[00:13]  * rtagger finished thinking about grepping and finding the files - http://paste.ubuntu.com/322004/ . It looks like all server-side info gets removed when file is changed locally. So it is impossible to find out whether the file just changed or it is scheduled for upload as a new one...
[00:14]  * rtagger ok, line 44 is silly, still it works :)
[11:03] <jan____> hi? I'm running a karmic install. I installed from a preview snapshot from late october. I did a system upgrade today to get the latest things. I'm trying to investigate desktopcouch
[11:04] <jan____> I have a beam process running and listening on port 35119, but I don't get a tcp connection on that port
[11:04] <jan____> any hints on what I could be doing to solve this?
[11:05] <jan____> I also don't see any of the utility files in .local/share/*couch
[11:08] <jan____> ping joshuahoover
[11:08] <jan____> :)
[11:08] <jan____> correction! :) I can connect to the port. now it wants admin credentials.
[11:54] <tabac> Hi guys, what's'up?
[11:55] <tabac> Which protocol does UbuntuOne Files run? Is it compatible with other distributions?
[12:40] <julioneto> ...
[12:51] <facundobatista> tabac, there's this StorageProtocol proyect in Launchpad, specific for that
[12:52] <tabac> ok great! I was wondering if it would be possible to use U1 from another distribution.
[14:19] <joshuahoover> Have a question? Ping thisfred | Updated client software is now available to everyone running Ubuntu 9.10. Please run Update Manager to install it, and then restart the client. Enjoy 9.10! | https://one.ubuntu.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Current Testing Client Revno is 278, Protocol Revno is 73
[14:19] <joshuahoover> oops
[14:20] <thisfred> :)
[14:20] <thisfred> joshuahoover: I'm face, so putting my name in is fine
[14:21] <joshuahoover> :)
[14:44] <e6nian> who knows that how to set ubuntu one dir? I wanna change the default dir of ubuntu one
[14:44] <e6nian> the default dir contain \
[14:46] <e6nian> anybody here?
[14:51] <verterok> e6nian: hi
[14:52] <verterok> e6nian: changing the default dir isn't supported :/
[14:54] <e6nian> verterok: :( why and the default dir is
[14:55] <e6nian> stupid with a \
[14:55] <verterok> e6nian: the dit don't have \, that's just the way to scape te space in the terminal
[14:56] <e6nian> verterok: yep,a stupid space.
[14:56] <e6nian> verterok: can I change the source and remake this?
[14:56] <verterok> e6nian: there is a thread about that in the mailling list
[14:56] <e6nian> verterok: is ubuntuone opensource?
[14:56] <verterok> e6nian: yes, it's FLOSS
[14:57] <verterok> e6nian: do you already started using the client?
[14:57] <e6nian> verterok: :)
[14:57] <e6nian> verterok: yep
[14:58] <verterok> e6nian: it's a config value, but if you change it after running the client once, it will break it
[14:58] <verterok> e6nian: because of some metadata values where a reference to the "Ubuntu One" dir is saved
[14:58] <e6nian> verterok: I could restart the client
[14:58] <verterok> e6nian: that's not enough
[14:59] <e6nian> verterok: and restorage ...
[14:59] <verterok> e6nian: but a a lot simpler approach is to run: "ln -s UbuntuOne Ubuntu\ One"
[14:59] <verterok> :)
[15:00] <e6nian> verterok: R U the developer of ubuntut one
[15:00] <e6nian> verterok: yep, I've use that
[15:00] <verterok> e6nian: yes, I'm one of the developers
[15:02] <jblount> Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS
[15:02] <jblount> Hi everyone! To join the meeting please respond with "me". We'll be pasting our status in the format "TODO/DONE/BLOCKED"
[15:02] <jblount> me :)
[15:02] <vds> me
[15:03] <vds> teknico: ?
