[00:00] <Zeikfried> Wtf is CPU scaling?
[00:01] <sithlord48> when u cpu changes speed based on its power state
[00:01] <Zeikfried> Ahh.
[00:01] <Zeikfried> Well, lemme change my question a bit.
[00:01] <Zeikfried> I have teh Gnome Power Manager installed from doing apt-get ubuntu-desktop.
[00:01] <BluesKaj> ondemand and performance are the steps I use
[00:02] <Zeikfried> Would i be able to remove teh Gnome Power Manager, and use the KDE version instead?
[00:02] <sithlord48> yea
[00:02] <maco> powerdevil should control things while youre in kde
[00:02] <maco> even if g-p-m is installed. that should only be active when youre in gnome
[00:03] <Zeikfried> Well, the reason i want to remove it is because i use gnome for gaming, but i get the image of my mouse cursor in the middle of teh screen, and it is caused by the power manager.
[00:05] <Zeikfried> Other than the fact that i killed out Kwin and use Compiz and Emerald for compositing in my KDE setup, everything runs great.
[00:05] <Zeikfried> Just cant game in it.
[00:11] <Zeikfried> Need a copy of ubuntu-tweak designed for KDE....
[00:13] <zed_> okay... can someone help me get java/flash up and runing on a fresh install of kubuntu KK?
[00:18] <zed_> guess not
[00:18] <Zeikfried> Is there an opensource gaming channel?
[00:18] <zed_> no flash or java makes the baby jesus cry
[00:18] <Zeikfried> zed_ You should be able to download the flash software from adobes website.
[00:18] <zed_> tried that
[00:19] <Zeikfried> java though, i have no clue on that one.
[00:19] <Zeikfried> Look in your package manager for an option to install flash non free.
[00:19] <zed_> tried that too
[00:19] <zed_> it says it installed
[00:19] <zed_> but doesn't work
[00:19] <Zeikfried> What browser are you using?
[00:19] <zed_> also, the same exact java update keeps popping up
[00:19] <zed_> firefox
[00:20] <zed_> even though I approve the update, it keeps coming back
[00:20] <Zeikfried> Go to the addond section for firefox and install the java and flash addons.
[00:20] <zed_> I'll try that
[00:20] <Zeikfried> They have a set of addons that are integrated into teh browser.
[00:20] <Zeikfried> You just have to install them.
[00:21] <Walzmyn> zed are you on a 64bit system?
[00:24] <Walzmyn> If you right click on a downloaded item in firefox and select "open containing folder", you get a dialog asking what app should it use - How do I fix that?
[00:24] <zed_> no, a very old 32 bit desktop
[00:25] <Zeikfried> Are you trying to open a .rar file?
[00:25] <Walzmyn> zed_: ok. There's an issue with 64bit, ya gotta get the right package to install
[00:25] <zed_> I'm downloading java directly from the website now
[00:26] <zed_> I don't understand why installing the restricted package suite from the command line didn't work
[00:26] <zed_> and I couldn't get passed the java EULA
[00:26] <zed_> no obvious way to accept the EULA
[00:27] <zed_> I checked the firefox add-ons, I couldn't find one that installed java directly.. they were all appz to do things like debug java or turn it off ect.
[00:27] <Zeikfried> Hmm.
[00:28] <Zeikfried> I dont even think i have java now that i think about it. o.o
[00:28] <zed_> lol
[00:28] <Zeikfried> Oh, yep, i do have it.
[00:28] <Zeikfried> And i just read it, i am using shockwaves version of flash.
[00:29] <zed_> java package from the java website is done
[00:29] <zed_> I will try to install this one
[00:29] <zed_> be back
[00:29] <Zeikfried> Which is odd, because i installed the package from adobe.
[00:29] <zed_> isn't shockwave a adobe product?
[00:30] <Zeikfried> I believe so.
[00:30] <Zeikfried> But it says i have   Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[00:32] <Zeikfried> Was production of Afterfall discontinued?
[00:34] <zed_> now I'm having more issues
[00:34] <zed_> terminal refuses to let me login as superuser
[00:34] <zed_> arghh
[00:34] <zed_> maybe windows is better
[00:34] <zed_> lol
[00:36] <Zeikfried> Could be 9.10 giving you issues.
[00:40] <zed_> yeah
[00:40] <zed_> I didn't have these problems with jackalope
[00:40] <zed_> but koala has been fighting me
[00:41] <zed_> lol, someone just joined with the name "zed_is_a_good_boy"
[00:50] <Zeikfried> I just stick with Intrepid.
[00:51] <Zeikfried> I have it almost bug free so far.
[00:52] <Zeikfried> Only thing i know if that crashes the system is clicking on a file to rename it, and while teh text is highlighted to be renamed, right click again and hit copy to copy teh text you are about to change.
[00:52] <Zeikfried> Last time i did that i had to reinstall my whole setup.
[01:14] <bamaman> Hi
[01:15] <bamaman> Testing out kubuntu. never used it before. have only used ubuntu.. seems a lot different.
[01:19] <CoverSlide> not much different
[01:20] <CoverSlide> plus you can still run gtk programs
[01:24] <brmassa> guys, is there a GUI for managing SSH and GPG keys?
[02:06] <roberto__> hello
[02:07] <lovre> hi can i remove all files within a folder structure named 'file.ext'.. I tried this, but it is not working: find | grep 'file.ext' | rm   .....says that rm is missing an operand, so i suppose it cant except piped ones..
[02:08] <roberto__> i need to know if there any software pc to phone call for fre on linux?
[02:13] <Roasted> Guys - question - this may be kind of stupid but I'm just learning KDE as I've been a gnome user for 4 years. If I'm installing something and I need to enter the ppa line in sources.list and edit it to match my linux version, do I put ubuntu jaunty, or do I put kubuntu jaunty?
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> Roasted: the ppa lines are identical for ubuntu and kubuntu
[02:15] <Roasted> jontheechidna - so if I n eed to add this ppa and edit it, what do I use on my kubuntu machine? If I put kubuntu jaunty will it auto detect and know what Im doing?
[02:16] <JontheEchidna> kdesudo software-properties-kde
[02:16] <JontheEchidna> then add the ppa line in the "other software" tab
[02:17] <Roasted> but what Im saying is, the ppa line says "enter ubuntu version here"
[02:17] <Roasted> Im using kubuntu jaunty
[02:18] <Roasted> do I put kubuntu jaunty, or ubuntu jaunty
[02:18] <Roasted> cause Ive just NEVER seen an example with kubuntu in the ppa line
[02:18] <Roey> HA
[02:19] <Roey> JontheEchidna, Roasted:  HA! I read your nicks as RoastedEchidna
[02:24] <JontheEchidna> oops, he left
[02:46] <Roasted> hi guys - I added a dock on my KDE machine, with the KDE panel at the top of the screen to resemble my gnome roots as best as possible and the dock at the bottom. How do I take away the panel functionality to show open windows? I want the dock to handle that.
[04:11] <Lindows> not sure if this is the correct channel, but I mount a network drive and it appears kubuntu is attempting to mount the network drive before the network is up (or I'm even logged in).  Anyway to tell it to wait?
[04:17] <Viking667> hello there. I've got a question I don't know how to answer. I'm looking for a GUI process browser, much like SysInternal's Process Explorer. What is available in kubuntu? (Koala)
[04:18] <Rexelone> Hi I'm new too but if i'm not wrong its called system monitor under system folder
[04:21] <Lindows> viking667: have you tried system monitor?
[04:22] <iconmefisto> trying to mount nfs, I get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting
[04:22] <Viking667> I'll look for that. I'm currently ssh'd into the machine with a combination of top and pstree, trying to figure out why the machine's spinning its wheels.
[04:23] <Viking667> Note to the wise: Kubuntu and 384Mb don't make a good match.
[04:23] <Lindows> iconmefisto: do you have the package smbfs installed? sudo aptitude install smbfs
[04:23] <Viking667> I already tried fitting another 256Mb stick to the motherboard, but the motherboard doesn't like the stick I tried.
[04:23] <iconmefisto> Lindows: nfs not samba
[04:25] <iconmefisto> Lindows: but yes, I do have smbfs installed
[04:26] <Lindows> iconmefisto: I'm not terribly familiar with nfs, I use samba.  The only thing I can think of is 1) making sure the information is correct 2) restarting the service to make sure it's update with the new information
[04:29] <flanders> Is it possible to automatically split audio tracks in K3B by certain intervals (every X seconds) or into a specific number of parts?
[04:30] <flanders> I know it can be done in Brasero (for GNOME), but I can only find an option to split tracks manually with K3B, not automatically?
[05:04] <luis_> hello guys good night to you all i just install kubuntu 9.10 and also installed wicd but it wont connect to mmy wired interface can somebody help me pls??
[05:10] <luis_> it got worst now it wont start wicd
[05:10] <luis_> not even when i type wicd on terminal
[05:11] <bazhang> luis_, what does ifconfig show in the konsole? eth0 ?
[05:12] <luis_> lets see
[05:13] <luis_> it shows link ancap: bucle local
[05:13] <luis_> direc. inet6: ::1/128
[05:14] <bazhang> luis_, please paste.ubuntu.com with the output from ifconfig and lspci
[05:14] <luis_> activo loopback funcionando mtu 16436
[05:14] <luis_> its not in my pc
[05:14] <luis_> its on my laptop
[05:14] <luis_> i cannot connect my laptop to internet
[05:15] <bazhang> luis_, do you have an ethernet cable attached to it
[05:15] <luis_> yes
[05:15] <bazhang> luis_, sudo ifup eth0  <-- in konsole
[05:15] <luis_> it was fine but after installing it i restart it and stop working
[05:15] <luis_> ok
[05:16] <iconmefisto> luis_: any reason why you need wicd?
