[00:11] <psypher246> verterok: after quitting and going back in again the client is again set to 0kb shapeing
[00:12] <psypher246> andf won't connect
[00:34] <psypher246> ping verterok
[01:07] <aplund> My client is having trouble connecting and the logs say it is stuck in the state STANDOFF_WAITING_WITH_NETWORK_WITH_BOTHQ
[01:08] <aplund> what does this mean, and is there any clear fix?
[01:18] <aplund> if I restart the syncdaemon it gets stuck in the state START_WORKING_ON_METADATA_WITH_CONTQ
[01:19] <aplund> and it gets into that state on a Unlink call
[01:22] <aplund> http://pastebin.ca/1674255
[01:39] <Helsinkiii> hi
[01:39] <Helsinkiii> what happens if i put stuff in "shared with me"?
[01:46] <netbook> Helsinkiii I think that is reserved for material people share with you
[01:46] <Helsinkiii> how do i add "people"
[01:46] <netbook> email address
[01:46] <netbook> right click on something in Documents
[01:47] <netbook> there is an option to share with ubuntu one
[01:47] <netbook> not the most obvious mechanic
[01:47] <netbook> err looks like you can only share folders
[01:47] <netbook> what is you email lets try it
[01:48] <netbook> this is the email that you registered with ubuntu one
[01:50] <netbook> doh he left
[01:50] <netbook> i really want to try this out
[01:51] <aplund> as far as I can see your lucky to get anything to work at all
[01:51] <aplund> I keep getting these deadlocks
[01:51] <popey> works here :)
[01:52] <aplund> dat helps heaps
[01:52] <popey> well whats the specific issue?
[01:52] <aplund> see above?
[01:52] <aplund> I got no help
[01:53] <aplund> so I tried some drastic things
[01:53] <popey> such as?
[01:53] <netbook> using latest client aplund?
[01:53] <aplund> yup
[01:53] <aplund> well
[01:53] <aplund> holdon..
[01:53] <aplund> 1.0.2-0ubuntu2
[01:54] <aplund> is that the latest?
[01:54] <popey> its the latest in 9.10, yes
[01:54] <netbook> let me see
[01:54] <aplund> I destroyed the cache
[01:54] <aplund> and the local config
[01:54] <netbook> tried reinstalling it?
[01:54] <aplund> and the local files
[01:55] <aplund> then had another go
[01:55] <netbook> that probably lost the connection info
[01:55] <aplund> yeah
[01:55] <aplund> but there was clearly an issue with Unlinking it
[01:55] <aplund> to just stopped
[01:55] <netbook> i suggest going into synaptic package manager
[01:55] <netbook> and competely removing it
[01:55] <netbook> and reinstalling it
[01:56] <aplund> well
[01:56] <aplund> I'll let it resync
[01:56] <netbook> good luck
[01:56] <aplund> and see if the files have updated
[01:56] <aplund> then I'll call again when I get the issue again
[01:56] <aplund> (happens every day)
[01:57] <netbook> how much storage are you using?
[01:58] <netbook> btw login to the ubuntuone website
[01:58] <netbook> see what comps are authorized
[01:58] <aplund> 4mb
[01:58] <netbook> maybe try and reauthorise
[01:58] <aplund> yeah.. it's all good
[01:58] <aplund> done all that
[01:59] <netbook> i had to reauthorize my box after the first client was a bit borked
[01:59] <netbook> after install it generates some key
[01:59] <aplund> I never used it until 9.10 was released
[01:59] <netbook> me too
[01:59] <netbook> good luck
[01:59]  * popey has been using it since the first release
[01:59] <popey> well, beta
[01:59] <aplund> yeah.. if I can recreate then I'll be back
[02:00] <aplund> see if someone else can put some light onto the problem
[10:02] <tarragon> I am trying to get ubuntuone working under Kubuntu. The client installed but does not sync. When I right click and go to the web interface, I have to sign in which shows a file I have placed their, but this is not on my desktop share and anything else in the share in not in ubuntuone as no sync. Does ubuntuone work with Kubuntu. How do I make it sync? Am I missing a config file to say where my account is?
[14:07] <Helsinkiii> hi
[14:07] <Helsinkiii> how can i get ubunto one to stop loading when my pc boots
[14:08] <Helsinkiii> i use it on occasion
[15:01] <jblount> Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS
[15:01] <jblount> Hi! Not in Texas? Want to talk about what you're doing? "me" gets you in the queue!
