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digitalfiz	wuffi600, i had that happen i just ran update again and it cleared up	00:00
mleger	hello, this might be a stupid question, but has anyone installed chromium browser? is it stable and safe to use on ubuntu?	00:00
thiebaude	mleger, i use chrome and very stable	00:00
thiebaude	its	00:00
randomusr	mleger, chromium is evil	00:01
mleger	randomusr why?	00:01
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mleger	thiebaude it's not an official release right? its just based on the source code of chrome?	00:01
randomusr	data miner seeking everything you do	00:01
thiebaude	mleger, exactly	00:01
wuffi600	digitalfiz, i've run it maybe then times but always get the same errormessage: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>	00:01
mleger	thiebaude, I'll give it a try... thanks!	00:02
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thiebaude	np	00:02
choreal	screw it ill just remove python and reinstall	00:02
randomusr	chromium is the devil	00:02
archet45	Error unmounting: umount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:	00:02
archet45	umount: only root can unmount /dev/sdb2 from /media/sdb2	00:02
archet45	anyone recognize that error message when mounting/unmounting a drive?	00:02
Pino	hola	00:02
mementomori	hi	00:03
mleger	randomusr, why do you say that?	00:03
renz	just installed karmic - having a strange problem with sound, every so often it cuts out completely, have to mute/unmute to get sound back	00:03
drink_sti	is it possible to run the ubuntu iso in windows? stupid question i know but just wondering...	00:03
mementomori	drink_sti: use it inside a virtual machine	00:03
wuffi600	can i temporarily disable the key-verification when doing a "aptitude update" or "apt-get update"?	00:03
renz	drink_sti: using a vm, yep, try vmware	00:03
drink_sti	thanks	00:03
chad_	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	00:04
drink_sti	has anyone here installed ubuntu on a hp pavillion laptop?	00:04
Sogorukuhn	Hi @ all	00:04
wojciechorama	Guys what is mon0 and is it possible to change value of it ?	00:04
Sogorukuhn	Is it possible to use different wallpapers on different desktops?	00:05
thiebaude	Sogorukuhn, i haven't found a way to	00:05
Sogorukuhn	=(	00:06
thiebaude	Sogorukuhn, yea, i know	00:06
Sogorukuhn	At the moment I try to customize the Style of my Gnome	00:07
Sogorukuhn	Any ideas how to make it more individual?	00:07
drink_sti	is vmware free?	00:07
barnaclebarnes	my mysql server won't start and from what I've investigated so far it is becasue my loop back interface isn't up. Trying to run sudo ifup lo I get these errors - http://gist.github.com/239161 Any ideas of what is going wrong?	00:08
thiebaude	!theme	00:08
ubottu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	00:08
pipegeek	drink_sti: beer, not speech	00:08
thiebaude	!emerald	00:08
ubottu	emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.	00:08
pipegeek	drink_sti: and it depends on the version	00:09
zopiac	the icon for my Blender launcher in Cairo-dock is not letting me change it, can anyone help??	00:09
Sogorukuhn	thx	00:09
thiebaude	what is the supported alternative to emerald?	00:10
drink_sti	pipegeek: im on the vmware site and there are so many options. which one should i use to run this program?	00:10
syrius	how safe is it to install a program with a install script .sh to install it with?	00:11
randomusr	I-am-On-WinXP; I'm sorry to hear that	00:11
syrius	it downloads the programs need to comoile	00:11
pipegeek	drink_sti: what do you want to do? If you want to set up a new vm (if you don't have a prebuilt vm image) you probably want vmware server, which is free as in beer	00:12
syrius	randomusr there is no windows version for current cinepaint	00:12
Sogorukuhn	One more question about the wallpaper. I have 2 monitors at the office and the nvidia driver. Both monitors are configured in the nvidia driver as 1 and when I set a wallpaper it looks not so good. Is there another way as dublicate the wallpaper with gimp to one doupblewallpaper?	00:12
randomusr	syrius? do what?	00:12
drink_sti	i just want to run ubuntu on my laptop to see what hardware problems i might have before i stick with it.	00:14
pipegeek	drink_sti: in that case, you don't want vmware	00:14
I-am-On-WinXP	lol	00:14
jeffmr	is there a preference panel for disabling bluetooth on startup	00:15
pipegeek	drink_sti: if you install ubuntu in a virtual machine, it'll be running on virtualized hardware, and you won't find out about issues with the real hardware	00:15
pipegeek	drink_sti: Download the livecd image, and boot off it. You'll get to a full desktop, and won't have to install anything	00:15
pipegeek	then, if you want to install it, just double-click the 'install' icon	00:15
BasketCase_Eee	this is probably a dumb question but in Netbook Remix 9.10 how do I organize or sort the icons for programs?	00:15
dr3mro	hey guys what do you thnk about Listen Music Player is it good	00:16
pcbuilder97	why would my webcam work with youtube but not work with ustream?? dont they use the same plugin?	00:16
drink_sti	pipegeek: i would like to set up dualboot but from what i read theres alot more to do than say if u have xp and vista. im still real new to linux and would like to mess around with it.	00:16
pipegeek	drink_sti: sure. What I'm suggesting is that, if you want to mess around, you boot off the CD and don't install it at all	00:17
pipegeek	you'll have a full linux desktop, and you can install programs (into memory---they disappear when you reboot), browse the web, what have you	00:17
chad_	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	00:17
I-am-On-WinXP	this chat rom is on fire	00:18
drink_sti	pipegeek: thanks for the info. ill try that out.	00:18
DaveyAM	hi guys.. tell me how i can hide all icons in only 1 desktop...? i can do it in gnome?	00:20
BasketCase_Eee	hmmm, now that I look harder it appears that the games and favorites tabs are the only ones that aren't sorted. the favs I can kinda sort by removing and adding them in the proper order (kinda lame) and the games seem to be sorted by an undisplayed category which I would like to change	00:20
slide	Is there a support channel for Ubuntu One?	00:21
user_	hi	00:21
DaveyAM	pls.. no idea..?	00:21
pipegeek	drink_sti: if you really want it in a vm, though, you can download one of the images at the following link, and run it in vmware player (which is really simple to use): http://chrysaor.info/?page=ubuntu	00:21
dustin	Hey all, don't send me to wiki page, I have read wiki over and over there is no answer for me there. I dual boot Ubuntu9.10 and Win7. It was working now I updated the system (which may or may not have had a grub update, idk) and now I can not boot into my Win7 partition. Here is a pastebin of my grub.cfg http://pastebin.com/mb5d41dd	00:21
LjL	slide: #ubuntuone	00:22
user_	hi everybody	00:23
dustin	Anyone able to help me and my grub issue	00:24
user_	no idea	00:24
dustin	Oh yea, when I select Windows 7 it just takes me back to the grub select OS page, no error or anything	00:24
dustin	Why are there so many people in the chat, yet no-one knows anything?	00:26
Snausages	dustin: way it goes. Try back later	00:26
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chad_	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	00:28
chad_	please	00:28
barnaclebarnes	well I finally worked our why the iflo up wasn't working. the ssh port was missing from the /etc/iptables.up.rules file.	00:28
MadSeaDog	Is it possible to isolate some bad sector and create a partition with onlygood sector?	00:29
treebuey	trrrr	00:29
Snausages	MadSeaDog: that should already be happening under the radar, unless the bad sector list has overflowed on that drive	00:30
MadSeaDog	Snausages, okay... if Gparted tell me the hard drive has 59 bad sector... and windows refuse to boot is it overflowed?	00:31
treebuey	hiya. My fonts are messed up for firefox menus after the last update. also, a cyrillic like character is showing up whenver i am at a password prompt WITHIN xwindows. any ideas?	00:31
Snausages	MadSeaDog: I don't know how gparted makes its count. Typically the host PC can't see any bad sectors at all, even when there are some, because the drive hardware already reallocated them to spare sectors	00:32
Snausages	MadSeaDog: I guess the thing to do is pull the SMART status for that drive, see if you have a matching count of 59 reallocations	00:32
MadSeaDog	Snausages, how can i do that?	00:33
arand	How can I force a window to a specific viewport despite it being started/refocussed/changing? the compiz settings only seem to do that when the application starts.	00:33
Snausages	MadSeaDog: dunno off the top of my head	00:33
ubuntu	does ubuntu 9.10 comes with a irc. client by default? I cant find one	00:33
digitalfiz	is there an easy way to make apache startup a 2nd time on another port by a different user?	00:33
ubuntu	and looks like emphaty doesnt has irc support	00:33
ubuntu	empathy	00:34
Vonnick	Yes it does	00:34
Snausages	MadSeaDog: maybe try installing smartmontools?	00:34
Vonnick	You have to skip the initial account creation and do it from the menu	00:34
Vonnick	Then there's an IRC option	00:34
MadSeaDog	Snausages, ok... is it in the repos?	00:35
ubuntu	lool	00:35
Snausages	MadSeaDog: dunno, but it ought to be	00:35
ubuntu	I wish sometimes that ubuntu had irssi	00:36
oxy_	I downloaded the nvidia video card drivers from nvidia and the file is a .run file (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.42-pkg2.run). How do I install this?	00:36
Snausages	MadSeaDog: in modern drives, when a sector goes bad the HDD reallocates it to a spare sector before the host PC is ever aware of it. So if your machine is telling you there are 59 bad sectors... that makes me think it may actually be 59 + all the ones that the SMART system has already compensated for...	00:36
ubuntu	bbl	00:36
SuBsAm	is there any on line tv program in ubuntu	00:36
SuBsAm	?	00:37
Vonnick	There's probably some totem plugins for it	00:37
jolaren	What's wrong here?	00:37
jolaren	joel@joel-laptop:/usr/share/hal/fdi/information$ setkeycodes e078 30-keymap-lg.fdi	00:37
jolaren	Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console	00:37
Vonnick	If not, try Miro	00:37
jolaren	Been testing for hours	00:37
Snausages	MadSeaDog: and yes, there are ways to format around bad sectors, but I don't know the particulars.	00:37
jolaren	How do I set the kecode	00:37
SuBsAm	can i watch an online channels in linux	00:39
jolaren	Anyone?= Cry	00:39
oxy_	How do I stop my X server and get to a command line only so that I can install my Nvidia video drivers???	00:39
SuBsAm	?	00:39
inveratulo	oxy_ 'killall xorg'	00:39
SuBsAm	can i watch an online channels in linux ?	00:39
wick94	hi	00:39
arand	oxy_: first of all, does the driver in the ubuntu repositories not works for you? Secondly, if yuo want to install it, start a terminal and do "sudo ./file.run" (replace "file")	00:39
wick94	can any1 hlp me i m having a problem with synaptic package manager	00:39
chad_	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	00:40
DaveyAM	hi guys.. tell me how i can hide all icons in only 1 desktop...? i can do it in gnome?	00:40
DaveyAM	pls.. no idea..?	00:40
gnufreex	SuBsAm, what chanels?	00:40
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wick94	evry time i run synaptic package managr it says e: dpkg was interrupted, your must manually start 'sudo dpkg -configure -a	00:41
SuBsAm	on line tv channels	00:41
wick94	how can i fix tht	00:41
oxy_	arand: when i do the "sudo ./file.run" it says it can't install because X server is running. Also, I thought I was was supposed to go to hardware drivers to get nvidia driver working, but there were no options there. Should I instead check in synaptic?	00:41
SuBsAm	gnufreex on line tv channels	00:41
arand	oxy_: first go to tty: ctrl+alt+F2 (+F7 to get back) then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"	00:41
gnufreex	try Miro	00:41
oddhyena	hi.	00:41
yacc_	MadSeaDog, but a hdd that is so far gone that it cannot remap sectors anyway is clearly failing. fast.	00:41
SuBsAm	gnufreex like orbit and art	00:41
oddhyena	does anyone know how to send alsa output through jack	00:41
wick94	any1	00:41
wick94	hlp plzzzzzzzzzz	00:41
wick94	i have a problm with synaptic manager	00:42
arand	oxy_: hmm, well it might be something odd with your card model...	00:42
yacc_	MadSeaDog, mke2fs for example has the option -c => slow	00:42
MadSeaDog	yacc_, do you think it worth try saving it? or direct buy another?	00:42
wick94	hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo	00:43
oddhyena	i'm trying to output alsa through jack so that I can use recordmydesktop since the alsa option doesn't work.	00:43
wick94	hlpppppppppppppppppppppp plllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz	00:43
gnufreex	SuBsAm , did you tried Miro Internet TV. It is in software centar	00:43
oxy_	arand: It's a fairly common card. Geforce GTX 260	00:43
yacc_	In almost any normal situation it's not worth trying to safe it.	00:43
MadSeaDog	yacc_, it's a ntfs partition...	00:43
SuBsAm	gnufreex not working	00:43
yacc_	MadSeaDog, modern hdds (as in the last 15 years or longer) do black sector remapping automatically.	00:44
oxy_	arand: Maybe there is nothing in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers because when I first opened that i didn't have a live internet connection?	00:44
seidos	when i paste text from vim to firefox, firefox freezes. it's quite a bit of text though	00:44
Snausages	MadSeaDog: seeing so many bad blocks counted from any tool would scare me into replacing the disk	00:44
yacc_	So even if you have an unrecoverable error, when you overwrite the sector it should go good again, because the hdd remaps it to a reserved area of blocks.	00:44
seidos	i'm using firefox 3.6 beta 1 though	00:44
yacc_	"unrecoverable read error"	00:44
yacc_	If you have an unrecoverable write error that usually means that the hdd has run out of replacement sectors.	00:45
oxy_	arand: Ill figure it out. Thanks for the help.	00:45
arand	oxy_: might be, in that case you could try installing from synaptic instead to do it the "ubuntu way"	00:45
seidos	wasn't a freeze, just took like 3 minutes to paste the text. I think it's like 3 paragraphs	00:45
yacc_	So if you don't happen to be in the nowhere, with the next PC shop hundreds of miles away, ...	00:45
oddhyena	did you try doing a hard format on the hard disk?	00:45
MadSeaDog	yacc_ so simply make it rearrenge the partition might be good enough?	00:45
yacc_	oddhyena, wrong decade ;)	00:46
MadSeaDog	Snausages, would have tough the same...	00:46
seidos	and it pasted a lot of blank lines	00:46
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oddhyena	doesn't writing zeros to the entire disk count as a format?	00:46
yacc_	MadSeaDog, no you've got the equivalent of a car engine that is producing a thick black fume behind the car.	00:46
yacc_	oddhyena, no, for real lowlevel formats you need usually vendor specific utilities.	00:47
yacc_	MadSeaDog, It's also an economic question.	00:47
yacc_	Madkiss, OTOH, you can get 500GB hdds nowadays for ~40€ easily.	00:47
neal__	hey, i have an interesting question for someone	00:48
MadSeaDog	yacc_, hehe i see the picture! i guess gonna go for a new one...	00:48
nikolam	hm, how do you guys make monitor actually tirn itself off when screen saver stars, instead of just being black	00:48
neal__	is it possible to record a voice conversation using a modem	00:48
darrend	does anyone know if this pulseaudio nonsense is being addressed by the devs?	00:48
darrend	(i.e. it crashing apps every 20 mins)	00:48
oddhyena	i already asked about the modem recording a long time ago and got no answer XD	00:48
neal__	oddhyena, thats too bad	00:49
neal__	i'm sure it can be done, just now sure how	00:49
plainas	neal__ modem stands for modulator/demodulator, unless your modem comes with a recorder (which sounds unlikely) the answer is no	00:49
arand	darrend: that is probably a specific issue, is it reported as abug?	00:49
neal__	i was thinking of using mgetty then say cat it into /dev/dsp or somesuch	00:49
yacc_	MadSeaDog, so you have to question yourself is your data worth less than 1€ per 12.5GB?	00:49
jolaren	(where scancode is either xx or e0xx, given in hexadecimal,\n"	00:50
jolaren	" and keycode is given in decimal)\n"	00:50
neal__	well the modem can receive voicemail and fax, so i don't see a reason that you couldn't listen in	00:50
darrend	arand: there seem to be several already posted with many people reporting confirmations in comments.	00:50
oddhyena	i had a modem that I could hear stuff over the phone lines with when I tried to play multiplayer doom, I used my friend's phone number and I could hear "hello? hello?"	00:50
darrend	arand: sound worked perfectly in jaunty, now it's totally broken :(	00:51
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oddhyena	is it possible to route alsa audio through jack?	00:51
plainas	neal__: where does it dumps the fax to?	00:51
yacc_	neal__, with a softmodem probably => a softmodem is nothing more than a sound card with the hookup to the phone line.	00:51
MadSeaDog	yacc_, this is not mine... i got to save it ... gonna ask that question to the owner...	00:52
jolaren	How do I make a unknown key known?	00:52
gerzel	When I am logged into the console (as in ubuntu server w/no x session running logged in with keyboard monitor directly connected to the box) is there a way to adjust the font size on the screen? I'd like to make it smaller so I can fit more info on the screen	00:52
plainas	it should be possible to connect a modem to a computer and make a phone val	00:52
yacc_	Basically the important thing is that when the first unrecoverable write error pops up, the drive has already used up a sizeable chunk of replacement sectors, ...	00:52
plainas	in that case your modem would have to be able to route a sound signal	00:53
plainas	directly to the phone line	00:53
MadSeaDog	yacc_, so after 59 ...	00:53
yacc_	OTOH, I personally do have a 250GB USB drive that is slowly failing, and it's quite ok, [48690.377652] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Sense Key : Recovered Error [current] [descriptor]	00:53
yacc_	Because I only store "worthless" stuff on it, actually I use it as a staging area for torrent data ;)	00:53
arand	darrend: well, the only thing to do, if it's reported correctly, is to monitor the bugreport for updates, or go ahead yourself and test/provide patches.	00:54
Vantrax	anyone know of a FOSS solution like Zenworks or CSSM	00:54
Snausages	MadSeaDog: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html	00:55
plainas	anyway, can anybody tell me where can i read about the latest integration of launchpad and aptitude	00:55
pixie_pie	can anyone tell me the fastest way to install ubuntu lts on my vmware?	00:55
Sierradump	Can someone help me with Xorg.conf? I just need to set resolution to 720p (1280x720) but I also need to adjust something like horizontal and vertical frequencies? But I don't know what they should be set to?	00:55
Sierradump	Is there a way to figure that out?	00:55
arand	pixie_pie: some sites provide downloadable vm images, that'd probably be the fastest, otherwise, just grab an iso and install as you would a normal machine.	00:56
Vantrax	pixie_pie, use an iso as a virtual drive	00:56
plainas	pixie_pie: download the iso and choose boot from iso	00:56
yacc_	MadSeaDog, You could try to read out the S.M.A.R.T. data if available, but I think that experience is clear on this one.	00:56
benc	I want to use upstart to control a server. My server has a script that kills it but upstart also kills the process. what I should do?	00:56
pixie_pie	and what is the latest lts ?	00:56
Vantrax	8.04	00:56
pixie_pie	thanks	00:56
Vantrax	or wait for 10.04	00:56
seidos	Sierradump: i think your best bet would be to compare your xorg.conf to another xorg.conf file that has the sections you need	00:56
pixie_pie	sorry, arand, but can you clarify what is the vm image and how can i know it is a safe website to download this from?	00:57
pixie_pie	and if you know of a safe site, can you recommend one to me?	00:58
seidos	Sierradump: i'd show you mine, but it doesn't have what you need, i think because of my graphics driver	00:58
holmser	I need to install windows on another partition for school... how do I reinstall grub after that?	00:58
MadSeaDog	allright folks thanks a lot! ... i guess i have a lot of reading to do! See ya!	00:58
yacc_	pixie_pie, the vmware website should have some images.	00:58
pixie_pie	thanks	00:58
gusan0r_	buenas	00:59
oddhyena	is it possible to get alsa through jack so that I can record it's output?	00:59
holmser	can I reinstall grub with the ubuntu boot disk?	00:59
Random832	in sound preferences I have the option to take volume higher than 100% - is there a way to enable this for the tray volume and the keyboard volume buttons?	00:59
yacc_	pixie_pie, http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/cat/508	00:59
pixie_pie	thanks yacc_	00:59
gerzel	I'd like to set a higher resoultion when using term, as in init level 2 on Ubuntu server how do I do that?	01:00
chad_	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	01:00
holmser	on a completely unrelated note, anyone know where I can find labels for my ubuntu disks?	01:00
pixie_pie	yacc_ sorry... just a few more questions. On this site, there is LTS Server and Desktop and also there apear to be different "brands", Linhost, WMPlanet, etc	01:01
pixie_pie	How do I know which one to get?	01:01
yacc_	brands == people who have made it.	01:02
plainas	how do i install a launchpad branch through apt? can't find the docs anywhere	01:02
yacc_	pixie_pie, browse and see which one you like, kind of.	01:02
oddhyena	does anyone know how I can record the output from pulseaudio? like have all the applications' audio output be dumped to a file? or is there a way to have pulseaudio output to jack?	01:02
pixie_pie	yacc_ so that could be.... a security issue, no? isn't it safer to burn the iso image?	01:02
yacc_	LTS == LongTermSupport	01:02
yacc_	pixie_pie, it's safer, but you have to install it yourself.	01:03
pixie_pie	yacc_ ok i think i'll do the lts then	01:03
pixie_pie	from iso	01:03
pixie_pie	thanks	01:03
pixie_pie	hm wait	01:03
arand	gerzel: 9.10? upgraded or on grub2?	01:03
pixie_pie	if you were me, yacc_ would you choose vmPlanet or LinHost... and LTS or server =)	01:03
pixie_pie	thanks	01:03
yacc_	pixie_pie, as I happen to have a collection of CD images lying around on my disc, I'd just install it normally ;)	01:04
* chad_ needs help		01:04
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pixie_pie	yea because i just realized i don't have any blank discs	01:04
pixie_pie	hm	01:04
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gerzel	arand: latest release so 9.10, re-installing now (different reason dev server so I'm making lots of mistakes on a box I can afford to make them on)	01:04
arand	pixie_pie: you don't need to bunr the iso to install it in a vm	01:04
pixie_pie	oh. i don't know how to do it though... can you give me some keywords to google how to do it then?	01:05
Redeemed	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	01:05
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Redeemed	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	01:07
oddhyena	Redeemed, did you try apt-get purge?	01:07
pixie_pie	and alos, are the images for vmware just like the real ubuntu?	01:07
lubosz	hi	01:08
Dallas	anyone able to help with this? I just installed the psb video driver for dell netbook on jaunty, the only way I can get it back to the UI is to use the "low graphics mode" anyone know how to configure this to work correctly?	01:08
lubosz	when i want a service to not start at boot, do i have to rename it in EVERY runlevel from S to K?	01:08
intern	tcom.com/live	01:08
intern	doh	01:08
intern	www.pauldotcom.com/live	01:08
Funzo	what's the shortcut to seperate the console from X when the screen is flickering?	01:09
pixie_pie	NM i get it.	01:09
pixie_pie	But can anyone tlel me WHERE to download ubuntu 8.04? Every time I click on a link for it, i get 9.10	01:10
pixie_pie	arg nm	01:10
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krunk-	Funzo: I assume you're asking that on my behalf :)	01:10
Funzo	yeah	01:10
kruqn	anyone use the keryx program? im trying to download packages for install on my linux computer in order to mount an ntfs raid	01:10
nilo	hi every body	01:11
Funzo	ah I'll google it hold on	01:11
kruqn	the linux computer doesn't have internet so im trying to download these files on my laptop	01:11
nilo	I have the next message when I try to upgrade my ubuntu 9.10	01:11
kruqn	when i try to download the new package list it doesn't work, i get a bunch of unable to extract files errors for each list i download, if i try to open the files it doesn't work, many are like 1kb or 0kb	01:12
nilo	"Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible	01:12
Redeemed	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	01:12
Jordan_U	kruqn: Are you behind a proxy?	01:12
kruqn	if i try to use the default list then the packages i download are corrupt, many again are 1kb about 340 bytes or so, and i am unable to download them	01:13
nilo	what's wrong??	01:13
kruqn	not that i know of jordan, im using my cell phone as a mobile modem	01:13
p0rpus_meat	I am using nvidia-settings to try and set up dual screens. All screens are detected fine, and all settings seem good and normal but when I click on "Save to X configuration file", I get errors. The errors are at http://pastebin.com/d2dc63a12 please help.	01:14
vocal	yea nvidia did that shit too me the i could not get x to start after reboot	01:14
kruqn	sorry i got dc'd	01:15
kruqn	anyways i dont think im behind a proxy	01:15
kruqn	some of the files download fine	01:15
kruqn	others dont work, so i figured it was because the list was out of date, but i can't update the list	01:15
arand	gerzel: you need the gfxpayload=x option for the kernel afaik	01:16
Jordan_U	kruqn: Do you ever have to log in via the browser to connect to the internet through your phone?	01:16
Redeemed	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	01:16
pixie_pie	does anyone know what default version of ubuntu is installed when you choose to install linux/ubuntu on vmware?	01:17
pixie_pie	i've just done that but i don't know how to get the version of ubuntu i want.... thanks	01:17
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Jordan_U	pixie_pie: Installing Ubuntu in a virtual machine is just like installing Ubuntu in a real machine, except you tell vmware to boot from the Ubuntu .iso rather than having to write the .iso to disk. Whatever version of Ubuntu you download will be the one you install.	01:19
pixie_pie	Jordan_U but there is adefault here	01:20
pixie_pie	i did not choose which version	01:20
pixie_pie	yet it boots up to a version	01:20
innociv	I have a build.sh file and doing sudo ./build.sh isn't running it	01:20
pixie_pie	i chose the generic instructions from vmware	01:20
innociv	What am I doing wrong? :\	01:20
lstarnes	innociv: sudo sh build.sh	01:20
lstarnes	innociv: or sudo bash build.sh	01:20
Jordan_U	pixie_pie: Can you link to those instructions?	01:20
innociv	bunch of permission denied	01:20
pixie_pie	no because there were no instructions	01:21
pixie_pie	i just hit install new os	01:21
CoverSlide	permission denied with sudo?	01:21
dmill2010\|Mac	pixie_pie did you download a ubuntu iso or are you using a version straight from vmware?	01:21
pixie_pie	and then i chose linux/ubuntu	01:21
Redeemed	I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?	01:21
emma	pixie_pie: is it set executable?	01:21
pixie_pie	the latter, dmill2010	01:21
dmill2010\|Mac	hmm	01:21
oddhyena	will it break audio if I compiled pulseaudio from source	01:22
ryaxnb	installing KDE, Xfce and LXDE...	01:22
ryaxnb	i discovered a buug	01:22
jeffmr	anyone know why justin.tv flash streams don't work?	01:22
diplomatic	someones gotta know what ima talkin about... im looking for a package that might affect the way images are handled and it starts with the letter G	01:22
ryaxnb	sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop creates dependency problems	01:22
jeffmr	diplomatic, gimp?	01:23
p0rpus_meat_	I got DC'd so sorry	01:23
p0rpus_meat_	Anytime I try to "Save to X configuration file" when I make ANY kind of changes in nvidia-settings I get these errors i pasted at http://pastebin.com/d2dc63a12 Any ideas.... anyone....???	01:23
ryaxnb	It proposes removing network manager, which is not a good solution ((!))	01:23
diplomatic	i dont think so...	01:23
CoverSlide	it says it's no longer needed or it says it needs to remove it?	01:23
diplomatic	guld or somthing like taht	01:23
jeffmr	did you check software center or get-apt	01:24
innociv	cover, yeppp	01:24
innociv	probably the build file permsisions	01:24
jeffmr	diplomatic, synaptic	01:24
diplomatic	nah	01:24
dmill2010\|Mac	im just curious, how did everyone primarily learn linux?	01:25
oddhyena	how would I add jack support to pulseaudio without having to compile pulseaudio, since it won't compile	01:25
Mike_lifeguard	Do folks know anything about the notify-osd bug where the notifications aren't actually in the corner?	01:25
gerzel	arand: grub 2	01:25
gerzel	thanks	01:26
jeffmr	dmill2010\|Mac, install, read, read man, read, read forums, chat	01:26
dmill2010\|Mac	jeffmr hehe similiar to what i've done	01:26
oddhyena	i guess if it can't be done in windows then it can't be done in linux XD	01:27
digeratiX	have the issues with the MSI Wind and 9.10 been fixed?	01:27
jeffmr	dmill2010\|Mac, yeah you have to experience it to learn it	01:27
RebelZero	Mike_lifeguard, that's not a bug but done by design	01:27
arand	gerzel: semms to require trickery though: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41881	01:28
arand	diplomatic: "aptitude search searchterm"	01:28
dmill2010\|Mac	Agreed, you do learn a lot better by doing	01:28
jeffmr	dmill2010\|Mac, what mac do you have if you have one	01:28
dmill2010\|Mac	a last gen macbook	01:28
p0rpus_meat_	If I make a change in display configuration in nvidia-settings, I HAVE to click on "Save to X configuration file" in order for those changes to go into effect, but I get errors. These errors and my xorg.conf are paste at http://pastebin.com/d4b6c8335 Please help.	01:28
Mike_lifeguard	RebelZero: Wait, what? Why wouldn't it go in the corner? It used to be in the corner. The configuration says it should go in the corner... O__o	01:28
jeffmr	dmill2010\|Mac, does everything work?	01:29
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dmill2010\|Mac	jeffmr, with some tweaking but yes	01:29
dmill2010\|Mac	the microphone still has been giving me issues though	01:29
jeffmr	dmill2010\|Mac, I can't get backight keys and dashboard and expose to work	01:30
dmill2010\|Mac	but i primarily use OSX on it and use virtualbox if i want to use ubuntu	01:30
RebelZero	Mike_lifeguard, if i can find it, there was an explanation of why they aren't exactly in the corner	01:30
dmill2010\|Mac	jeffmr ah, mine doesn't have the backlight keys	01:30
digeratiX	have the issues with the MSI Wind and 9.10 been fixed?	01:30
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Dallas	anyone able to help with this? I just installed the psb video driver for dell netbook on jaunty, the only way I can get it back to the UI is to use the "low graphics mode" anyone know how to configure this to work correctly?	01:31
jeffmr	dmill2010\|Mac, last generation do you mean latest or earliest?	01:31
johnathon	hello	01:31
dmill2010\|Mac	jeffmr and i never tried to use expose or spaces while in linux	01:31
dmill2010\|Mac	jeffmr I mean it was the latest macbook before they redid the design with the unibody plastic ones	01:31
johnathon	i have had trouble with the wireless cards after updating in Ubuntu 9.10 and it is a fresh install.	01:32
johnathon	has anyone else had this problem	01:32
jeffmr	johnathon, what problems	01:32
tsunami	hi, I am customizing an opensource app and was wondering if there is a preferred diff tool and if anyone can point me toward some docs. I've never used diff tools before and am quite new to development	01:33
johnathon	the wireless says disconnected even after i unconnected it and reconnect it	01:33
jeffmr	johnathon, mine sometimes flakes out and disconnects	01:33
Dallas	My Xorg.conf looks like: Section "Device"	01:33
Dallas	Identifier "GMA500"	01:33
Dallas	Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"	01:33
Dallas	# Option "DRI" "off"	01:33
Dallas	Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"	01:33
FloodBot1	Dallas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	01:33
Dallas	Option "IgnoreACPI" "yes"	01:33
johnathon	well my will not connect at all	01:34
jeffmr	johnathon, sta drivers for a broadcom 4322 here	01:34
Mike_lifeguard	RebelZero: I'd be really interested to read that, if you find it -- because I think that's a tad ... /off/	01:34
digeratiX	does anyone here know if the issues with the MSI Wind and 9.10 have been fixed??	01:34
johnathon	?	01:34
Mike_lifeguard	digeratiX: You'll have to state what issues those are	01:34
pixie_pie	any suggestions on how much hd space max i should give to my vmware?	01:34
pixie_pie	for ubuntu, that is	01:34
jeffmr	johnathon, can you private chat?	01:34
digeratiX	the usb ports not working	01:34
nihl	this is the help channel right?	01:34
johnathon	yes pm me	01:34
dmill2010\|Mac	pixiepie depends on how much you want to use it, probably 8-10 gigs if your just want to mess around	01:35
RebelZero	Mike_lifeguard, http://www.mail-archive.com/ayatana@lists.launchpad.net/msg00742.html	01:35
Dallas	anyone able to help with this? I just installed the psb video driver for dell netbook on jaunty, the only way I can get it back to the UI is to use the "low graphics mode" anyone know how to configure this to work correctly?	01:36
Dallas	If I'm on the righ track I should just have to modify my xorg.conf file to make it work correctly. But what I have doesn't seem to be working	01:37
Roasted	Anybody running the new beta of AWN?	01:38
Dallas	http://paste.ubuntu.com/322922/plain/	01:38
kanja2	Hey, I've got a program that opens in the same place every time, but it hides half the window - how can I change where it opens?	01:38
Mike_lifeguard	RebelZero: Thanks, I'll read the thread. Do you know if it is supposed to be impossible to change the theme or location (ie which not-quite-corner is used)?	01:39
RebelZero	Mike_lifeguard, not really. Someone in here mentioned once about a setting through gconf-editor where you could pull it down to the middle of the screen. Not sure if that's still an option.	01:42
Mike_lifeguard	RebelZero: Well, the UI to configure theme & location still exists, it just doesn't do anything, making me want to throw things at whoever did that	01:43
Mike_lifeguard	RebelZero: In any event, I see the need for proper UI designers :\	01:44
RebelZero	Mike_lifeguard, that was a big tease. I remember seeing it in Jaunty and thought it was a wasted effort.	01:44
jeffmr_	johnathan,	01:44
Mike_lifeguard	RebelZero: It was and is a waste because they didn't spec it properly, and even now it is half-done	01:45
Dallas	Anyone able to help getting the psb driver to work correctly in jaunty? I have it installed but everytime I boot I have to enter "low graphics mode" for it to work correctly. I've edited the xorg.conf with what I believe to be the correct lines, but for some reason I'm still having this problem.	01:45
tweeda	is there a client-side authN/authZ configuration utility for 9.10 desktop? I can manage the ldap.conf and krb5.conf etc by hand but if there is a decent GUI available, I'd rather use it.	01:46
dooglus	kanja2: what program?	01:47
emma	Dallas: did you see this -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-psb/+bug/330906	01:47
emma	Dallas: does that relate to your issue?	01:48
_Tavo_	Hello, I'm having trouble making gdb and eclipse work in karmic. It throws an error about not being able to find "dl-debug.c" when gdb is launched. Any ideas?	01:49
_Tavo_	I've never had this problem on earlier ubuntu versions	01:49
Dallas	emma: I don't think so. It's supposed to work under jaunty using these steps http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/	01:50
IdleOne	!find dl-debug.c	01:50
ubottu	Package/file dl-debug.c does not exist in karmic	01:50
Dallas	emma: I did that, and it did this, then I tried editing the xorg.conf file, and I get the same result.	01:51
_Tavo_	I didn't find that file either... But the error is the same even in two clean instalations of karmic (with gdb installed, of course) and even with older versions of eclipse, like 3.4	01:53
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heisoundfunny333	hello! does anyone now of the new features in 10.04?	01:55
Dallas	emma: 9.04 is the distro that ships with the dell mini 10. So I'm not sure why I can't get it to work.	01:55
kanja2	dooglus: emacs - bottom half of the window is obsured so I can't see what m-x I'm typing	01:56
IdleOne	heisoundfunny333: UDS Dallas is now in session, they are deciding on that as we speak.	01:56
emma	Dallas: I am not sure either. I'm sorry I can't help. It's over my head. I just wanted to post that link in case it was germain.	01:56
Mike_lifeguard	RebelZero: FWIW, the plans for Lucid look much better: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD	01:57
IdleOne	heisoundfunny333: try asking in #ubuntu-uds	01:57
Dallas	emma: np. thank you.	01:57
heath\|OTG	heisoundfunny333, I heard they are working towards a 10 sec boot time	01:57
jdsandeson	How dose one start a lug?	01:58
heisoundfunny333	10 seconds would be nice :)	01:58
emma	jdsandeson: that's definitely not an ubuntu support question :)	01:58
randomusr	how can I set my system to automatically install arch system updates? I'm running 9.10	01:58
heisoundfunny333	i am still pretty happy that they fixed the problem with intel video cards	01:59
randomusr	heisoundfunny333, what problem?	01:59
heisoundfunny333	video playback was choppy in 9.04 and now in 9.10 flash video playback and any other kind is smooth by far	02:00
Trustisaweakness	how stable is 9.10?	02:00
fireball	gdm fails to autoboot since 9.10 install, please help	02:01
monga	hey guys, do you know where i can get a copy of ubuntu 9.10 for 64 bit?	02:01
monga	i only see a 32 bit	02:01
heath\|OTG	fireball, you mean load on boot?	02:01
yoriel	who know the easy way to install javajdk	02:01
coop6	:SLkas;dlfja Firefox - Segmentation fault!?! anyone get this when trying to open gmail?	02:01
yoriel	and setting java_home	02:01
yoriel	?	02:01
yoriel	i try so many methods but alls fails	02:02
fireball	heath\|OTG: yes	02:02
randomusr	how can I set my system to automatically install arch system updates? I'm running 9.10	02:02
shonen	setting java_home should be, open a terminal, export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java	02:02
Taim	yoriel: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk	02:02
monga	does ubuntu make a version for 64 or only 32 bit?	02:03
isis	hi guys	02:03
Colonel_Panik	monga, you are at the right place just click around ;=)	02:03
shonen	monga: it makes it for both 64 and 32	02:03
randomusr	Blah	02:03
yoriel	ok, i do it but i define java_home to us/lib/jvm/jdkxxxx	02:03
IdleOne	randomusr: System>Administration>Software Sources> Updates	02:03
fireball	and how do i point my address at someone speciffically such that it highlight for them? or am i?	02:03
monga	on the official site it only has a download link for 32 bit	02:03
heisoundfunny333	Trustisaweakness: fairly stable the only problem i had was with a fresh install and my wireless driver did not work without some tweaking.	02:03
yoriel	ant the next step will be install apache ant	02:03
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yoriel	it dont recognize the jdk installation	02:04
yoriel	to make ant all	02:04
randomusr	IdleOne, can this be done from the command line? perhaps as a cron job?	02:04
heath\|OTG	fireball, does gdm start at all	02:04
fireball	heath\|OTG: yes, sudo gdm gets it going after login	02:04
IdleOne	randomusr: I wouldn't know how, sorry	02:04
heath\|OTG	randomusr, cron-apt	02:04
heath\|OTG	maybe	02:04
Colonel_Panik	monga, click on alternative download options	02:04
monga	ok	02:04
isis	i did install configcompiz successfully and get YES with $ glxinfo \| grep direct command... but iam not able to activate any effects.. i dont know why just then not run... :S	02:05
IdleOne	monga: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso	02:05
yoriel	Taim: i want to install opengts	02:05
fireball	heath\|OTG: first failed on upgrade. Tried a clean install, same deal. I can just catch a note about missing libraries, then on to the gdm login screen	02:05
monga	idle0ne i dont have amd	02:05
randomusr	heath\|OTG, any issue with that package as it's not marked arch with ubuntu logo?	02:05
