[00:05] <Laibsch> Why is python-scim explicitly depending on the python2.5 package?  I thought it was due to the python-config.py as I wrote in bug 441415 but there seems to be more to it.  Anybody there to enlighten me?
[00:05] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 441415 in scim-python "dependency on fixed python version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441415
[00:08] <micahg> Laibsch: it's not
[00:22] <micahg> Laibsch: so, the package itself doesn't have the dependency but the code does, so we opened a bug upstream to revert a change they made a while back
[00:22] <Laibsch> hi
[00:22] <Laibsch> thank you for your comment micahg
[00:22] <Laibsch> my apologies about the interruption, pidgin crashed on me (unfortunately, it does so every morning, seems to be MSN related)
[00:23] <micahg> np, I've had a few problems today myself
[00:23] <Laibsch> I have seen no other replies but yours, but I just asssume there are no others
[00:23] <micahg> in the channel?
[00:23] <Laibsch> Yes, no other replies, or were there?
[00:23] <micahg> nope, it's quiet, with UDS people are busy/tired
[00:23] <Laibsch> I wouldn't have seen them while pidgin crashed
[00:23] <Laibsch> OK
[00:24] <Laibsch> Can you point me to the upstream bug?
[00:24] <micahg> WeatherGod added it to the LP bug
[00:24] <micahg> http://code.google.com/p/scim-python/issues/detail?id=155
[00:27] <Laibsch> Indeed
[00:28] <Laibsch> I haven't read all of my bug mail yet this morning
[00:31] <Laibsch> OK, so we patch configure.in as well as python-config.py and we should be set
[00:31] <Laibsch> I'll prepare a patch and see how that goes
[00:32] <maxb> What should we do with a totally and completely wrongly filed bug like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/484935
[00:32] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 484935 in udd "sound card issues with Dell 1555" [Undecided,New]
[00:32] <micahg> maxb: set that task to invalid and open an Ubuntu task with the proper package
[00:33] <maxb> I'm not sure what the proper package would be
[00:33] <micahg> ok, then just create an ubuntu task and tag needs-reassignment
[00:33] <Laibsch> micahg: I slightly disagree ;-)
[00:34] <Laibsch> Instead of closing as invalid one task and adding another, just reassign the current task
[00:34] <Laibsch> Keeps the ticket more clean
[00:34] <micahg> Laibsch: not possible yet
[00:34] <micahg> Project/Distro tasks are different
[00:34] <Laibsch> I'm quite sure I've done it
[00:34] <Laibsch> Let me see for this one
[00:34] <micahg> of course if that option is available, it's ideal
[00:34] <maxb> Isn't 'needs-reassignment' somewhat redundant on a no-package bug? :-)
[00:34] <Laibsch> OK, if this is a special case
[00:35] <micahg> maxb: people search for the tag to look for bugs
[00:35] <micahg> to triage
[00:39] <CarlFK> someone pointed me to a repo of packages with debug symbols - anyone know the url?
[00:40] <greg-g> CarlFK: deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic
[00:40] <micahg> CarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[00:41] <CarlFK> greg-g: thanks
[00:41] <greg-g> CarlFK: np, there is more info at that page micahg referenced
[00:53] <micahg> Laibsch: bug 80902
[00:53] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 80902 in malone "Can't refile bug report from project to distribution, or vice versa" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80902
[00:57] <Laibsch> micahg: yes, that may be true
[00:57] <Laibsch> I was thinking this is about changing from project A to project B
[00:57] <Laibsch> in that case it's better to change than to close and add another task
[00:57] <micahg> of course
[01:22] <Laibsch> what's the standard wisdom again regarding when to add a patch system like quilt if Debian doesn't have it, yet?
