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[00:35] <directhex> i think there's a race condition in these parts
[01:15] <Josh____> whoever said debian is a hard distro to run myth on, I disagree completely. It was relatively painless to set up, and I only had to enable one third-party repo.
[01:16] <hads> Thanks for letting us know.
[01:56] <spiderworm> i bought a case that came with a motherboard.  the motherboard had an onboard nvidia video card with HDMI out and onboard sound card.  i am trying to get the HDMI audio out working but im starting to suspect that my motherboard doesnt support audio through the HDMI cable.  is that possible?
[02:47] <baz_> directhex, how'd u do that
[03:59] <Technophil> Can anyone tell me what to do to change from a JYA repo to use the daily builds as noted at http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds please?
[03:59] <Technophil> I assume I untick his repo in synaptic, but then what?
[04:00]  * rhpot1991 waves at Technophil 
[04:00] <hipitihop> spiderworm, I have a POV ION 330 board and I suspected the same thing. I had to go into alsamixer and enable the correct switch and also set mythtv sound output the HDMI
[04:01] <rhpot1991> hipitihop: he is gone I think
[04:02] <Technophil> rhpot1991: Great to see you here Dude!
[04:22] <Technophil> Hmmm  I've installed the daily build repo manager software, doing an update in synaptic it is telling me it will install nvidia-185-modaliases however my system is currently configured with 190.42, is that compatible or is a 190 version required?  (Should I mark and install or not?)
[04:41] <rhpot1991> Technophil: 190.42 should be available from the daily builds server, but you might be hitting some dependency issues there
[04:41] <rhpot1991> maybe see if installing nvidia-gld-190 or libvdpau1 first helps
[04:41] <rhpot1991> nvidia-glx-190
[04:44] <Technophil> nvidia-glx-190 is already installed, once JYA's repo is activated one uninstalls nvidia-glx-185 by installing nvidia-glx-190, which then pulls down the latest in his repo, which is also currently 190.42.
[04:45] <Technophil> libvdpau1  (0.2-0ubuntu15) is also already installed.
[04:48] <Technophil> Actually looking more into synaptic nvidia-185-modaliases is already installed and it is flagging it should be updated from "185.18.36-0ubuntu9" to  "185.18.36-0ubuntu9+ppa2".    nvidia-190-modaliases is there but not installed!  Hmmm  I guess that should be ok then.
[04:49] <hads> May be conflicting versions between repos. You can remove them and reinstall.
[04:49] <hads> Then you know you are using packages from the new repository.
[04:50] <Technophil> I wondered, but then it seems to be working ok with 190.42 installed under nvidia-185-modaliases  !
[04:51] <hads> It may well work fine with packages from both repositories installed.
[04:51] <Technophil> Will let you know!
[04:51] <hads> The modaliases is just for jockey - the Hardware Drivers applet.
[04:52] <hads> It's not actually something that's used day to day.
[04:52] <Technophil> ok thanks.
[04:53] <Technophil> Actually the daily builds only seems to include themes and not mythtv fixesxxxxx
[04:54] <rhpot1991> you prob have to dist-upgrade
[04:55] <hads> Yeah it does have mythtv packages.
[04:56] <Technophil> So the only advantages I can see with the JYA repo is that hes got some digital audio stuff and also added some debugging stuff.  Nvidia is as up to date.
[05:47] <jtmoney> i'm running regular ubuntu... if i add the myhbuntu repository, can i upgrade to 0.22 final? do i have to remove my current mythtv packages first?
[11:26] <spiderworm> i have this strange problem with gdm since upgrading to 9.10 where i have to log in multiple times before it finally takes me to the desktop environment.  anyone able to help?
[16:01] <Thrae|pc> Hi, I'm using the latest Mythbuntu x64 and I can't get my http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/AVerTV_HD_A180 to find any channels. The module (saa7134) is properly loaded and there's no associated errors.
