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* mwhudson lunch00:20
* thumper is actually enjoying the javascript stuff :)01:30
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mwhudsonman you can tell the sort of day i've had02:45
mwhudsonrebooted last night; hadn't started emacs until just now02:45
thumpermwhudson: oh no03:03
thumpermwhudson: why is that?03:03
mwhudsonthumper: because i've been writing email/on the phone/yakking on irc all day03:03
thumperheh03:03
mwhudsonman i hate our vcs test fixture thingies we use in the code import testsd03:45
lifelessyou could use testresources03:46
wgrantlifeless: OK, now I agree with you that creating SPNs on push is sane.04:09
wgrantI think.04:09
lifeless:)04:09
lifelesswgrant: actually trying to do something can be very educational04:10
mwhudsoncode that deletes the cwd can seem a little odd04:19
* mwhudson eods05:17
=== spm changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: LP Codehosting offline for H/W update 0800-1200 UTC | This is Launchpad Development Channel | Week 2 of 3.1.11 | PQM is open | I am Zero OOPS and So Can You! http://is.gd/4fkLl | https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Get the code: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | On-call review in #launchpad-reviews | Use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for pastes | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
mwhudsonoh stabby08:05
mwhudsonmy ec2 test of bzr-svn-imports failed because the relevant goo isn't installed on the image yet08:05
thumpermwhudson: :(08:14
thumpermwhudson: hey, I have a stabby alias now :)08:14
thumper✁☹08:14
thumper08:15
thumperhmm, just tried to push :(08:18
noodles775thumper: you're aware that codehosting is offline right? (see topic)08:19
thumpernoodles775: yeah, I remembered after I tried to push08:19
thumpernoodles775: I have a cool branch to land though :)08:19
noodles775:)08:19
* wgrant wonders how it could possibly take four hours, unless the disks are being entirely replaced offline.08:19
thumperwgrant: the resize forces a fschk08:20
wgrantthumper: Ah.08:21
spmbackup; resize; fsck08:21
thumperspm: so what will this do for our space?08:22
spmthumper: an extra 2-3 weeks breathing space :-P08:22
wgrantI wonder how much space would be saved by regularly pruning unnecessary revisions from stacked branches.08:25
adeuringgood morning08:30
noodles775Hi adeuring08:31
adeuringhi noodles775!08:31
maxbI'd think quite a lot, since for merged branches that amounts to deleting almost all their data09:15
wgrantmaxb: Exactly.09:16
lifelessstep 1) implement 'bzr gc'09:19
lifelessstep 2) implement 'bzr gc --keep-dead-heads'09:19
mwhudsonwgrant: i wonder that too09:53
mwhudsonwgrant: want a write a script that will try it?09:53
mwhudsonlifeless: you could go for a more inaccurate hammer: if the tip of the branch is in the repo of the stacked on branch, delete the repository from the stacked branch09:53
mwhudson(i realize this isn't quite the same thing)09:53
lifelessmwhudson: I wouldn't do that.09:56
lifelessmwhudson: as tags would get fucked over.09:56
mwhudsontags are stored in the repo?09:56
mwhudsoni thought it was the branch09:56
mwhudsonbut never mind09:56
lifelesstags refer to revisions09:56
lifelessif you zap the repo, and there is a reference to a revision not in the stacked on repo... boom09:57
lifelessyou've just deleted something important09:57
=== mthaddon changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: This is Launchpad Development Channel | Week 2 of 3.1.11 | PQM is open | I am Zero OOPS and So Can You! http://is.gd/4fkLl | https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Get the code: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | On-call review in #launchpad-reviews | Use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for pastes | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
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salgadocodehosting is still down for maintenance, I guess?11:40
marsthumper, the yui 3.0.12:01
marsthumper, the yui 3.0.0 branch has landed on db-devel12:01