[15:02] <jblount> me
[15:04] <jblount> DONE: Mountain of email, some robot pictures, etc
[15:04] <jblount> TODO: Get Robot live, work on some template weirdness with updown, BBQ because I'm not in Texas :)
[15:04] <jblount> BLOCKED: Done
[15:04] <jblount> EOM
[15:16] <statik> poor jblount
[15:16] <statik> faithfully reporting status
[15:16] <statik> i'm excited to see those robots though!
[15:18] <jblount> statik: :)
[15:21] <vds> jblount: robots? what kind of robots?
[15:23] <jblount> vds: Just drawings of robots for our error pages :)
[15:23] <vds> ah cool
[15:36] <urbanape> me
[15:36] <urbanape> DONE: Submitted a lazr-js branch in prep for a new ubuntuone-servers branch, got my PPA working and pushed a Bindwood experimental package there, UDSing.
[15:36] <urbanape> TODO: Finish the ubuntuone-servers branch (will likely need some CSS work done by jblount), keep on UDSing.
[15:36] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:37] <CardinalFang> thisfred, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/changes-notifications-to-clients/+merge/14954
[15:37] <CardinalFang> No hurry.
[15:37] <thisfred> ohai!
[15:37] <thisfred> cool
[15:38] <CardinalFang> offline a bit.
[15:42] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I like this idea!
[15:43] <thisfred> It feels very much in line with how _changes itself works
[15:50] <Technoviking> Does contac syncing work now?
[15:50] <jblount> Technoviking: "Sources say yes"
[15:51] <jblount> Technoviking: + if you are at UDS you can have rodrigo take a look for you :)
[15:51] <Technoviking> jblount: will find him
[15:52] <CardinalFang> re
[15:55] <urbanape> CardinalFang: I guess you can disregard my comment.
[15:56] <CardinalFang> Oh?
[15:56] <CardinalFang> I was just going to look for it.
[15:59] <urbanape> I don't think it does what you were looking for (or at least what's in your branch)
[16:00] <urbanape> I think I misinterpreted what you needed.
[16:00] <urbanape> maybe?
[16:06] <thisfred> CardinalFang: ah I misunderstood the branch description: I thought you'd just chosed to have something like a changes(since=0) method that API consumers could call, that minimally abstracts over the http call. But that would burden client apps with keeping state and knowing about revision numbers.
[16:07] <thisfred> chosed
[16:07] <thisfred> really
[16:07] <thisfred> I blame early onset senility
[16:07] <thisfred> that or too much lolcats
[16:10] <CardinalFang> thisfred, You has a Alzhaimers!
[16:12] <urbanape> thisfred, CardinalFang: That's what I assumed, too, and why I pointed out the javascript lib.
[16:12] <CardinalFang> Sorry.  I mislead.
[16:12] <urbanape> and yes, Bindwood has to keep track of its last know sequence number
[16:12] <urbanape> no worries
[16:13] <urbanape> if this is something that closes over it, that would be keen
[16:17] <jonasbb> Where can i see, which user i had allowed to see my files.
[16:19] <urbanape> in Nautilus or in the web?
[16:19] <urbanape> in the web, you can choose the folder in the left-hand pane, and click the "Sharing" button above the file list.
[16:20] <jonasbb> thx
[16:22] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I'm sort of confused: we register a callback function *and* we call the function that calls the callback from our own client mainloop, correct? If that is true, why not just have a get_changes() method that the app can call from its mainloop? The callback seems overly complicated
[16:25] <CardinalFang> thisfred, This could return what has changed.  Then people with their mainloops would have to write a function that runs us, and operates on our return value.  They'd then register that new function with their main loop.
[16:26] <tarragon> I am trying to sync under Kubuntu. It just hangs. Where do I need to enter account details?
[16:26] <CardinalFang> thisfred, Instead, I decided that the user should write a function that takes single changes, and register us with their mainloop, with their function as a parameter.  If there's nothing to do, then nothing is called that they write.
[16:28] <thisfred> CardinalFang: so the main difference is the function they have to write (dealing with a single change vs. a list of changes) ? I think having to think about callbacks more or less voids that advantage
[16:28] <thisfred> but then they already have to think about mainloops and such, so maybe not
[16:30] <CardinalFang> thisfred, the main difference is that I wrote the condition/looping code that everyone would write.  I think it's better to say "you, write a function that should be run for every change, and then register that as a parameter to F .
[16:31] <thisfred> http://friendpaste.com/6oJg14kfXi8HhSJNgsyE82
[16:32] <thisfred> and get_changes could be report_changes minus the callback?
