| Riddell | ryanakca: we're done | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | I'll write that up into a spec and get you and whoever to review it | 00:04 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Thanks | 00:05 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| maco | neversfelde: if it werent for the fact that the local mirror keeps dropping, id just upgrade and test it | 00:23 |
| Riddell | dinner anyone? | 00:24 |
| Riddell | rgreening shtylman__ ? | 00:24 |
| Riddell | jussi01? | 00:25 |
| Riddell | I seem to mind maco is being all sexist and not wanting boys today :) | 00:26 |
| maco | what what? | 00:26 |
| maco | no james_w, dholbach, jono, and mdz are coming with us :P | 00:26 |
| maco | theyre boys! or men...or something... | 00:26 |
| neversfelde | maco: would you have a look at the long description, I am afraid that it isn't very good, but I am not a native speaker, so I am not sure? | 00:26 |
| maco | kk | 00:27 |
| neversfelde | thanks | 00:27 |
| maco | this may be a very large value of "one hour" due to dinner ;) | 00:27 |
| Riddell | maco: oh I see, you want to go and take all your own boys with you | 00:28 |
| maco | right, only cute one allowed | 00:28 |
| * maco looks back at that list | 00:28 | |
| nixternal | ouch | 00:28 |
| maco | how'd jono get on the list? | 00:28 |
| nixternal | maco: I was gonna say, you better review that list | 00:28 |
| nixternal | dholbach has way to much hair and smokes cigarettes like it is a joint :) | 00:28 |
| nixternal | last time I saw mdz he needed a haircut too...damn hippies! | 00:29 |
| nixternal | I can never say anything bad about mr. westby though | 00:29 |
| maco | nixternal: he has less hair than this guy, whom i think is rather pretty http://media.photobucket.com/image/davey%20havok/dark_juliet_picture_show/Davey%20Havok/davey_havok.jpg | 00:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | nixternal: You awake or, are you up? | 04:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | Or, did I miss you a second night in a row? :P | 04:09 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: ping | 04:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse-netbook: ping | 04:27 |
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| Lure | anybody working on qt 4.6rc packages? | 08:44 |
| * Lure plans to build kde form svn, but would like to avoid qt from git ;-) | 08:44 | |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| * Lure found qt 4.6rc1 in kubuntu-ppa/experimental - thanks lex79 | 09:46 | |
| Tonio_ | rgryeah ? | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | oups | 09:52 |
| jwisser | 6u4rd14n | 11:01 |
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| === jefferai is now known as jefferai_gone | ||
| === jefferai is now known as jefferai_gone | ||
| markey | heya | 13:24 |
| markey | just a note: | 13:24 |
| markey | after rebooting (or restarting KDE), sometimes my keyboard doesn't work | 13:24 |
| markey | pluggin it out, then in again, fixes it | 13:24 |
| markey | I guess this could confuse newbies a lot | 13:25 |
| Tm_T | and dmesg has any info? | 13:25 |
| markey | lemme check, sec | 13:25 |
| markey | what should I look for in there? | 13:26 |
| Tm_T | markey: and it's ok you to admit you were confused (; | 13:26 |
| Tm_T | markey: if there's any related activity | 13:26 |
| markey | well I can fix this easily, a newbie maybe wouldn't be able to do that | 13:26 |
| markey | tell me something to grep for, the list is long :) | 13:26 |
| Tm_T | markey: it's usb keyboard? | 13:26 |
| markey | yes | 13:27 |
| Tm_T | see if possibly usb device gets dropped | 13:27 |
| markey | mark@hyperion:~/Videos$ dmesg | grep Keyboard | 13:27 |
| markey | [ 85.629339] input: DELL DELL USB Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.0/usb2/2-5/2-5:1.0/input/input4 | 13:27 |
| markey | [ 85.629399] generic-usb 0003:413C:2005.0002: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [DELL DELL USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-5/input0 | 13:27 |
| markey | [ 132.909334] input: DELL DELL USB Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.0/usb2/2-5/2-5:1.0/input/input5 | 13:28 |
| markey | [ 132.909395] generic-usb 0003:413C:2005.0004: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [DELL DELL USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-5/input0 | 13:28 |
| markey | anything else? | 13:28 |
| Tm_T | markey: hmh, hard to say, prolly needs some context, try grep -B 4 -A 4 -i usb | 13:29 |
| Tm_T | or something | 13:29 |
| markey | k | 13:29 |
| Tm_T | who knows if it's just wonky usb | 13:30 |
| Tm_T | that's what I got here | 13:30 |
| * tsimpson points at grep's -C option | 13:30 | |
| markey | http://pastebin.com/m1e2b69ec | 13:30 |
| Tm_T | one too many usb devices connected -> all gone | 13:30 |
| Tm_T | tsimpson: heh, I never learnt to use that | 13:30 |
| tsimpson | -C 4 is the same as "-B 4 -A 4" | 13:31 |
| markey | there is no shame in not knowing every obscure grep option ;) | 13:31 |
| markey | I use ack-grep these days mostly | 13:31 |
| markey | (for code) | 13:31 |
| markey | grep is obscure | 13:31 |
| markey | (but that's another topic) | 13:31 |
| markey | Tm_T: and ideas? | 13:45 |
| Tm_T | no, sorry, I suspect udev or usb issues | 13:46 |
| markey | hum | 13:57 |
| somekool | ScottK: i was mentionning you about subversion+kwallet. here is my compile output http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1676397 ( i used apt-build to download the source, but could not add the --with-kwallet, so I ctrl-C and compiled by hand.) | 13:58 |
| === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal | ||
| nixternal | DarkwingDuck: I was asleep :) | 14:03 |
| jjesse | morning | 14:03 |
| nixternal | morning | 14:06 |
| === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| Quintasan | Riddell: I will be filling SRU on LP shortly, anything apart from debdiff's should be included? | 14:19 |
| nixternal | only one Kubuntu track today...you guys should be able to finish all of the work planned on Monday and Tuesday then today :) | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | nixternal: \o | 14:44 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: SRUs also need a test case for how to confirm that what was broken is now fixed | 14:46 |
| Riddell | nixternal: spec writing day! | 14:46 |
| jtechidna | which Kubuntu track is today? I think I missed it when scanning the schedule | 14:47 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: ayatana, last session | 14:48 |
| jtechidna | thanks | 14:50 |
| nixternal | I will be afk pretty much the whole day...I am heading down to my brothers to get my brakes fixed on my car | 14:51 |
| Mamarok | are there Amarok 2.2.1 packages for Jaunty? Got a bug report with that... | 14:54 |
