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Laneyari-tczew: Can you please stop touching random old bugs? I emailed you about this before00:03
mirsalHello00:31
mirsalI need to reopen a launchpad bug that was marked "Fix released". Should I set it back to "In Progess" or should I file a new bug ?00:33
jdongdepends on how precisely sure you are that the bug you are seeing is the direct result of a regression to the fix in the old bug00:34
jdongin other words, it's better when in doubt to open a new bug00:34
jdongand have the bug triaging people decide whether or not it's a dupe00:34
mirsalActually the bug was only partially fixed00:34
mirsaljdong, It's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-evtouch/+bug/40103900:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401039 in xf86-input-evtouch "Add support for TouchPack family touchscreens (Clevo TN120 series tablets / ASUS eeeTOP and other devices)" [Undecided,Fix released]00:36
mirsaljdong, The I only fixed support for Clevo tablets00:37
ari-tczewLaney: don't panic00:37
mirsaljdong, ok I fixed the bug anyway,00:54
mirsalNow I need someone who can review & upload the changes00:55
fcuk112i am getting the following error when building a package under vbox : http://www.pastie.org/70195301:00
jdongROFL the build system runs a test suite that needs a SDL display?01:01
fcuk112can i still use pbuilder build for this package under vbox?01:07
jpdswgrant: ^--01:08
jpdsAh, build system != Soyuz.01:11
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EzraRcan we murge something from unstable if needed?04:49
RAOFEzraR: Yes, if there's a reason to do so.04:50
EzraRa package in testing relies on a package only in unstable for example04:50
RAOFHow did that happen?04:51
EzraRthat should probally be a debian bug though04:51
RAOFYes, it should :)04:51
EzraRi dont know...electric sheep has flam3 in the depends04:51
RAOFAaaah.  You're looking at making electricsheep actually work?  Cool.04:52
EzraRyeah04:52
EzraRi got it built but we dont have lam3 in ubuntu04:52
RAOFflam3 seems to be in testing.04:53
RAOFhttp://packages.debian.org/squeeze/flam304:53
RAOFThis might just need to get picked up in the autosync.04:53
RAOF(next autosync)04:54
EzraRstrange i just did a search for it and didnt find it...nice04:58
EzraRthats probally a good sign that its bed time :)04:59
EzraRwould it catch it in pbuilder if a depend wasnt met?05:01
EzraRjust reliezed i was trying to install it in karmic to test it05:02
EzraRflam3 wouldnt be in karmic05:02
RAOFIndeed it would not :)05:03
EzraRhehe deff time for bed05:06
AnAntHello, I am uploading texlive2009 packages (which have just hit Debian experimental) to my karmic PPA (ppa:aelmahmoudy/tl2009) if anyone wants to try them out07:05
fcuk112i tried pbuilder build on my main workstation but still getting http://www.pastie.org/701953.  strange.07:06
fcuk112i guess the question is, how do i enable the frame buffer in karmic?07:21
directhexfcuk112, inside your pbuilder? you don't07:27
fcuk112ah, it seems there is a bug in LP for it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/42851907:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 428519 in grub2 "Unable to enable framebuffer modes with grub 2" [Undecided,New]07:31
fcuk112directhex: i guess i need to set up the frame buffer on my main workstation or the VM for the package build to succeed.07:31
directhexfrankly, i'd patch the build system07:32
directhexrequiring compilation only on run-capable machines is *dumb*07:32
fcuk112that's an idea...07:33
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fcuk112https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsoup2.4/+bug/483826 do i do uscan -verbose in the old source folder to do the sync?  i seem to get back 2.28.1, not 2.28.1.3 as described in the bug.07:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 483826 in libsoup2.4 "Sync libsoup2.4 2.28.1-3 (main) from Debian sid (main)" [Undecided,New]07:48
mirsalfabrice_sp, Thanks :)07:52
yofelhi, now that bug 411262 is fixed in lucid and tested in karmic-proposed, what's left to do to get it into karmic-updates?08:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 411262 in rott "package rott 1.1-3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41126208:06
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DktrKranzyofel: two more days of testing, and an archive-administrator to perform the task08:09
yofelDktrKranz: ok, so the testing phase is always >=1 week? (It's my first SRU)08:10
AnAntHello, is there a reason that upstream usually (if not always) don't use -Wl,--as-needed in LDFLAGS ?08:19