[05:17] <luis_> it saids : --in no file or directorie
[05:17] <luis_> yes wicd connects woth out any problem to wireless interfaces
[05:17] <luis_> in here i got not wireless interfaces but i do at work
[05:18] <luis_> here is what i did
[05:18] <luis_> after trying
[05:19] <luis_> i right click ont wicd icon and click on quit
[05:19] <iconmefisto> luis_: I think you may have pasted too much of bazhang's command. don't paste the <-- in konsole part
[05:19] <luis_> and now it wont show icon and also wont start
[05:19] <luis_> so what do i do?
[05:19] <bazhang> luis_, try again from the konsole
[05:20] <luis_> what do i type?
[05:20] <iconmefisto> luis_:  just this: sudo ifup eth0
[05:20] <luis_> ok
[05:20] <bazhang> sudo ifup eth0
[05:20] <bazhang> nothing more :)
[05:21] <luis_> it says: ignoring unkown interface eth0=eth0.
[05:23] <iconmefisto> luis_: ctrl+esc and search to see if wicd is still running
[05:24] <luis_> do i exit from konsole first?
[05:24] <iconmefisto> no need
[05:24] <luis_> ok
[05:25] <iconmefisto> luis_: also, how did you try restarting wicd? I think the command for the systray widget is wicd-client
[05:25] <luis_> it doesnt even appear in there
[05:27] <luis_> i just did that wicd.client
[05:27] <luis_> and it says that wicd daemon is shutting down
[05:28] <luis_> at the end says: nameerror: global name pynotify is not definied
[05:30] <iconmefisto> luis_: if you do this in konsole:   sudo lshw -C network   does it show you a ethernet interface?
[05:30] <luis_> lets see
[05:32] <luis_> it has a lot of stuff
[05:32] <luis_> wireless inrterface
[05:33] <luis_> and the name of the hardware i think
[05:33] <luis_> and also says network disabled
[05:33] <luis_> wireless=unassociated
[05:34] <luis_> also ethernet interface
[05:34] <luis_> network disabled
[05:34] <Claw6> hey guys every time i reboot my composite is turned off. I have added Option Composite Enable to the xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1678930 wheres the problem ? wrong formated ?
[05:34] <iconmefisto> what's the "logical name" of the disabled one?
[05:35] <luis_> let me see if i can copy that into my usb device so u can c it
[05:37] <luis_> almost done
[05:39] <luis_> http://pastebin.com/m39eddb1a
[05:39] <luis_> there it is
[05:40] <luis_> can you see it?
[05:45] <iconmefisto> luis_: can you try      sudo ifup eth0    again?  make sure eth0 you type a zero, not uppercase o
[05:45] <luis_> ok
[05:47] <luis_> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[05:47] <iconmefisto> hmm
[05:48] <iconmefisto> luis_: do this: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[05:49] <luis_> ok
[05:49] <iconmefisto> do you see eth0 anywhere in that file?
[05:50] <luis_> cat/etc/network/interfaces: no such file or directory
[05:50] <iconmefisto> space after "cat"
[05:50] <luis_> upps
[05:51] <luis_> auto lo
[05:51] <luis_> iface lo inet loopback
[05:52] <iconmefisto> try editing that file with this command: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[05:53] <luis_> ok
[05:53] <iconmefisto> add eth0 to the end of the "auto" line so it says   auto lo eth0
[05:53] <luis_> ok i am in there what do i do?
[05:53] <iconmefisto> remember it's a zero not the letter o
[05:54] <luis_> ok so i have to replace iface lo inet loopback?
[05:54] <luis_> and type eth0 instead right?
[05:55] <iconmefisto> and also add a new line: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:55] <iconmefisto> oh wait
[05:55] <luis_> ok
[05:55] <iconmefisto> don't replace anything
[05:56] <shahalom> ok, retard here
[05:56] <iconmefisto> just add eth0 to the end of the line that starts with auto
[05:56] <shahalom> boxee is drawing a blank
[05:56] <shahalom> integrated intel video card, just upgraded to karmic
[05:57] <iconmefisto> luis_: and add a new line that says:  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:57] <shahalom> now boxee is totally blank, no erros when running, no proprietary drivers listed
[05:57] <luis_> ok
[05:57] <shahalom> i would just like to know how to troubleshoot
[05:58] <shahalom> or advice even
[05:59] <luis_> ok done
[05:59] <luis_> now how do i save those changes?
[06:00] <iconmefisto> luis_: ctrl+X to exit, and it will ask you if you want to keep changes
[06:00] <luis_> ok
[06:00] <intruder> i just freshly reinstalled kubuntu 9.10 and now usb device notification does not work anymore, but CD notification does. I restarted udev & hal but still nothing... is this a newly introduced bug ?
[06:00] <iconmefisto> answer yes to keep changes, and then enter when you see the filename /etc/network/interfaces
[06:01] <intruder> can't find any info on it
[06:01] <intruder> except one that doesnt work
[06:02] <Claw6> hey guys every time i reboot my composite is turned off. I have added Option Composite Enable to the xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1678930 wheres the problem ? wrong formated ?
[06:04] <luis_> it keeps asking me if i want to save the faile with a different name and it wont let me type no or yes either
[06:06] <iconmefisto> luis_: I don't know what's wrong. do you want to start again?
[06:06] <luis_> wait
[06:06] <luis_> i'll let you now i just rstart the laptop
[06:09] <iconmefisto> luis_: so what happened? did you save those edits or not?
[06:10] <luis_> i just notice everytime i restart the laptop whne it start appears a little window that is asking me for passwor for wicd it says wicd needs acces to your computers network cards and it has belo order: /usr/bin/wicd
[06:10] <luis_> let me start over again
[06:11] <luis_> ok
[06:11] <iconmefisto> luis_: so you didn't save the edits?
[06:11] <luis_> they are saved
[06:11] <iconmefisto> just to make sure, do this in konsole to see what the file looks like now: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[06:12] <luis_> it says: auto lo eth0
[06:12] <luis_> iface lo inet loopback
[06:13] <luis_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:13] <iconmefisto> luis_: ok good. so you restarted the laptop?
[06:13] <luis_> yes
[06:14] <iconmefisto> luis_: in konsole, do this to see if eth0 is up and running: ifconfig
[06:17] <luis_> http://pastebin.com/m61f4c932
[06:17] <luis_> thats what i got
[06:19] <iconmefisto> luis_: ok that looks good now. you've got eth0 working
[06:19] <iconmefisto> is wicd running?
[06:19] <luis_> no
[06:20] <luis_> let me paste bin it
[06:20] <iconmefisto> ok, let's test your internet connection first. in konsole: ping google.com
[06:21] <luis_> typing: ping google.com says: unknown host google.com
[06:22] <iconmefisto> ok, no connection then
[06:23] <luis_> http://pastebin.com/m299b2d6f
[06:25] <luis_> if i type wicd-client or click om wicd i got: Could not connetc to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages
[06:26] <iconmefisto> luis_: look at this page: http://www.go2linux.org/ERROR-dbus-proxies-Introspect-error-exception-org-freedesktop-wicd
[06:27] <iconmefisto> try the command shown there and see if it fixes it
[06:29] <luis_> i did inot command usermode found
[06:30] <iconmefisto> usermod
[06:31] <luis_> God
[06:31] <iconmefisto> usermod -a -G netdev mar     (if "mar" is you username on the laptop)
[06:32] <luis_> it says: usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[06:36] <iconmefisto> luis_: try the same command with             sudo usermod
[06:36] <luis_> ok
[06:36] <greghaynes> Hello all, Im trying to get nvidia drivers working on my new 9.10 install but its not working.  I installed nvidia-glx-180 using KPackageManager and rebooted but they are not working.  Ideas?
[06:37] <luis_> nothing happened
[06:37] <iconmefisto> luis_: no error message?
[06:37] <luis_> nop
[06:37] <luis_> nothing at all
[06:38] <iconmefisto> ok, that means all is good
[06:38] <iconmefisto> what's wicd doing now?
[06:38] <luis_> its doing nothing
[06:39] <luis_> it just wont start
[06:39] <luis_> heres what i got
[06:41] <luis_> http://pastebin.com/m749e1e03
[06:42] <iconmefisto> ok so it's not running? try to start it now
[06:43] <iconmefisto> wait
[06:44] <iconmefisto> you should type "exit" if you still see root@Enrique-Omar:/home/omar# in konsole
[06:44] <luis_> i did already
[06:44] <iconmefisto> ok
[06:44] <iconmefisto> wicd-client
[06:44] <iconmefisto> same error?
[07:26] <vano> hi
[07:48] <Finswimmer> Hello, I have Kubuntu 8.10, when I execute update-notifier-kde -u I only get offered 9.04
[07:48] <Finswimmer> But I want upgrade directly to 9.10, or is this not possible?
[07:49] <Viking667> hey, how do I stop akonadi from starting up? It's creating really REALLY large files on my /home partition, and I'd like to knock it on the head.
[07:50] <avihay> Finswimmer: upgrade to the latest version is only suported from the previous version and the last LTS version
[07:56] <winblu> ciao
[07:56] <winblu> !lista
[07:56] <Finswimmer> avihay: So I have to do 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10
[07:57] <avihay> ya, not fun
[07:57] <Finswimmer> heavy...I only have 1k DSL ;)
[07:57] <Finswimmer> avihay: Cant I just install the "basic" system without KDE? Or something like that
[07:58] <avihay> well, I don't know, maybe you can download the alternate-cd, and use it's upgrade script to upgrade directly. I din't know if it works
[07:59] <avihay> thats a broad question and I don't know how to answer it
[08:02] <Viking667> meh. I'll have to depart to sort this out... turns out it wasn't probably akonadi after all.