[16:02] <Thrae|pc> While scanning it shows signal bars for the correct frequencies, but MythTV setup says its not a valid channel. Additionally, if I manually add the channels by their frequency, and then try to tune in to any of them, it just sits there for a second and goes back to the main menu.
[16:03] <Thrae|pc> This is all HD-OTA using a dvb device.
[16:06] <Thrae|pc> Oh, I wouldn't be saying any of this if it didn't work just fine in Windows both 32-bit and 64-bit. Even Windows 7.
[16:08] <gregL> Thrae|pc, if you type in dmesg at the console does say the card firmware is loaded?
[16:10] <Thrae|pc> gregL: Yeah, dmesg is where I'm checking for errors. It's loading it and making /dev/adapter0
[16:15] <gregL> Thrae|pc, I know there has been some problems with loading the firmware in Ubuntu since the update,but i haven't paid attention to the details..You might try doing a search in the mailing list archive,or the ubuntu forums..
[16:16] <Thrae|pc> Hmm, wouldn't that give an error in dmesg usually?
[16:18] <gregL> Like i said i don't really know the issues,but either hang here for a while or check the ML or forums...
[16:20] <gregL> Thrae|pc, Do you have a different kernel available to you to try? Maybe you could try that..
[16:22] <Thrae|pc> Honestly this isn't the first time I tried switching over to Mythbuntu from Windows (god I hate a Windows HTPC, so much overkill). I tried earlier on 8.10 and still couldn't get channels, although this time it would say "cannot update tables" or some such crap.
[16:22] <Thrae|pc> If it was a problem with the kernel, it's been a problem for a while.
[16:23] <Thrae|pc> And that was a 32-bit kernel too on different hardware (except the same tuner).
[16:23] <Thrae|pc> Lemme try 8.04.1 just for laughs.
[16:25] <gregL> It's to bad you are having problems..My stuff just works....You can try using dvb scan (i think that s the name of the program) and import your channels that way...
[16:26] <Thrae|pc> gregL: Yeah, I already tried entering the frequencies by hand.
[16:26] <Thrae|pc> Not using dvb scan, but using the HD OTA table for my zipcode.
[16:28] <Thrae|pc> Just to note -- I know I have an old, cheap, crappy HD chipset. I don't feel I really have any room to complain, just looking for possible answers.
[16:31] <gregL> Did you let the scan run all the way till it was complete? I know also there is a problem with the channel scan.. I usually let it scan till it stops the for every pop up i chose ignore and it works for me..I don't have a a180 though mine is a air to pc..
[16:34] <Thrae|pc> Hmmm I had an idea. I could use MythTV or better yet XBMC and configure a script to change the default operating system to boot in grub's menu and issue a hard reboot command, so Windows would only be needed for the occasional HD OTA usage.
[16:38] <gregL> I think you can get that card working in Mythtv,it's just a matter of getting the right person to lend you a hand..
[16:40] <Thrae|pc> Well that would certainly be the easiest. Just thinking of other solutions with good ROI.
[17:04] <johannes__> Hi, I have (also) an upgrade problem related to nvidia and libvdpau. I think others might be run into the same problem. Could anyone give me a quick hint / link. Thanks
[17:07] <johannes__> Details can be found here: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d6a910ec4
[17:07] <johannes__> contains dpkg -l nvidia*, dpkl -l mythtv* and the aptitude conflict messages
[17:43] <Thrae7> johannes__: Hmm, did you know the latest stable nvidia proprietary driver is 190.42? I think for best results you should be using that instead of 185.xx, which might fix the problem anyway.
[17:44] <Thrae7> johannes__: Overall, from my experience working with video chipset QA, when Nvidia releases a new *nix driver it's pretty stable.
[18:04] <johannes__> Thrae7: I tried installing 190
[18:04] <johannes__> the problem is: mythlib has a dependency to nvidia-180-libvdpau
[18:05] <johannes__> that can't be fullfilled
[18:05] <Thrae7> johannes__: Does 190.42 install its own version of libdpau?