Dallas	anyone able to help me with getting the psb drivers to function correctly under 9.04?	02:06
isis	nobody can help me with this problem...? :S	02:06
fireball	heath\|OTG: after logining in already from x. . .	02:06
IdleOne	monga: you want 64bit version then that is the one you want	02:06
monga	idleone will it be compatable with my intel?	02:07
Taim	yoriel: hrmm...That's a little more out of the range of "general Ubuntu help."	02:07
IdleOne	monga: yes	02:07
Colonel_Panik	monga, you have an intel cpu with amd dual 64bit-32bit architecture licensed from AMD	02:07
heath\|OTG	fireball, that's strange... what runlevel are you at on boot	02:07
isis	i did install configcompiz successfully and get YES with $ glxinfo \| grep direct command... but iam not able to activate any effects.. i dont know why just then not run... :Sç	02:07
isis	nobody can help me with this problem...? :S	02:07
dooglus	kanja2: I'll find out for you	02:07
rincon	what should i use to easily edit a pdf document?	02:07
lovre	hi can i remove all files within a folder structure named 'file.ext'.. I tried this, but it is not working: find \| grep 'file.ext' \| rm .....says that rm is missing an operand, so i suppose it cant except piped ones..	02:07
fireball	heath\|OTG: admin. is that what you meant?	02:07
heath\|OTG	isis compiz --replace ?	02:07
Colonel_Panik	monga, Intel is not proud of that so they don't advertise that	02:08
monga	haha	02:08
heath\|OTG	fireball, no. in a terminal type runlevel	02:08
monga	What is the difference between Wine and vmware?	02:08
randomusr	here's a good on, how do I view commands in my path from Bash?	02:08
dooglus	kanja2: try: emacs -g 80x20+100+50	02:08
dooglus	kanja2: the 80x20 is the size in characters	02:08
isis	heath\|OTG: some commando to do it?	02:08
heath\|OTG	randomusr, tab + tab	02:08
kanja2	dooglus: that would be awesome -if can you point me in the right directory I'll start looking too. I've just never had to do anything this low in x	02:08
dooglus	and the 100,50 is the location of the top left corner, in pixels	02:08
fireball	heath\|OTG: N 2	02:08
rincon	what should i use to easily edit a pdf document?	02:08
kanja2	dooglus: ahhh in emacs... hadn't thought of that	02:09
dooglus	kanja2: you can put something in your .emacs file too if you would rather	02:09
heath\|OTG	fireball, is that after a clean restart ?	02:09
isis	heath\|OTG: so... ?i must reinstall my compiz	02:09
fireball	heath\|OTG: yes	02:09
heath\|OTG	isis did that command start compiz ?	02:10
paipimenta	I've got a 9.10 client install CD.... can I do a text-only install?	02:10
fireball	heath\|OTG: i get taken straight to x real fast, asked to login. after login i type "sudo gdm", enter password and I'm back to normal	02:10
isis	heath\|OTG: i must write "start compiz" on terminal?	02:10
fireball	heath\|OTG: i tried the grub recovery option, no effect	02:11
heath\|OTG	isis just try compiz --replace and see if it changes	02:11
Taim	randomusr: "history"	02:11
Strider22	facebook photo upload does not work as it is missing a checkbox.	02:11
kanja2	dooglus: awesome, thanks!	02:11
heath\|OTG	fireball, not a grub issue. can you pastebin the following code for me: ls -la /etc/rc2.d	02:11
isis	heath\|OTG: yes..	02:11
heath\|OTG	fireball, and pastebin doesn't mean paste in channel	02:12
isis	heath\|OTG: tks..	02:12
fireball	heath\|OTG: that i know, but what do i do with it to avoid flooding?	02:12
heath\|OTG	np, isis check System->Prefs->Appearance->Visual Effects and make sure they are on in there	02:13
paipimenta	hey room... I've got a 9.10 client install CD. can I do a text-only install? it's not on the menu, but can I send an option?	02:13
heath\|OTG	fireball, http://www.pastebin.com	02:13
heath\|OTG	paste it in there and give me the URL	02:13
chuy_max	hi guys, is there any reason GDM asks me twice for my user password when I boot up?, I'm running Ubuntu 9.10	02:14
heath\|OTG	paipimenta, I believe text only is server	02:14
dooglus	kanja2: do you have a "(custom-set-variables	02:14
dooglus	" at the end of your ~/.emacs ?	02:14
Taim	paipimenta: you want the alternate install ISO.	02:14
paipimenta	Talm: yeah, I've got the server DVD, but this old laptop I just got doesn't have a CD-ROM	02:15
randomusr	heath\|OTG, how can I pipe the output of Tab + Tab to grep?	02:15
heath\|OTG	?	02:16
fireball	heath\|OTG: thanks: http://pastebin.com/d2df6cbcb	02:16
heath\|OTG	why	02:16
randomusr	why not?	02:16
Dallas	I just tried to install the psb driver using http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/ guide, after apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-psb I get the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" error. "(EE) PSB:Failed to load module "Xpsb" (module does not exist) the only way to start get to UI is to choose "Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session"	02:16
Shwack	Hey - I'm trying to sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	02:16
randomusr	it's giving me 2614 results	02:16
Arsin	Hey, I tried that command "man ifconfig && man dhclient" and it gave me a whole wack of things, but I'm not sure what they are all about	02:16
Taim	paipimenta: I do beleive there are install instructions from USB stick. Problem is, your laptop may not support booting from USB seeing as it's older...	02:16
heath\|OTG	fireball, gdm is missing in there hang on	02:16
skinnYPuP	anyone out there having probs with eth1_rename ? Here's a reference http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1868845.html	02:16
slide	will apt remove files i put in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ?	02:17
heath\|OTG	randomusr, I'm not sure you can do that	02:17
paipimenta	it's older than my desktop, and it doesn't support usb booting :-(	02:17
neon_	need some help, installed tvtime and i can get all channels but no sound, my sound card is an onboard realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd any suggestions on how i can get sound thx	02:17
slide	I had to put a script called stopblink in there and now its gone randomly	02:17
randomusr	heath\|OTG, fork	02:17
dooglus	my USB mouse no longer works in 9.10	02:17
dooglus	it was ok until about a week before release, but it's not worked since	02:17
dooglus	it stopped the same time as one of my memory sticks stopped working	02:18
Taim	dous: What is the make/model of PC and mouse?	02:18
dooglus	the other memory stick is still fine	02:18
paipimenta	how do I do a minimal install with a desktop CD for 9.10?	02:18
Taim	err	02:18
dooglus	and all 3 are fine with other PCs	02:18
dooglus	(running Windows)	02:18
Taim	dooglus: make/model of PC and mouse?	02:18
dooglus	any idea how to get a USB mouse working?	02:18
dooglus	Taim: it's a Microsoft optical thingy	02:18
Taim	dooglus: make of PC?	02:18
dooglus	Taim: but it doesn't make much different - I've tried a few other USB mice and none work	02:18
dooglus	Taim: the PC doesn't seem to have a brand	02:19
heath\|OTG	fireball, it appears they are no longer linking gdm through there give me a minute to see what starts it now	02:19
dooglus	Taim: eBuyer perhaps?	02:19
Real_Ubot	Anyone know a linux distro that will work well with lg x110 netbook?	02:19
Taim	dooglus: Do you have CPU specs, Mobo info, etc?	02:19
randomusr	what are the non-free repos for karmic?	02:19
paipimenta	Talm: Mobo?	02:19
dooglus	Taim: yeah: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173882	02:19
heath\|OTG	paipimenta, server cd	02:19
randomusr	!non-free	02:19
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about non-free	02:19
fcuk112	i am trying to configure mutt but when i try to receive mail i get fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified.	02:19
Shwack	Hey - I'm trying to sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	02:20
randomusr	!nonfree	02:20
ubottu	When we use the term 'non-free', we mean that it is not Open Source. Software that is not open source cannot be fixed or improved by anyone except the software authors -- which is not us :(	02:20
heath\|OTG	!mediabuntu	02:20
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu	02:20
Taim	dooglus: Let me check. I had a similiar problem. Wound up being something funky.	02:20
randomusr	!restricted	02:20
ubottu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	02:20
randomusr	woops	02:20
pq_	hi all	02:20
dooglus	Taim: the sticker on the bottom says "Clevo M760T"	02:20
pq_	i have some problem with X server. Can someone help me?	02:21
Taim	dooglus: touchpad works?	02:21
dooglus	Taim: yeah	02:22
dooglus	Taim: http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=88 seems more details	02:22
dooglus	Taim: the webcam and wireless adaptor also both work, and show up in "lsusb" output	02:23
dooglus	Taim: I also have no problems with an external USB webcam	02:23
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Taim	dooglus: that's just weird.	02:23
dooglus	Taim: and like I say, one USB memory stick works reliably, but the other just is never mounted	02:24
Strider22	I look like a fool on facebook because I have not been able to get photo upload to work. I've done web searches every few months for a year and followed the instructions. Still no fix. The problem is that the app takes forever to load and will only load after a restart. When it does load the app is missing a checkbox.	02:24
fireball	whilst i'm here, what command/program lists usb cameras and as much other info as possible?	02:24
dooglus	Taim: also, my mobile phone never mounts when I plug it in. it did until a week or two before release	02:24
dooglus	fireball: try lsusb?	02:24
Shwack	Hey - I'm trying to sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	02:25
neon_	need some help, installed tvtime and i can get all channels but no sound, my sound card is an onboard realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd any suggestions on how i can get sound thx	02:25
Taim	dooglus: you ran apt-get upgrade recently?	02:26
Strider22	First question is does the photo upload work for anyone using ubuntu?	02:26
Taim	Strider22: Works fine for me. Did you try clearing your history, cache and cookies?	02:27
Dallas	I just tried to install the psb driver using http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/ guide, after apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-psb I get the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" error. "(EE) PSB:Failed to load module "Xpsb" (module does not exist) the only way to start get to UI is to choose "Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session"	02:27
slide	will apt remove files i put in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ? I put a script called stopblink in there and now its gone randomly	02:27
fireball	dooglus: thanks, but no. tells me nothing i can use. I'm thinking location "/dev/video1" etc and format etc.	02:28
Shwack	found the answer to my problem :)	02:28
fireball	trying to get the correct setting for usb cameras for zoneminder, they work with cheese. . .	02:28
randomusr	what's a good free project management software?	02:28
Taim	randomusr: planner	02:29
ToasterMan	Im using 9.10 64-bit and I have flash plugin installed, but it doesn't function right. For example, a youtube video will play, but when I click on any of the actions (i.e pause, or volume change or whatever) nothing happens. It's the same with all flash across the web. All flash runs, but clicking does nothing at all.	02:29
ToasterMan	Is this a known issue?	02:29
heath\|OTG	fireball, just try dpkg-reconfigure gdm	02:29
Taim	ToasterMan: It is for me. Disable desktop effects.	02:29
_Tavo_	please, could someone tell me if eclipse debugger with gdb works in karmic? I've been trying for hours to make it work but failed miserably...	02:29
_Tavo_	I think it's something to do with gdb 7.0	02:30
kinen	does anyone know why the sound is broken in karmic after the latest update?	02:30
heath\|OTG	ToasterMan, flash for linux is horrible	02:30
ToasterMan	Taim: Yea disabling desktop effects fixed it... but why the hell does desktop effects screw flash up that badly?	02:30
ubuntu	hey bro , can you paste this on mysql chan pls: "ubuntu says: hello! i have 1 ubuntu server and its not booting. I want to copy its database file manualy. What file are the databases stored in? And is this operatiion possible ?	02:30
ubuntu	hello! i have 1 ubuntu server and its not booting. I want to copy its database file manualy. What file are the databases stored in? And is this operatiion possible ?	02:31
Taim	ToasterMan: Mnn...There is a bug on it. I don't recall exactly why, I just know that it fixes flash. My guess is that compiz does...unexpected things to mouse events...	02:31
Arsin	How do I tell if I'm using a DCHP or static ip?	02:31
heath\|OTG	is ubuntu for real	02:31
rsk	heath\|OTG sure.	02:32
heath\|OTG	Taim, ToasterMan I don't have that issue...what version of flash	02:32
ToasterMan	heath\|OTG: how do I tell what version?	02:32
Taim	heath\|OTG: 64bit package in ubunutu.	02:32
heath\|OTG	Taim, I didn't even know the 64bit package was out, I'm using the 32	02:33
randomusr	Taim: how about a charting application, like visio maybe?	02:33
heath\|OTG	randomusr, dia	02:33
Taim	randomusr: ooo...I know that......	02:33
Taim	heath\|OTG, randomusr: Thanks, heath\|OTG.	02:33
holmser	Arsin, open /etc/network/interfaces	02:34
ToasterMan	heath\|OTG: I have flashplugin-installer that is installed and it says version is 10.0.32.18ubuntu1	02:34
holmser	it will let you know your settings	02:34
ToasterMan	heath\|OTG: and yea im in 64-bit 9.10	02:34
holmser	and you can change them there	02:34
Dr_Willis	http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-flash-is-not-recognizing-mouse-clicks.html	02:34
heath\|OTG	ToasterMan, 10.1 will have 64 bit support, what video card do you have?	02:34
pq_	can someone help me with xorg configuration issues with ATI card?	02:35
joshua	I've become really disappointed in ubuntu	02:35
Arsin	holmser: auto lo iface lo inet loopback dhcp then right?	02:35
ToasterMan	heath\|OTG: Geforce GTX 260... although I think that link Dr_Willis just pasted may be the solution	02:35
Arsin	joshua: Why's that?	02:35
heath\|OTG	Arsin, that means network-manager is dealing with it and it's probably dhcp uness you set it	02:35
joshua	1. jaunty -> karmic broke X I had to downgrade X core to function	02:35
randomusr	I'm feeling more and more confident with using Ubuntu or linux in general because I can do anything that I could do in windows... but with less headaches	02:36
Dr_Willis	ToasterMan: google to the rescue. :) and i rember seeing that last week. :)	02:36
justin__	there exist multiple software packages available that perform the same functions as MS Visio	02:36
Doorman352	how do I list usb devices in ubuntu?	02:36
joshua	2. sudo isn't very smart	02:36
heath\|OTG	that sounds like a wiener	02:36
ToasterMan	Dr_Willis: Yea thanks heh :)	02:36
joshua	doorman: lspci?	02:36
MacAttack_	st	02:36
Dr_Willis	http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-flash-is-not-recognizing-mouse-clicks.html	02:36
joshua	3. something seems wrong with kde's persistance	02:36
Doorman352	joshua: doesn't show a usb device thats connected....	02:36
heath\|OTG	Doorman352, lsusb	02:37
tovella	Doorman352: lsusb.	02:37
Taim	joshua: If you don't like Karmic so well, why not stick with Jaunty. It's still supported. You can always wait for Lucid.	02:37
MacAttack_	hey	02:37
chasmarang	Karmic Update Manager is broken	02:37
Doorman352	THANKS!	02:37
Dr_Willis	some users reported that the bug with mouse clicks not working in Flash & Ubuntu was fixed by either disabling Compiz or just by disabling the show desktop plugin in Compiz.	02:37
heath\|OTG	I have upgrade 5 computers to Karmic with no issues	02:37
chasmarang	does anyone have the same problem	02:37
joshua	4. apt-get doesn't have an override "These packages work togethter thanks"	02:38
joshua	or an override "yes I have this dependency even though you can't see it"	02:38
heath\|OTG	joshua, you can always use checkinstall and install from source	02:38
randomusr	heath\|OTG: possible to insert graphics into dia	02:39
tovella	Taim: joshua: i agree.... just stick with Jaunty, for now.	02:39
Dr_Willis	Hmm.. actually i think it does joshua .. but i only recall needing todo that once a few years back.	02:39
chasmarang	My Karmic Update Manager is broken does anyone have the same problem	02:39
heath\|OTG	randomusr, yes	02:39
Dr_Willis	well work time for me. bye all	02:39
slide	will apt remove files i put in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ? I put a script called stopblink in there and now its gone randomly	02:39
chu_	chasmarang: yeah,	02:39
heath\|OTG	chasmarang, explain broken	02:39
g1er	is there an easy way to switch between say firefox and term (active apps) in jaunty?	02:39
joshua	which still leaves me at sudo was a bad idea	02:40
randomusr	heath\|OTG: lemme guess, built in?	02:40
heath\|OTG	g1er, alt+tab ?	02:40
heath\|OTG	randomusr, I imported pics in there before, don't recall how	02:40
g1er	healt\|OTG, excellent, thanks	02:40
heath\|OTG	np	02:41
zaduma	Hey anyone here know how to get easyBCD to work?	02:41
chasmarang	heath\|OTG:Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first	02:41
joshua	and last I checked jaunty's firefox was way outdated	02:41
heath\|OTG	chasmarang, from terminal apt-get install -f	02:41
Taim	joshua: you can change root's pw and use "su" instead if sudo is to your disliking.	02:41
Taim	joshua: You could always remove firefox's package and install natively.	02:42
joshua	Taim: of course I can but all the GUI admin tools don't know about that	02:42
heath\|OTG	joshua, sudo -i	02:42
heath\|OTG	or sudo su	02:42
heath\|OTG	don't enable root	02:42
chasmarang	heath\|OTG:I can try that - I was without the -f and I got it was holding back on new Kernels	02:42
joshua	remember the UAC debacle?	02:43
heath\|OTG	windows?	02:43
tovella	joshua: what does that mean, really (outdated)... a couple of versions behind? security updates still work, right.	02:43
joshua	sudo is about as secure as UAC on low	02:43
boringwall	How do you find out of a background process that you've launched but aren't waiting for has terminated? (in C)	02:43
heath\|OTG	sudo in not for novice I agree	02:43
boringwall	if*	02:43
Taim	joshua: That's a decision you can always try to correct with feature requests or development and advocating for it's inclusion.	02:43
Strider22	Cleared firefox history as requested. No change.	02:43
dotblank	joshua, I disagree	02:43
Favorit	boringwall: implement signal handler?	02:43
losha	boringwall: you can check its pid for validity...	02:44
boringwall	To handle what signal?	02:44
Taim	joshua dotblank: I agree with dotblank.	02:44
boringwall	ECHLD?	02:44
boringwall	err SIGCHLD	02:44
joshua	and some trojan does echo 'alias sudo=~/.trojan/sudo' >> /etc/bashrc	02:44
zaduma	Anyone know how to get easyBCD to work on Win7/Ubuntu 9.10 set up?	02:44
Favorit	SIGCHLD i think, yes	02:44
boringwall	Okay, thank you	02:44
joshua	and some trojan does echo 'alias sudo=~/.trojan/sudo' >> ~/.bashrc	02:44
Favorit	let me have a quick look to be sure	02:44
Strider22	When I restart firefox I can load the photo upload app once. If I push refresh then firefox hangs at 50% cpu usage (leaves the other cpu free)... Is there a debug option on java that I can set to see what it is trying to load?	02:45
chasmarang	<heath\|OTG>The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic sreadahead	02:45
Taim	joshua: You could do that with any privledged application.	02:45
heath\|OTG	chasmarang, apt-get dist-upgrade	02:45
kisuke	is it possible to have a different background image on each workspace?	02:45
chasmarang	OK	02:46
morphias	kisuke, yes. the method i know of is with compiz tho	02:46
sirninja	I'm using ubuntu 9.10. I'm using pulse audio. How do I change what channel the shortcut keys on my laptop control? Right now it does something really weird.	02:46
kisuke	morphias: how?	02:46
Electric\|Master	Hi	02:46
Electric\|Master	I'm trying to install GRUB and I'm having a problem	02:46
Favorit	boringwall: yeah, SIGCHLD	02:46
joshua	the whole point of not using sudo to me is the secure desktop thing -- no protection against any trojan whatsoever	02:46
innociv	what is the -rf equiv in chmod?	02:46
innociv	i need to chmod 755 recursively	02:47
joshua	innociv: -r	02:47
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Electric\|Master	It's giving me an error "The file /media/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly"	02:47
heath\|OTG	-R	02:47
chasmarang	its upgrading	02:47
Electric\|Master	Any ideas anyone?	02:47
Kraln	hmm, my touchpad doesn't seem to work -.-	02:47
chasmarang	actually this is degrading	02:47
chasmarang	... :D	02:48
Electric\|Master	Anyone?	02:48
Favorit	Electric\|Master: are you trying to install that on a usb stick or so?	02:48
Favorit	Electric\|Master: how did you end up with /media/root/boot... ?	02:48
zaduma	EasyBCD? Anyone know what this is?	02:48
CountDown	I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 PPC on an iBook G4. Everything seemed to work fine except suspend, which failed with a user dialog saying that the laptop didn't suspend. After looking around a bit, I modified /etc/yaboot.conf by removing the video=ofonly option and then running ybin and restarting. Now the laptop suspends, but it freezes somewhere in the resume process -- there's just a blank black screen with a frozen mouse cursor o	02:48
Electric\|Master	I'm following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows	02:48
Electric\|Master	I mounted to that like it said	02:48
Favorit	Electric\|Master: which of the methods mentioned there?	02:49
heath\|OTG	CountDown, Story of my life	02:49
Electric\|Master	Huh?	02:49
Roasted	anybody running awn dock?	02:49
Electric\|Master	What do u mean, method	02:49
morphias	kisuke, http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/	02:49
CountDown	heath\|OTG: Glad I'm not alone at least.	02:49
Favorit	Electric\|Master: ah, just the livecd, i see	02:49
heath\|OTG	Roasted, get cairo-dock	02:49
Kraln	FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU	02:49
Electric\|Master	Oh, yeah	02:49
CountDown	heath\|OTG: Did you manage to fix it or find any hints?	02:49
Roasted	heat OTG - al ready tried it	02:49
Kraln	the touchpad wasn't workingbecause I had it disabled with a soft key	02:49
Kraln	oh my god	02:49
Roasted	heathOTG *	02:49
Favorit	Electric\|Master: did you have a separate boot partition?	02:49
* Kraln dies		02:49
FloodBot1	Kraln: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:49
Electric\|Master	Favorit: No.	02:50
heath\|OTG	CountDown, no, I gave up on this laptop	02:50
Electric\|Master	I was using GRUB, Windows 7 overwrote it	02:50
Electric\|Master	Same partition I think	02:50
kisuke	morphias: thanks	02:50
heath\|OTG	Roasted, you didn't like it?	02:50
losha	!grub	02:50
ubottu	grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.	02:50
Kraln	I need a goddamn beer lol	02:50
CountDown	heath\|OTG: Hm, good to know. Did you try Xubuntu?	02:50
chasmarang	<heath\|OTG>will this fix the upgrade manager	02:50
Favorit	Electric\|Master: can you pastebin me your 'df' output, 'ls /media/root', and 'ls /media/root/boot' ?	02:50
morphias	Kraln: bud light?	02:50
Electric\|Master	ok	02:50
heath\|OTG	CountDown, I think it is my wireless card	02:51
heath\|OTG	CountDown, no I did not	02:51
heath\|OTG	chasmarang, you should be fine now	02:51
CountDown	heath\|OTG: Why do you think it's the wireless card?	02:51
jose__	alguien habla español?	02:51
Roasted	heathOTG - the control panel on that thing was nothing short of horrible. The user interface was nice though, but it was too over the top for a dock. I needed it to be functional - not overly pretty	02:51
chasmarang	thanx	02:51
heath\|OTG	the light never goes off	02:51
jose__	nadie habla español?	02:51
heath\|OTG	Roasted, that thing will do whatever you want it to do	02:51
Electric\|Master	It's on another computer, but... It shows my directory root on the C:\ drive of Windows 7	02:52
CountDown	heath\|OTG: Any ideas how to debug this?	02:52
braian	yo hablo español	02:52
losha	!es \| jose__	02:52
ubottu	jose__: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	02:52
Dallas	I just tried to install the psb driver using http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/ guide, after apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-psb I get the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" error. "(EE) PSB:Failed to load module "Xpsb" (module does not exist) the only way to start get to UI is to choose "Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session"	02:52
heath\|OTG	You just have to take the time and set it up	02:52
Roasted	heathOTG - like I said, man, horrible control panel. It was just too cumbersome. Docky and AWN surpass it, IMO.	02:52
Roasted	anybody running AWN dock?	02:52
Favorit	Electric\|Master: which of those 3 commands?	02:52
zaduma	Anyone here know anything about EASYBCD?	02:52
heath\|OTG	CountDown, the problem I have is trying to get errors, the damn thing is dead before it can write anything	02:52
Electric\|Master	Favorit: What commands?	02:52
jose__	esque soy nuevo y no hablo español	02:52
Electric\|Master	I used ls /media/root	02:52
Favorit	Electric\|Master: aha, then you mounted the wrong partition	02:52
jose__	no hablo ingles	02:53
Electric\|Master	oh	02:53
jose__	jeje	02:53
Favorit	Electric\|Master: umount /media/root	02:53
jose__	me equivoque	02:53
Electric\|Master	k	02:53
heath\|OTG	Roasted, I have AWN dock on this laptop, but I'm telling cairo rules	02:53
morphias	jose__: este channel por ingles	02:53
Favorit	Electric\|Master: fdisk -l /dev/sd<disk>, look for partition tagged as Linux, mount that one :)	02:53
CountDown	heath\|OTG: Where were you looking for clues? I'll try to confirm.	02:53
Electric\|Master	"bash: unmount: command not found"	02:53
Favorit	umount, not unmount	02:54
Electric\|Master	oh	02:54
Roasted	heathOTG - you're talking to somebody who used cairo dock extensively for a long time and just recently tried out docky and awn.	02:54
heath\|OTG	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=913868 CountDown I read through this	02:54
Roasted	heathOTG - cairo is nice at first cause it has all of the eye candy, but at some point you just need stability and a clean usable dock. That's where I got to, and that's why I stopped using cairo.	02:54
Roasted	I have cairo on 3 computers, and each computer I had different buggy issues with it. Solid, but needs work.	02:54
CountDown	heath\|OTG: OK, thanks. I'll ping you if I find anything new.	02:54
heath\|OTG	cool	02:54
Electric\|Master	k its unmounted	02:54
Favorit	Electric\|Master: ok, now, how many hdd's do you have in that machine?	02:55
heath\|OTG	Roasted, that's strange, I have it on three computers as well and it runs great. AWN is fine, but it has it's annoyances	02:56
Roasted	heathOTG - I agree. I hated AWN. But its beta they just put out seems to surpass what I expected.	02:56
Electric\|Master	Favorit: I have one hardrive, 2 partitions	02:56
Electric\|Master	One for Ubuntu and one for W7	02:56
heath\|OTG	really... I'll check it out	02:56
losha	Electric\|Master: no swap partition?	02:57
Favorit	Electric\|Master: well, then it's rather easy, do "fdisk -l /dev/sda", look for the number that has "Linux" as last column, do mount /dev/sd<that_number> /media/root	02:57
Electric\|Master	ok	02:57
Favorit	Electric\|Master: and then repeat the grub commando	02:57
Favorit	losha: that would be weird custom installation, but well, you never know :P	02:57
Electric\|Master	Ok. /dev/sd5	02:57
morphias	Favorit: u goin commando? lol jk	02:57
Favorit	Electric\|Master: sda5 then, not sd5	02:58
Favorit	sorry, typoed earlier	02:58
Electric\|Master	I know	02:58
Electric\|Master	I got it mounted	02:58
* Favorit puts a red bandana, labelled as "grub".		02:58
Electric\|Master	Which one is the boot one?	02:58
Favorit	Electric\|Master: if you have 2 partitions in the output of fdisk -l, then there is none and only that mount is enough before you will run the grub command	02:59
Electric\|Master	ok	02:59
Electric\|Master	So I don't need to mount the /media/root/boot thingy?	02:59
zaduma	EASYBCD anyone?	02:59
Favorit	nope	02:59
Electric\|Master	ok I'll try it :)	02:59
joshua	anybody know the reason debs don't use bzip2?	03:00
heath\|OTG	zaduma, I used it before a long time ago	03:00
Favorit	zaduma: what does windows vista bootloader tweaker have to do with ubuntu?	03:00
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Favorit	and its crappy bootcd under it :P	03:00
heath\|OTG	Favorit, it lets you add boot options like a gui grub	03:00
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heath\|OTG	lol	03:01
KindOne	I am Running Xubuntu 9.10 and I have just installed a Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version96) and the only resolution avaliable is 640x480... is there a way to fix this? I am using a Nvidia Geforce 4 440MX SE 64MB	03:01
losha	joshua: I thought zip was proprietary. But I lose track of these thing....	03:01
CountDown	heath\|OTG: Did hibernate work for you?	03:01
Electric\|Master	sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda rught?	03:01
heath\|OTG	CountDown, not at all	03:01
Favorit	Electric\|Master: sounds about right	03:01
heath\|OTG	I take that back, sometimes	03:01
Funzo	KindOne:I had the same card, same problem, never found a fix other than switching back to the 2d driver	03:01
Electric\|Master	Ok I think it worked	03:02
Electric\|Master	I'll give it a try :)	03:02
Favorit	Electric\|Master: well, boot and see ;)	03:02
zacktu	i have some directories on a storage device that can't be removed -- "input output error" -- if i use "ls -l" the second column is 256 -- what does that mean? how can i clean up the file system?	03:02
Favorit	umount that dir before booting tho	03:02
Funzo	KindOne: The nvidia installer was supposedly updated for 9.10 but that version still reports that the version of linux is probably too new	03:02
KindOne	Favorit: what driver ? the one on the CD gave me a max resolution of 800x600	03:03
joshua	losha: bzip2 not zip	03:03
Favorit	KindOne: I bet you mistargetted?	03:03
Electric\|Master	Ok it works :)	03:03
Electric\|Master	Thanks a lot Favorit!	03:03
Favorit	Electric\|Master: you're welcome	03:03
Electric\|Master	Bye	03:04
archet45	could some one answer me a quick question about "fstab" mounting?	03:04
Favorit	archet45: don't ask to ask, ask	03:04
Garbin	Hello! everyone here.	03:05
archet45	i can't mount or unmount my drives and i think its an an issue with fstab, anyone have a tip for me? :)	03:05
Garbin	I'm new here	03:05
archet45	i cleared the following data from fstab: /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2 ntfs nls=iso8859-1,umask=000 0 0	03:05
archet45	/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults 0 0	03:05
Favorit	archet45: pastebin the fstab :)	03:05
Favorit	don't paste it into the channel	03:05
greezmunkey	KindOne, are you setting the resolution in System/Administration/Nvidia X Server Settings?	03:05
heath\|OTG	fireball, any luck?	03:05
archet45	Favorit, forgive the noob but do you mean past all the "code" from fstab?	03:05
Favorit	archet45: yeah, that would give a better idea what the problem could be. but not to the channel	03:06
Favorit	!pastebin archet45	03:06
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	03:06
Favorit	!pastebin	03:06
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic	03:06
greezmunkey	!pastebin \| archet45	03:06
ubottu	archet45: please see above	03:06
kaski	Hey guys, I just upgraded to 9.10 and my internet is very slow.	03:06
archet45	Favorit, i never knew such a tool/service was available :)	03:06
Favorit	greezmunkey: thanksee :)	03:07
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kaski	Do you have any idea whats wrong?	03:07
greezmunkey	hehe I like that thingie	03:07
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stabu	hrmm	03:07
zaduma	EasyBCD? Anyone?	03:08
kaski	Firefox takes forever to load google	03:08
archet45	do i paste the link of the results here for my pastebin?	03:08
stabu	i have 2 extreal dirves that are ntfs and i need the webserver to access them... how could i do this?	03:08
Favorit	aye	03:08
Favorit	archet45: aye	03:08
mhs	hey everybody - i just install 9.10 on a Thinkpad with an intel 2100 wireless card. I can't get it to connect to my WPA2 router. I don't see any errors, it just prompts me for my password repeatedly.	03:08
mhs	s/install/installed	03:09
archet45	another quick question from the noob first lol, am i risking security by pasting the whole contents of my fstab?	03:09
Favorit	archet45: no :)	03:09
archet45	awesome	03:09
archet45	http://paste.ubuntu.com/322970/	03:09
zaduma	archet45: no lol	03:09
Favorit	archet45: it's just a table of which disks you mount to which dir	03:09
heath\|OTG	ok guys I'm in	03:09
mhs	I can see my router and other routers in my neighborhood, so things seem to be working.	03:09
archet45	right on	03:09
POY	mhs: make sure /etc/init.d/network-manager is running	03:09
heath\|OTG	rm -rf /etc	03:09
wv5	guys ubuntu or windows 7 ?	03:09
stabu	anyone ever use ampache?	03:10
archet45	wv5, UBUNTU :)	03:10
Garbin	Could someone tell me why the icon on notification area display incomplete when my ubuntu startup?	03:10
Billiard	wv5: for doing what?	03:10
kaski	wandows 10	03:10
wv5	for an everyday use of everything	03:10
kaski	when it comes.	03:10
archet45	sorry to cap it all like that but i tried both thoroughly and ubuntu/linux by far	03:10
Billiard	stabu: apache?	03:10
archet45	wv5, depends on what "every day use" is to ya ;)	03:10
Favorit	archet45: oke, so what's the issue? what can't you mount?	03:10
mhs	poy: thanks, it was running, so that wasn't it.	03:10
greezmunkey	Garbin, more details please...	03:10
Billiard	stabu: what is everyday use for you?	03:10
stabu	not apache ampache	03:11
archet45	Favorit, i'm told and think as well that only the root is able to mount, so i can only mount/unmount via terminal	03:11
stabu	its a media streaming thing	03:11
Favorit	archet45: that's right	03:11
mhs	wv5: amiga	03:11
stabu	it uses apache	03:11
archet45	Favorit, i used to just be able to elevate privaleges and mount/unmount fine	03:11
koolmanluke	is the best flash plugin the one provided by flash	03:11
koolmanluke	?	03:11
kaski	commodore 64?	03:11
Favorit	archet45: sudo mount /dev/sdb1	03:11
kaski	koolmanluke: no	03:11
Favorit	archet45: that's your privilege elevation	03:12
mhs	kaski: commodore 32 ftw	03:12
Billiard	stabu: sorry last message wasnt for you	03:12
koolmanluke	kaski: gnash?	03:12
POY	mhs: there is another script /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant	03:12
archet45	Favorit, after i install and use psydm to auto mount at boot i seem to have this issue where i can't even provide credentials to mount etc	03:12
greezmunkey	wv5, I use this 9.1 laptop everyday.	03:12
Garbin	after my ubuntu startup, I saw the icon such as network manager icon on notificatoin area is not display, but have two ibus icon	03:12
joebix	Im lost	03:12
Billiard	wv5: what is everyday use for you	03:12
kaski	koolmanluke: to be honest i was joking, the original flash plugin is the best	03:12
archet45	brb, gotta restart	03:12
koolmanluke	kaski: thanks for not throwing me a red herring.	03:12
Favorit	archet45: wth is psydm :)	03:12
POY	mhs: if your wireless router use WPA or WPA, the script must running.	03:12
mhs	POY: I have wpa-ifupdown, but no wpa_supplicant in /etc/init.d	03:12
joebix	can somebody help me?	03:13
rogue780	I just installed ubuntu 9.10 in windows virtual pc. The problem is that it gives me the maximum resolution of 800x600. Since there is no longer a xorg.conf file, how do I force it to allow resolutions up to 1600x900?	03:13
user01	hallo	03:13
mhs	POY: I started it just to be sure	03:13
heath\|OTG	joebix, what's the issue	03:13
kaski	why would you install it in a virtual pc	03:13
kaski	it just seems like a terrible idea	03:13
joebix	Hi heath	03:13
joebix	I dont have the sound on my laptop	03:13
joebix	I my campus support team tried to help me	03:14
greezmunkey	Garbin, did you upgrade or do a clean install?	03:14
heath\|OTG	joebix, ubuntu 9.10	03:14
mhs	POY: The network manager notification applet just keeps spinning, and periodically prompting me for my password.	03:14
joebix	but nothing is working	03:14
joebix	yes, Karmil Koala	03:14
Garbin	a clean install	03:14
mhs	POY: Oh well, as long as it isn't something obvious i'm doing.	03:14
Billiard	rogue780: you can still use an xorg.conf if you want, you should also try installing the guest additions	03:14
user01	sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten	03:14
user01	???????????????ß	03:14
heath\|OTG	joebix, what is the laptop?	03:14
Lucy-23	plllleaseee I need helpppp	03:15
greezmunkey	Garbin, hmm hold a minute...	03:15
kaski	Lucy-23, what is your problem	03:15
user01	sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten	03:15
user01	???????????????ß	03:15
joebix	Heat...HP Pavillion dv3-2155	03:15
Garbin	OK! thanks!	03:15
POY	mhs: hmm... wrong password?	03:15
rogue780	Billiard, what guest additions? and also, I don't know how to create the entire xorg.conf for the virtualization...and I don't see how I can just edit that one part for the screen without defining a whole new screen, then i just get confused	03:15
kaski	rogue780, there are guest additions that can be installed in a virtual machine, they seem to help with resolution errors	03:16
theneoindian	hi how can i start a shell session as another user ?	03:16
POY	mhs: are you sure that ur wireless router use WPA2?	03:16
mhs	POY: I've double and triple checked the password. That seems like it, but I'm relatively certain I'm typing it in correctly.	03:16
user01	sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???	03:16
kaski	rogue780, try to find the guest additions installer in the virtual pc's menus	03:16
user01	sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???	03:16
Flannel	!de \| user01	03:16
ubottu	user01: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.	03:16
mhs	POY: I'm relatively certain. I'm logged in to its admin interface right now on another PC	03:16
theneoindian	hi how can i start a shell session as another user ?	03:16
heath\|OTG	joebix, the only thing not working is your sound?	03:16
user01	de	03:16
user01	and ru	03:16
Strider22	Firefox error console shows this error on reload of the facebook photo upload application.	03:17
mhs	WPA2 - PSK	03:17
Strider22	Warning: Expected end of value for property but found ','. Error in parsing value for property 'display'. Declaration dropped.	03:17
Strider22	Source File: http://b.static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/zCK9W/hash/5o7lor52.css	03:17
Strider22	Line: 52	03:17
joebix	yup, I had a wifi issue before, but now it has been solved	03:17
FloodBot1	Strider22: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:17
stealth-	after getting a upgrade and rebooting, I get this error: mount: /lib/liblkid.so.1: no version information avaliable (required by mount)	03:17
theneoindian	pls guys i'm in a real fix .. pls help	03:17
stealth-	and all my hd's are now read only :(	03:17
theneoindian	hi how can i start a shell session as another user ?	03:17
joebix	but for the sound I have no solution so far	03:17
Billiard	rogue780: download the guest additions package on your host machine, then choose the mouse "guest addtions" option in virtual box, mount cd and run the install script in ur guest os	03:17
stealth-	God, why cant ubuntu be rolling release?!	03:17
Billiard	rogue780: mount "guest additions" *	03:17
POY	mhs: it's weird.	03:18
mhs	thenoindian: sudo -U otheruser bash	03:18
rogue780	being that virtual pc is a microsoft product, they don't seem to have additions for linux	03:18
user01	so schnell	03:18
user01	:((	03:18
mhs	POY: can you think of anywhere that any error messages might end up?	03:18
user01	ich bin user01	03:18
user01	:::)))	03:18
mhs	POY: dmesg is the only place I can think of, and there's nothing correlated.	03:18
rogue780	hmm....guess i'll try virtualbox	03:18
user01	sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???	03:19
rogue780	!de	03:19
Roasted	rogue780 - I love virtualbox. using it right now.	03:19
ubottu	In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.	03:19
theneoindian	sudo: the `-U' option may only be used with the `-l' option	03:19
Roasted	rogue780 - I have about 18 or 19 vitrual machines installed in virtualbox that I use here and there.	03:19
heath\|OTG	joebix, do you know how to use the terminal?	03:19
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joebix	well, a little bit	03:19
user01	sudo su sudo su blalbablablablabla	03:19
user01	sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???	03:19
joebix	If u guide me I can	03:20
Flannel	!de \| user01	03:20
ubottu	user01: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.	03:20