| Mamarok | with a crash I can't make heads nor tails | 14:55 |
| Mamarok | as if a wrong translation somewhere caused the crash | 14:56 |
| Mamarok | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215122 | 14:56 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 215122 in general "Crash, exploded when i was doing dont remember" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/484802 | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 484802 in ubuntu "SRU: Parley fails to initialize Python scripts" [Undecided,New] | 14:56 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: I'm pretty sure we don't have any 2.2.1 packages for jaunty | 15:02 |
| Riddell | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages 2.1 for jaunty, 2.2.1 for karmic | 15:04 |
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| Mamarok | Riddell: that's what I thought indeed :) | 15:08 |
| Mamarok | thanks for the confirmation :) | 15:08 |
| mcas | hi | 15:11 |
| mcas | anyone here who can edit kubuntu.org? | 15:11 |
| mcas | on http://www.kubuntu.org/support | 15:11 |
| mcas | s/Reborting Bugs/Reporting Bugs/ | 15:12 |
| Riddell | mcas: I can | 15:13 |
| mcas | k | 15:13 |
| Riddell | fixed, thanks mcas | 15:13 |
| mcas | Riddell: np | 15:14 |
| ScottK | somekool: Thanks. I'll try and take a look at it, but I'm at the Ubuntu Developer summit and don't have a lot of mental bandwidth this week. | 15:21 |
| somekool | ScottK: i hear ya | 15:26 |
| apachelogger_ | embedding python in c is quite ugly :| | 15:35 |
| jbicha | Lucid will likely ship with KDE 4.4, right? | 15:38 |
| apachelogger_ | jtechidna: TBH, I find it uberweird to have the notifier query for new release itself :S | 15:42 |
| * apachelogger_ is wondering how the gnome does it | 15:42 | |
| apachelogger_ | jbicha: yes | 15:42 |
| jbicha | cool, thanks | 15:42 |
| apachelogger_ | jtechidna: knh could execute /usr/share/pyshared/UpdateManager/check-meta-release.py parse it's output and do stuff | 15:45 |
| francisco_t | Is the ppa "firefox kde integration" from kubuntu-dev? | 15:48 |
| jtechidna | that would be much better than writing our own dist-upgrade checker fetcher | 15:48 |
| jtechidna | francisco_t: technically no, though the maintainer has made contributions to Kubuntu | 15:48 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| apachelogger_ | JontheEchidna: the thing is, either way it eats CPU cycles even though it does not need to, since kpk already does that for update checking too, doesnt it? | 15:50 |
| JontheEchidna | dist-upgrade checking? as far as I know the apt packagekit backend can't do that | 15:51 |
| francisco_t | ok | 15:51 |
| apachelogger_ | JontheEchidna: well, it should :P | 16:08 |
| glatzor | JontheEchidna, the apt backend reuses the upgrade checker which is used by update-manager | 16:08 |
| glatzor | JontheEchidna, if it doesn't work feel free to fill a bug | 16:08 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: so it would notify about distribution updates? | 16:09 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, it supports the GetDistroUpgrades method PackageKit | 16:10 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, it is up to the client tool to call this | 16:10 |
| apachelogger_ | oh | 16:10 |
| * apachelogger_ is wondering if kpk can do that yet | 16:10 | |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, I don't know. | 16:11 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: thanks for that information, saves me from reinventing the wheel :) | 16:11 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, you are at uds? | 16:11 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: nope | 16:11 |
| * apachelogger_ is too busy to go to uds :P | 16:12 | |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| apachelogger_ | sweet | 16:18 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: kpk implements getdistroupgrades :) | 16:18 |
| apachelogger_ | JontheEchidna: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot053.png | 16:18 |
| apachelogger_ | goes for the gtk UI though | 16:20 |
| apachelogger_ | might only be because I got that installed as well | 16:20 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, I don't know how to check if the upgrade script was started from KDE | 16:22 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: check for env KDE_FULL_SESSION | 16:23 |
| apachelogger_ | should be sufficient enough to hold on to IMHO, apturl also uses that to find out what UI to start | 16:24 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, you want to provide a patch? The script is located in data/pk-upgrade-script.sh in the PackageKit git repository | 16:24 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: can look at it certainly :) | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | sweet | 16:24 |
| glatzor | Thanks apachelogger_ it is simple bash script | 16:24 |
| apachelogger_ | JontheEchidna: please nuke that bit of the knh todo :P | 16:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I would if X would start, but it won't because / is for some reason being mounted as read-only | 16:34 |
| JontheEchidna | so I'm on windows :( | 16:34 |
| apachelogger_ | hum | 16:34 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: is it intent behaviour that the script gets launched with somewhat cleaned env vars? | 16:35 |
| apachelogger_ | JontheEchidna: cool :D | 16:35 |
| JontheEchidna | as if to mock me, rekonq 0.3.0 was released right after I got borked :( | 16:35 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, I havn't got any idea | 16:36 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, kpackagekit cleans up the env? | 16:36 |
| apachelogger_ | maybe | 16:36 |
| apachelogger_ | well, its not even clean completely | 16:37 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, you would have to talk with dantti | 16:37 |
| apachelogger_ | just everything that get set in kde's startup script is left out | 16:37 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: ok :) | 16:37 |
| glatzor | apachelogger_, sorry, but I am not familiar very well with kpackagekit and KDE at all :) | 16:37 |
| apachelogger_ | understandibly | 16:37 |
| JontheEchidna | Any idea how we'll handle update quirks? | 16:38 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: do you have an env var DESKTOP_SESSION? | 16:38 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: don't waste too much time on grumpy people | 16:38 |
| * apachelogger_ is not sure if that is set by kdm or our X scripties | 16:38 | |
| Riddell | Mamarok: although your patience is very admirable | 16:38 |
| apachelogger_ | JontheEchidna: update quirks? | 16:38 |
| apachelogger_ | JontheEchidna: like broken X due to readonly /? :P | 16:38 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, update-manager has support for update quirk scripts | 16:38 |
