[01:41] <cprofitt> hello all
[01:41] <cprofitt> bodhi_zazen: do you know if Laserjock uses Laserjock as his IRC handle?
[01:44] <bodhi_zazen> yes he does
[03:24] <cprofitt> pleia2: you present?
[03:29] <cprofitt> hey paultag
[03:29] <paultag> Heyya cprofitt
[03:32] <cprofitt> I am seeing odd things on identi.ca tonight
[03:32] <cprofitt> Evolution being removed from ubuntu...
[03:32] <cprofitt> GIMP being removed...
[03:35] <paultag> What?
[03:36] <cprofitt> yeah... Evolution and GIMP are being cut from the Live CD...
[03:36] <cprofitt> or so says identi.ca
[03:36] <cprofitt> and the people at UDS
[03:36] <paultag> Oh
[03:36] <paultag> the Live CD
[03:36] <paultag> yea, that makes sense
[03:36] <paultag> not Ubuntu
[03:39] <cprofitt> yeah... but still ... what are they adding?
[03:40] <paultag> what do you mean?
[03:41] <cprofitt> I assume they were removed to make space for another app...
[03:42] <paultag> I don't think so. a 1 MB downsize over 1000 downloads saves gigabytes of transfer
[03:42] <paultag> I think there is reason enough in making the ISO smaller
[03:43] <cprofitt> I guess....
[03:43] <cprofitt> could always just go to a bare minimum install then... no liveCD
[03:43] <cprofitt> if the purpose of the liveCD is to sell the distro...
[03:44] <paultag> cprofitt, I think that would be counter productive though
[03:44] <cprofitt> and Fedora publishes DVDs
[03:44] <paultag> cprofitt, GIMP and Evolution has no reason to be on a Live CD
[03:44] <paultag> cprofitt, you won't do big GFX work in RAM, that is silly, same with checking email
[03:44] <paultag> cprofitt, and they are huge apps
[03:44] <paultag> cprofitt, the basics like Firefox etc should be there, along with the system theme
[03:44] <cprofitt> I am not at UDS... to it might be reduction of the ISO, but I had assumed it was for putting another app on
[03:44] <cprofitt> paultag: I am not MAD about it being removed...
[03:45] <paultag> cprofitt, I know
[03:45] <cprofitt> just curious what other app they are potentially putting on
[03:45] <paultag> cprofitt, I don't think they will
[03:45] <cprofitt> and the fact that the USB stick is made from the .ISO
[03:45] <cprofitt> that will make the USB process a bit longer
[03:46] <paultag> what do you mean?
[03:46] <cprofitt> well... I could burn a useful USB stick (LiveUSB with persistence) straight from the LiveCD ISO
[03:47] <cprofitt> now I will, if I want those programs, need to install them after creating the USB install
[03:47] <cprofitt> minor thing...
[03:49] <cprofitt> apparently they are adding a video editor to the liveCD
[03:49] <cprofitt> according to identi.ca
[03:52] <paultag> What the fuck
[03:52] <paultag> why would they
[03:52] <paultag> that is one of the dumbest things you can do
[03:52] <cprofitt> dunno...
[03:52] <paultag> I mean, really.
[03:52] <cprofitt> following it on identi.ca
[03:52] <cprofitt> so not sure... what the logic is
[17:21] <cprofitt> ey dinda
[17:22] <pleia2> cprofitt: yeah, still at uds
[17:22] <cprofitt> cool... Laserjock down there too? How is the process going? Is UCLP being well promoted?
[17:23] <dinda> cprofitt: howdy
[17:24] <cprofitt> hey dinda -- are you at UDS too?
[17:25] <dinda> cprofitt: yip, in the Big D
[17:25] <cprofitt> Cool.
[17:25] <cprofitt> having fun?
[17:25] <dinda> cprofitt: we have a session dedicated to it this afternoon
[17:25] <cprofitt> Nice....
[17:25] <cprofitt> I will have to look for reports on how it goes
[17:26] <pleia2> I posted details about it to the list
[17:26] <cprofitt> pleia2: cool... I have not gotten personal email today
[17:26] <pleia2> and yeah, doctormo has been running around talking to people about writing courses :)
[17:27] <cprofitt> Wish I had a job that would let me attend such events...
[17:27] <pleia2> cprofitt: I sent it out on monday
[17:28] <cprofitt> pleia2: I remember something about that...
[19:46] <nigel_nb> doctormo: ping
[19:46] <nigel_nb> hows the UDS going on?
[20:23] <doctormo> sorry nigel
[20:25] <doctormo> BiosElement: The system for making sure users have keys and such is ready for serious testing.
[20:26] <BiosElement> doctormo: Aight, Great. I'll have to test it. ^_^
[21:57] <doctormo> hey pleia2, we're up next
[21:57] <doctormo> Anyone else here for the UDS session?
[21:58] <pleia2> yeah, I'll be down in a few, have crew stuff to do real quick
[22:21] <pleia2> session now :)
[22:21] <pleia2> cprofitt: #ubuntu-uds-presidente
[22:30] <cprofitt> No idea how to get in to the streaming site... sorry
[22:32] <pleia2> cprofitt: any player that supports streaming should be fine
[22:33] <cprofitt> yeah... I am not finding the roon... or the stream... I have the player
[22:34] <pleia2> sorry, it's in the channel topic: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/presidente.ogg.m3u
[22:35] <cprofitt> thanks
[22:36] <cprofitt> open it... but no audio...
[22:36] <pleia2> turn it up?
[22:37] <pleia2> one person said it was a bit quiet
[22:37] <cprofitt> got it playing now... but it is very low
[22:37] <cprofitt> thanks pleia2
[22:39] <nigel_nb> I'm having some sorta trouble on vlc in windows
[22:39] <nigel_nb> any idea?
[22:39] <pleia2> don't know anything about windows, sorry :(
[22:40] <cprofitt> what is the IRC channel?
[22:40] <pleia2> #ubuntu-uds-presidente
[22:40] <nigel_nb> stuck at work.. shucks
[22:40] <nigel_nb> d you record this so I can hear it later or something?
[23:04] <cprofitt> off to my LUG meeting... see you guys later.
[23:04] <cprofitt> pleia2: doctormo: well done.
[23:28] <nigel_nb> the session is over?
[23:35] <pleia2> nigel_nb: yes
[23:38] <nigel_nb_> pleia2: how did it go?
[23:41] <nigel_nb_> you must be busy, catch up with you guys later. I gotta rush