[00:00] <digitalfiz> wuffi600, i had that happen i just ran update again and it cleared up
[00:00] <mleger> hello, this might be a stupid question, but has anyone installed chromium browser? is it stable and safe to use on ubuntu?
[00:00] <thiebaude> mleger, i use chrome and very stable
[00:00] <thiebaude> its
[00:01] <randomusr> mleger, chromium is evil
[00:01] <mleger> randomusr why?
[00:01] <mleger> thiebaude it's not an official release right? its just based on the source code of chrome?
[00:01] <randomusr> data miner seeking everything you do
[00:01] <thiebaude> mleger, exactly
[00:01] <wuffi600> digitalfiz, i've run it maybe then times but always get the same errormessage: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[00:02] <mleger> thiebaude, I'll give it a try... thanks!
[00:02] <thiebaude> np
[00:02] <choreal> screw it ill just remove python and reinstall
[00:02] <randomusr> chromium is the devil
[00:02] <archet45> Error unmounting: umount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[00:02] <archet45> umount: only root can unmount /dev/sdb2 from /media/sdb2
[00:02] <archet45> anyone recognize that error message when mounting/unmounting a drive?
[00:02] <Pino> hola
[00:03] <mementomori> hi
[00:03] <mleger> randomusr, why do you say that?
[00:03] <renz> just installed karmic - having a strange problem with sound, every so often it cuts out completely, have to mute/unmute to get sound back
[00:03] <drink_sti> is it possible to run the ubuntu iso in windows? stupid question i know but just wondering...
[00:03] <mementomori> drink_sti: use it inside a virtual machine
[00:03] <wuffi600> can i temporarily disable the key-verification when doing a "aptitude update" or "apt-get update"?
[00:03] <renz> drink_sti: using a vm, yep, try vmware
[00:03] <drink_sti> thanks
[00:04] <chad_> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[00:04] <drink_sti> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a hp pavillion laptop?
[00:04] <Sogorukuhn> Hi @ all
[00:04] <wojciechorama> Guys what is mon0 and is it possible to change value of it ?
[00:05] <Sogorukuhn> Is it possible to use different wallpapers on different desktops?
[00:05] <thiebaude> Sogorukuhn, i haven't found a way to
[00:06] <Sogorukuhn> =(
[00:06] <thiebaude> Sogorukuhn, yea, i know
[00:07] <Sogorukuhn> At the moment I try to customize the Style of my Gnome
[00:07] <Sogorukuhn> Any ideas how to make it more individual?
[00:07] <drink_sti> is vmware free?
[00:08] <barnaclebarnes> my mysql server won't start and from what I've investigated so far it is becasue my loop back interface isn't up. Trying to run sudo ifup lo I get these errors - http://gist.github.com/239161 Any ideas of what is going wrong?
[00:08] <thiebaude> !theme
[00:08] <pipegeek> drink_sti: beer, not speech
[00:08] <thiebaude> !emerald
[00:09] <pipegeek> drink_sti: and it depends on the version
[00:09] <zopiac> the icon for my Blender launcher in Cairo-dock is not letting me change it, can anyone help??
[00:09] <Sogorukuhn> thx
[00:10] <thiebaude> what is the supported alternative to emerald?
[00:10] <drink_sti> pipegeek: im on the vmware site and there are so many options. which one should i use to run this program?
[00:11] <syrius> how safe is it to install a program with a install script .sh to install it with?
[00:11] <randomusr> I-am-On-WinXP; I'm sorry to hear that
[00:11] <syrius> it downloads the programs need to comoile
[00:12] <pipegeek> drink_sti: what do you want to do?  If you want to set up a new vm (if you don't have a prebuilt vm image) you probably want vmware server, which is free as in beer
[00:12] <syrius> randomusr there is no windows version for current cinepaint
[00:12] <Sogorukuhn> One more question about the wallpaper. I have 2 monitors at the office and the nvidia driver. Both monitors are configured in the nvidia driver as 1 and when I set a wallpaper it looks not so good. Is there another way as dublicate the wallpaper with gimp to one doupblewallpaper?
[00:12] <randomusr> syrius? do what?
[00:14] <drink_sti> i just want to run ubuntu on my laptop to see what hardware problems i might have before i stick with it.
[00:14] <pipegeek> drink_sti: in that case, you don't want vmware
[00:14] <I-am-On-WinXP> lol
[00:15] <jeffmr> is there a preference panel for disabling bluetooth on startup
[00:15] <pipegeek> drink_sti: if you install ubuntu in a virtual machine, it'll be running on virtualized hardware, and you won't find out about issues with the real hardware
[00:15] <pipegeek> drink_sti: Download the livecd image, and boot off it.  You'll get to a full desktop, and won't have to install anything
[00:15] <pipegeek> then, if you want to install it, just double-click the 'install' icon
[00:15] <BasketCase_Eee> this is probably a dumb question but in Netbook Remix 9.10 how do I organize or sort the icons for programs?
[00:16] <dr3mro> hey guys what do you thnk about Listen Music Player  is it good
[00:16] <pcbuilder97> why would my webcam work with youtube but not work with ustream??  dont they use the same plugin?
[00:16] <drink_sti> pipegeek: i would like to set up dualboot but from what i read theres alot more to do than say if u have xp and vista. im still real new to linux and would like to mess around with it.
[00:17] <pipegeek> drink_sti: sure.  What I'm suggesting is that, if you want to mess around, you boot off the CD and don't install it at all
[00:17] <pipegeek> you'll have a full linux desktop, and you can install programs (into memory---they disappear when you reboot), browse the web, what have you
[00:17] <chad_> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[00:18] <I-am-On-WinXP> this chat rom is on fire
[00:18] <drink_sti> pipegeek: thanks for the info. ill try that out.
[00:20] <DaveyAM> hi guys.. tell me how i can hide all icons in only 1 desktop...? i can do it in gnome?
[00:20] <BasketCase_Eee> hmmm, now that I look harder it appears that the games and favorites tabs are the only ones that aren't sorted.  the favs I can kinda sort by removing and adding them in the proper order (kinda lame) and the games seem to be sorted by an undisplayed category which I would like to change
[00:21] <slide> Is there a support channel for Ubuntu One?
[00:21] <user_> hi
[00:21] <DaveyAM> pls.. no idea..?
[00:21] <pipegeek> drink_sti: if you really want it in a vm, though, you can download one of the images at the following link, and run it in vmware player (which is really simple to use): http://chrysaor.info/?page=ubuntu
[00:21] <dustin> Hey all, don't send me to wiki page, I have read wiki over and over there is no answer for me there. I dual boot Ubuntu9.10 and Win7. It was working now I updated the system (which may or may not have had a grub update, idk) and now I can not boot into my Win7 partition. Here is a pastebin of my grub.cfg http://pastebin.com/mb5d41dd
[00:22] <LjL> slide: #ubuntuone
[00:23] <user_> hi everybody
[00:24] <dustin> Anyone able to help me and my grub issue
[00:24] <user_> no idea
[00:24] <dustin> Oh yea, when I select Windows 7 it just takes me back to the grub select OS page, no error or anything
[00:26] <dustin> Why are there so many people in the chat, yet no-one knows anything?
[00:26] <Snausages> dustin: way it goes.  Try back later
[00:28] <chad_> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[00:28] <chad_> please
[00:28] <barnaclebarnes> well I finally worked our why the iflo up wasn't working. the ssh port was missing from the /etc/iptables.up.rules  file.
[00:29] <MadSeaDog> Is it possible to isolate some bad sector and create a partition with onlygood sector?
[00:29] <treebuey> trrrr
[00:30] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: that should already be happening under the radar, unless the bad sector list has overflowed on that drive
[00:31] <MadSeaDog> Snausages,  okay... if Gparted tell me the hard drive has 59 bad sector... and windows refuse to boot is it overflowed?
[00:31] <treebuey> hiya. My fonts are messed up for firefox menus after the last update. also, a cyrillic like character is showing up whenver i am at a password prompt WITHIN xwindows. any ideas?
[00:32] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: I don't know how gparted makes its count.  Typically the host PC can't see any bad sectors at all, even when there are some, because the drive hardware already reallocated them to spare sectors
[00:32] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: I guess the thing to do is pull the SMART status for that drive, see if you have a matching count of 59 reallocations
[00:33] <MadSeaDog> Snausages,  how can i do that?
[00:33] <arand> How can I force a window to a specific viewport despite it being started/refocussed/changing? the compiz settings only seem to do that when the application starts.
[00:33] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: dunno off the top of my head
[00:33] <ubuntu> does ubuntu 9.10 comes with a irc. client by default? I cant find one
[00:33] <digitalfiz> is there an easy way to make apache startup a 2nd time on another port by a different user?
[00:33] <ubuntu> and looks like emphaty doesnt has irc support
[00:34] <ubuntu> empathy
[00:34] <Vonnick> Yes it does
[00:34] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: maybe try installing smartmontools?
[00:34] <Vonnick> You have to skip the initial account creation and do it from the menu
[00:34] <Vonnick> Then there's an IRC option
[00:35] <MadSeaDog> Snausages, ok... is it in the repos?
[00:35] <ubuntu> lool
[00:35] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: dunno, but it ought to be
[00:36] <ubuntu> I wish sometimes that ubuntu had irssi
[00:36] <oxy_> I downloaded the nvidia video card drivers from nvidia and the file is a .run file (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.42-pkg2.run). How do I install this?
[00:36] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: in modern drives, when a sector goes bad the HDD reallocates it to a spare sector before the host PC is ever aware of it.  So if your machine is telling you there are 59 bad sectors...  that makes me think it may actually be 59 + all the ones that the SMART system has already compensated for...
[00:36] <ubuntu> bbl
[00:36] <SuBsAm> is there any on line tv program in ubuntu
[00:37] <SuBsAm> ?
[00:37] <Vonnick> There's probably some totem plugins for it
[00:37] <jolaren> What's wrong here?
[00:37] <jolaren> joel@joel-laptop:/usr/share/hal/fdi/information$ setkeycodes e078 30-keymap-lg.fdi
[00:37] <jolaren> Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[00:37] <Vonnick> If not, try Miro
[00:37] <jolaren> Been testing for hours
[00:37] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: and yes, there are ways to format around bad sectors, but I don't know the particulars.
[00:37] <jolaren> How do I set the kecode
[00:39] <SuBsAm> can i watch an online  channels in linux
[00:39] <jolaren> Anyone?= Cry
[00:39] <oxy_> How do I stop my X server and get to a command line only so that I can install my Nvidia video drivers???
[00:39] <SuBsAm> ?
[00:39] <inveratulo> oxy_ 'killall xorg'
[00:39] <SuBsAm> can i watch an online  channels in linux ?
[00:39] <wick94> hi
[00:39] <arand> oxy_:  first of all, does the driver in the ubuntu repositories not works for you? Secondly, if yuo want to install it, start a terminal and do "sudo ./file.run" (replace "file")
[00:39] <wick94> can any1 hlp me i m having a problem with synaptic package manager
[00:40] <chad_> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[00:40] <DaveyAM> hi guys.. tell me how i can hide all icons in only 1 desktop...? i can do it in gnome?
[00:40] <DaveyAM> pls.. no idea..?
[00:40] <gnufreex> SuBsAm, what chanels?
[00:41] <wick94> evry time i run  synaptic package managr it says e: dpkg was interrupted, your must manually start 'sudo dpkg -configure -a
[00:41] <SuBsAm> on line tv channels
[00:41] <wick94> how can i fix tht
[00:41] <oxy_> arand: when i do the "sudo ./file.run" it says it can't install because X server is running. Also, I thought I was was supposed to go to hardware drivers to get nvidia driver working, but there were no options there. Should I instead check in synaptic?
[00:41] <SuBsAm> gnufreex on line tv channels
[00:41] <arand> oxy_: first go to tty: ctrl+alt+F2 (+F7 to get back) then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[00:41] <gnufreex> try Miro
[00:41] <oddhyena> hi.
[00:41] <yacc_> MadSeaDog, but a hdd that is so far gone that it cannot remap sectors anyway is clearly failing. fast.
[00:41] <SuBsAm> gnufreex like orbit and art
[00:41] <oddhyena> does anyone know how to send alsa output through jack
[00:41] <wick94> any1
[00:41] <wick94> hlp plzzzzzzzzzz
[00:42] <wick94> i have a problm with synaptic manager
[00:42] <arand> oxy_: hmm, well it might be something odd with your card model...
[00:42] <yacc_> MadSeaDog, mke2fs for example has the option -c => slow
[00:42] <MadSeaDog> yacc_,  do you think it worth try saving it? or direct buy another?
[00:43] <wick94> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[00:43] <oddhyena> i'm trying to output alsa through jack so that I can use recordmydesktop since the alsa option doesn't work.
[00:43] <wick94> hlpppppppppppppppppppppp plllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[00:43] <gnufreex> SuBsAm , did you tried Miro Internet TV. It is in software centar
[00:43] <oxy_> arand: It's a fairly common card. Geforce GTX 260
[00:43] <yacc_> In almost any normal situation it's not worth trying to safe it.
[00:43] <MadSeaDog> yacc_,  it's a ntfs partition...
[00:43] <SuBsAm> gnufreex not working
[00:44] <yacc_> MadSeaDog, modern hdds (as in the last 15 years or longer) do black sector remapping automatically.
[00:44] <oxy_> arand: Maybe there is nothing in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers because when I first opened that i didn't have a live internet connection?
[00:44] <seidos> when i paste text from vim to firefox, firefox freezes.  it's quite a bit of text though
[00:44] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: seeing so many bad blocks counted from any tool would scare me into replacing the disk
[00:44] <yacc_> So even if you have an unrecoverable error, when you overwrite the sector it should go good again, because the hdd remaps it to a reserved area of blocks.
[00:44] <seidos> i'm using firefox 3.6 beta 1 though
[00:44] <yacc_> "unrecoverable read error"
[00:45] <yacc_> If you have an unrecoverable write error that usually means that the hdd has run out of replacement sectors.
[00:45] <oxy_> arand: Ill figure it out. Thanks for the help.
[00:45] <arand> oxy_: might be, in that case you could try installing from synaptic instead to do it the "ubuntu way"
[00:45] <seidos> wasn't a freeze, just took like 3 minutes to paste the text.  I think it's like 3 paragraphs
[00:45] <yacc_> So if you don't happen to be in the nowhere, with the next PC shop hundreds of miles away, ...
[00:45] <oddhyena> did you try doing a hard format on the hard disk?
[00:45] <MadSeaDog> yacc_ so simply make it rearrenge the partition might be good enough?
[00:46] <yacc_> oddhyena, wrong decade ;)
[00:46] <MadSeaDog> Snausages, would have tough the same...
[00:46] <seidos> and it pasted a lot of blank lines
[00:46] <oddhyena> doesn't writing zeros to the entire disk count as a format?
[00:46] <yacc_> MadSeaDog, no you've got the equivalent of a car engine that is producing a thick black fume behind the car.
[00:47] <yacc_> oddhyena, no, for real lowlevel formats you need usually vendor specific utilities.
[00:47] <yacc_> MadSeaDog, It's also an economic question.
[00:47] <yacc_> Madkiss, OTOH, you can get 500GB hdds nowadays for ~40€ easily.
[00:48] <neal__> hey, i have an interesting question for someone
[00:48] <MadSeaDog> yacc_,  hehe i see the picture! i guess gonna go for a new one...
[00:48] <nikolam> hm, how do you guys make monitor actually tirn itself off when screen saver stars, instead of just being black
[00:48] <neal__> is it possible to record a voice conversation using a modem
[00:48] <darrend> does anyone know if this pulseaudio nonsense is being addressed by the devs?
[00:48] <darrend> (i.e. it crashing apps every 20 mins)
[00:48] <oddhyena> i already asked about the modem recording a long time ago and got no answer XD
[00:49] <neal__> oddhyena, thats too bad
[00:49] <neal__> i'm sure it can be done, just now sure how
[00:49] <plainas> neal__ modem stands for modulator/demodulator, unless your modem comes with a recorder (which sounds unlikely) the answer is no
[00:49] <arand> darrend: that is probably a specific issue, is it reported as abug?
[00:49] <neal__> i was thinking of using mgetty then say cat it into /dev/dsp or somesuch
[00:49] <yacc_> MadSeaDog, so you have to question yourself is your data worth less than 1€ per 12.5GB?
[00:50] <jolaren> (where scancode is either xx or e0xx, given in hexadecimal,\n"
[00:50] <jolaren> "  and keycode is given in decimal)\n"
[00:50] <neal__> well the modem can receive voicemail and fax, so i don't see a reason that you couldn't listen in
[00:50] <darrend> arand: there seem to be several already posted with many people reporting confirmations in comments.
[00:50] <oddhyena> i had a modem that I could hear stuff over the phone lines with when I tried to play multiplayer doom, I used my friend's phone number and I could hear "hello? hello?"
[00:51] <darrend> arand: sound worked perfectly in jaunty, now it's totally broken :(
[00:51] <oddhyena> is it possible to route alsa audio through jack?
[00:51] <plainas> neal__: where does it dumps the fax to?
[00:51] <yacc_> neal__, with a softmodem probably => a softmodem is nothing more than a sound card with the hookup to the phone line.
[00:52] <MadSeaDog> yacc_,  this is not mine... i got to save it ... gonna ask that question to the owner...
[00:52] <jolaren> How do I make a unknown key known?
[00:52] <gerzel> When I am logged into the console (as in ubuntu server w/no x session running logged in with keyboard monitor directly connected to the box) is there a way to adjust the font size on the screen?  I'd like to make it smaller so I can fit more info on the screen
[00:52] <plainas> it should be possible to connect a modem to a computer and make a phone val
[00:52] <yacc_> Basically the important thing is that when the first unrecoverable write error pops up, the drive has already used up a sizeable chunk of replacement sectors, ...
[00:53] <plainas> in that case your modem would have to be able to route a sound signal
[00:53] <plainas> directly to the phone line
[00:53] <MadSeaDog> yacc_,  so after 59 ...
[00:53] <yacc_> OTOH, I personally do have a 250GB USB drive that is slowly failing, and it's quite ok, [48690.377652] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Sense Key : Recovered Error [current] [descriptor]
[00:53] <yacc_> Because I only store "worthless" stuff on it, actually I use it as a staging area for torrent data ;)
[00:54] <arand> darrend: well, the only thing to do, if it's reported correctly, is to monitor the bugreport for updates, or go ahead yourself and test/provide patches.
[00:54] <Vantrax> anyone know of a FOSS solution like Zenworks or CSSM
[00:55] <Snausages> MadSeaDog: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html
[00:55] <plainas> anyway, can anybody tell me where can i read about the latest integration of launchpad and aptitude
[00:55] <pixie_pie> can anyone tell me the fastest way to install ubuntu lts on my vmware?
[00:55] <Sierradump> Can someone help me with Xorg.conf?  I just need to set resolution to 720p  (1280x720)  but I also need to adjust something like horizontal and vertical frequencies?  But I don't know what they should be set to?
[00:55] <Sierradump> Is there a way to figure that out?
[00:56] <arand> pixie_pie: some sites provide downloadable vm images, that'd probably be the fastest, otherwise, just grab an iso and install as you would a normal machine.
[00:56] <Vantrax> pixie_pie, use an iso as a virtual drive
[00:56] <plainas> pixie_pie: download the iso and choose boot from iso
[00:56] <yacc_> MadSeaDog, You could try to read out the S.M.A.R.T. data if available, but I think that experience is clear on this one.
[00:56] <benc> I want to use upstart to control a server. My server has a script that kills it but upstart also kills the process. what I should do?
[00:56] <pixie_pie> and what is the latest lts ?
[00:56] <Vantrax> 8.04
[00:56] <pixie_pie> thanks
[00:56] <Vantrax> or wait for 10.04
[00:56] <seidos> Sierradump: i think your best bet would be to compare your xorg.conf to another xorg.conf file that has the sections you need
[00:57] <pixie_pie> sorry, arand, but can you clarify what is the vm image and how can i know it is a safe website to download this from?
[00:58] <pixie_pie> and if you know of a safe site, can you recommend one to me?
[00:58] <seidos> Sierradump: i'd show you mine, but it doesn't have what you need, i think because of my graphics driver
[00:58] <holmser> I need to install windows on another partition for school... how do I reinstall grub after that?
[00:58] <MadSeaDog> allright folks thanks a lot!  ... i guess i have a lot of reading to do!  See ya!
[00:58] <yacc_> pixie_pie, the vmware website should have some images.
[00:58] <pixie_pie> thanks
[00:59] <gusan0r_> buenas
[00:59] <oddhyena> is it possible to get alsa through jack so that I can record it's output?
[00:59] <holmser> can I reinstall grub with the ubuntu boot disk?
[00:59] <Random832> in sound preferences I have the option to take volume higher than 100% - is there a way to enable this for the tray volume and the keyboard volume buttons?
[00:59] <yacc_> pixie_pie, http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/cat/508
[00:59] <pixie_pie> thanks yacc_
[01:00] <gerzel> I'd like to set a higher resoultion when using term, as in init level 2 on Ubuntu server  how do I do that?
[01:00] <chad_> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[01:00] <holmser> on a completely unrelated note, anyone know where I can find labels for my ubuntu disks?
[01:01] <pixie_pie> yacc_ sorry... just a few more questions.  On this site, there is LTS Server and Desktop and also there apear to be different "brands", Linhost, WMPlanet, etc
[01:01] <pixie_pie> How do I know which one to get?
[01:02] <yacc_> brands == people who have made it.
[01:02] <plainas> how do i install a launchpad branch through apt? can't find the docs anywhere
[01:02] <yacc_> pixie_pie, browse and see which one you like, kind of.
[01:02] <oddhyena> does anyone know how I can record the output from pulseaudio? like have all the applications' audio output be dumped to a file? or is there a way to have pulseaudio output to jack?
[01:02] <pixie_pie> yacc_ so that could be.... a security issue, no?  isn't it safer to burn the iso image?
[01:02] <yacc_> LTS == LongTermSupport
[01:03] <yacc_> pixie_pie, it's safer, but you have to install it yourself.
[01:03] <pixie_pie> yacc_ ok i think i'll do the lts then
[01:03] <pixie_pie> from iso
[01:03] <pixie_pie> thanks
[01:03] <pixie_pie> hm wait
[01:03] <arand> gerzel: 9.10? upgraded or on grub2?
[01:03] <pixie_pie> if you were me, yacc_ would you choose vmPlanet or LinHost... and LTS or server =)
[01:03] <pixie_pie> thanks
[01:04] <yacc_> pixie_pie, as I happen to have a collection of CD images lying around on my disc, I'd just install it normally ;)
[01:04]  * chad_ needs help
[01:04] <pixie_pie> yea because i just realized i don't have any blank discs
[01:04] <pixie_pie> hm
[01:04] <gerzel> arand: latest release so 9.10, re-installing now (different reason dev server so I'm making lots of mistakes on a box I can afford to make them on)
[01:04] <arand> pixie_pie: you don't need to bunr the iso to install it in a vm
[01:05] <pixie_pie> oh.  i don't know how to do it though... can you give me some keywords to google how to do it then?
[01:05] <Redeemed> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[01:07] <Redeemed> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[01:07] <oddhyena> Redeemed, did you try apt-get purge?
[01:07] <pixie_pie> and alos, are the images for vmware just like the real ubuntu?
[01:08] <lubosz> hi
[01:08] <Dallas> anyone able to help with this? I just installed the psb video driver for dell netbook on jaunty, the only way I can get it back to the UI is to use the "low graphics mode" anyone know how to configure this to work correctly?
[01:08] <lubosz> when i want a service to not start at boot, do i have to rename it in EVERY runlevel from S to K?
[01:08] <intern> tcom.com/live
[01:08] <intern> doh
[01:08] <intern> www.pauldotcom.com/live
[01:09] <Funzo> what's the shortcut to seperate the console from X when the screen is flickering?
[01:09] <pixie_pie> NM i get it.
[01:10] <pixie_pie> But can anyone tlel me WHERE to download ubuntu 8.04?  Every time I click on a link for it, i get 9.10
[01:10] <pixie_pie> arg nm
[01:10] <krunk-> Funzo: I assume you're asking that on my behalf :)
[01:10] <Funzo> yeah
[01:10] <kruqn> anyone use the keryx program? im trying to download packages for install on my linux computer in order to mount an ntfs raid
[01:11] <nilo> hi every body
[01:11] <Funzo> ah I'll google it hold on
[01:11] <kruqn> the linux computer doesn't have internet so im trying to download these files on my laptop
[01:11] <nilo> I have the next message when I try to upgrade my ubuntu 9.10
[01:12] <kruqn> when i try to download the new package list it doesn't work, i get a bunch of unable to extract files errors for each list i download, if i try to open the files it doesn't work, many are like 1kb or 0kb
[01:12] <nilo> "Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible
[01:12] <Redeemed> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[01:12] <Jordan_U> kruqn: Are you behind a proxy?
[01:13] <kruqn> if i try to use the default list then the packages i download are corrupt, many again are 1kb about 340 bytes or so, and i am unable to download them
[01:13] <nilo> what's wrong??
[01:13] <kruqn> not that i know of jordan, im using my cell phone as a mobile modem
[01:14] <p0rpus_meat> I am using nvidia-settings to try and set up dual screens. All screens are detected fine, and all settings seem good and normal but when I click on "Save to X configuration file", I get errors. The errors are at http://pastebin.com/d2dc63a12 please help.
[01:14] <vocal> yea nvidia did that shit too me the i could not get x to start after reboot
[01:15] <kruqn> sorry i got dc'd
[01:15] <kruqn> anyways i dont think im behind a proxy
[01:15] <kruqn> some of the files download fine
[01:15] <kruqn> others dont work, so i figured it was because the list was out of date, but i can't update the list
[01:16] <arand> gerzel: you need the gfxpayload=*x* option for the kernel afaik
[01:16] <Jordan_U> kruqn: Do you ever have to log in via the browser to connect to the internet through your phone?
[01:16] <Redeemed> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[01:17] <pixie_pie> does anyone know what default version of ubuntu is installed when you choose to install linux/ubuntu on vmware?
[01:17] <pixie_pie> i've just done that but i don't know how to get the version of ubuntu i want.... thanks
[01:19] <Jordan_U> pixie_pie: Installing Ubuntu in a virtual machine is just like installing Ubuntu in a real machine, except you tell vmware to boot from the Ubuntu .iso rather than having to write the .iso to disk. Whatever version of Ubuntu you download will be the one you install.
[01:20] <pixie_pie> Jordan_U but there is adefault here
[01:20] <pixie_pie> i did not choose which version
[01:20] <pixie_pie> yet it boots up to a version
[01:20] <innociv> I have a build.sh file and doing sudo ./build.sh isn't running it
[01:20] <pixie_pie> i chose the generic instructions from vmware
[01:20] <innociv> What am I doing wrong? :\
[01:20] <lstarnes> innociv: sudo sh build.sh
[01:20] <lstarnes> innociv: or sudo bash build.sh
[01:20] <Jordan_U> pixie_pie: Can you link to those instructions?
[01:20] <innociv> bunch of permission denied
[01:21] <pixie_pie> no because there were no instructions
[01:21] <pixie_pie> i just hit install new os
[01:21] <CoverSlide> permission denied with sudo?
[01:21] <dmill2010|Mac> pixie_pie did you download a ubuntu iso or are you using a version straight from vmware?
[01:21] <pixie_pie> and then i chose linux/ubuntu
[01:21] <Redeemed> I try to uninstall a corrupted sound-juicer, but I get this error "http://fpaste.org/wBDb/" can I get some help please?
[01:21] <emma> pixie_pie: is it set executable?
[01:21] <pixie_pie> the latter, dmill2010
[01:21] <dmill2010|Mac> hmm
[01:22] <oddhyena> will it break audio if I compiled pulseaudio from source
[01:22] <ryaxnb> installing KDE, Xfce and LXDE...
[01:22] <ryaxnb> i discovered a buug
[01:22] <jeffmr> anyone know why justin.tv flash streams don't work?
[01:22] <diplomatic> someones gotta know what ima talkin about... im looking for a package that might affect the way images are handled and it starts with the letter G
[01:22] <ryaxnb> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop creates dependency problems
[01:23] <jeffmr> diplomatic, gimp?
[01:23] <p0rpus_meat_> I got DC'd so sorry
[01:23] <p0rpus_meat_> Anytime I try to "Save to X configuration file" when I make ANY kind of changes in nvidia-settings I get these errors i pasted at http://pastebin.com/d2dc63a12 Any ideas.... anyone....???
[01:23] <ryaxnb> It proposes removing network  manager, which is not a good solution ((!))
[01:23] <diplomatic> i dont think so...
[01:23] <CoverSlide> it says it's no longer needed or it says it needs to remove it?
[01:23] <diplomatic> guld or somthing like taht
[01:24] <jeffmr> did you check software center or get-apt
[01:24] <innociv> cover, yeppp
[01:24] <innociv> probably the build file permsisions
[01:24] <jeffmr> diplomatic, synaptic
[01:24] <diplomatic> nah
[01:25] <dmill2010|Mac> im just curious, how did everyone primarily learn linux?
[01:25] <oddhyena> how would I add jack support to pulseaudio without having to compile pulseaudio, since it won't compile
[01:25] <Mike_lifeguard> Do folks know anything about the notify-osd bug where the notifications aren't actually in the corner?
[01:25] <gerzel> arand: grub 2
[01:26] <gerzel> thanks
[01:26] <jeffmr> dmill2010|Mac, install, read, read man, read, read forums, chat
[01:26] <dmill2010|Mac> jeffmr hehe similiar to what i've done
[01:27] <oddhyena> i guess if it can't be done in windows then it can't be done in linux XD
[01:27] <digeratiX> have the issues with the MSI Wind and 9.10 been fixed?
[01:27] <jeffmr> dmill2010|Mac, yeah you have to experience it to learn it
[01:27] <RebelZero> Mike_lifeguard, that's not a bug but done by design
[01:28] <arand> gerzel: semms to require trickery though: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41881
[01:28] <arand> diplomatic: "aptitude search searchterm"
[01:28] <dmill2010|Mac> Agreed, you do learn a lot better by doing
[01:28] <jeffmr> dmill2010|Mac, what mac do you have if you have one
[01:28] <dmill2010|Mac> a last gen macbook
[01:28] <p0rpus_meat_> If I make a change in display configuration in nvidia-settings, I HAVE to click on "Save to X configuration file" in order for those changes to go into effect, but I get errors. These errors and my xorg.conf are paste at http://pastebin.com/d4b6c8335 Please help.
[01:28] <Mike_lifeguard> RebelZero: Wait, what? Why wouldn't it go in the corner? It used to be in the corner. The configuration says it should go in the corner... O__o
[01:29] <jeffmr> dmill2010|Mac, does everything work?
[01:29] <dmill2010|Mac> jeffmr, with some tweaking but yes
[01:29] <dmill2010|Mac> the microphone still has been giving me issues though
[01:30] <jeffmr> dmill2010|Mac, I can't get backight keys and dashboard and expose to work
[01:30] <dmill2010|Mac> but i primarily use OSX on it and use virtualbox if i want to use ubuntu
[01:30] <RebelZero> Mike_lifeguard, if i can find it, there was an explanation of why they aren't exactly in the corner
[01:30] <dmill2010|Mac> jeffmr ah, mine doesn't have the backlight keys
[01:30] <digeratiX> have the issues with the MSI Wind and 9.10 been fixed?
[01:31] <Dallas> anyone able to help with this? I just installed the psb video driver for dell netbook on jaunty, the only way I can get it back to the UI is to use the "low graphics mode" anyone know how to configure this to work correctly?
[01:31] <jeffmr> dmill2010|Mac, last generation do you mean latest or earliest?
[01:31] <johnathon> hello
[01:31] <dmill2010|Mac> jeffmr and i never tried to use expose or spaces while in linux
[01:31] <dmill2010|Mac> jeffmr I mean it was the latest macbook before they redid the design with the unibody plastic ones
[01:32] <johnathon> i have had trouble with the wireless cards after updating in Ubuntu 9.10 and it is a fresh install.
[01:32] <johnathon> has anyone else had this problem
[01:32] <jeffmr> johnathon, what problems
[01:33] <tsunami> hi, I am customizing an opensource app and was wondering if there is a preferred diff tool and if anyone can point me toward some docs.  I've never used diff tools before and am quite new to development
[01:33] <johnathon> the wireless says disconnected even after i unconnected it and reconnect it
[01:33] <jeffmr> johnathon, mine sometimes flakes out and disconnects
[01:33] <Dallas> My Xorg.conf looks like: Section "Device"
[01:33] <Dallas>         Identifier      "GMA500"
[01:33] <Dallas>         Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
[01:33] <Dallas> #        Option "DRI" "off"
[01:33] <Dallas>         Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
[01:33] <FloodBot1> Dallas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <Dallas>         Option "IgnoreACPI" "yes"
[01:34] <johnathon> well my will not connect at all
[01:34] <jeffmr> johnathon, sta drivers for a broadcom 4322 here
[01:34] <Mike_lifeguard> RebelZero: I'd be really interested to read that, if you find it -- because I think that's a tad ... /off/
[01:34] <digeratiX> does anyone here know if the issues with the MSI Wind and 9.10 have been fixed??
[01:34] <johnathon> ?
[01:34] <Mike_lifeguard> digeratiX: You'll have to state what issues those are
[01:34] <pixie_pie> any suggestions on how much hd space max i should give to my vmware?
[01:34] <pixie_pie> for ubuntu, that is
[01:34] <jeffmr> johnathon, can you private chat?
[01:34] <digeratiX> the usb ports not working
[01:34] <nihl> this is the help channel right?
[01:34] <johnathon> yes pm me
[01:35] <dmill2010|Mac> pixiepie depends on how much you want to use it, probably 8-10 gigs if your just want to mess around
[01:35] <RebelZero> Mike_lifeguard, http://www.mail-archive.com/ayatana@lists.launchpad.net/msg00742.html
[01:36] <Dallas> anyone able to help with this? I just installed the psb video driver for dell netbook on jaunty, the only way I can get it back to the UI is to use the "low graphics mode" anyone know how to configure this to work correctly?
[01:37] <Dallas> If I'm on the righ track I should just have to modify my xorg.conf file to make it work correctly. But what I have doesn't seem to be working
[01:38] <Roasted> Anybody running the new beta of AWN?
[01:38] <Dallas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/322922/plain/
[01:38] <kanja2> Hey, I've got a program that opens in the same place every time, but it hides half the window -  how can I change where it opens?
[01:39] <Mike_lifeguard> RebelZero: Thanks, I'll read the thread. Do you know if it is supposed to be impossible to change the theme or location (ie which not-quite-corner is used)?
[01:42] <RebelZero> Mike_lifeguard, not really. Someone in here mentioned once about a setting through gconf-editor where you could pull it down to the middle of the screen. Not sure if that's still an option.
[01:43] <Mike_lifeguard> RebelZero: Well, the UI to configure theme & location still exists, it just doesn't do anything, making me want to throw things at whoever did that
[01:44] <Mike_lifeguard> RebelZero: In any event, I see the need for proper UI designers :\
[01:44] <RebelZero> Mike_lifeguard, that was a big tease. I remember seeing it in Jaunty and thought it was a wasted effort.
[01:44] <jeffmr_> johnathan,
[01:45] <Mike_lifeguard> RebelZero: It was and is a waste because they didn't spec it properly, and even now it is half-done
[01:45] <Dallas> Anyone able to help getting the psb driver to work correctly in jaunty? I have it installed but everytime I boot I have to enter "low graphics mode" for it to work correctly. I've edited the xorg.conf with what I believe to be the correct lines, but for some reason I'm still having this problem.
[01:46] <tweeda> is there a client-side authN/authZ configuration utility for 9.10 desktop?  I can manage the ldap.conf and krb5.conf etc by hand but if there is a decent GUI available, I'd rather use it.
[01:47] <dooglus> kanja2: what program?
[01:47] <emma> Dallas: did you see this -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-psb/+bug/330906
[01:48] <emma> Dallas: does that relate to your issue?
[01:49] <_Tavo_> Hello, I'm having trouble making gdb and eclipse work in karmic. It throws an error about not being able to find "dl-debug.c" when gdb is launched. Any ideas?
[01:49] <_Tavo_> I've never had this problem on earlier ubuntu versions
[01:50] <Dallas> emma: I don't think so. It's supposed to work under jaunty using these steps http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/
[01:50] <IdleOne> !find dl-debug.c
[01:51] <Dallas> emma: I did that, and it did this, then I tried editing the xorg.conf file, and I get the same result.
[01:53] <_Tavo_> I didn't find that file either... But the error is the same even in two clean instalations of karmic (with gdb installed, of course) and even with older versions of eclipse, like 3.4
[01:55] <heisoundfunny333> hello! does anyone now of the new features in 10.04?
[01:55] <Dallas> emma: 9.04 is the distro that ships with the dell mini 10. So I'm not sure why I can't get it to work.
[01:56] <kanja2> dooglus: emacs - bottom half of the window is obsured so I can't see what m-x I'm typing
[01:56] <IdleOne> heisoundfunny333: UDS Dallas is now in session, they are deciding on that as we speak.
[01:56] <emma> Dallas: I am not sure either. I'm sorry I can't help. It's over my head. I just wanted to post that link in case it was germain.
[01:57] <Mike_lifeguard> RebelZero: FWIW, the plans for Lucid look much better: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[01:57] <IdleOne> heisoundfunny333: try asking in #ubuntu-uds
[01:57] <Dallas> emma: np. thank you.
[01:57] <heath|OTG> heisoundfunny333, I heard they are working towards a 10 sec boot time
[01:58] <jdsandeson> How dose one start a lug?
[01:58] <heisoundfunny333> 10 seconds would be nice :)
[01:58] <emma> jdsandeson: that's definitely not an ubuntu support question :)
[01:58] <randomusr> how can I set my system to automatically install arch system updates? I'm running 9.10
[01:59] <heisoundfunny333> i am still pretty happy that they fixed the problem with intel video cards
[01:59] <randomusr> heisoundfunny333, what problem?
[02:00] <heisoundfunny333> video playback was choppy in 9.04 and now in 9.10 flash video playback and any other kind is smooth by far
[02:00] <Trustisaweakness> how stable is 9.10?
[02:01] <fireball> gdm fails to autoboot since 9.10 install, please help
[02:01] <monga> hey guys, do you know where i can get a copy of ubuntu 9.10 for 64 bit?
[02:01] <monga> i only see a 32 bit
[02:01] <heath|OTG> fireball, you mean load on boot?
[02:01] <yoriel> who know the easy way to install javajdk
[02:01] <coop6> :SLkas;dlfja    Firefox - Segmentation fault!?!  anyone get this when trying to open gmail?
[02:01] <yoriel> and setting java_home
[02:01] <yoriel> ?
[02:02] <yoriel> i try so many methods but alls fails
[02:02] <fireball> heath|OTG: yes
[02:02] <randomusr> how can I set my system to automatically install arch system updates? I'm running 9.10
[02:02] <shonen> setting java_home should be, open a terminal, export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java
[02:02] <Taim> yoriel: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[02:03] <monga> does ubuntu make a version for 64 or only 32 bit?
[02:03] <isis> hi guys
[02:03] <Colonel_Panik> monga, you are at the right place just click around ;=)
[02:03] <shonen> monga: it makes it for both 64 and 32
[02:03] <randomusr> Blah
[02:03] <yoriel> ok, i do it but i define java_home to us/lib/jvm/jdkxxxx
[02:03] <IdleOne> randomusr: System>Administration>Software Sources> Updates
[02:03] <fireball> and how do i point my address at someone speciffically such that it highlight for them? or am i?
[02:03] <monga> on the official site it only has a download link for 32 bit
[02:03] <heisoundfunny333> Trustisaweakness: fairly stable the only problem i had was with a fresh install and my wireless driver did not work without some tweaking.
[02:03] <yoriel> ant the next step will be install apache ant
[02:04] <yoriel> it dont recognize the jdk installation
[02:04] <yoriel> to make ant all
[02:04] <randomusr> IdleOne, can this be done from the command line? perhaps as a cron job?
[02:04] <heath|OTG> fireball, does gdm start at all
[02:04] <fireball> heath|OTG: yes, sudo gdm gets it going after login
[02:04] <IdleOne> randomusr: I wouldn't know how, sorry
[02:04] <heath|OTG> randomusr, cron-apt
[02:04] <heath|OTG> maybe
[02:04] <Colonel_Panik> monga, click on alternative download options
[02:04] <monga> ok
[02:05] <isis> i did install configcompiz successfully and get YES with $ glxinfo | grep direct command... but iam not able to activate any effects.. i dont know why just then not run... :S
[02:05] <IdleOne> monga: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:05] <yoriel> Taim: i want to install opengts
[02:05] <fireball> heath|OTG: first failed on upgrade. Tried a clean install, same deal. I can just catch a note about missing libraries, then on to the gdm login screen
[02:05] <monga> idle0ne i dont have amd
[02:05] <randomusr> heath|OTG, any issue with that package as it's not marked arch with ubuntu logo?
[02:06] <Dallas> anyone able to help me with getting the psb drivers to function correctly under 9.04?
[02:06] <isis> nobody can help me with this problem...? :S
[02:06] <fireball> heath|OTG: after logining in already from x. . .
[02:06] <IdleOne> monga: you want 64bit version then that is the one you want
[02:07] <monga> idleone will it be compatable with my intel?
[02:07] <Taim> yoriel: hrmm...That's a little more out of the range of "general Ubuntu help."
[02:07] <IdleOne> monga: yes
[02:07] <Colonel_Panik> monga, you have an intel cpu with amd dual 64bit-32bit architecture licensed from AMD
[02:07] <heath|OTG> fireball, that's strange... what runlevel are you at on boot
[02:07] <isis> i did install configcompiz successfully and get YES with $ glxinfo | grep direct command... but iam not able to activate any effects.. i dont know why just then not run... :Sç
[02:07] <isis> nobody can help me with this problem...? :S
[02:07] <dooglus> kanja2: I'll find out for you
[02:07] <rincon> what should i use to easily edit a pdf document?
[02:07] <lovre> hi can i remove all files within a folder structure named 'file.ext'.. I tried this, but it is not working: find | grep 'file.ext' | rm   .....says that rm is missing an operand, so i suppose it cant except piped ones..
[02:07] <fireball> heath|OTG: admin. is that what you meant?
[02:07] <heath|OTG> isis compiz --replace ?
[02:08] <Colonel_Panik> monga, Intel is not proud of that so they don't advertise that
[02:08] <monga> haha
[02:08] <heath|OTG> fireball, no. in a terminal type runlevel
[02:08] <monga> What is the difference between Wine and vmware?
[02:08] <randomusr> here's a good on, how do I view commands in my path from Bash?
[02:08] <dooglus> kanja2: try: emacs -g 80x20+100+50
[02:08] <dooglus> kanja2: the 80x20 is the size in characters
[02:08] <isis> heath|OTG: some commando to do it?
[02:08] <heath|OTG> randomusr, tab + tab
[02:08] <kanja2> dooglus: that would be awesome -if can you point me in the right directory I'll start looking too. I've just never had to do anything this low in x
[02:08] <dooglus> and the 100,50 is the location of the top left corner, in pixels
[02:08] <fireball> heath|OTG: N 2
[02:08] <rincon> what should i use to easily edit a pdf document?
[02:09] <kanja2> dooglus: ahhh in emacs... hadn't thought of that
[02:09] <dooglus> kanja2: you can put something in your .emacs file too if you would rather
[02:09] <heath|OTG> fireball, is that after a clean restart ?
[02:09] <isis> heath|OTG: so... ?i must reinstall my compiz
[02:09] <fireball> heath|OTG: yes
[02:10] <heath|OTG>  isis did that command start compiz ?
[02:10] <paipimenta> I've got a 9.10 client install CD.... can I do a text-only install?
[02:10] <fireball> heath|OTG: i get taken straight to x real fast, asked to login. after login i type "sudo gdm", enter password and I'm back to normal
[02:10] <isis> heath|OTG: i must write "start compiz" on terminal?
[02:11] <fireball> heath|OTG: i tried the grub recovery option, no effect
[02:11] <heath|OTG> isis just try compiz --replace and see if it changes
[02:11] <Taim> randomusr: "history"
[02:11] <Strider22> facebook photo upload does not work as it is missing a checkbox.
[02:11] <kanja2> dooglus: awesome, thanks!
[02:11] <heath|OTG> fireball, not a grub issue. can you pastebin the following code for me: ls -la /etc/rc2.d
[02:11] <isis> heath|OTG: yes..
[02:12] <heath|OTG> fireball, and pastebin doesn't mean paste in channel
[02:12] <isis> heath|OTG: tks..
[02:12] <fireball> heath|OTG: that i know, but what do i do with it to avoid flooding?
[02:13] <heath|OTG> np, isis check System->Prefs->Appearance->Visual Effects and make sure they are on in there
[02:13] <paipimenta> hey room... I've got a 9.10 client install CD.  can I do a text-only install? it's not on the menu, but can I send an option?
[02:13] <heath|OTG> fireball, http://www.pastebin.com
[02:13] <heath|OTG> paste it in there and give me the URL
[02:14] <chuy_max> hi guys, is there any reason GDM asks me twice for my user password when I boot up?, I'm running Ubuntu 9.10
[02:14] <heath|OTG> paipimenta, I believe text only is server
[02:14] <dooglus> kanja2: do you have a "(custom-set-variables
[02:14] <dooglus> " at the end of your ~/.emacs ?
[02:14] <Taim> paipimenta: you want the alternate install ISO.
[02:15] <paipimenta> Talm: yeah, I've got the server DVD, but this old laptop I just got doesn't have a CD-ROM
[02:15] <randomusr> heath|OTG, how can I pipe the output of Tab + Tab to grep?
[02:16] <heath|OTG> ?
[02:16] <fireball> heath|OTG: thanks:     http://pastebin.com/d2df6cbcb
[02:16] <heath|OTG> why
[02:16] <randomusr> why not?
[02:16] <Dallas> I just tried to install the psb driver using http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/ guide, after apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-psb I get the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" error. "(EE) PSB:Failed to load module "Xpsb" (module does not exist) the only way to start get to UI is to choose "Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session"
[02:16] <Shwack> Hey - I'm trying to  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:16] <randomusr> it's giving me 2614 results
[02:16] <Arsin> Hey, I tried that command "man ifconfig && man dhclient" and it gave me a whole wack of things, but I'm not sure what they are all about
[02:16] <Taim> paipimenta: I do beleive there are install instructions from USB stick.  Problem is, your laptop may not support booting from USB seeing as it's older...
[02:16] <heath|OTG> fireball, gdm is missing in there hang on
[02:16] <skinnYPuP> anyone out there having probs with eth1_rename ?  Here's a reference http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1868845.html
[02:17] <slide> will apt remove files i put in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ?
[02:17] <heath|OTG> randomusr, I'm not sure you can do that
[02:17] <paipimenta> it's older than my desktop, and it doesn't support usb booting :-(
[02:17] <neon_> need some help, installed tvtime and i can get all channels but no sound, my sound card is an onboard realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd any suggestions on how i can get sound thx
[02:17] <slide> I had to put a script called stopblink in there and now its gone randomly
[02:17] <randomusr> heath|OTG, fork
[02:17] <dooglus> my USB mouse no longer works in 9.10
[02:17] <dooglus> it was ok until about a week before release, but it's not worked since
[02:18] <dooglus> it stopped the same time as one of my memory sticks stopped working
[02:18] <Taim> dous: What is the make/model of PC and mouse?
[02:18] <dooglus> the other memory stick is still fine
[02:18] <paipimenta> how do I do a minimal install with a desktop CD for 9.10?
[02:18] <Taim> err
[02:18] <dooglus> and all 3 are fine with other PCs
[02:18] <dooglus> (running Windows)
[02:18] <Taim> dooglus: make/model of PC and mouse?
[02:18] <dooglus> any idea how to get a USB mouse working?
[02:18] <dooglus> Taim: it's a Microsoft optical thingy
[02:18] <Taim> dooglus: make of PC?
[02:18] <dooglus> Taim: but it doesn't make much different - I've tried a few other USB mice and none work
[02:19] <dooglus> Taim: the PC doesn't seem to have a brand
[02:19] <heath|OTG> fireball, it appears they are no longer linking gdm through there give me a minute to see what starts it now
[02:19] <dooglus> Taim: eBuyer perhaps?
[02:19] <Real_Ubot> Anyone know a linux distro that will work well with lg x110 netbook?
[02:19] <Taim> dooglus: Do you have CPU specs, Mobo info, etc?
[02:19] <randomusr> what are the non-free repos for karmic?
[02:19] <paipimenta> Talm: Mobo?
[02:19] <dooglus> Taim: yeah: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173882
[02:19] <heath|OTG> paipimenta, server cd
[02:19] <randomusr> !non-free
[02:19] <fcuk112> i am trying to configure mutt but when i try to receive mail i get fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified.
[02:20] <Shwack> Hey - I'm trying to  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:20] <randomusr> !nonfree
[02:20] <heath|OTG> !mediabuntu
[02:20] <Taim> dooglus: Let me check.  I had a similiar problem.  Wound up being something funky.
[02:20] <randomusr> !restricted
[02:20] <randomusr> woops
[02:20] <pq_> hi all
[02:20] <dooglus> Taim: the sticker on the bottom says "Clevo M760T"
[02:21] <pq_> i have some problem with X server. Can someone help me?
[02:21] <Taim> dooglus: touchpad works?
[02:22] <dooglus> Taim: yeah
[02:22] <dooglus> Taim: http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=88 seems more details
[02:23] <dooglus> Taim: the webcam and wireless adaptor also both work, and show up in "lsusb" output
[02:23] <dooglus> Taim: I also have no problems with an external USB webcam
[02:23] <Taim> dooglus: that's just weird.
[02:24] <dooglus> Taim: and like I say, one USB memory stick works reliably, but the other just is never mounted
[02:24] <Strider22> I look like a fool on facebook because I have not been able to get photo upload to work. I've done web searches every few months for a year and followed the instructions. Still no fix. The problem is that the app takes forever to load and will only load after a restart. When it does load the app is missing a checkbox.
[02:24] <fireball> whilst i'm here, what command/program lists usb cameras and as much other info as possible?
[02:24] <dooglus> Taim: also, my mobile phone never mounts when I plug it in.  it did until a week or two before release
[02:24] <dooglus> fireball: try lsusb?
[02:25] <Shwack> Hey - I'm trying to  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:25] <neon_> need some help, installed tvtime and i can get all channels but no sound, my sound card is an onboard realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd any suggestions on how i can get sound thx
[02:26] <Taim> dooglus: you ran apt-get upgrade recently?
[02:26] <Strider22> First question is does the photo upload work for anyone using ubuntu?
[02:27] <Taim> Strider22: Works fine for me.  Did you try clearing your history, cache and cookies?
[02:27] <Dallas> I just tried to install the psb driver using http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/ guide, after apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-psb I get the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" error. "(EE) PSB:Failed to load module "Xpsb" (module does not exist) the only way to start get to UI is to choose "Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session"
[02:27] <slide> will apt remove files i put in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ? I put a script called stopblink in there and now its gone randomly
[02:28] <fireball> dooglus: thanks, but no. tells me nothing i can use. I'm thinking location "/dev/video1" etc and format etc.
[02:28] <Shwack> found the answer to my problem :)
[02:28] <fireball> trying to get the correct setting for usb cameras for zoneminder, they work with cheese. . .
[02:28] <randomusr> what's a good free project management software?
[02:29] <Taim> randomusr: planner
[02:29] <ToasterMan> Im using 9.10 64-bit and I have flash plugin installed, but it doesn't function right. For example, a youtube video will play, but when I click on any of the actions (i.e pause, or volume change or whatever) nothing happens. It's the same with all flash across the web. All flash runs, but clicking does nothing at all.
[02:29] <ToasterMan> Is this a known issue?
[02:29] <heath|OTG> fireball, just try dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:29] <Taim> ToasterMan: It is for me.  Disable desktop effects.
[02:29] <_Tavo_> please, could someone tell me if eclipse debugger with gdb works in karmic? I've been trying for hours to make it work but failed miserably...
[02:30] <_Tavo_> I think it's something to do with gdb 7.0
[02:30] <kinen> does anyone know why the sound is broken in karmic after the latest update?
[02:30] <heath|OTG> ToasterMan, flash for linux is horrible
[02:30] <ToasterMan> Taim: Yea disabling desktop effects fixed it... but why the hell does desktop effects screw flash up that badly?
[02:30] <ubuntu> hey bro , can you paste this on mysql chan pls: "ubuntu says: hello! i have 1 ubuntu server and its not booting. I want to copy its database file manualy. What file are the databases  stored in? And is this operatiion possible ?
[02:31] <ubuntu> hello! i have 1 ubuntu server and its not booting. I want to copy its database file manualy. What file are the databases  stored in? And is this operatiion possible ?
[02:31] <Taim> ToasterMan: Mnn...There is a bug on it.  I don't recall exactly why, I just know that it fixes flash.  My guess is that compiz does...unexpected things to mouse events...
[02:31] <Arsin> How do I tell if I'm using a DCHP or static ip?
[02:31] <heath|OTG> is ubuntu for real
[02:32] <rsk> heath|OTG sure.
[02:32] <heath|OTG> Taim, ToasterMan I don't have that issue...what version of flash
[02:32] <ToasterMan> heath|OTG: how do I tell what version?
[02:32] <Taim> heath|OTG: 64bit package in ubunutu.
[02:33] <heath|OTG> Taim, I didn't even know the 64bit package was out, I'm using the 32
[02:33] <randomusr> Taim: how about a charting application, like visio maybe?
[02:33] <heath|OTG> randomusr, dia
[02:33] <Taim> randomusr: ooo...I know that......
[02:33] <Taim> heath|OTG, randomusr: Thanks, heath|OTG.
[02:34] <holmser> Arsin, open /etc/network/interfaces
[02:34] <ToasterMan> heath|OTG: I have flashplugin-installer that is installed and it says version is 10.0.32.18ubuntu1
[02:34] <holmser> it will let you know your settings
[02:34] <ToasterMan> heath|OTG: and yea im in 64-bit 9.10
[02:34] <holmser> and you can change them there
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-flash-is-not-recognizing-mouse-clicks.html
[02:34] <heath|OTG> ToasterMan, 10.1 will have 64 bit support, what video card do you have?
[02:35] <pq_> can someone help me with xorg configuration issues with ATI card?
[02:35] <joshua> I've become really disappointed in ubuntu
[02:35] <Arsin> holmser:   auto lo             iface lo inet loopback            dhcp then right?
[02:35] <ToasterMan> heath|OTG: Geforce GTX 260... although I think that link Dr_Willis just pasted may be the solution
[02:35] <Arsin> joshua: Why's that?
[02:35] <heath|OTG> Arsin, that means network-manager is dealing with it and it's probably dhcp uness you set it
[02:35] <joshua> 1. jaunty -> karmic broke X I had to downgrade X core to function
[02:36] <randomusr> I'm feeling more and more confident with using Ubuntu or linux in general because I can do anything that I could do in windows... but with less headaches
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> ToasterMan:  google to the rescue. :)  and i rember seeing that last week. :)
[02:36] <justin__> there exist multiple software packages available that perform the same functions as MS Visio
[02:36] <Doorman352> how do I list usb devices in ubuntu?
[02:36] <joshua> 2. sudo isn't very smart
[02:36] <heath|OTG> that sounds like a wiener
[02:36] <ToasterMan> Dr_Willis: Yea thanks heh :)
[02:36] <joshua> doorman: lspci?
[02:36] <MacAttack_> st
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-flash-is-not-recognizing-mouse-clicks.html
[02:36] <joshua> 3. something seems wrong with kde's persistance
[02:36] <Doorman352> joshua: doesn't show a usb device thats connected....
[02:37] <heath|OTG> Doorman352, lsusb
[02:37] <tovella> Doorman352: lsusb.
[02:37] <Taim> joshua: If you don't like Karmic so well, why not stick with Jaunty.  It's still supported.  You can always wait for Lucid.
[02:37] <MacAttack_> hey
[02:37] <chasmarang> Karmic Update Manager is broken
[02:37] <Doorman352> THANKS!
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> some users reported that the bug with mouse clicks not working in Flash & Ubuntu was fixed by either disabling Compiz or just by disabling the show desktop plugin in Compiz.
[02:37] <heath|OTG> I have upgrade 5 computers to Karmic with no issues
[02:37] <chasmarang> does anyone have the same problem
[02:38] <joshua> 4. apt-get doesn't have an override "These packages work togethter thanks"
[02:38] <joshua> or an override "yes I have this dependency even though you can't see it"
[02:38] <heath|OTG> joshua, you can always use checkinstall and install from source
[02:39] <randomusr> heath|OTG: possible to insert graphics into dia
[02:39] <tovella> Taim: joshua: i agree.... just stick with Jaunty, for now.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. actually i think it does joshua .. but i only recall needing todo that once a few years back.
[02:39] <chasmarang> My Karmic Update Manager is broken does anyone have the same problem
[02:39] <heath|OTG> randomusr, yes
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> well work time for me. bye all
[02:39] <slide> will apt remove files i put in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ? I put a script called stopblink in there and now its gone randomly
[02:39] <chu_> chasmarang: yeah,
[02:39] <heath|OTG> chasmarang, explain broken
[02:39] <g1er> is there an easy way to switch between say firefox and term (active apps) in jaunty?
[02:40] <joshua> which still leaves me at sudo was a bad idea
[02:40] <randomusr> heath|OTG: lemme guess, built in?
[02:40] <heath|OTG> g1er, alt+tab ?
[02:40] <heath|OTG> randomusr, I imported pics in there before, don't recall how
[02:40] <g1er> healt|OTG, excellent, thanks
[02:41] <heath|OTG> np
[02:41] <zaduma> Hey anyone here know how to get easyBCD to work?
[02:41] <chasmarang> heath|OTG:Could not apply changes!  Fix broken packages first
[02:41] <joshua> and last I checked jaunty's firefox was way outdated
[02:41] <heath|OTG> chasmarang, from terminal apt-get install -f
[02:41] <Taim> joshua: you can change root's pw and use "su" instead if sudo is to your disliking.
[02:42] <Taim> joshua: You could always remove firefox's package and install natively.
[02:42] <joshua> Taim: of course I can but all the GUI admin tools don't know about that
[02:42] <heath|OTG> joshua, sudo -i
[02:42] <heath|OTG> or sudo su
[02:42] <heath|OTG> don't enable root
[02:42] <chasmarang> heath|OTG:I can try that - I was without the -f and I got it was holding back on new Kernels
[02:43] <joshua> remember the UAC debacle?
[02:43] <heath|OTG> windows?
[02:43] <tovella> joshua: what does that mean, really (outdated)... a couple of versions behind?  security updates still work, right.
[02:43] <joshua> sudo is about as secure as UAC on low
[02:43] <boringwall> How do you find out of a background process that you've launched but aren't waiting for has terminated? (in C)
[02:43] <heath|OTG> sudo in not for novice I agree
[02:43] <boringwall> if*
[02:43] <Taim> joshua: That's a decision you can always try to correct with feature requests or development and advocating for it's inclusion.
[02:43] <Strider22> Cleared firefox history as requested. No change.
[02:43] <dotblank> joshua, I disagree
[02:43] <Favorit> boringwall: implement signal handler?
[02:44] <losha> boringwall: you can check its pid for validity...
[02:44] <boringwall> To handle what signal?
[02:44] <Taim> joshua dotblank: I agree with dotblank.
[02:44] <boringwall> ECHLD?
[02:44] <boringwall> err SIGCHLD
[02:44] <joshua> and some trojan does echo 'alias sudo=~/.trojan/sudo' >> /etc/bashrc
[02:44] <zaduma> Anyone know how to get easyBCD to work on Win7/Ubuntu 9.10 set up?
[02:44] <Favorit> SIGCHLD i think, yes
[02:44] <boringwall> Okay, thank you
[02:44] <joshua> and some trojan does echo 'alias sudo=~/.trojan/sudo' >> ~/.bashrc
[02:44] <Favorit> let me have a quick look to be sure
[02:45] <Strider22> When I restart firefox I can load the photo upload app once. If I push refresh then firefox hangs at 50% cpu usage (leaves the other cpu free)... Is there a debug option on java that I can set to see what it is trying to load?
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[02:45] <Taim> joshua: You could do that with any privledged application.
[02:45] <heath|OTG> chasmarang, apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:45] <kisuke> is it possible to have a different background image on each workspace?
[02:46] <chasmarang> OK
[02:46] <morphias> kisuke, yes.  the method i know of is with compiz tho
[02:46] <sirninja> I'm using ubuntu 9.10. I'm using pulse audio. How do I change what channel the shortcut keys on my laptop control? Right now it does something really weird.
[02:46] <kisuke> morphias: how?
[02:46] <Electric|Master> Hi
[02:46] <Electric|Master> I'm trying to install GRUB and I'm having a problem
[02:46] <Favorit> boringwall: yeah, SIGCHLD
[02:46] <joshua> the whole point of not using sudo to me is the secure desktop thing -- no protection against any trojan whatsoever
[02:46] <innociv> what is the -rf equiv in chmod?
[02:47] <innociv> i need to chmod 755 recursively
[02:47] <joshua> innociv: -r
[02:47] <Electric|Master> It's giving me an error "The file /media/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly"
[02:47] <heath|OTG> -R
[02:47] <chasmarang> its upgrading
[02:47] <Electric|Master> Any ideas anyone?
[02:47] <Kraln> hmm, my touchpad doesn't seem to work -.-
[02:47] <chasmarang> actually this is degrading
[02:48] <chasmarang> ... :D
[02:48] <Electric|Master> Anyone?
[02:48] <Favorit> Electric|Master: are you trying to install that on a usb stick or so?
[02:48] <Favorit> Electric|Master: how did you end up with /media/root/boot... ?
[02:48] <zaduma> EasyBCD? Anyone know what this is?
[02:48] <CountDown> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 PPC on an iBook G4.   Everything seemed to work fine except suspend, which failed with a user dialog saying that the laptop didn't suspend.  After looking around a bit, I modified /etc/yaboot.conf by removing the video=ofonly option and then running ybin and restarting.  Now the laptop suspends, but it freezes somewhere in the resume process -- there's just a blank black screen with a frozen mouse cursor o
[02:48] <Electric|Master> I'm following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:48] <Electric|Master> I mounted to that like it said
[02:49] <Favorit> Electric|Master: which of the methods mentioned there?
[02:49] <heath|OTG> CountDown, Story of my life
[02:49] <Electric|Master> Huh?
[02:49] <Roasted> anybody running awn dock?
[02:49] <Electric|Master> What do u mean, method
[02:49] <morphias> kisuke, http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/
[02:49] <CountDown> heath|OTG: Glad I'm not alone at least.
[02:49] <Favorit> Electric|Master: ah, just the livecd, i see
[02:49] <heath|OTG> Roasted, get cairo-dock
[02:49] <Kraln> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[02:49] <Electric|Master> Oh, yeah
[02:49] <CountDown> heath|OTG: Did you manage to fix it or find any hints?
[02:49] <Roasted> heat OTG - al ready tried it
[02:49] <Kraln> the touchpad wasn't workingbecause I had it disabled with a soft key
[02:49] <Kraln> oh my god
[02:49] <Roasted> heathOTG *
[02:49] <Favorit> Electric|Master: did you have a separate boot partition?
[02:49]  * Kraln dies
[02:49] <FloodBot1> Kraln: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <Electric|Master> Favorit: No.
[02:50] <heath|OTG> CountDown, no, I gave up on this laptop
[02:50] <Electric|Master> I was using GRUB, Windows 7 overwrote it
[02:50] <Electric|Master> Same partition I think
[02:50] <kisuke> morphias: thanks
[02:50] <heath|OTG> Roasted, you didn't like it?
[02:50] <losha> !grub
[02:50] <Kraln> I need a goddamn beer lol
[02:50] <CountDown> heath|OTG: Hm, good to know.  Did you try Xubuntu?
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[02:50] <Favorit> Electric|Master: can you pastebin me your 'df' output, 'ls /media/root', and 'ls /media/root/boot' ?
[02:50] <morphias> Kraln: bud light?
[02:50] <Electric|Master> ok
[02:51] <heath|OTG> CountDown, I think it is my wireless card
[02:51] <heath|OTG> CountDown, no I did not
[02:51] <heath|OTG> chasmarang, you should be fine now
[02:51] <CountDown> heath|OTG: Why do you think it's the wireless card?
[02:51] <jose__> alguien habla español?
[02:51] <Roasted> heathOTG - the control panel on that thing was nothing short of horrible. The user interface was nice though, but it was too over the top for a dock. I needed it to be functional - not overly pretty
[02:51] <chasmarang> thanx
[02:51] <heath|OTG> the light never goes off
[02:51] <jose__> nadie habla español?
[02:51] <heath|OTG> Roasted, that thing will do whatever you want it to do
[02:52] <Electric|Master> It's on another computer, but... It shows my directory root on the C:\ drive of Windows 7
[02:52] <CountDown> heath|OTG: Any ideas how to debug this?
[02:52] <braian> yo hablo español
[02:52] <losha> !es | jose__
[02:52] <Dallas> I just tried to install the psb driver using http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/ guide, after apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-psb I get the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" error. "(EE) PSB:Failed to load module "Xpsb" (module does not exist) the only way to start get to UI is to choose "Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session"
[02:52] <heath|OTG> You just have to take the time and set it up
[02:52] <Roasted> heathOTG - like I said, man, horrible control panel. It was just too cumbersome. Docky and AWN surpass it, IMO.
[02:52] <Roasted> anybody running AWN dock?
[02:52] <Favorit> Electric|Master: which of those 3 commands?
[02:52] <zaduma> Anyone here know anything about EASYBCD?
[02:52] <heath|OTG> CountDown, the problem I have is trying to get errors, the damn thing is dead before it can write anything
[02:52] <Electric|Master> Favorit: What commands?
[02:52] <jose__> esque soy nuevo y no hablo español
[02:52] <Electric|Master> I used ls /media/root
[02:52] <Favorit> Electric|Master: aha, then you mounted the wrong partition
[02:53] <jose__> no hablo ingles
[02:53] <Electric|Master> oh
[02:53] <jose__> jeje
[02:53] <Favorit> Electric|Master: umount /media/root
[02:53] <jose__> me equivoque
[02:53] <Electric|Master> k
[02:53] <heath|OTG> Roasted, I have AWN dock on this laptop, but I'm telling cairo rules
[02:53] <morphias> jose__: este channel por ingles
[02:53] <Favorit> Electric|Master: fdisk -l /dev/sd<disk>, look for partition tagged as Linux, mount that one :)
[02:53] <CountDown> heath|OTG: Where were you looking for clues?  I'll try to confirm.
[02:53] <Electric|Master> "bash: unmount: command not found"
[02:54] <Favorit> umount, not unmount
[02:54] <Electric|Master> oh
[02:54] <Roasted> heathOTG - you're talking to somebody who used cairo dock extensively for a long time and just recently tried out docky and awn.
[02:54] <heath|OTG> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=913868 CountDown I read through this
[02:54] <Roasted> heathOTG - cairo is nice at first cause it has all of the eye candy, but at some point you just need stability and a clean usable dock. That's where I got to, and that's why I stopped using cairo.
[02:54] <Roasted> I have cairo on 3 computers, and each computer I had different buggy issues with it. Solid, but needs work.
[02:54] <CountDown> heath|OTG: OK, thanks.  I'll ping you if I find anything new.
[02:54] <heath|OTG> cool
[02:54] <Electric|Master> k its unmounted
[02:55] <Favorit> Electric|Master: ok, now, how many hdd's do you have in that machine?
[02:56] <heath|OTG> Roasted, that's strange, I have it on three computers as well and it runs great. AWN is fine, but it has it's annoyances
[02:56] <Roasted> heathOTG - I agree. I hated AWN. But its beta they just put out seems to surpass what I expected.
[02:56] <Electric|Master> Favorit: I have one hardrive, 2 partitions
[02:56] <Electric|Master> One for Ubuntu and one for W7
[02:56] <heath|OTG> really... I'll check it out
[02:57] <losha> Electric|Master: no swap partition?
[02:57] <Favorit> Electric|Master: well, then it's rather easy, do "fdisk -l /dev/sda", look for the number that has "Linux" as last column, do mount /dev/sd<that_number> /media/root
[02:57] <Electric|Master> ok
[02:57] <Favorit> Electric|Master: and then repeat the grub commando
[02:57] <Favorit> losha: that would be weird custom installation, but well, you never know :P
[02:57] <Electric|Master> Ok. /dev/sd5
[02:57] <morphias> Favorit: u goin commando? lol jk
[02:58] <Favorit> Electric|Master: sda5 then, not sd5
[02:58] <Favorit> sorry, typoed earlier
[02:58] <Electric|Master> I know
[02:58] <Electric|Master> I got it mounted
[02:58]  * Favorit puts a red bandana, labelled as "grub".
[02:58] <Electric|Master> Which one is the boot one?
[02:59] <Favorit> Electric|Master: if you have 2 partitions in the output of fdisk -l, then there is none and only that mount is enough before you will run the grub command
[02:59] <Electric|Master> ok
[02:59] <Electric|Master> So I don't need to mount the /media/root/boot thingy?
[02:59] <zaduma> EASYBCD anyone?
[02:59] <Favorit> nope
[02:59] <Electric|Master> ok I'll try it :)
[03:00] <joshua> anybody know the reason debs don't use bzip2?
[03:00] <heath|OTG> zaduma, I used it before a long time ago
[03:00] <Favorit> zaduma: what does windows vista bootloader tweaker have to do with ubuntu?
[03:00] <Favorit> and its crappy bootcd under it :P
[03:00] <heath|OTG> Favorit, it lets you add boot options like a gui grub
[03:01] <heath|OTG> lol
[03:01] <KindOne> I am Running Xubuntu 9.10 and I have just installed a Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version96) and the only resolution avaliable is 640x480... is there a way to fix this? I am using a Nvidia Geforce 4 440MX SE 64MB
[03:01] <losha> joshua: I thought zip was proprietary. But I lose track of these thing....
[03:01] <CountDown> heath|OTG: Did hibernate work for you?
[03:01] <Electric|Master> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda rught?
[03:01] <heath|OTG> CountDown, not at all
[03:01] <Favorit> Electric|Master: sounds about right
[03:01] <heath|OTG> I take that back, sometimes
[03:01] <Funzo> KindOne:I had the same card, same problem, never found a fix other than switching back to the 2d driver
[03:02] <Electric|Master> Ok I think it worked
[03:02] <Electric|Master> I'll give it a try :)
[03:02] <Favorit> Electric|Master: well, boot and see ;)
[03:02] <zacktu> i have some directories on a storage device that can't be removed -- "input output error" -- if i use "ls -l" the second column is 256 -- what does that mean?  how can i clean up the file system?
[03:02] <Favorit> umount that dir before booting tho
[03:02] <Funzo> KindOne: The nvidia installer was supposedly updated for 9.10 but that version still reports that the version of linux is probably too new
[03:03] <KindOne> Favorit: what driver ? the one on the CD gave me a max resolution of 800x600
[03:03] <joshua> losha: bzip2 not zip
[03:03] <Favorit> KindOne: I bet you mistargetted?
[03:03] <Electric|Master> Ok it works :)
[03:03] <Electric|Master> Thanks a lot Favorit!
[03:03] <Favorit> Electric|Master: you're welcome
[03:04] <Electric|Master> Bye
[03:04] <archet45> could some one answer me a quick question about "fstab" mounting?
[03:04] <Favorit> archet45: don't ask to ask, ask
[03:05] <Garbin> Hello! everyone here.
[03:05] <archet45> i can't mount or unmount my drives and i think its an an issue with fstab, anyone have a tip for me? :)
[03:05] <Garbin> I'm new here
[03:05] <archet45> i cleared the following data from fstab: /dev/sdb2                                  /media/sdb2    ntfs         nls=iso8859-1,umask=000  0  0
[03:05] <archet45> /dev/sdb1                                  /media/sdb1    ntfs         defaults                 0  0
[03:05] <Favorit> archet45: pastebin the fstab :)
[03:05] <Favorit> don't paste it into the channel
[03:05] <greezmunkey> KindOne, are you setting the resolution in System/Administration/Nvidia X Server Settings?
[03:05] <heath|OTG> fireball, any luck?
[03:05] <archet45> Favorit, forgive the noob but do you mean past all the "code" from fstab?
[03:06] <Favorit> archet45: yeah, that would give a better idea what the problem could be. but not to the channel
[03:06] <Favorit> !pastebin archet45
[03:06] <Favorit> !pastebin
[03:06] <greezmunkey> !pastebin | archet45
[03:06] <kaski> Hey guys, I just upgraded to 9.10 and my internet is very slow.
[03:06] <archet45> Favorit, i never knew such a tool/service was available :)
[03:07] <Favorit> greezmunkey: thanksee :)
[03:07] <kaski> Do you have any idea whats wrong?
[03:07] <greezmunkey> hehe I like that thingie
[03:07] <stabu> hrmm
[03:08] <zaduma> EasyBCD? Anyone?
[03:08] <kaski> Firefox takes forever to load google
[03:08] <archet45> do i paste the link of the results here for my pastebin?
[03:08] <stabu> i have 2 extreal dirves that are ntfs and i need the webserver to access them... how could i do this?
[03:08] <Favorit> aye
[03:08] <Favorit> archet45: aye
[03:08] <mhs> hey everybody - i just install 9.10 on a Thinkpad with an intel 2100 wireless card.  I can't get it to connect to my WPA2 router.  I don't see any errors, it just prompts me for my password repeatedly.
[03:09] <mhs> s/install/installed
[03:09] <archet45> another quick question from the noob first lol, am i risking security by pasting the whole contents of my fstab?
[03:09] <Favorit> archet45: no :)
[03:09] <archet45> awesome
[03:09] <archet45> http://paste.ubuntu.com/322970/
[03:09] <zaduma> archet45: no lol
[03:09] <Favorit> archet45: it's just a table of which disks you mount to which dir
[03:09] <heath|OTG> ok guys I'm in
[03:09] <mhs> I can see my router and other routers in my neighborhood, so things seem to be working.
[03:09] <archet45> right on
[03:09] <POY> mhs: make sure /etc/init.d/network-manager is running
[03:09] <heath|OTG> rm -rf /etc
[03:09] <wv5> guys ubuntu or windows 7 ?
[03:10] <stabu> anyone ever use ampache?
[03:10] <archet45> wv5, UBUNTU :)
[03:10] <Garbin> Could someone tell me why the icon on notification area display incomplete when my ubuntu startup?
[03:10] <Billiard> wv5: for doing what?
[03:10] <kaski> wandows 10
[03:10] <wv5> for an everyday use of everything
[03:10] <kaski> when it comes.
[03:10] <archet45> sorry to cap it all like that but i tried both thoroughly and ubuntu/linux by far
[03:10] <Billiard> stabu: apache?
[03:10] <archet45> wv5, depends on what "every day use" is to ya ;)
[03:10] <Favorit> archet45: oke, so what's the issue? what can't you mount?
[03:10] <mhs> poy: thanks, it was running, so that wasn't it.
[03:10] <greezmunkey> Garbin, more details please...
[03:10] <Billiard> stabu: what is everyday use for you?
[03:11] <stabu> not apache ampache
[03:11] <archet45> Favorit, i'm told and think as well that only the root is able to mount, so i can only mount/unmount via terminal
[03:11] <stabu> its a media streaming thing
[03:11] <Favorit> archet45: that's right
[03:11] <mhs> wv5: amiga
[03:11] <stabu> it uses apache
[03:11] <archet45> Favorit, i used to just be able to elevate privaleges and mount/unmount fine
[03:11] <koolmanluke> is the best flash plugin the one provided by flash
[03:11] <koolmanluke> ?
[03:11] <kaski> commodore 64?
[03:11] <Favorit> archet45: sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[03:11] <kaski> koolmanluke: no
[03:12] <Favorit> archet45: that's your privilege elevation
[03:12] <mhs> kaski: commodore 32 ftw
[03:12] <Billiard> stabu: sorry last message wasnt for you
[03:12] <koolmanluke> kaski: gnash?
[03:12] <POY> mhs: there is another script /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant
[03:12] <archet45> Favorit, after i install and use psydm to auto mount at boot i seem to have this issue where i can't even provide credentials to mount etc
[03:12] <greezmunkey> wv5, I use this 9.1 laptop everyday.
[03:12] <Garbin> after my ubuntu startup, I saw the icon such as network manager icon on notificatoin area is not display, but have two ibus icon
[03:12] <joebix> Im lost
[03:12] <Billiard> wv5: what is everyday use for you
[03:12] <kaski> koolmanluke: to be honest i was joking, the original flash plugin is the best
[03:12] <archet45> brb, gotta restart
[03:12] <koolmanluke> kaski: thanks for not throwing me a red herring.
[03:12] <Favorit> archet45: wth is psydm :)
[03:12] <POY> mhs: if your wireless router use WPA or WPA, the script must running.
[03:12] <mhs> POY: I have wpa-ifupdown, but no wpa_supplicant in /etc/init.d
[03:13] <joebix> can somebody help me?
[03:13] <rogue780> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 in windows virtual pc. The problem is that it gives me the maximum resolution of 800x600. Since there is no longer a xorg.conf file, how do I force it to allow resolutions up to 1600x900?
[03:13] <user01> hallo
[03:13] <mhs> POY: I started it just to be sure
[03:13] <heath|OTG> joebix, what's the issue
[03:13] <kaski> why would you install it in a virtual pc
[03:13] <kaski> it just seems like a terrible idea
[03:13] <joebix> Hi heath
[03:13] <joebix> I dont have the sound on my laptop
[03:14] <joebix> I my campus support team tried to help me
[03:14] <greezmunkey> Garbin, did you upgrade or do a clean install?
[03:14] <heath|OTG> joebix, ubuntu 9.10
[03:14] <mhs> POY: The network manager notification applet just keeps spinning, and periodically prompting me for my password.
[03:14] <joebix> but nothing is working
[03:14] <joebix> yes, Karmil Koala
[03:14] <Garbin> a clean install
[03:14] <mhs> POY: Oh well, as long as it isn't something obvious i'm doing.
[03:14] <Billiard> rogue780: you can still use an xorg.conf if you want, you should also try installing the guest additions
[03:14] <user01> sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten
[03:14] <user01> ???????????????ß
[03:14] <heath|OTG> joebix, what is the laptop?
[03:15] <Lucy-23> plllleaseee I need helpppp
[03:15] <greezmunkey> Garbin, hmm hold a minute...
[03:15] <kaski> Lucy-23, what is your problem
[03:15] <user01> sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten
[03:15] <user01> ???????????????ß
[03:15] <joebix> Heat...HP Pavillion dv3-2155
[03:15] <Garbin> OK! thanks!
[03:15] <POY> mhs: hmm... wrong password?
[03:15] <rogue780> Billiard, what guest additions? and also, I don't know how to create the entire xorg.conf for the virtualization...and I don't see how I can just edit that one part for the screen without defining a whole new screen, then i just get confused
[03:16] <kaski> rogue780, there are guest additions that can be installed in a virtual machine, they seem to help with resolution errors
[03:16] <theneoindian> hi how can i start a shell session as another user ?
[03:16] <POY> mhs: are you sure that ur wireless router use WPA2?
[03:16] <mhs> POY: I've double and triple checked the password.  That seems like it, but I'm relatively certain I'm typing it in correctly.
[03:16] <user01> sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???
[03:16] <kaski> rogue780, try to find the guest additions installer in the virtual pc's menus
[03:16] <user01> sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???
[03:16] <Flannel> !de | user01
[03:16] <mhs> POY: I'm relatively certain.  I'm logged in to its admin interface right now on another PC
[03:16] <theneoindian> hi how can i start a shell session as another user ?
[03:16] <heath|OTG> joebix, the only thing not working is your sound?
[03:16] <user01> de
[03:16] <user01> and ru
[03:17] <Strider22> Firefox error console shows this error on reload of the facebook photo upload application.
[03:17] <mhs> WPA2 - PSK
[03:17] <Strider22> Warning: Expected end of value for property but found ','.  Error in parsing value for property 'display'.  Declaration dropped.
[03:17] <Strider22> Source File: http://b.static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/zCK9W/hash/5o7lor52.css
[03:17] <Strider22> Line: 52
[03:17] <joebix> yup, I had a wifi issue before, but now it has been solved
[03:17] <FloodBot1> Strider22: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <stealth-> after getting a upgrade and rebooting, I get this error: mount: /lib/liblkid.so.1: no version information avaliable (required by mount)
[03:17] <theneoindian> pls guys i'm in a real fix .. pls help
[03:17] <stealth-> and all my hd's are now read only :(
[03:17] <theneoindian> hi how can i start a shell session as another user ?
[03:17] <joebix> but for the sound I have no solution so far
[03:17] <Billiard> rogue780: download the guest additions package on your host machine, then choose the mouse "guest addtions" option in virtual box, mount cd and run the install script in ur guest os
[03:17] <stealth-> God, why cant ubuntu be rolling release?!
[03:17] <Billiard> rogue780: mount "guest additions" *
[03:18] <POY> mhs: it's weird.
[03:18] <mhs> thenoindian: sudo -U otheruser bash
[03:18] <rogue780> being that virtual pc is a microsoft product, they don't seem to have additions for linux
[03:18] <user01> so schnell
[03:18] <user01> :((
[03:18] <mhs> POY: can you think of anywhere that any error messages might end up?
[03:18] <user01> ich bin user01
[03:18] <user01> :::)))
[03:18] <mhs> POY: dmesg is the only place I can think of, and there's nothing correlated.
[03:18] <rogue780> hmm....guess i'll try virtualbox
[03:19] <user01> sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???
[03:19] <rogue780> !de
[03:19] <Roasted> rogue780 - I love virtualbox. using it right now.
[03:19] <theneoindian> sudo: the `-U' option may only be used with the `-l' option
[03:19] <Roasted> rogue780 - I have about 18 or 19 vitrual machines installed in virtualbox that I use here and there.
[03:19] <heath|OTG> joebix, do you know how to use the terminal?
[03:19] <joebix> well, a little bit
[03:19] <user01> sudo su sudo su   blalbablablablabla
[03:19] <user01> sagen Sie bitte? wie kann ich foto bearbeiten???
[03:20] <joebix> If u guide me I can
[03:20] <Flannel> !de | user01
[03:20] <mhs> thenoindian: sudo -u otheruser bash
[03:20] <heath|OTG> type: lspci | grep -i audio
[03:20] <flagman> seu delegado mmsd tadeu ele pegoua minha irma e nha
[03:20] <mhs> thenoindian: note the lower case u
[03:20] <Flannel> user01: This channel is english only.  For german, please /join #ubuntu-de
[03:20] <user01> danke
[03:20] <user01> uuuuffff
[03:20] <Billiard> rogue780: o sorry, i didnt realized you were using virtual pc, id recomend virtual box, ive found it works better than vpc for linux guests
[03:20] <user01> tschussssss
[03:20] <POY> mhs: i found this path /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[03:21] <mhs> POY: interesting.  Mine's empty
[03:21] <theneoindian> mhs,  thanx buddy
[03:21] <walkinginLA> FUCK UBUNTU
[03:21] <Garbin> Roasted, I use vbox too, but when I upgrade to 9.10, I get a problem that is the left ctrl key be auto pressed sometime... I don't know why, do you have the same problem?
[03:21] <joebix> Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:21] <zaduma> Lol at walkinginLA
[03:21] <POY> mhs: NetworkManader use this path to restore it's configuration.
[03:21] <mhs> hmm
[03:21] <joebix> dat's the output
[03:22] <heath|OTG> joebix, that should work with ubuntu. Do you have an audio icon?
[03:22] <Roasted> Garbin - when you say you upgraded to 9.10, is this machine a VM machine or is it your core OS youre running vbox on?
[03:22] <joebix> hm, yes
[03:23] <Garbin> My host is Ubuntu, and guest is windows xp.
[03:23] <POY> mhs: empty? i have no idea...
[03:23] <heath|OTG> double click it and make sure everything is up
[03:23] <zaduma> EasyBCD and Grub2? Anyone?
[03:23] <stealth-> well, screw ubuntu, I'm changing to debian :/ With all these upgrade problems, and no solutions, i'm suprized I didn't do it sooner
[03:23] <heath|OTG> damn... joebix I have to go
[03:23] <Roasted> Garbin - Im not sure. Ubuntu 9.10 introduced enough problems to my PC that I dropped back to 9.04 and intend to stay there. :(
[03:24] <heath|OTG> Look around in there, the sound should be working.
[03:24] <heath|OTG> later everyone
[03:24] <joebix> I have nothing :'(
[03:24] <fireball> heath|OTG: thanks, that did it!
[03:24] <heath|OTG> NICE!
[03:24] <mrpinky> hi :D i created and formatted a partition using GParted, but it seems that the partition is owned by "root", so i can't create any files or directories. how do i create/format the partition so that i can use it?
[03:24] <fireball> heath|OTG: you're a champion! :)
[03:24] <heath|OTG> joebix, keep looking through those settings
[03:24] <heath|OTG> later
[03:25] <mhs> POY: do you know anything about wpa_supplicant/  ?  I'd be willing to try disabling NetworkManager
[03:25] <eli7777> i'm having a problem with the cx18 driver and the nvidia driver. i'm already chanced the grub to vmalloc="512m" and i cant fine anything online that will make the nvidia driver work
[03:25] <eli7777> changed*
[03:25] <donald_> I just downloaded the STA driver for bcm94311mcg - can anyone help me install the tar.gz?
[03:25] <user01> ich suche lamer
[03:25] <greezmunkey> Garbin, go to Applications/Internet and see if you have a launcher for Network Manager, if so run it.