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flacostemorning launchpadders14:27
sinzuibarry: bac: stand-up in 2 minutes14:31
bacmorning flacoste14:31
matsubarastub, Chex, gary_poster, rockstar, Ursinha, sinzui, allenap: LP production meeting in 28 min @ #launchpad-meeting14:32
maxbflacoste: Hi. Would it be possible to reassign the official meta-lp-deps branches to ~launchpad-committers at this point?14:34
flacostemaxb: sure thing14:34
Ursinhamatsubara, I'm afraid I won't be able to attend14:34
maxbThanks :-)14:35
matsubaraUrsinha, that's ok14:35
flacostemaxb: i'm going to mark the dapper and gutsy branch obsolete, any objections?14:37
maxbMakes sense14:38
flacostemaxb: all done14:40
maxbflacoste: Could you reassign the dapper and gutsy too? To keep them all together and so that I can patch up their stacked-on urls.14:41
flacostemaxb: doing...14:44
flacosteand done14:45
maxbsuitable surgery performed on the stacked_on_urls14:50
maxbvia horrid assortment of sftp and bzrlib in interactive python :-)14:50
matsubarahi bigjools14:51
matsubaraare you going to be around for the lp production meeting?14:51
matsubarain 9 min :-)14:51
bigjoolsmatsubara: no :)14:55
matsubarabigjools, anyone from soyuz will be around?14:55
bigjoolsnoodles775: would you be able to fill in please?14:56
bigjoolsand good morning/afternoon BTW :)14:56
noodles775bigjools, matsubara: yep.14:56
matsubarathanks noodles77514:56
matsubaraand bigjools14:56
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jmlhello launchpadders15:07
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gary_poster<chorus> hello jml!15:19
jml:)15:20
jmlI would like my own chorus15:20
gary_posterheh15:20
jmlyou know what one of the hidden dangers of two weeks solid non-hacking sprinting is?15:21
jmlrogue ec2 instances15:21
marsgary_poster, it's difficult to chorus without timestamps.  I see jml, I see barry.  Could have joined 6 hours apart for all I know!15:21
marswell, except that jml is probably at UDS right now, but I often forget that15:22
* barry sings d'oh, ray, me15:22
gary_posterlol15:22
marsjml, eewww15:22
barrygary_poster: hi!  how screwed are my 2 week old launchpad branches now? :)15:23
marsjml, 'ec2 check-for-zombies', put it in a crontab?15:23
gary_posterbarry: pretty screwed! :-) you have Python 2.5 and YUI 3 final landings now. ;-)15:23
jmlyeah, I should do something like that.15:23
jmlI have to put it on my server, obviously, because laptop-powered crontabs are next to useless.15:24
marswe all should15:24
* mars runs a desktop system15:24
barrygary_poster: yay!  hopefully they're all review branches and landed branches15:24
abentleygary_poster: I am trying to use a new library with launchpad (ampoule).  I've added the tarball to download-cache/dist and I've edited versions.config.  But it doesn't get installed when I run make, and make doesn't error either.  What am I missing?15:26
* jml has "Oh What A Night!" stuck in his head15:27
* barry stabs jml15:27
jmlat last, sweet mercy15:27
marsabentley, I just did that yesterday.  check doc/buildout.txt, there is a section with exactly the instructions you need.15:29
gary_posterabentley: add it to setup.py.  (we need to have indirect versions in versions.cfg, so it is nice to have all the versions in one place.  direct dependencies should be declared in setup.py as usual)15:29
gary_posteror see mars' reply :-)15:29
abentleygary_poster, mars: thanks.15:29
* jml goes to look for deryck & intellectronica15:30
marsjml, if you find them or beuno, tell them the bugs subscriber portlet has been broken for a week now :(15:30
jmlmars, do you have a bug number for that?15:31
marsjml, 48484815:32
marsbug 48484815:32
mupBug #484848: Subscriber icons in the subscribers portlet appear on a separate line from the subscribers' names <bug-page> <ui> <Launchpad Bugs:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/484848>15:32
jml(I successfully demonstrated the bug subscriber portlet last night)15:32
marsjml, just a style issue, but when you see it, it makes you go "oops!"15:32