[16:33] <thisfred> to me it seems one layer less complicated
[16:34] <thisfred> but I may still be missing the reason it needs that layer
[16:34] <CardinalFang> thisfred, Hrm, okay.  I agree.
[16:38] <thisfred> teknico_: do you know the answer to tarragon's question?
[16:39] <teknico_> thisfred, reading
[16:40]  * thisfred will pay attention to be able to answer himself next time
[16:40] <teknico_> tarragon, make sure you have gnome-keyring installed
[16:41] <teknico_> tarragon, when starting, ubuntuone-client-applet should ask for the password to the gnome keyring
[16:41] <teknico_> it does not yet use kwallet  under kde
[16:42] <teknico_> (I'm not sure that's your problem, just a shot in the dark :-) )
[16:48] <tarragon> Yes I think that will possibly be the solution. Under .gnome there is no keyring directory. Should the package not install this as a dependency?
[16:53] <teknico_> tarragon, yes, it should. since this client is usually installed under gnome, some packages' presence is assumed :-)
[16:53] <teknico_> tarragon, will please submit a bug about that?
[16:54] <teknico_> will *you
[16:54] <teknico_> here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+filebug
[16:56] <tarragon> I will try to submit this as a bug request, sure
[17:01] <Chipaca> tarragon: network manager is in the same situation of being needed but not listed in the dependencies
[17:02] <tarragon> It works!! I had both python-gnomekeyring and libgnome-keyring0. Adding in gnome-keyring and starting the ubuntu-one-client-gnome then asked for my details, let me add in the machine and synced.  :-)
[17:03] <urbanape> excellent
[17:11] <thisfred> thanks teknico_ : I know what to suggest next time :)
[17:12] <teknico_> thisfred, well, at least it's worth trying :-)
[17:12] <tarragon> Bug already listed as #473518. Funnily enough I could not add myself as also effected as the KDE default browser hangs after opening the add me box. Firefox worked fine.
[17:19] <doctormo> Hey rmcbride
[17:21] <rmcbride> Hi doctormo
[17:21] <doctormo> rmcbride: How is you?
[17:21] <rmcbride> I'm doing pretty good, you?
[17:22] <CardinalFang> thisfred, I added a function that returns the changes directly.
[17:22] <Chipaca_> rmcbride: that's not doctormo, it's an impostor
[17:22] <Chipaca_> rmcbride: he has no hat!
[17:22] <thisfred> CardinalFang: awesome, pulling & reviewing
[17:22] <Chipaca_> or maybe irc doesn't let him be doctormô
[17:23] <Chipaca_> :-p
[17:23]  * Chipaca_ only makes fun of doctormo's hat because doctormo is sitting across the way, at punching distance
[17:23] <rmcbride> Chipaca_:  heh
[17:27] <rmcbride> doctormo: so I guess you're at UDS then. I didn't get to go this time around.
[17:27] <doctormo> Chipaca_: Er, Aye yes yes
[17:28] <doctormo> rmcbride: Who's got a hat, I Have!
[17:28] <Chipaca_> ooh, look, it's doctormo!
[17:28] <rmcbride> doctormo: hehe
[17:28] <DoctorEmOw> rmcbride: Seem any good shows to watch?
[17:28] <DoctorEmOw> seen*
[17:29] <DoctorEmOw> Because it's a really good test of UbuntuOne
[17:29] <rmcbride> DoctorEmOw: V has started out quite nice. I haven't seen the Prisoner remake yet, but I'm a little skeptical about that one
[17:29] <Chipaca_> hm... I could create a share with all the TED
[17:29] <thisfred> CardinalFang: did you push?
[17:29] <DoctorEmOw> Chipaca_: I have all the TED
[17:30] <Chipaca_> DoctorEmOw: I hate you!
[17:30] <Chipaca_> now I've got to find space and leech them off of you
[17:30] <CardinalFang> thisfred, no.  Sorry.  Wonky net.
[17:30] <CardinalFang> thisfred, done.
[17:30] <Chipaca_> oh where, oh where could I *possibly* find a 1.5TB hard drive for 99$ in this town?
[17:31] <rmcbride> Texas should have Fry's, I think, Chipaca_
[17:31] <thisfred> rmcbride: the prisoner was better than I feared
[17:31] <thisfred> rmcbride: but then I'm not that familiar with the original
[17:31] <thisfred> rmcbride: at least it beat the pants of the V remake
[17:32] <rmcbride> thisfred: I've watched the original dozens of times. I'm afraid the only way the remake could have been close would be if they had cast Hugh Laurie as Number 6. House's attitude and Laurie's real accent
[17:32] <thisfred> hehe
[17:32] <rmcbride> but I'll catch it when they re run the first episode I hope
[17:32] <rmcbride> missed it on Sunday
[17:32] <thisfred> rmcbride: I probably asked you this before, but did you ever see A Bit of Fry & Laurie?