| apachelogger_ | no clue what that is really :) | 16:39 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, lemme find an example | 16:39 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: ping | 16:39 |
| apachelogger_ | glatzor: I could use DESKTOP_SESSION, but I am not sure that is 100% accurate | 16:39 |
| apachelogger_ | KDE_FULL_SESSION would defenitely be better | 16:39 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: pong | 16:40 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger_: search for quirks here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+changelog | 16:40 |
| JontheEchidna | basically scripts to work around potential problems | 16:40 |
| Riddell | you can't depend on DESKTOP_SESSION at all | 16:40 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: does kpk clear the env vars when launching a dist-upgrade? | 16:41 |
| apachelogger_ | or do some other weird magic that prevents KDE env vars from appearing | 16:41 |
| maco | Riddell: we have a spec for a photo? | 16:41 |
| apachelogger_ | Riddell: how so? | 16:41 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: what's the use case? i mean do you install a package that needs some env vars? | 16:42 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: distribution upgrade, not regular package upgrade | 16:42 |
| Riddell | maco: it's the most important one. location: rooftop hot tub | 16:42 |
| maco | Riddell: NO | 16:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger_: because it's just set by the name of /usr/share/xsession/foo.desktop file | 16:43 |
| apachelogger_ | Riddell: I only need to check if it is kde | 16:43 |
| bbigras | debfx: ping | 16:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger_: then use KDE_FULL_SESSION=true | 16:43 |
| maco | 1) i didnt bring my swimsuit 2) im not wearing a swimsuit around all you men 3) no pictures of me in swimsuit on the internet | 16:43 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: hmm what's a distribution upgrade? how do you see the difference? | 16:43 |
| apachelogger_ | Riddell: can't because it is lost somewhere in the invocation process | 16:43 |
| Riddell | maco: oh ok, we'll just do it from the balcony on the roof | 16:43 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: for distribution upgrades a script gets executed which then tries to figure out what tool to launch for the present distribition | 16:44 |
| maco | i call dibs on standing nowhere near the railing | 16:44 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: ah, k, .. :P | 16:44 |
| maco | (im afraid of heights) | 16:45 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: problem is... the only reliable thing to do on ubuntu vs. kubuntu is to check the KDE_FULL_SESSION env var, which for some reason, is not visible to the upgrade script | 16:45 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: i think you are talking about things like apt-get dist-upgrade | 16:45 |
| * apachelogger_ is talking about upgrading from Kubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 | 16:45 | |
| apachelogger_ | i.e. from one distro version to another | 16:45 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: ok, but in *buntu world i guess there is more than just apt-get dist-upgrade right? | 16:46 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: do-release-upgrade | 16:47 |
| apachelogger_ | which is invoked by the pk-upgrade-distro.sh script from packagekit | 16:47 |
| apachelogger_ | hence my approach was to enhance said script to launch do-release-upgrade with the appropriate arguments for KDE | 16:47 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: ok, well if it was packagekit then the DBus activation cleans all env vars before calling it, but in kpackagekit case this shouldn't happen.. | 16:47 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: thank you :) | 16:48 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: maybe kunique application does something like that.. | 16:48 |
| apachelogger_ | oh | 16:49 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: hmm probably the smartIcon showed you the distro upgrade and it is DBus activatable.. | 16:49 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: it appears that it is working when launching the upgrade from within kpk itself | 16:49 |
| dantti | thus we have a problem.. | 16:49 |
| apachelogger_ | but not when clicking the ugprade button in the notification | 16:49 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: sure, but smart icon is called by dBus.. | 16:50 |
| dantti | if you call that app by hand it would work.. | 16:50 |
| apachelogger_ | I see | 16:50 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: anything we can do? | 16:50 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: I'll talk with richard about what he thinks about calling these scripts with --desktop=kde | 16:51 |
| apachelogger_ | ok, thanks | 16:51 |
| Mamarok | I volunteered for that list and will not abandon that fast, although it's sometimes hard | 16:51 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: would that be ok for you? | 16:53 |
| apachelogger_ | dantti: I am fine with anything as long as there is some sensible way to find out from within the script whether to launch a KDE UI or not :) | 16:56 |
| dantti | apachelogger_: maybe a DESKTOP env var would be better to not break other scripts.. | 16:57 |
| JontheEchidna | yay, I fixed my linux | 17:06 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidDevelopment mostly done | 17:19 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: nice work | 17:19 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: does that mean you will install chromium soon? | 17:21 |
| shtylman_ | why do I want to print to a network printer? | 17:22 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: plenty more specs yet | 17:23 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: I thought we needed to fix in 476px not 5 | 17:23 |
| shtylman_ | cause we fit in 576 as it is right now...I thinks | 17:24 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: that was a question, gobby doc says "576 pixels high -- needs to fit in 480" | 17:24 |
| ScottK | shtylman_: That's the only kind of printer I own | 17:24 |
| Riddell | I thought the discussion said we fit in 600 but needed 576 for eeepc | 17:24 |
| ScottK | Riddell: That's correct. In Karmic we support 576, but we want 480 | 17:24 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ok I'll fix that | 17:25 |
| ScottK | Riddell: BTW, if I misrepresent any KDE stuff in the session, please correct me. | 17:25 |
| Riddell | ScottK: will you do the spec for LucidNetbookPackaging or shall I? | 17:29 |
| ScottK | I'll do it. | 17:29 |
