[01:30] <LimCore> I had crashed krusader in around 10 different ways over the years... I was wondering, is Ubuntu perhaps not following correct release sheduel of Krusader - like - releasing not stable versions from upstream? or what is going on here
[01:30] <LimCore> (krusader is a super cool, but not so stable, twin panel GUI file manager)
[01:34] <LimCore> or is just the application apparently not tested too much, so only way to fix it would be to patch it?
[10:49] <Tatzelbrumm> I have a question related to swapping touchpad buttons in ubuntu 9.10 ... gnome-control-center doesn't work.
[10:50] <Tatzelbrumm> _After_ starting up GNOME, the command xinput set-button-map "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad" 3 2 1 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
[10:50] <Tatzelbrumm> repeat
[10:50] <Tatzelbrumm> xinput set-button-map "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad" 3 2 1 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
[10:50] <Tatzelbrumm> does the trick, but how can I execute this automatically during the startup sequence?
[10:51] <Tatzelbrumm> Related question: How do I name a .fdi file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy , so that it is found at the right time in the startup sequence?
[10:51] <Tatzelbrumm> ... anyone listening, anyhow?
[11:03] <Tatzelbrumm> I have a question related to swapping touchpad buttons in ubuntu 9.10 ... gnome-control-center doesn't work. _After_ starting up GNOME, the command xinput set-button-map "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad" 3 2 1 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 does the trick, but how can I execute this automatically during the startup sequence?
[15:02] <bcurtiswx_> bdmurray: are you present?
[18:30] <SoftwareExplorer> I've just reported a bug with gcalctool that is in ubuntu 10.04. Should I click the Also affects distribution and set it to ubuntu, or is that for the current (karmic) version of ubuntu?
[18:31] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: bug number?
[18:32] <yofel> do you mean bug 486359?
[18:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 486359 in gcalctool "gcalctool fails to resize down when a mode that requires less space is selected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486359
[18:33] <SoftwareExplorer> yep, I was listening to the radio and got distracted, sorry
[18:34] <yofel> ok, just confirmed it here
[18:34] <yofel> the bug report looks fine
[18:34] <yofel> I'll set it to confirmed
[18:36] <SoftwareExplorer> Ok thanks. So is the "Also affects distribution" for some special use?
[18:46] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: bug reported to the gnome developers
[18:47] <SoftwareExplorer> Wow, that was quick, thanks. I wasn't sure if you could see what I was saying (this is my first time using empathy)
[18:47] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: the 'affects distribution' is usually used if the bug also affacts another application or another OS (like Debian)
[18:48] <SoftwareExplorer> but ubuntu is kind of an exception, then? or is the exception what ever distro is reported by apport?
[18:50] <yofel> no, apport always reports bugs in Ubuntu packages
[18:50] <yofel> the bug package on to indicates this on launchpad with: gcalctool(Ubuntu)
[18:51] <yofel> but you can add a distribution like debian if the bug is something they have to fix
[18:52] <yofel> btw. can someone set bug 486359 to Triaged? Thanks.
[18:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 486359 in gcalctool "gcalctool fails to resize down when a mode that requires less space is selected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486359
[18:54] <SoftwareExplorer> yofel:Thanks, I think all my questions are answered, and that was the fastest bug confirmation I have ever had. :)
[18:54] <yofel> you're welcome
[18:58] <yofel> and priority low I would say
[19:07] <mrand> yofel: done
[19:09] <qense> http://www.vuw.ac.nz/staff/stephen_marshall/SE/Failures/SE_Ariane.html Our importance made clear visually.
[19:11] <qense> Watch the video if it's not clear yet.
[19:47] <FFEMTcJ> I have a question... all of these bugs that get reported x package failed to update or whatever.. most of them i am sure are not truely bugs.. how is a good way to sort out what is a bug, and what isnt?
[19:54] <yofel> are really most of them invalid? You'll at least have to inspect the dpkgtermlog for the exact error.
[20:34] <dtchen> #3  0xb76c2ebf in mem_error ( format=0xb76eb644 "failed to allocate %u bytes (alignment: %u): %s\n") at /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.22.2/glib/gslice.c:1197
[20:34] <dtchen> that looks pretty ominous (bug 354507)
[20:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 354507 in alsa-lib "Pidgin crashes multiple times a day" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354507
[22:01] <FFEMTcJ> Question... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gobby/+bug/3801  should that be marked as wontfix or something as it has been fixed and released as a different package name?