[03:25] <tck9> i boot up my system from sda right now (non raid). i have setup raid1 on sdb & sdc right now and copied all the files over.. if i remove sda and put sdb & sdc in the first 2 sata slots, would the raid array automatically be recognized by linux on bootup and mount correctly? (kernel has raid1 support)
[03:26] <Garbin> greezmunkey, I try it now
[03:26] <POY> mhs: there is some scirpt in /etc/wpa_supplicant/,
[03:27] <mhs> I'll have to figure out what they do.
[03:27] <joebix> everything is up, but I still cant here anything
[03:27] <Garbin> greezmunkey, I have no launcher for network manager now, what sould I do?
[03:27] <mhs> POY: The laptop in question is only going to connect to this one router
[03:27] <mhs> POY: So NetworkManager may be overkill
[03:27] <supercom32> So I want to build an Ubuntu server. Is it fair to say that 2 single core CPU's will out perform one dual core CPU? In terms of multitasking and speed?
[03:27] <POY> mhs: Ubuntu use two way to configure network. /etc/init.d/networking and /etc/network-manager
[03:27] <mhs> supercom32: no
[03:28] <eli7777> any one know what might fix this? any one had a problem with a turner card and nvidia card not working that changing  vmalloc= didnt fix?
[03:28] <POY> mhs: just only use NetworkManager.
[03:28] <supercom32> mhs: So what is the reality check? :P
[03:28] <joebix> sniff, abandoned
[03:28] <Garbin> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome? or create a launcher manual?
[03:28] <joebix> anyone can help me?
[03:28] <mhs> POY: You think I'm better off avoiding /etc/init.d/networking?
[03:29] <user01> #ubuntu-de  da kein pipel
[03:29] <innociv> "sudo chmod 755 -r /etc/aped
[03:29] <innociv> "  returns "chmod: cannot access `755': No such file or directory" what am I doing wrong? D:
[03:29] <user01> wer kent deutsch
[03:29] <user01> wer kent deutsch???
[03:29] <user01> kennt
[03:29] <user01> :::)
[03:29] <KindOne> joebix: what is wrong?
[03:29] <mhs> supercom32: Dual Core CPU's are pretty fast.  The only reason multiple CPU's could outperform multiple cores is because they have more total memory bandwidth.
[03:29] <POY> mhs: may be there is something in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:30] <cross> elo
[03:30] <joebix> I have a problem with my sound
[03:30] <bastid_raZor> innociv: /etc/aped does not exist.
[03:30] <joebix> since I installed ubuntu, no sound
[03:30] <innociv> Yeah it does..
[03:30] <KindOne> joebix: please be more specific
[03:30] <joebix> HP Pavillion dv3-2155
[03:30] <franklin> hola amigos
[03:30] <mhs> supercom32: but for 99% of server applications, it doesn't matter.  In fact, for the same power consumption, the dual core CPU will be higher clock speed.
[03:30] <franklin> una pregunta
[03:30] <innociv> it looks like it sees 755 as the folder
[03:30] <cross> Polen :)
[03:30] <joebix> I cant hear anything
[03:31] <joebix> there's no sound
[03:31] <franklin> alguien que me pueda recomendar como puedo programar en php en un entrono que sea parecido o mejor a dreamweaver
[03:31] <joebix> but when I switch to windows vista, I have the sound
[03:31] <Billiard> joebix: does sound work on the live cd?
[03:31] <akav> Anyone know of a network monitoring tool that shows the time packets are sent?
[03:31] <KindOne> joebix: do you see the speaker next to the clock ?
[03:31] <joebix> yes Kind One
[03:32] <donald_> hello - trying to get my broadcom wireless (bcm94311mcg) nic working - downloaded the tar.gz from broadcom's site, extracted it ... now what? :)  Anyone??
[03:32] <mhs> akav: wireshark?
[03:32] <supercom32> mhs: Are dual core machines as effective in multitasking as 2 single cpu's? Or is there overhead within a dual core CPU which makes it slightly slower?
[03:32] <Billiard> !who | joebix
[03:32] <joebix> I have clicked on it, and put the volume to 100%
[03:32] <joebix> still nothing
[03:32] <donald_> drivers don't show up in hardware drivers
[03:32] <KindOne> joebix: do you see "Sound Cards"
[03:32] <mhs> supercom32: dual core machines have two cpu's on one die.
[03:33] <mhs> supercom32: the only difference is 1) for licensing some applications like Oracle, and b) memory bandwidth.
[03:33] <joebix> sound card?
[03:33] <joebix> where?
[03:33] <supercom32> mhs: Ok, memory bandwith is the only bottle neck then for a dual core cpu to complete with?
[03:33] <joebix> under the sound preferences, I see hardware
[03:33] <greezmunkey> Garbin, you could try that, but it should already be there, try this in a terminal "ps aux | grep -e work" (no quotes) and see if anything called network manager shows up
[03:34] <mcurran> lshw | grep 'sound'    maybe?
[03:34] <mhs> supercom32: its not much of a bottleneck, except for some HPC applications
[03:34] <joebix> and it says Internal Audio 1 output/1 input
[03:34] <Garbin> OK
[03:34] <joebix> Analog Stereo Duplex
[03:34] <KindOne> joebix: click the speaker icon, and when it open, you will see the text  "Sound Cards" and to the right of that, there should be your sound card. if there is, click it.
[03:34] <akav> mhs: Just looked at a video on the website. Wireshark looks like it might do the trick.
[03:34] <akav> mhs: I was using IPTraf, which has no time measurement that I can find.
[03:34] <mhs> supercom32: and dual core CPU's are superior in terms of power consumption (and thus heat output too.)
[03:35] <mhs> akav: wireshark is pretty nifty
[03:35] <Garbin> greezmunkey, yes I see, that is an item called NetworkManager
[03:35] <akav> mhs: Cool, installing now. Thanks.
[03:35] <supercom32> mhs: Good point. Would you happen to know how many processors/cores Ubuntu supports?
[03:35] <mhs> supercom32: off the top of my head?  I'd guess there's no practical limit.
[03:36] <greezmunkey> Garbin, in thet output do you see the pid number...should be the second entry
[03:36] <Billiard> supercom32: more than you will ever have linux suppors like 64 or something crazy
[03:36] <mhs> I was going to say 96
[03:36] <supercom32> mhs: Well, microsoft OS's support a limited number based on distro, so... Just wondering.
[03:36] <Garbin> yes, something like 922?
[03:37] <eli7777> my computer is booting up in low graphics mode if i have the nvidia driver active.
[03:37] <Garbin> the seconed column?
[03:37] <akav> and out comes Sierra Nevada #2.
[03:37] <mcurran> well does ubuntu know how to properly allocate usage for a core i7 or does that all happen in the cpu itself
[03:37] <Garbin> greezmunkey, the second column?
[03:37] <KindOne> joebix: did you dix the issue?
[03:37] <mhs> supercom32: the reason Microsoft restricts the number of processors is not because their OS doesn't support it, but because if you are willing to pay lots of money for a system with 32 cores, they know you can pay thousands for an OS.
[03:37] <Garbin> I kill it?
[03:37] <Garbin> greezmunkey, I kill it?
[03:38] <supercom32> Anyone know if VMware still king of virtualization? Or has any challengers stepped up?
[03:38] <supercom32> mhs: I see. Ok, thanks for your help.
[03:38] <joebix> Kind One, still nothing
[03:38] <archet45> got it solved, just installed ntfs-configuration tool :)
[03:38] <mcurran> eli7777 what nvidia card are you using?
[03:38] <Billiard> supercom32: virtualbox works pretty good for anything i ever have to do
[03:38] <eli7777> the 9800 gtx
[03:38] <KindOne> supercom32: i use Sun VirtualBox when i am running Windows as the host OS
[03:39] <supercom32> Billiard: Is there any cons/pros you have for it over another package like QEMM or VMWare?
[03:39] <greezmunkey> Garbin, in you terminal type "sudo kill -HUP {your pid}" (no quotes, braces)
[03:39] <eli7777> the driver i'm using is the 190.42
[03:39] <joebix> when I click on the speaker, there's only the string to increase the volume
[03:39] <joebix> nothing else
[03:39] <archet45> anyone wanna guess what completely did it for me with windows? lol
[03:39] <Billiard> supercom32: not sure, never used QEMM
[03:39] <supercom32> KindOne: Hmm. I'd be intrested in using linux as a host if possible. ;P
[03:39] <mcurran> how did you install the nvidia driver (manually, hardware drivers app, or envyng)
[03:40] <archet45> i use the "easy transfer tool" to migrate my data from one computer to another and all M$ can say is its "corrupt"
[03:40] <KindOne> joebix: see the "select controls"... check the master box
[03:40] <archet45> no error code, nothing
[03:40] <eli7777> manually from the .run file
[03:40] <KindOne> supercom32: im currently running Xubuntu with Wubi lol and im running WINE and using mIRC
[03:40] <andres_berni> hola
[03:40] <Garbin> greezmunkey, I did it , but nothing happend
[03:41] <joebix> where do I find it?Im not an expert in Ubuntu
[03:41] <supercom32> KindOne: Ya, I'm doing similar monkey business with my linux machine too:P
[03:41] <mcurran> I'd give envyng a try, or maybe use the restricted driver in the hardware drivers app if you can.
[03:41] <greezmunkey> Garbin, you there?
[03:41] <Garbin> yes, I'm here
[03:41] <Garbin> greezmunkey, yes I'm here
[03:41] <mcurran> eli777 cause it sounds like somethings missing in xorg and the module isn't getting loaded
[03:41] <KindOne> joebix: please add the name of the person you are talking too... and what do you want to find ?
[03:41] <Garbin> greezmunkey, I did it, but nothing happend
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Garbin, did you get my post about the kill -HUP?
[03:42] <joebix> Kind One: sorry
[03:42] <supercom32> Anyone have experience with running ubuntu using a dual core atom setup?
[03:42] <eli7777> so remove the 190 driver and install the 185?
[03:42] <joebix> Kind One: where do I find the sound controls?
[03:42] <Garbin> yes, I run it, but nothing happend
[03:42] <Garbin> greezmunkey, Yes, I run it, but nothing happend
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Garbin, no MN icon?
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Garbin, ok, do this in a term
[03:43] <greezmunkey> Garbin, oops! "sudo killall NetworkManager
[03:43] <luis_> real player ubunto
[03:43] <LordHawke13> Is there some sort of plug-in I can get for any of my archiving software to work with Macintosh Disk Images? (*.DMG)
[03:43] <andres_berni> algun español
[03:43] <eli7777> well it was working but i install the cx18 driver for my tuner card and changed the grub file vmalloc="512m"
[03:43] <andres_berni> ??
[03:44] <KindOne> joebix: Click the Speaker Icon -> Select your Sound Card -> Now click Select Control -> and select the Master.
[03:44] <joebix> Kind One: when I click on the speaker, I only have the string to increase the volume, nothing else
[03:45] <KindOne> joebix: if that does not work, you might want to try the Ubuntu Forums. and be very specific about your computer spec's and the issue.
[03:45] <joebix> Kind One: thanks for ur help
[03:45] <greezmunkey> Garbin, any luck?
[03:46] <rance94> can vim be a good place to write c code or should i use emacs???
[03:46] <mhs> POY: I had my stupid router set to 802.11g only mode.
[03:47] <Garbin> greezmunkey, thanks for your help:),but, sorry for my fault, the problem will happen when I startup my ubuntu sometimes, but now is fine, I will give a try for it next time I get this problem.
[03:47] <greezmunkey> Stupid router, only does what you tell it to! :]
[03:47] <darknezz> i have a question about alsa.... im using version 9.10 and my mic and line 1 was not working.. so i installed the new version of alsa (from website) and loaded it on... it was working fine for like a hour then it stopped working again... if someone can help me out that would be nice :)
[03:47] <rance94> can i use vim to write c code or should i use emacs???
[03:47] <mhs> vim++
[03:47] <rance94> mhs that is just regular vim right??
[03:48] <Garbin> greezmunkey, I want to know how can I have a normal startup without run that command?
[03:48] <toffan> hello
[03:48]  * greezmunkey hates to offer up "reboot" as a troubleshooting measure
[03:48] <toffan> i need a help
[03:48] <greezmunkey> Garbin, how did you resolve it this time?
[03:48] <mhs> rance94: I'm applying the postfix ++ operator to vim, because I like vim
[03:48] <rsk> rance94 both works
[03:48] <seidos> how do i install xfce?
[03:48] <IdleOne> toffan: ask and if someone can help they will
[03:48] <rance94> mhs o ok
[03:48] <rsk> seidos sudo apt-get install xfce
[03:48] <Garbin> reboot it.
[03:48] <Garbin> it happend sometime
[03:48] <KindOne> toffan:what do you need help with ?
[03:49] <mhs> rance94: I guess that's c++, but oh well
[03:49] <toffan> I have an dontnet application .. how to run that in ubuntu?
[03:49] <Garbin> greezmunkey, I reboot it, or relogin.
[03:49] <rance94> mhs: soo i need help with vim like how do i run/compile after i type the code?
[03:49] <Garbin> greezmunkey, It happend sometime
[03:49] <JMcJson> !german
[03:49] <mhs> rance94: ctrl+z, then type make
[03:49] <greezmunkey> Garbin, it could be several things. Perhaps the point in the boot process where it is loading has a conflict, I'm guessing.
[03:49] <KindOne> toffen: never heard of that, is it designed for a different OS ?
[03:49] <mhs> rance94: then type fg and fix what didn't compile
[03:49] <seidos> rsk: E:  couldn't find package xfce
[03:50] <mhs> rance94: or look at eclipse
[03:50] <rance94> ahhh thx alot this works with c++ right casue if it does i might yell and rejoice and luv vim
[03:50] <rance94> mhs i dont like eclipse i could never get it to work lol i like vim
[03:50] <greezmunkey> Garbin, I unloaded NM for some of the same reasons, I use wicd, which works for me.
[03:50] <IdleOne> !pm | toffan
[03:50] <mhs> rance94: an even better solution is to use gnu screen with vim
[03:51] <toffan>   I have a problem that I can not run an application (Trade Tiger) for which I works. That was an made by Dotnet Framework. You can download that application at:  http://www.sharekhan.com/tradetiger/setupnew.html .
[03:51] <Garbin> greezmunkey, thanks for your help, I will try wicd:)
[03:51] <LordHawke13> What application should I have set to run for Compiz's "Take Screenshot"?
[03:51] <mhs> rance94: then you can have your editor in one screen, and run make in another screen, and switch back and forth
[03:52] <Garbin> greezmunkey, wicd is another gui network manager?
[03:52] <rance94> mhs can u pm me because i dont know how to do that
[03:52] <seidos> why can't i access this page?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473331
[03:52] <Garbin> does it works fine on 3G network?
[03:52] <ubuntunewbie> hi all ubuntu 9.10 is faster than xp???
[03:52] <LordHawke13> I can. . .
[03:52] <KindOne> toffan: that program is designed for Windows. if you want to run it on Ubuntu, you need to install WINE.
[03:52] <greezmunkey> Garbin, if you use the package manager, first go to wicd's web site. You have to import some settings first, but the cool part is that once you do, NM will be unloaded as part of the install proc!
[03:52] <LordHawke13> YES!!
[03:52] <Garbin> greezmunkey, Does it works fine on 3Gnetwork
[03:52] <linxeh> seidos: what error ?
[03:52] <toffan> where to install that?
[03:52] <toffan> wine
[03:52] <seidos> linxeh: correction, can't post a reply
[03:52] <Garbin> greezmunkey, OK
[03:53] <KindOne> open Terminal
[03:53] <mikubuntu> just updated my laptop to 9.10 through the update mgr ... now i don't have sound (do have video) ... when i tried to open pulseaudio, got: connection failed...
[03:53] <iOmlette> !wine | toffan
[03:53] <LordHawke13> ubuntunewbie, You must truely be a newbie. . . Of course it's faster. But they don't want you to know that. . .
[03:53] <adamot> has anyone succesfully installed Zune software on Ubuntu Karmic without using a virtual machine?
[03:53] <greezmunkey> Garbin, don't know don't use one, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't. The only thing I know it won't do is vpn's but there are ways around that which I like better anyway.
[03:53] <mhs> rance94: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gnu+screen
[03:53] <ubuntunewbie> on my pc ubuntu is slower than xp! how to fix it?
[03:54] <IdleOne> KindOne: I doubt that will work even in wine but worth a shot
[03:54] <mhs> rance94: got a lot on my plate right now
[03:54] <KindOne> adamot: have you tried through WINE ?
[03:54] <LordHawke13> ubuntunewbie, What have you done to it?
[03:54] <linxeh> seidos: did you read the green box at the top ?
[03:54] <Garbin> greezmunkey, OK, thanks:)
[03:54] <KindOne> IdleOne: never know if it will work unless people try.
[03:54] <adamot> KindOne, it has been tried and doesn't work
[03:55] <vock> I'm running Jaunty right now, and want to install Python(x,y), however there is no jaunty repository yet. Would anything go wrong installing from the Ibex repo? Is it generally safe to do things like this?
[03:55] <toffan> thank you very much ubontu
[03:55] <toffan> can we chat privately for sometimes..?
[03:55] <rance94> mhs: o ok well that control z thing didnt work :(
[03:55] <tenna_smle> Can anyone help me install vmware tools for Ubuntu?
[03:55] <KindOne> adamot: does it require any software like .NET Frameworks? or something? and if it does, have you tried installing that first then Zune?
[03:55] <mhs> rance94: don't give up on it.  screen + vim == very powerful and fast
[03:56] <adamot> KindOne, I'm not sure... I'll look into that later thanks for the advice!
[03:57] <greezmunkey> tenna_smle, why not run VirtualBox?
[03:57] <tenna_smle> When I try to log into Ubuntu with VmWare, I get a screen that stops everything saying tools needs to be installed
[03:57] <tenna_smle> tenna_smle, vmWare is free for me
[03:57] <fcuk112> i was playing around with byobu, and suddenly when i start byobu now i don't see the bar at the bottom, anyone know why?
[03:57] <greezmunkey> tenna_smle, good reason :)
[03:57] <tenna_smle> greenzmunkey can you help me get this up?  and why do youy say that?  Is VMware not good?
[03:58] <greezmunkey> tenna_smle, I'm sure it's fine, but I've heard some things... VirtualBox installed and runs flawlessly for me.
[03:58] <toffan> hi ubontu, is there any thing else wabout WINE ..?
[03:59] <KindOne> http://www.zune.net/en-us/support/usersguide/gettingstarted/pcreqs.htm
[03:59] <vock> Is there anything wrong with installing Intrepid Packages on Jaunty?
[04:00] <iOmlette> You might have some version conflicts, vock.
[04:00] <KindOne> adamot:  here  http://www.zune.net/en-us/support/usersguide/gettingstarted/pcreqs.htm
[04:00] <greezmunkey> toffan, try here: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[04:00] <iOmlette> But otherwise, shouldn't be.
[04:00] <jongbergs> !wine
[04:00] <ubuntunewbie> www.kingwarez.tk free softwares
[04:00] <iOmlette> Uh huh.
[04:01] <Random832> vock, if the package installs it should work fine
[04:01] <iOmlette> I'm pretty sure advertising a warez site is against the rules.
[04:01] <Random832> is the general rule to go by
[04:01]  * greezmunkey thought toffan already looked there but that it wasn't enough for (him/her)
[04:01] <jrib> ubuntunewbie: ubuntu.com for better free software.  Also don't do that please
[04:01] <stealth_> could somebody on the latest ubuntu version dcc me their /lib/libblkid.so.1 Or better yet, tell me how to get it without apt-get?
[04:01] <xorso> Anyone know how to change the splash screen and login page resolution?
[04:01] <rance94> how to i split the screen in vim im trying but it wont work. will somebody help me???
[04:01] <toffan> thank you verymuch ubontu
[04:01] <jrib> rance94: /join #vim
[04:01] <rance94> ahh
[04:01] <xorso> rance94: Try ctrl +w n
[04:02] <Random832> rance94, do :split instead of :edit, or do :new
[04:02] <jongbergs> !usplash
[04:02] <greg_universe> I lost my system tray How do I get get it back?
[04:03] <xorso> ubottu: Will the artwork image size change the resolution? I need to also change the resolution because it boots with 1600x1200 and my monitor can't go that high.
[04:03] <Timmymayes> anyone have any familiarity with nvidia cards under linux?
[04:03] <mcurran> right click on the bottom of the desktop screen and click new panel
[04:03] <mcurran> I do somewhat
[04:03] <jongbergs> greg_universe: pres alt+f2 then type gconftool --recursive-unset /app/panel && killall gnome-panel
[04:04] <KindOne> Timmymayes: what is your issue?
[04:04] <Timmymayes> well
[04:04] <Timmymayes> stepmania
[04:04] <Timmymayes> a ddr clone
[04:04] <Timmymayes> it has a linux installer
[04:04] <Timmymayes> which i did
[04:04] <Timmymayes> it runs
[04:04] <FloodBot1> Timmymayes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <stealth_> could somebody on the latest ubuntu version dcc me their /lib/libblkid.so.1 Or better yet, tell me how to get it without apt-get?
[04:04] <cytotoxic> Ubuntu is a disease
[04:04] <Timmymayes> But i get 1 fps...the fix is to disable texture clamping. I have no idea how.
[04:04] <cytotoxic> my immune system will attack it on sight
[04:05] <jongbergs> greg_universe: did it work?
[04:05] <cytotoxic> I ALREADY HAVE ANTIBODYS AGINST UBUNTU
[04:05] <puff> Hello?  My mouse pointer is frozen.
[04:05] <xorso> Anyone have any idea how to change the resolution of the splash and login screens?
[04:05] <iOmlette> So why are you here, cytotoxic?
[04:05] <puff> After resume-from-suspend.
[04:05] <cytotoxic> BECAUSE UBUNTU IS A DISEASE
[04:05] <greezmunkey> cytotoxic, thanks for sharing winbot
[04:05] <cytotoxic> I AM IMMUNE TO IT
[04:05] <Random832> stealth_, why do you need it without apt-get?
[04:05] <puff> Please don't feed the trolls.
[04:06] <Dayofswords> i can figure out how to choose what keys to encypt with in evolution, i can find any options anywhere
[04:06]  * iOmlette sighs.
[04:06] <greezmunkey> !
[04:06] <greg_universe> still don't have my tray
[04:06] <cytotoxic> FEED THE TROLLS
[04:06] <puff> They're lonely and pathetic enough wtihout the encouragement.
[04:06] <cytotoxic> FUCK UBUNTU
[04:06] <mcurran> Timmymayes you don't have any emulation Option(s) set in xorg.conf do you?
[04:06] <Dayofswords> i CANT figure out i mean
[04:06] <puff> So, mouse pointer frozen, anybody?
[04:06] <stealth_> Random832: because apt-get isn't working because it can't write to the filesystem because mount can't mount it as write because libblkid.so.1 is messed up. :(
[04:06] <iOmlette> Zing.
[04:06] <jongbergs> !startupmanager | xorso
[04:06] <mcurran> puff - buy a new computer
[04:06] <mcurran> haha
[04:06] <puff> The icon still transforms to a hand when over a link, but clicknig doesn't do anthing.
[04:06] <jongbergs> xorso: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[04:06] <Timmymayes> mcurran, I don't think so Its default ubuntu install
[04:06] <Random832> stealth_, what filesystem is this that requires a userspace library to mount?
[04:07] <xorso> jongbergs: Htanks I will give that a try.
[04:07] <mcurran> Are you running a nvidia driver timmy
[04:07] <ubuntunewbie> How to speed up ubuntu?
[04:07] <Random832> anyway, you can download the pakcage from http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libblkid1, and extract it by hand
[04:07] <jonzbcc> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. The graphical system monitor app shows memory resources being used at like 80% when ubuntu finishes logging in. (with the usual start up programs). It used to be (9.04) that the usual clutter of the start-up apps were only taking up a small amount of memory. So, I logged in (i am now) to failsafe gnome, and see everything is the way it was when I was at 9.04 (only 30% memory in use). Can anyone suggest w
[04:07] <jonzbcc> here to start? Or am I dumb for doing an upgrade and not a clean-install?
[04:07] <mcurran> I don't think startupmanager works in karmic
[04:07] <stealth_> Random832: ext4, I believe. I'd check, but libblkid.so.1 says there is no information avaliable.
[04:08] <jrib> jonzbcc: figure out what applications are responsible for the memory usage exactly
[04:08] <Jordan_U> stealth_: You can chroot in from a LiveCD and reinstall libblkid1
[04:08] <Random832> stealth_, you may need to boot from a livecd to fix it
[04:08] <Jordan_U> stealth_: What is the exact error you are getting?
[04:08] <greezmunkey> ubuntunewbie, in a terminal, run top, look at it...check your cpu %'s, swap size, and amount used, etc.
[04:09] <stealth_> Jordan_U, Random832: I know, which is why I'm asking where I can find the updated file. Ubuntu didn't upgrade it during the upgrade from 9.04, I'm assuming
[04:09] <jonzbcc> jrib: well, when I was logged in normal Gnome, the "processes tab" of "system monitor" showed everything in the CPU column was at 0. should I just run "top" at the command line, and let you knwo what shows?
[04:09] <Random832> huh??
[04:09] <stealth_> Jordan_U: mount: /lib/libblkid.so.1: no version information available (required by mount)\
[04:09] <Dayofswords> i cant figure out how to choose what keys to encrypt with in evolution, i can find any options anywhere
[04:09] <mcurran> stealth_ I was getting a mount error like that and I just ran the recovery kernel from grub and did resume normal boot (rebooted) and it was fine
[04:09] <jonzbcc> jrib (i would 've just run "top", but only thought of tha tnow)
[04:09] <jrib> jonzbcc: well system monitor can also sort my memory usage
[04:09] <Random832> i posted a link to where you can download the package
[04:09] <stealth_> mcurran: hmmm, okay I guess i'll try that next. Thanks :)
[04:10] <Jordan_U> stealth_: Do you know what chroot does?
[04:10] <stealth_> Random832: sorry, I missed that. I got it now. Thanks
[04:10] <tenna_smle> ok so I can't get ubuntu 8.04 LTS on my VMWare up and running
[04:10] <tenna_smle> Should I try 9.04 or 9.10 next?
[04:10] <Random832> stealth_, that gets you the .deb, you still need a way to either install it or extract it by hand
[04:10] <tenna_smle> which one is better to install?
[04:10] <stealth_> Jordan_U: yeah, I'm pretty familiar with linux.
[04:10] <stealth_> Random832: I figure i'll just do it by hand
[04:11] <Random832> do you know how to extract a deb by hand?
[04:11] <mcurran> stealth manual - open terminal "sudo dpkg -i "packagename"
[04:11] <puff> tenna_smle: Generally people recommend the latest, e.g. 9.10.
[04:11] <greezmunkey> tenna_smle, you might as well "go for the throat" and install 9.10!
[04:11] <tenna_smle> puff, but has it been debugged sufficiently?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> stealth_: Then just chroot in via livecd and run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libblkid1"
[04:11] <puff> tenna_smle: I'm not saying *I* recommend it, I tend to be gunshy about late-recurring bugs.
[04:11] <puff> tenna_smle: But karmic's been out for a while, so.
[04:11] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys have they fixed the annoyances with installing kde alongside gnome, kinda like some kde logos/screens etc override the system?
[04:11] <Random832> i'd recommend the chroot solution though tbh
[04:12] <stealth_> Jordan_U: hmm, yeah I guess I could do that too. Lol, thanks :)
[04:12] <beto> Buenas noches, tengo una duda respecto a los messenger de linux. o no se que demonios hice en estos dias... Cambio el Alias/Apodo, cierro y cuando me vuelvo a conectar se pone mi nombre Beto otra vez... probe con el pidgin, amsn, empathy y sigo con ese problema
[04:12] <tenna_smle> I must say.  Installing Ubuntu on VMWare... ROTS
[04:12] <Dayofswords>  i need some help, i cant figure out how to choose what keys to encrypt with in evolution, i cant find any options anywhere
[04:12] <puff> linuxguy2009: As of earlier this week, I believe "no"
[04:12] <Jordan_U> stealth_: np
[04:12] <beto> Buenas noches, tengo una duda respecto a los messenger de linux. o no se que demonios hice en estos dias... Cambio el Alias/Apodo, cierro y cuando me vuelvo a conectar se pone mi nombre Beto otra vez... probe con el pidgin, amsn, empathy y sigo con ese problema
[04:12] <puff> linuxguy2009: I was helping somebody sort out a problem where we had installed gnome desktop and then they wanted kde, then they upgraded to karmic.
[04:12] <greezmunkey> tenna_smle, ROTS?
[04:12] <puff> linuxguy2009: and kxm and gdm were fighting, so they could'nt use xdmcp.
[04:12] <linuxguy2009> puff: thank you
[04:12] <Jordan_U> !es | beto
[04:12] <mcurran> Hey, does anyone know how to mask your ip address without connecting through an outside proxy on ubuntu?
[04:12] <tenna_smle> greenzmunkey pretty much
[04:12] <puff> linuxguy2009: So, I'm not certainyl what problems exactly you were worried about, but it appears that one isn't solved yet.
[04:13] <dr3mro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8352033
[04:13] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Who are you trying to mask your ip address from?
[04:13] <greezmunkey> tenna_smle, I was asking what that means, guess I'm a bit thick tonight...
[04:13] <puff> I want to make an ubuntu upgrade-check tool that checks the bug database for any bugs reported for your hardware configuration and any drastic changes to your currently selected packages, to warn you if a dist-upgrade might be rocky.
[04:13] <dr3mro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8352033
[04:13] <mcurran> Well yesterday I got shunned on the linuxmint server for xchat and was looking for a way around it, now I just wanna know if its possible
[04:14] <linuxguy2009> My other question is with netbook remix 9.10, is there a way to rearrange the launchers in favorites?
[04:14] <tenna_smle> ew remix
[04:14] <tenna_smle> sorry that just came out
[04:14] <stealth_> mcurran: reset your router? Thats probably the easiest way
[04:14] <stealth_> mcurran: unless they ban the whole range, then just use tor or something
[04:15] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Please don't try to evade bans, it will be lifted eventually and as long as you don't troll you won't get banned
[04:16] <greezmunkey> stealth, I've tried that on my connection, the lease time is too long!
[04:16] <mcurran> Well I was told it was permanent, so...
[04:16] <muri_one> is there a process viewer that has more features and is more user friendly than top, but isn't quite as cpu intensive as htop?
[04:16] <mcurran> stealth_ what is tor?  It's not a package right?
[04:17] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Most IRC servers won't allow connections through tor without a cloak anyway, so tor won't help you
[04:17] <judaman> muri_one, what problem do you have with regular top?
[04:17] <TTilus> mcurran: http://www.torproject.org/
[04:18] <ubuntunewbie> www.kingwarez.tk free software download
[04:18] <adamot> what exactly is Tor?
[04:18] <TTilus> adamot: 06:17 < TTilus> mcurran: http://www.torproject.org/
[04:18] <judaman> is tor even usable nowadays? the speeds were horrible last time i used it.
[04:19] <TTilus> judaman: speeds are horrible, but if the alternative is to get you head chopped, it'll do very well
[04:19] <linuxman410> i lost my top bar in ubuntu 8,04 how do i get it back the bar that says applications and places and system is gone need to get it back
[04:19] <muri_one> judaman: I mainly like the horizontal and vertical scrolling of htop. it's nice on my netbook
[04:19] <muri_one> in small terminal windowsw
[04:19] <bazhang> !resetpanels | linuxman410
[04:19] <judaman> muri_one, you sit in top scrolling up and down? lol
[04:20] <muri_one> and searching
[04:20] <judaman> i dont see a point in using top to see other then the "top" processes, anything other just use ps
[04:20] <muri_one> the horizontal scrolling is the main thing. sometimes I can't see what the process is
[04:21] <muri_one> thanks for laughing at me for wanting a nicer version of top.
[04:21] <judaman> ahh horizontal, i read vertical, lol long day
[04:22] <muri_one> I can also kill a process quicker in htop
[04:22] <muri_one> without having to transcribe the process id
[04:22] <judaman> you need to learn the basic tool of ps and kill man
[04:23] <judaman> no need to top and killing processes via top and all that jazz
[04:23] <mcurran> why do so many open source projects tell you to add repos to your sources list, instead of just providing the packages on their site?
[04:24] <nic1> hi..i run the command mplayer videofile in the terminal, but if i need to exec this in a config, how do i have to do? i tried exec(mplayer videofile), it crashes
[04:24] <judaman> mcurran: ahh because of deps, obviously. =)
[04:24] <mcurran> oh yeah, duh
[04:24] <greezmunkey> heh I scrolled to htop in htop and killed htop.
[04:24] <rashed2020> nic1: config?
[04:25] <muri_one> judaman: I like to leave top on all the time. if I notice a process acting up I can just kill it. some times programs crush the system so badly spawning a terminal, running ps, and then kill is just tediously long
[04:25] <mezquitale> !ot | mcurran
[04:25] <mcurran> So will this tor be turned on all the time and slow down my connections, or do you use it on a per basis somehow?
[04:25] <mcurran> Oh sorry
[04:25] <mcurran> nevermind
[04:25] <judaman> muri_one, you bigger problem if you frequently have random processes "crushing" your system.
[04:26] <judaman> you do know that, thats not normal right? =)
[04:26] <muri_one> judaman: 90% of the time it's firefox
[04:26] <muri_one> the other 10% it's some bad code I wrote
[04:26] <losha> mcurran: if you do it right, you get a button on the bottom of your browser to turn tor on & off...
[04:26] <judaman> lol
[04:26] <nic1> rashed2020: ya config of window manager i use, so that when i login that time itself my mplayer will start
[04:26] <rashed2020> nic1: What wm do you use?
[04:27] <mcurran> is there a way to do a ls command for apt-get, in order to list by name to search for packages in terminal (for instance:  something like sudo apt-get list package*
[04:27] <randomusr> hello
[04:28] <rashed2020> mcurran: apt-cache search PACKAGE
[04:28] <mcurran> rashed thanks, I didn't see that in the man pages or --help
[04:28] <puff> mcurran: Or sudo aptitude search package
[04:28] <puff> mcurran:  MAke sure you sudo aptitude update, first.
[04:29] <KindOne> I have a Nvidia GeForce 4 440MX SE 64MB and this installed "nvidia-glx-96"  "nvidia settings"  "xserver-xorg-video-nv" and i can only get a resolution of 640x480 ... is there a way to fix this?
[04:29] <puff> mcurran: Also, to see if a package is currently installed, "sudo dpkg -l | fgrep name"
[04:29] <losha> judaman: mcurran: re: why use a repo, I don't think it for dependencies, those are in the .deb file, I think it's so you can provide updates via update manager...
[04:29] <mcurran> thanks puff, but I want to do it from terminal
[04:29] <puff> mcurran: Aptitude is a shell program.
[04:30] <losha> mcurran: see also apt-file ....
[04:30] <nic1> rashed2020: i use i3 window manager
[04:30] <puff> mcurran: aptitude basically replaces apt-get/apt-cache with a more coherent, unified shell tool.
[04:30] <puff> mcurran: However, for some purposes, the original dpkg shell tool is still useful.
[04:30] <benay1> hello folks, I have windows vista as guest OS on Ubuntu 9.10 using VMware player, but NAT is not working
[04:30] <mcurran> cool, yeah i got confused and was thinking synaptic
[04:30] <zilla1> where does grub install by default?
[04:31] <judaman> losha, if you install a .dep it wont retrieve a dep that you dont have on the system
[04:31] <puff> zilla1: /usr/lib/grub and usr/sbin/grub*
[04:31] <puff> zilla1, mcurran:  Another useful use for dpkg:  "dpkg -L packagename" lists all of the files that the package installs.
[04:31] <flanders> Is it possible to automatically split audio tracks in K3B by certain intervals (every X seconds) or into a specific number of parts? I know it can be done in Brasero (for GNOME), but I can only find an option to split tracks manually with K3B, not automatically?
[04:32] <benay1> Could not connect Ethernet0 to virtual network "/dev/vmnet8". More information can be found in the vmware.log file.  Failed to connect virtual device Ethernet0.  How can I fix NAT?
[04:32] <losha> judaman: it will if you use gdebi. The dependency info is in the deb file. But it's true, all that gets done for you if you use a repo....
[04:32] <puff> So, frozen mouse pointer, anybody?
[04:32] <rashed2020> nic1: Sorry :( Never used it.
[04:33] <bastid_raZor> benay1: #vmware is possible place to ask.
[04:33] <benay1> k thanks
[04:33] <cdi> I know this is a lame question but is there any way to edit the message that appears with the pidgin psychic mode plugin?
[04:33] <greezmunkey> Kindone, here is my xorg.conf, see if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/323010/
[04:33] <root> how can I upgrade only a single package via commandline?
[04:34] <tenna_smle> vmware seems to play better with 9.10 over 8.04
[04:34] <KindOne> root" "sudo apt-get install packagehere"
[04:34] <puff> Guest70303: Yes, as long as the package has no dependencies.
[04:34] <greezmunkey> tenna_smle,go for the throat!
[04:34] <mcurran> KindOne:  Yes, there is a way, but it's wicked complicated, you'll need to basically find someone's xorg.conf and copy their device section for the nvidia driver online somewhere, but there are two options like "addargbvisuals" "true" and another one...
[04:34] <tenna_smle> greenzmunkey appreciate all the cheerleading comments =)
[04:35] <Guest70303> puff: I asked how... apt-get upgrade packname doesn't work....
[04:35] <losha> flanders: I'm curious. Why would you want to split at fixed intervals. They're unlikely to coincide with breaks in the audio?
[04:35] <puff> Guest70303: What KindOne said;  re-isusing the apt-get install command will install the latest version, if oyu're behind.
[04:35] <Guest70303> ah, thanks
[04:35] <puff> Guest70303: Or will tell you that you're already on the latest version.,
[04:35] <Guest70303> k
[04:35] <puff> Guest70303:  However, if the new version has dependcies on other dammit.
[04:35] <puff> Oh well.
[04:35] <plytheman> evening guys, anyone have suggestions on a distro to put on a thumb drive to fix a friends intel powered macbook?
[04:35] <flanders> losha, it's for my car's audio player. The seek function is horrible (VERY slow.)
[04:35] <puff> Guess he'll learn that part the hard way.
[04:35] <KindOne> mcurran: i don't care how complicated... send me a PM if you find a link
[04:35] <greezmunkey> KindOne, I posted mine, but I got your nick wrong see above
[04:36] <puff> plytheman: UBuntu works pretty well on a thumb drive.
[04:36] <plytheman> does buntu have a mac version?  I don't even know =S
[04:36] <benay1> :( 294 people in #vwmare but the channel seems dead, no one is talking
[04:36] <losha> flanders: um, try wavbreaker (disclaimer: I've never used this myself)
[04:36] <flanders> losha, so what I do is split automatically at every 60 seconds. If I want to continue where I left off (podcast episode, for example), I can just quickly skip to the track # I left off on.
[04:36] <mezquitale> plytheman, im pretty sure there's a lot of people with macs that have ubuntu installed on your machines
[04:36] <benay1> no one is giving me a clue there :(
[04:36] <flanders> losha, is it a plugin for k3b or another application entirely?
[04:36] <^c|0ud^> Can anyone tell me how to get the icons back from the weather applet, they are missing? Please and Thank You! :)
[04:36] <judaman> So im on ubuntu 9.10 and vpnc just doesn't work, I start it and all my connections to outside world drop, worked fine on 9.04, dammiitt! i hate debugging
[04:36] <KindOne> greezmunkey: just PM me a link
[04:37] <plytheman> mezquitale, sweet deal, hopefully he does have intel and not ppc, should make things a bit easier
[04:37] <greezmunkey> KindOne, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/323010/
[04:37] <slide> I have a VGA 8" touchscreen LCD monitor connected as a secondary monitor, the native resolution is 1600x1200 but under Display Preferences that is not an option, is there anyway to add it or manually set it res to that?
[04:37] <losha> flanders: sorry, it's a separate app. You did ask for a k3b feature....
[04:37] <benay1> has anyone here has experience with vmware player 3, ubuntu 9.10 as host, and vista as guest to have NAT works?
[04:37] <mcurran> KindOne:  I used to do it by running displayconfig-gtk, setting the display the way you want it with the vesa driver, restarting, and then replacing the vesa driver with nvidia in xorg.conf, the only problem, displayconfig-gtk is now obsolete, so you'll need to add some old repos in order to get it, or download it and all it's dependencies.
[04:37] <greezmunkey> KindOne, I don't PM
[04:38] <flanders> losha, I can use mp3splt-gtk to split the mp3 podcasts, but I was hoping K3B had a similar feature that Brasero has: auto-split tracks.
[04:38] <KindOne> greezmunkey: okay
[04:38] <^c|0ud^> Can anyone tell me how to get the icons back from the weather applet, they are missing? Please and Thank You! :)
[04:38] <flanders> losha, Brasero is acting really goofy for me. It doesn't seem to unmount discs when erasing them or when burning, and this has ruined some of my CDs.
[04:38] <rweait> warnings every few seconds from Karmic.  No problem on previous 8.04 installation.  Where to look?  unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[04:38] <losha> flanders: brasero is incredibly buggy. Not sure why....
[04:39] <lovre> what is that program for ubuntu that creates thumbnails?
[04:39] <flanders> losha, also, Brasero puts the FIRST 60 seconds as the LAST track, but the rest are in proper order. This seems like a bug that was overlooked.
[04:39] <rage> Can you have multiple drives mounting a single point in fstab? e.g UUID=x       /mnt/usb_backup ext3    user,noauto     0       0\n UUID=y       /mnt/usb_backup ext3    user,noauto     0       0,
[04:39] <rage> Obviously there would be a conflict if both are plugged in at once, but I am not fussed
[04:39] <flanders> rage, that sounds impossible.
[04:39] <losha> flanders: well, I don't see any google hits for k3b and autosplit....
[04:39] <KindOne> mcurran: if you find any more information about my driver issue, you can PM me.
[04:39] <flanders> rage, what about looking into LVM then?
[04:40] <flanders> losha, no problem, thanks for trying though.
[04:41] <losha> flanders: actually, this site says it can split files, so poke around: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-extra-gear&m=111866789022998&w=2
[04:41] <Tartaros> the gFTP application tells me "The protocol 'FTP' is currently not supported." how wrong is that?!
[04:41] <mcurran> I don't know what that means.  Try seeing if you have anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf now, and if not, run the program for display settings and add a monitor, vesa driver, and resolution, restart, replace "vesa" with "nvidia" and the resolutions should stay.
[04:41] <Tartaros> what other protocol should it support than the one in it's name...
[04:41] <lstarnes> Tartaros: what about ftp in lowercase?
[04:42] <flanders> losha, I know it can split manually, but that's tedious.
[04:42] <mcurran> KindOne:  I would just give you my old xorg, but I don't have that machine anymore.  If you have an email, I can email it to you in a day or so...
[04:42] <iconmefisto> trying to mount nfs, I get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting
[04:42] <KindOne> mcurran: PM = private message
[04:42] <losha> flanders: oh, right. Back to square one, then...
[04:43] <Tartaros> lstarnes: heh, looks like that was it. still, it's uppercase in the name too :)
[04:43] <greezmunkey> KindOne, are you not able to use the xorg file I posted for you?
[04:43] <iconmefisto> also, I can't ping from the remote machine to this one
[04:43] <greezmunkey> KindOne, I have the same basic card...
[04:43] <flanders> losha, if only GNOME programs weren't so buggy.
[04:44] <KindOne> greezmunkey: i am about to try that, i just like having multiple backup plans...
[04:44] <flanders> losha, ironically, even though I use the GNOME desktop, I find myself preferring KDE applications.
[04:44] <greezmunkey> KindOne, k
[04:44] <losha> flanders: the solution to *that* is to learn to use the cli versions....
[04:44] <Hb_Kai> hey, i'm trying to burn a disc on ubuntu but it's not working. i was wondering if it has anything to do with the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system on the disc, does ubuntu have support for this?
[04:45] <flanders> Hb_Kai, what error is it giving you?
[04:45] <iconmefisto> Hb_Kai: pretty sure it does
[04:45] <nic1> rashed2020: did you use exec for mplayer,in any other window manager config? if so can you please tell me
[04:46] <rashed2020> nic1: metacity
[04:46] <mcurran> Anyone else have an ES1968 sound card, or no sound on karmic?
[04:46] <iconmefisto> mcurran: I have no sound on karmic
[04:46] <greezmunkey> KinfOne, check this if you didn't already know how...: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196661
[04:47] <mcurran> icommefisto:  Yeah, I have only some sounds, like system sounds, but not music played from any apps.
[04:47] <greezmunkey> s/KinfOne/KindOne
[04:47] <KindOne> greezmunkey, alright
[04:48] <alabd> Good day everyone , Libtool is installed but there is not such  /usr/bin/libtool folder ?
[04:48] <mcurran> I also have an ancient GPU (ATI 3D RAGE LT PRO) and I can't get any streaming videos online, or wmv or anything, I don't know if it's the driver, old card, or something fixable
[04:49] <iconmefisto> mcurran: is this a new karmic install? or upgrade from jaunty?
[04:49] <mcurran> I'm actually compiling the kernel now, hoping I'll get better 3D acceleration afterwards, but I don't really see why I would since I didn't add any specific instructions towards drm or anything.
[04:50] <losha> alabd: /usr/bin/libtool should be an executable file...
[04:50] <mcurran> new karmic, actually right now I'm running Linux Mint 8 RC1, basically karmic, and I'm compiling the new kernel 2.6.31-15-generic
[04:50] <alabd> losha: but locate libtool just show 2 address
[04:51] <alabd> /usr/share/gtksourceview-2.0/language-specs/libtool.lang
[04:51] <alabd> /var/cache/apt/archives/libiptcdata0_1.0.2+libtool01-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:51] <alabd> so where is libtool ?
[04:51] <iconmefisto> trying to mount nfs, I get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting
[04:51] <lstarnes> alabd: did you install it?
[04:51] <alabd> lstarnes: yes it is installed!
[04:52] <lstarnes> alabd: try using which libtool
[04:52] <mcurran> icommefisto, I had the sound problem on my karmic rc1 install also and its here to
[04:52] <losha> alabd: your locate info may be out of date. What does ls -l  /usr/bin/libtool say?
[04:52] <lstarnes> alabd: or dpkg -L libtool
[04:52] <alabd> losha: how to up2date it ?
[04:52] <alabd> lstarnes: /usr/bin/libtool
[04:52] <lstarnes> alabd: then it is installed
[04:53] <mcurran> icommefisto did you download the necessary packages for nfs support?
[04:53] <losha> alabd: sudo updatedb (and then wait...)
[04:53] <lstarnes> alabd: /usr/bin/libtool is a file, not a directory
[04:53] <iconmefisto> mcurran: I had a similar problem to yours, but also some video wouldn't show when playing. but system notification sounds worked. that was a jaunty->karmic upgrade though
[04:53] <alabd> lstarnes:  yes
[04:54] <losha> mcurran: strictly speaking, we don't even talk to mint users...
[04:54] <Timmymayes> which package would have gl.h for compiling things
[04:54] <Timmymayes> for opengl
[04:54] <mcurran> iconmefisto:  So you never fixed it?
[04:54] <greezmunkey> mint who
[04:55] <mcurran> oh yeah losha, why not - Actually I was running the karmic rc release just before and honestly this ancient computer (compaq presario 5660) is running at least 4 times faster with mint's rc release now.
[04:55] <lstarnes> Timmymayes: try using apt-file search gl.h
[04:55] <Hb_Kai> flanders: hey, sorry i had a phone call. it shows me a log and asks me to save it, view it or close. shall i upload that to pastebin?
[04:56] <iconmefisto> mcurran: yes I did, after a few days googling. it was because some codec packages I had installed had changed names in karmic, so I had to track down which ones, and make sure the right ones were in place. from memory, it was mostly ffmpeg-related packages
[04:56] <ubuntu> Hello, I'm just checking...
[04:57] <losha> mcurran: mainly 'cos mint has it's own channel I thought...
[04:57] <Hilikus> is there some way i can make the FS enforce the owner and group of the content files in a directory? i'm writing a script to do maintenance in my music collection and i can do everything withou root access except guarantee that the owner:group are correct
[04:57] <mcurran> losha:  I'm actually running xchat, firefox, and serveral other apps, while also compiling a kernel - in karmic I tried compiling and the machine would immediately crash...
[04:57] <bobofosho13> can someone here help a noob uninstall ubuntu on a windows xp-ubuntu dual-boot?
[04:57] <Hilikus> if i do this just using chown i would need to run the script as root
[04:57] <Arsin> How do I search for a file ?
[04:57] <lstarnes> Arsin: locate filename
[04:57] <mcurran> Yeah, I'm banned remember - That's why I was asking about ip address masking
[04:57] <Hilikus> Arsin: locate
[04:58] <lstarnes> mcurran: getting a cloak to get around a ban isn't allowed on this network
[04:58]  * bobofosho13 would appreciate some help
[04:58] <losha> mcurran: well, no surprise to me. karmic was release because of the date, not because it was _ready_ or anything dumb like that...
[04:58] <mcurran> I'm not talking about this network
[04:58] <lstarnes> bobofosho13: ask in ##windows
[04:58] <bobofosho13> ok
[04:58] <bobofosho13> thnx
[04:59] <jrtroberts> well if you isp gives you a dynamic address just change the address
[05:00] <Timmymayes> lstarnes, thanks
[05:00] <EntityReborn> k
[05:00] <EntityReborn> I haz a question.
[05:00] <greezmunkey> bobofosho13, go to Ubuntu's download site, follow the steps carefully, and it will install for you automatically.
[05:00] <jrtroberts> or stop doing whatever got you banned
[05:00] <lstarnes> Timmymayes: it might be glut.h, but I might be wrong
[05:00] <EntityReborn> when running Zelda:A link into the past, my audio is stuttery as hell
[05:00] <EntityReborn> any way to fix this?>
[05:00] <losha> mcurran: so why *were* you banned?
[05:01] <EntityReborn> I've tried increasing the priority
[05:01] <losha> Timmymayes: I don't see gl.h in an opengl package in karmic, offhand...
[05:01] <Timmymayes> losha, i grabbed a few files and fixed my issue
[05:02] <Timmymayes> Now I just need to figure out where to get the vorbis dev lib
[05:02] <lstarnes> Timmymayes: libvorbis-dev?
[05:02] <greezmunkey> so *that's* how you do that...
[05:02] <Timmymayes> lstarnes, trying that now
[05:03] <EntityReborn> anyone?
[05:03] <ubuntu> IYa
[05:03] <losha> Timmymayes: for future reference:  apt-cache search vorbis | egrep dev
[05:04] <mcurran> so should i use vidalia with tor
[05:05] <mcurran> losha:  One of the admins or whatever kept getting on my a## about channel regulations or whatever so I told him to go f himself
[05:05] <losha> mcurran: yeah, that'll do it...
[05:05] <bazhang> !ot | mcurran
[05:05] <jrtroberts> EntityReborn:  You need to remember that with emulators, the audio drivers are all open source too. they are buggy and don't work with all hardware.
[05:06] <jrtroberts> sometimes you need to either find another rom or try another emulator
[05:06] <mcurran> Yeah, but I usually help a lot of noobs over there, so it's more of a loss for them.
[05:06] <ubuntu> I need to install a Microphone Driver for my PC.
[05:06] <bazhang> mcurran, stay on topic and watch the language please
[05:06] <Timmymayes> losha, thanks
[05:06] <ubuntu> Any one?
[05:07] <jonz> hello, I'm seeing "italc client daemon" in my startup apps. I'm trying to see why my install has slowed down after an upgrade. I've read that italc is an educational tool. is it something that's been integraded w/Ubuntu to help the user use the system a bit better? or is it purely something that probably came w/my Educational apps I installed via Synaptic??
[05:07] <mcurran> bazhang:  will do, I'm just answering questions relayed to me also.
[05:07] <greezmunkey> bazhang, wazzup!
[05:07] <mcurran> ubuntu:  So assuming your mic is not supported now?
[05:07] <stephen_> could someone tell me how to open my favorite channels for irc
[05:07] <losha> mcurran: I had success following this: http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[05:08] <SpaceRat> Hello
[05:08] <stephen_> could someone tell me how to open my favorite channels for irc?
[05:08] <bazhang> stephen_, /join #channel or set to autojoin when you start your irc client
[05:08] <EntityReborn> jrtroberts, correct, just wondering if any known helps were known
[05:08] <stephen_> thanks
[05:08] <lstarnes> stephen_: in which client?
[05:08] <bazhang> stephen_, which client
[05:09] <stephen_> xchat
[05:09] <losha> jonz: it came with your educational apps....
[05:09] <SpaceRat> My question: Is Ubuntu 9.10 supposed to support RAID5 on Intel ICH10R (dmraid)? I tried to google that information, but dmraid is painfully documented.
[05:09] <bazhang> stephen_, go to xchat, network list edit ubuntu server and add the channels there
[05:09] <jonz> losha, thanks :)
[05:10] <jrtroberts> EntityReborn usually it is good to search the forums related to the emulator package you are using.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> SpaceRat: All I know is that grub2 doesn't support /boot on dmraid yet
[05:11] <nic1> rashed2020: what exec command do you give for mplayer in metacity?
[05:11] <EntityReborn> k
[05:11] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: hm, well, that wouldn't be the biggest problem, as I have one non-RAID HDD left ...
[05:11] <EntityReborn> jrtroberts, thanks
[05:12] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: but Ubuntu setup freezes at 47% of the pre-partitioning check-up
[05:12] <zilla1> where would i find the grub menu.lst file?
[05:12] <Jordan_U> SpaceRat: Live CD or alternate?
[05:12] <rashed2020> nic1: Go to /home/username/.autostart
[05:12] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | zilla1
[05:12] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: uhm, DVD
[05:12] <alabd> stephen_: /j #channel
[05:13] <Jordan_U> SpaceRat: Graphical installer or "text based" installer?
[05:13] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: i tried both
[05:13] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: i did three attempts, 1st graphical no changes
[05:13] <apple> testing my IRC client,  does it work?  yes??!
[05:13] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: 2nd text mode no changes
[05:13] <Jordan_U> apple: No
[05:14] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: 3rd graphical with all debugging switches (noapic, noacpi,...) except nodmraid set
[05:14] <SpaceRat> Jordan_U: all froze at the same point, recognizing my harddisks for partitioning
[05:14] <apple> well at least the telepathic output is working
[05:15] <zilla1> Jordan_U, i upgraded from 9.04, and haven't installed grub2
[05:15] <Jordan_U> zilla1: Then /boot/grub
[05:16] <Timmymayes> anyone here experienced with dual monitors?
[05:16] <banisterfiend> hey guys
[05:16] <banisterfiend> i have a .7z archive but i cant seem to open it in ubuntu, how do i do it?
[05:16] <SpaceRat> www.7-zip.org
[05:17] <chu_> Hey I'm looking to buy a desktop system primarily for Ubuntu, anyone wanna throw somee names at me? Hah
[05:17] <IdleOne> !7zip
[05:17] <Jordan_U> banisterfiend: Install 7zip with synaptic / apt
[05:17] <mcurran> Timmymayes:  I think dual monitors depends on the Xinerama option in xorg.
[05:17] <banisterfiend> Jordan_U: ok thanks...just apt-get install 7zip ?
[05:17] <mcurran> Timmymayes:  or use nvidia-settings to configure a second monitor with nvidia card
[05:17] <khensthoth> banisterfiend: You need to install an additional package called p7zip
[05:17] <SpaceRat> chu_: huh?
[05:18] <Timmymayes> mcurran, my  question is more about controlling windows with dual monitros
[05:18] <Timmymayes> i want a hotkey to jump a window from screen to screen
[05:18] <chu_> Well, I want hardware which specifically works with ubuntu
[05:18] <SpaceRat> chu_: like "give me animalic names..." "pig"
[05:18] <mcurran> Maybe there's a plugin for compiz for that?
[05:18] <banisterfiend> khensthoth: will that make it so i can use .7z files with my normal archive manager? or ill have to use a special 7zip program to open .7z archives?
[05:18] <bastid_raZor> !hardware > chu_
[05:19] <SpaceRat> chu_: i'm not much into Linux, as it doesn't even install :)
[05:19] <Timmymayes> compis?
[05:19] <mcurran> SpaceRat:  You mean you can't handle an install
[05:19] <SpaceRat> chu_: but if i would want a system that runs for sure, i would get the system made from components at a pc store
[05:19] <SpaceRat> chu_: rather than getting a complete system :)
[05:19] <khensthoth> banisterfiend: If you install p7zip (or p7zip-full) you will be able to use it with the normal archive manager.
[05:19] <BableOn> hey folks, I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and all went well except my lilo.conf was wipped clean so lilo would not install
[05:19] <mcurran> TimmyMayes:  compiz-fusion
[05:19] <banisterfiend> khensthoth: thanks.
[05:20] <Jordan_U> chu_: Dell and system76 sell Ubuntu laptops and desktops
[05:20] <SpaceRat> mcurran: Linux can't handle my RAID, it seems.
[05:20] <khensthoth> banisterfiend: Just note that I have experienced problems with password protected 7zip files in Ubuntu 9.10 with p7zip, but installing p7zip-full solves it.
[05:20] <SpaceRat> at least the German Dell Linux systems are far from being optimized for Linux :)
[05:20] <Jordan_U> chu_: http://dell.com/ubuntu http://www.system76.com/
[05:20] <mcurran> SpaceRat:  Yeah, I've never tried RAID configs on linux
[05:21] <SpaceRat> mcurran: seems neither did the developers :)
[05:21] <Timmymayes> mcurran, there are tons of hotkey options under the default "keyboard shortcuts" option in ubuntu and it has an "add command" feature but i cannot think of nor google a way to do what i want it to
[05:22] <DanaG> E: module-bluetooth-device.c: Assertion '(size_t) decoded == a2dp->frame_length' failed at modules/bluetooth/module-bluetooth-device.c:1367, function a2dp_process_push(). Aborting.
[05:22] <DanaG> GRRRR
[05:24] <BableOn> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 from the upgrade manager.. it's cleaned out my lilo.conf file.. any way to retrieve the previous one.. i cant see if it made a backup or not
[05:24] <DanaG> http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/636
[05:24] <DanaG> GRRRRR
[05:25] <noir> Hey guys. I've got a question about Brasero. Anyone know what kind of image files it produces with the "CD copy" option? It makes 2 files: a small .toc file and a large image file with no extension. Mounting it (at least as ISO9660) doesn't seem to work...
[05:25] <Jordan_U> BableOn: Why are you using lilo?
[05:26] <noir> BableOn: maybe check to see if there's a file called "lilo.conf~"?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> BableOn: Ubuntu is never supposed to delete configuration files that have been edited by the user, so it should either still be there or you should be able to generate an identical config file by re-installing lilo ( But I'm still curious why you would do such a thing :)
[05:27] <leaf-sheep> What is ^a-@? I'm trying to access a menu using the said command.
[05:28] <lstarnes> leaf-sheep: maybe ctrl+A followed by @
[05:28] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/pulse-bt-crash.log
[05:28] <DanaG> Grrrrrrrr.
[05:29] <leaf-sheep> lstarnes: Thanks! That did the trick!
[05:29] <BableOn> been a while.. I might have selected lilo when I installed this ages back because I'mm more familiar with it.. maybe it has both boot loaders installed and i have nothing to worry about
[05:29] <tanath> i'm having a weird issue with an SD card. i put files on it, and then when i unmounted it, it complained of errors. i can still see the files in nautilus, but gparted says it's unallocated space..
[05:29] <BableOn> now just trying to work out which one it's using
[05:30] <mcurran> gparted says unallocated or is it black
[05:30] <tanath> that is, my blackberry complained of errors
[05:30] <mcurran> did you try mounting by running nautilus as root
[05:30] <tanath> it now doesn't see anything
[05:30] <Jordan_U> BableOn: apt-cache policy lilo grub grub-pc
[05:30] <noir> tanath: sounds like something happened midway through a file copy. Best thing to do is copy off all your data and reformat the card. Use photorec to recover corrupt data if necessary
[05:31] <tanath> it's grey. gparted says unallocated
[05:31] <mcurran> tanath:  That's definately wierd.
[05:31] <tanath> noir, mm, thought so. thanks
[05:31] <greezmunkey> hmmm, %Whmmm%w
[05:31] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know how to rearrange the favorites launchers in netbook remix 9.10?
[05:31] <tanath> mcurran, yeah, i can still see the files, and play the music..
[05:32] <tanath> mcurran, and i can unmount and do it again
[05:32] <mcurran> tanath:  can you copy them to your hd?
[05:32] <tanath> mcurran, i think so
[05:32] <eigma> I'm on 9.10 trying to disable apache2 from starting at bootup. my command is "sudo update-rc.d apache2 stop 20 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ." and I get the message "System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.". the links to indeed exist, I wish for them to be adjusted so that they are all K20*'s. any ideas?
[05:33] <mcurran> Did you try unmounting from terminal and then remounting the sd, then refreshing gparted, sometimes the automount function in gparted is finicky
[05:33] <tanath> mcurran, yep
[05:34] <tanath> mcurran, i wanna tell gparted to check teh filesystem but it doesn't see one :-/
[05:34] <tanath> mcurran, yet i just copied the files out of it
[05:34] <mcurran> I'd just copy the files out and reformat
[05:34] <lstarnes> eigma: try sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[05:34] <Jordan_U> tanath: Is the correct device selected in the top right corner?
[05:35] <tanath> Jordan_U, yep
[05:35] <SpaceRat> well, as nobody seems to be able to help with dmraid, i will wait for the next release of Ubuntu :)
[05:35] <SpaceRat> cyas
[05:35] <noir> Anyone have any idea about the images Brasero creates? This is weird and annoying
[05:35] <dewmsolo> hello all
[05:35] <mcurran> SpaceRat:  How could it be a RAID if you never installed linux in the first place - what is being stored in raid then?
[05:35] <eigma> lstarnes: worked, thanks!
[05:35] <Billiard> noir: whats anoying?
[05:36] <noir> Billiard: I can't tell what kind of filesystem it used to make the image. It makes a small .toc file and a large disk image with no extension. "file" command just returns "data" on it
[05:36] <noir> Billiard: and Googling around got me nowhere. Tried mounting it as a .bin and an ISO9660
[05:37] <Billiard> noir: its probably just a byte for byte copy of the image, so an iso if the cd was in iso format
[05:37] <dewmsolo> here is a quick one for you guys...i just installed 9.10 for the first time and now i'm looking to install the build-essential package except apt-get doesn't see it...am i forgetting something or was it renamed?
[05:37] <linuxguy2009> noir: check pm
[05:37] <Billiard> noir: you try mounting without specifying the fstype?
[05:37] <lstarnes> dewmsolo: that should work
[05:38] <noir> Billiard: yup, and "auto" mode. Says "you must specify the filesystem type."
[05:38] <dewmsolo> sudo apt-get install build-essential .....it returns Couldn't find package build-essential
[05:38] <Madpilot> ubottu, info build-essential
[05:38] <Madpilot> ubottu, info build-essentials
[05:38] <Madpilot> hmm, bot napping?
[05:38] <Geistanon> dewmsolo, have you updated your apt list?
[05:38] <nomad77> !build-essential
[05:38] <lstarnes> Madpilot: it takes a while to look up
[05:38] <CountDown> Has anyone successfully suspended and resumed Ubuntu 9.10 on an iBook G4?  Suspend works, but resume is busted on mine.
[05:38] <Geistanon> dewmsolo, also, have you added sources
[05:38] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: Ubottu is somewhat narcoleptic
[05:39] <mcurran> dewmsolo:  did you check your sources.list to make sure all the repos are uncommented.
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> noir: copy cd isn't intended to be mounted. if you want to mount it choose the iso option
[05:39] <dewmsolo> doesn't synaptic do that when you run it? cause i went in there after trying in terminal and it wasn't there either
[05:39] <dewmsolo> i just updated the list...i will try again now
[05:39] <Geistanon> not necessarily
[05:39] <noir> bastid_raZor: well it shouldn't matter whether it's intended to be mounted...there's got to be some rhyme and reason to the filesystem the copy uses, no?
[05:40] <mcurran> dewnsolo:  do apt-get update first
[05:40] <linuxguy2009> CountDown: Tried power button to wake up?
[05:40] <alex87> hey guys, how can i merge two text files on the command line? sort of like how git does it?
[05:40] <Geistanon> noir, I came in late, what was your problem?
[05:40] <dewmsolo> yeah that was the problem ....my bad....list wasn't up to date
[05:40] <noir> bastid_raZor: also I no longer have access to the CDs I copied, so I kind of need to work from these images
[05:40] <Geistanon> dewmsolo, /nod
[05:40] <zilla1> cat a b > c
[05:40] <zilla1> right?
[05:40] <Billiard> alex87: cat txt1 txt2 > txtboth
[05:40] <noir> Geistanon: Trying to figure out what filesystem or image type Brasero uses for disk-to-image copies
[05:40] <dewmsolo> thnx all
[05:40] <noir> Geistanon: and whether it's mountable
[05:41] <Geistanon> noir, okay, one moment
[05:41] <alex87> Billiard: thanks, is there a way to do a diff merge?
[05:41] <Ender2070> I updated my ubuntu server from 9.04 to 9.10 but its still using kernel 2.6.28
[05:41] <CountDown> linuxguy2009: It's not that the system doesn't know when to resume, it's that the system can't fully resume -- I get only a black screen with a frozen mouse pointer.
[05:41] <Jordan_U> alex87: Try the "merge" command
[05:41] <firefly2442> How do I set my default sound playback in Ubuntu?  I have two audio cards (built-in and PCI), the PCI I installed after installing Ubuntu, and now it's messed up
[05:41] <mcurran> Ender2070 you'll need to do sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[05:42] <Geistanon> firefly2442, in the command line type alsamixer
[05:42] <Jordan_U> firefly2442: System > Preferences > Sound
[05:42] <alex87> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:42] <Jordan_U> alex87: np
[05:42] <linuxguy2009> noir: I personally find brasero and k3b to be lacking in trusting my burns to them for fear of data loss. I bought Nero Linux 4 its great. BTW file roller can open iso files for extraction if thats what you need.
[05:42] <lstarnes> alex87: diff3 should work if you have the original and the two modified versions that need merging
[05:42] <Geistanon> noir, what are the files currently?
[05:42] <firefly2442> ok, what's the difference between the card name versus playback?
[05:42] <khensthoth> firefly2442: Or you could check if your BIOS settings has an option to disable the build-in audio.
[05:43] <Billiard> linuxguy2009: nero linux?, just use dd and cdrecord
[05:43] <noir> linuxguy2009: I know, I hate Brasero, but I had to make some disc images earlier and I had no proper image tools and no Internet connection to get them
[05:43] <Jordan_U> linuxguy2009: Why do you fear data loss? They can bot check the md5sum to confirm that the disk burned properly.
[05:43] <alex87> lstarnes: thanks, i don't have the old file unfortunately
[05:43] <mcurran> Brasero has a lot of bugs, but it's my favorite
[05:43] <Geistanon> noir, ISO? CUE?
[05:43] <noir> Geistanon: I don't know what they are...for each disc copy I have a small .toc file and a large disc image with no extension
[05:44] <linuxguy2009> Billiard: I do LOTs of multisession burns and many of the burn apps that are free simply dont do so well.
[05:44] <datz> Hi, I have just manually added a user through command, but when I try to run a script, there is not adequate permission to write to a file. How can I add this?
[05:44] <Ender2070> mcurran - ty
[05:44] <Billiard> noir: is it maybe a format to be opened by brasero?
[05:44] <firefly2442> so, I can double click on a file and it will play correctly in media player, however I want to play it in mplayer, but there's no sound, I went into preferences and sound but I don't know how to configure the driver (or which one to use for that matter, alsa, oss... etc.)
[05:44] <mcurran> Ender2070:  What's ty?
[05:45] <Ender2070> mcurran - thank you
[05:45] <Billiard> datz: you are trying to write where and with the new user you are trying ?
[05:45] <mcurran> oh, no prob
[05:45] <noir> Billiard: that's what I need to find out. I mean obviously the .toc files are meant to be burned by Brasero, yes. I just want to avoid wasting discs on each one of these images (I have 6 or 7)
[05:45] <Ender2070> :)
[05:45] <Jordan_U> noir: Was it an audio CD?
[05:45] <datz> Billiard: yes with new use, and pid file
[05:45] <datz> user*
[05:46] <Billiard> datz: where is the file
[05:46] <CountDown> How do I debug a resume problem?
[05:46] <noir> Jordan_U: indeed they are
[05:46] <Billiard> noir: audio cds arent mounted
[05:46] <datz> Billiard: the file is in a home dir
[05:46] <Geistanon> noir, the disc image is a .BIN
[05:46] <datz> it is created
[05:46] <Billiard> datz: the new users home dir?
[05:46] <noir> Billiard: alright...but is there any way I can rip the audio data from the images without burning them to physical discs?
[05:47] <datz> Billiard: I didn't create a dir for the new user
[05:47] <mcurran> Is there really much performance gain by running raid configurations anyways?  Comparitively meaning same disks, but two of them instead of one?
[05:47] <Billiard> noir: probably, witch tool do you use? just setup a loop and tell the ripping software that is your cd device
[05:47] <Billiard> datz: so user2 is trying to write to user1's home dir?
[05:48] <OPTIMUS> I guess...
[05:48] <noir> Billiard: That is exactly my plan, but first I need to have the image mounted
[05:48] <datz> Billiard: yes
[05:48] <OPTIMUS> No women
[05:48] <Billiard> noir: no you dont mount it
[05:48] <noir> Billiard: so just point a ripping tool at the file?
[05:48] <Geistanon> noir, http://he.fi/bchunk/
[05:48] <jose__> ayuda por favor
[05:48] <Delvien> Is there anyway to use UNR's window-picker-applet in a non UNR environment?
[05:48] <Billiard> noir: yeah or if the tool doesnt like a file use losetup or w/e its called
[05:48] <OPTIMUS> Can i ask?
[05:48] <jose__> quie habla español
[05:48] <jose__> ?
[05:49] <OPTIMUS> Is there any program for HTML chat?
[05:49] <Flannel> !es | jose__
[05:49] <Billiard> datz: users are normally not given permissions to write to other users home directories
[05:49] <jose__> ya lo andube
[05:49] <mcurran> Billiard, couldn't you just mount the image to a folder and then copy to another destination using cp /.*
[05:49] <jose__> y no encotre
[05:49] <Geistanon> noir, did that page help you?
[05:49] <jose__> talvez usted me pueda ayudar?
[05:49] <Billiard> mcurran: no he is trying to rip an audio cd
[05:49] <OPTIMUS> Hablas jose_
[05:50] <noir> Geistanon: yes I was looking at bchunk earlier, haven't tried it yet though
[05:50] <mcurran> you can't mount audio disk images to folders?
[05:50] <noir> Geistanon: thanks
[05:50] <Geistanon> Billiard, I was under the impression that he had already ripped them
[05:50] <jose__> W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 6E871C4A881574DE
[05:50] <jose__> W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 2ED6BB6042C24D89
[05:50] <jose__> W: Imposible obtener http://ppa.launchpad.net/bisgi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[05:50] <Geistanon> Billiard, and was now trying to get their data
[05:50] <FloodBot1> jose__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:50] <jose__> que hago?
[05:50] <Billiard> Geistanon: its just a byte for byte copy of the cd afaik
[05:50] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Audio CD's don't have a "real" file system
[05:50] <datz> Billiard: easiest thing would be to add home dir for new user?
[05:51] <Geistanon> Billiard, its a .BIN
[05:51] <Billiard> Geistanon: yes
[05:51] <jose__> help
[05:51] <jose__> help
[05:51] <Jordan_U> !es | jose__
[05:51] <OPTIMUS> I have almost no problem with Ubuntu
[05:51] <OPTIMUS> Really
[05:51] <OPTIMUS> I am serious
[05:52] <OPTIMUS> jose_ qual és tu problema?
[05:52] <noir> Geistanon, Billiard: thanks guys, trying bchunk at the moment
[05:53] <Geistanon> noir, bchunk should work for you
[05:53] <dman777> what is a good mp3 stream ripper for linux?
[05:54] <soreau> dman777: mp3 stream ripper?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> dman777: vlc
[05:55] <mcurran> vlc is awesome - I had it running streaming tv and radio on a jailbroken iphone
[05:55] <jonz> anyone know how I can get the "metaballs" screensaver back? I just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04, and that screensaver was the only one I liked
[05:55] <dman777> soreau: ya, i used that one before but it didn't allow me to customize the recording directories. it made to many nested ones. i haven't used it in  awhile though. maybe things have changed
[05:56] <datz> Billiard: I have the same problem when I create a home dir for the new user
[05:56] <datz> Billiard: I think I need to edit the permissions of the user, is there any tutorial for this?
[05:56] <soreau> dman777: If you look who said what, I didn't recommend anything
[05:56] <Jordan_U> jonz: xscreensaver-data-extra
[05:56] <dman777> lol
[05:57] <jonz> Jordan_U: sudo apt-get that?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> jonz: Yes
[05:57] <jonz> Jordan_U: thanks :0
[05:57] <Jordan_U> jonz: np :)
[05:59] <mcurran> anyone have the same problem with firefox saying it's still open after closing and trying to reopen it - I have to do killall firefox and then run it, which works, but it's a pain.
[06:00] <bluntman225> Can anyone help me set up my laptop to output display to a HDTV When I try there is a big black line in the left hand side of both screens
[06:00] <soreau> mcurran: Yea, it sucks. I put a launcher on my panel to kill firefox
[06:00] <Billiard> mcurran: maybe an addon is causing it, dunno
[06:00] <bluntman225> Soreau: Can you pm me the instructions to get that launcher
[06:00] <soreau> heh
[06:01] <Jordan_U> bluntman225: Did you setup the second display with System > Preferences > Display?
[06:01] <mcurran> do you need to be root or can I use the custom launcher from the panel options
[06:01] <noir> Geistanon, Billiard: bchunk isn't working unfortunately; it needs a .bin file and a .cue file. I have .toc files, not .cue files. I tried converting .toc to .cue with cuetools, but it throws an I/O error so the file must have a nonstandard syntax or something. Brasero has really done a number on me here...
[06:01] <losha> mcurran: probably an add-on. I haven't seen that failure mode in firefox in ages. Try #firefox ?
[06:01] <Billiard> noir: what program do you normally use to rip your audio cds?
[06:01] <bluntman225> Jordan_U: I dont have that option. Im not using 9.01 either
[06:02] <Jordan_U> noir: Brasero itself won't even open it?
[06:02] <bluntman225> Im using the version before that
[06:02] <datz> Billiard: any other suggestions?
[06:02] <bluntman225> Its a laptop as well
[06:02] <Jordan_U> bluntman225: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:02] <ardchoille> sounds like he's using Intrepid
[06:02] <bluntman225> Jordan_U:  also my mouse is off. Like the pointer shows up 3 inches to the left of where its actually located
[06:02] <Billiard> datz: you can use sudo to write to any folder, but be careful
[06:02] <noir> Billiard: Rubyripper, now. Used to use sound-juicer and various stuff. But like I said I had none of those options when I made these images.
[06:03] <soreau> bluntman225: It's just like adding any other launcher except the command is 'killall firefox'
[06:03] <noir> Jordan_U: No, Brasero is the _only_ thing that will open it.
[06:03] <bluntman225> how to tell what version im usin
[06:03] <Jordan_U> !version | bluntman225
[06:03] <losha> Every version of brasero I've ever tried to use was either incredibly under-featured, or incredibly buggy....
[06:03] <Geistanon> noir, try bin2iso
[06:03] <Geistanon> noir, apt-get should have it
[06:03] <datz> Billiard: new user not in sudoers file
[06:04] <Geistanon> noir, i lied
[06:04] <Geistanon> noir, one moment
[06:04] <Jordan_U> noir: I have a crazy idea to try if you get really desparate :)
[06:04] <Billiard> datz: do you want him to be?
[06:04] <bluntman225> Jordan_U: 	Ubuntu 8.10
[06:04] <datz> Billiard: well I just want to be able to run this app as another user
[06:04] <Geistanon> noir, http://users.eastlink.ca/~doiron/bin2iso/
[06:04] <noir> Jordan_U: hahaha alright. of course I could just burn the CDs but that'd be a big defeat for me
[06:05] <Billiard> datz: why do you need to access another users home directory to do that?
[06:05] <datz> Billiard: if that's what it takes, then yes
[06:05] <ardchoille> bluntman225: yeah, that's also known as Intrepid Ibex
[06:05] <soreau> Jordan_U: Before posting, grade it on the hax scale in your head ;)
[06:05] <Flannel> datz: You'll want sudo then.  To give sudo permissions to someone, add them to the admin group: sudo adduser uesrname admin
[06:05] <noir> Geistanon: ah thanks for the link, knew it wasn't in the repos
[06:05] <datz> Flannel: so just add them to a group, sounds easy enough, swhat I was thinking acutally
[06:06] <Geistanon> make sure to read the beginning of the page as well noir, as it pertains to your case
[06:06] <Flannel> datz: If they need to run a program as another user, you'll need to give them sudo access in one way or another.  The easiest/simplest way to do that is to add them to the admin group.
[06:06] <Flannel> datz: If you just want them to be able to share files and stuff, yeah, just regular permissions can handle that.
[06:07] <datz> Flannel: thanks
[06:07] <Jordan_U> bluntman225: 8.10 is no longer supported ( and is not recieving any security updates ), you should really upgrade
[06:08] <ardchoille> Jordan_U: you sure about that?
[06:08] <user3> yahoo
[06:08] <zilla1> i *think* i installed 9.04 in some empty space at the end of my drive with windows on it. in the logical part where I installed /boot, there isn't a grub directory. What should I deduce from that?
[06:08] <Jordan_U> bluntman225: ardchoille: Wait, misread on old-releases.ubuntu.com, disreguard that :)
[06:08] <ardchoille> 8.10 should be supported until April of 2011 I think
[06:08] <mcurran> So how many days to you think it's gonna take for this pos to compile the latest kernel?  It's a Pentium II with 256 RAM.
[06:08] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[06:09] <Geistanon> mcurran, you're multitasking with that setup?
[06:09] <Flannel> ardchoille: Correct
[06:09] <ardchoille> erm.. 8.10 should be supported until April of 2010 I think
[06:09] <Flannel> ardchoille: er, sorry.  April 2010
[06:09] <mcurran> Yeah, I can't believe it's actually working...
[06:09] <ardchoille> yeah
[06:10] <Madpilot> mcurran, which museum did you pilfer that out of? :)
[06:10] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Less than a day I would guess, less than an hour if you only include what you need
[06:10] <ardchoille> Madpilot: lol
[06:10] <jennie> I have two HDD, in first one windows xp is installed and it is SATA 80 GB with 2 partitions and there is second HDD 120 gb IDE in which ubuntu is intalled and now i want to reinstall winxp , what to do so that ubuntu can get back ???
[06:10] <infidel2> what does this mean: 'sudo: must be setuid root'?
[06:10] <mcurran> Well I had a 2000 dollar laptop so I gave my decent emachines to my sister, then my laptop got stolen, so now I'm stuck with the ancient desktop
[06:11] <Jordan_U> infidel2: Have you been using chmod recently?
[06:11] <datz> Flannel: all is working, thanks
[06:11] <infidel2> no
[06:11] <zilla1> 0222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222
[06:11] <zilla1> 22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222.
[06:11] <FloodBot1> zilla1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:12] <mcurran> Jordan_U  how would I exclude what I don't need, I'd love to know...
[06:12] <Jordan_U> infidel2: What is the output of "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo" ?
[06:12] <mcurran> is there a command for that
[06:12] <zilla1> oh. shoot. sorry you all, kid got the keyboard
[06:12] <RDove> 2 to you too
[06:12] <RDove> lol
[06:12] <Geistanon> mcurran, compile the kernel yourself
[06:12] <Jordan_U> mcurran: make menuconfig
[06:13] <Geistanon> mcurran, it is a lengthy process
[06:13] <Geistanon> mcurran, as well as being very involved
[06:14] <Jordan_U> mcurran: But if you weren't planning on doing that already you should know that there are pre-built kernels http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[06:14] <khensthoth> jennie: What do you mean by "so that ubuntu can get back"?
[06:14] <mcurran> Well I'm compiling by scractch like "sudo CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=1 AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs"
[06:14] <jennie> Khensthoth after reinstalling the grub will mess up and then i wont get menu
[06:15] <infidel2> Jordan_U -rwsr-xr-x
[06:15] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Why?
[06:15] <mcurran> Doesn't that make it more efficient.
[06:15] <Jordan_U> infidel2: The full line ( the user is important )
[06:15] <infidel2> root root
[06:16] <infidel2> Jordan_U sudo isnt what's telling me this, a program is
[06:16] <Jordan_U> infidel2: What program?
[06:16] <infidel2> strace
[06:16] <Geistanon> mcurran~ having a smaller kernel will take time off of your boot but little else
[06:17] <Jordan_U> infidel2: You need to put strace after sudo ( you can't strace setuid binaries )
[06:17] <infidel2> oh
[06:17] <khensthoth> jennie: If you were to reinstall WinXP in your 80GB SATA, then proceed to reinstall grub, shouldn't grub automatically detect the operating systems you have?
[06:18] <mcurran> Geistanon:  But does compiling this way from the linux-image package optimize the kernel at all, or do you still get all the needles modules and everything else that doesn't pertain to the hardware/configuration
[06:18] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Doesn't optimize it at all
[06:18] <mcurran> Well, there should be a way to trim the kernel somehow...
[06:19] <_carlos> :)
[06:19] <_carlos> hello
[06:20] <mcurran> This is the only way I know how to compile, because I used to do it this way when I had to appy a patch to my old laptop.
[06:20] <Jordan_U> mcurran: Unfortunately there is no way to automatically build a kernel for your specific hardware ( that I know of at least ). You need to figure out exactly what hardware you have and use make menuconfig to manually choose what to include
[06:20] <_carlos> that's right..
[06:20] <_carlos> make menuconfig is your friend
[06:21] <noir> Billiard, Geistanon: Thanks very much for your help! Finally figured it out. Needed to use bin2iso to convert the .toc file to .cue, and then bchunk to convert the .bin and .cue directly to WAVs with the "-w" switch
[06:21] <Jonny_> are there any help channels? New to Ubuntu
[06:21] <Madpilot> Guest12672, this is the main help channel
[06:22] <Guest12672> I'm trying to get my flash player to work, it's specifically youtube that Doesn't work
[06:22] <Geistanon> noir~ glad to have helped
[06:22] <Guest12672> like when i try to click the player in firefox
[06:22] <Guest12672> doesn't respond
[06:22] <mcurran> so what would be a command to begin a compilation with menuconfig?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Guest12672: How did you install flash?
[06:23] <Geistanon> Guest12672, it would be helpful if you would register a name
[06:23] <mcurran> actually nevermind, I'll look into it and read first
[06:23] <pipboy> sorry, i guess my previous name wasnt any good
[06:23] <noir> Geistanon: Hmm...looks like I spoke too soon. The WAV files are corrupt. Dang! I was so close
[06:23] <pipboy> good looking out
[06:23] <Geistanon> pipboy, in firefox go to about:plugins
[06:24] <pipboy> Jordan, i installed it when prompted in firefox, installed the adobe flash version (1st selection) and on another not im using X64
[06:24] <Geistanon> pipboy, What has the mime type "application/x-shockwave-flash"
[06:24] <Geistanon> pipboy~ within the about:plugins page
[06:25] <pipboy> give me a sec
[06:25] <pipboy> geistanon, application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[06:26] <Geistanon> pipboy~ is there only the 1?
[06:26] <sontek> When I ssh into my server it takes a good 2 minutes before it brings up the login prompt
[06:26] <Geistanon> pipboy~ most times that flash fails in ubu it is because of conflicting plugins
[06:26] <sontek> it doesn't take that long when I'm using putty from windows on the same computer
[06:26] <sontek> anything I can check in my ubuntu config?
[06:26] <Jordan_U> sontek: Is your server listening on port 22 and accessable via the internet?
[06:26] <losha> sontek: ssh -v to get some debugging output....
[06:27] <pipboy> Geistanon, i only see that as application /x shockwave-flash
[06:28] <brianherman> anybody here try chrome os?
[06:28] <Geistanon> pipboy~ on http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ , does the flash player check animate?
[06:28] <Hilikus> if i chmod i file, while rsync copy it next time or not?
[06:28] <Geistanon> brianherman~ it is not out yet
[06:28] <brianherman> geistanon: im building it right now http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Geistanon: The source is
[06:28] <pipboy> Geistanon, it offered for me to install missing plugins, but i do see the check animation yes...
[06:29] <Billiard> noir: you could try one of the cd ripping tools you said you have used before using your file as the cd device
[06:29] <brianherman> i wish they had a live cd for chrome os
[06:29] <Jordan_U> noir: Desparate enough to try my crazy idea yet? :)
[06:29] <noir> Billiard: I can try that I suppose...
[06:29] <noir> Jordan_U: I definitely am. Hit me
[06:30] <Geistanon> brianherman, Jordan_U~ well gosh darn that was quick
[06:30] <Geistanon> pipboy~ then flash is actually operable. you said youtube fails?
[06:31] <Jordan_U> noir: sudo losetup -r /dev/loop0 /path/to/file.bin
[06:31] <losha> Hilikus: it depends on the rsync flags you use, and I can't recall if chmod changes the modified time of the file. You can always try rsync with the --dry-run flag to see it *would* do without it actually doing anything...
[06:31] <pipboy> Geistanon, like when i try to click buttons and what not, youtube, stickam, sometimes myspace music player, and sometimes lastfm. (mostly everything flash related methinks)
[06:31] <Jordan_U> noir: Then tell a cd ripping app that your cdrom drive is /dev/loop0
[06:31] <vin-> question
[06:32] <Geistanon> pipboy~ how exactly does it fail?
