[00:01] * RoAkSoAx slaps mjeanson :) [00:52] !iscsi [00:52] Sorry, I don't know anything about iscsi === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === david is now known as Guest77949 [01:25] i followed the mail filtering guide, however the only headers in mail i get are X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true and X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAIYsBEuWZcx//2dsb2JhbACBTZAutimHVIhyhDsE [01:25] what have i missed here ? [01:26] its going through amavis but amavis doesn't seem to be doing spamassassin [02:49] Has anyone else tried using virtual machine manager to remotely create a new VM on a server? [02:49] I can't choose the installation media [02:50] There's a bug filed on Debian from May (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=512253) with a dirty workaround that lowers the usefulness of ths application [02:50] Debian bug 512253 in virt-manager "virt-manager: Can't choose ISO-image (remote connection, ssh)" [Wishlist,Open] [02:50] That it is filed as wishlist upsets me. [02:59] If upstream doesn't support the functionality, Wishlist is probably appropriate for Debian. Is there an upstream bug? [03:01] hello to all ! i am trying to configure postfix for recieving emails on my ubuntu server that has a full web and dns server allready running for my local hosted webdomain. [03:02] now the strange thing is after looking in the log of postfix i belevie i can allready receive mails from some strange peoples at gmail! [03:04] http://paste-bin.com/view/94980615 [03:04] is this allready really possible or is this just spam ? i never told anybody till yet any mail or domain adress for the server ! [03:05] xperia2: That's someone trying to see if they can deliver to you (for spamming purposes). [03:06] There's no evidence in that log snippet that you actually accepted the mail. [03:06] It is normal for this to start within 15 minutes of a new server going online. [03:07] SkottK: hmmm i see also some strange relay output in the logs. i am using allready in postfix the relay possibilty from my isp to send mails [03:07] from my web server. give me just a second to paste this [03:10] http://paste-bin.com/view/e1333509 [03:10] hey guys, if ufw just a front end for managing iptables? [03:10] *is [03:10] my mail relay is "mail.bluewin.ch". strange to see this in the logs still ! [03:11] could it be that my mail server is used as a spam machine. it forward something or not ? [03:11] Nov 18 15:28:28 stromer postfix/smtpd[12360]: > 118-167-128-32.dynamic.hinet.net[118.167.128.32]: 250 2.1.0 Ok [03:11] Nov 18 15:28:29 stromer postfix/smtpd[12360]: < 118-167-128-32.dynamic.hinet.net[118.167.128.32]: RCPT TO: [03:13] ScottK: it looks like other people have the same problem with the same mail adresses ! [03:13] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952517 [03:15] xperia2: Not suprising. === MarwolTuk_ is now known as MarwolTuk [03:16] ScottK: should i worry about this or is this just normal as other have it too ? [03:17] xperia2: You also have your logs at a non-standard (higher) level of logging detail. This isn't needed and actually makes the logs harder to read. [03:17] xperia2: Assuming that's all there is, it's not a problem. [03:18] aah okay nice to know that ! [03:20] ScottK: have found a ruleset for blocking this. it looks like this is very comonn especially the mail adress "s2288@mail2000.com.tw" [03:20] about 40% of the messages are directed to this mail adress. [03:20] http://www.hobgoblinconsulting.com/remote/smreport.200812.html#grunty.schelin.orgrule [03:22] looking now at the ubuntu wiki help page for finding a good config example for my postfix server. [03:23] The only 'harm' it's doing in using some of your bandwidth and CPU. If that's not an immediate concern, I'd concentrate on other things. [03:25] yeah at the moment i will concentrate on configuring postfix for receiving mails for my domains and subdomains that run on my ubuntu server but for later i will block this for sure as i dont have only a home server with a normal home conection ! thanks for he clarification still [03:26] as i have only a home server with a normal home conection ! thanks for he clarification still === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [03:34] Is