| mathepic | Is the recommended setup for mailing lists to have an open PROJECT-users team for the main mailing list? | 00:02 |
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| mathepic | I wanted to have it hosted in the "dev" team, but that didn't work because its moderated, and thus all the emails have to be moderated. | 00:02 |
| poolie | mathepic: i don't know if that's officially recommended but it makes sense to me | 00:02 |
| poolie | yes it should be separate from the actual dev team | 00:02 |
| flacoste | mwhudson: around? | 01:05 |
| jml | flacoste, he just went for lunch | 01:06 |
| ajuonline | how do I copy code/bugs etc from a different project/series to a branch of other project? | 01:08 |
| jml | ajuonline, for bugs, you can just change the project that they affect | 01:10 |
| jml | ajuonline, for code, you need to either re-push the branches or use the API, IIRC. | 01:10 |
| ajuonline | jml: repushing saves all commit history from the team? | 01:12 |
| ajuonline | s/saves/retains | 01:12 |
| jml | ajuonline, yep. | 01:12 |
| dtchen_ | hi, folks, I have a brief (and hopefully elementary question): I'm trying to fix https://edge.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/trunk so that git imports work correctly. Either I'm suffering a senior moment, because I can't easily find how to change the git:// uri, or I'm up a creek. | 01:14 |
| ajuonline | jml: is there a document on this I can look? | 01:14 |
| jml | ajuonline, https://help.launchpad.net/ is your best bet. | 01:14 |
| jml | dtchen_, you can't (for various boring reasons). you can ask us to, IIRC. | 01:15 |
| jml | dtchen_, if you are using edge, you should be able to delete the import and create a new one | 01:15 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: so if you click on the branch (with the signpost icon), then there is a link on the right hand side | 01:15 |
| jml | (maybe. I just added the feature and haven't actually verified it on edge yet) | 01:16 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: I'd like to know if you have access to edit the code import | 01:16 |
| lifeless | (you probably don't) | 01:16 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: what should the git url be? | 01:16 |
| jml | dtchen_, hmm. that's an svn import. | 01:16 |
| wgrant | Altering the URL, especially to anothre type, sounds like everything will die. | 01:16 |
| lifeless | snap, I just noted | 01:16 |
| lifeless | definitely needs a fresh import | 01:16 |
| dtchen_ | url = git://git.0pointer.de/pulseaudio.git | 01:17 |
| dtchen_ | lifeless: I don't appear to have access; there's nothing on the trailing vertical edge that leads me to believe that I have such access | 01:17 |
| lifeless | so we can rename the trunk to trunk-svn | 01:17 |
| lifeless | and let you make a new one for the git import | 01:17 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: [re access] - on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pulseaudio/trunk ? | 01:18 |
| dtchen_ | lifeless: correct | 01:18 |
| lifeless | kk | 01:18 |
| jml | dtchen_, is there an option there to let you delete the branch? | 01:18 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: I've renamed it to trunk-svn | 01:18 |
| dtchen_ | jml: only "delete series" | 01:19 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: please request a new import | 01:19 |
| wgrant | jml: Why would there be? He doesn't own it. | 01:19 |
| lifeless | then we can link it into the series | 01:19 |
| lifeless | wgrant: vcs-imports doesn't want responsibility | 01:19 |
| jml | wgrant, I recently patched Launchpad so that you can delete vcs-imports owned branches if you registered the import. | 01:19 |
| mwhudson | flacoste: here now, but still munching | 01:19 |
| flacoste | mwhudson: ok, i'm uploading the minimal zconfig file you need to the bug you reported | 01:20 |
| wgrant | jml: Won't new ones just be owned by the registrant? | 01:20 |
| dtchen_ | jml: interesting. I suppose it's worth nothing that I did *not* register the import; the previous owner (Bogdan) did. | 01:20 |
| flacoste | mwhudson: i'll file a merge-proposal, ideally we shouldn't require such a file | 01:20 |
| flacoste | mwhudson: but that should unblock you | 01:20 |
| mwhudson | flacoste: not my bug, but thanks :) | 01:20 |
| wgrant | Or the commit message is misleading. | 01:21 |
| dtchen_ | The previous owner no longer wished to maintain the LP bits, so he turned it over to ~ubuntu-audio-dev upon my request. | 01:21 |
| jml | dtchen_, ahh ok. that makes me happy then :) | 01:21 |
| jml | wgrant, yes. | 01:21 |
| jml | wgrant, I did both. | 01:21 |
| wgrant | jml: Ahh, handy. | 01:21 |
| jml | wgrant, thanks. | 01:21 |
| jml | flacoste, is this the launchpad.conf bug? it's blocking bazaar.edge.launchpad.net | 01:21 |
