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psypher246verterok: after quitting and going back in again the client is again set to 0kb shapeing00:11
psypher246andf won't connect00:12
psypher246ping verterok00:34
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aplundMy client is having trouble connecting and the logs say it is stuck in the state STANDOFF_WAITING_WITH_NETWORK_WITH_BOTHQ01:07
aplundwhat does this mean, and is there any clear fix?01:08
aplundif I restart the syncdaemon it gets stuck in the state START_WORKING_ON_METADATA_WITH_CONTQ01:18
aplundand it gets into that state on a Unlink call01:19
aplundhttp://pastebin.ca/167425501:22
Helsinkiiihi01:39
Helsinkiiiwhat happens if i put stuff in "shared with me"?01:39
netbookHelsinkiii I think that is reserved for material people share with you01:46
Helsinkiiihow do i add "people"01:46
netbookemail address01:46
netbookright click on something in Documents01:46
netbookthere is an option to share with ubuntu one01:47
netbooknot the most obvious mechanic01:47
netbookerr looks like you can only share folders01:47
netbookwhat is you email lets try it01:47
netbookthis is the email that you registered with ubuntu one01:48
netbookdoh he left01:50
netbooki really want to try this out01:50
aplundas far as I can see your lucky to get anything to work at all01:51
aplundI keep getting these deadlocks01:51
popeyworks here :)01:51
aplunddat helps heaps01:52
popeywell whats the specific issue?01:52
aplundsee above?01:52
aplundI got no help01:52
aplundso I tried some drastic things01:53
popeysuch as?01:53
netbookusing latest client aplund?01:53
aplundyup01:53
aplundwell01:53
aplundholdon..01:53
aplund1.0.2-0ubuntu201:53
aplundis that the latest?01:54
popeyits the latest in 9.10, yes01:54
netbooklet me see01:54
aplundI destroyed the cache01:54
aplundand the local config01:54
netbooktried reinstalling it?01:54
aplundand the local files01:54
aplundthen had another go01:55
netbookthat probably lost the connection info01:55
aplundyeah01:55
aplundbut there was clearly an issue with Unlinking it01:55
aplundto just stopped01:55
netbooki suggest going into synaptic package manager01:55
netbookand competely removing it01:55
netbookand reinstalling it01:55
aplundwell01:56
aplundI'll let it resync01:56
netbookgood luck01:56
aplundand see if the files have updated01:56
aplundthen I'll call again when I get the issue again01:56
aplund(happens every day)01:56
netbookhow much storage are you using?01:57
netbookbtw login to the ubuntuone website01:58
netbooksee what comps are authorized01:58
aplund4mb01:58
netbookmaybe try and reauthorise01:58
aplundyeah.. it's all good01:58
aplunddone all that01:58
netbooki had to reauthorize my box after the first client was a bit borked01:59
netbookafter install it generates some key01:59
aplundI never used it until 9.10 was released01:59
netbookme too01:59
netbookgood luck01:59
* popey has been using it since the first release01:59
popeywell, beta01:59
aplundyeah.. if I can recreate then I'll be back01:59
aplundsee if someone else can put some light onto the problem02:00
tarragonI am trying to get ubuntuone working under Kubuntu. The client installed but does not sync. When I right click and go to the web interface, I have to sign in which shows a file I have placed their, but this is not on my desktop share and anything else in the share in not in ubuntuone as no sync. Does ubuntuone work with Kubuntu. How do I make it sync? Am I missing a config file to say where my account is?10:02
Helsinkiiihi14:07
Helsinkiiihow can i get ubunto one to stop loading when my pc boots14:07
Helsinkiiii use it on occasion14:08
jblountDesktop+ MEETING BEGINS15:01
jblountHi! Not in Texas? Want to talk about what you're doing? "me" gets you in the queue!15:01
jblountme15:02
jblountDONE: Mountain of email, some robot pictures, etc15:04
jblountTODO: Get Robot live, work on some template weirdness with updown, BBQ because I'm not in Texas :)15:04
jblountBLOCKED: Done15:04
jblountEOM15:04
statikpoor jblount15:16
statikfaithfully reporting status15:16
statiki'm excited to see those robots though!15:16