[01:23] <Laibsch> patch system vs. patching direct and letting it go to diff.gz
[01:37] <micahg> if patches are need, you need a patch system
[01:37] <micahg> but that's better asked in -motu
[01:40] <Laibsch> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/FAQ#I%20need%20to%20fix%20a%20bug%20in%20the%20upstream%20provided%20source,%20modify%20the%20source%20or%20add%20a%20patch?
[01:41] <micahg> I wonder when that was written
[01:49] <micahg> Laibsch: nice catch
[01:49] <Laibsch> which one?
[01:49] <micahg> Devel FAQ
[01:50] <hggdh> all: I will cycle eeeBotu (#ubuntu-bugs-announce) to apply a new patch for bug 484337
[01:50] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 484337 in eeebotu "EeeBotu announces bugs multiple times" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/484337
[01:51] <yofel> hggdh: thanks
[01:53] <hggdh> OK, eeeBotu is back
[01:53] <hggdh> yofel: my pleasure
[01:54] <hggdh> please let us know is everything is kosher now
[02:10] <micahg> hggdh: fix seems to be working
[02:18] <hggdh> micahg: thanks goes to mrooney :-)
[02:19] <hggdh> I just cycled the beast
[02:54] <yofel> yeah, seems to be fine for now, I'll check the backlog tomorrow to make sure
[02:58] <hggdh> one less worry, then
[05:30] <guybrush_> Hello, does anyone happen to have the ATI 9.10 catalyst drivers? The latest drivers (9.11) broke my distro
[07:26] <yoasif> anyone around?
[07:26] <micahg> sure yoasif
[07:26] <micahg> but I can't do much right now
[07:27] <yoasif> micahg: i wonder what package i should report a bug to if i want an app to show up in the gnome preferred applications dialog
[07:27] <yoasif> micahg: gnomecontrolcenter or the application
[07:27] <micahg> I would think the application
[07:27] <micahg> it should register the mime type it can open I think
[07:27] <yoasif> micahg: thanks, i'll do that
[07:35] <mr_steve> Heh I didn't even know a bug title could be this long: Bug #485127
[07:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 485127 in ttf-dejavu "Configurando ttf-dejavu-extra (2.28-1) ... E: /var/lib/defoma/locked exists. E: Another defoma process seems running, or you aren't root. E: If you are root and defoma process isn't running undoubtedly, E: it is possible that defoma might have aborted. E: Please run defoma-reconfigure -f to fix its broken status. dpkg: error al procesar ttf-dejavu-extra (--configure):  el subproceso post-installation scri
[07:36] <micahg> mr_steve: unfortunately, yes
[07:36] <mr_steve> Heh, the bot won't even print its full title here
[07:37] <mr_steve> I'm gonna try and shorten that one up a bit
[07:37] <micahg> mr_steve: thanks
[07:50] <dmc1234> Hi
[07:50] <dmc1234> can I report a bug with Drapes?
[07:51] <micahg> dmc1234: sure, which release?
[07:51] <dmc1234> micahg, sec
[07:53] <dmc1234> micahg, 0.5.2 on Ubuntu 9.10
[07:53] <dmc1234> Drapes, aka Desktop Drapes
[07:53] <micahg> dmc1234: ubuntu-bug drapes is the best way
[07:53] <dmc1234> What do you mean?
[07:53] <micahg> run in a terminal the command: ubuntu-bug drapes
[07:53] <micahg> that's the best way to report a bug
[07:54] <dmc1234> Ah
[07:54] <dmc1234> k, done
[07:54] <dmc1234> Now wot?
[07:56] <micahg> it should open up a browser window where you can enter the information
[07:57] <dmc1234> Yep, thanks
[07:59] <dmc1234> Nice system
[10:08] <dmc1234> I tried to log a bug earlier
[10:08] <dmc1234> But it sent an e-mail to me instead
[10:14] <micahg> dmc1234: what do you mean?