siretart`AnAnt: mostly because they are not aware of the benefits of that option, I suppose08:23
siretart`there are some cornercases where it is actually harmful, though.08:23
fcuk112is there a difference between an update and a sync?08:26
AnAntI see08:28
AnAntsiretart`: actually I was trying to compile gwave with -Wl,--as-needed, and build did fail !08:29
siretart`AnAnt: probably upstream did not declare all libraries to ld. this would be a bug then08:30
DktrKranzyofel: at least a week, depending how quick users test the update08:31
siretart`finding those bugs is the main reason why that linker option is a good diea08:31
yofelDktrKranz: ok, thanks08:31
DktrKranzyou're welcome, and thanks for your interest :=08:32
DktrKranz:)08:32
\shmoins08:36
fcuk112editing Makefile.am; does that need to be added to quilt?08:48
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LucidFoxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autohell09:11
* LucidFox chuckles09:12
ajmitchsuch a nice redirect :)09:12
ajmitchaccurate too09:12
directhexLucidFox, totally stealing that for twittering purposes09:32
LucidFoxdirecthex> Ugh, Twitter09:49
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\shsiretart, FAI ubuntu karmic devel version fetch from svn://svn.debian.org/svn/fai/people/shermann/ubuntu-3.3.1/ <- just building the packages11:21
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siretart`\sh: wohooo! :-) - url noted.11:51
\shsiretart, I've build some packages and just testing on a local vmware image11:52
siretart`we ordered new machines that will hopefully be delivered this or next week. then I can join you with testing them11:53
masterhello13:07
masterumm13:07
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masterdoes anyone here know how to do OS development13:07
siretart`no13:08
slytherinmaster: What do you mean by OS development?13:08
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ashiswinlike13:08
ashiswinprogramming an OS from bootloader up13:09
ashiswindoes anyone know how?13:10
\shsiretart, looks good13:11
slytherinashiswin: Even if anyone knew this is not the channel for that kind of discussion.13:11
ashiswini mean13:11
ashiswincould someone pm me about it please13:11
siretart`\sh: with unionfs-fuse, or with karmic's in-kernel aufs?13:13
\shsiretart, default kernel aufs13:13
siretart`that would indeed be great!13:13
siretart`let's just hope that it won't get broken again in lucid's kernel13:14
\shsiretart, I'm now at install stage...and it looks really good13:14
\shsiretart, it will..there are problems with squeeze already13:14
\shsiretart, something to do with update-initramfs divertion of fai13:14
siretart`great13:14
siretart`:-/13:14
\shsiretart, let's get karmic rolling first, thomas deals with squeeze, too...and we are running into the same problems with lucid, hopefully the issues are fixed by then :)13:15
siretart`agreed13:16
porthose_DktrKranz, would you mind if I did the gl-117 merge/sync?14:34
DktrKranzporthose_: please go ahead :)14:38
porthose_ok ty :)14:38
LaneyDktrKranz: why did you ping me about pidgin-facebookchat t'other day?14:41
bddebianHeya folks14:44
Laneyhi bddebian14:45
bddebianHi Laney14:45
DktrKranzLaney: my error, sorry14:45
Laneyheh heh14:45
Laneyit had gone out of my scrollback14:45
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\shsiretart, svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/fai/people/shermann/fai-3.3.2ubuntu1 <- fai 3.3.2 for karmic working15:24
* siretart` hugs \sh!15:25
\sh:)15:26
siretart`\sh: will you upload to karmic then?15:26
siretart`we can backport in our ppa anyways..15:26
\shsiretart, to karmic? nope that's not possible...I'll create some ppa packages15:26
siretart`why not?15:26
\shkarmic is released?15:26
siretart`dammit. lucid I mean15:28
\shsiretart, lucid based on squeeze , fai on squeeze == fail15:28
\shsiretart, well..I'll check tomorrow, if this fai version works with lucid from tomorrow...something really strange happened on squeeze, someone from gonicus reported that15:29
\shsiretart, http://pastebin.com/d74d46de5 <- that was his output...last lines update-initramfs not creating an initrd15:30
\shsiretart, btw..I can upload to ppa:fai/ppa, right?15:31
siretart`\sh: yes, feel free.15:36
siretart`\sh: I've made you admin of ~fai now. you're obviously way more active than me :-)15:38
\shsiretart, lol...I have a problem now15:40
\shRejected:15:40
\shfai_3.3.2ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc: Format is not 1.0. This is incompatible with dpkg-source.15:40
\shdpkg-source failed for fai_3.3.2ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc [return: 9]15:40