mhs	thenoindian: sudo -u otheruser bash	03:20
heath\|OTG	type: lspci \| grep -i audio	03:20
flagman	seu delegado mmsd tadeu ele pegoua minha irma e nha	03:20
mhs	thenoindian: note the lower case u	03:20
Flannel	user01: This channel is english only. For german, please /join #ubuntu-de	03:20
user01	danke	03:20
user01	uuuuffff	03:20
Billiard	rogue780: o sorry, i didnt realized you were using virtual pc, id recomend virtual box, ive found it works better than vpc for linux guests	03:20
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user01	tschussssss	03:20
POY	mhs: i found this path /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/	03:20
mhs	POY: interesting. Mine's empty	03:21
theneoindian	mhs, thanx buddy	03:21
walkinginLA	FUCK UBUNTU	03:21
Garbin	Roasted, I use vbox too, but when I upgrade to 9.10, I get a problem that is the left ctrl key be auto pressed sometime... I don't know why, do you have the same problem?	03:21
joebix	Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)	03:21
zaduma	Lol at walkinginLA	03:21
POY	mhs: NetworkManader use this path to restore it's configuration.	03:21
mhs	hmm	03:21
joebix	dat's the output	03:21
heath\|OTG	joebix, that should work with ubuntu. Do you have an audio icon?	03:22
Roasted	Garbin - when you say you upgraded to 9.10, is this machine a VM machine or is it your core OS youre running vbox on?	03:22
joebix	hm, yes	03:22
Garbin	My host is Ubuntu, and guest is windows xp.	03:23
POY	mhs: empty? i have no idea...	03:23
heath\|OTG	double click it and make sure everything is up	03:23
zaduma	EasyBCD and Grub2? Anyone?	03:23
stealth-	well, screw ubuntu, I'm changing to debian :/ With all these upgrade problems, and no solutions, i'm suprized I didn't do it sooner	03:23
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heath\|OTG	damn... joebix I have to go	03:23
Roasted	Garbin - Im not sure. Ubuntu 9.10 introduced enough problems to my PC that I dropped back to 9.04 and intend to stay there. :(	03:23
heath\|OTG	Look around in there, the sound should be working.	03:24
heath\|OTG	later everyone	03:24
joebix	I have nothing :'(	03:24
fireball	heath\|OTG: thanks, that did it!	03:24
heath\|OTG	NICE!	03:24
mrpinky	hi :D i created and formatted a partition using GParted, but it seems that the partition is owned by "root", so i can't create any files or directories. how do i create/format the partition so that i can use it?	03:24
fireball	heath\|OTG: you're a champion! :)	03:24
heath\|OTG	joebix, keep looking through those settings	03:24
heath\|OTG	later	03:24
mhs	POY: do you know anything about wpa_supplicant/ ? I'd be willing to try disabling NetworkManager	03:25
eli7777	i'm having a problem with the cx18 driver and the nvidia driver. i'm already chanced the grub to vmalloc="512m" and i cant fine anything online that will make the nvidia driver work	03:25
eli7777	changed*	03:25
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donald_	I just downloaded the STA driver for bcm94311mcg - can anyone help me install the tar.gz?	03:25
user01	ich suche lamer	03:25
greezmunkey	Garbin, go to Applications/Internet and see if you have a launcher for Network Manager, if so run it.	03:25
tck9	i boot up my system from sda right now (non raid). i have setup raid1 on sdb & sdc right now and copied all the files over.. if i remove sda and put sdb & sdc in the first 2 sata slots, would the raid array automatically be recognized by linux on bootup and mount correctly? (kernel has raid1 support)	03:25
Garbin	greezmunkey, I try it now	03:26
POY	mhs: there is some scirpt in /etc/wpa_supplicant/,	03:26
mhs	I'll have to figure out what they do.	03:27
joebix	everything is up, but I still cant here anything	03:27
Garbin	greezmunkey, I have no launcher for network manager now, what sould I do?	03:27
mhs	POY: The laptop in question is only going to connect to this one router	03:27
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mhs	POY: So NetworkManager may be overkill	03:27
supercom32	So I want to build an Ubuntu server. Is it fair to say that 2 single core CPU's will out perform one dual core CPU? In terms of multitasking and speed?	03:27
POY	mhs: Ubuntu use two way to configure network. /etc/init.d/networking and /etc/network-manager	03:27
mhs	supercom32: no	03:27
eli7777	any one know what might fix this? any one had a problem with a turner card and nvidia card not working that changing vmalloc= didnt fix?	03:28
POY	mhs: just only use NetworkManager.	03:28
supercom32	mhs: So what is the reality check? :P	03:28
joebix	sniff, abandoned	03:28
Garbin	sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome? or create a launcher manual?	03:28
joebix	anyone can help me?	03:28
mhs	POY: You think I'm better off avoiding /etc/init.d/networking?	03:28
user01	#ubuntu-de da kein pipel	03:29
innociv	"sudo chmod 755 -r /etc/aped	03:29
innociv	" returns "chmod: cannot access `755': No such file or directory" what am I doing wrong? D:	03:29
user01	wer kent deutsch	03:29
user01	wer kent deutsch???	03:29
user01	kennt	03:29
user01	:::)	03:29
KindOne	joebix: what is wrong?	03:29
mhs	supercom32: Dual Core CPU's are pretty fast. The only reason multiple CPU's could outperform multiple cores is because they have more total memory bandwidth.	03:29
POY	mhs: may be there is something in /etc/network/interfaces	03:29
cross	elo	03:30
joebix	I have a problem with my sound	03:30
bastid_raZor	innociv: /etc/aped does not exist.	03:30
joebix	since I installed ubuntu, no sound	03:30
innociv	Yeah it does..	03:30
KindOne	joebix: please be more specific	03:30
joebix	HP Pavillion dv3-2155	03:30
franklin	hola amigos	03:30
mhs	supercom32: but for 99% of server applications, it doesn't matter. In fact, for the same power consumption, the dual core CPU will be higher clock speed.	03:30
franklin	una pregunta	03:30
innociv	it looks like it sees 755 as the folder	03:30
cross	Polen :)	03:30
joebix	I cant hear anything	03:30
joebix	there's no sound	03:31
franklin	alguien que me pueda recomendar como puedo programar en php en un entrono que sea parecido o mejor a dreamweaver	03:31
joebix	but when I switch to windows vista, I have the sound	03:31
Billiard	joebix: does sound work on the live cd?	03:31
akav	Anyone know of a network monitoring tool that shows the time packets are sent?	03:31
KindOne	joebix: do you see the speaker next to the clock ?	03:31
joebix	yes Kind One	03:31
donald_	hello - trying to get my broadcom wireless (bcm94311mcg) nic working - downloaded the tar.gz from broadcom's site, extracted it ... now what? :) Anyone??	03:32
mhs	akav: wireshark?	03:32
supercom32	mhs: Are dual core machines as effective in multitasking as 2 single cpu's? Or is there overhead within a dual core CPU which makes it slightly slower?	03:32
Billiard	!who \| joebix	03:32
ubottu	joebix: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	03:32
joebix	I have clicked on it, and put the volume to 100%	03:32
joebix	still nothing	03:32
donald_	drivers don't show up in hardware drivers	03:32
KindOne	joebix: do you see "Sound Cards"	03:32
mhs	supercom32: dual core machines have two cpu's on one die.	03:32
mhs	supercom32: the only difference is 1) for licensing some applications like Oracle, and b) memory bandwidth.	03:33
joebix	sound card?	03:33
joebix	where?	03:33
supercom32	mhs: Ok, memory bandwith is the only bottle neck then for a dual core cpu to complete with?	03:33
joebix	under the sound preferences, I see hardware	03:33
greezmunkey	Garbin, you could try that, but it should already be there, try this in a terminal "ps aux \| grep -e work" (no quotes) and see if anything called network manager shows up	03:33
mcurran	lshw \| grep 'sound' maybe?	03:34
mhs	supercom32: its not much of a bottleneck, except for some HPC applications	03:34
joebix	and it says Internal Audio 1 output/1 input	03:34
Garbin	OK	03:34
joebix	Analog Stereo Duplex	03:34
KindOne	joebix: click the speaker icon, and when it open, you will see the text "Sound Cards" and to the right of that, there should be your sound card. if there is, click it.	03:34
akav	mhs: Just looked at a video on the website. Wireshark looks like it might do the trick.	03:34
akav	mhs: I was using IPTraf, which has no time measurement that I can find.	03:34
mhs	supercom32: and dual core CPU's are superior in terms of power consumption (and thus heat output too.)	03:34
mhs	akav: wireshark is pretty nifty	03:35
Garbin	greezmunkey, yes I see, that is an item called NetworkManager	03:35
akav	mhs: Cool, installing now. Thanks.	03:35
supercom32	mhs: Good point. Would you happen to know how many processors/cores Ubuntu supports?	03:35
mhs	supercom32: off the top of my head? I'd guess there's no practical limit.	03:35
greezmunkey	Garbin, in thet output do you see the pid number...should be the second entry	03:36
Billiard	supercom32: more than you will ever have linux suppors like 64 or something crazy	03:36
mhs	I was going to say 96	03:36
supercom32	mhs: Well, microsoft OS's support a limited number based on distro, so... Just wondering.	03:36
Garbin	yes, something like 922?	03:36
eli7777	my computer is booting up in low graphics mode if i have the nvidia driver active.	03:37
Garbin	the seconed column?	03:37
akav	and out comes Sierra Nevada #2.	03:37
mcurran	well does ubuntu know how to properly allocate usage for a core i7 or does that all happen in the cpu itself	03:37
Garbin	greezmunkey, the second column?	03:37
KindOne	joebix: did you dix the issue?	03:37
mhs	supercom32: the reason Microsoft restricts the number of processors is not because their OS doesn't support it, but because if you are willing to pay lots of money for a system with 32 cores, they know you can pay thousands for an OS.	03:37
Garbin	I kill it?	03:37
Garbin	greezmunkey, I kill it?	03:37
supercom32	Anyone know if VMware still king of virtualization? Or has any challengers stepped up?	03:38
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supercom32	mhs: I see. Ok, thanks for your help.	03:38
joebix	Kind One, still nothing	03:38
archet45	got it solved, just installed ntfs-configuration tool :)	03:38
mcurran	eli7777 what nvidia card are you using?	03:38
Billiard	supercom32: virtualbox works pretty good for anything i ever have to do	03:38
eli7777	the 9800 gtx	03:38
KindOne	supercom32: i use Sun VirtualBox when i am running Windows as the host OS	03:38
supercom32	Billiard: Is there any cons/pros you have for it over another package like QEMM or VMWare?	03:39
greezmunkey	Garbin, in you terminal type "sudo kill -HUP {your pid}" (no quotes, braces)	03:39
eli7777	the driver i'm using is the 190.42	03:39
joebix	when I click on the speaker, there's only the string to increase the volume	03:39
joebix	nothing else	03:39
archet45	anyone wanna guess what completely did it for me with windows? lol	03:39
Billiard	supercom32: not sure, never used QEMM	03:39
supercom32	KindOne: Hmm. I'd be intrested in using linux as a host if possible. ;P	03:39
mcurran	how did you install the nvidia driver (manually, hardware drivers app, or envyng)	03:39
archet45	i use the "easy transfer tool" to migrate my data from one computer to another and all M$ can say is its "corrupt"	03:40
KindOne	joebix: see the "select controls"... check the master box	03:40
archet45	no error code, nothing	03:40
eli7777	manually from the .run file	03:40
KindOne	supercom32: im currently running Xubuntu with Wubi lol and im running WINE and using mIRC	03:40
andres_berni	hola	03:40
Garbin	greezmunkey, I did it , but nothing happend	03:40
joebix	where do I find it?Im not an expert in Ubuntu	03:41
supercom32	KindOne: Ya, I'm doing similar monkey business with my linux machine too:P	03:41
mcurran	I'd give envyng a try, or maybe use the restricted driver in the hardware drivers app if you can.	03:41
greezmunkey	Garbin, you there?	03:41
Garbin	yes, I'm here	03:41
Garbin	greezmunkey, yes I'm here	03:41
mcurran	eli777 cause it sounds like somethings missing in xorg and the module isn't getting loaded	03:41
KindOne	joebix: please add the name of the person you are talking too... and what do you want to find ?	03:41
Garbin	greezmunkey, I did it, but nothing happend	03:41
greezmunkey	Garbin, did you get my post about the kill -HUP?	03:42
joebix	Kind One: sorry	03:42
supercom32	Anyone have experience with running ubuntu using a dual core atom setup?	03:42
eli7777	so remove the 190 driver and install the 185?	03:42
joebix	Kind One: where do I find the sound controls?	03:42
Garbin	yes, I run it, but nothing happend	03:42
Garbin	greezmunkey, Yes, I run it, but nothing happend	03:42
greezmunkey	Garbin, no MN icon?	03:42
greezmunkey	Garbin, ok, do this in a term	03:42
greezmunkey	Garbin, oops! "sudo killall NetworkManager	03:43
luis_	real player ubunto	03:43
LordHawke13	Is there some sort of plug-in I can get for any of my archiving software to work with Macintosh Disk Images? (*.DMG)	03:43
andres_berni	algun español	03:43
eli7777	well it was working but i install the cx18 driver for my tuner card and changed the grub file vmalloc="512m"	03:43
andres_berni	??	03:43
KindOne	joebix: Click the Speaker Icon -> Select your Sound Card -> Now click Select Control -> and select the Master.	03:44
joebix	Kind One: when I click on the speaker, I only have the string to increase the volume, nothing else	03:44
KindOne	joebix: if that does not work, you might want to try the Ubuntu Forums. and be very specific about your computer spec's and the issue.	03:45
joebix	Kind One: thanks for ur help	03:45
greezmunkey	Garbin, any luck?	03:45
rance94	can vim be a good place to write c code or should i use emacs???	03:46
mhs	POY: I had my stupid router set to 802.11g only mode.	03:46
Garbin	greezmunkey, thanks for your help:),but, sorry for my fault, the problem will happen when I startup my ubuntu sometimes, but now is fine, I will give a try for it next time I get this problem.	03:47
greezmunkey	Stupid router, only does what you tell it to! :]	03:47
darknezz	i have a question about alsa.... im using version 9.10 and my mic and line 1 was not working.. so i installed the new version of alsa (from website) and loaded it on... it was working fine for like a hour then it stopped working again... if someone can help me out that would be nice :)	03:47
rance94	can i use vim to write c code or should i use emacs???	03:47
mhs	vim++	03:47
rance94	mhs that is just regular vim right??	03:47
Garbin	greezmunkey, I want to know how can I have a normal startup without run that command?	03:48
toffan	hello	03:48
* greezmunkey hates to offer up "reboot" as a troubleshooting measure		03:48
toffan	i need a help	03:48
greezmunkey	Garbin, how did you resolve it this time?	03:48
mhs	rance94: I'm applying the postfix ++ operator to vim, because I like vim	03:48
rsk	rance94 both works	03:48
seidos	how do i install xfce?	03:48
IdleOne	toffan: ask and if someone can help they will	03:48
rance94	mhs o ok	03:48
rsk	seidos sudo apt-get install xfce	03:48
Garbin	reboot it.	03:48
Garbin	it happend sometime	03:48
KindOne	toffan:what do you need help with ?	03:48
mhs	rance94: I guess that's c++, but oh well	03:49
toffan	I have an dontnet application .. how to run that in ubuntu?	03:49
Garbin	greezmunkey, I reboot it, or relogin.	03:49
rance94	mhs: soo i need help with vim like how do i run/compile after i type the code?	03:49
Garbin	greezmunkey, It happend sometime	03:49
JMcJson	!german	03:49
ubottu	In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.	03:49
mhs	rance94: ctrl+z, then type make	03:49
greezmunkey	Garbin, it could be several things. Perhaps the point in the boot process where it is loading has a conflict, I'm guessing.	03:49
KindOne	toffen: never heard of that, is it designed for a different OS ?	03:49
mhs	rance94: then type fg and fix what didn't compile	03:49
seidos	rsk: E: couldn't find package xfce	03:49
mhs	rance94: or look at eclipse	03:50
rance94	ahhh thx alot this works with c++ right casue if it does i might yell and rejoice and luv vim	03:50
rance94	mhs i dont like eclipse i could never get it to work lol i like vim	03:50
greezmunkey	Garbin, I unloaded NM for some of the same reasons, I use wicd, which works for me.	03:50
IdleOne	!pm \| toffan	03:50
ubottu	toffan: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.	03:50
mhs	rance94: an even better solution is to use gnu screen with vim	03:50
toffan	I have a problem that I can not run an application (Trade Tiger) for which I works. That was an made by Dotnet Framework. You can download that application at: http://www.sharekhan.com/tradetiger/setupnew.html .	03:51
Garbin	greezmunkey, thanks for your help, I will try wicd:)	03:51
LordHawke13	What application should I have set to run for Compiz's "Take Screenshot"?	03:51
mhs	rance94: then you can have your editor in one screen, and run make in another screen, and switch back and forth	03:51
Garbin	greezmunkey, wicd is another gui network manager?	03:52
rance94	mhs can u pm me because i dont know how to do that	03:52
seidos	why can't i access this page? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473331	03:52
Garbin	does it works fine on 3G network?	03:52
ubuntunewbie	hi all ubuntu 9.10 is faster than xp???	03:52
LordHawke13	I can. . .	03:52
KindOne	toffan: that program is designed for Windows. if you want to run it on Ubuntu, you need to install WINE.	03:52
greezmunkey	Garbin, if you use the package manager, first go to wicd's web site. You have to import some settings first, but the cool part is that once you do, NM will be unloaded as part of the install proc!	03:52
LordHawke13	YES!!	03:52
Garbin	greezmunkey, Does it works fine on 3Gnetwork	03:52
linxeh	seidos: what error ?	03:52
toffan	where to install that?	03:52
toffan	wine	03:52
seidos	linxeh: correction, can't post a reply	03:52
Garbin	greezmunkey, OK	03:52
KindOne	open Terminal	03:53
mikubuntu	just updated my laptop to 9.10 through the update mgr ... now i don't have sound (do have video) ... when i tried to open pulseaudio, got: connection failed...	03:53
iOmlette	!wine \| toffan	03:53
ubottu	toffan: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	03:53
LordHawke13	ubuntunewbie, You must truely be a newbie. . . Of course it's faster. But they don't want you to know that. . .	03:53
adamot	has anyone succesfully installed Zune software on Ubuntu Karmic without using a virtual machine?	03:53
greezmunkey	Garbin, don't know don't use one, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't. The only thing I know it won't do is vpn's but there are ways around that which I like better anyway.	03:53
mhs	rance94: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gnu+screen	03:53
ubuntunewbie	on my pc ubuntu is slower than xp! how to fix it?	03:53
IdleOne	KindOne: I doubt that will work even in wine but worth a shot	03:54
mhs	rance94: got a lot on my plate right now	03:54
KindOne	adamot: have you tried through WINE ?	03:54
LordHawke13	ubuntunewbie, What have you done to it?	03:54
linxeh	seidos: did you read the green box at the top ?	03:54
Garbin	greezmunkey, OK, thanks:)	03:54
KindOne	IdleOne: never know if it will work unless people try.	03:54
adamot	KindOne, it has been tried and doesn't work	03:54
vock	I'm running Jaunty right now, and want to install Python(x,y), however there is no jaunty repository yet. Would anything go wrong installing from the Ibex repo? Is it generally safe to do things like this?	03:55
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toffan	thank you very much ubontu	03:55
toffan	can we chat privately for sometimes..?	03:55
rance94	mhs: o ok well that control z thing didnt work :(	03:55
tenna_smle	Can anyone help me install vmware tools for Ubuntu?	03:55
KindOne	adamot: does it require any software like .NET Frameworks? or something? and if it does, have you tried installing that first then Zune?	03:55
mhs	rance94: don't give up on it. screen + vim == very powerful and fast	03:55
adamot	KindOne, I'm not sure... I'll look into that later thanks for the advice!	03:56
greezmunkey	tenna_smle, why not run VirtualBox?	03:57
tenna_smle	When I try to log into Ubuntu with VmWare, I get a screen that stops everything saying tools needs to be installed	03:57
tenna_smle	tenna_smle, vmWare is free for me	03:57
fcuk112	i was playing around with byobu, and suddenly when i start byobu now i don't see the bar at the bottom, anyone know why?	03:57
greezmunkey	tenna_smle, good reason :)	03:57
tenna_smle	greenzmunkey can you help me get this up? and why do youy say that? Is VMware not good?	03:57
greezmunkey	tenna_smle, I'm sure it's fine, but I've heard some things... VirtualBox installed and runs flawlessly for me.	03:58
toffan	hi ubontu, is there any thing else wabout WINE ..?	03:58
KindOne	http://www.zune.net/en-us/support/usersguide/gettingstarted/pcreqs.htm	03:59
vock	Is there anything wrong with installing Intrepid Packages on Jaunty?	03:59
iOmlette	You might have some version conflicts, vock.	04:00
KindOne	adamot: here http://www.zune.net/en-us/support/usersguide/gettingstarted/pcreqs.htm	04:00
greezmunkey	toffan, try here: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb	04:00
iOmlette	But otherwise, shouldn't be.	04:00
jongbergs	!wine	04:00
ubottu	WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	04:00
ubuntunewbie	www.kingwarez.tk free softwares	04:00
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iOmlette	Uh huh.	04:00
Random832	vock, if the package installs it should work fine	04:01
iOmlette	I'm pretty sure advertising a warez site is against the rules.	04:01
Random832	is the general rule to go by	04:01
* greezmunkey thought toffan already looked there but that it wasn't enough for (him/her)		04:01
jrib	ubuntunewbie: ubuntu.com for better free software. Also don't do that please	04:01
stealth_	could somebody on the latest ubuntu version dcc me their /lib/libblkid.so.1 Or better yet, tell me how to get it without apt-get?	04:01
xorso	Anyone know how to change the splash screen and login page resolution?	04:01
rance94	how to i split the screen in vim im trying but it wont work. will somebody help me???	04:01
toffan	thank you verymuch ubontu	04:01
jrib	rance94: /join #vim	04:01
rance94	ahh	04:01
xorso	rance94: Try ctrl +w n	04:01
Random832	rance94, do :split instead of :edit, or do :new	04:02
jongbergs	!usplash	04:02
ubottu	To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork	04:02
greg_universe	I lost my system tray How do I get get it back?	04:02
xorso	ubottu: Will the artwork image size change the resolution? I need to also change the resolution because it boots with 1600x1200 and my monitor can't go that high.	04:03
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	04:03
Timmymayes	anyone have any familiarity with nvidia cards under linux?	04:03
mcurran	right click on the bottom of the desktop screen and click new panel	04:03
mcurran	I do somewhat	04:03
jongbergs	greg_universe: pres alt+f2 then type gconftool --recursive-unset /app/panel && killall gnome-panel	04:03
KindOne	Timmymayes: what is your issue?	04:04
Timmymayes	well	04:04
Timmymayes	stepmania	04:04
Timmymayes	a ddr clone	04:04
Timmymayes	it has a linux installer	04:04
Timmymayes	which i did	04:04
Timmymayes	it runs	04:04
FloodBot1	Timmymayes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:04
stealth_	could somebody on the latest ubuntu version dcc me their /lib/libblkid.so.1 Or better yet, tell me how to get it without apt-get?	04:04
cytotoxic	Ubuntu is a disease	04:04
Timmymayes	But i get 1 fps...the fix is to disable texture clamping. I have no idea how.	04:04
cytotoxic	my immune system will attack it on sight	04:04
jongbergs	greg_universe: did it work?	04:05
cytotoxic	I ALREADY HAVE ANTIBODYS AGINST UBUNTU	04:05
puff	Hello? My mouse pointer is frozen.	04:05
xorso	Anyone have any idea how to change the resolution of the splash and login screens?	04:05
iOmlette	So why are you here, cytotoxic?	04:05
puff	After resume-from-suspend.	04:05
cytotoxic	BECAUSE UBUNTU IS A DISEASE	04:05
greezmunkey	cytotoxic, thanks for sharing winbot	04:05
cytotoxic	I AM IMMUNE TO IT	04:05
Random832	stealth_, why do you need it without apt-get?	04:05
puff	Please don't feed the trolls.	04:05
Dayofswords	i can figure out how to choose what keys to encypt with in evolution, i can find any options anywhere	04:06
* iOmlette sighs.		04:06
greezmunkey	!	04:06
greg_universe	still don't have my tray	04:06
cytotoxic	FEED THE TROLLS	04:06
puff	They're lonely and pathetic enough wtihout the encouragement.	04:06
cytotoxic	FUCK UBUNTU	04:06
mcurran	Timmymayes you don't have any emulation Option(s) set in xorg.conf do you?	04:06
Dayofswords	i CANT figure out i mean	04:06
puff	So, mouse pointer frozen, anybody?	04:06
stealth_	Random832: because apt-get isn't working because it can't write to the filesystem because mount can't mount it as write because libblkid.so.1 is messed up. :(	04:06
iOmlette	Zing.	04:06
jongbergs	!startupmanager \| xorso	04:06
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about startupmanager	04:06
mcurran	puff - buy a new computer	04:06
mcurran	haha	04:06
puff	The icon still transforms to a hand when over a link, but clicknig doesn't do anthing.	04:06
jongbergs	xorso: sudo apt-get install startupmanager	04:06
Timmymayes	mcurran, I don't think so Its default ubuntu install	04:06
Random832	stealth_, what filesystem is this that requires a userspace library to mount?	04:06
xorso	jongbergs: Htanks I will give that a try.	04:07
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mcurran	Are you running a nvidia driver timmy	04:07
ubuntunewbie	How to speed up ubuntu?	04:07
Random832	anyway, you can download the pakcage from http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libblkid1, and extract it by hand	04:07
jonzbcc	I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. The graphical system monitor app shows memory resources being used at like 80% when ubuntu finishes logging in. (with the usual start up programs). It used to be (9.04) that the usual clutter of the start-up apps were only taking up a small amount of memory. So, I logged in (i am now) to failsafe gnome, and see everything is the way it was when I was at 9.04 (only 30% memory in use). Can anyone suggest w	04:07
jonzbcc	here to start? Or am I dumb for doing an upgrade and not a clean-install?	04:07
mcurran	I don't think startupmanager works in karmic	04:07
stealth_	Random832: ext4, I believe. I'd check, but libblkid.so.1 says there is no information avaliable.	04:07
jrib	jonzbcc: figure out what applications are responsible for the memory usage exactly	04:08
Jordan_U	stealth_: You can chroot in from a LiveCD and reinstall libblkid1	04:08
Random832	stealth_, you may need to boot from a livecd to fix it	04:08
Jordan_U	stealth_: What is the exact error you are getting?	04:08
greezmunkey	ubuntunewbie, in a terminal, run top, look at it...check your cpu %'s, swap size, and amount used, etc.	04:08
stealth_	Jordan_U, Random832: I know, which is why I'm asking where I can find the updated file. Ubuntu didn't upgrade it during the upgrade from 9.04, I'm assuming	04:09
jonzbcc	jrib: well, when I was logged in normal Gnome, the "processes tab" of "system monitor" showed everything in the CPU column was at 0. should I just run "top" at the command line, and let you knwo what shows?	04:09
Random832	huh??	04:09
stealth_	Jordan_U: mount: /lib/libblkid.so.1: no version information available (required by mount)\	04:09
Dayofswords	i cant figure out how to choose what keys to encrypt with in evolution, i can find any options anywhere	04:09
mcurran	stealth_ I was getting a mount error like that and I just ran the recovery kernel from grub and did resume normal boot (rebooted) and it was fine	04:09
jonzbcc	jrib (i would 've just run "top", but only thought of tha tnow)	04:09
jrib	jonzbcc: well system monitor can also sort my memory usage	04:09
Random832	i posted a link to where you can download the package	04:09
stealth_	mcurran: hmmm, okay I guess i'll try that next. Thanks :)	04:09
Jordan_U	stealth_: Do you know what chroot does?	04:10
stealth_	Random832: sorry, I missed that. I got it now. Thanks	04:10
tenna_smle	ok so I can't get ubuntu 8.04 LTS on my VMWare up and running	04:10
tenna_smle	Should I try 9.04 or 9.10 next?	04:10
Random832	stealth_, that gets you the .deb, you still need a way to either install it or extract it by hand	04:10
tenna_smle	which one is better to install?	04:10
stealth_	Jordan_U: yeah, I'm pretty familiar with linux.	04:10
stealth_	Random832: I figure i'll just do it by hand	04:10
Random832	do you know how to extract a deb by hand?	04:11
mcurran	stealth manual - open terminal "sudo dpkg -i "packagename"	04:11
puff	tenna_smle: Generally people recommend the latest, e.g. 9.10.	04:11
greezmunkey	tenna_smle, you might as well "go for the throat" and install 9.10!	04:11
tenna_smle	puff, but has it been debugged sufficiently?	04:11
Jordan_U	stealth_: Then just chroot in via livecd and run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libblkid1"	04:11
puff	tenna_smle: I'm not saying I recommend it, I tend to be gunshy about late-recurring bugs.	04:11
puff	tenna_smle: But karmic's been out for a while, so.	04:11
linuxguy2009	Hey guys have they fixed the annoyances with installing kde alongside gnome, kinda like some kde logos/screens etc override the system?	04:11
Random832	i'd recommend the chroot solution though tbh	04:11
stealth_	Jordan_U: hmm, yeah I guess I could do that too. Lol, thanks :)	04:12
beto	Buenas noches, tengo una duda respecto a los messenger de linux. o no se que demonios hice en estos dias... Cambio el Alias/Apodo, cierro y cuando me vuelvo a conectar se pone mi nombre Beto otra vez... probe con el pidgin, amsn, empathy y sigo con ese problema	04:12
tenna_smle	I must say. Installing Ubuntu on VMWare... ROTS	04:12
Dayofswords	i need some help, i cant figure out how to choose what keys to encrypt with in evolution, i cant find any options anywhere	04:12
puff	linuxguy2009: As of earlier this week, I believe "no"	04:12
Jordan_U	stealth_: np	04:12
beto	Buenas noches, tengo una duda respecto a los messenger de linux. o no se que demonios hice en estos dias... Cambio el Alias/Apodo, cierro y cuando me vuelvo a conectar se pone mi nombre Beto otra vez... probe con el pidgin, amsn, empathy y sigo con ese problema	04:12
puff	linuxguy2009: I was helping somebody sort out a problem where we had installed gnome desktop and then they wanted kde, then they upgraded to karmic.	04:12
greezmunkey	tenna_smle, ROTS?	04:12
puff	linuxguy2009: and kxm and gdm were fighting, so they could'nt use xdmcp.	04:12
linuxguy2009	puff: thank you	04:12
Jordan_U	!es \| beto	04:12
ubottu	beto: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	04:12
mcurran	Hey, does anyone know how to mask your ip address without connecting through an outside proxy on ubuntu?	04:12
tenna_smle	greenzmunkey pretty much	04:12
puff	linuxguy2009: So, I'm not certainyl what problems exactly you were worried about, but it appears that one isn't solved yet.	04:12
dr3mro	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8352033	04:13
Jordan_U	mcurran: Who are you trying to mask your ip address from?	04:13
greezmunkey	tenna_smle, I was asking what that means, guess I'm a bit thick tonight...	04:13
puff	I want to make an ubuntu upgrade-check tool that checks the bug database for any bugs reported for your hardware configuration and any drastic changes to your currently selected packages, to warn you if a dist-upgrade might be rocky.	04:13
dr3mro	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8352033	04:13
mcurran	Well yesterday I got shunned on the linuxmint server for xchat and was looking for a way around it, now I just wanna know if its possible	04:13
linuxguy2009	My other question is with netbook remix 9.10, is there a way to rearrange the launchers in favorites?	04:14
tenna_smle	ew remix	04:14
tenna_smle	sorry that just came out	04:14
stealth_	mcurran: reset your router? Thats probably the easiest way	04:14
stealth_	mcurran: unless they ban the whole range, then just use tor or something	04:14
Jordan_U	mcurran: Please don't try to evade bans, it will be lifted eventually and as long as you don't troll you won't get banned	04:15
greezmunkey	stealth, I've tried that on my connection, the lease time is too long!	04:16
mcurran	Well I was told it was permanent, so...	04:16
muri_one	is there a process viewer that has more features and is more user friendly than top, but isn't quite as cpu intensive as htop?	04:16
mcurran	stealth_ what is tor? It's not a package right?	04:16
Jordan_U	mcurran: Most IRC servers won't allow connections through tor without a cloak anyway, so tor won't help you	04:17
judaman	muri_one, what problem do you have with regular top?	04:17
TTilus	mcurran: http://www.torproject.org/	04:17
ubuntunewbie	www.kingwarez.tk free software download	04:18
adamot	what exactly is Tor?	04:18
TTilus	adamot: 06:17 < TTilus> mcurran: http://www.torproject.org/	04:18
judaman	is tor even usable nowadays? the speeds were horrible last time i used it.	04:18
TTilus	judaman: speeds are horrible, but if the alternative is to get you head chopped, it'll do very well	04:19
linuxman410	i lost my top bar in ubuntu 8,04 how do i get it back the bar that says applications and places and system is gone need to get it back	04:19
muri_one	judaman: I mainly like the horizontal and vertical scrolling of htop. it's nice on my netbook	04:19
muri_one	in small terminal windowsw	04:19
bazhang	!resetpanels \| linuxman410	04:19
ubottu	linuxman410: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »	04:19
judaman	muri_one, you sit in top scrolling up and down? lol	04:19
muri_one	and searching	04:20
judaman	i dont see a point in using top to see other then the "top" processes, anything other just use ps	04:20
muri_one	the horizontal scrolling is the main thing. sometimes I can't see what the process is	04:20
muri_one	thanks for laughing at me for wanting a nicer version of top.	04:21
judaman	ahh horizontal, i read vertical, lol long day	04:21
muri_one	I can also kill a process quicker in htop	04:22
muri_one	without having to transcribe the process id	04:22
judaman	you need to learn the basic tool of ps and kill man	04:22
judaman	no need to top and killing processes via top and all that jazz	04:23
mcurran	why do so many open source projects tell you to add repos to your sources list, instead of just providing the packages on their site?	04:23
nic1	hi..i run the command mplayer videofile in the terminal, but if i need to exec this in a config, how do i have to do? i tried exec(mplayer videofile), it crashes	04:24
judaman	mcurran: ahh because of deps, obviously. =)	04:24
mcurran	oh yeah, duh	04:24
greezmunkey	heh I scrolled to htop in htop and killed htop.	04:24
rashed2020	nic1: config?	04:24
muri_one	judaman: I like to leave top on all the time. if I notice a process acting up I can just kill it. some times programs crush the system so badly spawning a terminal, running ps, and then kill is just tediously long	04:25
mezquitale	!ot \| mcurran	04:25
ubottu	mcurran: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	04:25
mcurran	So will this tor be turned on all the time and slow down my connections, or do you use it on a per basis somehow?	04:25
mcurran	Oh sorry	04:25
mcurran	nevermind	04:25
judaman	muri_one, you bigger problem if you frequently have random processes "crushing" your system.	04:25
judaman	you do know that, thats not normal right? =)	04:26
muri_one	judaman: 90% of the time it's firefox	04:26
muri_one	the other 10% it's some bad code I wrote	04:26
losha	mcurran: if you do it right, you get a button on the bottom of your browser to turn tor on & off...	04:26
judaman	lol	04:26
nic1	rashed2020: ya config of window manager i use, so that when i login that time itself my mplayer will start	04:26
rashed2020	nic1: What wm do you use?	04:26
mcurran	is there a way to do a ls command for apt-get, in order to list by name to search for packages in terminal (for instance: something like sudo apt-get list package*	04:27
randomusr	hello	04:27
rashed2020	mcurran: apt-cache search PACKAGE	04:28
mcurran	rashed thanks, I didn't see that in the man pages or --help	04:28
puff	mcurran: Or sudo aptitude search package	04:28
puff	mcurran: MAke sure you sudo aptitude update, first.	04:28
KindOne	I have a Nvidia GeForce 4 440MX SE 64MB and this installed "nvidia-glx-96" "nvidia settings" "xserver-xorg-video-nv" and i can only get a resolution of 640x480 ... is there a way to fix this?	04:29
puff	mcurran: Also, to see if a package is currently installed, "sudo dpkg -l \| fgrep name"	04:29
losha	judaman: mcurran: re: why use a repo, I don't think it for dependencies, those are in the .deb file, I think it's so you can provide updates via update manager...	04:29
mcurran	thanks puff, but I want to do it from terminal	04:29
puff	mcurran: Aptitude is a shell program.	04:29
losha	mcurran: see also apt-file ....	04:30
nic1	rashed2020: i use i3 window manager	04:30
puff	mcurran: aptitude basically replaces apt-get/apt-cache with a more coherent, unified shell tool.	04:30
puff	mcurran: However, for some purposes, the original dpkg shell tool is still useful.	04:30
benay1	hello folks, I have windows vista as guest OS on Ubuntu 9.10 using VMware player, but NAT is not working	04:30
mcurran	cool, yeah i got confused and was thinking synaptic	04:30
zilla1	where does grub install by default?	04:30
judaman	losha, if you install a .dep it wont retrieve a dep that you dont have on the system	04:31
puff	zilla1: /usr/lib/grub and usr/sbin/grub*	04:31
puff	zilla1, mcurran: Another useful use for dpkg: "dpkg -L packagename" lists all of the files that the package installs.	04:31
flanders	Is it possible to automatically split audio tracks in K3B by certain intervals (every X seconds) or into a specific number of parts? I know it can be done in Brasero (for GNOME), but I can only find an option to split tracks manually with K3B, not automatically?	04:31
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benay1	Could not connect Ethernet0 to virtual network "/dev/vmnet8". More information can be found in the vmware.log file. Failed to connect virtual device Ethernet0. How can I fix NAT?	04:32
losha	judaman: it will if you use gdebi. The dependency info is in the deb file. But it's true, all that gets done for you if you use a repo....	04:32
puff	So, frozen mouse pointer, anybody?	04:32
rashed2020	nic1: Sorry :( Never used it.	04:32
bastid_raZor	benay1: #vmware is possible place to ask.	04:33
benay1	k thanks	04:33
cdi	I know this is a lame question but is there any way to edit the message that appears with the pidgin psychic mode plugin?	04:33
greezmunkey	Kindone, here is my xorg.conf, see if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/323010/	04:33
root	how can I upgrade only a single package via commandline?	04:33
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tenna_smle	vmware seems to play better with 9.10 over 8.04	04:34
KindOne	root" "sudo apt-get install packagehere"	04:34
puff	Guest70303: Yes, as long as the package has no dependencies.	04:34
greezmunkey	tenna_smle,go for the throat!	04:34
mcurran	KindOne: Yes, there is a way, but it's wicked complicated, you'll need to basically find someone's xorg.conf and copy their device section for the nvidia driver online somewhere, but there are two options like "addargbvisuals" "true" and another one...	04:34
tenna_smle	greenzmunkey appreciate all the cheerleading comments =)	04:34
Guest70303	puff: I asked how... apt-get upgrade packname doesn't work....	04:35
losha	flanders: I'm curious. Why would you want to split at fixed intervals. They're unlikely to coincide with breaks in the audio?	04:35
puff	Guest70303: What KindOne said; re-isusing the apt-get install command will install the latest version, if oyu're behind.	04:35
Guest70303	ah, thanks	04:35
puff	Guest70303: Or will tell you that you're already on the latest version.,	04:35
Guest70303	k	04:35
puff	Guest70303: However, if the new version has dependcies on other dammit.	04:35
puff	Oh well.	04:35
plytheman	evening guys, anyone have suggestions on a distro to put on a thumb drive to fix a friends intel powered macbook?	04:35
flanders	losha, it's for my car's audio player. The seek function is horrible (VERY slow.)	04:35
puff	Guess he'll learn that part the hard way.	04:35
KindOne	mcurran: i don't care how complicated... send me a PM if you find a link	04:35
greezmunkey	KindOne, I posted mine, but I got your nick wrong see above	04:35
puff	plytheman: UBuntu works pretty well on a thumb drive.	04:36
plytheman	does buntu have a mac version? I don't even know =S	04:36
benay1	:( 294 people in #vwmare but the channel seems dead, no one is talking	04:36
losha	flanders: um, try wavbreaker (disclaimer: I've never used this myself)	04:36
flanders	losha, so what I do is split automatically at every 60 seconds. If I want to continue where I left off (podcast episode, for example), I can just quickly skip to the track # I left off on.	04:36