[10:14] <dmc1234> micahg, I did the -bug command
[10:14] <micahg> bug 485212
[10:14] <dmc1234> It went through
[10:14] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 485212 in drapes "Drapes not loading up startup, sometimes slows down and crashes..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485212
[10:15] <micahg> yeah
[10:15] <dmc1234> Oh
[10:15] <dmc1234> Okay
[10:15] <dmc1234> So it mailed me a carbon copy then
[10:15] <micahg> if no one updates by next week, feel free to come back and ask someone to look at it unless it's urgent
[10:15] <micahg> dmc1234: yes, you get a copy of all of your bug correspondence
[10:15] <dmc1234> Thanks
[10:16] <micahg> this week people are busy at UDS
[10:16] <micahg> the developer summit
[10:44] <matti> ;]
[11:16] <LimCore> hi, reporting kde errors from kde errors handler is worthless - it never works
[11:16] <LimCore> please set severity Medium - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/470477
[11:16] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 470477 in kdepim "[9.10] kmail - report bug does not work" [Undecided,New]
[11:22]  * LimCore found next 3 bugs while reporting this one
[11:51] <johe|work> hi there
[11:51] <johe|work> could someone tell me who owns https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp/+bug/426813
[11:51] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 426813 in net-snmp "snmpd dies after requests with snmpwalk" [Medium,Fix released]
[11:52] <johe|work> or who the mantainer of snmpd is?
[11:54] <thekorn> johe|work, I think out server team knows more about this package
[11:54] <thekorn> s/out/our/
[11:56] <thekorn> but in general there is no classical mantainership in ubuntu
[11:56] <thekorn> so best is to contact them directly
[11:57] <johe|work> okay
[11:58] <johe|work> i just posted to the bug,
[11:58] <johe|work> the bug is closed in karmic but still there in LTS
[11:58] <johe|work> (hardy)
[12:01] <thekorn> johe|work, for this cases we have a procedure called "stabel release updates", for more informations see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[12:03] <johe|work> i take a look
[15:00] <Riotta> hi
[15:34] <bddebian> Boo
[18:49] <Riotta> please somebody fix bug 441408 (can provide random data and tests on that issue)
[18:49] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 441408 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev "[MASTER] Mouse jumps to bottom corner on click in fullscreen games. New mouses (A4Tech). Related to DGA / DGAMOUSE in SDL." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441408
[19:40] <fcuk112> qense: why was https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/477712 set back to triaged?
[19:40] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 477712 in virt-manager "typos in virt-manager" [Low,Triaged]
[19:41] <qense> is that against the policy of sponsors?
[19:41] <qense> oh wait, ti was you
[19:41] <qense> Well, as far as I know it should be on triaged, despite the fact that you've attached a patch.
[19:41] <qense> I would recommend not to use the In Progress status when you're writing a patch for a bug, that only confuses people and messes up the status.
[19:42] <fcuk112> i thought developers/bug-fixers look for stuff set to triaged, the sponsors pick up stuff that's confirmed with patches.  am i wrong in this?
[19:44] <qense> No, Triaged means we're completely done Triaging the bug. Confirmed means the bug is just confirmed, but it hasn't been fully Triaged yet.
[19:44] <qense> There are some devs that only go by Triaged bugs.
[19:53] <fcuk112> ok, thanks.
[22:05] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[22:12] <pedro_> folks we're having a discussion about the bug days at uds
[22:12] <pedro_> if you want to participate on it just join #ubuntu-uds-riogrande
[23:39] <yofel> hm... someone got an idea where bug 480147 should go?
[23:40] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 480147 in ubuntu "/etc/fstab mentions vol_id but that has been replaced by blkid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/480147
[23:40] <yofel> I'm not even sure if that's  fixable at all since touching fstab is dangerous by design
[23:48] <yofel> and could someone whishlist bug 485425 please? Thanks.
[23:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 485425 in linux "jffs2 - journaling for flash devices is not in the kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485425
[23:49] <Riotta> ;)
[23:54] <micahg> yofel: wishlisted