[15:03] <teknico> ssh
[15:03]  * jblount gets quiet at teknico 's request
[15:03] <teknico> ok, too late :-P
[15:03] <teknico> me
[15:04] <teknico> jblount, that was for vds :-)
[15:04] <jblount> teknico: ;)
[15:04] <jblount> DONE: Branch to bring the robots, branch to get validation working
[15:04] <jblount> TODO: Land three branches, get branch-in-progress (mostly lots of minor fixes, some css some copy changes) done, figure out why lp:~jblount/ubuntuone-servers/pretty-machine-names breaks a test
[15:04] <jblount> BLOCKED: Very little sleep last night, moving slow today
[15:04] <jblount> vds: Your turn!
[15:04] <vds> DONE: testing migration to funambol v8 #403431,found few problems with timestamps and authentication. Discussed with thisfred about timestamps
[15:04] <vds> TODO: continue to test migration and work with thisfred on the new timestamp implementation
[15:04] <vds> BLOCKED: nope
[15:04] <vds>  
[15:04] <vds> teknico:
[15:04] <teknico> DONE: installed Funambol 8.0 locally (#403435), done some reviews, done some face duty
[15:04] <teknico> TODO: do more reviews, do more face duty, test Funambol 8.0 with our code (#403435)
[15:04] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:04] <teknico> next: ?
[15:06] <teknico> that was for yesterday, here's today's one:
[15:06] <jblount> teknico: I think that's EOM for now. urbanape may paste his status when he looks in.
[15:06] <teknico> DONE: installed Funambol 8.0 locally (#403435), done reviews, done face duty, started testing Funambol 8.0 with our code (#403435)
[15:06] <teknico> TODO: complete testing Funambol 8.0 with our code (#403435)
[15:06] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:06] <teknico> ok
[15:55] <CardinalFang> thisfred, mandel updated that branch.  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mandel/desktopcouch/port-cannot-be-read-slow/+merge/14906
[15:56] <thisfred> CardinalFang: awesome, I'll rereview it
[16:37] <jan____> thisfred: I'm on a karmic beta image + update to latest via software updates and I don't see any couch utility files in ~/.local/share/*couch
[16:46] <thisfred> jan____: can you run the CouchDB pairing tool under applications | Internet
[16:47] <thisfred> CardinalFang: is that the proper way to initialize desktopcouch?
[16:47] <CardinalFang> "initialize?"
[16:48] <jan____> thisfred: I don't have a "cocuhdb pairing tool" under applications | internet
[16:49] <thisfred> jan____: ah. Perhaps you will need to install desktopcouch then. The beta image might not have had it by default
[16:49] <jan____> I ran software update
[16:50] <jan____> I'd assume it'd give me a current karmic
[16:50] <thisfred> jan____: software update won't install new packages, I think
[16:50] <thisfred> can you apt-get install python-desktopcouch-records
[16:51] <jan____> synaptic says it is installed
[16:51] <jan____> I'll resinstall
[16:51] <thisfred> ah
[16:51] <thisfred> that is weird. Perhaps there is a different top level package
[16:52] <thisfred> I have:
[16:52] <thisfred> $ sudo aptitude search desktopcouch
[16:52] <thisfred> [sudo] password for eric:
[16:52] <thisfred> i A desktopcouch                                                                                                  - A Desktop CouchDB instance
[16:52] <thisfred> i   desktopcouch-tools                                                                                            - Desktop CouchDB tools
[16:52] <thisfred> i A python-desktopcouch                                                                                           - Python Desktop CouchDB
[16:52] <CardinalFang> jan____, thisfred, "desktopcouch-pair" is in package "desktopcouch-tools."
[16:52] <thisfred> i   python-desktopcouch-records                                                                                   - Desktop CouchDB Records API
[16:52] <thisfred> CardinalFang: how does a user initialize their desktopcouch?
[16:52] <CardinalFang> thisfred, they just use it.
[16:52] <thisfred> just by running something that uses it?
[16:52] <thisfred> ah ok
[16:52] <jan____> thanks
[16:53] <thisfred> CardinalFang: but pairing does it too, right? If you have no other software that uses d-c?
