on to work in kubuntu?
[06:14] <Iwonder> What's it take to get mp3, .avi , mp4 , and so on to work in kubuntu?
[06:46] <brb> how does someone copy a folder into /usr/share/games/stepmania4 and i would like to add a folder called Songs into it, can anyone please help me out???
[06:47] <ordinarydot> plesae, anybody knows how to make gtk+ apps not "ugly" when running kde in ubuntu? i laready look at ubuntu forum but i found no clue
[07:27] <TheKro> any suggestions on how to debug a VPN connection that doesn't seem to work.  Currently, I click on the VPN connection in the network manager, it says "Activating" for a second or two, and then the "Activating" disappears.
[07:37] <praxidemo> hello
[07:39] <praxidemo> I use gnome destokp, Dou you speak about Kde?, I dont know about stability
[07:53] <cpetzel> hey guys i need some help with a usb netgear wifi  it keeps like reseting and loseing the signal even thogh its a 70% stringth
[07:55] <cpetzel> or am i going to have to wait till what looks like bug is fixed
[07:57] <cpetzel> has anyone ran into the same problem ?
[07:58] <EjwgWcjO> has anyone ran into the same problem ?
[07:58] <cpetzel> with a usb netgear wifi  it keeps like reseting and loseing the signal even thogh its a 70% stringth
[08:00] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[08:01] <ixMBU4ugD> !netsplit
[08:01] <ixMBU4ugD> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/
[08:04] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[08:04] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[08:05] <gunner05> does anyone know how to help me with a usb netgear wifi con
[08:05] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[08:06]  * vasko is gone. Gone since Mon Nov  9 10:00:00 2009
[08:07] <gunner05> I will look in google to see if there is anything i can do ....
[08:07] <fY9ScFM> I will look in google to see if there is anything i can do ....
[08:08] <gunner05> it would be useful if someone would help me and not just repeat my question
[08:08] <fY9ScFM> noitseuq ym taeper tsuj ton dna em pleh dluow enoemos fi lufesu eb dluow ti
[08:09] <yofel> !ask | gunner05
[08:12] <yofel> gunner05: could you state your specific issue? wifi card not recognized/network not seen/connection doesn't finish/whatever ?
[08:12] <orMXwg> gunner05: could you state your specific issue? wifi card not recognized/network not seen/connection doesn't finish/whatever ?
[08:12] <yofel> argh, spambug -.-
[08:12] <yofel> *spambot
[08:14] <gunner05> it connects but afetr like 5 min it disconnects and then connects again it make it hard to install stuff
[08:14] <pkKUCup1P> it connects but afetr like 5 min it disconnects and then connects again it make it hard to install stuff
[08:14] <leo__> hello
[08:14] <leo__> ^_^
[08:15] <yofel> gunner05: do you get any errors at the end of your dmesg output in a terminal? and what kubuntu version are you using?
[08:15] <leo__> do you ask me?!  yofel
[08:15] <yofel> leo__: I asked gunner05 ;)
[08:16] <leo__> o sorry
[08:16] <yofel> !hi | leo__
[08:16] <yofel> welcome anyway :D
[08:17] <leo__> I have poor English skills
[08:17] <gunner05> my version is 9.10 it does not output any errors or parts of code that made the problem I been wounding if its a bug in there
[08:17] <yofel> leo__: where are your from, there might be a channel in your language
[08:18] <leo__> IM from china :-)
[08:18] <leo__> what about you?
[08:18] <yofel> germany ;)
[08:19] <leo__> Wow
[08:19] <leo__> How old are you???
[08:20] <yofel> gunner05: hm... I'm don't know much about hardware issues. You could ask again later when the others are up
[08:20] <yofel> leo__: me? 23
[08:20] <leo__> en
[08:20] <leo__> me 22
[08:21] <leo__> Can tell me your e-mail ?  yofel
[08:22] <leo__> yofel What tools you use chat
[08:22] <gunner05> how do i turn off he scroll weel on the side of my laptop mouse? becuse there is no option in the mouse settings
[08:24] <yofel> leo__: this is getting off topic, so...
[08:24] <yofel> !ot
[08:24] <yofel> and !cn
[08:24] <yofel> !cn
[08:26] <gunner05> oh and about my network problem the usb netgear model is  wnda3100
[08:26] <leo__> so^Thank you
[08:27] <leo__> Come here to learn English is not bad  o(∩_∩)o...
[08:35] <contrast> Greets, everyone. Anyone here know if there's a way to disable the hover-when-near effect on autohidden docks? It doesn't play well with Compiz at all.
[08:37] <gunner05> have you tryed disabaling that effect contrast?
[08:38] <contrast> gunner05: Erm, no. That's kinda what I'm asking how to do. ;)
[08:40] <vivek> hello
[08:40] <gunner05> k go to your system settings and then click on desktop then you will sceen edge
[08:42] <gunner05> there is also desktop effects that may solve the problem too
[08:42] <contrast> gunner05: That's not what I'm talking about, but thanks anyway...
[08:42] <vivek> can any buddy tell me how to increases speed of my internet in linux
[08:43] <contrast> gunner05: I'm referring to the little glow that pops up to let you know you're near a hidden panel.
[08:44] <gunner05> oh that i have been trying to get rid of that my self no luck though
[08:44] <gunner05> sorry :(
[08:45] <vivek> bye
[08:48] <contrast> gunner05: Do you use Compiz?
[08:59] <Lord_Devi> I have this interesting new bug on my 9.10 kubuntu install. My slideshow'ing backgrounds sometimes display the wallpaper with an intense blur. But not always, sometimes the same wallpaper will come back up again, but be in focus. Anyone have any idea what this might be?
[09:00] <astrryn> maybe it has something to do with the resolution of the image files you are displaying?
[09:01] <Lord_Devi> Well some DO require some scaling and cropping. But why would they sometimes be in focus, and then other times not be. Seems to me if it was a problem with the image itself, it would always be out of focus. =/
[09:02] <astrryn> well: maybe the slideshow program requires all images to be the same resolution? Sorry that I can't be of more help.
[09:02] <astrryn> I installed 9.10 for a day; then uninstalled when I realized that it was causing my wi-fi to go bonkers.
[09:02] <astrryn> I'm running 9.04
[09:03] <Lord_Devi> No problem astrryn. I'm just perplexed that it seems to be only me. I couldn't find a bug about it on launchpad. *sigh* Always something new with Kubuntu's KDE!! But I love it so much :(
[09:03] <Tm_T> astrryn: hmm, it shouldn't cause such thing, what was the problem exactly?
[09:03] <ghostcube> astrryn: you can try wicd on karmic
[09:03] <astrryn> my wi-fi kept disconnecting.
[09:03] <astrryn> as in every 5 minutes.
[09:03] <ghostcube> nvidia chipset ?
[09:03] <Lord_Devi> You can also use gnome's network manager just fine in KDE as well. Many other distro's do that because KDE's is known to be wonky
[09:03] <astrryn> if I was dl'ing a torrent it wouldn't give me a problem until I opened up firefox
[09:04] <Lord_Devi> I got lucky, my kde network-manager works fine for me. But I know lots of others claim problems with it.
[09:04] <ghostcube> wicd is the best if no hidden ssids
[09:04] <ghostcube> even for wired lan
[09:04] <astrryn> I'm new to linux in general
[09:05] <astrryn> a few weeks ago I purged my lovely brand new laptop of windows, and installed ubuntu.
[09:05] <astrryn> a lot of people suggested it to me as a good distro for a beginner.
[09:05] <astrryn> and I really do like it a lot.
[09:06] <Lord_Devi> Yeah you can't get more brainless than Ubuntu, that's for damn sure. It's great for people who are curious or want to cross over.
[09:07] <Lord_Devi> Kubuntu is a different beast though. ;) it's a bit more advanced.
[09:07] <astrryn> I'm in the process of learning to program as well. I'm starting with python. So far it has been relatively kind to me.
[09:08] <astrryn> learning the syntax isn't difficult, however my problem solving skills need work.
[09:13] <Lord_Devi> Hehe.. yeah. I'm not a good programmer because I struggle with some of those logistical problem solving issues.
[09:15] <devilsadvocate_> Lord_Devi, you might have thumbnails of the images in the folder or some such thing
[09:15] <Lord_Devi> hey devil!! Yeah I hadn't thought to check for that!
[09:16] <Lord_Devi> Hah, i bet you figured it out.. *runs to check*
[09:19] <Lord_Devi> Yup! There is a .thumbcache directory in my wallpaper directories.
[09:19] <Lord_Devi> Ok well I bet that's it. Now how the heck do I fix it. lol
[09:19] <Lord_Devi> Doesn't even make sense to me KDE would look for images in a .hidden directory..
[09:20] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: those thumbnails are for Dolphin and friends
[09:21] <Lord_Devi> Yeah well that's why I won't just delete the .thumbcache directory. Dolphin is using it. But my wallpaper slideshow shouldn't!
[09:21] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: it does? that's weird
[09:33] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[09:37] <devilsadvocate_> Lord_Devi, i have no thumbcache folder anywhere.
[09:38] <Lord_Devi> devilsadvocate_: No? Hrm.. perhaps it's a gnome thing then? I did use that for a while...
[09:39] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: possible, yes
[09:40] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: actually, now that you mention it... I think Dolphin and others save thumbnails to totally different place, so yes
[09:41] <Lord_Devi> Yeah well that makes sense to me! Put it in some other directory.. don't polute my collections with extra data! :(
[09:42] <Lord_Devi> Yup yup! You are right Tm_T. I got rid of that directory, and can't seem to get kde to recreate it - so you have to be correct about that.
[09:42] <Lord_Devi> Thanks guys. I appreciate it
[09:42] <yamokidzu-it> hello how prevent high cpu use on kde?
[09:42] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: is it high cpu all the time?
[09:43] <yamokidzu-it> yes
[09:43] <Lord_Devi> one more question if anyone knows... Is there a way to get my laptops touchpad in KDE to disable tap-to-click, enable the horizontal scroll on it, and possibly turn it off altogether if I am typing?
[09:43] <Lord_Devi> Gnome has that, and it's wierding me out KDE doesn't seem to :(
[09:43] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: you might like to check what is taking cpu
[09:44] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: does gnome use some particular app for that?
[09:44] <Lord_Devi> It's just under "Mouse" in it's control panel. But I was kind of hoping there might be an app I could install to duplicate that.
[09:44] <yamokidzu-it> could it be the cause I use gnome system monitor instead of ksys?
[09:45] <yamokidzu-it> *ksysguard
[09:46] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: look what it tells you about cpu usage
[09:46] <yamokidzu-it> now it's Xorg
[09:47] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: you have desktopeffects enabled?
[09:47] <yamokidzu-it> don't know
[09:48] <yamokidzu-it> I choosed medium performance...
[09:48] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: in where?
[09:48] <yamokidzu-it> in first wizard window
[09:48] <Tm_T> ok
[09:48] <yamokidzu-it> how can re-use it?
[09:49] <yamokidzu-it> the most used process are xorg and gnome-sys-mon
[09:49] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: try this keyboard shortcut if it makes any difference: alt+shift+F12
[09:49] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: gnome-sys-mon has what kind of cpu percentage?
[09:50] <yamokidzu-it> 3-40 %
[09:51] <Tm_T> heh, close it, launch Konsole and run "top" in it
[09:51] <Tm_T> or, install htop and try that in konsole
[09:51] <yamokidzu-it> help receiving lots of bounce attack messages!!!
