[00:02] Is the recommended setup for mailing lists to have an open PROJECT-users team for the main mailing list? [00:02] I wanted to have it hosted in the "dev" team, but that didn't work because its moderated, and thus all the emails have to be moderated. [00:02] mathepic: i don't know if that's officially recommended but it makes sense to me [00:02] yes it should be separate from the actual dev team [01:05] mwhudson: around? [01:06] flacoste, he just went for lunch [01:08] how do I copy code/bugs etc from a different project/series to a branch of other project? [01:10] ajuonline, for bugs, you can just change the project that they affect [01:10] ajuonline, for code, you need to either re-push the branches or use the API, IIRC. [01:12] jml: repushing saves all commit history from the team? [01:12] s/saves/retains [01:12] ajuonline, yep. [01:14] hi, folks, I have a brief (and hopefully elementary question): I'm trying to fix https://edge.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/trunk so that git imports work correctly. Either I'm suffering a senior moment, because I can't easily find how to change the git:// uri, or I'm up a creek. [01:14] jml: is there a document on this I can look? [01:14] ajuonline, https://help.launchpad.net/ is your best bet. [01:15] dtchen_, you can't (for various boring reasons). you can ask us to, IIRC. [01:15] dtchen_, if you are using edge, you should be able to delete the import and create a new one [01:15] dtchen_: so if you click on the branch (with the signpost icon), then there is a link on the right hand side [01:16] (maybe. I just added the feature and haven't actually verified it on edge yet) [01:16] dtchen_: I'd like to know if you have access to edit the code import [01:16] (you probably don't) [01:16] dtchen_: what should the git url be? [01:16] dtchen_, hmm. that's an svn import. [01:16] Altering the URL, especially to anothre type, sounds like everything will die. [01:16] snap, I just noted [01:16] definitely needs a fresh import [01:17] url = git://git.0pointer.de/pulseaudio.git [01:17] lifeless: I don't appear to have access; there's nothing on the trailing vertical edge that leads me to believe that I have such access [01:17] so we can rename the trunk to trunk-svn [01:17] and let you make a new one for the git import [01:18] dtchen_: [re access] - on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pulseaudio/trunk ? [01:18] lifeless: correct [01:18] kk [01:18] dtchen_, is there an option there to let you delete the branch? [01:18] dtchen_: I've renamed it to trunk-svn [01:19] jml: only "delete series" [01:19] dtchen_: please request a new import [01:19] jml: Why would there be? He doesn't own it. [01:19] then we can link it into the series [01:19] wgrant: vcs-imports doesn't want responsibility [01:19] wgrant, I recently patched Launchpad so that you can delete vcs-imports owned branches if you registered the import. [01:19] flacoste: here now, but still munching [01:20] mwhudson: ok, i'm uploading the minimal zconfig file you need to the bug you reported [01:20] jml: Won't new ones just be owned by the registrant? [01:20] jml: interesting. I suppose it's worth nothing that I did *not* register the import; the previous owner (Bogdan) did. [01:20] mwhudson: i'll file a merge-proposal, ideally we shouldn't require such a file [01:20] mwhudson: but that should unblock you [01:20] flacoste: not my bug, but thanks :) [01:21] Or the commit message is misleading. [01:21] The previous owner no longer wished to maintain the LP bits, so he turned it over to ~ubuntu-audio-dev upon my request. [01:21] dtchen_, ahh ok. that makes me happy then :) [01:21] wgrant, yes. [01:21] wgrant, I did both. [01:21] jml: Ahh, handy. [01:21] wgrant, thanks. [01:21] flacoste, is this the launchpad.conf bug? it's blocking bazaar.edge.launchpad.net [01:22] jml: yes [01:24] jml: to be fair - blocking is harsh - I'm still trying to get the apache configs setup as well. for such simple files ther's a mass of Aaaaaa moments in there. :-) [01:24] spm, oh, I see. [01:24] * jml apologises for the unnecessary emphasis [01:24] btw [01:24] is the topic still relevant? [01:25] The first isn't. [01:25] Not sure about the second. [01:25] spm: is it metaprogrammable? [01:25] that is, can we write something to generate staging, edge, production apache stuff correctly, from one source & a listof machines? [01:25] lifeless: the apache config? doubt it. it's subtle and interesting gotchas between multiple IPs, SSL and varying domains. [01:26] eg. I'm splitting bazaar.launchpad.net to get baz.edge; but this ALSO impacts on codebrowse.launchpad.net [01:26] spm: Well, you're the one with the problem :). I will note that I got openswan configs fully automated some while back :) [01:26] heh [01:27] lifeless: tho this is an issue for us across the board - we've been looking at eg cfengine, puppet etc. time.... [01:27] need more time. [01:27] lifeless: forgive me for being dense, but which link should I be using? [01:27] up front vs chipping away [01:27] lifeless: e.g., https://edge.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+addseries ? [01:27] i would still like to make the security of private branches less dependent on rewritecond [01:27] dtchen_: I don't know :) There is a help page about it. [01:28] dtchen_: We want to use the existing trunk series, don't we? === ursula is now known as Ursinha [01:29] wgrant: I believe the first is still relevant; just that we've done some evilness to reduce the impact. "delete from table where...." I'm personally happy to leave that not in the topic till resolved. fwiw. [01:29] spm: The person who put it there has closed the bug. [01:29] hah. leave that *note*. [01:29] srsly? [01:29] lifeless: I don't know if it much matters. (I think I found the url -- https://code.edge.