| flacoste | jml: yes | 01:22 |
| spm | jml: to be fair - blocking is harsh - I'm still trying to get the apache configs setup as well. for such simple files ther's a mass of Aaaaaa moments in there. :-) | 01:24 |
| jml | spm, oh, I see. | 01:24 |
| * jml apologises for the unnecessary emphasis | 01:24 | |
| jml | btw | 01:24 |
| jml | is the topic still relevant? | 01:24 |
| wgrant | The first isn't. | 01:25 |
| wgrant | Not sure about the second. | 01:25 |
| lifeless | spm: is it metaprogrammable? | 01:25 |
| lifeless | that is, can we write something to generate staging, edge, production apache stuff correctly, from one source & a listof machines? | 01:25 |
| spm | lifeless: the apache config? doubt it. it's subtle and interesting gotchas between multiple IPs, SSL and varying domains. | 01:25 |
| spm | eg. I'm splitting bazaar.launchpad.net to get baz.edge; but this ALSO impacts on codebrowse.launchpad.net | 01:26 |
| lifeless | spm: Well, you're the one with the problem :). I will note that I got openswan configs fully automated some while back :) | 01:26 |
| spm | heh | 01:26 |
| spm | lifeless: tho this is an issue for us across the board - we've been looking at eg cfengine, puppet etc. time.... | 01:27 |
| spm | need more time. | 01:27 |
| dtchen_ | lifeless: forgive me for being dense, but which link should I be using? | 01:27 |
| lifeless | up front vs chipping away | 01:27 |
| dtchen_ | lifeless: e.g., https://edge.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+addseries ? | 01:27 |
| mwhudson | i would still like to make the security of private branches less dependent on rewritecond | 01:27 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: I don't know :) There is a help page about it. | 01:27 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: We want to use the existing trunk series, don't we? | 01:28 |
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| spm | wgrant: I believe the first is still relevant; just that we've done some evilness to reduce the impact. "delete from table where...." I'm personally happy to leave that not in the topic till resolved. fwiw. | 01:29 |
| wgrant | spm: The person who put it there has closed the bug. | 01:29 |
| spm | hah. leave that *note*. | 01:29 |
| spm | srsly? | 01:29 |
| dtchen_ | lifeless: I don't know if it much matters. (I think I found the url -- https://code.edge.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new ?) | 01:29 |
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| dtchen_ | ok, submitted. Many thanks! | 01:31 |
| mwhudson | branch updates are thoroughly caught up afaict | 01:33 |
| lifeless | dtchen_: on this url - https://edge.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/trunk | 01:45 |
| lifeless | there should be an edit link somewhere, to let you change the branch | 01:46 |
| lifeless | you should select the new pulseaudio trunk import | 01:46 |
| dtchen_ | lifeless: yep, done. Thanks! | 01:51 |
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| allenap | henninge: Hi there, can I prod you to take a look at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/90080 please? | 11:46 |
| henninge | allenap: sure | 11:46 |
| allenap | henninge: Thanks! | 11:46 |
| henninge | strange, I did that this morning but must have forgotten to reply. | 11:47 |
| henninge | allenap: thanks for reminding me ... ;-) | 11:48 |
| allenap | henninge: Oh brilliant :) | 11:49 |
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| rowinggolfer_ | greetings. | 12:10 |
| rowinggolfer_ | I am astonished at the speed with with packages in my ppa are being built at the moment. From upload of source packages to working deb is taking <15 mins at the moment. | 12:11 |
| philip_stoev | hello, do you know how I can get notification for new blueprints and the status changes for all existing blueprints for a particular project? I am a member of two projects, and for one I do get all notifications, and for the other I get none, and I can not seem to find where the magic toggle button is. | 12:12 |
| allenap | rowinggolfer_: That's great to hear :) What was your experience like before? | 12:49 |
| allenap | philip_stoev: I'll see if I can figure that one out... | 12:50 |
| rowinggolfer_ | allenap, when karmic was being released, >24 hours. | 12:50 |
| rowinggolfer_ | it was getting to the point where I was going to ask my beta testers to run the latest bzr rather than wait for the ppa. | 12:51 |
| allenap | rowinggolfer_: I heard something about lots of machines from the build farm being re-purposed to hosting the release ISOs or something similar. Sounds like they're back in the farm :) | 12:52 |
| philip_stoev | allenap: thank you! | 12:53 |