jblountstatik: :)15:18
vdsjblount: robots? what kind of robots?15:21
jblountvds: Just drawings of robots for our error pages :)15:23
vdsah cool15:23
urbanapeme15:36
urbanapeDONE: Submitted a lazr-js branch in prep for a new ubuntuone-servers branch, got my PPA working and pushed a Bindwood experimental package there, UDSing.15:36
urbanapeTODO: Finish the ubuntuone-servers branch (will likely need some CSS work done by jblount), keep on UDSing.15:36
urbanapeBLOCK: None15:36
CardinalFangthisfred, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/changes-notifications-to-clients/+merge/1495415:37
CardinalFangNo hurry.15:37
thisfredohai!15:37
thisfredcool15:37
CardinalFangoffline a bit.15:38
thisfredCardinalFang: I like this idea!15:42
thisfredIt feels very much in line with how _changes itself works15:43
TechnovikingDoes contac syncing work now?15:50
jblountTechnoviking: "Sources say yes"15:50
jblountTechnoviking: + if you are at UDS you can have rodrigo take a look for you :)15:51
Technovikingjblount: will find him15:51
CardinalFangre15:52
urbanapeCardinalFang: I guess you can disregard my comment.15:55
CardinalFangOh?15:56
CardinalFangI was just going to look for it.15:56
urbanapeI don't think it does what you were looking for (or at least what's in your branch)15:59
urbanapeI think I misinterpreted what you needed.16:00
urbanapemaybe?16:00
thisfredCardinalFang: ah I misunderstood the branch description: I thought you'd just chosed to have something like a changes(since=0) method that API consumers could call, that minimally abstracts over the http call. But that would burden client apps with keeping state and knowing about revision numbers.16:06
thisfredchosed16:07
thisfredreally16:07
thisfredI blame early onset senility16:07
thisfredthat or too much lolcats16:07
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CardinalFangthisfred, You has a Alzhaimers!16:10
urbanapethisfred, CardinalFang: That's what I assumed, too, and why I pointed out the javascript lib.16:12
CardinalFangSorry.  I mislead.16:12
urbanapeand yes, Bindwood has to keep track of its last know sequence number16:12
urbanapeno worries16:12
urbanapeif this is something that closes over it, that would be keen16:13
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jonasbbWhere can i see, which user i had allowed to see my files.16:17
urbanapein Nautilus or in the web?16:19
urbanapein the web, you can choose the folder in the left-hand pane, and click the "Sharing" button above the file list.16:19
jonasbbthx16:20
thisfredCardinalFang: I'm sort of confused: we register a callback function *and* we call the function that calls the callback from our own client mainloop, correct? If that is true, why not just have a get_changes() method that the app can call from its mainloop? The callback seems overly complicated16:22
CardinalFangthisfred, This could return what has changed.  Then people with their mainloops would have to write a function that runs us, and operates on our return value.  They'd then register that new function with their main loop.16:25
tarragonI am trying to sync under Kubuntu. It just hangs. Where do I need to enter account details?16:26
CardinalFangthisfred, Instead, I decided that the user should write a function that takes single changes, and register us with their mainloop, with their function as a parameter.  If there's nothing to do, then nothing is called that they write.16:26
thisfredCardinalFang: so the main difference is the function they have to write (dealing with a single change vs. a list of changes) ? I think having to think about callbacks more or less voids that advantage16:28
thisfredbut then they already have to think about mainloops and such, so maybe not16:28
CardinalFangthisfred, the main difference is that I wrote the condition/looping code that everyone would write.  I think it's better to say "you, write a function that should be run for every change, and then register that as a parameter to F .16:30
thisfredhttp://friendpaste.com/6oJg14kfXi8HhSJNgsyE8216:31
thisfredand get_changes could be report_changes minus the callback?16:32
