[00:00] <Laeborg> ah, thank you so much! :P
[00:00] <iconmefisto> or just copy/symlink the script to ~/.kde/Autostart
[00:00] <Laeborg> do I need a script to remove the symbolic links on shutdown?
[00:01] <trudell> I need nvida patch or any solution for nvidia driver 96 on 2.6.31 linux kernel (Kubuntu Karmic Koala or other)
[00:01] <trudell> I need nvida patch or any solution for nvidia driver 96 on 2.6.31 linux kernel (Kubuntu Karmic Koala or other)
[00:01] <trudell> I need nvida patch or any solution for nvidia driver 96 on 2.6.31 linux kernel (Kubuntu Karmic Koala or other)
[00:01] <FloodBotK3> trudell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <iconmefisto> Laeborg: what symbolic links?
[00:02] <Laeborg> ln -s /media/Windows/User/Laeborg/Documents /home/Laeborg
[00:03] <trudell> driver nvidiaaaaaaaaaaaa
[00:03] <Laeborg> Do think you will get your driver with that atitude
[00:04] <Laeborg> *Don't
[00:04] <Brhad56> hi
[00:04] <iconmefisto> Laeborg: I don't see why you would need to remove the symlink. maybe I don't quite understand
[00:05] <trudell> nv driver
[00:05] <trudell> nv driver
[00:05] <trudell> i want nvdriver
[00:06] <Laeborg> Please just shut up trudell....
[00:06] <Brhad56> install driver then?
[00:06] <trudell> nv driver
[00:07] <trudell> i'm writing not talking
[00:07] <loadus> you're flooding
[00:07] <Brhad56> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia
[00:08] <trudell> i 'm to want nv drivers
[00:09] <iconmefisto> try that link trudell?
[00:09] <trudell> I need nvida patch or any solution for nvidia driver 96 on 2.6.31 linux kernel (Kubuntu Karmic Koala or other)
[00:09] <loadus> why?
[00:09] <trudell> cause i need
[00:10] <Laeborg> oh kiddo....
[00:10] <loadus> by "why?" I mean, what is your problem with the drivers
[00:10] <adaptr> I need lotsamoney
[00:10] <adaptr> because I NEED
[00:11] <trudell> these guide dont work in karmic koala
[00:11] <loadus> yes they do
[00:11] <trudell> i need some patch for kernel 2.6.31 kubuntu
[00:11] <trudell> all distro run nvidia in this kernel
[00:11] <trudell> only s***t kubuntu not
[00:11] <Laeborg> All you need is a life....
[00:12] <trudell> and you needs to die
[00:12] <Laeborg> Naah i'm not that old.
[00:12] <merquis> Anyone having problems with cheese webcam app? seems to crash since 9.10 :(
[00:12] <loadus> trudell: well, I'm on Karmic, with kernel 2.6.31-14-generic, with the 185 nvidia driver
[00:13] <loadus> trudell: installed via that hardware drivers installer
[00:13] <Laeborg> I don't have any problems after upgrade to Karmic Koala :)
[00:14] <iconmefisto> trudell: if you don't like kubuntu, you can use another distro that works for you
[00:19] <dlong> hello
[00:19] <loadus> lo
[00:22] <jepong> hello... anything wrong with the repos today?
[00:22] <jepong> karmic-security seems down
[00:23] <jepong> hello... anything wrong with the repos today?
[00:23] <jepong> karmic-security seems down
[00:24] <loadus> jepong: don't know, could be maintenance/temporary network glitch at either end
[00:25] <jepong> loadus... thanks
[00:26] <Dragnslcr> jepong- security.ubuntu.com seems to be down here, too
[00:27] <trudell> all secutiy is down
[00:28] <trudell> kubuntu isnt security
[00:28] <trudell> better you migrate to debian
[00:28] <trudell> kubuntu isnt to human, is to animals
[00:29] <Laeborg> oh you so lame....
[00:29] <iconmefisto> or just use a different download server
[00:29] <trudell> for this reason yours distribution have animals namexs
[00:29] <trudell> and you are so gay
[00:29] <trudell> turn to a man, a macho man
[00:29] <Laeborg> no i'm not ;)
[00:30] <trudell> yes, you are
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> trudell- stop trolling
[00:30] <loadus> trudell: remember what Linus said: "If you build an OS to morons, then morons will use it."
[00:30] <trudell> be macho, muchacho
[00:30] <Laeborg> oh god kiddo..
[00:31] <trudell> its really
[00:31] <trudell> its true
[00:31] <loadus> trudell: so you better switch to win7 asap
[00:31] <trudell> only idiots uses kubuntu
[00:31] <loadus> yes, only true heros use ms products
[00:31] <loadus> be a hero
[00:31] <trudell> yeah
[00:31] <trudell> win 7 has not this problems
[00:32] <iconmefisto> this is all very off-topic
[00:32] <loadus> no, win7 all new set of problems
[00:32] <loadus> has*
[00:32] <trudell> i have found solutios for linux
[00:32] <trudell> but i cant found solutions for great number of bugs from kubuntu distribution
[00:32] <trudell> all distro have problems, but all have solution
[00:33] <loadus> when you find a bug, report it to the developers at the bugtracker
[00:33] <trudell> kubuntu have problems for e
[00:33] <trudell> for years and noone solution
[00:33] <Laeborg> I have always found a solution when I had problems
[00:33] <iconmefisto> so ask about the problems and stop complaining
[00:33] <Laeborg> Do you know a website called 'google.com' ?
[00:33] <trudell> kubuntu kernel is just bugs
[00:34] <trudell> need total recompilation
[00:34] <loadus> trudell: people spend waay too much time whining on forums and IRC instead of reporting the bugs, that's why they are not fixed
[00:34] <trudell> i prefer debian packages, so i think serious to migrte to debian
[00:34] <Laeborg> Then stop complaining and go switch...
[00:34] <trudell> fedora is better but i dislike rpm system
[00:34] <loadus> trudell: go for it, GNU/Linux is about choice
[00:35] <iconmefisto> trudell: this is a support channel for kubuntu
[00:35] <Dragnslcr> !ot | trudell
[00:35] <trudell> yeah, and where is my solution?
[00:36] <loadus> you have been offered a solution
[00:36] <trudell> if i post my problem you all says that i 'm flooding
[00:36] <Laeborg> You don't get it with that atitude
[00:36] <loadus> but your description of the problem was vague at best
[00:36] <trudell> if you all are incompetents, shut up all
[00:36] <trudell> and left my posts to competents peoples
 i'm writing not talking
[00:37] <loadus> trudell: insulting people on the channel will not give you a solution
[00:37] <trudell> i am inulting only idiots
[00:38] <trudell> so, shut up
[00:38] <trudell> i hate idiots
[00:38] <iconmefisto> people here want to help, but you're making it hard
[00:38] <Dragnslcr> trudell- if you continue behaving this way, you'll most likely be banned from the channel
[00:38] <trudell> where appears inteligent peoples i talk with her/his
[00:38] <trudell> her/him
[00:38] <loadus> trudell: did you try the install instructions from the link?
[00:39] <trudell> well
[00:39] <trudell> ban me
[00:39] <loadus> it should install the latest drivers for your nvidia card
[00:39] <trudell> where?
 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia
[00:39] <trudell> dont work i was said
[00:39] <loadus> doesn't work ----> why?
[00:39] <trudell> i need funcional patch
[00:40] <loadus> you need a functional patch -------> why?
[00:40] <loadus> ----> to do what?
[00:40] <trudell> in nv forum only have incomplete patchs
[00:40] <loadus> your card doesn't work with the latest drivers?
[00:40] <iconmefisto> trudell: jockey-text --help
[00:40] <loadus> gives corrupt image / odd artifacts? or what?
[00:41] <trudell> no, dont work with last cause kernel is incompatible with drivers
[00:41] <trudell> and kubuntu cant compile drivers
[00:41] <loadus> yes, the 96 is incompatible, tried it myself
[00:41] <trudell> kubuntu has serious problems with graphics cards
[00:41] <loadus> ----> 185 drivers
[00:41] <loadus> through the hardware driver installer
[00:42] <loadus> and we're back to square one
[00:42] <trudell> i was have tried 185, but dont work too
[00:42] <loadus> what card do you have
[00:42] <trudell> cause now driver was united with 190
[00:42] <iconmefisto> trudell: this is nvidia drivers you're talking about, by the way. not kubuntu drivers
[00:42] <trudell> i have GeForce 2 MX
[00:43] <loadus> well, let's take a look at the supported list on nvidia's home page
[00:43] <loadus> momento
[00:43] <trudell> kubuntu drivers dont work. i need a way to install trhought nvidia drivers
[00:44] <loadus> (and I was going to draw new icons tonight ...)
[00:44] <trudell> by patch or other way
[00:44] <iconmefisto> trudell: try in konsole:  jockey-text -l    and     jockey-text -C
[00:45] <loadus> it doesn't matter, if the drivers don't support your card, GF2 MX is a bit ancient and if I remember, buggy
[00:45] <trudell> do you think that it will works?
[00:46] <loadus> hang on, I'm going through nvidia pages
[00:46] <loadus> oldest card supported is GF 4
[00:47] <trudell> kubuntu nvdriver install trhought jokey kde but images appears incorrectly and crash all system
[00:47] <loadus> and that's not Kubuntu's fault, but NVidia's
[00:47] <trudell> dont
[00:47] <loadus> I suggest you march into the nearest PC store and get yourself a new card
[00:47] <trudell> nvidia lauched nvdia driver for kernel 2.6.31
[00:47] <loadus> unless it's a laptop of course
[00:48] <trudell> and newer
[00:48] <iconmefisto> but not for your card
[00:48] <iconmefisto> complain to nvidia and see what they say
[00:48] <trudell> yes, for my card
[00:49] <trudell> 96.43.14
[00:49] <trudell> in slackware installs well
[00:49] <trudell> in kubuntu not
[00:50] <trudell> and slackware have newer kernel
[00:50] <loadus> did you try to install it through the package manager or apt-get
[00:50] <trudell> kernel 2.6.31 in slackware is obsolete
[00:51] <trudell> no way for it
[00:51] <trudell> i was tried
[00:51] <loadus> and a quick question between: you are SURE that your card works with 96.43.14, I mean you have SEEN it work?
[00:51] <trudell> no way to compile by module-assistant
[00:52] <trudell> yes, slackware runs
[00:52] <loadus> and what's wrong with 96.43.13 that's listed on the KPackageKit?
[00:52] <trudell> its a problem with kubuntu kernel
[00:53] <loadus> 0.0.01 version shift won't make your card run any faster
[00:53] <trudell> 96.43.13 dont run
[00:53] <loadus> ah
[00:53] <trudell> bad compilation, maybe
[00:53] <loadus> well, the solution is simple
[00:53] <loadus> new card / different distro
[00:53] <loadus> por favor
[00:54] <trudell> welll
[00:54] <trudell> different distro
[00:54] <trudell> cause tomorrow new problem
[00:54] <trudell> kubuntu sucks
[00:54] <loadus> right
[00:54] <trudell> kubuntu is a decepticon
[00:55] <trudell> loadus, are you programmer?
[00:55] <loadus> I'm a graphic artist
[00:56] <trudell> from brazil?
[00:56] <loadus> is that a Kubuntu Support question?
[01:00] <trudell> no, only arember to you
[01:00] <trudell> be human, dude
[01:00] <trudell> be human
[01:01] <trudell> sice hardy kubuntu have a number unçlimite of bugs
[01:01] <trudell> needs to start from zero
[01:02] <trudell> peoples like you causes this problem
[01:02] <trudell> youdont have love in your job
[01:02] <trudell> dont be a child, be a man
[01:02] <loadus> trudell: Yes, content Kubuntu users like me that give advice on their free time are the biggest problem in the community, you're right
[01:03] <trudell> you need to work. dont made idiot things
[01:03] <loadus> I do need to work on the kubuntu io icons, instead, I'm making idiot things like trying to help you and you insult me
[01:03] <loadus> and everyone on this channel
[01:03] <loadus> I find that interesting
[01:04] <trudell> i m here too, to help you ananothers
[01:04] <trudell> and anothers
[01:04] <trudell> my contribution
[01:04] <loadus> through insults?
[01:05] <trudell> i m tired of ignorant peoples
[01:05] <trudell> never has a solution for stupid mans
[01:05] <trudell> men
[01:05] <trudell> to me
[01:06] <trudell> always have a way to find a solution
[01:07] <loadus> with the information that you provided me with, I gave you solutions
[01:07] <loadus> and I hope they help you
[01:07] <iconmefisto> so trudell, you have installed the nvidia binary driver, but it doesn't perform well? or it doesn't work at all?
[01:08] <befree> imstonedlikeastone..sure 100/
[01:11] <szadek> trudell »» ms vista or seven is the right choice for you .... that kind of attitude is right when you pay for something ... and you should have support on it , dont waste the time of some well intended people that get nothing from helping you ... and when they try that is what they get ??  man you dont know clearly how to live in community , and , in a thing like this , community driven, this is not your place .... when something doenst
[01:11] <szadek>  work , you should help otheres help you , not insult others to help you .
[01:12] <szadek> and when you say " i'm tired of ignorant people " ... you should look into the mirror more times before saying those things ...
[01:15] <trudell> thank you so much loadus
[01:15] <loadus> trudell: np, hope you'll get it sort it out
[01:15] <trudell> you will be helping me and another users
[01:16] <trudell> sure, i will need
[01:16] <loadus> does anyone know how to install QTCurve theme using a bash script?
[01:17] <trudell> cause most of patches are incompletes, and module assistant have bugs to compile drivers from source
[01:17] <ericG> hey everyone, on my eeepc sometimes when grub loads my keyboard doesn't respond, and then when kde loads the keyboard works but the mouse doesn't.  After restarting my eee it works again. Has anyone experienced something like this?
[01:18] <trudell> loadus, do you need it compiling from source?
[01:18] <trudell> a long time i was compiled all gnome 2.0 and qt engines to kurumin distribution
[01:19] <loadus> trudell: no, it's just a list of settings, but I'm not sure where they go, but I'll search the web, until I find it
[01:19] <trudell> well
[01:20] <loadus> just quickly asked if someone has done it, faster solution
[01:20] <trudell> if you are using kde you can edit kde options
[01:20] <trudell> but i dont know any script tha do it
[01:20] <loadus> don't worry, I'll find the solution :)
[01:21] <Levi`> dtchen, ping.
[01:21] <dtchen> Levi`: have you filed a bug report?
[01:21] <Levi`> Negative, no i have not
[01:21] <dtchen> Levi`: please do so. ubuntu-bug alsa-base, please.
[01:22] <chilli0> Hello
[01:22] <chilli0> How can i get rid of this stupid thing?
[01:22] <Levi`> ok done
[01:22] <trudell> well, i have a sugestion
[01:22] <chilli0> Its the ittle foot looking thing
[01:23] <dtchen> Levi`: bug #?
[01:23] <Levi`> alsa-base: command not found
[01:23] <chilli0> when i click on it it says , Add widgets zoom out , lock widgets , appearents settings
[01:23] <trudell> i found in kde-looks.org a theme to kde called v-like
[01:23] <Lunatico> I need hlp with Kubuntu pls
[01:23] <Levi`> oh no, i got a crash dtchen .
[01:23] <trudell> v-like change all system, including qtcurve
[01:24] <dtchen> Levi`: from running "ubuntu-bug alsa-base" in a Konsole?
[01:24] <Levi`> dtchen,  http://pastebin.com/d1e32e6d7
[01:24] <trudell> maybe helps you, but dont have scripts
[01:24] <Lunatico> I need hlp with Kubuntu pls
[01:24] <loadus> chilli0: You're probably referring to the plasma control - I think it's there to stay
[01:24] <chilli0> O=
[01:24] <chilli0> But its not attatched to anything.
[01:24] <chilli0> Just by its self , and i can move it around.
[01:24] <Levi`> dtchen, http://pastebin.com/d74cb85cd
[01:25] <trudell> chill
[01:25] <Levi`> ?
[01:25] <trudell> use block widgets in upper right
[01:25] <dtchen> Levi`: that's fine, just download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh to your Desktop, and run it using bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[01:27] <chilli0> loadus:  Ill show you a sc
[01:27] <Levi`> i may sound like a retard, but File->Save Page as doesnt work
[01:27] <Levi`> ah wget
[01:28] <trudell> loadus, here are patchs to kernel 2.6.25 that never worked in kubuntu http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=110088
[01:28] <chilli0> This is it  http://imagebin.ca/view/9DvbciaE.html
[01:28] <chilli0> Down the left corner
[01:28] <trudell> since hardy kubuntu never run any solution. its a disgrace
[01:29] <trudell> just for example
[01:30] <Levi`> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=01f7e398cf32af2b6a55e7784d990aea188d01fd
[01:30] <loadus> chilli0: when you hover over it, does it show a bar with X on it?
[01:30] <Levi`> dtchen, that is where it says my info is
[01:30] <dtchen> Levi`: sec
[01:30] <chilli0> loadus:  Nah , it just lights up yellow
[01:30] <Levi`> brb cig
[01:31] <loadus> chilli0: no, wait, just tried it myself, it's attached to the screenedge always
[01:31] <dtchen> Levi`: amixer set 'IEC958',0
[01:31] <dtchen> Levi`: sorry
[01:31] <trudell> well chill, where is the problem?
[01:31] <chilli0> trudell: I want get rid of it
[01:31] <dtchen> Levi`:  amixer set 'IEC958',0 mute && amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 0
[01:31] <chilli0> loadus:  Yeh  i know , i dont have any clue how it got there.
[01:31] <chilli0> trudell:  down the left corner
[01:31] <loadus> chilli0: I suggest you move it to the upper-left or upper-right corner so it won't bother that much
[01:32] <chilli0> I have one in my upper right allready
[01:32] <chilli0> embeded in the  pannel
[01:32] <loadus> chilli0: I myself prefer a clean desktop and it took a while to get used to that control widget that I never use
[01:32] <surgy> hello
[01:33] <surgy> hey guys i need some 32bit libraries namely: libgtk-1.2.so.0
[01:33] <surgy> where can i find it?
[01:33] <trudell> i never had tried to do it
[01:34] <trudell> do you want completly clear?
[01:35] <surgy> what?:
[01:35] <trudell> chill, do you want completly clear?
[01:36] <Levi`> dtchen, i have done that
[01:36] <trudell> surgy, this library is now obsolete
[01:36] <trudell> you will must download it from kubuntu packages, the lastet version is in hardy
[01:36] <chilli0> trudell:  I just want to remove that one
[01:36] <Levi`> dtchen, http://pastebin.com/d395a4aae
[01:37] <loadus> surgy: Install libgtk1.2-common
[01:37] <dtchen> Levi`: is "speaker-test -c2 -l2 -twav" audible?
[01:37] <surgy> i am running the 64 bit os and i need the 32 bit version of the library
[01:37] <trudell> and you will need install it manually, sudo dpkg --install name of library
[01:37] <Levi`> dtchen, negtaive no sound
[01:37] <dtchen> Levi`: can you mute External Amplifier?
[01:38] <Levi`> i am not sure how to do so
[01:39] <dtchen> Levi`: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[01:39] <dtchen> Levi`: you could also use alsamixer or KMix
[01:39] <Levi`> okay i typed that command
[01:39] <dtchen> Levi`: now try the speaker-test command again
[01:40] <Levi`> no audio yet
[01:40] <trudell> down here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy&searchon=names&keywords=libgtk%201.2
[01:40] <trudell> loadus, in karmic is obsolete
[01:41] <dtchen> Levi`: amixer set 'Master Mono' unmute
[01:41] <Levi`> dtchen, done and retested audio.. none
[01:41] <loadus> surgy: what do you need it for?