[18:07] <cba123> I got an Acer Aspire Revo R1600, it has an Atom 1.6ghz chip, and an nvidia IONle GPU.  I put mythbuntu karmic on it, and it can handle 1080p with vdpau, but only if I kill mythfrontend first, since it only has 1gig ram.  If I run top over ssh I can see my ram is frequently 50meg free (without frontend) and goes up and down.  Does anyone have one of these and know any other tweaks?  I'll get more ram if I have to, put if
[18:07] <cba123>  anyone knows any other software tweaks I'd appreciate it.
[18:07] <johannes__> Thrae7: there is no own version of libdpau in 190
[18:08] <johannes__> it is contained in the deb
[18:08] <johannes__> so the files are there
[18:08] <johannes__> but not the hard coded dependency to nvidia-180-libvdpau
[18:11] <Thrae7> johannes__: Yeah if you can get the 190 equivalents then you can ignore that error and force it to install.
[18:12] <johannes__> Thrae7: Hmm. I try.
[18:12] <johannes__> thanks
[18:14] <johannes__> do you have a hint how I can "blacklist" a deb?
[18:14] <johannes__> nvidia-180-libvdpau can't be installed since it contains the same files as in nvidia-glx-190
[18:15] <Thrae7> johannes__: The problem is that it can't install the other deb, so if you use the correct force syntax it'll only install the mythtv crap.
[18:21] <johannes__> hmm
[18:21] <johannes__> does not work
[18:21] <johannes__> can't install  nvidia-180-libvdpau (conflicting files)
[18:22] <johannes__> but without it mythbackend doesn't start: error while loading shared libraries: libvdpau.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:22] <johannes__> bad luck
[18:26] <Thrae7> johannes__: I thought you said you installed the 190 version of libvdpau
[18:26] <johannes__> yes
[18:26] <johannes__> there is an conflict between nvidia-180-libvdpau and nvidia-190
[18:27] <johannes__> but it seems that not all files are installed
[18:27] <johannes__> so i am switching back to 185
[18:27] <Thrae7> johannes__: One second
[18:28] <Thrae7> johannes__: I think I can fix this for you to use 190.
[18:34] <tgm4883> why are you installing nvidia-180-libvdpau?
[18:34] <tgm4883> install libvbpau1 instead
[18:35] <tgm4883> johannes__, Thrae7 ^^
[18:35] <Thrae7> tgm4883: Whatever version of mythtv he's installing has nvidia-180-libvdpau has a dependency.
[18:35] <tgm4883> yea thats a known issue. Upgrade your packages from the mythbuntu-repos
[18:36] <johannes__> tgm4883: What should I do? I have mythbuntu-repos installed
[18:36] <tgm4883> johannes__, did you upgrade the mythtv packages?
[18:37] <johannes__> yes
[18:37] <johannes__> aptitude dist-upgrade
[18:37] <johannes__> mythtv-backend; 0.22.0+trunk22851-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1
[18:37] <tgm4883> ok
[18:37] <tgm4883> and you tried installing nvidia-glx-190
[18:38] <johannes__> yes
[18:38] <tgm4883> did that install fine?
[18:39] <johannes__> nvidia-glx-190 can only installed if mythtv* is removed
[18:39] <johannes__> since the dep problem related to nvidia-180-libvdpau
[18:40] <johannes__> the problem is libmyth-0.22.0
[18:40] <tgm4883> iirc, if you allow it to remove mythtv then installing -190 then you can install mythtv just fine afterwords
[18:40] <johannes__> there is a dependency: http://pastebin.com/d218f8e61
[18:40] <johannes__> to nvidia-185-libvdpau
[18:41] <johannes__> but the libmyth-0.22-0 version is 0.22.0+trunk22851-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1
[18:41] <johannes__> is that the correct version? Do you have the same?
