[00:44] <vadi3> Hi. Is Firefox on Ubuntu KK 32bit affected by the Flash click bug, and if it is, has the workaround been applied for it?
[01:04] <fta> dtchen, did you say that sdl has been fixed upstream?
[03:25] <dtchen> fta: yes. It has.
[07:10] <markey> heya
[07:11] <markey> are Chromium Daylies borked again?
[07:11] <markey> no updates since a few days
[16:08] <fta> markey, just 2 days, but that's expected with dailies, don't worry, it will be back soon
[18:09] <dtchen> fta: I'm working on libsdl now; hopefully I'll have a merge for you by end of weekend
[18:10] <fta> dtchen, excellent!
[20:03] <dtchen> hum.
[20:04] <dtchen> there's a pretty serious alsa-plugins regression, too, but I'm having no luck chasing it
[20:04]  * dtchen test-builds libsdl1.2_1.2.13-5ubuntu1
[20:05] <dtchen> fta: do you know of a good, small sdl test case for this anomaly?
[20:06] <dtchen> try to keep in mind that I'm on a 56kbps dialup connection, so pulling hundreds of megs for game data is really a no-go
[20:06] <fta> small no, openarena is huge
[20:06] <fta> let me check if it have a smaller sdl app
[20:12] <dtchen> oh geez, now I have both openal and fmod to worry about, too?!
[20:16] <dtchen> fta: ok, it built, but again I have no test case
[20:17] <fta> dtchen, try neverball
[20:18] <dtchen> ok, uploaded to ubuntu-audio-dev PPA
[20:19] <dtchen> it's targeted for karmic, though the merge is for lucid
[20:19] <dtchen> I'm waiting for cjwatson to appear online (probably next week) so I can get his blessing to get the merge sponsored
[20:20] <dtchen> err, neverball is 40 MB
[20:20] <dtchen> that is *painful* over dialup
[20:21] <dtchen> I'm just going to have to ask you to test with both the alsa and pulseaudio outputs
[20:23] <fta> Size: 146520
[20:23] <fta> so it's probably its deps
[20:24] <fta> but i will test for sure, i couldn't be worse
[20:24] <fta> it
[20:25] <dtchen> you'll probably need all the relevant packages from that PPA
[20:26] <dtchen> i.e., PA, alsa-lib, libsdl1.2
[20:26] <dtchen> you may find it faster to just dget the source package from the PPA and build it yourself
[20:27] <fta> i'm still running karmic
[20:31] <dtchen> yes, that's why I tested and uploaded for karmic
[21:54] <fta> The following packages will be upgraded:
[21:54] <fta>   libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[22:06] <fta> dtchen, no change at all
[22:06] <fta> dtchen, load of 4+, no sound at all
[22:10] <fta> neverball lost sound completely, it was crackling before the upgrade
[22:10] <fta> (i've upgraded both p-a and sdl btw)
[22:11] <fta> neverballs shows "ALSA lib pcm.c:7234:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occured" in the console
[22:16] <dtchen> fta: ok, I have one more culprit. This symptom started with 9.04, correct?
[22:17] <dtchen> fta: oh, did you update libasound2*, too?
[22:17] <fta> dtchen, hm, yes. iirc, we discussed that at the last uds
[22:18] <fta> ii  libasound2      1.0.20-3ubuntu6.1~~ubuntuaudiodev1       shared library for ALSA applications
[22:18] <fta> ii  libasound2-plugins      1.0.20-1ubuntu8  ALSA library additional plugins
[22:18] <dtchen> ah, excellent
[22:18]  * dtchen reverts the PA_STREAM_EARLY_REQUESTS addition
[22:21] <dtchen> bah, not that.
[22:22] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/324855/
[22:23] <dtchen> right
[22:23] <dtchen> well, there're a ton of rewind requests
[22:24] <dtchen> and that makes no sense whatsoever
[22:24] <dtchen> also, that behavior is with alsa, correct?
[22:24] <fta> hmm, sdl or opengl is messing with vdpau, too bad
[22:24] <dtchen> meaning the alsa backend for libsdl
[22:24] <dtchen> or with both alsa and pulse backends for libsdl?
[22:25] <fta> if you mean that's with libsdl1.2debian-alsa, yes
[22:25] <dtchen> right, and with libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio ?
[22:26] <fta> reinstalling..
[22:28] <fta> perfect for neverball, trying openarena
[22:29] <fta> dtchen, ^^, nope, still no sound, and i have to kill it to return to the desktop
[22:29] <dtchen> ugh.
[23:36] <fta> micahg, hi, got the emails this time? (lots of them?)
[23:36] <micahg> yes :)
[23:40] <micahg> I see 3.7 and 3.6 failed
[23:43] <fta> good, so the forward worked