xperia2 operating an open relay? ;-) [03:35] twb: No [03:36] a open relay ? never heared. i have configured postfix to be able to send from my webpages sms messages to my cell phone. i needed for this to use the relay function in postfix as direct sending was blacklisted. [03:37] That's a relay probe, no sign it was accepted. [03:37] OK, I obviously wasn't paying enough attention. [03:37] i am using this for controll porposes when somebody register on the page as a exmaple to know directly over my cell phone that something has happened. [03:38] xperia2: Open relay means you will send mail from anyone to anywhere without checking [03:39] There's no sign in the logs you've shown that is happening. [03:39] ahh something full open in this case. btw. have found a very good wiki tutorial for my purpose ! exactly that was i searched ! [03:39] big compliments to the person that has writen this [03:39] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto [03:39] xperia2: Also look in the Ubuntu Server guide for your release. [03:40] xperia2: Which Ubuntu version are you running? [03:43] dont slap me now but it is a old version ubuntu-interpid! nee to upgrade it but i fear however that the upgrade proccess will brake all my settings. [03:43] will buy however in the next two months a new ubuntu dell laptop [03:45] and will install then the newest version of ubuntu on the hardware that was replaced [03:45] had someone already used ipp2p on ubuntu ? [03:47] xperia2: You can run whatever version you want, but generally server upgrades are very safe. [03:47] The reason I asked was to point you at the correct documentation for the release you are running. [03:49] what is the command for installing LAMP server from a desktop install [03:49] had some bad experince allready with upgarding ubuntu-desktop on my laptop so before i upgrade the server now i want to have a backup machine fr the server if it breaks i can swith the machine and the server still will work as expected. [03:49] xperia2: Have a look through this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/email-services.html - There are many Postfix how to's on the wiki part of help.ubuntu.com, but many of them are obsolete [03:50] xperia2: I can understand the caution. [03:50] great thanks ! [03:51] I would suggest use the server guide I just linked you as far as can [03:57] ScottK: one thing what can be say is that the upgrade process urges some people to buy ubuntu machines from dell with server support too :-)) [04:09] xperia2: I've upgraded servers starting from Dapper to Karmic and have only ever had one go really badly and in that case I was trying something and I knew it was risky. [04:12] when doing tasksel it has option for basic ubuntu server <-- what is this exactly, I know what LAMP is but do I want this other thing or not? [04:14] hi [04:14] SkottK: i give you right that upgrading of ubuntu-server should be absolutly no problem . the thing is that i have changed to mucht ubuntu specific things as a noob and at the upgrade proccess this will cause exactly problems. as you have said for people with knoweledge and know what they do no problem but for me i prefer to have a backup machine solution :-) [04:16] I'm looking for a reference on migrating sys v init scripts to upstart, but not coming up with anything particularly useful [04:17] has anyone done this? Can you recommend any doco? [04:17] does anyone know what exacly is basic ubuntu server under the tasksel cmd [04:18] cleary_: checked http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ ? [04:19] cleary_: as i know you have also the possibility to install mail server and dns server and such on [04:19] Nafallo: yeah, just plugged through the faq and wiki without coming up with anything concrete [04:19] the basci server is just apache, mysql, php and such on without mail or dns stuff [04:20] Nafallo: it seems to be more a focus on development of upstart as opposed to the use of upstart [04:20] xperia2: I'm not sure that you've understood my question (or you meant to address someone else?) [04:21] i would say basic server == lampp [04:21] xperia2: you meant to highlight spirits-sight then I think [04:21] Dang. I've accidently removed the