mezquitale	plytheman, im pretty sure there's a lot of people with macs that have ubuntu installed on your machines	04:36
benay1	no one is giving me a clue there :(	04:36
flanders	losha, is it a plugin for k3b or another application entirely?	04:36
^c\|0ud^	Can anyone tell me how to get the icons back from the weather applet, they are missing? Please and Thank You! :)	04:36
judaman	So im on ubuntu 9.10 and vpnc just doesn't work, I start it and all my connections to outside world drop, worked fine on 9.04, dammiitt! i hate debugging	04:36
KindOne	greezmunkey: just PM me a link	04:36
plytheman	mezquitale, sweet deal, hopefully he does have intel and not ppc, should make things a bit easier	04:37
greezmunkey	KindOne, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/323010/	04:37
slide	I have a VGA 8" touchscreen LCD monitor connected as a secondary monitor, the native resolution is 1600x1200 but under Display Preferences that is not an option, is there anyway to add it or manually set it res to that?	04:37
losha	flanders: sorry, it's a separate app. You did ask for a k3b feature....	04:37
benay1	has anyone here has experience with vmware player 3, ubuntu 9.10 as host, and vista as guest to have NAT works?	04:37
mcurran	KindOne: I used to do it by running displayconfig-gtk, setting the display the way you want it with the vesa driver, restarting, and then replacing the vesa driver with nvidia in xorg.conf, the only problem, displayconfig-gtk is now obsolete, so you'll need to add some old repos in order to get it, or download it and all it's dependencies.	04:37
greezmunkey	KindOne, I don't PM	04:37
flanders	losha, I can use mp3splt-gtk to split the mp3 podcasts, but I was hoping K3B had a similar feature that Brasero has: auto-split tracks.	04:38
KindOne	greezmunkey: okay	04:38
^c\|0ud^	Can anyone tell me how to get the icons back from the weather applet, they are missing? Please and Thank You! :)	04:38
flanders	losha, Brasero is acting really goofy for me. It doesn't seem to unmount discs when erasing them or when burning, and this has ruined some of my CDs.	04:38
rweait	warnings every few seconds from Karmic. No problem on previous 8.04 installation. Where to look? unable to enumerate USB device on port 1	04:38
losha	flanders: brasero is incredibly buggy. Not sure why....	04:38
lovre	what is that program for ubuntu that creates thumbnails?	04:39
flanders	losha, also, Brasero puts the FIRST 60 seconds as the LAST track, but the rest are in proper order. This seems like a bug that was overlooked.	04:39
rage	Can you have multiple drives mounting a single point in fstab? e.g UUID=x /mnt/usb_backup ext3 user,noauto 0 0\n UUID=y /mnt/usb_backup ext3 user,noauto 0 0,	04:39
rage	Obviously there would be a conflict if both are plugged in at once, but I am not fussed	04:39
flanders	rage, that sounds impossible.	04:39
losha	flanders: well, I don't see any google hits for k3b and autosplit....	04:39
KindOne	mcurran: if you find any more information about my driver issue, you can PM me.	04:39
flanders	rage, what about looking into LVM then?	04:39
flanders	losha, no problem, thanks for trying though.	04:40
losha	flanders: actually, this site says it can split files, so poke around: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-extra-gear&m=111866789022998&w=2	04:41
Tartaros	the gFTP application tells me "The protocol 'FTP' is currently not supported." how wrong is that?!	04:41
mcurran	I don't know what that means. Try seeing if you have anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf now, and if not, run the program for display settings and add a monitor, vesa driver, and resolution, restart, replace "vesa" with "nvidia" and the resolutions should stay.	04:41
Tartaros	what other protocol should it support than the one in it's name...	04:41
lstarnes	Tartaros: what about ftp in lowercase?	04:41
flanders	losha, I know it can split manually, but that's tedious.	04:42
mcurran	KindOne: I would just give you my old xorg, but I don't have that machine anymore. If you have an email, I can email it to you in a day or so...	04:42
iconmefisto	trying to mount nfs, I get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting	04:42
KindOne	mcurran: PM = private message	04:42
losha	flanders: oh, right. Back to square one, then...	04:42
Tartaros	lstarnes: heh, looks like that was it. still, it's uppercase in the name too :)	04:43
greezmunkey	KindOne, are you not able to use the xorg file I posted for you?	04:43
iconmefisto	also, I can't ping from the remote machine to this one	04:43
greezmunkey	KindOne, I have the same basic card...	04:43
flanders	losha, if only GNOME programs weren't so buggy.	04:43
KindOne	greezmunkey: i am about to try that, i just like having multiple backup plans...	04:44
flanders	losha, ironically, even though I use the GNOME desktop, I find myself preferring KDE applications.	04:44
greezmunkey	KindOne, k	04:44
losha	flanders: the solution to that is to learn to use the cli versions....	04:44
Hb_Kai	hey, i'm trying to burn a disc on ubuntu but it's not working. i was wondering if it has anything to do with the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system on the disc, does ubuntu have support for this?	04:44
flanders	Hb_Kai, what error is it giving you?	04:45
iconmefisto	Hb_Kai: pretty sure it does	04:45
nic1	rashed2020: did you use exec for mplayer,in any other window manager config? if so can you please tell me	04:45
rashed2020	nic1: metacity	04:46
mcurran	Anyone else have an ES1968 sound card, or no sound on karmic?	04:46
iconmefisto	mcurran: I have no sound on karmic	04:46
greezmunkey	KinfOne, check this if you didn't already know how...: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196661	04:46
mcurran	icommefisto: Yeah, I have only some sounds, like system sounds, but not music played from any apps.	04:47
greezmunkey	s/KinfOne/KindOne	04:47
KindOne	greezmunkey, alright	04:47
alabd	Good day everyone , Libtool is installed but there is not such /usr/bin/libtool folder ?	04:48
mcurran	I also have an ancient GPU (ATI 3D RAGE LT PRO) and I can't get any streaming videos online, or wmv or anything, I don't know if it's the driver, old card, or something fixable	04:48
iconmefisto	mcurran: is this a new karmic install? or upgrade from jaunty?	04:49
mcurran	I'm actually compiling the kernel now, hoping I'll get better 3D acceleration afterwards, but I don't really see why I would since I didn't add any specific instructions towards drm or anything.	04:49
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losha	alabd: /usr/bin/libtool should be an executable file...	04:50
mcurran	new karmic, actually right now I'm running Linux Mint 8 RC1, basically karmic, and I'm compiling the new kernel 2.6.31-15-generic	04:50
alabd	losha: but locate libtool just show 2 address	04:50
alabd	/usr/share/gtksourceview-2.0/language-specs/libtool.lang	04:51
alabd	/var/cache/apt/archives/libiptcdata0_1.0.2+libtool01-2ubuntu1_i386.deb	04:51
alabd	so where is libtool ?	04:51
iconmefisto	trying to mount nfs, I get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting	04:51
lstarnes	alabd: did you install it?	04:51
alabd	lstarnes: yes it is installed!	04:51
lstarnes	alabd: try using which libtool	04:52
mcurran	icommefisto, I had the sound problem on my karmic rc1 install also and its here to	04:52
losha	alabd: your locate info may be out of date. What does ls -l /usr/bin/libtool say?	04:52
lstarnes	alabd: or dpkg -L libtool	04:52
alabd	losha: how to up2date it ?	04:52
alabd	lstarnes: /usr/bin/libtool	04:52
lstarnes	alabd: then it is installed	04:52
mcurran	icommefisto did you download the necessary packages for nfs support?	04:53
losha	alabd: sudo updatedb (and then wait...)	04:53
lstarnes	alabd: /usr/bin/libtool is a file, not a directory	04:53
iconmefisto	mcurran: I had a similar problem to yours, but also some video wouldn't show when playing. but system notification sounds worked. that was a jaunty->karmic upgrade though	04:53
alabd	lstarnes: yes	04:53
losha	mcurran: strictly speaking, we don't even talk to mint users...	04:54
Timmymayes	which package would have gl.h for compiling things	04:54
Timmymayes	for opengl	04:54
mcurran	iconmefisto: So you never fixed it?	04:54
greezmunkey	mint who	04:54
mcurran	oh yeah losha, why not - Actually I was running the karmic rc release just before and honestly this ancient computer (compaq presario 5660) is running at least 4 times faster with mint's rc release now.	04:55
lstarnes	Timmymayes: try using apt-file search gl.h	04:55
Hb_Kai	flanders: hey, sorry i had a phone call. it shows me a log and asks me to save it, view it or close. shall i upload that to pastebin?	04:55
iconmefisto	mcurran: yes I did, after a few days googling. it was because some codec packages I had installed had changed names in karmic, so I had to track down which ones, and make sure the right ones were in place. from memory, it was mostly ffmpeg-related packages	04:56
ubuntu	Hello, I'm just checking...	04:56
losha	mcurran: mainly 'cos mint has it's own channel I thought...	04:57
Hilikus	is there some way i can make the FS enforce the owner and group of the content files in a directory? i'm writing a script to do maintenance in my music collection and i can do everything withou root access except guarantee that the owner:group are correct	04:57
mcurran	losha: I'm actually running xchat, firefox, and serveral other apps, while also compiling a kernel - in karmic I tried compiling and the machine would immediately crash...	04:57
bobofosho13	can someone here help a noob uninstall ubuntu on a windows xp-ubuntu dual-boot?	04:57
Hilikus	if i do this just using chown i would need to run the script as root	04:57
Arsin	How do I search for a file ?	04:57
lstarnes	Arsin: locate filename	04:57
mcurran	Yeah, I'm banned remember - That's why I was asking about ip address masking	04:57
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Hilikus	Arsin: locate	04:57
lstarnes	mcurran: getting a cloak to get around a ban isn't allowed on this network	04:58
* bobofosho13 would appreciate some help		04:58
losha	mcurran: well, no surprise to me. karmic was release because of the date, not because it was _ready_ or anything dumb like that...	04:58
mcurran	I'm not talking about this network	04:58
lstarnes	bobofosho13: ask in ##windows	04:58
bobofosho13	ok	04:58
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bobofosho13	thnx	04:58
jrtroberts	well if you isp gives you a dynamic address just change the address	04:59
Timmymayes	lstarnes, thanks	05:00
EntityReborn	k	05:00
EntityReborn	I haz a question.	05:00
greezmunkey	bobofosho13, go to Ubuntu's download site, follow the steps carefully, and it will install for you automatically.	05:00
jrtroberts	or stop doing whatever got you banned	05:00
lstarnes	Timmymayes: it might be glut.h, but I might be wrong	05:00
EntityReborn	when running Zelda:A link into the past, my audio is stuttery as hell	05:00
EntityReborn	any way to fix this?>	05:00
losha	mcurran: so why were you banned?	05:00
EntityReborn	I've tried increasing the priority	05:01
losha	Timmymayes: I don't see gl.h in an opengl package in karmic, offhand...	05:01
Timmymayes	losha, i grabbed a few files and fixed my issue	05:01
Timmymayes	Now I just need to figure out where to get the vorbis dev lib	05:02
lstarnes	Timmymayes: libvorbis-dev?	05:02
greezmunkey	so that's how you do that...	05:02
Timmymayes	lstarnes, trying that now	05:02
EntityReborn	anyone?	05:03
ubuntu	IYa	05:03
losha	Timmymayes: for future reference: apt-cache search vorbis \| egrep dev	05:03
mcurran	so should i use vidalia with tor	05:04
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mcurran	losha: One of the admins or whatever kept getting on my a## about channel regulations or whatever so I told him to go f himself	05:05
losha	mcurran: yeah, that'll do it...	05:05
bazhang	!ot \| mcurran	05:05
ubottu	mcurran: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	05:05
jrtroberts	EntityReborn: You need to remember that with emulators, the audio drivers are all open source too. they are buggy and don't work with all hardware.	05:05
jrtroberts	sometimes you need to either find another rom or try another emulator	05:06
mcurran	Yeah, but I usually help a lot of noobs over there, so it's more of a loss for them.	05:06
ubuntu	I need to install a Microphone Driver for my PC.	05:06
bazhang	mcurran, stay on topic and watch the language please	05:06
Timmymayes	losha, thanks	05:06
ubuntu	Any one?	05:06
jonz	hello, I'm seeing "italc client daemon" in my startup apps. I'm trying to see why my install has slowed down after an upgrade. I've read that italc is an educational tool. is it something that's been integraded w/Ubuntu to help the user use the system a bit better? or is it purely something that probably came w/my Educational apps I installed via Synaptic??	05:07
mcurran	bazhang: will do, I'm just answering questions relayed to me also.	05:07
greezmunkey	bazhang, wazzup!	05:07
mcurran	ubuntu: So assuming your mic is not supported now?	05:07
stephen_	could someone tell me how to open my favorite channels for irc	05:07
losha	mcurran: I had success following this: http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en	05:07
SpaceRat	Hello	05:08
stephen_	could someone tell me how to open my favorite channels for irc?	05:08
bazhang	stephen_, /join #channel or set to autojoin when you start your irc client	05:08
EntityReborn	jrtroberts, correct, just wondering if any known helps were known	05:08
stephen_	thanks	05:08
lstarnes	stephen_: in which client?	05:08
bazhang	stephen_, which client	05:08
stephen_	xchat	05:09
losha	jonz: it came with your educational apps....	05:09
SpaceRat	My question: Is Ubuntu 9.10 supposed to support RAID5 on Intel ICH10R (dmraid)? I tried to google that information, but dmraid is painfully documented.	05:09
bazhang	stephen_, go to xchat, network list edit ubuntu server and add the channels there	05:09
jonz	losha, thanks :)	05:09
jrtroberts	EntityReborn usually it is good to search the forums related to the emulator package you are using.	05:10
Jordan_U	SpaceRat: All I know is that grub2 doesn't support /boot on dmraid yet	05:10
nic1	rashed2020: what exec command do you give for mplayer in metacity?	05:11
EntityReborn	k	05:11
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: hm, well, that wouldn't be the biggest problem, as I have one non-RAID HDD left ...	05:11
EntityReborn	jrtroberts, thanks	05:11
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: but Ubuntu setup freezes at 47% of the pre-partitioning check-up	05:12
zilla1	where would i find the grub menu.lst file?	05:12
Jordan_U	SpaceRat: Live CD or alternate?	05:12
rashed2020	nic1: Go to /home/username/.autostart	05:12
Jordan_U	!grub2 \| zilla1	05:12
ubottu	zilla1: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	05:12
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: uhm, DVD	05:12
alabd	stephen_: /j #channel	05:12
Jordan_U	SpaceRat: Graphical installer or "text based" installer?	05:13
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: i tried both	05:13
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: i did three attempts, 1st graphical no changes	05:13
apple	testing my IRC client, does it work? yes??!	05:13
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: 2nd text mode no changes	05:13
Jordan_U	apple: No	05:13
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: 3rd graphical with all debugging switches (noapic, noacpi,...) except nodmraid set	05:14
SpaceRat	Jordan_U: all froze at the same point, recognizing my harddisks for partitioning	05:14
apple	well at least the telepathic output is working	05:14
zilla1	Jordan_U, i upgraded from 9.04, and haven't installed grub2	05:15
Jordan_U	zilla1: Then /boot/grub	05:15
Timmymayes	anyone here experienced with dual monitors?	05:16
banisterfiend	hey guys	05:16
banisterfiend	i have a .7z archive but i cant seem to open it in ubuntu, how do i do it?	05:16
SpaceRat	www.7-zip.org	05:16
chu_	Hey I'm looking to buy a desktop system primarily for Ubuntu, anyone wanna throw somee names at me? Hah	05:17
IdleOne	!7zip	05:17
Jordan_U	banisterfiend: Install 7zip with synaptic / apt	05:17
ubottu	Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression	05:17
mcurran	Timmymayes: I think dual monitors depends on the Xinerama option in xorg.	05:17
banisterfiend	Jordan_U: ok thanks...just apt-get install 7zip ?	05:17
mcurran	Timmymayes: or use nvidia-settings to configure a second monitor with nvidia card	05:17
khensthoth	banisterfiend: You need to install an additional package called p7zip	05:17
SpaceRat	chu_: huh?	05:17
Timmymayes	mcurran, my question is more about controlling windows with dual monitros	05:18
Timmymayes	i want a hotkey to jump a window from screen to screen	05:18
chu_	Well, I want hardware which specifically works with ubuntu	05:18
SpaceRat	chu_: like "give me animalic names..." "pig"	05:18
mcurran	Maybe there's a plugin for compiz for that?	05:18
banisterfiend	khensthoth: will that make it so i can use .7z files with my normal archive manager? or ill have to use a special 7zip program to open .7z archives?	05:18
bastid_raZor	!hardware > chu_	05:18
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ubottu	chu_, please see my private message	05:18
SpaceRat	chu_: i'm not much into Linux, as it doesn't even install :)	05:19
Timmymayes	compis?	05:19
mcurran	SpaceRat: You mean you can't handle an install	05:19
SpaceRat	chu_: but if i would want a system that runs for sure, i would get the system made from components at a pc store	05:19
SpaceRat	chu_: rather than getting a complete system :)	05:19
khensthoth	banisterfiend: If you install p7zip (or p7zip-full) you will be able to use it with the normal archive manager.	05:19
BableOn	hey folks, I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and all went well except my lilo.conf was wipped clean so lilo would not install	05:19
mcurran	TimmyMayes: compiz-fusion	05:19
banisterfiend	khensthoth: thanks.	05:19
Jordan_U	chu_: Dell and system76 sell Ubuntu laptops and desktops	05:20
SpaceRat	mcurran: Linux can't handle my RAID, it seems.	05:20
khensthoth	banisterfiend: Just note that I have experienced problems with password protected 7zip files in Ubuntu 9.10 with p7zip, but installing p7zip-full solves it.	05:20
SpaceRat	at least the German Dell Linux systems are far from being optimized for Linux :)	05:20
Jordan_U	chu_: http://dell.com/ubuntu http://www.system76.com/	05:20
mcurran	SpaceRat: Yeah, I've never tried RAID configs on linux	05:20
SpaceRat	mcurran: seems neither did the developers :)	05:21
Timmymayes	mcurran, there are tons of hotkey options under the default "keyboard shortcuts" option in ubuntu and it has an "add command" feature but i cannot think of nor google a way to do what i want it to	05:21
DanaG	E: module-bluetooth-device.c: Assertion '(size_t) decoded == a2dp->frame_length' failed at modules/bluetooth/module-bluetooth-device.c:1367, function a2dp_process_push(). Aborting.	05:22
DanaG	GRRRR	05:22
BableOn	I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 from the upgrade manager.. it's cleaned out my lilo.conf file.. any way to retrieve the previous one.. i cant see if it made a backup or not	05:24
DanaG	http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/636	05:24
DanaG	GRRRRR	05:24
noir	Hey guys. I've got a question about Brasero. Anyone know what kind of image files it produces with the "CD copy" option? It makes 2 files: a small .toc file and a large image file with no extension. Mounting it (at least as ISO9660) doesn't seem to work...	05:25
Jordan_U	BableOn: Why are you using lilo?	05:25
noir	BableOn: maybe check to see if there's a file called "lilo.conf~"?	05:26
Jordan_U	BableOn: Ubuntu is never supposed to delete configuration files that have been edited by the user, so it should either still be there or you should be able to generate an identical config file by re-installing lilo ( But I'm still curious why you would do such a thing :)	05:27
leaf-sheep	What is ^a-@? I'm trying to access a menu using the said command.	05:27
lstarnes	leaf-sheep: maybe ctrl+A followed by @	05:28
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DanaG	http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/pulse-bt-crash.log	05:28
DanaG	Grrrrrrrr.	05:28
leaf-sheep	lstarnes: Thanks! That did the trick!	05:29
BableOn	been a while.. I might have selected lilo when I installed this ages back because I'mm more familiar with it.. maybe it has both boot loaders installed and i have nothing to worry about	05:29
tanath	i'm having a weird issue with an SD card. i put files on it, and then when i unmounted it, it complained of errors. i can still see the files in nautilus, but gparted says it's unallocated space..	05:29
BableOn	now just trying to work out which one it's using	05:29
mcurran	gparted says unallocated or is it black	05:30
tanath	that is, my blackberry complained of errors	05:30
mcurran	did you try mounting by running nautilus as root	05:30
tanath	it now doesn't see anything	05:30
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Jordan_U	BableOn: apt-cache policy lilo grub grub-pc	05:30
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noir	tanath: sounds like something happened midway through a file copy. Best thing to do is copy off all your data and reformat the card. Use photorec to recover corrupt data if necessary	05:30
tanath	it's grey. gparted says unallocated	05:31
mcurran	tanath: That's definately wierd.	05:31
tanath	noir, mm, thought so. thanks	05:31
greezmunkey	hmmm, %Whmmm%w	05:31
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linuxguy2009	Anyone know how to rearrange the favorites launchers in netbook remix 9.10?	05:31
tanath	mcurran, yeah, i can still see the files, and play the music..	05:31
tanath	mcurran, and i can unmount and do it again	05:32
mcurran	tanath: can you copy them to your hd?	05:32
tanath	mcurran, i think so	05:32
eigma	I'm on 9.10 trying to disable apache2 from starting at bootup. my command is "sudo update-rc.d apache2 stop 20 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ." and I get the message "System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.". the links to indeed exist, I wish for them to be adjusted so that they are all K20*'s. any ideas?	05:32
mcurran	Did you try unmounting from terminal and then remounting the sd, then refreshing gparted, sometimes the automount function in gparted is finicky	05:33
tanath	mcurran, yep	05:33
tanath	mcurran, i wanna tell gparted to check teh filesystem but it doesn't see one :-/	05:34
tanath	mcurran, yet i just copied the files out of it	05:34
mcurran	I'd just copy the files out and reformat	05:34
lstarnes	eigma: try sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove	05:34
Jordan_U	tanath: Is the correct device selected in the top right corner?	05:34
tanath	Jordan_U, yep	05:35
SpaceRat	well, as nobody seems to be able to help with dmraid, i will wait for the next release of Ubuntu :)	05:35
SpaceRat	cyas	05:35
noir	Anyone have any idea about the images Brasero creates? This is weird and annoying	05:35
dewmsolo	hello all	05:35
mcurran	SpaceRat: How could it be a RAID if you never installed linux in the first place - what is being stored in raid then?	05:35
eigma	lstarnes: worked, thanks!	05:35
Billiard	noir: whats anoying?	05:35
noir	Billiard: I can't tell what kind of filesystem it used to make the image. It makes a small .toc file and a large disk image with no extension. "file" command just returns "data" on it	05:36
noir	Billiard: and Googling around got me nowhere. Tried mounting it as a .bin and an ISO9660	05:36
Billiard	noir: its probably just a byte for byte copy of the image, so an iso if the cd was in iso format	05:37
dewmsolo	here is a quick one for you guys...i just installed 9.10 for the first time and now i'm looking to install the build-essential package except apt-get doesn't see it...am i forgetting something or was it renamed?	05:37
linuxguy2009	noir: check pm	05:37
Billiard	noir: you try mounting without specifying the fstype?	05:37
lstarnes	dewmsolo: that should work	05:37
noir	Billiard: yup, and "auto" mode. Says "you must specify the filesystem type."	05:38
dewmsolo	sudo apt-get install build-essential .....it returns Couldn't find package build-essential	05:38
Madpilot	ubottu, info build-essential	05:38
Madpilot	ubottu, info build-essentials	05:38
Madpilot	hmm, bot napping?	05:38
Geistanon	dewmsolo, have you updated your apt list?	05:38
nomad77	!build-essential	05:38
ubottu	Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	05:38
lstarnes	Madpilot: it takes a while to look up	05:38
CountDown	Has anyone successfully suspended and resumed Ubuntu 9.10 on an iBook G4? Suspend works, but resume is busted on mine.	05:38
Geistanon	dewmsolo, also, have you added sources	05:38
Jordan_U	Madpilot: Ubottu is somewhat narcoleptic	05:38
mcurran	dewmsolo: did you check your sources.list to make sure all the repos are uncommented.	05:39
bastid_raZor	noir: copy cd isn't intended to be mounted. if you want to mount it choose the iso option	05:39
dewmsolo	doesn't synaptic do that when you run it? cause i went in there after trying in terminal and it wasn't there either	05:39
dewmsolo	i just updated the list...i will try again now	05:39
Geistanon	not necessarily	05:39
noir	bastid_raZor: well it shouldn't matter whether it's intended to be mounted...there's got to be some rhyme and reason to the filesystem the copy uses, no?	05:39
mcurran	dewnsolo: do apt-get update first	05:40
linuxguy2009	CountDown: Tried power button to wake up?	05:40
alex87	hey guys, how can i merge two text files on the command line? sort of like how git does it?	05:40
Geistanon	noir, I came in late, what was your problem?	05:40
dewmsolo	yeah that was the problem ....my bad....list wasn't up to date	05:40
noir	bastid_raZor: also I no longer have access to the CDs I copied, so I kind of need to work from these images	05:40
Geistanon	dewmsolo, /nod	05:40
zilla1	cat a b > c	05:40
zilla1	right?	05:40
Billiard	alex87: cat txt1 txt2 > txtboth	05:40
noir	Geistanon: Trying to figure out what filesystem or image type Brasero uses for disk-to-image copies	05:40
dewmsolo	thnx all	05:40
noir	Geistanon: and whether it's mountable	05:40
Geistanon	noir, okay, one moment	05:41
alex87	Billiard: thanks, is there a way to do a diff merge?	05:41
Ender2070	I updated my ubuntu server from 9.04 to 9.10 but its still using kernel 2.6.28	05:41
CountDown	linuxguy2009: It's not that the system doesn't know when to resume, it's that the system can't fully resume -- I get only a black screen with a frozen mouse pointer.	05:41
Jordan_U	alex87: Try the "merge" command	05:41
firefly2442	How do I set my default sound playback in Ubuntu? I have two audio cards (built-in and PCI), the PCI I installed after installing Ubuntu, and now it's messed up	05:41
mcurran	Ender2070 you'll need to do sudo apt-get dist upgrade	05:41
Geistanon	firefly2442, in the command line type alsamixer	05:42
Jordan_U	firefly2442: System > Preferences > Sound	05:42
alex87	Jordan_U: thanks	05:42
Jordan_U	alex87: np	05:42
linuxguy2009	noir: I personally find brasero and k3b to be lacking in trusting my burns to them for fear of data loss. I bought Nero Linux 4 its great. BTW file roller can open iso files for extraction if thats what you need.	05:42
lstarnes	alex87: diff3 should work if you have the original and the two modified versions that need merging	05:42
Geistanon	noir, what are the files currently?	05:42
firefly2442	ok, what's the difference between the card name versus playback?	05:42
khensthoth	firefly2442: Or you could check if your BIOS settings has an option to disable the build-in audio.	05:42
Billiard	linuxguy2009: nero linux?, just use dd and cdrecord	05:43
noir	linuxguy2009: I know, I hate Brasero, but I had to make some disc images earlier and I had no proper image tools and no Internet connection to get them	05:43
Jordan_U	linuxguy2009: Why do you fear data loss? They can bot check the md5sum to confirm that the disk burned properly.	05:43
alex87	lstarnes: thanks, i don't have the old file unfortunately	05:43
mcurran	Brasero has a lot of bugs, but it's my favorite	05:43
Geistanon	noir, ISO? CUE?	05:43
noir	Geistanon: I don't know what they are...for each disc copy I have a small .toc file and a large disc image with no extension	05:43
linuxguy2009	Billiard: I do LOTs of multisession burns and many of the burn apps that are free simply dont do so well.	05:44
datz	Hi, I have just manually added a user through command, but when I try to run a script, there is not adequate permission to write to a file. How can I add this?	05:44
Ender2070	mcurran - ty	05:44
Billiard	noir: is it maybe a format to be opened by brasero?	05:44
firefly2442	so, I can double click on a file and it will play correctly in media player, however I want to play it in mplayer, but there's no sound, I went into preferences and sound but I don't know how to configure the driver (or which one to use for that matter, alsa, oss... etc.)	05:44
mcurran	Ender2070: What's ty?	05:44
Ender2070	mcurran - thank you	05:45
Billiard	datz: you are trying to write where and with the new user you are trying ?	05:45
mcurran	oh, no prob	05:45
noir	Billiard: that's what I need to find out. I mean obviously the .toc files are meant to be burned by Brasero, yes. I just want to avoid wasting discs on each one of these images (I have 6 or 7)	05:45
Ender2070	:)	05:45
Jordan_U	noir: Was it an audio CD?	05:45
datz	Billiard: yes with new use, and pid file	05:45
datz	user*	05:45
Billiard	datz: where is the file	05:46
CountDown	How do I debug a resume problem?	05:46
noir	Jordan_U: indeed they are	05:46
Billiard	noir: audio cds arent mounted	05:46
datz	Billiard: the file is in a home dir	05:46
Geistanon	noir, the disc image is a .BIN	05:46
datz	it is created	05:46
Billiard	datz: the new users home dir?	05:46
noir	Billiard: alright...but is there any way I can rip the audio data from the images without burning them to physical discs?	05:46
datz	Billiard: I didn't create a dir for the new user	05:47
mcurran	Is there really much performance gain by running raid configurations anyways? Comparitively meaning same disks, but two of them instead of one?	05:47
Billiard	noir: probably, witch tool do you use? just setup a loop and tell the ripping software that is your cd device	05:47
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Billiard	datz: so user2 is trying to write to user1's home dir?	05:47
OPTIMUS	I guess...	05:48
noir	Billiard: That is exactly my plan, but first I need to have the image mounted	05:48
datz	Billiard: yes	05:48
OPTIMUS	No women	05:48
Billiard	noir: no you dont mount it	05:48
noir	Billiard: so just point a ripping tool at the file?	05:48
Geistanon	noir, http://he.fi/bchunk/	05:48
jose__	ayuda por favor	05:48
Delvien	Is there anyway to use UNR's window-picker-applet in a non UNR environment?	05:48
Billiard	noir: yeah or if the tool doesnt like a file use losetup or w/e its called	05:48
OPTIMUS	Can i ask?	05:48
jose__	quie habla español	05:48
jose__	?	05:48
OPTIMUS	Is there any program for HTML chat?	05:49
Flannel	!es \| jose__	05:49
ubottu	jose__: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	05:49
Billiard	datz: users are normally not given permissions to write to other users home directories	05:49
jose__	ya lo andube	05:49
mcurran	Billiard, couldn't you just mount the image to a folder and then copy to another destination using cp /.*	05:49
jose__	y no encotre	05:49
Geistanon	noir, did that page help you?	05:49
jose__	talvez usted me pueda ayudar?	05:49
Billiard	mcurran: no he is trying to rip an audio cd	05:49
OPTIMUS	Hablas jose_	05:49
noir	Geistanon: yes I was looking at bchunk earlier, haven't tried it yet though	05:50
mcurran	you can't mount audio disk images to folders?	05:50
noir	Geistanon: thanks	05:50
Geistanon	Billiard, I was under the impression that he had already ripped them	05:50
jose__	W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 6E871C4A881574DE	05:50
jose__	W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 2ED6BB6042C24D89	05:50
jose__	W: Imposible obtener http://ppa.launchpad.net/bisgi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found	05:50
Geistanon	Billiard, and was now trying to get their data	05:50
FloodBot1	jose__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	05:50
jose__	que hago?	05:50
Billiard	Geistanon: its just a byte for byte copy of the cd afaik	05:50
Jordan_U	mcurran: Audio CD's don't have a "real" file system	05:50
datz	Billiard: easiest thing would be to add home dir for new user?	05:50
Geistanon	Billiard, its a .BIN	05:51
Billiard	Geistanon: yes	05:51
jose__	help	05:51
jose__	help	05:51
Jordan_U	!es \| jose__	05:51
ubottu	jose__: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	05:51
OPTIMUS	I have almost no problem with Ubuntu	05:51
OPTIMUS	Really	05:51
OPTIMUS	I am serious	05:51
OPTIMUS	jose_ qual és tu problema?	05:52
noir	Geistanon, Billiard: thanks guys, trying bchunk at the moment	05:52
Geistanon	noir, bchunk should work for you	05:53
dman777	what is a good mp3 stream ripper for linux?	05:53
soreau	dman777: mp3 stream ripper?	05:54
Jordan_U	dman777: vlc	05:54
mcurran	vlc is awesome - I had it running streaming tv and radio on a jailbroken iphone	05:55
jonz	anyone know how I can get the "metaballs" screensaver back? I just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04, and that screensaver was the only one I liked	05:55
dman777	soreau: ya, i used that one before but it didn't allow me to customize the recording directories. it made to many nested ones. i haven't used it in awhile though. maybe things have changed	05:55
datz	Billiard: I have the same problem when I create a home dir for the new user	05:56
datz	Billiard: I think I need to edit the permissions of the user, is there any tutorial for this?	05:56
soreau	dman777: If you look who said what, I didn't recommend anything	05:56
Jordan_U	jonz: xscreensaver-data-extra	05:56
dman777	lol	05:56
jonz	Jordan_U: sudo apt-get that?	05:57
Jordan_U	jonz: Yes	05:57
jonz	Jordan_U: thanks :0	05:57
Jordan_U	jonz: np :)	05:57
mcurran	anyone have the same problem with firefox saying it's still open after closing and trying to reopen it - I have to do killall firefox and then run it, which works, but it's a pain.	05:59
bluntman225	Can anyone help me set up my laptop to output display to a HDTV When I try there is a big black line in the left hand side of both screens	06:00
soreau	mcurran: Yea, it sucks. I put a launcher on my panel to kill firefox	06:00
Billiard	mcurran: maybe an addon is causing it, dunno	06:00
bluntman225	Soreau: Can you pm me the instructions to get that launcher	06:00
soreau	heh	06:00
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Jordan_U	bluntman225: Did you setup the second display with System > Preferences > Display?	06:01
mcurran	do you need to be root or can I use the custom launcher from the panel options	06:01
noir	Geistanon, Billiard: bchunk isn't working unfortunately; it needs a .bin file and a .cue file. I have .toc files, not .cue files. I tried converting .toc to .cue with cuetools, but it throws an I/O error so the file must have a nonstandard syntax or something. Brasero has really done a number on me here...	06:01
losha	mcurran: probably an add-on. I haven't seen that failure mode in firefox in ages. Try #firefox ?	06:01
Billiard	noir: what program do you normally use to rip your audio cds?	06:01
bluntman225	Jordan_U: I dont have that option. Im not using 9.01 either	06:01
Jordan_U	noir: Brasero itself won't even open it?	06:02
bluntman225	Im using the version before that	06:02
datz	Billiard: any other suggestions?	06:02
bluntman225	Its a laptop as well	06:02
Jordan_U	bluntman225: What version of Ubuntu are you using?	06:02
ardchoille	sounds like he's using Intrepid	06:02
bluntman225	Jordan_U: also my mouse is off. Like the pointer shows up 3 inches to the left of where its actually located	06:02
Billiard	datz: you can use sudo to write to any folder, but be careful	06:02
noir	Billiard: Rubyripper, now. Used to use sound-juicer and various stuff. But like I said I had none of those options when I made these images.	06:02
soreau	bluntman225: It's just like adding any other launcher except the command is 'killall firefox'	06:03
noir	Jordan_U: No, Brasero is the _only_ thing that will open it.	06:03
bluntman225	how to tell what version im usin	06:03
Jordan_U	!version \| bluntman225	06:03
ubottu	bluntman225: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »	06:03
losha	Every version of brasero I've ever tried to use was either incredibly under-featured, or incredibly buggy....	06:03
Geistanon	noir, try bin2iso	06:03
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Geistanon	noir, apt-get should have it	06:03
datz	Billiard: new user not in sudoers file	06:03
Geistanon	noir, i lied	06:04
Geistanon	noir, one moment	06:04
Jordan_U	noir: I have a crazy idea to try if you get really desparate :)	06:04
Billiard	datz: do you want him to be?	06:04
bluntman225	Jordan_U: Ubuntu 8.10	06:04
datz	Billiard: well I just want to be able to run this app as another user	06:04
Geistanon	noir, http://users.eastlink.ca/~doiron/bin2iso/	06:04
noir	Jordan_U: hahaha alright. of course I could just burn the CDs but that'd be a big defeat for me	06:04
Billiard	datz: why do you need to access another users home directory to do that?	06:05
datz	Billiard: if that's what it takes, then yes	06:05
ardchoille	bluntman225: yeah, that's also known as Intrepid Ibex	06:05
soreau	Jordan_U: Before posting, grade it on the hax scale in your head ;)	06:05
Flannel	datz: You'll want sudo then. To give sudo permissions to someone, add them to the admin group: sudo adduser uesrname admin	06:05
noir	Geistanon: ah thanks for the link, knew it wasn't in the repos	06:05
datz	Flannel: so just add them to a group, sounds easy enough, swhat I was thinking acutally	06:05
Geistanon	make sure to read the beginning of the page as well noir, as it pertains to your case	06:06
Flannel	datz: If they need to run a program as another user, you'll need to give them sudo access in one way or another. The easiest/simplest way to do that is to add them to the admin group.	06:06
Flannel	datz: If you just want them to be able to share files and stuff, yeah, just regular permissions can handle that.	06:06
datz	Flannel: thanks	06:07
Jordan_U	bluntman225: 8.10 is no longer supported ( and is not recieving any security updates ), you should really upgrade	06:07
ardchoille	Jordan_U: you sure about that?	06:08
user3	yahoo	06:08
zilla1	i think i installed 9.04 in some empty space at the end of my drive with windows on it. in the logical part where I installed /boot, there isn't a grub directory. What should I deduce from that?	06:08
Jordan_U	bluntman225: ardchoille: Wait, misread on old-releases.ubuntu.com, disreguard that :)	06:08
ardchoille	8.10 should be supported until April of 2011 I think	06:08
mcurran	So how many days to you think it's gonna take for this pos to compile the latest kernel? It's a Pentium II with 256 RAM.	06:08
ardchoille	ah, ok	06:08
Geistanon	mcurran, you're multitasking with that setup?	06:09
Flannel	ardchoille: Correct	06:09
ardchoille	erm.. 8.10 should be supported until April of 2010 I think	06:09
Flannel	ardchoille: er, sorry. April 2010	06:09
mcurran	Yeah, I can't believe it's actually working...	06:09
ardchoille	yeah	06:09
Madpilot	mcurran, which museum did you pilfer that out of? :)	06:10
Jordan_U	mcurran: Less than a day I would guess, less than an hour if you only include what you need	06:10
ardchoille	Madpilot: lol	06:10
jennie	I have two HDD, in first one windows xp is installed and it is SATA 80 GB with 2 partitions and there is second HDD 120 gb IDE in which ubuntu is intalled and now i want to reinstall winxp , what to do so that ubuntu can get back ???	06:10
infidel2	what does this mean: 'sudo: must be setuid root'?	06:10
mcurran	Well I had a 2000 dollar laptop so I gave my decent emachines to my sister, then my laptop got stolen, so now I'm stuck with the ancient desktop	06:10
Jordan_U	infidel2: Have you been using chmod recently?	06:11
datz	Flannel: all is working, thanks	06:11
infidel2	no	06:11
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zilla1	22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222.	06:11
FloodBot1	zilla1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:11
mcurran	Jordan_U how would I exclude what I don't need, I'd love to know...	06:12
Jordan_U	infidel2: What is the output of "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo" ?	06:12
mcurran	is there a command for that	06:12
zilla1	oh. shoot. sorry you all, kid got the keyboard	06:12
RDove	2 to you too	06:12
RDove	lol	06:12
Geistanon	mcurran, compile the kernel yourself	06:12
Jordan_U	mcurran: make menuconfig	06:12
Geistanon	mcurran, it is a lengthy process	06:13
Geistanon	mcurran, as well as being very involved	06:13