[08:02] <Viking667> something was dying in great numbers, and spamming .xsession-errors, creating a 2GB file before it finished.
[08:06] <Finswimmer> avihay: Anyway. I will do it step by step. Thank you very much for your help!
[08:14] <yamokidzu-it> HELLo
[08:15] <bigbrovar> yamokidzu-it: yo
[08:15] <arthurminakov> hi
[08:16] <arthurminakov> how can I fix problem with amarok, that show incorrect ID3 artists tags on collections? :)
[08:20] <arthurminakov> kubuntu karmic with last updates
[08:34] <nazgul> ludi, podskazhite pozhalujsta russkij server
[08:39] <arthurminakov> какой такой?
[08:49] <nazgul> ну это англоязычный сервер, а русский есть вообще?
[08:50] <amichair> !ru | nazgul
[09:17] <ailleantsian> was wondering if someone is able to help me with a graphics issue
[09:35] <Hans_Henrik> "dont ask if you can ask, just ask" (or something like that)
[09:36] <Hans_Henrik> just ask your question and wait for som1 to reply
[09:51] <avihay> umm has anyone noticed Amarok acting wird? once in a while I notice that all the files from one of the folders I added to my playlist is missing. annoying as hell
[10:43] <venik> how do i launch the KDE menu (kickoff) from the command line?
[10:44] <iconmefisto_> I get this error when I try mounting a remote directory with nfs: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting. I  also cannot ping this machine from the remote machine
[10:45] <Lindows> iconmefisto: sounds like you are behind a firewall
[10:45] <venik> doe anyone else find 9.10 to be sluggish, prone o freezing, and in general a step backwards?
[10:45] <Lindows> venik: not sluggish, but error prone
[10:46] <Lindows> venik: I've had problems with it mounting cifs shares before the network comes up, so it'll free
[10:46] <Lindows> freeze*
[10:46] <venik> I use occasionally an older machine with 6.06 and it is much nappier
[10:46] <Lindows> always fun...then I have to dpkg-reconfigure kdm so I can even log in via the gui..
[10:47] <venik> snappier
[10:47] <iconmefisto_> Lindows: I can ping in one direction but not the other
[10:47] <Lindows> venik: well, there was an interesting piece where Linus basically stated that linux is bloated....they've measured a 2% decrease in performance in the kernel ever release, heh
[10:47] <venik> so how do I start the KDE menu from the comman line?
[10:48] <iconmefisto_> venik: do you mean you don't see kickoff?
[10:48] <Lindows> iconmefisto: it means the direction you can't, the machine is probably behind a firewall.  I don't know what the default rules are for ufw
[10:48] <venik> maybe cccchrome OS will be better, at least initially
[10:48] <Mamarok> Lindows: discussions should go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <Mamarok> venik: ^^ see above
[10:49] <venik> until it bloats too
[10:49] <Mamarok> venik: please, support only here
[10:49] <venik> but I was getting none...
[10:49] <rafytafy> did they start with Alpha kubuntu 10.4 yet?
[10:49] <Lindows> iconmefisto: what does "sudo ufw status" print?
[10:49] <Mamarok> !patience | venik
[10:50] <iconmefisto_> Lindows: just to be clear, do you mean if A can't ping B, but B can ping A, then B is behind a firewall?
[10:52] <Lindows> iconmefisto: that B is ignoring ICMP ECHO requests....
[10:52] <Lindows> iconmefisto: which usually means a firewall is filtering them
[10:53] <iconmefisto_> Lindows: ufw is inactive on both
[10:53] <Lindows> iconmefisto: how is your network configured?
[10:53] <venik> Can I start the KDE menu from the comman line?
[10:53] <iconmefisto_> Lindows: I think it's probably a router config problem
[10:54] <venik> I log on from another machine using x-win-32, so I get only the terminal
[10:54] <Lindows> venik: ::shrug:: startx ?
[10:55] <venik> can u be a little more vague?
[10:55] <iconmefisto_> venik: no desktop?
[10:55] <venik> no gui-- just konsole
[10:55] <venik> but I can run any program if I know its name
[10:55] <iconmefisto_> venik: well how can you use kickoff without a desktop?
[10:56] <venik> so I wanted to invoke the KDE start menu from the konsole
[10:56] <iconmefisto_> venik: you can't run a gui program without a gui
[10:57] <venik> I can start Lyx, for instance, or dolphin, and they work fine from the konsole
[10:57] <iconmefisto_> venik: also, kickoff is a widget that goes on the kde panel
[10:57] <venik> since the menu is just a program, I thought I could run it as well
[10:57] <iconmefisto_> venik: dolphin ??
[10:58] <llutz> venik: for doing that, you'll need a xserver running on your windows
[10:58] <venik> the file manager of KDE
[10:58] <iconmefisto_> venik: yes, I know, but if you have no gui, where does dolphin appear?
[10:58] <llutz> venik: you may want to read about the difference "x-applications" and "terminal-apps"
[11:00] <iconmefisto_> venik: also, you say you are running it from konsole. is it really konsole? is konsole in a window?
[11:00] <venik> it appears EXACTLY as it does when I have the desktop, but no desktop
[11:00] <llutz> venik: try "startkde"
[11:00] <iconmefisto_> venik: sounds like you have some sort of desktop running
[11:00] <venik> it says bash on the window title
[11:01] <iconmefisto_> venik: so you see a window?
[11:01] <iconmefisto_> venik: is there a panel?
[11:03] <llutz> venik: http://www.starnet.com/support/documentation.php
[11:03] <venik> startkde was good, but it is painfully slow that way
[11:04] <llutz> sure it is, using remote-X this way always is
[11:05] <iconmefisto_> ahh, remote
[11:08] <venik> is there a way to login remotely and still have a usable desktop?
[11:09] <venik> such as I get with Wwindows RDP?
[11:09] <llutz> venik: depends on your bandwidth, vnc/nx
[11:09] <venik> NX is so slow that I gave up on it
[11:10] <venik> VNC is not really better
[11:10] <venik> I am forced by security to log in through vpn
[11:10] <venik> to a WINDOWS machine, from which I have to log on to my kubuntu machine
[11:10] <venik> ;-(
[11:12] <Lindows> venik: I think the slow down is the extra level of indirection
[11:13] <venik> u r probably right
[11:13] <venik> but they do noot unnderstand it, and support only Windows
[11:14] <venik> if I couuld log onn to my kubuntu machine life would be  much simpler, and more efficient
[11:14] <venik> anyway, thanks
[11:15] <llutz> exporting whole desktop never is efficient (imho)
[11:16] <Guest27292> buon giorno a tutti
[11:18] <Guest27292> c'è qualche anima pia che mi indica come installare scanner hp 2400 grazie
[11:18] <llutz> !it | Guest27292
[11:18] <Guest27292> ok
[11:46] <dodger> how can i install wine in kubuntu
[11:48] <tsimpson> dodger: install the package named "wine"
[12:40] <drostie> okay, here goes the 9.04 - 9.10 upgrade...
[12:40]  * drostie crosses his fingers.
[12:42] <Tm_T> drostie: toes too
[12:51] <Threepwood> hi, anyone got the screensavers from "rss-glx" running @ ubuntu 9.10 ?
[12:52] <Peace-> sorry i don't use screensaver
[12:52] <Threepwood> :)
[13:05] <wrgb> I have installed a new theme from Desktop Settings > New Theme, but I don't know how to apply it. It doesn't show in my dropdown list of themes -- there's just the two default ones
[13:26] <ahmedtaufiq> I would like to thanks to kubuntu team for sending cd free of cost to my doorstep
[13:26] <ahmedtaufiq> Long Live Kubuntu
[13:29] <Fusion> test
[13:30] <ahmedtaufiq> is there any powerfull html editor like dreamweaver for the kubuntu enviroment
[13:30] <ahmedtaufiq> ??
[13:30] <tsimpson> !html
[13:31] <tsimpson> try one of those
[13:31] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[13:33] <ahmedtaufiq> from where i can install them ?
[13:33] <ahmedtaufiq> any website link ?
[13:33] <bazhang> ahmedtaufiq, from the ubuntu software repositories
[13:34] <ahmedtaufiq> ?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> !repository
[13:39] <apparle> hello guys
[13:39] <apparle> how to change the splash screen at the boot time
[13:39] <Peace-> apparle: mmm you mean what?
[13:40] <Peace-> systemsettings and that stuff?
[13:40] <tsimpson> !usplash
[13:40] <BluesKaj> apparle, wwwkde-look.org and download the splash screens you like
[13:40] <tsimpson> boot != login
[13:40] <Blues-Man> hi guys
[13:40] <BluesKaj> apparle,www.kde-look.org
[13:41] <Blues-Man> i m on kubuntu karmic 2.6.31-kernel.org I have a problem with chromium and vlc audio after installing pidgin + extras for xmmp voice
[13:41] <Blues-Man> I cannot hear any audio from youtube, only kde stuff as amarok
[13:41] <Blues-Man> i read about pulseaudio but not understood how to do in order to hear audio again from youtube or vlc
[13:47] <apparle> hi guys
[13:47] <apparle>  how to change the splash screen
[13:47] <saa5> Some days after reinstalling karmic I think I have now installed the most important packages. How can I find out, which ones these are (for the installation on another laptop)?