access to sudo from my user on this ubuntu server test VM [04:22] oh yes sorry cleary ! [04:22] if I can't sudo and root is disabled, how can I gain my groups back [04:22] djveer, boot in recovery mode, drop to root prompt, and re-add your user [04:22] to sudoers [04:23] dumb question qman__, recovery mode is accessed off the boot cd? [04:23] djveer, no, press escape while grub is loading [04:23] arrow down to your latest kernel with (recovery mode) at the end [04:23] the system will boot, then give you a menu [04:23] choose root shell [04:23] qman__, thanks! you the man [04:24] (or woman) no offense [04:24] lol [04:25] bah... gotta restart the machine manually.. can't rebot because i'm not in the sudoers file [04:25] lol [04:25] >,< [04:26] Nafallo: never mind, I'm just going through the README.debian.gz in the upstart package now, seems I may have been too hasty [04:26] djveer, if you're local, press ctrl alt del [04:26] it'll go into reboot [04:27] OK, I don't see apache showing up in netstat after doing the tasksel for LAMP [04:27] hehe it's just a testing VM... I just hit the 'ol power button on it [04:27] I did a reboot just make sure every thing was started right [04:31] spirits-sight: are you able to restart apache "sudo /etc/inti.d/apache2 restart" [04:32] or to start it also ? [04:32] it works based on it goes to the website when doing the domain or ip address it gives it works page :-) any how now I need get name vitualhosting working [04:33] xperia2 you able ot help with this, I redid the system as when doing it yesterday would NOT work doing the way the guide told me to do it [04:33] great. virtual hosting isnt hard. what is the problem [04:36] yes virtual hosting isnt very good described in the wiki. i am using a non standard way for this. [04:36] have edited the file "/etc/apache2/sites-available/default" directly and restarted apache2 and it works with no problems for me ! [04:46] xperia2: sorry mind was wondering. OK I am trying to setup all the DNS stuff first make sure its all setup correctly [04:47] I am using linode as the provider of my VPS [04:48] for my A / AAAA record I am not sure hwat I should be puting any ideas I have two domain setup as master in the DNS manager I click on one and setting it up [04:50] dont understand now. did you installed the basic server or did you installed a full server with dns mail and so on ? [04:51] i assume you have installed a full server and need now to configure bund on your ubuntu server [04:51] sorry bind not bund [04:51] I am sure I need to do alot I am learning :-) [04:52] Yes I installed the full LAMP and basic ubuntu server from tasksel [04:53] ahh okay. i have registered a domain and then used for the domain dns entry this line here "ns.mydomain.com" [04:54] this dns entry point then to your server with the static ip which you have also to provide ! i assume you have this allready done [04:55] yes godaddy is pointing to the nsX.linode.com nameservers [04:55] ahh okay then you need just this here [04:56] File: named.conf.local [04:57] zone "mydomain.com" { [04:57] type master; [04:57] file "/etc/bind/db.mydomain.com"; [04:57] }; [05:00] and the file here that you need to create it [05:00] File: db.mydomain.com [05:00] $TTL 3600 [05:00] @ IN SOA ns.wificom.ch. root.wificom.ch. ( [05:00] 2009111332 ; Serial [05:00] 604800 ; Refresh [05:00] 86400 ; Retry [05:00] 2419200 ; Expire [05:00] 604800 ) ; Negative Cache TTL [05:00] @ IN NS ns.mydomain.com. [05:00] @ IN A x.x.x.x [05:00] ns IN A x.x.x.x [05:00] box IN A x.x.x.x [05:00] www IN CNAME mydomain.com. [05:00] subdomain IN A x.x.x.x [05:00] www.subdomain IN CNAME @ [05:01] thanks goes to the irc ubuntu-server user mostly called lamont as he helped me a lot with this. [05:02] ahh sorry replace wificom.ch with mydomain.com [05:04] after this restart bind "sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart" (make sure you change allways the serial number at every change) and you should be able to resolve your domain names [05:04] like dig mydomain.com @x.x.x.x [05:06] wow [05:06] that was alot [05:06] one moment or few :-) [05:06] its okay :-) [05:10] what does this "hostname -F /etc/hostname" do? [05:11] does it say to the system to look for the hostname in the /etc/hostname file [05:13] cant say ! not that dns expert :-) [05:14] can you resolve the domain on your server ? [05:15] 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost [05:15] 12.34.56.78 hostname.domain.org hostname [05:15] is the above correct or is it need fixing? [05:15] making sure all the rest of the stuff is setup correct before doing any other changes :-) [05:16] spirits-sight: Looks reasonable to me. BTW, hostname -F /etc/hostname means "set the hostname to be whatever is in the file /etc/hostname" [05:17] ok that what I throught and said above :-) yeah I understand a little more then yesterday :-) [05:19] jmarsden: so I don't change localdomain to my abc.org domain correct? [05:19] Correct. In the 127.0.0.1 line, leave it as it is. [05:24] thanks, ok just created the dir for the two domains also created the two available files /domain1.org and /domain2.org /etc/apache2/sites-available/ [05:24] correct? [05:26] does resolving of the domain works now ? [05:27] know in a minnut I believe it should :-) [05:27] test it with "dig mydomain.com @x.x.x.x" on your server [05:28] x.x.x.x is your static ip number to the server [05:30] well I just entered the domain into the brower and it point me to the server unlike yesterday, and its pointing to the correct directy as if it was still pointing to default it would show It Works! again but its not , instead its show the index dir for the domain [05:31] well in this case you need now just to make vhosting working and all is done. [05:31] can you post the two files for whosting [05:32] vhosting working its working, I just put in the direcory for the domain and then refresh brower and it shows what I did :-) [05:33] so everything is then okay :-) [05:34] yes yes, using the guide, yesterday I think what happen is that ubuntu did not install the basic ubuntu server stuff, then the guide had me do each item apache2 mysql php but today I used the tasksel do it for me and it seem to be working the way it should be [05:35] this is the guide I used >>> http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-9.10-karmic/ [05:36] so can anyone help me with amavisd-new and spamassassin. i'm trying to verify that the spam scan is occuring [05:36] i see no headers [05:42] flaccid: easiest way to check is to see if your CPU and memory are fully utilized :-/ [05:42] hehe they are not, then again its a low vol server [05:46] Actually I think I'm grumbling about clamav [05:54] twb: What's to grumble about clamav? [05:54] ScottK: I was grumbling about its resource consumption [05:55] Ah, right, well scanning stuff is resource intensive. No real way around that. [05:55] I don't actually deal with clamav, I just notice that half the servers I ssh into spend most of their CPU time running clamav [05:55] ScottK: yeah, I know [05:55] Probably the other half running SpamAssassin. [05:55] So strictly I'm grumbling because those customers have Windows machines and thus want AV scanning [05:55] Well clamav is not just for Windows anymore. [05:56] It also has anti-phishing stuff too and that's a cross-platform threat. [05:57] Shrug [06:07] OK, this is strange, why would a number of CNAMES point to the right place and one not? it seems to be pointing to the default for apache [06:08] see it at mail.snecdeaf.org but docs.snecdeaf.org works fine setup the same [06:09] they both should be pointing to ghs.google.com but the mail.snecdeaf.org which is pointed to google seems to be still point to the default apache screen [06:13] never mind it works now [07:25] how can i pipe stdin and stderr to TEE ? [07:28] clusty: in bash4, it's &| tee ... [07:28] If you're still using bash 3 (or sh), it's 2>&1 | tee ... [07:28] Note that this will unify the streams [07:28] using actually mac :D [07:28] no clue bash version [07:29] thanks [07:29] that was it [07:29] Ubuntu behaves identically on mac and whitebox hardware. [07:30] thought so [07:49] clusty: echo $BASH_VERSION # will tell you what version of bash you are running [07:49] 3.2.48 [07:49] jmarsden: what is the latest? [07:50] Let's ask uscan [07:50] more like: what version does ubuntu use? [07:50] packages.ubuntu.com/bash, then [07:50] Can't say "dpkg: -l bash" in here [07:51] http://sv.gnu.org/projects/bash, too [07:51] karmic switched to 4.05 [07:51] jaunty: 3.2.5 [07:52] there is one thing that annoys the hell out of me un Unixes: params are more rigid [07:52] rm -rf assumes -rf is another file name [07:52] only rm -rf works [07:53] That's a GNUism, just so's you know [07:53] twb: meaning? [07:54] I dunno what you mean by "un" unixes [07:54] i mean solaris and mac [07:54] AFAIK SUS 2004 doesn't require "rm foo -rf" to act like "rm -rf foo". [07:54] what i used so far currently [07:54] what is SUS? [07:54] http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ [07:55] Sorry, the latest release was 2008, not 2004 [07:55] so linux is not compliant to this standard? [07:55] clusty: it's not certified. [07:55] anyways. i do not care much about standards myself [07:55] But the problem you're having is that GNU coreutils implements MORE features than it is required to. [07:56] So when you use a non-GNU userland, the extensions you are used to aren't there. [07:56] These are thus called "gnuisms" [07:56] just need to pay attention to test my scripts properly [07:56] Writing truly portable scripts is impossible. [07:56] what about the bash smart completion thing? [07:56] That is a bashism [07:57] that is also missing under my unixes [07:57] clusty: So compile and install bash on the other unixes :) [07:57] Perhaps because your default shell is tcsh? [07:57] twb: it is bash [07:57] In OS X 10.3 or 10.4, Apple switches to bash as the default shell. [07:57] *switched [07:57] under solaris some ppl are using zsh [07:57] rather than bash [07:58] That's because they're so used to posix non-conformity, that yet another non-posix sh doesn't faze them [07:58] lool [07:58] yeah [07:58] :D [08:02] having a small messed up char problem: [08:02] svn: Can't convert string from 'UTF-8' to native encoding: [08:02] svn: Bruker_full/QSW.net/Basics/BQImages/Drivers/bou?\195?\169e.ico [08:02] they are french accented names [08:03] any clue what is the solution? [08:05] clusty: the problem is that the other guy is using ISO 8859-1 or something. [08:05] twb: how do i fix it? [08:05] mac also seems to accept it just fine [08:06] is there any way to manipulate the size of a LVM if it is mounted under /? [08:06] Force everyone to adopt UTF-8? [08:06] acalvo: sure [08:06] do I need to unmount previously the partition? [08:06] acalvo: you can grow filesystems while they're online [08:06] acalvo: you can't online shrink [08:06] and reduce? [08:06] oh... [08:06] acalvo: at least, for ext3. Other filesystems are different. [08:07] twb: i could in theory fix the file myself. how do I change the name encoding from ISO to UTF? [08:08] clusty: you go back in time and fix the other guy's OS or /etc/profile [08:08] Before he makes the file [08:08] clusty: pastebin the output of "locale" [08:09] twb: http://pastie.org/705606 [08:10] clusty: OK, it's your fault [08:10] LANG should be something like en_US.utf8 [08:10] it always is :D [08:10] how do i fix it? [08:11] aptitude install language-pack-en-us or something [08:11] I don't remember the exact Ubuntu way [08:11] any nasty side effects from this? [08:11] LANG="en_US.UTF-8" [08:12] sudo apt-get install language-pack-en [08:14] The ubuntu desktop installer will automatically install language packs based on where you tell it you are [08:15] The server one doesn't do this, I think, which I found a bit strange [08:17] twb: my locale has not changed from C [08:17] clusty: you need to log out and log in again [08:18] If you are logging in remotely, that will also affect things [08:18] did [08:18] ssh-ed again [08:18] clusty: are you running screen or similar? [08:18] twb: i have a bunch of VNC's running [08:19] do i have to kill those also? [08:19] I mean, when you close ssh and ssh in again, are you reconnecting to an existing screen session? [08:19] Or are you getting a completely new shell? [08:19] twb: no [08:19] completely new shell [08:19] new putthy [08:19] putty [08:19] You're sshing from putty? [08:19] yes [08:19] OK, I don't know if that's supposed to work. [08:20] Confirm that "locale -a" lists the en_* locales [08:20] twb: does [08:20] On Debian the place to look would be /etc/profile, but on Ubuntu I think it is /etc/environment [08:20] http://pastie.org/705617 [08:21] Or