[00:21] <bluelaguna> Does Xubuntu use Pulse Audio?  If not, what does it use instead?
[02:07] <mrpresident_> d
[02:31] <anom01y> Hi, what is a good tool to record my desktop so I can show off Linux to all those winblows users ?
[02:38] <qwertydiii> anyone using ubuntu 9.10?
[02:57] <Monocian> May I ask a question? :s
[03:05] <Monocian> :(
[04:53] <anom01y> anyone here use an app called recordmydesktop ? if so, I am having trouble getting the sound to work. I tried putting 'ALSA' in the device section, but I get an error.
[04:53] <anom01y> unless there is another app to record the desktop w/ sound recording capability also..
[06:00] <michael_> hello
[06:00] <michael_> anybody home? :P
[06:07] <russianwizard> hello
[06:11] <russianwizard> hello
[06:50] <artistxe> looking for example partition maps for triple booting . any ideas ?
[06:51] <artistxe> want to boot xubuntu , fedora , and opensuse
[07:13] <artistxe> there is nobody here ?
[09:05] <Freewillie> Hi
[09:06] <Freewillie> Ive got a problem, I upgraded from xubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 but now xubuntu can't connect to my wireless network, it stays connecting but never connects
[09:08] <Freewillie>  before the upgrade it worked
[09:09] <Freewillie> can anyone help me please?
[09:17] <Freewillie> Does anybody know how i can solve mine problem?
[09:28] <Freewillie> I hope someone would reply
[09:35]  * Freewillie is disappointed in the not response
[09:52] <ACWL> Hey, got a question about running on a G5 powerpc
[09:53] <ACWL> is this the correct place?
[09:53] <ACWL> anyone at their computers?
[09:54] <ACWL> goddammit
[09:56] <ACWL> ........empty for the moment...thats irratating oh well, gonna have to try the old fasioned way.....
[11:32]  * Freewillie is steal waiting for response on hes question
[11:32] <Freewillie> still*
[12:25] <PedroM> anyone is running Xubuntu on a Macbook ?
[12:28] <anv> I had resolution question, is this right place for that kind of questions?
[12:29] <anv> I want to use 640x480 but after every reboot it turns again to 800x600 ?
[12:31] <anv> I'd like to use one older machine as DVD player in livingroom and my old TV takes in rgb but only 640x480
[12:34] <anv> with old xorg it was easy to tell which resolution did the task but I don't understand this new system
[12:49] <Guest95437> please..how do i access a windows share from xubuntu?
[12:53] <TheSheep> !smb
[12:53] <TheSheep> !smbfs
[12:53] <TheSheep> !fusesmb
[12:54] <Guest95437> ok thanks
[12:54] <TheSheep> also, meybe try this
[12:54] <TheSheep> !info gigolo
[14:35] <italomaia_> Hi! How can i edit xubuntu menu?
[14:35] <italomaia_> in text-mode
[14:35] <italomaia_> i want to add an item to games section
[14:49] <BlueEagl1> Ok, I've run into a weird problem. I used to have a raid array spanning two disks. This array is now long gone but the disks are the same. However when I boot I do get entries in /dev/mapper. This have upon till now not been a problem. But today when I installed and formatted swap partitions on that drive I have lost entries for /dev/sdbX and /dev/sdcX. How would I go about getting them back?
[15:55] <italomaia_> someone there?
[15:57] <likemindead> Sure.
[16:05] <likemindead> Baaahhhhh.
[16:55] <subspider> !alsa
[17:57] <egle> hello, what is the command for "action buttons", i'd like to make a shortcut for myself
[18:08] <TheSheep> action buttons?
[18:09] <likemindead> !hotkey
[18:25] <egle> TheSheep, yes, when you press "the door" icon, and then computer asks whether I want to hibernate, suspend etc. Dont know how to call it. I would make the shortcut for myself, I know HOW to that, but I must know the "command" of the thing I want to call. :)
[18:45] <TheSheep> egle: see xfce4-session --help
[18:46] <TheSheep> xfce4-session-logout
[18:47] <egle> TheSheep, YEs, this works, wonderful, thanks
[20:15] <renata> hello, I get this error when starting gnome-system-monitor: ** (gnome-system-monitor:23616): WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled. Should I be woried?