[17:33] <rmcbride> thisfred: No. I think I've heard references but haven't seen it
[17:33] <Chipaca_> DoctorEmOw: http://code.google.com/p/cdpedia/
[17:33] <urbanape> thisfred: wonderful stuff
[17:33] <thisfred> rmcbride: it's Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie in a short sketch type comedy show. Still one of my favorites
[17:34] <urbanape> amazing stuff.
[17:34] <rmcbride> thisfred: that sounds awesome. I'll have to track it down
[17:34] <thisfred> urbanape: yeah, I even bought the scripts
[17:34] <Chipaca_> DoctorEmOw: you might need google translate to read the readme, but then it just works
[17:34] <thisfred> although I think I may have given them away when I moved
[17:35] <Chipaca_> DoctorEmOw: it's basically download the dump, point the 'generate' script at it, wait a long time while it crunches (takes about a day for the spanish wikipedia), and it spits out the cd or the dvd
[17:35] <Chipaca_> DoctorEmOw: most of the heavy work only needs doing once, as it stores the preprocessed files
[17:36] <Chipaca_> DoctorEmOw: however, you need ~50GB for the spanish wikipedia; the english one is probably 10x that :(
[17:36] <doctormo> Chipaca_: thanks!
[17:41] <CardinalFang> thisfred, Small additional patch.
[17:42] <thisfred> CardinalFang: cool, remerging
[18:00] <mgv2> why dont i able to use the webbrowser panel? i dont see anything
[18:00] <mgv2> there is a no script windows that opens
[18:24] <thisfred> CardinalFang: approved
[18:25] <CardinalFang> thisfred, thank you, sir.
[18:25] <thisfred> CardinalFang: that is, my +1 added, needs second review. If you can pry the gun from aq's hands, you might get him to do a second one ;)
[18:25] <CardinalFang> Rgr.
[19:32] <rtagger> syncdaemon.log: Failure: twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost. Is the "other side" the u1 server?
[19:42] <facundobatista> rtagger, yeap
[21:30] <mgv2> how can i access u1?
[21:31] <joshuahoover> mgv2: are you using ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10?
[21:32] <mgv2> ok iveg got it  - before i had a problem with no script
[21:32] <mgv2> now ive another problem
[21:32] <joshuahoover> mgv2: what problem are you running into now?
[21:32] <mgv2> in ubuntu ive backuped 2 files but at the web they miss
[21:45] <joshuahoover> mgv2: so you've put the files in your ~/Ubuntu One folder and they're not showing on the web?
[21:58] <mgv2> joshuahoover, yes
[21:58] <joshuahoover> mgv2: ok, and is the client showing it's connected or not showing at all?
[21:58] <mgv2> not connected
[21:59] <mgv2> joshuahoover,
[22:00] <joshuahoover> mgv2: ok, can you please look at ~/.cache/ubuntuone/oauth-login.log and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ then post the url here?
[22:01] <joshuahoover> mgv2: also, please post ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon-exceptions.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ if it has anything in it
[22:05] <mgv2> joshuahoover, i cant find the cache folder
[22:05] <atrus> i seem to be unable to sync my tomboy notes anymore. tomboy complains about a 404 error. this a known issue at all?
[22:06] <joshuahoover> mgv2: it will be hidden in nautilus by default...if you press ctrl-h in your home folder you should be able to get to ~/.cache
[22:07] <atrus> it definitely worked a few days ago...
[22:07] <joshuahoover> atrus: we've seen this...not sure what the cause is...can you run the following from a command line and paste the result to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ & then post the link here: sudo apt-cache policy tomboy
[22:08] <atrus> joshuahoover: only 1.0.0-0ubuntu2 from karmic/main
[22:08] <joshuahoover> atrus: ok...hmmm...
[22:09] <mgv2> joshuahoover, http://paste.ubuntu.com/321107/
[22:10] <mgv2> joshuahoover, i want to mention two things - im running encrypted hd - im using the hebrew sys
[22:10] <joshuahoover> mgv2: ok, that's good to know
[22:10] <joshuahoover> mgv2: anything in the ~/.cache/ubuntuone/oauth-login.log?
[22:10] <atrus> joshuahoover: https://one.ubuntu.com/notes/ , which is what tomboy is configured to use, works fine in a browser.
