[00:03] <mwhudson> btw, the bzrlib changes to enforce test isolation break 50 or so lauchpad tests
[00:03] <mwhudson> keeping up the tradition that it's test infrastructure changes that usually inhibit launchpad's attempts to upgrade bzr
[00:03] <lifeless> mwhudson: sorry :)
[00:04] <lifeless> mwhudson: OTOH test isolation is pretty important
[00:04] <mwhudson> yeah
[00:04] <lifeless> mwhudson: btw, its saturday
[00:04] <mwhudson> in fact it's doing a good job of highlighting bits of launchpad that we'd need to fix to allow running the test suite in parallel on one machine
[00:04] <mwhudson> lifeless: swap day
[00:05] <ub3rst4r> ahh i c
[00:05] <ub3rst4r> so i should use pull to update the code when ive been working on it?
[00:06] <mwhudson> without a better description of what
[00:06] <mwhudson> argh
[00:06] <mwhudson> ub3rst4r: i think " That's like asking "why do I have to drive downtown?"  If you have to go downtown, then you have to because you have to; if you don't, you don't" applies to that question too
[00:07] <fullermd> The long answer is "it depends on what you're trying to do".  The short one is "If you _can_, yes, probably"
[00:08] <ub3rst4r> thanks
[00:10]  * mwhudson has a hating multiple inheritance moment
[00:10] <fullermd> That's no way to honor thy father and thy mother.
[00:11] <lifeless> mwhudson: how is it doing that ? [highlighting]
[00:12] <mwhudson> lifeless: because many (not all) of the isolation violations are where the tests are accessing hard coded paths
[00:21] <mwhudson> of course lots of the others are tests that create temporary directories by means other than the test infrastructure
[00:39] <lifeless> mwhudson: :)
[00:48] <MTecknology> I wish I could revision control puzzles - My mom was almost done with one and I knocked it on the floor
[01:13] <GastonBorys> hi people
[01:13] <GastonBorys> how should I do to work group with bazaar?
[01:14] <bob2> have you read the workflow section of the documentation?
[01:16] <GastonBorys> yes, but i'm not understand everything
[01:18] <bob2> which bits?
[01:21] <GastonBorys> when i change same file and do commit, later sould be make a push
[01:22] <GastonBorys> okey, so perfect here... but later?
[01:22] <GastonBorys> how can i do a merge from other computer
[01:22] <GastonBorys> bzr merge
[01:22] <GastonBorys> bzr commit
[01:23] <GastonBorys> this is all?
[01:43] <mwhudson> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/464174 is stabbing me in the face :(
[05:59] <MTecknology> I'm happy I no longer use clarke
[07:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> is there something equivilent to 'bzr revision' (eg, i just want the currentn commit number)
[07:53] <lifeless> bzr revno
[07:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> fab, thanks a lot :)
[11:21] <nyu> hi
[11:21] <nyu> how do I join two branches with no common ancestor?  (and no common files)
[11:23] <LarstiQ> nyu: merge -r 0..-1
[11:23] <nyu> LarstiQ: what's -1?
[11:23] <nyu> last rev?
[11:23] <LarstiQ> nyu: yes, and 0 is the null revision
[11:24] <LarstiQ> nyu: - indexes from the end, so `bzr log -r -3..-1` would show you the log of the last 3 mainline revisisons
[11:25] <nyu> great, thanks
[12:21] <maxb> The BzrMigration page notes three possibilities for svn to bzr conversion: svn2bzr - two forks thereof, and bzr-svn. Is there guidance on how to choose which to use?
[12:23] <bob2> do you want on-going bidirectional support?
[12:24] <maxb> It's not a hard requirement
[12:25] <maxb> I can arrange for a stop-the-world migration if the end result is better
[12:27] <nyu> maxb: I recommend fast-export-from-svn
[12:27] <nyu> bidirection support with bzr-svn may result in data corruption
[12:33] <maxb> nyu: thankyou that looks promising.
[12:48] <LarstiQ> nyu: oh?
[12:57] <nyu> LarstiQ: I hit this twice
[13:29] <maxb> nyu: More details please? :-)
[13:30] <nyu> maxb: I filed a bug in LP
[14:55] <chx_> hi. i was wondering whether it would be possible / feasible / desirable to integrate trac-bzr-loggerhead together.
[14:57] <chx_>  a post commit hook that posts to trac and an apache rewirte rule so that the commit linking to the bzr source viewer ties into loggerhead instead.
[23:41] <OldAl> Anyone out there on the "ether"?
[23:42] <OldAl> Speifically, is Patrick Regan there?
[23:54] <jpds> OldAl: That would be rubbs.
[23:54] <rubbs> jpds: that's right. Sorry for being late. OldAl found me in a private chate
[23:55] <jpds> rubbs: Oh right, sorry.
[23:55] <rubbs> jpds: no problem. You didn't know. and I didn't show "publicly" that I found him.
[23:57] <OldAl> So there are people in the bzr chat room!