[06:32] <noir> Jordan_U: oooh I like it
[06:32] <sontek> losha: its hanging at debug1: Unspecified GSS failure.  Minor code may provide more information
[06:32] <Billiard> Jordan_U: thats what i told him to try also, might work
[06:32] <ajay> hi
[06:32] <sontek> losha: once it does: debug1: Next authentication method: publickey its quick.
[06:33] <vin-> i installed ubuntu through wubi dual booting it with vista, i am about to update my vista to win7, since wubi installed linux though vista will updating to win7 harm anything? my dual boot option when i boot mainly?
[06:33] <losha> sontek: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794765
[06:33] <noir> Jordan_U: alright the loop is set up. Rubyrip doesn't let me do anything if I choose /dev/loop0 as the drive. I shall try a different app
[06:34] <vin-> anyone?
[06:34] <pipboy> Geistanon, when i click buttons...it doesnt work?
[06:34] <vin-> i installed ubuntu through wubi dual booting it with vista, i am about to update my vista to win7, since wubi installed linux though vista will updating to win7 harm anything? my dual boot option when i boot mainly?
[06:34] <wolfstar> hola
[06:34] <wolfstar> hi
[06:34] <Geistanon> pipboy~ but the application itself is present?
[06:35] <Geistanon> pipboy~ what happens when you go here http://www.k2xl.com/games/boomshine/
[06:35] <vin-> u guys are no help
[06:35] <vin-> why r u here?
[06:35] <pipboy> Geistanon, yeah like it will display whatever the flash needed to load, but the buttons and i think right clicking doesnt work either
[06:35] <losha> vin-: here, have your money back...
[06:35] <pipboy> Geistanon, it loads, but i when i try to click play it does nothing
[06:36] <vin-> losha
[06:36] <vin-> here
[06:36] <vin-> smd
[06:36] <vin-> ?
[06:36] <FloodBot1> vin-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:36] <Geistanon> pipboy~ Well that's odd indeed.
[06:36] <Geistanon> pipboy~ I actually have no idea how to help you at this point.
[06:37] <pipboy> Geistanon, yeah... its okay, im thinking maybe if i can uninstall the flash plugin i currently have and install the open source ones maybe that would have a different outcome?
[06:37] <Geistanon> pipboy~ I suggest trying alternative flash plugins such as gnash, and make sure to disable ones which you arent testing currently via  tools -> addons -> plugins
[06:37] <noir> Jordan_U: Tried abcde (nice CLI tool). It says "CD could not be read. Perhaps there's no CD in the drive?"
[06:38] <Geistanon> actually pipboy
[06:38] <Geistanon> A simple google search brought up this page ( http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/11/i-cannot-click-on-flash-in-ubuntu.html )
[06:38] <Geistanon> pipboy~ it would appear to be your exact problem
[06:39] <brianherman> pipboy: do u play fallout3
[06:39] <pipboy> brianherman, how'd you know?!
[06:39] <pipboy> :)
[06:39] <brianherman> ur name
[06:39] <brianherman> ever play 1 or 2
[06:39] <brianherman> ?
[06:40] <Geistanon> pipboy~ although you may need to substitute the correct directory as you mentioned you're on x64, although the plugin itself may not be
[06:40] <pipboy> brianherman, yeah, those are the only ones i like, Fallout oblivion with guns edition wasnt any good imo
[06:40] <brianherman> i should get 1 and 2
[06:40] <brianherman> maybe after xmas i get money
[06:40] <pipboy> geistanon, thanks a bunch, what is a good way to go about installing these again?
[06:41] <pipboy> Brianherman, or you could just torrent them? need a link? ill gladly give it to you
[06:41] <Geistanon> pipboy~ given the page's contents i dont think you need to try alternate plugins yet
[06:41] <noir> Jordan_U, Billiard, Geistanon: Thanks for all your help guys, but I think I'll delete these useless images and wait till next week to rip these CDs proper. It's a shame, and I came close with the bin2iso/bchunk wav output combo (you can hear the music faintly under lots of static), so I'd call that a partial victory :) Cheers
[06:41] <pipboy> Geistanon, so what should i do then?
[06:41] <Geistanon> pipboy~ read the page i sent you
[06:42] <Jordan_U> noir: Try audacity as a last ditch effort before you give up
[06:42] <Geistanon> pipboy~ a comment someways down will help
[06:42] <Geistanon> noir~ audacity is quite brutal
[06:42] <losha> noir: cdparanoia has always worked well for me ripping audio cds
[06:42] <noir> Jordan_U: use audacity how?
[06:42] <noir> losha: that's why I use rubyrip. It's a great frontend to cdparanoia
[06:42] <pipboy> Geistanon, substituting the directory? i have no idea how to do that, as i've said i don't comprehend how installing works, i'm unfortunately a windows guy but im trying to learn
[06:43] <jayjay__> pipboy, in terminal "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"->restart ff
[06:43] <Jordan_U> noir: File > Input > audio
[06:43] <JuicyJ> Wat up ppl
[06:43] <noir> Jordan_U: yeah lol but I mean on what file...the WAVs I got?
[06:43] <pipboy> jayjay_, so these are just deb files?
[06:43] <Geistanon> pipboy~ hit alt+f2
[06:43] <jayjay__> yep
[06:43] <Geistanon> pipboy~ paste in   sudo gedit /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer
[06:44] <Geistanon> does it bring up a file?
[06:44] <Jordan_U> noir: On the .bin, it probably won't work, and even then it might be one long audio file but it's worth a try
[06:44] <Geistanon> pipboy~ and hit enter obviously
[06:44] <noir> Jordan_U: ok
[06:44] <pipboy> Geistanon, enter whats that? Just kidding :P
[06:44] <alex87> hey guys, how do i workout who checked out a working copy?
[06:44] <chiques> How can I send a fax from Ubuntu?
[06:44] <pipboy> Geistanon, nothing came up
[06:45] <Geistanon> pipboy~ :P did it give you an empty file error?
[06:45] <pipboy> Geistanon, nothing...
[06:45] <Geistanon> pipboy~ try     sudo gedit /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer     instead
[06:46] <noir> Jordan_U: if I import it using Import > Raw Data and the default options, I get the same result as the WAV files: very loud digital-sounding static with the music faint in the background
[06:46] <noir> Jordan_U: so something along the way here must be close but not quite right
[06:46] <pipboy> Geistanon, nothing
[06:47] <Jordan_U> noir: Did you try importing as audio rather than "raw data"?
[06:47] <noir> Jordan_U: yes, nothing happens if I do that. Says "Audacity did not recognize the type of the file. If it is uncompressed, try importing it using 'Import Raw.'"
[06:48] <jayjay__> pipboy-result?
[06:48] <py1234> Entrez le texte ici...hii there
[06:48] <pipboy> I got nothing
[06:48] <Geistanon> pipboy~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259102
[06:48] <py1234> so what
[06:48] <pipboy> jayjay_ result for the deb files?
[06:48] <Geistanon> pipboy~ that thread is your best bet at this point
[06:49] <pipboy> jayjay_ lemme try those real quick
[06:49] <losha> noir: remind me, how was the original ripped?
[06:49] <pipboy> Geistanon, thanks ill give that a try!
[06:49] <noir> losha: using the "CD copy" option in Brasero. This results in an extensionless image file and a small accompanying .toc file
[06:50] <losha> noir: sigh. Brasero...
[06:50] <Geistanon> noir, losha, it was a bin
[06:51] <noir> losha: I know. If I had had net access at the time I'd have downloaded a real ripping tool, but I didn't. Now I wish I had booted into Windows and ripped them as Windows Media Lossless. At least then I could decompress the songs to WAV and then re-encode them with FLAC easily enough
[06:51] <jesuslololol> How do you bring an ubuntu machine into a windows network?
[06:52] <powertool08> jesuslololol: For filesharing, use samba
[06:52] <jesuslololol> what is that
[06:52] <jasonmchristos> please help how do i get a freenode room list with empathy on karmic?
[06:52] <jesuslololol> its just i need to get all the stuff i dled off this machine onto a windows machien
[06:52] <powertool08> jesuslololol: the program which enables filesharing on a windows friendly protocol...
[06:53] <jesuslololol> where do i get it at
[06:53] <Geistanon> powertool08~ samba is for developers
[06:53] <losha> noir: well it's hard to imagine what brasero did to the file which would result in static + faint music, unless it messed with the gain somehow. I hope it isn't some new kind of copy protection...
[06:53] <jesuslololol> and does it need to be installed on both computers?
[06:53] <powertool08> sudo apt-get install samba
[06:53] <powertool08> jesuslololol: ^
[06:53] <greezmunkey> jesuslololol, or use a jump drive ...
[06:53] <Jordan_U> jasonmchristos: IRC seems to be something that only dedicated IRC clients can get right, you might want to try xchat
[06:53] <noir> losha: I know right? It's weird. I'm apt-get purging brasero rignt now and installing k3b for burning needs.
[06:54] <jesuslololol> the only one i have is my big external drive and idk where the cord is
[06:54] <powertool08> Geistanon: what do you mean? Lots of people use samba.
[06:54] <Myxb> during boot i get "can not read /etc/udev/rules.d/z80_user.rules" (a symlink to an empty /etc/udev/user.rules file). anybody know what it is?
[06:54] <worldhurts> hi
[06:54] <jesuslololol> okay its going
[06:54] <Geistanon> powertool08~ the samba package family yes, but samba itself is far more than what he needs
[06:55] <greezmunkey> jesuslololol, 4gig usb drive = $12.00 :/
[06:55] <Geistanon> powertool08~ simply having smbfs and say pyNeighborhood is sufficient for the end-user
[06:55] <noir> losha: aw crap, I forgot...k3b needs kdelibs to run. Hate to install 303MB of packages for one app <_<
[06:55] <Geistanon> greezmunkey~ lolno
[06:55] <Geistanon> greezmunkey~ try newegg
[06:55] <jesuslololol> eh screw it ill just find the cord
[06:55] <losha> noir: not worth it, just use the cli...
[06:55] <greezmunkey> Geistanon, yeah, I know, but you get my point.
[06:56] <kostkon> noir, try nero, its demo, at least
[06:56] <Geistanon> greezmunkey~ ebay is a good choice as well
[06:56] <jesuslololol> dl is taking too long
[06:57] <noir> kostkon: nero has a linux version?
[06:57] <Concretesledge> Metallica - The Unforgiven
[06:57] <kostkon> noir, yeap, and a very good one
[06:57] <Geistanon> greezmunkey~ newegg has your 4g for 8 dollars, but i imagine you can do better than that even on ebay
[06:57] <noir> kostkon: also I hate demos
[06:57] <kostkon> noir, lol ok then
[06:57] <nvme> anyone know what this error means " Failure trying to run: chroot /home/USERNAME/Documents/chromiumos/chroot mount -t proc proc /proc" ?
[06:57] <noir> kostkon: lol thanks anyway though :D
[06:57] <kostkon> noir, :)
[06:58] <Geistanon> noir~ a majority of the work youre looking at can be done through the CLI, you know this yes?
[06:58] <jasonmchristos> Jordan_U: see pm please
[06:58] <Jordan_U> !pm | jasonmchristos
[06:58] <jasonmchristos> Jordan_U: please see pm its off topic
[06:58] <noir> Geistanon: wait like what work? ripping CDs? Sure. As a rule I've never burned CDs from the command line though.
[06:59] <bandreas01> piye....
[06:59] <oddhyena> hi
[06:59] <losha> noir: nothing to it: cdrecord -v -tao speed=20 dev=/dev/cdrom -eject -pad driveropts=burnfree -audio *.wav
[07:00] <jesuslololol> greezmonkey, its a half hour drive to get that 4gig card
[07:00] <`Immortal`> hi all
[07:00] <Geistanon> noir~ http://sharkysoft.com/tutorials/linuxtips/cdcommands/
[07:00] <jesuslololol> so it makes it about 20$
[07:00] <jesuslololol> :D
[07:00] <`Immortal`> i need help with Upgrading my Dist from 9.04 to 9.10
[07:00] <`Immortal`> from a CD
[07:00] <Sa[i]nT> I am lovin' this upgrade.
[07:00] <oddhyena> does anyone know of any program other than kino that will output video through the raw1394 camcorder?
[07:01] <noir> losha, Geistanon: I probably should. I'm a big believer in the commandline :)
[07:01] <greezmunkey> losha, -tao, is that related to disk at once?
[07:01] <oddhyena> track at once
[07:01] <oxeimon> does anyone here play civilization 4?
[07:01] <oxeimon> or know of a channel for it?
[07:01] <greezmunkey> okay, thanks
[07:01] <`Immortal`> shouldn't Ubuntu prompt me to upgrade when i insert the 9.10 disk?
[07:01] <Geistanon> noir~ it makes life so nice
[07:02] <greezmunkey> jesuslololol, create a shared folder on the winbox, then use your file system tools to attach to it, much easier!
[07:02] <noir> sudo umount /dev/loop0
[07:02] <kostkon> `Immortal`, you can only upgrade using the alternate cd. which one do you have?
[07:02] <`Immortal`> Hmm
[07:02] <`Immortal`> not sure kostkon
[07:02] <kostkon> `Immortal`, the live or the alternate one?
[07:03] <kostkon> `Immortal`, ok
[07:03] <`Immortal`> how would i know the diff. ?
[07:03] <Flannel> `Immortal`: What do you see when you view the disc contents?
[07:03] <kostkon> `Immortal`, eh, check the cd's label
[07:03] <Jordan_U> `Immortal`: You can only upgrade via the dvd or the alternet CD
[07:03] <smok> hello
[07:04] <Flannel> `Immortal`: Do you see wubi.exe on there?
[07:04] <`Immortal`> kostkon:  it says Ubuntu 9.10 i386
[07:04] <`Immortal`> yeah wubi is there...
[07:04] <Flannel> `Immortal`: that's the desktop CD
[07:04] <`Immortal`> ahh
[07:04] <kostkon> `Immortal`, then it seems you have the live cd. you can't upgrade with that
[07:04] <`Immortal`> :/
[07:04] <`Immortal`> bummer
[07:04] <`Immortal`> I'm on a limited b/w plan
[07:04] <jesuslololol> sigh
[07:05] <jesuslololol> i wish programs
[07:05] <`Immortal`> and clean install would be painful
[07:05] <`Immortal`> as i have lot of apps installed
[07:05] <huston> can someone tell me how to go about changing the appearance of the login screen?
[07:05] <Flannel> `Immortal`: ping your LoCo, see if they can get you an alternate CD
[07:05] <jesuslololol> i wish programs would just naturally work for linux :(
[07:06] <Jordan_U> `Immortal`: Many ISP's have their own servers you can download ubuntu from ( and mirror repositories sometimes also ) without it "counting"
[07:06] <greezmunkey> is it possible to run the cd integrity checker on a burned .iso without booting it?
[07:06] <oddhyena> jesuslololol, they do
[07:06] <jesuslololol> none of that wine crap -.-
[07:06] <`Immortal`> any idea how many MB an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 takes?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> !hd5 | greezmunkey
[07:06] <Jordan_U> !md5 | greezmunkey
[07:06] <oddhyena> jesuslololol, oh, windows, sorry
[07:06] <jesuslololol> what?
[07:06] <oddhyena> I thought you meant linux applications
[07:06] <powertool08> lol
[07:06] <jesuslololol> oh no
[07:07] <`Immortal`> If i Upgrade via web well i get an estimate size?
[07:07] <jesuslololol> those work perfectly
[07:07] <`Immortal`> and can i cancel mid-way?
[07:07] <powertool08> Man, I just wish all my favorite linux programs would just work in windows :P
[07:07] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, been all the way down that road last night. I checked the md5sum of a burned cd, consistantly got errors, so I finally decided to boot it. I ran the "checker" and it came back clean???
[07:07] <jesuslololol> i must say though
[07:07] <Flannel> `Immortal`: I haven't done it in a while, but I believe so, yes.
[07:07] <oddhyena> i wonder if it would be a legal issue to implement directX into linux rather than converting it to opengl
[07:07] <kostkon> `Immortal`, you can a estimated size yes. you can pause the download and continue it some other time.
[07:07] <jesuslololol> it is faster to transfer files
[07:07] <jesuslololol> on windows
[07:08] <kostkon> you can get*
[07:08] <jesuslololol> though
[07:08] <`Immortal`> ok i guess thats my best bet
[07:08] <Flannel> `Immortal`: But /join #ubuntu-in and see if there's someone in your area who might be able to give you an alternate CD
[07:08] <Jordan_U> greezmunkey: Are you sure checked it against the right md5?
[07:08] <`Immortal`> ok , thanks for all the help guys
[07:08] <`Immortal`> Flannel: & kostkon really appreciate it
[07:08] <huston> immortal it doesn't take much. just update from an alternate install cd/dvd
[07:09] <Jordan_U> `Immortal`: DVD if possible since all of the other apps you have installed will need to be upgraded too ( the DVD includes main )
[07:09] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, like I said, I want all the way down that road. I understand how it works, let's say. I think the issue is that dd is a bit finniky when reading the data into md5sum.
[07:10] <smok> this is the end
[07:10] <Jordan_U> greezmunkey: You don't need dd, just run md5sum on the device directly
[07:10] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, I am on a laptop, and was bouncing all over compiz at the time. Direct to md5sum, like md5sum /edv/cdrom, been there...
[07:11] <losha> greezmunkey: I've never found it so. I think you may have hardware issues (flaky reader/disk). On a properly burned disk, I expect to be able to get the correct md5sum no matter how many times I check it..
[07:11] <huston> so any1 know how to change appearance of login screen?
[07:11] <jesuslololol> rawr
[07:11] <Jordan_U> `Immortal`: And you should really check to see if you can get it from your ISP for free ( their biggest cost is often paying other ISPs they route traffic to / from so they really want things to stay within their network )
[07:12] <jesuslololol> huston, system > administration > login window
[07:12] <oddhyena> ummm, there's no appearance options there
[07:12] <`Immortal`> will try that too
[07:12] <`Immortal`> thanks
[07:13] <alabd> good day everyone , how chmod symblinks ?
[07:13] <alabd> sudo chmod 777 /home/alabd/src/pam_keyring-0.0.8/config.guess
[07:13] <alabd> chmod: cannot operate on dangling symlink `/home/alabd/src/pam_keyring-0.0.8/config.guess'
[07:13] <jesuslololol> yeah there is
[07:13] <jesuslololol> in login window
[07:13] <jesuslololol> check yourself
[07:13] <oddhyena> in 9.10?
[07:13] <jesuslololol> oo
[07:13] <Jordan_U> greezmunkey: What is the md5 you get?
[07:13] <jesuslololol> idk what version i am
[07:13] <jesuslololol> i think im still 9.04
[07:14] <huston> it isn't there in 9.10
[07:15] <losha> alabd: that symlink doesn't point anywhere, so there's nothing to chmod...
[07:15] <jayjay__> jesus,for 9.1http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Change_USplash_Boot_Screen, for 9.04 http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-change-appearance-of-login.html
[07:17] <Jordan_U> greezmunkey: Did you see my last question?
[07:18] <infidel2> if i want to install a .tar.gz for a php extension, what directory should it be unpacked to?
[07:18] <happyaron> when I run ssh in a terminal for connecting to sever, the seahorse dialog window doesn't show up, a line asking for password in terminal showed instead. I would like to use seahorse again, how can I achieve this? I am using byobu
[07:18] <oddhyena> how can I get different cursors for my arrow poinget?
[07:19] <agusj> is there anyone use wine for game?
[07:19] <oddhyena> yes
[07:19] <oddhyena> agusj, I do!!!
[07:20] <agusj> I want to play game such as PES2009, can i use wine
[07:20] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, I can't give you that right now, I'm trying out K3B to see if I liek it better than the other three I dl'd last night :)
[07:20] <oddhyena> agusj, you can try and see if it works
[07:20] <oddhyena> i'm installing a game for wine right now actually :P
[07:21] <agusj> is there any custom configuration for graphic card driver
[07:21] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, if you are still here when it's done I'll share it :)
[07:21] <Dallas> Is there a way to see why my synaptic is locked up? I've had the little round waiting cursor for about 5 minutes.
[07:21] <haileywood> exit
[07:21] <zaoul> what can I put in PS1 that will signify I am root su, or root, su - ?
[07:21] <agusj> or can I install directX 9c on wine
[07:21] <zaoul> Dallas: you prob have a dialog window below other windows
[07:22] <Dallas> zaoul: I can't minimize anything or click anything. System must be locked up
[07:23] <Dallas> mouse still moves.
[07:23] <powertool08> Dallas: if the mouse moves its not locked up.
[07:23] <zaoul> can you alt+tab?
[07:23] <greezmunkey> Dallas, lower left, click the desktop icon...
[07:23] <Dallas> nop3
[07:23] <Dallas> nothing.
[07:23] <stevr1it> hello. i need help,  I have installed karmic and if I use the video option normal everythign is ok, but if it slect the option "no effects" i cannot seee the frames of the fiels, and it si impoossible to use properly nautilus.
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Dallas: You can probably use ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal, and if nothing else works use sysrq ( do NOT just pull the plug )
[07:24] <powertool08> Dallas: can you open a terminal vi alt+f2 or through the menus?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | Dallas
[07:25] <Dallas> ctrl+alt+f1 nothing or alt+f2
[07:26] <Dallas> now how the hell do you type that while holding those?
[07:26] <Dallas> lol
[07:26] <powertool08> Dallas: Didn't catch your version and I know its not in newer ones, but try ctrl+alt+bksp to restart X
[07:26] <zamba> i have this very annoying problem with ubuntu karmic, where when i click on a terminal, directly inside it, it's interpreted as a double-click.. so my copy buffer is emptied
[07:27] <Dallas> crtl+alt+backspace nothing. it's 9.04
[07:27] <powertool08> Dallas: Its not so hard, I can do it on my laptop and I have to hold the fn key to get printscreen key to work
[07:27] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, I have to say K3B has a nice interface, I'll see how well it works...
[07:27] <Dallas> down+alt+prnt screen REISUB does nothing
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Dallas: Does your mouse still move?
[07:28] <Dallas> o it did. holding down the function key with all that sure ass hell restarted it
[07:28] <Dallas> but, I don't think it shut down.
[07:29] <Dallas> just bam, it was booting.
[07:29] <greezmunkey> powertool08 has three thumbs and an extra pinkie... :)
[07:29] <owen1> i can't access the options in skype on koala. any clues?
[07:29] <mrec> hi, can someone do me a favour with ubuntu karmic and load the uinput module? with ubuntu 9.04modprobe uinput created /dev/input/uinput but I heard people are complaining about 9.10 that it does not create /dev/input/uinput??
[07:30] <Dallas> lol. I can't believe I did that. Wish I had a picture I'm sure it looked funny with my hand spread all over this netbook
[07:30] <powertool08> greezmunkey: ha! Sure would make things easier, or much much harder.
[07:30] <owen1> anyone got issues with skype v2 for karmic?
[07:30] <Dallas> So, if it did a hard reboot do I need to do a disk check or something?
[07:30] <greezmunkey> powertool08, I was envisioning that after I posted it, I got confused jsut thinking about it.
[07:30] <strongsoul> help | i updated to ubuntu 9.10 recently, and from then on the behaviour of it when i close my laptop screen changed, it disconnects internet and locks the display
[07:30] <strongsoul> how can i avoid this /.
[07:30] <strongsoul> ?
[07:31] <strongsoul> i want it to lock the screen but the programs running behind
[07:31] <strongsoul> so that when the user opens the screen and logs in again the download that he has setup before learving is sitll progressing or complete
[07:31] <alabd> Good day everyone , email is like user@live.com and it is hotmail account how to login with it in ubutnu?
[07:31] <strongsoul> and not stopped because of this behaviour of ubuntu 9.10
[07:31] <strongsoul> help
[07:32] <Jordan_U> strongsoul: System > Preferences > Power Management
[07:32] <DrIshaiMD> im trying out 9.10 for the first time, I loaded the proprietary driver for my broadcom b43 wireless card, however the device doesn't seem to be showing up in my network manager
[07:32] <Dallas> It's locked up like that twice today now. the mouse will still move, but you can't click on anything and nothing seems to be doing anything.
[07:32] <owen1> when i try to open 'options' in skype it stuck to my panel but i can't open it. any ideas?
[07:32] <DrIshaiMD> how do I go about activating my wireless device?
[07:32] <Jordan_U> DrIshaiMD: Try System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[07:32] <greezmunkey> i'm burning an iso with track at once, me thinks I'm gonna have another coaster...
[07:33] <strongsoul> Jordan_U, There is nothing called prefrences in System menu, i forgot to tell am using xubuntu
[07:33] <DrIshaiMD> Jordan_U, I did, according to that, the driver is activated and ready for use
[07:33] <Jordan_U> DrIshaiMD: What driver?
[07:33] <DrIshaiMD> Broadcom B43 wireless driver
[07:34] <DrIshaiMD> never mind I got it
[07:34] <Jordan_U> DrIshaiMD: Is there also another option for the broadcom STA driver? If so try it instead of b43
[07:34] <DrIshaiMD> I had to unload and reload the b43 module
[07:34] <alabd> Good day everyone , email is like user@live.com and it is hotmail account how to login it with pidgin ?
[07:36] <strongsoul> Jordan_U, i changed  the laptop lid closed behaviour to none even then it is locking down
[07:36] <Besogon> Someone tell me what language it is http://grub.enbug.org/OptionsDeGrub?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[07:37] <strongsoul> Jordan_U, its not a normall lockdown, where i press some key and it asks for password and i can enter after that authentication
[07:37] <strongsoul> it sleeps
[07:37] <strongsoul> :(
[07:37] <strongsoul> so i need to press the power button to get that locked login screen
[07:37] <DrIshaiMD> wow, ubuntu 9.10 even enabled glx on my onboard ati x200 and I didnt have to DO anything
[07:37] <SandGorgon> guys.. I'm trying to create a build script for a package - why are man pages separated into directories like man1, man2, man3 ?
[07:37] <DrIshaiMD> thats amusing
[07:39] <Jordan_U> SandGorgon: Different sections, for instance stat is both a binary ( man 1 stat ) and a system call ( man 2 stat )
[07:39] <strongsoul> OMG, this sucks
[07:39] <DrIshaiMD> wow - great friggin job on 9.10. Truly impressive
[07:39] <strongsoul> i changed all options to NONE,
[07:39] <oddhyena> I'm wanting to install windows on my 500gb hard disk but the CD that installs windows only wants to install to the first partition of the hard disk, and I don't want it to, is it possible for me to install windows, copy the windows partition to an external hard disk, and then install ubuntu and put the windows partition back and resize to fit?
[07:39] <strongsoul> and even now when i close the lid of laptop it goes to suspend
[07:40] <strongsoul> is this a bug or what ?
[07:40] <infidel2> what part of ubuntu lets you press winkey+mouse wheel to zoom in on anything in gnome?
[07:40] <Dallas> strongsoul: are there settings for it in your bios?
[07:40] <strongsoul> Dallas, no idea
[07:40] <strongsoul> havent played with it
[07:40] <Jordan_U> oddhyena: ##windows might be a better channel for that question
[07:40] <SandGorgon> oddhyena, which version of win ?
[07:41] <Dallas> Strongsoul: I'd check there
[07:41] <strongsoul> Dallas, before upgrade this is not how it behaved
[07:41] <strongsoul> will upgrade change bios setting also ?
[07:41] <SandGorgon> Jordan_U, I have a source package which has man pages zipped up as something.8.gz - does that mean I have to install it to man8 directory ?
[07:41] <Dallas> strongoul: I don't think so. I've seen stranger things though ; )
[07:42] <strongsoul> Dallas, :(
[07:42] <corey_> where can I download the latest version of Beryl?
[07:42] <strongsoul> its going to sleep mode when i close my laptop lid
[07:42] <strongsoul> grrrrr, making me mad
[07:43] <drink_sti> i know i have amd64 but when i go to install it says i have i686. i tried running in a virtual machine. was that my problem?
[07:43] <Dallas> Is there a chance that I broke something with that hard reboot? is there a way to check?
[07:43] <Jordan_U> SandGorgon: If they are sustem administration commands then yes
[07:43] <DrIshaiMD> strongsoul, I just tried it, my lappy goes to sleep when I close it, but then I couldn't wake it back up
[07:43] <Jordan_U> SandGorgon: man man
[07:43] <Dallas> I think 686 is the 64 bit.
[07:43] <Dallas> amd
[07:43] <infidel2> drink_sti did you turn on your hardware virtualization in the bios
[07:43] <strongsoul> DrIshaiMD, what you couldnt wake it back up ! ?
[07:43] <strongsoul> when i press the power button it wakes up
[07:44] <strongsoul> and gives me that screen locking authentication box
[07:44] <strongsoul> which is all fine
[07:44] <corey_> Whats the current version of beryl? and where can I get it?
[07:44] <strongsoul> but it shouldn cut down internet
[07:44] <strongsoul> which makes me go mad
[07:44] <chiques> how do I find out what id my modem has e.g. ttyxxx?
[07:44] <oddhyena> is it possible to copy a ubuntu partition to a file and then replace it and make it boot?
[07:44] <Dallas> strongsoul: that's odd. this netbook I'm working on doesn't do anything when I close the lid
[07:44] <drink_sti> infidel2: no i didnot.
[07:45] <drink_sti> will try and brb
[07:45] <strongsoul> Dallas, is it something to do with XFCE ?
[07:45] <chelz> anyone know what's up with  http://packages.ubuntu.com ?
[07:45] <alabd> can anyone login with hotmail account now as messenger with pidgin ?
[07:46] <strongsoul> this SUCKSSSSSSS
[07:46] <strongsoul> alabd, nope error
[07:46] <Dallas> strongsoul: I really don't know alot about linux. I just know that some laptops have power saving function menu's in the bios. and if you've already changed the settings in OS that would be the next place I'd check.
[07:46] <Madpilot> strongsoul, have you tried #xubuntu for xfce issues?
[07:46] <corey_> no one knows?
[07:46] <drink_sti> infidel2: it says enable PEA/nx. is that what i want?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> corey_: sup?
[07:47] <Madpilot> corey, isn't beryl now merged back into compiz?
[07:47] <alabd> strongsoul: thanks so you have problem also with pidgin would you tell have you set useranem with @hotmail.com or not ?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Madpilot: it is
[07:48] <corey_> sorry im newish to linux lol, i have no idea.. whats compiz?
[07:48] <oddhyena> deliciously malicious
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> corey_: compiz gives yuo the cube desktop and wobbly windows that everyonegets excited about the first time they see it
[07:48] <corey_> lol
[07:49] <corey_> yeah I just thought it looked cool, id imagine it wouldnt be as cool after the first few times lol
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> alabd: my username for msn in carrier (a fork of pidgin) doesnt have the domain of my email address on (doesn't have @googlemail.com) only my username
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> corey_: some people find functionality, personally I got real sick of it real quick and went back to LXDE
[07:50] <Madpilot> corey_, if you're already running Ubuntu, all the recent releases are using compiz by default, but have the burning windows and other really shiny stuff disabled (thankfully...)
[07:50] <alabd> ActionParsnip: MSN and @googlemail.com
[07:50] <corey_> hmm, so if I just installed ubuntu 9.10 then i already have compiz?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> alabd: yeah, i enabled my account as an msn passport
[07:51] <brianherman> how do i get my window menu back on ubuntu
[07:51] <brianherman> i cant close windows
[07:51] <Madpilot> corey_, you do. Right-click on the desktop, choose "Change Background" then look at the Visual Effects tab
[07:51] <grendal-prime> grrrr this is making me crazy.  I want glest on my dell mini.  The glest-data package is availale but no glest package?
[07:51] <alabd> ActionParsnip:  my humble email is USER@live.com strongsoul
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> alabd: tbh, it takes seconds to try one way, then the other
[07:51] <corey_> okay thanks. i appreacite it
[07:51] <corey_> appreciate*
[07:52] <Madpilot> ubottu, compiz | corey_
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> brianherman: you mean the list of windows running and minimised?
[07:52] <wingzero> hi all
[07:52] <brianherman> ActionParsnip: no the window decorations
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> corey_: you must have 3d accelleration to get it running too
[07:52] <brianherman> actionparsnip: like the close button on every window
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> brianherman: you lost them when you started compiz right
[07:53] <corey_> yeah, it works
[07:53] <DrIshaiMD> ok so if the radeon driver WORKS for my system, will I get better performance if I try out the proprietary ATI driver?
[07:53] <brianherman> ActionParsnip: well i wanted to see what the ubuntu netbook remix xwas like
[07:53] <wingzero> question, i just installed ubuntu on my new computer but i mounted my 2nd hd to a wron location, how do i change the location? i mounted it to /home/video, while it sould have been /home/username/video
[07:53] <brianherman> actionparsnip: and i apt-get the package
[07:53] <DrIshaiMD> does ATI even MAKE a proprietary linux driver anymore?
[07:53] <dayo> how do i lock the account of a user on an nfs server? i'm using openldap to authenticate them.
[07:53] <drink_sti> i cant get ubuntu to run in a vm.
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> brianherman: run ccsm    theres a setting in there for windows decorators, or you can run emerald if you want to gloss them up
[07:53] <alabd> strongsoul: is your email this kind USER@live.com ?
[07:54] <strongsoul> alabd, hotmail.com
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> brianherman: i installed that the other day and emerald was installed (weird), try pressing alt+f2   and running     emerald --replace
[07:54] <drink_sti> it now tells me fatal error no mounted device... what the heck am i doing wrong?
[07:54] <brianherman> actionparsnip: i ddint install emerald
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> brianherman: i believe its part of UNR
[07:55] <brianherman> ohok
[07:55] <wingzero> question, i just installed ubuntu on my new computer but i mounted my 2nd hd to a wron location, how do i change the location? i mounted it to /home/video, while it sould have been /home/username/video
[07:55] <suigeneris> I just realized that videos on facebook don't play to their full length when on ubuntu. anyone can tell me how I can fix that?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> brianherman: you should also check in ccsm as there is a setting there for windows decorators too
[07:55] <Dallas> Is there a way to turn increase volume besides the obvious?
[07:56] <alabd> ActionParsnip: what is your msn server address ?
[07:56] <powertool08> Dallas: What's the obvious? alsamixer?
[07:57] <Dallas> the volume slider
[07:57] <manitu> hi, got a laptop with ubuntu, if i start there is the normal loading screen and then i come to textmode and there is written ata1.00: status: { DRDY } with some other messages of ata1.00 over and over again
[07:57] <Dallas> does alsamixer adjust the system volume?
[07:57] <powertool08> Dallas: try alsamixer in a terminal
[07:57] <manitu> what could it be? read that it can be the harddisk, but how it boots that far then?
[07:57] <Madpilot> Dallas, right-click on the volume applet, choose Sound Prefs, and have a look thru the tabs there
[07:58] <powertool08> Dallas: It adjust lots of aspects, main and pcm are the typical ones, but you can adjust bass/treble, fade/balance
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> alabd: messenger.hotmail.com
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> alabd: sorry, its FULL email address in the username
[07:58] <switchgirl> anyone in Cockermouth, UK?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> switchgirl: Leeds, UK here
[07:59] <drink_sti> can i install this on a virtual machine? or do i just run option 1?
[07:59] <switchgirl> ActionParsnip, you ok? floods are REALLY bad in the lake district
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> switchgirl: yeah its een crazy, but a little offtopic for here
[07:59] <alabd> anyone can login with hotmail/live account as messenger ?
[08:00] <Dallas> k. So it's all the way up in alsamixer
[08:00] <drink_sti> can i install this on a virtual machine? or do i just run option 1?
[08:00] <Dallas> and in prefs it just shows what menus you can enable if you click on the icon
[08:00] <quentusrex> How do I test a cron script?
[08:00] <quentusrex> it doesn't seem to be running
[08:00] <gheddy_zarc> when trying to enable sharing of folders by installing the "sharing" software packages to share I get the error "unable to install due to broken packages" ? using 9.04 any ideas to try ? do I neeed to go 9.10 ?
[08:00] <quentusrex> it script runs as roon just fine, but it doesn't seem to work from cron
[08:01] <brianherman> actionparsnip: that didnt work
[08:01] <brianherman> actionparsnip: ill just use kde
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> brianherman: i'd ask in #compiz if folks are awake, its a compiz problem (no suprises there)
[08:02] <manitu> could someone please help me? my ubuntu laptop does not start, because of  ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
[08:04] <powertool08> manitu: Maybe a fsck would fix it (I don't know for sure)
[08:05] <nikre> i want to reach the X interface of a remote server, when I do startx, I get the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/323115/
[08:05] <nikre> anything I can do_
[08:05] <nikre> ?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> manitu: make sure the HDD connectors are in good and solid, you could boot with some boot options to maybe get around it. I'd download the drive manufacturers tool to test the disk. Did you MD5 test the ISO you burned to make the CD?
[08:07] <powertool08> nikre: Follow the directions you're given. Run ps aux | grep xorg (tells you if X is running) and paste the output.
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> nikre: your system already has an X server running, you will need to make a virtual X server to run off of somehow (ive heard of it done buy i've not done it)
[08:08] <nikre> powertool08 there's nothing returned from ps command
[08:08] <nikre> (only itself)
[08:08] <powertool08> nikre: Also, it might be easier to vnc or something unless you absolutely need the X server to be remote.
[08:08] <gheddy_zarc> anyone know the server for !mint irc ?
[08:08] <manitu> ActionParsnip, ubuntu is installed and boots from the hdd by grub.. and after a time it stopped working and i geht the DRDY ERR and a ata1.00 error: { UNC }
[08:08] <manitu> *get
[08:08] <haddock> Hey, Im wondering is there any package for SLiM (simple login manager) in Ubuntu?
[08:08] <greezmunkey> when I'm running md5sum /dev/cdrom , should I see output as it goes through the disk?
[08:09] <TeamColtra> Okay I have been googling and racking my brain on this all day... It is finally time to ask for assistance. My machine fails to boot (kernal panic) and I am trying to fix it... I have put the alt install disk in to do the fix mode... but once I drop into shell... I am lost at what I should do
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> manitu: i see, try some boot options and definately check the drive. It doesnt sound healthy. Also check the data/power connectors to the drive are in good
[08:09] <TeamColtra> I tried the FSCK but there seems to be no /dev/discs option
[08:09] <greezmunkey> All I get back is: md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: no, it only outputs when done
[08:09] <SzArAk> hi
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: you dont really md5 a cd like that, are you checking a burned ubuntu disk?
[08:09] <powertool08> nikre: check to see if the /tmp/.X0-lock is there, if so, rm /temp/.X0-lock, try again.
[08:10] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, yes, please advise!
[08:10] <manitu> ActionParsnip, problem is, that it is a notebook.. does i need to start from a live cd or what i should do?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: boot to the CD, select language then read the screen, there is an option to verify the CD there
[08:10] <SzArAk> how can i verify the amount of ram on my graphics card? lspci shows 64MB wich seems way to much. i expected to have 2, or 8MB. here is the output of lspci -vv http://wklej.org/id/210748/
[08:10] <poyntz> How do you install "transkode" on Ubuntu Karmic Koala. I'm getting this error when I try to install it from source: "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed"
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> manitu: connectors should be ok then, try bootoptions and manufacturers test
[08:11] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, I gotcha on that...Is there any way to run that w/o booting the CD rom?
[08:11] <drink_sti> i get this "FATAL: no bootable medium found. system halted"  any body have anything on this problem?
[08:11] <poyntz> is there are prefix you could give me that would do the trick? can I disable headers? what should I do?
[08:11] <nikre> powertool08 I get this error when trying to run vnc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/323118/
[08:11] <nikre> any idea?
[08:12] <powertool08> poyntz: You are probably missing a ton of KDE libraries/dependencies since you are running Ubuntu, not Kubuntu.
[08:13] <poyntz> powertool08: I figured that because it's a script for Amarok, which works fine on Ubuntu, that it would work as well :/
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: the bootoptions can e added to grub using the   e  button to edit the entry for this boot only
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: sorry, crossed wires
[08:13] <powertool08> nikre: Did you remove the lock file and successfully start X?
[08:13] <poyntz> powertool08: also, my comp is 4 years old. Not sure if it's tailored to the KDE environment
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: no, you need to boot to the CD to run the tool
[08:13] <DrIshaiMD> where is xorg.conf ?!??!
[08:13] <userfriendly> g'day
[08:13] <DrIshaiMD> or at least it's equivalent in 9.10
[08:13] <powertool08> poyntz: KDE is much older than your computer :)
[08:13] <userfriendly> /etc/X11
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> DrIshaiMD: karmic doesnt have one by default, if you add one it will be used
[08:14] <aperson> DrIshaiMD,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:14] <nikre> powertool08, sudo ls /tmp/*lock > ls: cannot access /tmp/*lock: No such file or directory
[08:14] <poyntz> powertool08: I don't doubt that. but the latest versions would run slow, no?
[08:14] <drink_sti> i get this "FATAL: no bootable medium found. system halted"  any body have anything on this problem?
[08:14] <poyntz> powertool08: or at least, slower than gnome
[08:14] <DrIshaiMD> how does it get its settings by default?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> drink_sti: did you md5 test the image?
[08:14] <userfriendly> speaking of xorg.conf, why does the desktop on my third monitor extend to 1680x1680 when it's supposed to be 1680x1050...?
[08:15] <drink_sti> i got it right from the ubuntu dite
[08:15] <drink_sti> *site
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> DrIshaiMD: it uses HAL and other autodetect things to detect whats going on, if it gets it wrong you will need an xorg.conf file to tell it
[08:15] <timewriter> hi
[08:15] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, that's cool. I spent way too much time on that md5sum stuff last night getting errors, only to boot the CD, which verified fine!
[08:15] <powertool08> poyntz: KDE4, maybe, I thought KDE 3.5 was pretty good and I'm on a single core Athlon XP 2800+. I use XFCE and its good enough.
[08:15] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, I apprieciate you jumping in!
[08:15] <greezmunkey> s/ni/in
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> drink_sti: means nothing, the data can be garbaged in transit from server to your PC, doesnt matter where its from, so long as the MD5 matches
[08:15] <SzArAk> how can i verify the amount of ram on my graphics card? lspci shows 64MB wich seems way to much. i expected to have 2, or 8MB. here is the output of lspci -vv http://wklej.org/id/210748/
[08:15] <DrIshaiMD> how would i go about changing which module to use without an xorg.conf? I want to try out fglrx
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: cool, thats what counts
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> DrIshaiMD: if you install it, it will be used
[08:16] <poyntz> powertool08: I'm dual-booting xfce/gnome. never really had the guts to use kde :P. but the thing is, half these scripts demand it
[08:16] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, exactly...now I have 5 or 6 good install disks too!
[08:16] <powertool08> nikre: try without the *, use the file given in the previous error statement.
[08:16] <drink_sti> actionparsnip: it loaded fine then told me something about my processor not being amd64 then i reload it and it tells me no bootable medium.
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: groovy, sounds like your hardware needs extra kernel options or is failing
[08:17] <aperson> does anyone else experience this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/483456
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> drink_sti: you cant load a 64bit system on a 32bit cpu, if you are using vm ware and your system doesnt have the right functionality, you cannot run 64bit guets
[08:17] <DrIshaiMD> ok, is there a new key combination to kill X11? Ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't seem to work anymore
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> *guests
[08:17] <poyntz> powertool08: my problem is more the fact that I can't transfer flac files to my iPod (through research I've learned that iPod's don't except flac files). If I want to transfer files over, I need some sort of transcoder :/
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> DrIshaiMD: alt + k + printscreen
[08:17] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, could be. This desktop was installed onto a WinXP install, it's a wubi thing.
[08:17] <drink_sti> actionparsnip: it says something about the kernel not being correct. and my system is an amd 64
[08:17] <powertool08> poyntz: I'd look into mencoder
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> drink_sti: sounds like a bad disk to me, did you run the CD verifier?
[08:18] <drink_sti> i am using a virtual disk
[08:18] <TeamColtra> My machine fails to boot (kernal panic) and I am trying to fix it... I have put the alt install disk in to do the fix mode... but once I drop into shell... I am lost at what I should do
[08:18] <TeamColtra> I tried the FSCK but there seems to be no /dev/discs option
[08:18] <timewriter> anyone uses 9.10 ?
[08:19] <poyntz> powertool08: I wouldn't have a clue how to use that (it runs through bash, yeah?). also does it allow me to transcode multiple files at once?
[08:19] <aperson> timewriter, give this is the ubuntu support channel, it's safe to assume ues
[08:19] <DrIshaiMD> hmph im on a laptop, that doesn't appear to work
[08:19] <aperson> yes*
[08:19] <hassanakevazir> poyntz, take a look at rockbox, if your ipod is supported, it can playback anything, IIRC also flac
[08:19] <timewriter> aperson , thanks , should i upgrade from LTS ?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> drink_sti: then I recommend you MD5 test the ISO, seems your CPU doesnt support virtualisation with 64bit guests so you will need to check that (you may have to enable an option in your BIOS) or you will have to run 32bit guests
[08:19] <poyntz> hassanakevazir: its an iPod shuffle, if that means anything
[08:19] <powertool08> poyntz: Yes its command line, but may have a gui frontend available, and I'm sure its not too difficult if you find a good guide with examples on google.
[08:19] <aperson> timewriter, personally, I did a clean install and restored my backups
[08:20] <timewriter> i mean , install the new version
[08:20] <timewriter> clean install ofc
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> drink_sti: not all 64bit CPUs will allow 64bit guest virtualisation
[08:20] <CppIsWeird> i just plugged in an sata card and i dont see the drives connected to it at all, not even in dmesg. how do i see if the card is being picked up?
[08:20] <poyntz> powertool08: just it's going to take me a while to transcode individual files one at a time :P
[08:20] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, I see that you are getting slammed right now, but during the install does it scann hardware, and offer appropriate drivers, settings, etc. OR, should I plan to make menuconfig after I'm done?
[08:20] <drink_sti> i am using sun virtualbox. does that have anything to do with it?
[08:20] <powertool08> poyntz: So start multiple instances?
[08:20] <poyntz> powertool08: especially say if there's about 4 GB of media
[08:20] <greezmunkey> s/scann/scan
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: most is detected for you, you may need extra boot options, or to add modules in the LiveCD to get things rolling
[08:21] <hassanakevazir> poyntz, ah, no then, it won't be able to playback flac
[08:21] <aperson> timewriter, I like 9.10 if that counts for anything
[08:21] <timewriter> thanks
[08:21] <powertool08> poyntz: GNU/screen would be nice for checking in on them without leaving a bunch of windows open.
[08:21] <timewriter> im gonna grab it then
[08:22] <poyntz> powertool08: then the cpu would unsafely be randomly allocating process time, no? what if the program isn't designed to handle these random shuffles. especially with so much processing power going toward transcoding such a high number of files?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: but you can use wubi if you like. It does run. I personally dislike the idea so avoid it
[08:22] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, I think it will be fine, I have another HDD to do a dry run on for this laptop, the worst that'll happen is I'll have to put this HDD back in!
[08:22] <TeamColtra> Let me ask this way... is there a way to just force a FSCK of the entire system?
[08:22] <DrIshaiMD> ActionParsnip, alt+k+printscrn doesnt work, just asks me to cave screenshot
[08:22] <powertool08> poyntz: I dunno, I don't transcode files so I couldn't say for sure.
[08:23] <poyntz> powertool08: no worries. thanks anyhow. i'll keep it on my mind
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> DrIshaiMD: press the printscreen last
[08:23] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, I agree, I plan to dump it and reformat/reinstall I just wanted to make it as easy as possible. I have up to date aptoncd's burned and tested, and backed up my home dir as well.
[08:23] <DrIshaiMD> action, I did!
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: nice, if you make a seperate partition for home you will have fewer isses with reinstall
[08:24] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip, I absolutely agree, and plan to do so!
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> DrIshaiMD: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> DrIshaiMD: simple websearch and bam, useful guie
[08:25] <powertool08> DrIshaiMD: if you are on a laptop you may need to push <Fn> to get the printscreen key to work right.
[08:25] <DrIshaiMD> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[08:25] <poyntz> i'm amazed so many apps seem to be available for KDE but not gnome... what's with that?
[08:26] <powertool08> poyntz: KDE > gnome :D
[08:26] <DrIshaiMD> ooooh looks like fglrx is a no go
[08:26] <DrIshaiMD> thats a bummer
[08:26] <CppIsWeird> i just plugged in an sata card and i dont see the drives connected to it at all, not even in dmesg. how do i see if the card is being picked up?
[08:26] <poyntz> powertool08: so why are you using xfce and gnome then? :P
[08:27] <powertool08> poyntz: I don't use gnome. I use xfce because I don't like KDE4 and 3.5 is outdated now.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> CppIsWeird: sudo fdisk -l     will show you the drives and partitions
[08:27] <oddhyena> i don't like kde
[08:27] <oddhyena> it's too konfusing
[08:27] <greezmunkey> laggg
[08:27] <poyntz> powertool08: ahh k. so you prefer both xfce and kde to gnome?
[08:27] <CppIsWeird> poyntz, thats how i know i don't see the drives. ;)
[08:28] <DrIshaiMD> ok all thanks for your help
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> CppIsWeird: if you dont see any, run:   dmesg | less      to see whats detected at bootup, you may need to run: lspci    to see what the card is, you may need extra packages or even compile a kernel module for the card to work
[08:28] <TeamColtra> Okay I tried rebooting it again... the first error is /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries /lib/libc.so.6: invalid ELF header ten Failure: apArmor profiles filaed to load then /sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libpthread.so0: invalid ELF header then goes into Kernal Panic
[08:28] <poyntz> CppIsWeird: you'll have to explain that one to me
[08:28] <powertool08> poyntz: Yes, although I may start to like gnome more since I don't like KDE4. I also have used LXDE and Enlightenment. XFCE is the best blend though.
[08:29] <powertool08> poyntz: I don't like all the bloat that comes with KDE/gnome, yet I usually still end up with the libraries due to a few favorite programs which require them.
[08:29] <poyntz> powertool08: xubuntu I'm guessing? I've never tried xubuntu, but DreamLinux is nice. I've stopped using it temporarily because I have to issue the command startx every time I want to go from the console to the GUI :/
[08:30] <poyntz> powertool08: Amarok seems like an awesome player. Couldn't go back to Mplayer now I'm enjoying it so much :P
[08:30] <powertool08> poyntz: I'm actually on Sidux now, its based on Debian Sid.
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: you can install xubuntu-desktop    or xfce4   and you will get the equivelant of xubuntu
[08:30] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: same with KDE?
[08:31] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I don't see the point tho, because I've already got once xfce OS
[08:31] <CppIsWeird> ActionParsnip: i don't even see the card in lspci, does this mean its dead or something?
[08:31] <powertool08> poyntz: I use mpd as my music player, and ncmpc as the client front end. I think sonata is a gui front end for it.
[08:31] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: and I like gnome :P
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: not sure on the base kde package but you can install kubuntu-desktop and it will be the same
[08:31] <dryg> huzzah for gnome
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> CppIsWeird: read    dmesg | less    through, see what it says
[08:31] <Trezker> the only thing I don't like about gnome is the memory leaking in gnome-panel
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: i like LXDE
[08:31] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I'm a little lost. If it's that easy, why is Kubuntu Karmic Koala not out yet?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: it is: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
[08:32] <poyntz> lol. whoops :P
[08:32] <powertool08> poyntz: The internets are offended by its initials :P
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: i use ulite, then throw lxde on it. Works great
[08:33] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: What is ulite?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: installs a very minimal system, check it out
[08:33] <karbo> what the f is up with all these file transfers coming from the ubuntu channels lately?
[08:33] <manitu> SultansElephant, ??????
[08:33] <Trezker> karbo, script kiddies
[08:33] <poyntz> ActionParsnip powertool08 : I'm guessing these players have iPod support, allow playlists, have nice GUI front ends, do the prev/next track, pause, stop, etc.
[08:34] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: Is it an Ubuntu specific thing?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: no idea, ipods are garbage
[08:34] <oddhyena> manitu, did you get something from SultansElephant too?
[08:34]  * powertool08 Doesn't have an ipod
[08:34] <karbo> well can someone gimme their address so I can go and become their new daddy?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: its an ubuntu based thing
[08:34] <karbo> bloddy morons
[08:34] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: it's the only media player I have tho, and i cbfed buying another when it works fine :P
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> karbo: check the IP of the connection ;)
[08:34] <timewriter> i like gnomes too
[08:34] <timewriter> and dwarves
[08:34] <ubuntujenkins> oddhyena i go it to
[08:35] <oddhyena> ubuntujenkins, what?
[08:35] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: but yeh, I try to pass on Mac's and their proprietory lock-ins
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: theres gtkpod, bansee and amarok which support ipod. I'm sure others will too.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | poyntz
[08:35] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I love archlinux's net install. It gives you a minimal install that is completely up to date because it grabs all the files from repo's instead of the cd. Is it similar to that?
[08:35] <nikre> powertool08, this is the error after I remove /tmp/X.. lock file. http://pastebin.com/m655be828
[08:35] <manitu> oddhyena, dcc chat
[08:35] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I'm using Amarok
[08:35] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I didn't like gtkpod
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: should do it for you
[08:35] <ubuntujenkins> the thing from sultanselephant didn't except it though
[08:36] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: the only annoying thing about it is that it doesn't transcode. actually there's more wrong with it than that, but that's a start
[08:36] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: and I have flac files which wont play on iPod
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: pretty much, you install ulite from CD, then they have provided a script to set things up nice, you can then install whatever desktop you like, I use LXDE because its small
[08:37] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: what's kubuntu weight wise?
[08:37] <lightpriest> ActionParsnip: you should get extra "ubuntu stars", I always see you here - helping ppl ;)
[08:37] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: Sounds great, I'll have to remember it next time I install Ubuntu.
[08:37] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: sorry, i mean kubuntu-desktop
[08:37] <agusj> how to configure joystick
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: you have a device which is made to primarilty only talk to itunes which only runs on windows or mac so you are pretty screwed
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: some people even run a virtualbox with windows because their ipods suck so bad
[08:37] <lightpriest> heh
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lightpriest: thanks :)
[08:38] <lightpriest> a friend of mine had no choice (he has windows on a virtualbox for his iphone)
[08:38] <nmudgal> i  use squid proxy server & has put proxy in the appropriate file but still error http://fpaste.org/w1S0/
[08:38] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: yeh. i think it gets worse with the newer versions. i deliverately picked the shuffle to give the linux engineers time to work it out
[08:38] <kwork> ActionParsnip,  you can change the software on ipod
[08:38] <SultansElephant> my bad
[08:38] <kwork> ActionParsnip,  and by that get it linux compatible
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> !rockbox | kwork
[08:38] <SultansElephant> it was my irc client
[08:38] <oddhyena> the iphone is it's own OS with it's own filesystem, it has a server that itunes talks to
[08:38] <fra> !list
[08:38] <nmudgal> i  use squid proxy server & has put proxy in the appropriate file but still error http://fpaste.org/w1S0/
[08:38] <SultansElephant> !BitchX
[08:38] <Raz_> whats up everyone
[08:38] <kwork> ActionParsnip,  sadly my model doesnot support rockbox :(
[08:39] <poyntz> kwork: have you used it? what's it like?
[08:39] <lightpriest> poyntz: i bought a sansa clip instead of the shuffle, sandisk even has a linux support forum for that
[08:39] <powertool08> nikre: Maybe this is a solution? http://www.mail-archive.com/vnc-list@realvnc.com/msg11989.html
[08:39] <nmudgal> Raz_: i  use squid proxy server & has put proxy in the appropriate file but still error http://fpaste.org/w1S0/
[08:39] <SultansElephant> iknonia: still?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> kwork: thats all i know dude
[08:39] <kwork> poyntz,  my friend has it, its working nothing else i know to say about it
[08:39] <lightpriest> nmudgal: you're trying to "install update"
[08:39] <nmudgal> lightpriest: yeah i am trying to do that
[08:40] <lightpriest> nmudgal: you're trying to "install update", and as apt-get says... there's no such package. you should "sudo apt-get update"
[08:40] <poyntz> kwork: see that could mean that it plays mp3... lol. i'll try to see what i can do with apple's crappy ipod firmware :P
[08:40] <kwork> poyntz,  yeah it plays mp3, not sure about anything else :P
[08:40] <lightpriest> nmudgal: update and install are both actions, and the first parameter of apt-get is an action
[08:40] <handjob> I NEED SOME HELP. I've edited /etc/group and added another user to "admin" it didn't worked but the worst part is that the old user lost ther priviliges of sudo and as far as i remeber the rood is turned off by default. Am i fucked for good ?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: if you hit it with a hammer it makes it fatser, hit it really hard HAHAHAHAHA (DONT, joke)
[08:40] <userfriendly> waaaaah... 9.10 upgrade overwrote my hosts file >.<
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> userfriendly: restore from backup
[08:40] <nmudgal> lightpriest: ok man! thnxs
[08:40] <poyntz> just looking at the KDE desktop environment tho. it looks like a waste of space... and resources...
[08:41] <userfriendly> backup... what is this backup you speak of...
[08:41] <SultansElephant> what's so hard about doing a full reinstall
[08:41] <kwork> poyntz, go for flux of xfce if you want lightweight
[08:41] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: when it starts to screw up I might just do that ;)
[08:41] <kwork> flux or xfce
[08:41] <powertool08> handjob: try 'sudo su -' it may give you a root shell.
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> userfriendly: the backup you made, if the file is important yuo will have made a backup
[08:41] <lightpriest> handjob: if you used gedit to edit the file, gedit keeps a "filename"~ backup file after you save
[08:41] <userfriendly> ;)
[08:41] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: of course, providing that I no longer have warranty
[08:41] <userfriendly> point taken
[08:41] <SultansElephant> Calling KDE or GNOME 'bloated' is just elitist nerdiness unless you're still clutching on to some ancient pc
[08:41] <lstarnes> handjob: sudo -i is preferred over sudo su -
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> kwork: flux has amazing hotkey configs
[08:41] <nmudgal> lightpriest: it's done such an idiocy !!
[08:41] <kwork> ActionParsnip,  when i was gentoo freak, i always had flux :P
[08:41] <lightpriest> nmudgal: what?
[08:42] <SultansElephant> what about puppy
[08:42] <SultansElephant> that thing is amazing
[08:42] <handjob> "user is not in the sudoers..."
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> kwork: i used to run it, now i'm LXDE
[08:42] <poyntz> kwork: I already have DreamLinux xfce, which is very quick. the only reason I'm contemplating KDE is because many apps require it
[08:42] <SultansElephant> you mean the ones that start with k
[08:42] <ikonia> SultansElephant: do you have an ubuntu support discussion
[08:42] <CyberJack77> I recently installed 9.10 and now 2 of my harddisks are giving "exception Emask frozen" and "hard resetting link" errors/warnings. Does anybody know how to solve this? I never got this messages under 8.10. dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/323125/
[08:42] <nmudgal> lightpriest: done man i just forget that !!
[08:43] <lightpriest> handjob: if you didn't set a root password (and you are not in the sudoers file) you have to boot as single user (or use a liveCD)
[08:43]  * poyntz thinks that everyone should be aware that linux is never forward compatible LOL
[08:43] <handjob> lightpriest, OF course! Thank You kind Sir!
[08:43] <blacksun7> anyone very familiar with bash scripting here that could help me out with a renaming script?
[08:43] <powertool08> poyntz: Sure it is, just only in the areas in which linux developers are interested.
[08:43] <poyntz> ...maybe partially forward compatible. and by that, I mean things will break
[08:44] <lightpriest> handjob: either the sudoers file, admin group, something in the middle got screwed. you won't be able to login as root from a normal user if you don't have a root password
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> blacksun7: i'd ask in #bash
[08:44] <cprakash> I am getting an 'Uncorrectable data error or media is right protected' for 6 blocks on the hard disk when running dell diagnostics
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: depeds what you buy and config
[08:44] <blacksun7> thanks ActionParsnip
[08:44] <cprakash> Does this mean I have to replace the hard disk as it is corrput ?
[08:44] <poyntz> powertool08: you're probably right. but I've lost the desktop a few times, due to code incompatibilities
[08:44] <handjob> lightpriest, Ah btw any idea why this occured when i added user to admin group using vim (firstuser:nextuser)?
[08:44] <cprakash> Is it possible to fix it with some cammand on ubuntu ?
[08:44] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: not much bought. Running pretty much all off open source software
[08:44] <cprakash> I ran fsck at boot time as well as chkdsk of windows at boot
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> cprakash: boot to live CD and fsck the disk
[08:45] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: that's aside from games.
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: some games run amazingly
[08:45] <cprakash> ok
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: some devs even make linux installers for their games
[08:45] <cprakash> thanks ActionParsnip
[08:46] <b0nn> hrm, I'm having wifi problems, anyone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting?
[08:46] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: now that is something I'd love to see. I'd also like to see more gnome apps and less wine ones
[08:46] <lightpriest> handjob: in /etc/group file, : is an option delimiter and "," is a list delimiter. i.e. you should have done admin:XX:XX:user1,user2
[08:46] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: for instance, I have to use wine to highlight in PDF files
[08:46] <handjob> lightpriest, ah thank You again.
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: as an example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Doom3
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: you should research before ranting
[08:47] <lightpriest> handjob: usually in linux configuration files a comma is a list delimiter
[08:47] <powertool08> poyntz: Sauerbraten is another fps linux game.
[08:47] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I wasn't ranting about games :P. I was ranting about how things break in upgrades :P
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: log bugs when they do, they will be attended
[08:47] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: all my games have continued to work through every dist upgrade
[08:47] <morticia_> hi
[08:47] <morticia_> how do I close the firefox process? when it's closed but still running
[08:48] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: when I upgraded to karmic, i only lost my ability to use the console/gnome desktop
[08:48] <b0nn> morticia_: killall firefox
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: powertool08: penumbra is an awesome linux native game, its paid for but the demo is killer
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: did you log a bug?
[08:48] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: thankfully I was dual booting with DreamLinux, so I could fix it from that OS
[08:48] <Tartaros> where can I set what's the title of an xterm window/tab ?
[08:49] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I only generally log bugs if it does the log locating, etc for me. I have never any idea which package runs what and what outputs to attach to bug reports
[08:49] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: generally they close my bug reports due to a lack of information
[08:49] <morticia_> b0nn: thanks
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: it will be moved if its the wrong package, logging bugs makes things work better
[08:50] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: yeh. figures. sometimes i even wish i could help. but my knowledge of linux is very limited, as is my knowledge of C++, python, etc.
[08:51] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: that doesn't mean I couldn't do it. I know the concepts and I could code crappy little programs that aren't of any use to anyone
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: its not expected to e, ubuntu is made for new users to linux
[08:51] <jove> hello, does anyone know how to get "traceroute" ?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: if stuff is in error, report it, a child can do that
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> jove: sudo apt-get install traceroute
[08:51] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I meant for me to contribute. you'd have to know the linux OS like the back of your hand, no?
[08:52] <anarcap> HI all. Question about video playback on VLC, SMPlayer, etc. I have a DVD of the movie Cars and opened it up in a few movie players on Ubuntu 9.10 and they all start up in Full Screen (standard 4:3) and not widescreen. I know that the DVD is widescreen, and I can't figure out how to get it to play in widescreen
[08:52] <Hans_Henrik> first time this happens, i opened a shell on my server, and it spammed "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied"  a few sec before i could write anything :s
[08:52] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: provided they can give contributors the info they need to fix it
[08:52] <powertool08> poyntz: Not necessarily, file what you know, they ask for more info, then you give them what they ask for.
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: no, just say when something is wrong and someone more knowledgable will ask you to generate info from your system to beef up the info
[08:53] <poyntz> ActionParsnip powertool08 : provided they point me in the right direction. Often I find once a bug report gets marked as something different, people stop looking at it
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: like on launchpad questions, some people log questions with so little information that its hard to know what they are asking, so you ask them to clarify
[08:53] <ardchoille> Perhaps the bugs convo can be moved to #ubuntu-bugs?
[08:53] <jove> actionparsip: it failed, do you have any idea ?  wine-dev: Depends: wine (= 0.9.35~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> jove: you can then run: traceroute destination    and you will tracerote to whatever you need to test
[08:53] <poyntz> you'd be surprised. a lot of the time they just say "thread close due to insufficient information"
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> jove: you need to have wine 0.9.35 installed to install the dev package
[08:54] <poyntz> ey ActionParsnip, is kubuntu-desktop the full kubuntu package?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: then keep it alive asking "what information do you need of me" etc
[08:55] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: i'll do that next time
[08:55] <jove> actionparsnip: how to get wine 0.9.35 ?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: its kde plus all the apps which are installed in a standard kubuntu install
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> jove: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:55] <ibmx61> hi
[08:55] <Hans_Henrik> whenever i open a shell, it spam "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied" a few seconds before i can write anything :s never happened before, any ideas what has happed?
[08:55] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: any way I could just get KDE, and run the gnome apps off it?
[08:55] <lengend> jove, what country are you from?
[08:55] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: that's probably a stupid question
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: if you have gnome apps like gedit installed, you will also et kate and kwrite so expect duplicate apps, you can uninstall the apps you dont need
[08:56] <Tartaros> where can I set what's the title of an xterm window/tab ? - nvm I figured it out. If anyone happened to care, it's in ~/.bashrc script
[08:56] <poyntz> Hans_Henrik: I'm picking you don't have root access from the user account you've logged into
[08:56] <ardchoille> poyntz: kde apps run fine in gnome and vice versa
[08:56] <ricree> I've been having a problem with sound since I upgraded to 9.10.   Certain programs (mostly mp3 players) have a bad echoing effect, although other programs (VLC, Flash player) work fine.  Most guides I found online only deal with issues that effect the entire system.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[08:56] <jove> actionparsnip: it still failed:  wine-dev: Depends: wine (= 0.9.35~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1) but 1.0.1-0ubuntu3~intrepid1 is to be installed
[08:56] <poyntz> ardchoille: but the scripts may not. take transkode for example...
[08:56] <SultansElephant> ActionParsnip : you can run KDE apps in GNOME and vice-versa it'll automatically install the dependencies
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> SultansElephant: absolutely, some are weird but will run
[08:57] <poyntz> SultansElephant: not if you have to install from source, because the KDE app/script isn't in the repos
[08:57] <anarcap>  HI all. Question about video playback on VLC, SMPlayer, MPlayer etc. I have a DVD of the movie Cars and opened it up in a few movie players on Ubuntu 9.10 and they all start up in Full Screen (standard 4:3) and not widescreen. I know that the DVD is widescreen, and I can't figure out how to get it to play in widescreen
[08:57] <SultansElephant> jove : what are you trying to do?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> SultansElephant: the deps will be met by apt-get / synaptic / whatever
[08:57] <SultansElephant> poyntz : ppa
[08:57] <hassanakevazir> can someone tell me www.google.com 's ip? for some reason my dns is not resolving it, but works otherwise
[08:57] <Hans_Henrik> poyntz: i am in sudo-users (or what its called), but.. why did this happen just now?
[08:58] <powertool08> anarcap: Some applications have an aspect ratio setting in the options/preferences menu.
[08:58] <jove> sultanselephant: trying to install "traceroute"
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Hans_Henrik: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/27030-bash-dev-null-permission-denied-why.html
[08:58] <poyntz> Hans_Henrik: so in a terminal you can use "sudo"? also have you tried seeing if xterm works?
[08:59] <Hans_Henrik> poyntz: yup, nope
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> hassanakevazir: i get 74.125.159.106
[08:59] <poyntz> Hans_Henrik: I'd be picking it's a permission issue. if it is, you may have to log into Ubuntu recovery mode and reset permissions
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: read the guide i pasted
[08:59] <SultansElephant> jove : you dont need windows traceroute
[08:59] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I don't have the issue. But I've had permissions dilemmas before. Either way I'll check out the guide. thanks!
[08:59] <SultansElephant> jove : you can use bash's traceroute
[08:59] <suigeneris> I just realized that videos on facebook don't play to their full length when on ubuntu. anyone can tell me how I can fix that?
[08:59] <powertool08> hassanakevazir: Google has many IP's, it picks the one closest to you, so depending on your location, it could be very different from the IP I have for google.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: reinstall flash
[09:00] <SultansElephant> suigeneris : get more codecs
[09:00] <SultansElephant> !medibuntu | suigeneris
[09:00] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: odd that you can just chmod, change permissions for the directory :/
[09:00] <ricree> I've been having a problem with sound since I upgraded to 9.10.   Certain programs (mostly mp3 players) have a bad echoing effect, although other programs (VLC, Flash player) work fine.  Most guides I found online only deal with issues that effect the entire system.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[09:00] <jove> sultanselephant, it couldn't do it either
[09:00] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: *can't
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: its not a directory
[09:01] <SultansElephant> jove : did you install traceroute (sudo apt-get install traceroute) or in synaptic
[09:01] <hassanakevazir> ActionParsnip, powertool08, basically all domain addresses are working but google. But thanks, that IP works fine here. and now if I only remember what I was searching for ...
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: try:   file /dev/null
[09:01] <jove> no, it failed because it did not have wine
[09:01] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: yeh, in shell it's yellow
[09:01] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: not sure what that means, but it can't be a directory
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: run the command I gave, it will tell you
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> jove: try adding the wine repo, may help
[09:02] <SultansElephant> jove : all right, i will accept that you need wine for whatever reason. go to winehq.com
[09:02] <powertool08> hassanakevazir: All of google's IP's would work for you, but the closer ones would work faster, though its probably a negligible difference.
[09:02] <SultansElephant> !jove | wine
[09:02] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: what's character special mean?
[09:02] <SultansElephant> !wine | jove
[09:02] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, do you remember anybody having this issue before?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: not sure, websearch to find out. I'm sure jeeves will know
[09:02] <TimeRider> wine is good for you
[09:03] <SultansElephant> i use crossover and playonlinux
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: not had it myself, you can try the 10.1 beta flash if your ubuntu is 32bit
[09:03] <anarcap> powertool08 - Yes, I know about the aspect ration option. However, that only the changes the output and will only force the 4:3 into 16:9 thus streching out the video. On most discs there are 2 versions of the movie, a 4:3 version and a 16:9 versions. For some reason my movie players are only playing the 4:3 version and I have no option to change it.
[09:03] <Tronic> How can I set my keyring master password?
[09:03] <SultansElephant> (yes i know it's based on wine)
[09:03] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, how can I get that one by apt-get?
[09:03] <Tronic> Evolution keeps asking for that and it doesn't accept my login password.
[09:03] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: thanks for the command tho. i should've known it already
[09:03] <suigeneris> with*
[09:04] <powertool08> anarcap: Heh, tried flipping the dvd over?
[09:04] <TimeRider> lmao power
[09:04] <hassanakevazir> ricree, whats your sound card? lspci | grep Audio
[09:04] <SultansElephant> stop grepping me audio
[09:04] <ricree> hassanakevazir:  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:04] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: judging by what I've found it seems remotely like a partition...
[09:04] <Hans_Henrik> ActionParsnip: tried all, ls -l /dev/null;rm /dev/null;mknod -m 0666 /dev/null c 1 3;   as root, and i still get it when i open a new shell (not as root)
[09:04] <suigeneris> Tronic, does any other e-mail client accept your login password?
[09:05] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: like sda hda, etc.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: its a special file, its just a blak hole to throw garbage into
[09:05] <ardchoille> poyntz: sda and hda are not partitions, they are devices.. a partion would be sda1, hda1, etc
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: we used to ssh into each others systems at uni and run:   yes > /dev/null      "oh noes, mi megahurtz!"
[09:06] <poyntz> ardchoille: sorry. that's what i meant. i was going to write sda* hda*
[09:06] <SultansElephant> poyntz : have you tried ubuntuforums.org ?
[09:06] <SultansElephant> poyntz : those people are usually nicer and more knowledgable
[09:07] <anarcap> powertool08 -- OMG, I'm a moron. Forgive me. It IS a fullscreen DVD. Sorry.
[09:07] <wuffi600> hi.
[09:07] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: I don't understand how that would work when "null" isn't a text file :/
[09:07] <SultansElephant> poyntz : doesnt seem like  youre getting anywhere here, try it
[09:07] <powertool08> anarcap: Its alright, I've done it too :)
[09:07] <anarcap> powertool08 - take it easy, and thanks.
[09:07] <lstarnes> poyntz: it's not a normal file
[09:07] <Hans_Henrik>  /dev/null =(void)data
[09:07] <SultansElephant> !forum | poyntz
[09:08] <SultansElephant> join #ubuntuforums
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: yes just echos "yes" with a carridge return, the system then throws it into /dev/null    yes works as fast as it can so cloggs up the cpu
[09:08] <poyntz> SultansElephant: yeh, I already have it as a quick launch :P
[09:08] <poyntz> SultansElephant: thanks anyhow
[09:08] <poyntz> SultansElephant: I use the forums a fair bit
[09:09] <Bacta> What's the newest version of Ubuntu?
[09:09] <lstarnes> Bacta: 9.10
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | Bacta
[09:09] <Bacta> When's 10.04 coming?
[09:09] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: acting almost like a loop of sorts?
[09:10] <whammo> does anybody know how to change which kernel will be first in grub2's boot list?
[09:10] <lstarnes> Bacta: april 2010
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Bacta: ubuntu uses calendar times for names
[09:10] <ardchoille> Bacta: April of 2010 hopefully
[09:10] <Bacta> ah so 9.10 is the new one?
[09:10] <wuffi600> if i do an "apt-get update" i get an errormessage about not working signature verification. How can i solve this? please see here:  http://pastebin.org/55475 Could you help me?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Bacta: its realesed 20 (10) in aprile (4)th month
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Bacta: hence 10.04
[09:10] <Guest54467> i accidentally got rid of the network status icon on the main panel how do i get it back
[09:10] <whammo> I'm wasting too much time rebooting because I forget to hold shift
[09:10] <Bacta> ah :) Clever
[09:10] <Bacta> Never understood those version numbers until now
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Bacta: intrepid is 8.10, it was released 200(8) in october (10)th month
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Bacta: its hugely logical
[09:11] <whammo> canonical people are smert
[09:11] <Hans_Henrik> ActionParsnip: xD sorry, i had 2x shells up, 1 with SSH to the remote computer, and 1 with local, i wrote the commands on the wrong shell (localhost) xD sorry
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hans_Henrik: d'oh
[09:12] <powertool08> It makes it easy to remember when I first installed Ubuntu too!
[09:12] <silv3r_m00n> is there a version of quanta plus for kde 4 ?
[09:12] <superpaco> does any one know how I can make an ISO out my installed ubuntu??
[09:12] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: do you contribute to ubuntu?
[09:13] <ardchoille> !remastersys
[09:13] <superpaco> does any one know how I can make an ISO out my installed ubuntu??
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: only here and launchpad, i'm part of the lubuntu team but i havent contributed much really
[09:13] <ardchoille> poyntz: simply by providing support for Ubuntu, he is supporting Ubuntu :)
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> poyntz: i'm 5th largest answerer on launchpad too :)
[09:13] <Tartaros> superpaco: define "iso out my installed ubuntu". Also, don't repeat your questions like there's no tomorrow
[09:14] <superpaco> ISO
[09:14] <poyntz> ActionParsnip: wow. same pseudo?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Tartaros: i think like a prtition image
[09:14] <superpaco> well easy I have a ubuntu with a lot of compilations on the kernel I want to make a copy of that copy
[09:14] <superpaco> simple
[09:14] <lengend> does wine usually lag? LIke i click on my task bar to go to winamp, but it won't come on-top
[09:15] <ardchoille> lengend: you're running winamp in wine?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> superpaco: you can use partimage to backup your partition, it will also compress it for you, you can then easily restore the partition using the same tool, you will not be able to boot from the image
[09:15] <powertool08> lengend: Why are you using winamp in wine? Audacious is the same thing but newer
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> !winamp
[09:15] <ardchoille> lengend: Why not just run audacious? It doesn't need wine and it uses the same skins, it's almost a winamp clone
[09:16] <manitu> ActionParsnip, booted the notebook with knoppix now.. i can fully access the hdd :(
[09:16] <lengend> well, i need winamp because of shoutcast
[09:16] <poyntz> !amarok | lengend
[09:16] <lengend> but i will give Audacious a try though
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> manitu: then check the dmesg output and loaded modules
[09:16] <Hans_Henrik> ActionParsnip: i guess its off-topic but what is lubuntu?
[09:16] <superpaco> no but I want to make an ISO so I can install it on other computers... is that possible on ubuntu??? is possible on BT that is ubuntu based
[09:16] <Rsb> hello... how can i deactivate the mouse pointer. I use a touchscreen? Can I add something in xorg.conf
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> !lubuntu | Hans_Henrik
[09:16] <poyntz> !info amarok | lengend
[09:16] <ardchoille> lengend: I was told audacious does shoutcast. Have you tried it?
[09:16] <manitu> ActionParsnip, *newbie* :(
[09:17] <n2diy> My test box has grown up, and is ready to leave the nest, how do I secure it, before setting it free in the wild?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hans_Henrik: ok, its ubuntu with LXDE as default, its like MoonOS but is officially recognised by Canonical
[09:17] <poyntz> ok, thats about my level of service today. i'm out kids. ciao!
[09:17] <poyntz> thanks for the help
[09:17] <powertool08> superpaco: Maybe its done in the same fashion as BT's method?
[09:17] <lengend> ok downloading now, thank you
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> manitu: lsmod     will show the loaded modules (drivers), you can also run:   dmesg | less    and read the bootup to see whats different
[09:17] <lengend> ohh btw the command is "sudo apt-get install audacious" right?
[09:17] <Tartaros> n2diy: wanna secure it, or set it free? can't have both :P
[09:17] <superpaco> no
[09:17] <suigeneris> how do I query the packages on my system?
[09:17] <ardchoille> lengend: yes
[09:18] <lengend> ok ty
[09:18] <superpaco> I check the directory where its the ISO and is not there
[09:18] <silv3r_m00n> how to run quanta plus on kde 4 ?
[09:18] <n2diy> Tartaros: I want to set it free, but remove my data first.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> superpaco: you can make an identically sized partition to yours and then use partimage to spit the file onto the new system
[09:18] <superpaco> backtrack creates a directory with an ISO that has all your modules
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> superpaco: you can also edit the live CD to have only what you want on it
[09:18] <ardchoille> suigeneris: see my command line cheatsheet, I have a section there for package management: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/command-line-cheatsheet.html
[09:19] <manitu> ActionParsnip, with knoppix? because ubuntu does not boot, already tried different kernel versions which still was in grub and the recovery.. couldn't boot it
[09:19] <superpaco> ActionParsnip, hoo that sound interesting
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> manitu: yes, they are both Linux so are technically the same OS
[09:19] <superpaco> how can I do that??/
[09:19] <superpaco> where is a tutorial?
[09:19] <superpaco> do you have a link??
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> superpaco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:19] <ailleantsian> is anyone able to help with a graphics problem in Karmic release
[09:19] <lengend> well, i am off to bed, thanks for the help
[09:19] <Tartaros> n2diy: afraid I don't really understand what you're talking about :)
[09:20] <lainy> how come the volume control in linux is master and pcm? is there a way to combine the two?
[09:20] <powertool08> superpaco: Also: http://maketecheasier.com/backup-ubuntu-with-remastersys/2008/12/22
[09:20] <meimei> Hi,guys!there is a question I must solve.I can read data from /dev/input/event5 under character mode,but I can't read anything under Xwindow.What's problem?Thanks.
[09:21] <Hans_Henrik> is there a way to chown a folder to several users?
[09:21] <powertool08> Hans_Henrik: Only one user can own it, the group and other permissions allow others to read/write to it.
[09:21] <ailleantsian> i have a nvida card, and never had a problem with the other releases, when i install the nvida restricted drives, and reboot i can no longer get gnome or kde desktops but get what I like just a terminal full screen
[09:22] <n2diy> Tartaros: I have a test box, and a mission critical box. I now have a new test box, so the old one is redundant, and should be disposed of. I want to donate the test box, but don't want my data exposed to the new owner of the test box.
[09:22] <powertool08> n2diy: Google DBAN
[09:23] <suigeneris> Package flashplayer-mozilla is not available, but is referred to by another package. <--- what does that mean?
[09:23] <hassanakevazir> ailleantsian, try sudo nvidia-xconfig , then restart
[09:23] <n2diy> powertool08: ok.
[09:23] <lainy> everytime i change my volume i have to fiddle between both master and pcm in alsamixer... is there an easier way, i.e., just one combined volume control?
[09:23] <Tartaros> n2diy: burn the disk then, that's the only secure way :P
[09:23] <ashiswin> umm
[09:23] <ashiswin> hello
[09:23] <powertool08> n2diy: I've also heard if you use dd to overwrite the entire thing with all 0's or all 1's its pretty much unrecoverable.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Hans_Henrik: you'll need to make a group, add them (and root) to the group, then use  chown :groupname_here folder
[09:23] <ashiswin> anyone who knows how to develop an operating system pleeeeeease pm me. very very urgent
[09:23] <ailleantsian> suigeneris , ihad that problem but in the software library in gnome in the other category there is a flash player there
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Hans_Henrik: you can add -R to make it a recursive chown, and you'll need sudo if your user is not the owner
[09:24] <powertool08> lainy: Turn one all the way up and use the other to change the volume, save the setting with 'sudo alsactl store 0'
[09:24] <ailleantsian> hasanakevazir: so if i install the nvida drivers again and when i reboot get to that or should i do that before trying to install them again
[09:24] <Tartaros> ashiswin: you're urgently developing an OS? that's kind of funny. But good luck with it, especially here :)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> ashiswin: i suggest you look into gentoo for that
[09:25] <ashiswin> Tartaros: im looking for womeone with experience
[09:25] <ashiswin> ActionParsnip: why?
[09:25] <n2diy> Tartaros: , powertool08, ok, but, I want to preserve the system, just get my stuff off it. My thoughts are to reinstall, but only reformat the /home partition.
[09:25] <hassanakevazir> ailleantsian, if your drivers are no installed do that. by the way whats your nvidia card?
[09:25] <suigeneris> !find flashplayer-mozilla
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> ashiswin: its a good place to start developing your own OS from
[09:26] <hassanakevazir> ailleantsian, if your drivers are right now installed do that. by the way whats your nvidia card?
[09:26] <ikonia> suigeneris: check out flashplugin-nonfree
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> !flash | suigeneris
[09:26] <powertool08> n2diy: Hmm, if you had put home on its own partition this would be easy...
[09:26] <ashiswin> ActionParsnip: Gentoo??? Cant i use ubuntu?
[09:26] <n2diy> powertool08: I did.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: if you want the 10.1 flash and have 32bit ubuntu you can download the file to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ashiswin: sure, you'll be using apt-build though. Depends what your perception of "develop" is
[09:27] <Tartaros> ashiswin: of course you can use ubuntu. You didn't say what you need to do so far
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ashiswin: if you mean "install" then download the desktop ISO, MD5 test it, burn it and boot to it
[09:27] <ailleantsian> hassanakevazir: NVIDIA GeForce Go 6600
[09:28] <powertool08> n2diy: Ok, so just boot from a live cd, mkfs <preferred filesystem> on the home partition, mount it and create needed directories, restart. It will lose all user specific settings, but your info will be gone.
[09:28] <om26er> i change the exorg for custom resolution but has no effect. i can get 1368*768 but not 1280*1024
[09:28] <hassanakevazir> he is spamming around asking how to develop an OS, i call troll ...
[09:28] <om26er> i am using nvidia driver 185
[09:28] <ashiswin> Tartaros, ActionParsnip: i mean creating a bootloader and kernel and making the bootloader call the kernel
[09:29] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, there's no ~/.mozilla/plugins. should I mkdir?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: indeed
[09:29] <Tartaros> ashiswin: "creating" as in programming?
[09:29] <ashiswin> Tartaros: yea
[09:29] <hassanakevazir> ailleantsian, ok, then install the restricted drivers, run sudo nvidia-xconfig and restart
[09:29] <Tartaros> ashiswin: well, why?
[09:29] <n2diy> powertool08: umm, ok. That seems like work! Wouldn't reformatting /home do the trick?
[09:30] <ashiswin> Tartaros: I got plans, why dont u pm me
[09:30] <Tartaros> ashiswin: why would I? :)
[09:30] <powertool08> n2diy: If you have some extra space on the drive, make a new partition, mount it in place of the current /home, once happy, delete the other partition and add the freed up space to the new /home partition.
[09:31] <ashiswin> Tartaros: Well, u seem to know OS dev
[09:31] <ardchoille> !ot
[09:31] <powertool08> n2diy: That's what I said to do, but I don't think you can do it while running the system you are changing, hence the live cd.
[09:31] <ailleantsian> hassanakevazir: I run that command and get command not found
[09:31] <n2diy> powertool08: this is my test box, everything is backed up already. (knock on wood)
[09:31] <powertool08> n2diy: Also, the command mkfs is used to format.
[09:31] <Tartaros> ashiswin: i do? wonderful news. Anyway as I said, good luck with that here... this is support channel for ubuntu, which is an already established OS.
[09:32] <ashiswin> lol, k
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz; tar zxvf ./flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz; mv ./install_flash_player_10_linux/libflashplayer.so .; rm -rf ./install_flash_player_10_linux/; rm ./ flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz
[09:32] <n2diy> powertool08: I have access to the box via ssh, on the soho lan.
[09:32] <suigeneris> thank you ActionParsnip
[09:32] <Parsi> what's different between ubuntu 32-bit and 64-bit?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: you should then remove any flashplugin packages you have installed like flashplugin-installer or flashplugin-nonfree
[09:33] <Parsi> does 64-bit run faster?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: as well as any gnash and swfdec packages too
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: in some situations yes, as just a desktop, no
[09:33] <alankila> Parsi: depends on application. 64-bit systems have a nasty tendency to allocate 8 bytes per pointer, which can be a real memory drain.
[09:34] <Parsi> ActionParsnip: what about converting video files ?
