| researcher | Hello friends. I m just new here.anybody got edubuntu in Indian languages? | 01:50 |
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| * Ahmuck is thinking about traveling to canada. any suggestions? | 18:08 | |
| jussi01 | does edubuntu include applications for educators? | 18:27 |
| jussi01 | and is there some where I can find a list of apps inlcuded? | 18:28 |
| dgroos | jussi01: interesting question... | 19:01 |
| dgroos | what kind of apps are you talking about? | 19:01 |
| dgroos | (referring to the first of your questions here...) | 19:01 |
| jussi01 | dgroos: I was thinking of report writing apps, lesson planning apps etc | 19:02 |
| jussi01 | dgroos: ie. http://www.schooltool.org/ | 19:02 |
| dgroos | jussi01: I must admit I've not used it as my district has its own tools for these critical tasks. | 20:06 |
| dgroos | I've heard good things about schooltools and about Tom Hoffman's work. As I understand he is good at communicating and would be happy to answer your questions. | 20:07 |
| dgroos | There are other tools as well for teachers who manage the learning environment. For example there is Sabayon--recently brought up to speed by sbalneav. | 20:08 |
| dgroos | This app helps manage the permissions of users and I think he said he now has it so that you can manage users by groups? | 20:09 |
| dgroos | Somewhat related is a particular file on the filesystem so that you can customize it and thereby manage users Firefox preferences. | 20:11 |
| dgroos | Of course there is Moodle which is a pretty full-featured CMS (perhaps included on the install disk--I heard talk about considering doing this). | 20:13 |
| dgroos | I prefer Plone as my CMS however, more generic and malleable and looks lots nicer. That is also open source though not part of Edubuntu. | 20:14 |
| dgroos | I really like CmapTools and CmapServer which are powerful tools, the former adding awesome online capabilities of sharing and collaboration. | 20:15 |
| dgroos | Finally, these folks in Finland recently came out with their scaffolding 'knowledge building' software that is a WordPress plugin--here's a demo to it: http://fle4.uiah.fi/2009/08/demo-of-kb/ | 20:23 |
| dgroos | The user and group admin app is pretty weak in general and is currently, probably, the weakest link for me in the whole system. | 20:24 |
| dgroos | There is I'm sure a list of apps included though I've not seen it. Anyone? | 20:25 |
| highvoltage | WIDGTT? | 21:08 |
| dgroos | hmmm... that means? | 21:10 |
| highvoltage | Who Is DGroos Talking To? :) | 21:10 |
| highvoltage | hey there dgroos | 21:10 |
| dgroos | High hivoltage! | 21:11 |
| dgroos | himself, usually ;) | 21:11 |
| highvoltage | I see I'm not the only one up late! | 21:11 |
| dgroos | Well... I just admit that it is only 3:11 in the afternoon here... | 21:11 |
| dgroos | You are in Germany? | 21:11 |
| highvoltage | dgroos: close (timezone-wise), South Africa | 21:12 |
| highvoltage | dgroos: for some reason I thought you were in Europe | 21:12 |
| dgroos | Ah right! I knew that... | 21:12 |
| dgroos | Well, several generations ago that would have been true... | 21:13 |
| dgroos | but then I guess pretty much everyone is from somewhere else if you go back far enough. | 21:13 |
| dgroos | So, I've been asked this before, where can I get a list of apps included in an edubuntu version? | 21:14 |
| highvoltage | we should have a web page for that | 21:15 |
| dgroos | (I should probably just let you finish what you are doing so you could go to bed...) | 21:15 |
| highvoltage | it's a good and typical question which we don't really have answered somewhere atm | 21:15 |
| highvoltage | heh no worries | 21:15 |
| dgroos | a web page would be good... | 21:16 |
| highvoltage | hmm there's http://www.edubuntu.org/applications but it's in serious need of updating | 21:16 |
| dgroos | How hard would it be for the ubuntu web site to have some wysiwyg editing options? That would not only make it a site | 21:17 |
| highvoltage | I usually tell people it's KDE-Edu, Gcompris, Tux4kids and a few other loose edu apps | 21:17 |
| highvoltage | dgroos: I've been wondering whether Wordpress wouldn't be better in terms of editing and maintenance | 21:17 |
| dgroos | ... friendlier to semi-techies, but also would allow us to more easily have better looking pages. | 21:17 |
| highvoltage | drupal has better social networking tools and functionality | 21:17 |
| highvoltage | but it doesn't help us if we're never going to use it anyway | 21:18 |
| dgroos | That is true :) | 21:18 |
| dgroos | It's a bit of the chicken vs egg conundrum--hard to have one without the other... | 21:18 |
| highvoltage | I think there are some wysiwyg plugins for drupal we could try out as well, although I think the current drupal installation is very outdated | 21:20 |
| highvoltage | that's one thing that I like about wordpress as well, it's so simple to keep up to date | 21:20 |
| dgroos | hmmm... would this be a moment to put out a plug for Plone...? It is hugely extensible, a mature open source project and vigorously improveing, excellent security (at least according to those in the know) and looks good. | 21:22 |
| dgroos | here's my favorite plone site: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov | 21:23 |
| highvoltage | I like the vigorously improving part... but I'm sceptical on the rest :) | 21:23 |
| highvoltage | Ubuntu's site used to run on Plone | 21:23 |
| dgroos | Really!? | 21:23 |
| highvoltage | it fell over and they couldn't get it back up again... and that's with Canonical even having lots of great python/zope/etc people | 21:24 |
| highvoltage | yep, it was plone right from the start | 21:24 |
| highvoltage | and then they switched to moin | 21:24 |
| highvoltage | and then drupal | 21:24 |
| dgroos | when was that? I've used it in my classroom since 2005. It really is quite slick but once again, it takes a learning curve :-( | 21:24 |
| dgroos | Right. It can be a drag when Things Go Bad... | 21:25 |
| dgroos | You know... I just got this right now: highvoltage: WIDGTT? | 21:27 |
| dgroos | [3:10pm] dgroos: hmmm... that means? | 21:27 |
| dgroos | [3:10pm] highvoltage: Who Is DGroos Talking To? | 21:27 |
| dgroos | slow on the uptake :-) | 21:27 |
| dgroos | that was Jussi01, I thought, though rather asynchronously. | 21:31 |
| highvoltage | hehe | 21:34 |
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