[13:48] <saa5> I mean, only those packages that I have selected (without the dependencies)
[13:49] <apparle> !splash
[13:50] <apparle> Hey I can find any splash screen option
[13:51] <vbgunz> I am on Kubuntu 9.10 and it has been months since I've seen a notification to reboot or updates to installed software... I think that particular notification is broken on my system or disabled. what am I looking for?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, open a terminal : sudo apt-get update
[13:59] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, it's the best and easiest way to update your installed packages
[13:59] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: I've been doing this for months. I no longer get update or reboot notifications. I just checked notifications and I believe it is KPackageKit responsible for this. none of the options are disabled. I have update and reboot required options checked *but* never see them anymore :(
[14:00] <vbgunz> is there a way to test kpackagekit notifications?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> using apt-get ?
[14:01] <vbgunz> no, apt-get is fine, it works as far as I can tell. I am talking about the notifications in the system tray. they're not disabled nor hidden and I simply never see them anymore
[14:01] <vbgunz> I see notifications yes, but I haven't seen a notification for updates or reboots and *yet* many updates and required reboots have gone by
[14:02] <vbgunz> other than this, Kubuntu is a champ at everything else
[14:02] <BluesKaj> well, when you apt-get update , apt looks at your installed packages and sees whether or not there are updates in the repos , the same as any package manager with notification does
[14:04] <vbgunz> yeah I just had about 15 updates. if I log into the tty 1-6 and haven't upgraded, I see them there.. I just remember doing a sudo apt-get update used to cause the package manager notification to say "hey you have x amount of updates" . this use to happen immediately. not it never happens anymore
[14:06] <vbgunz> hmm just found a post about this I think
[14:06] <apparle> how to edit the xsplash in kubuntu
[14:06] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, that's due to the fact that you have the official release installed and there are fewer updates than there were in alpha and beta phases and maybe your notifier is turned off
[14:06] <apparle> !xsplash
[14:08] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, you notifier doesn't do anything better than apt-get does, it's just gui linked to apt anyway
[14:08] <apparle> !grub
[14:10] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: I have no problem doing apt-get, but after these updates, it hit me. I used to be notified of updates before but no more. anyhow. many times I had to reboot the system but the notification would fail to tell me that too
[14:11] <vbgunz> it's all good I suppose, I'll just apt-get update and reboot when I get the chance though I would really like to be told about the reboot issue without guessing about it :(
[14:12] <Smurphy> vbgunz: You only have to reboot if kernel is change drastically. else - a reboot is often not required. remember - this is no Windows Systme.
[14:13] <Smurphy> vbgunz: If you need to reboot - the system will tell you !
[14:13] <BluesKaj> no need to reboot ,after updating vbgunz , this isn't windows
[14:13] <Smurphy> *lol*
[14:13] <BluesKaj> hehe
[14:13] <vbgunz> Smurphy: haha, yeah, no joke. but how do I know when I need to reboot?
[14:14] <bazhang> vbgunz, the system will tell you
[14:14] <vbgunz> my upgrade from 9.04 alpha to 9.10 involved many reboots and I never got a single notification
[14:14] <Smurphy> vbgunz: You'll have the porange reboot button showing up in the Panel...
[14:14] <Smurphy> vbgunz: My upgrade from 9.04 did require only 1 reboot ... for the kernel :)
[14:15] <vbgunz> I just don't think my notifications around updating and rebooting are working. it seems a post mentions this exact issue but I don't think there is a fix for it now
[14:15] <crissi_> ok.. so.. i have no sound.
[14:15] <crissi_> clean install for 9.10
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, there are somenon kernel reboots that are required without notification , like after a purge
[14:15] <crissi_> already rf -rm ~/.pulse
[14:16] <crissi_> and rebooted
[14:16] <crissi_> and added user
[14:16] <crissi_> etc.
[14:16] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: usually the notification shows up.
[14:16] <crissi_> any ideas?
[14:16] <Smurphy> crissi_: Checked the Mixer settings ?
[14:16] <crissi_> everything is unmuted and up
[14:16] <BluesKaj> I haven't seen them
[14:17] <crissi_> everything is plugged in correctly
[14:18] <crissi_> i saw something on a forum about unmute it in pavucontrol
[14:18] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: I usually, not even under Windows - reboot my system after some updates are played in ...
[14:24] <crissi_> ok so i have sound in irc..  but i just installed flash (for web purposes) and it wont work to play media .
[14:27] <BluesKaj> crissi_, install flashplugin-nonfree, kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:27] <vbgunz> I think I know what is happening in my case. I think I know why I haven't seen a notification about updates or rebooting. I hardly and rarely reboot my machine but I do dual boot and prefer hibernating to get into Windows. I've gotten into the habit a long time ago to check for updates *before* I ever reboot. the latest notifier only seems to check and notify for updates upon bootup.
[14:29] <vbgunz> but I do remember and could have sworn to all the gods in the world, when ever I did an apt-get update, I would *immediately* see notifications for updates if I had any. updating in the gui if a reboot was required I remember seeing an orange two circled arrow icon immediately. anyhow, I'll keep following that thread
[14:30] <crissi_> ok got the plugin-nonfree
[14:30] <crissi_> where are the kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:31] <crissi_> gonna reboot real quick. be back in a minute
[14:34] <crissi_> ok.. so..  i now have sound on the computer, just still not on hulu.
[14:34] <crissi_> for some reason.
[14:36] <crissi_> found the extras
[14:36] <crissi_> trying again
[14:40] <crissi_> ok.
[14:40] <crissi_> got the extras
[14:40] <crissi_> got the flash-nonfree
[14:42] <hardy_> Hi, when I log to kubuntu from gdm, there is no reboot and shutdown buttons on the menu, why?
[14:50] <crissi_> ok. still no sound from web flash videos
[14:50] <Peace-> you have to remove all sick flash player
[14:50] <Peace-> like gnash
[14:50] <Peace-> et company
[14:50] <Peace-> and install libflashplungin-nonfree or something like that
[14:50] <Peace-> !flash
[14:54] <crissi_> ok.
[14:54] <iconmefisto__> I think the most current package is flashplugin-installer
[14:55] <crissi_> yeah i installed the flashplugin-nonfree, and the restricted-extras
[14:55] <crissi_> already
[14:55] <crissi_> i'll try the libflash i guess
[14:55] <Smurphy> ?me found out that he had to install the beta for his 64bit KUbuntu to have flash working.
[15:01] <BluesKaj> crissi_, w32codecs and w64codecs if you are running 64bit kubuntu
[15:05] <crissi_> ok. so i removed all flash, and reinstalled it again.with the libflash and the extras.
[15:05] <crissi_> its working now after reboot.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> crissi_, install libdvdcss2 for playing drm protected content ..it my come with the restricted-extras
[15:06] <crissi_> thanks.
[15:06] <crissi_> i got it working now.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | crissi_ , a good repos to have in your sourrces.list
[15:08] <crissi_> cool
[15:08] <crissi_> thanks!
[15:15] <replman> Hi! I'm using the banshee media player. But since some time (maybe since upgrading to 9.19) it cannot play any tracks. I get a red x in front of the track...
[15:21] <najim> hi
[15:35] <etreus> najim: hi
[15:39] <Threepwood> etreus: hi
[15:41] <xae8koo> Hello?
[15:41] <xae8koo> My dhcpserver wont start because of some obscure error :(
[15:57] <Roasted> does anybody have instability issues with kubuntu/kde?
[16:30] <ner0x> Anyone familiar with hylafax?
[16:31] <Guest33520> hi can someone please tell me how to send emails on a specified time with kmail? or tell me in which channel to ask?
[16:32] <yoyo> send later option off the message menu
[16:32] <Roasted> does anybody have instability issues with kubuntu/kde?
[16:33] <crayfish> Roasted: in what way?
[16:33] <Guest33520> yoyo: doesnt work.
[16:33] <crayfish> Roasted: I find Kubuntu to be most stable
[16:33] <Roasted> crayfish - I used kubuntu for the first time last night (big gnome user here)
[16:33] <Guest33520> yoyo: its only safed in the outbox then... but there can not be selectet a special time to send
[16:33] <Roasted> plasma crashed on me 3 times in about an hour
[16:33] <Roasted> just by doing really simple things
[16:33] <crayfish> Roasted: using 9.10?
[16:33] <Roasted> I just wasnt sure what to think of it
[16:34] <Roasted> yes crayfish
[16:34] <yoyo> Guest33520 You create it and set the send later before actually sending it
[16:35] <crayfish> Roasted: Im running Karmic (9.10) on a desktop with 2 screens, laptop and the netbook edition on a dell mini - all are completely stable - what graphics set up have you got?
[16:35] <Roasted> crayfish - onboard intel, not too sure offhand.
[16:35] <Roasted> crayfish - its a spare rig I have, an HP dx2200... 3.0ghz P4 with 1GB RAM
[16:35] <crayfish> should be fine, I've not had any issues with intel.
[16:35] <Guest33520> yoyo: yes - i think so too, but i would like to create the email, and choose monday morning 9 a.m. to send this particular email... is that possible too?
[16:36] <Roasted> crayfish - I'm not sure man. I want to like KDE and use it more but so far it has me a little skeptical. I just wanted to hear it from somebody else as to what other hardcore KDE users thought.
[16:36] <Guest33520> yoyo: I havent found any docs about this topic on the internet yet.
[16:36] <crayfish> Roasted: it's certainly not a wide issue, suggest you dig around in your logs to get more info
[16:36] <crayfish> Roasted: I use Kubuntu 99.9% of the time, at work too - never had a dsitro so stable.
[16:36] <Roasted> crayfish - well it's goo dto hear that it's not a huge issue, because if I mode to KDE full time from gnome, it'd be on a separate rig that needs to have pure stability, but its completely different hardware
[16:37] <crayfish> Roasted: did you install Kubuntu from scratch or attempt to load switch Ubunty from Gnome to KDE?