[18:41] <tgm4883> dpkg -l libmyth-0.22-0
[18:41] <tgm4883> hmm
[18:42] <tgm4883> mine is slightly older
[18:49] <Thrae7> johannes__: Is apt-cache searching libmyth from the mythbuntu repo? Since it may be getting it from a deb you already downloaded from the main ubuntu repo.
[18:49] <johannes__> Thrae7: how can I find out?
[18:50] <Thrae7> johannes__: Try apt-cache gencaches
[18:50] <Thrae7> Then check the depends again
[18:51] <johannes__> nothing changed
[18:53] <Thrae7> johannes__: Try apt-cache -i depends
[18:53] <errr-or> hi, i installed mythbuntu with my dvb-s2 card. i can watch tv in mythbuntu (does sometimes crash and i get back to the menu). i installed kaffeine today for easy tv watching :) i can setup my tv card, its also displayed but if want to scan for channels it says no device found... any hints?
[18:54] <errr-or> ah and no error message displayed in terminal
[18:55] <Thrae7> errr-or: Does it say DVB-S2 MODULATION FOUND when you start it from a terminal?
[18:57] <errr-or> hmm doesnt say anything now.
[18:57] <errr-or> just starts
[18:58] <Thrae7> errr-or: What version does it show?
[18:58] <errr-or> Kaffeine: 1.0-pre2
[19:00] <errr-or> on ubuntu it worked. now i installed mythbuntu from scratch and now it doesnt.. but in mythtv it works.
[19:00] <johannes__> ok. thanks for your help. see you later
[19:01] <Thrae7> errr-or: http://kaffeine.kde.org/?q=faq#question20
[19:01] <errr-or> i use firmware dvb-fe-cx24116-1.20.79.0.fw
[19:02] <errr-or> ah mom
[19:02] <errr-or> found the error. :)
[19:03] <errr-or> i had to stop mythtv-backend
[19:03] <errr-or> now it works
[19:03] <Thrae7> Ah, it probably locked the device
[19:03] <errr-or> yes, good to know :)
[19:29] <jortan> Using Mythbuntu 9.10 and trying MythBrowser. I can't find any way to add bookmarks. Where do I do that?
[19:42] <jortan> Found it. Press 'm' and there is the menu.... sorry
[20:27] <pulaski> Hello, I run kubuntu 9.10 karmic koala, I recently installed mythtv in a couple of steps.  I believe I began by using apt-get to install the mythbuntu-control-center, then apt-get install mythtv.  I have found mythtv to be to cumbersome for my old box and a bit of overkill for simply watching dvds through an external player. Now I wish to remove the whole works. I removed the two packages I had installed but the MythTV
[20:27] <pulaski>  Frontend (MythTV Veiwer) remains.  Does anyone know what that package called so I may remove it?
[20:33] <hads> dpkg -l | grep mythtv
[21:44] <jeffjeffdejeff> where do i find the log grabber please? i think it's disappeared. :(
[21:45] <hads> It's called mythbuntu-log-grabber
[21:45] <jeffjeffdejeff> thought it was available from menu. do i run that from the terminal?
[21:46] <jeffjeffdejeff> not installed.  installing now.  that's wierd
[21:47] <jeffjeffdejeff> need to find out what's going on.  can't watch tv.  have numerous recordings with no file found, can't delete them from "manage recordings"  grrr.
[21:49] <jeffjeffdejeff> brilliant - thanks hads.  needed to chmod 771 /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[21:49] <jeffjeffdejeff> *777
[21:49] <jeffjeffdejeff> god this thing keeps throwing me curveballs.
[22:00] <hads> No worries
[22:10] <jeffjeffdejeff> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f3fccbfdd any suggestions as to why i can burn a dvd of a recording?
[22:27] <ernstp> how do I merge channels from xmltv and from dvb-scan?
[22:27] <ernstp> they show up as different channels