[09:51] <yamokidzu-it> ok
[09:51] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: ignore those messages
[09:51] <yamokidzu-it> ok
[09:52] <Tm_T> yamokidzu-it: just don't try receive any files (:
[09:56] <yamokidzu-it> ok thx
[10:01] <Lord_Devi> btw, to answer my own question. The tool, gpointing-device-settings allowed me to configure my touch pad properly.
[10:01] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: good to hear (:
[10:02] <Lord_Devi> Makes me very happy! Getting my shiny KDE desktop working just the way I like now..
[10:02] <Lord_Devi> Now if only I could run different plasmoids on different desktops, and had a kopete contacts plasmoid I'd be set! =)
[10:03] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: latter is coming
[10:04] <Lord_Devi> Yeah I saw on kde brainstorm that someone is apparently working on that. Very much looking foreward to that one.
[10:04] <Tm_T> Lord_Devi: it's working (almost) fine already (:
[10:06] <Lord_Devi> hrm. I don't suppose that's in the ubuntu repos yet? I see a package called plasma-runner-kopete.. could that be it?
[10:08] <Lord_Devi> Oh no no, sorry my bad. It's not
[10:08] <Kolia> Lord_Devi: you could run different plasmoids on different desktop already no?
[10:09] <Kolia> set them in different activity, and activate the option to tie the activities to desktops.
[10:10] <Lord_Devi> Oh yeah? Actually "activities" are new to me. I had just read about them yesterday for the first time..
[10:10] <Kolia> Tm_T: correct me if i'm wrong --^
[10:11] <Kolia> Lord_Devi: zoom out, then "configure plasma" and check "different activity for each desktop"
[10:11] <Kolia> then zoom in back and try to add plasmoid on different desktop
[10:11] <Lord_Devi> Oh yeah!
[10:12] <Lord_Devi> Hey fething awesome.
[10:12] <Kolia> Rock'n Roll :)
[10:13] <Kolia> Lord_Devi: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/HowTo#HowTo   you can find there a lot of screencast for lots of features of plasma.
[10:14] <Lord_Devi> Very nice thanks Kolia!
[10:15] <Lord_Devi> KDE has so many features, but all the cool stuff is kind of tucked away to be found and sought out..
[10:18] <Lord_Devi> Very helpfull btw fellas, I appreciate it all. =)
[10:19] <mvalviar> Hi, cound anyone help me connect to ICQ in kopete?
[10:20] <Tm_T> Kolia: correct
[10:22] <mvalviar> or at least tell me where to read about it. I can't find it on google.
[10:23] <Lord_Devi> Hrmm... Haven't used ICQ in years and years...
[10:24] <Lord_Devi> Don't you just go to Configure->Accounts->Add Account->ICQ Then enter your UIN and password?
[10:28] <Lord_Devi> Hrm need to reboot... brb
[10:28] <holli> hi i am downloading the Penumbra Demo (http://www.penumbragame.com). the linux version is a .sh file of 113MB size.
[10:28] <holli> i'm not sure what to do with it.
[10:28] <holli> i hopr it's not a shell script =)
[10:29] <mvalviar> Lord_Devi: I did that. But it never connects. I just kept on saying connecting
[10:29] <llutz> holli: most likely it is, with embedded binary. chmod +x     it and run
[10:33] <holli> 3 minutes and i'll know
[10:56] <holli> darn, the game runs but i dont see any level graphics.
[10:56] <holli> even though i use latest drivers
[11:02] <Tm_T> holli: perhaps it should be launched from its path?
[11:02] <holli> i did
[11:02] <holli> cd /user/games/penumbra
[11:03] <holli> ./penumbrademo
[11:03] <Tm_T> interesting
[11:03] <holli> but i know my graphics is not optimal
[11:03] <Tm_T> holli: you have desktop effects on?
[11:03] <holli> befor 9,10 plasma did not work at all
[11:03] <holli> yeah
[11:04] <Tm_T> holli: hit alt-shift-F12 to disable it temporarily and try run it again
[11:04] <Tm_T> run it as the game
[11:06] <holli> nope. daoen't help
[11:06] <holli> *doesn't
[11:06] <Tm_T> hmh, then it might be that your card just doesn't have some capability
[11:06] <holli> but i think it loaded faster
[11:06] <Tm_T> OR you need some wonky settings for X
[11:06] <holli> yít's a R500 thinkpad
[11:07] <Tm_T> hmm, that should be well enough I think
[11:07] <holli> and my business machine anyway. i was just hoping i could get a litte game other than FrozenBubble =)
[11:08] <Tm_T> holli: there's always kde-games
[11:08] <holli> but, many thx for your effort
[11:08] <Tm_T> np
[11:08] <holli> kde games, rofl
[11:09] <holli> nothing to kill xD
[11:09] <Tm_T> holli: or, Teeworlds if you like some quick multiplayer action
[11:10] <Tm_T> anyway, this doesn't have much to do kubuntu anymore (:
[11:12] <holli> mmh. ./teeworlds .... 4b0284f1][gfx]: unable to set video mode: OpenGL not available
[11:12] <holli> there we have it
[11:13] <Tm_T> holli: aww, shame
[11:14] <holli> yupp. penumbra is opengl based too
[11:15] <holli> still that pinpointed the problem. /me goes looking into some settings
[11:28] <sayyaf> any one who know how to connect to internet with dialup bluetooth with phone in ubuntu 9.04?
[11:28] <sayyaf> help me
[11:31] <tsimpson> sayyaf: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[11:34] <sayyaf> tsimpson: ok thank u
[11:37] <moreno> sant'antoniooo
[11:39] <corigo2> How can I found out which DNS servers I'm currently using? and further more, how can I change them?
[11:39] <tsimpson> corigo2: it's stored in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:41] <tsimpson> you can edit that file by changing the "nameserver ..." parts
[11:41] <yofel> corigo2: to change them edit your network manager profile if you use NM
[11:41] <yofel> corigo2: NM overwrites /etc/resolv.conf
[11:41] <tsimpson> no, nm edits it
[11:42] <tsimpson> well, dhcp overwrites it
[11:42] <tsimpson> and nm edits that, via dhcp
[11:42] <yofel> tsimpson: ok, didn't know that
[11:43] <tsimpson> yofel: in my mind it's simple, but I realized when trying to explain it, that it's a complex relationship between them
[11:44] <corigo2> Hmm. well I edited it by NM and now my resolvl.conf is blank so I have no idea what DNS I'm now using
[11:45] <corigo2> Ok, bad pathing. file is there, but certainly hasn't updated since I edited with NM. Does it matter how many nameservers are entered? Do they have to be made unique somehow?
[11:46] <tsimpson> there should be a max of 3 name servers usually
[11:47] <tsimpson> and they should be IP addresses
[11:47] <tsimpson> that's about it
[11:47] <corigo2> but do they need to be prioritised, or numbered, or anything like that?
[11:48] <tsimpson> no, the ones mentioned first will get used first
[11:48] <tsimpson> they are just like "nameserver 123.123.123.123", one per line
[11:50] <yofel> corigo2: you DID reconnect after editing your NM profile?
[12:04] <amichair> since upgrading to karmic, the screensaver and/or monitor power off never activates, any ideas?
[12:11] <petsounds> Hi.. i have problem with Kubuntu Karmic. here's the screenshot http://imagebin.org/71964 . i really can't understand why this is happening because i never have this problem in the previous release of kubuntu and i hope anybody here can help me. thank you
[12:11] <moreno> hola
[12:11] <moreno> pet one moment
[12:13] <moreno> se nè iuto
[12:40] <mfalc> hola
[12:44] <freddyyzaguirre> hola
[13:53] <amichair> since upgrading to karmic, the screensaver and/or monitor power off never activates, any ideas?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:59] <amichair> BluesKaj: hey BluesKaj, long time :-)
[13:59]  * amichair was previously known as amik
[14:00] <BluesKaj> hi  amichair , ok now I recall , amik
[14:01] <moreno> blueskaj
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hi moreno
[14:01] <moreno> inculidioca
[14:02] <moreno> how are you?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> i'm ok
[14:03] <amichair> pretty quiet here last few days
[14:03] <moreno> tiram annaz
[14:16] <BluesKaj> quiet because it seems kubuntu karmic is quite stable and has fewer issues than prvious releases
[14:16] <BluesKaj> where as gome ubuntu seems busier than ever
[14:20] <BluesKaj> gnome rather
[14:20] <amichair> I've done some bug fixing the past couple of weeks, really want to see the LTS be rock-solid
[14:21] <amichair> it looks like karmic is pretty close, and with kde 4.4 the remaining kinks should hopefully be ironed out
[14:23] <jimmy51_> i've got an i7 with 8GB of DDR3, 500 GB HDD.  what should my swap size be, 16 GB?
[14:26] <amichair> jimmy51_: following a general rule of thumb for desktops, yes, unless u have some specific special scenario
[14:29] <somekool> anyone got subversion working with kwallet under Kubuntu 9.10 ?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> the LTS lucid alpha will be out for testing on Dec 10 or so . I t should be interesting what they do with agenda driven apps like pulseaudio , which have no business mucking the sound up for simple setups. I guess it's ok for ppl who want surround sound on their pc , but personally I don't think it should be default.
[14:35] <jimmy51_> amichair: thanks
[14:37] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, 16G for swap is overkill , especially with 8G of ram
[14:37] <jimmy51_> i set it for 8GB
[14:38] <BluesKaj> still a waste :)
[14:38] <jimmy51_> hehe
[14:38] <BluesKaj> but it's your space
[14:38] <amichair> yes, it might be, depending on what u do. but if u have disk space to spare, it shouldn't matter (bluesKag: is that last part right?)
[14:39] <Tm_T> amichair: yep
[14:39] <amichair> BluesKaj: can having too much temp space hurt anything, if u have the disk space?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> the rule of thumb goes out the window once 4G Ram is reched
[14:39] <Tm_T> amichair: swap is not temp btw
[14:39] <jimmy51_> i've got two 500GB HDD's and pretty much unlimited storage available on the network so 8GB is fine.  I'll be running at least one VM 24x7 in addition to the host environment so i figure swap is a good idea
[14:39] <amichair> Tm_T: sorry, meant swap
[14:39] <amichair> doesn't that sound a bit like '640k should be enough for anyone?' :-)
[14:39] <BluesKaj> no it won't hurt , with 8G ram, swap will prolly be used very little,if at all
[14:40] <amichair> maybe he'll want to do heavy video/image processing down the line, or run several virtual machines, etc...
[14:42] <amichair> jimmy51_: but I think u know the answer for ur needs just as well as anyone here :-)
[14:42] <jimmy51_> yeah
[14:42] <jimmy51_> i like asking in here... you get several answers with reasoning for each one
[14:42] <jimmy51_> and then make a better decision than guessing
[14:43] <amichair> jimmy51_: yeah, it's a great place to learn all sorts of things that are good to know :-)
[14:43] <BluesKaj> VMs are a different story , I have little experience with them and how they use memory
[14:44] <amichair> I use virtualbox, which is great. u can setup how much memory u want for each vm. with enough ram, it holds it all in memory of course
[14:44] <BluesKaj> I'm prolly just envious ..still running a 4yrold pc with 2G Ram and a 160G hdd
[14:44] <jimmy51_> doh
[14:44] <amichair> BluesKaj: I just upgraded from my p4/1g not that long ago :-)
[14:44] <BluesKaj> and will be for a while
[14:45] <yofel> BluesKaj: the OS in the vm needs RAM like every other OS, so if you tell the VM to virtualize 2GB RAM you'll have -2GB RAM available for the OS you're running the VM on (swap counts as RAM)
[14:45] <jimmy51_> BluesKaj: i was using the same workstation i had when i started here.  i have some toolsets that conflict with each other, so the solution was VM's.  this thing was chugging so bad i finally fired a note to my boss
[14:45] <jimmy51_> a week later, a core i7 system showed up in my office :)
[14:45] <amichair> BluesKaj: with today's prices and better power consumption (and p4's terrible power consumption), it might be worth upgrading... not to mention your time
[14:46] <BluesKaj> thanks yofel
[14:47] <ewoerner> hi
[14:47] <ewoerner> why does the kubuntu installer feel slow as hell?