[01:41] <trudell> well uninstall plasma-common
[01:41] <trudell> try it
[01:42] <surgy> epsxe
[01:42] <trudell> chill, well uninstall plasma-common
[01:42] <surgy> it takes two 32 bit libraries
[01:42] <trudell> surgy down here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy&searchon=names&keywords=libgtk%201.2
[01:42] <surgy> i just need to know how to find them i know where to put them i just need to know where to get them
[01:43] <trudell> then install it manually, sudo dpkg --install name of library
[01:43] <surgy>  libgtk-1.2.so.0 is in that list?
[01:43] <trudell> yeah
[01:43] <surgy> trudel
[01:43] <loadus> surgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1162709
[01:43] <trudell> Package libgtk1.2 and Package libgtk1.2-Common
[01:43] <bythe9s> is it possible to redireect my audio output into a file or to the microphone?
[01:43] <trudell> if you needs dev, down dev too
[01:44] <surgy> im not understanding
[01:44] <surgy> so i have to download two packages in order to get my one library?
[01:45] <Levi`> dtchen, i am running out of solutions aren't i?
[01:45] <bythe9s> I am trying to rip some music from myspace, but I can
[01:45] <surgy> and after i get the package how am i supposed to get just the library out?
[01:45] <trudell> surgy, go to this site http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy&searchon=names&keywords=libgtk%201.2
[01:45] <dtchen> Levi`: please just wait a second; I'm pretty busy. Expecting immediate answers is really obnoxious.
[01:45] <bythe9s> t find a program to do it. SO I am wondiering if it's possible to redirect the audio data somehou
[01:45] <trudell> then download Package libgtk1.2 and Package libgtk1.2-Common
[01:46] <trudell> doiwnload to desktop then in terminal
[01:46] <trudell> ~/Desktop sudo dpkg --install name_of_packagres.deb
[01:46] <loadus> surgy: see the link I posted (epsxe in 64-bit ubuntu)
[01:47] <surgy> yeah and i searched my repos for the program "getlibs" that he said to use and it isnt in my repos and i have universe and multi verse enabled
[01:47] <loadus> bythe9s: use firefox with the Video Download Helper plugin (or similar) to save audiofiles/videofiles from webpages
[01:48] <loadus> bythe9s: there might be other tools as well for saving mediafiles
[01:48] <surgy> nvm i found it
[01:49] <bythe9s> Ya I tried the extensions for firefox but none of them pick up the media player
[01:50] <bythe9s> looks like jack audio kit will do it, but I have had a hard time getting it to work in the past
[01:50] <surgy> loadus: The following i386 packages will be installed:
[01:50] <surgy> libgtk1.2
[01:50] <surgy> Continue [Y/n]? y
[01:50] <surgy> libgtk1.2 was not found in your repositories
[01:50] <FloodBotK3> surgy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:51] <Levi`> i was instructed to install a PPA, i am unsure of this process
[01:52] <surgy> ... help?
[01:52] <loadus> surgy: a minute, I'm looking into that, I have 64-bit system myself
[01:52] <surgy> loadus: thank you
[01:52] <trudell> surgy, go to this site http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy&searchon=names&keywords=libgtk%201.2
[01:52] <trudell> then download Package libgtk1.2 and Package libgtk1.2-Common
[01:52] <trudell> doiwnload to desktop then in terminal
[01:52] <trudell> ~/Desktop sudo dpkg --install name_of_packagres.deb
[01:53] <surgy> trudell: and what wil lthat do?
[01:53] <surgy> trudell: wont that just install the 64bit version?
[01:53] <trudell> wich distribution is?
[01:54] <trudell> 32bit version works too
[01:54] <surgy> trudell: i am running kubuntu 64bit...... i need 32bit libraries......
[01:54] <trudell> surgy, click here http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2_1.2.10-18.1build2_i386.deb
[01:55] <surgy> trudell: i dont think you are understanding my problem but thank you for trying
[01:55] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[01:55] <trudell> and here http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-18.1build2_all.deb
[01:56] <trudell> download 32-bits libraries
[01:56] <Levi`> i was instructed to install a PPA, with an updated kernel.. i am unsure of this process
[01:56] <trudell> it will install in your distro
[01:56] <surgy> trudel
[01:56] <surgy> those are packages not libraries
[01:56] <loadus> surgy: all forums posts give a solution through getlibs ..?
[01:56] <surgy> loadus: getlibs is saying i dont have the repo enabled for the 32bit gtk1.2 lib
[01:57] <trudell> are packages containing libraries that you will need to run epsxe
[01:57] <trudell> trust me
[01:57] <trudell> its more easy install by dpkg
[01:57] <surgy> trudell ever try to install a 32bit package on a 64 bit machine? doesnt work
[01:58] <trudell> no need work
[01:58] <trudell> only libraries are needed
[01:59] <trudell> gtk-1.2 is obsolete, not present in karmic
[01:59] <loadus> surgy: trudell is right, the package does include the missing lib, but you'd have to move it to the correct folder manually
[01:59] <trudell> so install it manually
[01:59] <surgy> trudell: then your gonna have to be more clear on your instructions
[01:59] <Levi`> worthless
[01:59] <surgy> how do i do that?
[01:59] <loadus> surgy: the .deb package is basically a compressed file
[01:59] <trudell> well
[02:00] <loadus> extract the contents
[02:00] <trudell> first download
[02:00] <trudell> surgy, click here http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2_1.2.10-18.1build2_i386.deb
[02:00] <loadus> and extract the contents of data.tar.gz
[02:00] <trudell> and here http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-18.1build2_all.deb
[02:01] <trudell> then sudo dpkg --install /libgtk1.2_1.2.10-18.1build2_i386.deb libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-18.1build2_all.deb
[02:01] <trudell> i have theses libraries installed in my karmic and works well
[02:01] <trudell> i have epsxe instaled too
[02:02] <flootenkerp> Anyone here use Startup-manager?
[02:02] <surgy> trudel so i can just install those libraries without extracting or anythign and it works?
[02:02] <trudell> or use the sugestion of loadus, by ark
[02:02] <zerq_> I installed regular ubuntu.. trying to install latest kde now.. added the souce and did aptitude update but it still says no package found when i try to install kde.. what am i missing?\
[02:03] <zerq_> added the pgp key also
[02:03] <trudell> if libraries be incorrectly directory, yes
[02:03] <trudell> if libraries are incorrectly directory, yes
[02:04] <zerq_> is the meta package not called kde anymore?
[02:05] <flootenkerp> Does anyone here use Startup-manager? I need a little help.
[02:06] <zerq_> i guess kubuntu-desktop works anyway
[02:06] <zerq_> strange that kde doesn't
[02:08] <WilliamBuell> i am new to Ubuntu, but, so far, so good
[02:08] <WilliamBuell> desktop works fine in Ubuntu install, i know that
[02:09] <chilli0> Hey
[02:09] <chilli0> Im not sure if this is the right place ,,,
[02:09] <chilli0> http://pastebin.com/d347a9ba
[02:10] <trudell> hi bill, how do yu do?
[02:10] <chilli0> Anyone know how to fix that error?
[02:10] <chilli0> good. Im trying to install the irc plasmoid
[02:10] <chilli0> But not compiling
[02:11] <surgy> trudell: when i click your links it just brings up pages of cryptic symbols
[02:16] <loadus> chilli0: You probably need kde4 dev packages, but I'm not sure
[02:16] <surgy> ok i downloaded both debs
[02:16] <surgy> i extracted both debs
[02:17] <chilli0> loadus: n
[02:17] <surgy> i stil lcant find libgtk-1.2.so.0
[02:17] <chilli0> Whats the package name?
[02:17] <surgy> i just need this 32bit library
[02:17] <surgy> ..... this should be simple
[02:17] <fortuna66> hi..i wanna see on Miro Internt TV some Videos
[02:17] <fortuna66> but cant see anything
[02:18] <fortuna66> some codecs missing
[02:18] <fortuna66> anybody help me?
[02:18] <flootenkerp> Does anyone here use Startup-manager? I need a little help.
[02:19] <loadus> chilli0: I don't know .. hang on a bit, I'll do some searching
[02:19] <chilli0> k thanks
[02:20] <chilli0> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=108428
[02:23] <loadus> chilli0: kdelibs5-dev
[02:23] <trudell> does anyone knows about this error:
[02:23] <trudell> patching file /home/trudell/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.14-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h
[02:23] <trudell> Hunk #1 FAILED at 655.
[02:23] <surgy> ok now i need libgmodule-1.2.so.0
[02:23] <surgy> trudell: what package has libgmodule-1.2.so.0 ?
[02:23] <loadus> chilli0: but be prepared for more errors
[02:25] <surgy> where can i get libglib1.2.deb for i386 ?
[02:25] <loadus> surgy: search the contents of packages here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:26] <surgy> loadus: all im finding is libglib2
[02:29] <trudell> in libglib1.2ldbl package
[02:30] <trudell> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libglib1.2ldbl
[02:32] <zerq> ok.. installed kubuntu-desktop.. set kdm as default login manager, reboot and get kdm.. log in and all i get is a background and a terminal with no window manager..
[02:32] <zerq> no menus on any mouse clicks.. what am i missing here?
[02:33] <loadus> zerq: plasma-desktop?
[02:34] <zerq> can't find package plasma-desktop
[02:34] <loadus> type it into the terminal
[02:35] <chilli0> loadus:  That worked fine.
[02:35] <chilli0> loadus:  install didnt..
[02:36] <chilli0> http://pastebin.com/d16d94c83 ..
[02:36] <surgy> hey guys thanks a triolliondy
[02:36] <surgy> it works now
[02:37] <surgy> and sorry if i was rude.... you guys work miracles.... THANKS!!!! and seeya l8rs
[02:37] <loadus> chilli0: this looks a bit serious: â€˜Plasmaâ€™
[02:37] <loadus> surgy: np
[02:37] <trudell> I need nvida patch or any solution for nvidia driver 96 on 2.6.31 linux kernel (Kubuntu Karmic Koala or other)
[02:38] <loadus> chilli0: that might be a codepage issue (utf-8 for compiling)
[02:38] <chilli0> trudell:  Have you got the driver of nvidia website?
[02:38] <trudell> alrigh surgy, i'm happy for yoou
[02:39] <trudell> yes chill, but with funcionally patch
[02:39] <trudell> th nv 96.43.14 dont works well in kubuntu kernel 2.6.31
[02:40] <chilli0> oh im not sure o-
[02:41] <zerq> got it.. apparently when you manually install kubuntu on ubuntu, kdm defaults to "no session" and you have to manually select KDE on the login menu
[02:42] <harolddong> why those sneaky little...
[02:46] <mlocker> Hi
[02:46] <mlocker> I want to help.
[02:47] <trudell> loadus, surgy ficou feliz
[02:48] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[02:48] <trudell> ubuntu have x-mame, i love mame
[02:50] <chilli0> What just happend?
[02:50] <poyntz> hi, i just installed kubuntu-desktop and the trash can now doesn't support drag/drop. please help!
[02:50] <chilli0> oh netsplit xD
[02:52] <poyntz> ok, basically. I still have some gnome programs installed (like nautilus). on cairo-dock it doesn't seem to matter what program I use to run trash, I still can't drag files into the dustbin
[02:53] <poyntz> (i've tried konqueror and nautilus)
[02:53] <jussi01> !netsplit | chilli0
[02:53] <trudell> iconmefisto, are you here?
[02:53] <jussi01> poyntz: what happens when you do?
[02:53] <poyntz> jussi01: nothing :/
[02:53]  * jussi01 can drag and drop...
[02:54] <poyntz> i drag the file over to trash and it shows that small icon that indiciates i'm moving a file into the directory, then when I let go of click nothing happens
[02:54] <trudell> its possible to run nvdriver with -l or -C?
[02:54] <poyntz> jussi01: i drag the file over to trash and it shows that small icon that indiciates i'm moving a file into the directory, then when I let go of click nothing happens
[02:55] <flootenkerp> Can anyone please help me install this usplash http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis%%20Usplash?content=111188 on my startup manager?
[02:55] <flootenkerp> I'm using ubuntu 9.04
[02:55] <poyntz> jussi01: bizarre. it seemed to occur following a reboot after removing gnome-panel
[02:55] <flootenkerp> Help would be appreciated
[02:56] <jussi01> flootenkerp: please dont double post
[02:56] <jussi01> poyntz: tis weird.
[02:56] <jussi01> where is this trash bin located?
[02:58] <poyntz> jussi01: ey even worse. if I open an instance of konqueror in trash:/ and an instance in Documents, then try to drag a file from one to the other nothing happens. This confirms that it's not a cairo-dock issue
[02:58] <poyntz> jussi01: konqueror trash:/ ?
[02:59] <poyntz> jussi01: it's about the most user-friendly activity that can occur on a desktop (drag/drop), so much more user friendly than hitting "delete"
[03:00] <jussi01> poyntz: Im sorry mate, I cant help you here, I dont know whats wrong tbh.
[03:00] <poyntz> jussi01: and I'm too scared to do that in case I can't remove files from the trash :P
[03:00] <trudell> flootnkerp
[03:00] <trudell> flootnkerp, wich distro is yours?
[03:00] <poyntz> jussi01: thanks anyhow
[03:00] <poyntz> !trash
[03:00] <poyntz> i'll try that...
[03:01] <poyntz> hahaha - apparently ~/.local/share/Trash doesn't exist...
[03:01] <poyntz> oh whoop
[03:01] <poyntz> whoops
[03:01] <poyntz> case sensitive
[03:01] <jussi01> hehe
[03:01] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[03:01] <jussi01> :D
[03:02] <trudell> flootnkerp, copy your usplash.so to /usr/lib/usplash/
[03:03] <flootenkerp> I did
[03:03] <flootenkerp> Then what?
[03:03] <poyntz> ok. is it just me? or does KDE always ask for confirmation every time I try to drag/drop something?
[03:04] <poyntz> --really dodgy unnecessary feature. that will be what's killing drag/drop for trash
[03:06] <jussi01> poyntz: I think you can change the behavior, cant remember where though, let me have a lookee...
[03:06] <poyntz> gosh.... sooo annoying. there's no forum reporting trash issues for kubuntu. as if I'm the only one with the problem???! all I did was install kubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <poyntz> jussi01: thanks :D
[03:06] <trudell> then link to /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[03:09] <jussi01> poyntz: dolphin, settings -> general -> ask for confirmation when ( ithink thats it...) Still looking for other places where it may be
[03:09] <poyntz> jussi01: i also don't understand why there's two file managers lol :P
[03:10] <jussi01> poyntz: dolphin is the file manager, konqui is the web browser
[03:10] <poyntz> jussi01: ah.
[03:10] <poyntz> jussi01: i'd been using konqueror as the file browser lol
[03:11] <poyntz> jussi01: also, that option you specified doesn't exist under my settings tab
[03:11] <jussi01> under general?
[03:11] <jussi01> poyntz: which version are you on?
[03:12] <poyntz> jussi01: KDE 4.3.2
[03:12] <jussi01> poyntz: karmic?
[03:12] <poyntz> jussi01: yeh
[03:13] <jussi01> poyntz: so what doesnt exist, the general category or?
[03:13] <poyntz> settings -> (no general)
[03:14] <poyntz> jussi01: actually. scrap that. it's in there
[03:14] <jussi01> :D
[03:14] <poyntz> jussi01: just not directly in the settings tab
[03:14] <poyntz> jussi01: it's in dolphin preferences :)
[03:14]  * jussi01 hugs poyntz
[03:14] <poyntz> lol
[03:15] <poyntz> jussi01: ok, opening up two instances of dolphin
[03:15] <jussi01> poyntz: Im not certain it will work, but I hope :D
[03:15] <poyntz> jussi01: yeh it didn't :/
[03:16] <poyntz> jussi01: and killing confirmations didn't help :/
[03:17] <poyntz> jussi01: well i can delete/restore which is a plus. just can't do it via drag/drop
[03:18] <jussi01> poyntz: I havent time right now, but if you are aroundd later and I find something...
[03:18] <poyntz> jussi01: thanks :D
[03:18] <jussi01> and please let me know if you find something also
[03:18] <poyntz> jussi01: def
[03:23] <drykill> ive been searching all night hopefully i may get some insight in here. Im trying to find other computers on my network . Im fairly new to all this I
[03:24] <drykill> n a unix like os
[03:25] <drykill> also trying to access through terminal
[03:26] <poyntz> jussi01: this is as close as i've got to finding others with the same issue - http://www.cairo-dock.org/bg_topic.php?t=2910. i'm starting to think it is somewhat cairo related... :/
[03:27] <iconmefisto> I don't get a confirmation dialog when sending files to trash. I always have that confirmation setting in dolphin turned off as jussi01 described
[03:30] <jussi01> iconmefisto: I think he means the little move or copy dialog
[03:32] <poyntz> jussi01: ok. i've worked out what the problem is. it's definitely not a cairo-dock issue. the problem is that trash:/ in kde doesn't map properly onto ~/.local/share/Trash/files. In other words kubuntu essentially has two trash cans (one that supports drag/drop "~/.local/share/Trash/files" and one that doesn't "trash:/"
[03:33] <jussi01> poyntz: ahh, please file a bug.
[03:33] <poyntz> i'll try after lunch, brb.
[03:40] <poyntz|a> jussi01: it actually really easy to fix. just point Trash to ~/.local/share/Trash/files. anyhow, i'll do the report now
[03:41] <jussi01> poyntz: it may be easy, but still, needs to be done :D
[03:41] <jussi01> and thanks for reporting it, doing that make a lot of difference
[03:43] <iconmefisto> hmm. trash:/ (in dolphin or konqueror) and ~/.local/share/Trash/files are the same folder. they are not 2 separate trash locations
[03:46] <iconmefisto> poyntz: is this an upgraded karmic or new install? is that how the trash problem arises?
[03:52] <awhatley> hey guys trying to follow some directions on installing proper drivers it says tar xzf <path> what do they mean for <path>
[03:52] <surgy> hello
[03:53] <surgy> can someone help me get my two game pads working? i plug them in and the os does absolutely nothing
[03:57] <iconmefisto> awhatley: <path> is the folder and file name. so if it's a file on your desktop, the path would be /home/your-username/Desktop/my-file
[03:59] <awhatley> so when i open up terminal and i do mkdir hybrid_w1 what would the path be
[03:59] <awhatley> if u dont mind
[03:59] <iconmefisto> it depends what folder you're in when you do that command
[04:00] <awhatley> it just says username@computername But i think i found the folder
[04:00] <iconmefisto> if you're in your home folder (which is the default folder unless you change to another folder) it would create /home/your-username/hybrid_w1
[04:01] <iconmefisto> so hybrid_w1 would be a folder in your home folder
[04:02] <awhatley> ok now installing the driver. it says tar xzf <path>/hybrid-portsrc.tar would Path be the folder where it is or where its going to
[04:03] <iconmefisto> where is hybrid-portsrc.tar  ? is it in your home folder?
[04:04] <awhatley> its on my desktop apprently
[04:06] <awhatley> so it would be tar xzf /home/username/desktop/hybrid-portsrc.tar
[04:06] <iconmefisto> so you could change to the desktop folder first (to keep things simple) with this:   cd Desktop
[04:06] <iconmefisto> case sensitive.  uppercase D
[04:06] <awhatley> but the file has to go into the hybrid folder
[04:06] <awhatley> should i move the file to the hybrid folder
[04:07] <iconmefisto> sure
[04:07] <awhatley> ok
[04:07] <iconmefisto> it should extract everything according to the folder structure in the tar file
[04:08] <drykill> leave
[04:08] <awhatley> ok so it would be tar xzf home/user/hybrid_w1/hybrid-portsrc.tar
[04:08] <iconmefisto> but it might be a bunch of files compressed without a folder structure, in which case you would have all those files in your desktop folder
[04:09] <iconmefisto> yes
[04:10] <awhatley> tar: home/awhatley/hybrid_w1/hybrid-portsrc.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:10] <awhatley> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[04:10] <awhatley> tar: Child returned status 2
[04:10] <awhatley> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[04:10] <iconmefisto> or just do this first to change to that folder:   cd hybrid_w1    and then:   tar xzf hybrid-portsrc.tar
[04:12] <iconmefisto> oh that should be -xzf
[04:13] <awhatley> same error
[04:14] <awhatley> all im trying to do is get the right drivers for my wireless card. apparently im using realtek drivers for a broadcom device
[04:14] <iconmefisto> no that's wrong, sorry
[04:16] <iconmefisto> try menu > system > hardware drivers
[04:16] <iconmefisto> or have you tried that already?