maybe I'm confused? [08:21] PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" [08:21] LANG="en_US.UTF-8" [08:21] clusty: that's in /etc/environment? [08:21] contents of /etc/environment [08:22] i suck [08:22] i had LANG=C in bashrc [08:23] now locale is fine [08:23] And this is why you don't put things in .bashrc and similar without knowing what they do [08:23] twb: i had a reason to put it there [08:24] i never put random stuff [08:24] solved my issue, thanks [08:27] hi can i build an ubuntuserver in a vertual machine? [08:32] switchgrl: sure you can [08:33] by build you mean install ? [08:33] yes [08:33] i just want to get used to the system and how it works [08:33] what virtual machine system do you use? [08:33] virtualBox? [08:33] or vmware ? [08:33] oh i am on a duelcore intel [08:33] virtualbox [08:34] i found a tutorial [08:34] perfect :D [08:34] http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/10/27/build-your-own-dev-server-with-virtualbox/ [08:34] thanks [08:34] i was searching at the same time as asking - do that sometimes [08:34] switchgrl: this is very complicated [08:34] for no reason.... [08:34] switchgrl: what OS do you run? [08:35] windows? [08:35] * switchgrl looks insulted [08:35] mac? [08:35] no [08:35] no [08:35] ubuntu [08:35] i run every version of ubuntu there has ever been [08:35] not server though [08:36] want to run a mail server [08:36] switchgrl: anyways... [08:36] Mail servers are not fun to set up [08:36] install virtual box from the ubuntu repository [08:37] and use the GUI for it [08:37] trivial and straight forward [08:37] anyways the differences between desktop and server are not that great: [08:37] different kernelk [08:37] and different choice of base packages [08:37] clusty, i was joking about being insulted [08:37] can convert one into anothjer in a jiffy [08:38] figured a much [08:38] clusty: You're forgetting the one difference that may be most important to someone who's never run ubuntu-server before [08:38] no X? :D [08:38] :D [08:38] just command line ? [08:38] which is only real way to run server [08:39] well i cannot image sime1 installing a mail server from GUI only [08:39] whixh isnt X server :) [08:39] clusty: Some day. [08:40] if using alot gedit is considered GUI then its doable [08:40] Some day it will be doable in the ubuntu world, just like the Windows world [08:41] Long story short, it's a project that I want to set up, basically [08:41] are there any 36bit servers? [08:41] wtf [08:42] flaccid: what are we "wtf"ing at? [08:42] well if you want a gui frontend for configuration thats pretty easy stuff [08:42] it was a wtf in general from above [08:42] lol, this qualifies for bash.org [08:43] lol [08:43] i find that shell scripts can do everything in this area. a gui frontend can just pass variable values to the shell script [08:43] yay i made it to bash.org [08:43] Not necessarily something to be proud of [08:44] who me or switchgrl ? [08:44] switchgrl [08:44] hehe [08:45] flaccid: what I envision is a ubuntu system that provides the ease of administration of Windows SBS [08:45] good luck, ubuntu doesn't care [08:45] they have other objectives. there is no reason to tie down your project or vision to a single immature distro.. [08:46] flaccid: I've talked to a few others who were interested in working on the project [08:46] what problems are you trying to solve specifically ? [08:46] thing is you could work on the project. good luck ubuntu wanting it. [08:47] Specifically, my goal is to help to close bug #1 [08:47] oh [08:47] FireCrotch: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out [08:47] i hope that was sarcasm [08:48] flaccid: No sarcasm. [08:48] please understand that the mainstream doesn't buy goodness, it buys marketing [08:48] but still my question remains [08:48] flaccid: You have to have something to market first. [08:48] you have not cited a specific problem to solve [08:49] linux has been trying marketing for years with a big fail [08:50] flaccid: because Linux doesn't have anything marketable. Ease of use/administration is marketable. [08:50] i tend to disagree [08:50] Are you guys actually trying to solve a problem, or are you just trolling one another? [08:50] it feels like the latter [08:51]