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| wgrant | dmb: Multiarch was not implemented for 9.10. | 00:49 |
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| wgrant | dmb: That release note is just what would have been used if it had been. | 00:49 |
| dmb | wgrant, so when it does get implemented, it will be possible to install any package as a 32bit or 64bit binary? | 02:08 |
| dmb | because that would help the transition :) | 02:08 |
| dmb | probably is rpath | 02:08 |
| dmb | and that it looks for a lot of things in /usr/lib | 02:08 |
| wgrant | dmb: That's the point. | 02:10 |
| Ryan52 | which package does the "the program 'foo' is currently not installed. you can install it by typing:" come from? | 02:22 |
| Ryan52 | does anybody happen to know? | 02:23 |
| wgrant | Ryan52: command-not-found | 02:23 |
| Ryan52 | ah, thanks! | 02:23 |
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| m4t | anyone here familiar with how liblockfile/bsd-mailx and g+s /var/mail setgid(mail)/lockfile() work together? | 06:08 |
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| smwn | hi | 08:26 |
| smwn | there is a bug in 9.10 | 08:26 |
| smwn | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1300590 | 08:26 |
| Tm_T | !bugs | 08:28 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | smwn: ^ | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | smwn: not exactly what I wanted to say, so I'll elaborate: bugs should be filed in launchpad so developers can follow the issue and answer to it | 08:30 |
| smwn | ok | 08:38 |
| smwn | its already reported | 08:38 |
| smwn | thanks | 08:38 |
| smwn | just alotta people out there going out to buy new harddrives when they don't need to lol | 08:38 |
| ebroder | So tell them to keep the old drive - then they'll have backup for when the drive inevitably actually fails :-P | 08:41 |
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| fale_ | fedora is using an open version of the bcm-fwcutter... ubuntu is planning to use it? | 13:39 |
| trudell | hi all | 14:20 |
| trudell | driver nvidia for kubuntu on karmic distro have being a lot of problems | 14:21 |
| trudell | someone developer have any solution | 14:21 |
| trudell | and a lot of programs need libgtk-1.2, can developers left this libraries as legacy in repositories? | 14:22 |
| dtchen | trudell: problems should be reported using bugs.launchpad.net and will be investigated in due time. gtk+1.2 is no longer maintained in Debian; in fact, it was removed in April 2009. | 14:32 |
| trudell | why not left as legacy? | 14:34 |
| trudell | to other porograms that needs it | 14:34 |
| dtchen | it has been "left as legacy" since 8.04 | 14:35 |
| dtchen | anyhow, the normal process is that if it's removed from Debian proper, there needs to be a really compelling reason to leave it in Ubuntu | 14:36 |
| trudell | well,,,but in karmic isnt present as legacy | 14:37 |
| ion | Programs depending on ancient versions of libraries should be fixed. If nobody is interested of fixing such a program, the program itself shouldn’t be left “as legacy” in the archive forever. :-P | 14:37 |
| trudell | sure, but libgtk-1.2 is requered by a lot of progrmans yet | 14:38 |
| trudell | epsxe for example | 14:38 |
| dtchen | well, none in Debian testing or Ubuntu 9.10+, at least | 14:38 |
| dtchen | but as ion said, it is unmaintained, and carrying it in Ubuntu presents a maintenance nightmare. | 14:39 |
| dtchen | actually that's what I said, but his point that fixing a program is quite apropos | 14:39 |
| trudell | i disagree this opinion | 14:40 |
| dtchen | You're welcome to work with various developers to help maintain it | 14:40 |
| trudell | i think that solution to space problem is dont build bad distribution like intrepid for example | 14:44 |
| trudell | intrepid is a bad distribution only with problems and bugs | 14:45 |
| trudell | intrepid had been a inutil distro | 14:45 |
| trudell | since your launch | 14:45 |
| ion | Ah, a troll. Let’s not feed it anymore. :-) | 14:46 |
| trudell | my machine was only problems with intrepid | 14:47 |
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| trudell | Microsoft bribes Ubuntu development team to make bullshit kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux. | 16:53 |
| trudell | Microsoft bribes Ubuntu development team to make bullshit kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux. | 16:54 |
| beuno | !ops | 16:56 |
| ubottu | Help! bhale, infinity, Hobbsee, jdub, thom, fooishbar, fabbione, mdz, lamont, or Keybuk | 16:56 |
| trudell | Microsoft bribes Ubuntu development team to make bullshit kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux. | 16:57 |
| beuno | thanks Pici | 17:04 |
| Pici | np | 17:05 |
| slangasek | should the !ops token be updated to include more people who are actually current and active ops? | 17:05 |
| slangasek | (and drop thom, fooishbar, jdub, perhaps) | 17:06 |
| Tm_T | slangasek: well, I think we need more ops here anyway | 17:16 |
