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| LaserJock | anybody happen to have an opinion on which VM solution would be "fastest": qemu, VirtualBox, VMware Player | 17:57 |
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| nagappan | hi ara | 19:58 |
| nagappan | ara, how things going in conf ? | 19:58 |
| ara | hey nagappan, doing good, a lot of sessions! | 19:58 |
| nagappan | ara, cool | 20:02 |
| ara | nagappan, how is ldtpv2 going? ;-) | 20:06 |
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| switchgirl | hii | 21:10 |
| switchgirl | i'm on Lynx | 21:10 |
| switchgirl | how to test it? | 21:10 |
| switchgirl | anyone? | 21:20 |
| switchgirl | switch-testing-desktop:~$ cat /etc/issue | 21:26 |
| switchgirl | Ubuntu lucid (development branch) \n \l | 21:26 |
| switchgirl | anyone using it? | 21:26 |
| switchgirl | i am | 21:26 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Sorry for the delay -- a lot of the testers and developers are in sessions at UDS this week | 21:30 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: At the moment, lucid is largely the same as karmic, so there's not a lot to test yet :) | 21:30 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: But if you are adventurous, updating whenever you see updates available and just using the system is a great way to test. And of course report bugs when you see them ;) | 21:30 |
| switchgirl | whats the programme that flashes notices up at me in the top right? | 21:31 |
| switchgirl | thats full of lines | 21:31 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: There are also a lot of resources at http://qa.ubuntu.com/ for testing | 21:31 |
| fader_ | Hmm, could be the notification applet or maybe network manager if you are on a wireless network | 21:31 |
| fader_ | If you right-click on it and select 'About' that should tell you | 21:32 |
| switchgirl | cant as it greys out | 21:32 |
| switchgirl | in karmic its fine | 21:32 |
| switchgirl | but not in Lucid | 21:32 |
| bmwracer0 | is there anything to test for lucid yet? | 21:33 |
| fader_ | Hmm, is it a box that is opening some space below the panel that fades out when you move your mouse over it? | 21:33 |
| fader_ | bmwracer0: UDS Lucid is going on right now, which is the planning sessions for Lucid, so there's not a lot to test yet | 21:33 |
| nagappan | ara, sorry was away | 21:34 |
| nagappan | ara, things are going good, started back on LDTPv2 | 21:34 |
| nagappan | ara, now VMware WS 7.0 is released | 21:34 |
| nagappan | ara, have more free time | 21:34 |
| fader_ | bmwracer0: you can find more information about it (including how to participate remotely) here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-L | 21:34 |
| bmwracer0 | okay thanks | 21:35 |
| switchgirl | i gave Lucid a 30 gb space on my hdd after testing it in VirtualBox | 21:37 |
| fader_ | bmwracer0: As I said to switchgirl, if you're feeling adventurous you can always update to lucid and track the updates and help us catch bugs | 21:37 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Excellent! :D My guess is that bugs will start showing up in the next week or two as development really gets underway. The earlier we can catch them the faster they'll be fixed. | 21:37 |
| fader_ | So if you're willing to play with it in virtualbox and help report bugs, it would be greatly appreciated. | 21:38 |
| bmwracer0 | ok great | 21:38 |
| * switchgirl grasps her bug swatter while fader_ godes her on "Lemme at em Lemme at em....." | 21:38 | |
| bmwracer0 | where is the information on that? | 21:38 |
| switchgirl | i hate bugs | 21:38 |
| switchgirl | :) | 21:38 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: :) We all do! | 21:38 |
| fader_ | bmwracer0: Information on what? Upgrading to Lucid? | 21:39 |
| bmwracer0 | nevermind, i found it :) | 21:39 |
| fader_ | Please be aware that as Lucid is under development, there *will* be major bugs that might prevent you from using your system or might cause you to lose data, so you might not want to run it on your main computer | 21:40 |
| fader_ | A secondary system or a virtual machine is recommended, at least until we get somewhat farther in the development cycle. | 21:40 |
| switchgirl | its simple bmwracer0 edit sorces and change em to Lucid rather than karmic | 21:40 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Actually, I think you can even do it an easier way... "sudo update-manager -d" in a terminal should present you with update manager and let you upgrade in a GUI | 21:41 |
| * fader_ is lazy and likes GUIs :) | 21:41 | |
| switchgirl | i have a two part system (one half Lucid one half Karmic) | 21:42 |
| fader_ | That's the smart way to do it. ;) | 21:43 |
| switchgirl | that was after i installed on a 10gb partition in a virtual box | 21:45 |
| fader_ | It's helpful to have access to both, as you can check to see if a bug that you found exists in the previous version or if it is a regression. That's very valuable data to add to bugs. | 21:47 |
| switchgirl | i have access to all three Ubuntu's (the LTS and Karmic) now Lucid | 21:54 |
| switchgirl | also have 9 other machines in Virtual Box | 21:54 |
| fader_ | Fabulous! | 21:56 |
| fader_ | If anyone who is willing to help with QA is interested, we have weekly QA team meetings on the #ubuntu-meeting channel at 1700 UTC | 21:56 |
| fader_ | (You can see the calendar of the various Ubuntu meetings here: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar ) | 21:56 |
| fader_ | Please come join and pitch in :) | 21:57 |
| fader_ | There was no meeting this week due to the developer summit, but we should be back on schedule next week | 21:57 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Having all those various machines would be a huge help if you can assist with upgrade testing toward the end of the cycle | 21:58 |
| fader_ | Though you don't have to wait until the end to start testing and reporting bugs, of course | 21:59 |