[04:16] <awhatley> I i did that and then it switches between realtek driver and bxm or something
[04:17] <iconmefisto> bcm?
[04:17] <awhatley> I cant remember what it said but I used ndiswrapper and dont know what I did
[04:18] <awhatley> it wont let me access my windows partition
[04:18] <awhatley> ok i got into it
[04:18] <iconmefisto> awhatley: try the text version of that hardware drivers tool: sudo jockey-text -l
[04:19] <iconmefisto> awhatley: that will list the drivers available for your hardware
[04:19] <awhatley> ok
[04:20] <awhatley> kmod:wl - Broadcom STA wireless driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[04:21] <iconmefisto> awhatley: I did this myself just yesterday. let me remember what I did for a minute
[04:21] <trudell> mefisto, is it possible to downgrade kernel of karmic to jaunty kernel without problems?
[04:21] <trudell> mefisto, is it possible to downgrade kernel of karmic to jaunty kernel without problems?
[04:21] <awhatley> no problem
[04:22] <iconmefisto> trudell: I don't think so
[04:22] <trudell> dont?
[04:22] <trudell> its bad
[04:23] <chuckf_> I'm having an issue with grub2. I just got a new laptop today with Win7. I installed Kubuntu and shrank the windows partition. Set up the Kubuntu side of things okay. Rebooted to configure the win7. After a couple of reboots there and some updates I now cannot boot. I see the bios post, the grub2 header then the screen goes white for a few seconds and reboots.
[04:23] <awhatley> its windows i tell ya
[04:24] <awhatley> I tried to dual boot vista and ubuntu and windows locked the hd
[04:25] <chuckf_> awhatley: I figured it was a windows thing, but would like to find a linux thing to fix it:)
[04:25] <awhatley> i got a fix
[04:25] <awhatley> just get rid of windows ::P
[04:25] <awhatley> best fix ever
[04:26] <awhatley> im tryin to convince my friends and family to switch over( although i kind of dont my customers to, then i wont be fixing computers)
[04:26] <chuckf_> unfortunatly I have two reasons to keep windows. work and spouse
[04:26] <awhatley> haha me 2
[04:26] <maco> chuckf_: neither have to be permanent *hides*
[04:26] <awhatley> thats why i bought myself a new computer and dual booted xp and linux
[04:26] <awhatley> haha
[04:27] <chuckf_> maco: keeping that option for a last choice
[04:28] <chuckf_> plus for advocacy reasons its nice to say 'see you can keep your windows 7 along side your ubuntu
[04:28] <awhatley> mefisto, any luck remembering yet?
[04:32] <iconmefisto> awhatley: try this: sudo modprobe wl
[04:32] <awhatley> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[04:33] <iconmefisto> then this to see if it's enabled and in use: lsmod | grep wl
[04:34] <awhatley> wl                   1272936  0
[04:34] <awhatley> lib80211                6432  1 wl
[04:34] <iconmefisto> ok seems that worked
[04:34] <awhatley> its weird im connected wirelessly but i cant seem to get wireless N
[04:34] <awhatley> when i do iwconfig it says 802.11g
[04:35] <iconmefisto> you can try the    sudo jockey-text -l    command to see if it says "in use" now
[04:35] <awhatley> still not in use
[04:37] <iconmefisto> I think I turned the interface off and on again and it all started working
[04:37] <iconmefisto> or maybe "disable wireless" with the knetworkmanager widget then re-enable wireless
[04:37] <awhatley> i dont know how... there is no switch
[04:38] <awhatley> im using rutiIt WLAN Manager
[04:39] <awhatley> would the wrong drivers cause me to not be able to connect to an smtp server
[04:40] <iconmefisto> awhatley: but you can get internet connection?
[04:40] <awhatley> im on it right now
[04:41] <awhatley> lol im just mad.. i paid for wireless N with this laptop and got a wireless N router and now its useless lol
[04:42] <iconmefisto> new router too?
[04:43] <awhatley> yea cuz my old one was linksys wrt54gc and it didnt have n so i went to dlink dir 615
[04:43] <awhatley> which is crap but i cant afford to buy another one right now
[04:44] <iconmefisto> maybe router config? I had a problem with uploads even though downloads were working fine, till I lowered the MTU in router config
[04:44] <awhatley> would that fix trying to open some websites? i try to post on linuxquestions.org and sometimes it tries to download .php files
[04:45] <iconmefisto> that was my first experience with wireless. so maybe I'm not the best person to ask about it
[04:45] <awhatley> lol
[04:45] <awhatley> but your the only one helping me
[04:45] <awhatley> it just pisses me off .. sometimes i cant connect to my smtp servers and i wanna throw my computer out the window
[04:46] <iconmefisto> try going to http://www.speedtest.net/ and run a test. I couldn't get it to do the upload test at all until I changed MTU
[04:47] <iconmefisto> awhatley: btw, my router is also dlink
[04:47] <awhatley> ive never had so many problems with a router before lol
[04:48] <awhatley> linksys was so easy to setup
[04:48] <awhatley> and dlink is a pain in my a@@
[04:49] <awhatley> what would u suggest for MTU for dsl internet
[04:50] <iconmefisto> I googled the upload problem and my router (DI 524) and someone was having similar problems, said that dsl users should change MTU from default 1500 to 1452, and it magically worked :)
[04:51] <awhatley_> ok so i changed my mtu
[04:52] <awhatley_> and now lets see what happens lol
[04:53] <awhatley_> hmmmm mefisto i think you might have got it
[04:53] <awhatley_> i was able to post np
[04:53] <awhatley_> but now if my tx rate is over 54MBPS doesnt that mean im connected to N
[04:54] <iconmefisto> this is the page that gave me the MTU hint: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=267991
[04:56] <iconmefisto> your router config should tell you connection details like that somewhere
[04:56] <awhatley_> well i know wireless g cant tx at 130 and when im downstairs i just checked in  my wlan config at my tx rate was 130
[05:00] <iconmefisto> I guess dlink routers are a learning opportunity
[05:00] <iconmefisto> :)
[05:12] <duryodhan> hi .. Kubuntu decided to install the PAE kernel during a fresh install .. which I hate .. is there any way I can make kubuntu use the normal kernel ?
[05:18] <trudell> what is PAE?
[05:19] <trudell> mefisto
[05:28] <poyntz> iconmefisto: 14:46 < iconmefisto> poyntz: is this an upgraded karmic or new install? is that how the trash problem arises?
[05:28] <poyntz> 14:46 < iconmefisto> poyntz: is this an upgraded karmic or new install? is that how the trash problem arises?
[05:28] <trudell> mepisto
[05:28] <poyntz> iconmefisto: nah, it's an upgraded karmic which i added kubuntu-desktop to
[05:28] <poyntz> *sorry about the double post
[05:29] <poyntz> most things work very nicely
[05:29] <poyntz> just not so much that
[05:48] <duryodhan> trudell : server kernel
[05:49] <duryodhan> I want to use the normal desktop kernel
[06:12] <trudell> PAE is server kernel? and MAE is what?
[06:13] <trudell> is SMP server kernel?
[06:20] <trudell> who?
[06:20] <trudell> me?
[06:20] <trudell> me?
[06:20] <trudell> me?
[06:20] <FloodBotK2> trudell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <trudell> i am connected, yet?
[07:46] <borophyll> for some reason, desktop sharing keeps launching every time I log into KDE.  How do i stop this from happening?
[07:46] <Tm_T> borophyll: do you close it when you logout / shutdown
[07:48] <borophyll> yes i close it down, and it keeps coming back
[07:49] <borophyll> i dont know if i accidently put it into startup somehow?
[07:49] <Tm_T> borophyll: interesting, does it have "start at login" in its settings ?
[07:49] <Tm_T> borophyll: that's what I'm thinking yes
[07:50] <borophyll> im new at this, how do i find the start at login settings?
[07:51] <Tm_T> borophyll: this desktop sharing app, is there that kind of setting in its settings
[07:51] <borophyll> no, i couldnt find any
[07:51] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:52] <borophyll> ive never used or have any intention to use desktop sharing, so god knows how it happened
[07:53] <Tm_T> open Konsole and do this: "ls -a ~/.config/autostart/"
[07:54] <borophyll> nothing in there
[07:54] <Tm_T> borophyll: nothing at all? only dots?
[07:54] <borophyll> yup
[07:54] <borophyll> i think its krfb (the program)
[07:55] <borophyll> its in the system tray if that helps
[07:55] <Tm_T> borophyll: then it's running (:
[07:56] <bradpitt> hi, i get error everytime i reboot the computer, since the error is right after bios i record the video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF_QCCaIBPk . thank you before
[07:56] <Tm_T> borophyll: you should close it from systray (too) to really close it
[07:56] <borophyll> ok, so maybe if I kill it properly, maybe it wont reappear?
[07:56] <Tm_T> borophyll: just rightclick on it, it should offer quit
[07:57] <borophyll> ok ill be right back, im going to log out and see if it comes back
[07:57] <Tm_T> borophyll: good luck (:
[07:58] <borophyll> nah, it still comes up
[07:59] <Tm_T> borophyll: see what is in ~/.kde/Autostart/ then
[07:59] <borophyll> nothing as well
[07:59] <Tm_T> hmmm
[08:00] <Tm_T> borophyll: ok, do "ps aux | grep -i krfb"
[08:00] <borophyll> only the grep process was listed, nothing else
[08:01] <Tm_T> hmm, so it's not running there I guess
[08:01] <Tm_T> weird, really weird
[08:01] <borophyll> yeah im stumped
[08:02] <borophyll> there is no other startup dirs?
[08:02] <Tm_T> well, systemwide then
[08:02] <Tm_T> borophyll: /etc/xdg/autostart/
[08:03] <borophyll> I get jockey-kde.desktop and update-notifier-kde.desktop
[08:04] <Tm_T> borophyll: neither of those matters in this, hmmm
[08:05] <Tm_T> borophyll: then there's /usr/share/autostart/
[08:06] <volodya> hi
[08:06] <borophyll> kabcdistlistupdater.desktop             krunner.desktop
[08:06] <borophyll> kblueplugd.desktop                      kwrited-autostart.desktop
[08:06] <borophyll> kde4-knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop  nepomukserver.desktop
[08:06] <borophyll> klipper.desktop                         plasma.desktop
[08:06] <borophyll> kmix_autostart.desktop                  plasma-desktop.desktop
[08:06] <FloodBotK2> borophyll: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <borophyll> konqy_preload.desktop                   printer-applet.desktop
[08:06] <volodya> it seems that in 9.10, kwin no longer raises application windows in the cases where they used to be raised before
[08:06] <volodya> e.g. emacs uses to pop up when I do 'emacsclient whatever' in the terminal, and now it does not
[08:07] <volodya> is this a known bug, or configuation change?
[08:07] <borophyll> krunner.desktop
[08:07] <borophyll> kwrited-autostart.desktop
[08:07] <borophyll> nepomukserver
[08:07] <borophyll> plasma
[08:07] <borophyll> plasma-desktop
[08:07] <borophyll> printer-applet
[08:07] <borophyll> restore_kmix_volumes
[08:08] <Tm_T> borophyll: please don't flood
[08:08] <borophyll> doesnt seem to be anything in there
[08:08] <borophyll> i didnt, i just pasted dir listing
[08:08] <Tm_T> borophyll: then I'm out of ideas
[08:08] <Tm_T> borophyll: that's flooding when there's more than 3 lines (:
[08:08] <borophyll> is there any way to paste stuff in without typing manually?
[08:09] <Tm_T> borophyll: select and paste
[08:09] <Tm_T> borophyll: and we recommend to use pastebin, like http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:09] <borophyll> thats what I did, but it floods!
[08:09] <Tm_T> borophyll: yes, use pastebin (:
[08:10] <borophyll> not sure what that is, but anyway thanks for you help
[08:10] <Tm_T> borophyll: see url I mentioned above
[08:10] <borophyll> ok
[08:10] <Tm_T> borophyll: you paste large texts into it, submit, and then paste the url here so we can see that large text without flooding in channel
[08:13] <Tm_T> neat technique indeed (:
[08:13] <Tm_T> borophyll: anyway, I'm out of ideas here
[08:16] <borophyll> thats ok
[08:21] <borophyll> Tm_T: I foud a workaround for my problem
[08:21] <Tm_T> yes?
[08:21] <borophyll> deleted the ~/.kde/share/config/krfbrc file
[08:21] <borophyll> and now its gone
[08:22] <Tm_T> borophyll: ah, so there was some "start at login" setting then, weird
[08:22] <borophyll> found a post on kubuntu forums that had same problem as myself
[08:23] <borophyll> and thats how they fixed it
[08:24] <borophyll> I tried to make it happen again by openign krfb, but now it never reappears so *shrug*
[08:24] <borophyll> anyway thanks for your help, cya
[08:31] <WilliamBuell> I am a beginner who just did a very simple brute force solution usind SED command to take an IRC log and strip out everything except actual conversation
[08:31] <WilliamBuell> i wanted to see if I could do it, and also, to learn more aboue SED command
[08:32] <Peace-> WilliamBuell: :) #sed
[08:32] <WilliamBuell> aha, will that give me more info on sed?
[08:34] <Peace-> WilliamBuell: i have used that channell to learn :)
[08:38] <mauri> where are stored the files description for the icon on the desktop?
[09:13] <humphree> W00 at successful install on my netbook!
[09:15] <Peace-> :)
[09:41] <emerald_> evening all
[09:49] <aftertaf> hello : i need help diagnosing a potential dns resolution issue. slowness with Bind on local network for local and net resolution
[10:05] <mauri> it seems to be a bug in splash screen "get new theme"
[10:07] <^V^> Hi, I'm having some issues with suspend on closing the laptop lid. Suspend works fine if triggered via menu option. acpi_listen does not output anything ...
[10:08] <^V^> Laptop is Dell Studio 1555
[10:08] <^V^> The state in /proc/acpi/button/LID01/ is correctly updated
[10:12] <^V^> Is there anything else I can try to narrow down the issue?
[10:13] <^V^> Oh yeah, this is on Karmic BTW
[10:31] <varexnet32> hello
[10:31] <varexnet32> is someone in here
[10:37] <yogesh> hi
[10:37] <WilliamBuell> hello
[10:37] <yogesh> whats going on
[10:38] <WilliamBuell> not much it is 5:30am here in new york city
[10:39] <yogesh> i m getting a prob: a video show that it will play only on WIN Med Player
[10:40] <yogesh> what to do
[10:43] <^V^> yogesh: which player are you using?
[10:43] <yogesh> hi
[10:45] <yogesh> Totem Movie Player 2.22.1
[10:45] <yogesh> VLC med pl
[10:46] <^V^> It doesn't play at all or do you get at least audio/video?
[10:46] <BlouBlou> wich programm does kubuntu uses for update system?
[10:47] <BlouBlou> I have ubuntu, but I'll change to kubuntu and I don't know
[10:47] <^V^> yogesh: give MPlayer a go
[10:48] <^V^> If it doesn't work, try following the guide here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
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[10:48] <FloodBotK1> Rondell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:48] <Rondell> ttns8QyyGAUdsDTiqykIgiPiAKT0n2pBMoQkdwBYmo9b7redHXxPCPKHsoBUKth9
[10:50] <chimp-champ> Hi, I have set my menu back to the system setting but now the wine menu is removed as well.
[10:50] <chimp-champ> So, is there any menu-config file?
[10:50] <Rondell> chimp-champ Claw6 Rondell harolddong awidegreen gigasoft Quintasan chaitu BlouBlou yogesh MadAGu simion314 gorgonzola
[10:50] <Rondell> kiraitachi PolitikerNEU luukje schmidtm cdpuk ^V^ taikun bambule Cybertinus fale_ aftertaf TheKro protocow pavelludiq
[10:50] <Rondell> njathan zippy odysseas deprecated hoergen Salze_ login_ jo123_ piko stoffel demytry tavi rork volodya zafko jhunold
[10:50] <Rondell> Weasel[DK] bazhang eragon63 marcel sgrover wrgb hrna Tecmi Nakkel Tm_T tl nacer JakeSays kadoban_ nixternal schestowitz
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[10:50] <FloodBotK1> Rondell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[10:51] <PolitikerNEU> :-(
[10:51] <bazhang> !ops | Rondell
[10:52] <Quintasan> da heck?
[10:52] <kiraitachi> whats up?
[10:52] <fale_> what's up?
[10:53] <kiraitachi> it seems u can only use this channel in emergencies
[10:53] <Quintasan> nah, that Rondell was just spamming :.
[10:53] <Quintasan> :/
[10:53] <kiraitachi> not sure thoug...im a noob at this irc shit....
[10:53] <kiraitachi> XD
[10:53] <kiraitachi> ok...
[10:53] <Quintasan> gah, this is support channel, chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:53] <chimp-champ> Is there any menu-config backup file?
[10:54] <kiraitachi> backup file??? i think in kubuntu u have to install it first...
[10:54] <kiraitachi> in linux mint comes already but in kubuntu u got to get one....try up looking i packages?
[10:55] <chimp-champ> I mean of there is any backup of my KMenu
[10:55] <kiraitachi> well....anyone knows how the fuck to add an irc to quassel?
[10:55] <chimp-champ> e.g. from my last session
[10:55] <Tm_T> kiraitachi: please no cursing
[10:55] <kiraitachi> sorry...XD
[10:55] <Tm_T> chimp-champ: no I don't think there's any automatic backups
[10:56] <kiraitachi> but what u want to do?
[10:56] <Tm_T> kiraitachi: what you mean by "add an irc to quassel" ?
[10:56] <Tm_T> kiraitachi: you want to join other channels?
[10:56] <chimp-champ> Tm_T: I mean just of the entrys in my menu
[10:56] <Tm_T> chimp-champ: hmm, what you mean?
[10:56] <kiraitachi> i mean like 4 example there is this link http://www.hackforums.net/index.php
[10:56] <kiraitachi> and in that page u can see irc
[10:57] <kiraitachi> u would like to add that irc to the quassel chat
[10:57] <kiraitachi> how i do that?
[10:57] <kiraitachi> i know that i can go to file then networks and add but what should i writte on the add line?
[10:57] <chimp-champ> Tm_T: I mean if there is an kde backup of my menu entrys
[10:58] <Tm_T> kiraitachi: if you are joining channel, just add channel name, if irc network, then server address you want to add
[10:58] <kiraitachi> chimp-champ u can try to clik with the mouse the right button and choose menu editor to make changes...thats all i know
[11:00] <chimp-champ> eg if my menu had 3 entrys (firefox, dolphin, system settings) but i'd remove them - so i need a backup of my menu entrys
[11:01] <kiraitachi> Tm_T and how would u do it if u want to add the irc of taht page?
[11:02] <kiraitachi> cause i really dont know if its a server what im adding or a channel...lol
[11:02] <jedda> noob looking to know is python better than perl??
[11:02] <jedda> thinking perl seems like the better of the 2??
[11:03] <kiraitachi> got no idea...