| allenap | philip_stoev: Looks like there's a very old bug asking for notification of new blueprints: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/3765 | 12:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 3765 in blueprint "We need new spec notification" [Low,Triaged] | 12:55 |
| allenap | philip_stoev: And I would imagine that you can only get updates for blueprints you're subscribed to. | 12:55 |
| rowinggolfer_ | allenap, makes sense. | 12:56 |
| maxb | allenap: LP seems to have failed to process my push to this branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~svn/ubuntu/hardy/subversion/ppa - is someone likely to want to debug it, or should I just delete and re-push? | 12:58 |
| maxb | meh, and now I *say* that, it goes and does it | 12:59 |
| allenap | maxb: Heh, cool. | 12:59 |
| philip_stoev | allenap: thanks for the information. The weird part is that I am getting blueprint status notification changes on blueprints I never visited in my life , so I did not subscribe to them. | 12:59 |
| maxb | it looks like re-pushing, even though bzr said "No revisions to push" was enough to tickle LP to rescan | 12:59 |
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| allenap | philip_stoev: How odd. Do you have a link or two? I'll see if I can work it out. | 13:38 |
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| philip_stoev | allenap: this is the project I get blueprint emails from https://launchpad.net/mysql-sandbox | 13:40 |
| philip_stoev | allenap: and this is the project I don't - https://launchpad.net/randgen | 13:40 |
| philip_stoev | allenap: maybe it is that if the entire team is put into the Asignee field of the blueprint as it is created, then people would start getting notifications? | 13:40 |
| allenap | philip_stoev: Do you have a link to a specific blueprint? I think it'll help if I start from something specific. | 13:41 |
| allenap | philip_stoev: I would think so, yes. | 13:41 |
| philip_stoev | allenap: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/randgen/+spec/simplifier-use-config-files | 13:44 |
| allenap | philip_stoev: Ah, I meant a specific blueprint that you do get emails for. | 13:46 |
| philip_stoev | allenap: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mysql-sandbox/+spec/add-status-script-to-sandboxes | 13:47 |
| allenap | philip_stoev: Yes, like you say, it looks like it's just because of the assignee. I can't find any other reason. Sorry to not have better news. | 13:50 |
| philip_stoev | allenap: no problem, that would be good enough. | 13:51 |
| allenap | sinzui: Thanks, you rock. | 14:08 |
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| soren | I'm confused.. Say I'm looking at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~txaws-dev/txaws/trunk and want to see what r43 (lifeless' PEP-8 changes) is all about.. I click on it, and what loggerhead shows me is something completely different. How does that make sense? | 15:47 |
| exarkun | Many of those links do seem bogus. | 15:50 |
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| allenap | abentley: soren noticed that links to revisions in loggerhead are on crack above. Do you have a few minutes to take a look? | 15:59 |
| abentley | soren, allenap: The branch data is buggy-- if you run bzr log lp:~txaws-dev/txaws/trunk, you' | 16:03 |
| abentley | soren, allenap: ll see it has a revision -1. | 16:03 |
| abentley | soren, allenap: If you run reconcile on the branch, I expect you'll get consistent behaviour between loggerhead and launchpad. | 16:04 |
| allenap | abentley: If the reconciled branch is pushed, do you think it'll break other people's branches, or stacking? | 16:05 |
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| allenap | abentley: The branch owner is an open team, so I could fix this myself, but I don't want to break the branch for others. | 16:06 |
| abentley | allenap: It won't break stacking. It's possible that people will need to pull --overwrite before they can push again. | 16:06 |
| allenap | abentley: Okay, I'll get in touch with the team before I do anything then. Thanks. | 16:07 |
| sinzui | henninge: My IRC went belly up. | 16:13 |
| sinzui | I lost your last message or two | 16:13 |
| exarkun | How do branches end up with buggy data? | 16:16 |
| allenap | exarkun: I'm emailing txaws-dev about it, would you like me to CC you? | 16:29 |
| exarkun | Sure, thanks. exarkun@twistedmatrix.com | 16:32 |
| allenap | exarkun: Cool, done. | 16:32 |
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| doctormo | intellectronica, flacoste: hello, are either of you at UDS atm? | 17:41 |
| intellectronica | doctormo: i am | 17:41 |
| doctormo | intellectronica: Are you in a session currently? | 17:41 |
| intellectronica | doctormo: currently hacking downstairs in the bar | 17:41 |