[16:37] <Roasted> crayfish - I have to be fair though now that I think about it, this computer hasnt been the easiest to install linux on. Sometimes when I boot I get 2 or 3 instances of the boot screen offset
[16:37] <Roasted> crayfish - well, I installed ubuntu and dumped KDE on top of it. Every time I downloaded an ISO of Kubuntu, it was corrupt.
[16:37] <crayfish> Roasted: sounds like hardware, Gnome has fried your box ;-)
[16:37] <yoyo> So you create a new message then within that window you choose message and go down to send later option and set the parameters.  You then type the body of the email and send? Guest33520
[16:38] <Roasted> crayfish - I burned with brasero, k3b, etc at slowest speed, each one fried
[16:38] <Roasted> used different cds too
[16:38] <Roasted> hey crayfish I have another question too for you
[16:38] <crayfish> Roasted: hmm funny that, I had to download a new iso today for 9.10 as my previous one didnt md5 match - I've never put KDE ontop of Ubuntu, always installed it from the Kubuntu ISO and never had any issues
[16:38] <Roasted> you're familiar with system monitor in gnome, I assume. Wehre you can have a panel in your top panel that shows your network activity, cpu activity, etc
[16:38] <crayfish> Roasted: did you check md5 sum of the iso?
[16:39] <Roasted> I want that in KDE, but I cant seem to add it. the widgets just kind of suck.
[16:39] <crayfish> Roasted: widgets... add them to the desktop or to the panel.
[16:39] <Roasted> crayfish - I did, but as I went to match it, we got a lightning storm and the power went off. Went to bed, woke up late, got to work at the last minute, and here I am on my lunch break digging for info :P
[16:39] <crayfish> If you add the widgets to the panel (rather than the desktop) you'll get smaller versions similar to what you're saying
[16:39] <Roasted> crayfish - my point is the kde version of these widgets kind of... suck. I cant expand them out at all.
[16:40] <Roasted> yeah I want them on the panel
[16:40] <Guest33520> thanks anyway.... will post in a foum for that question... but would be funny if it wouldnt work..
[16:40] <Roasted> crayfish - also - when I add widgets to the panel, whyc ant I move them? I want certain widgets spaced in different areas.
[16:40] <crayfish> Unlock widgets, then click the panel -  you can add mini versions of the widgets direct to the panel
[16:41] <Roasted> hm okay
[16:41] <Roasted> so crayfish do you know offhand if theres a system monitor that compares that Im talking about?
[16:41] <crayfish> You can - click the far-right icon (when widgets are unlocked) and "more settings" - you can lay the panel out completely as you choose
[16:41] <crayfish> Roasted: pretty sure there is, but I havent used Gnome in years
[16:42] <Roasted> crayfish - how long have you used kde?
[16:42] <crayfish> about 2 years
[16:42] <crayfish> It's gone leaps and bounds since KDE4.0
[16:43] <Roasted> yeah, that's what I keep hearing
[16:43] <Roasted> I gotta admit, I find KDE so much better with the panel at the top - but that may be the gnome side of me talkign :P
[16:43] <Roasted> KDE panel at top - dock at the bottom = very nice
[16:43] <Peace-> Roasted: i use the pannel on the top too
[16:43] <crayfish> < 4.0 was a waste of cpu cycles, 4.0 was buggy as hell, 4.1+ has been perfect and constantly improving/
[16:44] <Peace-> the first kde that is working here properly was kde 4.2.2
[16:44] <Roasted> crayfish - I'm glad to hear positive things about it. I will continue using gnome on my main rig until I get to know KDE more. Already in the 2-3 hours I've used it, I REALLY like it.
[16:44] <crayfish> 4.3.2 rocks
[16:44] <Peace-> crayfish: i am on kde 4.3.3
[16:44] <Roasted> I use my main rig as a backup server, file server, web server, etc so I dont want to screw with it unless I need to.
[16:44] <crayfish> Roasted: install the Kubuntu ISO though, I've never had a stability problem with that
[16:44] <Peace-> and it's rock solid
[16:44] <Roasted> what version of KDE does karmic 9.10 have?
[16:44] <crayfish> 4.3.2
[16:44] <Peace-> kde 4.3.2
[16:45] <Roasted> crayfish - I intend to. Like I said I just kept getting errors on every ISO I downloaded. But I will take your advice on that.
[16:45] <Peace-> but you can add the repository to install kde 4.3.3
[16:45] <crayfish> but you can get 4.3.3 as peace pointed out
[16:45] <Roasted> what differs from .3 to .2
[16:45] <crayfish> Peace-: I havent got around to doing that yet, much improvement on 4.3.2?
[16:45] <Peace-> mmm when kde is updated you should update
[16:45] <Peace-> but here
[16:45] <crayfish> Peace-: I heard they had improved "smoothness" a bit.
[16:45] <Peace-> i have not seen so much difference
[16:45] <crayfish> Roasted: check the md5sum
[16:45] <vasuvi> I've never had a stability problem on my Karmic either though albeit, and I installed Ubuntu (one of the early Karmic alphas) then used 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[16:46] <crayfish> Roasted: I wonder if theres an issue somewhere with mirrors, as I had to download the iso twice after the md5 didnt match.
[16:46] <Peace-> vasuvi: yes and then you had to installa mplayerthuimb and a lots of other stuff
[16:46] <Peace-> to get working properly
[16:46] <vasuvi> Peace-: No, actually, I didn't
[16:47] <Peace-> vasuvi: you should install
[16:47] <Peace-> to get advanced stuff on your kde
[16:47] <vasuvi> Peace-: Albeit perhaps I'm missing something and don't even realize it; I don't really care to get animated thumbnails though ;)
[16:48] <Peace-> well if you don't care about advanced features you can keep default installation
[16:48] <Peace-> but normally people want that stuff
[16:48] <vasuvi> Peace-: Would those things be automatic if you installed from a Kubuntu CD?
[16:49] <Peace-> vasuvi: nope :(
[16:49] <vasuvi> so no real difference there
[16:49] <Peace-> vasuvi: something are automatically installed but something no
[16:50] <Peace-> when you install ubuntu +kde what you get is a messed up system *for me *
[16:50] <vasuvi> that's fair; not saying it works for everybody, just saying that neither does it fail for everybody
[16:50] <vasuvi> YMMV :)
[16:54] <[buRn]> can u upgrade kubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10 from apt-get?
[16:54] <Peace-> [buRn]: yes you can
[16:54] <Peace-> !9.10
[16:54] <zhao> hello
[16:55] <[buRn]> just to know not to download cds :D
[16:55] <Peace-> !upgrade
[16:56] <[buRn]> Peace Peace :D
[16:56] <[buRn]> and thnx
[17:06] <[buRn]> where was apache httdocs?
[17:06] <[buRn]> i put samo html file there i need now i forgot where they were
[17:06] <[buRn]> :D
[17:06] <tsimpson> [buRn]: by default apache uses /var/www
[17:07] <[buRn]> tsimpson: yes thats the one! :D
[17:07] <[buRn]> thnx
[17:30] <robi__> ciaooooo
[17:31] <robi__> join ##ubuntu-it-irc
[17:31] <robi__> join #ubuntu-it-irc
[17:34] <Peace-> robi__: ?
[17:34] <Peace-> !it | robi__
[17:34] <Delano-241670895> How do I disable system event sounds?
[17:35] <Peace-> Delano-241670895: i guess on system settings .---system notifications
[17:35] <robi__> hello!
[17:36] <Delano-241670895> Peace-, no
[17:36] <Peace-> Delano-241670895: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/799/wacomtabkletsetijgs1.png
[17:37] <Peace-> Delano-241670895: please see it
[17:44] <Delano-241670895> Peace-, how do I install new cursor themes in KDE4?
[17:45] <Peace-> Delano-241670895: omg kid just search on systemsettings
[17:45] <Delano-241670895> Peace-, heh, I did
[17:46] <Peace-> all kde4 settings are on systemsettings
[17:46] <Peace-> like the name "suggest " y
[17:46] <Delano-241670895> Peace-, I honestly can't find it... please help?
[17:46] <Delano-241670895> We can't all be experts like you
[17:49] <Peace-> Delano-241670895: have you used gnome before ?
[17:49] <Peace-> Delano-241670895: omg http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/799/wacomtabkletsetijgs1.png
[18:10] <fasutus> it didn't work
[18:10] <fasutus> the screenlets still show up as boxes of colored lines
[18:13] <fasutus> should i uninstall the package i just added or keep it?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> install , xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[18:18] <fasutus> everything that can be installed in installed with the exception of the HD drivers
[18:18] <fasutus> and smaller things like tv out support and all that
[18:23] <ubuntu> hi?
[18:23] <fasutus> hi
[18:23] <fasutus> i'm in the middle of trying to solve a problem
[18:24] <fasutus> how savvy are you?
[18:24] <ubuntu> i'm newbie
[18:24] <ubuntu> i cant help you
[18:24] <ubuntu> ^
[18:24] <fasutus> me too
[18:24] <ubuntu> ^^
[18:24] <ubuntu> but i dont know speak english xD
[18:24] <ubuntu> i'm spanish
[18:24] <fasutus> ah ok
[18:24] <ubuntu> good luck
[18:24] <ubuntu> :)
[18:25] <BluesKaj> fasutus, di you install xserver-xorg-video-radeon ?
[18:25] <fasutus> yes, it was already installed
[18:25]  * BluesKaj wonders about mesa
[18:26] <BluesKaj> fasutus, have you visited the ati site for your linux driver recomendation
[18:26] <fasutus> no, i'll try that now
[18:28] <fasutus> would it be x700 for 7000?