[11:03] <kiraitachi> XD
[11:03] <jedda> tty
[11:09] <noaXess> good morning all
[11:10] <noaXess> i have trouble with my sound...
[11:10] <noaXess> if i try the test sound in system settings /multimedia it starts but i hear the output just after 2-3 secs later.. so the begining of the sound i can't hear it
[11:16] <noaXess> !pulseaudio
[11:16] <noaXess> shoud the pulseaudio server be installed?
[11:17] <noaXess> in multimedia i see a pulseaudio output device, but no pulseaudio server is installed.. ?!
[11:20] <Mamarok> noanot if you use KDE only
[11:20] <Mamarok> oops, joust miised him :(
[11:24] <gigasoft> how to install kde 4.3 via terminal ?
[11:30] <tsimpson> gigasoft: see the link in the topic
[11:32] <gigasoft> what link
[11:34] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.3    <--- gigasoft
[11:34] <bazhang> KDE 4.3.3 for Karmic in the backports:   gigasoft
[11:35] <kiraitachi> hi plz someone help me on how to know what port is one irc server i want to add!!!
[11:35] <kiraitachi> plz!
[11:35] <kiraitachi> XE
[11:35] <gigasoft> thanks :)
[11:35] <kiraitachi> anyone plz help me..its really easy...
[11:36] <kiraitachi> but i cant do it..dammit..
[11:36] <rork> kiraitachi: search the web for the server's website, connection info should be on the page
[11:36] <kiraitachi> i found the link
[11:36] <kiraitachi> for the server not the port connection
[11:36] <rork> it's probably the default port then
[11:37] <kiraitachi> no i already tryed...
[11:37] <kiraitachi> its not 6667
[11:37] <bazhang> gigasoft, please keep it in channel; did you read the actual link?
[11:37] <kiraitachi> can u check it out and thell me plz how u did it?
[11:37] <gigasoft> i reading
[11:38] <rork> kiraitachi: which irc server do you want to add?
[11:38] <kiraitachi> rork: this is the link  at the top appears irc http://www.hackforums.net/
[11:38] <bazhang> kiraitachi, please take this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:39] <kiraitachi> y?  bazhang? i cant ask it here? ik its offtopic but is the chat over here only is special cases?
[11:40] <bazhang> kiraitachi, is this related to kubuntu support? try also in #freenode
[11:41] <kiraitachi> well this is related to quassel adding servers without know were is the port or how to find it so idk where i should put it cause after all quassel comes with kubuntu so should be in support?
[11:42] <bazhang> gigasoft, no PM please
[11:42] <gigasoft> ok
[11:42] <gigasoft> is there ...
[11:45] <tsimpson> kiraitachi: it's not quassel that you want support with, it's that irc server
[11:45] <tsimpson> kiraitachi: and port 6667 seems to work fine
[11:49] <loadus> I'm having a bit of problems with my display font DPI value. I've set it to 96, but some programs ignore it, like fontforge or Google Earth. Any locations for that value that I should look for?
[11:49] <Tm_T> loadus: where you have set the dpi?
[11:50] <loadus> System Settings > Appearance > Fonts
[11:51] <loadus> the fontsize in fontforge is unreadable, about two pixels in height
[11:51] <Tm_T> loadus: it's likely that not all apps follow that setting, you have to find a way to set dpi for X entirely
[11:51] <loadus> same in Google Earth, but the font in the 3D window is ok
[11:51] <loadus> aye, can't find a location where to look for that value - setting it in xorg.conf doesn't work : /
[11:52] <loadus> well, I'll keep searching, thx anyways ^^
[11:54] <Tm_T> loadus: ye, unfortunately there's plenty of applications that like to count dpi itself and/or hardcode it and ignore all settings entirely
[11:54] <loadus> I was a bit afraid of that ..
[11:55] <Tm_T> loadus: for example GNOME is known to ignore detected DPI entirely (I think it still does)
[11:57] <loadus> one way for me to circle around it is to use Virtualbox with kubuntu and use those programs there, but it's a bit slow. :D
[11:57] <Tm_T> loadus: I recommend to ask in those applications help forums and channels
[11:58] <Tm_T> they hopefully know how to work out the issue
[12:02] <wernerl> Hello people :)
[12:02] <wernerl> anybody alive here? I need some help..
[12:03] <denggek> jancok
[12:03] <wernerl> I'm trying to make a copy of my data partition. I mounted a shared folder on my laptop through samba. After I copy all data he only creates the folders on my laptop.. :S No files are copied
[12:04] <bazhang> wernerl, using which app
[12:04] <wernerl> Dolphin. Doing a copy paste. In dolphin I clicked on Network -> samba shares -> workgroup -> wernel-laptop and then I pasted all data
[12:06] <wernerl> He created the folders, and then I got this error: The file or folder smb://WernerL@wernerl-laptop/tmp-backup/Music/Childen Of Bodom/Are You Dead Yet %3F does not exist.
[12:07] <wernerl> my laptop is running vista btw. My pc is kubuntu9.10
[12:12] <chilli0> Hi , does anyone know of a program that will auto sort my music?
[12:12] <chilli0> I have 8-9 gigs of songs that are all unsorted , and many duplicates.
[12:13] <chilli0> Is there any programs that will sort them into artist or what ever?
[12:18] <loadus> chilli0: Amarok?
[12:18] <ubuntu> hi
[12:19] <ubuntu> I have a problem with UUID after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10
[12:19] <ubuntu> help me please!
[12:19] <chilli0> loadus:  I can't understand amarok , but does that sort the files?
[12:19] <chilli0> ubuntu , try #ubuntu
[12:19] <bazhang> ubuntu, what problem please clarify
[12:19] <chilli0> bazhang:  Make sure hes using kubuntu
[12:20] <loadus> chilli0, it creates a complete list of all tracks in the specified media folders, sorted by artist/album/track/filename etc
[12:20] <bazhang> !blkid | ubuntu
[12:20] <ubuntu> problem is about initramfs
[12:20] <chilli0> loadus: O= sounds good. So how can i do that?
[12:20] <ubuntu> UUID in fstab is the same of grub
[12:21] <loadus> chilli0, fire up Amarok, go to Settings > Collection > and select the folders, where you have the tracks
[12:21] <ubuntu> I have already seen blkid but I don't know how to solve
[12:22] <loadus> chilli0: and let Amarok read the whole library - it might take a while, reading from ID tags is a bit tedious
[12:22] <ubuntu> I have modify grub at boot with "e" and I have substituted UUID with /dev/sdb6 (that is my root, not my /boot)
[12:22] <ubuntu> but nothing
[12:23] <chilli0> loadus:  So it will make a whole new directory?
[12:24] <ubuntu> now I have mounted in live my distro and I do upgrade ...but I have an error... (can I past it here?)
[12:24] <loadus> chilli0: Amarok won't create any directory, it only creates a library list, like WinAmp or similar
[12:24] <bazhang> ubuntu, paste.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <chilli0> loadus:  So it wont sort my files?
[12:24]  * chilli0 doesnt want to use amarok
[12:24] <loadus> chilli0: Physically, no.
[12:24] <chilli0> ah
[12:25] <chilli0> sad face
[12:25] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325310/
[12:28] <ubuntu> nobody knows?
[12:28] <bazhang> ubuntu, what are you trying to accomplish? and are you root? please paste.ubuntu.com the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <chilli0> loadus:  lols
[12:29] <chilli0> There is a sort files in there
[12:29] <chilli0> Thanks for kinda showing me xD
[12:29] <loadus> chilli0: hehe, np
[12:30] <ubuntu> this is my source.list http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325314/
[12:31] <bazhang> ubuntu, did you enable the root account?
[12:33] <ubuntu> I have mounted my distro in live in this way http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325315/
[12:37] <ubuntu> bazhang what do you think about?
[12:37] <chilli0> loadus:  Not quite haha , its weird and not working.
[12:38] <loadus> chilli0: I'm pretty sure there is a tag library software out there, that re-organizes files physically .. never seen one though
[12:38] <bazhang> ubuntu, you get busybox prompt when trying to boot and have now chrooted into via live cd to try and repair permissions and or mount disks? is that about right?
[12:39] <chilli0> loadus:  I might have to make one.
[12:39] <loadus> chilli0, always sorted my mp3's by hand when saving
[12:40] <chilli0> yeh , I get albums from mates , usbs and external hard drives
[12:40] <chilli0> all unsorted xD
[12:40] <Mamarok> loadus: have a look at kid3
[12:41] <ubuntu_> bazhang what you have said  is right
[12:43] <ubuntu> yes
[12:45] <comance67> !help
[12:47] <werner_> hello
[12:48] <comance67> \list
[12:48] <ubuntu_> error after boot is similar to http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325321/
[12:58] <denggek> server
[13:00] <andy> hi everyone
[13:00] <andy> me new ubuntu user
[13:04] <charlie-jayne> is anyone in here a Ktorrent guru?
[13:04] <charlie-jayne> I need help setting up rss feeds
[13:05] <Claw6> hello im running compiz an any way some programms (kmail and dolphin) have no decoration
[13:05] <Claw6> im using kwin not emerald
[13:05] <Guest94627> how to have desktop cube?
[13:05] <Guest94627> i enabled it
[13:05] <Guest94627> but its not working
[13:06] <charlie-jayne> Guest94627: make sure you have 4 desktop spaces
[13:07] <Guest94627> my wobbly windows dont work either
[13:07] <Guest94627> is it because im using ubuntu in virtual machine
[13:08] <charlie-jayne> Guest94627: it probably is
[13:08] <Guest94627> o man
[13:10] <InforMed> Hi! I'm unable to suspend Kubuntu Karmic after install pulseaudio! Can someone help-me?
[13:29] <reinaldo> I used to transfer file from my cell phone to my computer through bluetooth using kbluetooth. But after upgrading to Karmic koala it isn't working. Has someone some clue?
[13:32] <chilli0> Hi
[13:32] <chilli0> i just somehow removed abut 10 gig of music
[13:32] <chilli0> with amrok , i was trying to sort the files and i dont ahve back up
[13:32] <chilli0> And there not in my recycling bin
[13:32] <chilli0> anyway i can restore my computer back 1h?
[13:40] <loadus> chilli0: how exactly did you remove the files?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:54] <chilli0> loadus:  No clue..
[13:54] <chilli0> They just were there , they they wernd
[13:54] <chilli0> wernt
[13:54] <loadus> chilli0: Achievement Unlocked: Bork your audiolibrary
[13:55] <chilli0> :P
[13:55] <loadus> have you searched
[13:55] <loadus> if the files are just moved
[14:00] <wernerl> Nobody knows an answer to my question? :( I asked here a few hours ago and on the forums no-one answers either.. :(
[14:01] <chilli0> yeh there gone loadus
[14:01] <loadus> chilli0: damn
[14:02] <loadus> chilli0: google for a file restore software
[14:02] <loadus> chilli0: the files are still there somewhere, unless the system did a super-secure-absolute-wipe-kill-all -delete
[14:03] <ubuntu_> Hi! can anybody help me to solve initramfs problem
[14:03] <ubuntu_> what can I do?
[14:05] <ubuntu_> my problem is after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 at boot I have:  - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
[14:05] <ubuntu_>   - Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)
[14:05] <ubuntu_>   - Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?)
[14:05] <ubuntu_>  - Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)
[14:05] <ubuntu_> ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/59e408d8-acf8-41ac-8b4a-fce7c8a4e039 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[14:05] <ubuntu_> BusyBox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu7) built-in shell (ashj)
[14:05] <ubuntu_> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
[14:05] <ubuntu_> (initramfs)_
[14:06] <chilli0> loadus:  Im doing another seach for one file that i remeber the name of
[14:06] <Azzmodan> How do i disable the screensaver in kubutu? I already disabled the powersaving setting under system settings -> desktop -> powre control
[14:06] <chilli0> through the whole file system
[14:06] <trudell> hi chill
[14:06] <chilli0> brb
[14:06] <trudell> hi loadus
[14:06] <loadus> hi trudell
[14:07] <trudell> surgy ficou feliz hein!
[14:08] <apo> good day
[14:08] <apo> i've got a  problem with my x-server starting up
[14:08] <trudell> many older libraries can be used that way
[14:08] <apo> am i right here for help? :)
[14:08] <trudell> apo, have do you tried t fix x-server?
[14:09] <apo> it's a quite strange problem.. x seems to try to start 2 times at boot
[14:09] <apo> first time it crashes with the msg that no grpahics etc could be configured
[14:09] <apo> i have to press esc a few times to quit all msgs
[14:09] <apo> then it restarts again, successfully
[14:09] <apo> nvidia driver
[14:10] <trudell> loadus, the kubuntu developers must to do package to solve theses problems, including older libraries as legacy
[14:10] <trudell> oh
[14:10] <apo> i already tried to use "nv" drivers
[14:10] <apo> nothing changed
[14:10] <loadus> trudell: well, you have to speak to the developers, or start a thread about it in the kubuntuforums, if you feel that way
[14:10] <trudell> the problem is th 3g graphic drivers from ubuntu
[14:10] <trudell> you will need to uninstall it
[14:11] <BluesKaj> apo, which grfx card ?
[14:11] <trudell> yeah, have any development channel that i can go in irc?
[14:11] <apo> nvidia 8400m
[14:11] <trudell> kubuntu development
[14:12] <trudell> reboot
[14:12] <trudell> then choose safe mode in grub
[14:12] <trudell> then try fo fix X server
[14:13] <apo> this option "fix x" disappeared some time ago i think
[14:13] <apo> perhaps its back
[14:13] <trudell> "TRY TO FIX HTE X SERVER"
[14:13] <apo> what would be thecommand to run from console?
[14:13] <trudell> desapeared?
[14:13] <apo> yeah, its gone ;)
[14:13] <apo> only "root console" "netroot" etc
[14:13] <apo> resume..
[14:13] <BluesKaj> trudell, try #ubuntu-devel
[14:13] <trudell> loadus, do you had heard about it?
[14:14] <kaddi> hi, I'm trying to install the flash-beta from adobe and it asks me to enter the installation path of mozilla.. but when I enter /usr/lib/mozilla it replies "WARNING: PLease enter a valid installation path.". Where is mozilla installed if not in /usr/lib/mozilla?
[14:14] <trudell> thx blueskaj
[14:14] <BluesKaj> apo ,  fix X server , how are you trying to ?
[14:14] <trudell> mplayer need some modification for brazillian peoples too
[14:15] <trudell> i recompiled the mplayer for me
[14:16] <apo> first i tried to "repair" xorg conf manually. but that is not the problem i think, cause x starts.. but it seems to be launched with wrong configs some time at startup.
[14:16] <ubuntu_> here there are my boot information http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325384/ please help me! I don't know how to solve :(
[14:16] <apo> after that "fail start" it starts without any problems with my xorg.conf
[14:16] <kaddi> I checked and the folder /usr/lib/mozilla exists and contains the plugin folder in wich flash currently is installed
[14:16] <trudell> well. go to envy-ng and uninstall nv drivers
[14:16] <apo> even the nvidia driver is not loaded at first try
[14:17] <apo> ok
[14:17] <trudell> or go to synaptic and uninstall all nvdrivers
[14:17] <apo> i did
[14:17] <apo> shall i restart with vesa?
[14:17] <Azzmodan> How do i disable the screensaver in kubutu? I already disabled the powersaving setting under system settings -> desktop -> powre control but its still blanking out after some time
[14:18] <BluesKaj> apo, in order to install the proper nvidia driver you must remove the the existing one first , then stop X and install the nvidia-glx-185 ..read this http://pastebin.ca/1682309
[14:18] <trudell> no
[14:19] <trudell> [left the driver of xorg
[14:19] <trudell> nv-xorg
[14:19] <trudell> uninstalll all nvidia drivers non-free
[14:20] <MelisU> Hello. Dolphin is not refreshing directories. I have to press F5 everytime something changes. Anybody know this problem?
[14:21] <apo> i uninstalled everfy non-free now
[14:22] <apo> shall i coninuewith your pasted steps?
[14:22] <gms> hey, where is the right place to look if suspend on lid does not work in 9.10 - acpid, udev, devkit or hald?!?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> apo, yes
[14:23] <gms> i mean 'suspend to ram on lid closed'
[14:23] <apo> ok, bbl. thanks
[14:24] <trudell> blueskaj, the developers are'nt listening
[14:25] <trudell> they dont care
[14:25] <BluesKaj> trudell, they may not be a support channel
[14:26] <sayaches> hi all
[14:27] <trudell> well, at least heard
[14:27] <BluesKaj> yeah trudell , the channel intro message says they aren't a support chat ..sorry :(
[14:29] <ubuntu_> help meeeeeeeeee :'(
[14:29] <BluesKaj> !ask | ubuntu_
[14:30] <ubuntu_> I am desperate
[14:30] <ubuntu_> how to solve initramfs problem after upgrading
[14:30] <Peace-> ?
[14:30] <Peace-> kernel panic?
[14:30] <ubuntu_> from 9.04 to 9.10
[14:30] <ubuntu_> no
[14:30] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325388/
[14:30] <ubuntu_> this!
[14:31] <Peace-> ubuntu_: mmm upgrading form 9.04 to 9.10 has fucked a lots of person
[14:31] <ubuntu_> this are my boot info http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325384/
[14:31] <ubuntu_> I know it! damned!
[14:32] <tsimpson> !language | Peace-
[14:32] <Peace-> tsimpson: omg....
[14:32] <ubuntu_> peace help me!
[14:32] <trudell> wha tproblem ubuntu
[14:32] <ubuntu_> after boot,  UUID doesn't exist
[14:33] <ubuntu_> this is what I see http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325388/
[14:33] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: do you have a live CD?
[14:33] <ubuntu_> yes
[14:33] <ubuntu_> now I am on it
[14:33] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: ok, what's in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ now?
[14:34] <sayaches> it may be a stupid question but, does anyone know a french channel for trouble on kunbuntu ? (y'a pas quelqu'un qui connais un chan français pour les soucis sous kubuntu ?)
[14:34] <Azzmodan> #kubtunu-fr ?
[14:34] <Peace-> !fr | sayaches
[14:34] <sayaches> thx ^^"
[14:34] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[14:34] <ubuntu_> 0233194a-df26-4381-9513-f8610050ac3b  0e34ab9b-9773-4bad-b303-028577402d95  141404777A191155  62927CA3927C7CFB  88ff1bac-859a-4557-a002-55d581f5cd8e  8be3940b-86c1-4d98-8ce3-e0f4fbd3658e  e755802a-0451-4b4b-a630-92a018b51afa
[14:35] <apo-lap> re, nothing changed but i saw ss. i had a forced disk check at 1. startup. due to the  delayed start x started perfectly at first try
[14:35] <apo-lap> i really think that x is started too early perhaps due to the new upstart?
[14:35] <apo-lap> i used every alpha since jaunty.. it's a many times upgrade system..
[14:36] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: ok, so the UUID of the disk/partition has changed somehow. you need to mount the root of the installed system and edit the /etc/fstab from there
[14:36] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: if you know the device name, you can get the UUID from "sudo blkid"
[14:37] <apo-lap> x won't load the specified graphicsdriver at first try. so i think it does not use my xorg.conf or the nvidia drivers are not loaded at all so early in startupprogress
[14:37] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, here there are all my boot info http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325384/
[14:38] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: so /dev/sdb6 is your root partition?