[16:56] <jan____> still no "link to futon" in my .local/share/couchdb folder (in fact there is no such folder)
[17:01] <thisfred> hmmm
[17:02] <thisfred> CardinalFang: any ideas? ^^
[17:04] <rtagger> jan____: do you have any running process called beam / beam.smp with arguments similar to ... /lib/couchdb/erlang/lib/couch-0.10.0/ebin ... ?
[17:08] <jan____> http://friendpaste.com/oOCzKQCRiLOn3rXBakmi7
[17:08] <jan____> rtagger:
[17:10] <rtagger> jan____: Okay, now cat /home/jan/.config/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.ini | grep database
[17:14] <jan____> there is no desktop-couchdb.ini
[17:14] <jan____> oh wait
[17:14] <jan____> in .config
[17:14] <jan____> hold on
[17:15] <jan____> database_dir = /home/jan/.local/share/desktop-couch
[17:16] <rtagger> jan____: Okay, so if there are no files, then... Have you started using ubuntuone or you want to try couchdb not tied to ubuntuone?
[17:17] <jan____> there are database files in there, but not the pid file and stuff.
[17:17]  * rtagger wonders why Empathy dislikes jan____'s nick, no autocompletion...
[17:17] <jan____> I do use ubuntuone and I want to explore desktopcouch
[17:17] <jan____> (I'm a couchdb dev fwiw)
[17:20] <rtagger> jan____: In case /home/jan/.cache/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.pid contains no pid then desktopcouch will not be able to find out where to connect to, are you using Evolution-couchdb? Maybe it will be easier to kill the process, check directory permissions and start it again... Though I am not sure how it could really start w/o pidfile.
[17:21] <thisfred> jan____: unfortunately all the desktopcouch people are at UDS in Dallas right now, and I keep forgetting how to kick this off properly
[17:21] <jan____> not using evolution couchdb
[17:21] <jan____> :)
[17:21] <jan____> no hurries
[17:23] <rtagger> jan____: /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-stop
[17:24] <rtagger> jan____: Then /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service to start it again...
[17:24] <thisfred> rtagger: ah right, that's it
[17:24] <thisfred> why those are in lib and not in bin is not clear to me
[17:26] <jan____> the service script is faulty. it starts couchdb and then says "waiting for couchdb to start"
[17:26] <jan____> forever
[17:26] <jan____> couchdb is started tho
[17:26] <thisfred> I believe there is a bug for that, and a fix coming up
[17:26]  * rtagger is happy because couchdb rewrote desktop-couch.html properly and I can access futon right away, does not happen on every system login, though...
[17:27] <jan____> doing the shuffle again works
[17:27] <jan____> wwww00000000t
[17:27] <jan____> works
[17:27] <jan____> awesome
[17:27] <thisfred> yay :)
[17:27] <jan____> this kicks ass.
[17:29] <rtagger> jan____: I suspect this to be non-reproducible :(... Have you got the PID file?
[17:30] <jan____> rtagger: it all looks as expeted
[17:31] <jan____> +c
[17:34] <rtagger> waiting for couchdb to start simply means that we are waiting for the pid file to appear and check that this is pid of couchdb erlang process... So if couchdb does not create a pid file, then... basically we'll wait for 5 minutes and then... he-he, and then return None :/
[17:35] <jan____> :)
[19:21] <thisfred> back
[20:14] <statik> "CouchDB is clearly getting substantial buy-in from major players in the desktop Linux ecosystem and a lot of existing frameworks can be adapted to interoperate with it. I strongly suspect that we will see a lot more activity, and possibly serious convergence, around CouchDB in the future."
[20:19] <statik> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2009/11/good-karma-ars-reviews-ubuntu-910.ars/7
[23:38] <mrooney> hey, I'm really enjoying U1 but getting way too many notifications, can I a) disable them or b) run just the sync daemon?
[23:58] <statik> mrooney, someone contributed a patch yesterday to add an option to disable notifications
[23:58] <statik> so one day soon you'll be able to turn them off