[22:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 3801 in gobby "Need undo" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[22:05] <FFEMTcJ> im also not sure what should be done with Bug #380244 - it sounds like the ops complaint is acting the way it is designed to, however the design seems to change in a later version
[22:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380244 in gobby "Prompts to save when closing a gobby document" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380244
[22:32] <yofel> can someone mark bug 483788 as Triaged/High please? Thanks. (High since due to the wrong error messag a novice kubuntu user has no chance to install packages without first getting help from an advanced user that can identify the correct issue)
[22:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 483788 in kpackagekit "KPackageKit fails to recover from a dpkg interruption" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/483788
[23:06] <yofel> can someone set bug 440610 to Triaged/Low please? Thanks.
[23:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 440610 in kpackagekit "Package list not ordered after "Find by name"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440610
[23:08] <SoftwareExplorer> I found a bug in totem and reported it, but now I noticed Rhythmbox also has some of the same problems. Should I sit the package to something other than totem, or see if I can add rhythmbox? the problems see related
[23:09] <SoftwareExplorer> *seem
[23:09] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: if you need help regarding a bug please always state the bug number as 'bug XXXX' please!
[23:09] <SoftwareExplorer> ok its bug 486413
[23:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 486413 in totem "An "internal data stream error" occurs when visualization is changed to or from monoscope while playing .spx file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486413
[23:10] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: the bot takes care of the rest ;)
[23:10] <SoftwareExplorer> That is pretty cool
[23:12] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: it even supports several other bugtrackers, like gnome/kde/mozilla/freedesktop.org/... (like kde 193001)
[23:12] <ubot4> KDE bug 193001 in general "Package and repository lists should be sorted alphabetically" [Wishlist,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193001
[23:13] <yofel> now back to your question...
[23:14] <SoftwareExplorer> yofel: Are you typing, or do you need me to restate/clarify what I'm asking?
[23:14] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: looking
[23:15] <yofel> but I guess I don't know the answer. In case they both use gstreamer as a backend the bug might be there. But I'm a KDE guy and don't use totem or rhythmbox.
[23:16] <yofel> anyone else?
[23:17] <SoftwareExplorer> Do you think gstreamer would deal with sound visualizations? Because that's what is the problem in both
[23:17] <yofel> tbh, no idea
[23:19] <SoftwareExplorer> yofel: That's ok, maybe someone else will know
[23:30] <micahg> SoftwareExplorer: what's going on?
[23:33] <SoftwareExplorer> micahg: Are you looking at the bug? It's bug 486413
[23:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 486413 in totem "An "internal data stream error" occurs when visualization is changed to or from monoscope while playing .spx file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486413
[23:33]  * micahg got in here right at the end of the discussion
[23:33]  * SoftwareExplorer says that's fine
[23:34] <yofel> SoftwareExplorer: he didn't hear a word of what we  talked about ;)
[23:34] <micahg> so, what's the question?
 I found a bug in totem and reported it, but now I noticed Rhythmbox also has some of the same problems. Should I sit the package to something other than totem, or see if I can add rhythmbox? the problems seem related
[23:36] <SoftwareExplorer> The problems seem related because it both with switching to a specific visualization with .spx files
[23:38] <micahg> well, I guess the question is do they share the same virtualization engine?
[23:39] <SoftwareExplorer> micahg: they both fail switching to or from the monoscope visualization if that's what you mean
[23:39] <micahg> no, that's the symptom, the question is doe they share the same code for both?
[23:39] <micahg> and I don't have an answer for that unfortunately
[23:40] <SoftwareExplorer> Well, could I set it  "Affects" to multiple packages somehow?
[23:41] <micahg> yes, but you might want an answer to my question first
[23:41] <micahg> if it's a shared component failing, you'll want to move it to that package
[23:44] <SoftwareExplorer> So how would I find out what that shared component is ?
[23:45] <micahg> they are both based on gstreamer
[23:45] <micahg> but I don't know if that's the visualization code
[23:46] <jmarsden> SoftwareExplorer: Maybe compare the dependencies of the two packages using apt-cache showpkg and see whether anything it depends on looks like a visualization library?
[23:47] <SoftwareExplorer> jmarsden: Ok, I'll try that
[23:47] <jmarsden> Like micahg, I don't know the answer either... :)
[23:49] <micahg> you could try asking in #ubuntu-desktop also
[23:51] <SoftwareExplorer> micahg: Ok, I just did. We'll see what happens