[09:34] <powertool08> n2diy: I don't know for sure if you can reformat home on a live system, I'd think you'd have to be at init 3 (single user mode) at least, but best to do it from a live cd.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: thats where it is faster, data translations are faster
[09:34] <alankila> most applications do not actually need the memory available from this wide pointer, so it is wasted memory.
[09:34] <Parsi> ActionParsnip: is there any converter for ubuntu that supports 64-bit?
[09:34] <n2diy> powertool08: roger that, thanks.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> alankila: unused ram in linux is used as disk cache to make hdd access faster, so is in no way wasted
[09:34] <hassanakevazir> ailleantsian, then uninstall the restricted drivers, and either use "envyng-gtk" to install your nvidia drivers, then run the command, or use a ppa repository, I use https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[09:35] <ailleantsian> hassanakevazir: I opened the termninal again and it worked however i got this : Vailidation Error, Data incomplete in file /ect/11/xor.conf uneined device "(null)" referenced by screen
[09:35] <alankila> ActionParsnip: that in no way addressed what I said.
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: all the ones on the repos will be 64bit if your install is 64bit
[09:35] <ailleantsian> " default Screen "
[09:35] <powertool08> n2diy: np, good luck. Time for me to go to bed.
[09:35] <hassanakevazir> xor.conf??
[09:35] <alankila> I'm saying that 64-bit java uses 2x the memory of 32-bit java, for instance. If your workload is pointer heavy, 8 bytes per pointer is a real drag.
[09:35] <Parsi> ActionParsnip: wow, thanks
[09:35] <ailleantsian> sorry my keyboard is a bit broke and it woulnt let me copy and past
[09:36] <n2diy> powertool08: 10-4 on sack time, me too, 73
[09:36] <ailleantsian> its Xorg.confi
[09:36] <alankila> (which is why they came up with -XX:UseCompressedOops for Java, to use 32-bit pointers even on 64-bit VM, so this problem is gone.)
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: yeah its pretty sweet, you also need it to address more than 3Gb RAM (unles you install the server kernel which has PAE)
[09:36] <ailleantsian> trys to copy and past again :
[09:36] <ailleantsian> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[09:36] <ailleantsian>                   Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default
[09:36] <ailleantsian>                   Screen".
[09:36] <alankila> otherwise I haven't been able to identify any significant performance improvements from running 64-bit or 32-bit. If you don't need > 2 GB of memory, I don't think it matters to go for 64-bit.
[09:37] <n2diy> 4g?
[09:37] <Parsi> ActionParsnip: unfortunately my mainboard does not support more than 2GB of RAM
[09:37] <alankila> there may be some benefit, but these are generally sucked away by the loss of wide pointers or lower support in applications like java, mono or firefox
[09:37] <alankila> err... by the loss implied by wide pointers...
[09:37] <theneoindian> hi , i installed db2 . but typing ./db2cc gives error : db2javit: not found
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: if you are changing file formats like video encoding, go 64bit. my desktop board only supports 2Gb too
[09:38] <theshadowx> hi guys
[09:38] <n2diy> theneoindian:
[09:38] <theshadowx> i have a big problem
[09:38] <n2diy> theneoindian: "sudo updatebd?
[09:38] <Parsi> ActionParsnip: yes,
[09:38] <Parsi> i do
[09:38] <theneoindian> what is uupdatebd
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: then 64bit will be a little better under those apps, the rest will rn as fast as the 32bit
[09:39] <theshadowx> i upgraded ubunto from 9.04 --> 9.10 but i can't boot with kernel  2.6.31-14 but with 2.6.30 i can
[09:39] <n2diy> theneoindian: sorry, it should be "sudo updatedb", which updates your files.
[09:39] <alankila> well firefox under 64-bit sucks at least
[09:39] <alankila> firefox has javascript jit only for 32-bit
[09:40] <Parsi> ActionParsnip: in windows, usually 32-bit is faster than 64-bit
[09:40] <Parsi> alankila: have you any idea about firefox 64-bit?
[09:40] <axeeffect> is there a issue with DSL in karmic....i cant connect to my net ...it though use to work in 9.04
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: most apps arent 64it in windows yet
[09:40] <hullo> hello, how does vino go about automatically configuring the network to accept connections in ubuntu 9.10?
[09:40] <alankila> Parsi: yes, I run it, and it goes with JIT disabled because people don't still support 64-bit properly.
[09:40] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, the same thing
[09:40] <hassanakevazir> ailleantsian, never had that error before, no idea :/
[09:40] <ricree> I've been having a problem with sound since I upgraded to 9.10.   Certain programs (mostly mp3 players) have a bad echoing effect, although other programs (VLC, Flash player) work fine.  Most guides I found online only deal with issues that effect the entire system.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[09:41] <Klavmanian> axeeffect: are you connecting directly to your dsl modem?
[09:41] <ronald_> hello there!what kind of linux that match for gateway M520? because i use ubuntu the problem is they have no audio sound.,
[09:41] <theneoindian> n2diy,  is there any other gui tool available other than control center ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: weird, have you tried clearing your cache? Have you tried a different browser
[09:41] <axeeffect> @Klav...directly means?
[09:42] <dutchbuntu> Programs like Empathy, Evolution and XChat stop functioning when I start a VPN connection. The only program that still had internet access is Firefox. I am using OpenDNS. I have just tried the solution to change the IPv4 settings of the VPN connection: I changed the Method to 'Automatic (VPN) addresses only' and put OpenDNS's nameservers. This doesn't help me. Any suggestions?
[09:42] <fcuk112> has anyone remapped the ctrl-A," keybinding in screen to something else?
[09:42] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, yesterday I've tried that
[09:42] <ailleantsian> hassanakevazir: thanks for your help I appricate it, I will google and see if anything comes up now
[09:42] <n2diy> theneoindian: umm, not sure? I can work on the CLI.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: do other browsers work?
[09:43] <axeeffect> i have a dsl modem...i connect using ethernet...my dhcp works as jus connecting to auto eth0 does the job...but for dsl connection it keep connecting nothin happens...and i need to change ip for jdownloader
[09:43] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, dunno, I only have FF. Just a sec, I will try.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: does your VPN use a different subnet to your LAN connection?
[09:43] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, but when I look into about:plugins, it says libflashplayer.so version 10.0 is activated too. could 10.0 be interfering with 10.1?
[09:43] <theneoindian> n2diy, how can i select a database from cli ?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: if both are on 192.168.0.x   yuo wont get a connection as their is no differentiation between the vpn and the lan
[09:44] <zsolt> hi there!I'm so sad,i would like to use amsn with audio/video,but can't figure out how to install fairsight2
[09:44] <n2diy> theneoindian: umm, what is the name of the DB?
[09:44] <Klavmanian> axeeffect: i do not use dsl. but as i understand it this problem can be circumvented by using a nat device of some sort (i.e. wrt54g or other routing appliance)
[09:44] <axeeffect> @klav... :(
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: yes, you need to remove flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer
[09:44] <theneoindian> n2diy,  when i give list active databases , it doesn't show the created database
[09:44] <zsolt> i tried everything and can't understand,why it is so complicated
[09:44] <hwilde> amsn?
[09:44] <zsolt> yes
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: and any other flash packages, you also need to restart your browser to load the new plugins
[09:45] <theneoindian> n2diy,  db name is test
[09:45] <n2diy> theneoindian: ok, I think your over my head?
[09:45] <Parsi> does MONO supports all .net namespaces?
[09:46] <Andorin> I have a question. I'm thinking of getting an external USB hard drive. Do those work okay in Linux? Can I access files on them easily just like an iPod or flash drive or other USB device?
[09:46] <hwilde> zsolt, did you install gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight
[09:46] <zsolt> i tried to compile fairsight2,but without any succes:(
[09:46] <zsolt> yes
[09:46] <zsolt> everything
[09:46] <hwilde> Andorin, most of them work fine
[09:46] <hwilde> zsolt, so do you get an error or what?
[09:46] <axeeffect> is there any bug in network manger or patch...for dsl connection ....which used to work in 9.04 but dowsnt in 9.1
[09:46] <Andorin> hwilde: Thanks.
[09:46] <zsolt> amsn didn't recognize fairsight2
[09:47] <hwilde> it is called farsight, not fair
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: if you want you can use http://pastebin.com   and give the output of:   dpkg -l |grep flash; dpkg -l |grep gnash; dpkg -l |grep swf
[09:47] <theneoindian> n2diy,  it's de first time i'm using db2 and i'm really fed up with this .. if only i had the control center , i could've done smthng
[09:47] <strongsoul> help | when i do a apt-get upgrade i get this error http://pastebin.com/m3193b23c
[09:47] <kom9> zzzzzz
[09:47] <zsolt> and I can't find any .deb package for fairsight2
[09:47] <strongsoul> whats the problem ?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> axeeffect: theres a network manager daily build repo
[09:47] <soro> Hi, i have serious problem, any help will be appreciated. i messed up my karmic distro. i removed gtk -which was really a bad idea :(- and almost every packages on my system has been removed. Is there a way to reset my system to karmic defaults from the console?
[09:48] <axeeffect> is dsl anything to do with my kernel...i changed my menu.lst kenel ...using latest kernel was giving some flickers in screen...the bars used in splash screen is still not goin awa from screen...but its does come if i use old ver kernel
[09:48] <zsolt> i don't want to harm my clean installed Os
[09:48] <hwilde> soro, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/f2b6972c7
[09:48] <n2diy> theneoindian: ok, roger that. It is a long road, but a rewarding one. All I want to do is sell my test box, but not give the new owner any of my info.
[09:48] <alankila> soro: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[09:48] <strongsoul> can somebody help me ?
[09:48] <strongsoul> http://pastebin.com/m3193b23c
[09:49] <suigeneris> it still sees only 10.0
[09:49] <noFace> hey hey, I've got a studio xps 13, I've been running ubuntu on it for a fair while, and the nvidia softare for multi monitor has worked fine for VGA out, but I've just tried HDMI and it can't detect the second display at all
[09:49] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, Epiphany works
[09:49] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, Epiphany works when VPN is active
[09:49] <soro> hwilde, alankila: thanks!
[09:49] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, it still sees only 10.0
[09:49] <soro> will try
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: sudo apt-get --purge remove libswfdec-0.8-0 swfdec-gnome
[09:49] <sivang> anybody know if easy_install has a package?
[09:49] <zsolt> amsn is the only solution to me
[09:49] <sivang> I could not find it using apt-cache
[09:50] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, about the subnet, can I pastebin the output of ifconfig (with and without VPN)? Does that give the info?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: then its a settings problem in firefox, have you tried renaming ~/.mozilla then rerunning the browser?
[09:50] <ubuntu-liveuser> When I boot Ubuntu, I get all kinds of fundamental errors like not being able to mount the stuff in fstab etc.
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: as long as they are different its fine, and empathy works which means the logic is ok
[09:50] <ubuntu-liveuser> I can mount everything fine from the 9.10 live cd.
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-liveuser: did you MD5 test the ISO, did you run the CD verifier?
[09:50] <ubuntu-liveuser> Question: how can I repair the operating system on the harddrive?
[09:50] <Jetsetlemming> How do I change the settings for Grub so it pops up a list of OS's every time I turn on my computer? I have Ubuntu 9.10 and WinXP installed but Grub just auto-boots Ubuntu
[09:50] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, no FF is not the problem. FF still has access. Evolution, Empathy, XChat don't.
[09:51] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: I am running from the CD. I did the upgrade via the network.
[09:51] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, i've just setup a new xubuntu box to test some scripts on, but i would like to setup ssh access to it, i've done "ssh 192.168.0.250" on my laptop, but i get "Connection Refused"
[09:51] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: but I did so on the advice on someone in this channel. I believe the advice was wrong.
[09:51] <suigeneris> Jetsetlemming, increase the time
[09:51] <Jetsetlemming> suigeneris: and how do I do that?
[09:51] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: I basically did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade with only karmic repositories.
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-liveuser: ok cool, you can chroot to the installed system, or simply edit the files on the partition
[09:52] <n2diy> CptnAwesome: Does the error message ID the offending file?
[09:52] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: yes, I know that procedure.
[09:52] <Jetsetlemming> And I didn't even see a menu at all, I was watching when it loaded. It went straight from the Bios splash screen to the Ubuntu loading logo
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-liveuser: that isnt advised, you should use update manager
[09:52] <suigeneris> Jetsetlemming, timeout		x
[09:52] <axeeffect> Jetsetlemming change goto terminal and run sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:52] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: I know, but update manager doesn't work with a proxy.
[09:53] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: the problem basically is: what do I need to install to get the system in the same state as I would get on the LiveCD?
[09:53] <axeeffect> read the comment in the file
[09:53] <Jetsetlemming> axeeffect: that file is blank
[09:53] <CptnAwesome> "zach@zf-home:~$ ssh 192.168.0.250"     "ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.250 port 22: Connection refused"
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-liveuser: then use the alternate CD, there is an update script tere which wil upgrade yo gracefully, editting the sources file is not advised and will cause issues
[09:53] <CptnAwesome> n2diy, i just need to know how to enable SSH on the machine =)
[09:53] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: can't I just do it via the network from this livecd?
[09:53] <axeeffect> ubotto
[09:54] <axeeffect> !ubotto
[09:54] <n2diy> CptnAwesome: What does "ssh -v" tell you?
[09:54] <sivang> ah darn
[09:54] <sivang> it's python-setuptools :)
[09:54] <axeeffect> !ubotto "menu.lst"
[09:54] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: something like chroot /media/<foo> sudo apt-<something>?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: you could set a route command to tell the system to route any connections heading for the IP of your favourite irc server to use the LAN interface rather than the VPN
[09:54] <axeeffect> !ubotto menu.lst
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: not entirely graceful but wil wok
[09:54] <axeeffect> !ubotto grub
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> axeeffect: you dont need to add !ubottu
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> axeeffect: use   !grub  etc
[09:55] <roronoa> !grub | axeeffect
[09:55] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, that won't help Evolution, I guess...
[09:55] <axeeffect> :)
[09:55] <CptnAwesome> n2diy, what do you want to know, the version is "OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5ubuntu1, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007"
[09:55] <Jetsetlemming> !grub2
[09:55] <axeeffect> !menu.lst
[09:56] <axeeffect> !menu.list
[09:56] <Jetsetlemming> (I'm running Karmic)
[09:56] <Antagonist> Hmm, does Ubuntu have any support for the 3 partition system?  /boot, pagefile and /?
[09:56] <roronoa> axeeffect please use /msg ubottu ! your query to experiment the bot
[09:56] <deepsight> hello, i need some help troubleshooting an error with opengl. i get Major opcode of failed request:  135 (GLX). i have an intel graphics card. when i install xorg-driver-fglrx everything works until next reboot (weird)
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: you could tell the routing to push all requests for the vpn address down the vpn and the rest down the lan, you are going to have to shape the traffic a little, seems its not auto negotiating
[09:57] <n2diy> CptnAwesome: just wanted to make sure it was installed.
[09:57] <SandGorgon> Antagonist, pagefile is simply swap partition ... so I suppose yes
[09:57] <ubuntu-liveuser> ActionParsnip: so, is there a way to do it via the network?
[09:57] <Jetsetlemming> Ah, I see grub2 has moved from menu.lst to grub.cfg
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-liveuser: not sure, i dont use a proxy
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | Jetsetlemming
[09:58] <Jetsetlemming> ActionParsnip: I already am reading that
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Jetsetlemming: don't edit grub.cfg  it is generatedby scripts so changes will be lost next kernel install
[09:58] <axeeffect> @action...how to fix dsl connection problem
[09:58] <Jetsetlemming> ActionParsnip: So how do I make Grub2 show a menu every time I turn on the computer, then? Because it still automatically loads ubuntu. I'm trying to dual boot with xp.
[09:58] <axeeffect> its a pppoe
[09:58] <zsolt> how can I install fairsight2?it is not in the synaptic,I use Carmic
[09:59] <JordanC> Hey there folks. Does anyone know how I would be able to install MonoDevelop with Sqlite/MySQL/etc support on Karmic? I'm missing Mono.Data assembly at the moment. Can I do this using the package manager, or do I need to manually compile the app?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Jetsetlemming: you need to add an extra script / entry to grub2's config   then run: sudo update-grub   and it will be added. I don't use windows so have no experience of this
[09:59] <Antagonist> By default, if Ubuntu has its own hdd, how many partitions does it create? I'm still busy downloading so unable to test
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: you can copy the .so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[10:00] <axeeffect> @Anta...only one / swap aprtition
[10:00] <roronoa> zsolt try getting it from terminal
[10:01] <chelz> any word on what's up with packages.ubuntu.com?
[10:01] <zsolt> how may I get it from terminal?
[10:01] <CptnAwesome> "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" did the trick
[10:01] <yoshx> hello
[10:01] <Antagonist> I would like to run Ubuntu and Gentoo on same hdd.  Any specific steps I should take to make sure they play well together?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: sudo cp ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[10:01] <roronoa> zsolt try sudo apt-get fairsight2
[10:02] <axeeffect> how to renew dhcp ip address...for an auto eth0 connection
[10:02] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, that was a good tip and easier to realize then you thought. Edit VPN Connection -> IPv4 Setttings -> Routes -> Check 'Use this connection only for resources on its network'. Does exactly what you described.
[10:02] <JordanC> cheiz: Yeah, seems down
[10:02] <roronoa> zsolt wait before that sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <axeeffect> i tried dhclient -r but does work
[10:02] <n2diy> ActionParsnip: what was the last version of Windows did you use, or, have you never used Windows?
[10:03] <mrec> does anyone use ubuntu karmic? can someone load the uinput kernel module (sudo modprobe uinput) and check if /dev/uinput  or /dev/input/uinput gets created?
[10:03] <zsolt> system can't recognize it:(
[10:03] <roronoa> zsolt where did u find fairsight2?
[10:03] <axeeffect> how to renew ip for a dhcp ehternet connection
[10:04] <zsolt> nowhere in the package manager
[10:04] <CptnAwesome> ok, can anyone suggest a way to remote desktop to this new xubuntu machine?
[10:04] <roronoa> zsolt i mean how did u know about fairsight2?
[10:05] <zsolt> amsn told me,that faisight2 is needed to make videocalling
[10:05] <roronoa> zsolt try this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1227013
[10:05] <axeeffect>  ifconfig eht0 down ....then ifconfig eth0 up does connection my eth0 connection back
[10:05] <zsolt> thank you
[10:05] <Antagonist> Okay, maybe some background.  I have a 500GB HDD dedicated to Vista(soon formatted and Win7), 1500GB NTFS data HDD, and a 80GB space HDD.  That 80GB I would like to partition between Gentoo and Ubuntu.  I envision this as partitioning it into 4 parts, /boot, swap partition, (both those shared between both linuxes), and a / for each.  What is the best installation procedure and/or order to install all this in?
[10:05] <kickar> hey guys how do i install host, nslookup, dig and so on ?
[10:05] <axeeffect> iwant to change ip
[10:06] <roronoa> zsolt and you might want to check this too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/farsight2
[10:06] <MenZa> Antagonist: Might want to throw in a shared /home directory if you want to share configs and such between them, too.
[10:06] <ubuntu-liveuser> Is there a way in which I can use the apt-get from the live-cd to upgrade the system on the harddrive?
[10:06] <Antagonist> MenZa: Good idea, not something I considered but makes sense.  I'm adverse to sharing something like /usr tho due to linux differences
[10:07] <Garbin> How can I paste image in this channel?
[10:07] <MenZa> Oh yes, don't do that, Antagonist
[10:07] <MenZa> !paste | Garbin
[10:07] <Bacta> join us now and share the software
[10:07] <mara> scusate ubuntu ita?
[10:07] <Bacta> you'll be free hackers, you'll be freeeeeeeeeee
[10:07] <MenZa> !it | mara
[10:07] <MenZa> Bacta: Please stop that.
[10:07] <mara> grazie
[10:07] <Garbin> ubottu, thank you!
[10:07] <Antagonist> Will the alternate install CD allow me to install ubuntu this way?
[10:08] <MenZa> Antagonist: It will do, yes.
[10:08] <axeeffect> @anta ...alternalte is capable of upgarding
[10:08] <Antagonist> Okay, I'll keep looking for documentation... I was fearing that it might suffer from 'user-friendliness'
[10:08] <axeeffect> use a partiton manager
[10:08] <dutchbuntu> ActionParsnip, that was a good tip and easier to realize then you thought. Edit VPN Connection -> IPv4 Setttings -> Routes -> Check 'Use this connection only for resources on its network'. Does exactly what you described.
[10:09] <axeeffect> gparted live cd
[10:09] <axeeffect> resize partiton
[10:09] <Antagonist> axeeffect: Upgrading?  HDD is clean atm
[10:10] <zsolt> make  clean  No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[10:10] <zsolt> this is the error message
[10:10] <axeeffect> ok..i thought u had 9.04
[10:10] <axeeffect> wat is ur ram size
[10:10] <axeeffect> i think u dont need a swap
[10:10] <n2diy> zsolt: "sudo make clean" ?
[10:11] <Antagonist> axeeffect: 4GB
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> dutchbuntu: sweet
[10:11] <axeeffect> try 64 bit buntu then
[10:11] <Antagonist> This is a bioinformatics dev machine, I will need swap space.
[10:11] <zsolt> No rule to make target `clean'
[10:11] <llutz> n2diy: if Makefile hasn't defined "clean" even sudo wouldn't make any difference
[10:12] <axeeffect> u wont be able to use whole of 4gb in 32bit ubuntu
[10:12] <Antagonist> I downloaded the 64-bit one, it didn't see my HDD due to it at some point in its life having belonged to a RAID.  Busy downloading the 64-bit alternate
[10:12] <Antagonist> And yes, planning on 64-bit.  Running 64-bit windows as well.  I have a quad core dammit, gonna use it as it was meant to
[10:12] <llutz> Antagonist: you can use those 4GB when using server-kernel (pae)
[10:12] <nickapalooza> i'm planning to get 2x1tb in raid 5
[10:13] <axeeffect> cpu 64bit?
[10:13] <nickapalooza> yep
[10:13] <Antagonist> llutz: I don't understand?
[10:13] <inivex> nickapalooza, you need 3 disks to do raid 5....?
[10:13] <nickapalooza> are you sure?
[10:13] <inivex> mhm
[10:13] <llutz> Antagonist: if you use 32Bit with server-kernel, you can use all those 4GB. its a PAE kernel
[10:14] <llutz> Antagonist: just install 32bit, change kernel after that
[10:14] <Antagonist> Oh right, well, screw 32-bit tbh
[10:14] <axeeffect> anta..wats the proci
[10:14] <axeeffect> amd?
[10:15] <mesaGL> i'm thinking of giving my users 10.04 lts. will it be ready in time ? and will it work ?
[10:15] <Antagonist> Only problem I've had with 64-bit ever have been old printer drivers.  But then again to be fair, I have problems with those under 32-bit
[10:15] <Antagonist> axeeffect: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600
[10:15] <inivex> Antagonist: i'm jealous.....
[10:15] <axeeffect> ya even my cybershot driver doesn work in 64bit :p
[10:16] <Antagonist> inivex: Its 2 year old tech.
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> mesaGL: its not out yet, and i wouldn't touch it
[10:17] <Antagonist> btw, are there problem nvidia linux drivers for GTX260?  Even if its crappy binary ones
[10:17] <Antagonist> *proper
[10:17] <JediMaster> Antagonist, I'm using GTX260 in ubuntu without any problems using the nvidia binary drivers
[10:18] <Antagonist> JediMaster: Thanks
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Antagonist: you can add the nvidia dev repo and use the 190 driver
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Antagonist: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[10:19] <mesaGL> ActionParsnip: i know it's not out yet. what i'm asking is : will it be usable when it does come out ?
[10:19] <inivex> hey, that's cool, i didn't know nvidia had a repo
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> mesaGL: when its released, absolutely
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Antagonist: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-190-25-beta-drivers-in-ubuntu-jauntyintrepidhardy.html   here is a guide to help you install after adding the repo
[10:20] <mesaGL> absolutely. i see. and does karmic "absolutely" work too ?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> mesaGL: its released so yes, user individual experiences may be different but essentially, yes
[10:21] <llutz> mesaGL: define "absolutely"
[10:21] <Garbin> Could anyone help me? My java-based app has some problem, problem details on http://imagebin.org/72299
[10:22] <whammo> does anybody know how to add audio-rt to pam?
[10:22] <JediMaster> I've got several virtual Ubuntu servers running on Xen hypervisor in a datacenter in the UK, yesterday the entire DC was DDOS in a huge attack and it took everything down for 2.5 hours. I'm trying to figure out how to fail over to a different data center. The only thing I can think of so far is to clone the site/database on to another machine in a different DC, and use it as secondary DNS, then check the site is up with scripts and cha
[10:22] <JediMaster> nge the DNS to point to the second DC should it go down (with low TTL). Any better ideas?
[10:24] <JediMaster> don't want to have a single point of failure, so something like a reverse proxy is out of the question as it is the single point.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> JediMaster: you'd need a gateway to failover between the 2 systems
[10:24] <om26er> i cannot set custom resolution in ubuntu9.10 using nvidia and the driver version 185
[10:24] <JediMaster> ActionParsnip, single point of failure?
[10:24] <kostkon> Garbin, hmm. what jvm do u use?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> JediMaster: could have 2, there will have to be a single point at some point, the IP of the whole thing
[10:25] <Garbin> kostkon, java-6-sum
[10:25] <kostkon> Garbin, aha ok
[10:25] <JediMaster> ActionParsnip, at least with my DNS based idea the only problem is a small downtime with the DNS propagation with the low TTL
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> JediMaster: i guess
[10:26] <laur> A little help please?  I want to install windows on partition where i have installed Ubuntu but the windows tell me the partition is not for windows... and partiton is NTFS what should i do ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> om26er: if you run nvidia-settings   are their resolutions listed?
[10:26] <JediMaster> how do big companies get past this issue, Google  for instance must be attacked all the time but they transparently fail over to different networks without issue (I'm sure mega$$$ helps)
[10:27] <kostkon> Garbin, font prob maybe? do you have the "sun-java-6-fonts" installed?
[10:27] <kostkon> !info sun-java-6-fonts
[10:27] <om26er> ActionParsnip, 1280*1024 is not availble there but 1378*768 is available. my lcd is 5:4
[10:27] <Garbin> I check it now
[10:27] <laur> is necessary to format the entire HDD ?
[10:27] <kostkon> oh right. not in karmic. hmm
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> om26er: ok then close the app and run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[10:27] <kostkon> !info sun-java6-fonts
[10:28] <kostkon> yeah
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> om26er: set the resolution to something and click, write settings to X config file
[10:28] <om26er> ActionParsnip, ok
[10:28] <JediMaster> laur, you could delete the NTFS partition then try getting windows to setup a new partition there
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you can then run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and edit te res to what you wish
[10:28] <laur> yah i try this but the win installer tell me is not a valid windows partition...
[10:28] <laur> and i formated with windows in install mode
[10:29] <fabietto^> Hi everybody! is there any possibility for make the scroll of a page (for example in firefox) with the double click on the touch pad?
[10:30] <Garbin> kostkon, I've installed it just now, but the problem still here.
[10:30] <kostkon> Garbin, :(
[10:31] <Garbin> wait, I do a double check for the jvm version.
[10:31] <om26er> ActionParsnip, ok i set it to 1280*1024 in the xorg.conf and then rebooted but still no change
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> om26er: did you change the xorg.conf file before rebooting?
[10:31] <laur> i think i will delete all partiton.... :|
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> om26er: hmm weird
[10:31] <om26er> ActionParsnip, yes i did
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> om26er: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file
[10:32] <zsolt> my problem solved with an svn repo
[10:32] <Garbin> My /usr/lib/jvm/default-java link to java-6-openjdk
[10:32] <zsolt> thank you so much
[10:32] <laur> oke let's try another problem..
[10:32] <kostkon> Garbin, aha
[10:32] <Garbin> sorry~!
[10:32] <laur> with the MKV video file.. (hd movies)
[10:32] <kostkon> Garbin, you can run the java update alternatives cmd if oyu want
[10:33] <kostkon> Garbin, to have the sun java as the default jvm
[10:33] <Skunk8709> I have a question
[10:33] <laur> it's blank window (black) and the sound running..
[10:33] <laur> yah me 2
[10:33] <kostkon> !ask ! Skunk8709
[10:33] <kostkon> !ask | Skunk8709
[10:33] <Garbin> how can I do? remove the openjdk?
[10:34] <kostkon> Garbin, no, w8
[10:34] <jongie> Garbin: sudo apt-get --purge remove open-jdk
[10:34] <zsolt> is it possible to restore my Os to original?
[10:34] <Garbin> ok
[10:34] <kostkon> Garbin, give this in a terminal:  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[10:34] <kostkon> Garbin, so simple
[10:34] <laur> how install nvidia 190 driver ? i have 185.18.36
[10:34] <Skunk8709> Is it possible to run Ubuntu 9.04 on my Dell Studio One 19 Desktop and still retain the touchscreen functions?
[10:34] <Garbin> kostkon, OK
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> laur: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[10:35] <jongie> hi, im looking for internet cafe management software, which one would you recommend?
[10:35] <laur> tnx ActionParsnip
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Skunk8709: sure as long as you can configure it the same
[10:35] <ha1331> Skunk8709: I got touch screen working on my hp laptop.
[10:35] <Antagonist> jongie: Point of sale software?
[10:35] <hugo_> My login window is wrong resolution. I tried startupmanager but to no avail. Where can I manually edit the resolution. I'm using 9.10
[10:36] <Garbin> kostkon, cant't found the package open-jdk
[10:36] <kostkon> Garbin, eh?
[10:36] <Skunk8709> I do have the drivers disk I believe but this microsoft shovel crap of a disk isn't labeled as the actual touchscreen drivers
[10:36] <Fenrir_> h
[10:36] <Fenrir_> hi
[10:36] <kostkon> Garbin, what do you mean? is this an error msg?
[10:36] <Garbin> yes
[10:36] <hugo_> hi
[10:36] <jongie> Antagonist: no, a management software that is used to manage workstations in your cafe, that keeps track of your computer usage, lock workstations etc..
[10:36] <Garbin> kostkon, is that package names "openjdk-6-jre"?
[10:37] <kostkon> Garbin, what are you trying to do?
[10:37] <Skunk8709> Action Parsnip: I do have the drivers disk I believe but this microsoft shovel crap of a disk isn't labeled as the actual touchscreen drivers
[10:37] <Antagonist> jongie: Ah, missed the critical internet part in internet cafe :P Sorry, dunno
[10:37] <Garbin> I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get --purge remove open-jdk"
[10:37] <Garbin> kostkon,  I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get --purge remove open-jdk"
[10:37] <kostkon> Garbin, you don;t need to
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Skunk8709: i suggest you run the liveCD and experimet, you should also websearch for guides with regard to your lappy model, see if its supported
[10:37] <kostkon> Garbin, just run the above cmd i gave you
[10:37] <Fenrir_> How do I remove a ppp connection like ppp0, ppp1, ppp2 ...?
[10:37] <kostkon> Garbin, if you want to use the sun jvm
[10:38] <Skunk8709> ActionParsnip: It's a desktop not a laptop
[10:38] <Garbin> OK, I try it.
[10:38] <little_wu0> ....
[10:38] <ricree> I'm having sound sound issues since the upgrade to 9.10.  Certain programs such as rhythmbox have very slow and choppy sound, while others such as VLC work absolutely fine.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[10:38] <Skunk8709> Action Parsnip: I have tried many searches for my particular and came up empty handed
[10:39] <Skunk8709> Problem*
[10:39] <laur> ActionParsnip why i can't view MKV video file ? the screen is black and sound is running... PC config: 2 GB ram ddr2 | Core 2 Duo 3.0 GHZ | Nvidia GForece 7300/7500 GS
[10:39] <l43a2> use VLC
[10:39] <l43a2> it should play fine in that
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Skunk8709: then websearch the make/model of the device you are using
[10:40] <laur> @ same with SMpalyer | VLC | MPlayer
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> laur: codecs?
[10:40] <laur> wich codecs ?
[10:40] <kostkon> ricree, er, which apps exactly?
[10:40] <Garbin> kostkon, thank you very much, the problem has gone!!!!
[10:41] <kostkon> ricree, all of them, except vlc?
[10:41] <kostkon> Garbin, :)
[10:41] <laur> which*
[10:41] <laur> N/A
[10:41] <laur> i think...
[10:41] <Garbin> thank you again:)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | laur
[10:41] <ricree> kostkon: so far, I've noticed the problem with rhythmbox, banshee, and pidgin.  Totem, VLC, and flash video sound all seem to work fine
[10:41] <kostkon> ricree, :/
[10:41] <kostkon> ricree, ok. hmm
[10:41] <ricree> kostkon:   Also, mp3s work fine on VLC, so I don't think it's a codec issue
[10:41] <kostkon> ricree, it's not, yeah
[10:41] <wers> how do i make evolution download read messages? I have a couple of messages in my corporate email. the thing is, i cant access them on evolution because they're marked as read on outlook
[10:42] <kostkon> ricree, hmm
[10:42] <Fenrir_> I have problems with my pppoe connection in ubuntu 9.10
[10:42] <kostkon> ricree, it's an upgrade, so
[10:42] <ricree> kostkon:  My best guess was a library issue somewhere since it's limited to certain programs, but I'm not sure how to track it down past that
[10:42] <kostkon> ricree, first thing you could try is to delete the .pulse folder in your home, if there is one, then logout and login again
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> ricree: killall pulseaudio; rm -rf ~/.pulse*    then reboot
[10:44] <laur> oke how install bin files ?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> laur: chmod +x file; ./file
[10:44] <SquarePi> somthing is wrong with Ubuntu Karmic. I can play movies, including full HD movies, on windows smoothly but not on Ubuntu. :-(
[10:44] <simulation> hello guys
[10:45] <simulation> how can i use $_GET variables in theme :S
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> SquarePi: have you ran: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:45] <simulation> i cant access the $_GET
[10:45] <ricree> I deleted the .pulse folder and logged out and in.  No difference
[10:45] <kostkon> ricree, hmm ok
[10:45] <simulation> sorry wrong chan :)
[10:45] <SquarePi> ActionParsnip, no, I am playing my videos using vlc but those are just codecs
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> SquarePi: yes, you will need codecs to play certain files
[10:46] <kostkon> ricree, ah, it could be a gstreamer related prob
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> SquarePi: if you don't have codecs, you cant play the file
[10:46] <SquarePi> ActionParsnip, if I don't have the codecs, they won't play at all. since I can play them I have the codecs
[10:46] <ricree> kostkon:  any suggestions on how to start checking whether it is?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> SquarePi: have you installed and configured video drivers?
[10:47] <RiotingPacifist> which lame -V setting is about 96kbs? or where can i look up this sort of data, it's not in the man
[10:47] <SquarePi> ActionParsnip, yes, nvidia driver
[10:47] <kostkon> ricree, first of all, try going to pidgin's sound prefs and check which driver is selected.
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> SquarePi: is it the same in other media players, like mplayer?
[10:47] <SquarePi> haven't tried mplayer yet
[10:48] <ricree> kostkon: automatic
[10:48] <kostkon> ricree, what other options do you have?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> SquarePi: you could also try adding the medibuntu repo and installing w32codecs (or w64codecs if you re using 64bit ubuntu)
[10:48] <Andorin> I'm trying to manually mount my flash drive because Ubuntu doesn't want to auto-mount it anymore... when I type "sudo mount /dev/sdf /mount/point" it tells me I have to specify a file system type. What's the syntax?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> SquarePi: may be an issue with vlc, if it works in other players then its a vlc issue
[10:48] <ricree> kostkon: ESD, ALSA, Command
[10:49] <kostkon> ricree, ok. change it to alsa
[10:50] <kostkon> packages.ubuntu.com is down :S
[10:50] <ricree> kostkon:  Hmm... it seems to be working now
[10:50] <kostkon> ricree, pidgin's sound?
[10:50] <ricree> kostkon: pidgin, that is
[10:50] <Andorin> Guys, I know that the system is recognizing it as a flash drive because both dmesg and lsusb list the name of the flash drive. I just can't browse or modify the files. I assume this is a mount problem?
[10:51] <kostkon> ricree, ok
[10:51] <kostkon> ricree, now for the rest
[10:51] <ricree> kostkon:  one sec, I'm going to close it and reopen
[10:51] <kostkon> ricree, ok
[10:51] <ricree> kostkon: since that was the only sound I know for sure was bugged before
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: can you see the partition in the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[10:51] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[10:52] <opossum_oisif> hi, how do I install aptana on ubuntu?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: and if you run: mount      can you see the partition mounted?
[10:52] <disappearedng> any tools to visualize xml data in the command line?
[10:52] <ricree> Ok, yeah, pidgin sound is working now
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> !info aptana
[10:52] <stimpie> Iam looking for panel or script to easily confure domains on apache2+exim, could somebody recommend something simple?
[10:53] <X3> hello boys girls and undecided
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> opossum_oisif: you could find a PPA for it
[10:53] <X3> actionParsnip hi just the man
[10:53] <opossum_oisif> ActionParsnip, what is a PPA?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !ppa  | opossum_oisif
[10:53] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: No, I don't see it in the list.
[10:53] <X3> google ppa searc
[10:53] <opossum_oisif> ActionParsnip, hum thx a lot!
[10:53] <X3> 8search
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: then you will need to mount it manually
[10:54] <Andorin> Hoo boy.
[10:54] <ricree> kostkon:  pidgin sound works when set to ALSA
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !mount |  Andorin
[10:54] <kostkon> ricree, :)
[10:55] <ricree> kostkon:  and now to see about getting that for the media players
[10:55] <kostkon> ricree, yeah
[10:55] <kostkon> ricree, now, could you press alt+f2
[10:55] <X3> ActionParsnip: I have a grub2 upgrade from legacy it boot works fine except is I issue update-grub I get a silly error : not foundt/grub: 7:
[10:55] <kostkon> ricree, and give: gstreamer-properties
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> X3: not sure, ask the channel
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | x3
[10:56] <kostkon> ricree, ah, just wanted to ask, you are running pulse, right?
[10:56] <X3> erm I have done that thx
[10:56] <X3> theres no mention of that error anywhere
[10:56] <kostkon> ricree, i am askign in case that you have removed for some reason
[10:56] <kostkon> removed it*
[10:56] <aaron11> Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot
[10:57] <kostkon> ricree, did the gst properties window open?
[10:57] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Alright. I'm looking at the instructions, and trying them. When I run "sudo mount /device/location /mount/point" I get an error: it wants me to specify a filetype.
[10:57] <X3> Anyone pls I have a grub2 upgrade from legacy it boot ok, works fine except is I issue update-grub I get a silly error : not foundt/grub: 7:
[10:57] <ricree> kostkon: yeah, but it didn't work for me in 9.04, so my guess is that this is some holdover from getting sound to work then
[10:57] <ricree> kostkon: yeah
[10:57] <X3> theres no such error documented
[10:57] <kostkon> ricree, w8. you removed it?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: you need to make a new folder to mount to: sudo mkdir /media/usb     for example
[10:58] <ricree> kostkon:   I didn't remove it, but I set everything to use OSS
[10:58] <aaron11> Does http://pysqlite.org/ exist?
[10:58] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Done.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: you then mount using: sudo mount /dev/partition_name /media/usb -o uid=1000    and you'll be ok. change partition_name to whatever the partition is named (e.g.  /dev/sdb1)
[10:58] <Andorin> Oh, gee, another channel troll.
[10:58] <kostkon> ricree, ah. intereting then. it could be that the option to use oss for gst apps on 9.04 remained also on 9.10
[10:58] <PhantomLink> !ops Jenelle is sending spam and viruses
[10:59] <ronald__> hello there!what kind of linux that match for gateway M520? because i use ubuntu the problem is they have no audio sound.,
[10:59] <PhantomLink> oh heh nice
[10:59] <opossum_oisif> ActionParsnip, how and where do I browse ppa?
[10:59] <chelz> hat was a pretty fast kline
[10:59] <kostkon> ricree, thus, alt+f2, give: gstreamer-properties and then in the audio tab
[10:59] <PhantomLink> ya
[10:59] <user01> can s.o. kick her?
[10:59] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: I still get the "you must specify the filesystem type" message.
[10:59] <X3> Anyone pls I have a grub2 works ok I get this on command update-grub : not foundt/grub: 7:
[10:59] <aaron11> Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ronald__: then run: sudo lshw -C sound   and websearch for guides to setup your sound
[10:59] <ricree> kostkon: the plugin was set to oss in the selector.  I've switched it over to pulseaudio now
[10:59] <kostkon> ricree, in the default output, change the plugin to alsa or pulse. whichever is available
[10:59] <kostkon> ricree, nice
[10:59] <kostkon> ricree, now you should be fine
[10:59] <chelz> what's the hotkey to open a terminal in karmic?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ronald__: there is no specific linux for the vast array of branded systems, it not feasible
[10:59] <ricree> kostkon:  sound still seems choppy.  Will this need a reboot or new login to work?
[10:59] <kostkon> ricree, test your apps now
[11:00] <kostkon> ricree, eh, you could logout and login
[11:00] <PhantomLink> jenelle was trying to send me porn
[11:00] <aaron11> chelz: There is none
[11:00] <kostkon> ricree, also, what is selected for defauilt input?
[11:00] <X3> chelz: google or add it to panel
[11:00] <ricree> kostkon:  don't recall, but I also set it to pulseaudio
[11:00] <aaron11> PhantomLink: He send somthing about mother spanking a kid
[11:00] <PhantomLink> probably just virus filled video files, but heh we use linux
[11:00] <chelz> dang, alt+t was great in 8.10
[11:00] <DJones> PhantomLink: Its a spammer thats been dealt with by freenode staff
[11:00] <eviltoaster_3e> PhantomLink, me 2 :S
[11:01] <m1dlg> why has this irc become the target for this spam/hack attack lately? none of the other ones i'm on is
[11:01] <kostkon> ricree, logout and login. if again you have choppy sound, run the gst properties again and set
[11:01] <kostkon> :S
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> m1dlg: freenode is the largest irc network available
[11:01] <aaron11> Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot
[11:01] <m1dlg> oh, logical
[11:01] <PhantomLink> his/her stupid windows virus can't touch us
[11:01]  * PhantomLink plays mc hammer - can't touch this XD
[11:01] <eviltoaster_3e> and all files come from this channels users, tell me why :P
[11:01] <m1dlg> I thought that too :)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> PhantomLink: can with me right now (xp work lappy)
[11:02] <PhantomLink> ActionParsnip:  dirty laptop
[11:02] <ronald__> ActionParsnip: so wht can i do now?
[11:02] <aaron11> !ot | PhantomLink
[11:02] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Did you see my last message?
[11:02] <PhantomLink> clean it up !
[11:02] <[JackD]> what is it with people trying to send files in this room ?
[11:02] <PhantomLink> yeah, sorry, got carried away
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> PhantomLink: our bespoke products wont run on anything else, linux is worthless to me in this instance
[11:02] <PhantomLink> aww
[11:03] <eviltoaster_3e> best i quit this channel, dont even use ubuntu ^^
[11:03] <ohnoes> ActionParsnip: it appears that my whole system is in an inconsitent state. Are you sure that the alternate installer will overwrite all the base libs and programs?
[11:03] <PhantomLink> you should use a windoze VM
[11:03] <PhantomLink> in fullscreen mode
[11:03] <PhantomLink> then they won't know XD
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> PhantomLink: so if i ran linux i wouldnt be able to work would I.
[11:03] <aaron11> PhantomLink: Ose offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> PhantomLink: then why bother running 2 OSes when I can use just one and get the same thing
[11:04] <PhantomLink> ActionParsnip:  not sure, just spouted a random idea there :D
[11:04] <aaron11> Hello Is there a way to get PySQlite? I realy need it so that I can setup supybot
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> its massively flawed
[11:04] <ohnoes> User mahaju spams me:
[11:04] <simplexio> ohnoes: do you want reisntall all packages ?
[11:04] <siliconmeadow> how do I enable autocomplete in my terminal window, e.g. type '*z' and it files in at somefile.tgz (provided somefile.tgz is the only file in the directory ending in z)?
[11:05] <skfet> use tab?
[11:05] <PhantomLink> question:  is this channel where the ubermassive BOUNCEATTACK.TXT dcc flood came from?  (just curious)  ( i had to kill xchat to get it to go away )
[11:05] <X3> aaron11 type aptitude and when it loads do / andsearch
[11:05] <ohnoes> simplexio: I want a system that gives me a root shell with networking + a working package database,
[11:05] <X3> wrong window :/
[11:05] <aaron11> X3: Will sudo apt-get install pysqlite work?
[11:05] <Andorin> Argh...
[11:05] <siliconmeadow> skfet: sorry - yes I meant to say - i can't get the tab to work to do that
[11:05] <Will123456> hey guys. quick question: for a 1.6 ghz single core AMD XP with a gig of DDR RAM, is it worth going to xubuntu just for a quick boost of speed? it's fine running ubuntu but can struggle with some websites, esp. if there's quite a few tabs up. (i've read that xubuntu is quicker than ubuntu but actually not THAT much quicker, not as much as they make out anyway)
[11:05] <ohnoes> simplexio: I type slowly, because of another keyboard layout.
[11:06] <X3> aaron11 if the rpos exit yes
[11:06] <aaron11> ok
[11:06] <X3> aaron11 if the repos exist yes
[11:06] <carverm> My Jaunty installation broke after a recent package update. Greeter application is crashing now. Is this best channel to try for help?
[11:06] <SquarePi> Will123456, stick with Ubuntu
[11:06] <GNU\colossus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8346752#post8346752 - help please (definitely takes some experience with HAL and Xorg)
[11:06] <ricree> kostkon:  no change after a reboot
[11:06] <kostkon> Will123456, i'm sure the slowness it flash related
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: xubuntu will be more responsive but i've ran a full kde system on a similar rig
[11:07] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Flash drive still will not mount.......
[11:07] <X3> anyone know about this grub2 error : not foundt/grub: 7:
[11:07] <kostkon> ricree, you didn't have to reboot. but anyway, run again the gst properties app and change the default output from pulse to alsa
[11:07] <simplexio> ohnoes: check msg
[11:07]  * PhantomLink hugs ActionParsnip - hopefully work will be over soon so you can get back into the wonderful world of linux
[11:07] <X3> theres no documentation on that
[11:07] <ricree> kostkon:  tried that as well already
[11:07] <kostkon> ricree, same?
[11:08] <PhantomLink> ;)
[11:08] <ricree> kostkon:  yeah
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: thats the sort of command you need, if its moaing about type then rerun the fdisk command, if its ntfs formatted then add: -t ntfs-3g     if its FAT based then use: -t vfat
[11:08] <PhantomLink> anywho...i'll be in ot
[11:08] <kostkon> ricree, could you check that you have the gstreamer-pulseaudio-something package?
[11:08] <mahaju> im new to linux
[11:08] <kostkon> !info gstreamer-pulseaudio
[11:08] <mahaju> i need to learn how to use it
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> PhantomLink: both are fine for me, i can do what i do in either OS. I only web browse and chat so I use linux as its free
[11:08] <kostkon> :?
[11:08] <mahaju> could any one please help me out?
[11:09] <ricree> !info gstreamer0.10-pusleaudio
[11:09] <Will123456> kostkon: yeah, it is. adblock plus for FF improves things greatly.
[11:09] <ricree> odd, showing up in synaptic
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: so the command would be: sudo mount /dev/partition_name -t vfat /media/usb -o uid=1000
[11:09] <ricree> kostkon:  but yeah, it's installed
[11:09] <kostkon> Will123456, indeed
[11:09] <carverm> Mahaju - you might start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/getting-started.html
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: for example, you'll need to change the partition_name and type if its not vfat
[11:10] <Will123456> ActionParsnip: thanks, i guess i may as well stick with ubuntu then (it's for my mum and she's more familiar with gnome) :)
[11:10] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Right, right... trying it now.
[11:10] <kostkon> ricree, eh, which device is selected in gst properties in default output
[11:10] <ricree> kostkon:  the odd thing is, when I hit the test in gstreamer properties and OSS is selected, it sounds just like my problem.  But both ALSA and PulseAudio work fine
[11:10] <carverm> Mahaju - sorry, try this link instead https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/newtoubuntu/C/index.html
[11:10] <ricree> kostkon:   So it's like it's ignoring the gstreamer-properties and going with OSS anyways
[11:10] <kostkon> ricree, but your apps still sound choppy
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: cool, if she likes it then stick with it, user interface familiarity an all
[11:11] <kostkon> ricree, then, hmm
[11:11] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: ARGHH! It's still rejecting the command.
[11:11] <kostkon> ricree, yeah, it could be
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: you get the idea, just tweak and tweak until its good, there are lots of guides online
[11:11] <X3> well thx for no help at all dont have a clew why this channel exists the questions asked mostly here are n00bish when someone asks a real question noone knows sod all
[11:11] <kostkon> ricree, try this, just to make sure. w8
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: if you use http://pastebin.com   to give the output of: sudo fdisk -l   I can give te command
[11:11] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: k
[11:12] <carverm> The greeter application is crashing in my Jaunty installation after I allowed Update Manager to update packages recently. I've done lots of web searching to no avail. Can anyone assist? : )
[11:12] <Will123456> X3: what was your question?
[11:12] <Will123456> oh
[11:12] <Will123456> he's gone
[11:12] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d67c3c9fc
[11:12] <kostkon> ricree, eh, do you have anything in .config/totem?
[11:13] <ricree> kostkon:  no
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: ok the partition is /dev/sdf1
[11:13] <ricree> kostkon: wait, nm.  was in the wrong folder
[11:13] <ricree> kostkon: there's a state.ini
[11:14] <kostkon> ricree, ok. check in .gnome2
[11:14] <kostkon> ricree, do you have a totem_config file?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/usb -t vfat -o uid=1000
[11:14] <kostkon> ricree, or a totem file
[11:14] <ricree> kostkon:  totem's one of the programs that works.  Would it likely make a difference?
[11:14] <kostkon> ricree, ah, totem works
[11:14] <mahaju> Could anybody please helpme?
[11:14] <kostkon> ricree, tell me again the ones that don't work
[11:15] <chelz> mahaju: whatcha need?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: this has a vfat guide too: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/
[11:15] <ricree> kostkon: rhythmbox and banshee are the only two I can confirm at the moment. Also, banshee wasn't installed until the issues cropped up with rhythmbox, so I don't see it being a config issue with that program
[11:16] <kostkon> ricree, ok
[11:16] <ricree> kostkon:  My guess is that I've screwed up the config for gstreamer somehow, but I'm not sure how
[11:16] <kostkon> ricree, both are gstreamer apps, yeah
[11:16] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Now take a look at this http://pastebin.com/d7eb3f949
[11:16] <kostkon> ricree, but totem is a gst app too
[11:16] <kostkon> ricree, hmm
[11:17] <carverm> The greeter application is crashing in my Jaunty installation after I allowed Update Manager to update packages recently. I've done lots of web searching to troubleshoot, but gnome desktop is hosed. Can anyone assist? : )
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: ok has this stick been in a windows sstem before putting it in your linux system?
[11:17] <kostkon> ricree, eh, what device is selected in gst properties, in the default output section
[11:17] <ricree> kostkon:  like I said before,  it's almost like those apps are ignoring the settings from gstreamer-properties.  I'm not sure what would cause that
[11:17] <ricree> kostkon: one sec
[11:18] <kostkon> ricree, there should be a drop down below the plugin one
[11:18] <ricree> kostkon: default at the moment
[11:18] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Yes, but not for a while now. Um, if it helps, I was experimenting with TrueCrypt in order to get the hang of it using this flash drive... so that might have something to do with why I can't mount it?
[11:18] <kostkon> ricree, aha. what other options are availablwe to selet?
[11:18] <ricree> kostkon: STAC92xx Analog and STAC92xx Digital are the other options
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: did you just rip the device out of the system or did you use the saftely remove hardware function in windows?
[11:18] <ricree> kostkon:  and NVIDIA HDMI
[11:18] <kostkon> ricree, hmm. then, select the analog one
[11:18] <Andorin> Oh my God. >_<
[11:19] <ronald__> how to unlock this /var/lib/dpkg/lock??
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: ?
[11:19] <cookie_> hi everybody
[11:19] <kostkon> ricree, and test your apps again
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> ronald__: close synaptic
[11:19] <ricree> kostkon:  not at first.  Going to try relogging
[11:19] <ronald__> how i close the synaptic?
[11:19] <cankoy> carverm: can you log in from console?
[11:19] <carverm> Cankoy - yes I can
[11:19] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: I'm really sorry for wasting your time. This WAS a TrueCrypt thing- if I have the drive formatted the way I do then I have to mount it myself with TrueCrypt. I just got it to work. At least now I know more about mount..... again, sorry for the time waste.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ronald__: its a window on the desktop, like gedit or openoffice
[11:20] <cookie_> how to change vdi type form fixed-size image to dynamically expanding image ?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: you got the gold, thats all that matters:)
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: you also learned the mount command some which is good, many users can't
[11:20] <cankoy> carverm: tried any apt-get commands?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ronald__: only 1 app can access the packages at once
[11:21] <carverm> cankoy: I've tried apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. One sec and I'll type error I got when running update
[11:21] <ricree> kostkon: no change
[11:21] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Yeah, it doesn't seem too difficult in principle... this drive just magically wouldn't mount. Which, for TrueCrypt's purposes, is actually rather nice. Thanks for your help.
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ronald__: if synaptic isnt running and you are not installing any packages then you can run this:
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | ronald__
[11:21] <kostkon> ricree, :/
[11:21] <Gab_> hi
[11:21] <cankoy> carverm: first do an 'apt-get clean' before them
[11:21] <carverm> cankoy: ok, sec
[11:21] <Acegi> Hi, quick question. What command do I use to detect what wireless module is in use?
[11:21] <kostkon> ricree, you could try reinstalling gst
[11:21] <conb123> How do i get my bottom window bar back after i removed it to make way for awn?
[11:22] <cookie_> conb123,  you have to add it manually
[11:22] <conb123> cookie_: Oh man that's annoying
[11:22] <carverm> cankoy: did apt-get clean, then apt-get update. no problems there. when running apt-get upgrade it wants to upgrade some, I select "y" and I get an error when trying to upgrade totem-common
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> conb123: right click desktop -> add panel
[11:22] <Gab_> programs are erased to clear the wine?
[11:23] <kostkon> ricree, but it's strange yeah. do you have a 4th gst app you could test? :D
[11:23] <ricree> kostkon: I'll give that a try
[11:23] <conb123> Actionparsnip: Yeah got it just thought i could maybe do something like dpkg-reconfigure
[11:23] <ricree> kostkon: can you think of any off the top of your head?
[11:23] <Irakirashia> How do I set the common home folder permissions for my account?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> conb123: nar, much simpler
[11:23] <kostkon> ricree, :(
[11:23] <cankoy> carverm: can you pastebin please? (as many lines as possible)
[11:23] <carverm> cankoy: "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/totem-common_2.26.1-0ubuntu5.1_all.deb
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Irakirashia: cd /home; ls -la ./$USER
[11:23] <cookie_> anyone know how to change VDI disk type in VirtualBox?
[11:24] <ricree> kostkon: anyways, reinstalling gstreamer right now, maybe that will help
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> cookie_: have you asked in #vbox ?
[11:24] <carverm> cankoy: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpks returned an error code (1)"
[11:24] <kostkon> ricree, yeah
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> carverm: if you use http://pastebin   you can give the whole output
[11:24] <cookie_> o thanks, i don't know, that this channel exist
[11:24] <Irakirashia> ActionParsnip I want to set, not to see :P
[11:24] <MenZa> ActionParsnip: Your link sorta broke.
[11:24] <Irakirashia> ActionParsnip I just forgot the correct number to do the chmod -R
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Irakirashia: do you want to change the owner?
[11:25] <emergion> ss
[11:25] <Irakirashia> ActionParsnip Uhm, maybe changing the owner will do, thanks, I'll do it
[11:25] <carverm> ActionParsnip: I'm in this chat session on another comp. Not sure how to use pastebin from the command line of the broken ubuntu box?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Irakirashia: theres no usiversal as some files may need to be executable, others may not
[11:25] <Irakirashia> ActionParsnip I just mod +x any executable ween needed
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Irakirashia: cd /home; sudo chown $USER:$USER ./$USER
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> oops
[11:26] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Right so what exactly do i need on the bar again, window list, show desktop button, that's it isn't it?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Irakirashia:  cd /home; sudo chown -R$USER:$USER ./$USER
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> add a space between -R and chown
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> and $USER
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Irakirashia:  cd /home; sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ./$USER     is what you need
[11:27] <Irakirashia> Thanks ActionParsnip ;)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Irakirashia: if you use a recursive chmod you may remove the executable permissions where it is needed, the owner will have the right access for writability
[11:28] <Irakirashia> I know ActionParsnip, don't worry, I just woke up and forgot that chown existed :P
[11:28] <administrator_> 7list
[11:28] <cookie_> aghr on #vbox nobody is active, so i ask again: How to change VDI type form fixed-size image to dynamically expanding image?
[11:29] <Werztron> Hi
[11:29] <aaron11> !help
[11:29] <[[Rx-BOT]]> aaron11: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[11:30] <aaron11> What the hell!
[11:30] <cookie_> ?
[11:30] <aaron11> !help
[11:30] <[[Rx-BOT]]> aaron11: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[11:30] <m_tadeu> hi everyone.....how can I get the supported resolutions for my nvidia card/driver?
[11:30] <llutz> cookie_: it seems you cannot, maybe look at this http://forum.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23566
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[11:31] <cookie_> llutz, thanks, I'll see this
[11:31] <rashed2020> What is this [[Rx-BOT]] thing?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> not seen it before
[11:31] <aaron11> :P looks like a bot
[11:31] <llutz> may one of the ops kick that f... bot please?
[11:31] <aaron11> !ops
[11:31] <[[Rx-BOT]]> aaron11: Error: "ops" is not a valid command.
[11:32] <rashed2020> Really? That's an emergency?
[11:32] <aaron11> [[Rx-BOT]]: Is a problem
[11:32] <[[Rx-BOT]]> aaron11: Error: "Is" is not a valid command.
[11:32] <kostkon> rashed2020, it's not?
[11:32] <rashed2020> I wouldn't even call this urgent.
[11:32] <cankoy> cookie_: there's no direct way, but you can clone it using VBoxManage clonehd ...
[11:32] <aaron11> kick please
[11:33] <cookie_> cankoy, again?? oh god, i convert it from .raw
[11:33] <djdarkman> hello, can someone tell me how can I disable this harddrive naging servirce completely?
[11:34] <carverm> cankoy: Since my ubuntu box is at the command line and this chat is from another comp, what is the best way to get you the info you need to assist?
[11:34] <cankoy> cookie_: there's no in-place fixed<->dynamic conversion. You need to clone it using the command I specified, see vbox manual for details.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> djdarkman: not aware of such a service
[11:35] <djdarkman> it's something called gdu-notification
[11:35] <djdarkman> it always tells that the harddrive is failing
[11:36] <cookie_> cankoy, yes i use it, but i'm bit strange about this
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> djdarkman: have you fsck'd the drive. Maybe a test with the manufacturers testing tool will clear it up
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> djdarkman: seems to be a daemon process, you could disable it
[11:36] <conb123> Ohhhh what is that command in ubuntu for sending messages to other users on the network?
[11:36] <cankoy> carverm: the first error you posted implies you did not run 'apt-get clean'
[11:37] <carverm> cankoy: I did. Happy to run it again
[11:37] <cankoy> carverm: then update, followed by upgrade
[11:38] <carverm> cankoy: apt-get clean has been run (just now). apt-get update runs fine also
[11:38] <carverm> cankoy: apt-get upgrade indicates totem-common will be upgraded. When I accept with "y" is when it tries to upgrade and generates the error
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> conb123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288042    is like net send
[11:38] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, the same thing happens
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: does aboutplugins say its 10.1 ?
[11:39] <redliner> i've installed UNR but button of wireless card isn't working in a right way
[11:39] <cankoy> carverm: then manually remove that file under /var/cache/apt/... and try upgrade  again
[11:39] <Acegi> I have a list of modprobe modules but I'm not sure which one is my wireless network
[11:39] <Acegi> How do I find out?
[11:39] <redliner> wireless card - atheros
[11:40] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, yes but dpkg -l | grep flash doesn't
[11:40] <carverm> cankoy: trying it now
[11:40] <carverm> cankoy: it downloads the totem-common file, but unfortunately generates the same errors again:
[11:40] <Acegi> It's not atheros
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: good, and is the swf stuff out too?
[11:40] <carverm> cankoy: gdbm fatal: read error
[11:41] <carverm> cankoy: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/totem-common_2.26.1-0ubuntu5.1_all.deb
[11:41] <carverm> cankoy: E: Sub-process /us/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> carverm: use pastebin for multiple lines like that
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !paste | carverm
[11:42] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, oh, I get this at the end of about:plugins
[11:42] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, Shockwave Flash
[11:42] <suigeneris>     Dosya adı: libflashplayer.so
[11:42] <suigeneris>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[11:42] <carverm> ActionParsnip: I'm in this chat on a windoze box. The ubuntu box is at command line. Not sure how to get in chat from command line on the ubuntu box to use pastebin?
[11:42] <suigeneris> !pastebinit | carverm
[11:43] <toffan> hi all
[11:43] <Ome> 'lo
[11:43] <toffan> I need some help for WINE
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> carverm: sure: copy the text to a file then run: pastebinit file
[11:44] <ricree> kostkon:  reinstalling gstreamer did no good.  Also tried removing and reinstalling the programs and that also did nothing
[11:44] <toffan> I have one dotnet application and need to run in ubuntu 9.10
[11:44] <kostkon> ricree, :/
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> carverm: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/88628    use that but translate it to totem
[11:44] <carverm> ActionParsnip: working on getting pastebinit installed on the ubuntu box
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: you still have the old version some place
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> carverm: get totem nailed first
[11:45] <kostkon> ricree, eh, do you have all the gst codecs packages installed?
[11:45] <toffan> is there anyone who can help me on dotnet or WINE?
[11:45] <carverm> ActionParsnip: Thank you for the link. I'll read through that to see if I can get this totem problem whacked.
[11:45] <ricree> kostkon: I think I only have whatever comes with ubuntu-restricted-extras, but I'm not sure
[11:45] <mehdus> hey how are you
[11:45] <dvrcoder> hi all, question: where do i change the screen settings for the console? i want my 80x25 back
[11:46] <mehdus> sorry i dont now
[11:46] <kostkon> ricree, you could check which gst packages are installed
[11:46] <toffan> anyone can help me on WINE topic?
[11:46] <kostkon> ricree, in synaptic
[11:47] <kostkon> ricree, could you also try something else
[11:47] <Spixx> toffan: Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine
[11:47] <infidel2> how can i tell which version of qt i have?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> carverm: it basically makes your system forget it has totem installed ;)
[11:47] <kostkon> ricree, open rhythm, put something playing and then start lowering the volume gradually
[11:47] <toffan> i have installed but still cant able to run the app
[11:47] <carverm> ActionParsnip: That would be a good thing
[11:47] <Spixx> toffan: what errors do you get?
[11:47] <kostkon> ricree, i mean the volume slider in rhythm
[11:47] <rsk> toffan ask the qeustion
[11:48] <toffan> Spixx i can not run, no error
[11:48] <kostkon> ricree, it;s on the right, in the taskbar
[11:48] <rsk> er
[11:48] <Spixx> toffan: what type of "app" is it?
[11:48] <rsk> toffan how does it not run? what app is it? what wine version? run wine --version
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> carverm: this is one of the weaknesses in package based systems, if you get them stuck you can't install /  remove anything til you fix it
[11:49] <ricree> kostkon:  crashes the program
[11:49] <Spixx> Anyone who knows a bit of syslog-ng? I have an installation that wont logg any remote hosts anymore?
[11:49] <kostkon> ricree, !!
[11:49] <toffan> http://www.sharekhan.com/tradetiger/setupnew.html
[11:49] <toffan> this is the url
[11:49] <toffan> Spixx: you can see this her
[11:49] <toffan> here*
[11:49] <carverm> ActionParsnip: And all this started because I let Update Manager upgrade the packages it was suggesting...
[11:49] <kostkon> ricree, ok. then run rhythm from the terminal and try again to use the slider
[11:49] <rsk> toffan not sure it .net 2 works yet but try to install it with winetricks or use mono
[11:49] <ricree> kostkon:  that's where I've been running it from
[11:49] <kostkon> ricree, any errors?
[11:50] <ricree> kostkon:  CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[11:50] <toffan> rsk: I can not get.. could you please tell me in detais..?
[11:50] <rsk> toffan no
[11:50] <kostkon> ricree, only this one line?
[11:50] <ricree>  kostkon:  but that's prior to attempting to play anything
[11:50] <ricree>  kostkon: nothing else
[11:50] <kostkon> ricree, no, any errors when trying to lower the volume
[11:50] <kostkon> ricree, nothing?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> carverm: it comes with no promises and no sla, so if it goes weird you gotta fix it yourself
[11:50] <ricree>  kostkon:  none
[11:50] <rsk> toffan if you dont know theese things i recomend install XP in virtualbox and just run it from there
[11:50] <toffan> Spixx: can you please help me on this?
[11:50] <kostkon> ricree, hmm
[11:51] <ricree>  kostkon:  actually, it doesn't crash, it looks like it just hangs for a few seconds
[11:51] <carverm> ActionParsnip: Yep, it's great when it works. Painful when it breaks.
[11:51] <Spixx> on syslog-ng topic Conf == http://pastebin.com/m43b81b3a
[11:51] <toffan> rsk I have vista and win7 runs with ubuntu
[11:51] <ricree>  kostkon:  when the volume is changed
[11:51] <kostkon> ricree, and if you lower the volume you are still getting choppy sound?
[11:51] <Spixx> toffan: Dotnet is quite a hard bit to run though Wine
[11:51] <infidel2> i apt-get installed something that's an older version and they have a newer .deb. do i have to sudo apt-get remove the old package before dpkg -i'ing the new one?
[11:51] <ricree>  kostkon:  yeah
[11:51] <kostkon> ricree, :/
[11:52] <toffan> Spixx: is tehre anything else through which i can run Dotnet apps..?
[11:52] <Spixx> toffan: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[11:52] <cankoy> infidel2: no
[11:52] <Werztron> Bye.
[11:52] <toffan> thanks Spixx
[11:52] <toffan> I will try from that
[11:52] <Spixx> check winetricks out that will make it simpler to install and use dotnet also see to it that you install dotnet from www.microsoft.com/downloads
[11:53] <infidel2> cankoy will it install over the old version or just keep them both installed
[11:53] <toffan> thanks rsk also
[11:53] <cankoy> infidel2: it will remove the old version
[11:53] <Spixx> Back to syslog-ng? Anyone that know why this http://pastebin.com/m43b81b3a don't work :S it logged before I added the rules.
[11:53] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, same thing
[11:53] <kostkon> ricree, just to be sure, do you see rhythm in your sound prefs, in the applications tab
[11:53] <smuggboy> hello @all, i have a problem to open black&white images (1bit color depth) via " xloadimage " - i can only see black where the image should be. same problem in debian but attention -> no problem with debian live an some other Linux Distros... i need some help to track and solve the problem
[11:53] <Spixx> I'm trying to separete every hosts to a different file.
[11:54] <kostkon> ricree, open rhythm, put something playing and check
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: try: cd /; sudo find -iname "*.so" | grep flash
[11:54] <ricree> kostkon:  no, it doesn't show up
[11:54] <carverm> ActionParsnip: Getting errors when trying to follow the steps in the post. I've got pastebinit installed on the ubuntu box now. Output of  "sudo apt-get upgrade" is available now at http://pastebin.com/f25a40aa0
[11:54] <kostkon> ricree, :O even when plauing?
[11:54] <infidel2> cankoy how do you make dpkg install the package's dependencies?
[11:55] <ricree> kostkon:  nope, not even when playing
[11:55] <kostkon> ricree, right. interesting
[11:55] <kostkon> ricree, very interesting
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> carverm: sudo apt-get --purge remove totem    does that remove it
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> infidel2: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:56] <cankoy> infidel2: without apt-get, you need to fetch them 1by1, put in a folder with the main .deb and run 'dpkg -i *.deb'
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> infidel2: after you sudo dpkg -i debfile
[11:56] <kostkon> ricree, what about totem?
[11:56] <carverm> ActionParsnip: Errors encountered there also. Output is at http://pastebin.com/f6348a38
[11:57] <infidel2> ActionParsnip even if the dpkg -i debfile didnt install anything and just said that certain dependencies were needed first?
[11:57] <ricree> kostkon: one sec.  Had a promising comment on #gstreamer.  following that up right now
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> carverm: i'd go for the hack to carve totem ot, then remove it
[11:57] <kostkon> ricree, :)
[11:58] <yoyo_> hi
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> infidel2: the de file will be put into the apt cache folder, when you run sudo apt-get -f install it will install the deps, then the deb file you wanted
[11:58] <carverm> ActionParsnip: The method listed in the post you previously linked?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> carverm: yeah
[11:59] <infidel2> ActionParsnip that just tells me it couldnt find package install
[11:59] <carverm> ActionParsnip: I got errors when trying that, but I'll step through it again and post a pastebin dump for the step where it breaks
[11:59] <infidel2> ActionParsnip what do i put after install , the deb file name or just the package name?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> infidel2: step 1: install deb file with: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:00] <ricree> kostkon:  and now it works
[12:00] <kostkon> ricree, wow
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> infidel2: step 2: run: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:00] <kostkon> ricree, the solution?!
[12:00] <infidel2> ActionParsnip i did that and step two just says 'cant find package install'
[12:00] <ricree> kostkon: apparently there was a pref burried in gconf
[12:00] <kostkon> ricree, lol. it was still set to use oss?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> infidel2: then the deps you need are not on your repos, you need to add some or download the debs to satisfy the system
[12:01] <ricree> kostkon: musicaudiosing needed to be changed from osssink to pulsesink
[12:01] <kostkon> ricree, hehehe
[12:01] <carverm> ActionParsnip: dpkg errors out when trying to remove totem-common. Output is here: http://pastebin.com/f7491119e
[12:01] <kostkon> ricree, then what gst properties is for :S
[12:01] <ricree> kostkon: according to someone on #gstreamer it's known that gstreamer-properties is out of date
[12:01] <ricree> kostkon:  :(
[12:01] <kostkon> ricree, ah, right. then someone needs to update it :/
[12:01] <carverm> ActionParsnip: Bleh, that wasn't helpful. It didn't capture the error messages
[12:02] <ricree> kostkon:  and apparently it doesn't change some new keyes that were added
[12:02] <kostkon> ricree, it doesnt update all the gconf keys apparently eh?
[12:02] <kostkon> ricree, yeah :)
[12:02] <ricree> kostkon:  well thanks a ton for all of your help
[12:02] <kostkon> ricree, :)
[12:02] <robert8> bonjour
[12:02] <ricree> kostkon:  I probably wouldn't have even tracked it down to a gstreamer config issue if not for your help
[12:02] <kostkon> ricree, hehe. maybe
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> carverm: you could try force installing the deb, its a high level app so won't affect stuff
[12:03] <carverm> ActionParsnip: Ok. Lemme lookup the syntax and give it a shot
[12:03] <cankoy> carverm: you first pastebin suggests the postrm script is causing trouble (in the example link it was prerm)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> carverm: sudo dpkg --force-all -i debfile
[12:05] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, mtozses@mtozses-laptop:/mnt/depo/Belgeler$ cd /; sudo find -iname "*.so" | grep flash
[12:05] <suigeneris> ./usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.1/program/libflashli.so
[12:05] <suigeneris> ./home/mtozses/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[12:05] <suigeneris> mtozses@mtozses-laptop:/$
[12:05] <FloodBot2> suigeneris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <mow> are people getting spam from Jenelle here
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: weird, seems you only have the one file, if you run: mv /home/mtozses/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ~    then rerun the browser, do you have flash?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Mow: yeah with a video file?
[12:07] <carverm> cankoy: Your tip may have helped totem finally get removed. I removed totem-common.postrm and it seems like it may have successfully removed the package now
[12:07] <EvRide> anyone using empathy?
[12:07] <mow> ya says something about kids:(
[12:08] <tavasti> is it possible to disable dcc totally from xchat?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Mow: yeah, just cancel it
[12:08] <snowrichard> connecting to freenode took a long time just now
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> tavasti: i'm sure you could disable all file transfers in the settings
[12:09] <EvRide> well anyways, i can't stand empathy, anyone else have the same opinion?
[12:09] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, I don't
[12:09] <mow> ActionParsnip > Jenelle should be perminataly band from here
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: then you have the 10.0 file, not 10.1
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Mow: i'm not an op
[12:10] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, when I move it back to ./mozilla/plugins/, I have 10.1
[12:10] <mow> ActionParsnip > the title suggest some kind of child porn IMO
[12:10] <cvandonderen_> Hiya
[12:11] <EvRide> jezus kreist, what are you guys talking about?
[12:11] <cvandonderen_> How can I import a .pst file in Evolution 2.28 (Ub 9.10)? all import options stay greyed-out
[12:11] <kkkduifjalsdd> is there a timer for the terminal, starting from 0 sec and going on...
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: rm ~/libflasplayer.so; wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz; tar zxvf ./flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz; mv ~/install_flash_player_10_linux/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins; rm -rf ./install_flash_player_10_linux; rm ~/flashplayer10_1_p1_linux_111709.tar.gz
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: never mind then
[12:12] <cankoy> carverm: any luck with 'apt-get upgrade' now?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: you got it, don't run the command
[12:12] <pinguin07> hai
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: do the vids play better
[12:12] <LjL> kkkduifjalsdd: to do what? "sleep" is a very simple timer: it'll terminate after n seconds
[12:13] <EvRide> actionparsnip, you an actionscript developer?
[12:13] <suigeneris> nou, still not the full length
[12:13] <carverm> Still not happy. Output is here http://pastebin.com/f3e4b81d0
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> EvRide: no i just use command line a lot
[12:13] <carverm> cankoy: output is here http://pastebin.com/f3e4b81d0
[12:13] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip*
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: try a video with the newer flash
[12:14] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip,     Dosya adı: libflashplayer.so / Shockwave Flash 10.1 d51 <--- from about:plugins
[12:14] <EvRide> well i was actually going to ask you before you posted that... cause of your name
[12:14] <kkkduifjalsdd> LjL, I mean it should show me the elapsed time, e.g. when making a presentation
[12:15] <nou> suigeneris: full length of what ?
[12:15] <EvRide> looking for a stop watch kkkduifjalsdd?
[12:15] <suigeneris> nou, that was directed to ActionParsnip, sorry
[12:15] <kkkduifjalsdd> EvRide, yes
[12:16] <pinguin07> hai,
[12:16] <EvRide> kkduifjalsdd: http://www.online-stopwatch.com/
[12:17] <przemo> hi
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: how are videos?
[12:17] <przemo> ok thanx
[12:17] <LjL> kkkduifjalsdd: i can't find anything like that for the terminal... could probably be hacked together as a script, though
[12:17] <EvRide> there is also a stopwatch program you can install through synaptic
[12:17] <kkkduifjalsdd> EvRide, thx a lot
[12:17] <EvRide> yup
[12:17] <cankoy> carverm: try 'apt-get install gnome-common'
[12:18] <carverm> cankoy: output is here http://pastebin.com/f1aaac1d9
[12:18] <cankoy> carverm: basically there're 52 packages in troubled state, you need to fix them 1 by 1 if necessary
[12:20] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip, it looks okay now. I have to try other videos too
[12:20] <suigeneris> thanks
[12:20] <cankoy> carverm: can you remove any of those *-dev packages?
[12:20] <carverm> cankoy: let me check
[12:22] <carverm> cankoy: If I try to remove using 'sudo apt-get remove libxine-dev' for example, this is the result http://pastebin.com/fdca0827
[12:23] <Dougal> I want to run graphical programs on my desktop with superuser privelages, there's a small program that lets me do that, just trying to remember the name. gsudo, is what i thought it was called. Does anyone know the program i'm talking about?
[12:24] <Fake51> anyone wellversed with screen? have a problem with input, keys not getting through properly
[12:24] <cankoy> carverm: the number has become 50, what does 'apt-cache policy libxine-dev' report?
[12:24] <EagleScreen> Dougal: it is gksu
[12:24] <Adrian1> Hello. Can somebody please help me install ebox ?
[12:24] <carverm> cankoy: http://pastebin.com/f63d90ba8
[12:25] <EagleScreen> Fake51: wrong keyboard layout?
[12:25] <carverm> cankoy: I was able to remove some of the unused packages a bit earlier, which is why the # of packages wanting attention has dropped
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Adrian1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[12:25] <Fake51> EagleScreen: doubt it, everything else works just fine
[12:25] <Fake51> EagleScreen: my problem is that shift-tab doesn't come through
[12:26] <cankoy> carverm: 'apt-get remove libexpat1-dev'
[12:26] <EagleScreen> Fake51: do they work in a tty terminal?
[12:26] <Adrian1> ActionParsnip: I done that. It doesen't work.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Adrian1: thats all i know
[12:27] <Dougal> ah, i wanted *gksudo* thanks
[12:27] <carverm> cankoy: That removed some packages then ended with an error. Down to 39. http://pastebin.com/f4bf011a1
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Adrian1: i use ssh, does everything
[12:27] <Fake51> EagleScreen: well, when I run in a terminal without using screen, shift-tab gets through just fine
[12:27] <Fake51> EagleScreen: same comp, using screen, no dice
[12:28] <cankoy> carverm: if you followed the output messages, it should be apparent for you how to fix things now?
[12:29] <Fake51> EagleScreen: hmmm, could be a TERM thing ... got it working on another comp, different TERM setting. Thanks for the input :)
[12:29] <carverm> cankoy: Not quite. If it won't let me remove libexpat1-dev, what is next step?
[12:30] <cankoy> carverm: postrm is causing problem for it, so...
[12:30] <cankoy> carverm: correcting, prerm
[12:30] <carverm> cankoy: so remove libexpat1.prerm from /var/lib/dpkg/info ?
[12:31] <cankoy> carverm: yes
[12:31] <mrXX> gdmorning ppl
[12:31] <cankoy> carverm: libexpat1-dev.prerm
[12:31] <nathan_muir> hi
[12:32] <mrXX> is anybody been using Poomo here?
[12:32] <mrXX> i need some help with pommo and there is no channel for pommo
[12:32] <carverm> cankoy: seems to have removed that one now. let me work through the list and see if I can get this cleaned up. thanks much for the help
[12:32] <alumno> hey
[12:32] <alumno> im having weird issues
[12:33] <Adrian1> invoke-rc.d: initscript ebox, action "apache" failed.
[12:33] <alumno> i cant login, it says theres not enough space on my hd space
[12:33] <alumno> im dual boot on ubuntu and windows
[12:33] <mrXX> alumno looks like u have clear the junk out of your pc
[12:33] <alumno> and also, how do i erase a ubuntu? cuz i had a problem and now i have 2ubuntus and 1windows
[12:33] <mrXX> alumno lol,
[12:33] <alumno> it's weird cuz i have like 330GB
[12:33] <mrXX> alumno did u setup ubuntu thru wubi?
[12:33] <om26er> alumno, not two ubuntu's two kernels
[12:33] <alumno> oh yeah im on schools comp
[12:34] <alumno> nono om26er
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> alumno:  you can delete  the extra ubuntu install/partion and repartiion/reforamt/mount the drive space somewhere.
[12:34] <alumno> i have 2ubuntu
[12:34] <alumno> and like 4kernels
[12:34] <alumno> cuz i got whathever graphic card error
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> alumno:  use gparted to depete the proper partions.
[12:34] <benc> in upstart what this means? stop on runlevel [!023456]
[12:34] <alumno> and had to reinstall all over again, i have to erase it
[12:34] <mrXX> alumno then go to windows, find the drive where u installed ubunntu, there should be an icon for Uninstall ubunut
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> benc:  it stops the service on run levels 0 2 3 4 5 6  I think.. No sure what the ! means..
[12:34] <alumno> so what do i do?
[12:35] <alumno> when i put gparted, it said that it didnt recognize
[12:35] <mrXX> alumno log into windows, go to the folder where ubuntu is setup, and uninstall it
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> alumno: be more verbose in your error messages. and you may be using gparted incorrectly
[12:35] <benc> Dr_Willis: I'm runnign a web server. when it is reasonable to stop it? Is there a job example for a web server I can use as a reference?
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> alumno:  You did a normal install or a wubi install?
[12:35] <alumno> Dr_Willis, i dunno
[12:36] <alumno> it wasnt me who installed it
[12:36] <alumno> as u can see, it's the schools computer
[12:36] <alumno> so they installed ubuntu again
[12:36] <alumno> so now i have 2ubuntus
[12:36] <krishna> Hi
[12:36] <alumno> and 1windows xp
[12:36] <mrXX> alumno log into the windows partition and see if there is any folder called UBUNTU somewhere
[12:36] <alumno> so how do i fix it so that i acn have only 1ubuntu?
[12:36] <alumno> w8
[12:37] <krishna> i have upgraded  using update manager to 9.10 from 04/// now, i want to install windows7.... is it ok to restore grub from 9.04 live cd ??????
[12:37] <mrXX> alumno log into the windows partition , search if there is a Ubuntu folder somewhere, and let us know
[12:37] <alumno> mrXX, where?
[12:37] <mrXX> alumno is the computer with you?
[12:37] <alumno> w8 ill go use search engine lol
[12:37] <alumno> yeh
[12:37] <alumno> im on my partners computer with ubuntu xD
[12:37] <mrXX> alumno then get into the hard drive
[12:38] <kahen> hi, i'm on a fresh install of karmic and flash randomly stops playing sound from time to time. like one minute i play a youtube video and it's fine, i go and do something else and then when i try and play another video *poof* sound's gone. this _never_ used to happen on gutsy->jaunty (all 4 releases)
[12:38] <kahen> and yes, i was using pulseaudio on jaunty as well
[12:38] <mrXX> alumno see if you can search the file WUBI somewhere
[12:38] <mrXX> alumno or even a folder called ubuntu!
[12:38] <alumno> ubuntu is not found :S
[12:39] <mrXX> search wubi
[12:39] <conb123> Er i just removed that envelope icon on the top bar that lets you switch between im's, email applications etc assuming i could add it again but now i cannot find it in add to panel where is it?
[12:39] <JordanC> Ubuntu was lost, but now is found, alumno
[12:39] <alumno> nothing man
[12:39] <krishna>  i have upgraded  using update manager to 9.10 from 04/// now, i want to install windows7.... is it ok to restore grub from 9.04 live cd ? or should i have to download the 9.10 live cd.... because i read in a site before karmic release that karmic has grub 2 while jaunty  grub 1.5... so it possible to do from a jaunty cd ???
[12:39] <alumno> JordanC, it's not lost lol, it just that i have 2ubuntu partitions xD
[12:39] <mrXX> alumno if so seems like ubuntu has not been installed from windows
[12:39] <nathan_muir> hey folks - i would like to change the cpu governer without typing in the password everytime - as i found out, polkit doesn't come with karmic - can someone tell me how to set it up via console/config-file?
[12:40] <RobLikesBrunch> Is it correct thinking that a proxy that allows users outside the intranet to access IP-based subscription services should be a reverse proxy?
[12:40] <kostkon> kahen, sound stops only in flash?
[12:40] <alumno> mrXX, dunno
[12:40] <Will123456> krishna:  if you installed 9.04, then you'll have grub 1.5 as your bootloader
[12:40] <mrXX> alumno then do u have ubuntu live cd?
[12:40] <kahen> krishna: probably not. karmic uses grub2 iirc
[12:40] <mrXX> alumno or any bootable cd?
[12:40] <JordanC> conb123: Right click on the panel at the top, and click "Add To Panel", then select  "Indicator Applet" :)
[12:40] <alumno> mrXX, i dont have one
[12:40] <Will123456> krishna: using a 9.04 live CD is probably safer
[12:40] <mrXX> alumno how many disk partition you have?
[12:40] <ltspadmin>  i m getting an error while create the users..
[12:40] <ltspadmin>  getting an error message in ubuntu 8.04 ltsp server(users-admin:2285): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: create_dbus_struct_from_user: assertion `(login && password && homedir && shell)' failed
[12:40] <alumno> mrXX, dunno
[12:40] <conb123> JordanC: Ah that's what it's called, thanks alot
[12:40] <alumno> how do i check?
[12:40] <krishna> Will123456, you didnot read properly.. i said "I UPGRADED jaunty to karmic using manager update... so is it ok to use karmic live or januty liove ?
[12:41] <Will123456> krishnha: if you upgraded ubuntu, then it would not have upgraded the grub install
[12:41] <kazorin> Anyone here familiar with the various Wine front-ends? I'm just wondering what to get.
[12:41] <alumno> but on booting i have ubuntu+it's recovery and memtest stuff, ubuntu+etc, windows xp
[12:41] <JordanC> conb123: No problem :) It happens.
[12:41] <mrXX> alumno are you in windows or ubuntu right now?
[12:41] <redliner> hi
[12:41] <Will123456> krishna: even if you're running 9.10 now, you'll be using a grub 1.5, not 2
[12:41] <krishna> Will123456, ok..
[12:41] <kahen> kostkon: dunno actually. don't have the problem _right now_. i shall make a note of checking that next time (any audio file from any random podcast played with the totem plugin will do, right?)
[12:41] <redliner> help me to install it on acer aspire one
[12:41] <redliner> zg5
[12:41] <Will123456> krishna: that's assuming you haven't manually reinstalled grub since upgrading to 9.10
[12:41] <RobLikesBrunch>  Is it correct thinking that a proxy that allows users outside the intranet to access IP-based subscription services should be a reverse proxy?
