[01:15] <Sir_Konrad> Hi!
[01:26] <Sir_Konrad> Hello?
[01:28] <elky> we haven't had a chance to discuss it yet.
[01:30] <Sir_Konrad> lol ok.
[01:30] <Sir_Konrad> I'll be back tomorrow or Saturday.
[01:30] <Sir_Konrad> see ya.
[03:18] <jussi0l> nalioth: please call me now.
[03:21] <jussio1> this in room internet is shockin. theyve blocked, all the ports, including 22 and 4242 which are y regular irc out ports...
[03:21] <Flannel> jussio1: That sucks indeed
[04:06] <cytotoxic> UNBAN ME FROM UBUNTU
[04:07] <jrib> !guidelines > cytotoxic
[04:07] <jrib> cytotoxic: stop with the nonsense?
[04:07] <cytotoxic> GREAT I NOW HAVE TO MAKE ANTIBODYS AGINST UBOTTU
[04:07] <cytotoxic> MY B CELLS WILL HAVE ANTIBODYS AGINST IT
[04:08] <cytotoxic> I ALREADY HAVE ANTIBODYS AGINST UBUNTU SINCE ITS A DISEASE
[04:08]  * jrib realizes he cannot op...
[04:08] <jrib> !ops
[04:08] <cytotoxic> IDIOT
[04:08] <cytotoxic> BAN ME
[04:09] <cytotoxic> !STAFF
[04:09] <Amaranth> hmm...
[04:13] <bazhang> -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation.  :/
[04:13] <jrib> bazhang: yeah most of the ops don't have ops here for some reason :/
[04:13] <bazhang> well its fun to be highlighted nonetheless jrib
[04:19] <jrib> oh well, good night
[04:19] <bazhang> night
[04:20] <bazhang> whoops
[04:47] <cytotoxic> !ops
[04:48] <Flannel> cytotoxic: How can we help you tonight?
[04:48] <Flannel> right.
[04:49] <bazhang> trying to remember how to set ubottu to ignore
[04:49] <bazhang> or there is that :)
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> errrr
[04:50] <bazhang> in ot now
[04:50] <Amaranth> Not anymore
[04:51]  * Amaranth bows to tonyyarusso
[05:05] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: ^^^
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> yay
[05:38] <Madpilot> !ping
[05:40] <Flannel> ubottu: Can entropy ever be reversed?
[05:43] <Madpilot> that's an awfully deep question to saddle the bot with
[05:45] <Flannel> It's an easy response... for the next few billion years.
[05:50] <Madpilot> true enough
[05:51]  * Madpilot goes back to fiddling with his shiny new WP install instead of bothering the bot
[07:46] <Tm_T> Bacta: hi how can we help you today?
[07:46] <Bacta> You can't, so i guess I'll need to leave?
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> That would be the drill, yes.
[07:50] <Bacta> Drill
[07:50] <Bacta> lol
[07:50] <Madpilot> ?
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: he's not new.
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> but I'm going to bed.
[07:51] <Madpilot> thought you never slept
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> I can at least pretend to be normal.
[08:54] <ikonia> Bacta: what do you need ?
[08:54] <Bacta> I got banned?
[08:54] <ikonia> yes
[08:54] <Bacta> for how long?
[08:54] <ikonia> until you can behave
[08:55] <ikonia> you've had enough chances - you persistantly prove you can't behave, so now there is a hard line being taken with you
[08:55] <Bacta> Haven't you introduced a bit of a paradox there Matt?
[08:55] <ikonia> no
[08:56] <Bacta> Do you seriously think I care about being banned from your wee little channel?
[08:56] <ikonia> ok, then please leave
[08:56] <ikonia> we don't need to discuss it futher
[08:57] <Bacta> i think i offended you huh?
[08:57] <ikonia> no
[08:58] <Bacta> We may as well discuss it
[08:59] <ikonia> I don't see a need, you know your behaviour is unacceptable, you don't care about being in the channel, find else where to play your silly games
[08:59] <Bacta> i do want to be in the channel
[08:59] <Bacta> i was just a bit mad
[08:59] <ikonia> then you need to learn how to behave
[08:59] <ikonia> you've had multiple chances and on each occasion fail
[09:00] <Bacta> Believe it or not I do know how to behave
[09:00] <ikonia> you are a disruption to the channel and until you can not be - there is no reason to allow to back in
[09:00] <ikonia> Bacta: I believe you know how to behave, I believe you chose not to behave
[09:00] <ikonia> it ends now
[09:00] <Bacta> how can I be a disruption to a channel in which I am banned?