| Sput | ScottK: just a heads up, current Quassel fails with Qt 4.6-rc1, I'll get a patch out today, I hope | 17:33 |
| Sput | and probably roll a 0.5.1 release too | 17:34 |
| Sput | so if you plan packaging 4.6-rc1, you guys should upload an updated Quassel package as well | 17:34 |
| ScottK | Sput: If you put it git head, I need to push to gettext version anyway | 17:34 |
| Sput | ScottK: it'll be backported | 17:34 |
| Sput | ah, karmic isn't gonna get Qt 4.6, I guess? | 17:35 |
| ScottK | Nope | 17:35 |
| Sput | ok | 17:35 |
| ScottK | It'll be in a PPA, but PPA users get what they get | 17:35 |
| ScottK | We can update Quassel in the same PPA if needed. | 17:35 |
| Sput | well, it'll be in both git head and 0.5.1, so shouldn't be a problem | 17:35 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 17:36 |
| ScottK | Sput: If you roll 0.5.1 soon, maybe I'll put that in Lucid first and backport it first before I push to a git snapshot. | 17:36 |
| Sput | ScottK: probably today or tomorrow | 17:36 |
| ScottK | Excellent | 17:36 |
| shtylman_ | how come not 4.6 for karmic? | 17:37 |
| ScottK | Backporting Qt 4.4 to Hardy was really, really bad. | 17:37 |
| ScottK | I don't care to repeat the experience. | 17:37 |
| ScottK | Core KDE stuff was ~OK, but all the non-KDE stuff that uses Qt is way to much to test | 17:38 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Is Knetworkmanager in 4.4 using the new systray stuff? | 17:38 |
| Riddell | ScottK: knetworkmanager in karmic is | 17:40 |
| Riddell | "in 4.4" isn't meaningful, knm isn't part of KDE mainline | 17:40 |
| Sput | ScottK: well, between 4.3 and 4.4 there were some significant changes... we didn't experience nearly as much breakage with 4.4 -> 4.5, and 4.5 -> 4.6 was seamless here | 17:40 |
| Sput | but yeah | 17:40 |
| Sput | probably a really not-wanted burden of maintenance :) | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Is there a way to find out what packages depend on a specific version of a library? | 17:41 |
| Riddell | qt 4.6 rc isn't binary compatible with qt 4.6 beta, so a load of stuff in lucid will need to be recompiled | 17:42 |
| JontheEchidna | KDE stuff built in lucid after Qt 4.6 beta1 and before 4.6 RC1 will need rebuilds for ABI change | 17:42 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: lucid-changes mailing list I suspect is the best way | 17:42 |
| Sput | Riddell: yeah, anything Qt based... I went through that last night :) | 17:42 |
| Sput | 320 packages | 17:43 |
| Sput | on my box :/ | 17:43 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: You mean like apt-cache rdepends libclamav6 | 17:43 |
| JontheEchidna | something more like: apt-cache rdepends libqt4-core 4:4.6~beta1 | 17:43 |
| shtylman_ | but don't we want the benefits of 4.6? | 17:44 |
| shtylman_ | ScottK: you would have to port 4.6 to hardy? why? | 17:45 |
| ScottK | shtylman_: No, I'm saying the last time we tried backporting a major Qt version it went very badly. | 17:46 |
| ScottK | And if you look at the backports rules it really doesn't qualify | 17:46 |
| ScottK | I think having it in a PPA for people that want it is OK, but it should not go in the archive at all. | 17:47 |
| shtylman_ | ScottK: but what does backporting it have to do with having it in lucid? | 17:47 |
| shtylman_ | is there something I am missing in the process? | 17:47 |
| JontheEchidna | [12:37:08] <shtylman_> how come not 4.6 for karmic? | 17:48 |
| shtylman_ | oh jesus | 17:48 |
| * shtylman_ slams head | 17:48 | |
| shtylman_ | 4.6 for lucid I meant... | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, we already have 4.6 in lucid | 17:48 |
| shtylman_ | oh...ignore my stupidity | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 17:48 |
| shtylman_ | we already know I can't read | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | So how's UDS? | 17:50 |
| shtylman_ | great! | 17:51 |
| shtylman_ | people liked ScottK 's netbook demo | 17:51 |
| shtylman_ | and my personal goal is to get Riddell to install chromium | 17:52 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 17:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: qt 4.6 will be needed for any kde 4.4 backports to karmic | 17:52 |
| JontheEchidna | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JonathanThomas/KubuntuDevApplication | 17:59 |
| shtylman_ | agateau: how did your session go? | 17:59 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: ooh | 17:59 |
| * Riddell acting all surprised although he's already seen the page being edited from his wiki subscriptions | 18:00 | |
| shtylman_ | agateau: how did your session go? | 18:00 |
| JontheEchidna | just need to figure out what I least like about Kubuntu ;-) | 18:00 |
| JontheEchidna | haha | 18:00 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I think you can remove the "Please do not edit" bit | 18:00 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, whoops. missed that | 18:01 |
| agateau | shtylman_: was not the one I was supposed to show my slides :) | 18:03 |
| agateau | but people were arguing the application indicators should be done the way kde does | 18:04 |
| agateau | :) | 18:04 |
| agateau | (but they probably don't know that) | 18:04 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: for stuff you don't like, didn't you just write a whole document of things you don't like? | 18:05 |
| shtylman_ | haha... nice :) | 18:05 |
| JontheEchidna | good idea | 18:05 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell, ScottK, apachelogger_: I'm planning to apply for kubuntu-dev soon. I would appreciate feedback for my application very much: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JonathanThomas/KubuntuDevApplication | 18:07 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: maybe point to the merges you've done on Kubuntu/LucidKDEMerges for Examples of my work ? | 18:08 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, that would be a great idea come to think of it | 18:09 |
| Riddell | did the uploaders of those packages have to change anything compared to what you did before upload? | 18:10 |
| JontheEchidna | Honestly I don't really remember, at least for jaunty. :( | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | er, karmic | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | shtylman_: now I'm doing it too, mixing up distro names :P | 18:11 |
| shtylman_ | JontheEchidna: glad to be of influence :p | 18:12 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: well just check the bzr log | 18:12 |
| * JontheEchidna wonders if this counts :P http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu/revision/130 | 18:13 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: yes, a perfect example of self critisism of your packaging weaknesses | 18:15 |