thisfredto me it seems one layer less complicated16:33
thisfredbut I may still be missing the reason it needs that layer16:34
CardinalFangthisfred, Hrm, okay.  I agree.16:34
thisfredteknico_: do you know the answer to tarragon's question?16:38
teknico_thisfred, reading16:39
* thisfred will pay attention to be able to answer himself next time16:40
teknico_tarragon, make sure you have gnome-keyring installed16:40
teknico_tarragon, when starting, ubuntuone-client-applet should ask for the password to the gnome keyring16:41
teknico_it does not yet use kwallet  under kde16:41
teknico_(I'm not sure that's your problem, just a shot in the dark :-) )16:42
tarragonYes I think that will possibly be the solution. Under .gnome there is no keyring directory. Should the package not install this as a dependency?16:48
teknico_tarragon, yes, it should. since this client is usually installed under gnome, some packages' presence is assumed :-)16:53
teknico_tarragon, will please submit a bug about that?16:53
teknico_will *you16:54
teknico_here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+filebug16:54
tarragonI will try to submit this as a bug request, sure16:56
Chipacatarragon: network manager is in the same situation of being needed but not listed in the dependencies17:01
tarragonIt works!! I had both python-gnomekeyring and libgnome-keyring0. Adding in gnome-keyring and starting the ubuntu-one-client-gnome then asked for my details, let me add in the machine and synced.  :-)17:02
urbanapeexcellent17:03
thisfredthanks teknico_ : I know what to suggest next time :)17:11
teknico_thisfred, well, at least it's worth trying :-)17:12
tarragonBug already listed as #473518. Funnily enough I could not add myself as also effected as the KDE default browser hangs after opening the add me box. Firefox worked fine.17:12
doctormoHey rmcbride17:19
rmcbrideHi doctormo17:21
doctormormcbride: How is you?17:21
rmcbrideI'm doing pretty good, you?17:21
CardinalFangthisfred, I added a function that returns the changes directly.17:22
Chipaca_rmcbride: that's not doctormo, it's an impostor17:22
Chipaca_rmcbride: he has no hat!17:22
thisfredCardinalFang: awesome, pulling & reviewing17:22
Chipaca_or maybe irc doesn't let him be doctormô17:22
Chipaca_:-p17:23
* Chipaca_ only makes fun of doctormo's hat because doctormo is sitting across the way, at punching distance17:23
rmcbrideChipaca_:  heh17:23
rmcbridedoctormo: so I guess you're at UDS then. I didn't get to go this time around.17:27
doctormoChipaca_: Er, Aye yes yes17:27
doctormormcbride: Who's got a hat, I Have!17:28
Chipaca_ooh, look, it's doctormo!17:28
rmcbridedoctormo: hehe17:28
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DoctorEmOwrmcbride: Seem any good shows to watch?17:28
DoctorEmOwseen*17:28
DoctorEmOwBecause it's a really good test of UbuntuOne17:29
rmcbrideDoctorEmOw: V has started out quite nice. I haven't seen the Prisoner remake yet, but I'm a little skeptical about that one17:29
Chipaca_hm... I could create a share with all the TED17:29
thisfredCardinalFang: did you push?17:29
DoctorEmOwChipaca_: I have all the TED17:29
Chipaca_DoctorEmOw: I hate you!17:30
Chipaca_now I've got to find space and leech them off of you17:30
CardinalFangthisfred, no.  Sorry.  Wonky net.17:30
CardinalFangthisfred, done.17:30
Chipaca_oh where, oh where could I *possibly* find a 1.5TB hard drive for 99$ in this town?17:30
rmcbrideTexas should have Fry's, I think, Chipaca_17:31
thisfredrmcbride: the prisoner was better than I feared17:31
thisfredrmcbride: but then I'm not that familiar with the original17:31
thisfredrmcbride: at least it beat the pants of the V remake17:31
rmcbridethisfred: I've watched the original dozens of times. I'm afraid the only way the remake could have been close would be if they had cast Hugh Laurie as Number 6. House's attitude and Laurie's real accent17:32
thisfredhehe17:32
rmcbridebut I'll catch it when they re run the first episode I hope17:32
rmcbridemissed it on Sunday17:32
thisfredrmcbride: I probably asked you this before, but did you ever see A Bit of Fry & Laurie?17:32