jmlmars, I'm sure they would gratefully accept a patch :)15:32
marsjml, of course.  I did some work on it yesterday.  I'm not actually committing to fixing it though.15:33
rockstarflacoste, hello sir.15:33
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flacostehi rockstar, on the phone15:52
rockstarflacoste, no sweat.15:52
rockstarflacoste, I wanted to talk to you about fixing canonical_url in windmill.15:52
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beunomars, I know of the broken prtlet, so does deryck16:02
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rockstargary_poster, hi16:42
gary_posterrockstar: hi.  lunching.  ping you when I return?17:04
rockstargary_poster, I got what I needed from flacoste.  Thanks though.17:04
gary_postercool17:05
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bac-lunchsinzui: is anyone looking at bug 485237?  you want me to?18:48
mupBug #485237: OOPS - KeyError: 'link' - in person-index.pt <oops> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/485237>18:48
sinzuibac no, it was reported a few hours afo18:49
bac-lunchsinzui: so is that a "no, yes"?18:49
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sinzuibac: no, that is a no. it is not assigned and it is not inprogress.18:50
bacsinzui: righto.  but would you like to assign it to me?  i'm looking for work.18:50
sinzuibac: take it18:50
bacokey doke18:50
thumpermorning20:04
mwhudson_maxb: hi20:21
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mwhudsonor anyone else who understand how the launchpad ppa works currently...20:24
* wgrant knows a bit.20:25
jelmer'moin mwhudson20:34
jelmermwhudson, did you see my comment about _make_silent_logger imports in your bzr-svn-imports branch?20:34
mwhudsonjelmer: yes, i think i replied?20:35
jelmersorry, I must've missed that20:35
mwhudsonjelmer: i need to build launchpad-dependencies 0.57 for hardy and make an ami for ec2test before i can land it anyway...20:37
mwhudsonwhich is why i was asking about the ~launchpad ppa20:38
mwhudsonwgrant: i built launchpad-dependencies 0.57 for karmic last night20:38
mwhudsonwgrant: what do i need to do for hardy?20:38
jelmermwhudson: ah, ok20:39
jelmermwhudson, what about the import error?20:40
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wgrantmwhudson: You'll need to merge your Karmic branch into the Hardy branch.20:42
wgrantmwhudson: And probably give it a version number like 0.57~hardy1, rather than the traditional 0.57hardy1 which isn't right.20:42
wgrantActually, the hardy changes might not be necessary now that 2.4 support is not required.20:42
mwhudsonjelmer: s/_make_silent_logger/QuietFakeLogger/20:42
mwhudsoni guess20:42
mwhudsonwgrant: okay20:42
jelmermwhudson: ah, great20:44
mwhudsonwgrant: oh that's true\20:46
mwhudsoni forget exactly why hardy is different even though i was responsible for the difference20:46
mwhudson(and the bogus version number)20:46
mwhudsoni have this memory of being very angry though20:47
wgrantHeh.20:47
wgrantWhat's the diff?20:47
mwhudsoni think it's just not depending on python2.4-support on hardy20:48
mwhudsontrunk launchpad-dependencies still depends on all kinds of python 2.4 stuff20:51
mwhudsonis it too soon to drop all that?20:51
mwhudsongary_poster: hi20:51
thumperwgrant: can you see the landscape overview page now?20:54
marsmwhudson, OT question: would bzr-explorer allow me to quickly jump between 'bzr blame', the revision number, the diff for said revision, etc.?20:54
mwhudsonmars: no idea!20:54
wgrantthumper: It's lying, but yes.20:54
marsdarn :(20:54
mwhudsoni don't have any truck with this gui nonsense20:54
thumperwgrant: :)20:54
marsheh20:54
mwhudsonwell not really20:54
mwhudsonbut i don't know20:54
mwhudsonmars: bzr gannotate can do that20:55
mwhudsonso i expect explorer can too20:55
mwhudson(or soon will)20:55
marsif it builds against bzr nightlies...20:55
marsthere we go: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bzr-explorer-dev/ppa20:56
marsthis is one of the application usage models where the command line sucks: random browsing20:57
gary_postermwhudson: hi21:00