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| dailystruggle | hello I am looking for a mentor | 18:57 |
| dailystruggle | ok -- Hello is anyone Home? | 19:01 |
| dailystruggle | anyone know the UDS audio link | 19:04 |
| JontheEchidna | dailystruggle: for which room? | 19:08 |
| dailystruggle | just the main | 19:08 |
| JontheEchidna | icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/status.xsl | 19:08 |
| JontheEchidna | all of the rooms should be there | 19:08 |
| dailystruggle | I thx | 19:09 |
| ulysses__ | phew, I just got a kernel panic | 19:12 |
| dailystruggle | JontheEchidna: I forgot it is lunch | 19:15 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 19:15 |
| dailystruggle | european lunchtime | 19:15 |
| Riddell | dailystruggle: wanting to listen in on something? | 19:20 |
| dailystruggle | Riddell:yes but it is lunchtime | 19:21 |
| Riddell | and quite a nice lunch it is too, gourmet burger and chips | 19:23 |
| Sput | where chips == fries? | 19:23 |
| Riddell | yes, not crisps, we had that on Monday, crisp soup, crisps with salsa, they like their crisps | 19:24 |
| Sput | right, "crisps" was the word in that weird dialect spoken on the islands :) | 19:24 |
| * Sput always forgets | 19:25 | |
| Sput | crisp soup? | 19:25 |
| dailystruggle | I will be there tomorrow I was going to today but... | 19:25 |
| dailystruggle | Monday I think they called that Tex Mex but not a real Tex Mex | 19:26 |
| dailystruggle | No Peppers | 19:26 |
| dailystruggle | :-X | 19:26 |
| Riddell | yes they've very lax with the spices here | 19:27 |
| JontheEchidna | Get a volcano taco at Taco Bell if you want spicy | 19:28 |
| dailystruggle | Taco Bell? no just pick the peppers from my garden | 19:29 |
| dailystruggle | I call them mild but most people can't eat them | 19:30 |
| Riddell | dailystruggle: you're interested in Kubuntu? | 19:30 |
| dailystruggle | Yes I run a real mucked up system cureently kgubuntu | 19:31 |
| Riddell | well do say hi when you come here tomorrow | 19:31 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidTranslations for your reviewing pleasure | 19:32 |
| dailystruggle | I am doing my best to work around upstart It is so foreign | 19:32 |
| dailystruggle | They should release a pack that explains the differences | 19:33 |
| ulysses__ | ah, translation | 19:34 |
| dailystruggle | is this tomorrow? | 19:35 |
| * apachelogger_ is wondering how the proposed translations solution is solving any of the long-term maintenance issues | 19:37 | |
| apachelogger_ | in fact the solution seems to be what should have been there before we even started using rosetta | 19:37 |
| apachelogger_ | oh wellz | 19:37 |
| apachelogger_ | Nightrose: interested in moderating a wideband delphi? | 19:38 |
| apachelogger_ | or know someone who could be convinced? | 19:38 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger_: a what? | 19:38 |
| apachelogger_ | Nightrose: watching me and others get high and float above everything :P | 19:39 |
| apachelogger_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wideband_delphi | 19:39 |
| dailystruggle | :-$ | 19:39 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger_: oh dear - sorry but no | 19:40 |
| Nightrose | not really ;-) | 19:40 |
| apachelogger_ | hehe | 19:40 |
| apachelogger_ | Nightrose: any suggestions? | 19:40 |
| apachelogger_ | otherwise I will drag some homeless dude of the street to become kubuntu's delphi :P | 19:41 |
| dailystruggle | good | 19:41 |
| dailystruggle | You can find some just a few blocks away | 19:41 |
| dailystruggle | Salvation Army:-D | 19:42 |
| dailystruggle | only ten blocks from UDS | 19:44 |
| * apachelogger_ is not at uds though :P | 19:48 | |
| dailystruggle | ohh | 19:48 |
| dailystruggle | maybe one nearby | 19:49 |
| dailystruggle | :) | 19:49 |
| * apachelogger_ sings come fly with me and asks Nightrose for a dance | 20:04 | |
| Nightrose | ohoo | 20:04 |
| * Nightrose dances with apachelogger_ | 20:04 | |
| apachelogger_ | :) | 20:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger_: What we have is an agreement from the other side of the discussion on what they have to do by Alpha 2 for us to make a decision and some agreement that it might be reasonable for us not to use Rosetta. | 20:10 |
| ScottK | I think that is a good step. | 20:10 |
| cragdor | Hi all! | 20:11 |
| ScottK | So we either get proof it's fixed or we do the other thing and they've agreed to be OK with that. | 20:11 |
| ScottK | Hello cragdor. | 20:11 |
| cragdor | Hi ScottK, Hows things? | 20:11 |
| apachelogger_ | ScottK: hopefully | 20:11 |
| ScottK | cragdor: I'm at the Ubuntu Developer Summit, so very busy. | 20:12 |
| cragdor | OK | 20:12 |
| ScottK | apachelogger_: Yes, hopefullly. But progress. | 20:12 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidWebsiteMarketingBranding new spec for your reviewing pleasure | 20:23 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Sorry, could you add the "Prod Ng about his DB clone" Action item from the gobby session? | 20:36 |
| fale | hi | 20:42 |
| fale | I wanted to point out a package that I have done for rekonq 0.3.0 | 20:42 |
| fale | https://launchpad.net/~grimp/+archive/backports/+packages | 20:42 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: where's the wiki page who lists all kubuntu migrations performed in the past, like the french parliament ? | 21:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll have to push kde on a project tomorrow :) | 21:03 |
| dailystruggle | does anyone have the link to the room map there at UDS | 21:09 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I don't believe there is one | 21:10 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: I did with "We will also request to the sysadmins to follow up on a database clone so we can migrate changes." please clarify that if it's not well written | 21:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there was one afair no ? | 21:11 |
| Tonio_ | with all our derivatives and references | 21:11 |
| Tonio_ | I seem to remember about that | 21:11 |
| Riddell | hi fale, were there any packaging differences needed compared to 0.2.90? | 21:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: nevermind, I'll try to make a list, thanks :) | 21:11 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDerivedDistros | 21:12 |
| fale | Riddell: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35828640/rekonq_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_0.3.0-0ubuntu0.diff.gz | 21:12 |
| Riddell | but that not a list of big users | 21:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum thanks that'll help | 21:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah, you're right | 21:12 |
| Riddell | fale: so just a changelog entry, easy | 21:13 |
| fale | Riddell: yep, and, obviusly, the update of the code | 21:13 |