[14:48] <amichair> ewoerner: how so?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> amichair, I'm using an amd64, 2ghz cpu with ondemand stepping so it's not as zippy as some but it's ok for my needs , just using it at home and i'm retired so there's no real workload on it most of the time
[14:48] <ewoerner> amichair: it takes minutes switching from one page of the installer to the next, password input lags like 5 seconds, ...
[14:49] <amichair> BluesKaj: oh, that's not as old as I figured :-)
[14:49] <ewoerner> the actual install does not seem to inhibit that problem
[14:49] <amichair> ewoerner: what r u installing from? livecd? usb?
[14:49] <ewoerner> sd card
[14:49] <ewoerner> feels like something is stealing all cpu time
[14:50] <amichair> ewoerner: maybe it has to do with the sd card access?
[14:51] <ewoerner> amichair: no, that shouldn't have any influence on password editing
[14:52] <BluesKaj> ewoerner, a sd card accessing thru the buss can be really slow ...just think about copying pics and from them , a 700mb file is going to take a while
[14:52] <amichair> ewoerner: true, unless it's doing disk i/o in the background. I find my desktop can crawl to a halt with lots of disk activity even on a HD, so a slow sd card might do the same
[14:53] <amichair> ewoerner: r u installing on a netbook?
[14:53] <ewoerner> amichair: not exactly
[14:53] <ewoerner> an eee box
[14:54] <amichair> ewoerner: if it has usb input and u have a free flash stick, you can try making it bootable and installing from there
[14:54] <ewoerner> i'll recheck with a card reader later so that i can check sd card activity
[14:54] <amichair> ewoerner: karmic has a built-in usb disk creator in the menus, very convenient
[14:55] <ewoerner> amichair: yeah, i already used that one for creating the sd card
[14:55] <ewoerner> i don't have any usb stick at hand atm
[14:55] <starwolf> man if bitbee wreks  this any more
[14:55] <amichair> ewoerner: or maybe via network cable (never tried that though)
[14:56] <jimmy51_> why does the hardware driver panel have two offereings for nvidia, 173 and 185... with 185 recommended but 173 selected?
[14:56] <amichair> ewoerner: or, just let it conitnue as slowly as it is... once it's installed locally on a hd, it should be ok
[14:57] <ewoerner> amichair: yeah, as i said, it looks like it's only the installer interface
[14:57] <ewoerner> the actual installation seems to be quite fast
[14:57] <starwolf> does anyone knwo how the heck you gt bitlbee to run?
[14:57] <amichair> jimmy51_: I think some real old models need 173 and are no longer supported in 185, so u have the option there
[14:57] <starwolf> installed configured and tweeked via ubunut page no luck
[14:57] <jimmy51_> amichair: ah, that makes sense.  thanks.
[14:58] <amichair> jimmy51_: I personally use the new 190s off nvidia site, work great :-)
[14:59] <starwolf> ?
[15:03] <amichair> since upgrading to karmic, the screensaver and/or monitor power off never activates, any ideas?
[15:04] <SunlessHalo> yo
[15:04] <SunlessHalo> using Kubuntu Karmic amd64, fresh install... some plasma applets are fucking up...
[15:05] <amichair> SunlessHalo: did u run and update/upgrade after the fresh install?
[15:06] <SunlessHalo> I've created a simple panel for storing application launcher icons, some 3 separators included... these objects swap their positions on the panel arbitrarily
[15:06] <ghostcube> SunlessHalo: printer applet ?
[15:06] <SunlessHalo> ghostcube: hello sir ;)
[15:06] <ghostcube> hi :)
[15:07] <ghostcube> SunlessHalo: karmic fresh install is buggy
[15:07] <ghostcube> :)
[15:07] <BluesKaj> amichair, my scrnsaver activates but runs only for 20 mins or so , but I have the power management devil turned off sinc e this isn't alaptop
[15:07] <SunlessHalo> well, i've installed RC and since then installed all official updates
[15:07] <ghostcube> maybe try to get the kde 4.3.3 release and the packages from the proposed repositories
[15:07] <ghostcube> :)
[15:07] <ghostcube> 4.3.3 is in ppa
[15:07] <amichair> BluesKaj: I've always had screen saver, and a while later power off. now I wake up in the morning and the screen is on, always
[15:08] <SunlessHalo> even applets on dashboard sometimes move or resize by themselves
[15:08] <ghostcube> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.3
[15:08] <amichair> ghostcube: aren't a bunch of ppl having trouble with 4.3.3 as well?
[15:08] <ghostcube> and open the karmic-proposed repo
[15:08] <ghostcube> amichair: works better than 4.3.2
[15:08] <ghostcube> for me
[15:08] <BluesKaj> no probs here with 4.3.3 so far
[15:09] <amichair> ghostcube: ok... just remember hearing ppl here want to downgrade back to 4.3.2
[15:09] <ghostcube> printer applet keeps crashing for me BluesKaj
[15:09] <SunlessHalo> and, what I've realized recently, when clicking on the clock instance, instead of normal calendar applet, a calendar applet appended with another one, called "today", not controlable, is opened
[15:09] <BluesKaj> the blame is misdirected I think
[15:10] <amichair> maybe I'll take a look at printer applet bugs... it's are self-deved by kubuntu right?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> printer applet ?
[15:10] <ghostcube> yeah doesnt bother it you ?
[15:10] <D-coy> jo la m4v :P
[15:10] <BluesKaj> I don't even have one
[15:10] <ghostcube> sure :D dpkg -l *printer*
[15:10] <ghostcube> heh
[15:11] <SunlessHalo> also, any advice for me?
[15:11] <ghostcube> amichair: i think so yes
[15:11] <ghostcube> SunlessHalo: try to upgrade or wait
[15:11] <ghostcube> its buggy for all i know oso far :D
[15:11] <ghostcube> my webcam works one day one day it doesnt
[15:11] <ghostcube> and no one knows why
[15:11] <ghostcube> lol
[15:12] <SunlessHalo> well, the calendar oddity appeared only on today...
[15:12] <ghostcube> o.o
[15:12] <ghostcube> daily regressions are bad
[15:12] <ghostcube> lol
[15:14] <BluesKaj> ghostcube, if i need to print something , i just click on file ...I delete seldom used icons in the panel anyway
[15:14] <ghostcube> BluesKaj: nope you cant use this applet
[15:15] <ghostcube> it appears if you print or it configgs in systemsettings
[15:15] <ghostcube> :)
[15:15] <ghostcube> its not an widget
[15:15] <BluesKaj> in system settings ?
[15:15] <ghostcube> i dont even know what it does exactly
[15:15] <ghostcube> i always do my things in cups web frontend
[15:16] <BluesKaj> it's for configuring your printer  ...are you on karmic ?
[15:19] <frany> I've just connected my newly bought lcd screen to my laptop, but it turns black after only a few seconds. It's connected via VGA. I've restarted both X and the entire system to no avail.
[15:20] <frany> according to xrandr the output resolution is as desired (1920x1200) and in the short timespan after activating the screen or changing the configuration it seems okay (but then it turns itself off before I even can check the monitor-menu)
[15:21] <SunlessHalo> bitte was soll ich mit dem kallender applet denn machen?
[15:21] <frany> any pointers to what might be wrong here?
[15:21] <SunlessHalo> ugh.. sry.. pls any advice with the calendar applet?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> SunlessHalo, are you using the clock applet ?
[15:23] <SunlessHalo> correct
[15:23] <BluesKaj> or widget?
[15:23] <SunlessHalo> ehm
[15:23] <SunlessHalo> widget
[15:24] <amichair> hmm... I just noticed a 'Today' widget on the bottom of the calendar too... strange
[15:24] <SunlessHalo> both the default system one (digital one, on the tray), and the SVG themable analog one too
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I'm using the digital clock widget which also displays the day and date , if that's what you guys mean by the "calendar"
[15:26] <SunlessHalo> whereas the calendar-only applet doesn't include the "today" stuff
[15:26] <amichair> BluesKaj: the regular taksbar clock, when clicked, opens up a calendar. below the bottom of the calendar tehre's an attached 'Today' section with nothing in it, that can be dragged separately, not sure what it does, and never seen it before
[15:27] <SunlessHalo> if I tried to detach it, the settings menu was called "collection settings" with only shortcut configurable...
[15:27] <amichair> maybe it's supposed to be integration with scheduling apps or something, but it sure looks strange when empty
[15:28] <amichair> clicking on the little icon near 'today' expands/extracts a bit... I think it's supposed to be filled in with events
[15:29] <SunlessHalo> yeah
[15:29] <SunlessHalo> clicking on a day used to open the Kalendar program
[15:30] <SunlessHalo> now, it does nothing...
[15:30] <BluesKaj> amichair, dunno what you mean , show me your's and ai'll show you mine http://imagebin.ca/view/0jRNZpt.html
[15:30] <peabody> ugh this is retarded.. how can I manually create a default wireless profile in /etc/default or something so my home wireless network connects automatically on boot?
[15:30] <peabody> Right now I have to delete the connection, create the connection and reconnect every boot and it's retaded
[15:31] <BluesKaj> peabody, network manager ?
[15:31] <peabody> ]No network manager is broken
[15:31] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[15:31] <peabody> plus, it doesn't create a system connection, it creates a per user connection
[15:32] <bradpitt> i don't know why i have black screen after reboot :(
[15:32] <peabody> I don't want a GUI to pick a wireless network
[15:32] <SunlessHalo> and, as I say, the separate calendar widget doesn't create the today fuck
[15:32] <peabody> I want to edit /etc/network/interfaces or something to write in my default home network
[15:33] <BluesKaj> peabody, perhaps a solution for you is to configure /etc/network/interfaces to include nameservers and IPs for your pc and gateway
[15:33] <peabody> so when I boot up, and don't log in, it will connect to my wireless network
[15:33] <SunlessHalo> BluesKaj: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/657563/Pictures/plocha1.png
[15:34] <SunlessHalo> Dnes means Today in Slovak :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> peabody, I use  /etc/network/interfaces , but not as wifi .. I think the wifi is bit more labour intensive to setup correctly
[15:34] <bradpitt> anybody here have solution for my black screen right after kdm logon ?
[15:35] <amichair> BluesKaj: http://imagebin.ca/view/gi1YycHq.html
[15:37] <amichair> bradpitt: completely black? no mouse pointer? alt-f2 shows nothing? etc.?
[15:38] <bradpitt> amichair : no, i can see mouse pointer and alt-f2 .
[15:39] <SunlessHalo> bradpitt: using KWin?