[12:41] <kostkon> kahen, yeah
[12:41] <krishna> Will123456, i havent
[12:42] <mrXX> redliner download wubi and it will do the trick
[12:42] <krishna> Will123456, how to check if i had reinstalled grub ?
[12:42] <epinky> redliner: install what?
[12:42] <redliner> mrXX: exactly i've installed it and configured but LED of wireless isn't working
[12:42] <Will123456> krishna: find some way to check the grub version - i don't know off the top of my head.
[12:43] <redliner> sorry for my english
[12:43] <mrXX> redliner many hardware is not supported still, use a hard cable to surf the net search for driver if you can get one
[12:43] <kazorin> Is anyone here familiar with Wine and it's various front-ends?
[12:43] <krishna> menu.lst has not say that its 1.5
[12:43] <redliner> mrXX: so sad
[12:44] <mrXX> redliner ya dude, i have acer aspire and my mic is still not working
[12:44] <Will123456> krishna: incidentally i don't know much about restoring grub. i can't say that whatever you're planning to do with it will work-  i can only say that if you installed using 9.04 then upgraded using the update manager (instead of say, doing a fresh install from CD), then your grub version will be the same as when you installed grub the first time.
[12:44] <akyapt> i have ubuntu 9.04:can any 1 tell me how can i install 9.10 by removing 9.04??????
[12:44] <alumno> so help me?
[12:44] <mrXX> akyapt run $update-manager-d
[12:44] <krishna> Will123456, ok , i got your. Thanks to you
[12:44] <mrXX> alumno r u in windows or ubuntu?
[12:44] <switchgirl> there is a national disaster i need help setting up a rss feed link to my channel #cumbria-flood anyone help?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> akyapt:  the 9.10 installer can reformat the 9.04 filesystems if you telll it to. That will delete ALL the data on the 9.04 filesystems
[12:44] <krishna> akyapt, update manager to fresh install
[12:44] <Will123456> krishna: good luck :)
[12:44] <krishna> akyapt, * upgrade
[12:44] <jcrawford> hey guys is there a reason why apps do not remember what screen they were on previously?  I know in OS X and Windows the apps go to the screen they were last on when opened again
[12:45] <krishna> akyapt, get a live cd for a fresh install
[12:45] <LjL> switchgirl: you could use supybot, i believe it has an rss plugin. ask me further in #ubuntu-bots
[12:45] <Will123456> switchgirl: cumbria is flooding? i have family there
[12:45] <switchgirl> Will123456, yeah hell heah they have army billeted to help out
[12:45] <krishna> akyapt, if you say "remove" is complete removal of this 9.04 > fresh install
[12:45] <switchgirl> its that bad
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  thats a feature of the window manager to rember or not.  some apps also dont always 'open' properly so they ignore the wm hints
[12:46] <kavurt> mrXX: redliner: I have acer expire one and everything is working
[12:46] <jcrawford> Dr_Willis, is there a setting I have to set in my WM for that or is it on by default?
[12:46] <akyapt> krishna:while booting form cd??
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  shoudl rember by default for gnome i think. Most of my apps do rember here
[12:46] <jcrawford> xchat, thunderbird, firefox, etc seem to open on the primary display rather than the last position
[12:46] <redliner> kavurt: hmm
[12:46] <jcrawford> i am running gnome
[12:46] <jphillips86> How do I switch the command key and control key on a macbook running ubuntu
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  firefox rembers here. On my Nvidia/twinview system
[12:46] <krishna> akyapt, yes, boot live cd..  "remove" your ubuntu partition.. reinstall ubuntu   = "remove:" this complelete..
[12:47] <jcrawford> jphillips86, i can help with that
[12:47] <nathan_muir> bye
[12:47] <jcrawford> go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[12:47] <krishna> akyapt, why not try upgrade using updatemanager ?
[12:47] <jcrawford> make sure you choose Apple and Macintosh for the keyboard type
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  forget that..firefox dont rember. :) it just opens on the 2nd monitor because thats where my IRC client is at.
[12:47] <akyapt> krishna:it takes a along time na
[12:47] <alumno> can anyone help me???
[12:47] <alumno> how do i erase the extra ubuntu partition?
[12:47] <alumno> either in ubuntu or xp?
[12:48] <jcrawford> jphillips86, for what i just said i am talking about the Layout tab :)
[12:48] <jcrawford> once that is done let me know and i will tell you the next step
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> alumno:  use  a live cd, and gparted, or fdisk - is one way Or the xp disk management tools
[12:48] <epinky> alumno: use gparted CD
[12:48] <krishna> akyapt, if your ubuntu is UP TO DATE (has all updates).. then download, alternate.iso and mount it.. its simple because you can pause and resume the download ..
[12:49] <alumno> gparted doesnt work :S
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> alumno:  you may be using it wrong. it works for most people.
[12:49] <alumno> but for gparted i dont need a live cd, do i?
[12:49] <kavurt> alumno: what do you mean "erase"? do you want to format it?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> alumno:  i often use gparted from a live cd. that way all filesystems are unmounted
[12:49] <akyapt> krishna:i got the cd on request ...and i tried to boot but didint know how to delete the 9.04 partition ...so cancelled it
[12:50] <akyapt> krishna:ya i have all the updates ,but i have the cd...
[12:51] <epinky> alumno: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php , it works most of the time
[12:51] <george> hello
[12:51] <krishna> akyapt, don't.. try downloading alternate iso . because you can pause and resume the download if you slow internet (unlike in update manager)
[12:51] <alumno> kavurt, i have two ubuntu partitions
[12:51] <jcrawford> yay helped my first ubuntu user haha
[12:51] <alumno> cuz one had a problem and broke
[12:51] <alumno> but they didnt delete that partition
[12:51] <krishna> akyapt, the upgrade is very simple..  just mount the alternate and it will start the upgradation process..
[12:51] <alumno> now i cant enter the other ubuntu partition cuz it says i dont have enough memory
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> clarify what you mean by 'enter' ? You mean BOOT? or Mount?
[12:52] <meatbun> does ssh require a login name? is there a way u can use ssh via a name-less login? just password
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> and what is saying what exactly?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  you can set up ssh with keys  so you dont need to enter a password.. but ive never seen it set where you dont need a login name
[12:54] <meatbun> Dr_Willis, trying to see if i can ssh into router without username, since telnet does not require one
[12:55] <alumno> how do i see how much space ive got on my pc?
[12:55] <alumno> on ubuntu
[12:55] <zaggynl> df -h
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  err.. telnet is proberly defaulting to using your username and you just dont notice it..  of course its been years since i last used telnet
[12:56] <JordanC> Whut u talkin 'bout, Dr_Willis
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> JordanC: awesome!!!
[12:57] <alumno> ok i found this
[12:57] <jcrawford> lol JordanC
[12:57] <alumno> is called ubuntu(on /dev/sda5)
[12:57] <JordanC> :-)
[12:57] <alumno> so how do i erase it
[12:57] <JordanC> I just said it first
[12:57] <JordanC> :D
[12:57] <meatbun> Dr_Willis, telnet has a blank login name.
[12:57] <alumno_> heheh here i am on my pc ÑP
[12:58] <alumno_> :P
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  if you say so. last i used telnet was in college.. and i only use ssh these days
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  somthing seems weird about that statement
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> alumno: you can format the partition, you will lose any data on there which may include your boot info, if it is you will need to reinstate the bootup stuff
[12:58] <alumno> ok i have a problem
[12:58] <alumno> ActionParsnip, i did df -h
[12:58] <whammo> does anybody here have jack working in realtime?
[12:58] <alumno> /dev/sda7= use 100% :S
[12:59] <alumno> lol the size is 2.3G
[12:59] <alumno> how do i make it bigger?
[12:59] <george> sorry for my bad english, i installed ubuntu 9.10 minimal with a window manager and i use startx, i dont use a display manager. X starts, and when i run a second app, x server lost connection. on previous versions this worked
[12:59] <Sapote> alumno: have a spanish channel in #ubuntu-es
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> alumno: then you can free up space by uninstalling old kernels
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> alumno: and removing unneeded applications
[12:59] <alumno> Sapote, thx but im good with english :P
[12:59] <paschu> Hey guys
[12:59] <alumno_> soooo
[12:59] <alumno_> how do i do that
[12:59] <Sapote> george: check /var/log/syslog for reference
[13:00] <Sapote> alumno_: i see
[13:00] <kostkon> !hi | paschu
[13:00] <paschu> I changed my theme with emerald. But when i restart my computer, it has the default theme
[13:00] <paschu> what to do?
[13:00] <alumno_> byez
[13:00] <george> please help guys
[13:00] <meatbun> Dr_Willis, ok.... i should be using telnet away. i am just trying to compare the features in the router and see what it can cand can't do. or what it will or will not allow
[13:00] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me why my current install of ubuntu server on VB is giving me an ip of 10.0.*.* instead of 192.1.*.*, and every time I set it to static I get SIOCDELRT: No such process and can't access the internet, can anyone help?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> !emerald
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> alumno_: uname -a     will show you the current kernel. DO NOT remove this. dpkg -l | grep linux-image   will show you the installed kernels. if you remove the older kernels you will save ~120Mb per kernel
[13:00] <epinky> Sapote: viste
[13:00] <solexious> I have just added a user, how can I give them a mail box?
[13:00] <meatbun> Dr_Willis, shouldn't be
[13:00] <JordanC> meatbun: You're trying to telnet into your router? My old router used to have telnet available, but the password was changed every time I admin'd into it
[13:01] <meatbun> JordanC, how?
[13:01] <JordanC> If it's a cisco, you have to use their software
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> alumno: you can also remove openoffice.org (500Mb installed) and install abiword (10Mb installed) and gnumeric (12Mb installed) to save 478Mb space
[13:01] <paschu> I changed my theme with emerald. But when i restart my computer, it has the default theme. what to do=?
[13:01] <Sapote> hi epinky
[13:01] <meatbun> JordanC, i know of no such feature for cisco ios
[13:02] <whammo> is it possible with the surviving pieces left in the repos, get an alsa system running in ubuntu again?
[13:02] <meatbun> JordanC, if what u say is true, could be 3rd party, radius/tacacs
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> paschu: try renaming ~/.emerald   reboot and reset the theme
[13:02] <soul-d> how come without reason   ubuntu made my eth0 disapear on  an acer one mini thingy
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> paschu:  emerald is obsolete. it may be its just not starting emerald by default like it should. Try the 'fusion-icon' tool to see if it can set emerald to be the default decorator
[13:02] <soul-d> afther a  reboot
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> paschu: if its ok after a reboot then , you can delete the old folder
[13:02] <JordanC> meatbun: What type of router is it?
[13:02] <meatbun> 1841
[13:03] <whammo> I'm not looking for anybody to hold my hand, just some confirmation
[13:03] <JordanC> Cisco?
[13:03] <paschu> can only 1 person say the correct solution? :D
[13:03] <meatbun> ya
[13:03] <kostkon> whammo, what do oyu mean?
[13:03] <JordanC> Use SDM
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> paschu:  did ya read the emerald factoid about  "It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix."
[13:03] <meatbun> JordanC, i am using SDM
[13:04] <whammo> kostkon: pulse is unacceptable, but removing it breaks everything. is it possible to rebuild sound system with alsa?
[13:04] <meatbun> JordanC, just messing with ssh/telnet features
[13:04] <paschu> Dr_Willis: negative
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> !emerald | paschu
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> paschu: its linux, theres more than one way to skin a cat
[13:04] <faraway> hi everyone, has someone a good site that describes configure samba on ubuntu so that a windows machine is able to connect. (what already works: the ubuntu machine is listed on windows, but i cant access is, linux and macos are able to access the shares on the ubuntu machine without any problems)
[13:04] <vzhen> hi,  how to use local search stardict  ?     once i disconnected i can't search any word and just releasied it search through internet.  THX
[13:04] <paschu> hm, damn
[13:04] <JordanC> meatbun: Oh, then I don't know. Did you check the tech manual for the defaults?
[13:04] <paschu> then give me some sites with ubuntu skins
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> paschu:  so the best thing to do - would be to forget about emerald. :)
[13:05] <JordanC> That's where that info was for me
[13:05] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me why my current install of ubuntu server on VB is giving me an ip of 10.0.*.* instead of 192.1.*.*, and every time I set it to static I get SIOCDELRT: No such process and can't access the internet, can anyone help?
[13:05] <vzhen> how to use local search stardict  ?     once i disconnected i can't search any word and just releasied it search through internet.  THX
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> paschu:  GNOME is themeable. theres tools to  assist in installing new gnome/metacity/gtk themes. gnome-look.org
[13:05] <meatbun> JordanC, that's ok. no biggy
[13:05] <Sapote> faraway: maybe you add to samba useradd admin with same pass in windows machine
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  virtualbox networkiong defaults to being on a 'subnet/nat' type setup. Not the same ip range as the real network. see the virtualbox docs
[13:06] <kostkon> whammo, ok, you don;t like pulse.... eh, search the forums, there are many pulse removal how-tos that should work even on 9.10
[13:06] <solexious> I have just added a user, how can I give them a mail box? I'm using postfix
[13:06] <Sapote> Pirate_Hunter: try with sudo or root
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !themes | pashcu
[13:07] <Sapote> Pirate_Hunter: anyway configure /etc/network/interfaces with static
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> eyecandy causes ocular cavities. :)
[13:07] <vzhen> hi,  how to use local search stardict  ?     once i disconnected i can't search any word and just releasied it search through internet.  THX
[13:08] <soul-d> so anyone know how i can lan back on a acer one ?
[13:08] <meatbun> http://tinyurl.com/yddkhhr
[13:08] <meatbun> it doesn't work
[13:08] <sunkoo> Őìą®¾ŁŘ
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> soul-d: run:  sudo lshw -C network    you will see the wired chipset, you can websearch for guides
[13:08] <whammo> kostkon: i'm becoming suspicious that some of these "wow I did it" posts on the forums are bogus
[13:08] <faraway> Sapote: ok ill try this
[13:09] <om26er> !test
[13:09] <kurumin_> OI BEIJOS
[13:10] <kurumin_> OI
[13:10] <om26er> kurumin_, english only
[13:10] <paschu> is there a theme for ubuntu which looks like windows 7 or vista=
[13:10] <kurumin_> OI GATO
[13:10] <paschu> ?
[13:10] <phoenix_> ls
[13:10] <om26er> !ot | paschu
[13:10] <kostkon> whammo, er, search in the tutorials suboforum. a safe place to look for how-tos. every tutotial in there is checked by the mods first before being posted.
[13:10] <soul-d> no i don't  and why do i need to fix somthing that worked a day before ? i mean how can ubuntu al of sudden be broken  thats crap :S
[13:11] <bob-devil> hi all
[13:11] <om26er> !hi | bob-devil
[13:11] <soul-d> well it see the wireless chip for that mather
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> paschu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-make-ubuntu-look-like-windows-vista.html
[13:11] <bob-devil> :))
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> paschu: http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/05/make-ubuntu-look-like-vista.html
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  blasphmy! :) heh
[13:11] <shay27> Hello , i used pppoeconf in order set my dsl connection and now when i connect my laptop to router its not grab ip and not working ?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: i used to do it for laughs
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  dont forget that  OS-X lookalike stuff. :)
[13:12] <ashraf> peace
[13:13] <om26er> ashraf, ?
[13:13] <RichardT> could someone look at this problem: http://amkb.nl
[13:13] <ashraf> im new here
[13:13] <om26er> !hi | ashraf
[13:14] <rsk> RichardT there's nothing there
[13:14] <RichardT> sorry?
[13:14] <ashraf> how tu use yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[13:14] <rsk> RichardT at that URL
[13:14] <Sapote> ashraf: pidgin
[13:14] <om26er> ashraf, except for audio calling. empathy can be used for chat
[13:14] <nonama_> try empathy ashraf
[13:15] <om26er> ashraf, it comes with ubuntu9.10
[13:15] <ashraf> ok
[13:15] <RichardT> oh sorry, stupid IE thing. HOW I HATE MS!
[13:15] <ceW_fb_Kul> hy
[13:15] <nonama_> calmdown RichardT ...: D
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ashraf: pidin or gyachi
[13:16] <RichardT> it'll take about 2 hours for me to calm down... then it's beer time
[13:16] <nonama_> try other than IE ... :D
[13:17] <paschu> can i make my ubuntu look like osx WITHOUT emerald?
[13:17] <om26er> !emerland | paschu
[13:17] <grawity> paschu: Google for a Metacity theme and a GTK theme?
[13:17] <om26er> !emerald | paschu
[13:17] <shay27> Hello , i used pppoeconf in order set my dsl connection and now when i connect my laptop to router its not grab ip and not working ?
[13:17] <paschu> om26er: i already read this more than 4 times
[13:18] <om26er> paschu, why ask then. you can use the term compiz
[13:18] <paschu> grawity: too lazy to google
[13:19] <grawity> paschu: Ah well. http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=os+x+site:gnome-look.org
[13:19] <om26er> shay27, does it work on any other OS./distro
[13:19] <riivo>  i'd like to run slimrat in ubuntu, but i don't have the root right to install  libwww-mechanize-perl. is it possible to install it only for my user without root  permissions and to use slimrat?
[13:20] <puckman> Good afternoon.
[13:20] <puckman> Is anyone having problems running dpkg-reconfigure on ubunto 9.10 ?
[13:21] <mrXX> puckman whats up
[13:21] <kostkon> riivo, i have a much much better app for you
[13:21] <kostkon> !info tucan | riivo
[13:21] <puckman> mrXX: just installed 9.10 on a little ACER netbook
[13:21] <puckman> and it's not seeing the 1280x800 resolution
[13:22] <shay27> om26er: yes , and worked before until i set my dsl connection using the pppoeconf command
[13:22] <puckman> last time I had that with version 9.04 I ran dpkg-reconfigure to add the resolution but it does not seem to run
[13:22] <kostkon> riivo, you can even get the latest ver from getdeb.net
[13:22] <puckman> it will ask for my password and then just returns a prompt
[13:22] <puckman> any ideas?
[13:22] <mrXX> puckman oops, serious problem i think, i had that problem before and i couldnt do anything, i had to reinstall it
[13:23] <mrXX> puckman others might be able to help you
[13:23] <mrXX> puckman do you get a grub command shell?
[13:23] <puckman> mrXX: I can log on fine but stuck with a 1024x768 res
[13:24] <kostkon> riivo, http://tucaneando.com/ for more info
[13:25] <Dougal> Having trouble extracting Audio CDs with Soundjuicer: The MP3 option is listed but not selectable, and I don't want to use any of the other options.
[13:25] <Dougal> Anyone know much about soundjuicer? or a better room to ask the question in?
[13:25] <kostkon> Dougal, fresh installation?
[13:25] <disappearedng> Hey for passwordless ssh is there another way to identify a host without the IP
[13:26] <riivo> kostkon, will it run without x?
[13:26] <shay27> what is the command to erase flash disk ?
[13:26] <Dougal> kostkon: is that a suggestion? or a question? If it's a question I've had ubuntu installed for well over a year now, but i've never used it to rip tracks to mp3 before
[13:26] <Sapote> sassyn: dd
[13:26] <kostkon> riivo, ah! don't know :S maybe not
[13:26] <Sapote> sassyn: dd if=/dev/sdxx  of=zero
[13:27] <kostkon> Dougal, ok
[13:27] <Zane2> is there a restore fuction in ubuntu?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> puckman: have you read any guides on the model? You may need to find an xorg.conf to make it use the res you want
[13:27] <bazhang> Zane2, from sbackup or backintime-gnome ?
[13:27] <Bondes_Gift> hi
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Zane2: how do you mean?
[13:28] <Zane2> i'm about to try and install somthnig for the 1st time, but if i have problmems i want to know if i can go back.
[13:28] <Zane2> like how vista, you can go back to before the install of apps
[13:28] <riivo> kostkon, i need something to use in a server without x over ssh
[13:29] <Dougal> kostkon: the 'selection' dropdown only has four options, but when i go to edit the list, another two magically appear. With a bit of fiddling and editing i've discovered that it just won't display an option if the 'Gstreamer piplene' is set to the MP3 setting. Or to the AAC setting. Perhaps i need to get these codecs from somewhere?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Zane2: you can uninstall the app, if it upgrades an app from a PPA repo, you can simply remove the PPA then reinstall the app to get the old, there is no restore point stuff like windows
[13:29] <kostkon> riivo, it has a cli interface and as i can see http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/tucan it doesn't have any x related deps, so i don't, it may work
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Zane2: you could make an image of the partition in a liveCD then put it back if the system screws up
[13:29] <bazhang> !info backintime-common | Zane2
[13:29] <Sapote> Zane2: in linux you can remove apps without problems
[13:30] <as5sin3> eunice n_n
[13:30] <eunice> pare
[13:30] <eunice> ko
[13:30] <eunice> hmmm
[13:30] <eunice> heheheh
[13:30] <FloodBot1> eunice: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:30] <kostkon> riivo, oops, sorry, it needs python-gtk :S
[13:30] <eunice> pano mo ko nakita
[13:30] <eunice> ehhehe
[13:30] <as5sin3> lagot ka pare
[13:30] <as5sin3> dont flood
[13:31] <as5sin3> n_n
[13:31] <bazhang> eunice, as5sin3 english here
[13:31] <as5sin3> sori n_n
[13:31] <kostkon> Dougal, you could try installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[13:31] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[13:31] <eunice> sori
[13:31] <irwan> hi
[13:31] <riivo> kostkon, is it possible to install .deb's just for my user without having root permissions?
[13:31] <Zane2> i used ghost to back up my hard drive, but when i tryed to restore it, it didnt work, i got an erroe in grub, error 15. i got both 9.10 ubun and win7 installed
[13:32] <kostkon> riivo, don't think so
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> riivo:  no its not.
[13:32] <paschu> the "pcsx" playstation emulator doesnt run. It stops to load after i inserted the iso image
[13:32] <wapko> how do i set the time it takes for my monitor to turn off on my server..
[13:33] <Dougal> kostkon: where can i find out more information about that package? will a google search tell me all i need to know?
[13:33] <muep_> riivo: I guess you could have a private chrootable ubuntu tree under your home dir
[13:33] <kostkon> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | Dougal
[13:33] <hylman> hi ... can anyone help me with microphone on asus 1005ha?
[13:33] <muep_> riivo: but it's not very straightforward
[13:33] <renata> hello, if I want to install ubuntu over another distro, how is that possible, what should I do not to loose data?
[13:34] <kostkon> Dougal, or http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-restricted-extras or in synaptic
[13:34] <jrib> renata: well you should back up your data no matter what.  But is your /home on a separate partition?
[13:34] <riivo> muep_, but there has to be a way to compile it from source and intstall in to my home dir. i'm looking into it now
[13:34] <motu> hefe
[13:34] <hylman> anyone have the same problem with microphone on asus 1005ha?
[13:35] <motu> ich trinke hefe trallala
[13:35] <motu> hefe hell
[13:35] <renata> jrib, yes, i use opensuse with gnome, /home is separate. But I fear that setting files in /home will make new install programs mad
[13:35] <bazhang> !de | motu
[13:35] <motu> und schnell
[13:35] <motu> sorry ;)
[13:36] <jrib> renata: shouldn't matter.  If something does go wrong, just delete the corresponding settings folder and reconfigure that app
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> renata:  then mount  the old home to /media/wastheoldhome and copy over what data you need as needed..
[13:37] <Blues-Man> hi all
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> renata:  shareing /home btween different disrtos can  take some fixing of the owner/permissions of the files also
[13:37] <Blues-Man> after installed pidgin with extras for xmpp voice I cannot hear anything from firefox or vlc
[13:37] <renata> jrib, Dr_Willis ok thanks, I need to do back up first anyway, thanks
[13:38] <Blues-Man> only KDE sounds (amarok, etc)
[13:38] <Blues-Man> I read about pulseaudio, but I haven't understood how to fix
[13:39] <Dougal> kostkon: installing now, thanks :)
[13:39] <vivek> i need help
[13:39] <kostkon> Dougal, :)
[13:39] <vivek> to recover the data
[13:39] <vivek> can you help me pl
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> vivek:  ask a more clear concice question and give details
[13:39] <python_root1> vivek: just ask question in one line
[13:40] <kostkon> !details | vivek
[13:40] <om26er_> is vmware player free?
[13:41] <jrib> om26er_: some versions are, yes
[13:41] <bazhang> om26er_, as is vmware-server
[13:41] <python_root1> vmware player ?
[13:41] <om26er_> bazhang, how can i install it in ubuntu?
[13:41] <taidttp2007> yes
[13:41] <dooglus> about 10 minutes after running rhythmbox, a box pops up saying "The required software to play this file is not installed. You need to install suitable plugins to play media files. Do you want to search for a plugin that supports the selected file?
[13:41] <dooglus> "
[13:42] <python_root1> !vmware player > python_root1
[13:42] <dooglus> I don't know what song it's talking about, but it's annoying.  it happens every time
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | dooglus
[13:42] <catmando> hey all
[13:42] <platius> om26er_; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-2-0-x-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[13:42] <Dougal> kostkon: all fixed, thanks for you help!
[13:42] <dooglus> if I let it search, it tries to find the "ID3 tag demuxer" plugin, and fails
[13:42] <kostkon> dooglus, remove from your music lib any files that aren't songs or images
[13:43] <catmando> i'm having trouble setting up a NFS client. I keep getting permission denied errors.
[13:43] <dooglus> kostkon: I think only songs have id3 tags?
[13:43] <catmando> I've set the hostname on the server
[13:43] <kostkon> dooglus, i mean from the folders that rhythm is searching
[13:43] <catmando> and i've triple checked the /etc/exports file
[13:43] <catmando> but no dice
[13:43] <om26er_> i think i should try something open-source. which app should i use?
[13:43] <catmando> any ideas?
[13:43] <dooglus> kostkon: I don't want to.  I have videos, lyrics, etc. mixed in there.  I don't think it's the issue.
[13:43] <bazhang> om26er_, virtualbox-ose is in the repos
[13:44] <nonama_> catmando hw u check the firewall ...?
[13:44] <kostkon> dooglus, i think it is
[13:44] <catmando> nonama_, it's turned off
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1142209
[13:44] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: thanks; I'll take a look
[13:44] <python_root1> Dooglus lyrics may be the problem
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: make sure you install ubuntu-restricted-extras too
[13:45] <om26er_> bazhang, thanx. now installing
[13:45] <dooglus> python_root1: lyrics with ID3 tags?
[13:45] <om26er_> dooglus, you might have some wma files cuz i get it too when i scan my media library with rhythmbox
[13:46] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: in addition to what?  that thread is a little inconclusive
[13:46] <jcrawford> dooglus, sounds like you have it on shuffle or it is playing song after song and hitting a file type that it does not support.  It should be smarter and just ignore filetypes it cannot play IMO but that sounds like the issue
[13:46] <dooglus> jcrawford: I didn't play anything at all.  I ran rhythmbox.  it scans my music on startup even if I don't ask it to play anything
[13:47] <kostkon> jcrawford, unfortunatelly, rhtyhm doesn't ignore unknown filetypes
[13:47] <jcrawford> dooglus, ah that makes sense if it is scanning upon launch
[13:47] <jcrawford> yea someone should submit a patch for that :)
[13:47] <vivek> sir can you help
[13:47]  * jcrawford wishes he knew enough C
[13:47]  * jcrawford needs to get into C again heh
[13:48] <benc> I've created an upstart job for my app but its status is stop/working. how can I debug the problem?
[13:48] <dooglus> jcrawford: I don't think scanning on launch is a bug
[13:48] <vivek> need help can you help some one
[13:48] <vivek> please
[13:48] <bazhang> vivek, then ask a clear question
[13:49] <jcrawford> dooglus, no scanning on launch is not a bug but it should ignore filetypes it does not recognize I would consider that to be a bug
[13:49] <kostkon> jcrawford, indeed, a very old bug.
[13:50] <dooglus> I think it's bad that it doesn't tell me which file the problem is with
[13:50] <dooglus> I suspect it's an mp3
[13:50] <dooglus> but since it won't tell me, I can't be sure
[13:50] <kostkon> dooglus, any file that isn;t a song or image :S
[13:50] <kostkon> dooglus, sorry
[13:50] <kostkon> dooglus, you'll have to move them to other folders
[13:51] <mataks> !audio
[13:51] <dooglus> kostkon: that's not right.  it used to be fine with text and video files.  it's something I've added in the last week or so that is triggering the problem
[13:51] <kostkon> dooglus, don't know then :S
[13:51] <kostkon> dooglus, try to remember what you have added since last week
[13:52] <JordanC> Or just generate a list of recently installed :P
[13:52] <vilcoyot> Hi, I'm looking for a bash.org-like software. Does anybody know an open source solution ?
[13:52] <dooglus> kostkon: I added far too much last week
[13:52] <jcrawford> doogie, remove what you added since last week then add them one by one to find the conflicting file
[13:52] <jcrawford> haha
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: you need those plugins, they will give what you need
[13:52] <kostkon> dooglus, :/
[13:52] <jcrawford> remove it all and add it back in chunks i guess
[13:52] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: installing ubuntu-restricted-extras forces the uninstall of devede :(
[13:52] <JordanC> Don't remove it all, just remove stuff that is audio-related
[13:52] <dooglus> !info devede
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: then reinstall it after
[13:53] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: that forces the uninstall of other stuff: The following packages will be REMOVED
[13:53] <dooglus>   libavformat52 libpostproc51 libswscale0
[13:54] <apparle> how to edit the splash screen
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> !splash
[13:54] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I use Kubuntu
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: the list at the bottom of the link will show you the plugin packages to install (gstreamer good bad ugly etc)
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> apparle: ask in #kubuntu then
[13:55] <JediMaster> Hi guys, I've got a Cpanel based primary DNS server and I want to setup an ubuntu box as the secondary, I know it's a horrid dirty hack, but would rsyncing the zone files across hourly actually work? (rather than setting it up properly as a secondary dns and having to put each zone in by hand when creating one through cpanel)
[13:55] <jcrawford> what is Kubuntu?
[13:55] <apparle> Also how to change the GRUB splash screen
[13:55] <McPeter> jcrawford, ubuntu + KDE
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: (ubuntu - gnome - metacity ) + (kde + kwin)
[13:55] <JediMaster> jcrawford, it's ubuntu with KDE desktop instead of gnome
[13:55] <jcrawford> ah
[13:55] <folliculated34> hi guys, performance on my ar5001 with ath5k is bad. madwifi and ndiswrapper just don't work. but on my friend's it works very very well... what could be the problem?
[13:55] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I though it might be common procedure ..... and there is no reply fromkubuntu
[13:56] <python_root1> !ask
[13:56] <nonama_> apparle install those mentioned prgm in kubuntu...
[13:56] <BluesKaj> !kde | jcrawford
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> apparle: do you mean the loading xsplas rubbish or something else?
[13:56] <jcrawford> BluesKaj, i know what kde is :)
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: go find out
[13:56] <jcrawford> i prefer gnome right now :)
[13:56] <saa5> I am on Kubuntu 9.10 and it has been months since I've seen a notification to reboot or updates to installed software... I think that particular notification is broken on my system or disabled. what am I looking for?
[13:56] <dooglus> any idea how to get rhythmbox to rescan my music?  seems it doesn't want to do it again now.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> saa5: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:57] <BluesKaj> well, you asked about kubuntu , jcrawford , I assumed you needed to know why it's called that
[13:57] <saa5> Some days after reinstalling karmic I think I have now installed the most important packages. How can I find out, which ones these are (for the installation on another laptop)?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> saa5: you can even try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:57] <spridel> dooglus,  you may want it to open folder
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !clone | saa5
[13:57] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I want to change both the image at background of GRUB the one I see after I select the ubuntu
[13:57] <jcrawford> soon as someone said KDE i knew why it was named Kubuntu :)
[13:58] <apparle> nonama_: what do you mean prgm in kubuntu
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | apparle this shiws how to edit grub2 for a ackground
[13:58] <saa5> !automate
[13:58] <epinky> folliculated34: maybe {AP,router} misconfiguration
[13:58] <folliculated34> apparle, I don't know how they do it, but sidux uses custom grub splash screens for grub legacy
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> apparle: you should look in systemsettings for the kde splash stuff
[13:58] <saa5> !cloning
[13:58] <apparle> nonama_:  when I did !splash in kubuntu I got a reply why is not there
[13:58] <folliculated34> epinky, how? I've tried changing channels but no diff
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> people adding a background to grub2 is weird, its on the screen for like 4 seconds, why bother
[13:59] <epinky> folliculated34: a,b,g,N?
[13:59] <Zane2> ActionParsnip, lol
[13:59] <Zane2> i had mine set to 1 sec
[14:00] <fasta> How can I _really_ delete files from an USB key? I don't care about wiping.
[14:00] <nonama_> apparle ... sudo apt-get install  gnome-splashscreen-manager in kubuntu ...
[14:00] <apparle> ActionParsnip: Misunderstanding.... I wan to change the screen where..... kubuntu is written and the progress bar fills up..... before the logon screen
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> apparle: let me watch a vid of this. i dropped kde as soon a 4 came out and never looked back
[14:01] <LjL> fasta: it may be easier or much harder depending on the filesystem you have on it. i know it's not very easy with ext3 and ext4 (or at least, you're not guaranteed deletion)
[14:01] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: I just did "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-pitfdll" as suggested in that thread.  they were all "already the newest version".  I also installed the extras thing you mentions.  I still see the error.
[14:01] <fasta> LjL: NTFS
[14:01] <apparle> nonama_: Isn't there a direct method ... like editing a file etc... don't want to install this as it requires a lot of gnome dependencies
[14:02] <kostkon> dooglus, eh, do you have a 32bit or a 64bit isntallation?
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: uhm, actually it is "msdos" which I think is vfat.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> apparle: like the 5 icons that light up?
[14:02] <LjL> fasta: hm i'm not sure about NTFS. anyway you can use "shred" or "wipe", although they're probably overkill for a USB key (they're meant for magnetic hard drives), so you probably want to use them with options telling them to only make one pass
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: I can reformat it if that would make things easier in the future.
[14:02] <LjL> fasta: vfat should be fine
[14:02] <apparle> ActionParsnip: vid=? 9.10 Kubuntu is awesome.... worth a try..... 4.3 is more stable than 3.5.x
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: I am not interested in wiping.
[14:02] <dooglus> kostkon: I have both, I dual boot.  I only use the 32bit one, because I can't get ndiswrapper to work on the 64bit partition, and the flash plugin is very flaky there too
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: just freeing up space.
[14:02] <LjL> fasta: uh... "rm"?!
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> apparle: i just dislike it now, too slow. LXDE is much to my tatses
[14:03] <kostkon> dooglus, then, try installing the w32codecs package from the medibuntu repo
[14:03] <dooglus> kostkon: I use the -pae 32bit kernel
[14:03] <kostkon> !medibuntu | dooglus
[14:03] <kostkon> dooglus, ok
[14:03] <dooglus> kostkon: I have w32codecs installed
[14:03] <LjL> fasta: "really" delete is usually meant as opposed to plain deleting.
[14:03] <kostkon> dooglus, oh, ok
[14:03] <Linux-IRC> Hello, how can i search members in ubuntuforums ?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> apparle: do you mean the thing with teh 5 icons and the large K on the right when it finally loads?
[14:03] <apparle> ActionParsnip: No.... before that.... the blue screen with kubuntu and a progress bar..... as there was for ubuntu before 9.10 in orange
[14:03] <LjL> fasta: if you just want to free up the space without secure deletion, use rm or your nautilus or anything.
[14:03] <fasta> LjL: the problem is that it ends up in my trash.
[14:03] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ?
[14:03] <LjL> fasta: use rm.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> apparle: yes thats xsplash
[14:03] <dooglus> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/323334/
[14:03] <Linux-IRC> Has anyone here an account in ubuntuforums?
[14:04] <kostkon> dooglus, then, there aren't any other codec packages you could install i think
[14:04] <Linux-IRC> Hello, how can i search members in ubuntuforums ?
[14:04] <fasta> LjL: ok, but how can I say "clean trash" then?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> apparle: look for xsplash themes, i think its startupmanager which can change that
[14:04] <LjL> fasta: haven't got a clue, i don't use gnome
[14:04] <BlouBlou> !repeat | Linux-IRC
[14:04] <fasta> LjL: ok, I will do it via CLI myself then.
[14:04] <LjL> !trash | fasta
[14:04] <dooglus> do I need to reboot after installing gstreamer plugins?
[14:04] <fasta> LjL: that is another trash.
[14:04] <kostkon> dooglus, no
[14:04] <dooglus> or log out and in again at least?
[14:05] <apparle> ActionParsnip: again a gnome program ..... don't have good enough download bandwidth to download all the associated gnome dependencies
[14:05] <fasta> LjL: the system is crazy ;)
[14:05] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test (a pilot) another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ?
[14:05] <LjL> fasta: won't Shift+Del from nautilus result in direct deletion rather than trashing, anyway?
[14:05] <Linux-IRC> !repeat
[14:05] <kostkon> dooglus, then, you are getting the error because you have some let's say non-media files in the folders that rhythm is scanning
[14:05] <folliculated34> folliculated34, b
[14:06] <folliculated34> epinky, b
[14:06] <dooglus> kostkon: the error is about multiplexed ID3 tags
[14:06] <kostkon> dooglus, oh, right
[14:06] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test (a pilot) another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ? will configuring a VLAN help ?
[14:06] <fasta> LjL: It should, but I don't remember whether or not I used that this time.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> apparle: all i can suggest is flick around in systemsettings
[14:08] <Bersaresk> Hi, how can i install inkscape 0.46 in karmic koala (the only choice is 0.47pre4 which has errors)
[14:09] <jrib> Bersaresk: what errors?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Bersaresk: if you can find a repo with it on yes, or compile the code for the older version
[14:10] <Bersaresk> inkscape crashes when i use patterns to fill...
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Bersaresk: log a bug too
[14:10] <kostkon> dooglus, it could be that you may have some corrupted mp3s
[14:10] <apparle> ActionParsnip: did that earlier.... found nothing.... isn't there a direct method via CLI or editing files etc
[14:12] <matteo1990> Hi all, i have a problem with an external NTFS hard disk. I coonected it to my Laptop but nothing happens (usually when i turned it on Ubuntu opened it). So i went to /media. Here there are 4 folders cdrom, disk, disk-1. if i try to open disk or disk1 it says me that i have not the permission. When i try with sudo-su it seems that folder are empty... What to do? Thanks alot
[14:12] <dooglus> kostkon: it's possible, yes.  rhythmbox doesn't tell me which file has the problem, and I have rather a lot of mp3 files
[14:12] <jrib> matteo1990: have you tried mounting the disk yourself?
[14:13] <matteo1990> >jrib May u explain me how?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> apparle: no idea, i think xsplah is a waste of time and remove it
[14:13] <kostkon> dooglus, you could try http://mp3val.sourceforge.net/ or http://mp3diags.sourceforge.net/
[14:13] <jrib> matteo1990: pastebin the output of « sudo fdisk -l » and « mount ».  I'll be right back, making breakfast
[14:14] <matteo1990> >jrib never used pastebin... May i MP it to you?
[14:14] <Zane2> what does repo mean
[14:14] <LjL> matteo1990: just open the pastebin site, paste the thing you need to paste in it, then give him the URL that results.
[14:14] <bazhang> matteo1990, open a browser to paste.ubuntu.com and put it there
[14:14] <LjL> !repositories > Zane2    (Zane2, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:14] <Zane2> as in ppa
[14:14] <dooglus> Zane2: it's short for repository
[14:14] <Travis-42> in 64-bit ubuntu my flash player plugin has stopped working -- is there a way to reset it?
[14:15] <bazhang> Zane2, personal package archive
[14:15] <Zane2> ok thx
[14:15] <dooglus> Travis-42: I don't think flash really works in 64 bit
[14:15] <Travis-42> dooglus: it worked for me until 10 minutes ago
[14:15] <Zane2> this is all so different than windows
[14:15] <dooglus> Travis-42: for how long?  I find it works about 50% of the time.  other times it's completely unresponsive to mouse clicks
[14:16] <Travis-42> dooglus: I never had a problem until today since avoiding compiz.
[14:16] <IHS_Volunteer> Anyone here know how Arora(a simple webkit browser)  compares to firefox in terms of CPU and memory requirements? I'd figure arora is at least a little bit less resource hungry, but I don't know how much.
[14:16] <mataks> just wanna ask is there a program that is like Deep Freeze in windows? ....  that do a system restore everytime you boot..
[14:16] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test (a pilot) another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ? will configuring a VLAN help?
[14:17] <LjL> mataks: what is a system restore?
[14:17] <IHS_Volunteer> LjL, it sandboxes the entire system
[14:17] <dooglus> LjL: I presume he wants to restore from a known state each boot
[14:17] <dooglus> LjL: like a 'norton ghost' image, say
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> mataks: you could setup an rsync to run at boot to copy every file from the surce to the destibation and overwrite all files
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> *source
[14:18] <mataks> ActionParsnip,  i find someone who write deep freeze script you might wanna check it out..  http://utux-utux.blogspot.com/2008/02/deepfreeze-for-linux-advance.html
[14:19] <LjL> mataks: a "restore" is not what deep freeze does. instead, it redirects writes to disk so that they don't actually happen.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> mataks: not someting i'm bothered for, i have data backups and file servers so my desktop can explode and i wouldnt care
[14:19] <Antagonist> This is propably a loaded question, but whats a good IDE for C++ development in ubuntu when moving from MS VS?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> mataks: there is no data on my desktop system and I can easily restore a system using my scripts after an install
[14:20] <erUSUL> Antagonist: anjuta; codeblocks; kdevelop ....
[14:21] <matteo1990> Here is my Pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/323347/
 mataks: there is no data on my desktop system and I can easily restore a system using my scripts after an install <-- nice.. got a script that restores system on boot?
[14:21] <[psyk]> So, I have an ASUS G60Vx gaming series laptop, and the recovery disks say they will only work on my PC. Now, I had a truecrypt disaster and lost the Truecrypt Recovery CD. If I wipe my HDD, will my recovery disks still work? Does anybody know how it checks that it's the specific machine?
[14:22] <paolob> Hi guys! a very strange thing: "ssh -X otherpc firefox" doesn't run the otherpc's firefox, but my computer's one. While "ssh -X otherpc epiphany" runs the otherpc's epiphany. What the hell is that?!?
[14:22] <IHS_Volunteer> I get the feeling restoring anything beyond the Home Folder would be rather tedious, and restoring the home folder would still delay boot a bit.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> mataks: no but you could make one to mount an iso and rsync the files from the iso to the system every boot, it will make your boot incredibly slow, but will work
[14:22] <[psyk]> paolob: why not just make a .sh file to do it for you?
[14:22] <LjL> IHS_Volunteer: not to mention the user won't be stopped from dd'ing the entire hard drive in the first place, something that deep freeze prevents
[14:23] <BLUE_BALLS> how come when i go to yahoo.com the url changes to m.yahoo.com?
[14:23] <suigeneris> would you recommend genisoimage or dd for creating an iso?
[14:23] <[psyk]> So, I have an ASUS G60Vx gaming series laptop, and the recovery disks say they will only work on my PC. Now, I had a truecrypt disaster and lost the Truecrypt Recovery CD. If I wipe my HDD, will my recovery disks still work? Does anybody know how it checks that it's the specific machine?
[14:23] <IHS_Volunteer> I can dd a deepfreeze'd HD. Requires a LiveCD, but I can still do it...
[14:23] <dooglus> suigeneris: dd can't make iso files
[14:23] <mataks> ActionParsnip,  thnx but i don't want to slow up my boot.. :)   i don't know how to make scripts anyway.. hehe
[14:23] <ravn1> hey ppl, I just installed te new ubuntu 9.10, it works as a charm, however aptitude now says a whole lot of packages were autoadded and are no more needed, it's things like obex sever, so I get a bit worried, should I let aptitude remove them?
[14:23] <suigeneris> BLUE_BALLS, that's how they set it up
[14:24] <suigeneris> ravn1, yes
[14:24] <BLUE_BALLS> suigeneris, why would they change the url?
[14:24] <ravn1> are you sure?!?
[14:24] <fasta> How do I unlock my keyring if I never set it up?
[14:24] <suigeneris> no idea BLUE_BALLS
[14:24] <suigeneris> ravn1, yes
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> mataks: good to learn, copying copius amount of data especially over SATA will take ages
[14:24] <suigeneris> dooglus, yes
[14:26] <khamer> Why does ubuntu use 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts and not just 127.0.0.1?
[14:26] <TuxOtaku> hey, so it's been a while now since the Karmic release....and I still haven't gotten a notice from update manager to upgrade.
[14:26] <TuxOtaku> any idea why?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> khamer: its an old bug, some softwares use it afaik
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:27] <[psyk]> TuxOtaku: Are other updates displayed?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: use http://pastebin.com   to give te output
[14:27] <TuxOtaku> [psyk], yep, normal updates to jaunty continue as they should
[14:27] <IHS_Volunteer> TuxOtaku, distrobution upgrades (such as jaunty to karmic) or are you trying to update an exisiting karmic install?
[14:28] <IHS_Volunteer> I think he has LTS updates only enabled
[14:28] <TuxOtaku> IHS_Volunteer, nope, I checked that already
[14:28] <fasta> How can I delete the "default keyring"?
[14:29] <fasta> My keyring manager doesn't even list a "default keyring".
[14:30] <fasta> I already tried the password for the login keyring, of course.
[14:30] <folliculated34> hi guys, performance on my ar5001 with ath5k is bad. madwifi and ndiswrapper just don't work. but on my friend's it works very very well... what could be the problem?
[14:31] <folliculated34> My AP's on WEP, Chan 13, and on 802.11b
[14:31] <TuxOtaku> and ActionParsnip nothing out of the ordinary from dist-upgrade pops up
[14:31] <TuxOtaku> just normal, everyday updates.
[14:32] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:32] <TuxOtaku> no new release found, cankoy
[14:32] <TuxOtaku> I've tried changing repositories as well
[14:32] <TuxOtaku> nuthin.
[14:33] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: is update-manager-core installed?
[14:33] <TuxOtaku> yup
[14:33] <rcaskey> hrmm, after upgrading I don't have a max/min button on my window frame, any clues? selecting a new theme changes the look but still no max/min buttons
[14:33] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: don't mess with the repo.s, they need to remain at Jaunty for upgrade to work
[14:34] <solomon> so I'm on karmic with three heads, and I wanted to move the status area from one head to the other, and i was silly enough to first remove it from one with the intention of adding it to the other rather than just doing 'move'.  now gnome-panel seems to be re-starting perpetually, making it impossible to actually use
[14:34] <renata> Can I newbie like me establish a SSH connection for data transfer between xubuntu and opensuse? I need to connect two laptops on the same network
[14:34] <TuxOtaku> cankoy, no no, I know that...I mean I've tried changing from say, the Canadian repos to the american ones
[14:34] <folliculated34_> rcaskey, metacity or compiz?
[14:34] <rcaskey> metacity
[14:34] <TuxOtaku> err...mirrors I should say, not repos
[14:34] <solomon> anybody got a suggestion of how to end this madness? :)
[14:34] <folliculated34_> renata, sure, why not? ssh (ip)
[14:35] <renata> folliculated34_, what does it take?
[14:35] <folliculated34_> rcaskey, I'm not sure where it is, but metacity's settings are somewhere in gconf-editor
[14:35] <SikEnCide> renata ssh can run an any operatin system out there.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: so upgraded 0 etc?
[14:35] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, aye.
[14:35] <TuxOtaku> well
[14:35] <TuxOtaku> no
[14:36] <folliculated34_> renata, ssh is the package name
[14:36] <renata> SikEnCide, thanks, i wish i knew where to start
[14:36] <TuxOtaku> it lists a couple of updates to gcc and such, I've done those
[14:36] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip,
[14:36] <TuxOtaku> The following packages have been kept back:
[14:36] <TuxOtaku>   dpkg-dev g++ lib32asound2 libc6-i386
[14:36]  * rcaskey goes on a hunch and checks to see if metacity's system-wide schema needs to be reintroduced into gconf
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: try launching software sources and make sure the release upgrade is set to normal: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ubuntu-linux-software-source.jpg
[14:37] <renata> folliculated34_, Ok, I will install it along with openssh-server. Is that right?
[14:37] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, dude I'm like 5 steps ahead of you
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: good :)
[14:38] <TuxOtaku> I've checked all this stuff already a dozen times
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[14:38] <TuxOtaku> sure, sec.
[14:38] <renata> folliculated34_, are there anymore packages I need to have to start process?
[14:38] <folliculated34_> the server I think is only for hosts, ssh is all you need to connect from ubuntu to suse
[14:38] <folliculated34_> renata, ssh only I think
[14:39] <pawel0411> Elo
[14:39] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, http://slexy.org/view/s2ybbUlr7h
[14:39] <pawel0411> elo
[14:39] <pawel0411> elo
[14:40] <pawel0411> widac moje posty?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: you dont have any of the ubuntu.com repos there
[14:40] <pawel0411> #ubuntu
[14:40] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, yes, those are ubuntu repos. the university of waterloo here in Ontario mirrors them
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: can you pastebin the output of: lsb_release -a
[14:41] <pawel0411> ,save
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: well not very well or you'd be getting lots of updates
[14:41] <renata> folliculated34_, sorry for bothering, I appreaciate your help. I would be glad if you could tell me what's next after install?
[14:41] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, I've tried switching back to the default mirrors. nothing happens.
[14:41] <TuxOtaku> nothing at all.
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <TuxOtaku> like I said, I've done all this crap before
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <FloodBot1> pawel0411: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: i suggest using the official repos. I can give you my sources file, it is karmic but all the repos have jaunty on them too
[14:41] <folliculated34_> renata, 'ssh (ip of host)'
[14:42] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, been there, done that. still no update.
[14:42] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: can you reach http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[14:42] <TuxOtaku> cankoy, yep
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: then i don't know what to suggest, try adding an extra repo, see if the updates come down.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: do you use vlc?
[14:42] <renata> folliculated34_, in terminal? is 'host' another computer I want to connect?
[14:42] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, what does VLC have to do with anything?
[14:43] <echelon_> yes, forums helped me get broadcom to work with 9.10
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: if we add the repo for vlc 1.0.3 and you run the updates, you should get the new version, showing that updates work
[14:43] <folliculated34_> renata, yes to both questions :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: think outside the box
[14:44] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, ok, gimme a sec, and I'll add it...I just had an idea
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: here is the repo to add: https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc
[14:44] <TuxOtaku> hah!!!
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: add that and its key and see if you get the update offered (assuming you have vlc 1.0.2 installed already)
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, can you recommend a tutorial for wifi setup in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> I just downloaded the upgrade tool manually and ran it as root
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> screw you, update manager! :P
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[14:45] <jrib> TuxOtaku: erm, "upgrade tool"?
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> jrib, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-proposed/main/dist-upgrader-all/0.126.9/karmic.tar.gz
[14:45] <desperate> Does anyone know how I 'point' my IM client empathy to IRC.FREENODE.NET:6667
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> :)
[14:45] <NeoCicak> i believe i'm not the only one who complain that 9.10 is a lot slower than 9.04, without getting any response from ubuntu team?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> jrib: +1
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: thats how i do it
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: runs fine here, is your system fairly fast or is it like mine and a dinosaur
[14:46] <renata> folliculated34_, did that, but nothing really happened...
[14:46] <jrib> TuxOtaku: sounds like a great way to break things :)
[14:47] <dalfz> i need to apply a patch to wine and recompile, how do i do this with in conjuction with the package system?
[14:47] <M4K4V3l1> hi all
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> jrib: scarey stuff
[14:47] <jrib> !source | dalfz
[14:47] <TuxOtaku> jrib, well, we'll see won't we
[14:47] <dalfz> thanks
[14:47] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: its fairly fast......... and it was ok with 9.04... btw..... its just the boot up time that is ridiculously slow....... and logging in to gnome is like talking to my grandma
[14:47] <M4K4V3l1> I have a problem with my ldap server
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: if it works then great
[14:47] <wesley_> any here who has experience with remote distance controle
[14:47] <TuxOtaku> if it does, f*** it, I'm moving to opensuse.
[14:47] <M4K4V3l1> I just can't start it
[14:47] <TuxOtaku> :P
[14:47] <wesley_> vnc
[14:47] <jrib> dalfz: before rebuilding, apply the patch and increment the version number using "dch -i" and append something like "~dalfz1" to the version
[14:47] <jrib> TuxOtaku: better to actually fix the issue
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: some have said that, its meant to be sped / speeded (never worked that one out and I'm english) up though
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: have a read through:   dmesg | less     and note the time on the left side, big gaps show you where problems are
[14:48] <dalfz> jrib, thanks, trying
[14:48] <folliculated34_> renata, what exactly happened?
[14:48] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: really? is there some sort of doco that explains how to do this 'speed up' ?
[14:48] <TuxOtaku> jrib, true enough. chalk it up to impatience if you like.
[14:49] <jcrawford> hey guys is there an easy way to get OpenJDK off the system and Sun's JDK on the system?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: not sure, i havent dug around that way much as i just let it do its thing
[14:49] <jrib> !multijava | jcrawford
[14:49] <jrib> !java > jcrawford
[14:49] <jcrawford> thanks
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: slow boot can definately be diagnosed with dmes though
[14:49] <jcrawford> well i would want the JDK not just the JRE
[14:50] <renata> folliculated34_, another line appeared
[14:50] <jrib> jcrawford: same directions, just install the right sun- package
[14:50] <jrib> !info sun-java6-jdk
[14:50] <jcrawford> usage: update-java-alternatives [--jre-headless] [--jre] [--plugin] [ -t|--test|
[14:50]  * archet45 FREAKING LOVES ubuntu/linux :)
[14:51] <folliculated34_> renata, a blank line or the prompt?
[14:51] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: hmmm... authenticating with wlan0
[14:51] <jrib> jcrawford: -l will list what is available to you (I'm guessing you didn't paste the whole usage line)
[14:51] <Antagonist> Whats the difference between apt-get and synaptic package manager?  Is the latter just a GUI of the former or is there more to it?
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [   53.074910] hdaps: driver successfully loaded.
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.526024] wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:0f:b5:54:f3:68
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.528582] wlan0: authenticated
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.528585] wlan0: associate with AP 00:0f:b5:54:f3:68
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.535881] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:0f:b5:54:f3:68 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1)
[14:51] <FloodBot4> NeoCicak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <maveas> Antagonist: Yep
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: don't flood dude, use pastebin
[14:51] <jcrawford> yep all set reading the webpage now :) thanks jrib
[14:51] <maveas> Antagonist: Not a GUI of the former..
[14:51] <renata> folliculated34_, the line where I can enter another command
[14:52] <mikebeecham> hi guys, I've uninstalled pulseaudio in the hopes of trying to resolve a sound issue.  I want to go back to ALSA for a while, but dont know what to install in the repos...can anyone point me in the right direction?
[14:52] <jrib> Antagonist: they are both frontends to APT.  One is a gui, the other is a cli
[14:52] <maveas> Antagonist: Sorry
[14:52] <Antagonist> maveas: Okay, so if I want to install application xyz, how do I go about it?
[14:52] <jrib> !software > Antagonist
[14:52] <folliculated34_> renata, hmm...
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: looks like your wifi driver is slowing down the show, you can run:   sudo lshw -C network   to find the chip and find some guides to get you righted
[14:52] <maveas> Antagonist: Pretty easy.. if you're a noob open up Synaptic and search for the app..
[14:52] <Antagonist> That should do it ta
[14:53] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: hmmm.. this doesnt happen in 9.04 though......
[14:53] <renata> folliculated34_, I am on xubuntu, not ubuntu, btw
[14:53] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: and it is slow only on cold login..
[14:53] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: i.e. if i log out now, and log back in.. its quite snappy
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: different kernel dude, may even be a bug with the module it uses
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: 9.04 uses 9.04 kernel and 9.04 kernel modules, karmic uses a different kernel and modules
[14:54] <folliculated34_> renata, what about 'ssh (username)@(ip of host)'?
[14:54] <IHS_Volunteer> mikebeecham, ALSA is a dependancy of Pulseaudio, but removing pulse audio doesn't remove alsa. So you already have ALSA, though the 9.10 GUI doesn't include controls for it by default
[14:55] <jcrawford> what's it mean when i get errors like this?: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for mozilla-javaplugin.so.
[14:55] <renata> folliculated34_, the same...
[14:55] <jrib> jcrawford: just means you don't have any package providing a java plugin
[14:55] <dalfz> uh, when i grab something with apt-get source, what path can i find the source in?
[14:56] <jrib> dalfz: cwd
[14:56] <jcrawford> jrib, so will this default switch not work?
[14:56] <jrib> jcrawford: it will still change the rest of the alternatives
[14:56] <mikebeecham> IHS_Volunteer: thanks for that.  So, how do I revert back to the sound option that came prior to the upgrade to Karmic?
[14:56] <folliculated34_> renata, sorry, I don't know... do you have the ssh server/host on the host?
[14:57] <jcrawford> ok and once default is changed can i remove the openjdk or should i leave it installed?  I ask because when i went to remove it said it was also going to remove default-jdk
[14:57] <M4K4V3l1> I think that slapd package is buggy in Ubuntu hardy
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> M4K4V3l1: log a bug then
[14:57] <jrib> jcrawford: you can leave it or remove it, doesn't really matter
[14:57] <jcrawford> ok
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> !bug | M4K4V3l1
[14:58] <dalfz> jrib, sorry, what do you mean 'cwd' ?
[14:58] <jrib> dalfz: current working directory
[14:58] <renata> folliculated34_, I guess so, btw, Ive managed to connect this machine (xubuntu 9.10) from opensuse, Ive typed sftp://(ip of this machine/ in nautilus.
[14:58] <dalfz> jrib, aha :)
[14:59] <wesley_> does anyone know howto make vnc  server client work
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: do you mean the server or the client?
[14:59] <folliculated34_> renata, I don't really know why, sorry.
[15:00] <renata> folliculated34_, thanks for you help
[15:00] <fasta> Which package contains boost/shared_ptr.hpp? My apt-file doesn't work on karmic.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: theres a good guide here for vino: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[15:01] <wesley_> i mean the server  well i know you can use tsclient but what i don't get is  in all manuals of youtube they talk about  192.168.X.X ip but that is a intern lan ip
[15:01] <jcrawford> how can i find out where the Sun Java 6 JDK was installed to?  I need the path to specify for NetBeans
[15:02] <jrib> jcrawford: dpkg -L PACKAGE
[15:02] <jcrawford> thanks
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: if you are using VNC over web, DEFIANTELY use an ssh tunnel. VNC has zero security
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: the transmission is not encrypted so transmissions can be captured
[15:03] <hlp> I'm having trouble with /usr/local/man : I can't cd into it or write to it (as root)
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: also you will need to port forward the various ports from your router to the system running the server to get the connection
[15:03] <jrib> hlp: why do you want to?
[15:03] <hlp> perl make install
[15:03] <wesley_> yes i  did read somthing about that so my friends computer has  sudo apt-get install done
[15:04] <inivex> wesley_: i think you should reconsider making a vnc server accessible to the world on standard ports...
[15:04] <jrib> hlp: what?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> hlp: i just did with cd /usr/local/man; sudo cp <some file> .
[15:04] <wesley_> also a x11vnc -storepasswd
[15:04] <jcrawford> thanks for all the help jrib
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: you need to configure the router to allow the traffic, or it will drop it due to the firewalling nature of nat
[15:05] <jrib> jcrawford: no problem
[15:05] <munzir> Hi, if I used gdm to boot kubuntu, no reboot or shutdown buttons on the menu! why?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | wesley_
[15:05] <wesley_> they told me not to open the 5900 port but use ssh
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: use an ssh tunnel for security, the guide shows how to set it up
[15:06] <wesley_> we both use a router to acces the internet
[15:06] <wesley_> so we both have a internal ip adress
[15:07] <hullo> I had vnc's default vnc server running without password auth on w auto configiure network checked and I watched someone login
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: if you are on the same network it is ok, if you are connecting to the other router via the web then use ssh
[15:07] <hullo> my router isn't even fwding 5900
[15:07] <hlp> jrib: I mean perl Makefile.PL; make ; make install
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: you will need to connect to the WAN IP of the other router (can be found out if the server side visits http://www.ipchicken.com)
[15:08] <folliculated34_> hmm... rdesktop or *VNC?
[15:08] <ceekays> Hie there!
[15:08] <ceekays> I am using Ubuntu 9.04, I have installed BDDesigner 4 on wine-1.0.1. I am failing to connect to my databases. What might be the problem?
[15:08] <Antagonist> Hmm, I'm planning on dual-booting ubuntu and gentoo.  Is there any good way to have them share downloaded files to prevent me from downloading the same app twice for each OS?
[15:08] <mclur3> I have a shitty ati radeon 1250 card. ok performance in 9.10 but not in 9.04. due to the newer kernel? possible to fix the issue in 9.04?
[15:08] <hullo> forgot to identify heh
[15:09] <jrib> hlp: pastebin your commands and the full output.  Usually people install from the repositories or CPAN though.  Are you sure your library isn't in the repositories?
[15:09] <hlp> ActionParsnip: I know, it works on other systems
[15:09] <hlp_> ActionParsnip: I know, it works on other systems
[15:09] <jrib> erm
[15:10] <carl-m> the numeric keypad does not work in a terminal. I an fix this with xmodmap, but is there some hidden preference somewhere that will fix it automatically?
[15:10] <IdleOne> ceekays: try #winehq
[15:10] <ceekays> thanks
[15:10] <hlp_> jrib: when I download the perl modules and download them by hand, they still don't work
[15:10] <hlp_> I'm really thinking the problem is with linux, not perl
[15:10] <hlp_> at least on my machine
[15:10] <mitsos> irc://irc.rizon.net:6667/tzatziki-fansubs
[15:10] <hlp_> since I can't write to it as root
[15:11] <jrib> hlp_: you managed to answer either of my two questions :)
[15:11] <xae8koo> How do I know if my swap is working?
[15:11] <jrib> *neither*
[15:11] <folliculated34_> so guys, what's better in your opinion... VNC or rdesktop?
[15:11] <Antagonist> OSS'es always come in at least two's, don't they?
[15:11] <folliculated34_> Antagonist, just mount them
[15:12] <mitsos>  	#tzatziki-fansubs@irc.rizon.net
[15:12] <mitsos> #tzatziki-fansubs@irc.rizon.net
[15:12] <Antagonist> folliculated34_: I mean, can I just setup Ubuntu to use source code, and point it to gentoo's downloaded source code directory?  And if its not there it will download it?
[15:13] <mitsos>  	#animeclipse@irc.rizon.net
[15:13] <mitsos> #animeclipse@irc.rizon.net
[15:14] <folliculated34_> Antagonist, wait... I thought you meant compiled binaries from upstream, the kind that comes in tarballs?
[15:14] <cankoy> xae8koo: gnome-system-monitor
[15:14] <fasta> How can I get my nvidia card to work on Karmic?
[15:14] <xae8koo> cankoy: It nevers says I use any swap...
[15:15] <xae8koo> cankoy: 0 bytes of 8,3 GiB
[15:15] <thiebaude> fasta, system-administration-hardware drivers
[15:15] <Will123456> fasta: do you mean you want the proprietary nvidia drivers to work for your card?
[15:15] <Antagonist> folliculated34_: Would gentoo portagepackages  and ubuntu packages even be interchangable?  I'm not so sure
[15:15] <folliculated34_> Antagonist, ubuntu's packages have ubuntu and debian specific patches... they most likely won't work on geentoo
[15:15] <BluesKaj> fasta, which nvidia card?
[15:15] <fasta> Will123456, yes.
[15:15] <fasta> BluesKaj, 8800 something
[15:15] <jrib> hlp_: do you know what you have to do?
[15:15] <bostikforever> what is the use of the alternate cd?
[15:16] <cankoy> xae8koo: ... of 8.3 Gb  <- so you have swap on
[15:16] <bostikforever> can it be used for recovery?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> fasta, in the terminal : lspci | grep VGA
[15:16] <hlp_> jrib: I don't
[15:16] <xae8koo> cankoy: Yes, 8,3 GiB of swap, but none of it is used
[15:16] <cankoy> xae8koo: you have lot of RAM, and the system does not need to swap anything. That's good.
[15:16] <fasta> BluesKaj,  lspci | grep VGA
[15:17] <jrib> hlp_: pastebin your commands and the full output.  Usually people install from the repositories or CPAN though.  Are you sure your library isn't in the repositories?
[15:17] <thiebaude> !swap
[15:17] <fasta> BluesKaj, [GeForce 8800 GT]
[15:17] <xae8koo> cankoy: No, I could only afford 4 GiB for my laptop:(
[15:17] <catmando> hey question: i've added an nfs share to /etc/fstab with the user option turned on
[15:18] <catmando> but i still get an "only root can do that" error
[15:18] <flexxxv> hello, why I was sent to this ubuntu proxy channel (i'm not using _any_ proxy)
[15:19] <jrib> flexxxv: aren't you using the webchat?
[15:19] <flexxxv> is that a proxy?
[15:19] <DJones> catmando: How are you editing /etc/fstab? you need to use the sudo or gksudo prefix, eg sudo nano /etc/fstab or gksudo gedit /etc/fstab to give you admin access to the /etc folder
[15:19] <jrib> flexxxv: yes
[15:19] <flexxxv> ok
[15:19] <bostikforever> what is the use of the alternate cd?
[15:19] <bostikforever> can it be used for recovery?
[15:19] <jrib> !alternate | bostikforever
[15:19] <flexxxv> what is the easiest  way to downrgrade grub2 in a not working ubuntu wubi enviroment?
[15:20] <flexxxv> live cd, chrott and then?
[15:20] <cankoy> xae8koo: you have lot of RAM *compared to what you're running and their requirements*, hence nothing swaps out yet.
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> I need help getting sound drivers
[15:20] <fasta> BluesKaj, yes?
[15:20] <xae8koo> cankoy: Guess I need something new to run then :)
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> i need help getting sound drivers
[15:21] <catmando> DJones, sudo
[15:21] <bostikforever> thanks
[15:21] <catmando> DJones, it's definitely saved, if that's what you're asking
[15:21] <cankoy> xae8koo: if you want to stress test.. there're other ways
[15:21] <isojussi> http://pastebin.com/m3bd37c2c, my ubuntu upgrade wen't wrong somehow. when running from live cd apt-get upgrade I get that error. any help?
[15:21] <flexxxv> after loop mounting imagefile and chroot to it, can I use apt-get ?
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> marchingknight11: what do you wanna use? ALSA/OSS etc
[15:21] <space_cadet> i can't play FLV files
[15:21] <space_cadet> at all
[15:21] <thiebaude> !flv
[15:21] <DJones> catmando: Thats what I was wondering, I thought you meant you couldn't save the amended fstab file
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> space_cadet: what media player are you using?
[15:22] <space_cadet> DJones,    don't work
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: i dont know what to use, i just want to get my sound working
[15:22] <space_cadet> aeon-ltd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8354217#post8354217
[15:22] <Dnrock> http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6034/screenshottu.png << the Nexuig Game will be loss if i remove there files ???
[15:22] <mind_eraser> I'm having some trouble with hibernate on 9.04 on a Lenovo g530, which used to work just fine. The error I was originally getting was not enough swap, looking into it it appeared that my system was no longer recognizing my 6G swap partition, only seeing 8M of it, most of which were used. I recreated the partition using mkswap and swapon etc (I could go into more detail on this if needed - the upshot is that according to top it is
[15:22] <mind_eraser> being recognized now). The problem is I still can't hibernate. It appears to go into a normal hibernation but on restart none of my running apps return. I can't think of where to check now. Any ideas?
[15:22] <aeon-ltd> Marchingknight11: do a sudo apt-get alsa then do alsamixer and use arrow keys and 'M' to configure
[15:23] <mind_eraser> Sorry for the flood post
[15:23] <space_cadet> Reading state information... Done
[15:23] <space_cadet> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[15:23] <triptec> my ubuntu 9.10 changes ip even though I got iface eth0 inet static and address, netmask, gateway in my interfaces file. The ip seems to come from my dhcp.. any idea why?
[15:23] <thiebaude> space_cadet, you try medibuntu?
[15:23] <Marchingknight11> alsamixer is already installed
[15:23] <xae8koo> mind_eraser: I have a Lenovo G550 :D
[15:23] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: alsamixer is already installed
[15:23] <space_cadet> thiebaude, yes i have
[15:23] <M4K4V3l1> is there someone pro in openLdap ?
[15:24] <flexxxv> in chroot do i have network? is apt-get just working?
[15:24] <M4K4V3l1> I got some beginner problems here
[15:24] <mind_eraser> xae8koo: Not a bad machine, eh? Is your hibernate working?
[15:24] <blackxored> Hi, pidgin isn't showing in indicator-applet, anyone with similar behaviour has found a workaround for this?
[15:24] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: what's the trouble?
[15:25] <xae8koo> mind_eraser: No idea
[15:25] <aeon-ltd> Marchingknight11: open a terminal and type alsamixer and use the arrow keys to change settings
[15:25] <xae8koo> mind_eraser: It is a bit noisy
[15:25] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: what settings do i have to change
[15:25] <Marchingknight11> ?
[15:25] <fasta> thiebaude, that also doesn't work with a proxy.
[15:25] <space_cadet> so anyone have any answers as to why i cannot play FLV files in Karmic?
[15:25] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: thank you for answering.. everything is pasted here : http://paste.debian.net/51978/
[15:25] <gijzelaar> question: does anybody know a ubuntu alternative for the mac 'open' command? Open a file/directory with the default file handler in gnome
[15:25] <fasta> I will just get them of the nvidia website.
[15:25] <Marchingknight11> everything is maxed out and nothing is muted
[15:25] <catmando> DJones, no, the file is definitely saved, it just doesn't seem to work
[15:25] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: in summary the problem is simply that I can't run slapd
[15:25] <folliculated34_> gijzelaar, gnome-open
[15:26] <flexxxv> space_cadet  instal some codecs?
[15:26] <mind_eraser>  xae8koo haha ok
[15:26] <gijzelaar> GREAT
[15:26] <xae8koo> Nov 20 16:24:21 xae8koo-laptop dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[15:26] <gijzelaar> yes that is what I want, thanks! :)
[15:26] <rhsanborn> join #java
[15:26] <space_cadet> flexxxv, i did.
[15:26] <xae8koo> Why wont it let me dhcp start?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> fasta, like thiebaude said earlier ,  system-administration-hardware drivers , make sure you choose the nvidia-glx-185
[15:26] <flexxxv> space_cadet  instal or just try vlc?
[15:26] <thiebaude> fasta, did you have ubuntu search for the drivers?
[15:26] <DJones> catmando: How are you testing whether it restarts?
[15:26] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: select the bars and press up and ,max out all bars and if they show MM press 'm'
[15:26] <thiebaude> i have almost the same card, fasta
[15:26] <flexxxv> get more odecs from mediabuntu
[15:26] <thiebaude> its easy
[15:26] <fasta> BluesKaj, I already did. IT DOESN'T WORK, BECAUSE UBUNTU DEVELOPERS IGNORE PROXIES.
[15:27] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: eveything is maxed and nothing is muted
[15:27] <DJones> catmando: Sorry, I mean how are you testing whether the nfs folder is mounted
[15:27] <BluesKaj> fasta, what has proxies got to do with it ?
[15:27] <space_cadet> flexxxv, would if i could but apparently i cannot
[15:27] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, exactly 185 driver recommended
[15:27] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: well I'm not sure what slapd is, but you're having permissions problems
[15:27] <catmando> DJones, it works when i do it as root
[15:27] <fasta> BluesKaj, well, tjee, what might the purpose be?
[15:28] <hlp> jrib: here's the perl output http://paste.ubuntu.com/323419/
[15:28] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: right?
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: press F6 and try another sound card
[15:28] <space_cadet> flexxxv, http://pastebin.com/m15977250
[15:28] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: everything is chmod 777 now
[15:28] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: what version are you using and how clean is it?
[15:28] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: F6 doesnt do anything
[15:28] <flexxxv> you typed: apt-get install vlc?
[15:29] <hlp> jrib: and here's the somewhat cryptic output when I try to cd or mkdir in /usr/local : http://paste.ubuntu.com/323420/
[15:29] <space_cadet> yes
[15:29] <space_cadet> i sure did
[15:29] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, any idea what he/she means ...I'm clueless
[15:29] <space_cadet> and that's what i got
[15:29] <flexxxv> space_cadet: tried apt-get update?
[15:29] <space_cadet> no i'm retarded, i never update before an install
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: do the speakers work in another OS?
[15:29] <space_cadet> ^^ sarcasm
[15:29] <Marchingknight11> yes in windows
[15:29] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd:yes in windows 7
[15:29] <flexxxv> try it
[15:29] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, no, and i though ubuntu notifies you when drivers are ready to install, like it did for me
[15:30] <JonathanEllis> I have a HP C7710A connected to the computer with USB. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron. x-sane detects the scanner as a 7400c:002. When I try to acquire a preview, x restarts
[15:30] <blackxored> pidgin doesn't show at indicator-applet, do you guys know why?
[15:30] <thiebaude> thats the first thing i install after a clean install
[15:30] <xae8koo> I'm planning on using my Asus EEE as an server. To use for bittorrent. Is that a good idea? It has 1gb ram and 800mhz cpu.
[15:30] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I mean your OS, not slapd
[15:30] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, problem solved , he left :)
[15:31] <flexxxv> space_cadet: if you get errors poste them
[15:31] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, ahh, ok
[15:31] <space_cadet> heh heh heh
[15:31] <space_cadet> [swf @ 0x8b75400]Compressed SWF format not supported
[15:31] <space_cadet> [0x8b93a90] avformat demux error: av_open_input_stream failed
[15:31] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: I understand the solid state drive may take a hammering if you do that
[15:31] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: what sound card does it say you have in alsamixer
[15:31] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: I am running ubuntu server TLS "hardy".. the slapd version is : @(#) $OpenLDAP: slapd 2.4.9 (Mar 31 2009 07:12:16) $
[15:31] <M4K4V3l1> 	buildd@rothera:/build/buildd/openldap2.3-2.4.9/debian/build/servers/slapd
[15:31] <space_cadet> so again.... anyone know why i can't play FLV files in Karmic?  Even with VLC?
[15:31] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd:HDA Intel
[15:31] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: I am planning to use external drives for the files... The ssd just for the os.
[15:32] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: Chip is REaltek ALC268
[15:32] <bazhang> M4K4V3l1, debian?
[15:32] <M4K4V3l1> bazhang: no it's ubuntu
[15:32] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: Anyway, why are you using a netbook as a server?
[15:32] <flexxxv> which ubuntu?
[15:32] <flexxxv> any extra sources?
[15:32] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: it jumped of my table and broke the screen.
[15:33] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: Is it still under warranty?
[15:33] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: hardy : 8.04
[15:33] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: Beside, it is small, quiet and uses little power. No warranty.
[15:33] <M4K4V3l1> server version
[15:33] <xrfang> if I export an environment variable, it will be effective only for my current shell, how can I make it system wide effective (without reboot, i.e. not that I don't know to put it in /etc/profile or /etc/rc.local)
[15:33] <flexxxv> post output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:33] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I don't think my knowledge of permissions can help you in this case, except you could check in users-admin and be sure your root (or maybe user?) has access to relevant devices
[15:33] <rgr> JonathanEllis: I great idea for an underpowered machine like that. Would make a great bittorrent server for him to download.
[15:34] <kb3cda> Morning all, ne1 know of a good ANSI capable telnet client for Ubuntu?
[15:34] <flexxxv> M4K4V3l1:are you sure your flv isn't corrupted?
[15:34] <space_cadet> so... no one has the answer to my FLV problems?
[15:34] <thiebaude> bbl
[15:34] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: You might be able to get a replacement screen on Ebay. Well if its bust already then I suppose you have nothing to lose. Bittorrent doesnt place a particularly high load on the processor so why not
[15:34] <space_cadet> yes i'm sure.
[15:34] <space_cadet> i can play them in windows
[15:34] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, libavcodec from where?
[15:34] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: it's not a problem persmission : I fix it with : chmod 777
[15:34] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: sorry out of ideas, have you searched ubuntuwiki?
[15:34] <paschu> HEY GUYS
[15:34] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd:thanks anyway
[15:34] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: what ?
[15:34] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: I just bougth a faster laptop instead. Netbook was starting to go on my nerves :P
[15:35] <paschu> Is there a working nintendo 64 emulator? mupen64plus has sum problems with the sound
[15:35] <flexxxv> M4K4V3l1: what is in your sources.list?
[15:35] <space_cadet> folliculated34_,  huh?
[15:35] <IHS_Volunteer> sum problems? does it also have remainder and product problems, paschu?
[15:36] <paschu> IHS_Volunteer: what?
[15:36] <folliculated34_> I don't think the libavcodec from the official ubuntu repositories plays mp4-aac (or whatever audio codecs most flv's come with now)
[15:36] <flexxxv> M4K4V3l1: try to open youtube link to see if that works
[15:36] <IHS_Volunteer> paschu, sum= the result of addition.
[15:36] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, I don't think the libavcodec from the official ubuntu repositories plays mp4-aac (or whatever audio codecs most flv's come with now)
[15:36] <space_cadet> well if it were an actual package.
[15:36] <space_cadet> E: Couldn't find package libavcodec
[15:36] <folliculated34_> libavcodec52
[15:36] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: deb http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[15:36] <M4K4V3l1> deb-src http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[15:36] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: Fair enough. Well, nothing to stop you then. And as you say its low powered so it probably doesnt matter if you leave it on 24/7. I dont know if that might cause over-heating problems or death of the battery through overcharging as I dont think those machines are designed to be left on 24/7 but hey what do you have to lose?
[15:36] <paschu> I dont know what you mean, but i need a working n64 emulator
[15:37] <space_cadet> libavcodec52 is already the newest version.
[15:37] <IHS_Volunteer> paschu, I was mocking your incorrect spelling.
[15:37] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, where did you get it?
[15:37] <mind_eraser> Can anyone help me with a hibernation problem? I posted a pretty thorough description not long ago, but don't want to flood the channel again unless needed
[15:37] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: you talk with the wrong person.. I have a problem with openldap.. not flash plugging
[15:37] <IHS_Volunteer> I guess it went over your head. :(
[15:37] <M4K4V3l1> :S
[15:37] <Zane2> if an app locks up and it is in full screen, how can i get back to the desktop?
[15:37] <flexxxv> i'm sorry
[15:37] <JordanC> paschu: Project64 works, but that's windows only, I believe
[15:37] <flexxxv> your username must be similar...
[15:37] <space_cadet> folliculated34_, well since it was set to manually installed after i tried to install it, prolly the reg repos
[15:38] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I see: "/etc/ldap/slapd.conf: line 41: invalid path: Permission denied" have you looked in that .conf?
[15:38] <jrib> Zane2: ctrl-alt-f1 should get you to tty1
[15:38] <pianolender> hello everybody! where am I supposed to search for the kernel file in ubuntu livecd?
[15:38] <JordanC> In fact, pj64 works pretty flawlessly
[15:38] <IHS_Volunteer> Zane2, worst case scenario you hit ctrl+alt+F1 and log in and use pkill application_name
[15:38] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes and it works fine in another server.. it's too similar
[15:38] <kb3cda> Anyone know of a good ANSI capable telnet client for Ubuntu?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | space_cadet , check this out
[15:38] <JonathanEllis> mind_eraser: If you dont want to flood the channel, post a one-line summary of your problem here with a link to all the details on pastebin.com
[15:38] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, try the one from medibuntu... add it to your sources.list first
[15:39] <ccooke> kb3cda: not the command line 'telnet' command, then?
[15:39] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, folliculated34_ i did that
[15:39] <JonathanEllis> pianolender: Should be in /boot
[15:39] <paschu> guys, i need a well working nintendo 64 emulator
[15:39] <Zane2> IHS_Volunteer how do i do this?
[15:39] <pianolender> linux-zh1u:/media/Ubuntu           # ls
[15:39] <pianolender> autorun.inf  dists     md5sum.txt  preseed             wubi.exe
[15:39] <pianolender> casper       install   pics        README.diskdefines
[15:39] <pianolender> .disk        isolinux  pool        ubuntu
[15:39] <pianolender> linux-zh1u:/media/Ubuntu           #
[15:39] <Zane2> this is all new to me
[15:39] <FloodBot4> pianolender: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:39] <kb3cda> ccooke: right, looking for a client to handle BBS telnet
[15:39] <riegersn> how do i check what graphics driver my karmic install is using
[15:39] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, try vlc , it plays flv files
[15:39] <xae8koo> DHCP won't work, can someone help me?
[15:39] <pianolender>  FloodBot4: sorry)
[15:39] <mind_eraser> JonathanEllis: ah, wasn't aware of such a thing. Thanks! I think I'm going to take this to a forum however
[15:39] <folliculated34_> what about reinstalling? apt-get purge then apt-get install... you might need to apt-get clean first to make sure you don't get the old one.
[15:40] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, no it doesnt
[15:40] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, what about reinstalling? apt-get purge then apt-get install... you might need to apt-get clean first to make sure you don't get the old one.
[15:40] <ccooke> kb3cda: the command line will do that, but there are explicit mud clients that might be better for you
[15:40] <Zane2> im now at a prompt and i want to get back to the desktop, do i have to reboot?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, , mine does
[15:40] <JonathanEllis> paschu: Try searching through synaptic or add/remove programs
[15:40] <ccooke> kb3cda: gnome-mud might be worth a try
[15:40] <paschu> all games and other programs thta need 3d graphics are lagging. The sound is lagging
[15:40] <folliculated34_> Zane2, if "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" fails I guess so
[15:40] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, but if you insist on not trying new plugins , that's up to you
[15:41] <IHS_Volunteer> Zane2, hit ctrl+alt+F1 on a computer this should take you to a command line interface. using "top" will show running processes. ctrl+c will exit out of that. use pkill application_name to kill the offending process.(like firefox) (alt+F7 takes you back to the GUI)
[15:41] <folliculated34_> Zane2, wait... ctrl+alt+f7?
[15:41] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/m4591c40b
[15:41] <JonathanEllis> paschu: Or even google "ubuntu n64 emulator" or the full name of whatever an n64 is
[15:41] <kb3cda> ccooke: I'll give gnome-mud a try, thanks
[15:41] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, i am not insisting on not trying new plugins....   I HAVE TRIED NEW PLUGINS
[15:41] <IHS_Volunteer> Nintendo 64, JonathanD
[15:41] <space_cadet> what don't you get
[15:41] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: so you have the same configuration on two servers with identical hardware?
[15:41] <IHS_Volunteer> Er, JonathanEllis *
[15:42] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: do you think that it can be a problem hardware ?
[15:42] <M4K4V3l1> they are different, HP and olivetti
[15:42] <paschu> why are all programs that need 3d graphic lagging???
[15:42] <folliculated34_> paschu, bad drivers?
[15:42] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I don't actually know, but you say the same configuration is being used in both, and something has to be off somewhere
[15:43] <paschu> folliculated34_: where to download drivers?
[15:43] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes that's it
[15:43] <IHS_Volunteer> Interesting..LTSP booted systems, using localapps Firefox....and the Pentium 2 @366mhz decodes flash videos better than a Pentium3 @ 600mhz, both with 128MB of RAM..
[15:43] <pianolender> folliculated34_: alt+F7 is enough
[15:43] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: do you have immediate access to the other one to compare differences?
[15:44] <ooaaaoo> anybody here familiar with empathy?
[15:44] <dooglus> anyone know of a tool to rip hidden tracks from an audio CD?
[15:44] <JonathanEllis> I have a problem with an HP Scanjet C7710A. x-sane detects it as a 7400c:002. When I try to acquire a preview scan, x restarts. I am running Hardy Heron.
[15:44] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes
[15:44] <space_cadet> so people get the right idea, and don't tell me to do stuff i already have done....
[15:44] <IHS_Volunteer> ooaaaoo, get to the real question.
[15:44] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: I am using both by ssh
[15:44] <folliculated34_> dooglus, sometimes hidden tracks are just in the last song.
[15:45] <dooglus> folliculated34_: I know.  but in this case they're before the first song
[15:45] <space_cadet> why can't i play FLV files, with anything... even with the medibuntu codecs installed.   I cannot play flv files with VLC even
[15:45] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: a debug output from the working one may be worth a second look
[15:45] <ooaaaoo> IHS_Volunteer: how do i configure empathy to work with gnome's environment proxy?
[15:45] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: ok
[15:45] <Boohbah> ooaaaoo: this should happen automatically
[15:45] <folliculated34_> dooglus, ok, sry, I don't know how to do that.
[15:45] <dooglus> folliculated34_: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:PBryan/cd2flac#Description can do it, but it's command line only, and not in an official package
[15:45] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: If a cd player plays them, they are not hidden. How does the CD player access them?
[15:46] <ooaaaoo> no, when i apply any "system wide" proxy settings empathy doesnt react
[15:46] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: some CD players will access it if I hit the 'back' button from track 1; some won't
[15:46] <cellofellow> how do I boot my Ubuntu LiveCD on a Mac? There some trick to it?
[15:46] <Boohbah> ooaaaoo: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22250/
[15:46] <riegersn> how do i check what graphics driver my karmic install is using
[15:47] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: They may be recorded as track zero. If you browse the CD, does it show a track zero? Come to that, does your CD ripping program?
[15:47] <lengend> how do you get "libmimic"??
[15:47] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: AHH... thanks...it doesnt support proxies
[15:47] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I never used a cd ripping program.  which do you recommend?
[15:47] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: guess its back to good ol gaim
[15:47] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: What happens when you put the CD in your computer?
[15:47] <whammo> I'm trying to set up twinview in 9.10, does anybody know of new pitfalls in 9.10 I should be aware of as far as xorg.conf goes?
[15:48] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: nothing
[15:48] <xae8koo> Why doesn't spotify work in ubuntu 9.10?