siretart`\sh: may I suggest that you take the fai-3.3.2.tar.gz as orig.tar.gz, and upload it as non-native format 1.0  package?15:41
siretart`that's what I did for the last uploads15:41
siretart`and makes it easy for thomas to review the ubuntu changes. they will end up in the .diff.gz15:42
\shsiretart, thomas reviews them inside SVN ;)15:42
siretart`yes15:42
\sh.dsc file tells me: Format 3.0 (native)15:42
siretart`\sh: try removing debian/source/format15:43
\sha jetzt ja, eine insel15:44
siretart`v3 support will come soon *sic*15:44
\shwell...if this upload succeeds now, you can go and test it on your local infra :)15:47
\shsiretart, uploaded and building15:51
siretart`excellent15:54
fcuk112https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/d-shlibs/+bug/484194 uscan -verbose doesn't bring anything back, how do i get at the updated source in debian testing?15:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 484194 in d-shlibs "Please sync d-shlibs 0.41 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New]15:56
g33kwhich is the best method to make a meta deb file which takes care of just the dependencies? i tired to add them in the control file, the meta deb has no source in it, i used dpkg-deb -b doest seem to do the job15:58
siretart`g33k: look at equivs15:59
g33ksiretart, actually as of now, i have few lot of shell scripts which are checking if the required dep is present if not doing an apt-get, using is cdbs is better? me looking at equivs also what do u suggest sir?16:01
siretart`parse error, bailing out16:03
* g33k stacktrace for parse error16:05
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randomactionfcuk112: get at the updated source? you mean, download it?16:47
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fcuk112randomaction: yes.16:48
EzraRhow can i check if a package has been auto synced to lucid?16:48
StevenKEzraR: Check Launchpad16:48
randomactionfcuk112: pull-debian-source or http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages or http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html16:49
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EzraRStevenK: ok so if i cant find it on launchpad it didnt get synced?16:51
StevenKEzraR: Which package are you concerned about?16:51
EzraRStevenK: flam316:52
EzraRStevenK: im trying to workout electricsheep and it depends on it16:52
pace_t_zuluis ajmitch around?16:55
EzraRStevenK: its in debian testing16:56
pace_t_zului'm trying to get a package synced for lucid16:57
pace_t_zului suppose everyone is doing UDS stuff16:57
pace_t_zulu:/16:57
EzraRi guess i could grab the debian package and test with that, then if there is a problem i would already have a head start on it16:59
cody-somervilleyup16:59
EzraRit WILL get synced though right?17:01
pace_t_zuluhave debian packages all been synced?17:02
pace_t_zuluthat's why i'm here17:02
randomactionsome apparently haven't17:03
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fcuk112randomaction: thanks for that.17:06
pace_t_zuluso should we just wait for a bit then?17:07
randomactionI think so, and if the package in question doesn't get synced, you can ask the AAs or file a manual sync request17:12
randomactionactually, I took a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration and found that "auto-sync" is a relatively involved process17:13
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fabrice_sp_take into account also that 3.0 packages cannot be synced right now18:26
ari-tczewhello18:28
fabrice_sp_hello18:30
fabrice_sp_fcuk112, a sync request has to be put as new to get sponsorship18:30
ari-tczewfabrice_sp_: do you work today on sponsorship?18:31
fabrice_sp_in half an hour (just back from work), and got scared by the volume of bugs reports waiting for sponsorship :-)18:32
ari-tczew:)18:32
ari-tczewhow long autosync is work?18:35
StevenKari-tczew: I just ran one ...18:35
StevenKBut it will be run until the Debian Import Freeze18:36
ari-tczewI'm asking about this because I saw syncs requests of packages which wasn't changed after sync from Debian - I see no reason for requesting this if autosync will done this18:38
LaneyStevenK: Are people processing sync requests? Nothing seemed doing last week and I guess now it's on hold for UDS18:38
StevenKLaney: I've been doing some, but I've mostly been distracted by sessions18:42
LaneyI've had some sitting for 2 weeks now18:44
Laneyseems unusual18:44
Laneybut, oh well, not complaining18:44
StevenKLaney: Would you like me to process one?18:54
StevenK(Or two? I have a few seconds spare)18:54
LaneyStevenK: No, not urgent, just observing18:54