[22:10] <mgv2> joshuahoover, yes - at line 1
[22:11] <joshuahoover> mgv2: ok, i see it :)
[22:13] <joshuahoover> mgv2: if you quit the ubuntu one client and start it back up, can you tell me if that connects or if you see the same errors in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[22:14] <joshuahoover> atrus: one thing you can try is to quit tomboy, go to applications->accessories->passwords & encryption keys and delete any desktop couch tokens you see there, then start up tomboy and try syncing again
[22:14] <mgv2> joshuahoover, i think now its working
[22:14] <joshuahoover> mgv2: after restarting the client?
[22:16] <atrus> joshuahoover: that and clearing/re-connecting tomboy seemed to work.
[22:17] <mgv2> joshuahoover, i get this - http://yfrog.com/j352795251p
[22:17] <atrus> joshuahoover: didn't work until i cleared the tomboy settings though.
[22:18] <joshuahoover> atrus: ok, that is good to know and i'm happy you're back up and running...i'll relay this info to the devs most familiar with the notes stuff
[22:18] <joshuahoover> mgv2: yes, this is good
[22:18] <joshuahoover> mgv2: so you add your computer to your ubuntu one account, then the client should connect
[22:19] <atrus> joshuahoover: actually deleting the auth keys wasn't neccesary, just clearing and re-connecting. (had the same problem on another machine to test)
[22:19] <joshuahoover> atrus: ahhh...ok...good to know!
[22:20] <atrus> still not clear what would have triggered it, i'll watch in case it comes up again.
[22:21] <joshuahoover> atrus: thanks! we're still tracking it down as it happened to someone on the team and we're still not sure why it's happening
[22:21] <mgv2> joshuahoover, i cant add it - i only get this http://yfrog.com/2m59265411p
[22:23] <joshuahoover> mgv2: you can't use the abe plugin with ubuntu one setup...you either need to allow ubuntu one to (essentially redirect to the localhost) or disable abe in firefox
[22:23] <mgv2> joshuahoover, what is abe? im using no script
[22:24] <joshuahoover> mgv2: sorry, noscript...i believe abe is the name of the vendor (maybe?)
[22:24] <mgv2> so i need to disable it first and then allow it after adding?
[22:25] <joshuahoover> mgv2: yes, though it may still give you problems on one.ubuntu.com but it all depends on the settings you have for noscript
[22:25] <joshuahoover> mgv2: oh, abe is a new feature of noscript...sorry...that appears to be what actually blocks this part of the ubuntu one setup process
[22:28] <mgv2> joshuahoover, i think now the cloud looks white - i allowed it to get access to passwords - is it fine?
[22:28] <joshuahoover> mgv2: yes :)
[22:28] <joshuahoover> mgv2: access your keyring?
[22:28] <mgv2> i disabled noscript and now the upload completed
[22:28] <joshuahoover> mgv2: great!
[22:29] <mgv2> joshuahoover, keyring i guess - yofi tofi - thank you - will it ask again if i enable no script?
[22:30] <joshuahoover> mgv2: nothing to do with noscript...are you setup to auto-login to ubuntu on your computer?
[22:30] <mgv2> joshuahoover, i dont know what is a-l to ubuntu
[22:30] <joshuahoover> mgv2: when you start your computer, do you login with a username and password?
[22:31] <mgv2> yes joshuahoover
[22:31] <joshuahoover> mgv2: ok, then you shouldn't get prompted for keyring access again
[22:32] <mgv2> joshuahoover, ok thanks
[22:32] <joshuahoover> mgv2: thank you for your patience and i'm happy you're up and running on ubuntu one now! :)
[22:33] <mgv2> joshuahoover, who finance u-1?
[22:33] <joshuahoover> mgv2: canonical, my employer and the company behind ubuntu and other open source projects :)
[22:34] <mgv2> i think that goverments need to give each citizen hosting space for blogs and simplify everything and that should cost little
[22:35] <joshuahoover> mgv2: if it's hosted on ubuntu, then sure! ;)
[22:35] <mgv2> the gove have to allow people to talk and tell what in their minds
[22:35] <mgv2> no- hosted by their own - u-1 is not for blogs anyway
[22:36] <joshuahoover> mgv2: i know, was just joking
[22:36] <joshuahoover> mgv2: though, for blogging, there are plenty of free services
[22:37] <mgv2> ok - i hope you have a nice comfort chair
[22:37] <mgv2> i think free services arent good and make people afraid of the whole thing - its very simbolizing if goverments will do thattttt