rmcbridethisfred: No. I think I've heard references but haven't seen it17:33
Chipaca_DoctorEmOw: http://code.google.com/p/cdpedia/17:33
urbanapethisfred: wonderful stuff17:33
thisfredrmcbride: it's Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie in a short sketch type comedy show. Still one of my favorites17:33
urbanapeamazing stuff.17:34
rmcbridethisfred: that sounds awesome. I'll have to track it down17:34
thisfredurbanape: yeah, I even bought the scripts17:34
Chipaca_DoctorEmOw: you might need google translate to read the readme, but then it just works17:34
thisfredalthough I think I may have given them away when I moved17:34
Chipaca_DoctorEmOw: it's basically download the dump, point the 'generate' script at it, wait a long time while it crunches (takes about a day for the spanish wikipedia), and it spits out the cd or the dvd17:35
Chipaca_DoctorEmOw: most of the heavy work only needs doing once, as it stores the preprocessed files17:35
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Chipaca_DoctorEmOw: however, you need ~50GB for the spanish wikipedia; the english one is probably 10x that :(17:36
doctormoChipaca_: thanks!17:36
CardinalFangthisfred, Small additional patch.17:41
thisfredCardinalFang: cool, remerging17:42
mgv2why dont i able to use the webbrowser panel? i dont see anything18:00
mgv2there is a no script windows that opens18:00
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thisfredCardinalFang: approved18:24
CardinalFangthisfred, thank you, sir.18:25
thisfredCardinalFang: that is, my +1 added, needs second review. If you can pry the gun from aq's hands, you might get him to do a second one ;)18:25
CardinalFangRgr.18:25
rtaggersyncdaemon.log: Failure: twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost. Is the "other side" the u1 server?19:32
facundobatistartagger, yeap19:42
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mgv2how can i access u1?21:30
joshuahoovermgv2: are you using ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10?21:31
mgv2ok iveg got it  - before i had a problem with no script21:32
mgv2now ive another problem21:32
joshuahoovermgv2: what problem are you running into now?21:32
mgv2in ubuntu ive backuped 2 files but at the web they miss21:32
joshuahoovermgv2: so you've put the files in your ~/Ubuntu One folder and they're not showing on the web?21:45
mgv2joshuahoover, yes21:58
joshuahoovermgv2: ok, and is the client showing it's connected or not showing at all?21:58
mgv2not connected21:58
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mgv2joshuahoover,21:59
joshuahoovermgv2: ok, can you please look at ~/.cache/ubuntuone/oauth-login.log and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ then post the url here?22:00
joshuahoovermgv2: also, please post ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon-exceptions.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ if it has anything in it22:01
mgv2joshuahoover, i cant find the cache folder22:05
atrusi seem to be unable to sync my tomboy notes anymore. tomboy complains about a 404 error. this a known issue at all?22:05
joshuahoovermgv2: it will be hidden in nautilus by default...if you press ctrl-h in your home folder you should be able to get to ~/.cache22:06
atrusit definitely worked a few days ago...22:07
joshuahooveratrus: we've seen this...not sure what the cause is...can you run the following from a command line and paste the result to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ & then post the link here: sudo apt-cache policy tomboy22:07
atrusjoshuahoover: only 1.0.0-0ubuntu2 from karmic/main22:08
joshuahooveratrus: ok...hmmm...22:08
mgv2joshuahoover, http://paste.ubuntu.com/321107/22:09
mgv2joshuahoover, i want to mention two things - im running encrypted hd - im using the hebrew sys22:10
joshuahoovermgv2: ok, that's good to know22:10
joshuahoovermgv2: anything in the ~/.cache/ubuntuone/oauth-login.log?22:10
atrusjoshuahoover: https://one.ubuntu.com/notes/ , which is what tomboy is configured to use, works fine in a browser.22:10