[15:39] <amichair> bradpitt: maybe try copying your ~.kde folder to ~.kde.bak, then login (u can do this via ctrl-alt-f2 before login), then login again and it will auto-generate a default desktop
[15:40] <emen> hello guys
[15:40] <SunlessHalo> i'd definitely start with disabling kwin
[15:40] <amichair> bradpitt: I'll rephrase: ctrl-alt-f2 takes u to console, ctrl-alt-f7 back to gui. do this at the login screen
[15:40] <emen> I'd like to ask a question if anyone got a moment
[15:40] <bradpitt> SunlessHalo : im sorry im new to kde, this is my first time using kde. so i dont know what is Kwin. but it's a fresh install, that blackscreen comes after i reboot my computer during installation of nvidia 185 driver
[15:40] <BluesKaj> amichair, hmm I can't drag my calendar anywhere , it's stuck there
[15:40] <BluesKaj> amichair, http://imagebin.ca/view/F8BVg2R.html
[15:40] <amichair> !ask | emen
[15:41] <genii> From gui->console you need the ctrl with alt-FunctionKey# for console->gui just alt-f7
[15:41] <amichair> BluesKaj: I can drag each part (calendar or today) separately from the title (cursor turns into a hand)
[15:42] <emen> I got kubuntu on VMware and I'd like to connect using winscp, but host refuses, it also refuses from within (ssh username@localhost)
[15:42] <SunlessHalo> bradpitt: have you enabled the special (composition) window effects such as desktop wall/cube, window flipping, opacity ftw
[15:43] <amichair> genii: good to know, though for consistency it's easier to remember and say ctrl-alt-fn always :-)
[15:43] <bradpitt> amichair : and what you mean by that is i have to press ctrl-alt-f7 in every login? can i just fix it permanently?
[15:43] <amichair> emen: did u install an ssh daemon in kubuntu?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> amichair, ok got it , didn't see that before , one has to choose the calendar section
[15:44] <amichair> bradpitt: no, this is just a test to see if a freshly generated kde settings solves the problem. but since u say it occurred right after rebooting for a video driver change, then it's probably because of that :-)
[15:44] <emen> amichair: lemme check, mindlessly assumed that if I got ssh available, service should be there too
[15:45] <SunlessHalo> bradpitt: amichair's point is that, if you remove the KDE settings folder (or copy it somewhere else for backup), it will return to the default state and generate it anew
[15:46] <SunlessHalo> bradpitt: since the folders are in use when KDE is on, you have to do it from the console tty before you fire the KDE
[15:46] <amichair> bradpitt: what graphics card do you have?
[15:46] <bradpitt> ok i think i get it. kde folder in /home?
[15:46] <bradpitt> amichair : nvidia 7200gs
[15:47] <amichair> BluesKaj: I have no issue with the calendar, just notices the strange 'today' panel after SunlessHalo mentioned it... don't see it in ur screenshot
[15:47] <bradpitt> SunlessHalo : im sorry what is tty?
[15:47] <emen> amichair: apparently it wasnt installed, my bad thx :)
[15:47] <amichair> emen: cheers :-)
[15:48] <SunlessHalo> bradpitt: well, a console that is running on background... on TTY7, all the graphics and also KDE is running on
[15:48] <amichair> bradpitt: just hit ctrl-alt-f2 and you'll see what it means :-) (and ctrl-alt-f7 to return)
[15:49] <SunlessHalo> also when kwm starts, you switch by pressing ctrl+alt+F2 to open tty2 with a blank console... if you press ctrl+alt+F7, you get back to the tty7 with your desktop environment running
[15:50] <SunlessHalo> or, you may choose the xterm session instead of doing that in tty...
[15:50] <amichair> so, anyone have any idea why my screen saver/power ain't working?
[15:51] <SunlessHalo> BluesKaj: realize that your calendar applet also has got some weird lining on its top :P
[15:52] <BluesKaj> SunlessHalo , yeah but I'm not worried ..it works :)
[15:54] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, did you install the nvidia-glx-185 driver separately or are you using the default?
[15:57] <bhabalinux> My keyboard is disabled as soon as I log into Kubuntu 9.10 from today. Is there anyone who could help me!
[15:58] <bhabalinux> My keyboard is disabled as soon as I log into Kubuntu 9.10 from today. Is there anyone who could help me!
[15:58] <bhabalinux> I can enter my username and password
[15:58] <SunlessHalo> BluesKaj: i suppose he's either confused looking on tty2, or has already hard-reset :D
[15:58] <bhabalinux> and after that I can't type anything
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !patience | bhabalinux
[16:02] <jimmy51_> i'm on a fresh 9.10 install.  I have a microsoft wireless/optical mouse 5000.  it has significant lag and is bothering me.  is this a problem with wireless mice in general, or this particular one?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !bluez | jimmy51_
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !bluetooth
[16:04] <meitnerium> !de
[16:04] <jimmy51_> hmm... it's not bluetooth
[16:04] <jimmy51_> it's a RF deal with it's own USB dongle
[16:06] <amichair> jimmy51_: I would think that the computer sees just a usb mouse, so the delay is probably inherent in the wireless kit (just a guess)
[16:07] <BluesKaj> don't see point of wifi mice anyway
[16:07] <anoneemouse> hi... I just installed kubuntu to its own partition and now when I reboot I get a grub error(unknown partition) and a grub rescue menu
[16:07] <anoneemouse> i installed 9.10 from a usb flash drive
[16:09] <noaXess> i have allways the same problem, if i listen any sound/video or effect, the audio output has a delay at the beginning.. but then all is fine.. any idea?
[16:11] <emilyy> good evening.. i just installed kubuntu karmic. and somehow it failed at booting process and i don't see grub screen. how can i fix it? merci
[16:12] <anoneemouse> emilyy: do you get a grub error?
[16:15] <emilyy> anoneemouse : after " Grub Loading.. " it doesn't show usplash only _ blinking
[16:15] <skande> hi everibody
[16:15] <anoneemouse> oh :/ im getting a grub error... just thought maybe we had the same problem
[16:16] <SunlessHalo> seems like leaving part...
[16:16] <SunlessHalo> !bye | All
[16:16] <skande> what "cat /dev/kmem" print ???
[16:16] <skande> sorry
[16:16] <skande> /dev/mem
[16:17] <Originooo> hey, (where/how) can i set bitrate of Lame(mp3) in k3b?
[16:17] <Originooo> i habe always output with 128kbit
[16:17] <Originooo> have ;)
[16:19] <skande> ???
[16:19] <skande> ...-_________-
[16:19] <skande> hey is everybodi here ??
[16:19] <Originooo> should i join k3b for answers?
[16:23] <jimmy51_> amichair, BluesKaj: eh, the point is the tower is annoyingly far away from the front of the desk
[16:23] <noaXess> has anyone a hint how i can fix my sound problem?
[16:27] <skande> hey
[16:28] <skande> can somebdy answer me
[16:28] <skande> hey guys !!
[16:29] <anoneemouse> hi skande
[16:29] <skande> hi
[16:29] <anoneemouse> do you want to know what someone elses devmem prints?
[16:30] <skande> yes
[16:30] <skande> thankxxx
[16:30] <anoneemouse> mine prints a whole bunch of gobledygook
[16:30] <anoneemouse> which i guess is to be expected
[16:31] <skande> yes but whats it ?
[16:31] <skande> the kernel memory ??
[16:32] <skande> i search to modify syscalls
[16:32] <anoneemouse> man mem
[16:32] <skande> but i havent
[16:32] <skande> the capability
[16:32] <skande> CAP_SYS_MODULE
[16:32] <skande> so i cant write
[16:32] <skande> a module which can do that
[16:33] <anoneemouse> you mean you want to write to /dev/mem?
[16:33] <skande> yyessssssssssss
[16:34] <anoneemouse> i dont know much about low level programming... but did you try write()?
[16:34] <skande> so how do i do
[16:35] <anoneemouse> what do you want to accomplish, maybe there is a higher level api that can help
[16:35] <skande> thats not the problem
[16:35] <skande> listen i ll explain
[16:35] <skande> tou
[16:35] <skande> you
[16:35] <anoneemouse> ok :)
[16:35] <skande> do u know
[16:36] <skande> what the syscalls are ??
[16:36] <tsimpson> !enter
[16:36] <tsimpson> syscalls are calls to kernel functions, ie those which execute in kernel-space rather than user-space
[16:36] <maco> skande: um these are programming questions, not "how do i use kubuntu" questions
[16:36] <tsimpson> which is a little offtopic
[16:37] <skande> yes
[16:37] <anoneemouse> nope sorry i dont know linux programming, but afaik they should all be in the man pages
[16:37] <skande> ah ok
[16:37] <maco> skande: you may want to look into the Kernel Newbies group if you want to learn to hack the kernel
[16:37] <skande> so you cant help me (anonemous)
[16:37] <skande> ok
[16:37] <anoneemouse> nope not really...
[16:37] <tsimpson> as a clue, you should never, ever, ever, ever, EVER! need to write to /dev/mem
[16:38] <tsimpson> ever.
[16:38] <anoneemouse> maybe he wants to write a virus for linux tsimpson :P
[16:38] <skande> no
[16:38] <skande> i want to write a keylogger
[16:38] <tsimpson> eww
[16:38] <skande> whitout
[16:38] <tsimpson> but you still don't need to write to /dev/mem
[16:39] <skande> recompile the kernel
[16:39] <BluesKaj> sounds like some gave bad  advice ..." a little knowledge is a dangerous thing " sometimes
[16:39] <skande> i haven't the capability CAP_SYSMODULE
[16:39] <tsimpson> !info lkl
[16:39] <tsimpson> either use that, or download the source to see how they do it
[16:39] <maco> skande: really, this is offtopic
[16:40] <skande> where is the topic for kernel's hacking
[16:40] <skande> ??
[16:40] <skande> (this my first time whit irc)
[16:40] <tsimpson> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[16:40] <skande> 1. lkl don't work for my laprop
[16:40] <tsimpson> also try ##linux
[16:41] <skande> 2. i want to write a keylogger bymyself
[16:41] <jimmy51_> i'm impressed.  fresh install of 9.10 required pretty much no tweaking for everything to work correctly.  hooray!
[16:41] <skande> not dowloading one
[16:41] <skande> thankxxxxx
[16:41] <kgeek> i have a prob i m getting logged out many times automtically ..
[16:42] <tsimpson> skande: try ##linux or #ubuntu-kernel
[16:42] <skande> thanksss
[16:42] <maco> i dont think #ubuntu-kernel is the place for that
[16:42] <maco> thats for people working *on* ubuntu's default kernel. not for people wanting to learn how to break it :P
[16:43] <skande> ok So ##linux ;)
[16:44] <maco> skande: you want #kernelnewbie on irc.oftc.net
[16:44] <kaddi> !seen ign0ramus
[16:45] <kosta> heloo
[16:45] <kaddi> helo
[16:46] <skande> ah yeah good idea
[16:46] <skande> i will try
[16:47] <SiVA_> I installed xfsprogs, but when I do: "modprobe xfs" I get "FATAL: Module xfs not found"
[16:49] <kgeek> any one there
[16:49] <kgeek> help me with my problem!
[16:53] <BluesKaj> !ask | kgeek
[16:53] <BluesKaj> time for my daily walkk, BBL
[16:54] <kgeek> BluesKaj: i  had asked my question earlier no one replied that's y  i said so..
[16:54] <kgeek> BluesKaj: i m getting logged out ..automatically many times that's y
[16:55] <eagles0513875> hey guys im having issues with windows vista picking up a samba shared printer
[16:55] <eagles0513875> its giving me a hex error but i have everythign on samba configured correctly and setup correctly in cups
[17:00] <SiVA_> After running Amarok for a few hours, all of a sudden it just stops working. I restart amarok and it says ""The audio playback device 'HDA Intel analog...' doesn't work"
[17:00] <SiVA_> I really don't want to reboot and have to reload 20+ apps
[17:02] <SiVA_> so how could I just "reboot" the sound system?