| Riddell | fale: our package in lucid has a patch kubuntu_01_polish_config_dialog.diff we should work out where that came from and if it's still needed | 21:16 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: where did that come from? | 21:16 |
| fale | Riddell: the main author has open a branch for the kde inclusion | 21:17 |
| fale | Riddell: and, in any, case, I'm for upstreaming as much as possible... If you want, I can try to speak to the author for upstreaming the patch.. | 21:17 |
| Riddell | I just don't know where it came from or what it's for, the changelog isn't very useful and there's no bug number | 21:18 |
| Riddell | I'm sure jon will appear soon to explain all | 21:19 |
| Riddell | he's good like that | 21:19 |
| fale | I see ;) | 21:20 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: hey | 21:21 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: you asked for me yesterday ? | 21:21 |
| maco | hi Tonio_ | 21:22 |
| Tonio_ | hey maco | 21:22 |
| maco | i havent been called a mistress yet this week | 21:22 |
| rgreening | Hey Tonio_ | 21:22 |
| Tonio_ | maco: :) | 21:22 |
| Riddell | maco: do you want to be? | 21:22 |
| rgreening | maco: mistress maco | 21:22 |
| maco | Riddell: no | 21:22 |
| Tonio_ | maco: | 21:22 |
| Riddell | wouldn't have thought so | 21:22 |
| maco | hahaha | 21:22 |
| Tonio_ | maco: I hope you forgave mee :) | 21:22 |
| maco | Tonio_: yes, but that doesnt mean i cant tease you! | 21:23 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: yeah, I was going to ask you about the filesharing for kde (net usershare) | 21:23 |
| Tonio_ | maco: thinking about it, I seem to remember that theorically I was right, just that the word isn't used that way :) | 21:23 |
| Tonio_ | maco: feel free to tease me :) | 21:23 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: did you do any work towards that? We are looking at it again... | 21:23 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: yeah, my priority this cycle | 21:23 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: are you going to have real time this cycle? | 21:24 |
| rgreening | :) | 21:24 |
| maco | Tonio_: yes well theoretically "awful" and "awesome" used to be synonyms | 21:25 |
| Riddell | maco: they did? | 21:26 |
| * maco finds citation | 21:28 | |
| Riddell | any volunteers to be approvers for the specs I've written? | 21:30 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: the plan is to wait for smarter who will start just the gui | 21:31 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: then I'll help to plug the net usershare commands | 21:31 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: the idea is to have something as simple as possible | 21:31 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: simply port nautilus share to kde in fact | 21:31 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: I'm hacking onit now... | 21:31 |
| rgreening | well, looking more to the point... | 21:31 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: hum, don't dupe the effort with smarter :) | 21:31 |
| maco | Riddell: http://www.qotd.org/archive/daily.html?date=2006-08-14 read the last quote | 21:32 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: the idea is to put this in a tab in folders preferences : | 21:32 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: http://gentoo.ovibes.net/nautilus-share/mediawiki-1.4.4/index.php/Image:Nautilus-share-hig-tab.png | 21:32 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: year, kdefileshare is part of kdenetwork-filesharing | 21:32 |
| Sput | Riddell: in older English books you'll still find "awesome" with a negative meaning | 21:32 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: we'll drop all of that | 21:32 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: yeah | 21:33 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: way easier to restart from scratch | 21:33 |
| rgreening | probably... | 21:33 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: the way kdefileshare is completly crap | 21:33 |
| Tonio_ | +works | 21:33 |
| maco | Riddell: also, oooooo neat http://www.prismnet.com/~dierdorf/ww-38.html | 21:33 |
| maco | Sput: no as in "awful" used to be a compliment | 21:33 |
| maco | Sput: meaning "full of awe" | 21:34 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: smarter will create the tab with UI, then I'll work with him on the code to get the good samba commands typed in | 21:34 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: last step will be to integrate with dolphin to get a shared symbol on shared folders | 21:34 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: as you can see we know what to do and will do it :) | 21:34 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: nothing very complicated.... just... it needs to be done | 21:34 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: ever since fiesty, if I recall... | 21:35 |
| rgreening | :) | 21:35 |
| rgreening | so, must be trivial :) | 21:35 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: yeah... that sucks | 21:35 |
| rgreening | haha | 21:35 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: devs are using sshfs, whatever | 21:35 |
| Sput | maco: but "awe" can also mean "fear" | 21:35 |
| Sput | and I've encountered sentences like "awesome thunderstorm" or "awesome silence" | 21:35 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: it's just unbelievable that nobody seems to be concerned with file sharing... | 21:36 |
| maco | Sput: ah true | 21:36 |
| Sput | shock & awe :) | 21:36 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: sometimes I wonder if desktop apps devs use their desktop or not :) | 21:36 |
| Sput | my dictionary tells me meaning for awesome reaching from "fantastic" to "terrifying" | 21:36 |
| fale | Riddell: do you think kubuntu will pass to plymouth for Lucid? | 21:37 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: we'll get this done in time for lucid | 21:37 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: I have put that on top of my todo list | 21:37 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: oh, I did that patch. I popped in #rekonq a few weeks ago and presented the patch but I never got a response. I should try again | 21:38 |
| Riddell | fale: no, but usplash may go away | 21:38 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what's it for? | 21:38 |
| fale | Riddell: why don't switch directly to plymouth? | 21:38 |
| Riddell | fale: better to just boot fast enough that it's not needed | 21:38 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: the config dialog uses a tree view for no good reason (there are no child modules) | 21:38 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: ok we'll keep it for now then but maybe try e-mailing upstream if irc doesn't work, or bug report | 21:39 |