[20:15] <j1mc> renata: i would say no
[20:15] <j1mc> SELinux is a very powerful security tool, but it's rather complicated
[20:16] <j1mc> if it's not set up right, it can create a whole bunch of warnings for stuff that a normal user would like to use
[20:16] <j1mc> or do
[20:17] <renata> jlmc, thanks, I understand i shoulnt scroll though packages and forums trying to enable it and just live normally?
[20:56] <anti_theocon> it works pretty good...nobody even has any questions!
[21:12] <tigerdog> have I missed something or does xubuntu 9.10 handle audio CDs differently than earlier xubuntu?
[21:12] <tigerdog> when I insert an audio CD, nothing seems to happen
[21:15] <tigerdog> identify
[21:18] <Adia> âñåì ïðèâåò
[21:19] <Adia> íóæåí ñîâåò ïî óñòàíîâêå ñåòåâîãî äðàéâåðà íà êñóáóíòó 8.04
[21:20] <knome> !ru | Adia
[21:21] <Adia> #ubuntu-ru
[21:21] <knome> Adia, /join #ubuntu-ru
[21:22] <Adia> ñïñá
[21:25] <stratprof> Is anybody around?
[21:27] <stratprof> A newbie here ... but of the generation that never used pidgin or its ilk. Are these notes visible to others?
[21:28] <dm_synck> Yes, there is someone here.
[21:29] <stratprof> cool. my son and his friends will be proud. is this a spot where I can toss a question about xubuntu into the mix?
[21:29] <dm_synck> You have found the right place for xubuntu questions
[21:30] <stratprof> Two for two. Let's go for three ... are you "a resource" whose knowledge I can tap?
[21:31] <knome> stratprof, there's people who can help, if that's possible
[21:31] <knome> stratprof, i mean, if helping is possible in the first place :)
[21:31] <dm_synck> I am not a guru, but I will try to answer any question you have.
[21:31] <C00LARR01> stratprof: is better to just ask the question you have and if anyone can answer it they will help you out
[21:31] <stratprof> Wonderful. Here's the tale, as briefly as possible.
[21:31] <knome> i'm way byond guru ;]
[21:32] <knome> (but still can't type)
[21:32] <stratprof> Acer Aspire One. Used Netbook Remix 9.04 without a hitch. Upgraded to 9.10 but found the system bogged down. The automatic upgrade loaded the full Ubuntu into the Acer.
[21:33] <stratprof> I tried an experiment and loaded Xubuntu last night. All's working perfectly. The question: how different is UNR from Xubuntu?
[21:33] <j1mc> UNR is pretty different from xubuntu
[21:33] <j1mc> it is optimized for netbooks in terms of the overall display
[21:34] <j1mc> and some other things
[21:34] <stratprof> It was possible, using Synaptic, to more from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. Is it possible to move from Xubuntu to UNR?
[21:36] <j1mc> stratprof: you can install the UNR packages w/o any problems.  i'm not sure how the system knows to boot into one or the other, though.  overall, i would say that it would be best to start fresh w/one or the other
[21:36] <j1mc> that's my general preference when mixing distros, though.
[21:37] <stratprof> My experience supports your view. I booted from a live version of Xubuntu before loading it and found the interface to be different from the one I'm looking at.
[21:38] <stratprof> I suspect the "mixing" caused some variance.
[21:39] <stratprof> Let me change the question, then. Is Xubuntu likely to perform as well on my little netbook as UNR?
[21:39] <j1mc> it is likely to be pretty much as quick (give or take...), but UNR makes better use of the smaller screen size.
[21:40] <stratprof> Got it. An evening of reloading lies ahead. Many thanks for the input.
[21:40] <j1mc> no problem.  ... be sure to back up your data!  :)
[21:40] <j1mc> and to check your backups!
[21:40] <j1mc> :-)
[21:41] <stratprof> Way ahead of you.;-)
[21:41] <stratprof> Good bye. And thanks again.
[21:45] <owen1> how to cancel the graphical login manager in karmic? i want text-based login. i open rcconf but gdm is not checked. any ideas?