| siretart | slangasek: if libbar links against libfoo, and libfoo's soname is bumped, does libbar's soname need to be bumped as well? in any case or might there be some special cases? | 17:18 |
| ebroder | siretart: Shouldn't the soname number only need to be bumped if the API that library is exporting changes? | 17:29 |
| nhandler | slangasek: You might want to bring that up at either an IRC Team meeting or in #ubuntu-ops | 17:30 |
| Tm_T | preferaply in meeting and in ML before the meeting perhaps | 17:31 |
| EzraR | anyautomake gurus in here? | 17:59 |
| olmari | hello.. I'd have instant problem with Karmic mini-installation | 18:01 |
| olmari | Warning: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/db/libdb4.7_4.7.25-7ubuntu2_amd64.deb was corrupt | 18:01 |
| olmari | at middle of downloading | 18:02 |
| olmari | same with using, say, finnish mirror | 18:02 |
| dtchen | that points to a proxy error, really | 18:02 |
| olmari | no proxy here | 18:02 |
| dtchen | you don't need to be running one; your ISP could be | 18:03 |
| olmari | well I know they aren't, they offer proxy but I don't use | 18:03 |
| olmari | there is no forced proxy | 18:03 |
| Tm_T | hmm, I'm not aware of any finnish ISP which would force proxy | 18:03 |
| dtchen | 1928ab137f45edfe8e8fb690e56af26aeb44266219e9a8e35d2ccfb1eba12696 /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/uburep/pool/main/d/db/libdb4.7_4.7.25-7ubuntu2_amd64.deb | 18:04 |
| * Tm_T is assuming olmari is using finnish ISP anyway | 18:04 | |
| dtchen | (SHA256SUM) | 18:04 |
| olmari | Tm_T: I am | 18:04 |
| dtchen | what happens if you curl/wget it directly (even from another mirror)? | 18:04 |
| olmari | dtchen: well I can try with this computer, but what to do with that computer in middle of installation? | 18:05 |
| dtchen | have you ruled out medium error? | 18:06 |
| olmari | dtchen: hmm.. well not actually now you ask... yet it's same file each time even when done HD formatting etc... Sorry to ask stupid Q, but how can I check the HD for defects? I do have livecd at my disposal too | 18:08 |
| dtchen | olmari: I was referring to network medium -- cables, etc. Sorry for not being precise. | 18:09 |
| olmari | dtchen: mm.. well.. cable should work... haven't got a spare unfortunately ATM | 18:10 |
| EzraR | anyone in here familiar with the problem with automake and python.m4 setting wrong dirs? | 18:13 |
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| ebroder | If I'm requesting a backport to, say, Hardy, is it better to ask that the version in Intrepid be backported, or the version in Karmic be backported to Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty? | 22:06 |
| micahg | ebroder: no difference, it's all a matter of dependencies and time | 22:11 |
| maxb | I need some advice: I want to request sponsorship for a merge of subversion from Debian, but I can see that the Debian armel build of the package failed. Should I still request sponsorship? If not, what can I do without an armel box of my own? | 23:08 |
| ebroder | maxb: Generally Ubuntu doesn't care too much about architectures other than amd64, i386, and lpia | 23:08 |
| ebroder | (And lpia is kind of tenuous at best) | 23:08 |
| ebroder | You can use PPAs to test those three architectures | 23:08 |
| maxb | Indeed. But this is an armel-specific failure, it seems | 23:09 |
| ebroder | maxb: Then I wouldn't worry about it | 23:10 |
| ebroder | The architectures other than the 3 I listed are absolutely 2nd class citizens in the Ubuntu ecosystem | 23:10 |
| maxb | ok, I guess I'll just subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors, point out the issue, and hope for the best | 23:10 |
| stgraber | ebroder: armel is far from second class citizen | 23:11 |
| stgraber | ebroder: it's the main architecture for the ubuntu mobile team | 23:11 |
| stgraber | ebroder: and part of the main supported architecture just next to amd64 and i386 | 23:12 |
| ebroder | stgraber: Oh really? Last time one of my uploads FTBFS'd on a port architecture, I was told not to worry about it | 23:12 |
| ebroder | Granted, I suppose, it was hppa, not armel | 23:12 |
| lifeless | james_w: any chance you can look at why glib2.0 failed to import ? | 23:45 |
| james_w | lifeless: it was blocked while codehosting was low on space | 23:47 |
| james_w | I need to confirm that I can restart | 23:47 |
| lifeless | james_w: codehosting has 2TB free now | 23:53 |
| lifeless | the upgrade was completed | 23:53 |
| james_w | yes, but I want to confirm | 23:55 |
| james_w | and return to work so that I can restart the imports | 23:55 |
| lifeless | well, I can get the confirmation for you; I realise its your weekend. | 23:56 |
| james_w | and I am on vacation next week | 23:56 |
| lifeless | can losas control the system? | 23:56 |
| spm | james_w: you can restart when ready; space is available. | 23:57 |
| james_w | spm: thanks | 23:59 |
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