[15:48] <Boohbah> ooaaaoo: it would appear so. empathy is relatively new i believe. the features will come :)
[15:48] <space_cadet> nope still don't work
[15:48] <space_cadet> still cant play flv files
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> xae8koo: can you expand on "doesnt work"
[15:48] <diogo_79> hi guys
[15:48] <xae8koo> ActionParsnip: It laggs and then freezes
[15:48] <xae8koo> Almost instantly
[15:48] <space_cadet> heh go figure
[15:48] <xae8koo> I can browse songs and shit
[15:48] <space_cadet> i can play the flv files in firefox
[15:48] <xae8koo> But not play
[15:48] <space_cadet> but nothing else
[15:48] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: I think Sound Juicer used to come by default with Ubuntu. Do you get an audio cd desktop icon? If you right click on it, it may give you choices there
[15:49] <diogo_79> i am having a problem with flash plugin on ubuntu 9.04 64 bits
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> xae8koo: ok launch it from a terminal, watch the output when it does
[15:49] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: It used to, not with 9.10
[15:49] <Will123456> xae8koo: it works fine for me on fedora 11. for what it's worth :P
[15:49] <diogo_79> i have the plugin install but is not working
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !info spotify
[15:49] <diogo_79> dont know why
[15:49] <Will123456> spotify is an external program, actionparsnip
[15:49] <diogo_79> can someone help me debug this please
[15:49] <Will123456> he'll be running it through wine
[15:49] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: its got a clean interface, but takes some getting used to
[15:50] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: like the lack of pluggins
[15:50] <isojussi> how i can force install package, when dpkg says it will broke other package?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: gotcha
[15:50] <folliculated34_> isojussi, -f
[15:50] <Will123456> I've found spotify to be slightly dodgy- sometimes not working for a while, sometimes working perfectly. i'm going to ask a patronising question but you've restarted etc. etc., right xae8koo? :P
[15:50] <space_cadet> Can someone explain why....    I CAN play flv files(from my disk) in firefox   but NOT in anything else.
[15:50] <IHS_Volunteer> I still haven't gone back to using Ubuntu 9.04, and I'm still not enjoying the broken sound.
[15:50] <space_cadet> please
[15:50] <xae8koo> ActionParsnip: fixme:ntdll:NtQueryInformationProcess (process=0xffffffff) Unimplemented information class: ProcessDebugFlags
[15:50] <ooaaaoo> anyone here knows how to delete an "account" from empathy's account list?
[15:50] <xae8koo> ActionParsnip: A lot of that
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> xae8koo: cool websearch that
[15:51] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, flv files in firefox? are you sure they're flv? sounds more like swf to me..
[15:51] <Will123456> xae8koo: it could be something to do with a change to the sound subsystem in 9.10
[15:51] <space_cadet> no dude, they're flv
[15:51] <bazhang> space_cadet, from youtube?
[15:51] <Will123456> xae8koo: have you checked that any sounds work in wine?
[15:51] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: When I put an audio CD into my computer it appears in the Places menu. If I click on the audio cd it opens it in Sound Juicer
[15:51] <cankoy> space_cadet: aptitude search unstripped  <--install these
[15:52] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: But there are probably other cd ripping programs in the repos. Have a look in Add/Remove programs or the Software Centre if you are running a more recent release
[15:52] <xae8koo> Will123456: Yes, I hear the starting sound of spotify, and if I'm lucky a few seconds of a song.
[15:53] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes it works
[15:53] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, have you tried 'file' on them?
[15:53] <bazhang> space_cadet, is this from youtube
[15:53] <space_cadet> bazhang, NO
[15:53] <bazhang> space_cadet, got a link? I will try
[15:53] <space_cadet> cankoy, still won't work
[15:53] <space_cadet> bazhang, no i don't... they are downloaded from a torrent...
[15:54] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: congrats
[15:54] <space_cadet> it's the Offensive Security Set
[15:54] <space_cadet> backtrack videos
[15:54] <Will123456> xae8koo: i SHOULD have a 9.10 box behind me, but right now it's down for the count. i'll be reinstalling tonight at some point, so er, if you're still having problems, at least perhaps we'll both be having problems together later on. that's all i can offer to you right now, other than downloading the latest spotify version. sorry!
[15:54] <space_cadet> they work in windows.
[15:54] <space_cadet> they work in firefox
[15:54] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: sorry I mean it works in the other server
[15:54] <xae8koo> Will123456: I have the latest :/
[15:54] <space_cadet> but i can't play them in mplayer, vlc, or anything else.
[15:54] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: lol well that's something
[15:55] <spridel> perhaps you are missing a codec/gstream for ubuntu
[15:55] <spridel> i was missing one to play aac files
[15:56] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: ok on the trouble server I only see one error, and that's invalid path
[15:56] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I don't have any icons on my desktop
[15:56] <erry> Hello, I would like to change my default browser. I have ran     sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[15:56] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I use XFCE4.  It doesn't have a 'Places' menu
[15:56] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Does the CD appear in the Places menu?
[15:56] <erry> which told me my default browser is galeon, but when i click on a link from here or pidgin or whatever firefox opens iot
[15:56] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: ok you could check on the good server if that path is what it is, or if it's linked
[15:56] <Gateway`> hello everybody, I've just installed amsn with the command sudo apt-get install amsn
[15:56] <dalfz> i'm trying to build wine, but it complains of missing freetype font dev files. what package is that?
[15:57] <Gateway`> sorry, with the commande sudo apt-get install amsn.package, after lunching the program, it says something like xcimage..
[15:57] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: What is XFCE4? Have you looked to see if you have a CD ripping program installed? As I say, I use Sound Juicer but only because its there and works. I dont have any strong opinion on it
[15:58] <Gateway`> now, I would like to remove it... can somebody show me how I have to do ?
[15:58] <Will123456> xae8koo: i realise this is a bit of a duh thing to do but other people have had problems too: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+9.10+spotify&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[15:58] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: didn't understood
[15:58] <Will123456> xae8koo: "Try removing the wine package and install the wine1.2 one."
[15:58] <erry> Hello
[15:58] <Hajex> can I upgrade my system to 9.10 without upgrading first to 9.04 (I have 8.1o now)??
[15:58] <space_cadet> Well... my flv files are compressed Flash Data. Version 8
[15:58] <Will123456> xae8koo: that fixed his problems
[15:59] <space_cadet> so... how to play them in vlc
[15:59] <bazhang> Hajex, no, you need to take the intermediate step first
[15:59] <space_cadet> cause they wont
[15:59] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I mean is it possible the one server is finding the correct path because of a symlink that was generated by some script on install, and the other one isn't linked?
[15:59] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: you know GNOME and KDE?  XFCE4 is like those.
[16:00] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: a "desktop environment" I think they're called
[16:00] <lenovo> 这个怎么用阿
[16:00] <dooglus> !info xfce4
[16:00] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: but I used the same Makefile.. I didn't change anything
[16:00] <Hajex> bazhang : but system alert me that 9.04 is not supported by ATI video adapter
[16:00] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: OK. I see. I am using gnome. If you look in a file browser you may be able to see the audio CD. Do you have a CD ripping package installed?
[16:01]  * Strogg celebrates!  I've booted from USB, resized the vista partition, and installed ubuntu!
[16:01] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: same as in from the same vendor, same version?
[16:01]  * Strogg does a little dance
[16:01] <gotme54545> Ubnuntu is not reading any blank cd's anyone help? version 9.10
[16:01] <dooglus> gotme54545: I can.  there's nothing on them.
[16:02] <gotme54545> dooglus: i am trying to burn something, but it's not reading the cd.
[16:02] <dooglus> gotme54545: if you have any blank DVDs you'd like read, I can tell you what's on them too.  just ask.
[16:02] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: no, in the first server I am running hardy desktop, but in the second it's hardy server
[16:02] <gotme54545> dooglus: it reads the cd's that have content on them, but when i insert a blank cd it does noting.
[16:03] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: ok then, same repos, just different install
[16:03] <lenovo> 这是什么东西
[16:03] <space_cadet> i thought .dll files were for windows
[16:03] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: I gonna be crazy
[16:03] <M4K4V3l1> :S
[16:03] <DJones> !cn | lenovo
[16:03] <grawity> space_cadet: They are, usually.
[16:03] <lenovo> join #ubuntu
[16:03] <MayaT> hye i am new. and want to try using ubuntu
[16:03] <JohnT> I have a multithreading problem... I have a CPU with 4 cores: when using an app with 4 threads (wich runned correctly on 9.04) the behaviour is not obvious. Each thread should be ran by its core, but it does not happen anymore in 9.10: 3 cores are at 100%, while one is idle. The result is 2 threads using 2 cores and the other 2 sharing only one, thus keeping the remaining one idle. Its important... I am drilling myself for
[16:03] <JohnT>  explaining and solving this thing
[16:03] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: haha sorry I can only help troubleshoot, I don't know slapd
[16:03] <lenovo> join #ubuntu -cn
[16:04] <space_cadet> grawity, ok... go to mplayerhq.hu    download the Linux x86 codec pack (from the download page) and peek inside.
[16:04] <MayaT> how to first step using ubuntu
[16:04] <lenovo> 呵呵
[16:04] <IdleOne> lenovo: /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:04] <JonathanEllis> MayaT: Try downloading a liveCD and running from that.
[16:04] <bazhang> lenovo, /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:04] <JonathanEllis> !livecd | MayaT
[16:04] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: it's not you the problem, I mean my problems using ubuntu are multiple now
[16:04] <dooglus> gotme54545: can you just try burning something onto them?
[16:04] <Dnrock> please help me ! i need convert FAT32 -> NTFS without loss data on ubuntu .....
[16:04] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: is ubuntu unstable ?
[16:04] <lenovo>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:04] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything.
[16:05] <bazhang> lenovo, no space before /join
[16:05] <space_cadet> Dnrock, boot to windows and use http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb456984.aspx
[16:05] <erry> <_< i see you dont' really care
[16:05] <JonathanEllis> Dnrock: You cannot convert a FAT32 volume to NTFS. All you can do is make a new NTFS volume and then copy the data across
[16:05] <dbugger> Hey guys! 've been told to make a magazine for my faculty. What software could I use for this?
[16:05] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: no* hardy should be rock-solid
[16:05] <space_cadet> JonathanEllis, in windows you can.
[16:05] <rapha> is there a list with laptops working under ubuntu?
[16:06] <space_cadet> rapha, laptops or netbooks?
[16:06] <Dnrock> space_cadet: can i do it on ubuntu ? or only can convert with windows ?
[16:06] <JonathanEllis> space_cadet: Really? I forgot that. Its so long ago that I used Windows
[16:06] <space_cadet> lol
[16:06] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything.
[16:06] <JohnT> I have a CPU with 4 cores: when using an app with 4 threads (wich runned correctly on 9.04) the behaviour is not obvious. Each thread should be ran by its core, but it does not happen anymore in 9.10: 3 cores are at 100% while one is idle. No ideas, right?
[16:07] <grawity> space_cadet: I'm guessing mplayer has been written to be able to use Windows libraries somehow (kind of like Wine runs Windows apps).
[16:07] <Dnrock> JonathanEllis: with windows XP i can convert FAT to NTFS easy with one command line, so i think is same with ubuntu
[16:07] <Ddorda> is there any game that uses webcam?
[16:08] <JonathanEllis> MayaT: Follow the download link from the home page on www.ubuntu.com. If your computer is old and Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work, you may find that downloading ubuntu 8.04 may be more reliable.
[16:08] <fasta> Why doesn't Nautilus work with FTP in a non-broken way anymore? It took 5 minutes to connect to the server and list the directory contents. The eons old program ftp does this with a few hundred milleseconds.
[16:09] <space_cadet> Dnrock, looks like either... copy all data to new ntfs partition in linux, or take it to a windows box, and convert X: /fs:ntfs
[16:09] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything.
[16:09] <atzz> I am using ubuntu 9.10 and when I play videos they seem to be slow
[16:09] <rapha> space_cadet: laptops, 15.4 inch screens
[16:09] <atzz> I think it's a graphics problem
[16:10] <JonathanEllis> Dnrock: As I say its a long time since I used windows. Sounds risky anyway. It might be safer to copy the FAT32 volume to an external hard drive, then delete the partition in GParted and make a new NTFS partition. Then copy the data back. Thats how I would do it to be on the safe side. Otherwise if something goes wrong during the conversion process you could lose data
[16:10] <atzz> I have intel 845 ... and there is no xorg.conf ... how do I configure the driver for graphics
[16:10] <space_cadet> gotme54545, have you installed a cd burning utility?
[16:10] <space_cadet> i.e. gnomebaker, etc?
[16:10] <remoteCTR1> !libcrss2
[16:10] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Did you solve your problem or do you need more help?
[16:10] <remoteCTR1> !DVD
[16:10] <cankoy> JohnT: something might have changed about processor affinity in 2.6.30+, did you search kernel m.list?
[16:11] <atzz> !xvideo-intel
[16:11] <atzz> !intel
[16:11] <space_cadet> !askthebot
[16:11] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: have you tried changing specifically the ownership of /var/lib/ldap/far.ma ?
[16:11] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: or rather check what the permission are for it now?
[16:11] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes I did it
[16:12] <jon5000> greetings all, i am a bit of a novice.  I use karmic on my laptop but store all my files on a usb drive connected to a windows vista desktop.  I am able to get to, browse and acxcess this drive using samba with no problem but it seems that whenever the first time i access the smb folder/drive it has to search for it.  Also it never shows up when I am using a file browser from some program (such as music player, trying to add s
[16:12] <jon5000> ongs to the library, etc).  Is ther an easy way to make this samba drive act like it is local?
[16:12] <cankoy> JohnT: also try #ubuntu-kernel
[16:12] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: you are talking about the working serv ?
[16:12] <remoteCTR1> erm... what happened to ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:12] <JohnT> cankoy: thank you
[16:12] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: you could check who the owner is of that lib on the working one
[16:13] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything. Found the solution just installed gnome voulme manager and it worked for some reason it removed baraso
[16:13] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: you have right it's not the same permission
[16:13] <rapha> space_cadet: laptops, 15.4 inch screens
[16:13] <JonathanEllis> remoteCTR1: I installed it recently. Do you have the universe or multiverse repositories enabled? I forget which one its in
[16:13] <gotme54545> i love it when things work and you don't even know like what was wrong or why was that the problem
[16:13] <space_cadet> rapha   google search first hit   http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/massive-list-of-laptops-that-work-with-ubuntu/
[16:14] <remoteCTR1> JonathanEllis, avtually i have all of the repositories enabled, even the backports...
[16:14] <magaio> We have many access points with the same SSID at my university. Is there a way I can tell NetworkManager to connect to a specific one?
[16:14]  * arand wants to rant about how brainstorm is dead
[16:14] <atzz> I have ubuntu 9.10 and I don't have xorg.conf
[16:14] <atzz> how do I configure it ?
[16:14] <remoteCTR1> JonathanEllis, it also doesnt show up on packages.ubuntu.com...
[16:14] <JonathanEllis> remoteCTR1: And you still cant install it? Odd. As I say, I installed it successfully on two machines on Sunday
[16:14] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: on the bad server can you log in as the appropriate owner and claim the lib?
[16:14] <adnc_> hello, i'm trying to build a kernel and i get this error "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-2.6.30 not in control info" what does it mean not in control info?
[16:15] <space_cadet> atzz   heh, wait till you figure out that /boot/grub/menu.list isn't there anymore either...
[16:15] <remoteCTR1> JonathanEllis, maybe you did but those werent running 9.10 then...
[16:15] <rapha> space_cadet: sorry imon a small mobile phone ... everything takes lots of time ... the link you gave me i had already found but the info there is kinda crap
[16:15] <JonathanEllis> remoteCTR1: Ah no. Couldnt get Karmic to work on either of the two computers so installed Jaunty
[16:15] <space_cadet> rapha   it links to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[16:15] <atzz> space_cadet, well I know :p but grub is not giving me any problem... I have intel845 and my graphics is shitty
[16:16] <atzz> space_cadet, when I watch any video .. the video seems to be slow and jerky
[16:16] <atzz> space_cadet, even dpkg-reconfigure is not giving anything useful
[16:16] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: it's nice to have two of something running
[16:16] <space_cadet> atzz    i read something about intel problems affecting grub actually .....  but that was with headless servers...
[16:16] <remoteCTR1> well ok libdvdread4 is still available but not installed per defauilt now i sak myself what else from ubuntu-restriccted-extras i could be missing...
[16:16] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I installed sound-juicer - seems it doesn't come in the default ubuntu install any more
[16:16] <mgv1> when i choose subtitles totem gets closed - why?
[16:16] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: it finds tracks 1 through 15, but doesn't find track 0
[16:17] <atzz> space_cadet, do you know of any solution to this problem.. I can't watch any video ... it's all jerky and slow ?
[16:17] <atzz> earlier driver i810 used to solve the problem
[16:17] <space_cadet> atzz    actually .... now thinking about it, if you're talking about online videos, i have an nvidia 9600 GSM and i get the same thing
[16:17] <space_cadet> jerky and choppy
[16:17] <atzz> I was talking about videos on my HDD
[16:17] <space_cadet> hrm
[16:17] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Can you play track 1 with Sound Juicer? It may be that the hidden track is located in track 1 at a minus time
[16:17] <space_cadet> lemmie try and find a movie.
[16:17] <atzz> lol
[16:18] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, try this : http://www.mediacollege.com/video-gallery/testclips/barsandtone.flv
[16:18] <atzz> I need a workaround
[16:18] <atzz> :p
[16:18] <space_cadet> workz
[16:18] <mgv1> what subtitles are supported in totem????
[16:18] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I can.  It's 4:14 long.  Track 0 is 9 minutes or so
[16:18] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: very good, you help me finally.. I find the problem, someone has comment the line perms-ldap:
[16:18] <M4K4V3l1>         chown -R openldap.openldap /var/lib/ldap
[16:18] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, it turns out those files are SWF
[16:18] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: there's a slider along the bottom as track 1 plays.  it starts at the left and slowly goes right
[16:19] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: now it's works
[16:19] <M4K4V3l1> thank you my frind
[16:19] <M4K4V3l1> friend
[16:19] <TWD> After the last string of ubuntu updates I can no longer view mms video feeds in firefox.  Any ideas how to fix?
[16:19] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: excellent enjoy
[16:19] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: I imagine most CD players usually start from zero time by default. Dont know if Sound Juicer can play or extract negative time. I do wish record companies would quit it with introducing non-standard features into discs that may or may not play on common hardware
[16:19] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I think I learned a bit too
[16:19] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Wait! You said you had a track zero? Does that have the bits you want?
[16:19] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I think the other track is track 0, but I'm not sure
[16:20] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: ok.. happy for that
[16:20] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: sound juicer only shows 1 through 15
[16:20] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: hope to see you next time.. bye
[16:20] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I see track 0 on a 'real' (black box) CD player
[16:20] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, got any examples of real flv files ?
[16:20] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: seeya
[16:20] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Its annoying isnt it. As you said, some hardware CD players even wont see track 0.
[16:21] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, as i reported, that link you sent me worked... but i realized that the files i cannot play are SWF format
[16:21] <earilmadith> hello i have xubuntu jaunty, and i cant open dvds
[16:21] <earilmadith> http://pastebin.com/m1a7984f5
[16:21] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I did find a perl script on a website that will allow me to rip track 0 to .flac format, but it's command-line
[16:21] <alabd_> Good day everyone , which password should be used for message > enter password for default keyring
[16:21] <grawity> alabd_: Your login password.
[16:22] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: so I guess that solves the problem, but I'd prefer a GUI solution, in the official repos
[16:22] <alabd_> grawity: gdm login ?
[16:22] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: You might just have to try different CD ripping programs until you find one that will pick up your hidden tracks. If the worst comes to the worst, you could connect your CD player to your sound card with a cable and record the analog audio
[16:22] <Strogg> hrmm how do I get "octave" to show up in the installable packages for Karmic?  When I search for it in synaptic, it's not there to select
[16:22] <archet45> anyone here know how to change themes for gdesklets?
[16:23] <rapha> space_cadet: i browsed through the laptoptestingteam page as good as possible onthe mobile phone but it doesnt seemto link to the actual test results
[16:23] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Sometimes to do something unusual you may have to use the command line.
[16:24] <JonathanEllis> Strogg: You may need to add another repository. Try looking on the developer's website
[16:24] <Strogg> hrmm damn.  I would have thought that'd be core
[16:24] <Strogg> JonathanEllis: ok.. thanks
[16:24] <alabd_> grawity: gdm login pass does not work
[16:25] <space_cadet> rapha,  from what i understand.... if it's listed... the release tested runs on it....  otherwise good luck... the site is a bit confusing though...  they should clean it up a lot and put columns saying 8.04  8.10  9.04  9.10   and a checkbox or a yes or no if it was tested, works, etc.
[16:26] <rapha> space_cadet: listed where? i cant find a list at all on that page
[16:26] <space_cadet> on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam ??
[16:26] <space_cadet> under Laptop Tests?
[16:27] <Strogg> Aha. it was in universe.. but wasn't showing up when I search.  weird.  Oh well.
[16:28] <BryanC> I am trying to mount the filesystem from a "my book world edition" NAS so that it is available as a directory to my ftp server software. I am not familiar with the mount command though. Can someone help me?
[16:28] <ccmonster> For the love of all that is good, why won't my broadcom card work in 9.10 :(
[16:29] <ccmonster> Does anyone have a known fix for this issue?
[16:29] <ccmonster> I've tried various fixes that i've found online, but no luck.
[16:29] <renata> is there any command line mp3 encoder for (x)ubuntu, which I could use for encoding wav to mp3?
[16:30] <rapha> space_cadet: oh i have it now ... it just took insanely long to load - thx!
[16:30] <ccmonster> all4mp3 i think is CL
[16:30] <ccmonster> or M03
[16:30] <ccmonster> or blade mp3
[16:31] <renata> thanks
[16:31] <JonathanEllis> I have a scanning problem. x-sane detects my HP C7710A scanner as a 7400. I understand the avision backend has been included in the SANE distribution for years so that's not surprising. What is surprising is when I try to acquire a preview image, my x windows session restarts. Is this likely to be a problem in sane or xsane? Can you think what I might google to try to solve this problem?
[16:32] <renata> ccmonster, Can I find any of these in synaptic?
[16:33] <grawity> renata: The most common encoder is 'lame'
[16:33] <WFS> is there a way to dock pidgin yet?
[16:33] <renata> grawity, how could I use it for converting files?
[16:33] <ccmonster> I don't know renata . Maybe all4mp3
[16:33] <ner0x> Anyone familiar with hylafax?
[16:33] <ccmonster> you can use gnome-do and dock it I believe
[16:34] <ccmonster> or just make it run in the tray.
[16:34] <alabd_> grawity: it is ok now but how a vpn connection will be enabled in network maager ?
[16:35] <unimatrix> how do i request a package to be included in the repository?
[16:36] <Strogg> What the hell is ~/.gvfs ?  I have that file in my home and the permissions and user are unreadable.. ls -Fla shows them as question marks
[16:36] <mintux> I install gnome-osd but when I open a program it hides how can I keep on my desktop ?
[16:36]  * Strogg has never seen anything like that before
[16:36] <mphill_> when i want to resize windows the corners are damn near impossible to select, there is like a 3 pixel area you need to get the pointer on, is there anyways to improve this? I am using metacity, maybe I need to switch to emerald?
[16:36] <kostkon> !gvfs | Strogg
[16:37] <kostkon> damn
[16:37] <space_cadet> so is my only option to play these SWF's in firefox??
[16:37] <warriorforgod> Strogg: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+.gvfs
[16:37] <gburton> hello
[16:37] <Strogg> lol  nice
[16:37] <warriorforgod> Sorry couldn't resist.
[16:38] <gburton> i want to customise my power management regarding the hard disk... currently it likese to power down the hdd even when im on mains, so of course when i do something that uses the HDD it will pause for 1/2 a second while the hdd powers up.
[16:38] <djura-san> hello
[16:38] <gburton> hi
[16:38] <djura-san> :)
[16:38] <djura-san>  is there any chance to disable server messages (like "XXX loged in, or off") in main chat window? Is there chance to send them to another tab?
[16:38] <gburton> anyway, this is annoying because im doing web dev in firefox and its exposing race conditions...
[16:38] <djura-san> in xchat?
[16:38] <Strogg> if only some of those links had an answer. hehe
[16:39] <warriorforgod> Strogg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[16:39] <DJones> djura-san: From memory, right click on the channel name, there should be an option to disable join/part messages (Depending on which version of xchat, it may be under the options heading)
[16:40] <djura-san> xchat v2.8
[16:40] <mgv1> why does an hebrew subtitles look gibrish in totem?
[16:40] <djura-san> ant there is not that kind of option
[16:40] <jcrawford> hey guys i need to setup an ssh tunnel and i was looking at gtsm however it seems you have to leave that app open, it cannot go into the bar at the top near the clock or anything.  Is there a better way to have my port forwarded everytime i start the system and just have it be in the background?
[16:41] <kostkon> djura-san, there are two vers of xchat, xchat and xchat-gnome, a simple ver of it
[16:41] <kostkon> simpler*
[16:41] <jcrawford> i would rather do this in a config file or a shell script or something if possible
[16:41] <jcrawford> xchat-gnome blows :)
[16:41] <kostkon> lol
[16:41] <djura-san> i use xchat (not gnome version)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, the only method I've found to play swf files is to use a browser ,if you have flashplugin-non free of course
[16:42] <jcrawford> anyone have any idea about my tunnel question?
[16:42] <jcrawford> i want port 3306 to always go to a remote server
[16:42] <jcrawford> as that is where my databases are stored
[16:42] <jon5000> how do i permanently map a samba drive
[16:42] <DJones> djura-san: I'm not on linux at the minute to check, I've only got a windows version of xchat to look at, on that, the option is under settings after right clicking on the channel name
[16:42] <jcrawford> but it has to be over ssh because the port is not open to the public
[16:43] <monokrome> I have a Ubuntu server running, and Postgresql 8.4 was installed by a coworker (I think in a menu) but I need to install postgresql-8.3... Is there a way to completely remove all changes done to the system during the installation of 8.4/8.3?
[16:43] <djura-san> jcraford: oh yea... that is the thing :)
[16:43] <djura-san> works for me
[16:44] <lson8874> a friend gave me a hard disk sata 2 250gb, i would like to install ubuntu on it, but i can't the disk doesn't show on the install options! only my other sata disk with 500gb and the other two ide disks. Why is this? going on location it shows there with the other three disks but not on the instalation????
[16:44] <jcrawford> gSTM seems to work fine but...  I don't need or want a UI for this
[16:44] <handjob> Hi everyone. Could someone reccomend me sound recording software?
[16:44] <djura-san> next question: how can i set up xchat to auto connect to freenode and to enter a few rooms on startup?
[16:44] <djura-san> sorry. Djones give an answer to my problem :)
[16:45] <JonathanEllis> handjob: What do you want to do with it? Multitrack or just basic stereo?
[16:45] <IdleOne> djura-san: click Xchat menu and then go to network list. #xchat
[16:45] <handjob> JonathanD,
[16:45] <jcrawford> djura-san, in Xchat -> Network List
[16:45] <jcrawford> choose the network click auto connect and add your channels to the favorites box
[16:45] <handjob> JonathanEllis, Basic stereo but You could reccomed me both.
[16:45] <jcrawford> since when did this become #xchat?
[16:45] <jcrawford> hehe
[16:46] <djura-san> that is the thing. Thank you for your support :)
[16:46] <IdleOne> jcrawford: it isn't but we do it all it seems :)
[16:46] <edemirci1> hello do you have a Turkish who knows?
[16:46] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd????
[16:46] <jcrawford> IdleOne, :)
[16:46] <IdleOne> !turkey
[16:47] <gburton> edemirci1: a turkish what? I have a turkish rug at home...
[16:47] <JonathanEllis> handjob: Audacity can do either. I think Sound Recorder comes with Ubuntu in the Sound and Video menu. You could look in the Sound & Video section of Software Centre or Applications | Add/Remove. I have used Audacity to record four channels at once. Havent used it for a while so I dont have much more than that to say about it
[16:47] <Will123456> anyone here running an i7 who wants to test out how fast their machine can go? :P
[16:47] <whammo> can anybody offer any advice/guide on configuring an external monitor?
[16:48] <gokoon> Can somebody tell me why ubuntu doomed my mac ?
[16:48] <handjob> JonathanEllis, Thank You.
[16:48] <IdleOne> gburton: not helpful. evident that his native tongue is not english, under the circumstance I think he did pretty good asking for help.
[16:48] <cellofellow> handjob: Audacity is the best all-around sound recorder (powerful, easy to use, some multi-tracking). Others include Jokosher (kind of wet behind the ears) and Ardour (very complex and powerful).
[16:48] <gburton> right, sorry
[16:48] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, ty...  that's what i was thinking..
[16:49] <handjob> cellofellow, so audacity it is. Thank You also.
[16:49] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd????
[16:49] <djura-san> handjob: use caps, blop and cmt packages to boost audacity plugins! It will give you about 100+ plugins ;)
[16:51] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd????
[16:51] <Guest40641> hello, I just installed hardy to a 4g usb drive from my laptop (which was running karmic).  Now I get a grub error when I try to boot without the flash drive - anyone know how I can fix this?
[16:53] <kran> 这里是中文的么？
[16:53] <IdleOne> !cn
[16:53] <bazhang> kran, /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:53] <djura-san> one more question about xchat: how can i enable "Hide Join/Part messages" option server wide? Now i have to select that option for every single channel i use
[16:53] <kgreszczuk> siemacie ludzie :D
[16:54] <kgreszczuk> ubuntu 9.10  mam od 2 dni..
[16:54] <kgreszczuk> mam pytanie
[16:54] <bazhang> !pl | kgreszczuk
[16:54] <DexterLB> hi
[16:54] <BlouBlou> DexterLB: hello
[16:54] <DexterLB> I'll be buying a new compie tommorrow :)
[16:54] <Will123456> DexterLB: specs?
[16:54] <IdleOne> djura-san: try #xchat
[16:54] <a931bw> Guys i need help
[16:55] <DexterLB> so I need to migrate the entire 150GB /home to it
[16:55] <djura-san> i tried but there are no answer there :(
[16:55] <a931bw> how to recompile my kernel?
[16:55] <djura-san> *answers
[16:55] <DexterLB> it has a L O T of tiny files and symlinks
[16:55] <ikonia> a931bw: why do you want to ?
[16:55] <ikonia> DexterLB: what's the issue ?
[16:55] <a931bw> learn
[16:55] <a931bw> Ikonia : learn
[16:55] <DexterLB> it's under warranty so I can't just open it and stick the HDD in
[16:55] <IdleOne> djura-san: xchat also has a great FAQ on xchat.org I don't think there is a setting for a global hide join/parts
[16:55] <DexterLB> so I'll have to do it by network
[16:56] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd???? Please, someone help me...
[16:56] <ikonia> a931bw: ubuntu packages the kernel, it has some specific patches and packaging requirments, that's quite different than compiling a kernel, you have to work out what part you want to learn
[16:56] <DexterLB> so which is the fastest method for lots of small files and symlinks? I'm familiar with vsftpd and, of course, samba
[16:56] <djura-san> IdleOne: is there option to do this trought bash script?
[16:56] <JonathanEllis> DexterLB: You can open it if you are careful not to leave traces. Does your computer have screws or a door?
[16:56] <DexterLB> i don't know yet
[16:56] <ikonia> DexterLB: what is your target machine ?
[16:56] <IdleOne> djura-san: I would not know sorry
[16:56] <JonathanEllis> DexterLB: Anyway, opening up the case and installing new hardware should not invalidate your warranty
[16:57] <DexterLB> ok
[16:57] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: please don't bump, also are you sure its mounted during install?
[16:57] <WFS> sigh..  installed gnome-do but dunno what im doin
[16:57] <a931bw> ikonia: on what language kernel writen?
[16:57] <a931bw> c++ right/
[16:57] <djura-san> IdleOne: there are somebody at #xchat now. I will try there. Thank you :)
[16:57] <ikonia> a931bw: c
[16:57] <DexterLB> but if I have to copy lots of small files and SL
[16:57] <DexterLB> on other occasions'
[16:57] <ikonia> a931bw: if you visit wwww.kernel.org there is good documentation
[16:57] <a931bw> k
[16:57] <a931bw> ty
[16:57] <DexterLB> what software would I need?
[16:57] <skande> a931bw: C and asm
[16:57] <gost> Hello there.
[16:57] <ikonia> DexterLB: what is your target machine
[16:57] <JonathanEllis> DexterLB: If you dont want to do that, you could put the HD from your old computer in a usb caddy to connect it to your new computer. Otherwise network is your answer#
[16:57] <KindOne> I have just modified "./etc/X11/xorg.cong" in the terminal. What is the command to save it?
[16:57] <ikonia> KindOne: what editor did you use ?
[16:58] <a931bw> btw any1 know any public book of learning python?
[16:58] <aeon-ltd> KindOne: what text editor?
[16:58] <ikonia> a931bw: look at amazon, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[16:58] <kostkon> a931bw, diveintopython
[16:58] <gost> Why do I have so slow graphic card? My nexuiz is barelly running. I have radeon x700 pro with 128mb of ram and I have ubuntu 9.4
[16:58] <skande> a931bw: you speak french ??
[16:58] <DexterLB> ikonia: what do you mean by what is your target machine? Specifications or OS?
[16:58] <KindOne> ikonia: I made the edits in terminal with "sudo nano" command
[16:58] <a931bw> skande: nope
[16:58] <gost> Is there a way to upgrade mesa and driver without upgrading to 9.10?
[16:58] <aeon-ltd> KindOne: for nano press ctrl o and for vi+vim press ESC then :w
[16:59] <skande> okay , sdz.com should'nt help you
[16:59] <skande> a931bw: learn C
[16:59] <lson8874> i don't know what you mean with mounted. it had windows on it, but i already formated it with a live ubuntu cd. I opened it and then left clict and fomat on ext3
[16:59] <JonathanEllis> a931bw: You could ask in Ubuntu-Offtopic
[16:59] <a931bw> question if python program compiling on *nix will it compile on windows?
[16:59] <a931bw> Jonathan ty
[16:59] <a931bw> ill try
[16:59] <JonathanEllis> !offtopic | a931bw
[16:59] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: did you apply it on gparted after selecting changes?
[17:00] <JonathanEllis> a931bw: Or you could ask in a python irc channel.
[17:00] <kostkon> a931bw, #python
[17:00] <a931bw> im not registered
[17:00] <kostkon> a931bw, eh register then
[17:00] <IdleOne> !register | a931bw
[17:00] <a931bw> cant
[17:00] <a931bw> how to login?
[17:00] <rethus> hi there. i'm new at ubuntu... how can i keep my server-system actual? I know apt... but which repos should i use
[17:00] <kostkon> a931bw, check the faq given above
[17:01] <llua> why is the tranfer speed so SLOWWW, backing up 1 gig of music usb to sata. its going 700kb/s
[17:01] <blck1> Good evening
[17:01] <corey> when I try to download the latest flash player for ubuntu, i try installing the .deb.. but it tells me Wrong Architecture i386.. whats this mean
[17:01] <lson8874> sorry, but, what you mean with apply it on gparted?
[17:01] <KindOne> aeon-ltd: thanks
[17:01] <llua> corey, your using ubuntu 64-bit?
[17:01] <corey> yeah
[17:01] <corey> i cant find 64bit flash player
[17:01] <ikonia> corey: install the package flashplugin-nonfrere from the repos
[17:01] <gost> How can I see what radeon drievers I have installed? And what mesa I have installed?
[17:01] <IdleOne> !flash64 > corey
[17:02] <corey> thanks
[17:02] <Will123456> corey: you can find 64 bit flash alpha on adobe lab's website
[17:02] <blck1> Is it possebil, that a ati SB700 isn't supported and generates heat? Or doesn't slow down a hard disk, like it is done under Windows?
[17:02] <a931bw> registration so stupid
[17:02] <a931bw> i hope they dont spam
[17:02] <a931bw> %_%
[17:02] <ikonia> corey: if you install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" from the repositories it will do it all for you
[17:02] <corey> one more question.. i just installed linux last night.. and pages seem to take forever to load in firefox.. way longer then usuall
[17:02] <BlouBlou> a931bw: please see your language here :)
[17:02] <Will123456> blck1: slow down a hard disk?
[17:02] <rgr> blck1: you expect a video card from ATI to work properly on Linux? LOL.
[17:02] <lson8874> i open gpated and the disk shows there
[17:03] <grawity> a931bw: Freenode has never spammed ever since I registered (2 years ago).
[17:03] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: after using gparted no changes will be made before properly applying
[17:03] <Will123456> corey: just a long shot but it could be an ipv6 issue. er, not sure though
[17:03] <a931bw> ehh
[17:03] <blck1> Will: Yes I get the tip, that my harddisk controller (a SB700 and a WDC Disk) is not well supported, and cause a hot harddisk
[17:03] <IdleOne> a931bw: 4 years without any spam from freenode
[17:03] <a931bw> i wonder if someone will hack freenode
[17:04] <Will123456> blck1: sorry, i can't help you :(
[17:04] <ikonia> a931bw: stop please
[17:04] <kostkon> a931bw, they need your email in case you forget your spam, as usual
[17:04] <ikonia> a931bw: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support discussion only as you have been told
[17:04] <blck1> rgr: Yes I know, but I'm a sadist... But it is working quiet well
[17:04] <a931bw> ok ok ok going to offtopic
[17:04] <kostkon> forget your pass* lol
[17:05] <lson8874> i have a portuguese version. how do i apply? is it control+r?
[17:05] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: check in the menus
[17:05] <gotme54545> kk Having problem again can someone help please ubuntu 9.10 wont recognize blank dvd cd's?
[17:05] <rgr> blck1: in all seriousness I got one working well about 3 years ago then it broke again and I moved to nvidia. Their drivers are much better even if they do still screw up a lot.
[17:05] <Guest40641> GRUB error 21 - anyone know how to solve?
[17:06] <lson8874> apply all operations?
[17:06] <IdleOne> lson8874: yes
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: yes
[17:06] <blck1> rgr: Maybe ... but if i would change... I have to srew up my notebook... so no choice
[17:07] <rgr> Guest40641: I had that when I upgraded my business pc to latest ubuntu. Upgrade totally hosed my machine. This after loading the ubuntu log from the same srive it then said it could not find.
[17:07] <lson8874> it is blocked. Actually i didn't nothing. The disk is just there. It shows on gparted, disk utillity everywhere, but not on the instalation options, just my other disks....
[17:07] <gotme54545> kk Having problem again can someone help please ubuntu 9.10 wont recognize blank dvd cd's?
[17:08] <lson8874> i don't know why. And i do not know what to do....
[17:08] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: is the current partition just 1 NTFS?
[17:08]  * djura-san is away: busy
[17:09] <ikonia> !away > djura-san
[17:09] <lson8874> its ext3
[17:09] <Guest40641> rgr: did you find a solution?
[17:09] <lson8874> i formated it by left cliquing the icon on the desktop
[17:10] <lson8874> choosed ext3...
[17:10] <lson8874> trying to install 9.10
[17:10] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: wait you want to completely remove all other OSes and partitions and replace with ubuntu?
[17:10] <vladovg> hi
[17:10] <vladovg> have queston
[17:11] <gotme54545> kk Having problem again can someone help please ubuntu 9.10 wont recognize blank dvd cd's?
[17:11] <kostkon> !ask | vladovg
[17:11] <gotme54545> anyone have any idea about my problem plz?
[17:11] <vladovg> pysmd won see my ntfs partishon
[17:12] <lson8874> at this point i have windows on a 80gb disk (but irrelevant, i don't want it) and i want to instal ubuntu 9.10 on this 250gb disk, using all disk.
[17:12] <Hellmark[S10e]> Question. I have 9.10, and recently, it started not being able to use SSH tunnels unless I cycle lo down and up after startup.  What may cause this, and what can I do to fix it?
[17:12] <lson8874> i also have a 500gb sta and a 160gb ide
[17:12] <lson8874> 500gb sata
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: do you have any experience with computer hardware?
[17:12] <lson8874> some....
[17:13] <vladovg> my qeston is how to make pysmd to see ntfs
[17:14] <lson8874> i must reppeat that i have just instaled (before the formating) windows on that disk.
[17:14] <blck1> when I spin down my hard drive... does it put the read head into the parking position?
[17:14] <aeon-ltd> if you know how to do this safely then continue(if not i don't have anymore solutions)- open up your case and remove all other drives than the one you need reboot into a live cd wipe completely and appply changes then use the regular ubuntu installer
[17:14] <ikonia> blck1: if you drive supports it via the spindown method you use
[17:14] <lson8874> so i must presume that the disk is in good condition
[17:14] <ikonia> lson8874: what's the actual problem ?
[17:15] <blck1> ikonia: I'm using the laptop-mode and enable the HD_Powersave with 127... but it parks the read head very often... is  the spin down time different to that?
[17:15] <frostburn> did the weather applet break in 9.10?
[17:15] <ikonia> blck1: I've not idea, I've not used that
[17:15] <Spoom> hi folks, i just installed karmic fresh from the alternative install cd and am getting the same issue that i had with the livecd, namely, that X boots to an out of sync screen that my flatscreen 1680x1050 philips 220sw monitor cannot display
[17:16] <Spoom> i'm currently in textmode recovery mode
[17:16] <Spoom> anyone know how to force X to use a low mode like 800x600 for now?
[17:16] <blck1> It seem like I have to try it, but thanks for help
[17:16] <ikonia> Spoom: what card do you have ?
[17:16] <ikonia> blck1: sorry
[17:16] <lson8874> ikonia: i'm trying to install ubuntu on a 250gb sata2 disk. but it doesn't show on the instalation options, only my other disks, incuding another sata that i have
[17:16] <Spoom> ikonia: geforce of some variety, built-in
[17:17] <ikonia> Spoom: ok - my first hint would be to force the use of "vesa" driver in the xorg configuration file, then IF you have a working screen lets fix it
[17:17] <Spoom> ok
[17:17] <Spoom> and on that note, where DID xorg.conf disappear to, anyway?
[17:17] <ikonia> lson8874: are the other disks on the same sata controller
[17:18] <lson8874> aeon-ltd: would that not be a problem when i reinstall all the drives? will that not mess things with the grub?
[17:19] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: although this is not a 'clean' solution you can edit grub later to boot from other drives and partitions
[17:19] <Spoom> ikonia: where should i go from here?  i'm not exactly certain as to how to get X to use the vesa driver
[17:19] <Spoom> remember, this is out-of-the-box karmic
[17:19] <Spoom> i think it's using NV right now
[17:20] <lson8874> ikonia: well, i do not know... i must say that the disk shows on gparted and on location menu, i mean everywhere except on the ubuntu instalation options
[17:21] <lson8874> aeon-ltd: if no ther solution appears, i will try that
[17:21] <ian_> i just installed ubuntu 9.1, and the graphics don't look as detailed as they should.
[17:21] <lson8874> i must go now
[17:21] <lson8874> thanks for your help
[17:22] <Spoom> can someone assist me to get X to use a low-graphics mode and/or driver?  it's booting into an out-of-sync screen atm, in karmic's out of the box configuration
[17:23] <sinurge> use the hardware drivers option
[17:23] <Spoom> sinurge: if you're referring to me, i can't do that as i'm currently in text mode in another terminal
[17:23] <sinurge> from system>hardware drivers it might help u
[17:23] <pq_> hi all
[17:24] <sinurge> @spoom !oh sorry
[17:24] <aeon-ltd> Spoom: add this to grub boot options at the end of the kernel line 'vga=769'
[17:24] <ian_> or i guess what i'm trying to say is that the graphics don't look nearly as good as they did on the previous version of ubuntu i had installed on my computer.
[17:24] <Spoom> aeon-ltd: ok, i'll try that, thanks
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Spoom:  installed the proper nvidia drivers yet?
[17:24] <Spoom> Dr_Willis: is there a way i can do that from textmode?
[17:24] <kostkon> ian_, it seems that you are not using the native res of your monitor
[17:24] <mohan_> hi, how to get the idle time of a process with a particular process id?
[17:25] <pq_> someone know how to make tv out work for ati cards in karmic?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> Spoom:  I think jocky-<tab> shows a cli tool now .  Or figure out what package and sudo apt-get install WHATEVER for the proper driver version
[17:25] <vladovg> how to mace pysmd to see ntfs partisions
[17:25] <Spoom> Dr_Willis: i'll try that too, thanks
[17:25] <yml> hello, does anyone know how to activate the log in an IRC room wiht empathy ? and how to view the log ?
[17:25] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: if you mean the time its been on since start you can install htop to view that info
[17:26] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: i want to get that info in shell script
[17:26] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: for example a process with id 30432 is idle from how much time
[17:27] <Zane2> what is the default passsword for root?
[17:27] <syk> !root
[17:27] <IdleOne> Zane2: there isn't any
[17:27] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: actually you already have 'top' installed just enter that into a terminal
[17:27] <Zane2> auth failed
[17:28] <IdleOne> Zane2: use sudo command to get root privs
[17:28] <Zane2> i was trying to loginto the desktop
[17:28] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: i have top installed in my machine
[17:28] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: yeah, use it
[17:29] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: you want me to do "top | grep processid"?
[17:29] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: no just top
[17:30] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: but it will show all processes information right?
[17:30] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: yeah, its a downside of top
[17:30] <Spoom> no joy with the vga=769 kernel option, same deal
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> top can sort , or at least htop can :)
[17:30] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: ok
[17:30] <pq_> mohan_ see if "ps aux | grep $PID" or similar could help you
[17:31] <mohan_> pq_: ok thank you. i will try it
[17:31] <aeon-ltd> Spoom: did it change res though?
[17:31] <CountDown> I'm running 9.10 PPC on an iBook G4 laptop.  The Gnome Power Manager doesn't list any options for controlling the suspend/hibernate/screen dim behavior when running on the battery.  Anyone know where these options went?
[17:32] <okubax> whis got the chrome os to work on virtual box in ubuntu karmic? I compiled the source code and built the image but the networking doesnt work
[17:32] <ccmonster> the chrome os has a sneak peak already?
[17:32] <Spoom> aeon-ltd: it displayed the same thing on my flatscreen, a bouncing box saying that it couldn't display that mode
[17:33] <Spoom> (which is weird as this is a high-res flatscreen)
[17:34] <aeon-ltd> Spoom: damn there are settings for 800x600 vga=771 or 1024x768 vga=773 or 1280x1024 vga=775
[17:34] <Spoom> aeon-ltd: i've tried 771 already with the same results
[17:34] <Spoom> anyway
[17:34] <Spoom> i just installed the nvidia driver and wrote out an xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig so we'll see how that works
[17:34] <naknomik> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Karkic on a server which had a RAID 1 setup with two identical HDDs. I don't want the RAID now, and want to only install on HDD1, but when Ubuntu Live CD boots, it automatically loads the RAID disk as 'md' device and the installer won't give me an option to install on individual disk. How do I undo the RAID?
[17:36] <AmIMeYet> Hi. Anyone here have a script to decapitalize a filename? I'm trying to fix some mistakes of a windows programmer :S
[17:38] <jcrawford> guys if i want a command to run everytime i login to my system, or better yet system startup where would i put this command?
[17:38] <cankoy> AmIMeYet: /join #bash
[17:38] <AmIMeYet> cankoy: Okay, thank's!
[17:38] <jcrawford> ssh -L 3306:localhost:3306 user@domain.com &
[17:38] <sshc> is ubunt pronounced ew-boon-two or you-boon-two?
[17:38] <alokito> jcrawford: I guess in rc.d file :-/
[17:38] <jcrawford> that's what I want to run everytime it boots up
[17:38] <jcrawford> there is no /etc/rc.d
[17:38] <rethus> which ubuntu repos are to use to keep my ubuntu server up to date?
[17:39] <alokito> jcrawford: u can do it graphically in gnome/kde
[17:39] <Dnrock> jcrawford: gnome ?
[17:39] <jcrawford> gnome
[17:39] <jcrawford> yes
[17:39] <fasutus> is anyone around for some quick help concerning graphics?
[17:41] <mars_> @all: Hi
[17:41] <cellofellow> mars_: hi
[17:41] <ChogyDan> sshc: 0:48  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l02bhwofEqw
[17:42] <mars_> Can anyone give me a hint how to get changes on ubuntu 9.10 on a live usb stick written to the same disk formatet to fat32?
[17:42] <the9a3eedi> Hi. I need a little help trying to fix my initramfs. at least a small tip. After installing some packages and updating, after rebooting I seem to be getting a kernel error. After some googling I found this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047068 .. so I tried doing what it said by chrooting into my root.disk file and updating initramfs from there. But that didn't work. Any ideas? I installed Ubuntu 9.10 x86_64 using 
[17:42] <mars_> (... while system running)
[17:42] <alabd_> grawity: it is ok now but how a vpn connection will be enabled in network maager ?How to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/323482/ ?
[17:43] <alabd_> How to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/323482/ ?
[17:43] <naknomik> How to get rid of the software RAID that was created so I get my disks back as individual disks for a new installation? Somehow when Live CD boots, it detects the RAID and loads it automatically.
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> naknomik:  you dont want tokeep any data on the disks?
[17:44] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a free tool for hard drive burn-in?
[17:44] <bzrk_> Mike_lifeguard: a hard drive burn-in? oO i guess you can use dd but why?
[17:45] <mars_> Anyone an idea?
[17:45] <Roby> Hello, i have a problem with my Graphics on Ubuntu 9.10 ( and every previous versions )
[17:45] <Sierradump> Can someone help me "learn" about the different partitions it takes to setup ubuntu?  I want to install to an SD Card, but I want to cut back on the reads/writes
[17:45] <simplexio> naknomik: mdadm --help, or if you just want delete everything just repartiotion disks
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> Sierradump:  ive seen 'netbook' forum threads that discuss all the options/tricks to do that.
[17:46] <Mike_lifeguard> bzrk_: to do standardized burn-in? Also, to look at what they actually do to the drive (ie as research)
[17:46] <Sierradump> I am going to use the SD Card as my "hardrive" to install XBMC onto.
[17:46] <bzrk_> Mike_lifeguard: i dont know what you try to achieve, but if you just want to stresstest a new hd for a while dd will do fine
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> Sierradump:  i belive the basics was to use ext2, and  move some tmp/cache dirs to ram.  was the core of most of what i recall reading
[17:47] <Roby> Could anyone help me with my problem? ive just installed the graphics drivers of my graphics card, ( Ati HD 3870x2 ) but i get a splash logo with AMD Unsupported hardware, what can i do?
[17:48] <naknomik> Dr_Willis: No I don't want to keep data.
[17:48] <Mike_lifeguard> bzrk_: real burn-in should at a minimum monitor SMART parameters while doing rw specifically designed to exercise the full range of expected operation. dd is really not a burn-in tool.
[17:49] <bzrk_> Mike_lifeguard: open two terminals, run dd in one, smartctl in the other
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> naknomik:  use fdisk delete the partitons.. reboot..  reinstall
[17:50] <Mike_lifeguard> bzrk_: that's useful, thanks
[17:50] <fire> hello
[17:50] <mars_> Can anyone help me? I use a usb live stick of ubuntu 9.10 and want it to keep changings on the same usb stick which is formated to fat32
[17:50] <rethus> big community (the biggest for linux... much people say), but seems the hardest one to get an easy answer :(
[17:50] <sllide> rethus: lol
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  how did you make this usb-live-ubunt 9.10 ?
[17:51] <sllide> maiby i can help
[17:51] <fire> i need install a cluster
[17:51] <kostkon> !patience | rethus
[17:51] <sllide> "maiby"
[17:51] <ubuspire> hi all, network manager will start dnsmasq with some options if i set an interface to "shared". how do i edit those options?
[17:51] <mars_> Dr_willis: using unetbooting
[17:51] <asdasd> how much space need to install Ubuntu? / ¿? /home ¿? /swap ¿?
[17:51] <rethus> ﻿kostkon: mhh. interesting hint.. in other irc u got banned if u repeat ur quest. quickly :)
[17:52] <rethus> ﻿which ubuntu repos are to use to keep my ubuntu server up to date?
[17:52] <blck1> asdasd, not more than 10 gb, but why not the whole hard diskk?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  theres ways to make it have a persistant 'save' file and thus keep changes.. or use the ubuntu usb disk creator tool.    I think pendrivelinux.com or the ubuntu forums mention how to make a unetbotin install be persistant.
[17:52] <blck1> asdasd, swap depends to your ram
[17:52] <ChogyDan> asdasd: 8g for /    at least 1g for swap plus ram, but at least as much swap as your ram.  The rest to /home
[17:53] <cellofellow> asdasd: you want your swap > your ram cause that's where your ram goes when you hibernate.
[17:53] <rethus> ﻿which ubuntu repos are to use to keep my ubuntu server up to date?
[17:53] <mars_> Dr_Willis: Thanks, so the keywords might be unetbootin and persistant? Is that what its called?
[17:54] <Riotta> I want to start my own PPA and looking some help about it can someone point me to some help files on it? mainly how to build packages for ppa?
[17:54] <cellofellow> rethus: normal and updates should do it.
[17:54] <LjL> !repositories | rethus
[17:54] <ChogyDan> rethus: what do you mean, uptodate?  why not just the security one?
[17:54] <kostkon> !packaging | Riotta
[17:54] <LjL> cellofellow: and security
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  yep.  i recall lookingit up a few months back. you edit the syslinux.cfg file to add some option. and make a save 'file' for the changes
[17:54] <Bergcube> My wife has run into a small showstopper with 9.10. She follows the language course at http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/spanish/mividaloca/ and this worked in 9.04, but not after upgrade. I have tried with 64 bit and 32 bit, with and without the codecs from medibuntu. I have googled, and still end up short. It wouldn't be fun to have to downgrade her PC, so does anyone have any sensible advice?
[17:54] <cellofellow> LjL: oh, yes, of course. rethus ^^^^^
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  or just use the usb-creator tool from a live cd, OR that unetbootin install and do it to a 2nd flash drive.. :) that maybe eaier
[17:55] <rethus> thx
[17:55] <kostkon> Riotta, also https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[17:55] <Riotta> thx
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397 has some of the info. but may be out of date for 9.10
[17:56] <rethus> ﻿ChogyDan: i mean security updates for server
[17:56] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: what isnt working?
[17:56] <rethus> maybe in future sum distribution update...
[17:56] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm using karmic with nvidia restricted drivers 185.  i noticed that the CPU usage on the X process is rather high.  from 22-40% on idle.  i don't even have desktop effects turned on.  any idea what's wrong
[17:56] <doonhamer> Hi , could somebody tell me where to navigate to within  my file system to locate quanta plus , specificaly I am trying to specify quanta plus as the default editor for greasmonkey scripts.
[17:56] <rethus> how can i make a distibution update with apt?
[17:57] <SusanDitweiller> hi all
[17:57] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  When clicking on an episode the window opens as intended, but after that it stops with "loading" for ever.
[17:57] <coachz> are ubuntu people friendly ?  :-)
[17:57] <maco> coachz: i think so, yes
[17:57] <dracnoc> rethus: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:57] <cellofellow> coachz: ubuntu people are people. So, mostly yes.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  it has an icon in the menus? if so drag the icon to the desktop. and check its propertoes to see what its launching and the path to the tool.
[17:57] <maco> rethus: its generally not recommended
[17:57] <mars_> Sorry for me not getting all you said. I am not nativly speaking english. Did I understand you right that there is way to get "persistent" ubuntu drives using a somehow modified unetbootin version that is somewhere out there?
[17:57] <coachz> hehe
[17:57] <maco> rethus: if you want to use the command line in general, sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:57] <coachz>  are there any big diffs of the latest Ubuntu or Fedora that make one more compelling
[17:58] <cellofellow> rethus: distro updates with ubuntu-server always go very smoothly for me. Ubuntu desktop not so much.
[17:58] <SusanDitweiller> guys - anybody seen this error:(EE) NVIDIA(0): Error recovery failed.
[17:58] <Ome> fulat2k, the monitor uses some of your processor
[17:58] <ChogyDan> rethus: can you please ask your whole question in a single line?  its getting confusing
[17:58] <doonhamer> ty Dr_willis  , lol now why didnt I think of that !
[17:58] <Scoup> i have wireless and i want to share to router wireless on cable, someone can help me?
[17:58] <SusanDitweiller> i come from the Solaris world
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  yes. theres a small edit to the syslinux.cfg file and the creation of a ext3 'filesystem' in a file - to store the changes
[17:58] <maco> coachz: i dont know whats in latest fedora. youd have to read release notes from both and compare
[17:58] <wuffi600> hi.
[17:58] <Grenyaris> I have to use corkscrew at [insert location here] and I want to use SCP with my alternate ssh config file...
[17:58] <Grenyaris> This is my command so far, but it fails
[17:58] <Grenyaris> scp -F ~/.ssh/alt_config sumo@chuckwagon.com:/home/gort/some_random_file /alt/location/
[17:58] <Moon_Doggy> i'm trying to make my desktop wireless but using the iwconfig command shows no wireless extension, do i need to scan for hardware changes?
[17:58] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: well, it seems to be working for me
[17:58] <fulat2k> Ome: before this (8.10), cpu usage was stable at 1-2%
[17:58] <fulat2k> Ome: even with the monitor on.
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  i still wonder why you can tdo a 'properties' on the menus item. :( that would save a step
[17:58] <cellofellow> coachz: Fedora has some newer software packages (newer version of Xorg for example) but its design philosophy is more geared towards geeky types who know what they are doing.
[17:58] <coachz> i see
[17:58] <SusanDitweiller> i come from solaris world
[17:59] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  Thanks, that is good to hear.  And do you run a (more or less) default Ubuntu setup?
[17:59] <Grenyaris> It tells me the usage is wrong...
[17:59] <coachz> i'm a geeky type who doesn't know what he's doing
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> never had to mess with video drivers
[17:59] <Ome> fulat2k, i have an old cpu and i have the same problem :)
[17:59] <inivex> solaris... HA!
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> yep
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> Started in Solaris 2.6
[17:59] <cellofellow> coachz: Ubuntu (or Ubuntu-based like Mint and SuperOS) are better choices then.
[17:59] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: I suppose.  This is an upgrade from 8.10 atm
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> but now this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Error recovery failed.
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> very annoying
[17:59] <fulat2k> Ome: i turned off System Monitor and did a vmstat.  same thing.  i'm running on a C2D 1.8 :)
[17:59] <FloodBot1> SusanDitweiller: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <mars_> Dr_Willis: Okay. Thanks. I think thats it after I know what to look for.
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> doesnt even start
[17:59] <alabd_> how to restart network-manager-openvpn
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> oh
[17:59] <mars_> all: Ciao!
[17:59] <Ome> fulat2k, so i don't know what else
[18:00] <fulat2k> Ome: hmm... prolly change to an older driver and see what's wrong :)
[18:00] <doonhamer> i see your point Dr Willis! ,
[18:00] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  Ok, thanks.  Knowing it works for SOME helps.  Plus then I don't think there's any point in downgrading.
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  yea. :)  A simple way to see what things are actially called/named/path would be handy
[18:00] <simplexio> Bergcube: on my system(9.10 in virtualbox) video plays nice, but i cant hear sound, which probably because i dont have audio enabled
[18:00] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: who you mind running a command off my website?
[18:01] <Bergcube> simplexio~  thanks.
[18:01] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  What do you mean?
[18:01] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: nvm: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras sun-java6-plugin && sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun && sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-gnash swf-player
[18:02] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  I'll give it a try.  I already have the restricted extras, but the rest is honestly new for me.
[18:02] <coachz> does ubuntu support 64 bit intel ?
[18:02] <cellofellow> coachz: yes
[18:02] <coachz> cool
[18:02] <cellofellow> coachz: they call it amd64
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> and 64bit amd. :)
[18:03] <doonhamer> and in general drwillis , where would executables be kept , the only path i am seeing (doing as you sugested ) is to the desktop where the shortcut resides
[18:03] <dAlfa89_> Is there a MSPaint clone for Ubuntu?
[18:03] <coachz> amd ?
[18:03] <cellofellow> dAlfa89_: not really, but there's always GIMP.
[18:03] <coachz> that's not intel
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  if you know the name of the binary, you can use the 'which COMMAND'  to find the proper path to it
[18:03] <wuffi600> If i do a "aptitude update" i get an error-message about "signature verification", please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/323544/ . How can i get rid of the error-message and get aptitude working?
[18:03] <cellofellow> coachz: amd came up witthe x86_64 architecture so they call it amd64.
[18:03] <doonhamer> ok will atept that thanks drwillis
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  amd64 is the generic term
[18:03] <coachz> ok, that's funky
[18:03] <gburton> one thing that is irritating about gimp is you cant easily draw a square, or a straight line... it would be nice to have a boring, plain and simple "raster graphics" extension.
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  history of computers :)
[18:03] <cellofellow> coachz: the i386 architecture in Ubuntu is regular x86.
[18:04] <mMezquitale> dAlfa89_, yes but its a lot better than paint, itś called GIMP
[18:04] <dAlfa89_> mMezquitale, GIMP is too slow and heavy for me, I was hoping to find something fast and small for basic fun pictures, nothing serious
[18:04] <cankoy> !info gpaint
[18:04] <mMezquitale> dAlfa89_,  are you using gnome?
[18:04] <coachz> it's been years since i used fedora and now i just don't know which distro to use for a new install
[18:04] <cellofellow> oh, never new about gpaint
[18:04] <cankoy> !info mtpaint
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpaint
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Lol
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:05] <cellofellow> GIMP works for me. :)
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> I still miss the good old Deluxe paint.
[18:05] <cellofellow> Or Inkscape.
[18:05] <mMezquitale> dAlfa89_, use gpaint like cankoy suggested
[18:05] <doonhamer> thanks DR Willis "which" worked , as did my guess on how to launch "which" command lol
[18:05] <maco> for rectangles, just use rectangle select, then flood it
[18:06] <Grenyaris> anyone ever use scp with the -F option?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  shell basics 101 :)
[18:06] <dAlfa89_> Yay, gpaint looks perfect (:  Thanks guys  :D
[18:06] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: did it work?
[18:06] <mikobuntu_> gimp is brill, i heard on here yesterday that it wont be part of the main install
[18:06] <alabd_> how to restart network-manager-openvpn
[18:06] <maco> mikobuntu_: yeah considered a more advanced program than necessary
[18:07] <coachz> i see in distro watch that Ubuntu is #1, so what makes it beat out Fedora ?
[18:07] <mikobuntu_> maco; true, but thats part of the fun...learning it.
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> check out the 'meet the gimp' web site/video tutorials/feeds for upping your gimp-fu-skills
[18:07] <maco> coachz: fedora is more aimed at bleeding edge, which sometimes requires fore-knowledge of linux
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  this channel, :)
[18:07] <coachz> i see :-)
[18:07] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  Nope.  When running the update-java part it gave lots of error messages that it didn't have any alternatives.  Besides it didn't find any gnash
[18:08] <doonhamer> foolish I know Dr_Willis but i skipped shell basics 101 ! sorry never the time lol everything is needs driven!
[18:08] <mMezquitale> coachz, dont know about fedora but ubuntu is for human beings, I prefer ubuntu because itś faster than open SuSE, the GUI works fine, and itś a breeze installing software
[18:08] <coachz> i'm in !
[18:08] <coachz> so i get version 9.1 64 bit i  guess
[18:08] <kc7zzv> My computer crashes while booting Karmic.  This is a fresh install and I have an intel graphics card.  "Crash" means that the screen goes black after fsck and before the gdm load screen.  Numlock and SysRq don't work.  Any advice what I should do next?
[18:08] <rethus> ﻿dracnoc: rethus: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:08] <Grenyaris> ok, other question... I have a Lenovo T-500. I upgraded to 9.10, now NetworkManager won't manage my Wireless - it says "Wireless is Disabled"... is there a config I can edit to change this?
[18:08] <rethus> before this i have to insert other repos?
[18:08] <coachz> this one?   edubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[18:08] <maco> coachz: 9.10 != 9.1  that wouldve been a january release ;) 9 = 2009, 10 = october
[18:08] <cellofellow> coachz: just to clarify: Fedora is the development playground for Red Hat. It's not *really* meant to be used.
[18:08] <maco> coachz: thats the education version
[18:09] <coachz> oh
[18:09] <cellofellow> maco: coachz: 9.1 wouldn't exist in this numbering scheme, it'd be 9.01 for January.
[18:09] <coachz> what one do i get for pc 64 bit
[18:09] <cellofellow> Format is y.mm
[18:09] <maco> cellofellow: yes i know
[18:09] <rethus> ﻿dracnoc: menas... i know it on suse... if i want to upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 i have first insert other repos to zypper and then make zyyper dup (like apt﻿-get dist-upgrade)... how is it on ubuntu?
[18:09] <coachz> i'm here:   http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:09] <cellofellow> coachz: depends. How much RAM do you have?
[18:09] <mMezquitale> Grenyaris, try turning the wireless card on
[18:10] <coachz> 2gb
[18:10] <maco> cellofellow: oh you mean the 0? yeah....i cant figure out how *else* youd parse 9.1 though :P
[18:10] <Grenyaris> It is on... I can use "ifup wlan0" etc... but Network Manager won't manage it...
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  i belive they have amd64 in the title/name
[18:10] <cellofellow> coachz: you'll get little benefit using the 64bit version. Get the i386 Desktop image.
[18:10] <coachz> why not 64bit though
[18:10] <coachz> what's the disadvantage
[18:10] <maco> coachz: no reason to go 64 without 4gib ram
[18:10] <cellofellow> coachz: only real benefit is the ability to address >4GB of RAM.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  i use 64bit on my machines even if i just have 2gb of ram. i find it helps my video reencoiding speeds.. and all my Lan is using 64bit.
[18:11] <coachz> ahh
[18:11] <coachz> ok so which one to dl
[18:11] <maco> coachz: and pointers are bigger on 64bit so youll have higher memory usage
[18:11] <maco> coachz: go for i386
[18:11] <cellofellow> coachz: unless you're going to be encoding lots of video, no real reason to use 64bit.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  so it depoends on what you want to do.
[18:11] <coachz> ok but which one:   http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:11] <coachz> i'll go 32 bit
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  the one that has 9.10 in the name..
[18:12] <cellofellow> coachz: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:12] <maco> coachz: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%98%C5%C3a%D0%BE_%2A%07%EA%8F%A5%05.Z%A4%80%97%E7%F6
[18:12] <coachz> thanks very much guys :-)
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:12] <maco> wow we have amd64 and ia64?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> or try kubuntu. or xubuntu
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> or get them all
[18:12] <coachz> isn't there  a dvd ?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  dont use the dvd
[18:12] <coachz> maco, that's just a cd
[18:13] <cellofellow> coachz: yes but... it's just extra language packs.
[18:13] <cellofellow> coachz: there's also SuperOS which is a DVD-size distro with lots of extra goodies.
[18:13] <X-Ray> hi all... suddenly, the NIC Broadcom desappear from my system... I have a Dell PowerEdge T300 and ubuntu 9.10 install on it
[18:13] <maco> coachz: ubuntu only requires one cd...
[18:13] <coachz> so that one cd gets me all i need to get x ?
[18:13] <cellofellow> coachz: yes
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  of course.
[18:13] <coachz> sweet !
[18:13] <coachz> thanks again
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> TinyCoreLinux can fit X into 10mb. :) but thats not ubuntu.. Heh
[18:14] <coachz> now i'm cooking
[18:14] <Grenyaris> There are some 20 odd Ubuntu flavored distros... http://www.nixtutor.com/ubuntu/20-ubuntu-derivatives-you-should-know-about/
[18:14] <X-Ray> so when I install the system, everything is work nice... bu when I boot the system, whereis eth0... just see eth1... I have two nic and see just one :|
[18:14] <X-Ray> I am very dissapointed with this!
[18:14] <cellofellow> xPUD is Ubuntu-based and has X and a Web-based GUI all in 25MB.
[18:14] <cellofellow> xPUD is awesome.
[18:14] <X-Ray> so I decide go back to CentOS.... :|
[18:15] <cellofellow> X-Ray: Why not Debian?
[18:15] <coachz> X-Ray, how long have you been trying to get this working ?
[18:15] <FewClues> @grenyaris  20? Is that counting all known dirivatives?
[18:15] <simplexio> X-Ray: ifconfig eth0 up ?
[18:15] <simplexio> X-Ray: lshw probably shows its there
[18:15] <sidewalk> anyone know if ubuntu 64 bit runs on an Atom 330?
[18:16] <Grenyaris> FewClues: Not sure...knowing Linux, it could be "20 of the top 100"  ;)
[18:16] <X-Ray> simplexio: no such device
[18:16] <simplexio> X-Ray: well does lshw or lspci tell tou that you have 2 ethernetcards ?
[18:16] <X-Ray> simplexio: lshw and lspci, both show me the NIC's
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  ive heard the atom's are not 64bit cpus. but no idea if thats ALL atoms. or only the older ones.
[18:17] <Vesayth> Hello. I'm having trouble accessing computers on my home network by their hostnames rather than their ip address. I'm connecting to the network via OpenVPN and as far as I can tell, I've pushed the correct settings to the client and it still doesn't seem to work right. Anyone have any ideas? The server is running Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit and the client is Vista 32-bit
[18:17] <X-Ray> simplexio: and when I remove tg3 module and re-load it , I see this message: udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1
[18:18] <cellofellow> Vesayth: sounds like it's not using the correct nameserver.
[18:18] <cellofellow> Vesayth: what does /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[18:18] <Grenyaris> Vesayth: "Vista 32-bit" - well THERE's your problem, right there...
[18:18] <Vesayth> cellofellow: one sec
[18:18] <cellofellow> oh, there's no /etc/resolv.conf in vista
[18:18] <cellofellow> How do you check the DNS configuration in Vista?
[18:18] <X-Ray> simplexio: I have other server. same configuration... And everything is correct!
[18:19] <orsonj> I have a half a gig of stuff in /usr/lib/debug/ Is it safe to delete that stuff?
[18:19] <armence> Is there an easy way to run a program when I login?
[18:19] <Zane2> i get this error only in ubuntu 9.10 , A hard disk may be failing one ore more hdd report health problems.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> armence:  depends on the program and what you want  it to do ;)
[18:19] <cellofellow> orsonj: no, probably better to go through synaptic and remove all the *-dbg packages.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[18:19] <simplexio> X-Ray: check what is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:19] <alabd_> there is a cert file how to give it's path to openvpn ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/323482/
[18:20] <armence> Dr_Willis: It's a command line python script
[18:20] <Zane2> but i dont get it if i then install 9.04 or even win7
[18:20] <orsonj> ok, thanks cellofellow
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> armence:  see  the !startup factoid info above. :)
[18:20] <Zane2> only when i install 9.10
[18:20] <Vesayth> cellowfellow: http://pastebin.com/m55696b39
[18:20] <X-Ray> simplexio: yes.. this file exist and show me two interface, with two different MAC's
[18:20] <Vesayth> where a.b.c.d = my router's ip
[18:20] <sidewalk> !scsi
[18:20] <cellofellow> Vesayth: that's on your server?
[18:20] <Vesayth> yes
[18:20] <Zane2> can i fix the reporting of this or ignor it
[18:20] <cellofellow> Vesayth: which box isn't working, the Vista box?
[18:21] <Vesayth> cellowfellow: correct
[18:21] <sidewalk> hmmpfz... no bot in ?
[18:21] <Cale> Is there a convenient way to inform the package manager that under no circumstances will I ever want to install pulseaudio or evolution, even if the operation I asked for would require it? I'd rather get an error message in those cases.
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  the bot replied. :)
[18:21] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, 9.11 drivers, 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides using multiple xorg.conf with separate drivers
[18:21] <Vesayth> cellowfellow: if need be I can also pastebin my smb.conf and openvpn.conf
[18:21] <simplexio> X-Ray: so that mean that there is two ethernet cards, check from there what names they use
[18:22] <BA^> how do i remove the title bar off a terminal window? i've used compiz with !title=trans but it doesn't work
[18:22] <maco> Cale: putting a hold on it in synaptic after removing it may work
[18:22] <pharum> hi ppl can any one tell me why my conky configuration dont show my active internet connection ?
[18:22] <pharum> http://wklej.org/id/211173/
[18:23] <X-Ray> simplexio: another day... sorry... but I have to go... BTW I re-install CentOS... More reliable.... sorry
[18:23]  * blast jumps
[18:23] <simplexio> X-Ray: yes,, and you nice troll.
[18:23] <Cale> maco: I'll try that, thanks
[18:23] <simplexio> one more to forever ignore list
[18:23] <sidewalk> does Ubuntu 9.10 installation for scsi require alternative iso, or not?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  ive never heard of it being needed.. but ive never personally had a actual scsi drive/controller card
[18:24] <sidewalk> i mean software raid
[18:24] <BA^> how do you remove the titlebar from a term window?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  oh :) no idea on that
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[18:24] <cellofellow> Vesayth: I guess you need to check the DNS settings in the Vista machine then.
[18:25] <alokito> is there a good limewire-like opensource software in ubuntu?
[18:25] <blast> is there a webcam-recording package that actually works without corrupting any frames (aka: cheese sucks)?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire |  alokito
[18:25] <Vesayth> cellofellow: ipconfig /all lists the correct WINS and DNS servers. Here is smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/m4fe6fe23
[18:25] <Grenyaris> alokito: you mean for Torrents? or more like LimeWIre?
[18:26] <blast> frostwire blows compared to limewire
[18:26] <cellofellow> blast: try VLC.
[18:26] <alokito> Grenyaris: no I mean search and download
[18:26] <Ome> BA^, menu display => display title menu
[18:26] <cellofellow> blast: for Webcam.
[18:26] <alokito> Dr_Willis: thanks! i'll try that now :)
[18:26] <alokito> blast: u mean it's not so good as limewire? :-/
[18:27] <PacketCollision> anyone else noticed X-Chat freezing on startup (and sometimes when connecting to new networks)?
[18:27] <blast> cellofellow: does that *save* video or just play it?  and how reliably does it open video devices?  ive *never* had it successfully open *any* video device?  do you have any other ideas, cuz im fresh out?
[18:27] <marianom> randa, ping.
[18:27] <kostkon> PacketCollision, nope
[18:27] <alabd_> clicking on vpn connection name will not make it work , what is the problem ?
[18:27] <randa> marianom: hey
[18:27] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround (besides separate xorg.conf)
[18:27] <blast> alokito: yes, limewire is better, at least the versions of limewire and frostwire ive tried
[18:28] <BA^> Ome: i don't have that option. i'm using the default one in xfce under karmic
[18:28] <VCoolio> pharum: does the cat command work in a terminal? try to put | tail  behind it in your conkyrc
[18:28] <PacketCollision> kostkon: on my desktop it works fine (although during the 9.10 beta it froze on startup sometimes), but on my laptop it freezes about 3 out of 4 times I start it up.
[18:28] <BluesKaj> torrent sites are best , lime/frostwire are good apps but they contain a lotta garbage
[18:28] <PacketCollision> both are running Karmic amd64
[18:29] <johannes1> hi, is there a program to check if a usb stick is physically OK?
[18:29] <kostkon> PacketCollision, did you try reinstalling it for example
[18:29] <lu_> hi all
[18:30] <BA^> is there a better terminal out there that does transparency and can easily eliminate the title bar?
[18:30] <grawity> BA^: xfce4-terminal
[18:30] <nemo> BA^: huh. you'd think every terminal could do transparency now w/ compiz :)
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> BA^:  check the package manager theres proberly a dozen terminal alternatives
[18:31] <VCoolio> BA^: you'll need to convince your window manager to forget about the title bar; and roxterm is very good
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> BA^:  i like 'terminator' -its a gnome-terminal enhancement
[18:31] <whiteinge> I'm trying to script a headless install of Hardy-server into a VirtualBox vm. My preseed file halts the machine when the installation is done. It halts but does not power off. I've tried all the usual acpi/apm cheat codes. Anyone know if the server installation disk simply does not do acpi at all?
[18:31] <alokito> frostwire isn't in karmic repo? :-=/
[18:31] <PacketCollision> kostkon: I haven't on this install, but it happened on an install that was upgraded to release from the beta, and it still happens on a clean install from the release disk
[18:31] <BA^> ok thanks i'll try that
[18:31] <nemo> BA^: actually, gnome-terminal seems to do transparency just fine - and if fglrx was not teh suck, I'd be able to get my blurring of stuff behind it too :-/
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> alokito:  the factoid gave the url to get it
[18:32] <kostkon> PacketCollision, hmm
[18:32] <PacketCollision> Filed a bug, but it no one seems to be paying any attention to it
[18:32] <alokito> ok
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm I thouhg the terminal apps did 'fake' transparency. not true transparencly like you would get with compiz
[18:32] <kostkon> PacketCollision, hmm ok
[18:33] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: depends; roxterm has true transparancy, also the one with three characters, vde?
[18:33] <onlysomequesti> what about error "Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path"
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: well, it appears to be real transparency over here
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: it must be using compiz
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: for example, the scrolling text in background terminals updates fine
[18:33] <Bragex9> Which processor is best of theese two: Intel celeron dual core E3200 or AMD X2 3250E 1,5 GHz, 512 k?
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: I bet if I was on my nvidia machine at home, I'd get the blur too
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> nemo:  Hmm.. gotta see.. if i can find the setting to enable that.. (but i dont see the point of transpternt terminals, making text harder to read)
[18:34] <nether> I've been searching for a way to(through the terminal) install and use software to crack wep keys and possibly wpa if possible. everything i've tried came with an error, does anyone have any experience that can walk me through it step by step?
[18:34] <PacketCollision> nemo: afaik blur isn't enabled by default
[18:34] <PacketCollision> use compizconfig-settings-manager to turn it on
[18:34] <meking> any1 know where to find a real new moon cam
[18:34] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides separate xorg.conf (ubuntu 9.10, x32)
[18:34] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: could be nice if you're copying code from a howto in your browser; fake transparency will just display the wallpaper even if above a window
[18:35] <meking> does any1 know where to find a good new moon torrent??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[18:35] <PacketCollision> nether: you need a supported wifi card, and the use kismet and aircrack-ng.  Compiling both from source is a good idea, as the ubuntu repos are hopelessly out of date
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:  i got 2 wide screen monitors. :)
[18:35] <cankoy> Bragex9: /join ##hardware
[18:35] <jrib> !ot | meking
[18:35]  * VCoolio envies Dr_Willis 
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:   :)
[18:35] <Bragex9> ok
[18:35] <pk> hi!
[18:35] <meking> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:  now i need a 4 head video card.. to put 2 up higher
[18:36] <meking> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[18:36] <meking> ???????????
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> meking: and how is that related to Ubuntu Support?
[18:36] <FloodBot1> meking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <jrib> meking: this channel is only for ubuntu support, not for testing your keyboard. stop.
[18:36] <onlysomequesti> are you there :0 what fix it error Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path
[18:36] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: and a room in an airfield control tower </ot>
[18:36] <kostkon> onlysomequesti, maybe you need to install  libswt-gtk-3.5-java ? you could give it a try. http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libswt-gtk-3.5-java
[18:36] <onlysomequesti> hmm
[18:36] <meking> i though this was a chat room does any1
[18:36] <nether> how do i use the terminal to check if my wifi card is supported? I have aircrack-ng and kismet I believe, I also have wireshark if that matters
[18:36] <onlysomequesti> i look now thx
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:  i got upset when i realized i couldent use both monitors and the tv out on this card.
[18:36] <jrib> meking: it's a "chat room" about ubuntu support only, not about illegal torrents
[18:36] <PacketCollision> nether: what card do you have?
[18:36] <pk> Everytime I stop a wine application with sound all sound related plaugins like flash in firefox stop to work.
[18:36] <alokito> Dr_Willis: does frostwire use limewire's p2p network?
[18:36] <vladovg> hi again how to set up sudo password for user
[18:37] <pk> How to reactivate, any ideas?
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> alokito:  theres many clients that use that same network.
[18:37] <meking> o
[18:37] <jrib> vladovg: sudo password is your user's password
[18:37] <nether> ummm I'm not sure...lol
[18:37] <alokito> hmm ok
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> !p2p | alokito
[18:37] <PacketCollision> vladovg: sudo password is just a user's password.  You might need to add them to an appropriate group to do what you want
[18:37] <vladovg> wont to have root premisions
[18:37] <coachz> i got my Ubuntu cd burning.  i'll soon be one of YOU !  :-)
[18:37] <valdu55> Hello. My FF crashes
[18:38] <vladovg> wit su comand that all
[18:38] <FewClues> @jrib  are all torrents considered illegal?  I use it to download Ubuntu all the time.
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: yeah. I know
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> vladovg:  if the user is in the proper admin griup they will
[18:38] <alokito> k
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: unfortunately I can't turn it on since there is no support for it in fglrx :(
[18:38] <cellofellow> FewClues: torrent itself is legal
[18:38] <cellofellow> FewClues: just like http or smtp.
[18:38] <PacketCollision> nemo: ah, I didn't know that.
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: and actually no support for it in the OSS drivers either
[18:38] <vladovg> how ay eneible the root shel wit sudo -i
[18:38] <nemo> nor any planned
[18:38] <jrib> FewClues: no, but new moon torrents are...
[18:38] <VCoolio> vladovg: start with not using sudo for firefox, that is not useful; and under what circumstances does it crash? with flash? on launch?
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: the card has the capability. not sure why it is not exposed under linux :(
[18:38] <xoveruk> how do i scroll down with 'top' command
[18:38] <vladovg> but ay won to enter the shell with su
[18:38] <alokito> valdu55: disable all add-ons and see if it still crash
[18:39] <FewClues> @cellofellow  Then why does Ubuntu include it in their packages?
[18:39] <jrib> !sudo | vladovg
[18:39] <coachz> what chat program do you guys use for IRC ?
[18:39] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides separate xorg.conf (ubuntu 9.10, x32)
[18:39] <PacketCollision> nemo: I've avoided ATI for years now, because of their drivers
[18:39] <nether> what's the code to check what chip i have?
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> valdu55:   dont use 'su' use the sudo -i, or sudo -s commands to get a root shell
[18:39] <Uber-Geek> coachz: I use xchat
[18:39] <valdu55> firefox -safe-mode ?
[18:39] <vladovg> oo
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  im using 'weechat'
[18:39] <FewClues> @jrib   Thanks.
[18:39] <lu_> I've got a little problem: I need office 12 and I successfully installed it on 9.10. Now when I try to open a document containing a space in its name or in its path, Office 12 starts well but it fails to find correctly the file. For instance, I've got a Word document named "my file.docx" and I open it through gnome interface, Word opens well but it tries to open "my.docx" and "file.docx" and complains to find them, logical! Have you an
[18:39] <lu_>  idea how to edit gnome right clic menu for opening documents that contain a space ?
[18:39] <onlysomequesti> kostkon: i do install now but java -jar xx after out Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path
[18:39] <PacketCollision> nether: try lspci |grep Wireless
[18:40] <vladovg> ay wont to set up the password to eneibal root premisions fo my thet all
[18:40] <VCoolio> valdu55: under what circumstances does it crash? with flash? on launch?
[18:40] <kostkon> onlysomequesti, you mean you are still getting the same error?
[18:40] <VCoolio> vladovg: sorry, got confused, ignore what I said
[18:40] <valdu55> With flash
[18:40] <nether> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> lu_:  as a possible work around, you could try just drag/dropping the file onto an open office app.  Other then that.  no idea
[18:41] <VCoolio> valdu55: which distro? karmic? what firefox version?
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanels
[18:41] <PacketCollision> coachz: x-chat or irssi, bounced through a ZNC proxy on a server.  Colloquy-mobile on my phone
[18:41] <valdu55> firefox 3.0.15 and xubuntu 9.10, same thing is with 3.5
[18:42] <PacketCollision> nether: that card should work afaik
[18:42] <VCoolio> valdu55: is it with just running flash or when you go fullscreen with it?
[18:42] <nether> so what should i do?
[18:42] <nelson8874> i'm desperate. i want to install ubuntu on a 250gb sata disk but it doesn't show on the instalation options!!!!
[18:42] <valdu55> its random crash
[18:42] <valdu55> with normal window
[18:42] <nelson8874> it is a sata 2
[18:42] <cellofellow> nelson8874: you try the alternative image?
[18:43] <nelson8874> what alternative image?
[18:43] <nemo> PacketCollision: I almost got an ATI card. I appreciate their better integration w/ X11 (Display management)
[18:43] <VCoolio> valdu55: did you install flashplugin-nonfree ? or try the plugin from the official site
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  check 'fdisk -l' in a console to see if the disk is seen there
[18:43] <nemo> PacketCollision: but. yeah. clearly their drivers continue to degrade
[18:43] <cellofellow> nelson8874: it's the text-mode installer. Installs in edge cases tthat the livecd breaks.
[18:43] <cellofellow> !Alternative
[18:43] <valdu55> non-free
[18:44] <nemo> PacketCollision: another thing ATI fails at - NPOTT - and that's crossplatform. a premature optimisation that completely screws up small textures, regardless of your settings
[18:44] <nemo> PacketCollision: is only in recent drivers...
[18:44] <nelson8874> Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[18:44] <nelson8874> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[18:44] <nelson8874> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[18:44] <nelson8874> Disk identifier: 0x000c8962
[18:44] <nelson8874>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:44] <nelson8874> /dev/sda1               1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:44] <FloodBot1> nelson8874: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <Moon_Doggy> kk everytime i start my machine theirs a pop up for the keyring manager for my wireless and wont connect till i enter my pass how do i bypass this so it just connects to wireless
[18:45] <Uber-Geek> here's one, I have two HD's, I want to format one for NTFS to use in vitualbox. Can ubuntu do that?
[18:45] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: you can set your particular wireless connection profile as "Available to All Users" and then it can even connect if you're not logged in.