[17:03] <anoneemouse> hi... i installed 9.10 on my second drive and now im getting a grub error when i boot: no such partition
[17:04] <anoneemouse> i tried to install grub manually with grub-install or something like that but it didnt help at all
[17:04] <eagles0513875> SiVA_: i have had that issue i usually start the stream again and it keeps playing just fine
[17:06] <SiVA_> eagles0513875: sound doesn't work from anywhere though....
[17:07] <eagles0513875> SiVA_: try sudo/etc/init.d/alsabase restart
[17:09] <SiVA_> eagles0513875: alsabase command not found
[17:09] <SiVA_> alsa-utils perhaps?
[17:10] <rstob911> SiVA_: open the mixer and make sure the pcm slidder is up
[17:11] <SiVA_> rstob911: Yea, it's alll maxed... it just stops working after awhile.. only restarting my computer fixes it. I'm sure there's some other way to restart just the sound
[17:11] <eagles0513875> SiVA_: try alsa restart then
[17:12] <rstob911> SiVA_: did you install the pulse audio driver
[17:12] <SiVA_> no go... after restarting alsa, then starting amarok, amarok complains that the sound device isn't working... youtube in browser doesn't work either
[17:13] <SiVA_> rstob911: I didn't do anything special with the default 9.10 install. Should I install pulse?
[17:14] <rstob911> i had this exact problem yesterday and i installed pulse and whalla works
[17:15] <rstob911> after installing pulse make sure your pcm slidders are up
[17:15] <SiVA_> rstob911: ok, anything I have to do after installing? I mean, to configure it?
[17:16] <rstob911> yes you will need to go to system settings then sound then make sure pulse is on top and test it
[17:17] <rstob911> on all the tabs in the settings make sure pulse driver is on top
[17:17] <ign0ramus> kaddi: you there?
[17:17] <kaddi> yes
[17:18] <ign0ramus> kaddi: did you see this: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[17:18] <kaddi> no
[17:18] <ign0ramus> kaddi: it's no miracle, but flash seems to run much smoother with this
[17:19] <ign0ramus> kaddi: i just installed it a few minutes ago, but testing has gone well, and no crashes so far
[17:19]  * ign0ramus crosses fingers
[17:19] <ghoulsblade> hi all, is there a nice plasma/traybar widget for cpu-freq-scaling in karmic ?   in jaunty it was possibly by rightclicking the battery thing, but not anymore =(
[17:19] <ghoulsblade> (e.g. ondemand, powersafe, performance..)
[17:20] <dual> Can I get KDE 4.4 in Ubuntu now?
[17:21] <kaddi> ign0ramus: I actually tried the nomodeset thing on my laptop, left X unable to find the screen :p It wasn't really successful
[17:21] <SiVA_> rstob911: I guess I should stop alsa server now right? looks like I'll have to restart... using pulse at least I don't get errors from Amarok anymore
[17:22] <rstob911> no dont stop alsa
[17:22] <ign0ramus> kaddi: i'm not sure if that is even recommended for karmic (i know some had success in Jaunty w/ KMS)
[17:22] <kaddi> I removed the xorg.conf as well (uxa and greedy intel settings) and since then I get a normal speed OS for about 1-2hours... I just have to reboot frequently and the pc is usable.. Now I wish they had pushed for that 10sec boottime
[17:22] <kaddi> removing the xorg.conf gave me 20sec of idle time before the login screen appears though, so it's not ideal, especial with the frequent reboots
[17:22] <ign0ramus> kaddi: i have the same experience... If I leave my laptop on overnight, performance is slow in the morning until i reboot...
[17:23] <rstob911> SiVA_: dont stop alsa just go into the sound settings and put pulse on top
[17:24] <nasrullah> hi to all
[17:24] <ign0ramus> ghoulsblade: I checked through the default ones, and there doesn't seem to be one... either find one at kde-look.org or use System Settings
[17:24] <nasrullah> shutdown and restart problem in karmic ..your help please
[17:24] <rstob911> SiVA_: your system will still need to use alsa for certain things
[17:24] <bradpitt> hi.. i still can't fix my blackscreen.. screenshot http://imagebin.org/71996 . please help.. thanks :)
[17:25] <ign0ramus> bradpitt: is "plasma-desktop" running?
[17:25] <ghoulsblade> ign0ramus, thanks, i'll look there =)
[17:25] <ign0ramus> ghoulsblade: np
[17:26] <bradpitt> ign0ramus : i didnt change anything, i just installed kubuntu karmic and do update and here's that's the result :(
[17:26] <rstob911> nasrullah: more info please
[17:26] <ign0ramus> bradpitt: if you do alt+f2 and type in "plasma-desktop", does anything come back?
[17:27] <bradpitt> ign0ramus : im sorry, no :(
[17:27] <nasrullah> i am not able to shutdown my pc from the icon...i do it through konsol only...
[17:28] <ign0ramus> bradpitt: hmm... are there any updates that were held back, or do you have any broken packages?
[17:28] <anoneemouse> now i tried to reinstall grub2 and am getting another error
[17:28] <rstob911> nasrullah: have you modified anything since install
[17:29] <anoneemouse> unknown harddrive or something
[17:29] <nasrullah> no
[17:29] <bradpitt> ign0ramus : i guess no, im doing update in konsole but theres no held back updates.
[17:30] <rstob911> if you hit ctrl alt del does the shut down menu come up
[17:30] <ign0ramus> bradpitt: did you add the repo found here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.3
[17:30] <nasrullah> i have upgraded jaunty to karmic from the net
[17:31] <bradpitt> ign0ramus : i believe no, it's just being installed.
[17:31] <nasrullah> yes
[17:31] <ign0ramus> bradpitt: i would try that, and get the latest kde, and see if it fixes your issue
[17:33] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, don't think that will fix it
[17:33] <ign0ramus> hey BluesKaj
[17:33] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj: seems like plasma doesn't want to run for him
[17:34] <rstob911> nasrullah: ok i did that also and i had nothing but problems the best thing to do is download and burn the karmic disk and install and just dont format your /home partition so you wont loose anything
[17:34] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, open kmenu /system/hardware drivers
[17:35] <ign0ramus> nasrullah: do you have kubuntu installed through wubi?
[17:35] <nasrullah> no
[17:35] <bradpitt> ok BluesKaj, and then?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> choose the recommended driver , prolly the glx-185
[17:37] <nasrullah> the problem is my internet is very slow for upgrading has taken me nearly three days..
[17:37] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : the driver you mention is in use
[17:37] <ghoulsblade> ign0ramus : fyi : i found 3 things via plasma-widget-dialog > install new widgets > download new plasma widgets > search for cpu , but 2 of them don't seem to work, and the 3rd only displays cpu-freq, no way to change it
[17:37] <nasrullah> there is no way to fix this
[17:37] <ign0ramus> ghoulsblade: gah... the old way was better.. see if there's another battery widget that has it
[17:38] <ign0ramus> nasrullah: does this help --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311191
[17:38] <ign0ramus> gotta go... just wanted to let everyone know new Flash 10.1 Beta came out today... works OK for me.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, open the terminal and type or copy and paste : glxinfo | grep direct
[17:41] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok i type glxinfo | grep direct but nothing comes up :(
[17:41] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, lspci | grep VGA
[17:44] <bradpitt> Blueskaj : im sorry, i type that not on konsole but with alt-f2. and here's the result of glxinfo | grep direct   emily@emily:~$ glxinfo |grep direct
[17:44] <bradpitt> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[17:44] <bradpitt> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[17:44] <bradpitt> glxinfo: command not found
[17:44] <bradpitt> emily@emily:~$
[17:44] <FloodBotK1> bradpitt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, when ppl tell you to type in the konsole they don't mean alt-f2 , the konsole is the same as the terminal
[17:46] <BluesKaj> alt-f2 is for launching files and applications
[17:46] <Gintulis> how to install elisa media center on kubuntu?
[17:47] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : here's the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/320959/
[17:47] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, ok in the terminal : sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[17:49] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : here's the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/320959 i get this because of canceling updates process of kde 433
[17:49] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : sorry wrong post
[17:50] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:51] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, in the terminal : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:52] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, then : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:52] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok mesa-utils is now installed
[17:53] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, : lspci | grep VGA
[17:53] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[17:54] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, : glxinfo | grep direct
[17:55] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : direct rendering: Yes , GL_EXT_direct_state_access, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord,
[17:56] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, ok , you should b able run plasma now but you need to reboot
[17:57] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok brb :)
[17:58] <kubuntu_> есть кто живой?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> !ru
[17:58] <genii> !ru
[17:59]  * genii hands BluesKaj the prize of coffee
[17:59] <BluesKaj> genii, :)
[17:59] <kubuntu_> how to enter in "REPOSITARY " kubuntu ?
[17:59] <nasrullah> your link did not help at all
[18:00] <BluesKaj> nasrullah, who you talking to ?
[18:00] <kubuntu_> i dont now what is it.. repositary linux , how to enter it??
[18:00] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : im afraid it's still the same :(
[18:00] <genii> !repos | kubuntu_
[18:00] <nasrullah> rstob911 ..link did not help at all
[18:01] <kubuntu_> ubottu snx
[18:01] <BluesKaj> ok, bradpitt describe to me exactly what you are trying to do
[18:03] <nasrullah> no one can help me to fix ..shutdown problem
[18:03] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok, i just installed kubuntu karmic, and then im installed vga driver, and then i reboot, after i login i do update with sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrades, and then i reboot again, and finally after i login this problem happen.
[18:03] <peabody_> where do I create a device entry for bluetooth?
[18:04] <peabody_> they freaking change bluez every other weekend
[18:04] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, in the terminal : do-release-upgrade
[18:04] <peabody_> should I create an /etc/default/bluetooth ?
[18:05] <genii> peabody_: I suspect in one of the .conf files from /etc/bluetooth
[18:05] <peabody_> genii, well it used to be in /etc/default/bluetooth last version
[18:05] <rstob911> peabody_: you cant run kbluetooth and on the icon right click on it then add your device there
[18:06] <BluesKaj> I wish ppl wouldn't use that depracted command  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:06] <peabody_> no kbluetooth is garbage
[18:06] <rstob911> sorry it works perfect for me P
[18:06] <peabody_> I have to open device manager, remove it, click new, turn my mouse discoverable, connect it, and repeat the process every time it times out
[18:06] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok, no new release found
[18:07] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:08] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : i add the ppa for kde 4.3.3 earlier, should i remove it first?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> lf you wish , depends if  you want the latest kde or not
[18:11] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : i'm not sure, i just want this blackscreen fix and then later i do update for kde 4.3.3
[18:11] <BluesKaj> maybe the 4.3.3 will help fixit
[18:12] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok im updating now.
[18:12] <wickedwackguy> hi
[18:13] <wickedwackguy> i accidently got rid of my options in KMIX
[18:13] <wickedwackguy> how do i get it back
[18:13] <wickedwackguy> ?
[18:13] <bradpitt> ETA 30 minutes, i have slow internet connections.
[18:13] <wickedwackguy> i only have the tabs left
[18:14] <wickedwackguy> oh
[18:14] <wickedwackguy> lol
[18:14] <wickedwackguy> ctrl M
[18:14] <wickedwackguy> good to know your here anyways ;)
[18:14] <bipolar> I'm trying to build a package for Kubuntu. The package needs to ask some questions of the user. I'm using debconf for this right now. The problem I'm having is that KPackageKit has no debconf ability, and my user never gets asked these questions. How are others getting around this issue?
[18:15] <wickedwackguy> ooh ooh ooh i have a good question!
