[00:00] <elopss> I really need help guys
[00:00] <elopss> :(
[00:06] <elopss> norelatime doesnt get passed to the kernel, it just cancels out any relatime in the mount command
[00:07] <elopss> so all new linux kernels are going to do this?
[00:17] <elopss> i just wrote my own mounter to pass strictatime, that works.. (mount.nfs wont pass it to the kernel)
[12:16] <Wellark_> Hi! where can I find debug package for 2.6.31-14? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ has packages for -15 but no -14 :/
[12:24] <Wellark_> ah, ok. -15 is in karmic-proposed.. I just grab it from there
[15:50] <Keybuk> apw: "There's now ext4 support for GRUB, and Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) is enabled by default on systems with NVIDIA, ATI and Intel video cards for a faster and smoother graphical boot. "
[15:51] <Keybuk> from the Fedora 12 release notes
[15:51] <Keybuk> did they get over their nouveau objection?
[16:00] <mjg59> Keybuk: We've never had one?
[16:00] <mjg59> Nouveau's been the default driver since it got stable for 2D
[16:01] <Keybuk> mjg59: I've heard claim from RH people that there's some number <100 of bytes of code in the driver that's maybe config data, maybe executable code, etc. 
[16:01] <Keybuk> and that has been considered an issue
[16:02] <mjg59> Keybuk: You'd need to ask your lawyers. Ours apparently had no problem.
[16:02] <mjg59> (I infer - I haven't actually asked them)
[16:02] <mjg59> The reason we didn't ship it before was purely that it didn't work terribly well...
[16:08] <Keybuk> mjg59: like I say, this is something I heard from RH people
[16:08] <Keybuk> and then from andy
[16:10] <mjg59> Keybuk: It's something that was a vague concern, but as far as I know it was sorted
[16:11] <Keybuk> good to know
[16:11] <Keybuk> I came up with a name for F13 ;)
[16:11] <Keybuk> Constantine ... is a bad film starring Keanu Reeves ... :p
[16:11] <mjg59> (Some time ago - we had nouveau by default in F11)
[16:11] <mjg59> Ha
[16:11] <Keybuk> so clearly Fedroa 13 (Matrix)
[16:11] <mjg59> I shudder to think of what would happen to the artwork
[16:12] <mjg59> Thankfully, I think Matrix would fall at the trademark barrier
[16:12] <Keybuk> it'd be funny though ;)
[16:24] <penguin42> I've looked at a bunch of the packaged kernel rebuild instructions and I don't see where any of them lets me give a modified name to the packages - is there a simple way of doing that? (Ditto is there a simple place to drop a patch file in or is it just a matter of patching the linux-2.6.31 dir after it's been unpacked by an apt-get source ?
[17:55] <Keybuk> cking: around?
[17:55] <Keybuk> if you'd like to join in the btrfs discussion, we'd appreciate your presence
[18:06] <cking> Keybuk, attending - having some audio issues - hold on a sec
[20:09] <wamty> is there a way to *slow down* the linux boot process? i tried already the boot parameters boot_debug=3 and boot_delay=2000, but did not see that anything has changed
[20:13] <penguin42> I could swear there was an option for adding a delay after each printk
[20:14] <wamty> my problem is that my linux-computer turns itself off during the early boot process in 3 out of 4 tries.
[20:29] <JanC> wamty: you can always look at the logs?
[20:39] <tormod> wamty, netconsole might help you
[20:49] <wamty> JanC: i checked dmesg, /var/log/dmseg and /var/log/messages: nothing found
[20:57] <penguin42> wamty: How far does it get before it dies?
[21:28] <ghostcube> apw: my webcam bug is so strange the cam worked now for 3 days and today again nothing
[21:28] <ghostcube> :)
[22:04] <TheMuso> apw: FYI ports-meta uploaded for lucid.
[23:29] <Keybuk> apw: any particular reason the schedule() function is missing from 2.6.32-4 ? :)
[23:29] <apw> Keybuk, its not ...
[23:29] <apw> i had one out of tree dirver beahave that way
[23:30] <Keybuk> apw: wl_linux.c:702: error: implicit declaration of function 'schedule'
[23:30] <apw> some header has stopped beinging included in some other header
[23:30] <apw> yep thats the one
[23:30] <apw> there is meant to be a fix for that
[23:30] <apw> NCommander, ^^ didn't you have the fix for that
[23:30] <apw> did it get uploaded?
[23:31] <Keybuk> apw: I can't find any header that declares that
[23:31] <apw> its definatly not gone away, we had to include linux/sched.h or something similar
[23:31] <apw> i can check more detailedly later
[23:31] <Keybuk> oh, right
[23:31] <Keybuk> sorry
[23:31] <Keybuk> being a tit
[23:32] <NCommander> apw, Keybuk the patch sat on Launchpad and never got merged
[23:32] <apw> well crap ... so ok ... we need to get that merged and uploaded to fix the mini 10v boot performance bit
[23:33] <NCommander> apw, Keybuk, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/broadcom-sta/+bug/458757
[23:33] <apw> NCommander, you had a PPA build or somesuch which i must have on my machine as i can install 
[23:33] <ubot3> Malone bug 458757 in bcmwl "[patch] bcmwl fails to build with dkms on lucid 2.6.32-HEAD kernels" [High,Confirmed] 
[23:33] <NCommander> apw, I can throw it in a PPA if you need it ASAP
[23:33] <apw> Keybuk, how urgent is it for you ...
[23:33] <Keybuk> apw: I can edit C code ;)
[23:33] <apw> its actually damn hard to edit the dkms poop to make it work
[23:34]  * NCommander notes it took a few hours for me and apw to figure it out
[23:34] <Keybuk> really?
[23:34] <Keybuk> I just edited the unpacked bcmwl-kernel-source package and did dpkg-reconfigure on it
[23:35] <NCommander> Keybuk, it wasn't obviously on why went bust in the first place, then it took awhile to figure how to get DKMS to patch the source on build.
[23:35] <apw> there was something screwey in getting it to not undo the exposed source, i forget what
[23:35] <apw> if you have it working all is good
[23:35] <NCommander> Keybuk, could you nominate that bug for Lucid for me so the release team can see it?
[23:35] <Keybuk> huh?
[23:35] <Keybuk> lucid is months away
[23:36] <Keybuk> Just Fix It (tm)
[23:36] <apw> Keybuk, are you sorted for the 'now' ?  if so we can ignore it till next week
[23:39] <Keybuk> apw: yeah, but will need it fixed to do daily bootcharts and stuff
[23:40] <apw> yep.  just if you are good then we can get that one on the radar and get someone to upload it, i think it has the fix en-toto already just literally needs upload
[23:40] <apw> i am sure i have it so patched on my machine and can confirm its good
[23:41] <apw> NCommander, anythign stopping us just throwing it in the archive?  its lucid after all?
[23:41] <NCommander> apw, I don't have access to the bazaar branch to commit the change
[23:42] <apw> NCommander, ok how do i find out who does, whats the master branch name?
[23:44] <NCommander> apw, https://edge.launchpad.net/~albertomilone - this is the name on the branch
[23:44] <apw> perfect thanks
[23:53] <NCommander> o