[14:38] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, root in grub and root in fstab have the same UUID
[14:38] <ubuntu_> yes
[14:38] <ubuntu_> while my /boot in sdb5
[14:39] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: you need to mount /dev/sdb6 and edit the fstab there, make sure all the UUIDs match what blkid gives
[14:39] <BluesKaj> apo-lap, you have to edit xorg.conf or delete it , then drop to a TTY (ctrl+alt+f1) run, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[14:39] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, now I will see you my root fstab
[14:39] <BluesKaj> apo-lap, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to your desktop
[14:39] <apo-lap> i already did. and x does work.. but not "so early" in startup progress. i'm right here chatting with you per konverstaion ;)
[14:40] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: can you also pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" too
[14:40] <apo-lap> but i'll try again
[14:40] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325401/
[14:41] <apo-lap> ok, i rm and configured it again
[14:41] <BluesKaj> apo-lap, reboot
[14:42] <apo-lap> i'll give it a try, brb
[14:43] <D-coy> joesu...
[14:45] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: and you have "root=UUID=8be3940b-86c1-4d98-8ce3-e0f4fbd3658e" in grubs menu.lst?
[14:45] <ubuntu_> yes...now I'll show you it
[14:46] <chilli0> Back
[14:46] <apo> unfortunately nochting changed
[14:47] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325403/
[14:47] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, I have tried even root=/dev/sdb6 but nothing
[14:48] <trudell> hi chill
[14:48] <trudell> its chill or chilli?
[14:48] <apo> where is x or kdm started in kamic?
[14:48] <trudell> chilli dish?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> apo then it's not your drivers or your xorg.conf , there's something your boot process that's causing it
[14:48] <chilli0> trudell:  its chillli0
[14:49] <chilli0> My real name isn't thoe.
[14:49] <trudell> apo --> service kdm start
[14:49] <apo> yep, i think so too
[14:50] <BluesKaj> apo , you didn't start kdm ?
[14:50] <trudell> spell to me
[14:50] <BluesKaj> apo, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[14:51] <apo> ? i just turn on my notebook. after some time (shot time after the blue progressbar of usplash disappears) x *tries* to start and tells me a few things
[14:51] <apo> i cancel all msgs
[14:51] <apo> i'm thrown back to the starting log
[14:51] <apo> and about 5 secs later x starts automatically
[14:51] <apo> and it works
[14:51] <apo> i just have to kill these error msgs in time
[14:51] <trudell> try to reinstall kdm
[14:51] <trudell> are you using kubuntu?
[14:51] <apo> otherwise x will not start without me starting kdm or strtx
[14:52] <apo> yes
[14:52] <trudell> well
[14:52] <wrgb> does anyone know of a simple, easy to use, preferably flat-file database program that works with KDE?
[14:52] <trudell> reinstall kubuntu-base from repository
[14:52] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, nothing? It is a strange problem, is it true?
[14:52] <trudell> your problem was a nvidia driver configuration
[14:53] <trudell> if you ever installed by nvidia.com driver
[14:53] <apo> yes
[14:53] <apo> few monhs ago
[14:53] <trudell> uninstall it completly
[14:53] <apo> i think idid..
[14:53] <apo> it worked for half a year
[14:54] <trudell> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-numberofverion.run --unintall
[14:54] <apo> ok
[14:54] <apo> can i download some new driver just to use uninstall?
[14:55] <trudell> not
[14:55] <BluesKaj> trudell, he already installed the right version for his card
[14:55] <apo> or do i have to use the correct version?
[14:55] <trudell> only what you had used
[14:55] <apo> i dont know which it was..
[14:55] <trudell> hummm
[14:56] <apo> oh wait
[14:56] <trudell> its a problem
[14:56] <apo> there is an old file here..
[14:56] <apo> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[14:56] <trudell> use one near version
[14:56] <trudell> yes
[14:56] <apo> ok, i switch of kdm and use that uninstall
[14:56] <trudell> use this file to uninstll
[14:56] <apo> what todo next?
[14:56] <apo> *off
[14:57] <BluesKaj> apo in order to run the correct driver you need to uninstall any previous versions , since they were the default and will ignore any others installed afterwards
[14:57] <trudell> ctrl+alt+f1 then sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run --uninstall
[14:57] <apo> they are all uninstalled per synaptic
[14:57] <apo> im runnign only 185
[14:58] <trudell> you will need unintall by archive NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run too
[14:58] <apo> shall i uninstall 185 now too?
[14:58] <trudell> uninstall alll
[14:58] <apo> ok
[14:58] <trudell> all of these have bugs in kubuntu
[14:58] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: I can't see where it's picking up that UUID from
[14:59] <trudell> kubuntu kernels are a grabbag
[14:59] <apo> pf.. which one shall i use?^^
[14:59] <trudell> kubuntu kernel sucks
[14:59] <trudell> try to use a kernel from debian repositories
[14:59] <Tm_T> trudell: stop
[14:59] <BluesKaj> trudell, not true the glx-185 is bug free
[14:59] <trudell> or change your distro do fedora os slackware
[15:00] <Tm_T> trudell: stop now
[15:00] <apo> ..
[15:00] <trudell> nvidia and ati cards runs in others distribution
[15:00] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, I don't know...even with root=/dev/sdb6 doesn't work
[15:00] <trudell> and have several bugs in kubuntu since hardy
[15:00] <Tm_T> trudell: and works in *buntu too
[15:00] <BluesKaj> trudell, stop trolling!
[15:00] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, what can I do?
[15:00] <trudell> not trolling
[15:01] <trudell> see the lauchpad
[15:01] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- he's been here trolling since yesterday
[15:01] <trudell> since hardy
[15:01] <Tm_T> trudell: this is also totally wrong place for this
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !ops | trudell
[15:01] <trudell> its a long time, dont you think?
[15:01] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: I'm here
[15:01] <Tm_T> trudell: last time, stop
[15:02] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: try mounting the root somewhere and mount /boot in there, then chroot in and run "update-initramfs", maybe reinstall grub? other than that I really don't know how to help.
[15:02] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: have you tried the forums?
[15:02] <tsimpson> !forums
[15:02] <trudell> what matter
[15:02] <BluesKaj> kick thre SOB , Tm_T , he's deliberately giving bad advice
[15:02] <trudell> im trying yto help apo
[15:02] <maco> trudell: there are drivers packaged for *buntu. please stop telling users to do the wrong theing
[15:02] <trudell> apo learn it
[15:02] <maco> *thing
[15:03] <trudell> kubuntu and 3D graphic cards never runs together
[15:03] <wrgb> does anyone know of a simple, easy to use, preferably flat-file database program that works with KDE?
[15:03] <apo> it worked liek a charm for years now
[15:03] <apo> thanks to all the ohters for your support
[15:03] <maco> well that one'd be a lie...3D works fine :P
[15:03] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:03] <apo> it even NOW works fine
[15:04] <apo> it is just x starting too ealry
[15:04] <maco> BluesKaj: there were already like 3 ops sitting right here when you called that
[15:04] <apo> due to what ever
[15:04] <Tm_T> wrgb: hmm, for example sqlite or mysqle ?
[15:04] <maco> apo: X starts earlier in karmic to speed up boot. are you saying this causes issues on your hardware?
[15:04] <Dragnslcr> wrgb- do you mean a GUI program to a specific database, or an entire database system?
[15:04] <apo> yes
[15:04] <joel>  sdf
[15:04] <apo> it seems to not use the right settings at *first* start
[15:04] <ubuntu_> tsimpson, to reinstall grub I do update-grub, is it true?
[15:05] <apo> i cancel all error msgs, wait 5 secs, and x starts all over fine :)
[15:05] <tsimpson> ubuntu_: there is a guide on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:05] <apo> i'm just pressing esc about 3 times
[15:06] <apo> the error msgs quit and i'm thron back to startup log
[15:06] <apo> but i do have to hit esc's in time
[15:06] <apo> otherwise x won't start on its own
[15:06] <apo> i then have to login to tty and startx/kdm manually
[15:06] <apo> that works fine evry time
[15:06] <maco> apo: can you file a bug "ubuntu-bug xorg"?
[15:07] <ubuntu_> tsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/325417/ all is it ok?
[15:07] <maco> (i hope xorg is the right thing to put in there...)
[15:07] <BluesKaj> apo,, well at least you can boot into kubuntu.. is glxgears working ok?  , and , glxinfo | grep direct ?
[15:07] <ubuntu_> tsimpson: I have tried all forums help, but nothing
[15:08] <apo> right now i have unisnatlled everything grpahic related due to your advise ;)
[15:08] <tsimpson> the outpul looks good
[15:08] <apo> but yes, i'm able to play 3d games on native or wine.
[15:09] <apo> i'll try to uninstall a graphic driver i used few months ago correctly
[15:09] <apo> i'll be bakc in a few minutes
[15:09] <BluesKaj> apo, so you installed nvidia-glx-185
[15:09] <apo> if it does not work i will report  in again
[15:09] <apo> yes
[15:09] <apo> per envy-qt
[15:10] <BluesKaj> !envy | apo
[15:10] <ubuntu_> tsimpson: I restart ... I hope to solve it.. asap
[15:10] <apo> now its uninstalled..
[15:10] <BluesKaj> apo, what's uninstalled ?
[15:10] <apo> everything graphic related (i hope :/ )
[15:11] <BluesKaj> everything ?
[15:11] <wrgb> Tm_T: how easy are they to use?
[15:11] <apo> nvidia-graphic
[15:11] <wrgb> Dragnslcr: entire database system
[15:11] <Tm_T> wrgb: I have no idea about easyness, sorry
[15:11] <BluesKaj> except nvidia-glx-185 , apo , right
[15:12] <Dragnslcr> wrgb- if you want something simple and standalone, definitely go with SQLite
[15:12] <wrgb> Tm_T: ok, thaks i'll try them and see
[15:12]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[15:12] <apo> thats unsintalled *right now* too, cause you told me to do so half an hour ago. i did not restart since then
[15:12] <apo> i could reinstall it now
[15:13] <wrgb> Dragnslcr: ok, thanks, i'll give it a try
[15:13] <Dragnslcr> wrgb- SQLite doesn't have any kind of server like MySQL or Postgres, it's just a single file for a database and the libraries to use it
[15:14] <wrgb> Dragnslcr: does it have a gui?
[15:14] <Tm_T> apo: I think you need to reboot, then try to install nvidia-glx-185 from repositories (or which version you are needing anyway)
[15:14] <Dragnslcr> There are GUI programs for it, yeah
[15:14] <apo> ok
[15:15] <wrgb> Dragnslcr: ok, i'll look into it
[15:15] <apo> the troll told me to --uninstall an older nvidia.com driver
[15:15] <BluesKaj> apo , you nedd to read everything , not parts ...I told you to install nvidia-glx-185 after uninstalling the previous driver
[15:15] <apo> it sayslibglx.so is not a symbolic link
[15:15] <apo> sry, then the troll told me to uninstall everything. :/
[15:15] <apo> i gonna get it back
[15:15] <BluesKaj> apo, just a sec wait
[15:16] <apo> ok
[15:17] <BluesKaj> apo, in the terminal:glxinfo | grep direct
[15:17] <apo> mesa-utils are not installed atm
[15:18] <apo> i installed them:
[15:18] <apo> direct rendering: Yes
[15:18] <apo>     GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ok. then you are fine , apo
[15:19] <markus> localtime(). i have a hard time trying to get wlan working. hardware is working, i can see the network in the scan and i can try to connect but when it prompts me for a password and i enter the correct one it refuses to connect.
[15:20] <markus> the same password works using win xp.
[15:21] <markus> iwconfig says it requires TKIP which i cannot find in the knetwork manager. could that be the problem?
[15:22] <kiraitachi> hi
[15:22] <kiraitachi> anyone there?
[15:22] <markus> no
[15:23] <Tm_T> kiraitachi: couple hundred only
[15:23] <kiraitachi> haha ok cool...ammm a quick question
[15:23] <kiraitachi> what video converter do yo recomend me?
[15:24] <kiraitachi> like shit...i was using ffwin converter and it suks for psp....so any else?
[15:24] <bazhang> language kiraitachi
[15:24] <kiraitachi> oh...common ....XD
[15:25] <kiraitachi> give me a brake...oh well so what? what do you recommend me?
[15:25] <apo> BluesKaj: any more suggestions except filing a bug report like T m _ T said?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> apo,  your boot loader / grub file might need editing if you are getting boot errors
[15:27] <kiraitachi> ok...no one answers...awesome..
[15:27] <Tm_T> !patience | kiraitachi
[15:27] <maco> video converter?
[15:27] <maco> like re-encoding?
[15:27] <apo> mh, it is not a boot error but a windowed-error msg of X
[15:27] <maco> ffmpeg (command line) is common
[15:28] <Urrghs> hi;  trying to use 2 monitors....so far they unfortunately show the same ....anyone an idea?
[15:28] <kiraitachi> a video converter dude easy simple..that supports  formats thats all...cause when i use winff sucks on changing to psp format...gives errors.
[15:28] <BluesKaj> kiraitachi perhaps if you gave us more detail , we could help , but using demanding languge won't help you eithere
[15:28] <bazhang> kiraitachi, paste.ubuntu.com with the full list of errors
[15:28] <kiraitachi> im sorry....ok ok...XD dont worry either aint mad or stuff like that
[15:29] <gerardo_> hola soy nuevo, como hago para ir al canal de ubuntu
[15:29] <kiraitachi> its just i just uninstalled da winff video converter cause when i was trying to convert from avi to psp format jumps an error of libfacc codec or something like that
[15:30] <bazhang> kiraitachi, we need the exact errors
[15:30] <markus> or something like that ...
[15:30] <kiraitachi> but either way i dont care about it anymore...cause i already uninstalled it lol so....how what video converter u guys use?
[15:30] <bazhang> kiraitachi, paste.ubuntu.com with those
[15:30] <BluesKaj> !es | gerardo_
[15:30] <apo> BluesKaj: i'll do a restart. lets see whathappens
[15:30] <gerardo_> ok gracias
[15:31] <BluesKaj> kiraitachi, ffmpeg is my fav , but it's cli
[15:31] <maco> kiraitachi: calm down, take a deep breath, and then repeat your question using sentences and punctuation, because i don't know what you're saying anymore
[15:31] <kiraitachi> im sorry i dont remember the exact error code...cause i already uninstalled it as i said,,,thats why i was asking for a good video converter just recommend me one that works good
[15:31] <bazhang> kiraitachi, ffmpeg
[15:32] <kiraitachi> ok cool thanks ill google that one and just install it or is it on the repos?
[15:32] <markus> does virtual dub run under linux?
[15:32] <bazhang> kiraitachi, its in the repos
[15:32] <kiraitachi> ok thanks
[15:39] <BluesKaj> kiraitachi, you might try this for psp etc,  http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/
[15:41] <gtozzi> hi there
[15:41] <gtozzi> i need help installing kubuntu 9.04 amd64
[15:42] <BluesKaj> gtozzi, which OS are you running now ?
[15:42] <gtozzi> I'm running kubuntu 9.04 x86 from my laptop
[15:42] <gtozzi> I'm trying to install kubuntu on my desktop too
[15:43] <gtozzi> On my desktop I was previously using Debian sid
[15:43] <gtozzi> I've started the cd but it seems that my Geforce 6600 isn't supported
[15:43] <gtozzi> so i manually apt-getted nvidia-glx from console
[15:44] <gtozzi> then configured xorg and manually started kdm
[15:44] <gtozzi> it worked but now the graphical partition manager doesn't detect two of my 3 hard drives
[15:44] <gtozzi> fdisk -l lists them correctly instead
[15:45] <gtozzi> so I'm stuck
[15:45] <Delano-488637608> Is it possible to remove Konquerer and KOffice without harming the system?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> gtozzi, raid ?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Delano-488637608, not konqueror but koffice can be...i think
[15:47] <gtozzi> BluesKaj: yep, they was raid disks, I have to erase them and make a new raid
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !raid
[15:48] <gtozzi> BluesKaj: I'm gonna check your links, ty
[15:49] <trudell> The microsoft bribes to staff to make ubuntu kernel tainted cards not to run commercial games or 3d in linux.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:49] <Delano-488637608> BluesKaj, do you know any tips or tricks for getting sound and video to perform better in KDE? I noticed there's a definite performance knock (as opposed to how they run in win32)
[15:49] <gtozzi> BluesKaj: damn, so I have to get a whole "alternate" ISO
[15:50] <wernerl> damn, copying files over the network is slooooooooow... :(
[15:50] <ryanakca> wernerl: is it your LAN?
[15:50] <trudell> The microsoft bribes to staff to make ubuntu kernel tainted to not run 3d cards and commercial games linux.
[15:50] <wernerl> My pc is wired, my laptop has a wireless connection. I guess that's the problem.. don't know
[15:52] <ryanakca> wernerl: Ah, nevermind. Had it been wired, I would've suggested you setup NFS with wsize=32768,rsize=32768 as mount options, but slow wireless is probably the culprit :)
[15:53] <gtozzi> wernerl: are you using encrypted protocols? This could be the bottleneck too
[15:53] <aomegax> tsimpson: thanks a lot! we have solved initremfs problem and UUID
[15:53] <Administrator_> goranm
[15:53] <Lazure> can someome please explain this to me. I downloaded the amd64 ISO for Kubuntu, and I ran the wubi installer OFF THAT DISC, why is it downloading the 32-bit version by force inside the installer when I want to install the 64-bit one that i'm running WUBI FROM?
[15:54] <tsimpson> aomegax: it's strange, initramfs should not use any UUIDs, except maybe swap (for resume)
[15:55] <wernerl> gtozzi: yes the wireless connection uses wpa2 encryption. I'll just wait 2 hours.. :+ After this is finished my music collection is the only thing left to backup. Maybe I'm gonna find a better way for that.
[15:55] <aomegax> tsimpson: boh, I don't know but after update-initremfs and an apt-get upgrade it wirks
[15:55] <gtozzi> wernerl: check the CPU usage on both sides during file trasfer
[15:55] <tsimpson> at least it's fixed
[15:56] <gtozzi> wernerl: if it's 100% or close, I guess there isn't relly much you cand do
[15:56] <wernerl> gtozzi: pc: 10% cpu usage, laptop is 14% currently
[15:56] <gtozzi> wernerl: so I'm wrong: it isn't an encryption issue
[15:57] <gtozzi> wernerl: but I can't figure out where is the problem then
[15:57] <Lazure> not only is it downloading something i don't want to install, it's taking 5 million years to download it. is there ANY way i can force kubuntu to install using the 64-bit one that i'm running the wubi installer from? instead of it for some reason deciding i should have the 32-bit version? i have 6gb of ram and a core 2 duo processor
[15:58] <wernerl> me neither.  maybe it's one of the 2 harddrivers that's just crap.
[15:58] <Lazure> i downloaded the 64-bit version of Kubuntu specifically so i can install it 64-bit via Wubi, but running Wubi off that disc still decides to download the 32-bit iso instead.
[15:58] <gtozzi> Lazure: 5 milion yers seems a reasonable time...
[15:59] <Lazure> so does anyone know why this is happening? google won't give me any real results on the matter either, and i'm very frustrated and i don't know where to go for help.
[15:59] <Lazure> i want to install 64-bit kubuntu through wubi, without it downloading the 32-bit version on me
[16:00] <CoverSlide> hi i have a kubuntu karmic setup, and when I run eclipse, a lot of the windows don't respond to button clicks
[16:00] <wernerl> OMFG, i'm monitoring my network traffic right now, it's sending the data with a speed of 6KiB/s.. (couldn't see that in KDE's filetransfer dialog)
[16:00] <gtozzi> wernerl: maybe you can check a trasfer RAM to RAM.
[16:00] <CoverSlide> like the whole entire preferences window when i click a button, it just selects it, doesn't actually click
[16:00] <Lazure> i guess no one can help me.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Lazure, wubi is meant to give the linux experience without a complete install ..the 64 bit version won't make much difference
[16:01] <Lazure> problem blues, is that if i install the 32-bit like i did before, if it breaks just from updating it like it did my 32-bit ubuntu wubi install, i can't fix it with my VM's initrd file
[16:01] <tsimpson> Lazure: maybe it's this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/465936
[16:01] <Lazure> cuz 32-bit puts a -pae on my kernel which in a VM, does not happen
[16:02] <gtozzi> wernerl: try something like flood-ping to check throughput
[16:03] <gtozzi> wernerl: ping -f <host>
[16:04] <ahmedtaufiq> !html
[16:04] <wernerl> gtozzi: as root I can flood, not as normal user.