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> Uber-Geek:  using virtualbox to access real/physical hard drives.. is not reccomended.
[18:45] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: right-click the network applet and click Edit Connections
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> Uber-Geek:   you can use the ntfsprogs package toformat a disk to be ntfs I recall
[18:46] <Uber-Geek> dr_willis: can I tell virtualbox to use that entire drive as it's virtual storage?
, what u think?
[18:46] <iceroot_> what is the name of the tool which comes if i press the print-key in gnome?
[18:46] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides separate xorg.conf (ubuntu 9.10, x32)
[18:46] <PacketCollision> Moon_Doggy: go to applications->accessories->Encryption keys..., right click on Passwords: Login, and change the password to your login password
[18:46] <nelson8874> http://paste.ubuntu.com/323593/plain/
[18:46] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: still, the real problem is that the key is being stored in the "default" keyring instead of the "login" keyring.
[18:47] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: or do what PacketCollision said.
[18:47] <coachz> see you all on the other side :-)
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> Uber-Geek:  you could make a 'disk image' the size of a whole drive if you wanted..
[18:47] <valdu55> VCoolio, what u think?
[18:47] <coachz> cd is done burning :-)
[18:47] <nelson8874> Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000c8962     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1               1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:47] <VCoolio> valdu55: i think I gotta go, sorry; try the adobe flash plugin, no intelligent further ideas
[18:47] <Uber-Geek> Dr_willis: ok, still need to play with virtualbox a bit, thanks for the info
[18:48] <PacketCollision> Uber-Geek: virtualbox GUI doesn't support whole-disk images, but the command-line tools do
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  so you got 2 hard drives - each are 100% ntfs filesystems it seems?
[18:48] <valdu55> mm it has crashed on google
[18:48] <X-Seti> is there a way to turn the touchpad of in ubuntu 9.10 the option i know on gnome has been removed??4
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> !info gsynaptics
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> X-Seti:  try the gsynaptics tool?
[18:49] <PacketCollision> Uber-Geek: I switched to KVM, so I can't help you with the specifics, but google brought me to the right place, it will probably help you too
[18:49] <nelson8874> at this point i only have the 250gb disk, empty
[18:49] <X-Seti> thankyou
[18:49] <cellofellow> X-Seti: there's also the command synclient that will get some of that stuff done.
[18:49] <Guest51310> if I apt-get the kubuntu desktop when I already have the ubuntu desktop, will I be able use to either interchangably?
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  yes.
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  and you can use kde apps on gnome and visa versa
[18:50] <Moon_Doggy> packetcollision i'm using xubuntu and i dont see encryption keys
[18:50] <nether> so what should i do?
[18:50] <money> herro
[18:50] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: install seahorse
[18:51] <Kannonball> hey there
[18:51] <dailystruggle> without running gnome how can I take screenshots
[18:51] <dailystruggle> ?
[18:51] <PacketCollision> Moon_Doggy: try running seahorse from commandline
[18:52] <PacketCollision> I don't know if it's used in Xubuntu though
[18:52] <iceroot_> dailystruggle: in a gui?
[18:52] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: um, scrot will work in X, and I know I've done a command that can take screenshots on the console too.
[18:52] <Guest51310> Dr_Willis: and is there any downside as far as Gnome and KDE compatibility?
[18:52] <dailystruggle> yes
[18:52] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: scrot
[18:52] <cellofellow> fbgrab for the console
[18:53] <inh> having issues with a usb mouse.it randomly dies after awhile, and after my screen saaver is turned off it is jumpy and doesnt work right
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  at one time the default file manager setting used to fight/confilict but i think thats been fixed. You will have a LOT more icons in themenus. and some maybe redundant/identicaally named for  similer/dffrent tools
[18:53] <Moon_Doggy> packetcollision no seahorse
[18:53] <inh> when i plug it back in after acting up it doesnt even show up in dmesg
[18:53] <Kannonball> anyone know eta of support to the ati ES1000?
[18:53] <dailystruggle> not full gnome not full kde
[18:53] <PacketCollision> Moon_Doggy: sorry, no idea then
[18:53] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: scrotis just a command line app
[18:54] <dailystruggle> really is it in synaptic
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> !info scrotis
[18:54] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: yes
[18:54] <cellofellow> !info scrot
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:54] <cellofellow> Dr_Willis: I missed a space in "scrot is"
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> sounds 'dirty' :P
[18:54] <dailystruggle> thanks
[18:54] <Guest51310> I tried it once with 8.10, and something went haywire with the xserver in KDE and wasnt usable at all. any idea why?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> cellofellow:  that sounds nicer then. :)
[18:54] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Does it?
[18:54] <vladovg> did some one know alternative for object bock launcher
[18:55] <grawity> Dr_Willis: There's "scrotwm" too, a window manager. :P
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> !info scrotwm
[18:55] <PacketCollision> nether: I recommend installing aircrack-ng from source
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> !info pornview
[18:55] <dailystruggle> so I would be able to create a launcher
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  Yep. its hard comming up with original names these days.
[18:56] <Portunus> I require help with connecting to a database through a VM running Ubuntu, using mysql and php; I know how to connect to a server but even though I provide the correct information, it still can't find it. Help!
[18:56] <Guest51310> Dr_Willis: I tried it once with 8.10, and something went haywire with the xserver in KDE and wasnt usable at all. any idea why?
[18:56] <chea> if I need to mount something at start up, where would be the best place to put it?
[18:56] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: yup
[18:56] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: there's also gscrot if you want a gui to go with it.
[18:56] <cellofellow> !info gscrot
[18:57] <cellofellow> Which apparently is only available in a PPA.
[18:57] <dailystruggle> Thank you very very much
[18:57] <dailystruggle> later
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  kde4 is verymuch a work in progress. :) was even more in progress back then
[18:58] <Guest51310> if it just stright up doesnt work, I can always apt-get remove it, right?
[18:58] <mMezquitale> Portunus, the first step is to figure out if you have connection to the server within the VM, I have seen some people that have had issues with VM and NAT
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  removing a whole 'kubuntu-desktop' may be a little harder   - its doable.. but theres always a chance of some cruft getting left behind
[18:59] <kostkon> cellofellow, do you mean shutter?
[18:59] <ljpp> Interestingly, after using every Ubuntu version since Feisty with somewhat good success, the Karmic does not work on my T41 Thinkpad at all.
[18:59] <kostkon> !info shutter
[18:59] <wrapster> i have 100g of unformatted space.. but cannot create partitions as i've already set up 4 primary ones... how do i create an extended partitition ...
[18:59] <wrapster> so that i can pull in the space
[18:59] <chea> Asking again, hopefully with a more refined question. I want to mount my disk at start up, with a specific mount point, any ideas where I should place any script or whatever?
[18:59] <wrapster> i've chosen one partition for it..
[18:59] <wrapster> i mean one existing partition.
[19:00] <cellofellow> wrapster: you need to remove one of your primary partitions to put in an extended. Or you can just resize (expand) one of your existing partitions.
[19:00] <chea> nvm found it, thanks.
[19:00] <wrapster> cellofellow: i tried that..
[19:00] <cellofellow> hm
[19:00] <wrapster> but the resize wont work..
[19:00] <Guest51310> Dr_Willis: is it worth the possible hassle? Im really just curious about what KDE has to offer, having only really delved into GNOME
[19:00] <wrapster> should i first unmount the partitons before trying a resize?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  test with a live cd if you want
[19:00] <cellofellow> wrapster: you can't partition a mounted drive. Use the livecd.
[19:01] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!)
[19:01] <cellofellow> kostkon: oh, yes, they changed the name of gscrot to shutter, didn't they?
[19:01] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks... where is my network icon on karmic?  i dont see a thing to pick wireless networks
[19:01] <kostkon> cellofellow, yeap
[19:02] <wrapster> cellofellow: how can i do it with a livecd this is the first time im attempting it.. could you be more specific pls
[19:02] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: nm-applet may not be running. Try running it from the terminal.
[19:02] <cellofellow> wrapster: start the livecd and then run Gparted.
[19:02] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, dont see it after that... go tthese messages ** (nm-applet:28798): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[19:02] <cellofellow> wrapster: also log in to IRC and ask questions as you go.
[19:02] <wrapster> ok.
[19:02] <wrapster> ok
[19:02] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: looks like dbus isn't working right.
[19:02] <cellofellow> hmm
[19:03] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!)
[19:03] <klslowik> hi everybodu
[19:03] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on a 250gb sta2 disk but it doesn't show on the instalation options, but it shows on the gparted and on the location menu (i'm using a live cd)
[19:03] <cellofellow> nelson8874: why not try the alt cd? Obviously ubiquity is having issues.
[19:03] <klslowik> I have some problem with notif-osd when I upgrade my system to ubuntu 9.10
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  i would partion the disks using gparted/fdisk - or just delete all the parttions (you will LOSE ALL DATA in that case) and let theinstaller  use the uinallocated space
[19:04] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis: al my other disks appear on the instalation options (2 ide's and another sata)
[19:04] <iceroot_> klslowik: post details to the channel
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  if you want to keep windows. Use windows to resize the ntfs partitions.
[19:04] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis:the disk is empty
[19:05] <klslowik> my window notif
[19:05] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!) anyone?
[19:05] <klslowik> my notif window id green with some dot
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  thers 'empty' then theres 'blank' then theres 'unallocated' :)
[19:05] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis: and is formated in ext3
[19:05] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, how do i get dbus working
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  im out of ideas then.
[19:05] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: not sure...
[19:05] <klslowik> when in ubuntu 9.04 it's ok??
[19:05] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: what does `ps aux | grep dbus` show (sans quotes of course).
[19:06] <fasfasf> I don't know okay=
[19:06] <shawn__> how do i install graphics drivers for me intel laptop. just installed karmic and its running very slow. restricted drivers app did not give me an option to choose a graphics driver after install
[19:06] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, http://pastebin.com/f72d74db2
[19:07] <gheddy_zarc> hi tried to upgrade to 9.10 but 4 minutes from end of download using synaptic the download window disapears ? using 9.04 currently
[19:07] <coz_> shawn__,  I think the intel drivers are installed automatically
[19:07] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: well, it seems to be running just fine.
[19:07] <nelson8874> cellofellow: i would try that but i must downloade it and i have just one optical disk, that i'm using for the live cd
[19:07] <coz_> shawn__,  there may be other drivers available but I am not up on intel drivers at all
[19:07] <cellofellow> nelson8874: dunno what to tell yah
[19:07] <pk> arooni-mobile___: what does `ps aux | grep dbus` show:
[19:07] <nelson8874> :)
[19:08] <cellofellow> pk: he already did that
[19:08] <nelson8874> i mean :(
[19:08] <pk> shows alot what you need exactly
[19:08] <cellofellow> pk: it's running fine
[19:08] <cellofellow> pk: http://pastebin.com/f72d74db2
[19:08] <shawn__> coz_, everything is running extremely slow. like window redraw and resize is painful
[19:08] <arooni-mobile___> i would love my nm-applet back ;p
[19:08] <nelson8874> i've googled about it nd lso nothing
[19:08] <coz_> shawn__,  you have compiz running right?
[19:08] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: what was the output from running it, again?
[19:08] <nelson8874> will try to instal on another disk...
[19:09] <nelson8874> anyway thanks to all
[19:09] <shawn__> coz_, no i turned it off
[19:09] <Bayam> @@
[19:09] <Bayam> hello
[19:09] <jcrawford> ok so someone said I could enter commands like this in gnome but i had to step out so i missed where they said to add it.  I want this command to run everytime that i start the system: ssh -L 3306:localhost:3306 user@domain.com &
[19:09] <iceroot_> !pm | klslowik
[19:09] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!) anyone?
[19:09] <wrapster> im back
[19:09] <coz_> shawn__, mmm   because there is a setting for  resize  that can be very slow  but you are saying it is slow without compiz  ok   what dies      lspci | grep -i vga     spit out
[19:09] <wuffi600> could you please help me with that problem: If i do a "aptitude update" i get an error-message about "signature verification", please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/323544/ . How can i get rid of the error-message and get aptitude working?
[19:09] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, http://pastebin.com/f72d74db2
[19:09] <wrapster> could you help me pls
[19:10] <fasutus> i have a radeon 7000 and can't render screenlets correctly. any ideas?
[19:10] <Bayam> @@
[19:10] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, oops!  http://pastebin.com/f701874e2
[19:10] <klslowik> I have problem with my notif-osd when I upgrade ubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:10] <coz_> shawn__,   I mean what does    lspci | grep -i vga  spit out
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  you want that to run at BOOT time? or just when the user logs in?
[19:10] <fasutus> i don't have an xorg.conf which is weird
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> never mind.. :)
[19:10] <Bayam> how to upgrade ubuntu 9.01 to ubuntu 9.10?
[19:10] <klslowik> notif window show only green background
[19:10] <cellofellow> jcrawford: see the System > Preferences > Startup Apps
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> fasutus:  not really. :) i have several machines with no xorg.conf
[19:10] <klslowik> I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:10] <shawn__> coz_, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:11] <cellofellow> jcrawford: you'll want to set up key-based auth though
[19:11] <fasutus> dr_willis: i was told to edit that file to get the proper config for my 7000 card. how should i remedy this problem?
[19:11] <Bayam> i wanna ask some thing
[19:11] <grawity> Bayam: Then just ask.
[19:11] <jimboa> than ask
[19:11] <Bayam> ubuntu 9.10 stable or not?
[19:11] <klslowik> Bayam: stable
[19:11] <coz_> shawn__,  ok hold on
[19:11] <wrapster> cellofellow: you there>?
[19:11] <Bayam> owh
[19:11] <Bayam> good2
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> fasutus:   xorg and ati have been doing a lot of chagnes.. so it depends on what you were supposed to do to the file.
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> fasutus:  i dont use ati any more. Sorry
[19:12] <Bayam> what diffrent ubuntu9.10 and ubuntustudio?
[19:12] <coz_> shawn__,  do you know how much memory is allocated in the bio for that video chip?
[19:12] <fasutus> it's sounding like i need a new card, but i wish there was something to do with what i had
[19:12] <cellofellow> wrapster: yes
[19:12] <coz_> shawn__,  you may want to check that and increase the amount of shared memory for the intel chip
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Bayam:  studio includes a lot of media-creation type apps  i recall. Is the big diff
[19:12] <shawn__> coz_, how do i check that?
[19:12] <wrapster> cellofellow: ok so what do i do now? Im on the livecd and looking at gparted!
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-studio
[19:12] <coz_> shawn__,  do you know how to get into the bios of your computer?
[19:12] <cellofellow> wrapster: how many partitions does it show?
[19:13] <shawn__> coz_, yes
[19:13] <Bayam> whith one better?
[19:13] <wrapster> cellofellow: 5
[19:13] <IdleOne> ubuntu studio probably has release notes on the site
[19:13] <cellofellow> 5?
[19:13] <Bayam> which one better?
[19:13] <coz_> shawn__,  ok in the bios... there should be a video memory settings if this is a fairly new laptop
[19:13] <shawn__> coz_, it is
[19:13] <fasutus> damn, i really like kubuntu but most of it doesn't work since the windows don't render
[19:13] <Bayam> sorry..my english very bad
[19:13] <cellofellow> wrapster: thought you said it was just primary partitions.
[19:13] <shawn__> coz_, a few months
[19:13] <coz_> shawn__,  do you know how much system memory total  you have?
[19:13] <wrapster> yeah
[19:14] <wrapster> i can see 5 ext3 partitions
[19:14] <shawn__> coz_, 3gb
[19:14] <IdleOne> Bayam: depends what you want to do. if you do a lot of music/ video editing then studio might be what you want. then again you can install all the same applications in Ubuntu
[19:14] <mMezquitale> Bayam, ubuntustudio is a multimedia based ubuntu, all the multimedia apps are already configured in ubuntustudio and it has a more simple  menu for your appz, if you want to add any app that ubuntustudio doesnt have, you can do so the usual ubuntu way
[19:14] <cellofellow> wrapster: so, which ones do you want to keep, and which ones get to go?
[19:15] <fission6> how do i mount nfs easiest in ubuntu
[19:15] <coz_> shawn__, ok  reboot the system and to get into the bios it is  F1  or F2  or  Delte button  you will have to see which it is   then ...check for any video memory settings ....see what that is set to ..if less than 256  you have plenty of system memory to increase that  even beyond  256
[19:15] <Bayam> how do i do it?
[19:15] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I print to JPEG?
[19:15] <coz_> shawn__,  rathe  F1  or  F2  or Delete button
[19:15] <IdleOne> Bayam: do what? install ubuntu?
[19:15] <cellofellow> fission6: manually editting /etc/fstab afaik. htere might be an easier way (one that works for wireless, for example, or a GUI) but I don't know of any.
[19:15] <Bayam> from ubuntu to ubuntustudio app
[19:15] <shawn__> coz_, whats a decent size to increase it to?
[19:15] <cellofellow> !ingo ubuntu-studio-desktop
[19:16] <cellofellow> !info ubuntu-studio-desktop
[19:16] <cellofellow> meh
[19:16] <coz_> shawn__,  minimum 256  if possible increase that to 512
[19:16] <IdleOne> Bayam: you can install applications using Synaptic package Manager
[19:16] <fission6> cellofellow: is t hta itm, do i need to install anything to support nfs
[19:16] <cellofellow> I know there's an ubuntu-studio package.
[19:16] <Bayam> how?
[19:16] <cellofellow> fission6: there might be...
[19:16] <cellofellow> !nfs
[19:16] <Bayam> owh
[19:16] <coz_> shawn__,  then you will have to save that  setting...reboot  and see if anything is not working correctly
[19:16] <Bayam> then?
[19:16] <jcrawford> ok guys i really need some help lol.  I need to have this command run in the background with every boot of the machine: ssh -L 3306:localhost:3306 user@domain.com &
[19:16] <Bayam> can you teach me
[19:16] <IdleOne> Bayam: go to System > Administration > Synaptic. select the app you want and then click apply
[19:16] <shawn__> coz_, ok i will check that out. thanks for the pointers
[19:16] <jcrawford> i added it to /etc/init.d/mysql_tunnel but it does not seem to be connecting
[19:16] <coz_> shawn__,  no problem...let us know if that helps at all
[19:17] <jcrawford> I have setup my keys and i can ssh in terminal without the need for a password
[19:17] <Bayam> then?
[19:17] <IdleOne> Bayam: then what? Use the application
[19:17] <mMezquitale> bayam sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[19:17] <Araneidae> Any fix for missing shared library libstdc++.so.5? Seems Ubuntu 9.10 is missing the libstdc++5 package...
[19:17] <cellofellow> jcrawford: you probably need to put those keys in /root instead of ~.
[19:17] <g4br13l> ::: Bayam [n=wann@203.82.79.110] pediu um VERSION de #ubuntu.
[19:17] <mphill_> when i want to resize windows the corners are near impossible to select and drag, there is like a 3 pixel area you need to get the pointer on, is there anyway to improve this? I am using metacity, maybe I need to switch to emerald?
[19:17] <shawn__> coz_, could this be my issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/416073
[19:17] <cellofellow> mMezquitale: yay! somebody knows the package name
[19:17] <jcrawford> hmm
[19:17] <jcrawford> cellofellow, i will try that now
[19:18] <wrapster> cellofellow: give me a few mins here.. its a little tough to decide :)
[19:18] <coz_> shawn__,  looking   hold on
[19:18] <cellofellow> wrapster: backups are recommended
[19:18] <wrapster> cellofellow: ive done it already... im just mounting all the partitions to see if the data there is necessary or not...
[19:18] <mMezquitale> cellofellow, I'm using ubuntustudio, isn't everyone else?!?
[19:19] <cellofellow> mMezquitale: fraid not
[19:19] <wrapster> cellofellow: but one more thing.. the partition numbers displayed here will be the same as that being displayed on the installed machine right...
[19:19] <cellofellow> I intended to install UbuntuStudio along side regular Ubuntu, but it didn't work out.
[19:19] <cellofellow> wrapster: yeah
[19:19] <jcrawford> cellofellow, can you explain why though?
[19:19] <apeepa> hello everyone, I have a webservice where I recieve XML posts trough HTTP (php CURL) .. I want to setup my iptables so I am protected against attacks, can someone please point me int he right direction since I am really new at this.
[19:19] <cellofellow> wrapster: if they're all out of order you can rename them
[19:19] <coz_> shawn__,   that is certainly possible...but  since I am not up on all intel issues  you could go to #intel  channel and see if they have any solutions especially for kernel version
[19:19] <jcrawford> because when i login it should connect
[19:19] <coachz> that was easy :-)
[19:20] <jcrawford> or is everything run as root on startup?
[19:20] <mMezquitale> Bayam, once you install ubuntustudio-desktop you have to install the realtime kernel to lower latency in your applications: sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[19:20] <coachz> xp dead, now running ubuntu . yay
[19:20] <cellofellow> jcrawford: cause the ssh command will be running as root and need the keys to be in /root where it will access them.
[19:20] <cellofellow> jcrawford: /root/.ssh/ in particular.
[19:20] <wrapster> cellofellow: i dont want to delete sda1 which has trash now . only to reboot and see.. that sda1 did not have trash but something important
[19:20] <jcrawford> cellofellow, will that still forward my port even though my app is not running as root?
[19:20] <shawn__> coz_, will check that out as well, do you know what server the intel channel is on?
[19:20] <wrapster> cellofellow: this wont happen right.
[19:20] <jcrawford> cellofellow, yea i followed you on the .ssh/
[19:20] <cellofellow> jcrawford: also, may want to put -fN options on the SSH command. -f means fork to background and -N means don't run anything on the server.
[19:20] <coz_> shawn__,   I dont want to guide you in the wrong direction..so...any input from any of the bug reports and also other channels  is always good to keep in mind before making many changes the the system
[19:21] <jcrawford> cellofellow, ah thanks for that tip will do that now
[19:21] <cellofellow> wrapster: they will be the same.
[19:21] <kossan> Anyone with any advice on where to even start look why my screensaver isn't working?
[19:21] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I print to JPEG?
[19:21] <jcrawford> so ssh -fNL then?
[19:21] <cellofellow> jcrawford: yeah
[19:21] <k0d3g3ar> ne1 got one of those Dell 10v Mini Netbooks with Ubuntu on it?  if so, what do you think of it?
[19:21] <jcrawford> or do they have to be seperate -f -N -L
[19:21] <cellofellow> jcrawford: as long as L is last
[19:21] <jcrawford> then i can remove the & right?
[19:21] <cellofellow> jcrawford: yes
[19:21] <jcrawford> since i have added -f
[19:21] <jcrawford> ok
[19:22] <Funzo> kossan: does it just not come or does it look all messed up
[19:22] <Jookya> im having issues with getting DMRAID going on ubuntu 7.1
[19:22] <coachz> how do i get the Nvidia driver for my 7900 GS please ?
[19:22] <kossan> Funzo: It won't even start fading
[19:22] <jcrawford> should i chmod 755?
[19:22] <hedkandi> hello
[19:22] <cellofellow> jcrawford: no
[19:22] <hedkandi> golly I'm so unhappy can anyone help me?
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: wait, what are you chmodding?
[19:23] <hedkandi> if I enter sudo chown bob file it refuses because I have no user called bob!
[19:23] <jcrawford> cellofellow, /etc/init.d/mysql_forward
[19:23] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks... where is my network icon on karmic?  i dont see a thing to pick wireless networks?  i tried starting up nm-applet but its not working
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: 755 yes
[19:23] <jcrawford> thanks
[19:23] <hedkandi> how do I over-ride this idiot behaviour?
[19:23] <rantjuho> Hi..
[19:23] <jackturri> Hey there, I need to ignore Migration Assistant in the Ubuntu installer. I ran "ubiquity --no-migration-assistant" but in the final step, before installation confirmation, it shows and old partition with Ubuntu 9.04. I didn't want to detect this partition to use with Migration Assistant, this partition is corrupted and crashes my new installation on another partition. :/
[19:23] <Funzo> kossan: try previewing the screensaver and see if it comes on
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: make sure the /root/.ssh/id_rsa file is 400
[19:23] <IdleOne> hedkandi: how can it make bob owner if bob doesnt exist?
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: and owned by root.
[19:24] <cellofellow> gah, he left
[19:24] <kossan> Funzo: Already tried that and yes it does.
[19:24] <hedkandi> IdleOne, easily, the owner is maintained independent of the users database
[19:24] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus?
[19:24] <fission6> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting  does that mean i do not have access as a result of my ip not being whitelisted or that i am using the wrong user name?
[19:25] <hedkandi> IdleOne: I can have a string in a database called "bob" because it is three characters how hard it it to maintain three characters?
[19:25] <kruqnut2> dc/d
[19:25] <kruqnut2> anyways
[19:25] <c1h23r456i78910> how can I register with IRC, and access all the chat?
[19:25] <wrapster> cellofellow: ok decided which one to delete.. but when i try deleting it says unmount first
[19:25] <IdleOne> hedkandi: how does bob access file if he isn't a user?
[19:25] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  a file has to be owned by a user or group
[19:25] <cellofellow> c1h23r456i78910: /msg nickserv register apassword
[19:25] <literal> I'm connected to the internet via mobile broadband, and I want to share the connection over wifi. How do I do this? I tried picking "shared to other computers" in the ipv4 wifi settings, but nothing happens.
[19:25] <hedkandi> IdleOne, he doesn't.
[19:25] <kruqnut2> Im trying to install DMRAID in order to mount an ntfs softraid partition. I can't get online on linux so i am trying to download the packages to a flash drive, then install them off the flash
[19:25] <IdleOne> !register c1h23r456i78910
[19:26] <cellofellow> wrapster: then unmount it. You can do that from within gparted, just right click it.
[19:26] <c1h23r456i78910> cellowfellow : in terminal?
[19:26] <IdleOne> !register | c1h23r456i78910
[19:26] <hedkandi> IdleOne, not yet anyway
[19:26] <coachz> how do i get the Nvidia driver for my 7900 GS please ?
[19:26] <c1h23r456i78910> !register
[19:26] <coachz> i want to setup dual monitors
[19:26] <cellofellow> c1h23r456i78910: in the IRC client
[19:26] <kossan> Funzo: What is the screensaver a part of? is it gnome, x11 or what?
[19:26] <paranoid_ndroid> is there any way to print a file to a jpeg file in ubuntu?
[19:26] <hedkandi> IdleOne, so what if he's not listed in the users database?
[19:26] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:26] <IdleOne> hedkandi: then he is does not exist
[19:26] <wrapster> cellofellow: no the unmount option is not highlighed... i saw
[19:26] <hedkandi> IdleOne, I'm not an idiot nube who can't tell the difference between a user and a box of sardines
[19:26] <wrapster> cellofellow: i cannot click it.
[19:26] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  you have to create the user record first to assign ownership
[19:26] <cellofellow> wrapster: unmount everything in that drive, including swap.
[19:26] <IdleOne> hedkandi: I didn't say you were
[19:27] <kruqnut2> my problem is that when I try to install these files, I keep getting dependency broken errors etc before i am able to install all the dependencies for DMRAID, Im using the gutsy gibbon version, 7.10, am i downloading the wrong files? on packages.ubuntu.com there are no gutsy files, just dapper then the one after gutsy
[19:27] <hedkandi> IdleOne, my point is that if I am root, then I can assign ownership as I please
[19:27] <kruqnut2> what should i download to make this work?
[19:27] <hedkandi> My system is not going to break just because I have a file assigned to a non-existant user
[19:27] <wrapster> cellofellow: none have the option to unmount .opeb
[19:27] <wrapster> cellofellow: open
[19:27] <IdleOne> hedkandi: trying to understand the logic, if there is no user to access file then how can he own file? he does not exist
[19:27] <hedkandi> IdleOne, as I said, I'm not an idiot nube I know the logic
[19:28] <cellofellow> wrapster: hm
[19:28] <hedkandi> IdleOne, The more powerful logic is to ask whether it is feasible for the system to try to maintain
[19:28] <coachz> cellofellow,  can you help me out for a min
[19:28] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  you are spending more time telling everyone you are not a noob, than reading those that are trying to help ou
[19:28] <wrapster> if i try from the terminal it says /dev/sda5 not mounted.
[19:28] <hedkandi> IdleOne, an existant user for every file
[19:28] <jackturri> Hey there, I need to ignore Migration Assistant in the Ubuntu installer. I ran "ubiquity --no-migration-assistant" but in the final step, before installation confirmation, it shows and old partition with Ubuntu 9.04. I didn't want to detect this partition to use with Migration Assistant, this partition is corrupted and crashes my new installation on another partition. :/
[19:28] <wrapster> cellofellow: ive decided to delete sda5
[19:28] <IdleOne> hedkandi: well then if you know it, you don't seem to understand it. btw just because someone is a nube as you put it does not make them an idiot.
[19:28] <cellofellow> coachz: sure
[19:28] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:29] <bezimena> hallo benni bistu da
[19:29] <Funzo> kossan: I'm not 100% sure, look into the gnome-screensaver package and see, but there is an X function that should make your screen go black after a certain amount of time of inactivity regardless of your settings, so if this isnt happenning it means one of your apps is telling the system not to go into screensaver mode, is movie player open?
[19:29] <coachz> is this where i need to be to get nvidia driver ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:29] <kruqnut2> can anyone help me with my problem with ubuntu 7.10
[19:29] <alabd_> how to give gava path /path/java.bin to firefox
[19:29] <hedkandi> okay then many thanks for your help.
[19:29] <kruqnut2> is ubuntu 7.10 no longer supported at all by the ubuntu team?
[19:29] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  in unix everything is a file, and everything needs an owner.  you can't have a file without an owner, and therefore you can't have a resource in unix without an owner.
[19:29] <wrapster> cellofellow: ok .. this is what it says.. please unmount any logical partition having a higer number than 5.
[19:29] <acuster> hey all, what is the name of the screenshot applet?
[19:30] <wrapster> cellofellow: but then again none have the option unmount clickable
[19:30] <coachz> i think i got it
[19:30] <kossan> Funzo: No, only irssi and firefox. But screensaver works the first time or so when i reboot the computer
[19:30] <Guest26162> How do I make pidgin flash or do something when I get a message?
[19:30] <cellofellow> wrapster: in terminal type "mount"
[19:30] <cellofellow> wrapster: then you can use "sudo umount"
[19:30] <Guest26162> or bounce around in the dock
[19:31] <cellofellow> maybe -f to force
[19:31] <kossan> Funzo: So something is destroying the gnome-screensaver probably
[19:31] <Funzo> try a complete removal and reinstall
[19:31] <wrapster> cellofellow: not working
[19:32] <paranoid_ndroid> imagemagick does the trick, thx
[19:32] <Funzo> kossan: xscreensaver is another important package you might want to try reinstalling
[19:32] <cellofellow> wrapster: what's it say?
[19:32] <lianimator> hi, I'm trying to build rhythmbox from source, but the package dependency errors keep coming up. is there a faster way to install all the dependencies?
[19:32] <Funzo> sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox
[19:32] <wrapster> cellofellow: umount2 :invalid arg ; umount :/dev/sda5 not mounted
[19:32] <cellofellow> Funzo: beat me too it
[19:33] <Funzo> figured I was racing someone haha
[19:33] <cellofellow> wrapster: but it shows as mounted in mount?
[19:33] <kruqnut2> can anyone help me with my problem with gutsy and packages?
[19:33] <inh> lsusb shows my mouse and such, when i unplug it it goes away, it works whe ni plug it back in, but it will randomly die, or start acting jerky
[19:33] <Funzo> kruqnut2: what does that mean?
[19:33] <wrapster> cellofellow: no it does not
[19:33] <cellofellow> wrapster: that is just bizarre
[19:34] <kruqnut2> funzo I need files for ubuntu 7.10(gutsy) to install DMraid
[19:34] <Jordan_U> kruqnut2: Gutsy is no longer supported ( and no longer recieving security updates )
[19:34] <wrapster> cellofellow: a bug?
[19:34] <kossan> Funzo: I'm now going to play the waiting game and see if it was gnome-screensaver that did it
[19:34] <kruqnut2> i found the gutsy packages now, so im trying to download libdevmapper-dev and the webpage says two or more packages specified (libdevmapper-dev gutsy)
[19:34] <kruqnut2> and i can't download them
[19:34] <kruqnut2> jordan so how do i get the packages i need to run DMraid?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> kruqnut2: Why not use hardy or karmic?
[19:34] <Funzo> kossan: also try reinstalling the xscreensaver package
[19:35] <Funzo> before you play the waiting game
[19:35] <PFA> i'm installing ubuntu and the partition resizer tool has been hanging at 0% for at least ten minutes. is this normal?
[19:35] <kruqnut2> mainly because gutsy is what i downloaded a couple years ago, i need to access my NTFS raid and i don't have a fast enough connection to download a new version
[19:36] <norbert__> ubermerc avi. got vent, ts and stuff. no noobs pls
[19:36] <Funzo> kruqnut2: do you have a link for the package?
[19:36] <kruqnut2> my problem is thata  virtual basic library file for windows is corrupted and I can't rpelace it in windows
[19:36] <kruqnut2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libdevmapper-dev
[19:36] <Jordan_U> kruqnut2: old-releases.ubuntu.com, but promise you will upgrade if you actually want to *use* that system
[19:36] <kruqnut2> so im trying to use another OS to access it
[19:36] <CountDown> Resume from suspend works before I login to my laptop, but not after.  I'm guessing some hardware driver isn't resuming correctly.  I'd like to figure out which hardware drivers are loaded before login and which are loaded after so I can compare the two lists and come up with a list of suspect drivers.  What's the best way of doing this?
[19:37] <Funzo> PFA: that's a little scary but I have found that app to be incredibly reliable from my experience so don't freak out yet, I would be very surrised if it didnt recover from that even if just to say it failed
[19:37] <Funzo> PFA: leave it for up to 45 minutes I would say before getting worried
[19:38] <CountDown> I suppose I could run an init script that dumps lsmod to a file.
[19:38] <kossan> Funzo: hmm, I don't got the "xscreensaver" onlt data and gl
[19:38] <Funzo> CountDown: /var/log/syslog
[19:39] <kruqnut2> jordan im at that website, are all the packages grouped into single archives?
[19:39] <Funzo> yeah that's what I mean sorry
[19:39] <Parsi> after loading desktop, when I move mouse or press a key, It hangs:( Ubuntu 9.10 DVD
[19:39] <kruqnut2> i nacigated to /ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386 and the files are just archives named packages
[19:39] <jcrawford> cellofellow, any idea why that would not work after the changes you just suggested?  I cannot connect to mysql using localhost 3306 and I should be able to if the tunnel command worked
[19:39] <Funzo> .deb files are archived and they install an entire program yes
[19:40] <kruqnut2> not what i meant exactly funzo
[19:40] <kruqnut2> the file im downloading si called packages.bz2
[19:40] <Parsi> after loading desktop, when I move mouse or press a key, It hangs:( Ubuntu 9.10 DVD
[19:41] <Funzo> okay sorry, I'm not sure
[19:41] <jcrawford> here is the output on the command line: http://paste2.org/p/525204
[19:41] <kruqnut2> ubuntu 7.10 shoudl open bz2 archives right out the box right?
[19:42] <Parsi> I cannot use ubuntu 9.10 :(
[19:42] <Parsi> it stop working after loading desktop
[19:43] <kermit> if i dont type for 40 seconds my screen gets really dim, how do i stop this?
[19:43] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:43] <manofsky> Hello I try to download this game http://freeonlinegames.com//games/potty-racers/potty-racers.swf from the site using wget but I get 0 in the file size any idea to download this game ?
[19:44] <noone> @Parsi: are you using Karmic?
[19:44] <Parsi> noone: hah? Im in windows now
[19:44] <Parsi> I cannot start ubuntu
[19:44] <noone> there is some problems with compiz fusion
[19:44] <Parsi> 9.10 does not work
[19:45] <noone> yes
[19:45] <hlfshell> I am having intermittent internet via an ethernet connection -  some times it works, some times it doesnt. i regularly reset it via ifconfig eth0 down / ifconfig eth0 up, but this aint doing crap. i've also done dhclient eth0
[19:45] <Parsi> noone: live dvd
[19:45] <noone> you should remove compiz
[19:45] <phisher1> oO
[19:45] <addisonj> Parsi, start with a gnome safe shell (jsut change your session) then disable compiz
[19:45] <noone> yes
[19:45] <phisher1> if you are having problems with compiz, you don't have to remove compiz.. just don't use it.
[19:45] <Parsi> addisonj: 9.04 works fine
[19:45] <phisher1> or fix it.
[19:45] <hlfshell> anyone have any idea how i can get internet regularly working on my machine
[19:45] <hlfshell> ?
[19:46] <addisonj> what error are you getting>
[19:46] <noone> i have tried to fix, but...
[19:46] <coachz> twinview ftw !
[19:46] <cellofellow> coachz: nice :)
[19:46] <o-o> hlfshell: home network or corporate?
[19:46] <Parsi> addisonj: after loading desktop, when is move mouse it hangs:(
[19:46] <coachz> 2   1920x1200 displays in sweet melony cantoloupe ubuntu colors
[19:46] <Parsi> i'm trying live cd, live cd does not work
[19:47] <noone> yes
[19:47] <hlfshell> home network o-o. ive also tested the connection on multiple other machines - they work fine. also, on htis particular machine, it worked as for 12 hours ago.
[19:47] <noone> the problem is compiz
[19:47] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:47] <coachz> fwiw, the Ubuntu software center is sweet too
[19:48] <cellofellow> coachz: twinview works fine on my system but compiz does flicker when I use that large a screen. Normally doesn't bother me.
[19:48] <o-o> hlfshell: You have DHCP router on your modem right? What does dmesg say?
[19:48] <Parsi> guys, I cannot start ubuntu with LiveCD
[19:48] <coachz> flicker how
[19:48] <hlfshell> hold on ill pastebin dmesg
[19:48] <coachz> refresh rate ?
[19:48] <mcurran> Parsi:  Do you get an error message?  What happens?
[19:48] <noone> @Parsi: your desktop freeze after log on right?
[19:48] <cellofellow> coachz: oh, just sometimes things disappear which shouldn't for a millisecond or two.
[19:48] <hlfshell> http://pastebin.com/m4f9df9f7 o-o
[19:48] <coachz> ok
[19:49] <Parsi> mcurran: no error,everything freeze
[19:49] <Parsi> noone: yes
[19:49] <cellofellow> I think it's my cheap little video card which has 256MB shared memory.
[19:49] <mcurran> Parsi:  Do you want to run the live cd or just install?  If you're trying to install, use the text insaller instead
[19:50] <noone> @Parsi: when i tried livecd I've got the same problem with you
[19:50] <mcurran> It's probably compiz or the update manager freezing things, or maybe burn a new disc
[19:50] <Parsi> mcurran: I want to run live cd
[19:50] <Xserver> it looks like i am stuck with bind9 configuration
[19:50] <noone> i'm sure the problem is compiz
[19:50] <Parsi> noone: what you did?
[19:50] <kossan> Funzo: Nop. reinstalling didn't do anything unless I should try a reboot to
[19:51] <metropolis> Does anyone know of a way to have some persistent text / naming on each viewport in compiz ? I can "name" the workspaces (and get the workspace switcher to show this), but only when visual effects are set to "none"
[19:51] <noone> I installed to Harddrive and then i removed compiz
[19:51] <Xserver> i can resolve hostname on my DNS server using the server IP
[19:51] <Xserver> but when i use the DNS IP on my PC , i can't resolve any DNS
[19:52] <seanicus> wait, you can name workspaces, metropolis ?
[19:52] <Funzo> kossan: feel free to try, I'd recommend posting on the forum and see if someone can help
[19:52] <noone> when i reinstall compiz, the problem happened again
[19:52] <metropolis> seanicus: at least, I used to be able to
[19:52] <noone> note that I have disabled all the effect
[19:52] <Parsi> noone: oh! it's shit without effects
[19:53] <metropolis> I saw some chatter on the net that it's a function of using compiz, but maybe not. In any case, I just really really want to have a workspace per project, and then label them as such
[19:53] <metropolis> because sometimes I get lost with 9 workspaces
[19:53] <seanicus> I would like to know how to, metropolis .  Also, is it possible to have a theme or background for each workspace?
[19:53] <tsimpson> Parsi: the FloodBots are not human
[19:53] <o-o> hlfshell: nothing visible there.
[19:53] <Parsi> tsimpson: ok
[19:54] <Counterspell> Anyone getting serious Firefox performance issues after upgrading on 9.04?
[19:54] <Xserver> damn.. where does my named.conf.local file go everytime i make it ?
[19:54] <Parsi> noone: is there another desktop env.?
[19:54] <noone> there is some
[19:54] <coachz> wow, mapping to a windows share is SO easy
[19:54] <hlfshell> o-o, you mean nothing problematic visible or nothing about eth0 being viisble?
[19:54] <noone> KDE, xfce, etc
[19:54] <coachz> thanks UBUNTU !
[19:54] <metropolis> seanicus: I agree, i would love to have per-workspace wallpapers
[19:55] <o-o> hlfshell, nothing that would indicate a problem with the driver.
[19:55] <hlfshell> thanks anyway o-o
[19:55] <o-o> hlfshell, strage clocks though. what driver is this?
[19:55] <Xserver>  named[5460]: the working directory is not writable
[19:55] <Xserver> do i need to chmod the named directory ?
[19:55] <o-o> hlfshell, unused clock? Is this an embeded system?
[19:55] <noone> parsi: did you try kubuntu?
[19:56] <rick__> can someone help me troubleshoot banshee on karmic?  It starts up for a second on the task bar but then just closes out.
[19:56] <noone> it's KDE env, a nice one.
[19:56] <hlfshell> its an embedded system, yes.
[19:56] <hlfshell> its an embedded system, yes. o-o
[19:56] <Parsi> noone: no
[19:56] <erUSUL> rick__: any clue if you launch it freom a terminal ?
[19:57] <rick__> if i open terminal and type banshee-1 it just hangs and doesn't display anything
[19:57] <o-o> hlfshell, well thats a challenge in terms of system stability.
[19:57] <hlfshell> but what i dont get o-o  is that it either works or it doesnt, and its almost every other day
[19:57] <hlfshell> with no changes made
[19:58] <o-o> could take some doing to debug that and I usually get paid for stuff like that...
[19:58] <MkS1992> hello
[19:58] <country0129> Can someone walk me through configuring and setting up my DSL (USB connected) on my old Compaq computer
[19:58] <CountDown> Funzo: Thanks, I'll check out /var/log/syslog.
[19:59] <[zz]> so... many... users
[19:59] <[zz]> Okay, question time.
[19:59] <addisonj> country0129, you try googling it first?
[19:59] <country0129> Yes, I did, and drew zip.
[19:59] <erUSUL> !adsl | country0129
[19:59] <country0129> Tried what was out there and it didn't work.
[20:00] <addisonj> well the USB connection is probably going to make it more difficult but try that guide ubottu posted and see how it goes
[20:00] <[zz]> I'm running 9.10, and I inexplicably can't play .avi. I've tried several different players, and none of them have worked.
[20:00] <rick__> i had banshee running once with my ipod by doing a killall -9 nautilus in terminal, then connecting my ipod, then starting nautilus, and finally starting banshee.  it worked but then when restarting and just trying to open banshee without the ipod connected, it won't open anymore
[20:00] <[zz]> Does anyone know what could possibly be causing this and how I would fix it?
[20:00] <country0129> I'll go try it again.
[20:00] <noone> install gstreamer
[20:00] <rick__> [zz] i would reccomend vlc player
[20:00] <[zz]> rick__: doesn't work.
[20:01] <Parsi> noone: anything to replace Compiz?
[20:01] <davebs> I had some free time on my hands today so I setup dual WAN, does anyone know any better ways to load balance than using "nexthop"?
[20:01] <rick__> did you install gstreamer also like noone said?
[20:01] <noone> Parsi: maybe no, in my own opinion
[20:01] <Funzo> [zz] vlc player can play anything and doesnt share its codecs with the rest of the system like the gnome apps so it definitely wont fail even if you just have to install the correct plugins
[20:01] <[zz]> it appears to already be on there from aptitude's reaction to my attempt to install it
[20:02] <Parsi> noone: older version of compiz works fine
[20:02] <addisonj> zz, did you grab ubuntu restricted?
[20:02] <Parsi> can i install that?
[20:02] <Funzo> [zz] alt + f2 and run vlc if you can't find it in the menu
[20:02] <noone> parsi: you should try
[20:02] <[zz]> Funzo: I was referring to gstreamer
[20:02] <dc_361> Hi ebody
[20:03] <rick__> how do you run banshee from terminal?  just type in banshee?
[20:03] <dc_361> i have some trouble installing office 2007
[20:04] <dc_361> i have a message that says that i must log in with a different usser
[20:04] <andrew__> próba łączności
[20:04] <dc_361> it appears just as i open excel, word or any other office program
[20:04] <andrew__> ok.jest ktoś tam
[20:05] <fabio_> #
[20:05] <andrew__> czy ktoś pisze po polsku
[20:05] <noone> Parsi: I think it conflict with the hardware. Some of my friends installed karmic and it worked fine.
[20:05] <kostkon> !pl | andrew__
[20:05] <andrew__> ok
[20:05] <aegimius1> how can i get my ubuntu PC to control or communicate with my windows PC? i'm trying to use remote desktop viewer to see my windows PC, but it won't work. i keep trying to use my windows pc's ip address(subnet mask). no luck
[20:06] <aegimius1> windows 7
[20:06] <matteo_> Ciao a tutti. Ho bisogno di aiuto
[20:06] <matteo_> chi mi aiuta?
[20:06] <edoceo> Which package has the tools: /usr/share/openldap/migration/migrate_passwd.pl
[20:07] <matteo_> Hi, guys. I need help
[20:07] <alabd_> should package sun-java-jre be installed befire using those java plugins in ff ?
[20:07] <hydester> hi.  i used to use ssh -D to use firefox via socks proxy.  now it no longer works.  it doesn't work in chrome or firefox, so i think i can rule out the browser.  how do i find out why it stopped working?
[20:07] <erUSUL> !it | matteo_
[20:07] <erUSUL> !hi | matteo_
[20:08] <mintux> I have iso image a cd and I want to make 15 copies from it . are there any program (like clone in windows ) do a lot of copy and when writing of a cd finished  request next blank cd and start copy automatically ?
[20:08] <jcrawford> alabd_, well how will the JAVA plugins work if there is no JRE to run them?
[20:08] <edoceo> mintux: simple shell wrapper around wodim would work
[20:09] <edoceo> for i in $(seq 1 15) do; wodim -eject -sao dev=/dev/sr0 image.iso; done
[20:09] <jcrawford> the answer I would say is you probably should have the JRE installed before trying to run them, however I also believe that unless you opted out of it OpenJDK is installed by default with Ubuntu so they may work without Sun's JRE
[20:09] <ubuspire> does anyone here know how i can change the options network manager will pass on to dnsmasq on interfaces set to "shared"
[20:09] <mintux> edoceo: does it work ? did you test it ?
[20:09] <Jo> does anybody know here why #linux is not accescible?
[20:09] <edoceo> mintux: does what work? that snip I sent you or wodim?
[20:09] <edoceo> wodim works great
[20:09] <ubuspire> Jo: ##linux
[20:10] <edoceo> that script you'll have to fiddle with for your environment
[20:10] <mintux> no that shell script
[20:10] <edoceo> try it
[20:10] <jcrawford> that's something I was wondering.  I have a mac pro and I am installing Ubuntu on it but how will I eject my dvd drive?  There's no button on a mac pro as mac's have the eject keyboard key
[20:10] <erUSUL> Jo: maybe is only for registered users ?
[20:10] <frostburn> how does one configure vino to allow all connections without local permissions?
[20:10] <mintux> ok
[20:10] <ubuspire> jcrawford, linux has the "eject" command
[20:10] <frostburn> i.e. the dialog box
[20:11] <jcrawford> ubuntulog, what is that command?
[20:11] <Jo> erUSUL: no its for everyone
[20:11] <matteo_> Could someone help me, please?
[20:11] <ubuspire> Jo: try joining ##linux rather than #linux
[20:11] <erUSUL> !ask | matteo_
[20:11] <bilal> hay
[20:11] <wuffi600> got the solution at http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/
[20:11] <wuffi600> thanx to you.
[20:12] <bilal> i have grand pb de config asterisk
[20:12] <Jo> ubuspire: does'nt work, I get rederected to #overflow. What's that actually?
[20:12] <jcrawford> nice at work at-least it looks like the mac keyboard eject key actually ejects the drive :D
[20:12] <jcrawford> i'm all set then
[20:12] <ubuspire> Jo: if there are too many users in the chan then you end up in overflow. try in a few min
[20:12] <Jo> ok :)
[20:13] <bilal> i want to install en sony laptob
[20:13] <jcrawford> jo i just joined fine
[20:13] <jcrawford> maybe it is only for +r
[20:13] <jcrawford> heh
[20:13] <matteo_> Hi. When I start Compiz Mangaer, I have a black desktop and no icons.
[20:13] <bilal> asterisk help
[20:14] <ubuspire> jcrawford, correct. if you aren't +r then you also would end up in ##overflow
[20:14] <Jo> jcrawford: bizarre, still overflow
[20:14] <stratovarius> hi all
[20:14] <Jo> ubuspire; what is +r ?
[20:14] <jcrawford> Jo: register your nickname or identify to it
[20:14] <jcrawford> Jo: /msg nickserv help register
[20:14] <Jo> jcrawford: tx
[20:14] <jcrawford> Jo: /msg nickserv help identify
[20:14] <bilal> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[20:14] <stratovarius> im using kmess under ubuntu but characters in contact list are too small...may I get them bigger? thanks
[20:14] <bilal> i have pb with asterisk help
[20:14] <Deathvalley122> about time someone gets on my bug report ...
[20:15] <jcrawford> bilal, you have peanut butter?
[20:15] <jcrawford> haha
[20:15] <bilal> wath
[20:15] <alabd_> which one of ubuntu rep servers has best speed ?
[20:15] <jcrawford> alabd_, the one closest to you...
[20:15] <country0129> The Ubuntu help for setting up ADSL didn't work for me.  Can someone help me set up my computer to recognize my router, connected by a USB?
[20:16] <kbp> I've got a problem: when booting, Ubuntu is stuck at hdd routine checking. It's, like. freeze. I had to press ESC to skip before it entered checking, otherwise I cannot press ESC later when it's freeze. Any idea how to fix it? (e.g. permanent disable hdd check) ?
[20:16] <jcrawford> kbp, maybe you should let the check run, it may take a while
[20:16] <jcrawford> but until it runs you will get that everytime you boot
[20:16] <alabd_> jcrawford: do you mean bandwitch of all are the same ?
[20:17] <h4f> how do I reload uvcvideo ?
[20:17] <jcrawford> alabd_, a simple answer to your question is the one that is closest to you
[20:17] <jcrawford> if you try to download from a server 2000 mi away it will probably be slower than the one 50 mi away
[20:17] <jcrawford> it also depends on how hard that particular server is getting hit
[20:18] <kbp> jcrawford: yea I let it run for half an hr and it still stopped at 26%. Tried another time, same behavior
[20:18] <jcrawford> i'm using the US server and speeds are fine then again i am in the US
[20:18] <country0129> I need help setting up my ADSL router, connected thru USB port.
[20:18] <msp3k> Hi all
[20:18] <jcrawford> kbp, not sure sorry, i figured you just got sick of waiting like most people :D
[20:18] <wildc4rd> evening all
[20:19] <esac> i logged into my ubuntu server via ssh, and i got disconnected. now when i connect i get a different session. how do i connect to the preivous session which has my work ?
[20:19] <jerrcs> Hi guys. I have an install cd and it seems to be corrupt. Is there anyway I can restart the install and just load installer components to continue the rest of the install from the internet?
[20:19] <kbp> jcrawford: ok ty :D
[20:20] <mcurran> Is there any way to force mount a ntfs network drive that's not setup as shared through samba, like you would a ntfs partition?
[20:20] <rex_> ?
[20:20] <fabio_> irc://irc.toxic-power.net/toxic
[20:20] <country0129> Any networking GURU's on this evening?
[20:20] <edoceo> mcurran: please restate - that question does not make sense
[20:21] <msp3k> Hi gurus.  I did a bare-bones basic install from an ubuntu-9.10 server CD.  After install, I found that there is no "admin" group, and no "%admin" entry in /etc/sudoers.  Is there a package I'm missing?
[20:21] <alabd_> jcrawford: what does that "select best server" do in software sources ? just see which one is nearest
[20:21] <jerrcs> alabd_: best ping times, and highest dl speeds
[20:21] <ubuspire> alabd_, i thought it checked ping times
[20:22] <alabd_> ubuspire: jerrcs but now it says check ur connection !
[20:22] <mcurran> endoceo, If I connect to a network, I can use nautilus to view a remote windows drive (NTFS), but I cannot just double click and mount it, is there a command much like the force mount for this drive?
[20:22] <country0129> Help me set up my ADSL router, connected through USB?
[20:23] <biglinux> b
[20:23] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, is there any way to connect without usb? usb network adapters suck
[20:24] <mcurran> I can easily see and open shared folders on the NTFS drive, like printer, etc.  But you can't just mount C:  I'm wondering if I can somehow.
[20:24] <country0129> Nossir.  A LAN cable won't fit my adapter.
[20:24] <country0129> It was working fine with Windoze ME
[20:25] <biglinux> v
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, usb networking requires additional drivers/modules
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, that doesnt make sence that the lan cable wont fid
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> fit*
[20:25] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:25] <jcrawford> Sylphid|netbook, it's probably just a USB version
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, is it to big or to small
[20:25] <jcrawford> i've seen those for ADSL before
[20:25] <country0129> Too small.
[20:25] <ubuspire> Sylphid|netbook, not unless its a modem (rj11) jack
[20:26] <bigvortex> I am having problems getting virtual hosts working.  localhost,   <site1>.localhost and <site2>.localhosts all go to the same place.
[20:26] <llutz> Sylphid|netbook: usbnet is shipped with all standard-kernel
[20:26] <jcrawford> it probably has a phone cable connection
[20:26] <biglinux> f
[20:26] <jerrcs> bigvortex: that's an apache problem, not an ubuntu problem?
[20:26] <bigvortex> But apache is different on Ubuntu
[20:26] <jerrcs> no it's not
[20:26] <country0129> Yes.  It's an old Compaq maching, Pentium III, with only a 10gig HD and 512 RAM
[20:27] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, sounds like you may not have a NIC
[20:27] <country0129> Used dial up when I first got it ages ago.
[20:27] <biglinux> Boboboooooooo
[20:27] <RobLikesBrunch> Can anyone recommend a good list of repositories for Karmic Koala?
[20:27] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, is your dsl connection using PPP?
[20:28] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:28] <country0129> I'm not sure.  Maybe that other protocal.
[20:28] <country0129> er, protocol.
[20:28] <jerrcs> this channel sucks :(
[20:28] <eugene_bondarenk> hi
[20:28] <bigvortex> I just set WAMP up on a windows box, there is no sites-available directory for the virtual sites.
[20:28] <llutz> country0129: plug-in the modem, look at "dmesg" after it
[20:28] <msp3k> Hi gurus.  I did a bare-bones basic install from an ubuntu-9.10 server CD.  After install, I found that there is no "admin" group, and no "%admin" entry in /etc/sudoers.  Is there a package I'm missing?
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> I have been trying to set passwordless SSH for several days already T_T
[20:29] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, do you have a user name and password to connect to the internet? if so then you use PPP if not then you likely use DHCP
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> without any luck
[20:29] <alabd_> how to fix this ?
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> I went through all types of manuals
[20:29] <alabd_> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[20:29] <jerrcs> bigvortex: sounds like you set up apache incorrectly. I'm not going to explain this as there are several guides.
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> basically they are similar to this one
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> http://swik.net/Ubuntu/Only+Ubuntu/How+to+Create+Passwordless+SSH+Private%2FPublic+Key+Pair+on+Ubuntu/b5t6e
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> what I am doing wrong
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> it simply ask password
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> in the end
[20:30] <alabd_> how to remove 127.0.0.1:8080 ip in it's memory
[20:30] <country0129> I'm connected via my laptop/wireless, 2 netbooks using Ubuntu/wireless are connected to it.  The desktop, using Windoze ME was connected to it before I install Ubuntu.
[20:30] <eugene_bondarenk> and passwordless part never happen
[20:30] <Leonard> I am very new to Linux (trying to become MS Free) while trying to load an old laptop with a linux OS, i inadvertently deleted the screen that comes up 'press del to enter cmos' screen. How can I fix this?
[20:30] <napsy> Hello. I have a bug where I can't move forward/backwardy when playing sounds(scrollbar is disabled in rhythmbox). Is there a fox for this?
[20:30] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:31] <virtus> Yatsuko: hi :)
[20:31] <Yatsuko> hi hi
[20:31] <eugene_bondarenk> does anyone have experience setting passwordless ssh?
[20:31] <Sylphid|netbook> msp3k, does sudo work for you?
[20:31] <inivex> i've done it
[20:31] <jerrcs> passwordless ssh? you mean using ssh keys?
[20:31] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah
[20:31] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: the link you pasted describes it perfect
[20:31] <roccity_> kraitos: you can try using wget in a terminal I think that has resume funtions
[20:32] <SaperR> Yo³
[20:32] <alabd_> before tunnel was used but now we dont want download via tunnel but it wants use it
[20:32] <alabd_> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[20:32] <SaperR> Hello
[20:32] <esac> im using putty. does anybody know how to connect to a specific pseudo terminal on an openssh server ?
[20:32] <country0129> It uses PPP from the router to the ISP, I think.
[20:32] <jerrcs> I have an install cd and it seems to be corrupt. Is there anyway I can restart the install and just load installer components to continue the rest of the install from the internet?
[20:32] <msp3k> Lemme find out...
[20:32] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: no PM please
[20:32] <eugene_bondarenk> ok
[20:32] <kraitos> roccity_, can you wall me through it?
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> I type ssh eugene@ip  and still get asked for password
[20:33] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: you followed step 3?
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> there are 2 steps 3 :)
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> and yes
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> I left passphrase empty
[20:34] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: pub key must be added to authorized-keys at eugene@remote-ip
[20:34] <llutz> _keys
[20:34] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:34] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah, I renamed it, copied to remote host and made sure it is 600
[20:34] <ringo999> running 9.10 on macbook pro, indicator-applet running suspend or hibernate results in screensaver instead of s2ram/s2disk. Any idea? What config files do i have to look into?
[20:34] <ckoning> hi there
[20:34] <inivex> kraitos: the download probably stopped when you killed the terminal session
[20:35] <biglinux> g
[20:35] <roccity_> kraitos: what you can do is get the link for the download like http;//www.whatever, and in a terminal type wget <space> and that link
[20:35] <eugene_bondarenk> I went through manuals that suggest changing permissions
[20:35] <eugene_bondarenk> and those that involve looking in ssh config file
[20:35] <eugene_bondarenk> everything seems fine
[20:35] <kraitos> inivex, it won't let me download anything else
[20:36] <inivex> i'm not sure what you mean?
[20:36] <mustafa> hello anyone help me????
[20:36] <eugene_bondarenk> is there any special command I need executed after copying pub to autorized_keys
[20:37] <Vesayth> Hello all. I'm having trouble resolving hostnames on my home network when connecting to it via a VPN. My home server is running Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit and client is Windows Vista 32-bit. I can ping the hostnames just fine, but when I try to use "net view \\hostname" I get System error 5. Access is denied. One thing to note is that the windows PC connects to a domain rather than a workgroup. Anyone have any ideas?
[20:37] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: no
[20:37] <inivex> eugene_bondarenk: you're copying pub from the client to the authorized of the host, right?
[20:37] <kraitos> inivex, i'm on the software center and i'm trying to download unetbootin and it says waiting for other software manager to quit. can you help?
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah
[20:37] <Vesayth> The VPN I'm using is OpenVPN
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> pub gets generate on local compa
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> comp
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> and then transfered to authorized
[20:37] <Warp4> Vesayth are you able to connect to the server locally (not over vpn)?
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> to my server
[20:37] <tehloki> Hi, uh, i just upgraded to 9.10 and on boot i get "gave up waiting for root"
[20:37] <powertool08> eugene_bondarenk: You can try adding the switch '-v' or -'vv' -'vvv' to get more verbose output. It will tell you which step of the login is failing.
[20:37] <Vesayth> Warp4: yes
[20:38] <tehloki> then when i ls /dev /dev/sda1 isn't there
[20:38] <eugene_bondarenk> oh, great idea
[20:38] <Vesayth> warp4: and I can connect with IP address over the vpn
[20:38] <eugene_bondarenk> one moment
[20:38] <tehloki> what happened to my filesystem?
[20:38] <Vesayth> warp4: just not with the hostnames
[20:38] <kraitos> i'm on the software center and i'm trying to download unetbootin and it says waiting for other software manager to quit. can you help?
[20:38] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I set a default output in alsamixer? Otherwise I have to use alsamixer -c to select my card to output to headphones.
[20:39] <country0129> Tried reboot, Kraitos?  Start all over again?
[20:39] <msp3k> Ah, nevermind, I figured it out.  The "admin" group and the "%admin" sudoers entry is generated by the user-setup udeb installer package.  Since I didn't create a user account, only a root account, the user-setup scripts were never run by the installer.
[20:39] <guntbert> eugene_bondarenk: look into /etc/ssh/sshd_config if RSAAuthentcation is set to "yes"
[20:39] <eugene_bondarenk> one moment, will do
[20:39] <tehloki> has anybody else had this root filesystem disappearing issue on upgrading?
[20:39] <eugene_bondarenk> by the way I generated dsa key
[20:40] <eugene_bondarenk> is taht fine
[20:40] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I set a default output in alsamixer? Otherwise I have to use alsamixer -c to select my card to output to headphones.
[20:40] <biglinux> g
[20:40] <inivex> kraitos: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install unetbootin"
[20:40] <country0129> Is there a patient network guru that can help me set up my ADSL router, connected to my desktop via USB port?
[20:40] <biglinux> oo
[20:40] <biglinux> tt
[20:40] <powertool08> guntbert: I have RSAAuthentication set to no and mine works, I have PubKeyAuthentication set to yes
[20:40] <biglinux> t
[20:40] <gnufreex_> guys, is there any other Archlinux suport chanell. there is no suport on #archlinux, just smalltalks
[20:41] <powertool08> eugene_bondarenk: Yes, dsa is fine
[20:41] <guntbert> powertool08: ok, I wasn't sure, I have both set to yes
[20:41] <zsolt> hi there
[20:41] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah, on both comps it is set to yes
[20:42] <biglinux1> d
[20:42] <eugene_bondarenk> ok, let me try to understand what -vvv is saying
[20:42] <Zane2> i installed win7, the ubuntu. where is the grub file to edit the boot os names and defualt time
[20:42] <triptec> I'd like a tool to grab cvs repos without hassle..?
[20:42] <eugene_bondarenk> it's sort of hard :)
[20:42] <biglinux> h
[20:42] <inivex> kraitos: if you try to install unetbootin via the command line, it will either work, or throw an error that will be of more use
[20:42] <guntbert> !root | msp3k
[20:42] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I set a default output in alsamixer? Otherwise I have to use alsamixer -c to select my card to output to headphones.
[20:42] <tehloki> Zane2: search for menu.lst
[20:42] <biglinux1> amor
[20:42] <biglinux> te amo
[20:42] <zsolt> my problem is that,when i call somebody with amsn,they hear my voice,me just for a second,than silence
[20:43] <mphill_> zsolt: sounds like a firewall issue
[20:43] <Zane2> whould it be grldr?
[20:43] <zsolt> howewer I can see the line of the incoming voice.what would be wrong?
[20:43] <SwedeMike> zsolt: does skype work for you? I had to fiddle with mute etc in pavucontrol to get voice in skype to work
[20:43] <zsolt> with skype yes
[20:44] <zsolt> i tried without firewall
[20:44] <Travis-42> How do I delete all print jobs?
[20:44] <llutz> Travis-42: lprm
[20:44] <zsolt> maybe something is wrong with alsa
[20:45] <country0129> Help me set up ADSL, connected through router by USB?
[20:45] <inivex> zsolt: something wrong with alsa? UNPOSSIBLE!
[20:45] <llutz> country0129: plug-in the modem, look at "dmesg" after it for messages about new devices. use pppoeconf after it to configure your access
[20:46] <tehloki> why are quit/joins not hidden in this channel? it's really noisy.
[20:46] <mizerydearia> Booting ubuntu, I see "* Stopping NTP server ntpd" and then failed, and then "* Starting NTP server ntpd" and it has been 4+ minutes at this point.  Is there a way to configure a shorter timeout and how can I diagnose why stopping failed?
[20:46] <country0129> dmesg didn't work.  pppoeconfig wasn't recognized as a valid command.
[20:46] <PFA> tehloki, you can hide them yourself in most IRC clients
[20:46] <BlouBlou> tehbaut: because this funtion in from your irc-client, and not from ircd
[20:47] <RobLikesBrunch> When I do alsactl store, I get this error: alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[20:47] <RobLikesBrunch> Ideas?
[20:47] <blip-> hi,  I want 9.10 64-bit.... must I download the server edition or is there a 64-bit ubuntu for desktops ?
[20:47] <llutz> !dontwork | country0129
[20:47] <alabd_> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[20:47] <tehbaut> hey, how do I watch netflix vids on ubuntu?
[20:47] <eugene_bondarenk> I really can't get enything in the output
[20:47] <alabd_> before tunnel was used but now we dont want download via tunnel but it wants use it
[20:47] <eugene_bondarenk> would you mind if I attach it somewhere for you
[20:48] <guntbert> blip-: there is a 64bit Desktop
[20:48] <llutz> !paste | eugene_bondarenk
[20:48] <zsolt> it is a bit tricky with the sndcard
[20:48] <mizerydearia> Aha.  Starting NTP server ntpd is hanging forever because....  there was no Internet connection.  Manually fixing it at another terminal, the system is still hanging and not booting fully.  How can I make the system continue booting without restarting?
[20:48] <blip-> guntbert, it's not mentioned in the main page
[20:48] <Travis-42> llutz:I can't figure out how to make it cancel all of the print jobs... I have a print queue of > 50 thanks to an adobe reader bug
[20:48] <zsolt> pulse audi,jack,alsa,oss which option is the best
[20:49] <zsolt> ?
[20:49] <tehloki> okay so i'll try and state my problem more concisely: after upgrading to 9.10, on restart, /dev/sda1 (my root filesystem) is not visible. it doesn't show up in /dev and I can't boot into ubuntu at all. Is this a common problem and if so how did other people solve it?
[20:49] <eugene_bondarenk> ok let me try :)
[20:49] <llutz> Travis-42: "man lprm" "man lpq"
[20:49] <eugene_bondarenk> sorry ahead for a long post with output
[20:49] <legend2440> blip-: click on   Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows
[20:49] <llutz> Travis-42: or try cups-frontend in browser "localhost:631" jobs
[20:50] <inivex> tehloki, the computer boots into linux?
[20:50] <guntbert> blip-: Alternative download options.... in the first part
[20:50] <Travis-42> llutz: lprm seems to be operating ok, but it doesnt remove antyhing from the queue, the cups frontend requires me to click cancel and then "back" 50 times
[20:50] <RobLikesBrunch> When I do alsactl store, I get this error: alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[20:50] <zsolt> i can see the line of the incoming voice,but without any sound
[20:50] <eugene_bondarenk> ok, here it goes
[20:50] <eugene_bondarenk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/323735/
[20:50] <tehloki> inivex: no, after selecting linux in grub, it begins to load and then stops at "waiting for root" then says "gave up waiting for root" and dumps me into a minimal shell
[20:51] <tehloki> in menu.lst root=/dev/sda1
[20:51] <eugene_bondarenk> by the way a great way to paste text :)
[20:51] <tehloki> which is where my filesystem should be, still
[20:51] <Travis-42> llutz: ah I found the setting on the frontend, thanks
[20:51] <aperson> My filesystem is messing up!  I've (twice today) have had programs close and running anything from the terminal will give and input/output error!
[20:52] <aperson> this is not the hdd
[20:52] <inivex> tehloki, try booting with a liveCD to make sure the fs is still there, and or where on the disk it is...
[20:53] <RobLikesBrunch> When I do alsactl store, I get this error: alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[20:53] <zsolt> what is the audio sink means?oss with alsa?
[20:54] <jimtuv> I have a quick question about Tracker
[20:54] <vlad29> can somebody help me with an backup error?
[20:54] <Amigadude> firefox doesn't like my start page... won't save it... is there a save prefs button somewhere I'm missing?
[20:54] <tehloki> inivex: i'm downloading the livecd image now, i was just wondering if this was a common problem with a known solution
[20:54] <tehloki> but i guess it isn't T_T
[20:55] <tehloki> i don't look forward to getting my files and then starting over
[20:55] <eugene_bondarenk> if you can understand that output, please give me at least a hint of what is wrong. because I don't even know in what direction to google now
[20:55] <inivex> tehloki, i've never heard of an upgrade blowing away a file system
[20:55] <biglinux> f
[20:55] <tehloki>  well, i doubt it's been blown away but it can't find it
[20:55] <inivex> tehloki, but when i upgraded to karmic, it broke my sound, and now i can't keep compiz running...
[20:56] <biglinux1> cante aquela
[20:56] <biglinux> espere
[20:56] <jimtuv> Amigaudude you can find the place to set firefox homepage in edit>preferences
[20:56] <Milligan> I have windows installed to a second harddrive, sdc . What would the adress to this disk be in grub to be able to chose it as boot medium ?
[20:56] <biglinux>  123 4 5000
[20:57] <geev> help i cant download new update check error on my link http://paste.ubuntu.com/323745/
[20:57] <biglinux1> a ou b
[20:57] <guntbert> biglinux: no testing here
[20:57] <Zane2> menu.lst isnt there
[20:57] <jimtuv> Does anyone know how to bring up Trackers preferences it's not in the system tray and is eating up to much processor time
[20:57] <n8tuser> Milligan -> try sudo fdisk -l   to give you the list of mountable partitions
[20:58] <Milligan> n8tuser, the disk only has one partition, and it's bootable.
[20:58] <geev> help i cant download new update check error on my link http://paste.ubuntu.com/323745/
[20:58] <PFA> i just installed Karmic on my dell inspiron 1501 laptop and it keeps freezing while the Caps Lock and Num Lock lights flash. does anyone know what this is?
[20:59] <Lostinspace_46> geev Have you done as line 54 suggests??
[20:59] <ringo999>  /quit
[20:59] <zsolt> how can I fugere out what's wrong with the incoming calling?
[20:59] <Amigadude> jimtuv: I've been doing that... then closed the the prefs... reopened it's still there but when I close firefox & restart it's back to default
[21:00] <guntbert> geev: instead of repeating every few minutes, take your time to tell us your problem *here* - don't expect everyone to follow a link and read a pastebin
[21:00] <boblesax31> R
[21:01] <Lostinspace_46> geev Have you done as line 54 suggests??
[21:01] <boblesax31> BONSOIR
[21:01] <mizerydearia> Unbutu boot sequence is hanging at http://pastebin.com/d7231c052  - How can I skip this and continue boot sequence?
[21:01] <francispereira> is there a way i can make calls using my modem connected to a phone line and use the pc  mic and speaker to talk and listen in ?
[21:01] <mizerydearia> ctrl+c doesn't help
[21:01] <mizerydearia> nor ctrl+z
[21:01] <Amigadude> jimtuv: just changed it on the about:config page still the same...  reverts back to chrome://ubufox/content/startpage.html
[21:01] <zsolt> I tried without firewall,the outgoing call is excellent,but the incoming calling disapears,I know that there is an incoming calling
[21:02] <chowder> how do you change the icon for the menu? It normally has an Ubuntu logo but I've noticed that with Gnome on other distributions people seem to have different logos.
[21:02] <geev> Lostinspace_46: here is the message http://paste.ubuntu.com/323752/ again
[21:02] <jimtuv> did this just start happening? did you do an install of a addon ?
[21:03] <tehbaut> so how do I watch netflix vids on ubuntu?
[21:03] <Lostinspace_46> geev msg me
[21:03] <Warp4> tehbaut i dont think you can
[21:04] <tehbaut> arg
[21:04] <Warp4> since netflix vids require ms silverlight
[21:04] <eugene_bondarenk> I'll try to post this problem on forum then
[21:04] <Laur_> Salut
[21:04] <eugene_bondarenk> that's sad 'cause this thing is the last thing why I can't leave windows
[21:05] <Laur_> hy
[21:05] <eugene_bondarenk> 'cause working with SVN will become full of pain
[21:05] <eugene_bondarenk> without passowrdless ssh
[21:05] <draginx> How do I install a 32-bit package ona  64-bit machine?
[21:05] <draginx> i forget the command, dpkg --force-architecture <file> ?
[21:06] <Lostinspace_46> tehbaut, Netflix says you can't and actually I don't think you can on Mac either
[21:06] <Laur_> i installed ubuntu with windows 7 and when i slect the ubuntu os he enter in cosole mode and i have this "sh:grub>" what should i type to enter in desktop mode? please help
[21:06] <songer> hello people
[21:06] <chowder> tehbaut: netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight on their site. So you can't until someone implements silverlight on Linux.
[21:06] <AJH101> Hi there - I have installed Wubi and it ran fine for a week but now it will not boot!
[21:06] <tehbaut> chowder: I thought there was a silverlight port on linux
[21:06] <draginx> chowder, isnt there na open source version of silverlight?
[21:07] <tehbaut> yeah, moon something?
[21:07] <chowder> yes, its called Moonlight but its nowhere near being complete....
[21:07] <tehbaut> hmmm
[21:07] <Jamed> chowder, tehbaut: moonlight
[21:07] <tehbaut> yep, hmmm, so has anyone actually attempted to run netflix with moonlight?
[21:07] <chowder> Jamed: I kind of just typed that....
[21:08] <Lostinspace_46> tehbaut, I take it you don't have X-Box..or blue-ray DVD?
[21:08] <Jamed> chowder: i was typing when you said that :)
[21:08] <tehbaut> Lostinspace_46: nope, just an HTPC I built
[21:08] <chowder> tehbaut: google it up
[21:08] <AJH101> Hi there - I have installed Wubi and it ran fine for a week but now it will not boot! The error message seems to indicate that something has unmounted?
[21:08] <Laur_> command for grub to enter in desktop mode ?
[21:08] <Lostinspace_46> tehbaut, I am in the same boat :(
[21:09] <kermit> if i dont type for 40 seconds my screen gets really dim, how do i stop this?
[21:09] <PFA> didn't there used to be a way to merge all the GNOME menu items into one menu under a single icon, a la the windows start menu, thereby saving tons of panel space?
[21:09] <songer> I need your help I want to install ubuntu 9.10, I have 2 hard disk 1, 160 gb with windows and other of 40 gb , I want to install ubuntu in he 40 gb but I can't selet it
[21:09] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks... where is my network icon on karmic?  i dont see a thing to pick wireless networks?  i tried starting up nm-applet but its not working
[21:10] <spark_irv> arooni-mobile: is your wireless device enabled?
[21:10] <arooni-mobile___> spark_irv, yes i'm talking to you over a wireless connection now
[21:12] <spark_irv> arooni: "nm-applet --sm-disable" is the command that's presently running for my applet. do you see it in your process list?
[21:12] <geev> Please help i get this error when i run update manager E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory
[21:12] <Lostinspace_46> songer, Do you mean that the HDD doesn't show up during install, or it'sthere and you just can't select it
[21:13] <chowder> geev: did you use sudo?
[21:13] <geev> chowder: yes i did
[21:13] <Mylesmadness> Is there a way to put ubuntu shutdown menu in the main menu thing
[21:13] <trism> PFA: on karmic you could add the main menu applet to the panel, which does that...there is also the gnome-main-menu package which uses the slab menu, although I couldn't get this working on karmic (but it works fine on jaunty, mostly because it doesn't seem to automatically add it to the add to panel menu)
[21:14] <chea> so many great tips in this channel :)
[21:14] <PFA> trism, what's the "slab menu"?
[21:14] <PFA> i haven't used ubuntu in a few years -- just starting up again
[21:14] <ryanCH> lol, there is music coming from my linux machine, but i don't see the program that could be playing this??
[21:14] <hfsdo> is there anyone here who can help me reinstalling grub? (the way on the ubuntu wiki doesn't really work)
[21:14] <rsk> ryanCH maybe firefox? some embedded video
[21:14] <chea> ryanCH: try killing sound driver
[21:14] <chea> :P
[21:14] <ryanCH> ehe
[21:14] <Lostinspace_46> geev You may have to take ownership of the file and 777 it...I have had to do that with some files
[21:15] <treyjedi> Hey everyone, new to Ubuntu, have everything working except for my VPN.  We connect to a Fortigate 300 box.  I was wondering the best way to set this up would be?
[21:15] <trism> PFA: it is kind of like the windows start menu, it has recently used applications and a search bar, along with normal menus
[21:15] <geev> Lostinspace_46: how do i do that
[21:16] <Lostinspace_46> geev msg me
[21:16] <PFA> trism, thanks
[21:16] <songer> just appears of hdd 160 but no of hdd, lostinspace_46
[21:16] <songer> hdd 40
[21:17] <tehloki> okay now i'm on a livecd and i can view my filesystem and also a new partition at /sda1 that didn't exist before, but i can't access my files because i don't have permissions
[21:17] <tehloki> is there a way i can authenticate myself as.. myself?
[21:17] <tehloki> from the liveCD?
[21:17] <grawity> tehloki: Not really - the LiveCD is a completely separate OS.
[21:18] <draginx> Anyone here have experience using amazon's mp3 downloader on 64 bit?
[21:18] <Laur_> command to enter in desktop mode for grub ? i have sh:grub> what should i type... ?
[21:18] <grawity> tehloki: Use 'sudo -s' to get root privileges
[21:18] <cankoy> Laur_: used Wubi?
[21:19] <Laur_> yah
[21:19] <Laur_> i installed win7 after that installed ubuntu 9.10
[21:19] <tehloki> bahaha i sudo chmod -R 777'd it
[21:19] <tehloki> and that worked for some reason
[21:19] <Laur_> whe i select ubuntu for OS to run... he take me in grub console..
[21:19] <mizerydearia> I am running gnome desktop environment and disabled gnome's remote desktop (system -> preferences -> remote desktop) and installed tightvncserver, however, I am not sure how to configure it so I can connect.  Any ideas?
[21:19] <tehloki> SHOULDN'T HAVE
[21:19] <tehloki> but did
[21:20] <Laur_> cankoy... next step is ? :D
[21:20] <cankoy> Laur_: wubi is peculiar, it uses a different grub (grub4dos)
[21:20] <cankoy> !wubi > Laur_
[21:21] <songer> lostinspace_46, if I install ubuntu  9.04 i can select between my to hdd
[21:21] <songer> 2 hdd
[21:21] <mizerydearia> How can I display list of files installed from a package?
[21:22] <Lostinspace_46> songer, Hmm you should with 9.10 but try 9.04..did you check sum your d/l and the burned CD?
[21:22] <songer> but If i install 9.10 I can install it just in my hdd of 160
[21:22] <guntbert> mizerydearia: dpkg -L <package>
[21:22] <mmlj4> can I change my apt sources to ubuntu and convert a debian box? or am I inviting a spectacular FAIL?
[21:22] <mizerydearia> guntbert, thanks
[21:22] <guntbert> mizerydearia: you're welcome :-)
[21:22] <fokuslee> hi i got some time to kill can anyone suggest some good karmic koala guides? like easy reading and learn some stuff, pretty new to linux
[21:23] <Lostinspace_46> songer, You could, but using 2 HHH's is better
[21:23] <ScarEye_> hello everyone, does anyone know if pssh for ubuntu is broken?
[21:23] <fokuslee> also is there real performance gain by compiling a custom kernel?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[21:24] <fokuslee> sebsebseb, hey thanks for the book looks perfect
[21:25] <ScarEye_> or does anyone know of a good parallel ssh/scp program that works with ubuntu?
[21:25] <mizerydearia> How can I determine if a vnc server/daemon that's running on a system is tightvnc and not another implementation?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: np
[21:25] <Scarra3> Afternoon
[21:26] <sebsebseb> !new |  fokuslee
[21:26] <songer> lostinspace_46, ok. already have install it ubuntu 9.04 in hdd of 40 gb and windows in hdd of 160, but i wabt toinstall ubuntu 9.10 but I can't install it in my hdd of 40 just I can in my hdd of 160 becose just showme my hdd of 160,
[21:27] <Scarra3> Im having trouble on deciding what Linux distro I should go with
[21:27] <sebsebseb> songer: use 9.04 then  whilst waiting for 10.04
[21:27] <mcurran> Scarra3 - Linux Mint 8 Helena (definately)
[21:27] <savetheWorld> Hey - has anyone heard where at dell.com you go to order the Ubuntu based version of the Inspiron Zino HD Desktop? ( Special right now at $229.) i want to order the ubuntu model -before- the price goes up!
[21:27] <Lostinspace_46> songer, try running g-parted and see if it sees both HHH's
[21:27] <Jamed> Scarra3: just try some
[21:27] <Scarra3> Ow Linux Mint 8 is finally released
[21:28] <mcurran> RC1
[21:28] <XQbit> Hello people, my friend has a problem with his WiFi, he has a HP DV2000 and the WiFi just doesn't work, it's LED shows yellow instead of blue which is the usual color when the WiFi is working.
[21:28] <Scarra3> Well Ive tried Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Debian, Slackware and FreeBSD
[21:28] <savetheWorld> Your "friend" eh? OK we try to help. (wink ink)
[21:28] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: try Mandriva 2010
[21:28] <mcurran> backtrack is fun
[21:28] <Scarra3> I hurd Mandriva was really filled with useless stuff
[21:28] <sebsebseb> mcurran: that's a security and such CD, not a desktop OS
[21:29] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: no it's not
[21:29] <mcurran> openSuse looks O.K. but I never really used it uch
[21:29] <guntbert> !ot
[21:29] <mcurran> can be
[21:29] <Lostinspace_46> XQbit, Did he make sure his card is turned on?
[21:29] <mcurran> Just run ubiquity
[21:29] <songer> how can i run  g-parted
[21:30] <XQbit> Err, it is just on when starting, we have no idea how to additionally turn it on
[21:30] <ScarEye_> can ou guys see me ?  My text?
[21:30] <Lostinspace_46> songer, You should be able to just type g-parted in the terminal
[21:30] <guntbert> ScarEye_: yes
[21:30] <Jamed> songer: alt+f2 -> gparted <enter> if it is installed
[21:30] <ScarEye_> guntbert: thanks
[21:31] <guntbert> ScarEye_:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:31] <Lostinspace_46> Jamed, Thanks I forgot about that..lol
[21:31] <iceroot_> Jamed: gksudo gparted
[21:31] <Jamed> iceroot_: right, i forgot
[21:32] <Lostinspace_46> Well, at least I'm not the only one..lol
[21:32] <songer> if I type in terminal g- parted it says command not found
[21:32] <iceroot_> songer: sudo apt-get install gparted && gksudo gparted
[21:32] <Jamed> songer: not g- parted just gparted
[21:33] <cwillu_at_work> !screencast
[21:33] <Lostinspace_46> songerThats correct..my bad on the hyphen
[21:33] <benc2> I'm trying to run an erlang app with init.d script and someone told me I need to set the HOME enviorement varaible to make it work
[21:33] <benc2> what does it means?
[21:33] <didi> Does someone know how to drop the icon of empathy from the notification area?
[21:34] <iceroot_> benc2: what is output of echo $HOME
[21:34] <infidel2> is there a way to split a screen in half in gnome, to fake dual-monitors on a laptop?
[21:34] <mcurran> infidel2 - Do you have a key for it?
[21:35] <benc2> iceroot_: iniside or outside of the init.d script?
[21:35] <benc2> iceroot_: because my script runs fine in the shell but not in the init.d script
[21:35] <lianimator> Hi, I compiled rhythmbox from source (with the fix to notify bug)  but I don't have the notify anymore.
[21:35] <iceroot_> benc2: and what is the error of the script?
[21:35] <infidel2> mcurran ?
[21:36] <benc2> iceroot_: I see examples like 'export HOME=/root' in other scripts and I don't understand what that means
[21:36] <mcurran> what's a command to compile an app from source
[21:36] <mcurran> make, make install, etc..
[21:36] <zaida> .it
[21:36] <lianimator> mcurran: ./configure
[21:36] <benc2> iceroot_: I've tried using upstart job and I don't get any error
[21:36] <benc2> iceroot_: when I check the status I get working/stopped
[21:36] <mcurran> can you go any simpler than that though
[21:36] <guntbert> benc2: I wouldn't assume there is $HOME even set in an init script
[21:36] <iceroot_> benc2: export HOME=~/
[21:36] <Jamed> mcurran: generally you should read INSTALL or README or something like that
[21:37] <benc2> iceroot_: can you explaine what it does?
[21:37] <Jamed> mcurran: its not always make make install ...
[21:37] <songer> lostintime_46, but why  when I intall ubuntu 9.04 I can see my 2 hdd and select In which one i want to install my ubuntu, and when i install ubuntu 9.10 just I can install in 1 hdd because the other one it dosn't show me
[21:37] <iceroot_> benc2: its exporting the var HOME with the path of the current home
[21:37] <epinky> benc2: open a terminal and type "echo $HOME" then figure out to fit your needs
[21:37] <benc2> guntbert: do I need to set it?
[21:37] <mcurran> yes, but is there a way to do it like CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 fakeroot debian/rules ...  etc.
[21:37] <iceroot_> benc2: ~/ is the command /alias for the home-directory of the current user
[21:38] <benc2>  iceroot_: thanks, I'll try that
[21:38] <iceroot_> benc2: if you type cd ~/ in the shell you will go into your home-directory
[21:38] <benc2> epinky: thanks
[21:38] <benc2> iceroot_: aren't the init.d/upstart scripts run as root or sometime a user without home?