Jordan_U	mcurran: But if you weren't planning on doing that already you should know that there are pre-built kernels http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/	06:14
khensthoth	jennie: What do you mean by "so that ubuntu can get back"?	06:14
mcurran	Well I'm compiling by scractch like "sudo CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=1 AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs"	06:14
jennie	Khensthoth after reinstalling the grub will mess up and then i wont get menu	06:14
infidel2	Jordan_U -rwsr-xr-x	06:15
Jordan_U	mcurran: Why?	06:15
mcurran	Doesn't that make it more efficient.	06:15
Jordan_U	infidel2: The full line ( the user is important )	06:15
infidel2	root root	06:15
infidel2	Jordan_U sudo isnt what's telling me this, a program is	06:16
Jordan_U	infidel2: What program?	06:16
infidel2	strace	06:16
Geistanon	mcurran~ having a smaller kernel will take time off of your boot but little else	06:16
Jordan_U	infidel2: You need to put strace after sudo ( you can't strace setuid binaries )	06:17
infidel2	oh	06:17
khensthoth	jennie: If you were to reinstall WinXP in your 80GB SATA, then proceed to reinstall grub, shouldn't grub automatically detect the operating systems you have?	06:17
mcurran	Geistanon: But does compiling this way from the linux-image package optimize the kernel at all, or do you still get all the needles modules and everything else that doesn't pertain to the hardware/configuration	06:18
Jordan_U	mcurran: Doesn't optimize it at all	06:18
mcurran	Well, there should be a way to trim the kernel somehow...	06:18
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_carlos	:)	06:19
_carlos	hello	06:19
mcurran	This is the only way I know how to compile, because I used to do it this way when I had to appy a patch to my old laptop.	06:20
Jordan_U	mcurran: Unfortunately there is no way to automatically build a kernel for your specific hardware ( that I know of at least ). You need to figure out exactly what hardware you have and use make menuconfig to manually choose what to include	06:20
_carlos	that's right..	06:20
_carlos	make menuconfig is your friend	06:20
noir	Billiard, Geistanon: Thanks very much for your help! Finally figured it out. Needed to use bin2iso to convert the .toc file to .cue, and then bchunk to convert the .bin and .cue directly to WAVs with the "-w" switch	06:21
Jonny_	are there any help channels? New to Ubuntu	06:21
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Madpilot	Guest12672, this is the main help channel	06:21
Guest12672	I'm trying to get my flash player to work, it's specifically youtube that Doesn't work	06:22
Geistanon	noir~ glad to have helped	06:22
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Guest12672	like when i try to click the player in firefox	06:22
Guest12672	doesn't respond	06:22
mcurran	so what would be a command to begin a compilation with menuconfig?	06:22
Jordan_U	Guest12672: How did you install flash?	06:22
Geistanon	Guest12672, it would be helpful if you would register a name	06:23
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mcurran	actually nevermind, I'll look into it and read first	06:23
pipboy	sorry, i guess my previous name wasnt any good	06:23
noir	Geistanon: Hmm...looks like I spoke too soon. The WAV files are corrupt. Dang! I was so close	06:23
pipboy	good looking out	06:23
Geistanon	pipboy, in firefox go to about:plugins	06:23
pipboy	Jordan, i installed it when prompted in firefox, installed the adobe flash version (1st selection) and on another not im using X64	06:24
Geistanon	pipboy, What has the mime type "application/x-shockwave-flash"	06:24
Geistanon	pipboy~ within the about:plugins page	06:24
pipboy	give me a sec	06:25
pipboy	geistanon, application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes	06:25
Geistanon	pipboy~ is there only the 1?	06:26
sontek	When I ssh into my server it takes a good 2 minutes before it brings up the login prompt	06:26
Geistanon	pipboy~ most times that flash fails in ubu it is because of conflicting plugins	06:26
sontek	it doesn't take that long when I'm using putty from windows on the same computer	06:26
sontek	anything I can check in my ubuntu config?	06:26
Jordan_U	sontek: Is your server listening on port 22 and accessable via the internet?	06:26
losha	sontek: ssh -v to get some debugging output....	06:26
pipboy	Geistanon, i only see that as application /x shockwave-flash	06:27
brianherman	anybody here try chrome os?	06:28
Geistanon	pipboy~ on http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ , does the flash player check animate?	06:28
Hilikus	if i chmod i file, while rsync copy it next time or not?	06:28
Geistanon	brianherman~ it is not out yet	06:28
brianherman	geistanon: im building it right now http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html	06:28
Jordan_U	Geistanon: The source is	06:28
pipboy	Geistanon, it offered for me to install missing plugins, but i do see the check animation yes...	06:28
Billiard	noir: you could try one of the cd ripping tools you said you have used before using your file as the cd device	06:29
brianherman	i wish they had a live cd for chrome os	06:29
Jordan_U	noir: Desparate enough to try my crazy idea yet? :)	06:29
noir	Billiard: I can try that I suppose...	06:29
noir	Jordan_U: I definitely am. Hit me	06:29
Geistanon	brianherman, Jordan_U~ well gosh darn that was quick	06:30
Geistanon	pipboy~ then flash is actually operable. you said youtube fails?	06:30
Jordan_U	noir: sudo losetup -r /dev/loop0 /path/to/file.bin	06:31
losha	Hilikus: it depends on the rsync flags you use, and I can't recall if chmod changes the modified time of the file. You can always try rsync with the --dry-run flag to see it would do without it actually doing anything...	06:31
pipboy	Geistanon, like when i try to click buttons and what not, youtube, stickam, sometimes myspace music player, and sometimes lastfm. (mostly everything flash related methinks)	06:31
Jordan_U	noir: Then tell a cd ripping app that your cdrom drive is /dev/loop0	06:31
vin-	question	06:31
Geistanon	pipboy~ how exactly does it fail?	06:32
noir	Jordan_U: oooh I like it	06:32
sontek	losha: its hanging at debug1: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information	06:32
Billiard	Jordan_U: thats what i told him to try also, might work	06:32
ajay	hi	06:32
sontek	losha: once it does: debug1: Next authentication method: publickey its quick.	06:32
vin-	i installed ubuntu through wubi dual booting it with vista, i am about to update my vista to win7, since wubi installed linux though vista will updating to win7 harm anything? my dual boot option when i boot mainly?	06:33
losha	sontek: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794765	06:33
noir	Jordan_U: alright the loop is set up. Rubyrip doesn't let me do anything if I choose /dev/loop0 as the drive. I shall try a different app	06:33
vin-	anyone?	06:34
pipboy	Geistanon, when i click buttons...it doesnt work?	06:34
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vin-	i installed ubuntu through wubi dual booting it with vista, i am about to update my vista to win7, since wubi installed linux though vista will updating to win7 harm anything? my dual boot option when i boot mainly?	06:34
wolfstar	hola	06:34
wolfstar	hi	06:34
Geistanon	pipboy~ but the application itself is present?	06:34
Geistanon	pipboy~ what happens when you go here http://www.k2xl.com/games/boomshine/	06:35
vin-	u guys are no help	06:35
vin-	why r u here?	06:35
pipboy	Geistanon, yeah like it will display whatever the flash needed to load, but the buttons and i think right clicking doesnt work either	06:35
losha	vin-: here, have your money back...	06:35
pipboy	Geistanon, it loads, but i when i try to click play it does nothing	06:35
vin-	losha	06:36
vin-	here	06:36
vin-	smd	06:36
vin-	?	06:36
FloodBot1	vin-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:36
Geistanon	pipboy~ Well that's odd indeed.	06:36
Geistanon	pipboy~ I actually have no idea how to help you at this point.	06:36
pipboy	Geistanon, yeah... its okay, im thinking maybe if i can uninstall the flash plugin i currently have and install the open source ones maybe that would have a different outcome?	06:37
Geistanon	pipboy~ I suggest trying alternative flash plugins such as gnash, and make sure to disable ones which you arent testing currently via tools -> addons -> plugins	06:37
noir	Jordan_U: Tried abcde (nice CLI tool). It says "CD could not be read. Perhaps there's no CD in the drive?"	06:37
Geistanon	actually pipboy	06:38
Geistanon	A simple google search brought up this page ( http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/11/i-cannot-click-on-flash-in-ubuntu.html )	06:38
Geistanon	pipboy~ it would appear to be your exact problem	06:38
brianherman	pipboy: do u play fallout3	06:39
pipboy	brianherman, how'd you know?!	06:39
pipboy	:)	06:39
brianherman	ur name	06:39
brianherman	ever play 1 or 2	06:39
brianherman	?	06:39
Geistanon	pipboy~ although you may need to substitute the correct directory as you mentioned you're on x64, although the plugin itself may not be	06:40
pipboy	brianherman, yeah, those are the only ones i like, Fallout oblivion with guns edition wasnt any good imo	06:40
brianherman	i should get 1 and 2	06:40
brianherman	maybe after xmas i get money	06:40
pipboy	geistanon, thanks a bunch, what is a good way to go about installing these again?	06:40
pipboy	Brianherman, or you could just torrent them? need a link? ill gladly give it to you	06:41
Geistanon	pipboy~ given the page's contents i dont think you need to try alternate plugins yet	06:41
noir	Jordan_U, Billiard, Geistanon: Thanks for all your help guys, but I think I'll delete these useless images and wait till next week to rip these CDs proper. It's a shame, and I came close with the bin2iso/bchunk wav output combo (you can hear the music faintly under lots of static), so I'd call that a partial victory :) Cheers	06:41
pipboy	Geistanon, so what should i do then?	06:41
Geistanon	pipboy~ read the page i sent you	06:41
Jordan_U	noir: Try audacity as a last ditch effort before you give up	06:42
Geistanon	pipboy~ a comment someways down will help	06:42
Geistanon	noir~ audacity is quite brutal	06:42
losha	noir: cdparanoia has always worked well for me ripping audio cds	06:42
noir	Jordan_U: use audacity how?	06:42
noir	losha: that's why I use rubyrip. It's a great frontend to cdparanoia	06:42
pipboy	Geistanon, substituting the directory? i have no idea how to do that, as i've said i don't comprehend how installing works, i'm unfortunately a windows guy but im trying to learn	06:42
jayjay__	pipboy, in terminal "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"->restart ff	06:43
Jordan_U	noir: File > Input > audio	06:43
JuicyJ	Wat up ppl	06:43
noir	Jordan_U: yeah lol but I mean on what file...the WAVs I got?	06:43
pipboy	jayjay_, so these are just deb files?	06:43
Geistanon	pipboy~ hit alt+f2	06:43
jayjay__	yep	06:43
Geistanon	pipboy~ paste in sudo gedit /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer	06:43
Geistanon	does it bring up a file?	06:44
Jordan_U	noir: On the .bin, it probably won't work, and even then it might be one long audio file but it's worth a try	06:44
Geistanon	pipboy~ and hit enter obviously	06:44
noir	Jordan_U: ok	06:44
pipboy	Geistanon, enter whats that? Just kidding :P	06:44
alex87	hey guys, how do i workout who checked out a working copy?	06:44
chiques	How can I send a fax from Ubuntu?	06:44
pipboy	Geistanon, nothing came up	06:44
Geistanon	pipboy~ :P did it give you an empty file error?	06:45
pipboy	Geistanon, nothing...	06:45
Geistanon	pipboy~ try sudo gedit /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer instead	06:45
noir	Jordan_U: if I import it using Import > Raw Data and the default options, I get the same result as the WAV files: very loud digital-sounding static with the music faint in the background	06:46
noir	Jordan_U: so something along the way here must be close but not quite right	06:46
pipboy	Geistanon, nothing	06:46
Jordan_U	noir: Did you try importing as audio rather than "raw data"?	06:47
noir	Jordan_U: yes, nothing happens if I do that. Says "Audacity did not recognize the type of the file. If it is uncompressed, try importing it using 'Import Raw.'"	06:47
jayjay__	pipboy-result?	06:48
py1234	Entrez le texte ici...hii there	06:48
pipboy	I got nothing	06:48
Geistanon	pipboy~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259102	06:48
py1234	so what	06:48
pipboy	jayjay_ result for the deb files?	06:48
Geistanon	pipboy~ that thread is your best bet at this point	06:48
pipboy	jayjay_ lemme try those real quick	06:49
losha	noir: remind me, how was the original ripped?	06:49
pipboy	Geistanon, thanks ill give that a try!	06:49
noir	losha: using the "CD copy" option in Brasero. This results in an extensionless image file and a small accompanying .toc file	06:49
losha	noir: sigh. Brasero...	06:50
Geistanon	noir, losha, it was a bin	06:50
noir	losha: I know. If I had had net access at the time I'd have downloaded a real ripping tool, but I didn't. Now I wish I had booted into Windows and ripped them as Windows Media Lossless. At least then I could decompress the songs to WAV and then re-encode them with FLAC easily enough	06:51
jesuslololol	How do you bring an ubuntu machine into a windows network?	06:51
powertool08	jesuslololol: For filesharing, use samba	06:52
jesuslololol	what is that	06:52
jasonmchristos	please help how do i get a freenode room list with empathy on karmic?	06:52
jesuslololol	its just i need to get all the stuff i dled off this machine onto a windows machien	06:52
powertool08	jesuslololol: the program which enables filesharing on a windows friendly protocol...	06:52
jesuslololol	where do i get it at	06:53
Geistanon	powertool08~ samba is for developers	06:53
losha	noir: well it's hard to imagine what brasero did to the file which would result in static + faint music, unless it messed with the gain somehow. I hope it isn't some new kind of copy protection...	06:53
jesuslololol	and does it need to be installed on both computers?	06:53
powertool08	sudo apt-get install samba	06:53
powertool08	jesuslololol: ^	06:53
greezmunkey	jesuslololol, or use a jump drive ...	06:53
Jordan_U	jasonmchristos: IRC seems to be something that only dedicated IRC clients can get right, you might want to try xchat	06:53
noir	losha: I know right? It's weird. I'm apt-get purging brasero rignt now and installing k3b for burning needs.	06:53
jesuslololol	the only one i have is my big external drive and idk where the cord is	06:54
powertool08	Geistanon: what do you mean? Lots of people use samba.	06:54
Myxb	during boot i get "can not read /etc/udev/rules.d/z80_user.rules" (a symlink to an empty /etc/udev/user.rules file). anybody know what it is?	06:54
worldhurts	hi	06:54
jesuslololol	okay its going	06:54
Geistanon	powertool08~ the samba package family yes, but samba itself is far more than what he needs	06:54
greezmunkey	jesuslololol, 4gig usb drive = $12.00 :/	06:55
Geistanon	powertool08~ simply having smbfs and say pyNeighborhood is sufficient for the end-user	06:55
noir	losha: aw crap, I forgot...k3b needs kdelibs to run. Hate to install 303MB of packages for one app <_<	06:55
Geistanon	greezmunkey~ lolno	06:55
Geistanon	greezmunkey~ try newegg	06:55
jesuslololol	eh screw it ill just find the cord	06:55
losha	noir: not worth it, just use the cli...	06:55
greezmunkey	Geistanon, yeah, I know, but you get my point.	06:55
kostkon	noir, try nero, its demo, at least	06:56
Geistanon	greezmunkey~ ebay is a good choice as well	06:56
jesuslololol	dl is taking too long	06:56
noir	kostkon: nero has a linux version?	06:57
Concretesledge	Metallica - The Unforgiven	06:57
kostkon	noir, yeap, and a very good one	06:57
Geistanon	greezmunkey~ newegg has your 4g for 8 dollars, but i imagine you can do better than that even on ebay	06:57
noir	kostkon: also I hate demos	06:57
kostkon	noir, lol ok then	06:57
nvme	anyone know what this error means " Failure trying to run: chroot /home/USERNAME/Documents/chromiumos/chroot mount -t proc proc /proc" ?	06:57
noir	kostkon: lol thanks anyway though :D	06:57
kostkon	noir, :)	06:57
Geistanon	noir~ a majority of the work youre looking at can be done through the CLI, you know this yes?	06:58
jasonmchristos	Jordan_U: see pm please	06:58
Jordan_U	!pm \| jasonmchristos	06:58
ubottu	jasonmchristos: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.	06:58
jasonmchristos	Jordan_U: please see pm its off topic	06:58
noir	Geistanon: wait like what work? ripping CDs? Sure. As a rule I've never burned CDs from the command line though.	06:58
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bandreas01	piye....	06:59
oddhyena	hi	06:59
losha	noir: nothing to it: cdrecord -v -tao speed=20 dev=/dev/cdrom -eject -pad driveropts=burnfree -audio *.wav	06:59
jesuslololol	greezmonkey, its a half hour drive to get that 4gig card	07:00
`Immortal`	hi all	07:00
Geistanon	noir~ http://sharkysoft.com/tutorials/linuxtips/cdcommands/	07:00
jesuslololol	so it makes it about 20$	07:00
jesuslololol	:D	07:00
`Immortal`	i need help with Upgrading my Dist from 9.04 to 9.10	07:00
`Immortal`	from a CD	07:00
Sa[i]nT	I am lovin' this upgrade.	07:00
oddhyena	does anyone know of any program other than kino that will output video through the raw1394 camcorder?	07:00
noir	losha, Geistanon: I probably should. I'm a big believer in the commandline :)	07:01
greezmunkey	losha, -tao, is that related to disk at once?	07:01
oddhyena	track at once	07:01
oxeimon	does anyone here play civilization 4?	07:01
oxeimon	or know of a channel for it?	07:01
greezmunkey	okay, thanks	07:01
`Immortal`	shouldn't Ubuntu prompt me to upgrade when i insert the 9.10 disk?	07:01
Geistanon	noir~ it makes life so nice	07:01
greezmunkey	jesuslololol, create a shared folder on the winbox, then use your file system tools to attach to it, much easier!	07:02
noir	sudo umount /dev/loop0	07:02
kostkon	`Immortal`, you can only upgrade using the alternate cd. which one do you have?	07:02
`Immortal`	Hmm	07:02
`Immortal`	not sure kostkon	07:02
kostkon	`Immortal`, the live or the alternate one?	07:02
kostkon	`Immortal`, ok	07:03
`Immortal`	how would i know the diff. ?	07:03
Flannel	`Immortal`: What do you see when you view the disc contents?	07:03
kostkon	`Immortal`, eh, check the cd's label	07:03
Jordan_U	`Immortal`: You can only upgrade via the dvd or the alternet CD	07:03
smok	hello	07:03
Flannel	`Immortal`: Do you see wubi.exe on there?	07:04
`Immortal`	kostkon: it says Ubuntu 9.10 i386	07:04
`Immortal`	yeah wubi is there...	07:04
Flannel	`Immortal`: that's the desktop CD	07:04
`Immortal`	ahh	07:04
kostkon	`Immortal`, then it seems you have the live cd. you can't upgrade with that	07:04
`Immortal`	:/	07:04
`Immortal`	bummer	07:04
`Immortal`	I'm on a limited b/w plan	07:04
jesuslololol	sigh	07:04
jesuslololol	i wish programs	07:05
`Immortal`	and clean install would be painful	07:05
`Immortal`	as i have lot of apps installed	07:05
huston	can someone tell me how to go about changing the appearance of the login screen?	07:05
Flannel	`Immortal`: ping your LoCo, see if they can get you an alternate CD	07:05
jesuslololol	i wish programs would just naturally work for linux :(	07:05
Jordan_U	`Immortal`: Many ISP's have their own servers you can download ubuntu from ( and mirror repositories sometimes also ) without it "counting"	07:06
greezmunkey	is it possible to run the cd integrity checker on a burned .iso without booting it?	07:06
oddhyena	jesuslololol, they do	07:06
jesuslololol	none of that wine crap -.-	07:06
`Immortal`	any idea how many MB an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 takes?	07:06
Jordan_U	!hd5 \| greezmunkey	07:06
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about hd5	07:06
Jordan_U	!md5 \| greezmunkey	07:06
ubottu	greezmunkey: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	07:06
oddhyena	jesuslololol, oh, windows, sorry	07:06
jesuslololol	what?	07:06
oddhyena	I thought you meant linux applications	07:06
powertool08	lol	07:06
jesuslololol	oh no	07:06
`Immortal`	If i Upgrade via web well i get an estimate size?	07:07
jesuslololol	those work perfectly	07:07
`Immortal`	and can i cancel mid-way?	07:07
powertool08	Man, I just wish all my favorite linux programs would just work in windows :P	07:07
greezmunkey	Jordan_U, been all the way down that road last night. I checked the md5sum of a burned cd, consistantly got errors, so I finally decided to boot it. I ran the "checker" and it came back clean???	07:07
jesuslololol	i must say though	07:07
Flannel	`Immortal`: I haven't done it in a while, but I believe so, yes.	07:07
oddhyena	i wonder if it would be a legal issue to implement directX into linux rather than converting it to opengl	07:07
kostkon	`Immortal`, you can a estimated size yes. you can pause the download and continue it some other time.	07:07
jesuslololol	it is faster to transfer files	07:07
jesuslololol	on windows	07:07
kostkon	you can get*	07:08
jesuslololol	though	07:08
`Immortal`	ok i guess thats my best bet	07:08
Flannel	`Immortal`: But /join #ubuntu-in and see if there's someone in your area who might be able to give you an alternate CD	07:08
Jordan_U	greezmunkey: Are you sure checked it against the right md5?	07:08
`Immortal`	ok , thanks for all the help guys	07:08
`Immortal`	Flannel: & kostkon really appreciate it	07:08
huston	immortal it doesn't take much. just update from an alternate install cd/dvd	07:08
Jordan_U	`Immortal`: DVD if possible since all of the other apps you have installed will need to be upgraded too ( the DVD includes main )	07:09
greezmunkey	Jordan_U, like I said, I want all the way down that road. I understand how it works, let's say. I think the issue is that dd is a bit finniky when reading the data into md5sum.	07:09
smok	this is the end	07:10
Jordan_U	greezmunkey: You don't need dd, just run md5sum on the device directly	07:10
greezmunkey	Jordan_U, I am on a laptop, and was bouncing all over compiz at the time. Direct to md5sum, like md5sum /edv/cdrom, been there...	07:10
losha	greezmunkey: I've never found it so. I think you may have hardware issues (flaky reader/disk). On a properly burned disk, I expect to be able to get the correct md5sum no matter how many times I check it..	07:11
huston	so any1 know how to change appearance of login screen?	07:11
jesuslololol	rawr	07:11
Jordan_U	`Immortal`: And you should really check to see if you can get it from your ISP for free ( their biggest cost is often paying other ISPs they route traffic to / from so they really want things to stay within their network )	07:11
jesuslololol	huston, system > administration > login window	07:12
oddhyena	ummm, there's no appearance options there	07:12
`Immortal`	will try that too	07:12
`Immortal`	thanks	07:12
alabd	good day everyone , how chmod symblinks ?	07:13
alabd	sudo chmod 777 /home/alabd/src/pam_keyring-0.0.8/config.guess	07:13
alabd	chmod: cannot operate on dangling symlink `/home/alabd/src/pam_keyring-0.0.8/config.guess'	07:13
jesuslololol	yeah there is	07:13
jesuslololol	in login window	07:13
jesuslololol	check yourself	07:13
oddhyena	in 9.10?	07:13
jesuslololol	oo	07:13
Jordan_U	greezmunkey: What is the md5 you get?	07:13
jesuslololol	idk what version i am	07:13
jesuslololol	i think im still 9.04	07:13
huston	it isn't there in 9.10	07:14
losha	alabd: that symlink doesn't point anywhere, so there's nothing to chmod...	07:15
jayjay__	jesus,for 9.1http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Change_USplash_Boot_Screen, for 9.04 http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-change-appearance-of-login.html	07:15
Jordan_U	greezmunkey: Did you see my last question?	07:17
infidel2	if i want to install a .tar.gz for a php extension, what directory should it be unpacked to?	07:18
happyaron	when I run ssh in a terminal for connecting to sever, the seahorse dialog window doesn't show up, a line asking for password in terminal showed instead. I would like to use seahorse again, how can I achieve this? I am using byobu	07:18
oddhyena	how can I get different cursors for my arrow poinget?	07:18
agusj	is there anyone use wine for game?	07:19
oddhyena	yes	07:19
oddhyena	agusj, I do!!!	07:19
agusj	I want to play game such as PES2009, can i use wine	07:20
greezmunkey	Jordan_U, I can't give you that right now, I'm trying out K3B to see if I liek it better than the other three I dl'd last night :)	07:20
oddhyena	agusj, you can try and see if it works	07:20
oddhyena	i'm installing a game for wine right now actually :P	07:20
agusj	is there any custom configuration for graphic card driver	07:21
greezmunkey	Jordan_U, if you are still here when it's done I'll share it :)	07:21
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Dallas	Is there a way to see why my synaptic is locked up? I've had the little round waiting cursor for about 5 minutes.	07:21
haileywood	exit	07:21
zaoul	what can I put in PS1 that will signify I am root su, or root, su - ?	07:21
agusj	or can I install directX 9c on wine	07:21
zaoul	Dallas: you prob have a dialog window below other windows	07:21
Dallas	zaoul: I can't minimize anything or click anything. System must be locked up	07:22
Dallas	mouse still moves.	07:23
powertool08	Dallas: if the mouse moves its not locked up.	07:23
zaoul	can you alt+tab?	07:23
greezmunkey	Dallas, lower left, click the desktop icon...	07:23
Dallas	nop3	07:23
Dallas	nothing.	07:23
stevr1it	hello. i need help, I have installed karmic and if I use the video option normal everythign is ok, but if it slect the option "no effects" i cannot seee the frames of the fiels, and it si impoossible to use properly nautilus.	07:23
Jordan_U	Dallas: You can probably use ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal, and if nothing else works use sysrq ( do NOT just pull the plug )	07:24
powertool08	Dallas: can you open a terminal vi alt+f2 or through the menus?	07:24
Jordan_U	!sysrq \| Dallas	07:24
ubottu	Dallas: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key	07:24
Dallas	ctrl+alt+f1 nothing or alt+f2	07:25
Dallas	now how the hell do you type that while holding those?	07:26
Dallas	lol	07:26
powertool08	Dallas: Didn't catch your version and I know its not in newer ones, but try ctrl+alt+bksp to restart X	07:26
zamba	i have this very annoying problem with ubuntu karmic, where when i click on a terminal, directly inside it, it's interpreted as a double-click.. so my copy buffer is emptied	07:26
Dallas	crtl+alt+backspace nothing. it's 9.04	07:27
powertool08	Dallas: Its not so hard, I can do it on my laptop and I have to hold the fn key to get printscreen key to work	07:27
greezmunkey	Jordan_U, I have to say K3B has a nice interface, I'll see how well it works...	07:27
Dallas	down+alt+prnt screen REISUB does nothing	07:27
Jordan_U	Dallas: Does your mouse still move?	07:28
Dallas	o it did. holding down the function key with all that sure ass hell restarted it	07:28
Dallas	but, I don't think it shut down.	07:28
Dallas	just bam, it was booting.	07:29
greezmunkey	powertool08 has three thumbs and an extra pinkie... :)	07:29
owen1	i can't access the options in skype on koala. any clues?	07:29
mrec	hi, can someone do me a favour with ubuntu karmic and load the uinput module? with ubuntu 9.04modprobe uinput created /dev/input/uinput but I heard people are complaining about 9.10 that it does not create /dev/input/uinput??	07:29
Dallas	lol. I can't believe I did that. Wish I had a picture I'm sure it looked funny with my hand spread all over this netbook	07:30
powertool08	greezmunkey: ha! Sure would make things easier, or much much harder.	07:30
owen1	anyone got issues with skype v2 for karmic?	07:30
Dallas	So, if it did a hard reboot do I need to do a disk check or something?	07:30
greezmunkey	powertool08, I was envisioning that after I posted it, I got confused jsut thinking about it.	07:30
strongsoul	help \| i updated to ubuntu 9.10 recently, and from then on the behaviour of it when i close my laptop screen changed, it disconnects internet and locks the display	07:30
strongsoul	how can i avoid this /.	07:30
strongsoul	?	07:30
strongsoul	i want it to lock the screen but the programs running behind	07:31
strongsoul	so that when the user opens the screen and logs in again the download that he has setup before learving is sitll progressing or complete	07:31
alabd	Good day everyone , email is like user@live.com and it is hotmail account how to login with it in ubutnu?	07:31
strongsoul	and not stopped because of this behaviour of ubuntu 9.10	07:31
strongsoul	help	07:31
Jordan_U	strongsoul: System > Preferences > Power Management	07:32
DrIshaiMD	im trying out 9.10 for the first time, I loaded the proprietary driver for my broadcom b43 wireless card, however the device doesn't seem to be showing up in my network manager	07:32
Dallas	It's locked up like that twice today now. the mouse will still move, but you can't click on anything and nothing seems to be doing anything.	07:32
owen1	when i try to open 'options' in skype it stuck to my panel but i can't open it. any ideas?	07:32
DrIshaiMD	how do I go about activating my wireless device?	07:32
Jordan_U	DrIshaiMD: Try System > Administration > Hardware Drivers	07:32
greezmunkey	i'm burning an iso with track at once, me thinks I'm gonna have another coaster...	07:32
strongsoul	Jordan_U, There is nothing called prefrences in System menu, i forgot to tell am using xubuntu	07:33
DrIshaiMD	Jordan_U, I did, according to that, the driver is activated and ready for use	07:33
Jordan_U	DrIshaiMD: What driver?	07:33
DrIshaiMD	Broadcom B43 wireless driver	07:33
DrIshaiMD	never mind I got it	07:34
Jordan_U	DrIshaiMD: Is there also another option for the broadcom STA driver? If so try it instead of b43	07:34
DrIshaiMD	I had to unload and reload the b43 module	07:34
alabd	Good day everyone , email is like user@live.com and it is hotmail account how to login it with pidgin ?	07:34
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strongsoul	Jordan_U, i changed the laptop lid closed behaviour to none even then it is locking down	07:36
Besogon	Someone tell me what language it is http://grub.enbug.org/OptionsDeGrub?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29	07:36
strongsoul	Jordan_U, its not a normall lockdown, where i press some key and it asks for password and i can enter after that authentication	07:37
strongsoul	it sleeps	07:37
strongsoul	:(	07:37
strongsoul	so i need to press the power button to get that locked login screen	07:37
DrIshaiMD	wow, ubuntu 9.10 even enabled glx on my onboard ati x200 and I didnt have to DO anything	07:37
SandGorgon	guys.. I'm trying to create a build script for a package - why are man pages separated into directories like man1, man2, man3 ?	07:37
DrIshaiMD	thats amusing	07:37
Jordan_U	SandGorgon: Different sections, for instance stat is both a binary ( man 1 stat ) and a system call ( man 2 stat )	07:39
strongsoul	OMG, this sucks	07:39
DrIshaiMD	wow - great friggin job on 9.10. Truly impressive	07:39
strongsoul	i changed all options to NONE,	07:39
oddhyena	I'm wanting to install windows on my 500gb hard disk but the CD that installs windows only wants to install to the first partition of the hard disk, and I don't want it to, is it possible for me to install windows, copy the windows partition to an external hard disk, and then install ubuntu and put the windows partition back and resize to fit?	07:39
strongsoul	and even now when i close the lid of laptop it goes to suspend	07:39
strongsoul	is this a bug or what ?	07:40
infidel2	what part of ubuntu lets you press winkey+mouse wheel to zoom in on anything in gnome?	07:40
Dallas	strongsoul: are there settings for it in your bios?	07:40
strongsoul	Dallas, no idea	07:40
strongsoul	havent played with it	07:40
Jordan_U	oddhyena: ##windows might be a better channel for that question	07:40
SandGorgon	oddhyena, which version of win ?	07:40
Dallas	Strongsoul: I'd check there	07:41
strongsoul	Dallas, before upgrade this is not how it behaved	07:41
strongsoul	will upgrade change bios setting also ?	07:41
SandGorgon	Jordan_U, I have a source package which has man pages zipped up as something.8.gz - does that mean I have to install it to man8 directory ?	07:41
Dallas	strongoul: I don't think so. I've seen stranger things though ; )	07:41
strongsoul	Dallas, :(	07:42
corey_	where can I download the latest version of Beryl?	07:42
strongsoul	its going to sleep mode when i close my laptop lid	07:42
strongsoul	grrrrr, making me mad	07:42
drink_sti	i know i have amd64 but when i go to install it says i have i686. i tried running in a virtual machine. was that my problem?	07:43
Dallas	Is there a chance that I broke something with that hard reboot? is there a way to check?	07:43
Jordan_U	SandGorgon: If they are sustem administration commands then yes	07:43
DrIshaiMD	strongsoul, I just tried it, my lappy goes to sleep when I close it, but then I couldn't wake it back up	07:43
Jordan_U	SandGorgon: man man	07:43
Dallas	I think 686 is the 64 bit.	07:43
Dallas	amd	07:43
infidel2	drink_sti did you turn on your hardware virtualization in the bios	07:43
strongsoul	DrIshaiMD, what you couldnt wake it back up ! ?	07:43
strongsoul	when i press the power button it wakes up	07:43
strongsoul	and gives me that screen locking authentication box	07:44
strongsoul	which is all fine	07:44
corey_	Whats the current version of beryl? and where can I get it?	07:44
strongsoul	but it shouldn cut down internet	07:44
strongsoul	which makes me go mad	07:44
chiques	how do I find out what id my modem has e.g. ttyxxx?	07:44
oddhyena	is it possible to copy a ubuntu partition to a file and then replace it and make it boot?	07:44
Dallas	strongsoul: that's odd. this netbook I'm working on doesn't do anything when I close the lid	07:44
drink_sti	infidel2: no i didnot.	07:44
drink_sti	will try and brb	07:45
strongsoul	Dallas, is it something to do with XFCE ?	07:45
chelz	anyone know what's up with http://packages.ubuntu.com ?	07:45
alabd	can anyone login with hotmail account now as messenger with pidgin ?	07:45
strongsoul	this SUCKSSSSSSS	07:46
strongsoul	alabd, nope error	07:46
Dallas	strongsoul: I really don't know alot about linux. I just know that some laptops have power saving function menu's in the bios. and if you've already changed the settings in OS that would be the next place I'd check.	07:46
Madpilot	strongsoul, have you tried #xubuntu for xfce issues?	07:46
corey_	no one knows?	07:46
drink_sti	infidel2: it says enable PEA/nx. is that what i want?	07:46
ActionParsnip	corey_: sup?	07:47
Madpilot	corey, isn't beryl now merged back into compiz?	07:47
alabd	strongsoul: thanks so you have problem also with pidgin would you tell have you set useranem with @hotmail.com or not ?	07:47
ActionParsnip	Madpilot: it is	07:47
corey_	sorry im newish to linux lol, i have no idea.. whats compiz?	07:48
oddhyena	deliciously malicious	07:48
ActionParsnip	corey_: compiz gives yuo the cube desktop and wobbly windows that everyonegets excited about the first time they see it	07:48
corey_	lol	07:48
corey_	yeah I just thought it looked cool, id imagine it wouldnt be as cool after the first few times lol	07:49
ActionParsnip	alabd: my username for msn in carrier (a fork of pidgin) doesnt have the domain of my email address on (doesn't have @googlemail.com) only my username	07:49
ActionParsnip	corey_: some people find functionality, personally I got real sick of it real quick and went back to LXDE	07:49
Madpilot	corey_, if you're already running Ubuntu, all the recent releases are using compiz by default, but have the burning windows and other really shiny stuff disabled (thankfully...)	07:50
alabd	ActionParsnip: MSN and @googlemail.com	07:50
corey_	hmm, so if I just installed ubuntu 9.10 then i already have compiz?	07:50
ActionParsnip	alabd: yeah, i enabled my account as an msn passport	07:50
brianherman	how do i get my window menu back on ubuntu	07:51
brianherman	i cant close windows	07:51
Madpilot	corey_, you do. Right-click on the desktop, choose "Change Background" then look at the Visual Effects tab	07:51
grendal-prime	grrrr this is making me crazy. I want glest on my dell mini. The glest-data package is availale but no glest package?	07:51
alabd	ActionParsnip: my humble email is USER@live.com strongsoul	07:51
ActionParsnip	alabd: tbh, it takes seconds to try one way, then the other	07:51
corey_	okay thanks. i appreacite it	07:51
corey_	appreciate*	07:51
Madpilot	ubottu, compiz \| corey_	07:52
ActionParsnip	brianherman: you mean the list of windows running and minimised?	07:52
ubottu	corey_: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz	07:52
wingzero	hi all	07:52
brianherman	ActionParsnip: no the window decorations	07:52
ActionParsnip	corey_: you must have 3d accelleration to get it running too	07:52
brianherman	actionparsnip: like the close button on every window	07:52
ActionParsnip	brianherman: you lost them when you started compiz right	07:52
corey_	yeah, it works	07:53
DrIshaiMD	ok so if the radeon driver WORKS for my system, will I get better performance if I try out the proprietary ATI driver?	07:53
brianherman	ActionParsnip: well i wanted to see what the ubuntu netbook remix xwas like	07:53
wingzero	question, i just installed ubuntu on my new computer but i mounted my 2nd hd to a wron location, how do i change the location? i mounted it to /home/video, while it sould have been /home/username/video	07:53
brianherman	actionparsnip: and i apt-get the package	07:53
DrIshaiMD	does ATI even MAKE a proprietary linux driver anymore?	07:53
dayo	how do i lock the account of a user on an nfs server? i'm using openldap to authenticate them.	07:53
drink_sti	i cant get ubuntu to run in a vm.	07:53
ActionParsnip	brianherman: run ccsm theres a setting in there for windows decorators, or you can run emerald if you want to gloss them up	07:53
alabd	strongsoul: is your email this kind USER@live.com ?	07:53
strongsoul	alabd, hotmail.com	07:54
ActionParsnip	brianherman: i installed that the other day and emerald was installed (weird), try pressing alt+f2 and running emerald --replace	07:54
drink_sti	it now tells me fatal error no mounted device... what the heck am i doing wrong?	07:54
brianherman	actionparsnip: i ddint install emerald	07:54
ActionParsnip	brianherman: i believe its part of UNR	07:54
brianherman	ohok	07:55
wingzero	question, i just installed ubuntu on my new computer but i mounted my 2nd hd to a wron location, how do i change the location? i mounted it to /home/video, while it sould have been /home/username/video	07:55
suigeneris	I just realized that videos on facebook don't play to their full length when on ubuntu. anyone can tell me how I can fix that?	07:55
ActionParsnip	brianherman: you should also check in ccsm as there is a setting there for windows decorators too	07:55
Dallas	Is there a way to turn increase volume besides the obvious?	07:55
alabd	ActionParsnip: what is your msn server address ?	07:56
powertool08	Dallas: What's the obvious? alsamixer?	07:56
Dallas	the volume slider	07:57
manitu	hi, got a laptop with ubuntu, if i start there is the normal loading screen and then i come to textmode and there is written ata1.00: status: { DRDY } with some other messages of ata1.00 over and over again	07:57
Dallas	does alsamixer adjust the system volume?	07:57
powertool08	Dallas: try alsamixer in a terminal	07:57
manitu	what could it be? read that it can be the harddisk, but how it boots that far then?	07:57
Madpilot	Dallas, right-click on the volume applet, choose Sound Prefs, and have a look thru the tabs there	07:57
powertool08	Dallas: It adjust lots of aspects, main and pcm are the typical ones, but you can adjust bass/treble, fade/balance	07:58
ActionParsnip	alabd: messenger.hotmail.com	07:58
ActionParsnip	alabd: sorry, its FULL email address in the username	07:58
switchgirl	anyone in Cockermouth, UK?	07:58
ActionParsnip	switchgirl: Leeds, UK here	07:58
drink_sti	can i install this on a virtual machine? or do i just run option 1?	07:59
switchgirl	ActionParsnip, you ok? floods are REALLY bad in the lake district	07:59
ActionParsnip	switchgirl: yeah its een crazy, but a little offtopic for here	07:59
alabd	anyone can login with hotmail/live account as messenger ?	07:59
Dallas	k. So it's all the way up in alsamixer	08:00
drink_sti	can i install this on a virtual machine? or do i just run option 1?	08:00
Dallas	and in prefs it just shows what menus you can enable if you click on the icon	08:00
quentusrex	How do I test a cron script?	08:00
quentusrex	it doesn't seem to be running	08:00
gheddy_zarc	when trying to enable sharing of folders by installing the "sharing" software packages to share I get the error "unable to install due to broken packages" ? using 9.04 any ideas to try ? do I neeed to go 9.10 ?	08:00
quentusrex	it script runs as roon just fine, but it doesn't seem to work from cron	08:00
brianherman	actionparsnip: that didnt work	08:01