[21:46] <j1mc> owen1: you can remove the gdm package.  i am pretty sure that you'd need to start X manually after doing so, though.
[21:47] <j1mc> why do you want to remove the graphical login?
[21:47] <j1mc> is it too heavy for you?
[21:47] <j1mc> if so, you could install slim or xdm instead
[21:48] <owen1> j1mc: it's not heavy. i like to do all kind of stuff like running wbar, conkey etc. and i normally do it in xinitrc
[21:48] <owen1> j1mc: how do i do it with gdm?
[21:48] <BlueEagle> owen1: It's in the release notes: More daemons like the gdm Gnome Display Manager have been switched from classic init scripts to upstart shortening their run time due to parallel runs.
[21:49] <BlueEagle> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/HumanReleaseNotes#Upstart
[21:49] <BlueEagle> owen1: Read more on http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:50] <owen1> BlueEagle: will do. thanks
[21:50] <BlueEagle> owen1: It's a part of "tfm" ;)
[21:51] <j1mc> BlueEagle: thanks
[21:56] <owen1> if i don't use gdm it means i don't use 'Upstart'?
[21:56] <owen1> and don't enjoy the fast boot process?
[21:56] <BlueEagle> No, you would still be using upstart for all the other daemons. What you would want to do is move gdm.conf out of /etc/init
[21:57] <BlueEagle> alternately you can set the "start on" rule to a condition that will never comply
[21:57] <owen1> BlueEagle: is it possible to configure gdm just as i would do with xinitrc ?
[21:58] <BlueEagle> owen1: I have not researched best practice for configuring upstart. I assume it is documented somewhere tho.
[21:59] <owen1> BlueEagle: ok. i'll try to find docs about running apps with gdm instead of xinitrc. if i can't do it i'll get rid of gdm
[22:00] <BlueEagle> owen1: Wait... are you trying to get rid of gdm so that you can use xinitrc to start jobs when you log in?
[22:00] <owen1> BlueEagle: yes
[22:00] <owen1> i run stuff like wbar and conkey
[22:03] <BlueEagle> owen1: Ahh.. I see.. .Xsessions is not working as intended according to a few bugs.
[22:05] <BlueEagle> owen1: xfce4-session-settings should do the trick, shouldn't it?
[22:05] <owen1> BlueEagle: let me try
[22:08] <owen1> BlueEagle: it looks the right place to do it. but i think i prefer to do it text-based. so what was your solution to login into text instead of gdm? can i rename /etc/init/gdm.conf ?
[22:09] <BlueEagle> owen1: I would move gdm.conf out of /etc/init to somewhere safe.
[22:09] <owen1> BlueEagle: i'll try it. 1 sec.
[22:09] <BlueEagle> owen1: Atleast until I've read the docs on how to disable the job properly
[22:11] <owen1> BlueEagle: i still get the gdm.
[22:11] <BlueEagle> upgrade or clean install?
[22:11] <owen1> or whatever it is
[22:15] <BlueEagle> I am quite sure that Xubuntu uses GDM.
[22:15] <BlueEagle> Did you reboot after moving gdm.conf out of /etc/init?
[22:15] <BlueEagle> (if so, that was quick) ;)
[22:16] <owen1> BlueEagle: no. just loged out. and btw, i have 2 machines..
[22:16] <owen1> let me reboot
[22:16] <BlueEagle> owen1: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/faq.html#reload
[22:17] <BlueEagle> owen1: Actually telinit to change runlevel to 1 and then setting it back to 3 should also be a useful test. Rebooting however will definitly be the easiest way to check.
[22:18] <owen1> BlueEagle: i rebooted. and you were right. i got the login in a terminal.
[22:18]  * BlueEagle grabs the brownie points
[22:19] <owen1> the problem is i run startx and i see an xfce window tells me 'Default' and i see 2 bottons - logout and new session.
[22:19] <owen1> BlueEagle: but i can't click on them since i don't see the mouse.
[22:19] <BlueEagle> I have got no experience running XFCE4 with startx so I am unable to answer that. Did you try tab and space?