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new ?) === flacoste is now known as flacoste_afk [01:31] ok, submitted. Many thanks! [01:33] branch updates are thoroughly caught up afaict [01:45] dtchen_: on this url - https://edge.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/trunk [01:46] there should be an edit link somewhere, to let you change the branch [01:46] you should select the new pulseaudio trunk import [01:51] lifeless: yep, done. Thanks! === jml changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev === stub1 is now known as stub === war10ck is now known as pan1nx === maxb is now known as Guest71681 === fisuk_ is now known as fisuk === allenap changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: allenap | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev === jtv is now known as jtv-afk === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [11:46] henninge: Hi there, can I prod you to take a look at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/90080 please? [11:46] allenap: sure [11:46] henninge: Thanks! [11:47] strange, I did that this morning but must have forgotten to reply. [11:48] allenap: thanks for reminding me ... ;-) [11:49] henninge: Oh brilliant :) === jtv-afk is now known as jtv [12:10] greetings. [12:11] I am astonished at the speed with with packages in my ppa are being built at the moment. From upload of source packages to working deb is taking <15 mins at the moment. [12:12] hello, do you know how I can get notification for new blueprints and the status changes for all existing blueprints for a particular project? I am a member of two projects, and for one I do get all notifications, and for the other I get none, and I can not seem to find where the magic toggle button is. [12:49] rowinggolfer_: That's great to hear :) What was your experience like before? [12:50] philip_stoev: I'll see if I can figure that one out... [12:50] allenap, when karmic was being released, >24 hours. [12:51] it was getting to the point where I was going to ask my beta testers to run the latest bzr rather than wait for the ppa. [12:52] rowinggolfer_: I heard something about lots of machines from the build farm being re-purposed to hosting the release ISOs or something similar. Sounds like they're back in the farm :) [12:53] allenap: thank you! [12:55] philip_stoev: Looks like there's a very old bug asking for notification of new blueprints: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/3765 [12:55] Launchpad bug 3765 in blueprint "We need new spec notification" [Low,Triaged] [12:55] philip_stoev: And I would imagine that you can only get updates for blueprints you're subscribed to. [12:56] allenap, makes sense. [12:58] allenap: LP seems to have failed to process my push to this branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~svn/ubuntu/hardy/subversion/ppa - is someone likely to want to debug it, or should I just delete and re-push? [12:59] meh, and now I *say* that, it goes and does it [12:59] maxb: Heh, cool. [12:59] allenap: thanks for the information. The weird part is that I am getting blueprint status notification changes on blueprints I never visited in my life , so I did not subscribe to them. [12:59] it looks like re-pushing, even though bzr said "No revisions to push" was enough to tickle LP to rescan === warp10__ is now known as warp10 [13:38] philip_stoev: How odd. Do you have a link or two? I'll see if I can work it out. === doctormo__ is now known as doctormo [13:40] allenap: this is the project I get blueprint emails from https://launchpad.net/mysql-sandbox [13:40] allenap: and this is the project I don't - https://launchpad.net/randgen [13:40] allenap: maybe it is that if the entire team is put into the Asignee field of the blueprint as it is created, then people would start getting notifications? [13:41] philip_stoev: Do you have a link to a specific blueprint? I think it'll help if I start from something specific. [13:41] philip_stoev: I would think so, yes. [13:44] allenap: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/randgen/+spec/simplifier-use-config-files [13:46] philip_stoev: Ah, I meant a specific blueprint that you do get emails for. [13:47] allenap: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mysql-sandbox/+spec/add-status-script-to-sandboxes [13:50] philip_stoev: Yes, like you say, it looks like it's just because of the assignee. I can't find any other reason. Sorry to not have better news. [13:51] allenap: no problem, that would be good enough. [14:08] sinzui: Thanks, you rock. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === flacoste_afk is now known as flacoste === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [15:47] I'm confused.. Say I'm looking at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~txaws-dev/txaws/trunk and want to see what r43 (lifeless' PEP-8 changes) is all about.. I click on it, and what loggerhead shows me is something completely different. How does that make sense? [15:50] Many of those links do seem bogus. === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [15:59] abentley: soren noticed that links to revisions in loggerhead are on crack above. Do you have a few minutes to take a look? [16:03] soren, allenap: The branch data is buggy-- if you run bzr log lp:~txaws-dev/txaws/trunk, you' [16:03] soren, allenap: ll see it has a revision -1. [16:04] soren, allenap: If you run reconcile on the branch, I expect you'll get consistent behaviour between loggerhead and launchpad. [16:05] abentley: If the reconciled branch is pushed, do you think it'll break other people's branches, or stacking? === danilo_ is now known as danilos [16:06] abentley: The branch owner is an open team, so I could fix this myself, but I don't want to break the branch for others. [16:06] allenap: It won't break stacking. It's possible that people will need to pull --overwrite before they can push again. [16:07] abentley: Okay, I'll get in touch with the team before I do anything then. Thanks. [16:13] henninge: My IRC went belly up. [16:13] I lost your last message or two [16:16] How do branches end up with buggy data? [16:29] exarkun: I'm emailing txaws-dev about it, would you like me to CC you? [16:32] Sure, thanks. exarkun@twistedmatrix.com [16:32] exarkun: Cool, done. === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === jon is now known as Guest48717 === Ng_ is now known as Ng === mordred_ is now known as mtaylor === henninge_ is now known as henninge === doctormo is now known as DoctorEmOw === vednis is now known as mars === DoctorEmOw is now known as doctormo [17:41] intellectronica, flacoste: hello, are either of you at UDS atm? [17:41] doctormo: i am [17:41] intellectronica: Are you in a session currently? [17:41] doctormo: currently hacking downstairs in the bar [17:42] intellectronica: Be down to pick brains [17:42] look forward [17:43] intellectronica: what do you look like [17:43] doctormo: i look awful. don't get your hopes up [17:44] tshirt? [17:44] doctormo: more helpfully, i am wearing a grey stripy long sleeve and hacking on a netbook [17:44] and sitting next deryck who's hacking on a giant mac [17:44] Hello, is a mailing list admin here? [17:45] I would like to change some options for my list, especially the reply-to field [17:46] It's seems it's not possible on the LP admin pages, but can an admin change that? [19:59] <_koshi_> Hi. I deleted an unused series of my project springlobby earlier today, unaware that this would mean losing the translation setup/as of then unsynchronized new translations. Is there any way to get those back? [20:04] _koshi_: I don't think so, but the person to check with would be sinzui, danilo or jtv [20:04] _koshi_ no there is not [20:05] There is some irony here though [20:06] _koshi_: your series was really assigned to junk project because we cannot really delete any series that has translation information. I have no idea how we could locate your lost series and move it back your your project [20:08] hence we say that deletion is permanent. The feature was added because users were creating series by accident. once a series has had actual work done on it, it is much better to mark it obsolete. You can then reactivate it later [20:08] <_koshi_> ah well, thanks for the swift answer anyways [20:08] <_koshi_> hmm, alright. i learned that much then [20:09] <_koshi_> should it have been obvious to me that i was deleting the translations alongside? aka how big of a fool have i been? [20:10] No, it is not obvious because the delete screen should have explained that would be deleted. It will say that about milestones. I will report a bug about this [20:14] <_koshi_> ok, my explaining of this will not need the 'i was a really big idiot' prefix then, only the 'i was a tad careless' one ;-) [20:14] <_koshi_> thx === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [20:53] Hi, could some admin please process libinfinity's translation import queue? I.e. https://translations.launchpad.net/libinfinity/trunk/+imports [21:17] Greetings, I have a question regarding Mailing Lists for a LoCo team. [21:18] h00k, shoot [21:18] Well, the Wisconsin LoCo (http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-wisconsin) does have a mailing list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi) but it is not listed under Mailing List [21:19] h00k, listed in Launchpad? [21:19] beuno: I am now the Lead Contact for the Wisconsin LoCo, I'm trying to get things organized properly:) [21:19] beuno: correct, it isn't listed in Launchpad [21:19] Launchpad deson't model mailing lists outside of launchpad [21:19] (yet) [21:19] so you just need to addd it to the descrption or something [21:20] so the lists.ubuntu.com/etc mailing list is handled by Ubuntu, not Launchpad, correct? [21:20] h00k, correct [21:20] beuno: is this something to be implemented in the future? [21:20] I did notice (yet) [21:21] h00k, yes [21:21] it's in our plans [21:21] alright, noted. I'll keep my eye out, then. [21:21] Thanks for the help [21:21] welcome === micahg1 is now known as micahg [23:45] how can I get debuild -S to produce a .deb for me without waiting on uploading/buildng on LP? [23:46] sproaty: Omit the -S. [23:46] sproaty: -S means 'source only' [23:46] whoops [23:46] thank you, you've helped me many times here :) [23:48] lamont: Any issues with my lp-buildd branch? [23:48] wgrant: only with pushing it back to pqm.... [23:48] working with bigjools on dealing with that [23:48] lamont: Great, thanks. [23:48] Now I just need to finish the Soyuz bits. [23:48] Stupid exams. [23:48] though I suppose I should actually review it, too. [23:49] Probably. [23:49] The pkg-create-dbgsym bits were merged last week. [23:50] wgrant: +1 [23:52] lamont: Thanks. [23:58] lamont: Any progress on the 3.0 format front?