gary_postermwhudson: I think we can drop all that stuff.  We should convert the -2.4 to the -2.521:01
mwhudsongary_poster: ok21:01
gary_postermwhudson: does that mean I should say thank you? :-)21:01
mwhudsonyeah, i'll do that21:03
mwhudsongary_poster: will you review the branch?21:03
gary_postermwhudson: absolutely.  thank you!21:03
mwhudsongary_poster: around for another hour or so?21:03
gary_postermwhudson: yes, for just under two hours21:04
gary_posterish21:04
mwhudsoncool21:04
* mwhudson prefers summer in some ways21:04
wgrantbigjools: Can you please review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/distroseries-source-format-selection/+merge/14977 when you have time?21:14
bigjoolswgrant: is that the one where you already requested a review from me?21:15
wgrantbigjools: It is.21:16
bigjoolswgrant: ok, sorry I've not had time to get to it yet, blame UDS21:16
wgrantUDS does that.21:16
wgrantAnd I'll have a hopefully small branch tonight to fix gina.21:17
bigjoolswgrant: I'll do my best to look at it this week, but it's most likely to be Monday21:17
wgrantAnd I think that should be it.21:17
mwhudsongary_poster: do you think sed -i -e 's/python2.4/python2.5/g' debian/control is basically speaking right?21:26
gary_postermwhudson, yeah, removing the resulting dupe python2.5-dev21:27
gary_postermwhudson we might be specifying more than we need, but that's a diff problem for a diff day, IMO21:27
Ursinhabigjools, nice sticker21:27
mwhudsongary_poster: ok21:29
bigjoolsUrsinha: yes ma'am!21:29
Ursinhahahahaha21:29
* mwhudson is confused21:34
mwhudsonseems the launchpad-dependencies that built yesterday are broken?21:34
wgrantWhat's broken about them?21:35
wgrantA saw a bug about something last night, and it looked like lots of deps might have been removed, but I didn't look at it in detail.21:36
mwhudsonThe following packages have unmet dependencies:21:36
mwhudson  launchpad-developer-dependencies: Depends: launchpad-dependencies (= 0.57) but 0.56 is installed21:36
mwhudson                                    Depends: launchpad-database-dependencies (= 0.57) but 0.56 is installed21:36
wgrantHm. That's odd.21:36
mwhudsonyes21:36
mwhudsonthe 0.58 ones i just built installed fine though...21:37
ajmitchit is a little odd, since 0.57 seems to install fine on my karmic system21:37
ajmitchassuming it's still karmic you're talking about :)21:37
mwhudsonyes21:38
mwhudsoni probably buggered up something locally then, good21:38
mwhudsongary_poster: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/meta-lp-deps/bye-2.4-hello-2.5/+merge/1505821:45
gary_postermwhudson: awesome.  on call, will lock after21:45
mwhudsonhooray for proposing at ??:?4:5521:45
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thumpersinzui: ping21:58
sinzuiHi thumper21:58
thumpersinzui: are we going to talk today?21:59
thumpersinzui: I have 30 minutes spare now21:59
gary_postermwhudson: we can now use this on hardy because python2.5-support is available there, where python2.4-support was not?  (ISTR python2.4-support was the issue with Hardy)21:59
sinzuithumper: now is good22:00
* gary_poster is confused, sigh. http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/python2.5-support doesn't exist. Maybe in PPA?22:02
wgrantgary_poster: It's a virtual package22:03
gary_posterwgrant: ah ok, thank you.  that makes sense22:04
wgrantgary_poster: eg. if you apt-get install python2.5-support it will tell you that it's choosing python-support instead.22:05
wgrantBecause python-support Provides python2.5-support.22:05
gary_posterah, so.  only barely aware of virtual packages, thanks22:06
gary_postermwhudson: approved, with note about my question22:33
mwhudsongary_poster: it's an interesting question22:36
gary_postermwhudson, we could ask losa to verify practically, or try it on a ec2 instance22:37
mwhudsongary_poster: i think python2.5-support is actually part of hardy22:37
mwhudsonso it would be a bit exciting if it couldn't be installed22:37
gary_posterheh22:38
mwhudsonhm, maybe not22:38