[22:20] <owen1> ok. the mouse is here..
[22:22] <BlueEagle> How big is your xinitrc-script?
[22:23] <owen1> BlueEagle: i don't know why but i can't see it anymore.
[22:23] <owen1> i am creating new file
[22:23] <owen1> works. i just added the word awesome
[22:23] <BlueEagle> Also, you could have passed the script to a shell in the session-settings. You wouldn't have to take every command and stuff in there.
[22:24] <owen1> BlueEagle: the pop up i saw was the session. i check 'keep session' or something like this.
[22:24] <owen1> BlueEagle: i'll cancel it
[22:25] <BlueEagle> even better, you can make a separate script called .CoolXApps, start it with !#/bin/bash and just fire up the cool apps. Add that to the start menu after making it executable and you're home free.
[22:25] <BlueEagle> Would most likely be a much better alternative than running a text based login, but that is just my opinion.
[22:25] <owen1> BlueEagle: in xinitrc i will call it, right?
[22:26] <owen1> BlueEagle: oh, u mean use the 'startup app' section in xfce?
[22:26] <BlueEagle> Well I would toss the entire .xinitrc out the window and run gdm and add the script to xfce4-session-settings
[22:26] <owen1> got it
[22:26] <owen1> i can try it as well.
[22:26] <BlueEagle> That way you would have your graphical login and your user applications in a text file. Best of both worlds.
[22:26] <owen1> not sure why gdm is helpfull though
[22:27] <owen1> what do u mean i'll have my login in a textfile?
[22:27] <BlueEagle> I never said you'd have your login in a text file.
[22:28] <BlueEagle> I said you would have a graphical login... AND ... your user applications in a text file like .xinitrc
[22:28] <owen1> yeah
[22:45] <owen1> any idea how to configure the touchpad in karmic. i try to change it's behavior with syndaemon but i can't find a way to enable SHMConfig since my Xorg.conf has no entry for touchpad.
[22:45] <BlueEagle> owen1: It is no crime to create your own sections in xorg.conf.
[22:45] <BlueEagle> owen1: Do you have a Section "ServerLayout" in your xorg.conf?
[22:45] <owen1> ok. many of the solutions are talking about hal. isn't in removed from karmic?
[22:46] <owen1> let me see
[22:46] <BlueEagle> hal is the hardware abstraction layer and it's still here.
[22:47] <BlueEagle> which one of hal and xorg.conf CorePointer is the least wrong way to configure it I do not know.
[22:48] <BlueEagle> owen1: You're attempting to disable the touchpad while writing?
[22:49] <owen1> BlueEagle: yes, i know i can use syndaemon -t which will still keep the touch active, but the keys will still be typed at the same location and not 'jump' to the location of the pointer.
[22:50] <owen1> if i will not be able to achieve this i'll do a delay, and if the delay will not work, i'll cancel it whenever i type.
[22:50] <owen1> i have 3 sections in my xorg.conf:
[22:50] <owen1> device, monitor and screen
[22:51] <BlueEagle> Then you would want to add two sections; ServerLayout and InputDevice
[22:52] <BlueEagle> Section "ServerLayout"\n Identifier "Layout0"\n Screen "Default Screen"\n InputDevice "Mouse0"\n EndSection
[22:52] <BlueEagle> (\n indicates new line)
[22:53] <BlueEagle> Section "InputDevice"\n Identifier "Mouse0"\n Driver "mouse"\n EndSection
[22:54] <BlueEagle> In this section you would most likely add the alterations found in various guides.
[22:54] <BlueEagle> I do not remember if touchpads use the synaptics driver.
[22:56] <BlueEagle> In many cases it is desireable to have a Section "Module" in here to make sure the glx extension loads.
[22:57] <BlueEagle> Oh and in ServerLayout the line for mouse should be: InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
[22:58] <owen1> BlueEagle: instead of the Identifier "Mouse0"?