[18:28] <fasutus> because there is no specific 7000
[18:30] <BluesKaj> fasutus, in the terminal . lspci | grep VGA
[18:38] <fasutus> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[18:48] <fasutus> any ideas Blues?
[18:59] <peaches> so does upgrading to 9.10 suck
[18:59] <fasutus> not so much
[19:00] <fasutus> i've only tried that and kubuntu
[19:00] <peaches> i hear it does
[19:00] <peaches> oh ok i'm talking about upgrading. not 9.10 by itself
[19:01] <Mamarok> peaches: that should work ok
[19:03] <peaches> i dont believe it
[19:04] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[19:05] <peaches> whats the matter
[19:05] <Mamarok> peaches: why do you ask since you apparently already run KDE from trunk, as your question in another other channel shows...
[19:06] <peaches> Mamarok: i have an entire system underneath it not on KDE trunk
[19:06] <Mamarok> well, random crashes you talk about in #kde-devel?
[19:13] <peaches> Mamarok: yeah but here it's Kubuntu talk
[19:14] <peaches> there are some apps in Kubuntu not in Ubuntu
[19:16] <Mamarok> peaches: I still don't get it, what do you want to know? You know that this is a support channel, so if you don't have a real support question you might want to rather discuss in #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:17] <peaches> Mamarok: ok my support question is, plainly, what problems will i have if i try to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04. should i do it
[19:18] <Mamarok> peaches: I did a clean install since I have a separate /home and had no problems at all
[19:19] <peaches> ah
[19:19] <Mamarok> I rsnyced my /home to an external HD and reformatted all in KDE4, the installed 9.10 and rsynced the /home content back, no problems at all
[19:20] <Mamarok> for final releases I always make clean installs, it get's rid of some garbage, and I bring back the $HOME/.kde/ content only for special apps like adressbook, mails, etc, not of the basic settings, so I start back with default
[19:21] <peaches> Mamarok: do all the configs from /etc come over cleanly ? i notice often there are merges with new stuff in upgrades that need to be done
[19:22] <Mamarok> peaches: I never bring back those, although I rsnync those too, usually there is no need to
[19:22] <peaches> Mamarok: rsynced those what does that mean
[19:23] <Mamarok> since I don't tweak system settings that much, mostly the desktop and that's in $HOME anyway
[19:23] <peaches> i have a ton of stuff from /etc, i hate upgrades since i always have to spend time on the merges
[19:23] <Mamarok> peaches: rsync is a tool for making backups:
[19:23] <Mamarok> !info rsync
[19:23] <Mamarok> and man rsync gives the details
[19:24] <drostie|crap> So, um, yeah. Could we add just one wishlist item to Project Timelord?
[19:25] <drostie|crap> I want once -- at least just once -- for an upgrade path to actually work. :-/
[19:25] <drostie|crap> Even if it, like this last one, lies to you. As long as it works.
[19:25] <Tm_T> hmm, last time I did clear install after trying broken alpha, couple years ago
[19:25] <Tm_T> s/clear/clean
[19:26] <Mamarok> drostie|crap: go on, suggest it
[19:26] <Tm_T> so at here upgrade paths seams to work
[19:27] <Mamarok> Tm_T: ditto here, never had any problems
[19:27] <Mamarok> drostie|crap: don't know what's wrong in your case, but I never had any such problems, and I use Kubuntu since it exists
[19:27] <Tm_T> well, I don't say I never had _any_ problems but just I don't remember any (:
[19:28] <drostie|crap> Mamarok: well, just to answer the implicit question, the computer doesn't want to mount swap at the very least, and it panics at some point. :/
[19:29] <drostie|crap> But I imagine I have to debug this myself. :/
[19:29] <Mamarok> drostie|crap: I never heard that, sorry
[19:30] <drostie|crap> with hope I can use a live cd to read log messages, if it's been leaving any.
[19:30] <Mamarok> drostie|crap: what computer, did it run Kubuntu 9.04 before?
[19:31] <drostie|crap> yeah. Ran 9.04 since a little before april.
[19:31] <drostie|crap> toshiba laptop. nice instructions on the laptop testing team pages for all of its extras. ^_^
[19:31] <Mamarok> drostie|crap: and you upgraded normally, no incidents during the upgrade?
[19:33] <drostie|crap> well, other than the habitual lying of the installer about whether it would download anything, nope. Just some config files that I reviewed and decided to put Kubuntu's way, leaving the task of changing them back until later.
[19:33] <K350> Is there any addressfield one can write/read in Dolphin?
[19:34] <drostie|crap> K350: click the path near the top of the Dolphin window, it should change into an edit control.
[19:34] <chaitu> I know this might sound silly, but can anyone help me with getting win+d working like in windows? I tried setting it up in uder settings in kubuntu.. I dont see a option where I can create a new one or edit "show desktop". Thanks
[19:35] <K350> drostie|crap: Thanks. I'll see what if I can manage it:)
[19:42] <drostie|crap> just for reference, LUKS is delightful and lovely and iloveitiloveitiloveit.
[19:43] <stefano_> ciaoooo a tuttiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!
[19:43] <stefano_> list!
[19:44] <stefano_> !list
[19:44] <Tm_T> stefano_: read topic
[19:47] <stefano_> list
[19:53] <noaXess> if i add a new software source in kpackagekit, it won't be added in /etc/apt/sources.list.. ???
[19:56] <Ahmuck> is there any particular reason why kubuntu is using 2.1G of RAM out of 3G of ram?
[20:04] <PolitikerNEU> Ahmuck: Have you tried looking at which processes take so much ram? (e.g. gnome-system-monitor)
[20:05] <kgeek_> one of my frien installed wicd and nw  it is nt working .he is not having any internetconnection....how canhe reinstall ..kubuntu
[20:05] <kgeek_> sorry not kubuntu but knetworkmanager*
[20:05] <PolitikerNEU> kgeek_: Maybe it is on the LiveCD? You can use it as installation medium AFIK
[20:05] <kgeek_> AFIK ?
[20:06] <kgeek_> PolitikerNEU: can u tell me wats it
[20:06] <PolitikerNEU> AFIK = As far I know
[20:06] <kgeek_> PolitikerNEU: oh :P
[20:06] <kgeek_> PolitikerNEU: le me try .. thnxx
[20:14] <chaitu> greetings All, am trying to get compiz working but looks like am doing something wrong. when I type Compiz in terminal my screen flickers and I see compiz logs coming up in the terminal... other than that I dont see any effects happening..can someone help me please? thanks
[20:15] <kgeek_> can i  put usb on my sourcelist
[20:17] <avihay> kgeek_: as long as it's mounted, why not
[20:18] <kgeek_> avihay: so wats the line i should write in sourcelist.
[20:18] <avihay> chaitu: I suggest you install a package called fusion icon
[20:18] <Tm_T> kgeek_: ofcourse it also have to have proper repository there
[20:18] <avihay> you shoul look out on how your cd-rom appears in the sources list fo example
[20:18] <kgeek_> avihay: my friend  don't have internet connection so i can't resolve the dependency for installing fusion
[20:20] <avihay> at any rate, you can browse to the repository site with a web browser, download all the debs, and use the deb package installer
[20:22] <kgeek_> avihay: ah no it is recursive dependency u know..
[20:23] <avihay> well, you can install the packages in the right order
[20:23] <avihay> or you can install them all at once with dpkg --install <list of packages>
[20:27] <kgeek_> avihay: oh thnxx
[20:29] <avihay> I think
[20:30] <oriol> just got myself kubuntu :) its nice so far, but does kde run as good as it does in debian?:o
[20:34] <K350> How do one create a shortcut to a file or a folder in Dolphin?
[20:35] <avihay> K350: drag and drop. a menu should appear asking you what to do. but it's not exactly a shortcut
[20:38] <K350> avihay: Ah, I see...
[20:39] <avihay> !softlink
[20:39] <avihay> !hardlink
[20:40] <avihay> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[20:41] <nixjunki3> anyone in here a package maintainer
[20:43] <Quintasan> nixjunki3: I am
[20:45] <kgeek_> can any one tell me if i have made a live usb stick how can i use it as source for installing any application
[20:47] <NSsmiles> can i get help setting up  kmail
[20:47] <Quintasan> NSsmiles: what you want to do?
[20:48] <nixjunki3> Quintasan: I am currently packaging a program but have no idea about the copyright dates, what should I do
[20:48] <NSsmiles> i  tried to set up hotmail account in kmail but it's  not working
[20:48] <WaY> hello
[20:48] <Quintasan> nixjunki3: Thare are no dates at all or you are missing some
[20:49] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: is that even possible?
[20:49] <WaY> what network manager do you use for managing your wifi? (instead of knetworkmanager)
[20:49] <kgeek_> can any one tell me if i have made a live usb stick how can i use it as source for installing any application
[20:49] <nixjunki3> Quintasan: There are none at all
[20:49] <Quintasan> nixjunki3: You can't even guess?
[20:49] <kgeek_> WaY: WICD
[20:49] <nixjunki3> Well i can do that
[20:49] <NSsmiles> says you   can use  pop3
[20:49] <nixjunki3> I just wasnt sure what is proper
[20:50] <WaY> any other? :S
[20:50] <WaY> thanks kgeek_
[20:50] <zorael> What's an easy way to make printscreen start ksnapshot?
[20:50] <Quintasan> nixjunki3: I would put 2008-2009 if it's fairly new
[20:50] <Quintasan> nixjunki3: what are you packaging anyways?