gary_postermwhudson: as I said in the review, if you are comfortable then I am.  Otherwise, verifying somehow seems like a good idea before copying over to hardy22:38
* mwhudson is a little confuses22:40
mwhudsonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/python-support is part of hardy22:40
mwhudsonbut not python2.x-support22:41
gary_poster:-(22:41
mwhudsonso maybe we just need to depend on python-support22:41
gary_postermwhudson, maybe so,  If it were I, I must admit, I would do what had been done before, maintaining the separate Hardy branch.  Who added the split?22:43
* gary_poster looks at PPA22:43
gary_posterI think it is gone22:44
gary_posterMy memory is that Francis had made the split in 0.5022:44
gary_posterHe would probably know22:44
mwhudsoni made the split :)22:45
mwhudsoni forget why22:45
gary_posterheh22:46
mwhudsonit seems nothing on my system depends on python2.x-support22:46
mwhudsonjust python-support22:46
mwhudsoni'll see if my package installs on hardy22:46
mwhudson(on ec2)22:47
gary_posterok cool22:47
mwhudsonam i glutton enough to try to build a new ec2 image based on the new canonical-provided hardy ami i wonder...22:50
jmlec2 test ate my test run22:51
jmlwhat should I do?22:51
bigjoolsphilosophise about how it was meant to be22:51
wgrantmwhudson, gary_poster: Ah, it seems that Hardy's python-support doesn't Provide python2.x-support. Since we're no longer using some awful horribly obsolete removed Python version, it's OK to just depend on python-support.22:54
wgrant(until Lucid removes python2.5, but we'll see...)22:55
mwhudsonjml: send rude mail to jeff bezos22:55
jml:(22:55
gary_posterwgrant, ok cool.  Sounds good to me.  Thank you.  Lucid: the hope is to move to 2.6 then, but as you said, we'll see :-)22:56
wgrantgary_poster: You can't really move to 2.6 until after Lucid is released.22:57
gary_posterwgrant, yeah I know. :-)  in some theoretical world we could move to Lucid and Py 2.6 at once.  probably a horrible idea, in addition to being potentially difficult to coordinate22:58
gary_posterwgrant: well, actually...22:58
gary_postersupposedly we arranged to have resources to have internally supported 2.6 in Hardy if we had gotten there22:59
gary_posterParts already exist22:59
gary_posterBut almost certainly not everything we need22:59
mwhudsonhow can i install a .deb file with apt?23:01
mwhudson(i think that's what i want, i want to install a .deb but meet it's dependencies from the configured archive)23:01
wgrantmwhudson: You'd have to create a repository.23:02
wgrantmwhudson: Otherwise, dpkg -i it.23:02
wgrantThen apt-get -f install.23:02
wgrantThe latter will resolve unmet dependencies.23:02
mwhudsonah ok23:02
wgrantAlthough that doesn't help if it depends on other .debs that you don't have in a repo.23:02
mwhudsondpkg --fsck-me-harder ?23:02
mwhudsonwell yes, that's something i'd like to find out :)23:03
ajmitchgdebi will install a single .deb & resolve dependencies, I believe23:03
wgrantTrue.23:03
mwhudson--force-depends23:03
mwhudson?23:03
wgrantNo. That will install it unthinkingly.23:03
ajmitch--force-depends is a bit messy, you have to clean up with apt-get -f install afterwards23:03
wgrantYou want to dpkg -i, which will get it half-intsalled.23:04
wgrantThen apt-get -f install will resolve dependencies, and finish installing the half-installed package.23:04
mwhudsonwgrant: aa23:04
mwhudsonSetting up bzr (1.3.1-1ubuntu0.1) ...23:04
mwhudsonhmm23:04
ajmitchif you can bear a GUI, use gdebi for it I think23:04
mwhudsonajmitch: this is ec223:05
ajmitchthat's what I was worried about23:05
ajmitchlooks like it might have a cli-only mode as well, but if you have it installed now, it doesn't matter :)23:06
mwhudsonhm, launchpad-dependencies nearly installs without the ~launchpad ppa now23:06
mwhudson(after changing to depend on python-support)23:07
wgrantIt should.23:07
wgrantWhat is missing? geoip stuff?23:07
mwhudsonyeah23:09
mwhudsonspecific version of psycopg223:09
mwhudsonpython-profiler23:09
ajmitchit's a shame we can't just ram that into karmic-updates (or hardy-updates)23:09
mwhudsonpostgresql-autodoc23:09
ajmitchare there bits there that are missing from lucid?23:10