[09:00] <ikonia> don't play stupid games with me
 you are a disruption to the channel and until you can not be - there is no reason to allow to back in
[09:00] <ikonia> you where banned BECAUSE you are a disruption
[09:00] <Bacta> I cannot be a disruption to your channel
[09:00] <Bacta> Because I am banned from it
[09:01] <ikonia> ok - then lets leave it at that
[09:01] <ikonia> problem solved
[09:01] <ikonia> play word games and this is how it works out
[09:01] <Bacta> I'm sorry if you have issues with English
[09:01] <Bacta> but you need to re-read what you just wrote
[09:01] <ikonia> no problem, you're right, you can't be a disruption in the channel as you are banned, so the problem is solved. Lets leave it there
[09:01] <ikonia> thanks for explaining that to me,
[09:02] <Bacta> you told me that until i am not a disruption to your channel i won't be allowed back in
[09:02] <ikonia> Bacta: ok, "until we have confidence you would no longer be a disruption"
[09:02] <Bacta> How can you have confidence in me when I don't use the other channels you use?
[09:03] <ikonia> I use other channels you use, as do other operators, and through conversations that give us confidence you won't continue your normal distruptive behaviour
[09:03] <ikonia> for example you joined #freenode earlier and started singing about sexual harrasment panda from south park - is that appropriate for #freenode - no, and you know it and you've been asked not to do it, yet you do
[09:04] <ikonia> you cannot be trusted to keep your behaviour promise, so until we have condience you can behave, there is no point allowing you back in the channel to be a disruption again
[09:05] <ikonia> that of course should read "confidence"
[09:06] <Bacta> so I guess I'll have to stick to archlinux-offtopic now for my daily Linux offtopic goodness :(
[09:06] <ikonia> ok
[09:07] <Bacta> I'm not holding my breath
[09:07] <ikonia> ok
[09:07] <Bacta> I know you don't like me and that you are most certainly one to hold a grudge
[09:07] <ikonia> if you need nothing else from this channel you're welcome to leave and go about your IRC activities as I don't see any need to progress this conversaton futher
[09:08] <Bacta> will do ... enjoy your mothers basement
[09:08] <ikonia> Bacta: if I like you or not is not relevant, I don't know you. You've had multiple chances to behave and constantly fail. I've warned you that from now on no more chances will be given and you've still had more chances, it has to end at some point
[09:08] <ikonia> throwing insults doesn't help
[09:08] <ikonia> I suggest you leave now and go about your day
[09:08] <Bacta> And I suggest you invest in some remedial English
[09:08] <Bacta> Good day to you sir
[09:09] <ikonia> bye
[09:09] <Madpilot> what was the last straw? (been afk...)
[09:10] <Madpilot> ikonia, Bacta has just joined #ubuntu
[09:10] <ikonia> I'm aware
[09:11] <ikonia> he's asking obvious questions but thats fine
[09:16] <ikonia> Bacta: hello
[09:17] <ikonia> how can we help now ?
[09:17] <Bacta> Hello
[09:17] <Bacta> I'm sorry I insulted you about your english and basement
[09:17] <Bacta> i feel bad now
[09:17] <ikonia> ok
[09:17] <ikonia> no need to feel bad, it's not a problem
[09:17] <ikonia> anything else you need ?
[09:17] <Bacta> i say all this shit
[09:17] <Bacta> and then i feel bad
[09:17] <Bacta> i'm not a bad guy
[09:17] <ikonia> please control your language
[09:17] <ikonia> I don't think you are a bad guy
[09:18] <ikonia> no need to feel bad
[09:18] <Bacta> i think people misunderstand me :(
[09:18] <ikonia> no
[09:18] <ikonia> I think you cause a disruption for ammusment and people don't allow that
[09:18] <Bacta> it's not very fun to be honest
[09:18] <ikonia> yet you still do it
[09:19] <ikonia> but anyway, thank you for your apology, it's accepted as I have no issue with it. Is there anything else you need from us ?
[09:20] <Bacta> not really
[09:20] <Bacta> goodbye
[09:20] <ikonia> super
[09:20] <ikonia> bye
[09:21] <ikonia> for the record, I apprciate the apology, however it doesn't chance the regular pattern of his behaviour or in my view give reason to allow the cycle to start again
[09:21] <bazhang> yep
[09:21] <ikonia> and has anyone considered a factoid for lubuntu as it seems to be gaining interest
[10:07] <MenZa> Bacta's going at it with the FSF song in #ubuntu
[10:09] <ikonia> he's gone
[10:09] <ikonia> he's had a warning in here just an hour ago
[10:09] <ikonia> enough with this time wasting
[10:11] <ikonia> Bacta: what now
[10:12] <Bacta> I'm banned from another channel?