[20:50] <NSsmiles> i'm new to  linux so i'm trying things out
[20:50] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: hmm, can you provide a link where it's explained?
[20:51] <nixjunki3> Quintasan: Alright thank you for the help, I am packaging pcalc http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcalc/
[20:51] <NSsmiles> Tm_T: are you using kubuntu
[20:51] <NSsmiles> ?
[20:51] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: I am
[20:51] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: but where is told that you can use pop3 for hotmail?
[20:52] <NSsmiles> ok i search mail
[20:53] <NSsmiles> and kmail
[20:53] <NSsmiles> came up
[20:53] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: hmm, ok, found something...
[20:53] <NSsmiles> under setting..
[20:53] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: so whats the problem?
[20:55] <NSsmiles> when you  click add pop3 is one of the options
[20:55] <NSsmiles> i  put the info in but it is not working
[20:56] <NSsmiles> i  did something wrong i guess but i don't what i did wrong
[20:57] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: how it doesn't work?
[20:58] <rstob911> NSsmiles: http://userbase.kde.org/Kmail  look at tips and tricks
[20:59] <NSsmiles> i was getting an error when i tried to send mail
[20:59] <Tm_T> what error?
[20:59] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: and you can receive just fine?
[20:59] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: you really need to be more specific, the actual error message is always good to know
[21:00] <NSsmiles> transport  live.com is invalid
[21:00] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: but you can receive?
[21:01] <NSsmiles> ok i will try  the link
[21:01] <NSsmiles> not sure  about incoming
[21:02] <Tm_T> NSsmiles: sending and receiving are separate things :)
[21:03] <NSsmiles> i only tried sending mail
[21:03] <NSsmiles> i'll   be back
[21:04] <rstob911> not sure if you can configure live.com mail for kmail he may have to try thunderbird
[21:05] <Tm_T> rstob911: that shouldn't be any different, really
[21:06] <ahsan> any can plz help"i m unable to install new version of amsn"
[21:07] <^kenhoob-it1> ahsan what's the error exactly?
[21:08] <rstob911> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=651416  think that hotmail has stopped pop features in there mail
[21:08] <^kenhoob-it1> ahsan try pidgin
[21:08] <ahsan> its displayin "tklcximage module not installed"
[21:08] <Tm_T> rstob911: let's see...
[21:09] <markus_> hy everybody
[21:09] <markus_> how can I send more than 1 file at a time with bluetooth?
[21:09] <Tm_T> rstob911: sorry, but that old news, they opened pop access this year
[21:09] <ahsan> i m trying to install 0.99b vversion
[21:10] <rstob911> ok i havent used hotmail since gmail came out
[21:10] <Tm_T> rstob911: well, I know only what I found googling this time (:
[21:10] <rstob911> i love google
[21:13] <rstob911> NSsmiles: here is the instructions   http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/06/send-and-receive-windows-live-hotmail-emails
[21:13] <ahsan> hy every body
[21:13] <ahsan> plz help me to fix amsn
[21:14] <Tm_T> !patience
[21:14] <rstob911> ahsan: kopete wont work for you
[21:15] <ahsan> thnks for rep but i want a messenger tat support offline messaging
[21:15] <Tm_T> ahsan: I thought Kopete supports
[21:15] <ahsan> lemme try den
[21:17] <rstob911> ahsan: http://www.amsn-project.net/ you may need a plugin
[21:38] <Claw6> hello im using compiz and any how dolphin has no decoration. its the only app which has no
[21:39] <Claw6> what can i do?
[21:42] <Peace-> Claw6: mm i think you have to install ermeral
[21:42] <Peace-> emerald-theme stuff
[21:46] <awhatley> hey guys newbie here was wondering where i might get some help
[21:47] <awhatley> #
[21:47] <awhatley>     /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[21:47] <awhatley> opps
[21:50] <awhatley> can anyone direct me to where i can get some help
[21:50] <Guest54099> wuth?
[21:50] <Guest54099> with?
[21:50] <kgeek_> awhatley: abt wat?
[21:51] <awhatley> was wondering why when my wifi card is wireless abgn same as router but cannot connect to N
[21:52] <awhatley> i was tryin to post on the forum but it wont let me
[21:52] <awhatley> keeps tryin to download .php files
[21:53] <awhatley> the last time i used linux was when mandrake 8.2 was just released
[21:54] <rstob911> awhatley: but it does connect to g correct
[21:54] <awhatley> yes
[21:54] <awhatley> but when i run lshw -class network it says  product: BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[21:54] <awhatley> maybe im just getting confused
[21:55] <awhatley> when i run iwconfig it only says 802.11g
[21:55] <rstob911> awhatley: ok then it works but if you need you may need to use ndiswrapper and use the win driver
[21:55] <rethus> hi there... one question... i have downloaded the kubuntu-iso, but for one project i need xubuntu. How can i easyly change kubuntu after installation to kubuntu... or should i better download directly xubuntu?
[21:56] <awhatley> that is what i was using at first but it would not connect at all so i started using WICD
[21:56] <Peace-> rethus: just install xubuntu-desktop
[21:56] <Ahmuck> rethus: u can change, however, if your download speed is good and download does not cost anything, download xubuntu
[21:57] <rethus> Ahmuk: thats the problem.. downloadspeed is not such good
[21:57] <Ahmuck> u can remove kubuntu just as easliy by removing kubuntu-desktop
[21:57] <awhatley> also i was wondering if there are certain routers that do not like to function with linux?
[21:57] <Ahmuck> so, "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[21:57] <Ahmuck> and "sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop"
[21:57] <Tm_T> Ahmuck: that doesn't remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:58] <Ahmuck> ?
[21:58] <Tm_T> that removes only the metapackage that contains nothing in itself
[21:58] <rstob911> awhatley: i have accually found the broadcom works quite nicely which that is what you have
[21:58] <Tm_T> rethus: you can have xubuntu and kubuntu in same install
[21:59] <rethus> Tm_T: i doesn't need it.. only need a lightway system with xubuntu
[21:59] <awhatley> so then what would you suggest I do. im not to sure how to configure ndiswrapper
[21:59] <Tm_T> rethus: but if you really want to get rid of all KDE (Kubuntu stuff) then install xubuntu-desktop and then...
[21:59] <Tm_T> !puregnome | rethus
[21:59] <Tm_T> rethus: btw Xubuntu itself isn't much lighter than Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[22:00] <rethus> ah, ok, but why it start so slowly?
[22:00] <rstob911> search the forums   http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=ndiswrapper
[22:00] <rethus> to start kde takes 2 minutes, and xubuntu less then one miute (on Pentium III)
[22:01] <Tm_T> rethus: I really wonder why, is that only "slowness" you encounter?
[22:02] <rethus> i dont know... but isn't xfce a lightwight wm? Thats the different or not?
[22:02] <rethus> so xfce on suse also much faster loaded at first time
[22:03] <rethus> Tm_T: did u personaly have benchmark xfce vs. kde4?
[22:03] <Tm_T> rethus: that's been the impression yes, though I have used KDE4 with 128 MiB ram and old celeron
[22:04] <rstob911> rethus: sounds to me like your video card is not letting all of the composit stuff run right try turning off the desktop effects
[22:04] <Tm_T> rethus: yes, both can be light if you tweak, but only startup time seems to be real difference in reasonable use
[22:04] <rethus> so my p3 has magic 256 ram :D
[22:05] <rethus> ok, can tweak kde too, but this is some work, or is this quite esy and fast made?
[22:05] <rethus> i need a small fast system for an telephone-application server...
[22:05] <rethus> need no eyecandy have only to run fast an stable
[22:06] <Tm_T> rethus: if you like to have light system without tweaking AND you still need desktop, I recommend lxde
[22:06] <Tm_T> but now I have to go to sleep, good luck with it (: ->>
[22:06] <rethus> tm_t: thx
[22:07] <rstob911> rethus: i like this one   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/lxde-lightweight-x11-desktop-environment-for-ubuntu.html
[22:09] <rethus> rstob911: biggest problem is that in each wm the apps are different.. in kde have konqueror, k3b.. in gnome nautilus, in xfce other...
[22:10] <rethus> so what have lxdea for programms? like gnome, or own collection?
[22:11] <rstob911> there are several flavors of lxde going around distro watch may be your best bet to look and compare
[22:11] <rethus> but its no distro, only WM ?!
[22:12] <rstob911> rethus: here is a full distro   http://pclinuxos.com/?page_id=188
[22:13] <awhatley> to whom i was talking to before about my wireless issues are you still in here?
[22:14] <rstob911> yes
[22:14] <awhatley> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ndiswrapper+bcmwl5 driverversion=1.55+Broadcom,10/22/2008, 5.10.3 ip=192.168.0.11 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11g
[22:14] <rethus> mhrstob911: on which disto is pclinux based?
[22:14] <awhatley> can you explain that to me
[22:14] <awhatley> im sorry for being a pain in the a$$
[22:14] <rstob911> it is accually its own now but was based on mandriva
[22:15] <rethus> think i better install kubuntu and try lxde... is it in the main repos of kubuntu?
[22:15] <rethus> cause i like debian-based, cause very stable
[22:15] <awhatley> what about not being able to post on forums, it is making me download .php files
[22:16] <rstob911> awhatley: yes that driver will only let you connect at G not N in linux
[22:16] <awhatley> is there anything i can do to correct the issue
[22:16] <rethus> rstob911: but oclinux has a nice configurator like yast on suse... kubuntu hasn't this ??