[21:39] <veedeejay> italiani?
[21:39] <mcurran> So ubuntu supports wimax now?
[21:39] <epinky> !it | veedeejay
[21:39] <guntbert> benc2: please follow the other's suggestions - they are much more clear
[21:39] <iceroot_> benc2: hm, normally as root
[21:39] <veedeejay> ok grazie
[21:40] <mcurran> I was wondering if there was a way to just compile and install from source, when there is no make or configure files
[21:40] <iceroot_> mcurran: depeding on the source of course
[21:40] <iceroot_> mcurran: look at readme or install
[21:40] <gabriel_> you could use the install command
[21:41] <benc2> guntbert which one is clear?
[21:41] <mcurran> So you can't just compile source like you can the linux kernel then...
[21:41] <epinky> mcurran: you can use "gcc" and "install" commands
[21:42] <iceroot_> mcurran: again, look at the readme
[21:43] <guntbert> benc2: sorry, I never fiddled much with init scripts  - so that was only a sideline remark from me (about $HOME)
[21:43] <Mike_lifeguard> Hi, how can I stop pam_motd in libpam-modules from changing my /etc/motd?
[21:43] <mcurran> iceroot, I'm talking hypothetically, that's why i'm not interested in the developers notes, install file, etc.  I was thinking maybe just using build-essential.
[21:43] <lukasz_> zxc
[21:43] <iceroot_> mcurran: depending on the source
[21:43] <benc2> guntbert: I still don't understand what you mean
[21:43] <iceroot_> mcurran: some needs to be configured
[21:43] <iceroot_> mcurran: some can run with gcc and so on
[21:44] <mcurran> thanks guys, this install package looks pretty useful.
[21:45] <guntbert> benc2: please don't bother - I'm a bit too tired to have a longer line of thinking - sorry to distract you
[21:46] <benc2> iceroot_: I think your suggestion works. When I type 'env - erl' gives an error but 'env - HOME="/home/user" erl' works
[21:46] <benc2>  iceroot_: I still need to understand what 'env -' does and why do I need this HOME variable.
[21:46] <benc2>  iceroot_: thanks
[21:46] <x_or> I'm trying to burn an ISO to a SD card.  I cannot figure out the command line command to use.  I am trying to install from a linux version (Xandros on EEE) which I don't think has graphical burning utilities.  Can anyone suggest what I should do?  I have dd and cdrecord...
[21:47] <iceroot_> benc2: man env
[21:47] <cbeske> dd if=youriso of=sdmountpoint ?
[21:48] <x_or> cbeske:  Is that all I need to do?
[21:48] <x_or> cbeske:  I don't need to do anything to make it "bottable?"
[21:48] <x_or> s/bottable/bootable/
[21:48] <cbeske> x_or: assuming the sd card is mounted yeah, probably
[21:48] <cbeske> x_or: is the iso bootable?
[21:49] <x_or> cbeske: It should be mounted before running the command?
[21:49] <cbeske> x_or: not sure if it absolutly needs to be, but that's what I would do
[21:49] <Kentoro> hello
[21:49] <Kentoro> can someone help me
[21:50] <cbeske> x_or: *thinks* actually it will probably work w/o mounting the sd card
[21:50] <Kentoro> i need a room for help with being new to ubuntu
[21:50] <Zane2> after i logout in ubuntu, its it possable to auto login like it was in 9.04
[21:50] <sampo> hello
[21:50] <Kentoro> i was trying to install flash palyer and it screwed up
[21:50] <erUSUL> cbeske: x_or not the mount point you have to dd to the device itself... but i do not think that would make it bootable
[21:50] <Kentoro> im really frustrated by this whole thing and im thinking of going back to windows, what do you guys think
[21:50] <cbeske> x_or: so something like dd if=/home/your.iso of=/dev/sdcard, yeah erUSUL you're right
[21:50] <sampo> I am trying to install Matlab 2009a in ubuntu 9.10 but get.."/home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/install/main.sh: 582: /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[21:51] <sampo> root@sampo-laptop:/home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab#
[21:51] <sampo> "
[21:51] <Zane2> i have a need for it, im running xbmc with no keyboard, and somtimes it crashes. but not to the point where i cant log out,
[21:51] <sampo> any advice???
[21:51] <Zane2> so it just automatilly logs me back in
[21:51] <mael> how do i get my ubuntu 8.04 color depth for X
[21:51] <Kentoro> looking for an expert, pst
[21:51] <x_or> cbeske:  Thanks, trying it now.
[21:52] <sampo> what to do???
[21:52] <Will123456> Kentoro
[21:52] <Will123456> what's your question?
[21:53] <Kentoro> i was trying to isnstall flash player and it kept saying the download was bad
[21:53] <sampo> any one there?
[21:53] <Kentoro> I couldnt uninstall
[21:53] <alphonse85> :)
[21:53] <erUSUL> mael: xdpyinfo | grep planes | tail -1
[21:53] <Will123456> Sampo: are you running in root?
[21:53] <sampo> yes
[21:53] <broken-iPod> Can somebody please help me?  I'm very frustrated at this point.
[21:53] <Zane2> is there a chan just for karmic?
[21:53] <Kentoro> all of the posts on the net was ubuntu garble
[21:53] <Kentoro> i dont understand the terminal
[21:53] <Kentoro> lol
[21:53] <Kentoro> or how to do anything
[21:53] <erUSUL> Zane2: this one
[21:53] <Will123456> Kentoro: give us a minute
[21:53] <Kentoro> i just want to use youtube
[21:53] <Kentoro> lol
[21:53] <Kentoro> kk
[21:53] <FloodBot1> Kentoro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:53] <cbeske> x_or: use dmesg to find the real device for your sd card... after you insert the card "dmesg | tail" should show you the /dev/sd[a,b,c,...] location
[21:53] <sampo> /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/install/main.sh: 582: /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[21:54] <broken-iPod> Why is it do difficult to install Flash?  I've tried multiple methods and none of them work.
[21:54] <sampo> I did..../install* -t
[21:54] <Will123456> sampo: sorry, i can't help as i don't know anything about matlab.
[21:54] <coachz> broken-iPod,  what are you trying to do ?
[21:54] <sampo> and got.../home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/install/main.sh: 582: /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[21:54] <sampo> ok
[21:54] <Will123456> Kentoro: how are you installing flash player?
[21:54] <Kentoro> adobe website
[21:54] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" allways worked for me
[21:54] <Kentoro> .deb for ubuntu
[21:54] <Will123456> Kentoro: have you tried using the package manager?
[21:55] <Kentoro> i have but i dont understand it much
[21:55] <Kentoro> the software center?
[21:55] <broken-iPod> erUSUL: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "flashplugin-nonfree"
[21:55] <Will123456> Kentoro: yeah, that's one way to do it
[21:55] <Kentoro> alright
[21:55] <cbeske> sampo: what are the permissions on the xsetup file?
[21:55] <Kentoro> can you tell me a plugin to get that will let me play flash
[21:55] <Will123456> Kentoro: if it's not on there, try synaptic
[21:55] <Kentoro> thats another thing they said try
[21:55] <erUSUL> !info flashplugin-nonfree | broken-iPod
[21:55] <Kentoro> I dont know what the f synaptic is
[21:55] <Will123456> Kentoro: you should look for what broken-IPod and erUSUL are talking about, they have the same problem
[21:56] <Will123456> Kentoro: synaptic is a GUI package manager for ubuntu. think of it like a slightly more powerful software centre, if you will
[21:56] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: maybe you do not have multiverse enabled ? Go to System>Admin>Software sources
[21:56] <Kentoro> ok will
[21:56] <Kentoro> where do i get that at
[21:56] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: in the first tab tick the multiverse repo
[21:56] <Will123456> Kentoro: follow erUSUL's advice too- you might need to enable the multiverse
[21:57] <broken-iPod> Why is it such a difficult task?  Why can't I just go to Adobe's website and download it, then the installer actually works?  Or why can't Firefox do it on its own?
[21:57] <wrapster> weird things happening on ubuntu9.04
[21:57] <Kentoro> mine is multiverse set
[21:57] <Billiard> broken-iPod: the package manager is extremely easy much easier than going to adobes website, you can install flash player with one command
[21:57] <Will123456> Billiard is right, a centralised list is much better than having to manually locate all your software
[21:57] <wrapster> im unable to hear any audio from any of the youtube videos..
[21:58] <wrapster> but system >sound > test sound
[21:58] <wrapster> Im able to hear the beep....
[21:58] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: legal issues; copyright; software patents and all that s**t makes this things complicated in a free as in freedom world
[21:58] <wrapster> what is this?
[21:58] <Kentoro>  in the synaptic manager
[21:58] <guntbert> !enter | wrapster
[21:58] <Kentoro> which package do i look fore to get flash player
[21:58] <Will123456> Kentoro: look for flashplugin-nonfree
[21:59] <Billiard> wrapster: install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[21:59] <coachz> is the correct flash player to install for my 9.10  " .deb for Ubuntu 8.04+"
[21:59] <Billiard> wrapster: can you hear other sounds?
[21:59] <Will123456> Jesus who is telling all these people to go to the adobe website
[21:59] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: you pay nothing for the OS you have to jump some hoops; the package to read comercial DVD can not even bee in multiverse it has to be in its own repo outside the USA
[21:59] <Will123456> coachz: look for flashplugin-nonfree in synaptic
[21:59] <coachz> in the software center ?
[21:59] <Billiard> Will123456: its what you have to do in windows, its what people are used to
[21:59] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: which is BTW the country that makes this things so sh**ty
[21:59] <cyphase> does anyone know of a good svg viewer, particularly for larger svg files?
[21:59] <Kentoro> the adobe site screws everything up
[22:00] <Kentoro> even the package installer
[22:00] <Kentoro> gets bugged
[22:00] <Kentoro> but i think I may have it now
[22:00] <wrapster> Billiard: yeah actually I can but its very werid..I use skype a lot just yday i was able to hear everything clearly. but when ever there is a sound made all i can hear are some screeching noise from my headphones.
[22:00] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: understand now ?
[22:00] <Will123456> coachz: if you can find it in the software centre then go for it- if not, go for synaptic. or the command line packager
[22:00] <broken-iPod> Apparently I had to update something.
[22:00] <coachz> oh, ok, thanks
[22:00] <wrapster> Billiard: yeah i've installed
[22:00] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: go ahead
[22:00] <Will123456> Kentoro: let us know if it works for you :)
[22:00] <broken-iPod> Now it works in Ubuntu Software Center
[22:01] <broken-iPod> But it didn't before, which makes no sense.
[22:01] <Will123456> Billiard: the BBC recently did a review of karmic and lambasted it for "not including flash by default"... right...
[22:01] <broken-iPod> Oh well, I got it.  Bye.
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Will123456: centre yep that's the correct spelling :)
[22:01] <wrapster> I've just killed pulseaudio also hoping that it will fix the issue but no.... any idea how i can trouble shoot it.
[22:01] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: after enabling multiverse install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package that package instals flash java mp3 support and a bunch of other video codecs and stuff
[22:01] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:02] <Will123456> sebsebseb: are there any british linux distros? maybe a ubuntu spin with perfect british english. it could be called What Ho
[22:02] <cbeske> will123456: crunchbang
[22:03] <Will123456> cbeske: really? i've been needing an excuse to try it
[22:03] <cbeske> will: i love it, been running it for about a half a year now
[22:03] <lukasz_> !pl
[22:04] <sebsebseb> Will123456: in a way since where the Canonical head quarters are located they should be naming everything in British English, but that's not how it works,  unfortunatly  American English the default for loads of computer stuff
[22:04] <Kentoro> the synaptic worked
[22:04] <Will123456> Kentoro: excellent :)
[22:04] <Kentoro> they need to but in a patch for that
[22:04] <Kentoro> telling people not to use website
[22:04] <Kentoro> specially not noobs
[22:04] <Kentoro> like me
[22:04] <eddym> hey why does my mic volum keep switching to low when i close it any1 knows the fix
[22:05] <Will123456> Kentoro: in ubuntu's defense, they didn't tell you to use the website either :P you just assumed
[22:05] <Kentoro> thanks for the help
[22:05] <elops> Still having the same problem trying to swith to a terminal and back from X.  I enabled a framebuffer through grub to rid the fb0 error not found.  I'm using the "nv" driver and all seems to go well in the log.
[22:05] <Kentoro> im sure ill be back in here
[22:05] <Will123456> cool, definitely
[22:05] <elops> im on ubuntu 9.10
[22:05] <Will123456> come in whenever you want :)
[22:05] <Kentoro> thanks again will and everyone
[22:05] <wrapster> killed pulseaudio again and fiddled around with alsamixer and its working now.. But this seem to be the story every day...
[22:05] <Will123456> Kentoro: enjoy youtube!
[22:05] <coachz> is there anything i need to do to make my fonts looks smoother ?
[22:05] <wrapster> anyway i can fix it completely.. at least do anyone of you have some sort of an idea as to how i can troubleshoot it...
[22:06] <Will123456> coachz: by smoother, do you mean crisper? like how windows's is?
[22:06] <coachz> well, i'm using an app called treepad lite and the fonts look jagged
[22:06] <Will123456> ah
[22:07] <marks> /
[22:07] <branstrom> Can reinstalling grub cause me to not be able to boot the generic kernel?
[22:07] <elops> anyone?
[22:07] <branstrom> I can only boot the realtime kernel now.
[22:07] <branstrom> It's a fresh install.
[22:07] <mizerydearia> When I restart an ubuntu system, the gui looks wrong.  http://tasteofthaiinc.com/js.avi  How can I resolve this?    Has anyone else experienced this issue?  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8300 (rev a2) -- Installed are nvidia-glx-96-dev, nvidia-glx-180-dev, nvidia-glx-173-dev, nvidia-glx-71-dev, nvidia-settings, nvidia-180-kernel-source, nvidia-71-kernel-source, nvidia-96-kernel-source, nvidia-1
[22:07] <mizerydearia> 73-kernel-source, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-common, nvidia-*-modaliases, nvidia-glx-*, xserver-xorg-video-nv, nvidia-glx-*
[22:07] <atanok> oh hey, grub problems
[22:07] <faryshta> Someone knows how it this bug going? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/467431
[22:08] <branstrom> atanok: yup
[22:08] <wrapster> mysteriously pulseaudio is re-enabled.
[22:08] <atanok> faryshta, check the BIOS, see if there's anything disabling 64bit mode
[22:08] <atanok> I'm having a bit of trouble with grub2
[22:09] <branstrom> I also get "waiting for soundsystem" dialog when trying to get into the sound system dialog
[22:09] <wrapster> I dont know how its happening... how important is the pulseaudio pkg.. its causing terrible headaches to me.. Can i remove it ? and yet expect audio to work?
[22:09] <faryshta> atanok, I am using 64 bits mode right now.
[22:09] <kultrva> i just downloaded and installed 'castle combat' without any problems, but now it's not showing up in my games list and i can't find it anywhere. any ideas?
[22:09] <atanok> can't chainload a Windows partition on a different HDD
[22:09] <guntbert> kultrva: how did you install it?
[22:09] <atanok> faryshta, can you boot a 32 bit disc normally?
[22:09] <branstrom> I think I'll start a thread on the forums instead.
[22:09] <faryshta> kultrva, did you update the game?
[22:09] <faryshta> atanok, yes.
[22:10] <kultrva> via packages.ubuntu.com.  got the .deb file
[22:11] <faryshta> kultrva, so you had it installed and updated?
[22:11] <kultrva> installed, yes. not sure about updated. is that done through the terminal?
[22:11] <atanok> faryshta, I'd try disabling one of the cores, if there is such an option in the BIOS
[22:11] <faryshta> atanok, is a kernel bug I just want to know how is that bug going.
[22:12] <faryshta> kultrva, then, when you started noticing your saves gone?
[22:12] <atanok> oki
[22:13] <Will123456> (do you guys know when crunchbang will be updated to the ubuntu 9.10 base?)
[22:13] <kultrva> i haven't managed to play it. it says it's installed in the terminal  but isn't showing up in the software center
[22:13] <atanok> back to my problem, grub2 boots a Windows XP partition just fine in hd0, but a partition on hd1 fails
[22:13] <trism> kultrva: dpkg -L package_name will list all the files installed with the package, grep for what is in /usr/bin
[22:13] <bruno123> hey can u put vmware images on vbox?
[22:13] <Billiard> kultrva: the software center is dumb, use the package manager
[22:14] <faryshta> Will123456, never!
[22:14] <benji_> Hi, I have a 12G RAM computer, is there a 32bits kernel available somewhere?
[22:14] <xandermann> :bruno123 I think it can.
[22:14] <bruno123> kultrva more correctly, the software centre is for dummies
[22:14] <atanok> it boots the Fedora 11 installed on hd1 fine, too
[22:14] <faryshta> kultrva, can you start it on terminal?
[22:14] <user_> Hello
[22:14] <Web> alguem ai tem notebook da intelbras
[22:14] <Billiard> benji_: ubuntu.com ?
[22:15] <inivex> kultrva, try "ls /usr/games"
[22:15] <Flannel> !br | Web
[22:15] <faryshta> atanok, Fedora 11 is the problem. It changed the grub, currently if you have one you can have the other (Ubuntu or Fedora).
[22:15] <atanok> I tried fiddling with the options in grub during startup, to no avail
[22:15] <kultrva> sorry, i'm new. how do you run a program directly from the terminal?
[22:15] <xandermann> :bruno123 You can read the Manual-PDF too.
[22:15] <benji_> Billiard, no bigmem install there
[22:15] <xandermann> bye
[22:15] <faryshta> kultrva, type the program name.
[22:15] <cbeske> will: soon i hope!!
[22:15] <inivex> kultrva: just typed the program name
[22:15] <faryshta> What is the game? kultrva.
[22:15] <i_is_broke> benji_, for something like that you will have to run the 64 bit
[22:15] <Billiard> benji_: dont you want a 64 bit disc with 12GB of ram ?
[22:15] <inivex> (assuming the program is in a directory that is part of your $PATH)
[22:16] <atanok> wait, stupid mistake on my side- I meant OpenSUSE 11
[22:16] <atanok> don't know where I got Fedora from
[22:16] <atanok> stupid brain
[22:16] <c3l> whats the "minimize all/show desktop" command? (like win+d in windows)
[22:16] <kultrva> yes, i can run it from the terminal
[22:16] <coachz> see ho grainy my fonts are  http://img7.imageshack.us/i/screenshotbb.png/
[22:16] <faryshta> atanok, ohh, then I don't know, maybe is the same problem.
[22:16] <kultrva> it's 'castle-combat'
[22:16] <benji_> i_is_broke, Billiard, I have a 32bit proc so I need a bigmem kernel
[22:16] <atanok> I'll try reinstalling grub2
[22:16] <anythingj> I just plugged in a USB device... how do I tell what Filesystem the USB device is using?
[22:17] <coachz> how can i make the font not so grainy
[22:17] <faryshta> kultrva, so you can create a file on the desktop just meant to run the game when double-click it.
[22:17] <atanok> If that fails, I'm back to grub 0.97
[22:17] <cbeske> Will123456: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/5216/crunchbang-910-release/ -- looks like they don't have a date yet
[22:17] <c3l> coachz, install some fonts
[22:17] <coachz> where can i get some
[22:18] <elops> Still having the same problem trying to swith to a terminal and back from X.  I enabled a framebuffer through grub to rid the fb0 error not found.  I'm using the "nv" driver and all seems to go well in the log.
[22:18] <Will123456> faryshta: re: crunchbang/9.10 - why never? :O
[22:18] <coachz> synaptic ?
[22:18] <c3l> coachz, but that should be standard in ubuntu? what OS are u rinning+?
[22:18] <anythingj> How do I tell what filesystem a USB is using?
[22:18] <elops> im on ubuntu 9.10
[22:18] <Will123456> cbeske: thanks :)
[22:18] <coachz> 9.1 fresh install today
[22:18] <faryshta> atanok, I actually think it is the grub. Ubuntu is behind in that subject.
[22:18] <Billiard> benji_: are you talking about PAE  ?  im not familiar with "bigmem"
[22:18] <c3l> coachz, do you have this problem in all programs?
[22:18] <benji_> Billiard, what is PAE?
[22:18] <forro> i need help
[22:18] <coachz> no just this one
[22:18] <atanok> the problem is remapping the hdd
[22:19] <kultrva> i can run the game from the desktop icon and through the terminal. is there no way to get it into the list of games?
[22:19] <forro> newer on linux
[22:19] <c3l> coachz, what program is it?
[22:19] <i_is_broke> benji_, might try debian instead.
[22:19] <coachz> treepad lite
[22:19] <Billiard> benji_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[22:19] <inivex> kultrva, System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
[22:19] <faryshta> Will123456, if they don't have it now that 9.10 has been released probably will never have it. Once released they only make security updates. But that don't mean you can't install it.
[22:19] <benji_> Billiard, I think so
[22:19] <atanok> somehow, grub2 doesn't handle that well, and then Windows fails to load
[22:19] <dethaddr> can any one help me set up twonkymediaserver??
[22:19] <soro> hi all, i've question about 'sed'. when i pipe a command to sed it looses color info.
[22:19] <benji_> i_is_broke, .(
[22:19] <soro> example: ls -l 2>&1 | sed "s'^'TEST: '"
[22:19] <soro> i want to prepend a string to yhe output of ls, but also preserve the colored output of ls. how can i do it?
[22:19] <anythingj> How can I tell if my USB device has a FAT format on it?
[22:19] <inivex> kultrva, you can manually add a button in the games section
[22:19] <coachz> this one:  http://www.treepad.com/download/#tplitelx
[22:19] <atanok> missing or corrupted hal.dll error
[22:20] <atanok> I've ruled out hal.dll being problematic
[22:20] <Flannel> benji_: PAE is a way you can access more than 4GB of memory with a 32bit processor (not at the sametime, and assuming your hardware supports it)
[22:20] <faryshta> Wait Will123456 crunchbang is a distro or a  program?
[22:20] <Will123456> faryshta: crunchbang is a linux distro based on ubuntu
[22:20] <dethaddr> how do i gain root?
[22:20] <benji_> Flannel, Is there any ubuntu that does that?
[22:20] <Flannel> dethaddr: Use sudo to run whatever you need
[22:20] <cbeske> faryshta: http://crunchbanglinux.org/
[22:20] <Flannel> benji_: Yes, there's a PAE kernel
[22:20] <Billiard> benji_: my ubuntu server has a pae kernel right now, so ubuntu has it
[22:20] <kultrva> thanks guys, got it working
[22:20] <down_under> anythingj check "fdisk -l" locate the disk then cfdisk /dev/(disk)
[22:21] <dethaddr> duuuhhhh... i knew that.
[22:21] <benji_> Billiard, Flannel OK!! what the name of the PAE packages?
[22:21] <XQbit> Hey guys, the dv2000 guy back
[22:22] <faryshta> Thanks for the info Will123456  and cbeske.
[22:22] <sameold> hi all
[22:22] <XQbit> attempted installing the wicd instead of the regular wifi control panel
[22:22] <rob0917> If you own a windows operating system disc,does that give you the right to use proprietary software such as windows media,mp3 ,quicktime etc...
[22:22] <KnifeySpooney> I'm having problems installing Aurora GTK engine on Ubuntu 9.10. I installed it from Gnome-look and built it using checkinstall as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778611 . However, when I try to use Elementary Aurora theme (uses Aurora engine), only my window border is changed, but no other parts of the theme are changed (such as controls). What's up with that?
[22:22] <XQbit> stuff stilll ain't working
[22:22] <coachz> c3l,  any ideas on my font issue ?  it's just Treepad Lite
[22:22] <anythingj> down_under: All I see is 3 of the partitions (I didn't know USB had partitions) that are Unkown and 1 that is "Novell Netware 386" which I've never even heard of
[22:22] <Flannel> benji_: linux-generic-pae
[22:22] <faryshta> Will123456, they seem to release crunchbang 2 months after Ubuntu.
[22:22] <rob0917> on ubuntu
[22:23] <Billiard> benji_: linux-image-generic-pae  ?
[22:23] <atanok> faryshta, reinstalled grub2 and ran update-grub2; I'll again reboot now
[22:23] <Will123456> faryshta: yeah... looks like i'll just have to install openbox on fedora and pretend it's crunchbang/ubuntu
[22:23] <sameold> I have jaunty now and I wanna upgrade to karmic.. but I'm worried about any problems.. will I have any problem related to memory ? or performance ?
[22:23] <benji_> Billiard, what about linux-generic-pae ?
[22:23] <cbeske> haha awesome.
[22:23] <Billiard> benji_: that will probably work too
[22:23] <Flannel> Will123456: You should ask about crunchbang in #crunchbang, they'll know more.
[22:23] <cbeske> Will123456: yum install apt-get install what's the diff
[22:23] <Will123456> Billiard: if you're running an awesome i7/AM3 12 gig system you really should go with 64 bit
[22:23] <faryshta> Will123456, just out of curiosity. Why don't you install openbox in Ubuntu?
[22:24] <XQbit> any ideas guys? how do I get the wifi working? DV2000 laptop (HP), fresh install of 9.10, the WiFi doesn't work
[22:24] <Will123456> linux 64 bit isn't like windows 64 bit
[22:24] <benji_> Billiard, g r e a t
[22:24] <benji_> thanks
[22:24] <Will123456> there's no stability issues, or at least, hardly any
[22:24] <bruno123> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/19/guide-install-google-chrome-os/
[22:24] <Billiard> Will123456: its not me its benji_
[22:24] <benji_>  ,.-)
[22:24] <c3l> coachz, did you install treepad through ubuntus package manager?
[22:24] <faryshta> atanok, the problem I think is that the Ubuntu can't handle grub2.
[22:24] <Will123456> Billiard: just realised that, sorry :P
[22:24] <sameold> I have jaunty now and I wanna upgrade to karmic.. but I'm worried about any problems.. will I have any problem related to memory ? or performance ?
[22:24] <Will123456> benji- just install ubuntu 64bit
[22:24] <coachz> no, it just runs and has no installer
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[22:24] <benji_> cbeske, and why?
[22:24] <Billiard> Will123456: he doesnt have a 64bit cpu
[22:25] <kultrva1> another issue, my machine is dual-booting between Ubuntu 9.10 and Windows 7. Sound in ubuntu is fine, but there is no sound in windows. i know it's not the speakers or sound card because ubuntu is doing fine with it. any ideas?
 like wht ?
[22:25] <Will123456> Billiard: seriously? is he running some ancient server?
[22:25] <benji_> actually I have :-
[22:25] <down_under> anythingj  you know how much space you have on the usb? so you should be able to recognize the disk
[22:25] <faryshta> Someone knows how is this bug going? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/467431
[22:25] <Will123456> kultrva1: do you have a dedicated sound card?
[22:25] <cbeske> benji: why?
[22:25] <Will123456> benji- ancient servers are cool :P
[22:25] <kultrva1> i'm using an SB Audigy
[22:26] <Billiard> Will123456: idk he has 12GB of ram, cant be too ancient
[22:26] <alphonse85> :-D
[22:26] <Will123456> Billiard: that's what i'm thinking
[22:26] <Will123456> infact why would they make a 32 bit processor with 12 gigs of RAM?
[22:26] <mauri> which are the differente between karmic and lucid
[22:26] <Will123456> Benji: what processor architecture are you running?
[22:26] <Billiard> mauri: right now probably not much
[22:26] <cyphase> Does anyone know of a good SVG viewer, particularly for larger SVG files?
[22:26] <Will123456> kultrva1: presumably you've got installed the windows drivers for your sound card?
[22:26] <sameold> bruno123: what kind of horroe stories ?
[22:26] <coachz> can anyone dl this, open it and run it and tell my why the fonts are all kerflukey ?  it's my fav note taking app. there's no install, it just runs   http://www.treepad.net/download/tplitelx_complete.tar.gz
[22:26] <Billiard> cyphase: firefox?
[22:27] <benji_> Will123456, I have an i7
[22:27] <Will123456> kultrva1: try plugging your speakers into your motherboards integrated sound (if it has some)
[22:27] <MidoCrash> hey guys
[22:27] <maggio107> Need some help i can't install flash on ubuntu 9.10
[22:27] <Guest42976> Anyone here with a toshiba G450 mobile modem and NOT having problems?
[22:27] <Billiard> benji_: i7 is 64bit
[22:27] <benji_> Will123456, desktop computer 64bits
[22:27] <Will123456> benji- an i7 is a 64 bit processor
[22:27] <down_under> anythingj if i plug my 40gb drive i see something like this, hope this helps you: Disk /dev/sda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
[22:27] <mauri> Billiard: so it is with no sense install it now
[22:27] <MidoCrash> wasssup
[22:27] <MidoCrash> i am hacking now
[22:27] <cyphase> Billiard: "particularly for larger SVG files" :)
[22:27] <Will123456> benji- you should install a 64 bit OS then
[22:27] <kultrva1> Will123456: yes, i have the windows drivers. it worked fine until installed ubuntu
[22:27] <SquarePi> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0AAFAD78
[22:27] <faryshta> Will123456 are you having this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/467431
[22:27] <SquarePi> keyserver is not working
[22:27] <Billiard> mauri: i wouldnt
[22:27] <benji_> Will123456, could you try to explain me why I should take the 64b kernel?
[22:27] <Will123456> benji- running a 32 bit OS on a 12 gig i7 is like driving your ferrari down the road then biking it the rest of the way :p
[22:28] <cbeske> lol @ will
[22:28] <rob0917> does owning a windows disc give you the right to use proprietary software on ubuntu in the u.s.
[22:28] <maggio107> does anybody know how to install flash on 9.10
[22:28] <faryshta> benji_, just in case you have more than 2 gb of ram+graphic card memory.
[22:28] <Will123456> benji- 64 bits can take advantage of more memory, it's also better at counting in general (it can count much higher!) - this isn't just for RAM, it's for normal things too, like encryption
[22:28] <cyphase> rob0917: what proprietary software?
[22:28] <Billiard> rob0917: you need a windows licence key to legally use windows
[22:28] <rob0917> mp3 windows media ,quicktime
[22:29] <Will123456> benji_: 64 bit linux has been benchmarked and is generally as fast as if not faster than 32 bit linux- don't be scared off by stories of 64 bit windows
[22:29] <faryshta> maggio107, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[22:29] <code> hi having dependency probs while trying to install pidgin. http://pastebin.com/f17d9931c
[22:29] <Will123456> linux is much much better at this kind of stuff
[22:29] <Will123456> linux has been 64-bit capable and stable for ages due to it's use in the server market
[22:29] <benji_> Will123456, I dont use encryption
[22:29] <cyphase> rob0917: i doubt it..
[22:29] <benji_> Will123456, I dont even play games on it
[22:29] <code> running jaunty, x86.
[22:29] <Will123456> benji_: you do whenever you download a package :P
[22:29] <Billiard> Will123456: i havent had any problems with windows 64bit either
[22:29] <Will123456> Billiard: nor me, it's pretty stable now
[22:30] <rob0917> cyphase: thanks
[22:30] <faryshta> Will123456, did you check the launchpad I send you?
[22:30] <Will123456> faryshta: i must have missed it, could you resent?
[22:30] <Will123456> benji_: if you use 32 bit linux, you'll either only be able to use approx. 3 gigs of RAM (allowing for GPU address space + BIOS), or you'll have to do some pointless fiddling about to enable more. just go with 64 bit, it's honestly just the better option :P
[22:30] <Billiard> benji_: overall i think linux 64bit is faster, and PAE is like a hack to use more than 4 GB, one program cant use more than 3.watever GB with PAE
[22:30] <SquarePi> how to use a .emerald theme file?
[22:31] <cyphase> rob0917: (lawyer disclaimer here).. i don't think you need to worry.. people aren't being raided for installing codecs on their linux box
[22:31] <Will123456> benji's right
[22:31] <dethaddr> where can i find Unicode (UTF-8) character coding
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[22:31] <duffydack> Anyone having problems with a Toshiba G450 mobile usb device not recognising as mobile and instead as a pendrive (which is also is)
[22:31] <Will123456> er
[22:31] <Will123456> Billiard is right*
[22:31] <Will123456> (why do i keep confusing billiard and benji)
[22:31] <benji_> Will123456, I think some feature are not really stable on 64bits systems like flash plugins
[22:31] <faryshta> Will123456, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/467431
[22:31] <rob0917> cyphase: that sounds good ,thanks again
[22:32] <cyphase> rob0917: your welcome
[22:32] <Will123456> benji_: i had to do a bit of fiddling to get flash 64 bit running on my fedora 64 bit system, but really not much. it was just click click, download, install
[22:32] <Will123456> benji_: putting a 32 bit OS on your 12 gigs of RAM would be literally a crime against awesome rigs :P
[22:32] <zsolt_> hi there,anybody knows how to install all sound servers?I got alsa only
[22:33] <KnifeySpooney> I'm having problems installing Aurora GTK engine on Ubuntu 9.10. I installed it from Gnome-look and built it using checkinstall as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778611 . However, when I try to use Elementary Aurora theme (uses Aurora engine), only my window border is changed, but no other parts of the theme are changed (such as controls). What's up with that?
[22:33] <trism> code: it is failing because it is trying to install 2.6.3 for some reason by the dependencies in the repo are for 2.5.5 because that is the version in the repo, did you try to install karmic's version from a deb?
[22:33] <Will123456> faryshta: looking at your launchpad link right now
[22:33] <rob0917> I'd rather use Ubuntu than Windows 7
[22:34] <Will123456> faryshta: what do you want me to say? i'm not really sure if there's a work around...
[22:34] <cbeske> rob:0917: at least 7 is better than vista
[22:34] <rob0917> true
[22:34] <faryshta> Will123456, if you have the same problem.
[22:34] <mrXX> evolution help, serious - : my evolution download all messages from the server which is not what i want, can i put the emails back to the server???
[22:34] <cbeske> there was an article on /. the other day about how the NSA "secured" windows 7
[22:34] <dethaddr> can any one tell me the command to get Unicode UTF-8?\
[22:35] <code> trism did not attempt karmic install
[22:35] <Will123456> faryshta: unfortunately i don't have any 64 bit AMD systems here right now- i do at my dad's, but that's a mile's walk away and it needs new RAM- which was the reason I couldn't install karmic 32 bit on it (it was a 1.5 gig ram system): have you done a mem test on your system/
[22:35] <Will123456> ?
[22:35] <gpscura> What is the difference between Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Ubuntu Moblin Remix?
[22:35] <trism> code: that is strange, do you have any non-standard repos?
[22:36] <Will123456> it could be that 64 bit is addressing part of your ram that might be faulty, faryshta. i'm not saying that's the problem but it's something to check
[22:36] <dcider> when printing finishes in Karmic a notice box appears for a couple of secs,  is there a conf setting that will allow relocating it/
[22:36] <mrXX> my evolution mail sucked up all the mails from the server, can i put them back???
[22:36] <apeepa> I would really apprecaite if someone could point me in the right direction with setting up a firewall on my ubuntu hardy server. All I want to have open for inbound is 21,22,80.
[22:36] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:36] <dethaddr> I'm trying to hook up a media network with my 360, anyone think they can help?
[22:37] <code> trism i dont think so i can try put it on pastein. I assume you are referring to sources.list
[22:37] <trism> code: yes
[22:37] <Guest59101> were do I find the themes I download and install so I can make sure when I delete them there do delete
[22:37] <thief> I'm using rhythmbox to listen mp3 I have on a WinXP machine in my local network. it all worked fine until yesterday, but now I can't load files from there, I have to copy them to my harddisk and them load them into rhythmbox. there are no erros, it just don't stop 'loading' the mp3. what could be the issue?
[22:37] <Will123456> gpscura: the ubuntu netbook remix uses standard ubuntu using a gnome-based custom tailored UI for small screens and easy window management for web browsing etc. the moblin project is pretty much the same, just a different take on it- a more extreme take, too. it's also a lot less polished
[22:37] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:38] <ardchoille> Guest59101: Depends on how you installed them. They are either in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes
[22:38] <faryshta> Will123456,  you have the same problem?
[22:38] <richart> what's best, nvidia or ati for vcard?
[22:38] <Guest59101> ok thnx
[22:38] <Kudi> i heard about this program that completely fixes all your mp3. tags automatically i think i read about it in a linux magazine....ring any bells?
[22:38] <code> trism ok will boot out of vista and into jaunty. Back shortly
[22:38] <faryshta> Will123456,  you have two 64bits processors?
[22:38] <Guest59101> what is ~
[22:38] <erUSUL> Kudi: define "fixes"
[22:38] <Will123456> faryshta: my 64 bit processor is intel, but i've not tried karmic 64 bit on them.
[22:38] <[-jon-]_> How can I rewrite grub to my drive? I dont want it on my windows disk, and overwrote that one, but apparantly it didnt write a boot record on its own disk....
[22:38] <Will123456> faryshta: so i can't say i have had the problem - not had the chance to try. sorry.
[22:38] <gpscura> Will123456 Thank you
[22:39] <Will123456> gpscura: moblin is more netbook-y than ubuntu netbook remix, but it's not done yet. no harm in trying both though :)
[22:39] <trism> Kudi: there are several programs you can use...easytag is one, I use picard myself though
[22:39] <rob0917> I've heard ubuntu 9.10 called ubuntu's vista,but I've had no problems
[22:39] <bdelin88> hey is there a reason for swap space anymore if you have several GB of RAM?
[22:39] <faryshta> Thanks Will123456 that was all I asked :P
[22:39] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:39] <Will123456> faryshta: sorry! :P
[22:40] <gm|lap> rob0917: pulseaudio is broken in it
[22:40] <apeepa> firewall help, someone pelae.
[22:40] <coachz> do i have to log out for my mouse pointer to honor the appearance / customize / pointer setting ?  i'm trying to make it a big mouse pointer
[22:40] <bdelin88> rob0917: it's mostly for upgrades that are having the issues
[22:40] <cbeske> apeepa: try the ufw command
[22:40] <LetsGo67> How do I turn on my laptop's fan?
[22:40] <rob0917> has had much trouble myself
[22:41] <duffydack> Can anyone help me with a Toshiba G450 mobile device not detecting properly?  Its only detecting as usb drive
[22:41] <Kudi> erUSUL i dont know you know how some tags are just all out of wack? like in exaile/armorock for instance theres about 10 folders with jay z...when there should only be one it doesnt seam like i can edit it through exaile
[22:41] <LetsGo67> !overheat
[22:41] <Will123456> bdelin88: linux uses a "dumb" (read: better) approach to swap/paging, which means it only starts to use a swap file when it absolutely has to - windows likes to page RAM out prematurely. you probably don't need a swap file on linux if you're running 2, 3, 4 gigs of RAM (unless you're using KDE ;)), but since linux only swaps out RAM when it HAS to, you probably won't see any performance improvements by removing your swap
[22:41] <Will123456> file
[22:41] <cbeske> apeepa: see -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823741
[22:41] <rob0917> just some squelching when i adjust volume
[22:41] <Will123456> if i were you i would just leave it there just in case your system has to do something mega-memory-intensive
[22:42] <erUSUL> Kudi: easytag can tag based on filename (parsing it) and can do the oposite move files around based on tags
[22:42] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:42] <Will123456> the only thing you'll gain is freeing up a gig or two of harddrive space
[22:42] <coachz> what's a good password management app
[22:42] <[-jon-]_> how can i rewrite the mbr on my ubuntu install
[22:42] <mrqismrx> If my extended display for my laptop is now having the right resolution (it says 1600x900 in display) but it should actually be 1680x1050. How can I add this display?
[22:43] <coachz> pwmanager ?
[22:43] <coachz> i see a number of them
[22:43] <gpscura> I know Moblin, and i read about Ubuntu Moblin Remix and Moblin, but i thought that Ubuntu changed Ubuntu Moblin Remix name to Ubuntu Netbook Remix, i didn't know that Ubuntu was developing both
[22:43] <rob0917> does anyone have canonical support for ubuntu? is it a good value?
[22:43] <jordy240> can someone please help? suspend mode won't resume?
[22:44] <apeepa> cbeske: I installed it.. now I cant log on to my slice
[22:44] <Will123456> gpscura: Mobin isn't the same as Ubuntu Netbook remix. are you sure ubuntu is developing the moblin netbook remix? i think even fedora can support the moblin interface
[22:45] <gpscura> Will123456: There's a download of it in Ubuntu website: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-moblin-remix/releases/karmic/release/
[22:45] <erUSUL> jordy240: and you can not reboot either ?
[22:45] <jordy240> erUSUL, what do you mean? I can reboot
[22:46] <arleslie> Can someone tell me a good programming language to start with on linux? I'm mainly looking for shell programs, theres one I have in mind but I have no idea what its called.
[22:46] <Will123456> gpscura: that doesn't imply that ubuntu / canonical etc. are the ones actively developing moblin, mind. just the fact that they've put together a version of ubuntu that has moblin preinstalled
[22:46] <jordy240> erUSUL, but I hate not having suspend mode. do you have any ideas on how to get it to work?
[22:46] <erUSUL> jordy240: do you get any error message whenm you attemp to reboot ?
[22:46] <peterSK> Hello, does anyone know if it's possible to switch to monitor mode with bc4312 [14e4:4315] in ubuntu?
[22:46] <jordy240> erUSUL, no
[22:46] <Will123456> arleslie: are you a beginner programmer or just beginner programmer-on-linux?
[22:46] <erUSUL> jordy240: when you atemp to suspend/resume
[22:46] <Will123456> arleslie: if the former, python's not a bad choice
[22:46] <jordy240> erUSUL, there are no error messages or anything
[22:46] <arleslie> Will123456, beginner on linux, a novice on windows
[22:46] <alphonse85> des francais ici?
[22:46] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:46] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:46] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:46] <FloodBot1> cmp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <Will123456> jesus
[22:47] <DJones> !repeat | cmp
[22:47] <Will123456> k
[22:47] <Will123456> *whoops
[22:47] <gpscura> Will123456 So, it's a secondary "project" or it's not even that?
[22:47] <[-jon-]_> how can i rewrite the mbr on my ubuntu install?
[22:48] <arleslie> Will123456, beginner on linux, a novice on windows
[22:48] <cbeske> apeepa: you're on a slice?  ufw probably blocked port 22 ...
[22:48] <jordy240> can someone please help? suspend mode won't resume
[22:48] <arleslie> !ask | jordy240
[22:48] <[-jon-]_> arleslie: if you want to write shell programs, learn shell scripting..
[22:48] <cmp> Djones,  iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:48] <apeepa> cbeske: it probably did, thats not that smart for default firewall settings
[22:48] <rj1> ....when is GDM theme support going to be fixed?
[22:48] <apeepa> cbeske: what can I do?
[22:48] <Will123456> gpscura: from the moblin wiki "Moblin 2's Core distribution is based on recent builds of Fedora, but other distributions to announce future support for the core Moblin stack include Linpus[4] and Ubuntu.[17][18]."
[22:48] <code> trism hi, http://pastebin.com/f7ce04d1e
[22:48] <cbeske> apeepa: no kidding! sorry! ... gimme a second here...
[22:49] <gpscura> Will123456: Ok, thank you :)
[22:49] <peterSK> Hello, does anyone know if it's possible to switch to monitor mode with bc4312 wireless card [14e4:4315] in ubuntu 9.04?
[22:49] <Will123456> arleslie: then i recommend something like python? it's nice and easy and presumably has hooks for working with gnome and KDE and so on.
[22:49] <rj1> anyone know how to change login screens in GDM?
[22:49] <code> trism anything there causing probs?
[22:49] <main> i was wondering how can i install the latest version of mono i have always install everything from the software center
[22:49] <rj1> or get rid of GDM?
[22:49] <islam> halo
[22:49] <BLUE_BALLS> are there any good video/audio capture apps for Ubuntu? i wanna broadcast youtube videos and my laptop has mic/cam built in
[22:49] <Will123456> gpscura: think of the moblin remix as the same as xubuntu or kubuntu. the devs are mainly integrating the UI into ubuntu, but pass any patches or improvements they make upstream
[22:49] <arleslie> [-jon-]_, I have started but I want to know how to make the stuff look like the CentOS install (the blue background with the dialog in the middle), I don't know if its just stright shell or if its another language, I've used it before but I forgot about it.
[22:50] <islam> how are you?>
[22:50] <arleslie> Will123456, I'll look in to that, thanks :)
[22:50] <cmp> hello every body, iam new user in Ubuntu 9.04 and i got used to use Vodafone USB modem - it was working fine ... i turned to another provider and it had some problem but i solved it by some forum online - when i needed to go back to the Vodafone USB Modem , i faced the same problem with the new provider which is ( i cant see the Modem - and when i see it - it gives me " GSM not connected" always .......... can any body help me please
[22:50] <Will123456> arleslie: if you want to delve into the kernel or work with the actual distro, you'll need to use stuff like C++
[22:50] <BLUE_BALLS> are there any good video/audio capture apps for Ubuntu? i wanna broadcast youtube videos and my laptop has mic/cam built in
[22:50] <lotec> what up? urbantu peps
[22:50] <Will123456> arleslie: if you're just writing applications, you should use whatever language comes easiest, as long as it can be easily integrated into the desktop environment it's designed for
[22:51] <cbeske> apeepa: reboot, might clear up iptables and let you back in?  I'm still looking....
[22:51] <apeepa> cbeske: did reboot
[22:51] <apeepa> cbeske: can i pm me?
[22:51] <Will123456> see you guys!
[22:51] <arleslie> Will123456, I'm not wanting to work with the actual distro, just the look of it, I forgot what language makes the background blue with dialogs in a box with using commands.
[22:51] <mizerydearia> As root `tightvncserver :0` => "A VNC server is already running as :0"  --  I am logged into Gnome locally with the system.  I want to remotely connect to the same desktop as well.  Gnome's System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop: Allow other users to view your desktop is disabled.  How come I can't start a tightvnc server?
[22:51] <dcider> what do you call the notification box that appears after printing or downloading completes?
[22:52] <Will123456> arleslie: you mean you want to make themes or work on a theme engine? i've got no idea about that stuff actually
[22:52] <Will123456> anyway good luck- i have to go now :) bye
[22:52] <arleslie> Will123456, bye
[22:52] <trism> code: looks fine to me, that's strange, maybe try to purge pidgin, update and then try to install (sudo apt-get purge pidgin; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pidgin)...not sure why it would be trying to install pidgin 2.6.3 on jaunty
[22:52] <cmp> Will any one answer ?
[22:53] <elops> Still having the same problem trying to swith to a terminal and back from X.  I enabled a framebuffer through grub to rid the fb0 error not found.  I'm using the "nv" driver and all seems to go well in the log.
[22:53] <elops> im on ubuntu 9.10
[22:53] <BLUE_BALLS> are there any good video/audio capture apps for Ubuntu? i wanna broadcast youtube videos and my laptop has mic/cam built in
[22:53] <BLUE_BALLS> like i mean recording whatever is in front of the cam/mic
[22:54] <code> trism thanks, will try it out and see.
[22:54] <mcurran> skype maybe
[22:54] <rob0917> cmp: seems no one has an answer for you right now ,try again later
[22:54] <infidel2> i'm trying to install the latest deb package for anki but it keeps telling me that it depends on python-sip4-dev and few other packages that arent installed. but running 'sudo apt-get -f install' just says it wants to install a couple other packages but remove anki and to run apt-get autoremove and i do that and it just goes in a circle. what can i do?
[22:55] <mcurran> did you try apt-get install -f
[22:55] <infidel2> yes i just said i did :p
[22:55] <mcurran> restartx and try again
[22:55] <arleslie> BLUE_BALLS, try kino, it seems to have a capture option, I don't know if it does webcams though.
[22:56] <infidel2> mcurran what does it have to do with x?
[22:56] <mcurran> nothing, I'm just sick of listening to you, need a short break
[22:56] <arleslie> ouch
[22:56] <duffydack> Can anyone help me with a Toshiba G450 mobile device not detecting properly?  Its only detecting as usb drive
[22:57] <infidel2> that was lame
[22:57] <BLUE_BALLS> arleslie, thanks
[22:57] <BLUE_BALLS> i was just not wanting to have to buy a camcorder thats all. my laptop has a webcam/mic built in
[22:57] <arleslie> duffydack, have you tried removing it from the system and putting it in before ubuntu boots?
[22:57] <mcurran> I don't know, thought maybe a restart would help refresh the package list, maybe apt-get update, then apt-get install -f again...
[22:58] <MikeChelen> hi, even after trying to remove it, one bluetooth device keeps showing up in the list, anyone know what is happening?
[22:59] <mcurran> I had a broken package once and I just used nautilus, searched for all instances of the package and then deleted them all...
[22:59] <BLUE_BALLS> is there a way to use my webcam and voice mic as a camcorder? any software that does that?
[22:59] <arleslie> BLUE_BALLS, PiTiV allows you to capture from your webcame
[23:00] <duffydack> arleslie, I have the ID of the modem, its different to whats detected
[23:00] <mcurran> BLUE_BALLS:  wouldn't that be the same as a webcam video with audio?
[23:00] <duffydack> arleslie, same thing..  network manager does no see it
[23:00] <BLUE_BALLS> arleslie, does it capture audio?
[23:00] <MikeChelen> BLUE_BALLS: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam i like to use camorama, mplayer/mencoder, or vlc
[23:00] <arleslie> BLUE_BALLS, you can also use "Sound Recorder" to get the sound from your mic
[23:00] <phiqtion> how do i rename a folder under terminal?
[23:00] <mcurran> mv
[23:01] <Gadget3000> Hi everyone. I am trying to use debootstrap but its telling me that i need to mount the device without noexec and nodev. How can i do this?
[23:01] <arleslie> duffydack, I have no idea, I had the same issue also and mine mysterously started working about a month ago.
[23:01] <phiqtion> mcurran: mv thats it?
[23:01] <phiqtion> any other extensions?
[23:01] <MikeChelen> anyone know why a bluetooth device still appears in the list, even after using the remove button?
[23:01] <mcurran> I think its "sudo mv <old name> <new name>
[23:01] <rantjuho> Hi all.. I gotta problem with disk utility on Karmic. For some reason it doesn't allow me to partition free space from hd for ubuntu.. Tried googling it but got nothing
[23:01] <Gadget3000> phiqtion: rm -r oldfoldername newfoldername
[23:01] <phiqtion> k thx
[23:02] <phiqtion> idnt rm to remove?
[23:02] <infidel2> my sources.list in karmic only has one line 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main universe restricted multiverse'. what else should i put in it so i can download more software?
[23:02] <phiqtion> isnt
[23:02] <arleslie> rantjuho, try gParted
[23:02] <mcurran> yes
[23:02] <trism> phiqtion: rm is remove, it should be mv old_folder new_folder
[23:02] <rantjuho> arleslie, Thanks will try that :D
[23:02] <JohannesSM64> since i just nticed ubuntu codenames follow the alphabet
[23:03] <phiqtion> thx
[23:03] <duffydack> arleslie, with karmic?
[23:03] <JohannesSM64> will the final ubuntu release be 16.10 Zealot Zebra?
[23:03] <Flare183> JohannesSM64: There is not end to Ubuntu
[23:03] <bluesscream> @rantjuho: do this with a live dvd/cd?
[23:03] <Flare183> no*
[23:03] <arleslie> duffydack, no I'm in Ubuntu 9.04, about to upgrade to 9.10
[23:04] <Gadget3000> phiqtion: so it is. sorry :-$
[23:04] <Scarra3> what linux distro do you suggest
[23:04] <Gadget3000> I am trying to use debootstrap but its telling me that i need to mount the device without noexec and nodev. How can i do this?
[23:04] <duffydack> arleslie, well, problems on karmic with it.. let me know
[23:05] <LetsGo67> Need.  Fan.  On.  Now.  Please.
[23:05] <JohannesSM64> Scarra3, arch linux, but notice how you're in an ubuntu channel
[23:05] <Scarra3> I know
[23:05] <arleslie> Scarra3, I recommend Ubuntu 9.10
[23:05] <MikeChelen> !offtopic
[23:05] <Scarra3> i wanted to get some peoples opinions
[23:05] <LetsGo67> Computer.  Will.  Crash.  Any.  Time.  Soon.  Turn.  On.  Fan.  Please.
[23:05] <arleslie> Scarra3, almost everyone here will most likely say Ubuntu
[23:06] <sean> Im having trouble with dvd playback.  When i open a dvd in my video player i get "Error: could not read from source"
[23:06] <Guest46605> Im having trouble with dvd playback.  When i open a dvd in my video player i get "Error: could not read from source"
[23:06] <erUSUL> Scarra3: ##linux looks like a better place to ask
[23:06] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: Then shut your PC down, come on man, its not really our fault this isnt working
[23:06] <Peter101> --does anyone have http://dmx.sourceforge.net/ running on any linux os?
[23:06] <arleslie> LetsGo67, Saying. Turn. On. Fan. Please. will not make the fan turn no...
[23:06] <erUSUL> !best > Scarra3
[23:06] <jordy240> hi, suspend mode dosn't work upon resuming - the screen remains black
[23:06] <LetsGo67> arleslie: I can't... standby?
[23:06] <Guest46605> Im having trouble with dvd playback.  When i open a dvd in my video player i get "Error: could not read from source"
[23:06] <MikeChelen> Scarra3: it depends on the purpose, often there is an ubuntu derivative for situations like multimedia production, web servers, old pcs, etc.
[23:07] <arleslie> LetsGo67, try holding down the power button
[23:07] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: have you tried to actually force it on via calling to /proc/acpi/?
[23:07] <LetsGo67> Standby doesn't fix it!
[23:07] <mcurran> Yeah, you could add acpi=force to the boot line also
[23:07] <mcurran> is it an old computer
[23:08] <LetsGo67> How syn-ack please?
[23:08] <duffydack> So anyone on ubuntu 9.10 and got Toshiba G450 mobie working ?
[23:08] <Peter101> --does anyone have dmx (distributed multihead x > http://dmx.sourceforge.net/) running on ubuntu?
[23:08] <mizerydearia> If I want to use tightvnc server instead of vino with Gnome Desktop, which file must I reconfigure?  ~/.vnc/xstartup?
[23:08] <LetsGo67> mcurran 2007
[23:08] <LetsGo67> How do I force it please?
[23:08] <LetsGo67> How do I call it syn-ack please?
[23:08] <mcurran> I don't know about the fan - I tried looking into fan control once and failed.  Sorry
[23:09] <Hilikus> how can i do this correctly in bash? this doesn't work
[23:09] <Hilikus> if [ ((fDirs+fFiles+fSinglesRG+fAlbumsRG)) -eq 0 ]; then
[23:09] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: Actually do this: shut the box down and if you have one throw the windows drive in there boot to that and VERIFY that your fan works
[23:09] <cobra_> siemka
[23:09] <syn-ack> Otherwise, it's a waste of time
[23:10] <arleslie> syn-ack, shouldn't the fans start when the computer turns on?
[23:10] <syn-ack> arleslie: Depends
[23:11] <SeaPhor> i just got my laptop back from being repaired under warranty, they replaced the MB, everything operates as before, have 9.04 works fine, i go to fresh install 9.10 from cd, get to live session and will not let me install xchat, i start the installer from the live desktop icon and get to the partitioner, it shows NO partitions- only blank space in the box where /dev/sdax's should be... any help?
[23:11] <roto_> join ayuda
[23:11] <jordy240> hi, suspend mode dosn't work upon resuming - the screen remains black
[23:11] <syn-ack> The kernel does a quite a bit of Control nowadays, arleslie
[23:11] <arleslie> syn-ack, didn't think about that
[23:11] <sartan> do i want to use an lpr driver or cupswrapper driver in ubuntu?  What's the infrastructure built out as, or what would be preferred
[23:12] <cobra_> dobra nerka
[23:13] <syn-ack> arleslie: yeah, ACPI is both a blessing and curse
[23:13] <Kent-> Hi, last night I had a motherboard failure so I put my harddrive in a brand new system
[23:13] <cobra_> jest tu jaki rodak?
[23:13] <erUSUL> !fr
[23:13] <Kent-> Windows wouldn't work for obvious reasons but Ubuntu did.. however, I can't mount the ntfs partition, since obviousy it didn't shut down properly
[23:13] <LetsGo67> It turned off the 1st boot.  The 2nd boot, fan is on.
[23:13] <sartan> ahh never mind
[23:13] <cobra_> ubuntu:D
[23:14] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: Another thing you can do AFTER verifing the fan works is boot linux with ACPI turned off
[23:14] <davebs> Can anyone tell me how to reinstall modules?
[23:14] <LetsGo67> syn-ack why?
[23:14] <duffydack> So anyone on ubuntu 9.10 and got Toshiba G450 mobie working ?
[23:14] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: which you would do by entering the GRUB commandline and appending linux=noacpi
[23:14] <Kent-> So how do I mount a ntfs partition that wasn't shut down properly?
[23:14] <salvoely> ciao
[23:14] <cobra_> nerka
[23:14] <salvoely> !list
[23:15] <arleslie> Kent-, force it, -F
[23:15] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: Because that will keep the kernel from interacting with ACPI and it *SHOULD* control it on it's own then
[23:15] <Kent-> arleslie, ah okay thanks. Any dangers with that?
[23:15] <syn-ack> Kent-: Don't force an unclean mount with NTFS
[23:15] <arleslie> Kent-, not that I know of, I haven't had any issues with it.
[23:15] <LetsGo67> syn-ack: perhaps.  But I'm not familiar with all that.
[23:15] <Kent-> syn-ack, okay why not?
[23:16] <syn-ack> Kent-: try to mount it in windows first so windows can clean the part and sync the journal
[23:16] <syn-ack> otherwise the partition can corrupt
[23:16] <Kent-> syn, I can't. windows won't work anymore. I have to get a new drive tomorrow and reinstall windows
[23:16] <Kent-> But I want access to some of my data tonight
[23:16] <syn-ack> erg
[23:16] <mcurran> HD's never die.
[23:16] <LetsGo67> syn-ack: how do I add the command?
[23:16] <arleslie> syn-ack, he said that it won't mount due to it wasn't shut down properly
[23:17] <syn-ack> Kent-: Do what you must then but don't be surprised if you can't mount it
[23:17] <mcurran> just reformat and rewrite mbr and you'll be all set
[23:17] <arleslie> mcurran, are you kidding?
[23:17] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: standby
[23:17] <progre55> hi people! I used to see .jar and .zip files on my MC (midnight commander), but now it's not opening them.. any suggestions please?
[23:17] <mcurran> arleslie:  No actually I'm not
[23:17] <Kent-> syn-ack, well I don't want to corrupt the drive. what are my options?
[23:17] <progre55> I mean, the file contents )
[23:17] <mcurran> I've never had one die, only people who don't know how to fix them
[23:17] <naknomik> When desktop effects are enabled and I connect to my ubuntu desktop all I see is just a blank screen. Is there no way to share desktop and also have desktop effects enabled?
[23:17] <erUSUL> progre55: maybe you need to install zip packages
[23:17] <arleslie> mcurran, hd's do die, I should know my external harddrive out of no where just stopped working, ran 20 different tests and it said there was nothing there.
[23:18] <LetsGo67> syn-ack: how do I append "linux=noacpi" to GRUB commandline?
[23:18] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: Read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:18] <mcurran> arleslie you just need to run the force mount command
[23:18] <progre55> erUSUL: I have the zip and unzip commands.. any more missing?)
[23:18] <arleslie> mcurran, ubuntu wouldn't even see it
[23:18] <syn-ack> LetsGo67: I had to look the page up, thats why I told you to wait
[23:18] <mcurran> nautilus doesn't see it?
[23:18] <erUSUL> progre55: do not think so ... back to the drwing board ;P
[23:18] <mcurran> gparted
[23:19] <arleslie> mcurran, oh I should also say that it also make a sound like a skate board grinding
[23:19] <progre55> erUSUL: =) thanks anyways )
[23:19] <LetsGo67> syn-ack sorry
[23:20] <mcurran> well if gparted doesn't see it at all, then I guess it would be an exception to my claim, but it's rare
[23:20] <SeaPhor> i just got my laptop back from being repaired under warranty, they replaced the MB, everything operates as before, have 9.04 works fine, i go to fresh install 9.10 from cd, get to live session and will not let me install xchat, i start the installer from the live desktop icon and get to the partitioner, it shows NO partitions- only blank space in the box where /dev/sdax's should be... any help?
[23:20] <arleslie> mcurran, what about the click of death, or bad sectors?
[23:21] <arleslie> SeaPhor, what does xchat have to do with partitions?
[23:21] <mcurran> usually I use a windows 98 disc and use fdisk to fix both mbr and partitions and i'm good to go, even if I messed up the boot flags with gparted
[23:21] <jongbergs> hi, im using karmic, i've encountered lately sudden shutdown on my laptop twice on the same day, how would i determine the cause the problem? what logs should i consult?
[23:21] <Kent-> Hmm, wait, if I used my windows disc and ran chkdsk would that fix the mounting problem without needing to boot into windows?
[23:21] <SeaPhor> arleslie, just a delta of the issue
[23:22] <syn-ack> Kent-: Sure.
[23:22] <arleslie> SeaPhor, why not just run sudo apt-get install xchat ?
[23:22] <mcurran> how are you going to run chkdsk without booting windows
[23:22] <Kent-> syn-ack, and I'll avoid corruption?
[23:22] <VCoolio> I'm trying to be nice and seed the karmic torrent; but with transmission-daemon or -cli it is removed automatically after some time; ideas on that?
[23:22] <SeaPhor> arleslie, always been able to install pkgs, (xchat) in live sessions before
[23:22] <alphonse85> :-[
[23:22] <grkblood13> how do i make this save the * as what its supposed to mean and not literally? $c1 != "66.249.68.*"
[23:22] <syn-ack> mcurran: It's called the recovery console and Kent- you'd be ok
[23:22] <arleslie> SeaPhor, well idk, I've always used the commands
[23:23] <Kent-> ok thanks
[23:23] <mcurran> oh, didn't know what windows disk he had
[23:23] <arleslie> grkblood13, what???
[23:23] <alphonse85> :)
[23:23] <SeaPhor> thats not the issue, just 1 issue  in the string of the main issue, no partitions, arleslie
[23:23] <zash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc/+bug/77442 :(
[23:24] <grkblood13> arleslie, i dont want it to look for the character *, i want it to look for anything beginning with 66.249.68.
[23:24] <trism> grkblood13: try it with single quotes
[23:24] <arleslie> SeaPhor, Don't you have to run the package with sudo to see partitions?
[23:24] <grkblood13> trism, i did
[23:24] <grkblood13> didnt work
[23:24] <SeaPhor> arleslie, i see them in df -ah, and in the gui as partitions
[23:24] <alphonse85> =-O
[23:24] <grkblood13> && ($c1 != '66.249.68.*')
[23:24] <grkblood13> its part of an IF statement
[23:24] <arleslie> grkblood13, is this in shell?
[23:25] <erUSUL> grkblood13: what is that? bash scripting ?
[23:25] <MikeChelen> anyone know why after clicking remove, a bluetooth device still appears in the list?
[23:25] <grkblood13> bash
[23:25] <phongphrai> hi
[23:25] <arleslie> grkblood13, try just '
[23:25] <grkblood13> i did
[23:25] <grkblood13> it didnt work
[23:25] <arleslie> grkblood13, try '66.249.68.%'
[23:25] <SeaPhor> but the 9.10 cd / live session installer- partitioner does not....plz read my entire statement arleslie
[23:25] <spO> where can i copy/paste my dmesg , i am having problems booting
[23:26] <coachz> Can anyone help me find a way to fix my fonts in Treepad Lite.  This app is not a packaged app and you just dl it and run it but the fonts look terrible:  http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5158/screenshotbb.png
[23:26] <zsolt_> how can I set programs to run on startup?
[23:26] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: check if you have a working internet connection under live session.
[23:26] <arleslie> SeaPhor, I already said I don't know
[23:26] <phongphrai> im trying to install a software and they say to run autogen.sh but i cant find it, the software is brlcad, who can help me?
[23:26] <JCollierDavis> any reason that netbook remix won't work with a 64bit system?
[23:26] <jongbergs> !info brlcad
[23:26] <grkblood13> arleslie, that didnt work either
[23:26] <fale> hi
[23:26] <erUSUL> grkblood13: ask in #bash
[23:26] <spO> jcollier, NETbook
[23:26] <inline> .
[23:26] <grkblood13> i guess ill ryun over to the bash room
[23:26] <grkblood13> beat me to it
[23:26] <grkblood13> :)
[23:27] <fale> It was announced plymouth in karmic, but it isn't there. Will it be into Lucid?
[23:27] <duffydack> So anyone on ubuntu 9.10 and got Toshiba G450 mobie working ?
[23:27] <infidel2> apt-get build-dep  is telling me "E: you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list". how do i do that?
[23:27] <coachz> you can dl and run treepad lite here if any guru has a sec to find a way to fix the fonts  http://www.treepad.net/download/tplitelx_complete.tar.gz
[23:27] <duffydack> So anyone on ubuntu 9.10 and got Toshiba G450 mobile working ?
[23:27] <SeaPhor> jongbergs, yes, thats what i did first,,, the xchat thing dont matter tho, what matters is that the partitioner dont see the partitions
[23:27] <infidel2> i mean i know how but where do i get the uris
[23:27] <erUSUL> infidel2: System>Admin
[23:27] <alphonse85> i have an amstrad
[23:27] <erUSUL> infidel2: System>Admin>Software Sources
[23:28] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: try initiating the install process thru System > Administration > Installl ubuntu
[23:28] <alphonse85> how can i install ubuntu on amstrad 6128.
[23:28] <alphonse85> ?
[23:28] <exl_> just do it
[23:28] <jongbergs> duffydack: what problems you're having with your toshiba?
[23:29] <jongbergs> !hcl | alphonse85
[23:29] <SeaPhor> jongbergs, ok.... and that will change things how? i am on the box in question so,, how will a shortcut to the same process change the outcome before i reboot to live cd here
[23:29] <JustinHoMi> hey guys. I'm having trouble setting my monitor resolution. I have dual monitors, and one of the monitors won't go above 640x480 (should be 1024x768)
[23:29] <mclur3> is it possible to upgrade the kernel in 9.04 to 2.6.31 without installing 9.10?
[23:30] <JustinHoMi> using the nvidia drivers on ubuntu 9.10
[23:30] <dibs> how can I fix my kolala if it gives "dependency problems prevent configuration of ubufox"??
[23:30] <Gnarwal> mclur3, yes
[23:30] <duffydack> jongbergs, its detecting as a pendrive, which it is also
[23:30] <dibs> My firefox died after a failed update
[23:30] <erUSUL> mclur3: there are ppa with beta kernels
[23:30] <erUSUL> !ppa | mclur3
[23:30] <bostikforever> Hi
[23:31] <bostikforever> I upgraded to karmic today...
[23:31] <alphonse85> i can't find the plug to plug my mouse on amstrad 6128
[23:31] <mclur3> erUSUL: thanks man!
[23:31] <benji01> what s the name of the lastest stable ubuntu release?
[23:31] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: yes, under the live session, go to System > Administration > Install Ubuntu, to start the installation process, let's see how it works out
[23:31] <erUSUL> !kk | benji01
[23:31] <bostikforever> then the dreaded happened my usb modem has ceased to work
[23:31] <erUSUL> !karmic | benji01
[23:31] <infidel2> it's saying i have 1 broken package and to use the broken filter. how do i do that?
[23:31] <benji01> mirki
[23:32] <dibs> My firefox died after a failed update how can I fix??
[23:32] <progre55> anyone, please? I used to see .jar and .zip file contents on my MC (midnight commander), but now it's not showing them, just empty.. any suggestions please?
[23:32] <erUSUL> infidel2: in synaptic there is a button to see broken packages
[23:33] <SeaPhor> jongbergs, ok, i will try that,, dont think it will do any different, but if so then i'll come back give praise, but if i'm right,,, you better run and hide!!! lol j/k
[23:33] <dibs> http://pastie.org/708355 can anyone give advice on this error??
[23:33] <alphonse85> how can i install ubuntu on my amstrad 6128?
[23:33] <spO> when i boot ubuntu now, all i get is a console login screen (not a graphic login screen) and it just blinks a lot
[23:34] <dksoba> anyone know how to use "bc" (bash calculator) to do negative exponents?
[23:34] <syn-ack> alphonse85: You're not actually serious, right?
[23:34] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: :) actually i've encountered nearly related problems launchig the installer right from the desktop of the live cd..have gone to System > Administration > Install ubuntu solves the problem..just give it a try..
[23:34] <erUSUL> alphonse85: amstrad 6128 is a very old computer if google does not fail me. it is not even a PC it uses a z80 is not compatible with ubuntu
[23:35] <syn-ack> bit counter
[23:35] <alphonse85> :P
[23:35] <Gnarwal> Was amaya taken off the official repo?
[23:35] <dksoba> a^abs(x) works, but a^-abs(x) always returns 0
[23:35] <Unislash> hey guys, i'm having a problem connecting to a wireless network...
[23:35] <alphonse85> lol
[23:35] <alphonse85> ok
[23:35] <Unislash> i've never had a problem, but for some reason i just can't connect to our new network
[23:35] <infidel2> i'm trying to install the latest deb package for anki but it keeps telling me that it depends on python-sip4-dev and few other packages that arent installed. but running 'sudo apt-get -f install' just says it wants to install a couple other packages but remove anki and to run apt-get autoremove and i do that and it just goes in a circle. what can i do?
[23:36] <jongbergs> Unislash: are you using karmic now?
[23:36] <trism> progre55: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mc/+bug/397505 for a workaround, it appears to be a bug in karmic
[23:36] <progre55> trism, oh, thanks man, appreciate
[23:36] <jongbergs> dibs: try sudo apt-get install -f
[23:36] <Unislash> yes and no; i'm running two computers (one with karmic, the other with jaunty) neither works, and both display the same behavior
[23:36] <Unislash> it just fails authentication
[23:37] <duffydack> jongbergs, its detecting as a pendrive, which it is also
[23:37] <jongbergs> dibs: this would fix missing packages / broken during update
[23:37] <duffydack> So anyone on ubuntu 9.10 and got Toshiba G450 mobile working ?
[23:37] <sharok> hello
[23:37] <infidel2> how do you reload sources.list after you manually add a new repo to it?
[23:37] <Flannel> dksoba: That seems to be a rounding/display issue, not an input issue (0.5^(-2) == 4)
[23:37] <erUSUL> infidel2: sudo aptitude update
[23:37] <sharok> can someone give me the ubuntu 9.10 GRUB config file??? i killed mine
[23:38] <Unislash> jongbergs: if i use the default wireless connection application it just keeps asking me for the password (and only gives me the choice of WPA and WPA2 personal)
[23:38] <riegersn> why has this intel graphics issue with jaunty and karmic gone on so long? is there any solution currently? can i use karmic but roll back to a driver from pre jaunty? this is a production laptop and of no use to me.
[23:38] <jongbergs> dibs: if didn't work, then try sudo apt-get update
[23:38] <dksoba> Flannel, interesting
[23:39] <jongbergs> Unislash: then it might be that the network you're connecting is encrypted by WPA or WPA2, isn't it?
[23:39] <infidel2> i'm trying sudo apt-get -f install and all it does is say 'following packages were auto installed and are no longer required .... use apt-get autoremove to remove them. the following packages will be REMOVED: anki' and anki is what i'm tryin to install!
[23:39] <jongbergs> !info anki
[23:39] <Unislash> jongbergs: if i use wicd, it appears that i get past the authentication, but can't get an IP... which is interesting
[23:39] <dksoba> Flannel, ic... I just forgot to add scale=n! lol
[23:40] <randomusr> how does one clear cache in FireFox 3.5.5
[23:40] <dksoba> Flannel, thanks so much
[23:40] <infidel2> jongbergs i know anki is in the repos but it's an old version. i need the new .deb package bcause the old one doesnt support online syncing
[23:40] <dibs> http://pastebin.com/m7291d3b1 ok, here's my problem, any help??
[23:40] <Unislash> jongbergs: yes, it is a wpa personal network with a passphrase
[23:40] <jongbergs> Unislash: you can't ip however you can connect to your network?
[23:40] <nevets04> where did my nav bar go?: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8720/43965569.png
[23:40] <apeepa> where do I set the distro link in ubuntu?
[23:41] <Unislash> jongbergs: that what it seems, according to the status output of wicd
[23:41] <trism> randomusr: Tools/Clear Recent History
[23:41] <Unislash> jongbergs: but using the default wireless connection application that comes with ubuntu, it just keeps asking me for my password (then tries for a minute or so, then asks me again)
[23:41] <randomusr> trism, and that will get cookies and all?
[23:41] <mcurran> put nothing as the password and save
[23:41] <bostikforever> Hello I migrated to Ubuntu karmic and my Usb modem stopped working
[23:42] <trism> randomusr: don't include site preferences because that will delete your bookmarks too
[23:42] <trism> randomusr: you can select what you want to delete
[23:42] <mcurran> Oh, Unislash:  The WEP or password is wrong then
[23:42] <jongbergs> Unislash: right now using wicd, you can now have a working internect connection?
[23:42] <randomusr> trism, is there a way to skip form data?
[23:42] <manofsky> its possible to use firefox (command line ) to download a file ?
[23:42] <trism> randomusr: yes, form and search history
[23:42] <mcurran> Also try to select open system, or try the other one
[23:42] <Unislash> mcurran: well it certainly isn't the password, and it gives me no choice other than that
[23:42] <dibs> is freecontrib.org a bad repository??
[23:43] <erUSUL> manofsky: use wget
[23:43] <Unislash> jongbergs: no, i'm using a wired connection
[23:43] <manofsky> erUSUL: its not possible with wget
[23:43] <randomusr> trism: how/where do I find that?
[23:43] <erUSUL> manofsky: becouse ...?
[23:43] <Unislash> jongbergs: well, i guess technically yes, but not wireless ;)
[23:43] <trism> randomusr: it is all on the Tools/Clear Recent History if you click the details arrow
[23:44] <mcurran> Unislash:  I thought you meant it asks you for the keyring password, that's why I said put in nothing.  It sounds like either the password you're trying is wrong or your selecting the wrong encryption type
[23:44] <rww> dibs: I've never heard of it, so likely yes. In general, unofficial repositories aren't supported here. All of the information I can find on it appears to be in French, which doesn't really help with evaluating it :P
[23:44] <randomusr> trism: I have details text without the arrow?
[23:44] <jongbergs> Unislash: you said earlier that the network you're connecting to is protected, definitely the gnome-network manager that comes with ubuntu asks for the passphrase to be able to connect
[23:44] <Unislash> mcurran: ah, nope, not the keyring; i could be selecting the wrong encryption type, but both wicd *and* the default connection manager gives me no other choice but WPA and WPA2 personal
[23:44] <trism> randomusr: should be a little button to the left of the Details
[23:45] <Unislash> jongbergs: corrent
[23:45] <manofsky> erUSUL: because try : http://freeonlinegames.com/games/box10-atv-2/box10-atv-2.swf
[23:45] <mcurran> nm-applet should give you WEP and others
[23:45] <manofsky> erUSUL: :)
[23:45] <Unislash> jongbergs: i give it to the network manager, it goes and tries it for a minute, then goes and asks me again after it (presumably) fails
[23:46] <randomusr> trism: nope not there
[23:46] <renz> Hi; I'm having problems with karmic -- my sound cuts out every now and again, the only apparent way to fix it is to mute and then unmute. How can I debug this? (totally clean install)
[23:46] <bostikforever> Hello I migrated to Ubuntu karmic and my Usb modem stopped working
[23:46] <Unislash> mcurran: i'll try that out here... (i wonder if it'll let me keep my wired connection without interruption)
[23:46] <riegersn> why has this intel graphics issue with jaunty and karmic gone on so long? is there any solution currently? can i use karmic but roll back to a driver from pre jaunty? this is a production laptop and of no use to me.
[23:46] <renz> Hi; I'm having problems with karmic -- my sound cuts out every now and again, the only apparent way to fix it is to mute and then unmute. How can I debug this? (totally clean install)
[23:46] <alphonse85> were are the toilets please?
[23:46] <erUSUL> manofsky: you can store and pass cookies to wget if that's the problem
[23:46] <parkerlreed> Hey
[23:47] <parkerlreed> Im using MegaIRC in WINE
[23:47] <manofsky> erUSUL: how ?
[23:47] <erUSUL> alphonse85: down the aisle; right hand
[23:47] <tazz> in 9.10 how do i get the perl module Mysql.pm ?
[23:47] <alphonse85> :/
[23:47] <Unislash> mcurran: nm-applet is a network manager application, correct? it's not showing up in synaptic
[23:47] <Unislash> jongbergs: any ideas?
[23:47] <parkerlreed> Whats up
[23:47] <dibs> http://pastebin.com/m6ea689c still not working after updating sources
[23:47] <Shreesh-Taskar> Helo - new user trying to install Ubuntu 9.10, and I'm having problems
[23:48] <mcurran> You should already have nm-applet just type gksudo nm-applet
[23:48] <erUSUL> manofsky: see man wget (search for --load-cookies option )
[23:48] <Shreesh-Taskar> the Live boot CD is working
[23:48] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: Thats not going to tell us much
[23:48] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: What problems are you having?
[23:49] <Shreesh-Taskar> and I install Ubuntu
[23:49] <Shreesh-Taskar> but then it does not boot
[23:49] <Shreesh-Taskar> I get a "error: no such device"
[23:49] <Shreesh-Taskar> I looked at the forums
[23:49] <jongbergs> Unislash: try this, on the terminal , rm -rf .gnome* .gconf .gconfd
[23:49] <Shreesh-Taskar> and I went through a setup procedure described there
[23:49] <coachz> if i download a program as a .jar file can i just run it with java ?
[23:49] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: sounds like grub isnt installing
[23:50] <jongbergs> Unislash: then log out and log back in..
[23:50] <coachz> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jreepad/files/jreepad/1.5/Jreepad-1.5.jar/download
[23:50] <mcurran> Anyone know how to change your text color in this xchat?
[23:50] <Guest27545> I need help mounting a fat32 partiton on an external, it says that there is 68 GB of unrecognized space, 2 other partitions mount ok, I have tried mount -o force, but no luck
[23:50] <Shreesh-Taskar> When I boot  some type of UI comes up , is that grub?
[23:50] <coachz> mcurran,  settings, prefs, colors ?
[23:50] <Shreesh-Taskar> it has several choices
[23:50] <Guest27545> Shreesh-Taskar most likely
[23:50] <xand_> hello all, my shift-space keyboard shortcut for scrolling back in apps such as evince and firefox is not woking. Can anyone please help me ? (karmic, compiz disabled, us-layout keyboard)
[23:50] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: that would be it
[23:50] <Shreesh-Taskar> so I get four choices
[23:50] <Guest27545> what are they?
[23:51] <Guest27545> Can i get help mounting w/ force a fat32 partition
[23:51] <Shreesh-Taskar> two for Ubuntu and two for some type of "memtest"
[23:51] <jongbergs> Unislash: then use the gnome network manager to connect to wireless network
[23:51] <Guest27545> yup, that's gub
[23:51] <jeez1234> power cut when installing rpm package, now its broken! how to fix it?
[23:51] <Guest27545> grub
[23:51] <mrXX> what is the code to update alsa? my internal mic is not working
[23:51] <Shreesh-Taskar> okay so looks like grub in installed
[23:51] <HeadCrusherGuy> does anyone already work with reverse proxy server in Apache2?!
[23:51] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: And what happens when you try to boot the first ubuntu entry?
[23:51] <Unislash> jongbergs: ok, i'll try that out
[23:51] <Shreesh-Taskar> so the forum poster said to boot using the LiveCD
[23:51] <Guest27545> you get ubuntu
[23:51] <dr_spork> Hi, I was wondering if someone might help me install karmic, I've been having a lot of difficulty
[23:51] <Guest27545> or should
[23:51] <manofsky> erUSUL: same problem :(
[23:52] <MikeChelen> !ask | dr_spork
[23:52] <Shreesh-Taskar> oh, the first entry leads to the error: no such device problem
[23:52] <Guest27545> w do i mount -o force a fat32 partiton?
[23:52] <bostikforever> Hello I migrated to Ubuntu karmic and my Usb modem stopped working
[23:52] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: What does the second one do?
[23:52] <Shreesh-Taskar> same thing
[23:52] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: and the memtest entries?
[23:53] <Guest27545> w do i mount -o force a fat32 partiton?
[23:53] <nevets04> How can I fix this? ---> http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1189/256114
[23:53] <Shreesh-Taskar> the memtest entries run some kind of test with a blue screen
[23:53] <alphonse85> we have to reduce the world population of 5 billion of people
[23:53] <n-iCe> is there any way to change the keys from the tty's screens?
[23:53] <Shreesh-Taskar> actually I have only tried one of the memtest entries
[23:53] <SeaPhor> jongbergs: having to use pidgin replacement,,,, sudo apt-get install xchat shows no errors but does not execute,,, starting the installer now
[23:53] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: Ok, so follow the directions in that forum entry to fix your GRUB config
[23:54] <dr_spork> I'm trying to install Karmic from USB using an image created with UNetbootin. It boots, logs in, and hangs directly after displaying gnome-panel. I'm on a Dell Optiplex 320. I can switch to a terminal (Ctl+Alt+F1) during Xsplash, but every time I switch back to X (Ctl+Alt+F7) it hangs, and I have to power cycle. Any ideas on how to get it to stop freezing like this?
[23:54] <Shreesh-Taskar> yes, I did
[23:54] <jeez1234> power cut when installing rpm package, now its broken! how to fix it?
[23:54] <gdiz> hello all, I was wondering if anyone has played with the deskbar plugin...if you have, I am trying to figure out how to search for files on my computer using it.  What do you use in the preferences?
[23:54] <Guest27545> w do i mount -o force a fat32 partiton?
[23:54] <Shreesh-Taskar> I will post the forum link, just a sec
[23:54] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: And it's still not working?
[23:54] <Guest27545> how do i mount -o force a fat32 partiton?
[23:54] <Flannel> jeez1234: rpm?  Are you on Ubuntu?
[23:54] <IdleOne> !patience | Guest27545
[23:54] <mcurran> dr_spork - I would try killall compiz-fusion or something
[23:54] <dr_spork> Ok trying
[23:54] <jeez1234> Flannel: yeah! trying to install java. the link gave me a bin with an rpm in it
[23:54] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: no need to post the link, I know which one you're using
[23:55] <SeaPhor> Flannel: plz look at my earlier post,,, having issues
[23:55] <Flannel> jeez1234: Why not just install java from the repos?
[23:55] <syn-ack> Shreesh-Taskar: have you tried to do a reinstall all together?
[23:55] <Guest27545> tried that, this partion has all my pics (~1yr. worth)
[23:55] <Flannel> SeaPhor: Are you sure that CD is good?  Have you run the check? (especially if you can do it from two different computers)
[23:55] <jeez1234> i already had it install, but it wasn't proper! thought i'd try the latest version from the site
[23:55] <IdleOne> java > jeez1234
[23:55] <nevets04> How can I fix this? ---> http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1189/256114
[23:56] <LetsGo67> ttyl
[23:56] <IdleOne> !java > jeez1234
[23:56] <njbartlett> Hi I'm having huge problems with Japanese input since upgrading to Karmic. iBus doesn't work at all - I have Japanese Anthy selected in the dropdown but still get English characters. SCIM causes all apps to hang as soon as I type any input in any language
[23:56] <IdleOne> jeez1234: using an rpm is even less proper
[23:56] <SeaPhor> Flannel: yes, i have checked it on 2 pcs,
[23:56] <jongbergs> Guest27545: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdaX /mnt/windows -o force
[23:56] <jeez1234> IdleOne: thanks, but the problem now is to fix broken packages! :(
[23:57] <Flannel> SeaPhor: Have you tried installing with the alternate CD?
[23:57] <nevets04> How can I fix this? ---> http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1189/256114
[23:57] <SeaPhor> no, never had to before on this laptop
[23:58] <syn-ack> Guest13587: DO NOT irc as root.
[23:58] <SeaPhor> no, never had to before on this laptop Flannel
[23:58] <lstarnes> nevets04: image not found
[23:58] <rance94> can somebody help me with virtual box in ubuntu ??
[23:58] <syn-ack> Guest13587: very bad for your health
[23:58] <calwig> Help with Flash Plugin 1.Using Ub8.04 2.Plugin freezes sometimes when loading a page containing a flash video, freezes for 10 to 20 seconds, unfreezes and plays (sometimes) 3. What to do thanks!
[23:58] <Guest13587> how do you repair a partition on an external
[23:58] <nevets04> lstarnes, oops, http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1189/25611401.png
[23:58] <Flannel> SeaPhor: I have no idea why a change in mobos would cause that.  But I'd try the alternate CD, see if it can install.  Do your 9.04 CDs work?
[23:58] <rance94> can somebody help me with virtual box????
[23:58] <syn-ack> Guest13587: First by logging off and logging back into IRC from a regular user
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> Okay, could not find forum post
[23:59] <dr_spork> mcurran: thanks, it worked! after I restarted metacity through a terminal.
[23:59] <Guest13587> syn-ack I have no choice, I NEED to get a FAT32 partition mounted, but it doesn't work on any other user, I got 2 other partitions in root, but not any other user
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> here is the series of commands i typed in:
[23:59] <lstarnes> nevets04: I can't exactly tell what is wrong (or how to fix it)
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> sudo chroot /mnt
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> mount -t proc proc /proc
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys... Read More
[23:59] <Shreesh-Taskar> mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts
[23:59] <FloodBot1> Shreesh-Taskar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <xand_> hello all, my shift-space keyboard shortcut for scrolling back in apps such as evince and firefox is not woking. Can anyone please help me ? (karmic, compiz disabled, us-layout keyboard)
[23:59] <SeaPhor> Flannel: no idea, got it back and all my stuff stil worked
[23:59] <nevets04> lstarnes, the navigation sidebar is gone! =o