| doctormo | intellectronica: Be down to pick brains | 17:42 |
| intellectronica | look forward | 17:42 |
| doctormo | intellectronica: what do you look like | 17:43 |
| intellectronica | doctormo: i look awful. don't get your hopes up | 17:43 |
| doctormo | tshirt? | 17:44 |
| intellectronica | doctormo: more helpfully, i am wearing a grey stripy long sleeve and hacking on a netbook | 17:44 |
| intellectronica | and sitting next deryck who's hacking on a giant mac | 17:44 |
| fab1_ | Hello, is a mailing list admin here? | 17:44 |
| fab1_ | I would like to change some options for my list, especially the reply-to field | 17:45 |
| fab1_ | It's seems it's not possible on the LP admin pages, but can an admin change that? | 17:46 |
| _koshi_ | Hi. I deleted an unused series of my project springlobby earlier today, unaware that this would mean losing the translation setup/as of then unsynchronized new translations. Is there any way to get those back? | 19:59 |
| thumper | _koshi_: I don't think so, but the person to check with would be sinzui, danilo or jtv | 20:04 |
| sinzui | _koshi_ no there is not | 20:04 |
| sinzui | There is some irony here though | 20:05 |
| sinzui | _koshi_: your series was really assigned to junk project because we cannot really delete any series that has translation information. I have no idea how we could locate your lost series and move it back your your project | 20:06 |
| sinzui | hence we say that deletion is permanent. The feature was added because users were creating series by accident. once a series has had actual work done on it, it is much better to mark it obsolete. You can then reactivate it later | 20:08 |
| _koshi_ | ah well, thanks for the swift answer anyways | 20:08 |
| _koshi_ | hmm, alright. i learned that much then | 20:08 |
| _koshi_ | should it have been obvious to me that i was deleting the translations alongside? aka how big of a fool have i been? | 20:09 |
| sinzui | No, it is not obvious because the delete screen should have explained that would be deleted. It will say that about milestones. I will report a bug about this | 20:10 |
| _koshi_ | ok, my explaining of this will not need the 'i was a really big idiot' prefix then, only the 'i was a tad careless' one ;-) | 20:14 |
| _koshi_ | thx | 20:14 |
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| pkern | Hi, could some admin please process libinfinity's translation import queue? I.e. https://translations.launchpad.net/libinfinity/trunk/+imports | 20:53 |
| h00k | Greetings, I have a question regarding Mailing Lists for a LoCo team. | 21:17 |
| beuno | h00k, shoot | 21:18 |
| h00k | Well, the Wisconsin LoCo (http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-wisconsin) does have a mailing list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi) but it is not listed under Mailing List | 21:18 |
| beuno | h00k, listed in Launchpad? | 21:19 |
| h00k | beuno: I am now the Lead Contact for the Wisconsin LoCo, I'm trying to get things organized properly:) | 21:19 |
| h00k | beuno: correct, it isn't listed in Launchpad | 21:19 |
| beuno | Launchpad deson't model mailing lists outside of launchpad | 21:19 |
| beuno | (yet) | 21:19 |
| beuno | so you just need to addd it to the descrption or something | 21:19 |
| h00k | so the lists.ubuntu.com/etc mailing list is handled by Ubuntu, not Launchpad, correct? | 21:20 |
| beuno | h00k, correct | 21:20 |
| h00k | beuno: is this something to be implemented in the future? | 21:20 |
| h00k | I did notice (yet) | 21:20 |
| beuno | h00k, yes | 21:21 |
| beuno | it's in our plans | 21:21 |
| h00k | alright, noted. I'll keep my eye out, then. | 21:21 |
| h00k | Thanks for the help | 21:21 |
| beuno | welcome | 21:21 |
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| sproaty | how can I get debuild -S to produce a .deb for me without waiting on uploading/buildng on LP? | 23:45 |
| wgrant | sproaty: Omit the -S. | 23:46 |
| wgrant | sproaty: -S means 'source only' | 23:46 |
| sproaty | whoops | 23:46 |
| sproaty | thank you, you've helped me many times here :) | 23:46 |
| wgrant | lamont: Any issues with my lp-buildd branch? | 23:48 |
| lamont | wgrant: only with pushing it back to pqm.... | 23:48 |
| lamont | working with bigjools on dealing with that | 23:48 |
| wgrant | lamont: Great, thanks. | 23:48 |
| wgrant | Now I just need to finish the Soyuz bits. | 23:48 |
| wgrant | Stupid exams. | 23:48 |
| lamont | though I suppose I should actually review it, too. | 23:48 |
| wgrant | Probably. | 23:49 |
| wgrant | The pkg-create-dbgsym bits were merged last week. | 23:49 |
| lamont | wgrant: +1 | 23:50 |
| wgrant | lamont: Thanks. | 23:52 |
| wgrant | lamont: Any progress on the 3.0 format front? | 23:58 |
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