brianherman	actionparsnip: ill just use kde	08:01
ActionParsnip	brianherman: i'd ask in #compiz if folks are awake, its a compiz problem (no suprises there)	08:01
manitu	could someone please help me? my ubuntu laptop does not start, because of ata1.00: status: { DRDY }	08:02
powertool08	manitu: Maybe a fsck would fix it (I don't know for sure)	08:04
nikre	i want to reach the X interface of a remote server, when I do startx, I get the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/323115/	08:05
nikre	anything I can do_	08:05
nikre	?	08:05
ActionParsnip	manitu: make sure the HDD connectors are in good and solid, you could boot with some boot options to maybe get around it. I'd download the drive manufacturers tool to test the disk. Did you MD5 test the ISO you burned to make the CD?	08:05
powertool08	nikre: Follow the directions you're given. Run ps aux \| grep xorg (tells you if X is running) and paste the output.	08:07
ActionParsnip	nikre: your system already has an X server running, you will need to make a virtual X server to run off of somehow (ive heard of it done buy i've not done it)	08:07
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nikre	powertool08 there's nothing returned from ps command	08:08
nikre	(only itself)	08:08
powertool08	nikre: Also, it might be easier to vnc or something unless you absolutely need the X server to be remote.	08:08
gheddy_zarc	anyone know the server for !mint irc ?	08:08
manitu	ActionParsnip, ubuntu is installed and boots from the hdd by grub.. and after a time it stopped working and i geht the DRDY ERR and a ata1.00 error: { UNC }	08:08
manitu	*get	08:08
haddock	Hey, Im wondering is there any package for SLiM (simple login manager) in Ubuntu?	08:08
greezmunkey	when I'm running md5sum /dev/cdrom , should I see output as it goes through the disk?	08:08
TeamColtra	Okay I have been googling and racking my brain on this all day... It is finally time to ask for assistance. My machine fails to boot (kernal panic) and I am trying to fix it... I have put the alt install disk in to do the fix mode... but once I drop into shell... I am lost at what I should do	08:09
ActionParsnip	manitu: i see, try some boot options and definately check the drive. It doesnt sound healthy. Also check the data/power connectors to the drive are in good	08:09
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TeamColtra	I tried the FSCK but there seems to be no /dev/discs option	08:09
greezmunkey	All I get back is: md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error	08:09
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: no, it only outputs when done	08:09
SzArAk	hi	08:09
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: you dont really md5 a cd like that, are you checking a burned ubuntu disk?	08:09
powertool08	nikre: check to see if the /tmp/.X0-lock is there, if so, rm /temp/.X0-lock, try again.	08:09
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, yes, please advise!	08:10
manitu	ActionParsnip, problem is, that it is a notebook.. does i need to start from a live cd or what i should do?	08:10
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: boot to the CD, select language then read the screen, there is an option to verify the CD there	08:10
SzArAk	how can i verify the amount of ram on my graphics card? lspci shows 64MB wich seems way to much. i expected to have 2, or 8MB. here is the output of lspci -vv http://wklej.org/id/210748/	08:10
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poyntz	How do you install "transkode" on Ubuntu Karmic Koala. I'm getting this error when I try to install it from source: "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed"	08:10
ActionParsnip	manitu: connectors should be ok then, try bootoptions and manufacturers test	08:11
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, I gotcha on that...Is there any way to run that w/o booting the CD rom?	08:11
drink_sti	i get this "FATAL: no bootable medium found. system halted" any body have anything on this problem?	08:11
poyntz	is there are prefix you could give me that would do the trick? can I disable headers? what should I do?	08:11
nikre	powertool08 I get this error when trying to run vnc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/323118/	08:11
nikre	any idea?	08:11
powertool08	poyntz: You are probably missing a ton of KDE libraries/dependencies since you are running Ubuntu, not Kubuntu.	08:12
poyntz	powertool08: I figured that because it's a script for Amarok, which works fine on Ubuntu, that it would work as well :/	08:13
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: the bootoptions can e added to grub using the e button to edit the entry for this boot only	08:13
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: sorry, crossed wires	08:13
powertool08	nikre: Did you remove the lock file and successfully start X?	08:13
poyntz	powertool08: also, my comp is 4 years old. Not sure if it's tailored to the KDE environment	08:13
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: no, you need to boot to the CD to run the tool	08:13
DrIshaiMD	where is xorg.conf ?!??!	08:13
userfriendly	g'day	08:13
DrIshaiMD	or at least it's equivalent in 9.10	08:13
powertool08	poyntz: KDE is much older than your computer :)	08:13
userfriendly	/etc/X11	08:13
ActionParsnip	DrIshaiMD: karmic doesnt have one by default, if you add one it will be used	08:13
aperson	DrIshaiMD, /etc/X11/xorg.conf	08:14
nikre	powertool08, sudo ls /tmp/lock > ls: cannot access /tmp/lock: No such file or directory	08:14
poyntz	powertool08: I don't doubt that. but the latest versions would run slow, no?	08:14
drink_sti	i get this "FATAL: no bootable medium found. system halted" any body have anything on this problem?	08:14
poyntz	powertool08: or at least, slower than gnome	08:14
DrIshaiMD	how does it get its settings by default?	08:14
ActionParsnip	drink_sti: did you md5 test the image?	08:14
userfriendly	speaking of xorg.conf, why does the desktop on my third monitor extend to 1680x1680 when it's supposed to be 1680x1050...?	08:14
drink_sti	i got it right from the ubuntu dite	08:15
drink_sti	*site	08:15
ActionParsnip	DrIshaiMD: it uses HAL and other autodetect things to detect whats going on, if it gets it wrong you will need an xorg.conf file to tell it	08:15
timewriter	hi	08:15
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, that's cool. I spent way too much time on that md5sum stuff last night getting errors, only to boot the CD, which verified fine!	08:15
powertool08	poyntz: KDE4, maybe, I thought KDE 3.5 was pretty good and I'm on a single core Athlon XP 2800+. I use XFCE and its good enough.	08:15
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, I apprieciate you jumping in!	08:15
greezmunkey	s/ni/in	08:15
ActionParsnip	drink_sti: means nothing, the data can be garbaged in transit from server to your PC, doesnt matter where its from, so long as the MD5 matches	08:15
SzArAk	how can i verify the amount of ram on my graphics card? lspci shows 64MB wich seems way to much. i expected to have 2, or 8MB. here is the output of lspci -vv http://wklej.org/id/210748/	08:15
DrIshaiMD	how would i go about changing which module to use without an xorg.conf? I want to try out fglrx	08:15
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: cool, thats what counts	08:15
ActionParsnip	DrIshaiMD: if you install it, it will be used	08:16
poyntz	powertool08: I'm dual-booting xfce/gnome. never really had the guts to use kde :P. but the thing is, half these scripts demand it	08:16
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, exactly...now I have 5 or 6 good install disks too!	08:16
powertool08	nikre: try without the *, use the file given in the previous error statement.	08:16
drink_sti	actionparsnip: it loaded fine then told me something about my processor not being amd64 then i reload it and it tells me no bootable medium.	08:16
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: groovy, sounds like your hardware needs extra kernel options or is failing	08:16
aperson	does anyone else experience this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/483456	08:17
ActionParsnip	drink_sti: you cant load a 64bit system on a 32bit cpu, if you are using vm ware and your system doesnt have the right functionality, you cannot run 64bit guets	08:17
DrIshaiMD	ok, is there a new key combination to kill X11? Ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't seem to work anymore	08:17
ActionParsnip	*guests	08:17
poyntz	powertool08: my problem is more the fact that I can't transfer flac files to my iPod (through research I've learned that iPod's don't except flac files). If I want to transfer files over, I need some sort of transcoder :/	08:17
ActionParsnip	DrIshaiMD: alt + k + printscreen	08:17
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, could be. This desktop was installed onto a WinXP install, it's a wubi thing.	08:17
drink_sti	actionparsnip: it says something about the kernel not being correct. and my system is an amd 64	08:17
powertool08	poyntz: I'd look into mencoder	08:17
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ActionParsnip	drink_sti: sounds like a bad disk to me, did you run the CD verifier?	08:18
drink_sti	i am using a virtual disk	08:18
TeamColtra	My machine fails to boot (kernal panic) and I am trying to fix it... I have put the alt install disk in to do the fix mode... but once I drop into shell... I am lost at what I should do	08:18
TeamColtra	I tried the FSCK but there seems to be no /dev/discs option	08:18
timewriter	anyone uses 9.10 ?	08:18
poyntz	powertool08: I wouldn't have a clue how to use that (it runs through bash, yeah?). also does it allow me to transcode multiple files at once?	08:19
aperson	timewriter, give this is the ubuntu support channel, it's safe to assume ues	08:19
DrIshaiMD	hmph im on a laptop, that doesn't appear to work	08:19
aperson	yes*	08:19
hassanakevazir	poyntz, take a look at rockbox, if your ipod is supported, it can playback anything, IIRC also flac	08:19
timewriter	aperson , thanks , should i upgrade from LTS ?	08:19
ActionParsnip	drink_sti: then I recommend you MD5 test the ISO, seems your CPU doesnt support virtualisation with 64bit guests so you will need to check that (you may have to enable an option in your BIOS) or you will have to run 32bit guests	08:19
poyntz	hassanakevazir: its an iPod shuffle, if that means anything	08:19
powertool08	poyntz: Yes its command line, but may have a gui frontend available, and I'm sure its not too difficult if you find a good guide with examples on google.	08:19
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aperson	timewriter, personally, I did a clean install and restored my backups	08:19
timewriter	i mean , install the new version	08:20
timewriter	clean install ofc	08:20
ActionParsnip	drink_sti: not all 64bit CPUs will allow 64bit guest virtualisation	08:20
CppIsWeird	i just plugged in an sata card and i dont see the drives connected to it at all, not even in dmesg. how do i see if the card is being picked up?	08:20
poyntz	powertool08: just it's going to take me a while to transcode individual files one at a time :P	08:20
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, I see that you are getting slammed right now, but during the install does it scann hardware, and offer appropriate drivers, settings, etc. OR, should I plan to make menuconfig after I'm done?	08:20
drink_sti	i am using sun virtualbox. does that have anything to do with it?	08:20
powertool08	poyntz: So start multiple instances?	08:20
poyntz	powertool08: especially say if there's about 4 GB of media	08:20
greezmunkey	s/scann/scan	08:20
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: most is detected for you, you may need extra boot options, or to add modules in the LiveCD to get things rolling	08:21
hassanakevazir	poyntz, ah, no then, it won't be able to playback flac	08:21
aperson	timewriter, I like 9.10 if that counts for anything	08:21
timewriter	thanks	08:21
powertool08	poyntz: GNU/screen would be nice for checking in on them without leaving a bunch of windows open.	08:21
timewriter	im gonna grab it then	08:21
poyntz	powertool08: then the cpu would unsafely be randomly allocating process time, no? what if the program isn't designed to handle these random shuffles. especially with so much processing power going toward transcoding such a high number of files?	08:22
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: but you can use wubi if you like. It does run. I personally dislike the idea so avoid it	08:22
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, I think it will be fine, I have another HDD to do a dry run on for this laptop, the worst that'll happen is I'll have to put this HDD back in!	08:22
TeamColtra	Let me ask this way... is there a way to just force a FSCK of the entire system?	08:22
DrIshaiMD	ActionParsnip, alt+k+printscrn doesnt work, just asks me to cave screenshot	08:22
powertool08	poyntz: I dunno, I don't transcode files so I couldn't say for sure.	08:22
poyntz	powertool08: no worries. thanks anyhow. i'll keep it on my mind	08:23
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ActionParsnip	DrIshaiMD: press the printscreen last	08:23
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, I agree, I plan to dump it and reformat/reinstall I just wanted to make it as easy as possible. I have up to date aptoncd's burned and tested, and backed up my home dir as well.	08:23
DrIshaiMD	action, I did!	08:23
ActionParsnip	greezmunkey: nice, if you make a seperate partition for home you will have fewer isses with reinstall	08:23
greezmunkey	ActionParsnip, I absolutely agree, and plan to do so!	08:24
ActionParsnip	DrIshaiMD: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html	08:24
ActionParsnip	DrIshaiMD: simple websearch and bam, useful guie	08:25
powertool08	DrIshaiMD: if you are on a laptop you may need to push <Fn> to get the printscreen key to work right.	08:25
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DrIshaiMD	ActionParsnip, thanks!	08:25
poyntz	i'm amazed so many apps seem to be available for KDE but not gnome... what's with that?	08:25
powertool08	poyntz: KDE > gnome :D	08:26
DrIshaiMD	ooooh looks like fglrx is a no go	08:26
DrIshaiMD	thats a bummer	08:26
CppIsWeird	i just plugged in an sata card and i dont see the drives connected to it at all, not even in dmesg. how do i see if the card is being picked up?	08:26
poyntz	powertool08: so why are you using xfce and gnome then? :P	08:26
powertool08	poyntz: I don't use gnome. I use xfce because I don't like KDE4 and 3.5 is outdated now.	08:27
ActionParsnip	CppIsWeird: sudo fdisk -l will show you the drives and partitions	08:27
oddhyena	i don't like kde	08:27
oddhyena	it's too konfusing	08:27
greezmunkey	laggg	08:27
poyntz	powertool08: ahh k. so you prefer both xfce and kde to gnome?	08:27
CppIsWeird	poyntz, thats how i know i don't see the drives. ;)	08:27
DrIshaiMD	ok all thanks for your help	08:28
ActionParsnip	CppIsWeird: if you dont see any, run: dmesg \| less to see whats detected at bootup, you may need to run: lspci to see what the card is, you may need extra packages or even compile a kernel module for the card to work	08:28
TeamColtra	Okay I tried rebooting it again... the first error is /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries /lib/libc.so.6: invalid ELF header ten Failure: apArmor profiles filaed to load then /sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libpthread.so0: invalid ELF header then goes into Kernal Panic	08:28
poyntz	CppIsWeird: you'll have to explain that one to me	08:28
powertool08	poyntz: Yes, although I may start to like gnome more since I don't like KDE4. I also have used LXDE and Enlightenment. XFCE is the best blend though.	08:28
powertool08	poyntz: I don't like all the bloat that comes with KDE/gnome, yet I usually still end up with the libraries due to a few favorite programs which require them.	08:29
poyntz	powertool08: xubuntu I'm guessing? I've never tried xubuntu, but DreamLinux is nice. I've stopped using it temporarily because I have to issue the command startx every time I want to go from the console to the GUI :/	08:29
poyntz	powertool08: Amarok seems like an awesome player. Couldn't go back to Mplayer now I'm enjoying it so much :P	08:30
powertool08	poyntz: I'm actually on Sidux now, its based on Debian Sid.	08:30
ActionParsnip	poyntz: you can install xubuntu-desktop or xfce4 and you will get the equivelant of xubuntu	08:30
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poyntz	ActionParsnip: same with KDE?	08:30
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I don't see the point tho, because I've already got once xfce OS	08:31
CppIsWeird	ActionParsnip: i don't even see the card in lspci, does this mean its dead or something?	08:31
powertool08	poyntz: I use mpd as my music player, and ncmpc as the client front end. I think sonata is a gui front end for it.	08:31
poyntz	ActionParsnip: and I like gnome :P	08:31
ActionParsnip	poyntz: not sure on the base kde package but you can install kubuntu-desktop and it will be the same	08:31
dryg	huzzah for gnome	08:31
ActionParsnip	CppIsWeird: read dmesg \| less through, see what it says	08:31
Trezker	the only thing I don't like about gnome is the memory leaking in gnome-panel	08:31
ActionParsnip	poyntz: i like LXDE	08:31
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I'm a little lost. If it's that easy, why is Kubuntu Karmic Koala not out yet?	08:31
ActionParsnip	poyntz: it is: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release	08:32
poyntz	lol. whoops :P	08:32
powertool08	poyntz: The internets are offended by its initials :P	08:32
ActionParsnip	poyntz: i use ulite, then throw lxde on it. Works great	08:33
powertool08	ActionParsnip: What is ulite?	08:33
ActionParsnip	powertool08: installs a very minimal system, check it out	08:33
karbo	what the f is up with all these file transfers coming from the ubuntu channels lately?	08:33
manitu	SultansElephant, ??????	08:33
Trezker	karbo, script kiddies	08:33
poyntz	ActionParsnip powertool08 : I'm guessing these players have iPod support, allow playlists, have nice GUI front ends, do the prev/next track, pause, stop, etc.	08:33
powertool08	ActionParsnip: Is it an Ubuntu specific thing?	08:34
ActionParsnip	poyntz: no idea, ipods are garbage	08:34
oddhyena	manitu, did you get something from SultansElephant too?	08:34
* powertool08 Doesn't have an ipod		08:34
karbo	well can someone gimme their address so I can go and become their new daddy?	08:34
ActionParsnip	powertool08: its an ubuntu based thing	08:34
karbo	bloddy morons	08:34
poyntz	ActionParsnip: it's the only media player I have tho, and i cbfed buying another when it works fine :P	08:34
ActionParsnip	karbo: check the IP of the connection ;)	08:34
timewriter	i like gnomes too	08:34
timewriter	and dwarves	08:34
ubuntujenkins	oddhyena i go it to	08:34
oddhyena	ubuntujenkins, what?	08:35
poyntz	ActionParsnip: but yeh, I try to pass on Mac's and their proprietory lock-ins	08:35
ActionParsnip	poyntz: theres gtkpod, bansee and amarok which support ipod. I'm sure others will too.	08:35
ActionParsnip	!ipod \| poyntz	08:35
ubottu	poyntz: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod	08:35
powertool08	ActionParsnip: I love archlinux's net install. It gives you a minimal install that is completely up to date because it grabs all the files from repo's instead of the cd. Is it similar to that?	08:35
nikre	powertool08, this is the error after I remove /tmp/X.. lock file. http://pastebin.com/m655be828	08:35
manitu	oddhyena, dcc chat	08:35
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I'm using Amarok	08:35
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I didn't like gtkpod	08:35
ActionParsnip	poyntz: should do it for you	08:35
ubuntujenkins	the thing from sultanselephant didn't except it though	08:35
poyntz	ActionParsnip: the only annoying thing about it is that it doesn't transcode. actually there's more wrong with it than that, but that's a start	08:36
poyntz	ActionParsnip: and I have flac files which wont play on iPod	08:36
ActionParsnip	powertool08: pretty much, you install ulite from CD, then they have provided a script to set things up nice, you can then install whatever desktop you like, I use LXDE because its small	08:36
poyntz	ActionParsnip: what's kubuntu weight wise?	08:37
lightpriest	ActionParsnip: you should get extra "ubuntu stars", I always see you here - helping ppl ;)	08:37
powertool08	ActionParsnip: Sounds great, I'll have to remember it next time I install Ubuntu.	08:37
poyntz	ActionParsnip: sorry, i mean kubuntu-desktop	08:37
agusj	how to configure joystick	08:37
ActionParsnip	poyntz: you have a device which is made to primarilty only talk to itunes which only runs on windows or mac so you are pretty screwed	08:37
ActionParsnip	poyntz: some people even run a virtualbox with windows because their ipods suck so bad	08:37
lightpriest	heh	08:37
ActionParsnip	lightpriest: thanks :)	08:37
lightpriest	a friend of mine had no choice (he has windows on a virtualbox for his iphone)	08:38
nmudgal	i use squid proxy server & has put proxy in the appropriate file but still error http://fpaste.org/w1S0/	08:38
poyntz	ActionParsnip: yeh. i think it gets worse with the newer versions. i deliverately picked the shuffle to give the linux engineers time to work it out	08:38
kwork	ActionParsnip, you can change the software on ipod	08:38
SultansElephant	my bad	08:38
kwork	ActionParsnip, and by that get it linux compatible	08:38
ActionParsnip	!rockbox \| kwork	08:38
ubottu	kwork: rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!	08:38
SultansElephant	it was my irc client	08:38
oddhyena	the iphone is it's own OS with it's own filesystem, it has a server that itunes talks to	08:38
fra	!list	08:38
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	08:38
nmudgal	i use squid proxy server & has put proxy in the appropriate file but still error http://fpaste.org/w1S0/	08:38
SultansElephant	!BitchX	08:38
ubottu	bitchx (also known as ircii-pana) was dropped from Debian and subsequently Ubuntu (see: http://dy.fi/afb). Consider using irssi or weechat instead.	08:38
Raz_	whats up everyone	08:38
kwork	ActionParsnip, sadly my model doesnot support rockbox :(	08:38
poyntz	kwork: have you used it? what's it like?	08:39
lightpriest	poyntz: i bought a sansa clip instead of the shuffle, sandisk even has a linux support forum for that	08:39
powertool08	nikre: Maybe this is a solution? http://www.mail-archive.com/vnc-list@realvnc.com/msg11989.html	08:39
nmudgal	Raz_: i use squid proxy server & has put proxy in the appropriate file but still error http://fpaste.org/w1S0/	08:39
SultansElephant	iknonia: still?	08:39
ActionParsnip	kwork: thats all i know dude	08:39
kwork	poyntz, my friend has it, its working nothing else i know to say about it	08:39
lightpriest	nmudgal: you're trying to "install update"	08:39
nmudgal	lightpriest: yeah i am trying to do that	08:39
lightpriest	nmudgal: you're trying to "install update", and as apt-get says... there's no such package. you should "sudo apt-get update"	08:40
poyntz	kwork: see that could mean that it plays mp3... lol. i'll try to see what i can do with apple's crappy ipod firmware :P	08:40
kwork	poyntz, yeah it plays mp3, not sure about anything else :P	08:40
lightpriest	nmudgal: update and install are both actions, and the first parameter of apt-get is an action	08:40
handjob	I NEED SOME HELP. I've edited /etc/group and added another user to "admin" it didn't worked but the worst part is that the old user lost ther priviliges of sudo and as far as i remeber the rood is turned off by default. Am i fucked for good ?	08:40
ActionParsnip	poyntz: if you hit it with a hammer it makes it fatser, hit it really hard HAHAHAHAHA (DONT, joke)	08:40
userfriendly	waaaaah... 9.10 upgrade overwrote my hosts file >.<	08:40
ActionParsnip	userfriendly: restore from backup	08:40
nmudgal	lightpriest: ok man! thnxs	08:40
poyntz	just looking at the KDE desktop environment tho. it looks like a waste of space... and resources...	08:40
userfriendly	backup... what is this backup you speak of...	08:41
SultansElephant	what's so hard about doing a full reinstall	08:41
kwork	poyntz, go for flux of xfce if you want lightweight	08:41
poyntz	ActionParsnip: when it starts to screw up I might just do that ;)	08:41
kwork	flux or xfce	08:41
powertool08	handjob: try 'sudo su -' it may give you a root shell.	08:41
ActionParsnip	userfriendly: the backup you made, if the file is important yuo will have made a backup	08:41
lightpriest	handjob: if you used gedit to edit the file, gedit keeps a "filename"~ backup file after you save	08:41
userfriendly	;)	08:41
poyntz	ActionParsnip: of course, providing that I no longer have warranty	08:41
userfriendly	point taken	08:41
SultansElephant	Calling KDE or GNOME 'bloated' is just elitist nerdiness unless you're still clutching on to some ancient pc	08:41
lstarnes	handjob: sudo -i is preferred over sudo su -	08:41
ActionParsnip	kwork: flux has amazing hotkey configs	08:41
nmudgal	lightpriest: it's done such an idiocy !!	08:41
kwork	ActionParsnip, when i was gentoo freak, i always had flux :P	08:41
lightpriest	nmudgal: what?	08:41
SultansElephant	what about puppy	08:42
SultansElephant	that thing is amazing	08:42
handjob	"user is not in the sudoers..."	08:42
ActionParsnip	kwork: i used to run it, now i'm LXDE	08:42
poyntz	kwork: I already have DreamLinux xfce, which is very quick. the only reason I'm contemplating KDE is because many apps require it	08:42
SultansElephant	you mean the ones that start with k	08:42
ikonia	SultansElephant: do you have an ubuntu support discussion	08:42
CyberJack77	I recently installed 9.10 and now 2 of my harddisks are giving "exception Emask frozen" and "hard resetting link" errors/warnings. Does anybody know how to solve this? I never got this messages under 8.10. dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/323125/	08:42
nmudgal	lightpriest: done man i just forget that !!	08:42
lightpriest	handjob: if you didn't set a root password (and you are not in the sudoers file) you have to boot as single user (or use a liveCD)	08:43
* poyntz thinks that everyone should be aware that linux is never forward compatible LOL		08:43
handjob	lightpriest, OF course! Thank You kind Sir!	08:43
blacksun7	anyone very familiar with bash scripting here that could help me out with a renaming script?	08:43
powertool08	poyntz: Sure it is, just only in the areas in which linux developers are interested.	08:43
poyntz	...maybe partially forward compatible. and by that, I mean things will break	08:43
lightpriest	handjob: either the sudoers file, admin group, something in the middle got screwed. you won't be able to login as root from a normal user if you don't have a root password	08:44
ActionParsnip	blacksun7: i'd ask in #bash	08:44
cprakash	I am getting an 'Uncorrectable data error or media is right protected' for 6 blocks on the hard disk when running dell diagnostics	08:44
ActionParsnip	poyntz: depeds what you buy and config	08:44
blacksun7	thanks ActionParsnip	08:44
cprakash	Does this mean I have to replace the hard disk as it is corrput ?	08:44
poyntz	powertool08: you're probably right. but I've lost the desktop a few times, due to code incompatibilities	08:44
handjob	lightpriest, Ah btw any idea why this occured when i added user to admin group using vim (firstuser:nextuser)?	08:44
cprakash	Is it possible to fix it with some cammand on ubuntu ?	08:44
poyntz	ActionParsnip: not much bought. Running pretty much all off open source software	08:44
cprakash	I ran fsck at boot time as well as chkdsk of windows at boot	08:44
ActionParsnip	cprakash: boot to live CD and fsck the disk	08:44
poyntz	ActionParsnip: that's aside from games.	08:45
ActionParsnip	poyntz: some games run amazingly	08:45
cprakash	ok	08:45
ActionParsnip	poyntz: some devs even make linux installers for their games	08:45
cprakash	thanks ActionParsnip	08:45
b0nn	hrm, I'm having wifi problems, anyone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting?	08:46
poyntz	ActionParsnip: now that is something I'd love to see. I'd also like to see more gnome apps and less wine ones	08:46
lightpriest	handjob: in /etc/group file, : is an option delimiter and "," is a list delimiter. i.e. you should have done admin:XX:XX:user1,user2	08:46
poyntz	ActionParsnip: for instance, I have to use wine to highlight in PDF files	08:46
handjob	lightpriest, ah thank You again.	08:46
ActionParsnip	poyntz: as an example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Doom3	08:46
ActionParsnip	poyntz: you should research before ranting	08:46
lightpriest	handjob: usually in linux configuration files a comma is a list delimiter	08:47
powertool08	poyntz: Sauerbraten is another fps linux game.	08:47
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I wasn't ranting about games :P. I was ranting about how things break in upgrades :P	08:47
ActionParsnip	poyntz: log bugs when they do, they will be attended	08:47
poyntz	ActionParsnip: all my games have continued to work through every dist upgrade	08:47
morticia_	hi	08:47
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morticia_	how do I close the firefox process? when it's closed but still running	08:47
poyntz	ActionParsnip: when I upgraded to karmic, i only lost my ability to use the console/gnome desktop	08:48
b0nn	morticia_: killall firefox	08:48
ActionParsnip	poyntz: powertool08: penumbra is an awesome linux native game, its paid for but the demo is killer	08:48
ActionParsnip	poyntz: did you log a bug?	08:48
poyntz	ActionParsnip: thankfully I was dual booting with DreamLinux, so I could fix it from that OS	08:48
Tartaros	where can I set what's the title of an xterm window/tab ?	08:48
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I only generally log bugs if it does the log locating, etc for me. I have never any idea which package runs what and what outputs to attach to bug reports	08:49
poyntz	ActionParsnip: generally they close my bug reports due to a lack of information	08:49
morticia_	b0nn: thanks	08:49
ActionParsnip	poyntz: it will be moved if its the wrong package, logging bugs makes things work better	08:49
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poyntz	ActionParsnip: yeh. figures. sometimes i even wish i could help. but my knowledge of linux is very limited, as is my knowledge of C++, python, etc.	08:50
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poyntz	ActionParsnip: that doesn't mean I couldn't do it. I know the concepts and I could code crappy little programs that aren't of any use to anyone	08:51
ActionParsnip	poyntz: its not expected to e, ubuntu is made for new users to linux	08:51
jove	hello, does anyone know how to get "traceroute" ?	08:51
ActionParsnip	poyntz: if stuff is in error, report it, a child can do that	08:51
ActionParsnip	jove: sudo apt-get install traceroute	08:51
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I meant for me to contribute. you'd have to know the linux OS like the back of your hand, no?	08:51
anarcap	HI all. Question about video playback on VLC, SMPlayer, etc. I have a DVD of the movie Cars and opened it up in a few movie players on Ubuntu 9.10 and they all start up in Full Screen (standard 4:3) and not widescreen. I know that the DVD is widescreen, and I can't figure out how to get it to play in widescreen	08:52
Hans_Henrik	first time this happens, i opened a shell on my server, and it spammed "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied" a few sec before i could write anything :s	08:52
poyntz	ActionParsnip: provided they can give contributors the info they need to fix it	08:52
powertool08	poyntz: Not necessarily, file what you know, they ask for more info, then you give them what they ask for.	08:52
ActionParsnip	poyntz: no, just say when something is wrong and someone more knowledgable will ask you to generate info from your system to beef up the info	08:52
poyntz	ActionParsnip powertool08 : provided they point me in the right direction. Often I find once a bug report gets marked as something different, people stop looking at it	08:53
ActionParsnip	poyntz: like on launchpad questions, some people log questions with so little information that its hard to know what they are asking, so you ask them to clarify	08:53
ardchoille	Perhaps the bugs convo can be moved to #ubuntu-bugs?	08:53
jove	actionparsip: it failed, do you have any idea ? wine-dev: Depends: wine (= 0.9.35~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1) but it is not going to be installed	08:53
ActionParsnip	jove: you can then run: traceroute destination and you will tracerote to whatever you need to test	08:53
poyntz	you'd be surprised. a lot of the time they just say "thread close due to insufficient information"	08:53
ActionParsnip	jove: you need to have wine 0.9.35 installed to install the dev package	08:54
poyntz	ey ActionParsnip, is kubuntu-desktop the full kubuntu package?	08:54
ActionParsnip	poyntz: then keep it alive asking "what information do you need of me" etc	08:55
poyntz	ActionParsnip: i'll do that next time	08:55
jove	actionparsnip: how to get wine 0.9.35 ?	08:55
ActionParsnip	poyntz: its kde plus all the apps which are installed in a standard kubuntu install	08:55
ActionParsnip	jove: sudo apt-get install wine	08:55
ibmx61	hi	08:55
Hans_Henrik	whenever i open a shell, it spam "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied" a few seconds before i can write anything :s never happened before, any ideas what has happed?	08:55
poyntz	ActionParsnip: any way I could just get KDE, and run the gnome apps off it?	08:55
lengend	jove, what country are you from?	08:55
poyntz	ActionParsnip: that's probably a stupid question	08:55
ActionParsnip	poyntz: if you have gnome apps like gedit installed, you will also et kate and kwrite so expect duplicate apps, you can uninstall the apps you dont need	08:56
Tartaros	where can I set what's the title of an xterm window/tab ? - nvm I figured it out. If anyone happened to care, it's in ~/.bashrc script	08:56
poyntz	Hans_Henrik: I'm picking you don't have root access from the user account you've logged into	08:56
ardchoille	poyntz: kde apps run fine in gnome and vice versa	08:56
ricree	I've been having a problem with sound since I upgraded to 9.10. Certain programs (mostly mp3 players) have a bad echoing effect, although other programs (VLC, Flash player) work fine. Most guides I found online only deal with issues that effect the entire system. Any suggestions on how to fix this?	08:56
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jove	actionparsnip: it still failed: wine-dev: Depends: wine (= 0.9.35~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1) but 1.0.1-0ubuntu3~intrepid1 is to be installed	08:56
poyntz	ardchoille: but the scripts may not. take transkode for example...	08:56
SultansElephant	ActionParsnip : you can run KDE apps in GNOME and vice-versa it'll automatically install the dependencies	08:56
ActionParsnip	SultansElephant: absolutely, some are weird but will run	08:57
poyntz	SultansElephant: not if you have to install from source, because the KDE app/script isn't in the repos	08:57
anarcap	HI all. Question about video playback on VLC, SMPlayer, MPlayer etc. I have a DVD of the movie Cars and opened it up in a few movie players on Ubuntu 9.10 and they all start up in Full Screen (standard 4:3) and not widescreen. I know that the DVD is widescreen, and I can't figure out how to get it to play in widescreen	08:57
SultansElephant	jove : what are you trying to do?	08:57
ActionParsnip	SultansElephant: the deps will be met by apt-get / synaptic / whatever	08:57
SultansElephant	poyntz : ppa	08:57
hassanakevazir	can someone tell me www.google.com 's ip? for some reason my dns is not resolving it, but works otherwise	08:57
Hans_Henrik	poyntz: i am in sudo-users (or what its called), but.. why did this happen just now?	08:57
powertool08	anarcap: Some applications have an aspect ratio setting in the options/preferences menu.	08:58
jove	sultanselephant: trying to install "traceroute"	08:58
ActionParsnip	Hans_Henrik: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/27030-bash-dev-null-permission-denied-why.html	08:58
poyntz	Hans_Henrik: so in a terminal you can use "sudo"? also have you tried seeing if xterm works?	08:58
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Hans_Henrik	poyntz: yup, nope	08:59
ActionParsnip	hassanakevazir: i get 74.125.159.106	08:59
poyntz	Hans_Henrik: I'd be picking it's a permission issue. if it is, you may have to log into Ubuntu recovery mode and reset permissions	08:59
ActionParsnip	poyntz: read the guide i pasted	08:59
SultansElephant	jove : you dont need windows traceroute	08:59
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I don't have the issue. But I've had permissions dilemmas before. Either way I'll check out the guide. thanks!	08:59
SultansElephant	jove : you can use bash's traceroute	08:59
suigeneris	I just realized that videos on facebook don't play to their full length when on ubuntu. anyone can tell me how I can fix that?	08:59
powertool08	hassanakevazir: Google has many IP's, it picks the one closest to you, so depending on your location, it could be very different from the IP I have for google.	08:59
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: reinstall flash	09:00
SultansElephant	suigeneris : get more codecs	09:00
SultansElephant	!medibuntu \| suigeneris	09:00
poyntz	ActionParsnip: odd that you can just chmod, change permissions for the directory :/	09:00
ubottu	suigeneris: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	09:00
ricree	I've been having a problem with sound since I upgraded to 9.10. Certain programs (mostly mp3 players) have a bad echoing effect, although other programs (VLC, Flash player) work fine. Most guides I found online only deal with issues that effect the entire system. Any suggestions on how to fix this?	09:00
jove	sultanselephant, it couldn't do it either	09:00
poyntz	ActionParsnip: *can't	09:00
ActionParsnip	poyntz: its not a directory	09:01
SultansElephant	jove : did you install traceroute (sudo apt-get install traceroute) or in synaptic	09:01
hassanakevazir	ActionParsnip, powertool08, basically all domain addresses are working but google. But thanks, that IP works fine here. and now if I only remember what I was searching for ...	09:01
ActionParsnip	poyntz: try: file /dev/null	09:01
jove	no, it failed because it did not have wine	09:01
poyntz	ActionParsnip: yeh, in shell it's yellow	09:01
poyntz	ActionParsnip: not sure what that means, but it can't be a directory	09:01
ActionParsnip	poyntz: run the command I gave, it will tell you	09:02
ActionParsnip	jove: try adding the wine repo, may help	09:02
SultansElephant	jove : all right, i will accept that you need wine for whatever reason. go to winehq.com	09:02
powertool08	hassanakevazir: All of google's IP's would work for you, but the closer ones would work faster, though its probably a negligible difference.	09:02
SultansElephant	!jove \| wine	09:02
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about jove	09:02
poyntz	ActionParsnip: what's character special mean?	09:02
SultansElephant	!wine \| jove	09:02
ubottu	jove: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	09:02
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, do you remember anybody having this issue before?	09:02
ActionParsnip	poyntz: not sure, websearch to find out. I'm sure jeeves will know	09:02
TimeRider	wine is good for you	09:02
SultansElephant	i use crossover and playonlinux	09:03
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: not had it myself, you can try the 10.1 beta flash if your ubuntu is 32bit	09:03
anarcap	powertool08 - Yes, I know about the aspect ration option. However, that only the changes the output and will only force the 4:3 into 16:9 thus streching out the video. On most discs there are 2 versions of the movie, a 4:3 version and a 16:9 versions. For some reason my movie players are only playing the 4:3 version and I have no option to change it.	09:03
Tronic	How can I set my keyring master password?	09:03
SultansElephant	(yes i know it's based on wine)	09:03
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, how can I get that one by apt-get?	09:03
Tronic	Evolution keeps asking for that and it doesn't accept my login password.	09:03
poyntz	ActionParsnip: thanks for the command tho. i should've known it already	09:03
suigeneris	with*	09:03
powertool08	anarcap: Heh, tried flipping the dvd over?	09:04
TimeRider	lmao power	09:04
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hassanakevazir	ricree, whats your sound card? lspci \| grep Audio	09:04
SultansElephant	stop grepping me audio	09:04
ricree	hassanakevazir: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)	09:04
poyntz	ActionParsnip: judging by what I've found it seems remotely like a partition...	09:04
