[04:48] <Ng> bryce: I hope you noticed that the rooms here have a VGA cable for the TV :)
[04:48] <bryce> Ng, indeed!
[04:48]  * Ng hacking code on LVDS1 while VGA1 plays video \o/
[04:48] <bryce> nice
[04:48] <Ng> although it hated doing it at 1080, so I had to go for the next mode down
[04:49] <bryce> yeah unfortunately I didn't bring any rips
[18:54] <jcristau> tjaalton: you not at uds?
[18:55] <bryce_> tjaalton, there aren't really anyone but me here for X, so didn't seem worthwhile to have a bunch of X sessions
[18:55] <bryce_> anyway --> lunch
[18:58] <tjaalton> jcristau: nope, just finished a two week trip to south korea & hong kong, so it was a no-op ;)
[18:59] <jcristau> heh
[19:02] <tjaalton> hey, what about debian? the freeze was pushed forward to March am I right?
[19:03] <jcristau> yes
[19:04] <tjaalton> ok, so 1.8 is theoretically possible?
[19:05] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe wait until bryce is here.. I'll be back later
[19:06] <jcristau> yeah.  if somebody works on it.  right now X in debian has nobody with enough time
[20:51] <tjaalton> bryce: yeah, ok. I'll post my opinion about the 1.8 issue on the list tomorrow, too tired now :)
[20:51] <bryce> ok
[20:51] <bryce> tjaalton, will you be staying for the proprietary driver talk (in 10 min)?
[20:52] <tjaalton> hum
[20:52] <tjaalton> let me check the spec
[20:54] <tjaalton> I should be getting to bed right now, but I'll comment some of the points here:
[20:56] <tjaalton> the patches; still needs an overhaul of the way how the default driver is selected by the server, when coming from a simple xorg.conf, otherwise it'll break (ie. always uses the first option, no fallback)
[20:57] <tjaalton> alternatives vs. diversions; I think the latter is well tested by now, and I suspect there might be other problems by using the alternatives system (not being consistent all the time, what package get's the top priority etc)
[20:58] <tjaalton> other than that, I don't have much to comment right now :)
[21:00] <tjaalton> still jetlagged, so bye for now and "see" you tomorrow ->
[21:03] <bryce> thanks
[21:04] <bryce> for anyone interested in the discussion /join #ubuntu-uds-lonestar2
[21:29] <bryce> tseliot, are you following the discussion ok?
[21:30] <tseliot> bryce: yes, I can hear most of it
[21:30] <Riotta> hello
[21:33] <Riotta> don't know is this a good place to ask but guys from #ubuntu-bugs pointed me here
[21:34] <Riotta> I'm and some other Ubuntu 9.10 having problem with xserver-xorg-input-evdev package
[21:35] <Riotta> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/441408 launchpad entry is available here
[21:35] <Riotta> we tested this issue alot
[21:36] <Riotta> and we came to conclusion that the cause of this problem can be in some changed which were made for ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04
[21:36] <Riotta> in this package, so any fixes/patches applied could broke the package
[21:38] <Riotta> I can test more and share with the knowledge I have gathered in order to fix this bug with you
[22:25] <Riotta> anyone can help me?
[22:41] <tormod> Riotta, if you have narrowed it down to a -evdev version, that's pretty good
[22:41] <Riotta> I hope so
[22:46] <tormod> Riotta, if you check the changelog, you'll see 2.2.3 had a fix for a similar issue
[22:47] <tormod> Riotta, there are no Debian/Ubuntu patches in it, so it is probably an upstream bug.
[22:47] <tormod> Before filing a bug at bugs.freedesktop.org, you should try the latest upstream version.
[22:48] <tormod> We have newest xserver and evdev in the xorg-edgers PPA for lucid
[22:49] <Riotta> ah
[22:52] <Riotta> so basically you telling me to check same package from xorg-edgers ppa and see if it will be bug-free?
[23:06] <Riotta> hello again