[10:12] <ikonia> Bacta: because you spammed #ubuntu with fsf and hacking nonsense
[10:12] <ikonia> less than an hour after being in here and warned about your behaviour
[10:13] <Bacta> is the FSF a nonsensical organisation?
[10:13] <ikonia> it's not relevant to #ubuntu for support and discussion
[10:13] <ikonia> lets stop messing around please
[10:13] <Bacta> Ok I'm sorry, won't happen again
[10:13] <Bacta> When will I be allowed back in?
[10:13] <ikonia> it won't - you're banned
[10:13] <ikonia> when we have confidence your behaviour will not be a disruption
[10:13] <ikonia> as it has been yet again
[10:14] <Bacta> Where can I get help with Ubuntu?
[10:14] <ikonia> other channels or forums
[10:14] <Bacta> Can you suggest another channel?
[10:14] <ikonia> no
[10:14] <ikonia> you know the other channels, you're in them often enough
[10:16] <Bacta> wtf is Guylan
[10:16] <Bacta> One of your channel users?
[10:17] <MenZa> They may or may not be. We don't keep an index of our users.
[10:18] <MenZa> Please be on your way. I don't think we'll find any other conclusion today than the one already drawn.
[10:22] <MenZa> Bacta: Please note the non-idling policy of the channel, thank you.
[10:26] <Madpilot> Bacta, not funny. Which part of "no idlers" are you having difficulty understanding?
[10:27] <Bacta> hmmm
[10:27] <Bacta> the "no"
[10:27] <Bacta> followed by the "idlers"
[10:27] <Bacta> a bit of a leap for me
[10:27] <MenZa> Bacta: You're pushing your luck now.
[10:27] <Bacta> heh? really?
[10:27] <MenZa> Yes.
[10:27] <Bacta> :(
[10:28] <MenZa> I wouldn't expect any chance of getting unbanned anytime soon with that attitude.
[10:28] <MenZa> !coc > Bacta
[10:28] <MenZa> Take a few minutes to read that.
[10:28] <MenZa> And please respect the policy of the channel - thank you.
[10:28] <Madpilot> I'm sure he's been referred to the CoC. Doesn't seem to have made an impact.
[10:29] <MenZa> I still felt that it was my duty ;)
[10:29] <Bacta> I didn't accept a license when I installed Ubuntu
[10:29] <Bacta> I'm not going to accept one now
[10:29] <MenZa> No, but you accepted a licence when you joined the #ubuntu namespace.
[10:29] <MenZa> The Code of Conduct.
[10:29] <MenZa> And if you refuse to accept it, you shouldn't be here.
[10:29] <Bacta> I didn't click any button
[10:29] <Madpilot> MenZa, 'enough rope'
[10:29] <Bacta> I read the Freenode one
[10:29] <MenZa> Bacta: You should have read your screen more carefully. Enough of this, now.
[10:31] <Madpilot> tiresome slow troll
[10:31] <MenZa> Very.
[10:31] <Madpilot> he's in distinguished company in the -ops banlist, anyway... not many people are thick enough to earn that honour...
[10:32] <Madpilot> ah, and the PMs begin
[10:32] <MenZa> Yes, yes they do.
[10:32] <Madpilot> thankfully, it's 0230 here and I'm off to sleep very shortly
[10:38] <Madpilot> I think he's run out of targets, but kickban on sight would seem to be the order of the day.
[10:41] <elky> bacta was pm harrassing you, Madpilot, MenZa?
[10:41] <Madpilot> just two PMs after I kickbanned him, which I ignored
[10:42] <Madpilot> first was just "Hai!", and the 2nd I closed without reading...
[10:42] <elky> he's blaming alcohol to me in PM now
[10:42] <Madpilot> it was just going to be more outraged confused-innocent bullshit, judging by type
[10:43] <Madpilot> convenient. kickbans should encourage him to go sleep it off, then.
[10:54] <Madpilot> must crash. have fun, everyone.
[11:05] <MenZa> elky: I received a 'Hai', but didn't feel a need to reply.
