[05:32] <stlsaint> starcraftman: ping
[05:41] <stlsaint> starcraftman: nvrm i panicked...all is well
[13:11] <Traveler> hi
[13:12] <Guest70120> Guest70120
[13:12] <Guest70120> hi
[20:08] <mdke_> nixternal: you've deleted scripts/ and libs/ in the kubuntu-docs branch?
[20:09] <mdke_> nixternal: that makes the branch structure different to the other projects, isn't that something that is worth discussing? Obviously I can see the reasoning for starting fresh on some docs, but structural changes should probably be universal across our branches
[20:10] <j1mc> mdke_: the doc structure is not similar in xubuntu, but that was not of my doing
[20:12] <mdke_> j1mc: it looks like someone played around with where the directories are instead of fixing the paths, but the libs/ and scripts/ directories still exist
[20:13] <j1mc> mdke_: do you mean in xubuntu docs, or in kubuntu docs?
[20:14] <mdke_> in xubuntu-docs
[20:14] <mdke_> but the various branches are diverging a bit more than I'd like :(
[20:15] <j1mc> mdke_: i'm actually going to be rebasing off of ubuntu docs for this release
[20:15] <j1mc> using docbook.
[20:15] <nixternal> mdke_: I can s/customization/libs/ if it is that important
[20:15] <mdke_> cool. I'm happy to help with any issues you encounter with the toolchain if you hit any
[20:15] <nixternal> scripts is still there
[20:16] <mdke_> nixternal: hmm.
[20:16] <mdke_> nixternal: oh, I see, you removed things and then readded them. Yes, I think that consistent naming is important
[20:16] <nixternal> right
[20:16] <nixternal> ok, that is no prob...easy enough...heading out, but I will fix that when I get back
[20:16] <mdke_> thanks
[20:16] <nixternal> np
[20:17] <mdke_> I've upgraded the branch on launchpad just now
[20:17] <nixternal> we deleted all the old docs...starting fresh :)
[20:17] <nixternal> the old ones were so out of date, that updating would take more time than rewriting
[20:17] <mdke_> hopefully that won't cause any issues
[20:17] <nixternal> no, I hope to have a very good base done before the end of the year so it can start getting translated
[20:18] <nixternal> and remove all of the templates out of LP since they are a mess
[20:18] <j1mc> i think the translation team is going to open things up for translation around alpha 3
[20:19] <nixternal> ok, heading out...bbiab
[20:21] <j1mc> and i think the translation coordinators are going to "block" (?) the xubuntu and kubuntu docs from translation for karmic for the time being.  david p. and adi r. could explain a bit better.
[20:22] <j1mc> my connection dropped, so i likely missed anything either of you may have said over the past minute or two
[20:23] <shaunm> hey, look, it's j1mc and nixternal at the same time
[20:24] <nixternal> mdke_: changes reverted to match :)
[20:24] <nixternal> ya, but I am leaving for real now, before the SO kicks my arse :)
[20:24] <shaunm> hah
[20:25] <j1mc> shaunm: howdy
[20:25] <shaunm> hey
[20:25] <shaunm> how's the first weekend in march looking for you?
[20:25] <j1mc> shaunm: milo helped me w/ some basic mallard docs at UDS
[20:26] <shaunm> good.  milo's good people
[20:27] <j1mc> he helped me with the linking syntax. i was trying to link from a parent page to a child page, but doing it the other way around is what makes it work.
[20:28] <mdke_> j1mc: I suspect if they block the translations it's because the translators' work wasn't included in the release for karmic. Having said that, it's not too late to get them into -updates
[20:28] <mdke_> hey shaunm
[20:29] <shaunm> hi mdke_
[20:29] <j1mc> mdke_: yes, that sounds about right.
[20:30] <j1mc> mdke_: they have figured out a better way of handling the xubuntu translations.  david planella (sp?) is going to write up the process.
[20:32] <mdke_> ok, I'll wait to read that, as anything that will improve xubuntu-docs translations should also be applicable to ubuntu-docs
[20:32] <mdke_> and the others
[20:34] <j1mc> i think it was mostly a different way of handling xubuntu docs because ours is in universe.
[20:34] <j1mc> ... so what they proposed was mainly to make that a bit easier
[20:36] <mdke_> well, although xubuntu-docs is in universe, it's still present in Rosetta (perhaps as an exception to the usual rule that universe packages aren't translatable through rosetta)
[20:39] <mdke_> let's see what they come up with
[20:44] <shaunm> j1mc: I was talking to kevin harriss about putting something together in chicago
[20:45] <j1mc> shaunm: do you mean a doc-event?
[20:47] <shaunm> j1mc: yeah
[20:48] <j1mc> that would certainly be convenient for me
[20:48] <shaunm> I figured chicago would be easier for everybody
[20:48] <shaunm> well, everybody but me :)
[20:48] <j1mc> :)
[20:51] <j1mc> shaunm: let me know if you'd like any help w/ preparing anything
[22:59] <nixternal> shaunm: I will talk to Kevin some more and get him to host a doc event at his place...it is a perfect spot for working
[23:00] <nixternal> he owes me a beer anyways so I will try and catch up with him right after thanksgiving
[23:20] <dhillon-v10> starcraftman, hi :)