[16:05] <tsimpson> wernerl: that's by design
[16:05] <ahmedtaufiq> !repository
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Lazure, dunno about vmware and wubi installed together...maybe seeking advice in #wubi is best
[16:05] <gtozzi> wernerl: it's correct, what's the flood throughput?
[16:05] <wernerl> 19798 packets transmitted, 19797 received, 0% packet loss, time 14921ms
[16:07] <gtozzi> wernerl: mhhhh..
[16:08] <gtozzi> wernerl: looks like 100kbps or close
[16:10] <gtozzi> wernerl: maybe it's really a wireless singnal strenght issue
[16:10] <trudell> Microsoft bribes to the development team of Ubuntu for these make tained kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux.
[16:10] <trudell> Microsoft bribes to the development team of Ubuntu for these make tained kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux.
[16:12] <trudell> Microsoft bribes to the development team of Ubuntu for these make tained kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux.
[16:12] <bazhang> trudell, stop that
[16:12] <trudell> isnt true?
[16:12] <bazhang> no
[16:12] <bazhang> trudell, stop trolling
[16:13] <bazhang> whoops
[16:13] <gtozzi> lol
[16:13] <BluesKaj> bazhang, he's been kicked again
[16:13] <maco> too late
[16:13] <maco> BluesKaj: i think that was the whoops
[16:13] <bazhang> BluesKaj, banned even
[16:14] <BluesKaj>  Tm_T sets a ban on trudell!
[16:14] <BluesKaj> some ppl need a life
[16:15] <gtozzi> maybe a girlfriend too
[16:15] <gtozzi> :)
[16:16] <BluesKaj> hehe, gtozzi
[16:16] <markus> girls suck!
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !OT
[16:17] <BluesKaj> markus, :)
[16:17] <wernerl> Time for food. I'll connect my laptop wired when i'm back. Hope that solves the issue. brb
[16:19] <maco> markus: now now simmer down there
[16:22] <BluesKaj> must have been dumped
[16:28] <Urrghs> hey guys...seems that in ger channel noone can help me, but now I really need some advice here....
[16:29] <bazhang> Urrghs, help with what
[16:29] <Urrghs> how to start;  ok
[16:30] <Urrghs> I tried to get 2 monitors working, so I changed  my   xorg.conf
[16:30] <bazhang> Urrghs, have you looked at xrandr
[16:30] <Urrghs> of course I had a backup
[16:30] <Urrghs> well;  now the 2nd monitor is not the problem any more
[16:31] <Urrghs> after the change...it did not work quite well   and everything looked quite strange......so I recovered the old xorg.conf
[16:31] <Urrghs> now the file is the same as before when everything worked well
[16:32] <bazhang> Urrghs, I would suggest you read a bit about xrandr
[16:32] <bazhang> !xrandr
[16:32] <Urrghs> but still   I have got a serious problem here
[16:32] <bazhang> Urrghs, ^^
[16:32] <Urrghs> but the 2nd monitor is not the issue anymore :(
[16:33] <bazhang> Urrghs, have you read through that documentation ?
[16:33] <Urrghs> no, I did not
[16:33] <bazhang> Urrghs, that would be a good place to start
[16:33] <Urrghs> will it help me with my problem now that the KWin  crashes  again and again?
[16:34] <bazhang> Urrghs, that sounds like a driver issue or something separate; one issue at a time
[16:34] <Urrghs> only one monitor...nothing changed to before.....old xorg.conf file
[16:34] <Urrghs> this is what I explain
[16:34] <bazhang> Urrghs, I understand, but that is not very informative
[16:35] <Urrghs> but it started after I changed the xorg.conf file
[16:35] <Urrghs> sorry mate...I will try to be more exact
[16:35] <Urrghs> but it is difficult since I really did not change anything on system except the xorg.cong  and then changed it back
[16:36] <bazhang> Urrghs, honestly, if you did a bit of reading (as above) you would be able to explain the issue much more clearly: such as, I tried this from A, but got error B and provide the errors you got when doing it.
[16:36] <Urrghs> I never got any errors.....
[16:37] <gtozzi> Urrghs: do you get some dump or message when kwin crashes?
[16:37] <Urrghs> the only error I got and get is the one that KWin is unstable and crashes all the time,  but OK ; probably you are right...I will look into it
[16:38] <reinaldo> I used to transfer file from my cell phone to my computer through bluetooth using kbluetooth. But after upgrading to Karmic koala it isn't working. What would be the problem?
[16:38] <gtozzi> Urrghs: try restarting kwin from konsole after it crashed then see if they are errors
[16:39] <Urrghs> there are two messages:  the first is that    it is unstable     and that it crashed  several times and that I can select another window manager...(but there is only KWin to chose)
[16:40] <Urrghs> and the other message is that KWin was aborted unexpectedly.......details:   kwin PID: 19862 Signal: Aborted
[16:41] <gtozzi> Urrghs: sorry, I don't know how to help
[16:42] <Urrghs> whe I start it with console....then it crashes, too
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Urrghs, do dmesg after console crash , and pastebinit
[16:46] <gtozzi> !utf8
[16:47] <Urrghs> kwin: ../../src/xcb_io.c:542: _XRead: Assertion 'dpy->xcb->reply_data != ((void *)0)' failed
[16:47] <Urrghs> Application::crashHandler() called with signal 6; recent crashes 4
[16:48] <Urrghs> KCrash: Application 'kwin' crashing
[16:49] <Urrghs> sock_file=/home/.../.kde/socket-username-laptop/kdeinit4__0
[16:49] <Urrghs> this is all the console is saying
[16:49] <Urrghs> then I see the crash window....when I close it....everything starts from begining
[16:50] <Urrghs> always crashes 4 times before the window appears
[16:50] <gtozzi> damn I've downloaded the wrong iso -.-
[16:54] <lovre> hi all. Can i somehow hide or remove this middle applet part of amarok? I dont need it and its making the window too big?
[16:58] <gtozzi> lovre: you can configure thw whole amarok2 layout by clicking a button in the up-right part of the window
[16:58] <gtozzi> lovre: I don't remember what's the button
[16:58] <Urrghs> and just now I find out another strange thing....I cannot start in safe mode.....it just returns to the login
[16:58] <lovre> gtozzi: i seem to be able to configure it now after i unchecked Lock Layout...
[16:59] <gtozzi> lovre: nice, you found it :)
[16:59] <lovre> gtozzi: ye :D thanx
[17:02] <lovre> gtozzi: can i change skins in amarok 2.2'
[17:03] <rednax> can someone tell me why my mic wont work on skype, and when i talk, i hear myself...
[17:04] <gtozzi> rednax: check mixer settings
[17:04] <rednax> i tried google, youtube, im totally a beginner, please give me a step by step instructionss..
[17:05] <gtozzi> rednax: locate a speaker icon in the tray bar (down/right)
[17:05] <gtozzi> rednax: click it
[17:05] <Hans_Henrik> is there any memory-editor/JIT-debugger (like Ollydbg/Cheat Engine/Art Money/etc) for linux?
[17:05] <gtozzi> rednax: a volume bar should appear, below, you should have a "mixer" button
[17:05] <gtozzi> rednax: click the "mixer" button, the mixer should then open
[17:05] <Urrghs> just thinking that maybe such a X- reconfigure might help,  when  typing    sudo dpkg -reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    it does not work  it  saysy that option -e (control)  and -r (remove) conflict each other
[17:06] <rednax> i use ubuntu 8.04
[17:06] <rednax> gtozzi: cause that ones' flash works better than 9.04 one
[17:06] <bazhang> Urrghs, that is deprecated. the xrandr docs are what you need to look at
[17:07] <gtozzi> Hans_Henrik: AFAIK this kind of software doesn't work on linux because of better security policies
[17:07] <gtozzi> rednax: it shoulddn't be different
[17:07] <rednax> gtozzi: there is nothing there saying "mixer"
[17:08] <Hans_Henrik> gtozzi: umm.. if it's ran by root, i dont see why it shouldn't work tho
[17:08] <gtozzi> rednax: try right-clicking the icon
[17:08] <rednax> ye?
[17:08] <rednax> gtozzi: what should it say there?
[17:08] <gtozzi> Hans_Henrik: if you got root privileges, then you can
[17:09] <gtozzi> rednax: show mixer or something like
[17:09] <Urrghs> @ bazhang     you mean this link?
[17:09] <rednax> gtozzi: no it dosent say anything bout mixer anyhow.
[17:09] <gtozzi> Hans_Henrik: but I don't know any gui software to do that
[17:09] <Urrghs> http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[17:10] <bazhang> Urrghs, yes
[17:10] <gtozzi> rednax: damn, search for mix in you applications then (open the K menu then write mix in the search bar)
[17:11] <gtozzi> rednax: you should find kmix
[17:11] <rednax> gtozzi: sorry can u explain more easily, im so sorry, but im really new to this.
[17:11] <rednax> gtozzi: ok ill try and find it, but i use ubuntu 8.04, not kubuntu
[17:11] <gtozzi> rednax: -.-'
[17:11] <rednax> gtozzi: no kmix in there
[17:11] <gtozzi> rednax: so you are in the wrong support channel...
[17:12] <rednax> gtozzi: well like i said, idk, im totally new to this
[17:12] <gtozzi> rednax: ask in @ubuntu instead
[17:12] <Urrghs> I really do not understand how this should help with my KWin,  but I will read and try....as change in xorg.conf started it :)
[17:14] <jak> Cheeky question for anyone, could I check with someone before I fully reinstall everything, would Ubuntu 64x work fine with a 64x Centrino device? :)
[17:14] <rednax> gtozzi: where do i get that id to join thems chat?
[17:15] <bazhang> jak, core duo or core2duo
[17:16] <jak> mm, just intel: centrino Duo
[17:16] <bazhang> core duo then
[17:16] <bazhang> thats only 32bit
[17:16] <jak> Oh really? I was sure it was 64 bit
[17:17] <bazhang> jak, you have an ubuntu installed there now?
[17:17] <jak> Aye, but as a 32bit isntall
[17:17] <bazhang> if its core2 its 64
[17:18] <jak> Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 - 1.66GHz (x2), 667MHz FSB, 2MB L2 Cache
[17:18] <jak> Thats the processor
[17:18] <bazhang> there you go
[17:18] <jak> So I'm good to go with a 64x install?
[17:19] <jak> Seemed like in the last release of Ubuntu they fixed a lot of graphics errors and my gpu has suddenly burst into a little more life. Thought I'd try and get Savage2 working with a fresh install
[17:21] <bazhang> jak, yep
[17:21] <kankan_> cannot og into system from cold boot .using karmic
[17:22] <jak> You're a star bazhang, thanks to you!
[17:22] <bazhang> jak, you hunted down all the info :)
[17:22] <jak> lol =]
[17:23] <bazhang> true :)
[17:24] <jak> Does Ubuntu not advertise an alternative cd download anymore btw?
[17:24] <jak> Used to be the only way I could get my gpu to work
[17:24] <bazhang> jak, it does, just a bit hard to spot on the main page
[17:25] <bazhang> jak, let me find a link; was that Kubuntu, correct?
[17:25] <Vroomfondle> jak: click on "alternative download options" on the download page
[17:25] <Vroomfondle> then on "text-based installer", I think
[17:25] <bazhang> ^^
[17:25] <jak> lol
[17:25] <jak> Ah yea I sees it
[17:26] <jak> I've never installed Kubuntu directly, I always go with a Gnome install and then install KDE over the top
[17:26] <jak> I'm not much of a Linux wizard
[17:26] <maco> i read that as linux lizard
[17:26] <jak> lol
[17:27] <gtozzi> jak: doin' that you'll end up with a lot of unused gnome-related stuff in your system
[17:27] <WilliamBuell> i only have 32 bit.... is 64bit a dramatic increase in speed, performance.... can ubuntu truly take advantage of 64 bit? just curious
[17:27] <WilliamBuell> i get by fine with what i have, old computers, 32 bit
[17:27] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: it's quitethe same
[17:28] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: just a bit faster
[17:28] <dtchen> WilliamBuell: 64-bit is useful for many cases where memory is an issue
[17:28] <dtchen> WilliamBuell: otherwise, in terms of software compatibility, it's a real bear
[17:28] <jak> Aye gtozzi, but I find myself switching between them quite a lot, and despite KDE being my overall prefered I find it weirdly unstable at times
[17:30] <jak> Which might be because I install it over the top of a Gnome install? *shrugs*
[17:30] <gtozzi> jak: I agree, usually kde updates brings new unstable thing and leaves older ones still unstable
[17:30] <WilliamBuell> what do i click to automatically include someones nick in my response? just curious
[17:30] <WilliamBuell> i am new to IRC
[17:30] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: use tab key autocompletion
[17:30] <WilliamBuell> aha
[17:30] <WilliamBuell> gtozzi: hey, great it works\
[17:30] <WilliamBuell> ha ha
[17:31] <gtozzi> like linux shell
[17:31] <cichy> Hi guys, I've got a question - have encrypted home partition, and need to mount it before KDE starts. Before upgrade to karmic koala I had a boot script, which simply did read password. But now, read command seem to be ignored on boot. Did any of you encountered similar problem?
[17:32] <kankan_> pls halp!!cant loginto system from cold boot.
[17:33] <gtozzi> cichy: I've disabled kdm autostart in init.d. I run a script in place that asks for my encrypted home password then launchs kdm
[17:34] <gtozzi> cichy: maybe it's not a clean solution, but it works for me
[17:34] <cichy> gtozzi: ok - thanks for the hint - I will try it :)
[17:34] <kankan_> gtozzi: cant loginto system from cold boot.
[17:35] <gtozzi> kankan_: what's the error message?
[17:36] <akajunior> Hallo,all . i need a nice music mixer , i mean some program to make music to mix edit and add tracks or something like that . i used to work with windows and now iam abit lost here . i will be thankfull for any help here or in private msg .thnx again
[17:36] <kankan_> gtozzi: no error message.only the screen gets blank and irresponsive.
[17:36] <kankan_> akajunior: use audacious
[17:36] <gtozzi> kankan_: try pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[17:37] <gtozzi> kankan_: looks like a xorg misconfiguration issue
[17:37] <akajunior> thnx allot
[17:37] <kankan_> gtozzi: it happens only when login from cold boot.i log into system from recovery mode.
[17:37] <kankan_> then its all fine.
[17:38] <kankan_> gtozzi: press when?in time of booting?
[17:38] <gtozzi> kankan_: when you are in front of black screen, it should kill xorg and give you a text console
[17:39] <kankan_> should i have to enable the the key combination?
[17:39] <kankan_> its not enabled right now.
[17:39] <akajunior> Again another question .. iam stuck with german fonts :D how can i change the language ..i installed english one but my keybord is still not getting it ..
[17:40] <kankan_> where should i found?
[17:40] <gtozzi> kankan_: it should be enabled by default
[17:40] <Tm_T> gtozzi: I believe it's not
[17:40] <kankan_> Tm_T: how to enable it pls?
[17:40] <Tm_T> !dontzap | kankan_
[17:41] <gtozzi> keffie_jayx: try ctrl+alt+f1 instead
[17:41] <gtozzi> kankan_: try ctrl+alt+f1 instead
[17:42] <nate_> Does anyone know how to get firefox to handle downloads from getdeb?
[17:42] <gtozzi> kankan_: then kill xorg and investigate in /var/log/xorg-something.log for what happened
[17:47] <noren> hi all
[17:47] <gtozzi> hi noren
[17:47] <WilliamBuell> noren:  hi
[17:48] <noren> any idea how to list all the less often used apps
[17:49] <gtozzi> noren: no, but it's a very interesting question
[17:50] <noren> yes cause i experiment a lot by installing many app but havent kept a track of all that...... now how can i find them to remove them
[17:51] <thomastim> juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[17:51] <noren> bazhang, are  u there
[17:52] <bazhang> noren, hi
[17:52] <gtozzi> damn, damn, damn
[17:52] <noren> i needed some suggestion regarding
[17:52] <noren> any idea how to list all the less often used apps
[17:52] <gtozzi> even using the alternate CD the installation process doesn't sees all my hard drives
[17:53] <noren> gtozzi, use fdisk -l
[17:53] <gtozzi> they are listed correctly by fdisk -l but not on the partition manager
[17:53] <noren> are u using gparted
[17:54] <gtozzi> i'm using thext-based install and the builtin part. manager
[17:54] <gtozzi> i've tried graphical install before with same results
[17:55] <noren> bazhang, any idea how to list all the less often used apps
[17:55] <bazhang> noren, hang on a second, checking someone's lspci
[17:55] <noren> gtozzi, no idea never installed with multiple harddisk here
[17:55] <noren> bazhang, ok
[17:56] <NSsmiles> hi
[17:56] <noren> hi | NSsmiles
[17:57] <gtozzi> is there a way to manually create them from console then tell the text install to resume?
[17:57] <NSsmiles> i  have gone through the steps to install wine and itunes...error itunes could not be configures...auto run is turned off
[17:58] <NSsmiles> can someone resolve this
[17:58] <noren> NSsmiles, y not use Rhythmbox its itunes alternative in ubuntu
[17:59] <NSsmiles> i tried  but it doesn't show the ipod
[17:59] <NSsmiles> but i could try again
[17:59] <noren> gtozzi, i wud suggest to do a minimal install and then reconfigure
[17:59] <noren> NSsmiles, did u get the Rythmbox plugin for ipod
[18:00] <antman91> hey i was told that kubuntu 9.10 comes with a game moduler but icant find it =[
[18:00] <NSsmiles> no i   didn't get the plugin
[18:01] <noren> NSsmiles, go to the Rhtymbox EDIT option and activate the plugin
[18:02] <gtozzi> noren: I'm trying to install on a folder of the only hard drive it can see, then I'll move my root partition later
[18:03] <NSsmiles> ok thanks noren
[18:04] <noren> gtozzi, u can try that but i guess u wud have to reconfigure the grub boot loader after that
[18:04] <gtozzi> noren: i dont' fear grub :P
[18:05] <K350> Applications that normaly prompts for superuser passwords in my Kubuntu 9.10 don't do that anymore. Why is that and how can I adjust this?
[18:05] <noren> NSsmiles, do tell if it worked as i hav not tried as i dont have ipod
[18:05] <noren> K350, what applications
[18:05] <K350> noren: synaptic for instance.
[18:06] <K350> noren: and several apps in systemsettings
[18:06] <noren> K350, if your username is having the sudo power it wont
[18:07] <NSsmiles> i did a frest install of kubuntu 9.10 now i can't seem to get Rhythmbox
[18:07] <noren> K350, check in the kuser settings
[18:07] <NSsmiles> fresh*
[18:07] <noren> NSsmiles, sudo apt-get install Rhythmbox
[18:08] <corigo2> I can add my True Type fonts, but how do I add OpenType fonts?
[18:08] <K350> noren: Even if you're in teh sudoerlist you're still required to enter the password.
[18:08] <gtozzi> noren: about your previous questions, maybe checking the atime of the files in the /usr/bin folder should be a solution
[18:09] <NSsmiles> says couldn't find package
[18:09] <WilliamBuell> gtozzi: great idea!