| Riddell | fale: could you redo your rekonq 0.3.0 package with the patch from our version in lucid? | 21:39 |
| fale | Riddell: fedora uses plymouth and boots fast.. | 21:39 |
| fale | Riddell: yes, I'll do it later today (GMT+1) | 21:39 |
| JontheEchidna | I also have a string patch to change the config dialog title from "rekonfig..." to "Configure - rekonq" like most other KDE apps, but I didn't include the patch in our packages since that's a string change | 21:40 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: rekonq doesn't come with any translations so string changes aren't an issue currently | 21:41 |
| JontheEchidna | If they do in the future it would be a problem, best to play it safe and just get it upstream from the start, etc | 21:41 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: do you think I can propose it upstream? | 21:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll try the mailing list next | 21:42 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: right enough | 21:42 |
| JontheEchidna | fale: It would probably be better for me to propose it as the author. | 21:44 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: on this yes, but better someone else that noone ;) | 21:44 |
| JontheEchidna | I do plan on doing it, I just forgot about trying again :P | 21:45 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: I see | 21:45 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: I'm going to download now the patch and apply it to the package | 21:45 |
| fale | Riddell: I have to compile it streight for lucid, isn't it? | 21:45 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm going to write up a mail to the rekonq mailing list right now so I don't forget ;-) | 21:46 |
| Riddell | fale: preferably yes, you can set up a chroot | 21:46 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: if you have a gitorious account, is better to do it in gitorious | 21:46 |
| Riddell | fale: also the package in your PPA is done as a native package (since .tar.gz) it should have a .orig.tar.gz and a .diff.gz, you probably named the .orig.tar.gz wrong | 21:46 |
| fale | Riddell: couldn't I just tell soyuz to do it? | 21:46 |
| Riddell | fale: yes you could put lucid in the changelog and upload to a PPA | 21:47 |
| fale | Riddell: I'm using the debuild -S ...maybe I'm using the wrong parameter | 21:47 |
| Riddell | fale: that's fine, it's the tar name which is wrong | 21:47 |
| Riddell | needs to be rekonq_0.3.0.orig.tar.gz | 21:47 |
| fale | Riddell: ok, renamed :) | 21:49 |
| fale | Riddell: which folder should be in the archive? all out of 'debian'? | 21:50 |
| Riddell | fale: which archive? | 21:50 |
| bdgraue | Riddell: sry to interrupt, i have seen that last plasma-widget-networkmanagement failed to build? | 21:50 |
| Riddell | the orig.tar.gz should be the sources from upstream | 21:50 |
| Riddell | bdgraue: oh blurg | 21:50 |
| fale | Riddell: the sources from upstream are in a folder... should I remove the folder? | 21:51 |
| Riddell | fale: I'd need to see the layout of all your files to answer that | 21:52 |
| fale | Riddell: the layou of the files should be the same? | 21:52 |
| Riddell | rekonq_0.3.0.orig.tar.gz should extract to rekonq-0.3.0/ which contains the sources | 21:53 |
| Riddell | you add rekonq-0.3.0/debian/ with the packaging | 21:53 |
| Riddell | debuild -S -sa will make a .diff.gz and a .dsc all ready for upload | 21:53 |
| fale | Riddell: ok | 21:54 |
| fale | Riddell: dh: unable to load addon kde: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kde.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 8) line 2. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 8) line 2. | 21:58 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, that requires the fancy new dh7 stuff in lucid | 22:01 |
| JontheEchidna | reverting debian/rules to the 0.2.0 code and re-adding the cdbs dependency will fix that | 22:01 |
| fale | I see | 22:01 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: is that 'good'? | 22:02 |
| JontheEchidna | It really won't have any noticable effects | 22:02 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: I see | 22:02 |
| JontheEchidna | Mainly it just makes the packaging a bit cleaner/more future-proof | 22:03 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Sorry, I must've missed that. Looks good :) | 22:04 |
| fale | I think it hasn't used the orig file :( | 22:04 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Based on the updates policy we've got in front of the tech board, KDE 4.4 would stay in a PPA. This same PPA can have Qt 4.6. | 22:05 |
| ScottK | shtylman__: We should have 4.6 in lucid, so backporting it has nothing to do with that. | 22:06 |
| JontheEchidna | fale: ok, patch mailed to upstream w/ a case for inclusion | 22:06 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: cool ;) | 22:07 |
| Riddell | 22:07 | |
| JontheEchidna | bah, awaiting moderator approval | 22:07 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: I'm trying to make the upload working correctly | 22:07 |
| JontheEchidna | I really hope they'll consider the patch. I know that they have ideas about the uniqueness of the project, but taking a little conformancy for professionalism would really help imo | 22:08 |
| * fale agrees | 22:08 | |
| * JontheEchidna wonders how open they'd be to use "Rekonq" throughout the gui rather than "rekonq" | 22:08 | |
| Riddell | I know that finding a decent name is on their todo | 22:09 |
| fale | yep | 22:10 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: in any ways they will work on conformacy before 0.4 | 22:10 |
| JontheEchidna | cool, maybe this patch will be the start | 22:10 |
| fale | Riddell: File rekonq_0.3.0.orig.tar.gz already exists in Primary Archive for Ubuntu, but uploaded version has different contents. | 22:11 |
| fale | Riddell: Is strange, because I have only downloaded it from upstream | 22:11 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, you could do a debuild -S -sd and not have to upload the entire tarball then | 22:12 |
| JontheEchidna | since Ubuntu already has a copy | 22:12 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: trying | 22:13 |
| Riddell | ? thre is no rekonq_0.3.0.orig.tar.gz in the archives | 22:13 |
| JontheEchidna | really? I uploaded it earlier today | 22:13 |
| fale | Riddell: launchpad sees it :s | 22:13 |
| fale | mmm then I may be doing an already done work :s | 22:14 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, yeah... you probably are. Sorry about not seeing that earlier | 22:14 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: np ;) | 22:14 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: oh, blah, so you did | 22:14 |