[18:15] <wickedwackguy> why doesnt compiz work unless you type it into the terminal to start it?
[18:16] <wickedwackguy> or is this fixed with an update 3 days ago?
[18:16] <bipolar> I don't want to tell my users to open up konsole and type "sudo aptitude install foo", and even if they did that, the package will be broken on the next automatic upgrade because it needs to ask these questions on every install.
[18:16] <bipolar> wickedwackguy: compiz? there's really no point to using compiz with Kubuntu. Kde has it's own fancy window management things built in.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> wickedwackguy, look for the compiz fusion icon in the kmenu and add it to your panel
[18:18] <gizmobay> Anyone have samba printer share from Ubuntu with WinXP working on Karmic?
[18:19] <bipolar> gizmobay: if you just want to share one printer, you could just use cups instead of samba. Is this part of a larger network?
[18:19] <Jonathan__> hello people :) i am trying to get PS3 media server to work on my kubuntu installation yet i am having some difficulties
[18:19] <gizmobay> no just locally on my home
[18:19] <bipolar> gizmobay: the printer is on the ubuntu box?
[18:19] <gizmobay> was working until Karmic upgrade
[18:19] <gizmobay> yes
[18:20] <Jonathan__> following a guide on a blog somewhere they say in regards to Jave RE "You should set environment variable JAVA_HOME to JRE installation path"
[18:20] <bipolar> gizmobay: ok. go into system settings > Printer configuration
[18:20] <bipolar> gizmobay: check the box for "Share Published Printers connected to this system"
[18:20] <gizmobay> okay
[18:21] <gizmobay> okay it is checked
[18:21] <bipolar> gizmobay: then in windows, you add a remote IP printer, in the format "http://ip-or-hostname-of-ubuntu-box:.... let me get this part right...
[18:21] <millenium> salve a tutti
[18:22] <Tm_T> !it
[18:23] <bipolar> gizmobay: "http://ip-or-hostname-of-ubuntu-box:631/printer/PRINTERNAME"
[18:23] <bipolar> gizmobay: then use the windows driver for your printer.
[18:23] <bipolar> gizmobay: I *think* thats the right URL to use....
[18:24] <bipolar> yeah. thats what I have here gizmobay
[18:25] <bipolar> gizmobay: Also, if you have any other Ubuntu boxes in the house, you just need to check the box "Show printers shared by other systems" in the printer configuration, and you will be able to print to them automaticly.
[18:25] <bipolar> gizmobay: it's great if you have a laptop, then the printers come and go as you move on and off your home network.
[18:26] <gizmobay> awesome it works!
[18:26] <gizmobay> thanks!!!
[18:26] <bipolar> gizmobay: pretty slick, eh?
[18:26] <gizmobay> yeah
[18:26] <gizmobay> I've used samba for years
[18:26] <bipolar> gizmobay: and much simpler then messing with samba
[18:27] <gizmobay> don't know why it stopped
[18:27] <gizmobay> oh well
[18:27] <bipolar> gizmobay: samba is useful if you want to auto install windows drivers for the printers and such.
[18:27] <gizmobay> at least samba network shares still work
[18:31] <Jonathan__> anyone wanna help me with ps3 media server?
[18:32] <bipolar> Jonathan__: sorry, I've never touched one.
[18:32] <Jonathan__> an Xbox man i see
[18:34] <bipolar> Jonathan__: nope
[18:34] <joe> i have a ps3
[18:34] <bipolar> Jonathan__: I play WoW. I need no other games :P
[18:34] <joe> i use coherence to play to it
[18:35] <joe> best ive found
[18:35] <joe> its awesome
[18:35] <bipolar> Jonathan__: oh, and I use Wine to play WoW, of course.
[18:35] <Jonathan__> coherence
[18:35] <Jonathan__> ?>
[18:36] <joe> yep
[18:36] <joe> u using kubuntu?
[18:36] <Jonathan__> i dont really care what i use to be honest as long as i can watch movies on the big telly
[18:36] <Jonathan__> yeah course
[18:36] <joe> use the kpackagekit
[18:36] <joe> to install coherence
[18:36] <Jonathan__> no way
[18:36] <joe> then i can give u a sample config
[18:36] <joe> that will get you up and going
[18:37] <joe> save u some time anyway
[18:37] <jimmy51_> !coherence
[18:37] <joe> im kinda new to the shit it took me a minute to figure out
[18:37] <joe> i still dont fully understand it, but it works great, and thats good enough for me
[18:38] <genii> !info coherence
[18:38] <genii> Hm
[18:38] <joe> wonder why its not there
[18:38] <Jonathan__> shut up bot
[18:38] <Jonathan__> it does
[18:38] <Jonathan__> its installing now
[18:38] <joe> its one of the most useful tools ive ever used
[18:38] <joe> yeah, okay, ill go pastebin that conf
[18:38] <joe> sec
[18:38] <Jonathan__> kk
[18:41] <joe> Jonathan__: http://pastebin.com/m35a94ba8
[18:42] <bipolar> Ugh... does anyone know how to build a package that can ask questions of users when installed via packagekit? Packagekit ignores debconf.
[18:42] <Jonathan__> joe where does coherence install to?
[18:42] <joe> what i do, and i dont know if it is right, but it works, what i do is put that text in a .coherence file, put it in root folder, then as root type coherence &
[18:42] <joe> change the folders ofcourse where your media is located
[18:42] <joe> in the conf
[18:42] <joe> .coherence in root folder is where i put it
[18:42] <tsimpson> bipolar: ask in #kubuntu-devel
[18:42] <joe> then just run coherence & as root
[18:42] <Jonathan__> that pastebin file?
[18:42] <joe> yes
[18:42] <bipolar> ok. Thanks tsimpson
[18:43] <joe> it will be working in seconds
[18:43] <Jonathan__> :O
[18:43] <joe> soon as you start coherence go look at video section on ps3
[18:43] <joe> dont even have to search for the media server or anything
[18:43] <joe> will just pop up
[18:43] <Jonathan__> eh my media is in my home folder
[18:44] <joe> then just put /home/jonathan or whatever
[18:44] <joe> where content is
[18:44] <Jonathan__> remove yours and add mine
[18:44] <joe> yeah
[18:44] <joe> if you notice, i even had /home/joe/smb4k as a content folder, so i can browse thru all my windows shares in the house on my ps3
[18:45] <Jonathan__> ok i edited it
[18:45] <Jonathan__> save it as PS3.coherence
[18:45] <Jonathan__> in root?
[18:45] <joe> dont leave the name Daddys Server, thats copyright :)
[18:45] <joe> no
[18:45] <joe> just .coherence
[18:45] <joe> in root folder
[18:45] <Jonathan__> ok changed it to spawn
[18:45] <joe> like if your logged in as root cd ~
[18:46] <joe> actually
[18:46] <joe> if you put it in your user home dir
[18:46] <joe> and run it as a user it would prolly still work
[18:46] <joe> not sure, always did it as root
[18:46] <Jonathan__> aww it wont let me save to root in kate :(
[18:46] <joe> cuz i need root to access some of my content
[18:46] <joe> su
[18:47] <joe> well
[18:47] <joe> just see if you can put it in .coherence in your local home dir
[18:47] <joe> and then run it
[18:49] <Jonathan__> aww
[18:49] <Jonathan__> it didnt save my file
[18:49] <joe> what file?
[18:50] <joe> you prolly cant see it if it starts with a .
[18:50] <joe> type ls -a
[18:50] <joe> to see files that start with a .
[18:51] <lulu> salut
[18:51] <Jonathan__> ok ok how do i cd into root?
[18:51] <Jonathan__> cd ./
[18:51] <Jonathan__> ?
[18:51] <lulu> ou est ce que je peux trouver une liste de serveurs irc plz?
[18:52] <badmuppet> Is that johnathan phan use to work at connect services?
[18:52] <bradpitt> !fr | lulu
[18:52] <lulu> c'est seulement en anglais ici?
[18:52] <gnopak> Hi, I cannot connect to wireless AP with kde4 plasma widget. I can connect to wired network. Can someone help, pls?
[18:53] <Jonathan__> ok
[18:53] <lundh> Hi
[18:53] <gnopak> Jonathan__: cd /
[18:54] <lundh> I just installed kubuntu on a W500, but what do I need to do to get sound to work from flash? (or apps other then kde-based ones)
[18:54] <djustice> gnopak: the knetworkmanager widget is still a work in progress. imho, it shouldnt have been included. but w/e. have you tried nm-applet yet? or wicd?
[18:54] <Jonathan__> one last noob question: how do i run the file from terminal
[18:54] <Vroomfondle> Jonathan__: an executable file?
[18:54] <Vroomfondle> or do you mean you want to edit a file?
[18:54] <Jonathan__> no the ".coherence" file
[18:54] <djustice> lundh: check your mixer settings in kmix, maybe a odd channel is muted?
[18:54] <gnopak> djustice: I tried wicd. It worked at first. Then it started to turn wireless on and off every second.
[18:55] <rstob911> lundh: on the kmix make sure the pcm slissers are up
[18:55] <lundh> djustice: nothing like that
[18:55] <djustice> gnopak: hm, maybe it's your driver. try nm-applet first. just to see. if that fails, then you likely have a driver issue.
[18:55] <Vroomfondle> ah... I dunno anything about "coherence"
[18:55] <Jonathan__> we were just talking about it
[18:55] <lundh> rstob911: oh... why do I need pcm for flash?
[18:55] <joe> Jonathan__:
[18:56] <joe> just type coherence &
[18:56] <rstob911> lundh: it worked for me
[18:56] <gnopak> Will do, I have a Thinkpad T42. I was sure it would be supported. Was I wrong?
[18:56] <djustice> lundh: hm. any different mixers? and im not sure why. but most cards have a 'master' and a 'pcm' channel. flash needs both turned up.
[18:56] <lundh> djustice: it was the pcm-mixer but I dont get what that has to do with flash
[18:56] <lundh> thanbks
[18:57] <gnopak> djustice: Will do, I have a Thinkpad T42. I was sure it would be supported. Was I wrong?
[18:57] <djustice> gnopak: seems like it should be. most thinkpads are linux friendly.. i thought anyway..
[18:57] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : kde 4.3.3 is now installed, need to reboot. brb. we'll see if its fix my blackscreen problem :)
[18:57] <gnopak> djustice: OK
[18:59] <gnopak> djustice: What is the package name for nm-applet?
[19:01] <djustice> gnopak: network-manager-gnome iirc, idk tho. the plasma widget works for me.
[19:04] <djustice> kubuntu 9.10 was a beautiful release. congratz to the team. ;) i love that 'extra functionality' installer that hooks to amarok and nepomuk. what package is that btw? anyone know?
[19:04] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : i still have that problem even after upgrading to kde 4.3.3 :( http://imagebin.org/72010
[19:05] <gnopak> djustice: Thnks, installing now.
[19:05] <bipolar> tsimpson: well, that answers that question. I can't get there from here. :P
[19:05]  * bipolar goes back to the drawing board.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:07] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[19:08] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, that's very strange ..never seen anything like it , any thoughts bipolar ?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> or tsimpson ?
[19:09] <bipolar> bradpitt: does ~/.xsession-errors have any clues?
[19:09] <bipolar> bradpitt: do you have compositing turned on?
[19:10] <tsimpson> that looks like plasma has failed to start
[19:10] <bipolar> yap
[19:10] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : yes, i have installing kubuntu karmic on my netbook but that was fine.
[19:10] <bradpitt> bipolar : how  to do xsession?
[19:10] <bipolar> bradpitt: can you get to a konsole?