[18:09] <noren> gtozzi, ya it might be lemme check
[18:10] <antman91> hey i was told that kubuntu 9.10 comes with a game moduler but icant find it =[
[18:11] <noren> try NSsmiles sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
[18:11] <WilliamBuell> noren: what does rythhmbox do,... a game
[18:12] <NSsmiles> there is a download page for Rhythmbox but not  sure what to open it with
[18:12] <NSsmiles> sudo apt-get install rhythmbox....says couldn't find package
[18:13] <antman91> i dont mean to be pushy but ive ben here for a while and have received no help at all
[18:13] <noren> WilliamBuell, its a music application client just like amarok but for gnome
[18:13] <gtozzi> antman91: sorry, can't help
[18:14] <noren> NSsmiles, i think we are doing a typo here , just use the packagemanger
[18:14] <noren> antman91, sorry but we cud only help if we know some sort of solution for that
[18:15] <shadowhywind> hay all, looking for some ideas. I keep running e2fsck on a hdd and keep getting about 5 errors, any ideas on how to force the fixes?
[18:15] <antman91> can no one help or just you?? i really need this game modeler
[18:15] <NSsmiles> i   tried packagemanager first  but didnt see it on the list
[18:15] <antman91> ok
[18:16] <gtozzi> shadowhywind: make a backup and format it :)
[18:16] <noren> NSsmiles, thats strange
[18:16] <noren> !ipod
[18:16] <noren> !ipod | NSsmiles
[18:16] <gtozzi> shadowhywind: i suggest also to check for bad clusters before (using badblocks)
[18:16] <NSsmiles> ok
[18:17] <shadowhywind> gtozzi: how would I check for bad clusters?
[18:17] <gtozzi> shadowhywind: man badblocks
[18:17] <Urrghs> so; unfortunately the xrandr does not help, or maybe I am too dumb....so.....I think that  somehow I will have to backup my files and reinstall.....thx for help anyways
[18:18] <noren> Urrghs, ??
[18:18] <gtozzi> Urrghs: maybe you should try to just purge and reinstall xorg before
[18:18] <shadowhywind> gtozzi: so just to make sure, all i have to do is, badblocks /dev/sdb1 ?
[18:18] <eshat> is there a good KDE FTP Client alternative to filezilla  with similar functions ?
[18:19] <Urrghs> purge and reinstall  Xorg?
[18:19] <Urrghs> how this?
[18:19] <noren> eshat i use gftp
[18:20] <gtozzi> shadowhywind: this is to check your hard drive. make a backup before. the badblocks -fw mode is more efficient, but IT WILL DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA
[18:20] <eshat> noren: but it's GTK ! I want somthing in qt or with a few dependecies
[18:20] <shadowhywind> gtozzi: thanks
[18:20] <noren> !ftp
[18:20] <eshat> noren: ih it is just 5 MB, I ll install gftp
[18:21] <noren> eshat, its very light ftp client
[18:21] <eshat> noren: thanks, that helps
[18:21] <Tm_T> eshat: well, if you are on KDE, you already have Konqueror
[18:21] <noren> eshat, ur welcome
[18:22] <WilliamBuell> i need to learn more about full backup restore of ubuntu. i found one long command which zips entire system into a tar... but has error msg at end
[18:22] <gtozzi> shadowhywind: you'r welcome
[18:23] <WilliamBuell> and i cannot afford to try a restore from it... and i dont know how to verify a tar
[18:23] <eshat> Tm_T: but konqueror can not open php files, I get errors when starting kate. same with dolphin... I have to drag and drop in splitwindows mode
[18:23] <Tm_T> hmm, weird, should work
[18:23] <WilliamBuell> i used synaptic to install a simple backup/restore suite with a gui, so i will experiment with that today later i think
[18:24] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: I've read about a "live" linux disk image solution but I don't remember it's name
[18:24] <WilliamBuell> plus the tar backup command puts the tar in HOME, and it was 2.5 gig... so i worry how i would do complete backup if the size exceeds capacity of HOME
[18:25] <maco> i usually use rsync to copy everything to another hard disk
[18:25] <maco> rsync takes long the first time and less time thereafter since it only has to write changes
[18:25] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: you can put the tar file whenever you want, even pipe it through ssh to a remote host
[18:25] <WilliamBuell> i have dvd that will write to 8 gig rewriteable disk, and i experimented with that, was able to delete old files, doesnt seem to need reformat
[18:25] <WilliamBuell> gtozzi:  thanks, sounds like something to investigate
[18:26] <WilliamBuell> i would like to find tutorial for complete system tar backup that pipes it to the dvd or a mem stick
[18:26] <WilliamBuell> i think there are 65 gig mem sticks, and that would hold me for a long time
[18:26] <WilliamBuell> and if i exceeded that, i could do backups in stages/chunks/parts
[18:26] <maco> except flash media dies after so many writes
[18:27] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: for the mem stick, just mount it (i.e. on /mnt/bckstick) then tar <your options> f /mnt/bckstick/<yourfilename>.tar <source>
[18:28] <valentina> ciao!
[18:28] <gtozzi> valentina: ciao / hi!
[18:28] <WilliamBuell> except i am such a novice, i need the entire command spelled out for me, so i can make sense of it
[18:28] <WilliamBuell> but i can google lots and perhaps find a tutorial
[18:29] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: man tar, you'll find everything you need
[18:30] <NSsmiles> do any of you have 9.10 and Rhythmbox
[18:31] <user1_> hi
[18:31] <BlouBlou> !hi | user1_
[18:32] <user1_> how are you BlouBlou ubottu
[18:32] <BlouBlou> user1_: ubottu is a bot :)
[18:33] <gtozzi> lol
[18:33] <user1_> ok
[18:33] <jussi01> !bot
[18:33] <noren> user1_, nevermind it happend with me also wen i was new here
[18:34] <noren> NSsmiles, did the link did not helped
[18:34] <noren> !package
[18:35] <WilliamBuell> oh, so ubottu is a bot! ha ha
[18:36] <WilliamBuell> My technique is to blog about my latest project at wordpress to document my notes, suggestions, problems solutions, so I just started one for backup restore http://wp.me/pBlI9-km
[18:36] <user1_> i am new
[18:36] <noren> user1_, we were all new someday !! :)
[18:36] <user1_> i am new noren
[18:36] <noren> WilliamBuell, whats ur prob ????
[18:37] <WilliamBuell> and whenever I find a useful link for that project , such as backup, then I bookmark it at http://delicious.com/billbuell so it has tags and others can view if they find useful
[18:37] <WilliamBuell> i am going to practice, research ways for me to do complete system backups
[18:37] <WilliamBuell> this is my first month with ubuntu
[18:37] <user1_> ok noren
[18:37] <noren> WilliamBuell, ok
[18:38] <user1_> any speak spanish??
[18:38] <noren> user1_, do u have any prob this is a support channel
[18:38] <WilliamBuell> but wordpress and delicious are great techniques to document every step i do, from wubi installs, to pure ubuntu, to wifi adaptor, ethernet, backup, restore, etc etc
[18:38] <noren> user1_, | !sp
[18:38] <noren> user1_, | !es
[18:38] <WilliamBuell> i hope my comments are acceptible in this channel as being on topic
[18:38] <gtozzi> !sp
[18:39] <WilliamBuell> i mean, i do want to be compliant
[18:39] <gtozzi> !es
[18:39] <user1_> yes noren have any qestions
[18:39] <gtozzi> noren: invert patterns :P
[18:39] <user1_> ok bot
[18:39] <noren> :)
[18:40] <noren> !rhythmbox
[18:40] <WilliamBuell> for example last night i had questions regarding SED method to clean IRC log of Join Part Nick, and someone referred me to the special SED channel
[18:41] <maco> theres a #kubuntu-offtopic channel too...
[18:41] <WilliamBuell> it wasnt too active, but, I posted my questions and scripts as a blog, and posted the link, so that if someone comes by one hour later, and sees my post, they can visit link and see my issues
[18:41] <WilliamBuell> except i believe everything i am posting is right on topic, since it is ubuntu related
[18:41] <K350> Synaptic and other applications that use to prompt me for the password don't do that anymore. Why is that and what can I do to adjust this?
[18:42] <K350> Or , where do I adjust  this?
[18:42] <WilliamBuell> someone asked about that password issue yesterday
[18:42] <WilliamBuell> there was some package they were using, that in turn used a package that turned password options on and off
[18:42] <noren> K350, did u see the kuser
[18:42] <WilliamBuell> its in my log somewhere i am sure
[18:44] <K350> noren: If I saw the kuser?
[18:44] <WilliamBuell> i found the discussion of package kit in my log
[18:47] <WilliamBuell> packagekit uses PolicyKit which has options to increase or decrease password prompting
[18:47] <WilliamBuell> thats what i found in my log from yesterday
[18:49] <gtozzi> finally, my desktop is up and unning with kubuntu, noew i have to setup raid and migrate to main hard drivers
[18:50] <Walzmyn> gtozzi: grats!
[18:50] <kim_Da_Nite> Anyone having problem with huawei wireless modem model E220 after update to ubuntu 9.10
[18:50] <Walzmyn> where do you go to chance the default options for a new device plugged in?
[18:51] <eshat> Tm_T: Hey you were right, with koqueror and FTP. You can simple open ftp://user@adress and open/save files with kate. I user kwrite by mistake, which does not support ftp...
[18:52] <eshat> works also in dolphin
[18:53] <noren> eshat, i see the prob solved then
[18:53] <eshat> noren: yesm thanks for the help, now editing my websites is easier as with filezilla
[18:54] <eshat> *m=,
[18:56] <noren> !ipod
[18:57] <noren> !RockBox
[18:57] <K350> Howto restart/reload kde?
[18:57] <maco> log out and log bak in?
[18:57] <noren> K350, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[18:58] <WilliamBuell> !Konversation
[18:58] <WilliamBuell> !ircii
[18:58] <maco> !info ircii
[18:58] <noren> WilliamBuell, now the default application is Quassel
[18:58] <WilliamBuell> so, now i know about bang query
[18:58] <WilliamBuell> aha
[18:58] <WilliamBuell> !info Konversation
[18:59] <WilliamBuell> such queries to bots are useful
[18:59] <WilliamBuell> !info clamv
[18:59] <WilliamBuell> !clamv
[18:59] <WilliamBuell> !Avast
[18:59] <WilliamBuell> !info avast
[18:59] <WilliamBuell> !info backup
[18:59] <WilliamBuell> !backup
[19:02] <gtozzi> !swap
[19:05] <WilliamBuell> regarding swap, when I did my first disk partition format to do my first ubuntu install, I used Gnome partition, with little documentation, and it took me a while to figure out i need "/" (root) ext3, unnamed format type SWAP-FILE, and the rest as /home
[19:05] <WilliamBuell> I didnt know what to put for file size allocations, so i guest 512 for root and swap, and got error message, too small, so i increased to 5000, just guessing, and that worked
[19:06] <WilliamBuell> it is a 280 gig drive on my old Gateway tower
[19:07] <noren> WilliamBuell, ur swap space should be double than ur physical memory
[19:08] <WilliamBuell> i am too much novice to really understand, but i will post that to my notes
[19:08] <WilliamBuell> makes sense though, so i just need to find what my physical memory is
[19:08] <noren> WilliamBuell, how much ram does ur system has
[19:09] <WilliamBuell> if i was a rocket scientist, i would know which button to click to get that answer
[19:09] <WilliamBuell> thats how new i am
[19:09] <noren> ok then use can use app like top or htop
[19:09] <WilliamBuell> and, since i got this one and only machine working, i figure i will not have chance to change swap and root until and unless i have disaster and have to reinstall
[19:10] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: cat /proc/meminfo
[19:10] <WilliamBuell> ok i shall try that gtozzi
[19:11] <WilliamBuell> gtozzi: memtotal 1025464 kb
[19:12] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: so you need at least 2GB of swap
[19:12] <WilliamBuell> but it is hard for me to understand such numbers, or translate them into the numbers that the partition software would expece
[19:12] <WilliamBuell> so i gave the partition software 5000, what does that translate to?
[19:12] <WilliamBuell> i know the ubuntu is working now ok for days
[19:12] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: anyway in my experience, if you don't want to use the hibernate function you can go with much less swap without any problem
[19:13] <WilliamBuell> i gave it 512 and it said TOO SMALL, i gave it 5000 for root and 5000 for swap, and it worked
[19:13] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: 5000 should be approx 5GB
[19:13] <WilliamBuell> and i was staying up all night, doing a guessing game, with 20 attempts to install, so i just wanted to see it work
[19:13] <WilliamBuell> so 5000 is plenty for my machine for root and swap
[19:13] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: just check SwapTotal in meminfo to be sure
[19:13] <noren> only 5gb for root
[19:14] <noren> and i guess u must be having /home directory also same in that
[19:14] <WilliamBuell> swaptotal 4883720 kb
[19:14] <WilliamBuell> so, that looks close to the 5 gig you said, no?
[19:14] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: yep
[19:14] <WilliamBuell> WOW, i lucked out in my guesses
[19:14] <noren> WilliamBuell, u wil face prob when ur home partition starts growing
[19:15] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: you got even more swap than you need :P
[19:15] <WilliamBuell> i have been with windows since 1985, and now i am blown away by speed and ease of ubuntu
[19:15] <WilliamBuell> well gtozzi swap must be like money and whiskey, cant ever have TOO Much
[19:15] <WilliamBuell> so, i should be ok
[19:15] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: ROTFL
[19:16] <WilliamBuell> except, i should say i never touch drop of alcohol, but it is funny old saying/joke
[19:16] <noren> WilliamBuell, i guess your next project should be to get ur home folder to a separate partion
[19:16] <noren> partition
[19:16] <WilliamBuell> oh, i did 3 partitions
[19:16] <WilliamBuell> one they call root but the name is just "/"
[19:17] <WilliamBuell> next is no name with file type swap-file
[19:17] <WilliamBuell> and third partition was "/home"
[19:17] <WilliamBuell> so, i must have home in its own partition
[19:17] <WilliamBuell> no?
[19:17] <gtozzi> WilliamBuell: yep
[19:17] <noren> yes u are
[19:18] <WilliamBuell> wow, it took me HOURS to guess how that works,... but then i blog each step in my wordpress so if i need to do it again, it is right there, including all my mistakes,... so it can help other newbies
[19:18] <WilliamBuell> i found one totally free pdf book on introductory Ubuntu, and it is very helpful, i am slowly reading it
[19:19] <WilliamBuell> i want to become fluent in Ubuntu because i am so sick and tired of microsoft windows nonsense, year after year
[19:19] <WilliamBuell> one article suggested that the threat of Ubuntu forced Microsoft to speed up release of Windows 7
[19:19] <maco> WilliamBuell: this is a support channel. think you could head over to #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic?
[19:19] <WilliamBuell> ok
[19:19] <maco> thanks
[19:19] <WilliamBuell> sorry maco
[19:20] <WilliamBuell> maco: i will stay on topic here, i am so new, it will take some time
[19:20] <gtozzi> maco: ok, it's a support chanell but we still are people, not robots :)
[19:21] <WilliamBuell> maco: is right, rules are rules, and there is PM and offtopic channels
[19:21] <maco> and thankfully, people can handle natural language processing better than robots can, to be able to read the /topic
[19:21] <maco> gtozzi: ^
[19:21] <WilliamBuell> ##sed
[19:21] <gtozzi> maco: touché
[19:21] <WilliamBuell> aha, i remembered how to get to the sed channel
[19:21] <WilliamBuell> from yesterday
[19:23] <WilliamBuell> maco: i just joined #ubuntu-offtopic thanks, you are perfectly correct
[19:37] <gengko> im the grosest
[19:48] <kiraitachi> hi need help anyone there?
[19:49] <kiraitachi> i got a prob with winff
[19:49] <kiraitachi> plz help
[19:49] <BlouBlou> !ask | kiraitachi
[19:49] <kiraitachi> haha ok its just that i wanted to know if there is someone to listen ok here it goes
[19:49] <kiraitachi> i tryed to convert an avi file to psp file
[19:49] <kiraitachi> with winff when i try to do so it jumps an error
[19:50] <kiraitachi> this is the log from the console
[19:50] <BlouBlou> kiraitachi: paste error to pastebin
[19:50] <kiraitachi> FFmpeg version SVN-r19352-4:0.5+svn20090706-2ubuntu2, Copyright (c) 2000-2009 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
[19:50] <kiraitachi>   configuration: --extra-version=4:0.5+svn20090706-2ubuntu2 --prefix=/usr --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-vdpau --enable-bzlib --enable-libgsm --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --enable-zlib --disable-stripping --disable-vhook --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-swscale --enable-x11grab --enable-libdc1394 --extra-cflags=-I/build/buildd/ffmpeg-0
[19:50] <kiraitachi> .5+svn20090706/debian/include --enable-shared --disable-static
[19:50] <kiraitachi>   libavutil     49.15. 0 / 49.15. 0
[19:50] <FloodBotK3> kiraitachi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:50] <kiraitachi>   libavcodec    52.20. 0 / 52.20. 0
[19:50] <BlouBlou> !paste > kiraitachi
[19:51] <kiraitachi> sorry...
[19:51] <BlouBlou> don't worry
[19:51] <kiraitachi> well thats the error log...already up there..
[19:51] <BlouBlou> bot quiets you, so I didn't read
[19:51] <BlouBlou> !paste | kiraitachi
[19:52] <BlouBlou> then give us the link
[19:52] <KjetilK> I had my one-year-old on my lap, and she tends to find keyboard shortcuts I'm not aware of... :-) Now, she changed the timezone of the panel clock, and I can't get it back to the local default... Back in the day, it used to be easy to set it to any of the configured timezones, but now I can't find it...
[19:52] <kiraitachi> ok here is the log of the error
[19:53] <kiraitachi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/325572/
[19:53] <kiraitachi> there it is
[19:53] <kiraitachi> is it a codec i need to install?
[19:54] <BlouBlou> kiraitachi: no, you are trying to convert a part of video
[19:54] <kiraitachi> no its just that the video is called part 1 but its the hole movie...
[19:55] <kiraitachi> pretty sure about it...
[19:55] <kiraitachi> and it happens with all the avis i try to convert to psp format..
[19:55] <BlouBlou> kiraitachi: have you got ffmpeg instaled?
[19:55] <BlouBlou> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[19:55] <Walzmyn> KjetilK: yours does that too?
[19:55] <kiraitachi> let me see
[19:56] <BlouBlou> it's necesary for winff
[19:56] <kiraitachi> might not...let me check
[19:56] <BlouBlou> if you haven't got it installed, install and restart winff
[19:57] <kiraitachi> yeah i got it already
[19:58] <kiraitachi> i type that in and says ''ffmpeg is the newst already'' after saying before reading dependencie and tree bla bla
[19:58] <KjetilK> Walzmyn, yeah, I have to make sure nothing has my sudo passwd and take frequent backups :-)
[19:59] <BlouBlou> kiraitachi: well sorry, but I must to go :(
[19:59] <kiraitachi> its ok
[19:59] <kiraitachi> ill google a bit ;)
[19:59] <kiraitachi> thanks either way
[19:59] <BlouBlou> no problem, see you :)
[19:59] <kiraitachi> what about u ubottu?
[20:00] <KjetilK> kiraitachi, ubottu is a bot that people use to answer FAQs :-)
[20:01] <kiraitachi> lol
[20:01] <kiraitachi> XD
[20:01] <kiraitachi> haha
[20:01] <LOGAN> where can I buy 1 kubuntu original CD?
[20:01] <kiraitachi> y buy it if u can get it free?
[20:02] <kiraitachi> want to support them?