[11:06] <MenZa> Sorry, I stepped out for lunch :)
[11:07] <elky> note #wikipedia
[11:07] <MenZa> ?
[11:09] <elky> the places he used to troll before were ubuntu channels, freenode, defocus, wikipedia and wordpress
[11:10] <elky> (those are the ones i'm aware of anyway)
[11:10] <MenZa> Aha.
[11:10] <MenZa> His name seems familiar.
[11:10] <MenZa> May have picked it up somewhere
[11:10] <MenZa> Of course, that might just be Ubuntu.
[11:10] <elky> he's been around a while
[11:11] <elky> he's the one who used to join #u and ask when "masturbating monkeys" would be released.
[11:19] <MenZa> Aha.
[11:32] <DJones> There's a bot in #ubuntu [[RX-Bot
[11:32] <niko> a supybot yes
[11:32] <DJones> its started replying to users
[11:32] <DJones> is it an official one?
[11:33] <DJones> I guess not, thanks elky
[14:42] <bazhang> ulp problem with my chanserv.py
[14:45] <bazhang> ah never mind, he was already muted
[15:14] <ikonia> nice catch jpds
[15:15] <jpds> Again?
[15:15] <bazhang> heh
[15:15] <ikonia> no, I'm just slow
[15:16] <jussi01> good morning!
[15:19] <ikonia> morning usa traveller
[16:14] <ikonia> dholbach: ping
[16:15] <dholbach> ikonia: pong
[16:15] <ikonia> dholbach: got 2 minutes ?
[16:15] <dholbach> ikonia: sure
[16:15] <ikonia> super
[19:45] <Tm_T> hmm, should !list also mention topic?
[19:48] <tsimpson> depends if the people who do !list are really interested...
[19:48] <tsimpson> !list
[19:50] <tsimpson> Tm_T: maybe just a "see the channel topic" at the end of the first sentence?
[19:50] <Tm_T> tsimpson: yes, that's what I'm thinking
[19:51] <tsimpson> I think it's probably a good idea, at least pointing their attention to the topic
[19:51] <tsimpson> Tm_T: go for it :)
[19:51] <Tm_T> tsimpson: as people should care topic
[19:51] <Tm_T> roger
[19:52] <Tm_T> let's see if I remember this...
[19:52] <tsimpson> use !no
[19:53] <Tm_T> !no list is <reply> This is not a file sharing channel (or network), also read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »
[19:53] <tsimpson> !list
[19:54] <tsimpson> better
[19:55] <Mamarok> also please read ... ?
[19:57] <tsimpson> we're not asking ;p
[19:58] <Flannel> !list =~ s/, also/; be sure to/
[19:58] <Mamarok> I always say please... :/
[20:06] <Tm_T> Mamarok: I typically too
[20:07] <nalioth> xxx <reply> This is not a file sharing channel (or network), commands of interest are /topic , !bot or [fill in more !factoids here]
[20:07]  * jussi01 is the spam master... :D
[20:07] <jussi01> commands of interest are not in /ttopic...
[20:08] <Mamarok> ttopic?
[20:08] <jussi01> tyep fauil..
[20:08] <jussi01> :P
[20:08] <Tm_T> jussi01: I have no cash ):
[20:08] <jussi01> again
[20:09] <nalioth> jussi01: for those people who want to !ask !questions, /topic is the same number of chars
[20:10] <jussi01> oh... Read fail...
[20:10]  * jussi01 shuts up
[21:12] <guntbert> rationale behind my edit request: there is an increasing number of people asking for help with something like: hey, help me with my problem, see <some pastebin> or <some forum thread>
[21:13] <jussi01> !elaborate | guntbert
[21:13] <jussi01> !details
[21:14] <jussi01> hrm
[21:14] <guntbert> jussi01: I requested to amend !details with Please give us full details here in the channel.....
[21:15] <jussi01> guntbert: Lets think about it. We dont want to increase the channel trafic
[21:15] <jussi01> but we dont want drive by drops either
[21:16] <guntbert> jussi01: thats fine with me - I just noticed those people are coming and expecting us to look into their problem without stating at least its nature
[21:17] <jussi01> yeah, perhaps we should add something a bout stating the nature...
[21:17] <guntbert> yeah - and then something else and .... (I forget myself :-)
[21:18] <guntbert> but I guess you don't need any more input from me - so bye - thx for your ongoing support
[21:18] <jussi01> I way too tired to think about it now, so perhaps someone else can weigh in or we can discuss later
[21:19] <guntbert> have nice dreams :-)