[19:11] <bradpitt> bipolar : yes i can
[19:11] <bipolar> oh, good.
[19:11] <bipolar> run 'less ~/.xsession-errors'
[19:11] <gizmobay> I'm using a Geforce 5200 with the 173 drivers. Seems like I always have to do two reboots to get Karmic to boot properly. The first boot goes in low graphics mode
[19:13] <bradpitt> bipolar : there's so many line.. idk how to paste it. something like QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2
[19:13] <gizmobay> I did a pastebin to show the differences between the Xorg.log and Xorg.log.old with the Xorg.log being the good boot..
[19:13] <gizmobay> http://pastebin.com/d3e8abc74
[19:13] <djustice> bradpitt: a buggy plasmoid i bet. possible?
[19:14] <bradpitt> djustice : yes maybe, idk much about kde. kubuntu karmic is my first distro :)
[19:14] <bipolar> bradpitt: can you get a web browser open?
[19:14] <bradpitt> bipolar : yes i can run firefox
[19:15] <bipolar> bradpitt: select the text with the mouse and right-click>copy
[19:15] <bipolar> then go to www.pastebin.ca and paste it into a new pastebin and submit it.
[19:15] <djustice> bradpitt: wow. :) good luck and have fun learning. i would make a newb build an archlinux system first. just to learn. ;] try 'rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc' to erase your plasma settings. or rename it to something else. as a backup.
[19:16] <bipolar> paste the url it gives you here and we can look at it.
[19:16] <bipolar> bradpitt: since this is your first distro, I can assume this is not an upgraded workstation?
[19:16] <bipolar> bradpitt: IOW, you did a fresh install
[19:16] <tsimpson> you can try "kquitapp plasma-desktop" then deleting or moving ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc and or ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc
[19:17] <bradpitt> bipolar : no i can't there's thousand lines in Konsole
[19:17] <tsimpson> then running "kdeinit4_wrapper plasma-desktop" to start plasma again
[19:17] <bipolar> bradpitt: follow tsimpson's advice
[19:17] <bipolar> bradpitt: and we'll go from there.
[19:17] <bradpitt> ok tsimpson
[19:18] <bradpitt> tsimpson : <unknown program name>(1786)/: "Application plasma-desktop could not be found using service org.kde.plasma-desktop and path /MainApplication."
[19:18] <skreech> !commands
[19:18] <tsimpson> bradpitt: that means that plasma wasn't running, so it's ok to continue
[19:19] <bradpitt> tsimpson : continue with deleting plasma applet?
[19:20] <tsimpson> bradpitt: the files, yes
[19:22] <bradpitt> tsimpson : it runs for a moment and then fade to black again
[19:23] <tsimpson> any output in the terminal?
[19:23] <bradpitt> tsimpson : Launched ok, pid = 1822
[19:23] <tsimpson> is that all?
[19:23] <bradpitt> thats all
[19:23] <tsimpson> hmm
[19:23] <BluesKaj> gizmobay, just to be sure : lspci | grep VGA
[19:24] <gizmobay> I made a mistake on my diff file. I was ssh'd into another box
[19:27] <tsimpson> bradpitt: try just typing "plasma-desktop" into the shell
[19:28] <bradpitt> tsimpson : ok it runs for a moment again, but there's so much output in the konsole
[19:28] <tsimpson> can you try to pastebin it?
[19:28] <djustice> bradpitt: make a new user (sudo adduser) and see if that user still has the problem... you have some other kind of configuration failure i think. or try 'rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*'
[19:29] <bradpitt> tsimpson : yes i can, please wait.
[19:29] <djustice> tsimpson: maybe it's a bad wallpaper or a panel went nuts or something. an iffy theme.
[19:29] <bradpitt> djustice : ok ill do that later after pastebin this output :)
[19:30] <BluesKaj> djustice he just installed , he didn't config any themes
[19:31]  * BluesKaj wonders about the monitor driver
[19:31] <bradpitt> tsimpson : http://pastebin.com/m2338a65a
[19:32] <gizmobay> < (II) Initializing extension GLX
[19:32] <gizmobay> looks like this is my issue
[19:32] <gizmobay> When it trys to load this extension
[19:32] <gizmobay> I get the low graphics mode
[19:33] <gizmobay> 02:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[19:33] <yamokidzu-it> hello how adjust sound in kubuntu? please help
[19:34] <djustice> yamokidzu-it: kmix? or menu>systemsettings>multimedia?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> yamokidzu-it, open alsamixer in the terminal , make sure your ctrls are up to 75% or so with no M in the boxes
[19:34] <rstob911> yamokidzu-it: and make sure the pcm slidders are up in kmix
[19:35] <yamokidzu-it> ok thank
[19:35] <djustice> bradpitt: that's a widget failing. someone cant code. ;]
[19:35] <tsimpson> bradpitt: go ahead and try "rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*" and see if plasma starts then, if it does it was reading old config files
[19:35] <yamokidzu-it> don't understand very well
[19:36] <BluesKaj> gizmobay, kmenu/system/hardware drivers choose the recommended one and apply
[19:36] <rstob911> yamokidzu-it: ok on the task bar you see a speaker click on it and when it pops up click kmix
[19:36] <bradpitt> djustice , tsimpson : rm: cannot remove `/home/emily/.kde/share/config/plasma': No such file or directory
[19:37] <yamokidzu-it> sorry don't see any speaker !
[19:37] <djustice> yamokidzu-it: alt+f2; type 'kmix'<enter>; see bars? anything muted? no bars? then alt+f2; type 'konsole'<enter>; type 'alsamixer'<enter> into konsole; see bars? mute channels?
[19:37] <tsimpson> bradpitt: you need the '*' at the end: rm /home/emily/.kde/share/config/plasma*
[19:37] <djustice> bradpitt: ^ :)
[19:37] <gizmobay> BluesKaj, it's already installed 173
[19:37] <yamokidzu-it> no
[19:38] <BluesKaj> gizmobay, make sure it's highlighted and being used
[19:38] <yamokidzu-it> "impossible ex. cmd"
[19:38] <bradpitt> tsimpson : ok, and then?
[19:38] <yamokidzu-it> how install kmix?
[19:38] <tsimpson> bradpitt: try typing "plasma-desktop" again
[19:39] <djustice> yamokidzu-it: it's already installed. with kubuntu. open konsole and type 'kmix &'. does it give an error? or launch kmix?
[19:39] <bradpitt> tsimpson : it runs for a moment again :(
[19:39] <BluesKaj> yamokidzu-it, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-base
[19:40] <tsimpson> bradpitt: still the same output?
[19:40] <bradpitt> tsimpson : yes
[19:40] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, what monitor are you using ?
[19:40] <yamokidzu-it> sorry I choosen kmix only...
[19:41] <bradpitt> tsimpson : its very old. samsung 15" sync master 591 s
[19:41] <yamokidzu-it> I installed kde-base so probably wasn't installed...
[19:41] <yamokidzu-it> ok works thank you
[19:42] <juggle> I have a kubuntu and ubuntu-gnome cds,is it possile to install both of them so that i can use both kde and gnome?
[19:43] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : its very old. samsung 15" sync master 591 s
[19:44] <yamokidzu-it> how can I check volume level by the sound intensity like the sound volume of windows?
[19:45] <yamokidzu-it> I mean the sound that the windows's sound control does when move a bar...ding!
[19:45] <yamokidzu-it> BluesKAj
[19:46] <bradpitt> juggle : choose anything you like, ubuntu or kubuntu. when you have it installed you can add KDE or gnome desktop with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for KDE and sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for gnome
[19:47] <rstob911> juggle: if you already have kubuntu installed all you have to do is go to system settings then software ad remove and type gnome desktop and search by description
[19:47] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, sudo nvidia-xconfig , the alt+f2 then, kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:48] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, copy and paste  /etc/X11/xorg.conf so we can look at it
[19:48] <BluesKaj> in pastebin
[19:49] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok. here it is http://pastebin.com/m237d738d
[19:51] <fjellrev1> I try to empty my trash can, the files go away but when I try deleting further I get an error saying that my trash can is full, anyone have any idea what to do ?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, it looks fine
[19:53] <BluesKaj> yamokidzu-it, in the terminal : sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[19:53] <gizmobay> BluesKaj, it shows the driver as being used
[19:53] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:53] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : it should be fine but idk i never expecting this blackscreen
[19:54] <tsimpson> bradpitt: I'm not sure why it would fail, you could try asking in #kde maybe, and file a bug report here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+filebug (stating the KDE version)
[19:55] <zippy> blackscreen?
[19:55] <zippy> thats what i have when starting kdm
[19:55] <zippy> i found a workaround
[19:55] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : believe it or not i reinstall it twice but by the time i do update this blackscreen happen :(
[19:56] <bradpitt> tsimpson : ok ill do that :)
[19:56] <zippy> i have to press ctrl alt +
[19:56] <zippy> then i can see a low graphics message but nothing works
[19:57] <zippy> then i press esc and everythings fine
[19:57] <zippy> funny ritual for starting graphics
[19:58] <bradpitt> tsimpson : what should i wrote on that launchpad? blackscreen after update on kubuntu karmic?
[19:59] <zippy> very odd that no shell is available, only via ssh
[20:00] <tsimpson> bradpitt: just that plasma fails to start after upgrading to karmic, even after deleting ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*, and attach the output of the "plasma-desktop" command
[20:00] <zippy> nographic+noshell=bad idea
[20:00] <tsimpson> bradpitt: then someone will ask for more information if needed
[20:01] <gizmobay> going to try something. need to reboot.
[20:04] <dmatt> how to report bug in weather widget?
[20:06] <bradpitt> BluesKaj , tsimpson , djustice thanks for yor help.. i hope that my blackscreen problem won't happen in the LTS release. good job to you all. good luck :)
[20:09] <tsimpson> dmatt: report a bug against plasma-widgets-addons
[20:11] <dmatt> tsimpson: thanks, is there an easy way to look into source and check if I see the problem myself?
[20:12] <tsimpson> dmatt: you can get the source with "apt-get source plasma-widgets-addons", that will download the source and extract it in the current directory
[20:16] <gnufreex> Hi all. I have problem with pulseaudio. I installed ubuntu and it is working fine bud I did 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and now ubuntu still works fine but when I boot straight in KDE, I don't have sound
[20:17] <gnufreex> in GNOME i still have sound
[20:17] <gnufreex> And if I boot first in GNOME and then logout and go to KDE, I have sound again
[20:17] <gnufreex> just wont work if I go straigt to KDE
[20:18] <dmatt> gnufreex: try to unmute all channels in mixer
[20:18] <gnufreex> tried that first
[20:18] <gnufreex> same
[20:18] <gnufreex> thanks anyway
[20:19] <gnufreex> it is AD198x sound card
[20:19] <tsimpson> try going to System Settings -> Multimedia -> and move "PulseAudio" up to the top of the list
[20:19] <tsimpson> (or all of the lists)
[20:20] <gnufreex> I think I tried that but I will try again
[20:21] <ewoerner> is it possible to interrupt an update from jaunty to karmic?
[20:22] <ewoerner> i.e. when downloading new packages
[20:22] <gnufreex> i just loged to KDE and now have sound O.o
[20:22] <Vroomfondle> ewoerner: if it's only downloading (hasn't started installing yet), yes
[20:22] <Vroomfondle> otherwise, don't touch it
[20:22] <ewoerner> Vroomfondle: downloading
[20:23] <Vroomfondle> you can generally just close the window or ctrl-c on CLI
[20:23] <Vroomfondle> (if I remember correctly)
[20:23] <ewoerner> okay
[20:23] <tsimpson> pulseaudio is dumb and evil
[20:23] <ewoerner> already late, can't spend another 5 hours watching download progress
[20:23] <tsimpson> and evil and dumb
[20:24] <gnufreex> lol
[20:33] <fjellrev1> Anyone here got any tips on fixing my trash can that doesnt delete files,just makes them invincible?