[20:02] <maco> kiraitachi: because you can only request so many for free
[20:02] <maco> and LOGAN has asked for many
[20:02] <LOGAN> ni i reached my limit at shipit
[20:03] <kiraitachi> a ok
[20:03] <kiraitachi> XD
[20:03] <kiraitachi> didnt knoiw
[20:03] <LOGAN> i have requested 2 from previous versions for a while now, one for me one as present
[20:03] <LOGAN> i also didnt know else I didnt ordered the second one to give as present :)
[20:04] <LOGAN> Id given him a cheapass copy instead if I had known lol
[20:04] <Tm_T> ubuntu shop? shop.ubuntu.com
[20:04] <LOGAN> nah they only sell for 5 minimum limit
[20:04] <Tm_T> LOGAN: oh, right
[20:06] <LOGAN> would need to pay for five AND pay for shipping on top of that
[20:07] <LOGAN> and other sources only sell copies
[20:07] <Tm_T> though there's no much difference in it, except the looks of wrapping
[20:07] <LOGAN> indeed
[20:08] <LOGAN> I also have my games on original and no steam downloads because I want to display them
[20:09] <LOGAN> and I also wanted to order a CD of Ubuntu... means I end up with to many :)
[20:10] <Tm_T> LOGAN: you can always spread/sell your leftovers
[20:10] <maco> no such thing as too many! ....until theyre end of life (hrm i stil have a bunch of Gutsy server around here somewhere...)
[20:10] <LOGAN> yeh probably. im looking on ebay now
[20:11] <maco> i have 5...no wait 4, i gave one away....Ubuntu 9.10 and 3 Kubuntu 9.10 CDs sitting here to give away to people
[20:11] <maco> LOGAN: why not get 'em all then carry around spares with you and when youre telling people about this super cool OS youre using...you have a copy to hand them?
[20:12] <Tm_T> maco: I have some of first Ubuntu ones still here...
[20:12] <maco> Tm_T: i may have thrown out the gutsy server discs. i definitely have a bunch of Hardy discs though
[20:14] <LOGAN> not many people I know are interested. All only using windows, regardless of how cool they think the buntu's look sadly enough
[20:16] <NSsmiles> trying to install a driver for  my printer...not sure  what ap  to open it with
[20:17] <LOGAN> ebay only seems to sell copies
[20:17] <maco> doesnt have to be people you already know
[20:17] <maco> i dont know 1/20 of the people ive given cds to
[20:18] <maco> (which is somewhere on the order of 300)
[20:18] <NSsmiles> can someone help with this
[20:18] <LOGAN> well other fans usually already have it installed
[20:19] <LOGAN> I thought about having a stack of them at local library or something lol
[20:20] <hagabaka> NSsmiles: what type of file is the driver?
[20:20] <maco> other fans? no no, other people whom you do not know and who have not heard of ubuntu
[20:20] <maco> THAT is who you give pretty CDs too
[20:20] <maco> because THEY are the ones that need to see something that looks professional
[20:20] <NSsmiles> Driver packages: x86 32 bit: 1.0.2a (RPM for LSB 3.1), 1.0.2a (DEB for LSB 3.1), 1.0.2a (RPM for LSB 3.2), 1.0.2a (DEB for LSB 3.2), x86 64 bit: 1.0.2a (RPM for LSB 3.1), 1.0.2a (DEB for LSB 3.1), 1.0.2a (RPM for LSB 3.2), 1.0.2a (DEB for LSB 3.2) (How to install)
[20:21] <maco> you want one of the debs
[20:21] <NSsmiles> 1.0.2a (DEB for LSB 3.1
[20:21] <gtozzi> !splashscreen
[20:22] <maco> NSsmiles: ae you running 32 or 64bit?
[20:22] <NSsmiles> 32
[20:22] <maco> ok then either the 2nd or 4th file
[20:23] <NSsmiles> i used the 2nd
[20:23] <NSsmiles> but not sure how to open it
[20:23] <maco> its the instlaler
[20:23] <xenome> just installed kubuntu and ark seems to crash every time I click on a .bzip file
[20:23] <maco> *installer
[20:23] <maco> if it ends in .deb
[20:23] <maco> should be able to "sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb" (replacing blahblah.deb with the right filename)
[20:25] <NSsmiles> after i loaded it ...i have a window asking what ap i want to open it with?
[20:25] <NSsmiles> launch aplication
[20:27] <NSsmiles> can you tell me what to open it with?
[20:28] <miklos> hi
[20:29] <gtozzi> I'm migrating my root partition, what's the right way to copy /dev /proc and /sys directories?
[20:30] <miklos> yee
[20:31] <miklos> acer emachines dualcore
[20:32] <miklos> open mc press F6
[20:32] <miklos> F5
[20:33] <Tm_T> gtozzi: hmm, I don't believe you copy those really
[20:33] <gtozzi> Tm_T: it's completely dynamic?
[20:34] <Tm_T> gtozzi: should be
[20:34] <gtozzi> Tm_T: ok, I'll try to just mkdir them, ty
[20:35] <maco> NSsmiles: gdebi
[20:35] <maco> gtozzi: do not copy those
[20:35] <NSsmiles> ok thanks
[20:35] <gtozzi> maco: ty
[20:35] <miklos> tried to put windows xp and 7 on my new laptop----no way----ubuntu-----first time
[20:37] <Drunkpunk> hey all new here and looking for help and general kubuntu chat
[20:37] <gtozzi> !hi | Drunkpunk
[20:37] <Tm_T> Drunkpunk: this is the channel for help, for chat, welcome to #kubuntu-offtopic (:
[20:38] <K350> How to end all running sudo sessions?
[20:38] <Drunkpunk> hey, the problem is with screen resolution and (i think) nvidia
[20:38] <NSsmiles> i  dont   see gdebi
[20:38] <gtozzi> Drunkpunk: go on
[20:39] <Drunkpunk> all was working fine yesterday and now cant get above 800x600
[20:39] <maco> NSsmiles: just go in the command line and do the dpkg -i line i gave you before
[20:39] <Drunkpunk> tried clean install and everything
[20:39] <dj_TAZ_DEVIL_69> hey
[20:39] <dj_TAZ_DEVIL_69> i have a ?
[20:39] <gtozzi> Drunkpunk: have you recently upgraded the nvidia drivers?
[20:39] <Guest32963> hi guys
[20:39] <maco> !ask | dj_TAZ_DEVIL_69
[20:39] <Guest32963> i have a
[20:39] <Guest32963>  problem
[20:39] <Guest32963> my taskbar
[20:39] <dj_TAZ_DEVIL_69> has anyone used ubuntu notebook remix
[20:39] <Guest32963> i cant
[20:39] <FloodBotK3> Guest32963: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <Guest32963> unhide
[20:39] <maco> !enter | Guest32963
[20:39] <Drunkpunk> used the package that d/l'd automatically when i used the restricted driver
[20:40] <gtozzi> Drunkpunk: I had issues too with lastest nvidia drivers, I solved installing back the old ones
[20:40] <Drunkpunk> swapped between kubuntu and ubuntu as well!
[20:40] <Drunkpunk> how do i find the previous package?
[20:40] <gtozzi> Drunkpunk: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[20:41] <dj_TAZ_DEVIL_69> is the notebook remix really as kool as they clame
[20:41] <Guest32963> i removed my taskbar in kubuntu now i dont know how unhide the taskbar...???
[20:41] <NSsmiles> i'm new to linux so i dont know what the blah blah was suppose to be
[20:41] <Drunkpunk> you, gtozzi are a true PRINCE!
[20:41] <Drunkpunk> i'll see if it works
[20:41] <maco> NSsmiles: the name of the deb file you want to install
[20:41] <gtozzi> Drunkpunk: lol
[20:41] <NSsmiles> yes
[20:42] <Hetman> hello i`ve just install Kubuntu 9.10 64bit. And i have a problem with sound in wine - i cannot rune it .. on Alsa, Pulse audio itp. Is it know bug ? Can i fix that ?
[20:42] <Laeborg> What is "permanent KVM"? Im in the ordering process of a server
[20:43] <dj_TAZ_DEVIL_69> also does anyone know of a program to where i can stream music see i am a online dj too and i want to use linux cuz it is more stable than freaking windows and now i need to find a program that i can use to dj with
[20:44] <Drunkpunk> well, I'm off to explore IRC and check out the off topic room
[20:44] <Drunkpunk> thanks for your help
[20:45] <darrenm_> Hello everyone. I've got a problem installing Kubuntu 9.10 x64 on dmraid. Can anyone help me?
[20:46] <gtozzi> dj_TAZ_DEVIL_69: yep, there is a streaming daemon but I can't figure out it's name by now
[20:47] <NSsmiles> 1.0.2a (DEB for LSB 3.1..that is the file...now what do i put in the command line
[20:49] <hagabaka> the reboot and shutdown options in kde menu and krunner are not working, anyone know a fix?
[20:52] <noren> !shutdown
[20:53] <darrenm_> grub-install seems to fail on installing Kubuntu 9.10 using the alternate CD installing to dmraid.
[20:54] <darrenm_> Doesn't say it's failed but drops me to the install tasks menu where the only thing that works is aborting the install without GRUB being installed.
[20:54] <gtozzi> darrenm_: it just failed for me too, I solved installing LILO then manually installing grub later
[20:55] <darrenm_> Bah. I'll restart the install then thanks.
[21:03] <K350> How do one edit the time for how long a sudo session can keep going. And/or where do one do that?
[21:08] <Hetman> can somebody tell me why i don`t have sound on wine and flash ? is it any way to run it on kubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[21:10] <Hetman> thank`s for answer ... this really pro official support
[21:11] <loadus> Hetman, I was typing a solution, but because of your 2min patience it seems that it might be the wrong one :P
[21:11] <Hetman> loadus: i ask the same question 20 min ago
[21:11] <loadus> Hetman, the problem is pulseaudio, WINE won't work with it and some cards don't like it at all
[21:12] <maco> s/some cards dont like it at all/some sound drivers are horrendously broken/
[21:12] <maco> Hetman: this isnt professional support
[21:12] <maco> this is random people who are helping out a bit in their spare time
[21:13] <maco> Hetman: if you want professional support, support contracts are available through shop.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <amichair> Hetman: this is community support
[21:14] <Hetman> so now the question is , is it any way to fix that ?
[21:15] <gtozzi> Hetman: rtfm
[21:15] <Hetman> gtozzi: readed manual, looking on google .
[21:15] <loadus> I solved it on my rig by uninstalling pulseaudio, but I won't recommend it, since it might produce some odd behaviour
[21:16] <amichair> Hetman: I have pulseadio as lowest priority in system settings > multemedia, and no problems
[21:16] <maco> !rtfm | gtozzi
[21:17] <maco> pulseaudio is not included in kubuntu
[21:17] <maco> removing it should not break things in kubuntu
[21:17] <maco> breaking things in ubuntu by removing pulseaudio is, however, perfectly reasonable since upstream gnome loves pulseaudio
[21:27] <WaY> hello
[21:28] <loadus> lo
[21:28] <amichair> hi WaY
[21:28] <WaY> anybody knows a good wifi network manager appart from wicd and network-manager?
[21:30] <midwey> sera a tutti
[21:38] <ubuntu>  Hi all,   In dolphin how do you dolphin to display files sizes, it deispays number of items, which doesn not help me much.
[21:39] <ubuntu> Learning to to type of spell could help me :-/
[21:42] <gtozzi> ubuntu: where are you from?
[21:42] <ubuntu> Maine.
[21:43] <gtozzi> ubuntu: use "detail" list mode
[21:44] <ubuntu> This is my first use of Quassel, I thought I'd set my nick to other than ubuntu :-/
[21:45] <gtozzi> ubuntu: should be a good idea :P
[21:46] <ubuntu>  "/nick dosent seen to have any effect?
[21:47] <gtozzi> ubuntu: it works
[21:48] <drew3-live> Ahh yes it does, auto complete if 'ni' didn't work
[21:48] <drew3-live>  ty
[21:52] <drew3-live> I an seeing Number of 'items' and not Size as in 'mb-kb' in the , Number of items is not something I can use
[21:53] <amichair> drew3-live: try right-clicking on the column headers and checking 'size'
[21:59] <drew3-live> Noope, no luck.  Konqueror has Number of items also,  I was trying to avoid needing to click on Properties for each and every flolder.
[22:00] <amichair> drew3-live: oh, you're talking about folders, not files...
[22:00] <drew3-live> yep.
[22:01] <amichair> drew3-live: yes, I miss that too sometimes. but since it needs to calculate the folder size recursively, which can be heavy on the disk, they don't do it unless u ask for it (properties)
[22:02] <rodolfo> hello people
[22:02] <drew3-live> I suffer from a bad habbit of using the name file, and not folder, sorry.  (ordirectory)
[22:03] <amichair> drew3-live: they are different things so it's important :-)
[22:03] <rodolfo> there are some girl here?
[22:03] <maco> yes
[22:03] <maco> why do you ask?
[22:03]  * maco wonders why there *wouldn't* be girls or women here
[22:04] <rodolfo> give us msn id to talk
[22:04] <amichair> hehe... msn...
[22:04] <gtozzi> rotfl
[22:04] <rodolfo> hehehe
[22:06] <amichair> I just noticed the 'expandable folders' option in dolphin - how convenient!
[22:11] <drew3-live> In the few weeks I have been using Dolphin, I like it, except for the Size=Items and not Size=MB-KB.
[22:12] <drew3-live> I'm guessing that is a Distro choice of K-X-or U-buntu
[22:13] <gtozzi> drew3-live: I guess you can configure it to tell size in kb/mb, but i don't know how
[22:13] <drew3-live> I wish I did, it would make my current task simplier.
[22:14] <drew3-live> Certainly ther is a text page someplace to configure it.    O well, thanks for looking,
[22:14] <amichair> I feel dolphin is not entirely mature. there's always little things that are missing or get in the way, though I can't always put my finger on it.
[22:14] <maco> fix it?
[22:15] <drew3-live> I think I found one.
[22:15] <maco> i know youve been having fun patching things lately
[22:15] <amichair> well yeah :-)
[22:15] <amichair> is it kde?
[22:15] <maco> yes
[22:16] <amichair> although, they are more design choices than actual bugs, and as such much harder, if at all possible, to change
[22:17] <amichair> maco: so how come isn't it dolKin? quite an exception for such a prominent app
[22:18] <maco> kde has moved away from the K thing with KDE4
[22:18] <dtchen> maKo
[22:18] <maco> im not benjamin!
[22:18] <dtchen> unfortunately that's too much like the other MaCO
[22:20] <amichair> well when I finish up with kubuntu bugs, maybe I'll get back to them. had an unpleasant experience there, and didn't go back
[22:21] <amichair> they're not as welcoming as you guys :-)
[22:22] <maco> ah yeah....
[22:22] <maco> one of the women in kubuntu flamed one of the guys in kde when he gave a useless reject message to one of my patches
[22:22] <maco> something like "rejected. go figure out why"
[22:22] <amichair> yeah, something similar
[22:24] <amichair> I did a couple days work fixing things, and uploaded patches, no one as much as looked at it for 3 months, and then it was just closed and ignored because one of their devs fixed (after I did) a couple of the bunch of bugs, and they just ignored the rest. duplicate work in general, and waste of time for me. didn't patch anything since.
[22:26] <amichair> their loss :-)
[22:30] <ner0x> Any good vector programs for icons/layouts etc, other than inkscape.
[22:44] <K350> Applications such as synaptic and others that use to prompt for the password don't do that here anymore. What can I do about that. Anyone?
[22:46] <bodom> finally my desktop is up and running with raid
[22:47]  * gtozzi gtozzi is now known as bodom
[22:48] <sharpen047> would anyone help me setup an ad-hoc network please?
[22:50] <Guest3994> Who's the ubuntu channel in spanish please?
[22:53] <AssociateXxx> how do I get grip installed?
[22:55] <Guest29714> good night, i want to know wich is the ubuntu's channel in spanish
[22:55] <AssociateX> hello
[22:55] <AssociateX> how do I get grip installed?
[22:57] <AssociateX> anyone?
[22:59] <bodom> all my fonts are too small, anyone have any idea of where could be the problem?
[23:00] <adaptr> bomber: buy a bigger monitor!
[23:00] <adaptr> bah
[23:01] <hullo> hello, i've got a little problem  I updated ubuntu, installed vmware and i think one of those patched my kernel then a couple weeks later i restarted my machine and since then grub no longer finds my hard drive when booting
[23:02] <faderhval> Goodevening people, I just succesfully installed Kubuntu 9.10 and it looks good but i how ever am getting a buzzing sounds constantly from my speakers.. i've tried googling for a bit but no one seem to have a concrete answer anyone in here might know what to do?
[23:07] <Nevalune> hello
[23:22] <harolddong> have you tried removing pulseaudio?
[23:29] <AssociateX> how do I get grip installed?
[23:30] <dam> hello
[23:30] <dam> have any of you ever installed TVU on Linux before ?
[23:32] <kcj1993> how do i get rid of "kick-off"
[23:33] <dam> have any of you ever installed TVU on Linux before ?
[23:33] <kcj1993> me?
[23:36] <faderhval> Goodevening once again :)
[23:38] <faderhval> Could someone tell me how do i remove PulseAudio?
[23:38] <seige36> kpackage manager
[23:40] <faderhval> yeah when i try that i get an error saying it can't be removed because of kde run time or something like that.. sorry for bain vage but im very new to this
[23:41] <kcj1993> how do i move things around on the panel
[23:41] <kcj1993> *facepalm*
[23:42] <kcj1993> I am beginning to hate kde
[23:44] <kcj1993> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:44] <kcj1993> anyone????????????
[23:44] <Izinucs> kcj1993: repeat.. I just logged in...
[23:45] <kcj1993> ok
[23:46] <kcj1993> I need to know how to move things around on the panel
[23:46] <kcj1993> in kde
[23:46] <Izinucs> you mean the different boxes?
[23:47] <Izinucs> on the bottom panel or the "screen"/ Desktop itself?
[23:47] <kcj1993> on
[23:47] <kcj1993> no
[23:48] <kcj1993> the "widgets" on the bottom panel itself
[23:48] <kcj1993> i don't know how to move them
[23:48] <kcj1993> it making me very angry
[23:50] <kcj1993> angry enough to log back into gnome and uninstall kde
[23:51] <Izinucs> looks like if you point at the panel and right mouse click .. choose Panel Options then choose panel settings.. once the settings bar is displayed point at one of the icons you want to move and you'll see what might look like a blue compas pointer cross thingy.. that's the indication you can move the icon or group of icons
[23:51] <Izinucs> Once done don't forget to lock the panel to prevent additional/accidental movement.
[23:52] <kcj1993> Wow, KDE epic fail, all that just to move something.
[23:52] <Izinucs> I'd like to know how to add programs to my "Favorits" section of the kmenu
[23:52] <kcj1993> ah
[23:52] <kcj1993> all better
[23:53] <kcj1993> how do i get rid of kick-off?
[23:53] <Izinucs> kcj1993: can you help with my frustration?
[23:53] <Izinucs> kcj1993: what's kick off?
[23:53] <kcj1993> the main menu
[23:53] <kcj1993> whats your issue?
[23:54] <Izinucs> the k menu icon on the bottom left? the one that show's the menu? .. my issue .. look up a few lines.
[23:55] <kcj1993> yes thats what i mean the thing that shows up when you click the "k"
[23:55] <kcj1993> it's called kick-off
[23:55] <Consul_Falx> how can I detect which ports are open?
[23:55] <kcj1993> but i want the old menu that kde 3 has
[23:56] <Izinucs> do the same thing you did to move stuff except when pointing at the "K" right mouse click and choose Remove from panel
[23:58] <Izinucs> kcj1993: you can right mouse click the panel "in edit mode" and add a widgit.. in the list there is what appears to be an option for the classic menu
[23:58] <kcj1993> Izinucs, thanks i found the old menu, what was your problem, i only logged in a few mins ago.
[23:59] <Izinucs> I'd like to know how to add program launchers to my "Favorite" menu.. the primary menu shown when you click the 'K'
[23:59] <kcj1993> sorry i dont know how to do that