[00:00] I really need help guys [00:00] :( [00:06] norelatime doesnt get passed to the kernel, it just cancels out any relatime in the mount command [00:07] so all new linux kernels are going to do this? [00:17] i just wrote my own mounter to pass strictatime, that works.. (mount.nfs wont pass it to the kernel) === BenC2 is now known as BenC === maxb is now known as Guest71681 === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [12:16] Hi! where can I find debug package for 2.6.31-14? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ has packages for -15 but no -14 :/ [12:24] ah, ok. -15 is in karmic-proposed.. I just grab it from there [15:50] apw: "There's now ext4 support for GRUB, and Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) is enabled by default on systems with NVIDIA, ATI and Intel video cards for a faster and smoother graphical boot. " [15:51] from the Fedora 12 release notes [15:51] did they get over their nouveau objection? [16:00] Keybuk: We've never had one? [16:00] Nouveau's been the default driver since it got stable for 2D [16:01] mjg59: I've heard claim from RH people that there's some number <100 of bytes of code in the driver that's maybe config data, maybe executable code, etc. [16:01] and that has been considered an issue [16:02] Keybuk: You'd need to ask your lawyers. Ours apparently had no problem. [16:02] (I infer - I haven't actually asked them) [16:02] The reason we didn't ship it before was purely that it didn't work terribly well... [16:08] mjg59: like I say, this is something I heard from RH people [16:08] and then from andy [16:10] Keybuk: It's something that was a vague concern, but as far as I know it was sorted [16:11] good to know [16:11] I came up with a name for F13 ;) [16:11] Constantine ... is a bad film starring Keanu Reeves ... :p [16:11] (Some time ago - we had nouveau by default in F11) [16:11] Ha [16:11] so clearly Fedroa 13 (Matrix) [16:11] I shudder to think of what would happen to the artwork [16:12] Thankfully, I think Matrix would fall at the trademark barrier [16:12] it'd be funny though ;) [16:24] I've looked at a bunch of the packaged kernel rebuild instructions and I don't see where any of them lets me give a modified name to the packages - is there a simple way of doing that? (Ditto is there a simple place to drop a patch file in or is it just a matter of patching the linux-2.6.31 dir after it's been unpacked by an apt-get source ? === Ng_ is now known as Ng [17:55] cking: around? [17:55] if you'd like to join in the btrfs discussion, we'd appreciate your presence [18:06] Keybuk, attending - having some audio issues - hold on a sec [20:09] is there a way to *slow down* the linux boot process? i tried already the boot parameters boot_debug=3 and boot_delay=2000, but did not see that anything has changed [20:13] I could swear there was an option for adding a delay after each printk [20:14] my problem is that my linux-computer turns itself off during the early boot process in 3 out of 4 tries. === fdd is now known as fddfoo [20:29] wamty: you can always look at the logs? [20:39] wamty, netconsole might help you [20:49] JanC: i checked dmesg, /var/log/dmseg and /var/log/messages: nothing found [20:57] wamty: How far does it get before it dies? [21:28] apw: my webcam bug is so strange the cam worked now for 3 days and today again nothing [21:28] :) [22:04] apw: FYI ports-meta uploaded for lucid. [23:29] apw: any particular reason the schedule() function is missing from 2.6.32-4 ? :) [23:29] Keybuk, its not ... [23:29] i had one out of tree dirver beahave that way [23:30] apw: wl_linux.c:702: error: implicit declaration of function 'schedule' [23:30] some header has stopped beinging included in some other header [23:30] yep thats the one [23:30] there is meant to be a fix for that [23:30] NCommander, ^^ didn't you have the fix for that [23:30] did it get uploaded? [23:31] apw: I can't find any header that declares that [23:31] its definatly not gone away, we had to include linux/sched.h or something similar [23:31] i can check more detailedly later [23:31] oh, right [23:31] sorry [23:31] being a tit [23:32] apw, Keybuk the patch sat on Launchpad and never got merged [23:32] well crap ... so ok ... we need to get that merged and uploaded to fix the mini 10v boot performance bit [23:33] apw, Keybuk, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/broadcom-sta/+bug/458757 [23:33] NCommander, you had a PPA build or somesuch which i must have on my machine as i can install [23:33] Malone bug 458757 in bcmwl "[patch] bcmwl fails to build with dkms on lucid 2.6.32-HEAD kernels" [High,Confirmed] [23:33] apw, I can throw it in a PPA if you need it ASAP [23:33] Keybuk, how urgent is it for you ... [23:33] apw: I can edit C code ;) [23:33] its actually damn hard to edit the dkms poop to make it work [23:34] * NCommander notes it took a few hours for me and apw to figure it out [23:34] really? [23:34] I just edited the unpacked bcmwl-kernel-source package and did dpkg-reconfigure on it [23:35] Keybuk, it wasn't obviously on why went bust in the first place, then it took awhile to figure how to get DKMS to patch the source on build. [23:35] there was something screwey in getting it to not undo the exposed source, i forget what [23:35] if you have it working all is good [23:35] Keybuk, could you nominate that bug for Lucid for me so the release team can see it? [23:35] huh? [23:35] lucid is months away [23:36] Just Fix It (tm) [23:36] Keybuk, are you sorted for the 'now' ? if so we can ignore it till next week [23:39] apw: yeah, but will need it fixed to do daily bootcharts and stuff [23:40] yep. just if you are good then we can get that one on the radar and get someone to upload it, i think it has the fix en-toto already just literally needs upload [23:40] i am sure i have it so patched on my machine and can confirm its good [23:41] NCommander, anythign stopping us just throwing it in the archive? its lucid after all? [23:41] apw, I don't have access to the bazaar branch to commit the change [23:42] NCommander, ok how do i find out who does, whats the master branch name? [23:44] apw, https://edge.launchpad.net/~albertomilone - this is the name on the branch [23:44] perfect thanks [23:53] o