Hans_Henrik	ActionParsnip: tried all, ls -l /dev/null;rm /dev/null;mknod -m 0666 /dev/null c 1 3; as root, and i still get it when i open a new shell (not as root)	09:04
suigeneris	Tronic, does any other e-mail client accept your login password?	09:04
poyntz	ActionParsnip: like sda hda, etc.	09:05
ActionParsnip	poyntz: its a special file, its just a blak hole to throw garbage into	09:05
ardchoille	poyntz: sda and hda are not partitions, they are devices.. a partion would be sda1, hda1, etc	09:05
ActionParsnip	poyntz: we used to ssh into each others systems at uni and run: yes > /dev/null "oh noes, mi megahurtz!"	09:06
poyntz	ardchoille: sorry. that's what i meant. i was going to write sda* hda*	09:06
SultansElephant	poyntz : have you tried ubuntuforums.org ?	09:06
SultansElephant	poyntz : those people are usually nicer and more knowledgable	09:06
anarcap	powertool08 -- OMG, I'm a moron. Forgive me. It IS a fullscreen DVD. Sorry.	09:07
wuffi600	hi.	09:07
poyntz	ActionParsnip: I don't understand how that would work when "null" isn't a text file :/	09:07
SultansElephant	poyntz : doesnt seem like youre getting anywhere here, try it	09:07
powertool08	anarcap: Its alright, I've done it too :)	09:07
anarcap	powertool08 - take it easy, and thanks.	09:07
lstarnes	poyntz: it's not a normal file	09:07
Hans_Henrik	/dev/null =(void)data	09:07
SultansElephant	!forum \| poyntz	09:07
ubottu	poyntz: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.	09:07
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SultansElephant	join #ubuntuforums	09:08
ActionParsnip	poyntz: yes just echos "yes" with a carridge return, the system then throws it into /dev/null yes works as fast as it can so cloggs up the cpu	09:08
poyntz	SultansElephant: yeh, I already have it as a quick launch :P	09:08
poyntz	SultansElephant: thanks anyhow	09:08
poyntz	SultansElephant: I use the forums a fair bit	09:08
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Bacta	What's the newest version of Ubuntu?	09:09
lstarnes	Bacta: 9.10	09:09
ActionParsnip	!9.10 \| Bacta	09:09
ubottu	Bacta: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910	09:09
Bacta	When's 10.04 coming?	09:09
poyntz	ActionParsnip: acting almost like a loop of sorts?	09:09
whammo	does anybody know how to change which kernel will be first in grub2's boot list?	09:10
lstarnes	Bacta: april 2010	09:10
ActionParsnip	Bacta: ubuntu uses calendar times for names	09:10
ardchoille	Bacta: April of 2010 hopefully	09:10
Bacta	ah so 9.10 is the new one?	09:10
wuffi600	if i do an "apt-get update" i get an errormessage about not working signature verification. How can i solve this? please see here: http://pastebin.org/55475 Could you help me?	09:10
ActionParsnip	Bacta: its realesed 20 (10) in aprile (4)th month	09:10
ActionParsnip	Bacta: hence 10.04	09:10
Guest54467	i accidentally got rid of the network status icon on the main panel how do i get it back	09:10
whammo	I'm wasting too much time rebooting because I forget to hold shift	09:10
Bacta	ah :) Clever	09:10
Bacta	Never understood those version numbers until now	09:10
ActionParsnip	Bacta: intrepid is 8.10, it was released 200(8) in october (10)th month	09:11
ActionParsnip	Bacta: its hugely logical	09:11
whammo	canonical people are smert	09:11
Hans_Henrik	ActionParsnip: xD sorry, i had 2x shells up, 1 with SSH to the remote computer, and 1 with local, i wrote the commands on the wrong shell (localhost) xD sorry	09:11
ActionParsnip	Hans_Henrik: d'oh	09:12
powertool08	It makes it easy to remember when I first installed Ubuntu too!	09:12
silv3r_m00n	is there a version of quanta plus for kde 4 ?	09:12
superpaco	does any one know how I can make an ISO out my installed ubuntu??	09:12
poyntz	ActionParsnip: do you contribute to ubuntu?	09:12
ardchoille	!remastersys	09:13
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about remastersys	09:13
superpaco	does any one know how I can make an ISO out my installed ubuntu??	09:13
ActionParsnip	poyntz: only here and launchpad, i'm part of the lubuntu team but i havent contributed much really	09:13
ardchoille	poyntz: simply by providing support for Ubuntu, he is supporting Ubuntu :)	09:13
ActionParsnip	poyntz: i'm 5th largest answerer on launchpad too :)	09:13
Tartaros	superpaco: define "iso out my installed ubuntu". Also, don't repeat your questions like there's no tomorrow	09:13
superpaco	ISO	09:14
poyntz	ActionParsnip: wow. same pseudo?	09:14
ActionParsnip	Tartaros: i think like a prtition image	09:14
superpaco	well easy I have a ubuntu with a lot of compilations on the kernel I want to make a copy of that copy	09:14
superpaco	simple	09:14
lengend	does wine usually lag? LIke i click on my task bar to go to winamp, but it won't come on-top	09:14
ardchoille	lengend: you're running winamp in wine?	09:15
ActionParsnip	superpaco: you can use partimage to backup your partition, it will also compress it for you, you can then easily restore the partition using the same tool, you will not be able to boot from the image	09:15
powertool08	lengend: Why are you using winamp in wine? Audacious is the same thing but newer	09:15
ActionParsnip	!winamp	09:15
ubottu	winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use audacious as alternative.	09:15
ardchoille	lengend: Why not just run audacious? It doesn't need wine and it uses the same skins, it's almost a winamp clone	09:15
manitu	ActionParsnip, booted the notebook with knoppix now.. i can fully access the hdd :(	09:16
lengend	well, i need winamp because of shoutcast	09:16
poyntz	!amarok \| lengend	09:16
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok	09:16
lengend	but i will give Audacious a try though	09:16
ActionParsnip	manitu: then check the dmesg output and loaded modules	09:16
Hans_Henrik	ActionParsnip: i guess its off-topic but what is lubuntu?	09:16
superpaco	no but I want to make an ISO so I can install it on other computers... is that possible on ubuntu??? is possible on BT that is ubuntu based	09:16
Rsb	hello... how can i deactivate the mouse pointer. I use a touchscreen? Can I add something in xorg.conf	09:16
ActionParsnip	!lubuntu \| Hans_Henrik	09:16
poyntz	!info amarok \| lengend	09:16
ardchoille	lengend: I was told audacious does shoutcast. Have you tried it?	09:16
ubottu	lengend: amarok (source: amarok): easy to use media player based on the KDE 4 technology platform. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.2.0-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 7080 kB, installed size 19152 kB	09:16
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about lubuntu	09:16
manitu	ActionParsnip, newbie :(	09:16
n2diy	My test box has grown up, and is ready to leave the nest, how do I secure it, before setting it free in the wild?	09:17
ActionParsnip	Hans_Henrik: ok, its ubuntu with LXDE as default, its like MoonOS but is officially recognised by Canonical	09:17
poyntz	ok, thats about my level of service today. i'm out kids. ciao!	09:17
poyntz	thanks for the help	09:17
powertool08	superpaco: Maybe its done in the same fashion as BT's method?	09:17
lengend	ok downloading now, thank you	09:17
ActionParsnip	manitu: lsmod will show the loaded modules (drivers), you can also run: dmesg \| less and read the bootup to see whats different	09:17
lengend	ohh btw the command is "sudo apt-get install audacious" right?	09:17
Tartaros	n2diy: wanna secure it, or set it free? can't have both :P	09:17
superpaco	no	09:17
suigeneris	how do I query the packages on my system?	09:17
ardchoille	lengend: yes	09:17
lengend	ok ty	09:18
superpaco	I check the directory where its the ISO and is not there	09:18
silv3r_m00n	how to run quanta plus on kde 4 ?	09:18
n2diy	Tartaros: I want to set it free, but remove my data first.	09:18
ActionParsnip	superpaco: you can make an identically sized partition to yours and then use partimage to spit the file onto the new system	09:18
superpaco	backtrack creates a directory with an ISO that has all your modules	09:18
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ActionParsnip	superpaco: you can also edit the live CD to have only what you want on it	09:18
ardchoille	suigeneris: see my command line cheatsheet, I have a section there for package management: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/command-line-cheatsheet.html	09:18
manitu	ActionParsnip, with knoppix? because ubuntu does not boot, already tried different kernel versions which still was in grub and the recovery.. couldn't boot it	09:19
superpaco	ActionParsnip, hoo that sound interesting	09:19
ActionParsnip	manitu: yes, they are both Linux so are technically the same OS	09:19
superpaco	how can I do that??/	09:19
superpaco	where is a tutorial?	09:19
superpaco	do you have a link??	09:19
ActionParsnip	superpaco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization	09:19
ailleantsian	is anyone able to help with a graphics problem in Karmic release	09:19
lengend	well, i am off to bed, thanks for the help	09:19
Tartaros	n2diy: afraid I don't really understand what you're talking about :)	09:19
lainy	how come the volume control in linux is master and pcm? is there a way to combine the two?	09:20
powertool08	superpaco: Also: http://maketecheasier.com/backup-ubuntu-with-remastersys/2008/12/22	09:20
meimei	Hi,guys!there is a question I must solve.I can read data from /dev/input/event5 under character mode,but I can't read anything under Xwindow.What's problem?Thanks.	09:20
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Hans_Henrik	is there a way to chown a folder to several users?	09:21
powertool08	Hans_Henrik: Only one user can own it, the group and other permissions allow others to read/write to it.	09:21
ailleantsian	i have a nvida card, and never had a problem with the other releases, when i install the nvida restricted drives, and reboot i can no longer get gnome or kde desktops but get what I like just a terminal full screen	09:21
n2diy	Tartaros: I have a test box, and a mission critical box. I now have a new test box, so the old one is redundant, and should be disposed of. I want to donate the test box, but don't want my data exposed to the new owner of the test box.	09:22
powertool08	n2diy: Google DBAN	09:22
suigeneris	Package flashplayer-mozilla is not available, but is referred to by another package. <--- what does that mean?	09:23
hassanakevazir	ailleantsian, try sudo nvidia-xconfig , then restart	09:23
n2diy	powertool08: ok.	09:23
lainy	everytime i change my volume i have to fiddle between both master and pcm in alsamixer... is there an easier way, i.e., just one combined volume control?	09:23
Tartaros	n2diy: burn the disk then, that's the only secure way :P	09:23
ashiswin	umm	09:23
ashiswin	hello	09:23
powertool08	n2diy: I've also heard if you use dd to overwrite the entire thing with all 0's or all 1's its pretty much unrecoverable.	09:23
ActionParsnip	Hans_Henrik: you'll need to make a group, add them (and root) to the group, then use chown :groupname_here folder	09:23
ashiswin	anyone who knows how to develop an operating system pleeeeeease pm me. very very urgent	09:23
ailleantsian	suigeneris , ihad that problem but in the software library in gnome in the other category there is a flash player there	09:23
ActionParsnip	Hans_Henrik: you can add -R to make it a recursive chown, and you'll need sudo if your user is not the owner	09:24
powertool08	lainy: Turn one all the way up and use the other to change the volume, save the setting with 'sudo alsactl store 0'	09:24
ailleantsian	hasanakevazir: so if i install the nvida drivers again and when i reboot get to that or should i do that before trying to install them again	09:24
Tartaros	ashiswin: you're urgently developing an OS? that's kind of funny. But good luck with it, especially here :)	09:24
ActionParsnip	ashiswin: i suggest you look into gentoo for that	09:25
ashiswin	Tartaros: im looking for womeone with experience	09:25
ashiswin	ActionParsnip: why?	09:25
n2diy	Tartaros: , powertool08, ok, but, I want to preserve the system, just get my stuff off it. My thoughts are to reinstall, but only reformat the /home partition.	09:25
hassanakevazir	ailleantsian, if your drivers are no installed do that. by the way whats your nvidia card?	09:25
suigeneris	!find flashplayer-mozilla	09:25
ubottu	Package/file flashplayer-mozilla does not exist in karmic	09:25
ActionParsnip	ashiswin: its a good place to start developing your own OS from	09:25
hassanakevazir	ailleantsian, if your drivers are right now installed do that. by the way whats your nvidia card?	09:26
ikonia	suigeneris: check out flashplugin-nonfree	09:26
ActionParsnip	!flash \| suigeneris	09:26
ubottu	suigeneris: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	09:26
powertool08	n2diy: Hmm, if you had put home on its own partition this would be easy...	09:26
ashiswin	ActionParsnip: Gentoo??? Cant i use ubuntu?	09:26
n2diy	powertool08: I did.	09:26
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: if you want the 10.1 flash and have 32bit ubuntu you can download the file to ~/.mozilla/plugins	09:26
ActionParsnip	ashiswin: sure, you'll be using apt-build though. Depends what your perception of "develop" is	09:27
Tartaros	ashiswin: of course you can use ubuntu. You didn't say what you need to do so far	09:27
ActionParsnip	ashiswin: if you mean "install" then download the desktop ISO, MD5 test it, burn it and boot to it	09:27
ailleantsian	hassanakevazir: NVIDIA GeForce Go 6600	09:27
powertool08	n2diy: Ok, so just boot from a live cd, mkfs <preferred filesystem> on the home partition, mount it and create needed directories, restart. It will lose all user specific settings, but your info will be gone.	09:28
om26er	i change the exorg for custom resolution but has no effect. i can get 1368768 but not 12801024	09:28
hassanakevazir	he is spamming around asking how to develop an OS, i call troll ...	09:28
om26er	i am using nvidia driver 185	09:28
ashiswin	Tartaros, ActionParsnip: i mean creating a bootloader and kernel and making the bootloader call the kernel	09:28
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, there's no ~/.mozilla/plugins. should I mkdir?	09:29
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: indeed	09:29
Tartaros	ashiswin: "creating" as in programming?	09:29
ashiswin	Tartaros: yea	09:29
hassanakevazir	ailleantsian, ok, then install the restricted drivers, run sudo nvidia-xconfig and restart	09:29
Tartaros	ashiswin: well, why?	09:29
n2diy	powertool08: umm, ok. That seems like work! Wouldn't reformatting /home do the trick?	09:29
ashiswin	Tartaros: I got plans, why dont u pm me	09:30
Tartaros	ashiswin: why would I? :)	09:30
powertool08	n2diy: If you have some extra space on the drive, make a new partition, mount it in place of the current /home, once happy, delete the other partition and add the freed up space to the new /home partition.	09:30
ashiswin	Tartaros: Well, u seem to know OS dev	09:31
ardchoille	!ot	09:31
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	09:31
powertool08	n2diy: That's what I said to do, but I don't think you can do it while running the system you are changing, hence the live cd.	09:31
ailleantsian	hassanakevazir: I run that command and get command not found	09:31
n2diy	powertool08: this is my test box, everything is backed up already. (knock on wood)	09:31
powertool08	n2diy: Also, the command mkfs is used to format.	09:31
Tartaros	ashiswin: i do? wonderful news. Anyway as I said, good luck with that here... this is support channel for ubuntu, which is an already established OS.	09:31
ashiswin	lol, k	09:32
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz; tar zxvf ./flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz; mv ./install_flash_player_10_linux/libflashplayer.so .; rm -rf ./install_flash_player_10_linux/; rm ./ flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz	09:32
n2diy	powertool08: I have access to the box via ssh, on the soho lan.	09:32
suigeneris	thank you ActionParsnip	09:32
Parsi	what's different between ubuntu 32-bit and 64-bit?	09:32
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: you should then remove any flashplugin packages you have installed like flashplugin-installer or flashplugin-nonfree	09:32
Parsi	does 64-bit run faster?	09:33
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: as well as any gnash and swfdec packages too	09:33
ActionParsnip	Parsi: in some situations yes, as just a desktop, no	09:33
alankila	Parsi: depends on application. 64-bit systems have a nasty tendency to allocate 8 bytes per pointer, which can be a real memory drain.	09:33
Parsi	ActionParsnip: what about converting video files ?	09:34
powertool08	n2diy: I don't know for sure if you can reformat home on a live system, I'd think you'd have to be at init 3 (single user mode) at least, but best to do it from a live cd.	09:34
ActionParsnip	Parsi: thats where it is faster, data translations are faster	09:34
alankila	most applications do not actually need the memory available from this wide pointer, so it is wasted memory.	09:34
Parsi	ActionParsnip: is there any converter for ubuntu that supports 64-bit?	09:34
n2diy	powertool08: roger that, thanks.	09:34
ActionParsnip	alankila: unused ram in linux is used as disk cache to make hdd access faster, so is in no way wasted	09:34
hassanakevazir	ailleantsian, then uninstall the restricted drivers, and either use "envyng-gtk" to install your nvidia drivers, then run the command, or use a ppa repository, I use https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa	09:34
ailleantsian	hassanakevazir: I opened the termninal again and it worked however i got this : Vailidation Error, Data incomplete in file /ect/11/xor.conf uneined device "(null)" referenced by screen	09:35
alankila	ActionParsnip: that in no way addressed what I said.	09:35
ActionParsnip	Parsi: all the ones on the repos will be 64bit if your install is 64bit	09:35
ailleantsian	" default Screen "	09:35
powertool08	n2diy: np, good luck. Time for me to go to bed.	09:35
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hassanakevazir	xor.conf??	09:35
alankila	I'm saying that 64-bit java uses 2x the memory of 32-bit java, for instance. If your workload is pointer heavy, 8 bytes per pointer is a real drag.	09:35
Parsi	ActionParsnip: wow, thanks	09:35
ailleantsian	sorry my keyboard is a bit broke and it woulnt let me copy and past	09:35
n2diy	powertool08: 10-4 on sack time, me too, 73	09:36
ailleantsian	its Xorg.confi	09:36
alankila	(which is why they came up with -XX:UseCompressedOops for Java, to use 32-bit pointers even on 64-bit VM, so this problem is gone.)	09:36
ActionParsnip	Parsi: yeah its pretty sweet, you also need it to address more than 3Gb RAM (unles you install the server kernel which has PAE)	09:36
ailleantsian	trys to copy and past again :	09:36
ailleantsian	VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.	09:36
ailleantsian	Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default	09:36
ailleantsian	Screen".	09:36
alankila	otherwise I haven't been able to identify any significant performance improvements from running 64-bit or 32-bit. If you don't need > 2 GB of memory, I don't think it matters to go for 64-bit.	09:36
n2diy	4g?	09:37
Parsi	ActionParsnip: unfortunately my mainboard does not support more than 2GB of RAM	09:37
alankila	there may be some benefit, but these are generally sucked away by the loss of wide pointers or lower support in applications like java, mono or firefox	09:37
alankila	err... by the loss implied by wide pointers...	09:37
theneoindian	hi , i installed db2 . but typing ./db2cc gives error : db2javit: not found	09:37
ActionParsnip	Parsi: if you are changing file formats like video encoding, go 64bit. my desktop board only supports 2Gb too	09:37
theshadowx	hi guys	09:38
n2diy	theneoindian:	09:38
theshadowx	i have a big problem	09:38
n2diy	theneoindian: "sudo updatebd?	09:38
Parsi	ActionParsnip: yes,	09:38
Parsi	i do	09:38
theneoindian	what is uupdatebd	09:38
ActionParsnip	Parsi: then 64bit will be a little better under those apps, the rest will rn as fast as the 32bit	09:39
theshadowx	i upgraded ubunto from 9.04 --> 9.10 but i can't boot with kernel 2.6.31-14 but with 2.6.30 i can	09:39
n2diy	theneoindian: sorry, it should be "sudo updatedb", which updates your files.	09:39
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alankila	well firefox under 64-bit sucks at least	09:39
alankila	firefox has javascript jit only for 32-bit	09:39
Parsi	ActionParsnip: in windows, usually 32-bit is faster than 64-bit	09:40
Parsi	alankila: have you any idea about firefox 64-bit?	09:40
axeeffect	is there a issue with DSL in karmic....i cant connect to my net ...it though use to work in 9.04	09:40
ActionParsnip	Parsi: most apps arent 64it in windows yet	09:40
hullo	hello, how does vino go about automatically configuring the network to accept connections in ubuntu 9.10?	09:40
alankila	Parsi: yes, I run it, and it goes with JIT disabled because people don't still support 64-bit properly.	09:40
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, the same thing	09:40
hassanakevazir	ailleantsian, never had that error before, no idea :/	09:40
ricree	I've been having a problem with sound since I upgraded to 9.10. Certain programs (mostly mp3 players) have a bad echoing effect, although other programs (VLC, Flash player) work fine. Most guides I found online only deal with issues that effect the entire system. Any suggestions on how to fix this?	09:40
Klavmanian	axeeffect: are you connecting directly to your dsl modem?	09:41
ronald_	hello there!what kind of linux that match for gateway M520? because i use ubuntu the problem is they have no audio sound.,	09:41
theneoindian	n2diy, is there any other gui tool available other than control center ?	09:41
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: weird, have you tried clearing your cache? Have you tried a different browser	09:41
axeeffect	@Klav...directly means?	09:41
dutchbuntu	Programs like Empathy, Evolution and XChat stop functioning when I start a VPN connection. The only program that still had internet access is Firefox. I am using OpenDNS. I have just tried the solution to change the IPv4 settings of the VPN connection: I changed the Method to 'Automatic (VPN) addresses only' and put OpenDNS's nameservers. This doesn't help me. Any suggestions?	09:42
fcuk112	has anyone remapped the ctrl-A," keybinding in screen to something else?	09:42
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, yesterday I've tried that	09:42
ailleantsian	hassanakevazir: thanks for your help I appricate it, I will google and see if anything comes up now	09:42
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n2diy	theneoindian: umm, not sure? I can work on the CLI.	09:42
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: do other browsers work?	09:42
axeeffect	i have a dsl modem...i connect using ethernet...my dhcp works as jus connecting to auto eth0 does the job...but for dsl connection it keep connecting nothin happens...and i need to change ip for jdownloader	09:43
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, dunno, I only have FF. Just a sec, I will try.	09:43
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: does your VPN use a different subnet to your LAN connection?	09:43
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, but when I look into about:plugins, it says libflashplayer.so version 10.0 is activated too. could 10.0 be interfering with 10.1?	09:43
theneoindian	n2diy, how can i select a database from cli ?	09:43
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: if both are on 192.168.0.x yuo wont get a connection as their is no differentiation between the vpn and the lan	09:44
zsolt	hi there!I'm so sad,i would like to use amsn with audio/video,but can't figure out how to install fairsight2	09:44
n2diy	theneoindian: umm, what is the name of the DB?	09:44
Klavmanian	axeeffect: i do not use dsl. but as i understand it this problem can be circumvented by using a nat device of some sort (i.e. wrt54g or other routing appliance)	09:44
axeeffect	@klav... :(	09:44
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: yes, you need to remove flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer	09:44
theneoindian	n2diy, when i give list active databases , it doesn't show the created database	09:44
zsolt	i tried everything and can't understand,why it is so complicated	09:44
hwilde	amsn?	09:44
zsolt	yes	09:44
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: and any other flash packages, you also need to restart your browser to load the new plugins	09:45
theneoindian	n2diy, db name is test	09:45
n2diy	theneoindian: ok, I think your over my head?	09:45
Parsi	does MONO supports all .net namespaces?	09:45
Andorin	I have a question. I'm thinking of getting an external USB hard drive. Do those work okay in Linux? Can I access files on them easily just like an iPod or flash drive or other USB device?	09:46
hwilde	zsolt, did you install gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight	09:46
zsolt	i tried to compile fairsight2,but without any succes:(	09:46
zsolt	yes	09:46
zsolt	everything	09:46
hwilde	Andorin, most of them work fine	09:46
hwilde	zsolt, so do you get an error or what?	09:46
axeeffect	is there any bug in network manger or patch...for dsl connection ....which used to work in 9.04 but dowsnt in 9.1	09:46
Andorin	hwilde: Thanks.	09:46
zsolt	amsn didn't recognize fairsight2	09:46
hwilde	it is called farsight, not fair	09:47
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: if you want you can use http://pastebin.com and give the output of: dpkg -l \|grep flash; dpkg -l \|grep gnash; dpkg -l \|grep swf	09:47
theneoindian	n2diy, it's de first time i'm using db2 and i'm really fed up with this .. if only i had the control center , i could've done smthng	09:47
strongsoul	help \| when i do a apt-get upgrade i get this error http://pastebin.com/m3193b23c	09:47
kom9	zzzzzz	09:47
zsolt	and I can't find any .deb package for fairsight2	09:47
strongsoul	whats the problem ?	09:47
ActionParsnip	axeeffect: theres a network manager daily build repo	09:47
soro	Hi, i have serious problem, any help will be appreciated. i messed up my karmic distro. i removed gtk -which was really a bad idea :(- and almost every packages on my system has been removed. Is there a way to reset my system to karmic defaults from the console?	09:47
axeeffect	is dsl anything to do with my kernel...i changed my menu.lst kenel ...using latest kernel was giving some flickers in screen...the bars used in splash screen is still not goin awa from screen...but its does come if i use old ver kernel	09:48
zsolt	i don't want to harm my clean installed Os	09:48
hwilde	soro, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop	09:48
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/f2b6972c7	09:48
n2diy	theneoindian: ok, roger that. It is a long road, but a rewarding one. All I want to do is sell my test box, but not give the new owner any of my info.	09:48
alankila	soro: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"	09:48
strongsoul	can somebody help me ?	09:48
strongsoul	http://pastebin.com/m3193b23c	09:48
suigeneris	it still sees only 10.0	09:49
noFace	hey hey, I've got a studio xps 13, I've been running ubuntu on it for a fair while, and the nvidia softare for multi monitor has worked fine for VGA out, but I've just tried HDMI and it can't detect the second display at all	09:49
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, Epiphany works	09:49
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, Epiphany works when VPN is active	09:49
soro	hwilde, alankila: thanks!	09:49
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, it still sees only 10.0	09:49
soro	will try	09:49
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: sudo apt-get --purge remove libswfdec-0.8-0 swfdec-gnome	09:49
sivang	anybody know if easy_install has a package?	09:49
zsolt	amsn is the only solution to me	09:49
sivang	I could not find it using apt-cache	09:49
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, about the subnet, can I pastebin the output of ifconfig (with and without VPN)? Does that give the info?	09:50
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: then its a settings problem in firefox, have you tried renaming ~/.mozilla then rerunning the browser?	09:50
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ubuntu-liveuser	When I boot Ubuntu, I get all kinds of fundamental errors like not being able to mount the stuff in fstab etc.	09:50
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: as long as they are different its fine, and empathy works which means the logic is ok	09:50
ubuntu-liveuser	I can mount everything fine from the 9.10 live cd.	09:50
ActionParsnip	ubuntu-liveuser: did you MD5 test the ISO, did you run the CD verifier?	09:50
ubuntu-liveuser	Question: how can I repair the operating system on the harddrive?	09:50
Jetsetlemming	How do I change the settings for Grub so it pops up a list of OS's every time I turn on my computer? I have Ubuntu 9.10 and WinXP installed but Grub just auto-boots Ubuntu	09:50
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, no FF is not the problem. FF still has access. Evolution, Empathy, XChat don't.	09:50
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: I am running from the CD. I did the upgrade via the network.	09:51
CptnAwesome	hi folks, i've just setup a new xubuntu box to test some scripts on, but i would like to setup ssh access to it, i've done "ssh 192.168.0.250" on my laptop, but i get "Connection Refused"	09:51
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: but I did so on the advice on someone in this channel. I believe the advice was wrong.	09:51
suigeneris	Jetsetlemming, increase the time	09:51
Jetsetlemming	suigeneris: and how do I do that?	09:51
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: I basically did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade with only karmic repositories.	09:51
ActionParsnip	ubuntu-liveuser: ok cool, you can chroot to the installed system, or simply edit the files on the partition	09:51
n2diy	CptnAwesome: Does the error message ID the offending file?	09:52
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: yes, I know that procedure.	09:52
Jetsetlemming	And I didn't even see a menu at all, I was watching when it loaded. It went straight from the Bios splash screen to the Ubuntu loading logo	09:52
ActionParsnip	ubuntu-liveuser: that isnt advised, you should use update manager	09:52
suigeneris	Jetsetlemming, timeoutx	09:52
axeeffect	Jetsetlemming change goto terminal and run sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst	09:52
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: I know, but update manager doesn't work with a proxy.	09:52
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ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: the problem basically is: what do I need to install to get the system in the same state as I would get on the LiveCD?	09:53
axeeffect	read the comment in the file	09:53
Jetsetlemming	axeeffect: that file is blank	09:53
CptnAwesome	"zach@zf-home:~$ ssh 192.168.0.250" "ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.250 port 22: Connection refused"	09:53
ActionParsnip	ubuntu-liveuser: then use the alternate CD, there is an update script tere which wil upgrade yo gracefully, editting the sources file is not advised and will cause issues	09:53
CptnAwesome	n2diy, i just need to know how to enable SSH on the machine =)	09:53
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: can't I just do it via the network from this livecd?	09:53
axeeffect	ubotto	09:53
axeeffect	!ubotto	09:54
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotto	09:54
n2diy	CptnAwesome: What does "ssh -v" tell you?	09:54
sivang	ah darn	09:54
sivang	it's python-setuptools :)	09:54
axeeffect	!ubotto "menu.lst"	09:54
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	09:54
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: something like chroot /media/<foo> sudo apt-<something>?	09:54
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: you could set a route command to tell the system to route any connections heading for the IP of your favourite irc server to use the LAN interface rather than the VPN	09:54
axeeffect	!ubotto menu.lst	09:54
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotto menu.lst	09:54
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: not entirely graceful but wil wok	09:54
axeeffect	!ubotto grub	09:54
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotto grub	09:54
ActionParsnip	axeeffect: you dont need to add !ubottu	09:54
ActionParsnip	axeeffect: use !grub etc	09:55
roronoa	!grub \| axeeffect	09:55
ubottu	axeeffect: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.	09:55
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, that won't help Evolution, I guess...	09:55
axeeffect	:)	09:55
CptnAwesome	n2diy, what do you want to know, the version is "OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5ubuntu1, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007"	09:55
Jetsetlemming	!grub2	09:55
ubottu	GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	09:55
axeeffect	!menu.lst	09:55
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about menu.lst	09:55
axeeffect	!menu.list	09:56
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about menu.list	09:56
Jetsetlemming	(I'm running Karmic)	09:56
Antagonist	Hmm, does Ubuntu have any support for the 3 partition system? /boot, pagefile and /?	09:56
roronoa	axeeffect please use /msg ubottu ! your query to experiment the bot	09:56
deepsight	hello, i need some help troubleshooting an error with opengl. i get Major opcode of failed request: 135 (GLX). i have an intel graphics card. when i install xorg-driver-fglrx everything works until next reboot (weird)	09:56
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: you could tell the routing to push all requests for the vpn address down the vpn and the rest down the lan, you are going to have to shape the traffic a little, seems its not auto negotiating	09:57
n2diy	CptnAwesome: just wanted to make sure it was installed.	09:57
SandGorgon	Antagonist, pagefile is simply swap partition ... so I suppose yes	09:57
ubuntu-liveuser	ActionParsnip: so, is there a way to do it via the network?	09:57
Jetsetlemming	Ah, I see grub2 has moved from menu.lst to grub.cfg	09:57
ActionParsnip	ubuntu-liveuser: not sure, i dont use a proxy	09:57
ActionParsnip	!grub2 \| Jetsetlemming	09:57
ubottu	Jetsetlemming: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	09:57
Jetsetlemming	ActionParsnip: I already am reading that	09:58
ActionParsnip	Jetsetlemming: don't edit grub.cfg it is generatedby scripts so changes will be lost next kernel install	09:58
axeeffect	@action...how to fix dsl connection problem	09:58
Jetsetlemming	ActionParsnip: So how do I make Grub2 show a menu every time I turn on the computer, then? Because it still automatically loads ubuntu. I'm trying to dual boot with xp.	09:58
axeeffect	its a pppoe	09:58
zsolt	how can I install fairsight2?it is not in the synaptic,I use Carmic	09:58
JordanC	Hey there folks. Does anyone know how I would be able to install MonoDevelop with Sqlite/MySQL/etc support on Karmic? I'm missing Mono.Data assembly at the moment. Can I do this using the package manager, or do I need to manually compile the app?	09:59
ActionParsnip	Jetsetlemming: you need to add an extra script / entry to grub2's config then run: sudo update-grub and it will be added. I don't use windows so have no experience of this	09:59
Antagonist	By default, if Ubuntu has its own hdd, how many partitions does it create? I'm still busy downloading so unable to test	09:59
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: you can copy the .so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/	09:59
axeeffect	@Anta...only one / swap aprtition	10:00
roronoa	zsolt try getting it from terminal	10:00
chelz	any word on what's up with packages.ubuntu.com?	10:01
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zsolt	how may I get it from terminal?	10:01
CptnAwesome	"sudo apt-get install openssh-server" did the trick	10:01
yoshx	hello	10:01
Antagonist	I would like to run Ubuntu and Gentoo on same hdd. Any specific steps I should take to make sure they play well together?	10:01
ActionParsnip	suigeneris: sudo cp ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/	10:01
roronoa	zsolt try sudo apt-get fairsight2	10:01
axeeffect	how to renew dhcp ip address...for an auto eth0 connection	10:02
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, that was a good tip and easier to realize then you thought. Edit VPN Connection -> IPv4 Setttings -> Routes -> Check 'Use this connection only for resources on its network'. Does exactly what you described.	10:02
JordanC	cheiz: Yeah, seems down	10:02
roronoa	zsolt wait before that sudo apt-get update	10:02
axeeffect	i tried dhclient -r but does work	10:02
n2diy	ActionParsnip: what was the last version of Windows did you use, or, have you never used Windows?	10:02
mrec	does anyone use ubuntu karmic? can someone load the uinput kernel module (sudo modprobe uinput) and check if /dev/uinput or /dev/input/uinput gets created?	10:03
zsolt	system can't recognize it:(	10:03
roronoa	zsolt where did u find fairsight2?	10:03
axeeffect	how to renew ip for a dhcp ehternet connection	10:03
zsolt	nowhere in the package manager	10:04
CptnAwesome	ok, can anyone suggest a way to remote desktop to this new xubuntu machine?	10:04
roronoa	zsolt i mean how did u know about fairsight2?	10:04
zsolt	amsn told me,that faisight2 is needed to make videocalling	10:05
roronoa	zsolt try this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1227013	10:05
axeeffect	ifconfig eht0 down ....then ifconfig eth0 up does connection my eth0 connection back	10:05
zsolt	thank you	10:05
Antagonist	Okay, maybe some background. I have a 500GB HDD dedicated to Vista(soon formatted and Win7), 1500GB NTFS data HDD, and a 80GB space HDD. That 80GB I would like to partition between Gentoo and Ubuntu. I envision this as partitioning it into 4 parts, /boot, swap partition, (both those shared between both linuxes), and a / for each. What is the best installation procedure and/or order to install all this in?	10:05
kickar	hey guys how do i install host, nslookup, dig and so on ?	10:05
axeeffect	iwant to change ip	10:05
roronoa	zsolt and you might want to check this too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/farsight2	10:06
MenZa	Antagonist: Might want to throw in a shared /home directory if you want to share configs and such between them, too.	10:06
ubuntu-liveuser	Is there a way in which I can use the apt-get from the live-cd to upgrade the system on the harddrive?	10:06
Antagonist	MenZa: Good idea, not something I considered but makes sense. I'm adverse to sharing something like /usr tho due to linux differences	10:06
Garbin	How can I paste image in this channel?	10:07
MenZa	Oh yes, don't do that, Antagonist	10:07
MenZa	!paste \| Garbin	10:07
Bacta	join us now and share the software	10:07
ubottu	Garbin: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) \| For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts!	10:07
mara	scusate ubuntu ita?	10:07
Bacta	you'll be free hackers, you'll be freeeeeeeeeee	10:07
MenZa	!it \| mara	10:07
ubottu	mara: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)	10:07
MenZa	Bacta: Please stop that.	10:07
mara	grazie	10:07
Garbin	ubottu, thank you!	10:07
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you!	10:07
Antagonist	Will the alternate install CD allow me to install ubuntu this way?	10:07
MenZa	Antagonist: It will do, yes.	10:08
axeeffect	@anta ...alternalte is capable of upgarding	10:08
Antagonist	Okay, I'll keep looking for documentation... I was fearing that it might suffer from 'user-friendliness'	10:08
axeeffect	use a partiton manager	10:08
dutchbuntu	ActionParsnip, that was a good tip and easier to realize then you thought. Edit VPN Connection -> IPv4 Setttings -> Routes -> Check 'Use this connection only for resources on its network'. Does exactly what you described.	10:08
axeeffect	gparted live cd	10:09
axeeffect	resize partiton	10:09
Antagonist	axeeffect: Upgrading? HDD is clean atm	10:09
zsolt	make clean No rule to make target `clean'. Stop.	10:10
zsolt	this is the error message	10:10
axeeffect	ok..i thought u had 9.04	10:10
axeeffect	wat is ur ram size	10:10
axeeffect	i think u dont need a swap	10:10
n2diy	zsolt: "sudo make clean" ?	10:10
Antagonist	axeeffect: 4GB	10:11
ActionParsnip	dutchbuntu: sweet	10:11
axeeffect	try 64 bit buntu then	10:11
Antagonist	This is a bioinformatics dev machine, I will need swap space.	10:11
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zsolt	No rule to make target `clean'	10:11