| Riddell | well in that case fale probably just wants to do the backports thing for that | 22:14 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: I still must take a lot of confidence with packages... than exercising more is not bad ;) | 22:14 |
| JontheEchidna | I would appreciate somebody doing the backport, if you're interested | 22:15 |
| fale | Riddell: guess so ;) | 22:15 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: yes :) I'll try it | 22:15 |
| fale | how can I download the sources for lucid from karmic? | 22:15 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 22:16 |
| Riddell | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq/0.3.0-0ubuntu1 | 22:16 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 22:16 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: are you listening to the session? | 22:16 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, is there a session now? | 22:16 |
| Riddell | touchpad config | 22:16 |
| Riddell | #ubuntu-uds-waverly | 22:17 |
| JontheEchidna | I kinda am packaging that, aren't I ;-) | 22:17 |
| * jussi01 is in the -eomen session... | 22:17 | |
| jussi01 | -women even | 22:17 |
| fale | rejected again :( | 22:20 |
| fale | trying again :s | 22:22 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: accepted :) I link you it now or as soon as it will be compiled? | 22:26 |
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| JontheEchidna | fale: now would be fine | 22:27 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/~f4l3/+archive/ppaa/+packages | 22:28 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: sorry: https://launchpad.net/~f4l3/+archive/ppa/+packages | 22:29 |
| JontheEchidna | fale: as an aside, generally it's good practice to add ~karmic1 to the version of backport packages | 22:31 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: didn't knew that... I can do it with it ;) | 22:31 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: going up ;) | 22:32 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh, I should probably tell you why we do that | 22:33 |
| JontheEchidna | The ~karmic1 makes the version number lower than 0ubuntu1, so thatupgrades to the next kubuntu release work smoothly | 22:33 |
| JontheEchidna | so It'll probably fail to upload since you already have 0buntu1 in your ppa. No biggie though | 22:34 |
| JontheEchidna | Multitouch support for Qt apps in general is coming for Qt 4.6 | 22:35 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: wait... I should call it rekonq_0.3.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1 or rekonq_0.3.0~karmic1-0ubuntu1? | 22:35 |
| JontheEchidna | er, wrong channel | 22:35 |
| JontheEchidna | The first one, though it's too late for this upload | 22:35 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: I see.. well... it failed :/ | 22:36 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 22:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Does it build-depend on debhelper, cdbs and pkg-kde-tools? | 22:37 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: nope, I was going to check it | 22:37 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: at this point how should I call it? karmc2? | 22:38 |
| JontheEchidna | to be able to use ~ you'd have to bump it to 0ubuntu2 | 22:39 |
| fale | I think I can do it without bumping version ;) | 22:39 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/~f4l3/+archive/ppa/+packages | 22:45 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like it's getting farther now :) | 22:48 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: yep | 22:49 |
| fale | :S | 22:50 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: Build-Depends: debhelper, quilt, pkg-kde-tools, cddb, docbook2x, kdelibs5-dev | 22:51 |
| fale | -.- spell, damn | 22:51 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/~f4l3/+archive/ppa/+packages done :) | 23:00 |
| JontheEchidna | Cool | 23:01 |
| fale | JontheEchidna: :) | 23:02 |
| JontheEchidna | So for official backports you'd want to follow the written stuff here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Backport Process | 23:04 |
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| fale | JontheEchidna: where should I post for a 'comment or feedback'? | 23:07 |
| Riddell | davidbarth: ping | 23:08 |
| Riddell | davidbarth: you wanted moi and aurelien? | 23:08 |
| JontheEchidna | fale: probably you could put out a general call for testing here for testers for your ppa packages | 23:09 |
| JontheEchidna | then they could comment on how they worked out. I'm sure there are plenty of people here who could test | 23:09 |
| JontheEchidna | I would but I'm crazy and am already using lucid :x | 23:09 |
| fale | I see | 23:09 |
| JontheEchidna | In fact I would have done rekonq 0.3.0 last night if X was working | 23:11 |
| JontheEchidna | but that's partially my fault for turning off the computer at the wrong time | 23:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I suppose I could blame it on the pre-alpha-ness, but I'm the one who chose to use pre-alpha crack in the first place | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | I think I'm just rambling at this point | 23:12 |
| fale | Isee it | 23:12 |
| Lindows | is there any update on the ext4 data corruption? is a patch coming? | 23:13 |
| Lindows | I just ran an md5sum on a windowXP virtual image, 30GB+, definately corruption of large files | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | #ubuntu-devel would probably be a better place to query on that. Kubuntu doesn't really touch low-level things like that | 23:14 |
| Lindows | thank you | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | you're welcome. Sorry I couldn't be of more help | 23:16 |
| JontheEchidna | the sendaround can be annoying, I'm sure. ;-) | 23:17 |
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| * Riddell spots kb9vqf causing trouble on kde-devel :) | 23:19 | |
| * kb9vqf ducks and hides | 23:19 | |
| kb9vqf | :) | 23:20 |
| zorael | Kopete won't play any sounds, and when I try to force it to by previewing sounds for an event under notifications, it crashes without invoking DrKonqi and spouts "kopete: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei" to the terminal. Should I take it to bugs.kde.org? | 23:23 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: your pim-runtime merge is in progress? | 23:23 |
| zorael | Actually, systemsettings does the same when trying to open the Multimedia section. "systemsettings: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei" | 23:24 |
| fale | anyone wants to try rekonq 0.3.0 under karmic? | 23:24 |
| zorael | Nevermind, allegedly caused by incomplete migration to Qt 4.6, guess I'll downgrade some packages. | 23:27 |
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