[22:16] <awhatley> or just leave it at that for now since it is working
[22:17] <awhatley> well i am running for a smoke i will be back in a few
[22:17] <rstob911> rethus: remember that all the distros out there are based off of debian or redhat
[22:19] <rethus> rstob911... but some are far away from debian now... for exxample gentoo
[22:19] <rstob911> some just have different ways if packaging either .deb or .rpm
[22:19] <rethus> and each has other major targets and ways to get this targets
[22:20] <rstob911> linux from scratch
[22:21] <rethus> thats alos why i wan't to change from suse to kubuntu... newer packages, very stable... suse also good, but not exactly my kind of "living Linux" ;)
[22:22] <mauri> which are the differente between karmic and lucid
[22:25] <rethus> rstob911: so whats the fastest and smalest way.. installing xubuntu and than lxde or kubuntu and than lxde?
[22:25] <rstob911> rethus: there are just about every flavor of ubuntu you could ever need
[22:26] <rstob911> rethus: xubuntu is a nice desktop light and fast
[22:27] <rstob911> rethus: kubuntu kde-4 not so fast but very nice for faster machines
[22:27] <rethus1> jes, i know, all based on ubuntu... but maybe i have to install this set of software much often than only once... so maybe its better directly to download xubuntu?!
[22:27] <rstob911> yes
[22:31] <rethus1> on xubuntu page i found this info: setting up automated deployments; (on installing with "alternate Installing CD)
[22:32] <rethus1> so i need to install an asterisk, lighttpd, mysql and so on.
[22:32] <rethus1> how can i preset this?
[22:38] <david_> hola alguien me puede colaborar en la instalacion de un paquete tar. gz
[22:45] <rethus1> so special question... can i install kubuntu on a second hdd (in same pc) and migrate suse to kubuntu step for step (maybe with kubuntu in virtual machine?)
[22:49] <rethus1> and second question (not special question :p ) did u use a firewall in kubuntu.. and why isn't there a firewall out of the box?
[22:49] <geos_de> How do you define migrate? I would install kubuntu parallel to suse and then I would try to copy the home folder part for part to the kubuntu installation
[22:50] <geos_de> I don't use one.
[22:51] <geos_de> If there are no open ports a port-firewall which is normally used on pcs isn't neccessary
[22:51] <rethus1> geos_de: jes, but i will try it live.. means... kopy some kmail-stuff, and try it on kubuntu... work it or not... if work, copy the next, if not, restore the defaults
[22:52] <rethus1>  geos_de: no open ports ??? a desktop wha has no firewall activatet listen on all ports - or am i wrong?
[22:53] <geos_de> I do so on every kubuntu-"Update": Backup my home-folder, format hdd install new kubuntu version copy home folders like you said
[22:54] <rethus1> goes_de i have no kubuntu, i still have suse... so i have to migrate
[22:54] <DTsan> what is a good alternative to hyperterminal for 8.04 ?
[22:54] <geos_de> there must be a server which is listening to that port. If not: what will happen to connections to the port?: nothing
[22:55] <rethus1> so i think about to start kubuntu on sdb in virtualbox and copy file for file to kubuntu and try it out
[22:55] <geos_de> yes but the kde home folder might be nearly the same (hope so)
[22:56] <geos_de> of course you can do it this way. But if you install it parallel to your suse installation there shouldn't be any problems
[22:56] <DTsan> !hyperterminal
[22:56] <DTsan> !hyper terminal
[22:56] <DTsan> -_-
[22:57] <rethus1> goes_de: no, not the same kde-folder. Thats wrong... suse have some individual configs
[22:58] <WilliamBuell> I did one Wubi install of Ubuntu on a Windows XP, and then a full Ubuntu on a Gateway tower, and now I am trying to connect via Ethernet DSL
[22:58] <avihay> xterm?
[22:58] <rethus1> goes_de: copy and paste will break kubuntus kde
[22:59] <avihay> DTsan: what exacly are ya looking for?
[23:00] <WilliamBuell> I tried installing iirc with synaptic manager, but no obvious way to launch it, so Konversation is much better, right on the Internet menu
[23:01] <WilliamBuell> does everyone here use Ubuntu? (is this a dumb question?)
[23:01] <rstob911> lol
[23:03] <avihay> WilliamBuell: I'm forced to use ubuntu at school
[23:03] <DTsan> avihay: i need a program that acts like Hyper Terminal, perferable one that does rtv995 emulation
[23:03] <WilliamBuell> I am blogging step by step with each thing do in Ubuntu, so I will have documentation, and can remember later
[23:03] <rstob911> WilliamBuell: i have found that not everyone but most do  i still can't stop laughing ubuntu kubuntu not much differnce just window manager
[23:03] <avihay> DTsan: something that will talk with the serial port?
[23:03] <WilliamBuell> ohhhh i see, kubuntu is a seperate flavor of, what, debian
[23:04] <avihay> no
[23:04] <WilliamBuell> does anyone here blog about ubuntu, you are welcome to look at my blog, .. it might help some beginners out
[23:04] <DTsan> no, work over lan
[23:04] <DTsan> to an ip address
[23:05] <avihay> like telnet?
[23:05] <DTsan> yeah
[23:05] <WilliamBuell> avihay: where is your school located, what state, what country, I read that some countries like Switzerland are making Linux manditory
[23:05] <rstob911> well ubuntu used to be based off of debian but now 99% on there own WilliamBuell
[23:05] <avihay> then use telnet
[23:05] <DTsan> >.>
[23:05] <WilliamBuell> ah, thanks rstob911
[23:05] <avihay> unless you want it encripted, then you want ssh
[23:06] <DTsan> did not know i could do that. where might i find it?
[23:06] <DTsan> telnet i mean
[23:06] <WilliamBuell> I found an easy quick automatic way to install LAMP (Linux Apache php MySQL), and I blogged the steps
[23:07] <rstob911> good old telnet you can find it at the software add and remove DTsan
[23:07] <avihay> as far as I know telnet comes with every unix and unix decended long befor the microsol version ever came out
[23:07] <avihay> ya, telnet is already installed. open a konsoul and type telnet (or ssh)
[23:07] <DTsan> ahh, ok
[23:07] <DTsan> thanks
[23:07] <avihay> it should already be installed
[23:07] <WilliamBuell> I find it is useful to have a Wubi install on one machine, and then this pure Ubuntu machine, so if I want to install something, i can do it with Wubi first, cause that is easier to reinstall
[23:07] <DTsan> will try shortly, have a few other things to attend to
[23:10] <rstob911> DTsan: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/utelnet.htm
[23:11] <DTsan> thanks rstob911
[23:11] <DTsan> will fiddle later, leaving or now
[23:11] <WilliamBuell> are many of you on Facebook, just curious,
[23:12] <WilliamBuell> I am using Avira antivir a lot as antivirus on windows and Online Armor as fire wall, and their forums are very helpful
[23:12] <rstob911> probably
[23:12] <WilliamBuell> Avira has a free linux install, but it is too complex for a beginner like me
[23:13] <WilliamBuell> is it really true that ubuntu/kubuntu is immune to viruses right now and doesnt need av or firewall
[23:13] <WilliamBuell> I really hate microsoft, which makes me motivated to master ubuntu
[23:14] <WilliamBuell> is anyone on plurk microblog?
[23:14] <WilliamBuell> or Myspace?
[23:16] <rstob911> WilliamBuell: avast has a .deb at there web page   http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-for-linux-edition.html  just download it then click on it then it will install
[23:16] <WilliamBuell> wait, you mean that link will just install on ubuntu?
[23:16] <WilliamBuell> or on windows
[23:16] <WilliamBuell> thanks
[23:16] <rstob911> its a linux download you need the .deb file
[23:17] <rstob911> they also have a windows version
[23:17] <rstob911> but i havent used windows in years
[23:17] <WilliamBuell> i am downloading the .deb
[23:18] <WilliamBuell> gosh, thanks, rstob, i have been begging at the avira forum for days, and finally, they gave me a link to some complex pdf about rebuilding the kernel
[23:19] <WilliamBuell> which is way too advanced for me
[23:19] <rstob911> no need for all that lol
[23:21] <rstob911> WilliamBuell: after it installs im not sure if it puts a icon on the desktop or not if not just right click on the desktop and hit run command and type avast
[23:21] <WilliamBuell> rstob: this is a BIG help to me just to have the .deb install
[23:22] <WilliamBuell> i am sure there is some way to launch it, even if only in terminal with sudo
[23:22] <WilliamBuell> thanks!
[23:22] <WilliamBuell> I cant figure out why the Avira forum couldnt give me that simple link
[23:22] <WilliamBuell> I purchased a three year licence for their premium package for my wifes windows machine
[23:23] <WilliamBuell> because i need it, and because they helped me on so many thing
[23:23] <WilliamBuell> does anyone here use windows as well as ubuntu
[23:23] <kadavre> me
[23:23] <kadavre> (hi)
[23:24] <WilliamBuell> is there any way to suppress the channel join leave notifications?
[23:24] <WilliamBuell> i see settings and notifications, but i cant figure out how to suppress them
[23:25] <progre55> hi people! I used to see .jar and .zip file contents on my MC (midnight commander), but now it's not showing them, just empty.. any suggestions please?
[23:26] <WilliamBuell> i did a synaptic install of wicd and it really helped me to connect the wubi ubuntu machine to ethernet hard wire, but it will not recognize the ethernet card on my gateway
[23:26] <WilliamBuell> and i dont know enough about the configurations to know what to fill in for ip address, mask, etc
[23:27] <WilliamBuell> i also bought a startech.com ethernet card for $10 which says they have linux drivers, but no hint of how to install them on ubuntu
[23:28] <WilliamBuell> i even wrote to their support dept a week ago, but no answer
[23:28] <roto_> como coño puedo ccambiar de servidor irc?