llutz	n2diy: if Makefile hasn't defined "clean" even sudo wouldn't make any difference	10:11
axeeffect	u wont be able to use whole of 4gb in 32bit ubuntu	10:12
Antagonist	I downloaded the 64-bit one, it didn't see my HDD due to it at some point in its life having belonged to a RAID. Busy downloading the 64-bit alternate	10:12
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Antagonist	And yes, planning on 64-bit. Running 64-bit windows as well. I have a quad core dammit, gonna use it as it was meant to	10:12
llutz	Antagonist: you can use those 4GB when using server-kernel (pae)	10:12
nickapalooza	i'm planning to get 2x1tb in raid 5	10:12
axeeffect	cpu 64bit?	10:13
nickapalooza	yep	10:13
Antagonist	llutz: I don't understand?	10:13
inivex	nickapalooza, you need 3 disks to do raid 5....?	10:13
nickapalooza	are you sure?	10:13
inivex	mhm	10:13
llutz	Antagonist: if you use 32Bit with server-kernel, you can use all those 4GB. its a PAE kernel	10:13
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llutz	Antagonist: just install 32bit, change kernel after that	10:14
Antagonist	Oh right, well, screw 32-bit tbh	10:14
axeeffect	anta..wats the proci	10:14
axeeffect	amd?	10:14
mesaGL	i'm thinking of giving my users 10.04 lts. will it be ready in time ? and will it work ?	10:15
Antagonist	Only problem I've had with 64-bit ever have been old printer drivers. But then again to be fair, I have problems with those under 32-bit	10:15
Antagonist	axeeffect: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600	10:15
inivex	Antagonist: i'm jealous.....	10:15
axeeffect	ya even my cybershot driver doesn work in 64bit :p	10:15
Antagonist	inivex: Its 2 year old tech.	10:16
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ActionParsnip	mesaGL: its not out yet, and i wouldn't touch it	10:16
Antagonist	btw, are there problem nvidia linux drivers for GTX260? Even if its crappy binary ones	10:17
Antagonist	*proper	10:17
JediMaster	Antagonist, I'm using GTX260 in ubuntu without any problems using the nvidia binary drivers	10:17
Antagonist	JediMaster: Thanks	10:18
ActionParsnip	Antagonist: you can add the nvidia dev repo and use the 190 driver	10:18
ActionParsnip	Antagonist: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa	10:18
mesaGL	ActionParsnip: i know it's not out yet. what i'm asking is : will it be usable when it does come out ?	10:19
inivex	hey, that's cool, i didn't know nvidia had a repo	10:19
ActionParsnip	mesaGL: when its released, absolutely	10:19
ActionParsnip	Antagonist: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-190-25-beta-drivers-in-ubuntu-jauntyintrepidhardy.html here is a guide to help you install after adding the repo	10:20
mesaGL	absolutely. i see. and does karmic "absolutely" work too ?	10:20
ActionParsnip	mesaGL: its released so yes, user individual experiences may be different but essentially, yes	10:20
llutz	mesaGL: define "absolutely"	10:21
Garbin	Could anyone help me? My java-based app has some problem, problem details on http://imagebin.org/72299	10:21
whammo	does anybody know how to add audio-rt to pam?	10:22
JediMaster	I've got several virtual Ubuntu servers running on Xen hypervisor in a datacenter in the UK, yesterday the entire DC was DDOS in a huge attack and it took everything down for 2.5 hours. I'm trying to figure out how to fail over to a different data center. The only thing I can think of so far is to clone the site/database on to another machine in a different DC, and use it as secondary DNS, then check the site is up with scripts and cha	10:22
JediMaster	nge the DNS to point to the second DC should it go down (with low TTL). Any better ideas?	10:22
JediMaster	don't want to have a single point of failure, so something like a reverse proxy is out of the question as it is the single point.	10:24
ActionParsnip	JediMaster: you'd need a gateway to failover between the 2 systems	10:24
om26er	i cannot set custom resolution in ubuntu9.10 using nvidia and the driver version 185	10:24
JediMaster	ActionParsnip, single point of failure?	10:24
kostkon	Garbin, hmm. what jvm do u use?	10:24
ActionParsnip	JediMaster: could have 2, there will have to be a single point at some point, the IP of the whole thing	10:24
Garbin	kostkon, java-6-sum	10:25
kostkon	Garbin, aha ok	10:25
JediMaster	ActionParsnip, at least with my DNS based idea the only problem is a small downtime with the DNS propagation with the low TTL	10:25
ActionParsnip	JediMaster: i guess	10:25
laur	A little help please? I want to install windows on partition where i have installed Ubuntu but the windows tell me the partition is not for windows... and partiton is NTFS what should i do ?	10:26
ActionParsnip	om26er: if you run nvidia-settings are their resolutions listed?	10:26
JediMaster	how do big companies get past this issue, Google for instance must be attacked all the time but they transparently fail over to different networks without issue (I'm sure mega$$$ helps)	10:26
kostkon	Garbin, font prob maybe? do you have the "sun-java-6-fonts" installed?	10:27
kostkon	!info sun-java-6-fonts	10:27
ubottu	Package sun-java-6-fonts does not exist in karmic	10:27
om26er	ActionParsnip, 12801024 is not availble there but 1378768 is available. my lcd is 5:4	10:27
Garbin	I check it now	10:27
laur	is necessary to format the entire HDD ?	10:27
kostkon	oh right. not in karmic. hmm	10:27
ActionParsnip	om26er: ok then close the app and run: gksudo nvidia-settings	10:27
kostkon	!info sun-java6-fonts	10:27
ubottu	sun-java6-fonts (source: sun-java6): Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-15-1 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 112 kB (Only available for all amd64 i386 lpia ia64)	10:27
kostkon	yeah	10:28
ActionParsnip	om26er: set the resolution to something and click, write settings to X config file	10:28
om26er	ActionParsnip, ok	10:28
JediMaster	laur, you could delete the NTFS partition then try getting windows to setup a new partition there	10:28
ActionParsnip	om26er: you can then run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit te res to what you wish	10:28
laur	yah i try this but the win installer tell me is not a valid windows partition...	10:28
laur	and i formated with windows in install mode	10:28
fabietto^	Hi everybody! is there any possibility for make the scroll of a page (for example in firefox) with the double click on the touch pad?	10:29
Garbin	kostkon, I've installed it just now, but the problem still here.	10:30
kostkon	Garbin, :(	10:30
Garbin	wait, I do a double check for the jvm version.	10:31
om26er	ActionParsnip, ok i set it to 1280*1024 in the xorg.conf and then rebooted but still no change	10:31
ActionParsnip	om26er: did you change the xorg.conf file before rebooting?	10:31
laur	i think i will delete all partiton.... :\|	10:31
ActionParsnip	om26er: hmm weird	10:31
om26er	ActionParsnip, yes i did	10:31
ActionParsnip	om26er: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file	10:32
zsolt	my problem solved with an svn repo	10:32
Garbin	My /usr/lib/jvm/default-java link to java-6-openjdk	10:32
zsolt	thank you so much	10:32
laur	oke let's try another problem..	10:32
kostkon	Garbin, aha	10:32
Garbin	sorry~!	10:32
laur	with the MKV video file.. (hd movies)	10:32
kostkon	Garbin, you can run the java update alternatives cmd if oyu want	10:32
kostkon	Garbin, to have the sun java as the default jvm	10:33
Skunk8709	I have a question	10:33
laur	it's blank window (black) and the sound running..	10:33
laur	yah me 2	10:33
kostkon	!ask ! Skunk8709	10:33
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ask ! Skunk8709	10:33
kostkon	!ask \| Skunk8709	10:33
ubottu	Skunk8709: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	10:33
Garbin	how can I do? remove the openjdk?	10:33
kostkon	Garbin, no, w8	10:34
jongie	Garbin: sudo apt-get --purge remove open-jdk	10:34
zsolt	is it possible to restore my Os to original?	10:34
Garbin	ok	10:34
kostkon	Garbin, give this in a terminal: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun	10:34
kostkon	Garbin, so simple	10:34
laur	how install nvidia 190 driver ? i have 185.18.36	10:34
Skunk8709	Is it possible to run Ubuntu 9.04 on my Dell Studio One 19 Desktop and still retain the touchscreen functions?	10:34
Garbin	kostkon, OK	10:34
ActionParsnip	laur: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html	10:35
jongie	hi, im looking for internet cafe management software, which one would you recommend?	10:35
laur	tnx ActionParsnip	10:35
ActionParsnip	Skunk8709: sure as long as you can configure it the same	10:35
ha1331	Skunk8709: I got touch screen working on my hp laptop.	10:35
Antagonist	jongie: Point of sale software?	10:35
hugo_	My login window is wrong resolution. I tried startupmanager but to no avail. Where can I manually edit the resolution. I'm using 9.10	10:35
Garbin	kostkon, cant't found the package open-jdk	10:36
kostkon	Garbin, eh?	10:36
Skunk8709	I do have the drivers disk I believe but this microsoft shovel crap of a disk isn't labeled as the actual touchscreen drivers	10:36
Fenrir_	h	10:36
Fenrir_	hi	10:36
kostkon	Garbin, what do you mean? is this an error msg?	10:36
Garbin	yes	10:36
hugo_	hi	10:36
jongie	Antagonist: no, a management software that is used to manage workstations in your cafe, that keeps track of your computer usage, lock workstations etc..	10:36
Garbin	kostkon, is that package names "openjdk-6-jre"?	10:36
kostkon	Garbin, what are you trying to do?	10:37
Skunk8709	Action Parsnip: I do have the drivers disk I believe but this microsoft shovel crap of a disk isn't labeled as the actual touchscreen drivers	10:37
Antagonist	jongie: Ah, missed the critical internet part in internet cafe :P Sorry, dunno	10:37
Garbin	I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get --purge remove open-jdk"	10:37
Garbin	kostkon, I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get --purge remove open-jdk"	10:37
kostkon	Garbin, you don;t need to	10:37
ActionParsnip	Skunk8709: i suggest you run the liveCD and experimet, you should also websearch for guides with regard to your lappy model, see if its supported	10:37
kostkon	Garbin, just run the above cmd i gave you	10:37
Fenrir_	How do I remove a ppp connection like ppp0, ppp1, ppp2 ...?	10:37
kostkon	Garbin, if you want to use the sun jvm	10:37
Skunk8709	ActionParsnip: It's a desktop not a laptop	10:38
Garbin	OK, I try it.	10:38
little_wu0	....	10:38
ricree	I'm having sound sound issues since the upgrade to 9.10. Certain programs such as rhythmbox have very slow and choppy sound, while others such as VLC work absolutely fine. Any suggestions on how to fix this?	10:38
Skunk8709	Action Parsnip: I have tried many searches for my particular and came up empty handed	10:38
Skunk8709	Problem*	10:39
laur	ActionParsnip why i can't view MKV video file ? the screen is black and sound is running... PC config: 2 GB ram ddr2 \| Core 2 Duo 3.0 GHZ \| Nvidia GForece 7300/7500 GS	10:39
l43a2	use VLC	10:39
l43a2	it should play fine in that	10:39
ActionParsnip	Skunk8709: then websearch the make/model of the device you are using	10:40
laur	@ same with SMpalyer \| VLC \| MPlayer	10:40
ActionParsnip	laur: codecs?	10:40
laur	wich codecs ?	10:40
kostkon	ricree, er, which apps exactly?	10:40
Garbin	kostkon, thank you very much, the problem has gone!!!!	10:40
kostkon	ricree, all of them, except vlc?	10:41
kostkon	Garbin, :)	10:41
laur	which*	10:41
laur	N/A	10:41
laur	i think...	10:41
Garbin	thank you again:)	10:41
ActionParsnip	!codecs \| laur	10:41
ubottu	laur: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	10:41
ricree	kostkon: so far, I've noticed the problem with rhythmbox, banshee, and pidgin. Totem, VLC, and flash video sound all seem to work fine	10:41
kostkon	ricree, :/	10:41
kostkon	ricree, ok. hmm	10:41
ricree	kostkon: Also, mp3s work fine on VLC, so I don't think it's a codec issue	10:41
kostkon	ricree, it's not, yeah	10:41
wers	how do i make evolution download read messages? I have a couple of messages in my corporate email. the thing is, i cant access them on evolution because they're marked as read on outlook	10:41
kostkon	ricree, hmm	10:42
Fenrir_	I have problems with my pppoe connection in ubuntu 9.10	10:42
kostkon	ricree, it's an upgrade, so	10:42
ricree	kostkon: My best guess was a library issue somewhere since it's limited to certain programs, but I'm not sure how to track it down past that	10:42
kostkon	ricree, first thing you could try is to delete the .pulse folder in your home, if there is one, then logout and login again	10:42
ActionParsnip	ricree: killall pulseaudio; rm -rf ~/.pulse* then reboot	10:43
laur	oke how install bin files ?	10:44
ActionParsnip	laur: chmod +x file; ./file	10:44
SquarePi	somthing is wrong with Ubuntu Karmic. I can play movies, including full HD movies, on windows smoothly but not on Ubuntu. :-(	10:44
simulation	hello guys	10:44
simulation	how can i use $_GET variables in theme :S	10:45
ActionParsnip	SquarePi: have you ran: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras	10:45
simulation	i cant access the $_GET	10:45
ricree	I deleted the .pulse folder and logged out and in. No difference	10:45
kostkon	ricree, hmm ok	10:45
simulation	sorry wrong chan :)	10:45
SquarePi	ActionParsnip, no, I am playing my videos using vlc but those are just codecs	10:45
ActionParsnip	SquarePi: yes, you will need codecs to play certain files	10:46
kostkon	ricree, ah, it could be a gstreamer related prob	10:46
ActionParsnip	SquarePi: if you don't have codecs, you cant play the file	10:46
SquarePi	ActionParsnip, if I don't have the codecs, they won't play at all. since I can play them I have the codecs	10:46
ricree	kostkon: any suggestions on how to start checking whether it is?	10:46
ActionParsnip	SquarePi: have you installed and configured video drivers?	10:46
RiotingPacifist	which lame -V setting is about 96kbs? or where can i look up this sort of data, it's not in the man	10:47
SquarePi	ActionParsnip, yes, nvidia driver	10:47
kostkon	ricree, first of all, try going to pidgin's sound prefs and check which driver is selected.	10:47
ActionParsnip	SquarePi: is it the same in other media players, like mplayer?	10:47
SquarePi	haven't tried mplayer yet	10:47
ricree	kostkon: automatic	10:48
kostkon	ricree, what other options do you have?	10:48
ActionParsnip	SquarePi: you could also try adding the medibuntu repo and installing w32codecs (or w64codecs if you re using 64bit ubuntu)	10:48
Andorin	I'm trying to manually mount my flash drive because Ubuntu doesn't want to auto-mount it anymore... when I type "sudo mount /dev/sdf /mount/point" it tells me I have to specify a file system type. What's the syntax?	10:48
ActionParsnip	SquarePi: may be an issue with vlc, if it works in other players then its a vlc issue	10:48
ricree	kostkon: ESD, ALSA, Command	10:48
kostkon	ricree, ok. change it to alsa	10:49
kostkon	packages.ubuntu.com is down :S	10:50
ricree	kostkon: Hmm... it seems to be working now	10:50
kostkon	ricree, pidgin's sound?	10:50
ricree	kostkon: pidgin, that is	10:50
Andorin	Guys, I know that the system is recognizing it as a flash drive because both dmesg and lsusb list the name of the flash drive. I just can't browse or modify the files. I assume this is a mount problem?	10:50
kostkon	ricree, ok	10:51
kostkon	ricree, now for the rest	10:51
ricree	kostkon: one sec, I'm going to close it and reopen	10:51
kostkon	ricree, ok	10:51
ricree	kostkon: since that was the only sound I know for sure was bugged before	10:51
ActionParsnip	Andorin: can you see the partition in the output of: sudo fdisk -l	10:51
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Yes.	10:51
opossum_oisif	hi, how do I install aptana on ubuntu?	10:52
ActionParsnip	Andorin: and if you run: mount can you see the partition mounted?	10:52
disappearedng	any tools to visualize xml data in the command line?	10:52
ricree	Ok, yeah, pidgin sound is working now	10:52
ActionParsnip	!info aptana	10:52
ubottu	Package aptana does not exist in karmic	10:52
stimpie	Iam looking for panel or script to easily confure domains on apache2+exim, could somebody recommend something simple?	10:52
X3	hello boys girls and undecided	10:53
ActionParsnip	opossum_oisif: you could find a PPA for it	10:53
X3	actionParsnip hi just the man	10:53
opossum_oisif	ActionParsnip, what is a PPA?	10:53
ActionParsnip	!ppa \| opossum_oisif	10:53
ubottu	opossum_oisif: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.	10:53
Andorin	ActionParsnip: No, I don't see it in the list.	10:53
X3	google ppa searc	10:53
opossum_oisif	ActionParsnip, hum thx a lot!	10:53
X3	8search	10:53
ActionParsnip	Andorin: then you will need to mount it manually	10:53
Andorin	Hoo boy.	10:54
ricree	kostkon: pidgin sound works when set to ALSA	10:54
ActionParsnip	!mount \| Andorin	10:54
ubottu	Andorin: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount	10:54
kostkon	ricree, :)	10:54
ricree	kostkon: and now to see about getting that for the media players	10:55
kostkon	ricree, yeah	10:55
kostkon	ricree, now, could you press alt+f2	10:55
X3	ActionParsnip: I have a grub2 upgrade from legacy it boot works fine except is I issue update-grub I get a silly error : not foundt/grub: 7:	10:55
kostkon	ricree, and give: gstreamer-properties	10:55
ActionParsnip	X3: not sure, ask the channel	10:55
ActionParsnip	!grub2 \| x3	10:56
kostkon	ricree, ah, just wanted to ask, you are running pulse, right?	10:56
ubottu	x3: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	10:56
X3	erm I have done that thx	10:56
X3	theres no mention of that error anywhere	10:56
kostkon	ricree, i am askign in case that you have removed for some reason	10:56
kostkon	removed it*	10:56
aaron11	Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot	10:56
kostkon	ricree, did the gst properties window open?	10:57
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Alright. I'm looking at the instructions, and trying them. When I run "sudo mount /device/location /mount/point" I get an error: it wants me to specify a filetype.	10:57
X3	Anyone pls I have a grub2 upgrade from legacy it boot ok, works fine except is I issue update-grub I get a silly error : not foundt/grub: 7:	10:57
ricree	kostkon: yeah, but it didn't work for me in 9.04, so my guess is that this is some holdover from getting sound to work then	10:57
ricree	kostkon: yeah	10:57
X3	theres no such error documented	10:57
kostkon	ricree, w8. you removed it?	10:57
ActionParsnip	Andorin: you need to make a new folder to mount to: sudo mkdir /media/usb for example	10:57
ricree	kostkon: I didn't remove it, but I set everything to use OSS	10:58
aaron11	Does http://pysqlite.org/ exist?	10:58
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Done.	10:58
ActionParsnip	Andorin: you then mount using: sudo mount /dev/partition_name /media/usb -o uid=1000 and you'll be ok. change partition_name to whatever the partition is named (e.g. /dev/sdb1)	10:58
Andorin	Oh, gee, another channel troll.	10:58
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kostkon	ricree, ah. intereting then. it could be that the option to use oss for gst apps on 9.04 remained also on 9.10	10:58
PhantomLink	!ops Jenelle is sending spam and viruses	10:58
ronald__	hello there!what kind of linux that match for gateway M520? because i use ubuntu the problem is they have no audio sound.,	10:59
PhantomLink	oh heh nice	10:59
opossum_oisif	ActionParsnip, how and where do I browse ppa?	10:59
chelz	hat was a pretty fast kline	10:59
kostkon	ricree, thus, alt+f2, give: gstreamer-properties and then in the audio tab	10:59
PhantomLink	ya	10:59
user01	can s.o. kick her?	10:59
Andorin	ActionParsnip: I still get the "you must specify the filesystem type" message.	10:59
X3	Anyone pls I have a grub2 works ok I get this on command update-grub : not foundt/grub: 7:	10:59
aaron11	Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot	10:59
ActionParsnip	ronald__: then run: sudo lshw -C sound and websearch for guides to setup your sound	10:59
ricree	kostkon: the plugin was set to oss in the selector. I've switched it over to pulseaudio now	10:59
kostkon	ricree, in the default output, change the plugin to alsa or pulse. whichever is available	10:59
kostkon	ricree, nice	10:59
kostkon	ricree, now you should be fine	10:59
chelz	what's the hotkey to open a terminal in karmic?	10:59
ActionParsnip	ronald__: there is no specific linux for the vast array of branded systems, it not feasible	10:59
ricree	kostkon: sound still seems choppy. Will this need a reboot or new login to work?	10:59
kostkon	ricree, test your apps now	10:59
kostkon	ricree, eh, you could logout and login	11:00
PhantomLink	jenelle was trying to send me porn	11:00
aaron11	chelz: There is none	11:00
kostkon	ricree, also, what is selected for defauilt input?	11:00
X3	chelz: google or add it to panel	11:00
ricree	kostkon: don't recall, but I also set it to pulseaudio	11:00
aaron11	PhantomLink: He send somthing about mother spanking a kid	11:00
PhantomLink	probably just virus filled video files, but heh we use linux	11:00
chelz	dang, alt+t was great in 8.10	11:00
DJones	PhantomLink: Its a spammer thats been dealt with by freenode staff	11:00
eviltoaster_3e	PhantomLink, me 2 :S	11:00
m1dlg	why has this irc become the target for this spam/hack attack lately? none of the other ones i'm on is	11:01
kostkon	ricree, logout and login. if again you have choppy sound, run the gst properties again and set	11:01
kostkon	:S	11:01
ActionParsnip	m1dlg: freenode is the largest irc network available	11:01
aaron11	Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot	11:01
m1dlg	oh, logical	11:01
PhantomLink	his/her stupid windows virus can't touch us	11:01
* PhantomLink plays mc hammer - can't touch this XD		11:01
eviltoaster_3e	and all files come from this channels users, tell me why :P	11:01
m1dlg	I thought that too :)	11:01
ActionParsnip	PhantomLink: can with me right now (xp work lappy)	11:01
PhantomLink	ActionParsnip: dirty laptop	11:02
ronald__	ActionParsnip: so wht can i do now?	11:02
aaron11	!ot \| PhantomLink	11:02
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Did you see my last message?	11:02
ubottu	PhantomLink: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	11:02
PhantomLink	clean it up !	11:02
[JackD]	what is it with people trying to send files in this room ?	11:02
PhantomLink	yeah, sorry, got carried away	11:02
ActionParsnip	PhantomLink: our bespoke products wont run on anything else, linux is worthless to me in this instance	11:02
PhantomLink	aww	11:02
eviltoaster_3e	best i quit this channel, dont even use ubuntu ^^	11:03
ohnoes	ActionParsnip: it appears that my whole system is in an inconsitent state. Are you sure that the alternate installer will overwrite all the base libs and programs?	11:03
PhantomLink	you should use a windoze VM	11:03
PhantomLink	in fullscreen mode	11:03
PhantomLink	then they won't know XD	11:03
ActionParsnip	PhantomLink: so if i ran linux i wouldnt be able to work would I.	11:03
aaron11	PhantomLink: Ose offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic	11:03
ActionParsnip	PhantomLink: then why bother running 2 OSes when I can use just one and get the same thing	11:03
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PhantomLink	ActionParsnip: not sure, just spouted a random idea there :D	11:04
aaron11	Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot	11:04
ActionParsnip	its massively flawed	11:04
ohnoes	User mahaju spams me:	11:04
simplexio	ohnoes: do you want reisntall all packages ?	11:04
siliconmeadow	how do I enable autocomplete in my terminal window, e.g. type '*z' and it files in at somefile.tgz (provided somefile.tgz is the only file in the directory ending in z)?	11:04
skfet	use tab?	11:05
PhantomLink	question: is this channel where the ubermassive BOUNCEATTACK.TXT dcc flood came from? (just curious) ( i had to kill xchat to get it to go away )	11:05
X3	aaron11 type aptitude and when it loads do / andsearch	11:05
ohnoes	simplexio: I want a system that gives me a root shell with networking + a working package database,	11:05
X3	wrong window :/	11:05
aaron11	X3: Will sudo apt-get install pysqlite work?	11:05
Andorin	Argh...	11:05
siliconmeadow	skfet: sorry - yes I meant to say - i can't get the tab to work to do that	11:05
Will123456	hey guys. quick question: for a 1.6 ghz single core AMD XP with a gig of DDR RAM, is it worth going to xubuntu just for a quick boost of speed? it's fine running ubuntu but can struggle with some websites, esp. if there's quite a few tabs up. (i've read that xubuntu is quicker than ubuntu but actually not THAT much quicker, not as much as they make out anyway)	11:05
ohnoes	simplexio: I type slowly, because of another keyboard layout.	11:05
X3	aaron11 if the rpos exit yes	11:06
aaron11	ok	11:06
X3	aaron11 if the repos exist yes	11:06
carverm	My Jaunty installation broke after a recent package update. Greeter application is crashing now. Is this best channel to try for help?	11:06
SquarePi	Will123456, stick with Ubuntu	11:06
GNU\colossus	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8346752#post8346752 - help please (definitely takes some experience with HAL and Xorg)	11:06
ricree	kostkon: no change after a reboot	11:06
kostkon	Will123456, i'm sure the slowness it flash related	11:06
ActionParsnip	Will123456: xubuntu will be more responsive but i've ran a full kde system on a similar rig	11:06
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Flash drive still will not mount.......	11:07
X3	anyone know about this grub2 error : not foundt/grub: 7:	11:07
kostkon	ricree, you didn't have to reboot. but anyway, run again the gst properties app and change the default output from pulse to alsa	11:07
simplexio	ohnoes: check msg	11:07
* PhantomLink hugs ActionParsnip - hopefully work will be over soon so you can get back into the wonderful world of linux		11:07
X3	theres no documentation on that	11:07
ricree	kostkon: tried that as well already	11:07
kostkon	ricree, same?	11:07
PhantomLink	;)	11:08
ricree	kostkon: yeah	11:08
ActionParsnip	Andorin: thats the sort of command you need, if its moaing about type then rerun the fdisk command, if its ntfs formatted then add: -t ntfs-3g if its FAT based then use: -t vfat	11:08
PhantomLink	anywho...i'll be in ot	11:08
kostkon	ricree, could you check that you have the gstreamer-pulseaudio-something package?	11:08
mahaju	im new to linux	11:08
kostkon	!info gstreamer-pulseaudio	11:08
ubottu	Package gstreamer-pulseaudio does not exist in karmic	11:08
mahaju	i need to learn how to use it	11:08
ActionParsnip	PhantomLink: both are fine for me, i can do what i do in either OS. I only web browse and chat so I use linux as its free	11:08
kostkon	:?	11:08
mahaju	could any one please help me out?	11:08
ricree	!info gstreamer0.10-pusleaudio	11:09
ubottu	Package gstreamer0.10-pusleaudio does not exist in karmic	11:09
Will123456	kostkon: yeah, it is. adblock plus for FF improves things greatly.	11:09
ricree	odd, showing up in synaptic	11:09
ActionParsnip	Andorin: so the command would be: sudo mount /dev/partition_name -t vfat /media/usb -o uid=1000	11:09
ricree	kostkon: but yeah, it's installed	11:09
kostkon	Will123456, indeed	11:09
carverm	Mahaju - you might start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/getting-started.html	11:09
ActionParsnip	Andorin: for example, you'll need to change the partition_name and type if its not vfat	11:09
Will123456	ActionParsnip: thanks, i guess i may as well stick with ubuntu then (it's for my mum and she's more familiar with gnome) :)	11:10
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Right, right... trying it now.	11:10
kostkon	ricree, eh, which device is selected in gst properties in default output	11:10
ricree	kostkon: the odd thing is, when I hit the test in gstreamer properties and OSS is selected, it sounds just like my problem. But both ALSA and PulseAudio work fine	11:10
carverm	Mahaju - sorry, try this link instead https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/newtoubuntu/C/index.html	11:10
ricree	kostkon: So it's like it's ignoring the gstreamer-properties and going with OSS anyways	11:10
kostkon	ricree, but your apps still sound choppy	11:10
ActionParsnip	Will123456: cool, if she likes it then stick with it, user interface familiarity an all	11:10
kostkon	ricree, then, hmm	11:11
Andorin	ActionParsnip: ARGHH! It's still rejecting the command.	11:11
kostkon	ricree, yeah, it could be	11:11
ActionParsnip	Andorin: you get the idea, just tweak and tweak until its good, there are lots of guides online	11:11
X3	well thx for no help at all dont have a clew why this channel exists the questions asked mostly here are n00bish when someone asks a real question noone knows sod all	11:11
kostkon	ricree, try this, just to make sure. w8	11:11
ActionParsnip	Andorin: if you use http://pastebin.com to give the output of: sudo fdisk -l I can give te command	11:11
Andorin	ActionParsnip: k	11:11
carverm	The greeter application is crashing in my Jaunty installation after I allowed Update Manager to update packages recently. I've done lots of web searching to no avail. Can anyone assist? : )	11:12
Will123456	X3: what was your question?	11:12
Will123456	oh	11:12
Will123456	he's gone	11:12
Andorin	ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d67c3c9fc	11:12
kostkon	ricree, eh, do you have anything in .config/totem?	11:12
ricree	kostkon: no	11:13
ActionParsnip	Andorin: ok the partition is /dev/sdf1	11:13
ricree	kostkon: wait, nm. was in the wrong folder	11:13
ricree	kostkon: there's a state.ini	11:13
kostkon	ricree, ok. check in .gnome2	11:14
kostkon	ricree, do you have a totem_config file?	11:14
ActionParsnip	Andorin: sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/usb -t vfat -o uid=1000	11:14
kostkon	ricree, or a totem file	11:14
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ricree	kostkon: totem's one of the programs that works. Would it likely make a difference?	11:14
kostkon	ricree, ah, totem works	11:14
mahaju	Could anybody please helpme?	11:14
kostkon	ricree, tell me again the ones that don't work	11:14
chelz	mahaju: whatcha need?	11:15
ActionParsnip	Andorin: this has a vfat guide too: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/	11:15
ricree	kostkon: rhythmbox and banshee are the only two I can confirm at the moment. Also, banshee wasn't installed until the issues cropped up with rhythmbox, so I don't see it being a config issue with that program	11:15
kostkon	ricree, ok	11:16
ricree	kostkon: My guess is that I've screwed up the config for gstreamer somehow, but I'm not sure how	11:16
kostkon	ricree, both are gstreamer apps, yeah	11:16
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Now take a look at this http://pastebin.com/d7eb3f949	11:16
kostkon	ricree, but totem is a gst app too	11:16
kostkon	ricree, hmm	11:16
carverm	The greeter application is crashing in my Jaunty installation after I allowed Update Manager to update packages recently. I've done lots of web searching to troubleshoot, but gnome desktop is hosed. Can anyone assist? : )	11:17
ActionParsnip	Andorin: ok has this stick been in a windows sstem before putting it in your linux system?	11:17
kostkon	ricree, eh, what device is selected in gst properties, in the default output section	11:17
ricree	kostkon: like I said before, it's almost like those apps are ignoring the settings from gstreamer-properties. I'm not sure what would cause that	11:17
ricree	kostkon: one sec	11:17
kostkon	ricree, there should be a drop down below the plugin one	11:18
ricree	kostkon: default at the moment	11:18
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Yes, but not for a while now. Um, if it helps, I was experimenting with TrueCrypt in order to get the hang of it using this flash drive... so that might have something to do with why I can't mount it?	11:18
kostkon	ricree, aha. what other options are availablwe to selet?	11:18
ricree	kostkon: STAC92xx Analog and STAC92xx Digital are the other options	11:18
ActionParsnip	Andorin: did you just rip the device out of the system or did you use the saftely remove hardware function in windows?	11:18
ricree	kostkon: and NVIDIA HDMI	11:18
kostkon	ricree, hmm. then, select the analog one	11:18
Andorin	Oh my God. >_<	11:18
ronald__	how to unlock this /var/lib/dpkg/lock??	11:19
ActionParsnip	Andorin: ?	11:19
cookie_	hi everybody	11:19
kostkon	ricree, and test your apps again	11:19
ActionParsnip	ronald__: close synaptic	11:19
ricree	kostkon: not at first. Going to try relogging	11:19
ronald__	how i close the synaptic?	11:19
cankoy	carverm: can you log in from console?	11:19
carverm	Cankoy - yes I can	11:19
Andorin	ActionParsnip: I'm really sorry for wasting your time. This WAS a TrueCrypt thing- if I have the drive formatted the way I do then I have to mount it myself with TrueCrypt. I just got it to work. At least now I know more about mount..... again, sorry for the time waste.	11:19
ActionParsnip	ronald__: its a window on the desktop, like gedit or openoffice	11:20
cookie_	how to change vdi type form fixed-size image to dynamically expanding image ?	11:20
ActionParsnip	Andorin: you got the gold, thats all that matters:)	11:20
ActionParsnip	Andorin: you also learned the mount command some which is good, many users can't	11:20
cankoy	carverm: tried any apt-get commands?	11:20
ActionParsnip	ronald__: only 1 app can access the packages at once	11:20
carverm	cankoy: I've tried apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. One sec and I'll type error I got when running update	11:21
ricree	kostkon: no change	11:21
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Yeah, it doesn't seem too difficult in principle... this drive just magically wouldn't mount. Which, for TrueCrypt's purposes, is actually rather nice. Thanks for your help.	11:21
ActionParsnip	ronald__: if synaptic isnt running and you are not installing any packages then you can run this:	11:21
ActionParsnip	!aptfix \| ronald__	11:21
ubottu	ronald__: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	11:21
kostkon	ricree, :/	11:21
Gab_	hi	11:21
cankoy	carverm: first do an 'apt-get clean' before them	11:21
carverm	cankoy: ok, sec	11:21
Acegi	Hi, quick question. What command do I use to detect what wireless module is in use?	11:21
kostkon	ricree, you could try reinstalling gst	11:21
conb123	How do i get my bottom window bar back after i removed it to make way for awn?	11:21
cookie_	conb123, you have to add it manually	11:22
conb123	cookie_: Oh man that's annoying	11:22
carverm	cankoy: did apt-get clean, then apt-get update. no problems there. when running apt-get upgrade it wants to upgrade some, I select "y" and I get an error when trying to upgrade totem-common	11:22
ActionParsnip	conb123: right click desktop -> add panel	11:22
Gab_	programs are erased to clear the wine?	11:22
kostkon	ricree, but it's strange yeah. do you have a 4th gst app you could test? :D	11:23
ricree	kostkon: I'll give that a try	11:23
conb123	Actionparsnip: Yeah got it just thought i could maybe do something like dpkg-reconfigure	11:23
ricree	kostkon: can you think of any off the top of your head?	11:23
Irakirashia	How do I set the common home folder permissions for my account?	11:23
ActionParsnip	conb123: nar, much simpler	11:23
kostkon	ricree, :(	11:23
cankoy	carverm: can you pastebin please? (as many lines as possible)	11:23
carverm	cankoy: "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/totem-common_2.26.1-0ubuntu5.1_all.deb	11:23
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ActionParsnip	Irakirashia: cd /home; ls -la ./$USER	11:23
cookie_	anyone know how to change VDI disk type in VirtualBox?	11:23
ricree	kostkon: anyways, reinstalling gstreamer right now, maybe that will help	11:24
ActionParsnip	cookie_: have you asked in #vbox ?	11:24
carverm	cankoy: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpks returned an error code (1)"	11:24
kostkon	ricree, yeah	11:24
ActionParsnip	carverm: if you use http://pastebin you can give the whole output	11:24
cookie_	o thanks, i don't know, that this channel exist	11:24
Irakirashia	ActionParsnip I want to set, not to see :P	11:24
MenZa	ActionParsnip: Your link sorta broke.	11:24
Irakirashia	ActionParsnip I just forgot the correct number to do the chmod -R	11:24
ActionParsnip	Irakirashia: do you want to change the owner?	11:25
emergion	ss	11:25
Irakirashia	ActionParsnip Uhm, maybe changing the owner will do, thanks, I'll do it	11:25
carverm	ActionParsnip: I'm in this chat session on another comp. Not sure how to use pastebin from the command line of the broken ubuntu box?	11:25
ActionParsnip	Irakirashia: theres no usiversal as some files may need to be executable, others may not	11:25
Irakirashia	ActionParsnip I just mod +x any executable ween needed	11:25
ActionParsnip	Irakirashia: cd /home; sudo chown $USER:$USER ./$USER	11:25
ActionParsnip	oops	11:26
conb123	ActionParsnip: Right so what exactly do i need on the bar again, window list, show desktop button, that's it isn't it?	11:26
ActionParsnip	Irakirashia: cd /home; sudo chown -R$USER:$USER ./$USER	11:26
ActionParsnip	add a space between -R and chown	11:26
ActionParsnip	and $USER	11:26
ActionParsnip	Irakirashia: cd /home; sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ./$USER is what you need	11:26
Irakirashia	Thanks ActionParsnip ;)	11:27
ActionParsnip	Irakirashia: if you use a recursive chmod you may remove the executable permissions where it is needed, the owner will have the right access for writability	11:27
Irakirashia	I know ActionParsnip, don't worry, I just woke up and forgot that chown existed :P	11:28
administrator_	7list	11:28
cookie_	aghr on #vbox nobody is active, so i ask again: How to change VDI type form fixed-size image to dynamically expanding image?	11:28
Werztron	Hi	11:29
aaron11	!help	11:29
[[Rx-BOT]]	aaron11: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.	11:29
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	11:29
aaron11	What the hell!	11:30
cookie_	?	11:30
aaron11	!help	11:30
[[Rx-BOT]]	aaron11: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.	11:30
m_tadeu	hi everyone.....how can I get the supported resolutions for my nvidia card/driver?	11:30
llutz	cookie_: it seems you cannot, maybe look at this http://forum.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23566	11:30
[[Rx-BOT]]	<http://ln-s.net/4bKG> (at forum.virtualbox.org)	11:31
cookie_	llutz, thanks, I'll see this	11:31
rashed2020	What is this [[Rx-BOT]] thing?	11:31
ActionParsnip	not seen it before	11:31
aaron11	:P looks like a bot	11:31
llutz	may one of the ops kick that f... bot please?	11:31
aaron11	!ops	11:31
ubottu	Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	11:31
[[Rx-BOT]]	aaron11: Error: "ops" is not a valid command.	11:31
rashed2020	Really? That's an emergency?	11:32
aaron11	[[Rx-BOT]]: Is a problem	11:32
[[Rx-BOT]]	aaron11: Error: "Is" is not a valid command.	11:32
kostkon	rashed2020, it's not?	11:32
rashed2020	I wouldn't even call this urgent.	11:32
cankoy	cookie_: there's no direct way, but you can clone it using VBoxManage clonehd ...	11:32
aaron11	kick please	11:32
cookie_	cankoy, again?? oh god, i convert it from .raw	11:33
djdarkman	hello, can someone tell me how can I disable this harddrive naging servirce completely?	11:33
carverm	cankoy: Since my ubuntu box is at the command line and this chat is from another comp, what is the best way to get you the info you need to assist?	11:34
cankoy	cookie_: there's no in-place fixed<->dynamic conversion. You need to clone it using the command I specified, see vbox manual for details.	11:34
ActionParsnip	djdarkman: not aware of such a service	11:35
djdarkman	it's something called gdu-notification	11:35
djdarkman	it always tells that the harddrive is failing	11:35
cookie_	cankoy, yes i use it, but i'm bit strange about this	11:36
ActionParsnip	djdarkman: have you fsck'd the drive. Maybe a test with the manufacturers testing tool will clear it up	11:36
ActionParsnip	djdarkman: seems to be a daemon process, you could disable it	11:36
conb123	Ohhhh what is that command in ubuntu for sending messages to other users on the network?	11:36
cankoy	carverm: the first error you posted implies you did not run 'apt-get clean'	11:36
carverm	cankoy: I did. Happy to run it again	11:37
cankoy	carverm: then update, followed by upgrade	11:37
carverm	cankoy: apt-get clean has been run (just now). apt-get update runs fine also	11:38
carverm	cankoy: apt-get upgrade indicates totem-common will be upgraded. When I accept with "y" is when it tries to upgrade and generates the error	11:38
ActionParsnip	conb123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288042 is like net send	11:38
suigeneris	ActionParsnip, the same thing happens	11:38
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ActionParsnip	suigeneris: does aboutplugins say its 10.1 ?	11:39
redliner	i've installed UNR but button of wireless card isn't working in a right way	11:39
cankoy	carverm: then manually remove that file under /var/cache/apt/... and try upgrade again	11:39