mgv2joshuahoover, yes - at line 122:10
joshuahoovermgv2: ok, i see it :)22:11
joshuahoovermgv2: if you quit the ubuntu one client and start it back up, can you tell me if that connects or if you see the same errors in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon-exceptions.log22:13
joshuahooveratrus: one thing you can try is to quit tomboy, go to applications->accessories->passwords & encryption keys and delete any desktop couch tokens you see there, then start up tomboy and try syncing again22:14
mgv2joshuahoover, i think now its working22:14
joshuahoovermgv2: after restarting the client?22:14
atrusjoshuahoover: that and clearing/re-connecting tomboy seemed to work.22:16
mgv2joshuahoover, i get this - http://yfrog.com/j352795251p22:17
atrusjoshuahoover: didn't work until i cleared the tomboy settings though.22:17
joshuahooveratrus: ok, that is good to know and i'm happy you're back up and running...i'll relay this info to the devs most familiar with the notes stuff22:18
joshuahoovermgv2: yes, this is good22:18
joshuahoovermgv2: so you add your computer to your ubuntu one account, then the client should connect22:18
atrusjoshuahoover: actually deleting the auth keys wasn't neccesary, just clearing and re-connecting. (had the same problem on another machine to test)22:19
joshuahooveratrus: ahhh...ok...good to know!22:19
atrusstill not clear what would have triggered it, i'll watch in case it comes up again.22:20
joshuahooveratrus: thanks! we're still tracking it down as it happened to someone on the team and we're still not sure why it's happening22:21
mgv2joshuahoover, i cant add it - i only get this http://yfrog.com/2m59265411p22:21
joshuahoovermgv2: you can't use the abe plugin with ubuntu one setup...you either need to allow ubuntu one to (essentially redirect to the localhost) or disable abe in firefox22:23
mgv2joshuahoover, what is abe? im using no script22:23
joshuahoovermgv2: sorry, noscript...i believe abe is the name of the vendor (maybe?)22:24
mgv2so i need to disable it first and then allow it after adding?22:24
joshuahoovermgv2: yes, though it may still give you problems on one.ubuntu.com but it all depends on the settings you have for noscript22:25
joshuahoovermgv2: oh, abe is a new feature of noscript...sorry...that appears to be what actually blocks this part of the ubuntu one setup process22:25
mgv2joshuahoover, i think now the cloud looks white - i allowed it to get access to passwords - is it fine?22:28
joshuahoovermgv2: yes :)22:28
joshuahoovermgv2: access your keyring?22:28
mgv2i disabled noscript and now the upload completed22:28
joshuahoovermgv2: great!22:28
mgv2joshuahoover, keyring i guess - yofi tofi - thank you - will it ask again if i enable no script?22:29
joshuahoovermgv2: nothing to do with noscript...are you setup to auto-login to ubuntu on your computer?22:30
mgv2joshuahoover, i dont know what is a-l to ubuntu22:30
joshuahoovermgv2: when you start your computer, do you login with a username and password?22:30
mgv2yes joshuahoover22:31
joshuahoovermgv2: ok, then you shouldn't get prompted for keyring access again22:31
mgv2joshuahoover, ok thanks22:32
joshuahoovermgv2: thank you for your patience and i'm happy you're up and running on ubuntu one now! :)22:32
mgv2joshuahoover, who finance u-1?22:33
joshuahoovermgv2: canonical, my employer and the company behind ubuntu and other open source projects :)22:33
mgv2i think that goverments need to give each citizen hosting space for blogs and simplify everything and that should cost little22:34
joshuahoovermgv2: if it's hosted on ubuntu, then sure! ;)22:35
mgv2the gove have to allow people to talk and tell what in their minds22:35
mgv2no- hosted by their own - u-1 is not for blogs anyway22:35
joshuahoovermgv2: i know, was just joking22:36
joshuahoovermgv2: though, for blogging, there are plenty of free services22:36
mgv2ok - i hope you have a nice comfort chair22:37
mgv2i think free services arent good and make people afraid of the whole thing - its very simbolizing if goverments will do thattttt22:37

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