 What version of Kubuntu? I had same problem with 9.04 and is now fine with 9.10
[20:36] <fjellrev1> im running 9.10
[20:41] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, pulseaudio ian agenda driven app, ...there's a dev over at #ubuntu who's been pushing pulseaudio on ppl since jaunty was released and somehow got it to be included as a default soundserver which really does serve much of a purpose except add another layer of complexity ,loopy digital distortion and choppy audio ..it's awful
[20:42] <BluesKaj> doesn't serve much of a purpose , is what i meant
[20:42] <tsimpson> which is why we don't include it in kubuntu
[20:43] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, I still have it listed in system settings altho it's greyed out even after purging
[20:43] <badmuppet> what is the best browser to on kubuntu
[20:43] <tsimpson> that's just the config (for phonon) saying it was there
[20:44] <badmuppet> firefox not really kde friendly
[20:44] <badmuppet> konquer does not display all sites correctly
[20:44] <tsimpson> try konqueror or arora
[20:44] <BluesKaj> is there a way to get rid of the residual PA ?
[20:44] <badmuppet> e.g http://www.vmware.com
[20:47] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: not sure
[20:48]  * genii sips and tries to figure out what vmware has to do with what is a good KDe wen browser
[20:48] <Bios> I got a problem with my audio device (karmic) http://pastebin.com/m1252c0c8
[20:52] <goodnightvienna> :)
[20:52] <gnufreex> Does someone here use Daisy widget as Dock ? Some apps dont have dot when runing http://tinypic.com/r/eqyrer/6
[20:53] <gnufreex> That blue cube is netBeans IDE and is actualy running
[20:54] <gnufreex> But don't have dot
[20:54] <Bios> I got a problem with my audio device (karmic) http://pastebin.com/m1252c0c8
[20:55] <genii> !intelhda | Bios
[20:56] <genii> Bios: The instructions were for an earlier version but still apply
[21:01] <Bios> ok thx
[21:05] <jimmy51_> fresh 9.10 install, installed kubuntu-restricted-extras.  how can i pop in a dvd and play it?
[21:07] <djustice> jimmy51_: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[21:08] <peter____> hello
[21:08] <jimmy51_> djustice: hmm... there is no libdvdread4
[21:08] <jimmy51_> (on my system)
[21:09] <djustice> jimmy51_: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 :)
[21:09] <peter____> is there anybody online
[21:09] <djustice> peter____: hello :) there are plenty of ppl online ;]
[21:09] <yngnhrnyboi> any irc pros here?
[21:09] <peter____> but nobody is talking?
[21:10] <peter____> i only see some message from system
[21:10] <djustice> peter____: this is a support channel, not a chat channel. do you have a problem with kubuntu?
[21:10] <djustice> yngnhrnyboi: pro irc user? lol. what's the problem?
[21:10] <kgeek> peter____: hello dude
[21:10] <yngnhrnyboi> how do i get other servers?
[21:11] <djustice> yngnhrnyboi: what irc client? konversation? file>serverlist
[21:11] <jimmy51_> djustice: ok, installed and ran install-css.sh.  still not playing in dragon player.  it stays black, gets to 00:01 and crashes if i try to pause/unpause
[21:11] <peter____> just checking the operating system, quite well, stable and pretty fast, compared to vista ;-)
[21:11] <djustice> jimmy51_: try a reboot :? mine worked right after the script though. the script did finish correctly?
[21:12] <jimmy51_> hmm... i'll try a reboot
[21:12] <yngnhrnyboi> ??????
[21:12] <jimmy51_> script appeared to finish properly
[21:12] <kgeek> peter____: are  u the same peter  who is on topcoder.
[21:13] <djustice> yngnhrnyboi: what are you using as an irc program? konversation? xchat? irssi? there are a ton of them.. i cant help if u dunno wut program ur using..
[21:14] <yngnhrnyboi> konversation
[21:14] <Shaxor> Yo, I'm here to ask if anyone uses Emesene?
[21:14] <djustice> jimmy51_: also, the mplayer website has a codec tarball. has just about every codec.
[21:14] <jimmy51_> hmm, it looks like dragon replaced kaffiene.  dragon isn't listed on the restrictedformats/playingDVDs page
[21:15] <djustice> yngnhrnyboi: yea, file>server list. or quick connect. then enter the info. are you looking for other servers to connect to? for a certain reason? google knows a ton of them. i liek dalnet sometimes. im a freenode guy tho rly ;)
[21:15] <djustice> jimmy51_: dragon plays dvd's fine. it's the same subsystem.
[21:16] <djustice> jimmy51_: and nah, not rly replaced. its just a 'really simple to use' video player.
[21:16] <jimmy51_> ok.  i'll just reboot and see if it helps
[21:16] <yngnhrnyboi> im kinda new to this and am looking to find places to talk to other people like me
[21:17] <djustice> yngnhrnyboi: i dunno u or wut kinda server u would liek. #ubuntu-offtopic and #kde-cafe are nice places to chat tho...
[21:17] <yngnhrnyboi> ok i will give those a try
[21:17] <yngnhrnyboi> thanks
[21:18] <keldrona> hello guys. I have got a problem with joomla. Can anyone help me?
[21:19] <djustice> keldrona: does joomla not have an irc channel? you would probably get more help there... or a mailing list if they have one... or you might get lucky here. :) i dunno tho.
[21:23] <kgeek> ant one here to help me with loop to moount iso images
[21:23] <ghostcube> keldrona: what problem even if its not kubuntu related
[21:24] <ghostcube> joomla 1.5 core or any plugin
[21:24] <llutz> kgeek: sudo mount -o loop file.iso mntpoint
[21:24] <kgeek> llutz: thnxx
[21:25] <keldrona> ghostcube: it's simple... I'm trying to install joomla 1.5.15 (I've done it before in another site) and, at the page where database information is needed, I click on the button "next" and nothing happens... it looks like I'm clicking in the void
[21:25] <ghostcube> any script blogger ?
[21:26] <ghostcube> the installer is java based
[21:26] <ghostcube> tried in other browsers ?
[21:27] <keldrona> yes... in 3 different computer... always with linux and always with firefox
[21:56] <jose__> hii
[22:10] <rottex> quick question: does someone know, how I can get the time/date when a specific package was installed on the system (on the command-line...) ?
[22:11] <Guest29086> hi
[22:11] <sysop2> hi
[22:11] <lukasz_> HI
[22:12] <jimmy51_> "Lock Screen" isn't doing anything.  9.10 fresh install + nvidia driver 185.  is this a known bug?
[22:12] <lukasz_> Zastanawiam sie czy sa tu Polacy
[22:12] <jimmy51_> can i run a command to force the screen to lock?
[22:12] <sysop2> is there anything like screenrecycler for kde? is there a way I can eumlate that. bascially I want a another x display that is linked to vnc, so when I vnc into my computer I just get that display
[22:13] <sysop2> so I can use another computer as an extra display for laptop.
[22:13] <jimmy51_> ah... CTRL ALT L
[22:13] <lukasz_> magez:  Pl :D?
[22:13] <jimmy51_> adios
[22:13] <Urrghs> hi; someone here who can help a noob to get his kubuntu work again?    "mount of filesystem failed"
[22:13] <sysop2> I would love to vnc from my windows or mac to a special port on my linux pc and full screen the session and then be able to drag windows over to it.
[22:13] <Urrghs> kubuntu does not start
[22:14] <lukasz_> marek_:  siema:D
[22:14] <Urrghs> only the maintenance shell
[22:15] <lukasz_> !pl
[22:15] <Urrghs> aha...to polski kanal; nawet nie zauwarzylem
[22:16] <rottex> Urrgs: 1) start with liveCD/usbstick and try chroot to your system --> google  2) double check /boot/menu.lst and /etc/fstab
[22:17] <rottex> Urrgs: or check your hd cable :-)
[22:17] <Urrghs> hehe
[22:18] <Urrghs> hmm..tonight I will not be able to get a cd....so I can check the file  /boot/menu.lst....but check for what?
[22:19] <Urrghs> the cable is not the problem  :)  I have got only one hard disk here on the notebook...the windows works :)
[22:20] <rottex> check for the "root" parameter
[22:20] <Urrghs> otherwise I could not be here....
[22:20] <rottex> in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:20] <rottex> example: "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=302320c6-8449-41e9-8b13-61984b87b87b ro vga=0x368"
[22:20] <marek_> lukasz_ albo sie nie ma :)
[22:20] <Urrghs> yes.....root parameter...ok
[22:21] <Urrghs> hmm.....should I change there anything?   I suppose so...
[22:21] <lukasz_> marek_:  szukam tu pomocy na na tym polskim kanale to tylko jakis koles sie wysmiewa :/
[22:21] <rottex> well , i dont know :-)
[22:22] <marek_> lukasz_ remember this is english channel :)
[22:22] <rottex> without a "working system" from livecd etc. its hard to do something
[22:22] <Urrghs> hmmm...then the check will not be very successful
[22:22] <Urrghs> aha...ok
[22:27] <rottex> Urrghs: isnt it possible to start a kubuntu in windows ?! I But I do not know this "wubi" , cause I run Linux since 7 years and no $soft...
[22:28] <Urrghs> hmm
[22:29] <Hans_Henrik> you can run wubi and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[22:54] <Walzmyn> "service network-manager" restart is not working. Anybody else having this issue?
[22:59] <aaron_> heya i wanted to install the latest versions of amarok and ktorrent from source, should i remove the current versions via kpackagemanager?
[23:00] <nomopofomo> test, can anyone see this?
[23:07] <Benkinooby> freaky[t]: sorry
[23:08] <Benkinooby> whois freaky[t]
[23:10] <freaky[t]> Benkinooby,  ;P
[23:15] <gizmobay> I'm trying to get the grub reboot options to work again. I can't remember what to change in the menu.lst for default and for savedefault. Anyone remeber?
[23:24] <djustice> anyone know if there is a kword package of the kde4 version (trunkmebbe?) somewhere? for karmic?
[23:26] <Tm_T> !koffice
[23:26] <Tm_T> !info kword
[23:27] <Tm_T> weird
[23:27] <Tm_T> djustice: you might like to search for ppa
[23:27] <Tm_T> shame I cannot help you on that, I really should be in sleep by now
[23:28] <djustice> Tm_T: ah, thanks anyway :) ill check the ppaz. im scared of ppas tho. :[
[23:31] <Blues-Man> hi all
[23:32] <Blues-Man> i had a crash after installed some python-based plasmoid, is this a known bug?
[23:32] <Blues-Man> the crash was made by plasma-desktop
[23:33] <Roey> Riddell:  hey Jonathan, just wanted to update you on this udev thing.  It's known, and the -proposed repo has the fixed package.  How long would it take to trickle down to the main repository, in your estimation?
[23:41] <ewoerner> does the usb-creator also work with non-ubuntu iso images?
[23:41] <ewoerner> (at least for the boot part)
[23:46] <lukasz_> Cu
[23:52] <sysop2> hi
[23:52] <sysop2> is there anything like screenrecycler for kde? is there a way I can eumlate that. bascially I want a another x display that is linked to vnc, so when I vnc into my computer I just get that display
[23:53] <sysop2> emulate I mean