fabrice_sp_jdong, do you have time to have a look at bug #401039?19:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401039 in xf86-input-evtouch "Add support for TouchPack family touchscreens (Clevo TN120 series tablets / ASUS eeeTOP and other devices)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40103919:03
ajmitchpace_t_zulu: you were looking for me for something?19:19
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jdongfabrice_sp_: you're acked19:32
fabrice_sp_cool. Thanks! I will be able to demonstrate to my son that I do something for Ubuntu :-) (even if it's only sponsoring something ;-) )19:33
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jdonghahahaha19:34
randomactionsponsoring is good! :)19:35
jdongit absolutely is19:35
jdongone of the biggest complaints I hear is that the sponsorship queue is too latent19:36
jbernard_what do I need to do to get the latest version of 'mr' in lucid? is it as simple as requesting a sync?19:37
jbernard_there is no ubuntu delta, so I'm thinking yes19:38
StevenKjbernard_: If there is no Ubuntu delta, don't bother -- it will get autosync'd19:39
jbernard_StevenK, ahh, perfect19:39
jbernard_StevenK: when will this occur?19:40
StevenKjbernard_: We have the latest package in Lucid that is in testing?19:40
jbernard_StevenK: oh, that's whats going on, is it possible to pull from sid?19:41
jbernard_im guessing no19:41
StevenK0.43 is in sid, too?19:41
StevenKBut yes, we can, if needed19:41
jbernard_my mistake, i had not seen that 0.43 was already in lucid19:42
jbernard_that solves my problem19:42
jbernard_StevenK: thanks19:42
StevenKjbernard_: No problem19:42
fabrice_sp__randomaction, I know :-) But try to explain that to a 10 years old kid, and you'll see :-D19:49
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ari-tczewTimeout error20:01
ari-tczewOur edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad.net, so we can catch those before they hit a wider audience. As a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team, you're more likely to experience them. If this is blocking your work, you can disable redirection.20:01
ari-tczewDisable redirection for 2 hours20:01
ari-tczewSorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.20:01
ajmitchari-tczew: then report it in #launchpad20:03
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ari-tczewOK20:08
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yofelhi, could someone from the motu-sru team please review and if ok sponsor the patch in bug 484322?20:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 484322 in treeline "Treeline Won't Even Run in 9.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48432220:35
jdongoh y'all kids20:35
jdongnot even waiting for lp bugmail to propagate :)20:36
jdong*looks*20:36
yofelhey jdong ^^20:36
ajmitchshocking, isn't is20:36
ajmitchit's not as good as bugs against revu because a .changes file is needed20:38
ari-tczewwe are going to get syncs request over than 200! :D20:39
ajmitch?20:39
randomactionmany syncs == good interaction with Debian :)20:40
ajmitchI guess it could be looked at that way20:40
StevenKari-tczew: We so aren't20:47
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pace_t_zuluajmitch: yea i was checking in about debian package syncing for lucid21:01
ajmitchI'm not the person to ask about it, and you just need to wait :)21:02
ajmitchfirst few weeks before/around UDS can be funny21:02
pace_t_zuluajmitch: ty21:04
pace_t_zuluajmitch: just trying to stay on top of it21:04
jdongyofel: see comment.21:08
pace_t_zuluajmitch: who is the person to ask about it?21:15
yofeljdong: done21:21
jdongawesome21:23
ajmitchpace_t_zulu: I''d say the archive team, but they probably won't appreciate getting repeated pokes about their queue of sync requests :)21:24
pace_t_zululike cjwatson ?21:25
LaneyI noticed some got done, good work StevenK!21:32
yofeljdong: where do I get a sponsor for  the debdiff again?21:33
jdonggrrrrrr21:34
jdonglol21:34
jdongI'll look back here in 30 minutes21:34
jdongand if you don't have a sponsor I'll do it at that time :)21:34
StevenKLaney: There is a looooooooong list21:34
ajmitchStevenK: we'll try not to mercilessly nag you then21:35
StevenKHah21:35
StevenKI'm not the only archive admin to nag :-P21:35
ajmitchI know, but you're easier to nag21:37
ajmitchtimezones & all21:37
StevenKCertainly not currently, I'm not ....21:37
ajmitchno, you're 5 hours out rather than 2 :)21:37
StevenK5 hours yesterday, which is more the pity21:38
ajmitchI don't envy you the flights there & bacck21:39
StevenKajmitch: It's easier than Europe. I got here in 17 hours, whereas I only get to London after 2021:39
ajmitch20 hours to london? luxury!21:40
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