mwhudsoni don't know23:10
mwhudsonajmitch: well python 2.5 is/will be missing from lucid >:)23:11
mwhudsonwoo23:11
mwhudsonso my packages install on hardy23:11
ajmitchfrom main, anyway, though I understand that you only want to use supported packages :)23:11
ajmitchjust get python2.6 support in LP done quickly :)23:12
gary_posterIt had more issues than we had hoped, but it certainly could be done.  We will have to do some kind of careful dance for this, with the different supports for Hardy and Lucid.  Not having overlapping Python support in concurrent LTS releases is hard.23:13
* mwhudson is so happy to just have 2.5...23:14
ajmitchbecause you get new bzr-svn toys?23:14
mwhudsonyes23:15
mwhudsonand well23:15
mwhudsonjust feeling less like i'm living in the past23:15
ajmitchwhere you live, you'll always be in the future23:16
mwhudsongary_poster: new diff on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/meta-lp-deps/bye-2.4-hello-2.5/+merge/1505823:17
gary_postermwhudson: cool, +1 :-)23:17
mwhudsongary_poster: but i think i'm going to apply "if it builds and installs it's ok"23:17
gary_poster+123:18
mwhudsonwow, something set the commit message automatically from the changelog23:19
* mwhudson wonders what the ppa build queue is like currently...23:24
mwhudsonempty23:25
mwhudsonawesome23:25
lifelesshey23:31
lifelessquick doctest help23:31
lifelesssay I had a string "Ran 4 tests in 0.123s"23:31
lifelessand I don't care about the exact time23:31
lifelesshow would I write a doctest example for that ?23:31
jmlRan 4 tests in ...s23:31
lifelessthanks23:31
jmlthere's an option you might need to turn on, depending on your test infrastructrue23:32
lifelessjml: testtools23:33
lifelessjml: I'm taking an early lunch to finish last nights itch23:34
* jml files https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/485558 23:35
mupBug #485558: 'SourcePackage' name inconsistent with rest of Soyuz objects <cleanup> <tech-debt> <Soyuz:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/485558>23:35
jmlbigjools, bug 48555823:36
mupBug #485558: 'SourcePackage' name inconsistent with rest of Soyuz objects <cleanup> <tech-debt> <Soyuz:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/485558>23:36
bigjoolsfinally, a bug :)23:37
* lifeless takes a bootstrap shortcut23:38
jmlbigjools, it's a step forward.23:38
bigjoolsjml: from the school of JFDI23:39
bigjoolsjml: btw it should be a bug on registry23:39
jmlbigjools, we shouldn't have subprojects :P23:40
lifelessjml: do you need to \\ escape a . that you want to be literally matches ?23:40
lifelesss/matches/matched/23:40
bigjools:)23:40
jmllifeless, don't know, sorry.23:40
mwhudsonlifeless: it's not a regexp at all23:41
mwhudsonlifeless: '...23:41
mwhudsonlifeless: '...' matches an arbitrary amount of stuff23:41
mwhudsoni doubt there's a way to match ... explicitly23:42
jmlyou know23:45
jmlI think I'm actually going to use blueprints agian.23:46
bigjoolsjml: don't you mean specifications?23:46
jmlbigjools, ha!23:46
wgrantFeatures!23:47
* jml has a note that says we should consider how daily builds will interact w/ RSS feeds23:47
jmlbut doesn't really know where to put it.23:47
bigjoolsoo that's an interesting idea23:47
bigjoolsjml: I was going to say to add that to https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+spec/build-from-branch23:48
bigjoolsbut I think we need another specprint for daily builds23:48
jmlyeah, I was thinking that we could actually benefit a lot from splitting things up23:48
jmlbigjools, would you mind too much if I gardened the spec a bit on Monday?23:49
bigjoolswhat do you have in mind?23:49
jmlbigjools, looking at it, maybe splitting thing up and making subspecs maybe.23:49
bigjoolsyeah sure23:50
bigjoolsit does seem to have grown23:50
jmlI want to start dumping thoughts on the UI, and there'll be quite a few flows.23:50
bigjoolsui needs a separate blueification I reckon23:50
jmlyeah23:51
jmlI'll faceprint that on Monday23:51
bigjoolsbetter than facepalming it I suppose23:51

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