[10:32] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: around?
[10:34] <mac_v> the bug regarding gnome-screensaver not being inhibited during video playback... seems to happen only in vlc from me... but when i play the videos using totem the screensaver doesnt activate... how is totem alone able to do it?
[11:44] <chrisccoulson> hi mac_v
[11:44] <chrisccoulson> totem uses the (correct) gnome-session inhibit API
[11:44] <chrisccoulson> VLC uses an old method which doesnt work any more
[13:34] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: hmm , ok... then why is it a gpm bug? why cant vlc use the same API as totem?
[14:00] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - which bug are you referring to?
[14:01] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: Bug #428884
[14:01] <chrisccoulson> who says it's a gpm bug?
[14:02] <mac_v> oh , so its a screensaver bug?
[14:02]  * mac_v got confused :?
[14:02] <chrisccoulson> its a bug in gnome-screensaver that the --poke command doesnt work, but VLC should be using the inhibit API really
[14:02] <chrisccoulson> sorry i take a while to reply - baby to look after now!
[14:03] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: congrats :)
[14:03] <chrisccoulson> heh, thanks :)
[14:04] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: then should i reopen the vlc task?
[14:04] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - not for now. it's probably something which should be discussed upstream
[14:05] <chrisccoulson> the bug has turned in to describing the issue about the --poke command not working, which affects several applications, rather than specifically being about VLC
[14:05] <chrisccoulson> if anything, there should be a separate bug report for VLC using the new inhibit API
[14:05] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: ah , ok... i'll wont disturb you now.../me tiptoes out ;)
[14:05] <chrisccoulson> thanks :)
[14:05]  * chrisccoulson heads off back to baby
[20:11] <ircuser> Is it safe to use my Western Digital Passport Essential to use in Linux(Karmic)? I have been using it in Vista till now. I have heard people say that Ubuntu will damage or corrupt the file system.
[20:13] <rickspencer3> ircuser, who said that? is there a link or something I can check out?
[20:13] <rickspencer3> I think this is just a normal USB hardrive, right?
[20:14] <ircuser> rickspencer3: no nick...sorry...but as a generel perception (i won't say majority) but around me..some friends and seniors...and i was not sure
[20:14] <ircuser> rickspencer3: yeah.. use 2.0 .. 500gb... portable...ntfs...
[20:15] <rickspencer3> ircuser, hmm
[20:15] <rickspencer3> I don't know why you would experience a problem reading/writing to a hard drive
[20:17] <ircuser> rickspencer3: even i don't know...i have started using ubuntu and i use it primarily as my os..but i also use vista as i can't migrate completely...so i was worried...may be file system corruption etc...
[20:17] <rickspencer3> this is just an external drive that you connect with USB, right?
[20:17] <ircuser> rickspencer3: and every file that i write to ntfs partition from ext4 (ubuntu) is marked as shared
[20:17] <ircuser> rickspencer3: yes
[20:18] <rickspencer3> ircuser, it sounds like it's time for you to back up your data in any case (if you're worried about losing it for any reason)
[20:19] <rickspencer3> but there's no reason other OS's shouldn't be able to read and write files with it
[20:19] <ircuser> rickspencer3: right. but it's a new ext hard disk and this is the hard disk i bought for backup task...so it's now like protecting the protector :)
[20:20] <rickspencer3> well, like I say, there shouldn't be a problm
[20:20] <rickspencer3> you might want to ask in #ubuntu, as this channel is for ubuntu developers, and they are all traveling home from UDS atm
[20:20] <ircuser> rickspencer3: it reads and writes ... just needed to be sure that there's no potential damage..thanksf or your help....
[20:20] <ircuser> rickspencer3: oh...
[20:20] <rickspencer3> ircuser, np
[20:21] <ircuser> rickspencer3: thanks a lot...
[20:21] <rickspencer3> sure
[20:21] <rickspencer3> have fun
[20:58] <mannyv> im looking at a control file and debian depends on debhelper (>= 7) while the ubuntu version depends on debhelper (>= 7.0.17ubuntu2) but the version in lucid will be 7.4.3ubuntu2 so can I change it back to  (>= 7) ?
[20:58] <Keybuk> no
[20:58] <Keybuk> clearly not
[20:59] <mannyv> ok but I am wondering why if the lucid version will be > than 7.0.17ubuntu2
[20:59] <Keybuk> mannyv: it doesn't change the fact that the package needs >= 7.0.17ubuntu2 to build
[21:00] <Keybuk> it's quite common for people to backport packages from the development release
[21:00] <mannyv> ok fair enough
[21:00] <Keybuk> even to hardy
[21:00] <Keybuk> and they'll still need the updated debhelper
[21:10] <mannyv> Keybuk, that obviously makes sense, thanks
[23:45] <Amaranth> mannyv: Packages should always reflect their actual dependencies anyway. Obviously versions older than 7.0.17ubuntu2 didn't have a feature the package needs
[23:51] <SoftwareExplorer> Is there a common library or something that is in charge of drawing sound visualizations in both totem and rhythmbox
[23:52] <SoftwareExplorer> ?