| switchgirl | kk what needs to be done i wont wait | 21:59 |
| switchgirl | Mark said i'm ganna have a rough ride | 21:59 |
| switchgirl | meh... | 21:59 |
| fader_ | Hehe | 22:00 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: At the moment just play with lucid, keep it up to date and use it | 22:01 |
| fader_ | In a week or two we'll have a better idea of what is being added and changed | 22:01 |
| switchgirl | cool | 22:01 |
| fader_ | The QA meetings are a good venue to discuss what needs tested... the whole QA team and community attend these and often there are specific areas mentioned there | 22:01 |
| switchgirl | I'd like to see a different design fr the desktop | 22:01 |
| fader_ | There are also scheduled 'bug days' for testing specific packages | 22:02 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: A lot of design discussion is happening this week :) Feel free to jump in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-L | 22:02 |
| switchgirl | also get rid of Wine replace it with a version of VirtualBox | 22:02 |
| * switchgirl plays spot the female | 22:03 | |
| switchgirl | not many :s | 22:04 |
| * switchgirl hopes to change that | 22:04 | |
| fader_ | Unfortunately VirtualBox can't entirely replace wine, as it requires a licensed version of Windows to run Windows software, while Wine is Free | 22:04 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Indeed; we would love to have more women participating in Ubuntu | 22:04 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: You might be interested in the work the Ubuntu Women group are doing: http://www.ubuntu-women.org/ | 22:05 |
| switchgirl | there is a bug with flashplayer - iplayer it replays at the end when its not supposed to | 22:06 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Please file a bug in launchpad if there is not one already :) | 22:06 |
| fader_ | The best way to make sure things get fixed is to file bugs in Launchpad and provide as much detail as possible | 22:07 |
| fader_ | The more information you can provide the easier time the developers have fixing it | 22:07 |
| fader_ | (though Flash is an unfortunate case, as it is not Free software) | 22:07 |
| switchgirl | cool | 22:07 |
| switchgirl | whats the command that builds a whole picture of the system (listing the type of RAM etc?) | 22:08 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Hmm, not sure :( Usually if I am reporting a bug I try to provide the following information: | 22:09 |
| fader_ | uname -a | 22:09 |
| fader_ | sudo lspci -vnvn | 22:09 |
| fader_ | and if it's system related, several log files: /var/log/syslog, /var/log/dmesg, /var/log/messages | 22:09 |
| switchgirl | yeah, i'll always provide a full thing with my bug reports | 22:11 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Excellent. It's appreciated :) | 22:15 |
| switchgirl | dont think people will complain | 22:16 |
| fader_ | Indeed; it's hard (though not impossible) to provide too much information and very easy to provide too little. | 22:20 |
| switchgirl | fader_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/485061 that any use? | 22:35 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 485061 in firefox-3.5 "Adobe Flash loops in BBC iplayer firefox" [Undecided,New] | 22:35 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: Looks very good to me! (Though I'm not a firefox developer, so you might get asked for additional information at some point) | 22:36 |
| switchgirl | kk | 22:37 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: It looks like you used ubuntu-bug for this, which is fantastic :) It automatically adds the relevant files and logs to the bug. | 22:39 |
| switchgirl | yeah i was trying to add the FULL system profile | 22:39 |
| switchgirl | k refresh yeah shall see :) | 22:40 |
| switchgirl | is Lucid a Daily? | 22:40 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: There are daily builds of Lucid going on now; there is a new one every day | 22:41 |
| switchgirl | cool | 22:41 |
| fader_ | Though if you run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' every day you will have the same packages | 22:42 |
| switchgirl | soi guess boot up into Lucid and sudo update-manager -d | 22:42 |
| switchgirl | :s found a bug that the bug manager cant handle | 22:43 |
| switchgirl | ignore me | 22:44 |
| switchgirl | made an error with the prcess number in terminal | 22:44 |
| fader_ | :) | 22:47 |
| switchgirl | apparently i was right... it wont compile bug reports for adobe air installer | 22:47 |
| fader_ | Yeah, unfortunately there's very little we can do with closed-source applications :( | 23:00 |
| fader_ | Other than whine at the makers of them to fix them | 23:00 |
| switchgirl | oh and gnome bar occasionally allows the desk bar (bit that allows programme title and movement) to hide under it - this could be bad for users - espessually newbies occers in 8.10 8.04 8.04 and 10.04 | 23:02 |
| switchgirl | *occers in ubuntu 8.10 8.04 9.10 9.04 | 23:04 |
| fader_ | switchgirl: If you can reliably reproduce that (e.g. have a series of steps that someone else can follow to cause it to happen) that would be fantastic to add to a bug | 23:09 |
| switchgirl | i will but... where to add it | 23:10 |
| switchgirl | gnome-bar i suppose | 23:10 |
| fader_ | Indeed; usually your best guess is the way to go. If it turns out to be in the wrong place, a bug triager or developer can move it | 23:12 |
| fader_ | If anyone's interested, there's a session at UDS going on right now about how to help involve the community in testing. Audio is here: Audio: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/stanford.ogg.m3u | 23:29 |
| fader_ | And you can participate by joining #ubuntu-uds-stanford | 23:29 |
| switchgirl | hi again | 23:55 |
| switchgirl | about to make my first video | 23:55 |
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