[22:58] <owen1> oh. sorry
[22:58] <owen1> 1 sec
[22:59] <BlueEagle> owen1: The CoreKeyboard should remaind default. If not you may need a section to define that aswell. (ie if your keyboard isn't working any more)
[23:02] <owen1> BlueEagle: does it look ok? http://pastebin.com/mac21428
[23:03] <CountDown> I'm in the process of installing Xubuntu 9.10 on an iBook G4.  Since the install ISO is too large for a regular 700MB CD, I installed Ubuntu 9.10 first.  I'm trying to remap the Apple left and right command keys to middle and right mouse buttons, respectively.  However, xev is telling me that both left and right command keys are issuing the same keycode (133, which is Super_L).  Is this a hardware limitation, or can I change a config
[23:04] <BlueEagle> owen1: That should work as far as I can tell.
[23:04] <BlueEagle> owen1: However the reason you want to do this is so that you can add some Option-lines in the mouse section so you would need to add those to get the desired result.
[23:05] <BlueEagle> countdown: I am thinking !mac
[23:05] <BlueEagle> !mac
[23:05] <BlueEagle> hmm.. not the one I wanted.
[23:06] <BlueEagle> !apple
[23:06] <CountDown> BlueEagle: Thanks for the pointer.
[23:06] <CountDown> I tried macbuntu, but it's empty.
[23:06] <BlueEagle> countdown: Anytime. ;)
[23:12] <owen1> BlueEagle: i googled for configuring touchpads and i see that one solution to enable SMHConfig is to add an xml file: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi.  is it going to help me?
[23:12] <BlueEagle> owen1: That I do not know
[23:12] <BlueEagle> owen1: I do know that a friend of mine attempted to help an ex-g/f of his do that exact thing without success.
[23:13] <BlueEagle> owen1: Do you want to disable tapping on the pad completely or just while typing?
[23:14] <owen1> BlueEagle: i prefer the typing but will compermise..
[23:14] <owen1> compromise
[23:15] <BlueEagle> Because what my friends ex-g/f ended up doing was disable tapping alltogether and just use the buttons.
[23:15] <owen1> sure
[23:15] <BlueEagle> gsynaptics does that efficiently.
[23:15] <owen1> when i try running it i get: you have to set shmconfig true
[23:15] <owen1> how do i do that?
[23:16] <BlueEagle> That is something I've never seen before. :/
[23:16] <owen1> i'll google for it.
[23:17] <BlueEagle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsynaptics/+bug/132627
[23:17] <BlueEagle> I google faster than you. You need to add: Option "SHMConfig" "true" to the mouse section of your xorg.conf
[23:18] <owen1> you mean the new SereverLayout?
[23:18] <BlueEagle> No, the one with identifier Mouse0
[23:18] <BlueEagle> ie, you're only setting the option for the touch pad
[23:19] <BlueEagle> Also you would want to change the driver from "mouse" to "synaptics"
[23:19] <BlueEagle> since you have a synaptics device and not a mouse like the cfg I cut-and-pasted from.
[23:19] <owen1> ok. let me open the link
[23:21] <BlueEagle> owen1: There is a section "InputDevice" in the 4th answer which will most likely be helpful.
[23:22] <owen1> BlueEagle: can i copy the whole thing?
[23:24] <BlueEagle> owen1: The Identifier line is used to identify the section elsewhere (like in ServerLayout) so if you "copy the whole thing" then your config will break unless you also update the ServerLayout.
[23:24] <owen1> got it
[23:24] <BlueEagle> owen1: see also http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=copy+paste+monkey
[23:25] <owen1> so only replacing "mouse" with "sytaptic" and adding the shmconfig?
[23:25] <BlueEagle> Try it. :)
[23:26] <owen1> i guess i need to logout?
[23:27] <BlueEagle> The xorg.conf is only read when the X server starts.
[23:27] <BlueEagle> a logout should also restart the X server. Alternately an /etc/init.d/gdm restart will do the trick.
[23:28] <owen1> BlueEagle: i still get the same error with setting shmconfig
[23:30] <BlueEagle> Then I do not know. :/
[23:30] <owen1> thank you, i'll post my xorg there and also read all of the discussionn
[23:31] <BlueEagle> Best of luck to you. I have to go to bed.
[23:35] <owen1> thanks
[23:45] <knome> a logout won't restart X
[23:45] <knome> at least not completely